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Special Board Meeting - March 31, 2025

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YouTube / Southwest ISD School Board
Date
2025-04-16
Location
Bexar County, TX
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5,108 words · about 29 min
Collected
2026-06-10

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001We're going to call the meeting to order at 11:30. Dr. Ball, we're going to start with our invocation of Roger. Thank you. Please stand if you're able. Lord, as we gather for this special meeting, may we be grounded in purpose and guided by a spirit of service. Let us approach our work with open minds and thoughtful hearts. May we listen carefully, speak with respect, and collaborate with integrity. We are grateful for the growth and expansion within our district and for the many projects underway that will benefit our students and community. May we be thoughtful stewards of these opportunities and be mindful of the impact our work will have for years to come. We also give thanks for the meals shared during this time, the child nutrition department that prepared it, and for the nourishment it

002provides as we continue our work together. May the decisions we make today reflect our commitment to our students, staff, and the families we serve. and all these things we pray. Amen. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Honor the Texas flag. I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas. One state under God, one and indivisible. Thank you, Roger. Thank you, ma'am. Um, did we have anybody signed up to speak? We did not. Okay. Oh, yeah. Let's take a short break for everybody to get their food. We'll um start with do I say the time? Well, 11:41. Um item four, consider approval of guaranteed maximum prize for package number two of Southwest Legacy

003High School edition project. Yes, ma'am. We're pretty excited because uh this will finalize all our major projects uh getting the GMPS done and getting construction started. Uh previously the board approved uh GMP1 which was about $892,000 for site work. Uh we've worked with district staff, the architect, Fluger, with Joris. We went through all the bids that Joris received for this project. Uh and we looked at all the subcontractors bids for this project. And at this time, we're asking the board to approve a GMP2 of 14,986,24. I will say that this project overall when you GP GMP1 is about 16,974584 total construction project buyin. Uh we did add scope as a district. Uh we are replacing all the controls. We have controls issues there. We ran this by our subcommittee. Uh and so we did add

004a million dollars to this project overall from the original budget. And so we're asking the board and recommending the to approve the GMP package 2 for the Southwest Legacy High School project. I move that we approve. I second. Daniel and Flo. Um do we have any questions? No. If not, I need uh all those in favor say I. I oppose. No. Thank you. Uh consider approval to award contract RFP 2425-114 for graphic design services. Yes, ma'am. We're going to have Winston and his team come up and present this. Uh we released an RFP to on graphic designs to really reinvent our cafeterias. And so they're going to present real quickly on what this will look like and what our plan is. And I know most of you probably haven't met Joshua yet. This is Joshua

005Lawrence. He is our child nutrition specialist. He's focused in on the procurement side. So he helps with the bids at child nutrition and some other things. Duties aside. Go ahead, sir. Thank you. Uh so yes, we are excited to uh present today uh some proposals for graphic design services in our cafeterias. Um we're looking at starting with our elementary schools and then moving on to the middle schools and the high schools. Uh we did a one-year contract with the option to extend up to two further one years. Uh that way we can spread this project out. Uh we had six responses. Um and we evaluated three that were we found the most responsive and we decided that Palmer Hamilton LLC was the best value for the district. U so we have some proposals here. This

006would be uh two versions of the elementary schools um doing some painting and the new graphic um printables on the walls. And this would be on the inside wall where the students walk to receive the food. Uh so adding uh some really nice elements uh inside. Uh we would also be redoing these signs that currently hang over the serving lines. Um these would all feature nutritional values um that would promote healthy eating with our uh students. As for the middle school, this is a proposal for McAuliff. Thank you. Uh Mcoliff. Uh so that wall would be completely redone adding in those same elements and uh signage as well and the inside wall as well would get uh redone and make it look real nice and pretty. So side walls we would add in some corkboards.

007That way we would still be able to post everything that we are required to post. And the serving lines would get new signage as well. Uh year one we would look at doing five of the elementarymentaries. Uh Sun Valley, Spicewood, Big Country, Medio Creek, and Bob Hope. We would also want to get McAuliffe done as we feel it's one of the schools that needs the most work. Year two, we would finish off the elementary schools and then we would also get Scobby Middle School done as we feel would be the next school that would uh benefit the most. And the final year, we could do the remaining two middle schools, McNair and Resnik. These would probably need signage only, so it would be cheaper for us. And we could also then look at doing the

008two high schools. Uh we feel that Southwest would need the bulk of the money, uh because it is a larger space. Uh overall, uh we are estimating that we would need no more than 840,000 over the three years. Uh this would be covered by child nutrition funds. Thank you. Question. I will say that we will probably at the subcommittee facility subcommittee bring kind of further designs as we start to plan these out and get real in the weeds and then we maybe we can do an items information in the future once we kind of get the So everything that's currently there will be removed all we're going to replace it is upgrading the marketing making it more modern and uh their team's going to work on the Daniel moves. Second. Uh, any other questions? If

009not, all those in favor say I. I. Oppose. No. Um, thank you guys. I consider approval of change order number one for the Elm Creek Elementary renovation project. So, currently right now we have LBA architect that's on the elementary project at Elm Creek. Uh, we also have forest general contractors who is the general contractor on this job. Uh previously in the 2012 bond, we we uh went and we basically did a full makeover of Indian Creek and Big Country with the exception of the Millwork. Uh at the time, we didn't have enough bond funds to do the mill work. Uh we just at with the 2012 bonds, we ran out of funds when we came to that point. So at this point, we're asking because we've done some studies at the mill work at Indian

010Creek and Big Country. We took this to subcommittee to look into possibly adding it uh and doing this in the future. So we're asking the board to do a change order to the Elm Creek project because LPA was the architect that was on Indian Creek and Bunk Country at the time and we would like to extend this to Doris to go ahead and add those to the scope so that they can go in and replace the mill work this summer and it would be a complete mill work replacement. There's a you have a picture here of what it would look like uh going in and replacing the countertops and also all the mill work across the each each classroom. And so recommended to the board to approve the change order to the Elm Creek project

011contract uh to the amount of 2.3 million and 50,000 or $2,350,000. And that's from bonds. It'll be from bond funds. Okay. Joe and James. Okay. Any other questions, guys? No. Do you have anything else to say, Brandon, about it? Okay. All those in favor say I. I. Oppose. No. Thank you. Uh, consider approval of 2025 2026 medical benefits plan. So, you have this paperwork on your desktop there. I don't know how you're going to do it, but it's going to be good enough for you to see up here on the on the uh screen. Uh, so there's a lot of data. There's a lot of uh different rates. I want to talk about a couple years back uh we found out Yumana was leaving the market and they were getting out of the public sector

012u um and so what we had to do is we needed to go out and bid out our interns again. Uh at the time we replaced our agent. So we hired Brown and Brown to be our agent to help us go out and solicit uh different bids from different providers. Uh the part of selecting Brown and Brown was they had a history of creating self-funded plans for districts which was also the trajectory that we were trying to be on. Uh moving away from the fully insured to the self-funded plan hopefully bringing better premiums and better service to our employees at the same time reducing the cost the district has as far as their contribution. Uh so that's kind of been our our pathway and I know with you we had a couple presentations to the

013board about um trying to go self-funded. Uh the issues that we've ran into is this year is a historical year for us as far as claims. Uh so at the end of the day, the best way I can put this is is that we have more claims coming in than we're paying in premiums. I shared this with the budget committee the other day. Uh if you look at the blue re is our premiums and the red highly uh the most uh used months because most people are off in those days because we have Thanksgiving break and we have Christmas break uh and a lot of people do uh surgeries and and go to the doctor. But they claim that uh is basically if you look at December we're spending 29% more than we're bringing in.

014So, we're 129% spend uh in that month and you get to January, it's 152%. Wow. And so, we know based on our trend data, especially in the summer, when we get to the months of May, June, and July, other folks start to go out, get their surgeries, go to the doctor, and do all their things. And so, we're projecting to spend over $13 million in claims, which we're bringing in when we take the money from the employee and the district contributes, we're going to bring in about 11 million. So, Blue Cross Blue Shield is going to take a loss this year based on our claims of what we're paying in premiums. Uh, what does that mean for us? Uh, so this chart shows you on the left side, this is our current. So, we have

0151686 employees that take our insurance and we're budgeting at 559 per employee. That's what Blue Cross is budgeting on and hoping that we would stay below that 11.3 million. We're projecting this year to finish at 13. And so next year, looking at our claims data, we would need to put almost $676 or per person to raise enough funds to cover the deficit of 13 million. Why is this important? Because we wanted brown and brown to go out and bid out our insurance. So, they did with the idea that when we signed up with Blue Cross Blue Shield, we had a two-year agreement with a one-year renewal, and they promised if we stayed with them another year, they wouldn't go up 15% on our premiums. Uh, which is really good right now. It wasn't good when

016we think about it. At the time, it was like, well, that's still really high. We don't want our premiums to go up 15%. But we went out with Brown and Brown and they went out and they looked at the the medical area of fully insured and then they went out and looked at self-funded plans and asked people to bid on our plans. And so this is the actual market summary. And so Edna did not want to bid on ours. So they didn't even submit. Uh United Healthcare was pretty unresponsive. So they tried to call them, call them, they would not answer. So really Blue Cross is the only one that responded because they have our business already. And so they said, "Yes, we would like to do business with you next year, but based on

017your claims data, your your rates are going to increase 15%." So also with the self-funded, uh, we had two vendors, uh, Kemp Group and Lucent Health, who actually submitted bids, uh, to move us to a self-funded plan. The problem with that is when we build a self-funded plan with the $13 million without being at Blue Cross Blue Shield, our premiums would have went up 40% if we were on our own. So, as a district, we would have been we would have had set rates at 40% higher than what they are right now to go to a self-funded plan. Uh, and so Brown and Brown being our agent is recommended recommending to us to stay with Blue Cross Blue Shield due to the fact that their premiums are only going to increase due to the contract

01815%. Which is really not good either way for employees because at the end of the day, they're going to be paying more premiums next year than what they're paying now. So, what that looks like, uh, so this is basically if we didn't do anything as a district, uh, and I I like to look at the bronze plans, which are the two middle plans. Those are the ones that are most used by our employees. So, we have the bronze HMO. If you look at employee only, we have 578 employees on the bronze HMO. And if you move over to where it says employee pays monthly. So the bronze HO right now currently they're paying $50.75 because of the rate increase of 15% from Blue Blue Cross Blue Shield that's going to go to $114.61 and so

019it's a pretty significant increase which was the 15%. Same thing in the Bronx PO we have 563 employees on the bronze PO right now. that employee pays $98 a month for that plan and next year they would be paying $169 uh for that plan. And the reason why I'm bringing this up today because we need to adopt the rate so that because we have spring enrollment uh we really don't have any other choice out in the market to go to right now. We don't have any other fully insured that bid our product and then it's going to be too expensive for the employee and the district to do selfunded at this time. So, we are recommending to stay with Blue Cross even with the 15% cap of uh percentage increase, but we're also recommending to

020the district to you to talk about possibly adding to the contribution. Uh I know it's counterproductive to the deficit. We're trying to reduce. We're working over here doing things to reduce our deficit, but at the same time, our employees are going to fill this in the pocketbook. Right now, we don't know what the state's going to do as far as raises. They're saying that they're going to do something. So hopefully it will help when we give a raise here this spring when we get through the legislative session. Uh but if we don't do anything, we're going to see pretty significant rates increases for our employees. So the recommendation from district staff because we're in legislative session is to increase uh $25 a month per employee uh going into next year. wait till legislators meet and

021see what they do compensation wise. And if they do something, that's great. That's going to help us. But if they don't, then we could possibly revisit this again uh in maybe June or July and increase it some more to help mitigate the burden of the increase. But right now, if we do a $25 increase, which goes from 375 to 400, we have 1686 employees. Now, this number will fluctuate because we might have more employees on the plan next year or less. Um, so doing $25 per employee more a month cost the district about $500,000. Anything above that, so I put on there for 415, if we went from 375 to 415, that'd be about $800,000. If we went up $50, it would cost the district a million dollar to do that based on current enrollments.

022So right now, as a district, I would recommend that we increase it to $25 to help. It's still going to be an increase in employee. probably won't know that we give them an extra $25, but at the same time, it's going to lower that burden on that cost and at the same time still watch what we happens in Austin and see if they do a compensation plan and if they don't, we might want to come back and revisit this to add to this to help employees so they don't feel like next year they go into next year and they're actually making less money because of cost of health insurance. So that would be my recommendation to the district. Brandon, how do we compare with like other districts as far as insurance is everyone you know

023we looked around at different districts. There's some districts that are their rates are a lot higher than us and there's some districts that have lower rates and what I've learned in this just like property insurance or any insurance is based on your claims. So when you're by yourself, our that's why we got out of the big pools because we wanted to be by ourselves. But this year we have such significant health concerns going on with some of our employees that they're there's like 27 claims that are driving most of this 27 people. Uh and it's just what it is this year. So really we can say we can compare but we did put up here the contributions like so Southside's giving $375 a month per employee. Uh, you know, Judson's giving 400, Hardingville's giving 410,

024376, Northeast is giving 600, but I noticed the plans that are self-funded, they're they're actually paying more. So, it's supposed to be helping, but like your self-funded plans, the the districts are having to contribute more for the employees. So, I don't know. It's because they're trying to navigate it. I know I talked to Valley, they're self-funded. They're having a hard time with their plan right now. Hardenell, the same thing, just because cost of insurance is up. When you go to the doctor, it's a lot more expensive. And you know, the the claims data is what gets you. So it's hard to compare to other districts when our claims data is what it is. And I mean, I'm not saying our we're not healthier. No. But it's it's it's uh just this year's different. So hopefully

025it gets better and then we can really work on reducing rates and possibly one day maybe go to selfunded. But at this time our rates are no better than what TRS was offering. So that's another thing we need to look at. So when you do try to go self-funded, how many years do they look back to or is it just previous year or do they? Yeah, they try to look at five year trend data on what your claims are. Uh and they build a program because when you hire somebody to help you do that, they're their best interest is for us to be successful at it, right? uh because that's I mean and so they're going to look at all five years and they're going to build us a plan so that we aren't having

026to use any like stop-loss or fund balance to cover our losses because we don't want to be in the health insurance business because we want it to be not profitable but we want to pay in help people get better service but at the same time not put a burden on the district more than what it already is. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I know we you know we asking you admin board find ways to cut money and fix the deficit something like revisit later understand that we're going to try to help them to make sure I do want to say that to the board because we do have a goal of saving 4 millions from our deficit but this is one of those things that we talked about at the beginning that it may impact us. We're

027going to still work to get to that 4 million. We to project our revenue, but I think it's well worth it to really help employees with this part. Okay. Uh Joe moves second. Daniel second. If there's no other questions, all those in favor say I. I. Oppose. No. Thank you. Uh items of information. The Juan M. Alvarado Elementary mascot survey. Roger's going to do a presentation. I know that Roger with along with the communications department have been have done a survey to gather some input. So of course this today is just an item of information to share some of the information Roger has the survey. So thank you Roger. And there's a whole process and Roger's the expert on that. So he's been handling this project. U one of the things we noticed when there

028is a new school that the children love saying years down the road and 30 years from now they're going to say we help name them. So, we made sure to uh survey the kids that the future students of that school and I'm going to go ahead and let Roger handle it. Thank you. Um, how y'all doing this afternoon board? Dr. Ball, also want to acknowledge uh Mr. Alvarado in the audience and our new uh principal Wilson over there. Uh, welcome. So, these are again these are survey results. Uh, what we did was this is my fifth school actually helping with the naming of um I helped with uh Medio Creek, Spicewood, Resnick, and Legacy. So, this will be my fifth one to help with. Um, again, what uh like Jenny reiterate uh reiterate what Jenny

029said was that uh when we give this uh opportunity to our students uh to allow them to be able to help name their school or name their mascot, I should say, um they take great pride in that and they do take ownership of that. This helps them with uh becoming uh a new building and being a new family. So, I'm going to go ahead and go to the results here. So um our procedure what part of our procedure that we do is that we survey uh the new students that are going to be coming in to the new school uh projected. So uh we surveyed the third and fourth grade students from Sky Harbor and uh Spicewood Park Elementary. Um the the teachers were uh gracious enough to allow us to give them the survey.

030We had 122 responses from them. um from our from the following slides you'll show that uh which one were the most popular ones where we had a consensus and then also uh what other notes that we could have regarding overlapping colors that we already have existing and other mascots that are used by schools. Uh just so you know within the uh the survey uh we presented the color choices in multiple choice formats. So we kind of gave them a list of different colors that way we don't get some really out there ones. But uh the mascot suggestions we also allowed them to do in short answer format. So they were able to write in their suggestions and then we were able to compile those results as well. So uh real quick the top main uh

031choice colors that we uh had for them um the question that we asked them is it what would look great as the main color for our new school. So the overwhelming response was uh they liked gold. Gold was 21% followed by blue, red, black and orange. Um of these notes to know is that Legacy is the only school that contains gold as its main color besides the green. There's also three other schools that use yellow as a secondary color, which is also similar to the gold. Uh, currently we have six schools that contain a shade of blue as its main color. So, even though uh the blue was in there as a second choice, um, it's something that we've done many times over. We're kind of running out of shades. Um, also to note is

032that Sky Harbor uses a blue and yellow scheme. So, of the top two color choices, um, you can see that there's already kind of an established color scheme there. As far as the second uh dairy color choices, what we asked them was that what would look great as a second color for our new school. So we asked them to think about what would look good with their color choice. So again, they chose gold again as their second. So they really like gold. Um they also uh very shiny. So they like gold. Um also followed by white, black, blue, uh red, and purple. Uh the gold received the most vote votes and then white and black being the next popular vote getter. Um, I I included purple into the list as a nod to Resnik. As

033we know, Alvarado Elementary is going to be built on the same complex as Legacy and Resnick. And I thought it'd be kind of a cool little tie-in to have uh gold for Legacy and purple for Resnick and it being the tying piece to the campus. So, it's just an idea. So, again, mascot choices. So, uh, mascot choices, uh, what we asked them was what kind of animal or character would make a good school mascot for our new school? Again, these were ride in votes. uh they were able to write in whatever it is that they felt at the time that they would be a great mascot. Um of those votes we had a tiger, a lion, eagle, cheetah, uh a dog and a fox. Um so obviously big cats were is the trend right now.

034They love big cats. Um but just as a note because even though we have tiger as number one for 16% uh Scobby is the tiger. So we have Scobby tigers already. And uh the third choice was the eagle but hidden cove already has eagles. So those are again those are choices that were been done but we can substitute other animals in that place that are similar that will help uh keep their uh their choice uh within uh the thinking of it. Sorry. Other considerations we also asked them is that what do they prefer? Did they prefer a a real animal or do they prefer something like a magical creature or anything like that? So uh with that question it was just which other one did they prefer? uh 60% chose that they wanted a real

035animal. And then we asked them, "What kind of traits do you want within that animal or that uh mascot?" And they chose uh words like fun, uh strength, wisdom, uh typical things that you would see within a mascot choice. They wanted something strong, something uh that would let them uh be able to have u um uh depth with instead of just something that's uh made up or anything like that. They they kind of have a a better way to grasp that. So, um, our key takeaways from this was that students overwhelmingly chose gold to be one of the colors, uh, either as the main color or the secondary color. Uh, the students would like a real animal. Uh, from the top choices that were not used already, uh, that would include lions, cheetahs, dogs, or

036foxes. And then based on these traits, they would, uh, like one of the more uh, of these traits, which is, uh, fun, strength, or wisdom. So, uh, all of these choices that they kind of chose goes in line with that. Okay. So this is what we recommend. Again, these are just recommendations we can go with um going through these uh the the survey and and what we do already have existing and then um to go along with what they said. Uh so some of the color combinations that we put in there was uh golden black uh instead of gold and white because uh gold and white are too similar uh in the color spectrum. So uh they would wash each other out. So we went with the black to give it some kind of contrast.

037Uh the other one was because it was also a popular choice was a golden red which is also very uh strong uh color and a golden purple which would also be that tie to resneck and to legacy. Um of the mascot choices that we had uh we could do uh lions which represent the big cats overall because they they they really like the big cats. Uh instead of an eagle maybe a hawk would be another choice. And then uh instead of just a a dog I guess they love dogs. uh we we decided a wolf which is also part of those traits that they asked for. Okay. So uh with those things what we do now the next step of the procedure is that we do draft lo draft logos. Um when we do draft

038logos what we do is that we don't use uh anything that's already stock already made. We do everything original artwork. So that way we don't have to worry about copyright. We don't have to worry about uh cease and desist. Everything is original. Um we do ask uh we can bring in examples uh to submit for reference. So um I will be working with uh Miss Wilson and uh senior staff board if you have suggestions or uh just something that you might see that hey this is a cool looking line or this is a cool looking hog. Maybe something like this uh we can then uh use that as reference to be making the logos. Um once we do that, we uh get the logos approved, the draft logos, and then the three two color combinations

039will then be voted on by future students. Uh the winning mascot with the winning color combination will then be revealed at a a future board meeting. So what we do is that basically we'll have nine choices for them. So we'll have three three mascots, three sets of colors, and then we have them all out uh for the students to see, and then they pick the one that they like the best. And that's pretty much how this how the uh procedure works on this. There's any questions? Could you go back to the original the first slide where it had the first color? Yes, ma'am. So, blue was so close. Um, I'm just for an elementary school. I'm just not sure about black to be quite honest. I don't know how anybody else feels, but I'm not

040feeling like that's a loving, vibrant, beautiful color. So, I don't know how the board feels, but maybe going back and narrowing it down to some colors that the board likes and then going for another vote without the color black. Any elementary board, I don't know how y'all feel. Black is just not doing it. And they have to be primary colors or they don't have to be primary colors. A lot of times we do shades. Uh like I said, since we have so many blue schools, um we have different shades of that blue. We have a light blue, a dark blue, uh like a blue green, uh I think was uh for spicewood. Um we have a like a dark blue and a silver with that's um Southwest Elementary. So uh we can do different shades

041of it. And same thing if we do want to add a different color scheme in there, we can. And then we can just work a different shade in there. I love the shade of blue that actually Daniel and Bernal are wearing. Dan is a really good blue. When I thought about blue, that's the color of blue. Like navy blue, like navy blue. And that's similar to the dark blue. And that color, the scobby colors is is a more of a of a is a blue and uh uh Sky Harbor has a has a navy blue already. And um we also have a navy blue with Meo Creek because they use that that blue orange. I know they're all wearing. I mean, we can we can do a draft of that so you can see it,

042but just know or any other color. Just know that it has to be a contrast, dark and light. I like I I mean, blue really wasn't that far behind gold. I mean, it's really almost 19 to 21. So, I I don't I mean, just personally, I don't even like gold for a school color. It's hard to match the You can't really get a gold t-shirt. You can't. It's It's rough when Legacy tries to do gold anything cuz it turns out being like yellow, like a mustard gold. Yeah. Yeah. Um and white was real close to the secondary color too. Right. And the reason I didn't uh we we didn't go with the white because of the again because I was going with the gold was that because of the contrasting color. Um and same thing

043like if we do a blue white that's also uh like a like a Scobby or a Southwest Elementary already. It's really close. Mhm. Um so that that's kind of why we're kind of showing these other colors, but again um I'm just presenting the uh the survey results from the students. One of the when one of the companies presented they had a really pretty like turquoise gold and I know that Creamwell does some type of like a turquoise but they're mainly purple, right? They use a turquoise purple turquoise. I know what we've done in the past is after Roger gets some of these colors because he can do combinations and then we can bring them to the subcommittee. Yeah. Because that's what we that's where we'll get them approved and kind of narrow them down and

044then and then I could also as far as like getting started on on the draft choices as far I can do we can have them done in black and white and then we can just pop in colors as we want. We can also do that as well. I would I would suggest one of the colors either blue and blue and white or blue and silver definitely be one of the colors that we of an option. Okay. Blue and white and blue and silver that sounds that looks really good. Well, it's Should we also I mean it if you're going to do um the eagle then you're not going to want like purple or Yeah. or is more of a like we're suggesting a hawk instead of an eagle because we have an eagle already. Yeah.

045Um but they can be whatever color. I mean we've seen them in Oh yeah. You can do anything you want as like I said I I can I can move as far as the mascot go. I can go black and white for now and then we can pop in colors as we need to. Just remember to keep it friendly because of what happened with spicewood that Yes. And that's what we that's scary. Again, we we so we switched it up now. So now it's a it's a it's a it's a cub. It's no teeth. So it's nice. Um again we as we do the procedure we learn these things but we can also um like I said I can go with any colors that we are being asked to do. Like I said I was

046just going by what was off the survey and what kind of works with what we already have. Uh like I said, um my my problem my my my problem my concern is that when you have uh say when we get all together for convocation uh as far as like saying like a blue and silver that's what we have for Southwest Elementary and it already being a south an elementary that you'll have the same color scheme as as another school that's already established and then you kind of get lost in that. So I wanted to give them some their own identity. But again, we can do whatever it is that you would uh want us to do on that. And with the 122 surveys y'all had, what grade level was it? Uh third and fourth grade.

047Okay. Isn't there a lot more? That's very a lot more kids than 120. Only the kids that are going into six classes should Okay. Yeah. But I can I can bring more color options to them and like you said, I can I can give them another survey. Give it a week and then we can see what we come back with. Um, like I said, really the main part that um, if I can move forward, again, it's up to y'all, is uh, the mascot piece because that's the part that takes a little longer uh, to get uh, you know, uh, examples and drafts and things like that. Again, I can do those in black and white and it's not a problem to color color them in later. So, you want us to know if we like

048the hawks or the uh, lions, hawks, wolves. Those were kind of like the the main ones. We going offline and coming up with mascots or we having somebody draw it or Yes. So, I have a graphic designer that I've been working with. He's the one that helped me uh re redo Spicewoods uh which they love now. So, um I'm going to use the same artist um that I work with to get that redone. I'm not going to steal her idea, but brought up a very good point. She said on one of those animals, there's a very distinct difference between the female version and the male version. So, she said maybe you should stick to one that the female and the male version look the same. So nobody says, "Oh, why did you pick the male

049version, not the female version?" Oh, the lion. But on on the on the lion, too, uh I was thinking since make it more kid-friendly, I was thinking more of of a of a of a cub as opposed cuz it's you don't have the mane yet and you don't have you can see the one. So that's an idea, too. Okay. So on this the one where you have all the mascots, what did you say? Hawk. Oh, uh, hawk, lions, and wolves. Or we can do a dog or what was their favorite? Well, we don't want to do wolf cuz then they say, go. Their favorite was a tiger, which was down the line, a lion, a cheetah, a dog, lion, an eagle. their second and the eagle is uh is hidden cove that's why you're saying

050what do you think namesake you don't like the lions or the hawks We're going to have to get back to you on the M. We're not ready to pick. Okay. Absolutely. I can table this for a little while, so it's not a problem. Yeah. Okay. I just wanted to give you the results of the survey. Thank you, Roger. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Okay. So, we will talk about the mascot more later. All right. Um, where's my agenda? What's next? Oh, other business. Dr. Ball, want to remind everybody there's a meeting tomorrow. If anybody would like to ride with us, you certainly can. The send off I send information very similar to what we've done in the past at 2:15 today. Um, if anybody like to join me, there's two fail events going on. One of

051them is going to be at Hidden Cove at 1:30. I'm not sure we'll make that one. And then at 2:30 at Sun Valley and then again I think everybody remembers this weekend we will go and have a presentation at the conference by chief alone and we'll get an award and we'll get an award. Awesome. Okay. Uh anything else board? Yes. No. Okay. We're going to Oh. Okay, we're going to adjourn at 1217.

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