001Ladies and gentlemen, it's 6:05 p.m. August the 7th, 2025. [Music] Ladies and gentlemen, it's 6:05 p.m. August the 7th, 2045. It's 6:05 p.m. August the 7,4 6:05 Edison professionalism. Honor the golden rule and one another. time discussion by everyone and come prepared and focus on the agenda and be respectful and different. Item three is public forum. Is there anybody here to make a public appearance tonight? If not, we'll move to item four which action items. Item number A is consideration hospital approval of a proposed policy student conduct personal communication devices electronic devices superintendent [Music] to the W personal um communication device policy and procedures for your review and consideration a copy of the document packet this. This policy outlines clear expectations for the use and consequences related to personal communication device and sexual day. It's
002been developed and aligned to the House Bill 1481 and reflects our district commitment to minimizing distractions, providing student engagement and ensuring a safe and focused learning environment. So, at this time, do you have any questions about the personal communication policy and procedure? Super please. >> Yes, please. And you have one man in front of you. And this is what we gowed to put their cell phone in here and they will carry this all the so at the end of the day. We have this that is the magnet that only open let's say during the day 11:00 Johnson's parents are in the front office they want Johnson for medical or whatever reason I'm signing out from the front in front of yeah there will This stays with just we're not picking this back. This is our
003student all year long now. So even if just like we said the last time the group is going to share to play qualify they there coach the coach will have one of these they can call their parents who are going to be on campus. So that solved that problem of everybody will be able to have their phone after instruction. If they lose this the district will charge them $30 for it. If they break it, we going to charge them. And for example in a household of siblings maybe I break my own I take my sister when you scan it on campus we are going to know Julie this is not yours you belong to your sister that is how that students students who bring only the students who have a device will get one of
004these things but they don't otherwise they won't have much >> and at this time this is costing the district $23,630. Um we purchased 1,300 we are locatedating per campus symbols being the least we are giving you only 10 of it but if they do ask for more but the the state now just came up with a grant for it to which we have done we hope you believe we are going to qualify. We saw the matrix we pretty much qualify. So definitely this is paying itself off and these are three years warranty question $30 to replace it. uh looking at this paper we're going to put down somewhere exactly where the parents will come in and sign that and students to take it home to sign this information will be part of a sign with
005technology and this information will be in there as some really good page but processes. Thanks. >> Any other questions? If not, would somebody be kind enough to make a motion to council with this? I recommend the board approves the proposed communication device for our students. >> All the motion been made and seconded by Miss Press. All in favor indicate by saying I. >> I. >> All opposed. Motion passes. Under item 4B, consideration of possible approval of student code conduct. >> All right. I'm here to see you to present the Mort student code of conduct for your consideration of possible approval. Each of you have a copy of the document in your board packet. The code of conduct outlines the district's expectations for student behavior as well as disciplinary procedures and guidelines that ensure a safe
006and supportive learning environment for all of our students in Warden. Are there any questions? Superintendent the recommendation. >> I recommend at this time that the board approved the student code of conduct for school year. >> So moved by seconded by Alicia. All in favor indicate by saying I. >> All opposed. Motion passes unanimously. >> Thank you. Other discussions budget and travels just never mind. Um so in your packet you should have um the two travel codes that were given to you. Um there is the 6419 which is the board travel and then the 64.95 which is the membership dude. Does everyone have that? Okay. Um, so I know that this is a discussion overboard travels. Um, I'm just going to give a little bit of information on it. Um, so travel that is so close
007to the end of the fiscal year. Um, so someone who travels like late June, we sometimes do not get those invoices in time. So they do end up hitting the next year's budget and that happens every year. So even this come this fiscal year in June if we travel in late June we will not receive those invoices in time and they will carry over to the next following fiscal year. Um with that being said uh we also have travel for them. Um we follow the financial procedures manual of the district um which we hold all the staff accountable for whenever they travel. Um, so we have travel premium at $34.50 for travel day, which is 75% of the full amount, $46 for pool days. Uh, membership dues can be used for registration cost. So, both
008of those line items can be used um the membership dues for travel cost and then the travel line for hotels and milk for um are there any other questions pertaining to these two items before y'all do any discussion? Any questions? >> Oh, did you mean to approve? >> No, this is just a discussion item for the board to decide how they want to split up the tra if they're wanting to split up travel cost per board member or how you guys are wanting to, you know, dy out the the travel funds that are approved for the year. Um, I don't know if you want to all lot some per board member. um or if you're just wanting to say, you know, approve travel and then we just use those account codes. Um I do know
009that in the financial procedures manual there is also a stipulation on lodging um which that can also be overwritten by you know you guys or the superintendent and that we don't normally pay for travel for hotels that are 100 miles or less from the administration. Now, please correct me if I'm wrong about this, but I believe our policy manual states that we're going on a trail outside the district area, but at that point, the board is to give our approval to that trail. >> I did look through the policies and I could not quite pinpoint that policy. Uh if you do have it, I can pull it. >> I think the approval is just if you use all your funds and maybe another member hadn't >> and you want to use their funds to go
010somewhere, that's when you need for approval. But far as once it pass inside of your restricted or amount, that doesn't need approval. Just if you're going to use somebody else's, like say somebody doesn't ever go to classes and you got another conference you want to go to, you got to get approval to use. See the reason I brought that vow and told me the board did then at that time maybe another member is planning to go to a different meeting somewhere else and we can deviate [Music] knowing that fact out of district traveling from the superintendent before entering the current >> because I think I don't know but we've had to constrain the budget to a certain extent which there's a good chance that some of us were not going to be traveling out of
011town for whatever reason. And so under those circumstances, these funds can go to those that won't go. If it turns out that we do have either a new member or whatever that would like to attend, then the board can have a hand in diving up the funds in a fair manner. >> Yes. >> I mean, yes. >> Does that sound great? >> Yeah. that everybody gets a specific amount and then say a few of you choose not to travel out and then those funds can be divied up to the remaining people who would like to travel. >> So I was just under the impression that I'm looking at this and it says that boy travel above that you know board travel >> uh the policy that I pulled on board travel didn't really specify. no
012um aotments or amounts or meal predems or anything like that. Um we normally have the board follow the same procedures in the financial procedures manuals as all of our staff. Um so that's the same aotment that we give for like milks. We do the same for board as we do for staff that are traveling overnight and things like that. If there is a different policy, I looked it up. I tried to look it up. I tried to look through all the different board travel policies and I didn't see one specifically saying there's a separate policy for board travel saying they can only do this that or the other but um I'm open to continue looking or if someone can share it with me. I just think I think I don't know is that the board
013policy or what policy out >> I believe what she read out was the the financial procedures manual >> right the board >> no all the travel policies and there were no specific amounts in there that I was behind >> I don't know if it's the same way but with the city we had to abide by what was offered to the employees >> it's just a cleaner for your accounting purposes instead of having two sets. So, >> yes. And that's normally how the board travels is they travel according to our guidelines for employees that are in the financial procedures man. >> Anybody else have any questions? All right. >> Any other questions? >> At this time, this is item number six. We're going to journ pursuant to Texas government code section 51.074 074 of the open
014meetings act and calling personnel matters new administrative contracts and item number B consultation deliberation with district legal council regarding the appointment of a candidate for a trustee basic number five at this time and it's 6:21 call [Music] Michelle, I'm going to send a message now. We're going to kick her out because we're going to do number one first. >> We're going to go ahead. I will send it on first. >> Okay. >> Then I will send a message. >> Okay. I put her in the waiting room. >> And is that the only one? That's Michelle. I shall do it. mute myself. Post tools can unmute themselves. Michelle, you there? >> Yes, I am here. Can you hear me? >> Hello, >> Michelle. Yes. >> Michelle, you there? >> Yes, I'm here. >> She can She
015can unmute herself. She can do everything. She She's supposed to >> I'm I'm hear you. Can you hear me? >> Nope. I can't hear her. >> Hello. >> At all. >> So, our sound's working and it sounds like hers isn't. >> Okay. Let me let me try. Tell her to uh just call you. It probably faster than her trying to do that. It sounds cuz she can hear me but we can't hear her. >> That's strange. >> Yeah. Sounds like >> Okay, she's talking now. >> You're going to call me. Okay. She said you can't call. >> Yeah. Let me turn all this back off just to make sure that no one else is hearing y'all. I'm going to go and take her out since she's calling you. >> Yeah. California speak. Yes, >> we
016have four candidates that have submitted applications and I think the board would like to hear your suggestions as to how we can handle this situation >> and I did the first part. You have how many candidates are applicants? >> Four applicants. Okay. And so um you are able to um I guess you want to have some discussion about that. >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, I think you're going to have to talk about that inuss That's the close. You didn't you just I'll look at your agenda. You can't pick up. So you have 551.074. If you have four applicants, you can discuss. >> I think we can discuss these candidates and discussion you um well let's see may discuss candidates to f you can disclose session if you got four >> uh Michelle one other question
017and I know the board might but these were submitted these applications were submitted to the superintendent's office there had been no public release of the names identities of the people that >> are the candidates for some reason or are you a board I mean you can talk I think about the candidates that you have right now that we have to fill the vacancy we're have to act on those slices. You can offic What I was personally trying to get at is we under any obligation to release the names of the people that submitted their applications. >> Act of each separately. >> Yeah, I see that. You can go and make your motion motion. You can decide the board. Okay. I think so. But I think I think again talked about. [Music] How would you get
018the superend website to my office? We are extending our deadline. And we don't have any special election in November. The problem with it is You know, you know the district to the board. Okay. As you can tell, you have applications for candidates. Hopefully have a chance to go through and review each one of those. Say from the entire board. Do you see someone who stands out to you as well? I forgot to bring but I don't I've never met you. He stands out to me as well. I know there was four. I believe Robert leadership skills. Mr. Park is well known in the community. Miss Robert used to serve on city council. supposed to be live. Excuse me. Couple stand out for me. Robert Let me ask you this. What is it in those two
019that you found to be compelling? >> Well, I know both of them. Both of them. Uh, I mean, Merl's come here and talked to the board before. Uh, Mr. Perry, I'm not familiar with him at all. I haven't seen him do anything in the community as far as any type of anything to do with any kind of organization. I know he's just recently retired. His his resume has full list. [Music] I never I her choose her. She just wanted to be the nervous. I kind of was hoping to feel like sticking around. >> Yeah. And I seen those uh bills that you placed on there, but I'm just saying me personally. >> I had and I guess, you know, we're just two different circles. I haven't seen it do anything um you know involve any
020children in the issue or anything like that. >> I I I do have a question about um would it be a conflict with this spouse employed by WB >> she's already employed here? Well, I know that, but I'm saying bring him to serve on the board that she he was on the board, she couldn't get hired by since he's already works here. >> Well, we I I remember when was going to work and then we hired his wife and then he had come off. He had come off. Yes. But the employee already works there. Somebody can come Yeah, I I like Robert Vander. Uh, you know, he served uh the word for 17 years. Uh, you always see him out in the community. He's not even known the little league door anymore. He still goes
021cut the grass for him in his spare time. Uh, the kids know him. Uh, not not just boys, girls too. You know, he's got the the girls playing T-ball over there very early. Kind of implemented that. Uh, you know, a lot of thank him for that. on the softball side. You got a good little motives. He's well known in the community. Uh people know him. People, you know, hold his word to an account. Uh because he sings, they see him the se putting in the work. And I think people respect that. Uh he's not a person that just talks about it. He does it. Uh he has grandchildren in the district. Uh you know, he he's just been he's been a warden guy for long as I can remember. Uh you know, meeting him out
022when I played little league as well. city location >> um experience. I don't know anyone else in here. Personally, I looked at their resumes. I just wanted to see the connection where they see as far as having kids in the district because if you guys created then you have something your child isn't getting the benefits of the extraordinary education. Um, and one person I know stood out to me, which was Alice. And all I said is because I see her operating with sister to sister and sister to Sister is a nonprofit organization and they always have big events and they do a lot where they give back to kids. They mentor the young girls in our district. They do um a lot of fundraising and they do stuff on Easter during the summertime, keep the
023kids active. They read with the children as well. So I I'm kind of seeing her, you know, in the in the community actually active um doing things with the children now. I can't speak for her, but the word uh web, but I do know that I've seen her, you know, active in the community. Um I was looking at the other one um and I just I guess I only seen Well, I looked at the softball, Mr. Jud or is that >> dismissed? Okay. Well, I looked at that one and I thought about um him actually having activity with, you know, the church and being u influential in his church community. And then I saw that he deal with kids as far as softball and I was like okay it's open for discussion and I figured
024that once we got here once people started to speak about their personally I can get some more insight um you know who is really going to say the children I know probably know I can say that I had met Vanderbil because I believe he served 30 years name plastics and I'm sure I used out there quite a bit about 30 years ago. I'm sure I probably have met him. I had communications with him over Facebook. Uh however Jud I'm not going to say his close person friend but certainly I know he is very active in the church but the other thing that I will tell you about him that really has a big appeal to me is the fact that he is on the technical side of things like our vocational uh vocational programs. He
025is very in tune to that especially if you look at his background on South Texas nuclear project. Now you might say well why does that impress you? Because that is one topic that I'm not aware in the last year and a half that the board has ever even talked about how are we doing in metal trades, how are we doing in woodworking, how are we doing comparison public schools for FFA. I really found find that healing. And then the other thing that I will tell you is that during the time that we were completing the junior high school to get it finished, there was no no telling how many times I had communications with him about things he saw that could be improved around the school and I would take his recommendations, discuss it with
026the superintendent. if superintendent agreed that he had the problems resolved within a period of two weeks. So in other words, here was a fellow on the outside just happened to live close to where the junior high school is and kept an eye on things that at least from my vantage point was I really appreciated it because the ideas that he gave were very very solid. So now there's one other thing that I'd like to say. You're not going to find a finer individual in this community, the world legends. She probably is considered maybe the best historian in the state of Texas and in no way can take away from her in the experience. She the way I remember it served I'm thinking make two terms on county junior college board of trustees. So she's not
027not unfamiliar with elective office that she darn sure performs. Many of y'all will notice that she has a fairly lengthy column in the local newspapers or newspaper every week. And uh however to back up what Lisa was saying a long ago that she only wants to serve the remaining nine months and then die. So I think at this point and at least for me this is not an easy decision but I think I would have to say that the strongest one in the packet for me is going to be judge because technical skills and experience with South Texas nuclear and the fact he's not just a little bit busy. He's still a whole lot busy. Well, I was saying with with the the plant experience, you know, WC offers that that twoyear nuclear um you
028know um force I'm not sure what but um that could be something that is still over here for our saviors with the um you know the traits like you were saying earlier the traits now in a conversation I remember what it was made inviting me >> and I've had another person contact me about the same thing Jud would have lied and I sure don't have any complaint about this at all about the the desire but Jud has emphasized time and time again to me that he wants our graduates to be job ready the moment they walk out of the high school. Uh so in other words I I personally think the board would be benefited because even though I'm curious that I have had a chance to tour the buildings and meet the employees I'm
029not a trades guy. I like learning about them, but I'm not a trades guy. Judge is and I'm gonna have to say my personal opinion is that the board and the community will be served very well with Jud as possible replacement. So I understand you know u you're being pushed to judge but I mean if he the guy you say he is I I can see him still uh offering you know you say you got that relationship with it and I don't think he necessarily has to be on the board to continue in that passage uh for this uh you know less than a year time u you know I I look back on when you and Miss Perez came on board. One thing that she uh expressed at one of our meeting was the
030fact that the voters have spoken. And when I say that, in this last election when you had the two incumbents and you had the two board members, uh clearly the voters spoke and what the voters took into consideration more than probably anything else was individuals that had pretty much uh children in our school district. And uh cuz I mean Merl uh she's been here, she's talked to the board several times. Uh I I I see her as pretty much the same as uh the two incumbents that that didn't get elect didn't get elected. So, uh, that's why I I'm I would say, uh, let's go in in the direction of of of the voters speaking in that last election and and bringing on, uh, two energetic uh, young board members versus older uh, board members
031that u, I mean, they didn't have I don't think they had children in the district. Uh I think they even had grandchildren in our district. So with that I would say I would go into in the direction of >> our last uh election. >> Um so Miss Hudgins I believe owns quite a bit of property. So she has some say there >> well stopping Miss too. >> Yes. and we don't ask for so long before we you know but she's she's she was also a judge and um has a lot of volunteer work here um but Miss Roberts has also ran for office was it one time or two >> no she ran two times and not elected so >> so You know, the thing is you and I I don't you know, I have
032an appreciation for what you're saying, but it goes both directions that if if you're talking about what the voters wanted, okay, so we've got two new representatives. But what does that say when the voters also say no twice to putting the person back on the city council some reason if they were put in a position of having to appoint well especially in light of the absences from WCO which is considered the crown jewel of appointments because you are one that gets to choose how much grant money goes to businesses and she didn't intend and they set up the Zoom meetings and she wouldn't be available by those either. >> Well, she's not the old candidate that I said I was uh >> looking at. So, I understand your point and uh so we still have
033another candidate. So, I don't think he falls under that same if I if I uh you know from from the sounds of it, you know, things like, you know, between Jud Perry and and Robert Vander, I think the two kind of each kind of express, you know, his concerns with them. Uh, you know, looking at at Perry's resume and looking at uh Robert's uh Vander letter of intent, a lot of it matches up. They both served in the church. Uh, you know, Jud did softball at Bay City. He's a girls pitching coach for softball. uh you know, Robert helped out with the little league. You know, we talked about, you know, the STP aspect and what that can bring, but you know, I guess when I was getting off the board, you know, we deep
034down to our our CCMR credits, uh because, you know, that's something more points about business. So, you know, we went deep down into our metal trade work. Yeah, we did do that. uh make sure we were lined up with everything. Uh things like that, you know, but some of that stuff that you know that's what we pay our administrators, you know, that's what they're doing. They're they're so if that's a direction, you know, we want somebody to deep dive into we've already paid somebody to do that. You know, we have to uh remember, you know, our job is to quote supervisor, superintendent, and he puts people in place to handle those things. So, I'm sure he's got somebody in place checking into that CCMR kind of things. Now, up for new ideas. Yeah, of course.
035You always got to keep your eyes open, things like that. I mean, some schools are doing truck driving school because they know that's what kids are going to go do. Look where we live at. Wharton, a lot of truck drivers here. Uh, what stand out to Robert about me is he's helped the Wharton community. Uh, he has kids in the Wharton community. his kids graduated from his his family is born invested and I think out of anything that should hold some weight uh you know that that's important to people especially coming in just to serve for a little while tissue just to serve a little while uh you know of course you know and he'll run for re-election or whoever will run for reelection I just think for this nine months, you know, get somebody
036in here that's familiar with this community and the kids in the community. I I know Judge. I know Judge from softball. I've never seen Jud come out to the little league park, to softball park, high school park. Uh he's a pitching coach. I'm sure he probably coaches some of our girls in pitching. But, uh, as far as just volunteering, willing to help our kids, I hadn't seen it in the places that I, uh, not saying he doesn't do it, uh, I got my hands on a lot of stuff. I just hadn't seen it. And I talked to him, too. And when they're working on junior high, you know, he message on Facebook all the time, and, you know, he was real good about, you know, if he sees something and, you know, he'll say something,
037whoever the message, things like that. Uh, you know, he lives across the street, so he sees it every day. He's going to see stuff that a normal human being rides by not going to see cuz he's watching everything build up. But I just think, you know, the invested time that Vander and his family have put in this community, uh, his kids going through the school, his grandkids going through the school, son-in-law is going through the school. U to me that holds weight. You know, I think he's invested in his community. He's invested in his kids. And I think that that carries way. >> That live here. Is he from here? >> No. on his what they were speaking of was he was coached in Bay City. He worked in South Texas became but then since
038he's been here look at the number of years of service whether it be in the church or whatever that he has done. Now I'll be the first one to tell you I graduated from Martin High School. My daughter graduated from Martin High School. She's 42. So, I don't have any kids in in the high school or any school. I don't think because I'm 78 that that should disqualify me from being on the board. >> Jerger, you've been through the system. But see the thing that I think many people miss they and I think this is perfectly fine but it's not really what school board is about and that is how close you are to the kids. We're dealing with a $24 million budget. No kid is going to be able to do that. Correct. Jud
039has done this is for the kids. That's why has done the budgeting and making sure that project stays on budget. Um that is the b business manager part of things is what and efficiency and what are outcomes. The thing that in fact the board is supposed to be doing or what judge seems to me to want to accomplish. He seems to be more mature. I've researched both online but more about having I'm not even deal with Google because I have I'm actually think probably you know their kid gets in trouble. every day. I just got to remember he asked where the school is about the children that community leadership >> I had bookkeeping experience through college years I had a with a lot of different >> when when I say kids in the district, you
040know, I look at as a interest because I have kids in the district. >> My best interest is for the kids and make sure the kids are successful at the end, not just my kids. It's everybody's kids. And so when I say that and I look at it in two different scopes, big school districts, Houston, people that lived in Houston 20 years ago in Houston, it's different with us rural people because we're more prideful. Uh, you know, like like coach Hadd's doing restore the war. That means something to me because I played for the war. It's not going to mean anything for nobody that played. They could care less. You know, you have a sense of pride. You have a sense of red, white, and blue. It's that that's what I mean of best vested
041interest. Like you said, you and your daughter. It means something when you walk through those halls. You have memories. You know, you feel something. You feel a way about it. And and it makes you I got to make sure this stays up. I got to make sure gets to where it needs to be. You have that kind of interest. Not saying a person that doesn't have that can't get that, but sometimes when it's just deep inside, it's easier to pull out of you because of that. >> Can I say something? So, we we picked Coach Hatock because of his leadership skills as well. Even though he's not from this district, he came in with those leadership skills and sort of, you know, >> as well as a member, you're not as a And I when
042you hire an administrator, that's what you do for that. But as a city board member, that's got to be somebody from this community. Uh so, you know, you're not necessarily you can't you can't you can't weigh those apples and oranges. Like I understand like because of his leadership, but you're hiring this person paying him a lot money to do something where this is a a volunteer position because somebody can say I don't have leadership, but I got voted on. But just because just because somebody says that doesn't mean I don't have it. Everybody looks at leadership different ways, different qualities of leadership. Who's a leader to you might not be a leader to the person sitting beside you, but they find that person inspirational and that's how they want the leadership to look. Leadership is
043it's not a thing. It's a way you do things and what somebody's looking for out of you. Um, y'all were discussing uh Jud's um leadership, right? But I'm looking at uh Mr. Vander and I see that he has 17 years on the word literally board. Is that not uh plus towards his leadership as well? Does that not give him some type of >> It does. I certainly wouldn't take that away from it. But there is a huge difference between South Texas nuclear project running a budget there and little >> correct because of the >> you know because one of and I think we probably I have board members that have told me in private these big numbers confuse me. The last thing we need is to be confused about budget and operation numbers are big.
044But you know the thing with so many times people depend totally on the administration to do and provide everything for you. Okay? And most of the time you can trust it. But believe me, I've been in situation where every month's financial statement was progress. It had no more uh accuracy in reality than nothing. And to the point we ended up having half million dollars stolen before we realized something was not going on that was right. Okay. So the And then you can look here at WISD in the past years, you heard their own years not that long ago that instead of getting 1.5 million in the red, we were 2.5 million in the red. So the the thing is in my mind that is a very serious issue and you know when people come up
045and say well you need to go to school and brief kids every morning that is my job and if and if that's what the public think being a school board member is they make a huge mistake. I don't think that that's what the public thinks that a student board member is as far as the need, but I think that a lot of the community people want to see the people who are sitting on the school board active around the kids and that's just the norm. I I'm speaking from a parent's perspective because I am a parent and before I got here on the school board, I was looking for board members when we were going to these different events that they had at school or they were hosting different, you know, events at the school
046because then they let me know, oh man, they really do care about the community. Oh, it's good to see them. Even if it was just a poppy, they popped in, you know, wave, heard a few names, clap, and then end up leaving. it did something to me and it made me know that okay we care about the kids but just to get off of that because I don't even want to go down that rabbit hole. Um we're we're talking about uh the candidates that we're we're looking to put somebody here in this chair. If we can't come up with a a clear uh person or a choice we don't have to select anyone correctly. >> Okay. [Music] Well, President I think he used the word stole stole money. >> It was >> I would I
047would >> s I'm talking about not here. They did steal it because they got pro. >> I'm glad you had I'm doing okay. You came close to pushing my butt cuz I live that nightmare. Do you want to go back in the opening session? >> I'm ready. >> We haven't resolved anything. Have we eat? Well, we can't we can't pick, but I I think >> I think coming out of here is to our advantage. If we can agree on person rather than have to go through that process of going to each candidate and what have you, it would look better to me in the public if we can actually come to a conclusion or compromise on out of these four candidates. That's just my you know, however long it takes. I agree. >> My my
048personal feeling is when we come out, I would just like to say, "Okay, this is the person that we decided to to roll with." >> Yeah. So, otherwise otherwise what I could see happening is that we come out of here the same way we came in and that's going to put the district Well, the attorney explained that to us about what kind of position that puts us in. So, uh, that's just my two cents >> and and we had it that it shows that we're united and and you know, we're not going to vote for three people have one or two votes per person if you know. >> Oh, so please. I I just was going to say, you know, uh on your comment about school finance, uh you know, as a board member, you
049know, it's kind of we got to do our due diligence and go to a school finance class. Uh you know, I think, you know, uh when I first got board, you know, MST got board, you know, she used to, you know, run a business and one thing she said is, you know, she thought that, you know, a budget was a budget. Well, school finance, you know, when you have an accountant, you got accountants for school and you got accountants for everything else. That accountant for everything else ain't crossing over to school. It's completely if what what you think it is, it's like everything's coded so messed up and things. So, you know, when you're talking about judge uh judge, you know, deal with a budget, not saying it's not helpful. I mean, I deal with
050a budget, too. I work for textile. We got projects everywhere. But it's a whole different putting everything out of which pot goes and which pot it comes out of. It's completely different with school stuff. And you know, you just have to it's almost like not retaching yourself, but you kind of got to go through a couple different classes to see what's going on and what's supposed to be coded when. That's how you start catching stuff because a lot of times the school get in trouble because they had something coded on. You know, you should be making as many amendments as you can throughout the school year and make sure money's coming out of the correct pot. that way you know you can get grants to do this and that. So you know I want to
051make sure you know that's really important as well that school finance is completely different from the rest of the that's true but it is a board member's responsibility to at least understand that. >> Right. Right. That's why I say they have lots of frames to understand that. >> So he's saying anybody can come in and get the training that they need to be able to understand. I I will say it is still a little bit I have difficulties understanding it a little bit but if you have somebody who has a background in project management that used to ignorance budgets like that who might be able to catch it a little bit quicker than somebody who doesn't have the background >> and stuff changes so much you know that that's why I take you know some
052of this training serious and you know split Things change every year. So if you're not getting a refresher every year, you get behind and like, "Oh, why don't you do that like that?" Oh, no. They changed that. It It's stuff changes so much in the school uh setting and how you do things with the budget or where money is supposed to come from. You got to stay on top of it and equipped. It's not nothing you're going to learn overnight. It's not nothing if you stop learning, you're going to continue to know what's going on. It's going to change on you. >> Okay. Let's do this. >> Can we if I were to go down the road and ask if you have preference you would go for we can see if we have any similarity.
053>> Maybe we should not have somebody. >> Yeah. Camp Robert. >> Okay. Under those circumstances, is there anybody willing to move off of that? >> No, this is what I I see band actually as a >> as as compromise by all these u applicants. I mean, you know, there's some strong uh consideration for for Perry. Um, you know, uh, despite Alice, you know, she's lost a couple elections. I think the the city council elections are a lot different from our school board elections in my opinion. Uh, that uh, you know, not showing up. I I think she showed up council meetings. the other organization she was on. I don't know um what what her issue was. Uh but I I uh I think she explained that I I've seen some information where uh she's explained
054what that situation was. So uh with that said, you know, with that said, I just see uh Vanderbri as you know a compromise. Otherwise, I can see we coming out of here and the same situation that we're going to be in that we were in before we got here. >> But the use of her be I know none of them personally. So, I'm not basing my opinion on just because I know somebody, >> you know what I mean? based on what I see on the background. So just put that out for me. It's normal. I guess I haven't seen him in a board meeting, but that's like I said, we're probably two different circuits. You know, I have children and grandchildren. A lot of people still say that they don't know me even though I
055think somewhere else. So, you know, if you just don't get out >> and and some of the the reason some of the the people I I know Robert, I've asked some other people that are know, you know, a little bit better than I do and they were all in support of Robert. >> For Robert, thank you. So we go out to vote. Yes. Nominate one vote for that first. You got to have >> four. I could have swore that we were talking. We were talking about exception that uh application for all the seat as we were going to build them down to like the final two and then go from there and wasn't that something we discussed in the last two >> we said three So now >> I think we have two because it
056seems like what Perry and >> Vinegar >> Van were. >> Yeah, but it's still got >> Okay. tot than I believe the way I'm understanding it is >> I have somebody's got we we got to support one person four people have to support one >> somebody just what we could do when we go out is potentially say, "We want to ponder this a little bit longer, not make any changes." Or we could go out and say, "Well, we're going to extend the application to >> which I'm going to have to tell you, to me personally, that's not fair because everybody got theirs in within a 7 day period of time." And that just makes it more of a comeback and >> do this whole thing again. So, so I wouldn't say open it back up.
057I say, you know, maybe we call those two people in and let them tell us about themselves. [Music] >> Yeah. I think if we come to if we come to that listen to that like not trying to sway nobody's opinion but you know as a school board member we should have open opinions and you know they might say something that oh I didn't know that about you you know something that's not on this paper or what's going on you know it might I mean like I said we got to get forward so some somebody got somewhere >> well now just clarification let's say that if we invite man and Mr. Mhm. >> Would y'all interview them or want to interview them in executive session? >> I I would do it. >> It would have to
058be done in an open session. That's what the lawyer said last night. >> But I I would do it and open so the public can hear as well. >> That sounds fine. At least >> so. So, are you going to be are you going to let the public back? >> We're going to have to make a motion when we get out that the board is going to interview these two finalists. >> Are you going to say their name or >> Yes. [Music] Mr. >> Could you call her? She know. Yeah. [Music] Yes, ma'am. This is how you >> I'm fine. Thank you, ma'am. The the board will would like to tell you about their deliberation. >> Okay. Okay, Michelle. Uh we have come up say we've got two pelvis who we would like to invite
059for we'll call it public interview at upcoming meeting and uh we're getting ready to go back into open session and we'll need to make a motion. Now, obviously, we're going to have to name the two. I'm going to use the term finalist and um the invitation will be sent out to the superintendent's office to have them attend when we set date. >> Yes. Can I do that quickly and call that? >> Sure. [Music] the proper [Music] You know, I think that you know, it's just something person on paper, you know, I can see their character, their f your posture. At some point in time, we need to send thank you notes to the two >> that are no longer in contention. Yeah. and do that on behalf of we call the two set time and
060then you tell the other two thank you for your interest A lot of Christian The night [Music] billion. [Music] Sorry. [Music] session administrative stuff and you know we can do send a message now to send the Oh, she's coming to send you draft to my email so that you have it on file. Yes, >> I would say and I hope the board can hear me, but to make a motion I believe that the board invited by the board. Yes, ma'am. >> It'll be scheduled at a later date. How about How about I move that the board authorize the superintendent to invite X and Y to be interviewed by the board at a future public meeting to be scheduled at a later date? >> Yes. >> Does that sound okay? >> That sounds okay. >> All
061right. Yes, we'll put him in there. >> Okay. And then if you get authority, then you've got the authority to do that. >> Thank you so much, ma'am. >> Okay. And I'll be here. Anything else? Let me know. >> Thank you, ma'am. >> Thank you. Bye. >> One of you have to make this motion. So what is it? >> I'll authorize the superintendent to contact Robert and Doug Perry to be interviewed by the board that decided on a later date. I think >> Okay, open session. [Music] She's saying this wonderful [Music] Okay. Incorrect. Yes. Yes. >> And our first item personnel is consideration of hostile action of new hire administrative contract. Superintendent of the board trustees. It is my recommendation that the board approve miss as the junior high professor. [Music] >> Motion's been made
062and seconded. All in favor indicate by saying I. >> All opposed. Motion passes unanimously. Congratulations. opportunity. I'm here to serve community. trustee also my recommendation that the board approve Dr. McCoy as the assistant All in favor motion pass. Congratulations. Thank you for giving me opportunity. I'm here to support community. I'm here. >> Congratulations. items considering appointment. I make a motion for two contact for interview. All in favor indicate by saying I. All opposed. Motion passed unanimously. >> I'll pass. Is there a motion? All in favor indicate by saying I >> all motion passes. Thanks so much for joining us tonight. Monkey said,