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Maypearl ISD Special School Board Meeting July 14, 2025

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YouTube / Maypearl ISD_official
Date
2025-07-15
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Ellis County, TX
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12,562 words · about 70 min
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2026-06-09

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001[Music] Are y'all going to the right? >> They will. >> Okay. Thank you. >> It's okay. Thank you. >> Well, he understands that we had a conversation. He said, "If you have to, I'll do whatever you told me I have to do, but I would prefer not to." And we had a conversation about the director of secondary curriculum and professional coach and support and extra money because he'd get extra money because he get mass drop. That's how he's going to get extra money. How do you say? [Music] Hey, >> how are you? >> Good. How are you? [Music] There we go. [Music] >> It seemed like it was all rain. [Music] How'd you like that dunking boot? >> All right. I didn't have nearly as many people want to dunk me as they did. >>

002Mhm. >> There you go. JJ was in the money. >> One person gave one person donated $100 to let their kid be the first one to dunk something. April. All right. So right now church we're on campus. And they serve [Music] outside building. >> No. paper towel [Music] out there supposed to be [Music] where we're [Music] Um, not necessarily. >> I can just unplug the HDMI. >> Oh, wait. No. >> Once they're done, Okay. [Music] >> I didn't want to ruin my reputation. I had to sit on the truck for a minute or two. [Music] whole time. >> You take Steve, too. Take mine, too. It's here for you. stretching it with a little watertight. [Music] This is going to kill this man. >> He's going to bleed out. Do we have something to hammer

003this? >> I have a hammer. >> Dude, this is going to kill this man. >> Is the cameras on? >> Yes. >> I don't know anybody on camera. Hey Chad, I want to sit by you, but you need to sit down there. The nails are nails are kicking today. >> Yeah, Cooper needs to be closer to the middle. >> I'll take care. I had multiple spots. >> I rebelled. I'm not used to normally on carpet. >> There's not a better stuff like this. So easy. 6:30. The core of the board is present. The meeting has been duly called and the notice of the meeting has been posted in accordance with the Texas Open Meetings Act, Texas Government Code 551. Please rise. Jerry, you can lead us in vacation. Let's bow our heads. Heavenly Father, we're

004just uh grateful for this night, Lord, and just humbled too by the fact that we get an opportunity to lead and just uh direct decisions that impact such a great school district. Lord, impact the lives of these children, impact the lives of these educators and everybody involved here. Lord, I pray that us as a as a body here would operate in unity tonight. Lord, that we would uh respect one another, that we would make uh decisions with just a just just a deep uh thought process in that, Lord. and and really um Father be be a sounding board for everybody that we are here to represent. Father guide this process. We love you in Jesus name. Amen. >> Amen. >> To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which

005it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Texas. >> There we go. All right. Where's Where's Cooper when you [Music] >> All right. Public. >> Perfect. Cool. >> All right. >> Now, we have the team of eight training workshop, legislative updates. I think that's still waiting on others to join. She's not. >> All right. So She just text me that she didn't have the right. She thought she did. Hey Andrea, it's Ethan from technology. Now you're fine. Yeah, you should be able to just click on that link and be invite and it should take me to teams and then log in your settings and stuff. >> You have Zoom. Okay, now you're fine. >> So, is that working now for you? >> Okay. There we go. >> There we go.

006[Music] [Applause] >> Can you hear me? Let's see. >> Yeah, >> there we go. All right. Sorry. It's always a process with me, but I do get it eventually. Okay. So, I have a PowerPoint. Do you I sent it to the board before. Do you think that they want it like is there any way to even do excuse me screen share or just have them follow along on their own? You should you should be able to screen share it on your side and then we'll be able to see it. >> We have one. Okay. She's dead. Does that show it? >> Yeah, we got it. >> Sweet. >> Okay. Where are they at? Are they ready to get started or are they still meeting? >> Yeah, they're ready. >> Okay. Are they all Are they

007can hear me? >> Yep. Everybody can hear you. >> Hey everyone. >> Hello. How >> you all doing? >> Good. How are you? >> Um, so we will go ahead and get started. I guess Ethan, they're are they going to be able to talk back to me or I ask me questions or how do you want to handle questions? >> Um, they'll say a question and I'll repeat it. >> Okay, sounds good. All right. Well, welcome everyone. We're just going to go through some of the more major um legislative updates that will impact y'all. And um I have gone through and like outlined them in pretty pretty detailed order. Sorry, just as I start talking, I start talking. So y'all should have like a pretty detailed outline of what these legislative changes are. However, I'm

008going to kind of summarize because I know you don't want to be here all night. So, but you'll have them in in text um that you can refer to. So starting out um House Bill 120 on annual reports. Um and all this says is that each year you must uh approve the annual report and it's the that's that information on high school graduates uh post secondary education completion of degrees and certificates that kind of information. Um and in identifying and including goals in each plan, the board has to use longitudinal student outcomes data posted under that section. Um and your plan has to be on your district website not less than two weeks after approved. So that's House Bill 120 approving your annual annual reports and the requirements there by. So, we all know that

009last legislative session we had a requirement that we have to have um a police officer on every campus. However, a lot of districts got exceptions to that just given the lack of uh officers that are available in certain areas. So, now um if there's good cause um we can we can again request an exception u based on some kind of good cause for why you're not able to fulfill that requirement in every district building. And um so it has to you have to set that forth um to claim an exception. House Bill 210 prohibition on certain activity by vendor. So a vendor that bids on or receives a contract from a school district or an open charter commits an offense if any individual serves on the board of trustees or governing body of the district

010or school or has a substantial interest. So that's not unlike previous conflict of interest requirements. Um this provision has just whittleled it down to be more specific, but pretty much saying that you can't be a vendor um bidding on a project and also have a substantial interest in um both the district and the company bidding. And so it kind of separates out what how that's defined um in that bill. So back to school police departments, your chief of police actually has the ability to appoint appoint reserve police officers. The board is able to limit the number of reserve police that the chief can appoint. But that's under 1458. And remember, anytime we see a may, that's not a requirement. That doesn't necessarily mean that that's what the board has to do, but it gives the

011board that flexibility to uh to to say that they want to implement such a policy. This is going to be a big one with parents, y'all. So, 1481, I'm sure you all have heard about it, the cell phones. Um, we're prohibiting students from using a personal communication device while on school property or during the school during the school day. That's a shall. So, we have to have such a policy. It's using um during school the school day. So, um, it has to establish disciplinary measures to be established for violation and confiscation. We have to have include that into our cell phone policy. And TAS is coming out with, if they haven't already, a plethora of supplements. Mark Tilly has um kind of combed through all of these from TAY and set forth that there's going

012to be major policy updates coming so that those will you know at least fulfill these shells that y'all see in here. So the policy either has to prohibit them from bringing it all together on school property or designate and some kind of method for storage while the student is on school property during the school day. And so you either have to do one or the other completely and or this is how they're going to be stored while on school property. We have to have something in place for how we're going to dispose of them. Um after notifying the parent like with 90 days notice like hey we have a kid's cell phone. Um and how we're going to dispose of them, how we're going to communicate to the parents that that's going to occur. There's

013exceptions if a student needs it for their IEP. So, I work in the special ed world world a lot. I think we can expect to definitely see students coming in with um changes to their IEPs or you know recommendations from physicians. That's that second provision there um that they have to have a cell phone for some disability based or medical based reason. So, we can prepare ourselves for that or necessary to comply with the health health or safety requirement imposed by law. So not a parent saying I believe this is mandatory for my child's health or safety. Something that's mandatory requirement imposed by law or part of our own protocols. So that I think could easily be twisted as well. A parent unilaterally deciding that that's needed for their own child's or their own health

014or safety. So a change to to this is significant y'all. Um, we now have to post our agenda within three business days before a meeting, not the 72 hours anymore. So, you're looking at like districts that take Fridays off. You're looking at having to post Tuesday, right? Wednesday, Thursday, no Friday, Monday's the meeting. So, you're going to have to really have your ducks in a row, include and um you know, take to heart the days off that you have in your schedules because it's three business days now, not the 72 hours. And we think maybe in the next legislative session they'll define what business days are, right? Because there's instructional days, there's district business days. Um like for purposes of grievances, you're like, "Yeah, we were closed that week, so we don't count it." But

015then the uh Texas Public Information Act, the AG says we have to designate business days. So is it based on those designated business days? We don't know. So I would recommend that you take an abundance of caution uh approach when posting your agendas because that's going to require you to really get your ducks in the road, get it posted in a timely fashion, and there can't be any debate say if Friday is a date of closure if you post on a Tuesday. So those are just kind of um things to think of for that. Uh the notice must include just very specifically for certain um budgetary items. So um adopting a budget um has to have these particular things included. So just remember that that has to be add you know that's added in addition

016to these posting requirements for this provision. military kids. This is a may. We may adopt a policy and it's very wordy. I had to read this several times before I knew what it was saying. It essentially says military people can say, "Hey, my kiddo's turning seven um in May of this year, so I want him to be in second grade, whereas usually that child has to be seven as of September the 1st, right, to go into second grade." I think I think that's correct. Um, so because of that, it's a may, you don't have to. Um, but if you do, then a military person could say, you know, this child is turning that age during this school year and should be allowed into that grade. I believe that's because it's hard for military parents to

017have continuity from one state or even one country to the next because some states it's like parents choose when they start, what grade they go in. Some states it's, you know, September 1st. Some states it's August 1st, some states it's end of December. So it would it's hard for them to find continuity perhaps going from one place to the next with what grade their child should be in. So House Bill 3372 conflicts of interest. This is kind of a complicated bill written as you know there again essentially prohibits outside work by administrators for vendors um and prohibits outside work by superintendent and assistant superintendent for curriculum and administrative service providers. So, it's moonlighting, right? Um, but you are allowed non superintendent, assistant, superintendent, uh, non-members of the board. They're limited. They're they're and this is

018more in the scope, I think, of like schools that are managed by, um, members of board of managers. So, they're actual employees, not board of trustees like y'all. But top level administrators are can't receive those financial benefits. Um people who are not top level administrators can receive um outside work based on the contract if they request and receive an exception from the board. So the board has to first consider and determine that the contract won't harm the district, the arrangement doesn't present a conflict of interest, and the service to be performed will be performed entirely on their personal time. and they have to really look at that before deciding at the board whether to grant those exceptions for moonlight mining. So that's an kind of a significant one if you have a lot of employees

019who do outside contract work. So oh yeah we have resolution forms for a lot of these things y'all. So just ask. There's another one that's not specifically mentioned in here but it's the bill requiring us to allow kids who are homeschooled to participate in UIL activities. those I believe go into effect September 1st and if you haven't made the resolution by then you're required to take those kids on your UI tests. So there's a lot of reasons why um we wouldn't want to, you know, we have standardsbased learning where kids have to actually do the whole no house no play um you know that we hold our own students to. Um and so you know the unfairness of having children who are maybe not um held to the same academic standards just coming to for

020purposes of UIL participation. So we also have those compl those form resolutions as well if y'all are interested. um elections. So, this bill, House Bill 3546, permits school districts to change to the November uniform election date and adjust the terms for that. So, um this is kind of an extension. We've extended it to December 30 of 3030. The board of trustees may adopt a resolution changing the length of the term of its trustees until the date of the november election is canvased of a year. And it has to provide for staggered terms of either three or four years and specify the manner in which the transition from the length of the former term and the modified term to the modified term, excuse me, is made. And it has to begin with the first regular election

021for trustees that occur after the board adopts the resolution. and a trustee who serves on the date the resolution is adopted shall serve the remainder of that term. So there you go. Um and so this seems like it was something that was extended from 2023. Um and and that you just have to opt in to to making those modifications. Um and so the governing body, this is the rest of it of an independent school district that holds it general elections for officers on a date other than the November uniform election date. may change the date on which it holds its general election for officers to the November uniform election date. So that's another um modification under 3546. We had in addition to the Texas Open Meetings Act where we discussed cyber security matters. It makes

022sense because we've always been able to go into close to talk about um security measures. So now we've added cyber security matters and that's under House Bill 3112. So, that's an important one to add to your agendas if you know those matters are going to be discussed. House Bill 3629, an application for a place on the ballot as a candidate for trustee, um, must include a statement that the candidate is aware that a person is not eligible to serve as a trustee if the person is required to register as a sex offender. These are things we like to think that um go without saying, but y'all, I can tell you years ago um there was a loophole in the law where we had current felons um who were serving as schoolboard members and other elected

023officials because they just had to have had their disabilities, it's called, restrictions uh removed um through their probation or whatever. And so because of that, they current felons on Newer school boards throughout the state. And so they passed that a few years ago where you couldn't apply if you're a felon. Um, duh. That seems that seems like a no-brainer. So this is just another one. If you're required to register as a sex offender, you can't be a school board member. Early ballots. So this kind of dictates what the format has to be. You know, I don't know that this is all this der that gerine to you. It's more of a secretary of state issue maybe, but um at least 10 10point font printed in black text. Don't you even dare try blue text or

02412 12 point fonts actually at least some ninepoint font. Um it puts restrictions on those early ballots polling places. Um we've said a person cannot use wireless communication and there has to be that that restriction posted outside of the voting but right like right outside of the room where voting is taking place. So a person can't be using their cell phone essentially while they're voting. This is helpful a lot of times. Um, the penal code has been amended under House Bill 5238 to say that a person commits an offense with an intent, and this has always been the case, to prevent or disrupt a lawful meeting, procession, or gathering. And this is the the continuation of that, whether in person or virtually. So, we've had situations um in I'm not aware of a board meeting

025where it occurred, but I know for a fact it occurred in a Texas due process hearing for special ed where there were people who were hacking in and disrupting the the hearing. And so that speaks to this. So, electronic disturbance um we've brought in the definition of disturbing meaning to those electronic disturbances. Personal prayer. So essentially, Senate Bill 11 deals with a lot with prayer. It's never really changed much. We've just said that the board can vote and make a resolution that we're going to have an opportunity set forth in the day where people can pray. And um this is how the resolution language has to specifically read here down at the bottom. And this is a May. You know, we've never been prevented as students or as employees from stopping what we're doing and

026praying during the day. So, I don't know that it's um you know a priority for your district. I guess you'll decide that a policy has to only allow employees and students whose parents or guardians sign a consent form. So, um that includes an acknowledgement that they've made that choice um to participate. They have no objection and they wave all rights under the establishment clause or first amendment blah blah blah US constitution. So essentially like I'm voluntarily voluntarily agreeing to participate in this prayer um session and I hereby wave any right I have to say that this state is trying to establish you know a a particular religion for me. So it has to prohibit prayer or reading of the Bible or other religious t texts over over a over a PA system. So essentially those

027that have not consented to it can be forced to hear it and be subjected to it. So that's um that's part of this too. And if someone revokes their consent like I said or doesn't give their consent they um you know they don't have to be they can't be forced to participate in it. So we have to have provisions um which that's pretty much saying that a prayer is not provided in the physical pro presence of or within the hearing of another manner which would infringe upon their constitutional rights. So it's a pretty complex bill and I'm not sure if it's accomplishing like a a long-term objective that the district has because prayer's always been studentled prayer that's always been the law for as long as I've been around. Um so the policy may require

028the period of prayer and reading of the Bible or religious text be provided before normal school hours. So you can set the parameters um by which you're going to implement the policy, the wins, wearers, house, etc. Um and so the AG is supposed to provide the school board, you know, upon our request the best practices for implementing that if that's your if that's your decision. Um, and again, like there's nothing that prohibits school district employees from, you know, engaging in religious practice during the day. You know, we don't necessarily stop and have a have a period of time where we do that, but, you know, in their own free time during the day, they're allowed to do that. DEI, so diversity, equity, and inclusion. Pretty much we're prohibited from engaging in any type of that

029um including volunteers. So, um, we can't do it. We can't knowingly allow others to do it. We can't adopt policies that allow for diversity, equity, and inclusion, uh, p practices or require, uh, individuals to perform diversity, equity, and inclusion, uh, duties. And this doesn't prohibit us from conducting business with historically underutilized businesses owned by members of a minority group or by women. So, a company that designates themselves, you know, um, you know, a blackowned company or a womanowned company, we can do business with them. It's not like we have to not engage in business with them because they identify that way. Um, we prohibit a district from acknowledging or teaching the significant it sorry, it's not construed to prohibit us from acknowledging or teaching the significance of state and federal holidays or commemorative months. So,

030we can say it's Black History Month. um we can say um you know this is um a a holiday for women's day that's holiday for women this is a a junth and acknowledging the significance of it um we just can't require teaching the practices you know someone to to actually teach the practices or implement policies in furtherance of diversity equity and inclusion um and we have we does nothing's nothing's limiting us from u making sure we follow students first amendment's rights of course we should be doing that anyways and not engaging in unlawful practices um and we can engage like in um assessing and we do this all the time with like star scores we we they'll break them down by race and say you know these are the achievement gaps in certain um classes

031or c you know of students or certain races of students or certain you know based on disability. So, we can do that to identify achievement gaps and try to target those gaps in our um educational instruction and programming. So, there you go. I think you guys get the gist of that. Um so, SB12, y'all, like as we go into this, spoiler alert, there's a lot in SB12. It's a heavy parent rights um bill. It's got a lot in there. So far, to my knowledge, there hasn't been anything saying you can't DOI out of this. And so far, I understand there's probably nothing that you'd really want to DOI out of. Where we want to get there, though, is at the very end. What I'm going to talk about, um, SB12 included a whole overhaul of

032grievance procedures, um, parents rights and grievance procedures, um, you know, expanding the deadlines for people to file. um it's going to impose quite a um a burden on school districts and we know constitutionally there's always a right to grievance stop and listen but there's a lot of things that have been added in that in my estimation can trip a district up if you miss one little step and so SB12 is something food for thought to DOI out of to district of innovation out of if y'all don't know what that is district of innovation just means we have a plan as a district called the district of innovation plan and we can under law um opt out of certain provisions of the Texas Education Code. This isn't something there was quite a few in the legislature

033this year and we're going to talk about some that specifically stated you can't DOI out of this is one where you can so it's just food for thought. My districts are all considering it mainly the part that's policy we'll talk about. One second. >> Yes. >> Uh, one second. We're having some technical difficulties. Okay, go ahead. >> Yeah, go ahead. >> Okay, I'm sorry. I thought I was waiting to see if there was a question. Um, and I can answer those at the end too if y'all need. Um, so anti-transitioning. So, we have to adopt a policy that we can't assist students um with social transitioning. So, not just um gender reassignment, but like um we can't assist the student with social transitioning, meaning last year Mark was Mark and this year Mark wants to

034be married. Um and so that's going to be interesting. We've always as districts kind of had to be a local policy decision or a local practices decision if we're going to informally refer to a student as Mary um and she. So, that's kind of going to be I think up to the district. I think this is a little more specific that we can't assist them um assist being the key word there in their social transition. Um parental rights. So, um a board of trustees can't limit parental rights. I don't know that you'd ever want to do that. Um but you're supposed to in doing that provide for procedures to consider complaints that a parent's rights have been denied. In my opinion, we've already done that with our FNG policies um and other policies like our

035harassment and bullying policies, but I feel like that's covered. We're supposed to develop a plan for parental participation in the district to improve parent and teacher cooperation, including in the areas of homework, attendance, and discipline. And we're supposed to cooperate in the establishment of ongoing operations of at least one parent teacher organization. So, PTA, PTF. So, one and three are pretty well covered. I feel like two is probably covered too like at your campus level at least. But just so you know, that's we're supposed to be developing a plan as a board for that for the legislative session. every legislative session. >> Sorry, one more time. It's >> me. >> Yeah, there you go. >> Okay. Sorry, I don't know if I'm cutting out, but um >> No, it's not. We're supposed to, okay, we're

036supposed to provide to parents, you know, notice of their rights that they have options concerning all of these things. Y'all can read them there at the bottom, but it's essentially all the things we do with students in instruction and the school day, immunizations, um, all of these types of things. So, um, most of us do most of these things in enrollment, um, in my my opinion. Um, but if there's anything in there or, you know, that's the whole thing is it says on their enrollment. So, I don't know that we like talk about GT on their enrollment. Uh, we certainly talk about immunizations. So, you may just go through this list and just consider it for purposes of making sure you complain. If you're not going to opt out of DOI, um, you can opt

037out of certain parts of SB12, too. That's the other thing because you're not to opt out of all of it, like this one. um a parental engagement policy. You have to, you know, provide for an internet portal through which parents enrolled may submit comments to district um administrators, requires the board to prioritize public comments by presenting those comments at the beginnings of each board meeting, and requires board meetings to be held outside of uh typical work hours. That can be problematic. Number three, to say you're going to do that forever and ever till the end of all time. Amen. because you have things come up as you all know all the time where it may be outside of and what is typical work hours for anyone. Um, so you know that is a consideration there.

038Obviously important to incorporate parents in our overall engagement plans and I know we all do that but just just specifically complaint comply with some of these things may be food for thought for how you're going to um modify that with your DOI. >> Can you ask for >> um grievances? This is what I really wanted to >> one second. Okay. >> What was the question? >> The question I've heard the typical work hours has been stated as being kind of like 9 to5 or 8 to three or whatever. And does she have a typical work >> for me? >> Um we were wondering u the typical work hours is a 9 to5 or 8 to 4. Um, do you have a specific uh work hours that you're talking about is what the question was? >>

039Yeah, that's kind of the the way I was thinking too is like what is the typical work hours? We've expanded through the years. We used to, you know, 9 to5 in an hour for lunch. That's a joke for most of us. So, um, you know, it's I would say maybe 8 to 5 to guess, but I don't know that it's um defined. So, that's where it gets kind of hairy because, you know, it's just like I had this happen this year. We had to do a non-renewal of an employee. Well, the only time all the board members could do it, unfortunately, they were going to have to miss work was 9:00 in the morning because these hearings can last 6 hours. And so, we did it. Um, if you had something like this, you know,

040it would restrict that. And so it's just tying your hands of when you can um you know when you can actually hold these meetings. So food for thought grievances y'all. This is where it gets really hairy. And so I don't know that I'm going to go through and enumerate piece by piece all the things that this incorporates. But remember there's nothing in SP12 that says this section 26011. We can't DIY out of it. So I would consider it and just sticking with your FNGF um DGBA policies as written. They certainly afford um you know members of the public, parents, employees the right of remmonstrance which means to be heard to come before your body corporate which is in this case the board of trustees and air your grievances. And so to put all of these

041new requirements on us I think is ownorous. Um with all we have going on already. I don't think it's required from a constitutional standpoint. Um, so that's the thing is I there's nothing in this yet. The commissioner I guess can always the commissioner can't really I don't think say that we can't DOI out of these things. Only the legislature could and I don't think the legislature has. Um they may one day but they I don't think they have based on the writing of this statute. So y'all can read it at your leisure. I'm not going to go over every single thing, but it has heightened rules for the record. Um, you know, for the um who's going to hear these grievances, it pretty much shakes up the entire grievance structure as we know it. Um,

042and so, like I said, our grievance structure as as written already affords a parent, their or whoever a constitutional right to be heard by the board of trustees all the way up to the board of trustees. So that's just food for thought and until we know whether we're going to adopt this or we're going to um DOI out of it, you know, I don't know that it's worthy of spending tons and tons of time and it's it is a long slides. Y'all can review it, but um it it increases the time when someone can bring a complaint. You know, right now most of our policies in May's policy is written, I think it's 15 district business days you have to file agreements. Well, now we've way expanded that with how this is written. Um, and

043so and lots of like 20 days here, 60 days here, 30 days here. So, it's a lot of ways to trip ourselves up by putting a lot of um restrictions on ourselves. Um, so we already have the 10th day where we hold the hearing when it's not before the school school board. Um this kind of expands our timeline um here but it's a different time different timelines than what we have also currently we don't have any um set time where we have to set a hearing before the school board and this sets that timeline. So currently under the the policies that we have there's no timeline. It's just whenever the school board can hear it next. Of course, we want to make a good faith effort to hear it timely um and deal with our

044complaints in a timely, you know, integrityfilled way, but um you know, we've always been able to have some flexibility for how we can set our meetings and this kind of takes that away. So, there you go. You can kind of read through it. a whole lot of it's just completely adding agreements policies, you know, and and more um adding more times that um conferences have to occur. It's a lot, I think, and it could be expensive and and certainly like a a lot of district resources to put it together. Um so that's that. And they're they're uh there again like it may be something to just talk about and see whether it fits your district's needs or whether you want to um include it in your district of innovation plan. So this is the school

045library advisory council and we can there's a may establish a slack as if we don't have enough um committees and such. Um, but it's just pretty much to review and and um and ensure that the library standards are met. Um, and so there's different requirements put on it should you so choose to implement such a council. Um, but it kind of just talks through how you know the members who are going to be included um in the library council and um this is a shout. So when we acquire materials including procedures for for procurement of library materials and the receipt of donated library materials, the board has to have a procedure for um approving library materials that have been donated or procured by a district library with the advice and recommendations of any SWAC. Um

046make the list of library materials not described um accessible for review. approve or reject the list of library materials that have been donated or uh proposed to be procured by a school library in an open meeting and ensure compliance with the library standards approved. So, all of that is acquisition of our of our instructional materials that we're going to have to address. Um, and each school board's entitled to review each list of library materials that have been donated to um or that are proposed to be procured by a school library in the district and proposed changes to the list. and the school board shall approve or reject a list of library materials that have been donated or proposed to be procured by a school library at the first open meeting. The board held um on

047or after the 30th day after the date the list is made accessible for review. So we have to do a timely review and approval or rejection of the list. So that is going to be additional you know board um board requirements that we're going to want to make sure and fulfill. Um the trustees have to complete a state board of education or tea uh parents right training and the tea has to create a per parental rights handbook that we're going to incorporate into all of our handbooks. It's just pretty much setting out what parents rights are in the state of Texas um for school for public school students. So um this is a new Senate Bill 413 under TOMA Texas open meetings act. Um we have to approve minutes as follows. Um it has to

048have all of these components. So board secretary take note attendance at or absence from the meeting for each member. Um each member's vote on any item that is voted on by the board at the meeting. The board shall make a recording of each regular or special meeting of the board. Y'all have already transitioned into that is my understanding. The minutes and recording of an open meeting must be accessible to the public. And we shall post on the district's internet website the minutes um and seven days after the meeting in which the board approves not 7 days after meeting for which the minutes were taken. So 7 minutes after the meeting in which the board approves we districts minutes and they haven't been updated since like January 24 or something. You want to be timely with

049this since it's required. Now, um any resolution adopted by um a resolutions approved must be placed on the website within 7 days of their approval. So, that's important. Buses. So, um we're it's pretty much like a safety report um to tea that that um you know discusses each of our buses and if they're equipped with seat belts um two point seat belts, three point seat belts and estimated cost to the district to equip them with threepoint seat belts. And so, um the end of the 2526 school year, that's when we have to do that. if we wave seat belt requirements on buses. So, typically these are buses that are older in our commission. I believe your transportation people would know this better than me. Um, but if you've waved seat belt requirements, that's why you

050have to provide this information to EA. Essentially, how many of our buses don't have it and what it would take what it would cost to equip them? At least once a year, the school board or charter shall include during a public meeting a discussion of the performance of students receiving special ed services. So that's SB568. So this is a Texas Public Information Act um issues special rights of access. Any board member um acting in their capacity is allowed to have and I don't believe this has changed. I mean, they've always been allowed to pretty much have any um document in the district. Um that doesn't mean that we otherwise wave um privacy requirements. We can re request, hey board member, will you please sign sign this um confidentiality agreement not to uh reveal confidential FURPA

051information or things like that. Um if a board member declines to do that, um then we can we go down here. um can appeal it to the AG so they could say no I don't want to and here's why. Um hopefully a board member wouldn't be inclined to do that. I think you all would have the best intentions to keep things confidential confidential but that is um you know an option. It's essentially saying that board members aren't restricted in the information that they can have. So ballots it's another ballot format um requirement. I thought this was interesting. The statement this is a tax increase has to be included where applicable and for purchasing um we've now increased the threshold amount to trigger competitive purchasing requirements. It used to be 50,000 and now Senate Bill 1173

052has increased that value to 100,000. So taxes um this this Bill 1502 essentially prohibits the adoption of disaster pennies in the tax rate after a bad rate. I don't know if I'm saying that correctly, um fails in the same tax year. Tax is certainly not my forte. Um I understand you have um specific questions about how appropriately to election um or you know not not engage in illegal electioning or promote a tax um tax rate um you know initiative. But um but this Senate Bill 1502 kind of speaks to some of that. We can't adopt a tax rate under subsection E for a tax year in which the governing body previously adopted tax rate that exceeded the district's voter approved tax rate. Um an election was held for the purpose of determining whether to approve

053the district's adopted tax rate and the proposition to approve the district's adop adopted tax rate was not approved by the voters of the district at the election. So that's essentially without saying that we you know whenever that whenever it is failed in the same tax year. Now these are important just for a basic fundamental knowledge I think for board members. I don't think it'll you know this is the day-to-day stuff for your administrators but I think just these were significant bills that came out of the legislature that I think would be important for y'all to at least have some fundamental awareness of. So, House Bill six pretty much upended discipline. Um, and these are issues that could come to you in an appeal eventually. Um, so we can adopt a policy for parental involvement in

054school disciplinary placements. It's not going to be a required. That's going to kind of be something that your um administration will probably make a recommendation on, but we have expanded reasons and restricted pro uh and restricted the procedure that teachers can use to remove students from their classroom. So I would say just defined it um a little bit closer. There's always been a procedure for teachers to remove kids who are unduly disrupted or assault assaulting them or assaulting others. Um and there's always been mechanisms for that and then a way for us to consider whether or not child should remain removed. So that's kind of what that speaks to. Um we've expanded the reasons that students can be given out of school suspension. Um, DAP is no longer required for possessing or using an ecigarette,

055but we have put into place, I think, the ISS will pretty much be required. Um, but we had this problem years ago where we had a hard and fast rule about um an ecigarette regardless of what was in it, right? Like nothing's in it. It's just an ecigarette. We had to put them in DAP and that was backlogging a lot of our DAPs. So, that's still an option, but it's not always required. And I think something we've talked about in our firm is we're going to have to look at just the apparatus of the ecigarette versus what's in the ecigarette because there's obviously required removals if there's um illegal drugs in there um versus nicotine versus some something that's not illegal. So all of those things I think will be taken into consideration and it's

056not just a hard and fast rule of if you have an ecigarette regardless of what's in it, you know, you have to go to DAP. Um, and we've added reasons for student expulsion and emergency TAP. So, I will say we've stiffened and kind of tightened up disciplinary procedures. I think there's been a lot of things in the media of students being abusive to staff members and then legislators kind of taking note. So, there has been kind of a switch in our um legislator's, you know, viewpoint on some of these things. This is helpful for a lot of districts. Students can now be placed in a virtual expulsion program. we have these problems of like, well, what do we do with these kiddos if we're um expelling them and we don't have a JJ in our

057um county? Um can we virtually educate them? Now, it's going to take I think some commissioners rules on whether this can be implemented in a DAP setting or if the kiddos too violent for DAP, which comes up a lot. I think that'll be interesting to to kind of see how the commissioner comes up with his regulations on this. Um, TEA can't limit funding based on student discipline data. That's significant because there's always been incentives for students to not discipline because it's tied to their funding. So, that that prohibits that. Um, threat assessment team for a fed student must include a person with with knowledge of the students disabilities. I think that's always heard unofficially, but that's an official requirement. And written parental consent required before health mental health services are provided. Um, that's always been

058the case in my opinion. Um, so this is significant y'all. I have a case right now that's um just the case that will never end about reporting reporting um you know educator misconduct. And so House Bill 4623 was probably one of the most um instrument or I don't know instrumental to districts or significant I guess I should say to districts that passed this legislative session. Essentially it's saying that anyone that fails to report or engages in negligent um grossly negligent, reckless um or intentional hiring, supervising or employing um of an employee can be liable. So that individual, principal, superintendent um would be added to a lawsuit and that individual waves their immunity. So that is significant. We've always said if you sue us in um state court for negligence, then we are immune unless that

059individual engage in some kind of negligent discipline of a child or negligent supervision of a child. Well, now this bill specifically weighs immunity for those cases, which is significant. Um, background checks are more important than ever. That said, y'all, I never I've never come across a case in my career, I can say confidently, where we did not background check someone who later came out to be a sex offender. It wasn't like, oops, we didn't background check the sex offender who had a long, you know, laundry list of offenses. It's always the first time, never been in trouble. who knows how long they've been doing it that person. So, I can't really say that um well, now we really have to crack down. I think it's important to do ongoing checks. I know a lot of

060districts who will do weekly if not daily checks of has anyone in our employee um hit our hit the you know the the c the crimes list like he committed a crime recently. Um so ongoing checks may be important. I would say continuing to employ people who say would with a simple check pop up on a on a sex offender um list. And so that may be important more important than anything because I don't think any district is really guilty of not background checking. There may be some that none that I'm aware of. Um it's always in the news comes out as people who are firsttime offenders who've probably been doing it forever without ever being caught. Um, so the superintendent has to notify us if there's evidence that the educator abused or otherwise committed

061an unlawful act with the student, involved in a solicited or solicited a romantic relationship, engaged in inappropriate communications. This is where I start to fall off because it's definitely the eye of the holder. Failed to maintain appropriate boundaries. So a lot of the times these cases are we see in hindsight. So, um, yes, when Mr. So and So touched student's hand, in hindsight, he was a big creep. In hindsight, he's a sex offender. In hindsight, we wanted him far away from our children. But that act in and of itself in the old days wasn't a reportable educator misconduct or reportable abuse. So, I think that's going to be dicey and I think they're going to be inundated with a lot of reports because everything could potentially not maintain appropriate boundaries. A students having a hard

062day and they initiate a hug with with a um educator certainly could be an indication of inappropriate boundaries or no mal intentions at all. And how do we know until we know? So, um so that's kind of interesting. We've now um added service providers um and so we want to make sure we're back ground background checking our service providers who are providing services on our campuses before they're allowed access to or near or around our children. I think that's been occurring anyways as a as a rule. Um principal has to report to superintendent. We've now increased it used to be seven business days. It's now 48 hours and superintendent has to report to us back within 48 hours. of any educator misconduct and parent as soon as feasible ASAP right away. Don't wait. Not this

063district, but I've had districts in the past who are like, "Yeah, it happened 3:00 on a Friday, so we didn't really think much of it till Monday." That's not timely reporting. They will be out of compliance. And that's important that we as a board know and encourage. Um, this is significant as well. um people having a reasonable cause to believe a child's been abused or neglected used to be a 48 hour requirement. It's now a 24-hour requirement for a district employee. That is significant. Very significant. So, as board members in a somewhat small town, we always say rumor mill is enough. You hear Miss So and so's having an inappropriate relationship with Johnny. We don't say, "Oh, but that could really ruin someone's life. We don't want to get involved in that." rumor mill is

064enough in these cases. Your superintendent's job and all of your administrator's jobs and liberties depend upon it. Your liberties as board members um depend upon it. Obviously, the student being abused is the first and foremost concern and we want to act immediately on those. And so, just know it's like a yesterday requirement. Now, there is no sit back and wait and ponder and consider and go on weekends. Um so that is it as far as the legislative updates. Um Mr. Bolton could ask that I talk a little bit about voter approval tax rate election. Does anyone have any thing they want to raise with me up to later? >> Okay. >> So hopefully that all made sense and you have your resources you know that I provided you that you can refer go back and

065refer to. So if the school is attached, we have one question. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. >> Are there any recommendations for keeping cell phones put up? I've seen some things where there are like bags and things like that that they keep them in school. I'm just curious if there's anything that's recommended. >> Are there any recommendations on where to keep cell phones? you know, um I think like the commissioner may be coming out with some of those in his regulations. Um Talsby often has those like here's some Q&A and recommendations for what you how you can implement this. Um as does TEA for me. I'm like I don't know if the answer is we go you know securing them is one thing like storing them is one thing. Securing them and making sure they don't

066get stolen during the day is another. Um, you know, I don't know if it's like we just go simple and have like a a sleeve that they put it in. Um, but again, my concern is securing them. So, I don't have a great answer for that. I would think like your administrators have better um more innovative ideas than your school lawyer does. Um, and I haven't heard any recommendations. Of course, our legislature just passes these things. because they don't ever give recommendations, but I haven't heard any recommendations from the powers study, but that is something that I'm sure is being discussed in superintendent trainings and um and you know, if we put our heads together, we can think about it. Um and you know, the other option is just to ban them all together from

067from being out during the school day or being, you know, being from being out and used during the school day. So that's the other alternative if you don't want to be responsible for holding >> them home for just a second. Right. >> So that's kind of a nonwans answer. I don't have a great recommendation for that. I know like I've heard school employees be like, "Yeah, we we have teachers who have like a slave and each kid puts them in their sleeve." Of course, our legislators know how smart our kids are and they bring burner phones to put in the sleeve so they can use their real phone all day. So this is going to be a battle for us. Um, so I don't know if some administrators think it's cleaner just to ban them

068all together that it's not like the constant battle. If I see it, it's mine, you know. Um, so that's just something for your administration to all over. >> Okay. And then we have one more question. >> Okay. >> Well, did you want to make one statement? >> I I spoken with Tasby. I'm doing a training with him this week, but as it stands right now, unless the commissioner comes out with additional guidance, It's either ban them completely where they can't have them at all or like um Andrea said um um that they're out of sight and out of sight can be in a secure location can be in their own backpack as as what Tazby is saying right now unless something comes out differently from the commissioner but then it's but then it's coming up

069with the guidelines that'll be in the student code of conduct that we'd be bringing to the board and needed feedback on. Um but it it would in there we would have to state just like she's mentioned um the discipline the consequences then how would we secure it if we take it up that you know if if >> can you all hear us still >> yeah yeah >> okay I just want to make sure I didn't break connection or >> what what they're saying is that right now the way they're interpreting it and most districts are going to interpret it just because of the sheer you know if you have to put them in the lock bags and You have to have an employee every morning to help take all these funds up and then redistribute

070them at the end of the day and all of this. It's going to be if we make the decision, the board makes the decision as a district that they can have them with them that unless the state says something different, it could be the secure location can be on their person, but it can they cannot ever have them out. And so some districts are choosing just to say can't have them at all. But then if they do have them um It's the same thing >> makes it problematic before that my question is it says on school property during the school day >> during the school day >> just during instructional hours that's the way that TAS is interpreting that is during instructional hours but again this week I think we'll get some more guidance with

071that but that's the way they're interpreting is during what we're calling instructional time which would include athletics if it's within our 750. >> Well, that includes lunch. >> Yes. >> Sure does. It includes passing periods. It includes everything once they walk in that building. >> That's right. >> First belt, the last bell. >> That's right. And I'm going to And Mr. Smith, I hope we get some guidance. I'm almost thinking they're going to say once we open the doors for the morning because otherwise, but we'll get hopefully get some clarity on that. >> My uh my cousin works at a head of course office. She said she >> we already have in our policy that um our students are not to have cell phones out and no earbuds, no headphones. So we've already are a

072step ahead for two years. They're not supposed to have them out or and have them in use. So it's just making for the board to make the additional law determinations. >> Ready to move on? Yes. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. I'm sorry. I thought I was waiting for a question. >> Um, was there was there any more questions or we're good? >> We're good. Uh, we're good. We'll make it. >> Okay. So, the voter approval tax rate election. If a school board adopts a tax rate that exceeds its uh voter approval tax rate, it must hold a voter approval tax rate election for the voters of the district to approve that rate. Unless disaster exceptions discussed below apply, we have to conduct an efficiency audit before holding that election. So these are your deadlines. Selecting

073an auditor 4 months before um 3 months before we have to complete the audit 30 days before we have to post the results of the audit and conduct the meeting. Um and then it has to be held on a uniform election date. And the deadline to order an election on a uniform election day is not later than the 78th day before the election day. So that's just kind of procedural um more procedural. We have to adopt the budget and tax rate before ordering the election. And all other deadlines and requirements of the elections code of course apply to that type of election. Um, and this is kind of the the ballot has to permit for and against the proposition. And this is kind of the language that's to be used and it sets forth what

074the increase in the percentage rate in maintenance and operation tax revenue under the adopted tax rate versus the preceding tax year as well as that dollar amount. So that's your balance issues. So if a majority of the vote cast in an election favor the proposition to approve the rate, the tax rate for the current year is the rate adopted by the board. If it's not approved, the board may not adopt a rate that exceeds the district's um VATR. Um so that's your procedures and your deadlines. as far as promoting or at least like dispersing information on these things. These are the elections codes and the education code um provisions that are germanine to the issue. So an officer or an employee of a school district can't knowingly spend or authorize the spending of public funds

075for political advertising. So you can't in your scope as a board member um or you know using district property um during board me board meetings be promoting um measures like political measures things that are going to you're you know advocating the passage of or you're saying everyone vote for this particular initiative. Now, this does not apply to communication that just factually describes the purposes of a measure if the communication doesn't advocate um passage or defeat the measure. So, we have um focus groups or people who include board members that just disperse the information um broadly but aren't necessarily advocating for the passage or the defeat of a measure. So that would be safe communication and we know under the ele the education code there's a further you know uh provision that says again you can't

076use state or local funds to election election year for in this case a measure a polit you know some kind of political action. And so that's the important parts to realize when you're discussing this with the public is you want to make very sure that you know you're not using district funds, time, money, um your scope as a board uh member, your influence as a board member. You're not I wouldn't put yourself in a position where you're pushing um promoting any kind of measure. It's more of an informational these are you know this is the purpose factual and not a persuasive scope. >> So so like in our bond that was just information [Music] and ours was just strictly only the facts and then the other group they send out information. >> Can you still

077hear me? Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. >> All right. Well, that's what I have for that portion. >> Unless there's questions or >> anything like that instruction. Um, Andrea, the question was is will you give us instructions on of what can and can't be DOI? >> I'm sorry. Can you >> what things can be what things can be DOI and what cannot. Will you send us on that? Okay. >> So, I have um a great article that one of my associates wrote that kind of talks about the things and I'll forward it to Mr. Bowling. the things that specifically can't be DOI out of. One of them is the changes to chapter 37 um cannot be DOI out of but there are several others in this legislative session and then he discusses some that like Senate

078Bill 12 where there wasn't a specific um provision saying you can't. So I will um actually send that right now and there may be others which we can like we can discuss one by one but um Tyler's article was really good on just kind of covering the most um you know the most um the significant bills this legislative session on that topic. >> Any other questions? >> Okay. Well, I think we're good. Thank you for the presentation. You're welcome. Thank y'all so much. You >> all ready to sign off? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. All right. Thank you guys. >> Thank you. >> Have a good evening. >> So, and in your packets, you have this if you can follow along. Um, are y'all going to put it up there? Put it on there. You

079might have to hold a little bit next to him. All right. So, you should have your packet and you can follow along with that or on the screen. Um, there's going to be some additional pages in your packet um that we'll get to. Um, so we just wanted to start the discussion with you guys on um like what the cost to homeowners could look like. And so when we talk about that, we're looking at M compressed tax rate from TEA. Um they give us basically what our M um compress rate is. And then we've previously adopted tier 2 pennies that were allowable without a voter election. >> So those M is our maintenance and operation and that's what pays off bills. INS is the >> the debt. interest in sinking. >> So, um the previously

080adopted tier 2 pennies is five pennies that the board has already adopted in the past that continue on and those do not did not need a voter election back in when those were adopted. And so those continue on. We have the INS tax rate which is the interest in syncing and that's only allowable for debt payments. Uh we also look at the homestead exemption which you know this year is up for um an increase a $40,000 increase which we always anticipate that's going to pass by the voters. >> That's a I believe a that constitutional amendment that's going to the voters and >> it'll go in the November election. Yeah. >> So uh if it passes though then that takes effect this next year with property taxes. Um, and then we look at the average

081Mayo home value, which for our purposes we've been using $350,000. And then you can see on the right side the formula that we use. So you take your taxable value divided by 100 because your tax rate is per $100 of home value and then you times that by the total tax rate. When we do the average May home value, is that May Prod value or May value? >> May prod I would guess. I mean, >> we'll get a more defined number. >> Yeah, this is coming just from me. It's not necessarily from the appraisal district on the average home value. It's just more for purposes of >> looking at the formulas. Yeah. >> When we get when we get to that, we get the end result of uh we get certified results from the appraisal

082district July 25th but historically it's been a couple days after that the past two years so we can look at statistical data as far as the average probably we'll get more data as far as that it always amazes me that they still say 350 There's not a lot of >> difference or just >> so I'm gonna have to kind of come up because that fan I can't hear y'all whenever I'm >> so if we look at this first example that we're looking at 2425 just so that way we can look at comparisons to the tax effects with proposed bayers. And so the 2425 year, our M rate was 6169 cents. We had the five pennies and then our INS rate was 3097. And then uh the homestead exemption was 100,000. And then we're looking at

083the average mro home value at 350K. And so the total tax rate there is 97.66. And so the formula you would see gives us basically a tax bill for the ISD portion of the taxes at 244150. And then if we look at proposing a three golden penny increase, this is what we're looking at for a compressed M rate this year is going to be 5870. And then we still have the five pennies. And then our INS rate remain the same at 3097. The homestead exemption is going to increase. We just going to anticipate that it does pass the election. And so it would go up to 140,000. And so that average mural home value of 350,000 with the applied homestead exemption would go down to 210,000 for total taxable value. And then if we added

084additional three golden pennies, our tax rate was really close to what it was this past year at 9767. So we were at 9766, but you can see with that extended homestead exemption, then with that tax rate, the total tax bill still goes down. It goes down to $2517. So a reduction by $390. Now, if we look at three golden and three copper pennies, you can see what that does. The total tax rate at the bottom have 1.0067. And then on the formula side, you know, still taking all the things else into consideration. Um, the tax bill turns into 2011407. Still a reduction by $327. And so one other thing we wanted to just mention with those um options, those um estimates, we would need to talk with our financial advisor Jeff Robert from Hilltop Securities,

085but there is possibility to reduce the INS rate as well. Um that's the money that we get to pay for our debt. Um, he would have to confirm that we would be able to make our debt payment with whatever we would set that to, but I think as low as 27 cents is what he was initially anticipating. But if we do that, the reason we keep that at a stable 30 97 is so that way we can continue to defease our bonds and pay early. That reduces the burden on taxpayers in the future. >> He essentially was talking about taking that pennies off there, but the six over here. So, you're essentially doing the 97, but what you're doing is you're taking the compression plus the three pennies off of your ins, which gives you

086a total of But you're adding six back and your copper pennies. What you also get with diffusing your bonds are on the side is building your body capacity. So that's why we do that just in the future if we want. go out for another bond or we can pay down now what we're existing you know paying off of the tax he was trying to get you to that$1 million so essentially I I mean, like we could like with this one, if we wanted to shave off the three pennies on the INS side, we would be paying off any debt really, >> but we would be essentially still reducing that total tax rate down to what we were this year. [Music] So I asked them to create some options for you guys so you guys can

087see what all they'll explain some more. So the option one would be to add the three golden pennies to the M rate. that would get us roughly. This is all, you know, just estimates. It's not hard numbers, but 750,000 105,000 of that would go towards an anticipated budget deficit that we're going to have. The way things are looking right now, it's not a huge deficit, but that 105,000 would go towards that. And then 645,000 would be um a realignment of staff pay scales and additional staff raises and new positions that are listed there about how much those races are. Is there an approximate on that number like for teachers or administrators? Is there like >> Yeah, it's all in your packet. >> Sorry. Go for it. Go. >> So, we'll go through the options and

088we'll come back and talk about what? >> So, to continue on option one, we have 201 staff roughly currently this year. So, 62.2% is exempt, 37.8% is non-exempt. with this option of the bader adding three additional spots, 204 staff, and it doesn't really change the percentage much on the exempt non-exempt. Um, with this option, we'd be putting $445,000 towards exempt staff and then 200,000 towards non-exempt staff. And just as a reminder, exempt staff is salaried professionals that typically have contracts and they're exempt from overtime pay. Non-exempt are your hourly at will employees that are subject to overtime pay for any hours over 40 in a work week. Now, just for another option, option two would be more of an even evening out of the three golden pennies. So, still the same three golden pennies, but

089just allocating it differently. 250,000 to the exempt staff, 250,000 to non-exempt staff, and then 250,000 to those added positions, and then whatever's left go towards that budget deficit. Just clarification on the exempt versus nonex. So teachers are >> like exams, >> right? So they're not exempt professionals, >> your campus like your campus secretaries, >> cafeterias, bus drivers. Yes, >> for sure. Just for clarity sake, somebody's watching on YouTube. I want to make sure they understand what we're talking. >> All right. Option three, we have um this is kind of if you wanted to go at a different approach with the golden pennies for this year and you know when we have to adopt the budget um in August if y'all wanted to say we're just going to if this later passes that 500 of that

090500,000 of the additional pennies um yield we're going to give towards a retention stipen this year which would be just blanket 2500 to fulltime or 1250 to parttime paid out in July and then Basically the following year after that those realignments and the salary increases will take effect. We we went into a training last I think it was last year they started together Doug Williams came out he said one of the things that they did in Sunnyville ISD was is rather than approving two separate budgets and and all that. He said they when they got the mayor passed it was this option three kind of thing was what they passed so that they could go okay we're use some of this money to give ret you already kind of have your staff that school year,

091right? So, you're you're trying to retain them. So, you're giving them you're saying, "Hey, look, you stay, you're getting this retention bonus or stop, excuse me, and then for the next year, you're building all of those that that money in for the salary piece so that they get all of that piece." And then that 250 was basically for any additional positions that are added during that school year or also affecting any kind of def budget deficit trying to reduce the deficit. So he said that's kind of how they did it that first year and then the second year you build all that in because it's kind of a two they get the money. I mean the staff's getting money and and they're incentivized to go help us with that. But the other side of that

092is it's not built into their salary for that one year. The other side of that is is you can approve with it whether it's option one or two or this option four that I'll talk about, you can approve two essentially two budgets so to speak and with one of them being the election passes. The issue you run into is okay now you got to go back and retroactively pay people for their was it September October of course the elections early November so much but you're retroactively going back that amount or coming up with some kind of system to do that. So there there's no real wrong answer there. It's just that's two different ways. >> Then an option four would be if we wanted to go for the six pennies, which would be three golden

093and three copper. And that would get us the estimated $1 million yield. 105 of that still going towards that anticipated budget deficit. And then 645,000 still going to those additional staff pieces. But then just using what's left of that, the 250,000 to build up the fund balance kind of taking y'all's building, >> right? >> That's what the million dollar. So, can I can I step in or am I mess? So, if you go into option one and you're looking at salaries, if you go back here to the back piece of it, what they've done is is they've they've shown you essentially what the salaries as annual amount will be for the 2526 and then the Vader proposed amount would be out beside it. That's for the option one. And um so you can kind of

094go by there's the teacher salary. So starting salary for this next year would be is 48,800, but this would bump it up to 52,650. Um and then you can go on over across and you can see the different uh folks classifications of folks. What this is basically based upon is because they're days of work. Is that right? 197 And so you can see different salary amounts really take that that salary amount just expanded upon days. Um and then going into the next piece but you get over here where the red line across you see the minimum midpoint maximum. What we're trying to get to is is kind of achieving two goals. By the piece that we put together, and this shirt's done most of this work, is you put all this together, you're looking at

095a system where we're going to be very very competitive with even some we're getting closer to our 48 and 5 around us. But what it also does is it sets us up with a pay structure that now we can start doing a percentage off of our because now we have the alignment, right? Or we can start saying, "Hey, let's just do a percentage off of rather than recreating the wheel every year, which is kind of what we've been in pattern quite a while. Just trying to catch up with other schools based on our abil It's a it's an expensive piece to get in place, but it also but that's where we're wanting to go is trying to get more competitive for the teachers and our educators and and get and then also supporting our non-exempt

096staff and increasing their salaries as well. You can see we'll see what the starting rates and what the hikes could be. But um it helps us achieve two goals being competitive but then also giving us a structure to where now we can do a percentage off of that. >> Is there anything else that I need to share with that say that right? >> Yeah. So the one side is what the the current salary scale is going to be for 2526 and then this is what it would look like if the mayor were to if we were to go with option one. Um and then just so you guys know um like the midpoint is going to be around 15 years of service and max point is going to be around 30 years of service. >>

097If you go back to that back tab tab four you'll see last year's grand I'm going to tell you a lot of the school districts have out. But we have last year's so they start where they started off that and and then what they're doing as far as monthly insurance we're doing $100 more. Um as far as that our starting salary is already above but but where they got us is when we get into a couple years in >> I think year five is when they catch up to us and start passing us. And so then when you go over to Wah Hatche, you can hear see their starting salary 546. So with the Vader, we did 52 526. So we're getting real close. And so that's with a very large district. That doesn't mean

098they don't raise theirs, but that gets us a lot closer. >> The thing is they're a larger district so they get a little big in those other years of service. >> Yeah, they got 25 actually has theirs listed out for what they're doing with this new HP2. So you can see there's they're g% increase those first three steps and then the required 4,000 and 8,000 for the rest. We also have Venus ISD's schedule. They're on the 4 day week though. So that has to be taken into consideration. and that we were unsure if their teacher salary schedule for 2526 that they have posted is the one that actually has the requirements for HB2 because it doesn't really look like it is. They may not have it updated. >> They might not have it updated or

099they might be doing it in a different way like they might be doing the stipen option. >> So some districts what they're doing is is they're putting in the do okay because they're a bigger district so they may get 25,000. And so what some of them are doing is they'll start they'll come over here, they'll take this and they'll put a line out here. They'll just say you're getting a part of the house or whatever and they're putting the dollar amount on. You're not adding it into the actual salary per sheet. The teacher gets it obviously it's not added in there. Uh different districts are doing that differently as far as how Now the other side of that is is when you have a very high low socioeconomic school district, you're eligible for a lot

100more federal funds. And so when you have a lot more federal funds in your school district, that's taking federal dollars in being able to spread those out and do that. The uh danger in that is we're in a year this year where They're actually telling folks, hey, some actions by the federal government. There may be some cuts or hold ups on some of those funds. And so they may now be receiving some of that money. They may they may do it. I don't know how that's going to all work out, but um we were even receiving letters on we don't we are in a situation. We receive some federal dollars, but our entire budgeted amount is what about $70,000 50 to 70. for the ones federal dollars. >> Uh well, we have we have more

101on the IDB side. >> When you take when you take the three budgets amounts, you got state, local, and federal. We budgeted. How much is that? >> Well, that's just for our revenue though, >> right? >> Yeah. We budget this year. I'm only putting 35,000. Last year we did 80. >> We did 80. >> I know it's your main year. There's possibility, but we only estimate this much because you never know what you're going to get. So we're we're not as in danger as others. Um and then that tab five there is just kind of for your information. It's our most recent um preliminary values from the appraisal district. June 23rd they give you a breakdown over all the counties so you get everyone's but pearls ISD is that bottom line in the first section

102so what we have to do is that bolded amount in the net taxable column we have to look at that but we also have to take out the anticipated homestead exemption increase and so on the back side of that page I had asked the chief appraiser if they had anything that they could send us. And so they came up with this Excel sheet that kind of broke it down and um gave us like a adjusted net taxable for if 140,000 passes. >> So that's where it takes, >> right? That's what that's what values I'm using. coming up with revenue and stuff we're going to get that number. >> So, so given the information that we've given you all, do you all have any questions on that piece? And then really what this is meant for

103is what what what suggestions, ideas, thoughts so that we can write it down moving forward. We have a good idea where you guys need to hit the mark on it. That's what we're taking action. This is just clarification. So any so any suggestions, ideas, thoughts? >> I think again just another point of clarification. This is go for the pennies and the voters approve it. This is budget money, right? What we're doing is discussing what we're going to do with that extra funds, right? So that is what allows us to do maybe stipens this time and then just roll it in budget next year if it's approved vice versa. It's not >> but this has to be approved correct before we have to say what we're going to do with it before we put it out

104there for that question. Well, technically, no. You just have to call the election. But it would be best practice for us to be able to tell voters, this is what the board said, >> just like you did with the bond. You said, "Hey, this is what we plan to do with the bond. This is what we're just put on the ballot. This is a tax increase. See who didn't vote for it. But >> if we can come up with a good game plan. >> Yeah. >> And then we get everybody else to get us some good stuff out there that >> people would be behind this. I feel like I especially if we're saying hey we're putting this salaries you know we're >> I think what's surprising probably to some people is going to be

105to a lot of people I mean to most people $750,000 that's a lot of money. is a lot of money, but when you start dividing that out over 2004 employees, it becomes not a lot of money is going to be added to each person's pay when you start doing that. And I know over the years being here, we've given raises and everything. We just increased y'all by 400 something thousand, you know, but didn't turn out. I mean, that's%'s [Music] people that we've already um gotten a little more competitive like our um administrative staff and stuff like that, they would only get be getting two and a half% off off that point. So, um but there's other positions that yeah, I mean there there will be a significant increase to them. But um like for the

106pair of professionals it's on average 70%. Um the ones that have longevity here are a little bit higher. So um the average of all of our pair professionals is 9.1%. >> For teachers about you I mean you're just always so prepared. calculate that percentage because I was thinking about seven about three grand [Music] also does face out getting more by two things. what happened with this last legislative year, but I think it doesn't get us much closer because even though we've increased everybody else and so just want to make sure that there's not going to be my knowledge Uh the districts that have baiters, they're already there. They're already there. They already have we on our wait because we knew that passed first. So for the teacher salaries um from what we've already proved to

107with the Vader the average over the 30 years is 4.8%. Um, but there's some positions like those earlier years where it's 9% or 10%, you know, but then there's a few years where we're we're just over that 2 and a half% of the midpoint because >> I saw that the like and I'm just looking at first year because if I look at it all, I'm just going to get used. So, uh, with the without about $4,000, let's just call it $4,000 salary increase. If we went to the six pennies from the three now, how much does that change at that point? >> So, if we went with the six pennies um the what we've presented to you, we weren't going to use those extra free pennies for these salaries. We were going to use that

108for um you know the fund balance and the deficit and stuff like that or whatever you guys feel that's necessary. But um you know, we have these extra positions built into um the first three pennies, too. So, if we needed other academic instructional positions, we could add those with those other three pennies. Or if we wanted to use those other three pennies for the added positions and we use utilize that money to even increase these um these salaries even more, we can do that as well. >> If you went that route towards things, but two for employees. [Music] Another question on option three. So what I like about it is it kind of looks out for the school and keeping people but it also gives the teachers money. So yeah with option three we have

109500 towards a retention stip of 2500 for fulltime 1250 for part time. Um my question is so they start this year they have their salaries right they're getting paid and this is in addition to the one that you already >> right right so they got their salary throughout the year this snipment when does it get to them is it like a and obviously they have to sign their contract for the next year how that kind of >> yeah so it would be paid out in July of 2026 after because the cut off they >> get a summer bonus and then >> Christmas in July >> and then they get a raise in August >> yeah But because you know they have to withdraw their contract 45 days before the first day of instruction. So we

110would know you know if they're going to withdraw their contract before payroll has to be implemented whenever they get that bonus for. Um, if we did, again, I know that we already talked about if we did the additional three pennies, but I'm just hypothetically thinking if we did the six pennies and option three and it's a million instead of 750. I guess we're looking about the same thing like the go, 500 or something like that. We can still do that same year. [Music] Lots of options here. Golden are you going to Now the other side of that is saying that trying to basically shut down bonds earlier kind of deal. But the other side we're looking at potential bond package in the next five years next year. If we're looking at that, you're three cents

111in right now of that bond. If you go to cut that ins down now, you're going to have to raise up that 3 cents plus more to catch. You understand what I'm saying? So, that's just something to keep in mind. You know, you got that three cents working towards paying down the debt, saving, saving the taxpayers money down long term. So it's have another but if you take it all now and then you offer a bond in the next couple years then you're talking about going down you know and so when you go to try to get a bond bond capacity I say bond let's say try to pass something that's 20 30 million or whatever maybe looking at a 69 bond because question. So 250k for the three positions. That math is not mathing

112for me. >> It's um the three positions plus the deficit. >> 145,000. >> Yeah, it's math. Much better. Yeah, it's a roughly 145,000 for the three positions and then 105 for the deficit. >> So, we're talking about option. >> That was my question. On option two, >> you got 250,000 broken out for exempt and non-exempt, >> but that's not equitable compared to option one, right? I mean, >> so option two is going to give the um salaried employees 50,000 less and it's going to give the non-exempt employees 50,000 more. So, you know, the non-exempt is going to get more in that scenario. >> And when you're looking at your percentages, the amount of employees, >> it's simpler, but it is Our our our recommendation would be to go with option one and at least year

113two maybe option three and year one go but if you don't want to make it too complicated if that seems too complicated to then you stick with just a year option one >> I I think um with option one to go off of what you said with the retention bonus and stuff, right, with option one, they would get that money in like December paid out the rest of their contract. So, they're going to be getting that money in real time and so that's going to also retain them, right? Hope hopefully. Um, but also um they are going to um like some of them are going to get $3,800, right? But then there are going to be those few that are only getting two and a half% which is going to be less than $2,500, you

114know? So, it's it's kind of a toss up. We want everybody. But I think it's important to say know that we also we have to have a decision as to which way we're going to go because we can't change their salaries after the budgets approved. So we have to know like if we have this money in the budget, this is the route we're going to take. You know, we can't say we're going to go with um the retention bonus and then come back and say, "Oh, actually we want to go ahead and just give everybody a raise right now because that was Well, what she's saying is before we go out for a vote for that because if we go out in August, >> right? We have to make the decision by the time budget's

115approved, we would approve two budgets. So, if this money is available, this is how we're going to spend it. >> So, when we approve or don't approve or whatever we do at the next meeting, we direction. You guys need to have action direction with this as well. >> So, technically it's not the next meeting because your next meeting is two weeks away. >> Yeah. >> But we can talk about it some more at the next meeting, but at the next meeting we need to set the date for our set for the vote being moved up. Remember, it has to be earlier in August. So, we got to set a date at the next meeting. to call the major. So at the next meeting you guys give us really good guidance on what you want because

116that next the very next bring what you want that make sense. >> So is it with the option three and I know I keep going back and forth trying to get all options with option three we don't have to necessarily adopt a second budget. It would just be right because is that the one you were talking about was >> just basically you adopt the budget tax like you've always done and basically say and then once it's passed then we can come back and do I think basically a budget amendment correct >> I was at the last meeting obviously but I watched some of it on the consultant there I'm thinking before, you know, a year ago before I was on the school board, I had no idea about any of school funding or budget, right?

117So, I'm thinking from that me a year ago and you're looking at the six pennies versus the three penny is a just a normal person like I was before and thinking now they're trying to double up the taxes. So, is there does a consultant think there's a benefit for going for the six versus the three? I'm thinking >> Yeah, it does. >> Yeah, more money for him. Yeah, I get it. But like >> just in general like >> what does it look like on the ballot? I guess it's going to say six >> versus 30. >> The consultant's thought was that if you did reduce the ins. So that's the way you make giving giving up. But the deal of it is is this >> that's up to you guys. I don't want to do

118but I I feel like when you do that you're putting yourself at jeopardy down the road bonding capacity and it kind of works against us down. It's a shortterm game for a long term. >> That's how I see it a little bit. I mean, I would love to get the six and give it give it all to, but I'm just saying the reality of it is at some point you guys are going to have to pass on that capacity. >> I say you have to educate them on their fifth grade. So, what do they do? >> But if you got that three pennies, that three pennies is going to get you the max amount that you're going to get. I mean, those gold pennies are getting a whole lot more money. And so, to a

119voter, you know, I wouldn't mind giving you the three, but you're asking for six. That six isn't giving you money, but yet I'm paying this up from Andrew's presentation. This is essentially what we would have to put on the ballot ratifying the at the lower tax rate of and you put the voter the right you're trying to adopt there and it would result in an increase of blank percentage which what's confusing about this and would be confusing to a lot of the voters is that that percentage might be negative with this homestead And then that other blank is an additional dollar amount that might be a negative amount. [Music] >> Well, the thing is because it's on the election that will not so it won't get. >> So really it won't get negative. We'll have

120to just educate them though that like hey in reality the homestead exemption is gonna increase when we share information. We basically said you're more than likely going to give us more compression is coming. So more compression comes even though we're adding it's not really adding that is about and that's exactly what happened. We raised the tax rate but then compression came and the tax rate. So when they actually got to tax bill, the tax rate was less than what we had to go out there. It's very confusing. But as far as breaking out the amounts to procedures, we just need good guidance. As far as information, we can get basic information pieces. The third thing is there is the opportunity before this is called to put together a group or committee that might wish to

121go out and advance the cause after it's called. And so if you have any individuals in mind said a lot earlier, but remember I know we can't can teachers after school. You guys can just [Music] >> so teachers could be on the committee on that. I guess technically they could after it's just probably >> but I don't know whatever the committee is probably should not be teachers >> but that we have like meetings or whatever >> it's usually better for it to be >> some churches business owners you think of people that would be interested that would go out there and work for this only kind of put on it. We can only put any other suggestions. >> So just [Music] what it does is it it makes your next only if you reduce your

122but >> we can still go for the three gold and three copper without >> far as where does that go to being like just not know anything about it you know but when you do that you are raising the tax rate >> you're raising the tax rate and >> it's still a different position so like even though they're getting Well, what I was saying what I was looking at was about the average, right? So again, you know, we would have to educate them. I do think that we said, "Hey, we're going to take that extra three cents, just toss it towards our fund balance." There's no human being in this city that's going to go, "That's a great idea. Let's do that." Right? Just because 98% of the people is that have no idea what

123your fund balance is. I mentioned fund balance. They think it's like our party money. >> Yeah. >> I mean, they don't hear the D on the fund balance. >> All right. I got fund balance at home, too. So I think we're if we do end up going that direction. >> I mean I like the idea. I like the idea. We need to add to the fund balance. >> I mean we could say that we're going to give a retention sip on top of the increases and then for year two you have it for the fund balance. Okay, it is 8:27 and we are going closed.

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