001All right, it is 7:00 p.m. We will call this meeting to order. And we do have a quorum present. If you would uh bow with me as we begin our our meeting. Holy Father God, we thank you for today and we thank you for all that you've richly and and sufficiently blessed us with. Dear God, we thank you for the opportunity to serve on this board and to look after the affairs of the school and what's best for our kiddos. And dear God, we ask that you help us to not forget that that's what our purpose is. Dear God, we thank you for Jesus and we thank you for the sacrifices that he's made for us. Dear God, we pray that you forgive us because we fall short of your glory with our sin. And
002dear God, we pray that you uh help us to to uh do the things that we know are right. Dear God, again, we ask that you watch over us and keep us safe. And we pray these things through the sweet and precious name of Jesus. Amen. >> All right. Mr. LB, do we have anyone signed up for public forum? No, sir. >> Okay. Uh, Cardinal Spotlight. >> Uh, we got Miss Kerian this month to recognize our top elementary readers and then Miss Kianne skips out. I don't know where she is. She probably started cooking. Um, we'll get Mr. Mr. Marman to hand these certificates out and we'll snap a picture of you. Uh, first is Kanan Anderson. Okay. What's your favorite book to read? >> Put him on the spot. >> There's a bunch of
003them. >> We'll come back to you. We'll come back. Come here. Come here. Stand up. We got to get a picture. You're okay. Did you fall down on the way here? Dax is over there. My favorite. There she is. >> What's your favorite book? >> You be thinking cheese. >> Gotcha. >> Adrian Garcia. >> What's your favorite book? actual books. >> We're going to post you. >> Gotcha. >> Jack's red one. >> He's prepared. >> What's the worst book you've ever read? >> What's the best book? What's the best book? >> American. >> The worst book you ever read was a student code of conduct. It was written by >> What's your favorite? [Music] You think you going to bring him back? >> Come here. >> What's your favorite book? You don't want to >>
004Thank y'all for being great readers and being nominated by Miss Kiana. So, we appreciate you. >> Proud of you. >> Keep it on. Congratulations. You don't have to stick around. >> More than welcome. >> No, no one called your name. >> All right. Superintendence report. >> All right. Enrollment and attendance. See there we just compared to last year. We're 14 students and you know a little over half a percentage. So >> this is one of the ways we can lessen our recapture you know by having having kids having seats in seats and having a good attendance rate. We're pretty happy 95% is our goal and staying above that is just going to just going to help us out. Um, so we're we're we're sitting good with attendance and attend enrollment and attendance rate. >> Um,
005not a not a budget update yet. We haven't we started spending money like last week. >> Yeah. >> So, it's it hasn't been hasn't been updated. Um October meeting date October 20th is the third Monday that work for everybody >> and I shared with you our um our survey results Um >> oh we have any board training that you >> Oh yeah I'll um board training there's a legislative update it's required every year we get a video from um the service center and the board watches it. So uh before the board meeting probably 6 we'll need to have a board training uh on the 20th if everybody can make that. So 6 p.m. board training, 700 p.m. board meeting [Applause] uh survey results, uh 41 responses, most of them represent multiple multiple children. So um
006you know I' I'd say you know pretty pretty good turnout. um [Applause] not not disappointed in the results. Uh haven't shared it publicly yet. We'll share it with staff and uh community tomorrow. Um some of the feedback's good. Uh we'll we'll work on we'll work on things that we've gotten gotten feedback on. Um some of some of the nos reported were from like new students that didn't like for instance um the question are you satisfied with your child's education program progress. Well half those that reported no were coming from somewhere else and it didn't relate to their education here. It was from where they were coming from. Um, so that that that's where those came from. Um, there were some recommendations and suggestions. Um, smaller class sizes, which we're working on, elementary program, concerts, plays,
007talent shows, reading program for high school students, more for cheerleaders, a nurse, a music program, band, and soccer. Um, we can't add soccer because, you know, if they don't have it below, is it 4A, 3A, we do get a soccer comment every single year. Just just can't add soccer. The positive appraises, pretty pretty excited about it. Just copied those word for word and you know, a lot more positives. that we're we're happy with. If you have any questions on that, I'll share it tomorrow. That's all I have. Okay. Any questions, Mr. Elby regarding the superintendent report? Move along to the principal's report. So, we have just finished up our MAPS testing. So, that's our beginning of the year test that we do. We'll do the beginning of the year before Christmas and the end of
008the year. We'll use that for our data. Um, we've been doing that since we've been here and it kind of reflects to what our star test will be. Um, so this Friday, I'm going to meet with each core teacher and we'll they'll have a data sheet that they filled out with unit one test and anything else that we might need. um we'll sit and we'll talk about kids, we'll talk about data, what we've done right, what we've done wrong, and what we need to kind of do or change as we move forward. Um right now we have region 14 coming out. They've already been out once. Uh we did walkthroughs I guess last Tuesday. um me and I guess there's three from the service center and then Tori Aar our special special ed director went
009through classrooms talked about good things bad things and kind of gave us an idea of what we can kind of focus in to do better in the classroom. So we'll meet with teachers on Friday talk about that give them kind of a guide of what we need to we need that to look like and be able to move forward. So it's it's a good start. teachers are grabbing on to it and I think it's going to be a good change. It's going to be a good transition. Um, we're going to start evaluations next week. Um, teachers always love hearing that email when that comes out. Um, and then I'm attending so teacher incentive aotments have been a big deal the last few years getting more money for teachers, but it's a lot of hoops we
010got to jump through. Um, I'm going Thursday to the region center to kind of begin that process. So, just as we go, we're going to try to make it as transparent as possible where our teachers know what what it's going to take. So, maybe we can get them some more money. But, good thing is I've been to Snider and I've seen what they've done and done wrong. So, maybe they've worked out all the kinks in the teacher incentive a lotment that we can use their plan moving forward. So, um that's all I have for the principal report. I know I think Kevin you had mentioned that teacher incentiv just just about it a little bit more you know student progress and there's four levels um like if 50% of your students make growth then you're
011eligible for $8,000 and it goes up to like is it 80%. >> If if 80% makes grow makes growth you get like $32,000. So that's that's once you qualify that's for five years. So well this year is our plan year, next year is our data collection year and the following year is their implementation where they can qualify for that. So if if a teacher qualifies with the highest level, they would make $32,000 a year extra for five years and that we we get a check from the state and that passes through to the teacher. But lots of but lots of paperwork accompanies it. >> And coach winners likes money. I think he he he was excited about the program. >> Lots of new change with it. >> Hey, it went up 30%. >> Thompson will
012be >> the history department will have to split there. We did have region 14 come out and present during inservice and ask questions and teachers were they were said if it's if we're already doing it let's get the money. So that was kind of our go-to for it. It'll be a lot more work on me but we'll figure it out. >> Make the big bucks. Anything else? >> Nope. That's it. I'll shut up. Counselor's report. Uh we so WTC dual credit started. We currently have 34 students enrolled in dual credit. Um and then we have a couple of juniors next semester that are interested. They've started a new um CTE dual credit level one certification in uh truck driving in logistics. So we have a couple of juniors that are going to that are right
013now planning on starting that next semester. And so they'll have that level one certification done before they graduate. When by the time they graduate, seniors have created their FASA accounts. We'll have family fast night on October 21st. I mailed letters to parents explaining to them how to create their account and get all the get everything set up. Um UIL, we are starting elementary and junior high UIL signups and creating those teams. Last year, um, our elementary and junior high both placed fourth. Um, we're hoping to up that. We had, um, 41 student elementary students participate last year, 37 junior high students participate last year. I met with Air Force recruiter on the 10th of this month and she's going to get with me to schedule a cafeteria time to come out and visit with kids
014that are interested um during their lunchtime. And then coming up, the WTC College Fair is this Thursday. All juniors and seniors will go to that. The Chad Cargle uh ACT workshop in Anen is on October 2nd. We have 14 juniors signed up to attend that. The PSAT will be given to 10th grade and to 11th grade in October. Lincoln Tech um is going to come out on October 9th and give a presentation to juniors and seniors. That's an automotive and skilled trades program. Uh he came out last year and talked to the kids and he's going to come back this year. I have um our 11th graders are signed up to go tour uh TSTC and Abene on October 21st. Then they will the juniors will take the ASVAB test on the 22nd and then
015our ninth graders will go toward tech on October 29th. >> It back up to UIL again. >> Yes. >> You said we were fourth place for elementary and junior high last year. >> Correct. >> Was that all of them all together? So we were fourth >> fourth. Elementary was fourth, junior high was fourth and then Hermaly was fourth >> in the district. >> Yes. Okay, >> that was a lot to put down. >> A report. >> Miss House here. I don't know why, but I'll check back. >> I think she's ab >> fair >> something. I thought it was over. >> Well, according to >> I'll check on >> according to the financials, we had there were entries entry fees that were >> so that was last weekend. Okay. >> Um >> Ryder Henderson did
016have to reserve B rock which is pretty good. Um Northcut showed steers. They had I believe 23 and a fourth. Um believe Dicky had a third or a fourth. So good >> at the fair. If you're third, fourth out of seven to nine, you're kind of in the running. So, >> but it was good. It's a good day. >> State Fair is coming up pretty soon, too. >> State Fair is coming up and Sunday. >> It'll still be hot. It'll be the end of September, 1 of October. Hendersons are taking um two direct guilts there. And then the North Cuts have some steers going, too. I >> think she's got some LDE coming up too. That'll be like November. Um, she is working on training Creed speakers. Um, Josie Gibson was working on that today
017every day. >> Oh my gosh, she is. She's recited the Creed a thousand times in my house. >> I swear. >> Worked on some little things today. So, she is fired up for it. >> All right. Athletic report. uh blowing and going I guess week four of the football season 2 and one for varsity, one and one for junior high. Uh JV is currently 0 and3. Um they're getting better. It's a good young group of guys in that group. Uh cross country's got five high school cross country runners and junior high some mornings it's two, some mornings it's five. So, um that I think they've been to one meet each so far. Uh they'll run again on Wednesday in uh Westbrook at the golf course there. I think it's called Centennial now. And uh that'll
018be in the afternoon. Uh cheerleading. They got a million of them. They're doing a fantastic job. It's actually 12, but uh they're doing a fantastic job. Pep rallies are awesome. Uh Mr. Anderson's doing a good job there. Um, I don't know. It's been good. Been a good year so far. Lots of participation. Um, we got kids out the wall that just want to be a part of it. And, uh, of course I have a hard time telling them no, coach, can I be a part of it? I want to play football, but I want to be a part of it. So, we're going to find something for those kids to do. >> Good deal. Operations report. We've been working or actually we got coach Thompson got his studio um completed and um so we're working
019with coach Ramish and Miss How kind of um trying to hit those an hour or two um during the day without losing a ton of production. um met with some contractors over at the new property um getting some numbers together on that um for repair and then just um been working on trying to clean up a little bit around the old school getting some of that under control and just trying to keep some of the work orders down. So just been been staying busy. ACs. >> Oh, we I had um TD Industries come out last week um and we got up on the roof and went through and kind of started getting a rough estimate on as far as what it would cost to replace all the AC units. Obviously, he said he'll have that
020to us by the end of September. But just a ballpark area, he said just looking um be one $1.5.7 million to replace the complete the whole school. So that's it. >> Air condition or turf? >> I forgot the girls basketball. They're playing fall ball in on Monday night. It bounces between Rosco Sweet Water and Snider and Sweet Water. >> We've also ordered some supplies to make the repairs over at the egg barn. It's a got lots of load out and fix the toilets and things like that. >> Hopefully I have all that done by get over there and get plowed. >> Excellent. >> All right. Thank you, Jerry. >> Next item is discuss potential May bond election with David Cultus from Government Capital and Jenna Shadowitz from Performance Services. >> Mr. Eleby, would you lead
021this off? Um, you know, >> Jenna, you want to go first? She came out and did a a kind of a facilities assessment last year and then the board kind of hit the brakes on pursuing um something I know you'll want to talk more about projects and things she's >> So, I came out here I don't even know when time doesn't matter anymore. Uh we did a facility study, looked through all of your buildings, kind of talked to uh some of your people, seeing what you guys needed. We have that turned around. I am going to let David go first since David has all your numbers and a bond really does not make sense unless you guys know the tax dollars. Uh we are here to help support that bond if you guys decide to
022go forward however you decide to do it. And I'll show you what we're what we would do for you guys uh in terms of supporting that bond, getting it approved, and then doing the actual projects. But I'll let you fall asleep to your tax information first. >> It's brutal. >> All right. >> Marcy, I don't know which one HDMI. Can you try one? >> PC. >> How come we never >> It's going to be financial advisor error. It's there. Why we have a whole department? >> I think you fix your uh like display settings. It's connected to you now. But it's there you go. I'm just going to run through some stuff real quick cuz part of what I'm going to have to ask you for some thoughts and decisions on your part. uh some
023of it I can give you a pretty good idea of what's going on with your CAD and particularly wind uh with oil and gas. I'm going to ask you some questions as well. So, first thing I want to just kind of run through real quickly is you know this history uh I'll try to make this without zooming off the page and I know that can be difficult to see from where you are. >> Is that better? >> Uh the primary thing I want you to look at is this assessed values. So these are your values from 2011 to 2025. And of course your assessed values you divide by 100 multiply by a tax rate and that's how you generate your the money that you can spend on school or if you decide to go out
024for a bond. And so the one thing as a as a superintendent or board member or financial adviser, you look at, you know, that's kind of been doing a little bit of this and we'll talk about where I where I kind of feel like that's going. Uh but but again you'll have some ideas as well. This is just in a a little bit different graphical form and then I'll switch off to something else. You can see kind of our low point here was in 1819. We all know what's going on there. Dipped under 300 million. Then we saw kind of a a spike primarily with oil and gas and power and wind uh updated the heads. And so they went from 13 million to about 75 million to 200 million in 2024. Now you start
025to see a dip. And I'll show you. Let me let me bounce to another place because this is this is where we'll have to have you give me some of your thoughts, if you will. Uh, and I'm just going to kind of run through this real quickly. This is from 2023. What I've tried to box are F2 and G1. F2 are is your your wind turbines, your wind farms. All right. G1, oil and gas. That's just the stuff coming out of the ground. That's not equipment. That's not water trucks. That's just oil and gas coming out of the ground. So, I want to show you kind of a three-year trend here. You see the F2, and I'll go back and forth a little bit, is about 105. Oil and gas that year was about 251.
026Now, if you go to 2024, you see oil and gas is still at 238, still within percentage points, but you see that wind jumped to 176. I think that's when Pyrene uh did their updating. Now I can show you another graph or another place where they thought where the CAD thought that was going to be at 209 and it settled in at 176 which makes more sense. I mean 209 is a high number to go from what I say 13 to 55 to 209. That's like they pulled all those things down and restarted. So I think that's reasonable. Now in 2025 this is where we have to start thinking now what do we do? All right if you'll notice F2 then dropped to 126. She had a $50 million drop. Now, we talked, I think
027six or eight months ago or five or six months ago that there was a lawsuit in the valley in Valverie County. Uh it didn't get settled in court. So, there's not a court there's not a judge calling these folks around. Uh they stepped out in the hallway and said, "Hey, here's what we'll do." they decided we can't tax power purchase agreements or tax credits if those are intangible which kind of makes sense but it's it's unfortunate what we're seeing particularly with your county and some of the counties north and east of you guys like Brock Morgan and all those places out there what they're doing right now is they're negotiating rather than every CAD suing every windmill farm or every windmill farmer suing every CAD cuz that cost you money cuz a CAD operates on
028your dime is they say let's just negotiate. So what they're what they're working on now is taking those wind farms without going to court, they're saying we're going to over the next 2 years, we're going to reduce those outside of the depreciation schedule by 40 to 50%. And so what this 126 represents is a 28% reduction from 176. And I'll show you where I've calculated what I think the rest of that's going to come from. Now again with this oil and gas, you see we're at 153 and I know I talked in circles a little bit. We're at 238. All right. So part of my question with you is, you know, I do have a source that works out here that sells chemicals and gas companies that we're waiting to hear back from him. But
029as far as this next year kind of, what are you seeing this year with oil and gas production prices? I mean, are we stable? We dipping? >> It's going down. drilling those will slow down. >> Okay. >> A lot. >> Okay. And so we'll have to make some I'm making some Let me show you. I know I'm flipping around a lot here. I'm trying to It's kind of like drinking from a fire hose. Uh what I'm trying to do here is we are right here in 2025. We show your values being at 558 million and some change according to the CAD. What I've tried to do is pull out that wind value because that's the that's a pretty large chunk that's going to continue to go down. We don't know yet what oil and gas
030that's going to dip 10% 50%. I I I don't know. We'll keep digging in on that. Scurry county be able to give us a little bit of answers, but again, you guys probably have more boots on the ground quite honestly than than your assessor. Uh and so I've reduced that by 28% the first year. That's at 176 to 126. I believe it'll reduce by probably close to 25% this next year. And so what I'm trying to do now is taking everything that's not in 313s and some of that includes oil and gas, but also includes a lot of other stuff and I am increasing that little bit that column if uh if you kind of know how spreadsheets work. If you look up in that formula bar, I'm increasing those by about 2% a year
031for the next 10 years while depreciating this that 313 values. So, I think you're going to end up at about 95 million and then they'll revert back to their old depreciation schedules, if you will, which can be anywhere from 10 to 12%. I plugged in 10% cuz man, I'm hoping after you lose 50% of those values that they'll depreciate a little slower. But so those are some things that when we start looking at how much can we afford for how many pennies that's the kind of stuff that we're going to be I hate to say guessing that's that's the kinds of things we're going to be looking at trying to forecast uh for the life you know if you do a 20-year bond we want to make sure you can you know if you tell
032people it's going to be a dime or 12 cents or 5 cents we're trying we want to be be able to to forecast that. So this isn't what I'm trying to say then is this isn't set in stone. I'm just showing you all the things that we're trying to trying to consider. Does that make sense? Questions, comments. If you need to throw something, I'm pretty good at ducking. [Music] I don't know if you ever I'm sorry. I I get I'm a little add. I don't know if you ever saw that video of George W. Bush and that guy in Pakistan where to do a boot at him and he bad time to be standing behind. >> Yeah. I'll dodge before she will. So, but uh anyway, now one thing we talked about just briefly, and
033I know again you guys know this, uh we talked about how many votes that we'd be looking at, you know, if if we if you said, "Hey, Dave, let's or hey Jenna, let's go out and plan and market for a bond." This was your '09 bond. Uh you had about 210 211 voters then about 170 voted in favor of. Now, that's 80%. That's a You don't We don't see landslides like that anymore. And you probably wouldn't hear either, but at some point we'll we'll start wrapping our heads around, okay, what does a May election look like? How many people show up? How was a November? >> Yes. How how what does a November election look like? What does a November 24 election look like versus a November 25 election look like versus a November 26
034with midterms. And so those are the kind of things that Jenna will help us with. And so this is kind of for those of you that are, you know, bored. This was all those numbers that I showed you is kind of what I've tried to plug in with this chart. Now, your INS rate went to zero and your M rate has basically stayed the same. So, and this is a single bond, right? And we can talk about benefit pros, cons, this is a single bond, 20-year term, which is what we've historically done here. We can shorten that to 15 or 12. Just know that means we're paying it off sooner, which means we're going to have to generate more money each year. You could go out to 30 years. I wouldn't recommend that if we're
035looking on the smaller end, if you're on the upper end, or if we all decide, oh gosh, Dave, we need 15 million. And I'm just throwing numbers out. There's no reporters here. >> Yeah, it is. >> But okay, but then you may if if if the tax rate is most important, then we may have to look at a longer term, but that also cost you interest, you know. So, we'll just have those are some some some judgments we'll have to make over the next couple months. But, good news, bad news. Uh, if if you said, "Hey, we just need to do a little, you know, freaking span. We just need 3 to 5 million." Then you're talking about four, you know, 4.3 cents to 7 cents, 7.1 cents on a 20-year term. I'm The other
036thing that we're having to predict is what interest rates are going to be. You know, if we if we do a bond in May, we're not going to sell it. more than like there's a 30-day waiting period where anybody can plan out anything and then we go through a rating process, a sales process. So, it' be August or September of 26 before we'd sell. So, the underwriter I talked to today, plug in 4 and a quarter on a 20-year. Obviously, if you go longer than the rate goes up, you go shorter, the rate goes down. U rates have dipped by about 25 basis points in the last three or four weeks. And I think that's a couple of reasons. I think there's a lot of pressure on the Fed right now. I think they see
037the wave coming. Um I think there was also a big crush of bonds that were sold in July and August and so we're in a little bit of a lull. So the market responds to that. But by and large the numbers that I'm calculating they're all four and a quarter. They can go up, they can go down. Hopefully they'll go way down. Uh someone said the Fed is looking at six rate cuts over the next six or eight meetings. They have three meetings between now and the end of the year. We're expecting about a quarter point this week. I think they meet tomorrow and Wednesday. So, we'll keep our eyes there. But again, that's something that could change. If we said, "Hey, we need 10 million." That's 14.3. Uh, you're at 1268 last year. We
038didn't really get compressed on the M side, but that's that's in the ballpark of where we were. We can structure it. If if you said that we we can only do 1268, we can structure that thing. There's a penny or two here where we can frontload or backload or add a year. Paint Creek, we we've talked about a 20-year, but they were stuck on a tax rate. So, so it is a 21-year bond with still a 10-year call. So, I mean, there's some things you can do there. Uh, if that makes sense. Okay. So, that's kind of what we're looking at there. Uh, you know, there's ways to level that out. Again, if the number was bigger and we could possibly do two sales for maybe we sold 8 million the first year, uh, and
039did if we had to do three or four million the next year. Again, if we're targeting a tax rate, there's ways that we can structure it to get it within kind of some tax parameters. So, those are just some things for you guys to be thinking about. Uh that oil and gas, we're going to have to really dig in and see what we're projecting because, you know, if you did a bond in May, we're not going to make a payment next summer because your tax rates already set for this year. You don't you're not levying an INS rate this year. So, it' be May of 27 before we'd make a payment on it. So, now we're really two valuation years out, right? And so we'll have to, you know, kind of make some some judgments
040about where we think that's going to go. >> There's talk of a solar farm. I think it's 280 megawatt. Am I right there? >> That sounds familiar. >> I haven't seen >> kind of they said they were, you know, they got to get it built by 26 or Trump deals. >> They'll lose their incentives. >> Yes. >> So I mean, what is moneywise? What is that? >> You know, >> every uh I'll kind of back into it. If it's a $100 million solar farm, then every penny that you le levy against that earns you gets you $10,000 towards a payment. So, you know, you start it starts chipping away at your pennies. >> Uh if we're currently sitting at 588 million and we get a $100 million solar farm next year, >> that adds about
04115% to your values. So all those tax rates could drop by 15% or so, you know, or you could do what we did is is go ahead and go to a maximum tax rate, put a little money back in your INS so that we can pay the thing off early, you know, as soon as we can, which saves you hundreds of thousands in interest. So that could be worth 10, 12, 15%. On your tax roles in this case, could offset whatever oil and gas dip we see. uh you know as as we move to more national drilling as opposed to international oil with that that's obviously going to help us all of us particular >> there's something else that's new and I I guess nobody really knows what it is the battery storage they're building
042a big big one out here it's in our district >> on the for a solar farm >> uh yeah there's a big solar farm north >> so I think that's why they're building that battery storage >> have they started construction on it. >> Yeah. But it's been very >> Is that out there by the prison? >> Sound by Carl and Noah Williams. >> Yeah. You know where the community center is? Northeast Community Center. >> Yeah. We can't figure out what it was. >> Yeah, that's right. >> That's a battery storage. >> Okay. >> So, we're working with one in uh uh Matador Mly County and their battery storage facility is going to be upwards of hund00 million of value. >> Now, obviously depends on how big it is and what kind of production. I mean,
043this thing's supposed to be several stories high, but I mean, it's slow. >> So, so we can circle back with our appraiser and see what they've seen or where they're looking at if it's going to hit the tax next year next. But all of that will help this. This is, you know, I think I said to Jenna, this is nearly tragically conservative because I'm reducing your solar pretty hard and fast. Now again, oil could could affect that, but this is relatively conservative. I think even the four and a quarter is conservative. If we see six cuts between now and the time we sell these bonds, I think you'll be well under four. But so I'm hoping this is worst case scenario. The homestead exemption didn't kill you guys too much. I think you lost 6
044or 8 million in values, which again on a $600 million value >> a smidgen. And so I I'd say we were lucky that I mean I shouldn't say lucky we knew where it was going to be but that was a good thing and so we just have to keep our eyes on all those. So everything you've mentioned would be a benefit to that be a plus to that. And if they think they're going to hit tax roles in 26 or 27, if I can get estimates on what they think they are, I we can I tend to plug those in kind of outside the formula so that we, you know, we all know, but we're not we're not going out and promising taxpayers here what's going to happen and for some reason they pull plug
045>> on a facility or project. If they're turning dirt and they're starting to stack racks and that sort of thing, then they're and they're trying to beat an incentive. >> Well, I talked to the guy. He said, "We got we're going to do it, but we got to get it done by 26." >> Yeah. Okay. Good. Good. That's all great information. So, we'll circle back. Okay. Any more for me? >> Any questions for David? >> Okay. So, just like this is a guessing game, the potential bond scope is also a guessing game. Nothing, if you guys are determined to go out for a bond, has to be declared until the middle of February. So, whatever I'm going to show you, uh, it can all change between now and then. It depends on what you guys
046want to do. I'm going to show you a schedule of if you guys were to go out for a bond, what that's going to look like between now and May of things that have to get done, which most of it's going to fall to David and I. So, because you guys haven't done a bond in 16 years, we would >> Yeah. >> We would prefer to start as early as possible. Uh like if you were to go out now, the main thing you'd have to do is to put out an RFQ to to have somebody help you, you would have to start getting the data. Uh the majority of running a bond and getting the right information is pulling the exact data you need. So everything about your voters, everything about your demographics, and then
047creating the ground game and making sure that we know you need about 175 votes, how we're going to get those votes, and really utilize that data to go out and get the messaging. Um, we'll start doing community surveys. Kind of start seeing what your community feels like in terms of tax rates, how we've done this in the past. Uh, would just be generally a survey. Do you want to go for 3, 5, 8, 10? The parameters you guys set. We can also set it as how comfortable are you with the tax increase? What tax increase are you okay with? So, we send out uh a survey that'll kind of get the the gist of how your community feels before we start the community meetings. You'll get the people who want to be involved. will create
048a community action committee. They'll tell us uh it depends on how vocal your Facebook group is and and who wants to be involved. Um we do not have the entire facility assessment and pricing on scope items yet. That kind of got a little bit stopped. Your sports facilities, we didn't have any plans with that. So, if we're going to go forward, we're going to have to get a bunch of engineers out here and survey the entire area. So, other than that, we've got pretty much your whole school. We also have to make sure we know exactly what you guys are looking for. What that means, give me your dream list. I need to know every single item that's important to you. What programs do you want to think about that uh that are going to
049be present in 5, 10, 15 years? So, we need to sit down and get our programmers, your educators, and really understand the growth and what you want this district to look like. If you don't go for another bond for 15 years, this has to be all of it. Or if you do multiple small ones, different story. Then we have to change your marketing. uh strategy and make sure that your citizens know what the plan is because transparency upfront is the number one thing. If you were to do multiple small bonds, your citizens need to know it right away because you will hear, "Okay, sure, we'll we'll approve a 3 million," but a year from now, they all forget. Uh so, that is something that's going to have to be upfront over and over and articulated
050to everybody. We typically do at least three community meetings. It kind of gets us to do like bond 101. We've brought David in. We'll have the financial adviser to make sure that people understand what's going to happen with your taxes. How does this impact you? Uh number two is pretty much presenting the options for projects of what you guys want your community to see. They don't always have to see the big list. They can see what you guys have narrowed it down to. Um we are very heavy in social media. We want your students to do as much as possible. If you guys have students who can do videography, if they can handle social media post, if they're front and center on the uh on the cards that we send out, on the flyers, really,
051the more you guys can make this your own and not our bond or not David's bond, the more it's going to benefit you guys long term. uh November, we will work with you guys to draft the bond proposal with your attorney, the preliminary budget, because once we say a number out like, "Hey, this bathroom's going to cost $150,000." There's no walking that back. Uh that is the one number we make sure that when we're putting out numbers, and we're the opposite of David, he's going conservative, but we go conservatively high. So, we never want to hear somebody be like, "But you said it was going to be 8 million and now you're at 9 million." So, we guarantee those prices. We want to be very careful in the messaging that gets out. It has to
052be accurate and it has to only be said one time. Um the bond theme and community strategy. You guys have done a great job maintaining your school. This is more of an operations and maintenance bond. You're doing a refresh. You're fixing the things that need to be fixed. You're not overhauling and talking about building new everything. If there is something new like a tennis court or a CTE, we we're going to front and center that, get renderings, make that the face of it. But we want to make sure people understand you guys have been great with the the district's money. They need to understand that this is not a flashy bond. It is just to make sure that the students are first and the programs that are here for them are going to keep them
053going. And then again by this time we haven't even called for the bond. So December is a lot of community uh members start going out knocking on doors figuring out who knows who. January we identify and solidify everything. So that is our final time to make any changes. February you call for the bond. That is mostly David with tax information. That is the first thing people care about. Absentee ballots. Do you guys have a lot of them? >> I can pull that data. Don't worry. >> Um and then determine if you guys want to do a pack, a political action committee. Determine if that's the route you guys are going to do. Um and then begin social media post. We pretty much do weekly and daily posts as much as possible. Uh update your websites.
054Go all over that way. And then pending the demographics, we are huge on mailers and making sure because people do like real mail that's not a bill. So if that's the case, we will have to go and create as much as possible. We just did one that had P.O. boxes. I really hope that's not the case here cuz people don't check a PO box. um virtual town halls. If we are doing any town halls, we will we'll record it all. Make sure it goes on Facebook, make sure everyone has access to go back to it. And then May just monitoring, making sure we get people at the polls. Maybe it's creating a committee to always be at the polls for those early ballots, have donuts, breakfast. We do uh pins. So, if you're going to
055the polls, you get a Hermley pin. It could be an H. It could be however you guys want to, but it shows school pride. So we are big on just making sure that everything is customized to you. That is if you guys decide to go forward that is basically a very paired down plan between now and May. Thoughts, questions, concerns? >> I got a question. Just been devil's advocate. Uh we do all this bond fails. How much how much money are we out? >> 0 to PSI. It would be for the cost of whatever you need. you're an attorney uh to make these documents, but I would not be taking anything. So, my entire goal is to uh get you guys to pass a bond because I want to do the work. So, we have
056our engineers, our architects, and our and our project managers. We would be bidding everything out locally. I'm not here to just pass bonds. I'm here to build schools. >> And same thing, financial advisors don't get paid if you don't sell bonds. There's I don't I don't have a fee structure where I can bill you for hotels or mileage or drink lunch. >> You did do that. That was good. Good. >> Yeah, I'll take a lunch. Anybody have any questions for Jenna or or David? And and Jenna mentioned the attorney who we we talked to the attorney a lot. they're going to expend some money to get a a ballot in place and they may bill you back uh expenses if you will. Generally speaking, everything is contingency based. It's contingent on it passing >> and
057part of the strategy. So like I don't know how much to build out projects for. So that's why we want to go with your dream list. If you did go with multiple small build bonds or the big $10 million bond, depending what those projects are, you might not even sell them at once a bond. So it could also be a strategy as maybe we do part now, part later. >> There's a lot to play. So right now we're just kind of in the gray area. >> Air conditioning. >> Oh, and one thing that we do because you mentioned air conditioning. Thank you. Um I search for grants. So SECO, the state has a bunch of grants for different areas, rural development. Um they just had one out for $200,000 for air conditioning replacements and LED
058lighting. I know it's not that much money in the scheme of maybe $10 million, but 200 grand is still better than nothing. >> So, I will hunt for all the money that we can in addition to the bonds to make sure that you guys have everything. >> Questions for Jenna or David? >> I'm good. >> You good? >> I'm good. >> Joe, Joe, Bridget, >> I'm good. >> It's not the fun part yet. and and I'll get a hold of Gary Cad and ask him about the new solar and the battery and see if we can get some numbers on that. >> The solar is negotiated with the county now. >> Are they giving them >> tax abatements? >> Abatements. Okay. Okay. There's no abatements for school county. >> Oh, sure, sure. Okay. Okay. >>
059I know they were working with a hospital district. You get an abatement there. >> Yeah. Yeah. That guy was highly what SN County people working with helping get this thing going. >> Good. And and as bad as the wind thing is, just glad we didn't pass something and promise 10 cents and then we lose 40% wind values. I mean, at least now we know we can plan for it. You know, we've got a hospital district right now is already turning dirt and can't sell the second part of their bond because they're at their cap and they lost 4% of their values, you know, $800 million. >> Will you also find out about the uh battery storage? >> Battery storage. Yes, sir. >> Please. Okay. >> And if it's the same folks that are building the
060one in Matador, Jake, >> it may be. >> I would assume it is. Jake's already got contact information for those folks and they they've been that particular company's been great working with us if it's the same group and I would assume it is >> okay. >> Thank you. >> So next step, Jen, >> get that RFQ out and I'll go do all the work and pass you a bond. >> We have a contract that just rolls forward so you don't have to do anything as far as financial advisor. >> Do we have a contract with Ben with the attorney? >> Leona Leona. >> We just have a the retainer program, I think. >> Yeah. I I would assume he'll he'll and they can do it the night you call a bond. Your attorney will want
061a contingency based contract that basically says if it passes, you know, there's, >> oh, and just a reminder, all of our pricing is transparent. So, you will see everything. We do come in uh we'll show you higher dollar values just because placeholders can't go down after that. So, you'll see everything. Don't get afraid if it's the opposite of how David does it. It's supposed to be higher for a reason. >> Other questions, comments, items of observation, or complaints? >> No one ask for complaints. >> Complaint department's here. >> Dial it in. I'll put you on hold. Mr. Elby, do you have any anything else? Okay. >> Thank you all. >> Thank you all for being here. >> Mhm. Absolutely. All right. Next on our list tonight will be uh considered to have possible action on
062the approval of board minutes. These will be the minutes from the August 11th meeting as well as the August 25 meeting. I'll make a motion approve it. >> I'll second it. >> We have a motion and a second on the floor for the approval of the board minutes as written. Is there any further discussion? All in favor? Next is consider and take possible action on the approval of payment of bills and investment report. motion approved. A second. >> We have a motion and a second to approve the bills paid as listed. Is there any further discussion? All in favor? 70. All right. consider and take possible action to approve the resolution regarding school bus seat belt requirements pursuant to Senate Bill 546. >> Okay. So, we currently have three buses without seat belts. The 2004
063Bluebird and 2000 the 2004 Bluebird is a backup bus. Um, we have a 2011 Bluebird, uh, which is a current route bus to Snider, and a 2014 Thomas bus, which is an activity bus. Um, it's about $500 a seat, a seat belt. So, on a 72 passenger bus, it's going to be 36,000. That's if they don't have to make modifications. Um, so this res, so voting on this resolution is basically to exempt from this law by determining that the budget does not permit such a purchase. Uh, just because if we sold all three buses right now, we probably wouldn't get 36,000. >> So, we'd be putting more into them. But the good thing is any future buses and those that we've bought, they all have seat belts. Um, so everything from here on out is
064going to have them already. So, so voting for this resolution just states that, you know, due to due to finances and and the bus is J's in condition, um, we're not going to install seat belts. >> Only one out of the three gets used every day. >> Yeah. >> Morning and afternoon. >> One out of three. >> Yes, sir. The other two just kind of hang tight. So what happens if we don't put them in there? >> Just the same thing as if you have an accident. Now I mean we don't have anybody on the buses monitoring telling them >> put your seatelt on. I mean you'd have to pay monitor walk up and down the bus telling prek kids to put their seat belts on keep them on. So, >> but would that be
065a loophole for parents to come after us? >> No, because those buses are grandfathered in. Technically, my opinion >> those buses were built prior to this. >> Now, is that a potential? >> Absolutely. I'm sure it's >> somebody's going to >> Okay. >> With all the new buses coming in, >> everything. So we have seven buses >> and four that home. >> Okay. >> So here >> and only one of them's used every day. >> Yeah. It's just back and forth. >> Okay. >> However, buses do qualify under the bond that we could add them in >> as far as a way to purchase buses. >> But also a bus is well the last one that was purchased was right at 80,000 and 40,000 of that is seat belts. >> Yeah. >> I mean, >>
066but not on a new bus. >> Not on a new understand. >> Not on a new bus. But if if we apples people that can drive them, too. >> Yeah. If you was to buy a new bus like the one we just currently leased or that we have currently on lease, >> you can still well maybe not now, but you could before pass the resolution say the the district didn't have the money to put seat belts on the bus and you're only going to save about 17 to $18,000 per bus. So it is obviously a lot more to retrofit seat belts on us than to >> So we would need a motion to enact the resolution. >> Yeah. Just to approve this resolution. >> Motion second. So, we have a motion and a second to
067approve the resolution regarding the school school bus seat belts. Is there any further discussion? All in favor? Any opposed? 7. All right. I consider and take possible action on a resolution approving employee personal services contract pursuant to House Bill 3372. Uh another new law uh basically when a school administrator receives a check from another school district in any capacity now it's got to be board approved. U so this uh resolution is for Mr. Marman because he does do a judging um and he does teach school bus driver training through the service center. So he would potentially get a check from another school district for a judging and for the service center. But now now that's got to be a board approved. So this resolution just lumps those jobs into one so that the board doesn't
068have to come back every other week and approve a Mr. Marman to work in these capacities >> stuff done during like school or >> No, it's all after I'm not all the time. If it is during school time, I take personal day. >> Has it been all stock shows I've done been on Saturdays. >> Have you done any that I mean besides the stock shows? Like have you done any live training like the judging stuff? Like I've judged stock shows as far as like training livestock teams. Yeah. >> But it would be kind of under that if anything like that came up. >> I'll make the motion approve. >> I'll second it. >> We have a motion to approve the resolution approving the employee personal services contract. Is there any further discussion? All in favor?
06970. And the last item that we have next to the last item is to consider and take possible action on a resolution to nominate members to the Scur County Appraisal District Board of Directors. >> Uh there's two vacancies. The three seats have currently all been nominated. Um, I think one we got notified today that Rod Partain, whose seat was vacant, um, confirmed that he's willing to serve another term if nominated. Um, so this board can officially nominate one or two individuals tonight. I think Kevin, you had another. >> Yes, sir. Uh so uh Tyson Price who lives within our district has also indicated that he would be willing to serve on this board. Um so that would be another that we could nominate as well. [Music] >> How many we got? We can nominate one,
070two or none. There are two vacancies and >> my card or my gradient house >> it should have been on >> is it not attached to that >> Shane Smith like we could those have already been nominated by multiple entities. and this board can nominate those as well, but they already have seats. So, the they're really just looking at um new nominees for the two vacancies. [Music] I'll make a motion to both >> to nominate both men. >> Okay. >> Second. >> Who was that again? Can you say those names? >> Rod Portain and Ty Price. So, we have a motion in the second to nominate Rod Partain and Tyson Price to fill the two seats for the Skir County Appraisal District Board of Directors. Is there any further discussion? All in favor? Any opposed?
071Any abstain? Okay. 70 blank. I'll make a motion to adjourn. >> We have a motion second and a second to adjourn the be the meeting. Is there any further discussion? All in favor? 70. Time now is 8:01 p.m.