001Mic check one, two. Mic check one, two. >> It taste it taste. I hear you. Good. >> There's a little bit of hum on the stream. >> Yeah. Um, I think Gregor's noticing that, especially when it's quiet, there's a hum. That's what uh Underwood's guy was saying, too. He I saw him in the stadium and he was just like kind of out of nowhere. We were talking about other stuff, but we've been talking for a while, but he just goes, "If you ever want me to get rid of that humus system, let me know." And I was like, "How do you know about that?" But apparently everybody can hear it. >> Well, hey, if he wants to do it, we should let him. >> Yeah. I mentioned it to Greg and I guess he and
002Underwood are going to talk about something. I don't know. But yeah, it'd be cool if the guy could show us some things and stick around and not get hired by other people and then we can't talk to anymore. >> All right, I'm going to call this tested. All right. Okay. Bye. Test test Jeremy. Test stream. Good afternoon everyone. Thank you for joining us. This is the special called board meeting for October 6th. Uh we are meeting today to put together our October agenda. It is noon in our new district offices. I'm calling the meeting to order and declaring that we have a quorum with five board members in person, one board member on Zoom, and our superintendent is also joining us on Zoom, and Dr. Sanders is sitting in with us this afternoon. Um, I
003don't believe we have anybody signed up for public forum, so we'll go straight into the agenda prep for October 20th. Dr. Sanders. Thank you, President Hollyy. So, we'll start with item five. But actually, before we get to item five, the superintendent's report, I was notified on Friday, we will need to have a public hearing for the Buoie Elementary turnaround plan. You'll notice that we have under academics report we have the Buoie Elementary turnaround plan but we were notified as of Friday that we will need to have a public hearing in order for read exactly what it says here. It requires the board of trustees to approve the turnaround plan in a public meeting solicit stakeholder public comment and submit the approved plan to the commissioner. In addition, we are required to have a public meeting
004and that public meeting will take place today um at Buouie Elementary. So, we will need to have that after the public forum. >> Okay. The next item, superintendent report. >> So, is that I'm sorry. Does that mean you're going to it will no longer be a standalone report like under academic reports C1. Is that going away? >> Yes sir. That is correct. >> Got it. [Music] So I guess the numbering will change also here. Is that correct? Okay. So item So item six now becomes the superintendent report update on library books. During the superintendent report, we will give a brief oral statement that corresponds with the more robust statement that will be a summary that will be provided in your board book. And this is related to last month when we had a number of
005statements that were provided. We will give you an update of everything that we've done over the last several months as far as trainings that have been provided. also how we have cleaned up our library system where some of the books that were mentioned are no longer even in circulation. We want to make sure that you have all that information as well as the public so that we will be presenting that to um as part of the superintendent's report, but you will have an executive summary as part of the board book for that meeting. >> Miss Hollyy. >> Yes. >> Uh thank you, President Hollyy. Dr. Sanders, I'm very much in appreciation of the work that your staff has done um to clean up our library system and kind of what records reflect what we actually
006have uh textually in our libraries. Is there any way and I don't need this as a like presentation to be delivered to the board, but can we include the process in which library materials go into our schools? So I'm assuming we have committees and staff reviewing that before books are ordered. So can that be included in that executive summary kind of the process in which any new books coming forward come in? Um I think that when we talk about educating the public is I think like mission critical to that conversation. We're just not someone's just not going on Amazon and and buying books, right? So that will also be a part of the presentation uh because there are new laws in effect as to what we have to do so that the public is informed
007of exactly what we're ordering and they get an opportunity to make comments and such. So that will be also a part of the presentation. So item seven, reports information. We'll have board recognitions, principal appreciation month proclamation. Our principles will be on hand for that. B, construction update, 2023 bond update. C, academics report. We'll have our first quarter academic update, which will include items related to academic performance, attendance, and discipline. We'll also have a bilingual update. Item eight, approval of consent agenda items. Letter A, approval of minutes for regular schedule board meeting on September 15, 2025 and special board meeting on October 6, 2025. Letter B, consider approval of board policy 125. Letter C, consider approval of City of San Marcus detention water quality inspection access easement at Doris Miller Middle School. Letter D, consider approval
008of budget amendments. Um, Mr. Sanders, we can remove the budget amendments. We don't have any this year. This month? Sorry. This year. I wish not this year, but no, not this month. Item nine, a board of trustees. Number one, consideration of naming a committee to name specific area within the new central administration building. >> Um, with this item, I think we also need to discuss the parental involvement committee that we discussed last month. I don't know if we need to actually take motion on it, but I have received no recommendations on that yet. So, um, you did send one. I missed it. I will go back. Sorry. Um, >> so I don't know if we actually need an item on this or I just need to remind everybody to get in a name. >> Yes,
009Mr. Arando. >> Uh, thank you, President Hollyy. This was more of a I guess check-in with staff. It was my understanding like several months ago you could go to the website and there was just like a a link that said like if you want to rename a school district facility, you could like submit it for consideration. And although I want public participation, I feel like that's a pretty low bar to request that we rename a facility just, oh well, I went on the website and like shot a name into the system. Is that still like our policy or is that still like a a portal that is usable? Because if it is, I' I'd like to have like a more holistic conversation about that, right? Because again, I'll just get on there today and say
010like, "Hey, I want to rename the Crockett Cafeteria after somebody, right?" Which again leads lends itself to being like abused if not done correctly. >> So I think >> I was just curious. >> Yeah. So I mean I think that goes into this thing that I've been thinking about which is that we have a number of areas where we really need involvement but we need people who are going to actively participate right. need. So for instance with the library committee, with the parental involvement with the calendars, we really want serious input from people, right? And that is going to require time and effort. We have issues like this, the naming of the building and how are we going to do that in a meaningful, constructive way. I think there's also the issue that Jessica brought
011up um to me about the property, a potential property committee. We have this parcel of land sitting in downtown that we just have many different ideas across the community what to do with. we have many needs that we need to meet. So, but then I feel like, okay, well, now we're going to have 16 different committees and that seems to be kind of chaotic um and not maybe the most efficient way to get any of these issues solved. So, I would like to open that up for discussion to see if you all have a better idea of how we might um put something together that is not too ownorous on people but actually helps us solve these problems. I know that when we were working on >> Mike were Is it not on? >> No.
012>> When we were talking about bond issue, I know that we had some really good community meetings at the different schools and I thought that that was very productive. I don't know if you want to consider that instead of having some little ongoing committee that 10 or 12 people if you open it up and see the public's interested in attending like we would have for the bond discussions. I mean >> yeah I thought we had good turnout for them because I went to all of them. >> Mondo. So I guess in terms of the policy in which community members can currently rename facilities or suggest the dedication and naming of facilities, I'm okay with staff coming back with like an updated policy that puts some like circuit breakers into that process versus just go on
013the website and submit a name for consideration. Again, like manifesting that doesn't happen today, but if it did, then the board would be I guess obliged to consider it. So I'm fine with staff just bringing like an update to that process and maybe looking at what our neighbors are doing and if that's like committee based or application based or petition based I could care less just >> okay >> something more than submit a name online for consideration. >> Yeah. You all do have a policy on CW naming facilities and in that policy it is very scripted nomination for a committee. It does say each board member shall appoint one member to the nomination committee shall elect a chair during its first meeting. chair with the superintended. So, just to respond, President Hollyy, I guess what
014I'm referring to is on page 3567 of the SMCIC website, it says that a nomination shall be presented in writing on the form provided by the district and shall consist of a brief, whatever. So, if I were to like visit this website, there's like a Google form again that says that I just clicked on that allows me to submit for the renaming of a facility or building. And again, I just think that we might want to consider like a more robust process than that. I understand that I guess to take on that process there might be a committee there might be a chairperson but right now I can visit the ISD website and submit a name which I can but like it shouldn't just be me. >> So I can speak on this as well.
015So we when we named um the cafeteria at the high school and when we had the namings of the elementary school or Rodriguez Elementary, we had a naming committee and so the naming committee out of that they wanted a form that constantly live on the website. And so what we did was we worked with Hayes and we looked at Hayes and they I went to I went to Hayes's website right now. You can do the same thing. you can submit through the form. But that naming committee when that y'all had created back in what 2017, they wanted a form that lived on our website. And so I'm looking at the Google form right now. It's it's six it's there's six sections. So it's not just submit a name. There's multiple criterias that they have to
016follow to submit a name. Just wanted to give background information on that. >> So with that, are there additional changes? Well, I mean, >> I'm not sure. I'm I guess I'm not sure what it is that you >> Well, then so like I want us to take up >> I wanted to rename central office after the first Hispanic board president. So, can I just fill this out and then rather than waiting for this committee that's taken six months to impanel, I can just activate the old committee that named Rodriguez. >> Yeah. So on the policy it says the board has complete authority to name any district, campus, building or property. So it has to be board approved. >> But I think what you're saying is if you go ahead and submit the form then does
017the committee form and we go through the process and that's my understanding of what would happen in that case. I mean the board seems like it could supersede that but I think that'd be appropriate. >> And I want to clarify I do not want to do that but again I'm just trying to figure out which process are we using? Which process are using the process? confusing >> and then like I don't want my 2017 appointee to be on that committee anymore. So are we like updating that or >> we just break the link? I mean it if it makes people think that we do it that way and we don't do it that way. Like if they fill it out it goes I mean I don't know where it goes but not to us. It's
018been there since 2017. I don't think anybody's filled it out and Mr. Arerodondo spends more time on this website than anyone. But >> it's true. um what's the point, you know? >> Yeah, I'm fine with that also. >> So, just like an update of what that process is, right? >> So, let's do that. So, let's have staff go back, please, and consider this conversation and uh the request that came up six months ago, the process that is semifunctioning through the website or how it's supposed to function, what the policy says, and make a recommendation to us at the regular meeting on what you think the best course of action moving forward is. And also I think we do need to take up the request that came in 6 months ago. Like that needs to be
019either affirmed or denied in some way. So we need to move that. >> But that's that's AA. We're going to do that, right? Isn't that the one for the name the specific area or are you talking about a different request? >> I think that's what we're talking about. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Which I think this I think this item is about the process, not about actually making a decision on that naming. That was my understanding. And the policy does read, each board member shall appoint one member to the nomination committee. >> And I I'll also throw something in here. Back November of 24, we we y'all did vote on a on establishing this naming committee. And uh Trustee Kaine and Trustee Lopez were going to lead that committee from the board. and y'all were to
020bring a name. Each each individual was to bring a name to the committee and create this committee. So that this is not specific to the central office, but I think it was just more of a for all facilities in the in the district. >> So do we not need this then president take off? >> I think we can take it off. >> All right. But we do need names for that committee and the parental advisory committee. >> Right. So going back to that. So in terms of and with the hope of not having to set up 25 different committees, I like Miss Cantu's idea. I think that when we did the budget meeting earlier this year where we got the presentation from Mo Casey that that was well attended. I think it was well publicized.
021People who were interested had the opportunity to participate. Maybe we could have the district convene a series of meetings over the coming months on some of these issues and they would could be public open to the public. Board members are welcome to attend but also interested people can participate and if we have people that we know who specifically would be interested in being part of such a committee that would steer that then we could ask those people to participate more closely. It just gives greater transparency when when you involve the community. It's like we're really trying to bring people into to participate as opposed to well these are our friends that we need. You know, I mean that's the perception that I pick my friend, you pick your friend and that's who's taking care of
022business. I just feel the more community participation the more transparency comes across. I agree completely because and I also think it's easier ask to have someone come to a meeting on an issue they're interested in than to serve on a committee which might mean multiple meetings and sometimes the committees have a look like you know >> we're still controlling the vote and I think we're we're really the committee right but if we can get feedback on key issues that helps me make decisions so I like that idea. Okay. So, >> I agree. I agree. I think that's the best way to try to pull these individuals instead of just kind of asking somebody who says yes out of an obligation and not really completely interested in being there and doing that. >> I'm fine with
023that as well. I do just want to check. I know this parental advisory committee is one mandated and I don't know if we have a timeline in which we have to create that committee. That would be the only one. >> I don't know if we have an answer right now to that. Well, we formed we we took action last month. It's just nobody got or you did. I didn't I'll confess get a name to Miss Hollyy, >> but I did admit remember it was agenda prep at about 10 this morning. So, um maybe I'm not on top of it, but I will do that this week. President Holly. >> Okay. So, we have the one committee in the works that we are required to have. Um, then I still think it would be helpful for
024that parental advisment committee to hear from the community. If we're going to do this, then having a series of meetings on different topics. I think one of them that would be important for the parental advisement committee to hear about is the calendar which includes the academic calendar, board meeting calendar, etc. So we can I think go ahead and form that committee and maybe make that first meeting with that committee and make it a public hearing at the same time so we can sort of kick that off at the same point. >> Yes. on on the issues of parental involvement, which I think would include the academic calendar, the board schedule, and I think a brief on the library policies. Those seem to be the three outstanding ones at the moment. >> Yes. >> And then
025maybe we can look toward having a subsequent meeting about the uh former central office property. I think we certainly have community members who are invested in that and would like to hear more about what options are available to us, what we can and can't do as a district, how we might go about that, putting it out there that we are open to suggestions and ideas. Um, so those are the ones I have so far. Mr. Arondo, >> I just had a quick question on the parental involvement committee. I know that that is obviously in response to like statemandated requirements of input. Do we know what at least hypothetically what that meeting frequency might be like. I haven't asked anybody yet, but as I text people, I know their first response is going to be. >>
026Do we have a policy direction from the state on that on timeline what was required >> for the library materials? Yes, we do. That's the one that was signed in August. So, I can reshare that with you. >> Okay. >> You all, >> I think we just all need to be reminded of what exactly it entails. So that so that's library materials but like the schoolboard meeting calendar he's talking academic calendar >> are they two different ones >> the library advisory council is a separate one >> okay so the parent too many committ can it be the same >> is there like a prohibition on that can we just make like one committee that oversees the library review process and parental engagement because then I could probably get like one good person when I told
027them, hey, you're going to run the schools outside of me. Um, but I don't know if that's possible or not or like legally applicable. >> So, the library council, we are technically not required to have one unless it is something that you all as a board feel like we need to have. If we have at least 50 individuals who have requested it, we must have one. Okay? But if we have not had 50 individuals who have said that they're interested in one, it is not something that we are required by the state to have. So just please keep that in mind. >> And thus far, we have not had any any individuals reach out to us. Yeah. Knock on wood, please. Requesting that we have that particular council. So that's something to also keep in
028mind as you all are making a decision. >> Miss Holly. >> Yes. So, I think it'd be worthwhile, again, maybe famous last words, but to have one with folks that at least the board has vetted or that have applied to serve because I think the people who showed up at our last meeting for full transparency, like they're going to come back in some capacity. At least I think so. At least I'm mentally prepared for that. >> And I'd rather be able to say as like a board member, we have a committee. It's made up of parents whose kids are in the schools. Like the books are reviewed by people whose children have access to them, not somebody from Sigin or far west Texas who has no business in San Marcus ISD. And in that way,
029it empowers me as a policy maker and even staff to say like the books we have in our schools have been reviewed by parents whose children are currently enrolled, right? So what's theirs is there. Our parents are okay with it. We're moving on. Um, but I guess circling back to like the bigger committee for parental engagement and even the library materials. I don't know if there's like a conversation to be had at like a later meeting of establishing what this committee looks like and what their charge is going to be because if I can just appoint one committee and try and find, you know, one or two prospective candidates to serve to represent me as an atlarge trustee on that committee who can make the time commitment. I think I can sell that to a
030neighbor as in like this is going to be worthwhile. It's you're going to review some pretty impactful robust things. This isn't just should school boards meet at at 6 pm or noon at lunch, right? It's library materials, academic calendar, stuff like that. But I don't even know what their charge would be. So again, as I text somebody, I'm like, it could be these things. I don't know. We're kind of talking about it, but I guess can we flush that out more or can staff tell us like what all we can bake into this one committee? And maybe it's not just like one per trustee. Maybe it's two representatives per trustee if we're going to give them like nine things to weigh in on, right? I don't know. I'm just thinking out loud. >> Yeah, I'm
031fine with having one committee. I do think that it would be good to have the that committee first meet with the board at a public forum so that we can all hear from other and give other voices, you know, an opportunity to weigh in and then the committee would sort of pick up the work and move forward. I think it just goes for this year, right? I think we want to put an end point on it at least for now so that it is most effective. Um, I am happy to ask the staff for other suggestions. I also don't want to, you know, kick this too far down the road so that the committee's first meeting in February and doesn't really have as much of an opportunity to give us feedback early that we can
032act on. So, um, if there are specific ideas, yeah, >> maybe we can just broaden this agenda item because we can't act today anyway. We broaden this agenda item. we now know what people are initially thinking and then we can have a little more time to be to make a decision. >> That's fine with me. And that gives staff an opportunity to go back and come back to us at the meeting with a plan and uh points of action. >> Yes. >> Can I say something? >> Yes. >> I think y'all need to read what I sent y'all this summer. The spreadsheet that I sent that has everything that's required. Um, that requires board action first before we because I I I really wasn't understanding what y'all were trying to do. But I did send
033y'all information with all the laws passed and what is going to require board policy, board action, and what doesn't require board action. And then we can then you can guide us with the committees and narrow down like the city property. You gave us board direction to work with the county and the city and now we want to form a committee to hear about what we want to do with the property. Well, if we're going to work with the city and the county to relieve us of that property, then let them deal with the community at a later point. Why bring another meeting in to have people tell us not to sell the property? You know, they don't want us to sell the property. So, read the spreadsheet I sent first because there's so much in
034there and then and then we can formulate a plan from there and then let me go get off camera. President, that brought up something. I never remember this board directing the administration to work with the city and council, the city and county to get to move that property. I thought we turned down the offer >> and we had no other offer and we took no action. If there's ongoing communication, I think that should stop until there's an offer and this board has made a decision. We don't need negotiations staff to staff. >> Yeah. I don't think that there's negotiation going on. >> Well, there is communication. >> My understanding was that they that the city and county wanted to have a look at the property, but that was the extent of it. >> There so
035to clarify there there has been some communication between us and the city and county. Um they are uh interested very interested in submitting a bid. They have asked to survey the land just to walk the land and um they have been sending us a few other bits of information, historical information on the property >> and u my assumption is that's to better get a better understanding of it. Um their intention is to to submit a bid. So we have um we have been communicating with them. I just want to make sure that that's clear. >> But we're not negotiating with them. >> There is no negotiation. There's no discussion of of cost or price or bid. Um, but they have been asking for some information in in preparation for submitting a bid. >> It's my
036position that until that property they're going to have a due diligence period when the if they make an offer that this board accepts, they'll have a due diligence period where they can do their inspections and do whatever they need. But right now, they they haven't there's no contract. So, I don't think we should be agreeing to anything. Um, I mean, walk across it. I can't I mean, I guess if they asked that, nothing to stop them. there's no fence. Um, but like no phase one environmental, none of that stuff until it's under contract. >> And just to underline Mr. Mclofflin's comment, make a bid like that should be what's communicated in my opinion from our staff to them, right? Anything, let me tell you a story about the site and what used to be there,
037like great, right? But until there's a bid that we can consider, I think everyone's just kind of running around in circles. And I put that on the city of San Marcos's staff. Um, and I'm just going to say the quiet thing out loud. Them wanting to take core samples or what I've heard in the community. They're concerned about the dry cleaning site adjacent to our property. Great. Let's talk about that after you've submitted a bid in that due diligence phase. But until then, without a bid, it's all hypothetical, right? So like put up and then we'll have that conversation. So anyway, >> okay. I can um confirm with Dr. Cardona and certainly um kind of cease any any communication and just let them know if um when they're interested and ready to submit a bid
038to submit a bid and then we can go through through that process. All right. Thank you. >> Okay. So we will leave the item we will expand the item to to continue this conversation with action and looking for staff recommendation on what we are obliged to do when we are obliged to do that how we are obliged to do it and then some recommendation on how we can do that in a way that most meaningful meaningfully solicits uh useful information from the public. Yes. >> Great. Let's move forward. Um okay. Academics consider approval of turnaround plan for buoy. discussed that and I'm assuming we'll have further information about that in the board book. >> Yes. >> Great. Um, close session is I think spelled out there. If there are questions about that, I think please
039address those to Dr. Cardona. Yes. >> I just would like to flip those items A and B because I'm going to have to abstain from what's currently 9A, but I'd like to be a part of the deliberation on safety and security. >> Say that again. I am going to have to abstain from what's currently identified as 9A. So if we could flip A and B to make security first. Um then I would be able to participate. Okay. >> Um in the security and not um >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. >> We can do that. >> Miss Hollyy. >> Yes. >> I had a question on 9A. Um, so I know in theory what this item is about, but it is really just in theory and what I've heard from either fellow board members or
040anecdotally out in the community. Is there some type of like legal summary of all the things that have been said about this one topic that board members can get before this upcoming board meeting? I don't know. Um, Dr. Cardona, >> yes, you've been provided that before. >> Is there new information or I I guess what concerns me, Dr. Cardona, is I've heard additional stories that are outside of what has already been provided by legal counsel. And I know like individually I'm not allowed to take that into consideration, but as a board member I am like very concerned about the things that I've heard outside of what legal counsel has provided. So like how do I square that circle as like a board member as we continue to have these conversations? And so I don't know
041as as we are agendaized for this like I I want to share that with you now in advance of that meeting because again I'm just like I I take what legal counsel has provided and then like what anecdotally has been told to me on like a Saturday at HB and I'm like these these don't match and that is very concerning to me and yeah I can like stiff arm people and be like don't talk to me But that information has still been provided, right? So again, as we kind of move forward with with this topic and conversation, I'm I just like I don't know, we can I can exercise this demon more at our regular meeting, but just want to give you a heads up tonight. >> I mean, I can we can provide you
042what's been provided to you by evidence. I cannot get you off social media or at HB and listening to anecdotal evidence. I mean, we cannot stop litigants from creating stories outside of what the story is, but I mean, you have all the legal information um available to you. And then if you want to talk to me individually, I can tell you about the conversations I've had with the TASBY lawyers. We've had a phone call before I left and uh stuff, but I mean, we can't control litigance and what they put out on social media. I'd encourage you to get off of it, but that's it. if only. But >> I think I mean the board received a packet from legal. I think that the board could certainly receive the case history if that would be
043if that's something that people would feel it's important to consider in this. I don't know. I'm not a lawyer, but >> Well, I guess what confuses me or what I'm concerned about is there are witnesses who were provided an opportunity to speak and they chose not to or like there's more information. I guess can I request in executive session we discussed hiring a third party investigator again? >> Sure. >> Okay. Then that'll that that'll satisfy until Monday's meeting. So we'll add that as item I think that will have to be item A and then B will be the security and then C All right. Does anybody have anything else to add? If not, then can I call for a motion to adjurnn? >> Second. All in favor, please raise your hand. Uh before everybody adjourns,
044this isn't an agenda item, but I do think we need to remember that we need to uh get a legislative update. If you didn't do it this summer, uh, uh, Alicia sent out a memo that had one of them that's going to be given, I think, by region 13 here in San Marcus in November. >> No, there's so >> Okay. And also, we do need to conduct a team of eight training um before we get too far into the school year. So, I don't know if we want to try to do that in November, December, January, what people's schedules look like. If people have topics that they want to put on that team of eight, I'm open to suggestions, ideas, >> dates. >> Yeah. >> Would you have in mind the Saturday? >> I think
045a Saturday would be best. >> This Saturday? No, a Saturday. trying to get it before we get too far into close to holidays. >> Saturday is >> I cannot do the 25th, but I can do the 8th. >> Uhhuh. >> I'd have to look at my calendar. We just have a long agenda. >> Um, it's at noon, so that would take up >> people's afternoons. >> The people that have to work have to work. >> Um, we could schedule it on another Monday night. I'm okay with that. I'm open to whatever the board would like to do. >> I guess if people are averse to have on Saturday, but I'll meet on Saturday as long as it's not I'm not set on Saturday. I just make one Saturday. >> I can't hear anything you guys
046are saying. >> Use your mic. >> Sorry. >> We're trying to figure out a good date and we're discussing right now whether or not to do it on a Monday night or on a Saturday morning. Do you have a preference? >> Um, I'm fine with Saturday mornings. I feel like Monday evenings unfortunately have been going a little long and I don't want to tack anything on to that personally, but I'll be open to whatever. >> I'm okay with a Saturday. >> Um, can Okay, so how about everybody look at your calendars for November 8th and November 15th? >> I cannot I cannot do the 15th. >> Cannot do the 15th. Okay. So, how about let's look at why don't you get back to me and let me know if you would prefer to do Saturday,
047November 8th or Monday, November 10th in the evening. >> 8 or 10. >> Yeah. >> And we'll get back to you. >> Yeah. And if you have a topic that you're interested in, please let me know. Otherwise, I think that the default would be going back through our core commitments and reviewing those because we haven't done that in a while. We have not done that with this body. Yeah, we need to >> so commitment >> and if you have a preference on any presenters past or people that you particularly liked um or anybody new that you think would be great. I'm open to all of those suggestions, but we do need to get moving on that at least this week or so if we're going to try to do this in November. >> I'm fine
048with either of those dates. >> Okay. >> I'm for sure on November 8th. >> All right, everybody let me know ACP. >> I'll get back to you with this. I'm starting a new >> medical program >> on the 8th. >> I'll text you. >> Okay. >> So, Trusty Kane's child, >> their last baseball game is on that Saturday. I'm fine meeting around that. I don't know if other people with children have commitments on that Saturday. I'm happy to meet around that if you already have something going on that day. So if it's like meeting later in the like an afternoon thing is I guess what I'm suggesting or like we come in at lunchtime again I'm I'm flexible >> that time >> I don't in Austin >> it's like 11. >> No we'll never be
049back by 11. >> Just kidding. >> Um >> this is important. >> All right. How about one other idea just to give us because we're seeming. How about we go to December 6th? >> No, we're talking about a 9 to 12. I'll be out of town. >> You're out of town. >> How long do we have to meet? >> Three hours. >> Um, there will be other baseball games so it's okay. Well, if we met at from 2:00 to 5 on the 8th. >> No, I don't. >> No, >> I'm fine with like noon to 3. I can even work on making sure we have some food. >> Think we'll get it over with in the morning. >> All right. Um, last ditch. Here we go. I love y'all, but we're not meeting on my
050birthday. Sorry. Um, >> I just want the record to reflect we have met on my birthday before, but >> I know you're special, though. >> I do consider y'all a present in my life. So, >> okay, here's what I'm going to say. I think December 13th. How about that? >> Getting close. >> The morning of December 13th, 9:00 a.m. >> I know we're getting close to the holidays, but there's still time there that we can give staff direction. They can work on it in January. Um, >> yeah, I'm kind of I can't do that. I'm sorry. >> Okay, >> the Saturdays on December are brutal. Like I don't >> There's always something going on in the weekend. >> Probably do the sixth, but >> that Okay, >> why was November 1st bad? I can't do
051November 1st. >> Okay. >> Sorry. Um >> it's eight birthday. My bad. >> And this is only us and soup, right? >> Yeah, it's just eight of us. >> Okay. Then I think we're back to November Monday, November 10th. I know it's not ideal in the evening, but I don't see another date before the holidays. >> Let me look. I I would >> Saturdays are better. >> I just don't think there's any Saturday that's going to work. >> Okay. >> Thanksgiving. >> Sandra, you preferred Saturday to Monday. >> Why? So, why is the ETH not with an adjusted time not working? It seems like everybody was kind of immunable to that or am I missing something? >> I think Clen is feeling that the getting in too late in the afternoon is not ideal. That
052we need to get it done in the morning and the morning's not really working. I can do November 8th in the afternoon. >> Okay. >> That's okay. >> You're talking the morning of the 8th. >> The afternoon of the 8th. >> Which would be 12 to 3. >> I'm fine with the afternoon of the ETH. >> I mean, the other thing is it, you know, we've done it before in January. It's not the end of the world if we wait, especially if the topic is the core commitments. Then by January we need to start re focusing on our budget program >> about the budget. >> I'm cool with January then. But versus core commitments I guess in relation to the budget maybe as we start budget season. I'd be interested in that. >> Okay. >>
053Budget priorities. >> The 10th. >> Yeah. January 10th. You're going to do core commitments and start also discussing budget the budget. >> I can do January 10th. Are we doing what? >> Not >> 9 to >> January 10th 9:00 a.m. >> All right. We will start with >> Okay, Sandra. >> I think so. I don't have anything on the calendar just yet. >> Excellent. Um I will ask I'll work with Miss Elise on identifying a facilitator for that. will plan on starting with the core commitments and especially thinking about how the core core commitments >> will lead into our budget conversations. >> Right. >> All right. Thank you everybody. Have a good afternoon.