001Audio check. One, two. Good afternoon everybody. Welcome to this special call meeting of the San Marcus CISD Board of Trustees. Today is Tuesday, September 2nd, 2025. It is 12:00 noon and we are meeting in our new central offices. Um I will declare that we have a quorum. We have five pe five people on person and two trustees joining us on Zoom. Um, I don't think anybody has signed up to speak in public forum. We'll move directly into the agenda preparation for the regular September 15th meeting. Dr. Cardona. >> All right, Madame President, members of the board, good afternoon. Um, we will have a superintendence report. Uh, we'll try and get that finalized as soon as possible, but we'll have some student recognitions. Uh under item five reports and information items, uh we will have our
002academic reports, we will have a suicide prevention month. I believe it's a probably a declaration resolution. We did it last year at this time. >> Yeah, I I'll talk to um Adriana. >> It's a resolution >> resolution >> for the board to to read. Um item six, approval of consent agenda items. A approval of the minutes of the regular schedule board meeting on August 18th, and special board meeting on September 2nd, 2025. Item 6B, consider approval of budget amendments. >> We'll have one bud budget amendment and that's for the um for our city or the cheerleading uniforms that we need to purchase. It's about $10,000. Item seven, items for action. Item 7B, discussion and action to accept, reject, or modify the board's designate recommendation in a matter of San Marcus CISD versus Anthony Williams pursuant
003to section 21.207B1 of the Texas Education Code. Item C, discussion, possible action to renew, nonrenew or renew the term employment of contract of Anthony Williams. I skip the page. Yeah. >> Oh, there you go. There's a whole page on this. Item A. I was wondering fast. Who's going to be hopping along there? Sorry. It's Labor Day weekend. Uh, item A, board of trustees. Item A1, consideration and possible approval of rescending the previously approved 2025 2026 board meeting calendar. >> Uh item A2, consider approval of the amended 2025 20 >> use your mic >> on that item. Uh what I'd like to see, I understand eventually we're going to change this calendar, but as I read the statute, we form a committee. They make a recommendation. Among those recommendations is maybe I don't know, they haven't
004met yet. They'd say these meetings should be at night. And then we'd say, "Yeah, we're going to accept your recommendations." But but I don't see the committee on the agenda. Is it separate? So, my position is I'm just going to keep I mean, my colleagues may at some point disagree with me, but tableabling this until we have the committee because right now I'm so excited to be here. I'm going to grab a sandwich on the way to work and I'm going to be home tonight. So, and I'm not I'm breaking no law. So, >> we can change the agenda however y'all want. We can just simply consolidate those two. >> Yeah. But I just think eventually we've got to we the board have to form a committee to comply because it's that's not the only
005requirement of the parental engagement from the legisl from the legislation, right? One of them is boards should meet outside of normal business hours, but there's other things too. And so I think we should in my view and I'll I'll um I think we should form the committee and then they should move with all due diligence to get us a recommendation and when we have that recommendation if it includes the idea of moving our meetings then we could do it you know in November, December, whenever. I just think this is putting the cart ahead of the horse. >> Mr. >> uh thank you madam president. I agree with Trusty Mclofflin. Is there a way instead that we can have A1 and A2 be discussion and possible action regarding this citizen engagement committee and maybe this gives
006my colleagues and I enough time to bring a name or two of engaged citizens who want to figure that out. >> Yeah, I think that would be great. Anybody I think that we would need to have both citizens and board members serve on said committee. So I would like also to ask for people to be thinking about volunteering for that assignment, but I think that we can definitely make that agenda item appoint the committee. >> I think Trusty Kane is uniquely positioned to serve in that. >> Thanks. >> All right, moving on. >> All right, so we'll consolidate one and two and rename it. >> Yep, >> we'll get that to you. Item A3, discussion to appoint a member of the board to serve on the safety committee together with the board president. currently that's
007Miss Kantu and I think it's Miss Kantu and you resolved. >> Yeah, it had been um Miss Kantu as president and me as vice president. We can continue with that. We can change it. I'm just wanted to bring it to the board to discuss. >> I would recommend that they Oh, I'm sorry. >> That's okay. You can go first. >> I would recommend that. >> Can you please use your mic? We can't hear you. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> You turned it on. Okay. I would recommend that we contact Glenn and and get her opinion since it was she's on the committee as previously. >> Yeah, that's why I just wanted to bring it back for discussion. >> Well, that's fine. >> We'll do that. Hopefully, she can be here by >> She's on Zoom.
008>> I know she's on Zoom. I'm I'm just being present. So, >> okay, Miguel, >> I was just going to say I'm familiar with the work of the committee because of my regular communications with trustee can too. Um, but in that discussion, if we can if y'all can report out like what y'all's meeting frequency is, why you're meeting, what is the safety committee, just so >> Yeah. >> everyone public included knows kind of what that is. >> All right. Item A4, >> Mr. Cleveland can plan to update us, give us an overview. Thank you. >> Item A4, consider resolution nominating candidates to the board of directors of Cwell County Appraisal District. Item A5, consider resolution nominating candidates to the board of directors of Guadalupe County Appraisal District. And A6, consider resolution nominating candidates to the
009board of directors of the Hayes County Appraisal District. I think historically y'all give the votes for Guadalupe and for Guadalupe and Caldwell because we don't have enough votes. And then >> item eight, academics. Item 8A, consider approval of grading guidelines. In advance of this being considered by the board at the meeting, it would be helpful if I could get a grade distribution among the ECHS classes um like grades awarded and frequency like on a I mean I can chart it if I have the data as compared to AP uh grade distributions at the high school because I think this is the key point on this grading schedule is we're really inflating those ECH grades and making our are curved flatter which creates a lot of pressure on the kids. Um, and but maybe that's not
010true. Maybe these grades are all over the map and I've got a but I don't really know unless I see it. >> I don't So if you're putting a board request and we have 20 days to do the board request, but you're asking for it for this. >> That's okay. You can pull it from the agenda if you want. I just can't consider it until I know that information. And I can fill out the form if you'd prefer. I just I'm not I'm not going to be able to make a decision because right now it says we're going to call an ECHS a 90 and give it 10 points. So it has the effect of being a 100. Well, that gives me a lot of pause because I when I went when I took some
011community class courses and 81 was pretty easy to get, but when I took AP courses at the high school, 100 or a 90 plus a bump took a lot of work. And so I think that it was my anecdotal personal understanding that this is going to create a very very flat curve where and and I don't think that's good for kids. So, but I don't want to rely on my anecdotal understanding. So, I get the data. If it's going to take longer than that, then I mean I guess we can just move this. >> I think too in the past we've talked about this because this issue has been ongoing and the last time we talked about this, there were no guidelines from the state, right? So everybody is sort of in the same boat.
012And we've also at one point talked about potentially adding additional weight for students who took the AP exam because right now you can take the AP class and but then there's no I mean the incentive to take the AP exam right is because of how it helps you after high school but there's no weight given to that which is obviously a significant um assignment to do to undertake. So, so I think I I'm open to having a broader discussion. I understand what Mr. Mclofflin's saying and I agree that would be helpful to look at. >> So, just so that I'm clear on that, you want to see a breakdown of the how the grade distribution for AP and for ECHs. >> Correct. >> Okay. to see the difference in the two like frequency like I
013don't want names but like in I would like to be able to from what you give me compare um this ECS um American history with our high school a push class and see what the distribution of grades is in the ECS coastal bin American history class. This is just one example. they got more than history, but um and then I could look at that as compared to the AP US history and determine if giving the ECS this extra 9point bump is fair and makes sense. >> Okay. And I think we need to look at the same data from the first cohort of students who were concurrently enrolled at Texas State last year because I think that is also going to play into >> how it works >> at the end of the I guess some
014I'm trying to figure out what's the end goal. I I heard you say that whether they get the nine points, but both kids get the nine points right now. And to be ECHS or concurrent enrollment, you have to be TSI ready before you start. >> Correct. So, you have to be considered college ready before you start as opposed to AP. You take the course and you may or may not take the the class. And then are we going to judge it on the number of kids that get a three or higher or like I don't understand what the end goal is. >> No. Well, so right now in the top 15% competing for top 10% in our class rank, which is almost the only place this matters, our curve is incredibly flat. you could make
015two points lower in one class and move seven or eight places which create and and by the ECHS getting the additional bump. Yeah, you're right. They both get 10 points but under this grading policy if you get an 81 it's treated you essentially get a 19 point bump because we treat it like it's on the high end of the B scale and then add the 10 points. So, they're getting more of a bump. And our ECH kids, whether they pass the TSI or not, are, you know, I'm going to paint with a broad brush. It was generally designed as students or designed for students that are in the second trough of academic excellence at that point. If they're in the top piece, you know, if they're looking at going to Yale or places that aren't
016going to take coastal thin credits, they're not going to take them. They're going to stay with the AP credit. Um, but I noticed at graduation we had a lot of ECHS heavy kids, very high in our top 10%. And so I before I endorse a policy that kind of cements that extra bump, I I want to see how it compares grade-wise. So just for time being, we will still we have midterm progress reports going out next week. So, we'll still have to use last year's grading guidelines for the purpose of that. Just just so that you all know that. >> Okay. Okay. >> Whatever we need to do. But yeah, I want to see last year's like >> Okay. >> That that grade piece. >> All right. Item one question. >> Did I hallucinate, Madam
017Chair? I thought this was supposed to be like one of the policies that we review as like a part of the board team of eight thing. Was it not? Or did we talk about that at last agenda prep or last meeting? I can't remember. I'm trying to >> I wasn't at agenda prep last month, so if it was brought up, it wasn't really to me. But we have talked about it in the past, but we don't really have a set team of eight. >> Okay. >> And we have not yet set a team of eight for this year. >> Well, the only reason why I ask is I'm fine taking this item up currently with information that I have. I'm fine moving forward with the grading guideline as is, but I respect Mr. Mclofflin's concerns
018or questions. And I don't know if it's better to do within a board meeting or like a a workshop or something, but I'm cool with whatever, I guess, is my point. I just didn't know if this was on the rotation of these like policies that we review quarterly or monthly or whatever that looks like. So, >> I think it's on the policy we review annually, which is why it's coming up now. Okay. >> But maybe we need to move it up earlier, >> maybe to June or something, >> right? It was originally scheduled for May. >> Keep it at May. >> Item eight B, consider approval of 2025 2026 student code of conduct. Item nine, operations. Item 9A, consider and possible action to accept the SMCISD administration building project. That's closed. Yes. Is there anything
019in particular that y'all want to see? There's no presentation that's planned, but I'll leave it open. I can put something together. We're just like all construction projects, once they're finalized, we bring it to the board for approval. >> Mr. >> Uh, thank you, Miss Hollyy. Um, Mr. Sandival, I know that there are some like signage delays. Can you just give us not today right now the second but at our monthly meeting kind of what outstanding items we're waiting from third party vendors or or what that anticipation anticipated timeline looks like to receive those materials. And second, and this is just anecdotal, um I know that we've had some issues with the plumbing and ACE and HVAC in this system. You know, one room is incredibly cold, one is incredibly hot. I know that that is
020also just related to like new construction dynamics as you iron out those kinks, but can you explain kind of what those one-off issues are and and what it looks like? Or even with the plumbing, I know that there have been some issues where some bathrooms on on the staff side of the facility haven't been available. You have to watch what what you flush. And if that's on within 6 months of being in this building, I'm afraid what this looks like in the next 20 years, right? Cuz this is going to have to be like a 100red-year facility for the ISD. So I I want to make sure that we're on the trajectory to have it that long. Okay. >> So I'll I'll provide that at the board meeting. >> Cool. >> Is that >> Thank
021you. >> I think it would be helpful for the public to have just a presentation that has some pictures of what the building looks like. I know we've all seen all the different parts of it, but to show the the school fuel space and some office spaces and the the more public areas just so folks can see what we've done here. >> Item 9B, consider adoption of the resolution to identify hazardous conditions within 2 miles of a school campus. >> I'm going to have a question for staff on this. um you know as to what steps we've taken with any extremely hazardous conditions we've identified and did we communicate that to the city if it's in the city limits or ask for help from our governmental partners to make hazardous conditions less so especially on
022a walk commute like I'm looking right at 123 between um >> the elementary and the stadium like we've got to get some someone's going to die over there someone already has it hadn't been kids yet, but the the just sole control being the light and the speed at which people cross there and the kids on foot scares me. So, that type of thing, that's that's the one I notice all the time. But, have we noticed any others? And have we sought help from the county or city with those? I know I know Anthony Shields, the director of transportation, is uh engaged with the city quite often and is actually sitting on a committee uh for um transportation within within the city, but I'll ask him to to comment on that when he does the presentation
023on this. >> That'd be great. >> Mr. Adam, >> uh thank you, Miss Hollyy. I just want to echo Mr. Mclofflin's concerns. But in addition to that, I've like played this game before of getting the city to like build sidewalks in a neighborhood and then it like invalidates the whole neighborhood from transportation funding to like a middle school or like a high school campus because like theoretically you could walk a sidewalk to the high school, right? So, I'm just trying to understand the dynamics at play with the state transportation reimbursement funds when we make a neighborhood walkable to like one nearby school, but then it like invalidates transportation funding for like all campuses from that neighborhood because I still after 10 years don't understand why or how the system works like that, but I know
024that it does. So, if Mr. Mr. Shields can be here to answer those questions and explain that pendulum of like safety and funding. That would be great. All right. Item 10, close session and authorized by sections 551.071 551.074 of the Texas Government Code. Item 10A, deliberation regarding the possible sale of the surface only of the real property and any improvements including consideration and possible action regarding the bid received for the purchase of property and all improvements described as follows. lots 2 3 4 5 6 and 7 approximately 2.5142 acres or 109,516 square ft being part of block 3 Dan McKe 2 addition located at 501 South LBJ San Marcus Hayes County Texas >> I think we covered these >> I think yeah we skipped ahead Mr. So, I have questions or requests regarding the close
025session items uh regarding the sale of the South OBJ property. Um I think first and foremost, there was nothing in executive session that I guess information that was provided that I think was like pertinent that needed to be in executive session. the amount being offered by the potential buyer. I think it's very public of who that is and and what they want to do with the site. So, I guess my request is can we have can we ask if they're willing to make that presentation or ask in September in open session and I would hope that they would be willing to do that. Second to that, I know that there was a lot of citizen input. I got emails, text messages from the public about this potential offer from Hayes County in the city of
026San Marcos. I haven't seen any material or information regarding that. So, I don't know if that's Mr. Alvarez can say. You know, we've gotten emails, the board has gotten requests to delay because the city is working on something or the county is finding money, but if we could have some type of like formal update that speaks to that versus me just getting text messages from neighbors, that that would be great. And if the information is you haven't received a formal offer, there is no amount being offered by the city and county, I would like that to be presented to us in open session as well. So, I I do believe this process needs to be transparent. Again, I don't think there's anything like nefarious or any type of ne negotiating ability by having the person
027who's made a public offer on the site who has said what the amount is that they're offering present that in open session. So, that's my ask when we take this up in September. >> That makes sense to me. >> Yep. >> And it's my understanding that they do have a present. What is there a presentation that goes with their offer or can we see what the bid response was or what is that? >> They uh from the last board meeting they had the letter that they presented along with um a verbal presentation. We have since asked for any updates um any type of potential rendering that this may look like. They said they have something in place. Um I have not physically received it yet but they know um the deadlines of our our board
028meeting and documents needed. So, I I fully anticipate on that happening and I believe they are scheduled to come present at the board meeting um as well. I'll make sure and reach out to their their realtor and um ensure that. >> Thank you, sir. >> I mean, I think that if we're going to have the meeting and open, then the materials should all be in the board book. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Be clear. >> Okay. I think that we covered the uh the two either items B or C and D earlier. We can skip ahead unless your questions on that. >> I'd like to go back really quickly. Um I would like to request and maybe I need to submit this separately. Um for we have two pieces of property currently for sale. Um I
029would like to hear about other options besides fully selling the property. Do we do we have any information about what like ground lease looks like? What other options we have available to us with those properties? I don't need that by this next board meeting, but I do think it's important for us to consider other options that would allow us to have continual income from these properties instead of selling them outright. [Music] >> I have a followup on that. >> Yep. When we posted, was it just for like when y'all posted in the newspaper and we put out an RFP? Arguably, was it just for the sale of the property or could anyone have submitted something that said, "I want to build a parking lot here, I want to rent it," or was it just standalone
030purchase of land? Yeah, the the bids that we put out were for both properties, a property on LBJ and South Subtles, um to be recurring and uh visited at each board meeting if there was a bid. It was only for the sale of the property. Um not really any other discussion about uh use other use or reasonzoning or anything of that nature. >> So, I'll be the second for Trusty Kaine. If I don't know if that's like a one cruise question or what a RFP would look like for then long-term lease, whatever that looks. Yeah. Other than sale, I guess. >> Okay. Absolutely. >> Okay. Then I think we have one other item that we need to add. >> Go ahead. >> I thought you were talking about this item. >> Are you still asking
031about the the property? No, I'm going to move on unless you have something. >> I have something on the Williams the >> uh I I guess I'm unclear what what B is. Um consideration of the recommendation and hearing record at the designate like are we just like to read that and we got all those materials some time ago. We're just supposed to read that and be ready to discuss it. Is that what C is asking of me? >> I I think he will present his 10minute closing to you all. Oh, like we've got all the evidence now you're going to put it. Okay. >> From my understanding, his he's appealing the hearing his final plea. >> I see. So, it's going to look just kind of like a grievance where we're going to hear from
032both sides and then >> uh we don't administration doesn't cuz >> Okay. >> It's been given to you all. So, >> okay. Thank you for the clarification. >> Some one told us we're supposed to do. >> Okay. And then I don't think we have any school safety items other than we're just in locked grounds right now, but nothing nothing's taking place. >> Okay. And then we need to we just found out today from Mr. Cruz that we need to add another item to our items for action. Do you want to explain this one? So, we found out today from Juan Cruz that under Senate Bill 12, we have to within 30 days a school starting submit policy that the board has to consider, adopt and approve. So, we're getting all that information together. Um, I'll
033just read what it says. New section added by Senate Bill 12. A school district or open enrollment charter school shall adopt a policy and procedure for the appropriate discipline, including termination of a district or school employee or contractor who intentionally or knowingly engages in or assigns to another person an act prohibited by this section. The district or school shall provide a physical and electronic copy of the policy and procedures to each district or school employee or contractor. And it's Texas Education Code section 28.0022 certain instructional requirements and prohibitions. And under section 39.0 O8 certification of compliance with certain laws required. Item A, not later than September 30th of each year, the superintendent of a school district or open enrollment open enrollment charter school shall certify to the agency that the district or school is in
034compliance with this section and sections 11.05 and 28.02. And then it says, "The certification required by subsection must be approved by a majority vote of the board of trustees of the school district or the governing body of the open enrollment charter school at a public meeting that includes an opportunity for public testimony for which notice was posted on the district or school's internet website at least 7 days before the date on which the meeting is held." And so typically policies like these that are statemandated come to usually from TEA with here's the version that you need to adopt whether you like it or not. And um but we have we received that from TA. TAZ well TASBY is usually sends us and they're staying. >> It says um the end of October we'll get update
035126 which will have all of these updates but our email today from U Mr. Cruz is we need to bring this language to you all. >> And so what's the penalty if we don't have it passed by September 30th? cuz I'm concerned that if we preemptively pass something that then is in contradiction to whatever we get from TASBY at the end of October, are we going to be penalized twice? Like, are we going to be in violation? It just seems this is a little against cart before the horse, right? >> No, we we don't know. I think it's like the school finance call you sat in on. They're all over the place right now. Literally going all over the place. And I mean I don't I'm not going to speak for Juan, but if you
036make a motion to >> I was in a meeting with with Juan this morning and I did ask the question, can we delay appro having you all approve this and that was one of the things he did say that this did need to be approved by September 30th. But if that's something that you of course want to reach out to him, but I did ask because there was >> I mean there's no policy yet to approve to be in compliance with the handcraft one. >> Can't you just say we're going to >> Can't you make a motion just to wait until October 30th and >> wait for guidance from >> Can we appoint a committee to develop a law? >> I mean, I'd also be hesitant to say I want to adopt TEA's draft policy
037language as No, I know. I'm just saying like my knee-jerk reaction be like >> let's vote to say we're going to wait till tea says what to do. But then I'm also I don't trust TEA to give me a policy that I'd individually support. But if we could do a committee with the intent of drafting a policy, so if anyone calls us into the principal's office, we can say like, "Hey, we're working on something." I'm cool with that, too. >> I mean, this certainly doesn't seem like something that we should overnight rush. >> It's very serious and needs to be considered. It's not also something that I would trust to be like AI, write me a policy on how to be in compliance with this, right? I think it it has to be thoughtful. Um,
038and it's a short time period to try to get that done. So, I'm happy to to put it on the agenda that we're going to point a committee for the discussion and review and development of some the policy that we need to be in compliance if everybody >> happy with that. >> Agree that we need Hello. >> Yes. agree that we need to show some u action that we're working on it even if we're not ready to approve it by September 30th. At least if we show that we're in motion on it, >> it would seem like we would be doing the right thing. We're trying to we're trying to vote on it, but we can't vote on it if we don't have something to vote on. Just doesn't make sense. We're not ready by
039September if we don't have it by September 30th all the way it needs to be. What what would be our penalties if any? >> We don't know. They haven't said >> well I would be afraid of getting a penalty if we don't have it ready. So what do we need to do to have it? >> And how hard is that? I mean Dr. Cardona, how how difficult would it be to get something ready? I can work with Juan to craft something that expresses your wishes, too. >> I mean, I don't really I'm not >> Yeah, >> I guess I'm the least concerned about this. Um, this is the time to have it. This is our agenda prep for our September meeting, and it's our September meeting. It's not the legislaturator September meeting. We don't have
040any guidance to put anything on our agenda. I don't want to spend five grand custom crafting something through our own council when we're not even sure if that's going to be consistent. Especially here where if we air to either side, we risk drawing eye from one group or another. >> It just seems like we would love to, but we can't. So >> So you're saying you don't think we even need to have an item on the agenda at all? From my perspective, I wouldn't be worried about this not coming to us until we had something from TASBY. Um, or we had something otherwise endorsed by TEA. I haven't even read the education code provision, which I guess came into effect yesterday. >> Yeah. >> But we got to post it seven days before meeting. So,
041that's Friday. We're going to run around to draft something. We're not even sure it's it meets the I just it seems a silly exercise to me. >> I'm fine for going it. So unless anybody feels really strongly that we have to have it on the agenda, I think we can wait at least a month. >> Okay, >> that's fine. Anything else that anybody would like to add? >> I have a question. >> Yes. >> Are we doing an up or down vote on salary and benefits or we just saying no action is our action? I just want to know what I need to start telling people. And obviously that's a board not a staff thing, right? Like I know we've passed the HB2 funding through to professional employees and I guess whatever change was rattled
042around in that pity bank is going to hourly and admin. But did we vote on that right because what it was like $42 a person or something? >> Well, we had three different scenarios and we never officially adopted one scenario over the other. Um, I think we should probably add a financial update because we have the outstanding issue of have we are we going to collect all the monies that are owed to us because we're in that weird loop. So, we need to be updated on that. And I think that we should get a budget update on every like where we sort of stand in general, right? What the what it looks like. Um, and then yeah, I think we should make a decision. And even if that we decide if that conversation is we
043decide to take action this month or we decide to wait, we've also talked about, you know, maybe doing a mid-year stipen, we've had many different scenarios that have put forward, but I think we should take some sort of action. The last guidance we got from Mo Casey, who is our financial people, and this is the call that you were on, is now they're because of the second special session, they're not looking at addressing the 11 school districts that are disproportionately affected by the new finance until late October, November potentially in the settle portion of so he's aware that these 11 districts are losing about 60 60 million 55 to 60 million dollars. Um and I think where we get confused to where it becomes like we hear from the commissioner that he has to go
044to the governor and the legislature to get approval. The legislators fire back letters saying you have statutory authority to make unintended consequences correct. And it's like, well, who's telling us the truth? We just want our settle up. And what was in the legislative budget board that was approved that we should have gotten is not adding more money to the state. It's what they've already approved. >> So, you're saying that we're not going to really know for we don't know how long. >> It initially was supposed to be August and then it turned into September, October. Now, it's November. Well, I still think we should have the discussion this month about. >> We can update y'all on that. >> The discussion on the budget or the discussion like an action item on >> I think we
045should have an update on the budget and take action or not on one of the three pay raise profiles. I so to since I opened this can of worms um I just want to know what we're doing because I don't right like as a trustee if someone were to approach me are we going to give raises I don't think so would be my answer today um we >> additional raises >> we did the pass through >> and the step schedule >> yeah okay it's a teacher I'm talking about everybody else okay so >> what are we doing for everybody else >> um and if it's nothing then I'm like, let's just go ahead and rip that band-aid off and say it's nothing. Maybe October, November or something. Maybe if a wish is granted by the
046genie in the bottle. Okay. Um, but I just want to be able to give people a definitive answer moving forward. >> I think that's appropriate. Um, okay. Anything else? >> Okay. Seeing nothing, >> I move to adjurnn. >> Motion made to adjurnn, seconded. All in favor, please raise your hand. Meeting is adjourned at 12:39. So you're going to do