001to order. It is May 12th at 5:00 pm. We're located in the Her administration building in the boardroom. This meeting was posted according to law. Um do we have any audience or patrons this evening? All right, moving on. We're going to canvas votes for the school board trustee election held on May 3rd. Trustee BSD trustee place one. Trent Tenon had 656 total votes and had 100%. Uh trustee two place two for basic I see trustee James Bartine had 611 votes at 100%. trustee um in place three which was three people Felix Kenneth and Sarah Dwight Craft Kenneth Eden had 321 for 3854% Felix had 195 for 23.41% and Sarah Dwight Craft had 317 for 38.06%. Is there a motion to be made to canvas the votes? Okay, there's a motion on the table to canvas
002the votes. Is there a second to the motion? All right, we have a first and a second. Any questions, comments? All in favor? I opposed. Motion passes four to zero. Um, all right. We are going to move on to the next item of business. The resolution of recognition and congratulations to Bay City ISD um school board school district board of trustees honoring Pastor Jerry Manning. Um Pastor Manny was a member of the board for many years and has now been um chosen for a role to lead a church here in Bay City. So, we wanted to just give him a resolution of recognizing him and thanking him for his work that will be given to him and read um read for him at the at the installation. Is there any questions or comments about that
003item of business? All right. Is there a motion to be made to accept the resolution of recognition? I'll make a motion to approve resolution of recognition and congratulations of a city and event district board of trustee pastor Jerry Manning. All right, there's a motion on the table. Is there a second to the motion? All right, we have a first and a second. All in favor? Opposed? Motion passes four to zero. All right, straight into the budget workshop. Hello, sir. How are you this evening? Good. So, Mr. Gomez has been working hard on things together for you guys for our budget. He spent last Thursday region three. There's quite a few people working on Omar's template uh passing it out trying to get an idea on revenue at this point which of course is not going
004to be 100% accurate at all, but he spent uh what time were you at last night? That night? Yeah, 4:30 in the morning. So, which isn't isn't rare for him, but um just want to say put a lot of effort into it and uh so and remember it's kind of a high level overview and then we'll be able to start narrowing things down a little bit more. the campuses have their allocations um and so once they start finish budgeting those processing meetings with them right now that they'll be equivalent to the the specific budget accounts and then we'll be able to have a breakdown more of the expenditures as opposed to just the function correct yeah like Mr. Johnson said um this is just a high level overview discuss a couple factors influence the budget
005process there were very very extremely helpful um as you guys know legislative session one doing so you'll see the effects here factor state property val cost of you know what we're seeing we're buying such contracted services. This is another you guys tax. So the increase in property val you know the values go up um you know val the way it was explained to me is basically that um you ultimately it depends who's making up the share. If you know property value continue to go up and press that that rain because property value you're going to see the local majority versus state. So just disclosure figures that will be shown are estimates based on the data we've been [Music] exploration of property val compression tax compressive lower state compress rate compress rate current property values of
006course affect tax compression tax rate increase in tax return five so therefore it's you know property drive up you're going to have same complaints more than likely Well, yes, we're compressing the rate, you're going to see that trend continue to drop down, but because you know, we're trying to state values here in the county. You're getting we saw a $700 million jump this year of estimated value. So, using that as almost 36% increase going about 30% um just because Senator from estimate that's not taking accounts over 65 adjusted home exemptions. So those are free tax that you know tax at 65 and then home exemptions are [Music] still you know stuff that's going on there. So lames are being tested state based uh state aid is based on current years state of property values once
007again we haven't property value that's a good thing we're continuing to meet above those so very good job there just taking a look like I said how ADA what we around 3500 um we did lose about 43 kids in snapshot um so right now This 3119 is as of this six weeks. That's our ADA decrease of about 18. Um so we look at the property tax adopted last year's budget based on the uh adopted tax year 2023 rate of 68 6850 after compression that that got compressed down to 6669. Using current wall template we're seeing an additional decrease or compression down to 619. Um that's because like I mentioned property values tax is about 1.8% estimated 2.5 billion. So $700 million jump. Um I think some of that has to do with maybe some tax
008falling off payment one. They couldn't really still have to certify values in July after cification penalty and interest taxes. We had a really good turn on those this year. So about 30,000 interest income is going to be down as fund balance continues to erode. Cash flow is going to be a little bit harder to maintain. On top of that, looking at some of the projects that we're looking to implement. Um and then just depending on what the feds as far as making sure and that's so that's a conservative number there. Um the question is 300,000 we'll be looking for,000. A lot of that was a lot of that has to do with the fact that we were missing out on three million we could have been generating for about two months. So cash flow was
009very very tight as you were aware at that point of the year tax worst time for that to happen. So missed out on a lot of the interest there um miscellaneous local revenue. Um, some of that's been brought down because we're also giving away from EA refunds. Um that's it's a refund but because it's a refund they ask revenue council is being recognized as revenue working with David and a lot of just a good work on his part going into it's so rather than you know paying everything up front and waiting to be reimbured we're basically pay the discounted amounts in some of those those projects. So I think that's going to be a huge benefit for the district especially over financially where rather than paying a bill up front and paying the full% paying
010the discount. Um athletics no change there revenue is decreasing by about three $3 million but as you can see like I said it just shifts where the size of the buckets at. So um two and a half million you know $2.5 million gain on the local revenue tax. So that half million dollar difference is attributed to about a 55 count or student count cost of ance. A lot of that has to do with coming out of the co situation where there's a lot of direct certification. Um making sure that we're getting folks to certify and make sure that's going to be the hard part. So someone's already direct certified through sex or something that there's really certified filling So just but like you know speaking place for that. So we should see that um that
011number decrease or that you know shortfall decrease from about 3 million I imag budgeted 584,000 we program at the end of December or early part of December after Dr. her team did a lot of great work on that screen. you got two guys that presented us in October basically showing where it was no longer benefiting you know quite a bit but because of reduced uh ratios and reduce ways that we were able to reduce it I was able to clean um in terms of charge program you know as far as medic cost the return on investment just really wasn't there anymore so back October was but um after review the decision was to um tax program 13 revenue. Uh we have let's see OQ and the key sorry out of those three statements and 40%
012of whatever cost savings that they have. So that's based off property values. That's an estimate most recent estimate as of last Thursday 650,000. So $49,000 increase there and TRS on behalf overall you're seeing a $1.3 million decrease in revenue. A lot of that has to do with mention we're going to lose 200,000 uh due to interest income. We lost about close to 600,000. So that's only there. and then taking more conservative overall projected revenue is about 34.6 6 million proposed budget looking at currently 38 and a half. So we're looking at 3.5 this is using a lotment number increase of 195. So if we if they do what they have on the table right now, we would be looking at a increase of 395 35 which is like 1.2 million if you get all the
013time factors and all that. Okay. Right. Right. So, we would also we're going to need to make sure that we plan ahead and that's one of the things that we need to talk about that if that does um 40% that does go to the teachers paid basis, but we also need to have a clear plan on a compensation plan for that and then also what we do with the rest of that revenue. So, because otherwise we're not going to know until right when it's time to set budget. So if we get that information before it's time to set budget and be able to say okay this is the direction we want to go you know because there will be depends on what kind of race we're looking at um and then how much is left
014out of that that bucket and then what do we do with that piece trying to use that to offset the deficit as much as possible we need to have those discussions ahead right I appreciate that piece He's 100% right. And then on top of that, just looking at, you know, what the impacts are increasing basic go at least that's what happened in 2019. On top of that, you know, we're dealing with, you know, five six years not really fun across the state. So I mean something. So a lot of that's there. There's a lot of different initiative we had was about 26.8 in adopted expenditures. We're looking at about 26.6. So million dollar savings, but I know a lot of that's also um changing daily just because we're you know people resigning and we're also
015working very harding and doing all the things to make sure we're not falling short. Um but just kind of wanted to highlight some of that here. Uh in function 21 you notice like 75,000 76,000 savings. Um some of that like I said a lot to adjust but we did save about 35,000 um this year in function 21 on the grant u same thing in function 40 additional 35,000 the full 70 savings and that was the strategic staff grant um that was you know a lot of hard work by Elizabeth you know Jordan everybody working good on that piece but just kind of bring that up the salary And then if we look at 41 of course we see a full retire. No, I appreciate this overview because I mean it was the previous messaging was
016that we were seven or eight million deficit and so to see that it's 3 point something and there might be some more help on the way is good. Oh, we might as well call it four. Okay. Yeah, a lot of that is because we, you know, we made some difficult decisions here over the last couple weeks. A lot of buying from the principles as well. Um, but when it comes time discretionary budgets, just, you know, speaking with other districts, looking to see how they kind of evaluated districts, typically the discretionary budgets are small. So, you know, down those backross all the way across the board, but we're decreasing their discretionary%. So, what can you just put what is used for that discretionary budget? Like what does that help fund? So, that funds like supplies stuff
017like that. a lot of trying to push the more systemat to make sure that we're spending requirements there. So even though they might, you know, lose some discretionary budget or at least, you know, we're going to cut it here, we're going to give a little bit more there shift. So one of the good things is is that when we could tell me if I'm wrong, but when he's talking about discretionary budget, it's talking about the overallocation that the campus receives, right? And so then they're supposed to go in and sign that to where they need that. It could be supplies, it could be all kinds of things. But the really good thing is that we do receive quite a bit of funding that does support the instructional piece. And so that really is not going
018to be affected um in any capacity because almost everything that we do instructionally flows throughce or title or something of that nature or early childhood these types of a lotments. So I know when you say you know last year we we cut 10% this year it's 20 but it's 10 and 10 it it it is significant but it still it's not going to have an effect on the instructional program. Um, and then the other piece is that once you start offsetting that cost, it'll it'll help a lot in the long run. U versus budgeted still looks like it's coming in under still. Yeah. I remember I was going to say what was do you remember what the the total savings was. So it's really it's not hugely significant when you think about our deficit even
019though we're cutting 20% that's not what there is saving but that's not what's going to save us. um you know we've cut personnel as much as we can uh according staffing ratios everybody's there's not really anywhere else to cut far as you talk about staffing there are needs that have to be met especially education that's thing we've talked about contracting services even though we are paying out a lot and we have to maintain the maintenance of effort if we start being able to shift over and be able to recruit people that are in house then as the years go by that maintenance of effort that starts to drift away. Um, so we're not spending an overall, you know what I mean? So, uh, you know, because some people look at that as, well, you're still
020going to have to make up the difference, so it doesn't matter. Well, yeah, it does because we have in house as you go year to year, the total expenditures start down. I mean, this effort is going to have to be as big. And so, we will start to see a savings, but the key piece to that is staffing internally. And you're going to have to attract people in order to do that. something to consider as we talk about these pay rates for the specific group of special education because they're the one that specific area is the one where the blood is coming out all the time. And unless we fix that, we're not we're not going to be able to get our capacity back um to the tune of what $800,000 is what we're looking
021at each year that we've been spending on that piece. And we don't see that changing in the staff better um unless we're able to recruit and retain some people that make something somewhere else. Sorry. So campus cuts came out to about 240,000 round up last year and still keeping that you know we could just kind of bump it up to where we just average about 6300 savings [Music] cash ratios to I don't just I know we give siphons for coaches and you like that type of stuff but we give siphons to our special is there a siphon for special ed or is that just they are paid it depends on the setting right so like when you have five skill or functional academics or essential academics or things like that. Um, you know, what they're
022doing is more intensive. It requires a higher school level, right? So, they do get a stip that's in place. Um, and I know that I had talked about a a different stipen also for being, but what we did find is that statement already exists for behavior. It was just named something different. Okay. Um, so we'll be able to do that and hopefully attract those those people. And I know I had that on the agenda, but we don't need to discuss that to be found that it already exists. So yes, those items do exist for those signing years, but it's still for some of those like what we're having to contract for. It's still not right. We lost, you know, two future projects. back energy too. So the only [Music] remember that all those 313s that
023we got before actually continue to decrease value and drop off. You know that's not that's not a constant there. So that'll be decreasing revenue as we move forward as well that we'll have to keep in mind. Yeah. And they did we didn't they didn't they weren't pulled I guess from when we did this. We did a special meeting. and they didn't get pulled by the controller, so they lost their 313 ability back in the So he probably Yes, that's what they were looking at, but I haven't budget. We want to continue to take a look at where we're at. So we know what the initial window is that you know when we initially took out all the loans and how they stacked up. did was try to work on where we at. That's on the
024side. So 2009 was loan that was taken out and then refined in 2015. So that was for the district energy management system. Um then we had another one project 2016 acquisition property property related to that previous project 2016 acquisition property is that purchased what does that mean? I was I that's all I was able to purch and then the old state and then there was a state energy conservation se22 for energy efficiency savings. So as of let's see 59 2025 we have about 9.4 left outstanding and then budgeting for 2627 that comes out to terms of budget payments almost. So, we don't see those payments drop off from, you know, a little over $9. They don't drop until under $92. And any of that can any of that be moved over to So, that's something
025we would have to explore for sure. That's something to talk to us about saying we maintain a high rate to build capacity start because I think going over that list of what we spent those months on is very insightful because it wasn't just willy-nilly spend the money. There were actual projects that had to be done and we didn't have capacity at the time. Is that why it do you know uh a little bit picked up here and there is I think we had the most recent one for building a new school. I think I remember the teen wing was a big deal. [Music] We had a difficult conversation of destroying the team room and community spoke very loudly that we needed to save it. to save it. All the spending was critical, right? I think
026even you know it would have been worse. I just want to take credit as opposed to demolish. Correct. Yeah. And I think when I think just the people knowing what that money was spent on is very important to know that to comes key Ingram the stadium that was falling apart. Those types of things I think is important for the community to know for sure. So just a couple of things worth mentioning as we wrap this up. Um you know remember that hopefully the state will you know go through with some of the things we were talking about, you know, the increase in the a lotment by 300 some dollars, increase the midsize aotment, possibly adjustments, um, and then the move for special education funding to intensity based funding, which may wait for more funding for
027some of our R&D students um that we're not getting uh funded for and then um possible for school districts that fail the profit value study, which we are not dealing with right now. But then I heard some of the best But we were talking about the revenue loss with the chars. Did I hear some chatter about potential aid to offset that summer? There was um I think it was too far audit 201 [Music] That's the tough piece there in terms of normally bill for speech therapy in terms of medic billing but unfortunately they made it tougher to where we still have to provide the service but in order to receive you know reimbursement for it that child has to have a prescription from the primary um you know, the incentive probably isn't there for that
028because it's just they're receiving service whether things move forward when we talk about bond or whatever behind this, you know, we also need to keep in mind what does that look like after the legislative session is leaders, you know, the the horizon as a potential you want to go if it is you want to go out for a bond for this and then you know then you're trying to hit somebody up again really would be what would benefit the district most long term um and you know so I think think about that but in the meantime you know suggest maintain tax rate continue to build capacity there I think that's should consider to really make that commitment to that piece And so yeah, one of the Did we already go over partnerships? Is there anything
029else you want to talk about? No, that's pretty much it. Any more questions for Mr. Thank you so much for your hard work. We appreciate you. One of the things on the partnerships that was a book is that we did end up from our attorney and you know We talked about expansion outside of our boundaries. There was a third party that was so give us the capacity to do that only have to handle piece right I say only it's still but so we wouldn't have to do the evaluations for specification services all those things. So, um the attorney said, "No, that's not true. You will still be on the hook for that. It doesn't matter. You are responsible. So, if they fall short, whatever the district is going to be liable for it, and you
030you still have to provide those services. Doesn't matter where they're at, they're enrolled with you. It doesn't matter if they live over in that district, they are enrolled with you. So, they're yours. If you're going to get funding for it, then you're going to have to service them." Um and they went also as far to say outside of this letter that um if we were to pursue something like that that they could not represent us because of surmounted malpractice. So unfortunately that potential revenue source is off the table. Now, they suggested that we expand our prek partnerships, you know, like we are and we can do the same model outside, but you're talking about a whole new staff and everything to do all of that. So, it's just really I just want to let you
031guys know because that was a potential really big revenue source, but it's just it's not going to go. We can't do it. We can't do it. So, um anyway, uh that's that's it for the PK partnerships and the budget. I think the next thing that we talk about is the custodial. Yeah. Okay. Um and so Miss Cross, one of the things that we had realized is that uh you know if you if you talk about approved time and so one of the potential costs of the district would be um do we pay out approved time for for those staff members, right? Um, and so if you look at policy, which is in there, we just crossed off. I'll talk to you about it. Um, normally as it is now, if I were to, you know,
032let's say I would leave the district and I have 10 years with the district, then I could submit to have my personal or local leave paid out by the district up to 20 days. Um, and so, uh, one of the things that we wanted to put for you so that as you're considering the RFP is that this potential cost and you know, would you would the would the would the board want to pay that for every employee or would you want to stick to policy where it's you've been with us for 10 years, we pay out up to the up to the 20 and M. Crossoff has given you a cost analysis on what that look like. Yes. So, include that in your workbook. I didn't know if you have any questions. I can go
033through it if you want me to go through it. I did have to come up here because I know he also included a very important piece. I thought that was um when he shared with us the other day, you're an executive. I thought it was very positive. So, I don't know if you want to talk a little bit about that. We can do the cost analysis because I think we both go hand in hand together because we're talking about one talking about paying off our employees with the remaining less. The first analysis that I provided was if we were to pay all employees their remaining up to 10 days. A lot of our custodians they use their time which that's the purpose of that time. So when I provided the cost analysis the first page
034was based off of the current data. The cost that it would be towards the district is 15,540.39 for our all custodian staff. Now if we just went by policy which is our de CEC local that is up to 20 20 days and you have to be with the districts for 10 plus years. We also use the daily rate of the the past five years. We're not going to do that with these custodians. We would use whatever their daily rate is today. That's what they would get paid out for. So if we were when I did cost analysis for the custodian staff of 10 or more years of service, we only had about 13 custodial employees. And that would be right at 6,000 my 9585. So not a huge difference between the 15,000. I felt that
035with our current staff members and where we're at, it could be a positive for our staff. I know that that was a huge question. I know President West was at that temple that we had. But I did want to go ahead and share the piece in regards to the extra week vacation that the service did provide. We did get confirmation from AI that they accepted the contract that we provided from the RFP packet. Then I asked them about, you know, potentially adding some vacation to that because that was a big point during that meeting was, well, you're telling me I have to wait a whole year to get a week of vacation compared to what we did here at the district. It was kind of a setback. So reached out to him, asked him that.
036He said yes. After a 90-day probation period, they would have their three sick days and one week of vacation. And then after a full year of employment, they would gain a second week of vacation. So all in all, it' be about 13 days of paid time off plus six paid holiday. So about 19 days compared to roughly 30 to 40 30 to 35 I think is what our number is here at the district with the 12 paid holidays and then the personal time in the safe home. So we about half of what we get here is what they would get but they would also get that we wouldn't be able to provide this time. Quick question. When we look when we looked at the cost analyst of how much we're paying now budgeted for custodial,
037does that include all those extra days? No. So, you know, when we look, we're paying this much. This is how much the contract is going to cost us and we're pay for the contract and then this is how much we're actually paying the district right now. That was a good Yeah. Well, but that's that so that's a big piece I'm wondering because you know what I mean because you're talking about a good chunk of money that that we pay for that extra time. So how much are we actually spending you know does that make sense? There's a cost time off associated with it. We got 30 paid days as opposed to they would be getting this but how much are we paying for for all of that? It's the total cost that's a lot of
038time, you know, so much of the thing and every time they take off all of it is part of it. And I think that that was important to him when we discussed the 260 because I think it was one day in the cabinet, it kind of dumped on everybody when was being told and I talk all the time. So after a while when we're sitting here saying, "Yeah, they're giving this many days of paid time off versus somebody else." That's a lot of additional fun facts that go towards know somebody that sits under a 260 versus 226 and less. So I think that's a huge perk especially whenever we are looking at the analysis to see how much is the district giving towards there that we could say if we were to go services have
039any questions about No, I guess that will be on the next board agenda for approval. Yeah. We're not voting on it not being in favor of paying all. It's only 15,000. Something to everybody. I I agree. It's something and it will be positive to share with them. I know we have had some custodians inquire like do I need to go ahead and start using my vacation? I have shared with my team to please tell them hold off you know if they need to use it. Do they have emergency ticket? Absolutely. But um they were just curious, should I go that time now so I don't lose it? So I did what off to May 20th that we were going to be putting their decision from. Any other questions just in general about RFP that anyone
040has before put it up? I mean, obviously, we'll have discussion of May 20th, but now would be a great time to ask any questions that kind of sit so we can get answers between now and next Tuesday. Yes ma'am. I've been in constant communication with them. I think honestly the whole team from all different departments have done a phenomenal job to be honest. I know it's a tough time right now kind of the unknown but I know they've reached out to my team quite a bit and I've shared with them you know just be respectful. They have a lot of questions and they always are. But Brit's team and I know my team and the payroll team have done a phenomenal job of just kind of answering as many questions as we can. If it's
041a question that they can't ask, they do always direct them to us so that we can ask it. And more importantly, Mr. Frank and that's why we've done the cost analysis on the on the week payout because that's that's been one of the main topics from the town hall meeting and then followup meetings that I've had with them is what what about our time? you know what about this? So that's kind of where a lot of this is stemming from is is getting those conversations and feedback themselves. Yeah, just going back to my notes from the town hall, a lot of the questions revolved around holidays and even the trying to figure out the bad weather days when the district shut down, did they not get paid because they're not working? That type of stuff.
042So, have those conversations been happening? And I know it's all in negotiations, but Yes, ma'am. Is that something that will be shared in the contract when we see it next week? Yes, sir. So, that isn't in writing right now. Okay. That can be talked about talked about followed. Okay. And that's having the bad weather days in there. just about I know the question was asked in regards to the time off when the district closes because of whether they still get paid a we can have conversation about so just ensure that those answers and then anything overtime related I know that was also a big deal a lot of these custodians do work a lot of overtime at events and stuff like that so how will that shape out will they still it'll still kind work
043how it's here now. Obviously, we still have they'll provide services for extra careers and things like the football games as we're currently, you know, providing services for. So, the the opportunity will still be there for a while. Okay. They may have a little bit of a different process. That was something that when we first really started sitting down and analyzing the contract, we made sure to really make sure that that was documented on the contract to specify if a BCI or I'm sorry, if a contracted employee or AHI employee they custodian wanted to participate in a BC function, please allow them to that. We are all for it because we know we need the support for it, right? So we wanted to make sure that that was identified. Any other questions about the RP mentioned
044it will be on the agenda for for discussion and approval next. So if you have questions between now and then please reach out to Mr. Townson so we can get those answered. Um, I also was given the the email. So, you're welcome to reach out to me and I can just take a picture of the card, pass it on to if you'd like to talk to the representatives from Asia. All right. Thank you all so much. I appreciate it. All right. Last thing on our workshop is facilities. So, I just wanted to guys a heads up meeting to really try to bring to you guys Um, you know, we had an RFP for old hours. Um, and that of course has expired. Um, and so we've got a lot of downtime right now. There's nothing
045available for people to continue to look at that and and possibly, you know, make some type of try to meet those criteria. And I know there's been a lot of questions in the community about, you know, I want to do this and that kind of thing. One of the good things about the RFP is it makes sure that everybody has an equal opportunity and that we're not playing favorites for anybody, but it also establishes a common set of criteria that minimum that really somebody's going to need to have in order to move forward with anything with that building. So, uh, Mr. Gomez and his team has been working with Blake over long on three just scenarios for an RFP. And so, we just want to bring those scenarios to you, you know, whether it's by
046or or sell or donate uh you know that kind of thing so that you guys can talk about that. It wouldn't be a necessarily a decision to start it over the weekend if we knew what kind of direction you guys want to donate. I think last time we did the donate throughout because we had so many people um the historical mark was a real big um barrier for somebody to buy it. Um, and so the donate piece, we had somebody get ridicularly close. Um, and so it was the insurance that that was an issue for. So we just wanted to uh try to get that going again. So we want to bring that to you so you can have discussions around it on the 20th. The other piece that I want to talk to you
047guys about is my understanding is that Pierce the clause was lifted off. Mr. Reynolds did a lot of elect. So, uh, it is ready, uh, to be able to be sold if you guys wanted to entertain that. What I would like to do is to have Mr. Gomez work with our attorneys to have an RFQ, which is what you would need uh to uh to get a realtor to begin to like list that and start working that piece for some type of proposal for the board. Our FQ is request for qualifications, I believe. Um and so we would like to bring that to you and uh if you agree to get that started um so that we can put that out there and then maybe we can have a realtor to get that may be
048a really some type of relief for us um with with the sale of that property possibly. Um, so I just wanted to give you guys a heads up that I will bring that to you guys and then hopefully for an action item on the RFQ piece, Lady Roberts know just so you guys can get some guidance on action. So we have for the RFP we have to choose one of those three scenarios to put it out. Correct. Okay. Yeah. Can't put all three out there at the same time. You can check though. Absolutely. Yes. Are we saying that we wanted to sell or do you want to have option of donate if they meet the criteria or is there a lease option? So, we want to look at all three of those consider what would
049be the best route first to go on RFP to relaunch. But the RFP require it has specific things that the organization the company whatever route that we go has to come to the district with correct just like the other ones that exactly like that. Okay. Just we need we need to relaunch but I want to make sure that we relaunch. Okay. Correct. Yeah. We've already tried to sell the property like Mr. said we also the donation process for everyone just make sure appropriately the other option to for whatever it was leasing would probably have to get like a certificate of occupancy or something to make sure that so we could just lease the newer portions and not the older portions if if that were the It seems I know the old millions of dollars that
050need to be done but the newer ones seem to be in better shape [Music] if we were to say let's move forward who would carry the insurance based on my understanding but our lease fee could cover the cost of the insurance so that we're net neutral potentially it's almost like this will be discussion later that in order to really be successful with this we're going to have to have partnerships together in order to afford you know almost like talk about corporation other [Music] in order to afford to do it. It's almost like we got to come together to be able to afford to move forward and I don't know that as my mind think on that same note but still the historical marker that's making everything so difficult work had been done to downgrade that
051so to leave it as a historical mark but not at the highest level right and they refused to do it and then they said, "Well, just go ahead and tear it down and see what happens." Maybe. Yeah. So, they the state came back and denied the request to lower because the historical markers at the highest. It's a land and the building. Yeah. So, therefore, the building anything you do to the exterior has to be exactly the same. So they we went to the state and said, "Can you please remove it and we'll reapply for a land only to open up the availability for people to do something with the building that's not going to cost so much money." And they denied that request. But then they came back and said, "But you can tear it
052down and then we can change it." But what about the fact that the board [Music] never say you know what's going to take a process And it's best to have just many organizations. I don't think one organization can handle the insurance but we selling or leing as is and we already know that the main building is full and uh I would not want my child. So we take on the insurance knowing that it's it's a limit and we are taking on the insurance but what about I mean that to me is more than anything and I really don't We have to explain to you why to tear down the landmark. Why can't it just remain where it is? So he talking about Yeah. So in order to do anything to the building to fix the
053exterior, you cannot change the exterior of the building whatsoever. So if you were to So you could tear apart every wall into inside but the exterior has to remain the same. So if somebody wanted to come in and say, "Oh, I want the building, but I only want to use the gym in the back wing and tear down the front." They can't. It has to stay and it has to be restored or continue in its state and they just use those back. But nothing can be done to that front or the back buildings that is different than what it is currently because of the level. They call it level of marker on the building. Instead of it just being the land, it's the land and the building. So therefore, everything has to remain looking exactly
054the same if anyone was to come in and change it. So if somebody, let's just say somebody's going to come in and put in a community center or come in and put in the YMCA and put in a weight room and put in all the pool, all the things, everything would have to look on the outside exactly the same as it does right now. Does that make sense? It's It's just a very high level marker that really ties anyone's hands when trying to do it because it makes it that much more expensive to find to source the material to find the things because it's all older than what we currently have. So, you're having to special order a lot of stuff and make it to that building because you can't change window sizes. You can't.
055Okay. I know we had this discussion and I thought you saying [Music] right why do you do the we didn't do that but Dr. Scott signed it on his way when he left our district when he moved on to the next job. He signed it without board approval. So that's what we were trying to go to the state and say is this isn't even valid because there's no board approval on it. And Dr. Dr. Marshall Scott cannot act as a lone person. He has to act in what the board says and it was never brought before the board but it has his signature on it form. Yes. So that's the problem. if he would if it would have come to the board, I don't know what the board would have done, but it was never
056to the board. So, in effect, it would just be like passing anything that's on our voting for it and moving forward with it. Nothing, it doesn't mean anything if the board didn't put their stamp on it. Does that make sense? And I think you need to be put out there and cover up the fight because right now we are the bad one to come to us because of the way that the community is talking about. So when you talk about it, it providing whatever can that be like your email that you send out to the community. This is what we need in order, you know, they just need to know the process, right? And so I think that Mr. Gomez, maybe you worked with them, you know, to get a good answer from from Blake
057on on, you know, how, you know, can we can we increase our advertising of the RFP to what extent or whatever? I haven't asked that, but I think that'd be good for us to because then I think probably a lot of people know, right? And even even if it's just a district letter, a letter on district letterhead that says these are the steps, these are the qualifications, here's the link or I don't know what how you get to I just made that up, but whatever it is, go visit Mr. Gomez in the office. I don't know to pick up whatever that looks like. And that was visit Mr. Whatever the process is, sorry, please do not because there's no packing. There's nothing at this point, but whatever the process is, the requirements in that RFP
058just to get it out there. I don't know. So, could you talk to them and find out to what links can we go to get that information to the public in what format so that when we get those three scenarios, we have a clear picture of how much communication and what we can communicate through that RF process. I [Music] think% over it is here. We have to think about a church over there. So, let's get some information. Um, okay. Thank you. Please don't visit Mr. Gomez in his office. He only works from 2:30 to 4:30. Sorry. [Laughter] Okay, we are going to um move right along. Are there any other questions about the budget portion of the workshop in that manner? Oh, I was like, okay, um all right, we're going to move into close
059session. So, we're going to convene into close session for three different items. A, personal matters if necessary may be taken into close session pursuant to Texas government code 551.074. Deliberate delivery of the appointment, employment, evaluation, resignation, duties, discipline, reassignment or dismissal of the public officer employee, including contract recommendations for campus and district level administrators and teachers. B, presentation of a level three employee grievance hearing and deliberation regarding same pursuit of Texas government code 551.074 074 and 551.082 and C consultation with legal counsel regarding level three employee agreements as hearing and related matters and any other subject matters as permitted by law pursuant of Texas government code 551.071. We will move into close session at 6 p.m. We're going to take personnel. We're going to take personnel first and then we'll come to reevaluate Mr. Brook's
060professional experience and have a conversation with the board on compensation as well as evaluate policy regarding reposting positions where jobs are reclassified or salaries are significantly increased. All right, there's a motion on the table. Is there a second to the motion? I'll second. All right, we have a first and a second. Any further conversation, questions? Hearing none. All in favor? I opposed. Motion passes 5 to um Okay, we are going to go back into close session under personnel matters if necessary may be taken into close session pursuant Texas government code 551.074 074 to deliberate the appointment employment evaluation reassignment duties discipline resignation or dismissal of public officer employee including contract contract recommendations for campus and district level administration and teachers. We will reconvene into close session at 7:43. Oh yeah. Question 8006 discuss and consider
061approval of hiring contractual personnel. Is there a motion to be made? No. No, we did not. Approve. [Music] Perfect. Is there a second to the motion? No. No. Of the personnel that was presented earlier from earlier. We just remember we went in and came out and went back. So, no, you're fine. So, there is a motion on the table. Is there a second to the motion? All right. Is there any discussion? All in favor? I opposed. Motion passes 5 to zero. All right. Last item of business is adjournment. Is there a motion to give? Make a motion to adjurnn. Yes. All right. Is there a second to the motion? All right. Real quick before we adjourn, I would like to thank Trusty Munas for his time. I know this is his last meeting is next
062meeting. But thank you for what you've done for our school district. You have been an integral part of this board and truly truly appreciate you and your service. You know, you got plenty to argue. Are there any other comments or questions? In response, I appreciate all your support helping me through this. Yeah, I enjoyed it. We appreciate you. Thank you for all that you did. All right. Um any other further comments is the uh all in favor? I opposed. Motion passes a five to zero. We will adjourn this meeting at 8. Thank you. Yes, I do.