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Board Meeting 11/28/2023

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YouTube / CSDtv Canyons District
Date
2023-11-29
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Salt Lake County, UT
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30,869 words · about 172 min
Collected
2026-06-09

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001Board of Education today is November 28th 2023 and we're meeting at the district office located at 9361 South 3 in and I would like to excuse Mont he is not here in person but he is online so just know I think he's there he was there he's there no you you don't need to be excuse me I'm just here not there don't voice it's not the saying M you want a face there we go okay the first item on the agenda is the foundation board annual report by Denise hok um Foundation development office here thank you it's a pleasure to be with you again this year and today's the perfect day for the foundation to be here because how many of you know what today is Tuesday Tuesday yes so um it's a pleasure to

002let you know what the foundation has been up to and what we've been working on we're truly grateful for all of the cash and in kind ofs that we get in and are able to get back to our students and teachers tonight I have with me um our board president Fred Lowry and we're going to share the presentation together tonight so I'll let Fred start and then we'll just kind of tag team through the presentation thank you Denise and we appreciate being here to be able to report on what we've been doing I guess my first question is Mont you have shorts on right now you do you want to [Laughter] say why would I not on the foundation board want support and he is a great addition to the board as we talk about

003the Education Foundation just real quickly you know our elevator speech is our whole mission is to enhance the educational experience of the students of the Canyon school district and that's through providing support to the students and to the teachers and it's really a privilege to be able to a part of this board um the support that the district provides is amazing and we sincerely appreciate the support that you provided and kind to give you an idea of the board members we have 23 board members right now you see their names we the ex officio members is cons consists of mon the the coordinators within the school district and then of course Dr ribon Susan Edwards and Denise he coock and then maril Lee is the glue there of that Foundation team and so I I

004want to give a shout out the way provide the support and the guidance is is Du and you don't have a better director of An Education Foundation she doesn't amaz idea we have our executive board here with land bill John Martell brat snow and and then board we are hopeful we have four other new board members that we'll be adding in January you know this is quite a diverse for the great professionals and leaders and they're committed uh we have great attendance with our board meeting so one of the the main we to help raise money and funds and Denise does a great job keeping control of all that does a great job of keeping track of my finances um so I want to just say my board is amazing I love the people who

005are on our foundation board um they show up they give back um and they get others to participate as well so we want to talk about the funds that we get in basically Rick said to me sent a little text like got a lot on the agenda let's keep it quick tonight and I wasn't sure if he was saying that because I sometimes say that to him when he's presenting but um I could just say you know we raise money and we give it back to kids and to teachers but we'll go into a little more detail so cash donations that we get in um [Music] ways from private donors we have Partnerships and advertising that sus and handles that piece of it for us community and business donations and then we're always looking for

006Grants where we can kind of help build that up we have received some grants over this past year from Walmart from kinot from Church of Jesus Christ to Latter Day Saints so those cash donations we can put in some of them have very specific um ways that we have to use fun and others leave it more unrestricted where we can use them as need the big one is these inine donations that we get in and that's a pretty good number for in kind donations over 236,000 so that's coats hats that's a lot for coats and hats and food but we also get in cars for automotive departments or musical instruments um so things that the schools can use those are also considered in kind donations so the foundation is an Avenue for people to give

007get a tax write off for their donation whether it's cash or any kind donation so we help facilitate that for the schools as well we do have an endowment fund that we're trying to grow we're kind of a slow and steady when it comes to Growing our fund we give 10% of our annual fundraising into back into our endowment fund so we grow that a little bit up to 20,000 a year um so that's where our endowment fund is has been a little volatile so we're you know it's kind of going up and down but we did make money last year even with the way the stock market was the scholarship endowment fund is for some scholarships at Jordan high school so our total assets as of June 30th is 1,453 the other way that

008we bring bring in money is our fundraising events so the golf tournament is I think my favorite fundraising event and I like to think that we have a stellar golf tournament at this point we have people who um are sad that they don't get to come to our golf tournament it fills up quickly it sells out every year we have increased the revenue year after year after year so um during covid actually we were able to play both courses and we made over $100,000 in our golf tourament during Co so last year it was 89,000 this year it was 96,000 that money goes right back out to the teachers with Innovation grants so that's what our golf tournament is for we do our Gayla last year we switched it up a little bit we decided

009to have our Gaya at cpre and Draper um we seem to really like the look and feel of it it really gave our scholarship winners a lovely event to attend so we're going to do it at SRE again this year typically make between 60 and $70,000 at a Gaya um in our Gaya this last year we did a dessert Dash that those of you were there you might remember that that brought in $7,000 just from so it's just another kind of fun way that we raise money this year's Gayla is going to be a masquerade theme and we're looking at um either unmasked the champion or behind every mask of a champion because we're going to focus on Unified sports so part of the money that we raised will go back to help that program

010as well as our scholarship winners then every year we do um donation drives so our back to school donation drives um this year we did some donation drives with other districts uh Channel 13 channel four we all combined together got our donations and then we split them amongst the districts it's always good to collaborate with the other foundations in the area we had a big donation drive from L peek hospital we were part of their 10year anniversary celebration they gave us probably over $4,000 worth of items for Their donation Drive in some smaller companies little um tatoos in Midville it's a little coffee shop highly recommend it they are the funnest group of people I went to pick up the bin of school supplies they had 12 bins so just the people in Midville gave

011and then Trace scos gave it to us they've already contacted me like what can we do for Christmas so I love these little companies that are helping the Larry H Miller automo Automotive gr Costco gives us between three and 500 backpacks every year lots of other local businesses run little donation drives for us we appreciate that so much there's also Day of Service donation drives um many of the churches around uh the different Wards we had the Evangelical Free Church Mountain View Christian Church they did donation drives for us for back to school as well and um or for Day of Service and that brought in boxes and boxes and boxes of coats and school supplies and so our gathering for good is an employee based donation Drive where we have the employees have an

012opportunity to give back to the students um in Canyon's district and we also do it when we have our gathering for good meal be December 7th so for the future I already told you the Gaya for next year it will be on March 28th so it's a little earlier so please get that on your calendar because we want to have you there um oh I forgot to talk about the fun run this year we did a fun run it was called Run For the Love of Education it was not our biggest Money Maker was only brought in 3,000 participation was down we think it's we didn't have have a pig we didn't have Tut we didn't have a fun marketing thing we were just run for the level of Education apparently people want something more

013so we're going to do an in-person fund run this year it will be our first time attempting that um it will be May 4th um we're gonna start the run at Jordan High School we're working out the particulars but we think that will also be another fun activity then we've got um either an author or a literacy event or a tech event so we talked about this in our last board meeting some of us went up to another foundation's author knite the big event they bring in a famous author and so our board kind of was like we'd like to do something like that but we don't want to do something exactly like that so we're looking at making a change and offering a new type of event that really gets the school district involved

014the students involved the teachers whether it's to bring up reading School or for Tech so we're going to work together and collaborate with the district on what that new event will look like that's something we're looking at for next on how we give all that money that we raise back to I think one of the things that's surprising to me as I've been on the board as you talk to people in the community they have no idea the needs District just what got us is this Prem District but when they hear about some of the need in Hess it's amazing I think that's one of our biggest missions is getting that word out talk about the endowment fund I just need to mention one of our goals is to get that endowment fund to a

015size that it will help support scholarships and things in a way that it will just help self fund that's an ambitious goal we're going to get there so some of the things and how we give the the resource closet and I think the niece left one of these cards for you that you can see us lot of items that can the resource closet if you have an opportunity you should go and see the resource claic that's here on the property it's h it's amazing all of the products there those are the things let's talk about what we give to the students we have the resource closet we have the holiday support there's roughly about $25,000 in gift cards that we'll be giv out the students um for Christmas and hopefully there'll be more added to

016that as the high schools out we going home back to school night the Utah college application month that's where we will help fund uh the students to pay for their applications for scholarships and then the scholarships that we give out last year it was 16,000 in right star and Rising Star scholarships we've actually increased those scholarship amounts to try to help make them more meaningful then Denise has done a great job in facilitating private colge scholarships we have the the support to the stem summer camp scholarships and then 529 colge now in helping our Educators the what we have done I think one of our greatest and funnest things is the fund bus that many of you participated with us on this last year we gave out 99 5,000 in Innovation grants the thing that

017I think's awesome it's over 1.1 million now in Grants that we've given to the teachers the donors chew we it's over 32,000 that we've given but what is neat about this is this is another awesome thing that Denise does is she watches the opportunities when we can match and so so really that 32,000 over 87,000 in helping the teacher 200 classroom projects then of course I one of my favorites is this teacher of the Year Awards where we give out the $15,000 in cash prizes um that one is inspiring to meet someone that's the outside that you really see all featurers and the way they're invested it's you can't help but feel the and then of course the new teacher event that we do at the beginning of the year and help getting these new

018teachers excited about being part of can and then last this new scholarship that we're starting to promote the ace scholarship and helping promote High School seniors or other employees that are within the County School District want to become Educators that scholarships available to help them in getting their education to become teachers and so those are some of the ways that we're giving I'm excited about where we're at um I feel like we got new energy I point out with donut choose that 32,000 was just for last fif school year we've given out over $300,000 in donut Cho projects so um for the lifetime of that so we do fund a lot of teachers um for a lot of their projects and they are appreciative I did bring some of these in so I get the

019fun notes I get the cards from kids and from the teachers saying thank you so much for funding our project I just got this email this teacher just CAU her boxes in for the Innovation Grant and she's jumping up and down because she just got her Innovation Grant boxes so she's yeah you can show those if you want there I just wanted to kind of let you know the teachers are appreciative of what we're doing and Denise can we add too like that resource closet if you're just wondering impact well it's been over 350 students since the beginning of the school years received items from it is an amazing and that is in collaboration with um our state and federal programs our community school facilitators and so Michelle Vogler and I got together I said

020I have this and she has that and we're like why don't we just have a place where if there's a need we go and get it it doesn't have to be for Title One schools or schools that we say are on the bubble when we get donations in we want to be able to share them out unless some restriction on it and we we're getting it down it's getting organized and we're very proud of that some new things that happened last year was that we did get a nice Grant from The Church of Jesus Christ of latterday Saint we got $10,000 for Di vouchers and $10,000 for the bishop storehouse so that allows us to give families in need some fresh food and some groceries get them through a crisis time for like a couple

021weeks that was huge and our families are very appreciative of that um they also gave us $116,000 for mental health so they're helping fund our mental health screening nights we have a current Grant out with them um to fund Wellness rooms in our secondary schools and it's passed the first phase and it's almost past the second phase so if that happens they will fund a wellness room for each one of our secondary schools so that's pretty amazing I've been working on these very closely with BJ and with Brian the Ron McBride Foundation is a new one that we have this year um Shar kind of connected us in with Ron McBride we're like we see you giving to all these other school districts you know what about Canyons they're big on after school programs so

022they did award Union a $5,000 after school program Grant but they got were in the door and they said apply for more next year we know we need more so that's good the a scholarship it's an employ employe funded scholarship so the employees were asked to give part of their paycheck back a dollar $2 whatever you could manage out of your paycheck to help a fellow employee become an educator so we like that where it's an employee helping employees or a high school student who wants to become an educator this year um first year out we've got about $155,000 to work with I'm gonna get that match by a donor I haven't picked that donor yet but I'll find him um so we we should be able to about some good uh college scholarships and

023we're also looking at possibly funding teachers that want to get their master's degrees and move up in their education Unified sports is something new that we're covering so been working with Linda on this and that is such a fun program all the other foundations around the Salt Lake Valley are supporting Unified sports so we wanted to get involved and help with that as well they need uniforms they need the tournaments um you know the lunches and it is such a feel-good program to be part of so thank you Linda for getting me involved in that we're very happy to support that the mental health screening nights again that's what we're working on with BJ and Brian and the church and then the foundation has taken over facilitating the DI and the bishop storehouse vouchers for

024the entire District so for the Medicaid Outreach worker for the facilitators it all runs through the foundation now which makes it easier for our donor and then people call all the time how can I pay off the lunch Dent for Canyons I'm like do you really want to do that do you know how much it is once I tell them the amount then they say no I like to give you a thousand so very easy umel just got our new um donate page up today it's gone live where they can now just go click on it and select and say I want to donate to help pay for lunches at ex school and they can donate and help cover some of those fees so our new donate page has where they can just pick I

025want to give to mental health I want to give to scholarships I want to give here and we can direct the funds where they want them so we've retained 22 of our board members we got new One Credit Union um on to we have um sence and L Peak Hospital um and a couple other ones that will be coming on board in January I will send that list to you we're also going to be making some changes to our executive board so I'll send that to you in January for your we continue to collaborate with the community facilitators the Communications Department for helping us do podcasts and get out articles and information about what the foundation is doing Foundation works very closely with lot departments in Canyon school district nutrition Transportation um we're just here

026to help any way we can um we continue to engage with businesses and increase Community I Happ to give a special shout out to the external relations department because with a team of Denise I'm the only full-time employee of the foundation the external relations department make it so I can do all that I do with financials graphic design video podcast event support and web page management I'm truly appreciative of so that's us did I go fast enough for and we're we're proud to be able to serve the district in this way and um thank job ever any question I will try and make it quick thank you by the way for everything you've done Denise during the five years I've been here I've seen the foundation expand and grow so much [Music] leadership it's amazing

027um I just have a quick question I was approached by the teacher with this idea that I had nevered before she shared a podcast with me that came out of New York of an idea where a foundation there had funded what they referred to as Innovation grants for teachers so rather than um receiving classroom items or like it actually funded a teacher to be able to have additional time to focus on some sort of innovation in their teaching or and that these teachers part of the time was that they would come together and they would collaborate and share their ideas and work off of each other and go back to the home schools and share what they were learning with the other teachers what they saw was all of the um across the board any

028school that had one of these teachers in their schools every classroom actually benefited until scores increased and they saw a lot of amazing things come out of that she said do you think something like this is ever possible and Brook and I had a conversation about he said I don't know maybe through the foundation maybe that's something she I don't know if anything like that has ever been floated or considered but that's something as a board member I think would be really amazing and exciting to see because I I absolutely love the fun bus and I love seeing those grants go out and seeing those teachers speak so excited but I think there is something to be said that when a teacher time um is paid for for them to dig deeper on quality teaching

029practices and maybe doing something that's Innovative and out of the box it could really excite and Elevate their classroom and those around them is that a conference that they're attending where they come together I mean who how's that being organized so that they they have like I don't know as a group they come I mean Karen and I have talked about that we have so I mean don't know the details yeah I can send you the podcast and and share with you it would take a rewrite of our bylaws because we have in our bylaws we do not cover any um anything like so it would take a foundation board vote to make a change to the bylaws I did have another thing came out of the superintendent listening tours like I fund full-time teachers

030from donors choose but there's brain boosters and there's technicians and they have ideas as well but can I start going down that road interes you know so so principles are waiting in and we're happy to look at changing the way we do things and including more things um but we do bring it before the board we do a board vote and and then we can move forward from there so I'm happy please share any ideas with me and we'd be happy to look at that you know another thing that we're trying to figure out we provide these Innovation grants to the teachers but one of the biggest needs right now is also the C yes that's true so we're trying to figure out what type of innovation Grant we can for the counselor that provide

031them that support it's a little different the tools that they need the wellness rooms help provide there's got to be I can just from an outside Observer that those counsel was really thank you Denise we appreciate your work and I want to second I've seen since I've been on years is amazing has his hand anyway because I remember when like $100,000 and I mean just to see how much money I mean it is really amazing I appreciate your work and I see the Mr millerberg would like to say something I guess I should unmute before I say anything right I just want to add to what uh Denise said that to me it is just absolutely the best assignment a board member could have to work with the people on the foundation and one thing

032that I don't think is brought up enough is how the foundation works so hard to build and uh maintain relationships with our business Community inside of our district because we have many Business Leaders we have many uh Civic leaders that are on the board for the uh foundation and that filers out through the rest of our community and does an awful lot to uh keep us connected inside of the community um the other thing about uh the fun bus and the uh Innovation grants this year was especially uh touching to me that as I'd been out in the schools uh people would come up to me and say I need to do this and I'd like to do this and this and this in my classroom and in two cases I just turned to him

033says have you ever thought about applying for an innovation Grant and they looked at me kind of uh like they were surprised you know they hadn't really thought of that as an option and in both cases they received an innovation Grant which I thought wow this stuff really does work and it was really great to see those people that I talked to apply follow through and make it happen so yeah it's a absolutely the best assignment any board member can can have and Amber don't think about taking you away okay okay I'm just kid thank you m we appreciate you being on that so okay thank you so much both of you okay now we're gonna go on to Item B which is 2022 2023 annual comprehensive financial report and that'll be presented by Leon

034Wilcox who this administrator little slow today sorry thank you Julie chill uh just to give you a great great app every year we are required under law toep some year and financial statements so to tell our story from the fiscal year have to have that audited by an external firm which we did the audit committee which we have so a or Andrew Amber have anything to say they can then we just present this to you and then we ask that uh you you approve what we call the act for the annual comprehensive financial report I'll just call it the act for and we have a few related audit reports that they also have to complete under state law that uh are out there on the board docs so we just ask you to approve those

035on the consist agenda during the business meeting uh I'm sure everyone read all pages yes and understood every bit of every page and so if not we can just start with page one I know Rick says we need to be in a hurry but so what what I've done here is just pulled out quite May four or five pages that I think are the most crucial of the to give you an idea where we're at where our balances were at as of June 30th this past year so and then coming right this is just a start right here on page 26 but this is our balance sheet so it gives us all our assets what we have our liabilities what we owe and then what's left is our our balance our fund balance our total

036fund balance at the end of the year I'm just going to use round is just just under $71 million uh which is pretty good but it's broken up into a few things that we can use it for and can't use it for just want to review those really quickly we under state law we can sit upside 5% of our fun of our balance or next year's expenses as a so somewhat of a rainy day fund if you will that's about $18 million right there sorry about buying we also have what we call gby money that we owe to about 350 employees are still working and a bunch more who have already retired who are receiving these payments that's and then we also have to account for any vacation that's been earned but hasn't been paid

037out so that's about $10 million we also had about a bunch of several open POS at the end of the year that stuff just hadn't got in here that's about $1.8 million and then you know money that the schools haven't spent out of their annual allocations their budgets the textbook supplies we let them carry that over we don't let District departments carry it over but we let the schools carry it over that's about little over $4 million and then because of construction costs we had to set aside eight a total of 8 million to finish our projects and uh we used five and a half of that last year and so we still have two and a half set aside if we need it to complete projects this year uh we didn't want to do

038that but to get everything done because of cost Escala as fast as they did we had to do that so you take all those out and that leaves us with a little over $31 million that's what I would call our available money to play with or to work with uh you know that seems like a lot of money but that's not even one month's worth of expansive for us so I like to say we're about one month ahead of the game is how we are so so that's that's where we're at there uh but you can see again 71 it has it did go down we'll go over here to this next slide here also this is our Capital balance as I said we also to complete everything we had to draw that down as

039well you know and so we're down to just about $2 million there uh we always talk about so this going over to page 30 on the book but we always talk about our budget and then what so that's what few that the board approved but we also want to compare to see how did we actually compare to that budget what actually happened so so you have your original budget that we did in that would have been in June of 2022 that you approved the final one in June of 2023 not a whole lot then what actually happened then the difference here is is the variance just a couple things to point out here uh start with number one here we were you know in our struction we want as much as the money going right

040to the classroom as we can so we have 60% of our budget going right to into the classroom your kids and teachers see the other categories that we've gone over over there as well uh and you can see what we how much we were under budget we were just under $2 million under budget that's about half a per that's kind of typically where we're at our budgets which is good but uh the issue is for us is you know we actually spent more than we brought in that's a problem you know we know you do that in your house it's a problem when you do that in business it's a problem do entity so that's the issue that we have we actually spent about 2.8 million more than we brought in you know we alleviated

041some of that because we had and then we have some transfers here that went out but some of our transfers again we had to transfer out five and a half million to Capital you know complete little projects we kept bring in which we did 2.2 million from our debt to for technology purposes there's a law that passed four or five years ago that helps us with that so that helps us offset that then a little bit out cost so there's where our net decrease was that's our net decrease and so our fund balance was 7 was a you know you throw in all these transfers it was 77 million went down to 71 million so that's a that we'll have to look at Rectify big part of that was that transfer route for the capital

042that's what we'll have to as we go forward and we look at start looking at 25 budget we'll have to do that the big reason is this these here I think I think we showed you showed you this this is what we presented when uh amber and Mand went up presented to the Republican caucus we showed in this slide here is theion cost see how much we spent I'll say last year in 22 and you know and natural gas electricity sewer water maintenance parts and how much we how much inflation C this past year so we spent 700,000 more in just to heat our buildings it's big we probably saw that own build right he sold 200,000 more just getting parts to fix our elevators and our boilers and everything else was 600,000 so all

043that that difference there and also this year I mean last year keep in mind we reduce the registration fee at the schools so we' always use this excess reg part of that registration fee to help balance out the fee waivers since we didn't have that we had to cut checks out right here to the schools to balance out the fee waivers which is part of the state law and that was another 400,000 so all those add up to us so that's you know something that we'll have to look at as we go for just uh one bit of good news we know we have our we have all our operating expenses in one Pi but we pot but we also have our insurance cost in another one and we actually had a good year on

044insurance we uh uh this past year we spent about a million dollars Less in claims in Insurance costs and prescriptions and cost so that was good so we increased our balance from about 15 and a half up to 16 and a half which is nice again we like to keep about four months of four to five months of insurance cost available I mean balance there for claims in case we have something big hit we are actually having a pretty good year this far on insurance we always knock on wood because that can change dramatically if we have a few accidents or big claims like that so that's something we always do last slide just uh let's just giv their taxable values that we have as a district you probably everybody probably saw this in their

045own homes again taxes on a calendar year basis right so in 2021 everybody's home value was 19.3 billion that jumped up to 25.2 billion 30% increase in just one year everybody saw that in their own homes right so big jump there we didn't have that many more homes built you can see I didn't Circle it but you can see you know commercial went up about a billion which is good and soal billion total is good that helps stabilize things but just a more this is more informational than anything but it's interesting that to jump that much you can see where it started in just T coming out of the recession in 2013 now it's two home values there anyway uh you haven't read the act for something to do over Christmas that is there any

046questions or I'll let Mont Andrew Amber if you have any comments any comments I don't think we do thank you I have none thank you appreciate that on he said he didn't oh said he had one okay our next item is our employee daycare discussion and that will be presented by Steve Diamond Director of Human Resources thank you very much for the opportunity to work on this project it's been a concern of mine for over two decades and I really appreciate some of our folks coming so we have Emily and Brooke and Janet from CTE who also helped with this project as well as Tom because there is an impact that would occur on some of the ideas to our CTE ECE featers as well as to the buildings to our high schools So currently

047Jordan High School is has the only operating Early Childhood child care training center in the district and it only serves employees in the district and their children there are six infants and 25 toddlers And it all depends upon the square footage of how many children you can have in one of these centers currently we have eight employees who are working at Jordan High School Center the operational cost last year was $130,000 to operate 115,000 for benefits 6,000 for Food Supplies utilities and maintenance all of this has to be able to whatever the whatever's char Ed parents has to fund the program So currently the operating rate so for option one which is 5 days a week all day they're paying $650 for infants $550 for toddlers those are individ the children who are uh potty

048trained there are a number of factors regarding whether or not uh there's the feasibility of Early Childhood care training centers would be feasible in the district employee interest we'll cover that uh physical space operational cost Staffing ratios uh personnel and daycare licensing I have learned more in the last three months about child care than I have learned from the last six Decades of my life it's been fascinating so we sent out a survey to 3,41 employees uh here a few about a month and a half ago uh asking if employees would be interested in having the district pursue additional daycare centers 364 of our employees responded which is really a high a high number um the first question was which High School area would be most convenient or accessible for you the number one was

049responses was Corner Canyon with 101 responses Hillcrest with 87 but when you add the first and the second choices together then Jordan area actually came out the highest with 160 everybody else it was pretty close together the next question was select the number of children you'd be interested in having attend attended daycare center in the future ages 6 weeks to two years one child 187 responses two or more children in that same age group 40 ages three to five uh 157 and 46 for two plus there are others who don't have children in those areas but are either planning on having families or for individuals who have had children who this would have been a great benefit for them and so they responded as well one of the next questions was if you are currently

050paying child care for an infant what is the month your monthly cost optional didn't have to put it in there it went from $400 a month and that is basically it's an inhome daycare provided by a family member Grandma to uh residential or Center based the highest was $2,200 a month for one child which blew my mind away that was way higher than when I had children in daycare a long time ago uh so the median was $800 but the average was $888 per child or the next question was how much are you paying for three to five the low was 300 once again probably family high was $1600 with the average of median of 700 and the average is 745 there is a need for child care and as you've listened to the news

051with Esser mone's going away of child Care Center is closing and um if you anyone who has went to have a child and they go out trying to find daycare it is extremely difficult to find So Physical space we need approximately 2,000 square feet which covers preferably an exterior entrance check-in checkout infant area toddler preschool changing diapering station toddler and preschool bathrooms kitchen area as well in this outside playground area 40 square feet per child is what we're required to have for the outside 35 the inside we looked at lots of different places and looked a lot of different outside the box areas we looked here at Canyon's district office we looked at CTA as they move out we looked at the parking structure underneath the front of the building could we turn that in

052uh all of the high schools we looked at all their areas what places do they have Eastmont middle school ends Middle School Parklane Elementary Sprucewood every place where we went there's positives and there's negatives and there's the one thing that we have to remember is there is an impact those positive and negatives on each of those locations and what's out there so we are projecting that for additional centers it'd be approximately about $150,000 a year to oper operate depending upon the size how many children that we have salaries and benefits about 135 Food Supplies utilities maintenance um I was working with Sebastian whether or not we could use um be able to have funding to help pay for the meals that is a possibility we have to enroll the children in preschool at the school

053and do some paperwork but that would also help funds so rather than being $5 a meal it would be $2 a meal and often times they're splitting the meals in half for the little people there's you know High School lunch is a whole lot larger than what a toddler is Staffing ratios it is for infants you have to have one adult or four children there is a huge disparity the the younger the child the more supervision you need older the child less we also would need daycare manager or in the in the early childhood uh Licensing Division they call them a director a director design caregivers have to be at least 16 years of age uh with specific training student interns have to be at least 16 years of age as well as volunteers and

054all of those the training with the students would be done through our ECE program as the teachers train the students who would be able to help facilitate that does not we're not saying we still need all of the adult adults who are paid this isn't cheap labor this is to provide our students an opportunity to improve their skills and be part of the CTE program yeah just to clarify ECE is early childhood education in case you're not familiar with that acon sorry education has a few of those um job responsibilities the director the child care manager oversees the day-to-day operations ofly childhood training centers the ECE teacher provides training to their high school students allowing them to work and volunteer in the center um either during before or after school could be paid could be

055just part of their hours it all just depends of how each Center operates the CTE teacher supervises their students who to provide appropriate age instruct or appropriate instruction to the preschool age students currently our high schools have a preschool in each of those that runs for generally it's Monday Wednesday or Tuesday Thursday for like a period and usually the students that come are children from the community the rest of the time oftentimes the child care center is sitting vacant not always but predominantly so that's where the difference Comes Is Right now the CTE teacher is in the classroom with the little children as well as their students who providing this model is a little bit different it's it does not prohibit the teacher from going in and also working with the the preschool age children

056but we have a daycare manager who is actually providing a supervision to the children so it's just it's a different it's a move of cheese so it just and that is difficult as we met with our ECE teachers it they have concerns about having that not be the same as what it's been and so that's something for us to consider uh the impact that it would have on some of our programs with the high school um 2639 101 Utah child care licensing act it's a fabulous act if you ever want to read it um but it does outline all the things that we have to do to be in compliance so this is just side options timelines possibilities for consideration for next year if we were to use the preschool classrooms that are currently existing

057for our CTE ECE preschools that operate for approximately one period a day turned them into a Care Center where the students would we'd have a daycare manager our teachers would then provide the students to go in and help teach we could have a daycare center for ages two to five we don't have enough space for infants that's part of our problem is to try to find Space to cordon off for infants is extremely difficult so Corner Canyon has a smaller uh preschool room than some of our other High School schools but that's an option if we were to change the focus of how we use that space Hillcrest High School we could do the same thing but do it for children's ages two through five but needing to be potty trained Jordan High School if

058we right now they do use the preschool room that's right next to the child care center if we expand into that area we could then increase the number of students because our square footage has increased that would be an option of where we could without having to spend money on remodeling because that's where things get exceptionally pricey when we're talking about downstairs the garage we're probably probably about a million and a half dollars to turn that space into a daycare center you have many other financial needs that you're considering for the 2526 year looking to make certain that is this model functioning is this working before we roll it out any further and it may even be would it be better just to do Jordan High School and one other high school and not two

059that's just something for discussion so doing the same thing at child care center for ages two to five that are potty trained at Alta High School and also bright in high school the other piece that then has a financial impact is could we also expand a Jordan High School remodeling a different section across from where our current daycare center is so we can keep the same um playground area the playground is about $50,000 to install so if we can share that space it saves us some money but it would be in the wing that is just to the West could we take three of those classrooms and turn it into we could mirror what's on the other side and that would add so right now we have 31 students if we expand into the other

060area we probably be about closer to 40 if we did that then we'd have two infant sections for that area so it's an idea to consider but once again that is that will take s significant remodeling time frame to be able to do that another idea is when the new ctec or The Innovation Center build could we include a child daycare center in that at the same time as your building and the question would be is do students come in from the high schools to help with that what then makes us an exempt child care center or is it a standalone we that we would then have to have meet every single regulation that's out there from licensing but once again that's a huge cost um so if we were looking at the Jordan high

061school expansion into the other Wing in the spring of 2024 we probably need to start working with Architects start looking at going out for RFP it's at least a year and a half to two years out to be able to do a a major reconstruction project and I know there's lots going on and being considered for Jordan and so that would be the possibility but we wouldn't be able to go that direction um for next year it would have to be at least a year out or further same thing with with ctec so it also be hiring staff the inspections from uh the child care licensing division State risk management the health department all have to come in and sign off as well um also holding open houses I would my guess is some of

062you have had children in child care centers that you're not just going to sign your child up to send them anywhere you're going to go visit you want to know who's working there you want to make certain you feel comfortable with where you're going to leave your child for eight hours a day eight or nine so we need to have an open house registration and then hopefully being operational for that piece at the ex expanded Jordan in 2526 or 2627 it's a whole lot of information okay thank you so Bor do you have any questions or comments yeah Mrs okay so a couple of questions I have when you're talking about the different schools in the capacity I would love more information like how many students could service there how many that wasn't included in

063this report and I know like I've been to the Corner Canyon preschool space and I know they don't have very many preschool kids there and it's kind of hard because yeah and it's just for one class period so the rest of the time the kids they are preparing and decorating the walls and stuff like that so um I'm most interested when you're saying about providing child daycare with students there because we our aim is to educate I love the idea that our students are have this pathway and I wouldn't like to see it Go a different direction then as being able to continue to have the our students learn as child care Specialists and teachers um so a couple of things I have that maybe you could bring back is how many students are these

064areas currently servicing because I think that's something we need to look at some places don't have very many enrolled and then how many I think that will help us also determine where it would be best to say that you're referring to preschool age students not the high school students yeah preschool age students yes so how many are they currently serving and then and then in this report I didn't see how many could they serve we talked about the level of Interest with Corner Canyon Hill Crest and Jordan and Alta and Brighton you talked about possibly and I when you said it could be at two high schools and you said or maybe five you said Alton Brighton but then you were saying an Jordan okay explain that to me what what was that option you

065were describing was it that it would stay at the three or so the first option is continue Jordan High School expanding into the room looking at corner and Hillcrest which were the other two that had the highest interest rates interest rates interest engagement how can I say and see to see make certain that it's feasible to expand that direction the following year after that we then to look to to see could we expand at Ron high school and then also at um ala so you're looking to expand the programs at all the high schools not necessarily physically expand remodel right because of cost it's significant cost and so we're trying to keep it okay as low as what we can okay and then it's easy we can go in and calculate it's square footage it's

066square footage divided by 35 square feet per student is what's and then we just have to take out uh anything for kitchen storage or for bathrooms and so and would the end goal be that we would also advertise this to the community or would it just be for employees only I think looking at the Davis School District model so this is run in Murray Davis and also Jordan District um successfully yes Murray or Davis district has a six tier starts off with employees and then it drops down for all the way down to if employees aren't using then it can go to members of the community but there's a sequence of so that the benefit goes to our our yes employees first and then to members of the community they even had listed uh grandparents

067so it be if you if you're a grandparent and you work in their District that you have an opportunity to have a grandchild be part of that as well the community's lottery too right I believe so I don't recall that being in their in their process the tuition cost more for the community than the employees like that would be an additional benefit or no they're just so wildly popular that just the fact that they for sure get a secured spot is the most there's a huge piece of knowing that not only are you in the same building or you're close yeah and that an employee has priority where you go to a a community daycare sure it's an allout blood bath to see who can who can get in cost wise um Davis is in

068the 700s Jordan District is in the 800s we're currently for an infant in the six about 625 I do believe that we need to make some adjustments that direction but being able to to well where's Brian Brian's not here tonight Brian talked about when he was uh over another school where his child was in the daycare and he was able to go down on his lunch break feed his child pick him pick the child up after school that there's a benefit of being close and knowing that your child is well taken care of so but we just have to go through the pecking order we have uh I pulled up the manuals for both all three districts that I mentioned and I think what we do is we take and try and mimic the best

069points out of each of those that outlines those processes okay and then you mentioned the ECE had concerns is there any consideration to have the ECE be the daycare manager I will tell they will tell you no and I'll tell you why okay it is is if they do that the cost will significantly go up as well as you then they're the ones who are responsible for all of the licensing okay all of the children dealing with those issues Alpine District used to run that model yes and their ECE teachers said uhuh and so now they're currently doing what we're doing with just a preschool for a period okay and so but they our ECE teachers would be the ones training our students to help teach the curriculum the instruction for our preschool age students

070so then what were their concerns would you ladies like to address that because um some of their initial concerns were added responsibilities but we were able to help them understand that there would be a clear division um between the director and the ECE teachers um other concerns were just space of what we currently have they um were concerned that we wouldn't be able to bring in as many kids as we were hoping to just because of the size of our current spaces um I would also say some of many of them have worked really hard to build the existing programs they've put a lot of years and time into that and so that's really hard that's it's kind of their baby right to change it and say oh that's not yours anymore really is will

071be an adjustment for some of them for Char well and they love a couple of them mentioned their love of the students the presol school age students and being able to interact and work and doing some of the things where you know you do the Halloween parade at the high school with the little guys but it doesn't prohibit them from still participating in the classroom with the littles um it's just there's just a different focus of who's responsible for our toddlers in our preschools you currently they do it all they essentially do one and a half to two jobs by running the preschools with that and all the the administration that's involved in the preschool setting up the preschools um and and one of their biggest concerns is just the um the changes that are

072going to happen to do that um the the ability to work cohesively with whoever becomes the director to make it an effective teaching model for their students in the preschool and to have it become a successful experience for for theirs because right now they know that their students are getting that experience because they're directing it but when the students are going into the preschool that's under the the guidance of someone else it was a concern of theirs that are they actually getting that early childhood education experience that they want to have that makes sense thank you Brooke you were in Davis School District correct yes did you run program you ran the program so I was the the teacher yeah and we had a a full-time director of our child Center yeah and I loved

073it I was a great program and I was really passionate about it um but I do understand that our teachers have concerns it's hard to change um for sure that's a lot to consider thank you Mrs tiny yeah so for some reason I'm having trouble picturing how it interfaces with our current preschool students that I know just tend to come from the neighborhood for the couple of hours a couple of days a week and then if we were providing daycare services which likely might be every day all day do they share space um is it completely different space so the difference would be is our current preschool space that community members children come in would no longer be used for Community children it would be used for our employees children with daycare and preschool so

074they'd be receiving preschool services but it would be that the community that's kind of traditionally been able to send their kids to preschool would have to find somewhere else that's one of the or we have to provide it some other way right and by doing that we would have to have additional space a classroom to turn it into either the preschool daycare or a preschool run and it would compete as far as numbers go right we wouldn't have enough students to be in both places at once well the question would be is you have employeed children are they currently being served I don't know our understanding is it's promly Community who are coming in for a couple times each week do a followup question so I know some of those preschool specific programs that community

075members are also housed in like elementary schools and they're um they're the joint with special ed programs so have you looked at all like if we displace preschool programs at our high schools to provide daycare have you looked for alternative spaces for the preschool programs that maybe aren't even joint with special ed but so special ed I Elementary buildings or middle school working with Terry on that like at Sprucewood currently they have two uh special ed preschool that have pre or special ed students and non-s special ed students in those she's hoping to expand that uh at Sprucewood there's a third classroom that's right there in the same area to expand that um we've gone out looking at like uh Justin Jeffrey School Park Lane have a great facility problem is we'd have to move

076his kindergarten classes some other place uh to be able to use that space so it's it goes back to every place where we went there was an issue there was an impact so but I know that Terry would like to expand preschool provided their space she's also working on a different uh grant for birth to the three that I know that she's trying to work on at the moment that just barely came available for the first time in 15 years 16 years so puzzle so I understand it'll be self- sustaining based off of tuition the employees pay does that also account for making sure I mean I'm just I know how much goes into a preschool legally and otherwise like I I am would imagine our insurance costs are going to go up spe like

077significantly actually no no really working with State risk management provided that it is part of a educational program connects with CTE then it our rer covers us if it is not connected to a program and it's a standalone uh daycare center then we have to have an exterior Rider basically we Contract Services have them run it and then they have to provide additional insurance which increases our the cost to our employees so then and I would assume that it includes the overhead of what like this is going to expand part of what we have as far as Administration goes I mean like if we're running that many day centers there's a lot that goes into that so I'm guessing that that is the cost that it's also self- sustaining not a with it the daycare

078manager is the one who runs truly the day-to-day operations however the High School principles are the one on Who oversee all of the employees um working with Bruce the other night I had he called me and said what I have this issue in the daycare what do I do and it's like okay this is something I have never heard of before so let's involve Terry and Terry was able to help support us through what the issue was so have we had the opportunity to talk with our High School principles about how that expands or you know what kind of a burden that creates for them it's so all of the High School principles have been were sent this presentation I've met with Bruce eser for probably a couple of hours um we've gone out and

079visited schools I know that you talked to the principls as well we're actually going to talk about it on Thursday um and I at the at Jordan high for 13 years with the daycare and so I'm you know I have that background and the daycare manager produc one and the current one we I hired before I left and the the the burden on me as a principal was next to nothing the comment from our high school principls I had I spoke with Ken over Thanksgiving recess and Marielle as well of it was this is needed we know that it's needed we know that it's coming it's just trying to figure out the how the the two biggest things we are into are um nursing mothers they that's a huge deal they need to be in

080the building where they nurse their babies and then um really hardly my daycare centers that open early enough for the teachers to get to work on time and if we if we had them house self house they really know that you can drop you're in the building you drop off your child and they go up to your classroom versus you drop them off 20 minutes away and then have to drive because it is it is difficult extremely so it is definitely needed we just have to figure out the hell I've Lo I've lost several teachers as a principal to schools with dayc carees because that was their that was a driving Factor especially now as we're coming into we've had a teacher shortage for a while and it's not getting better so if we can

081provide other reasons for people to work here that's a work here and stay here that's it's a double-edged okay um M skymore just uh one other question then a comment so the preschools that we have currently at our elementary schools we're looking at housing these at the high school schools so how why would it affect no they're two different programs I know but so why would it affect it at all can't we still run the preschools with the why can we not because we're short on Personnel or what you know so the special ed preschools that are in the elementary schools are functioning with adults and underneath other criteria so those would stay intact 100% okay with Nancy's question I was the preschools that are at the high schools that would placed questioning about when

082you started talking about special maybe to clarify it the the current preschools are really the early childhood education Labs yes and so well those student the the high school students are servicing um Community children in those Early Childhood Labs so the difference with this is the Early Childhood lab now is the daycare yes facility right but now questioning is the Community families that send their kids to those high school programs wouldn't have a place to go there are if I if you look at Brighton Brighton's has significantly higher numbers than at Corner Canyon which's a whole lot yeah so it it's really dependent upon each location I just wanted clarification because when we started talking about special ed preschools our elementary separ thinkes maybe available in our building to and set up something different for

083the oh I see I see what the little bathrooms that are hard to find I'm really in support of of this I think that with with the cost of daycare I think it makes it difficult for a teacher that's just in their first step or two to continue working honestly because if you take out their daycare expenses it's not a huge difference of of bonus right of net positive for their family in general so I think absolutely what Tom said was correct I think we will preserve a lot of our younger teachers this way I lost teachers absolutely teachers because it no longer made Financial sense to stay teaching and have children okay Guys Mt has a question and then I I want to wrap this up so Mr M yeah a couple of question

084um I keep hearing the uh term that it will be self- sustaining uh which is good I'm just wondering if you factored in any of the buildout in that and advertise that over a period of years to make sure it is self- sustaining what we'd have to do is every single year in all likelihood the price would have to increase because the cost of food the cost of employees will go up and so it's a balancing act right now we're at one piece place but it would have to increase there's just there's no way but you you you skipped over the the cost of a buildout to make this work in a school that would be different saying if you'd have to remodel facility yeah the facilities facilities that would um I would recommend that

085that be something that the Board of Education fund not based upon based upon Recruitment and Retention of teachers and not be part of the actual cost to keep it operational I mean I have built in a cost for like heating cooling custodial but I haven't built in and the actual building space years yeah um the other question is I keep hearing the teachers would love it the teachers would love it the teachers would love it but we have employees in the school district that are not teachers we have a lot of esps and uh a lot of admin as well but that I would guess this would be appealing for as well um and many of especially our esps work a year round calendar would this dry up at the end of the school year

086or would you have a smaller scale through the uh summer months so that students so it can be an educational program it has to tie to the school year if we had a daycare center that was year round it would have it have to be different location different licensing but it is possible um when we started looking at the cost per person for an ESP a lot of our esps it doesn't make Financial sense it would have to be for some of our esps who are 242 but higher up on the lane to be able to afford to have a child in daycare so we've priced them out of the market I'm afraid they're priced out of the market not only with probably with us but anywhere else I mean that one teacher who's paying

087$2,200 a month I don't know you know I would love to be able to keep it low but if we did that we you would have to subsidize it as a board to get it to the point where our ESP most of our ESP employees could afford to place their job has there been any thought given to maybe a sliding scale based off off of what your earnings are we have not discussed that for the district um at UVU they offer a daycare center where they do do that based upon if you're a student if you're a faculty member uh and how much you make so that is something that we could look at but once again it's more difficult to budget not knowing if one person's paying 400 and one person's paying 1,200 or

088if everybody's just a single price makes it easier to facilitate I just have great concern for those on our payroll that are lower end of the payroll scale that also provide a very valuable service and we also need to retain them if a sliding scale may not make more sense it's something that we can review and see about the feasibility of it okay okay um thank you thank you Steve um also Bor do you are we in favor of him bringing this back as like a second reading yes and of refining The Proposal further and I would like to look more at it okay have some questions no I just said I'd like to look at it more yeah I I'd like to look at it more and and maybe more specifics because I think

089what you're proposing for the 2425 school year to me like we ought to really get specific about that first as a pilot program or something you know that way before we start looking about going districtwide on maybe just even expanding a Jordan the first year and then the next year add to I mean just because slow the costs would be and I think Holly asked earlier too the number of measure okay thank you thank you so much for your work on this Steve I know it's been a big job but we really appreciate it okay our next item on the agenda is American Institute for research mentoring program this is a first reading and Nate Edson director thank you for the opportunity to bring this before you um before we start I just want to

090um credit where credit is due Linda Hall administrator over secondary transition really has spreaded um the great majority of this mostly what I did is keep and moral support so um she's here with us if there's any questions that I can't get to she's here to help us but we want to talk about a great partnership opportunity we have with um er which is a research U uh institution and they working with the Department of Education which we're we're very fond of um and they have a a program charting my path to future success and the and the the goal of this program is to really bolster and help do some research in a needed area of transition uh transition is uh a lot of the practical skills that we want our postsecondary students to

091have it aligns perfectly ly with I think our our our vision as as a district our strategic plan and vision the goal is to help our students be more ready for both post-secondary options whether it be work or uh getting into a post-secondary institution currently right now the biggest Gap we're seeing and nationally is this is this quite a lag between um between moving into postsecondary education students with disabilities and employment opportunities we really want to figure out ways to work with all stakeholders to um so we have been uh one of 16 districts Across the Nation that have been selected as potential candidate or uh uh participant in the study and so we want to give you a little bit of details about the program and then at the end ask uh you consider

092uh moving forward with us being so a two-year program over twoyear process studying students who have IEPs who on even though know that there's other students disabilities this is where their focus for this um we are looking at [Music] getting instructors that will be allocated to this program will have their salaries PID um they'll be two different control groups uh or two different study groups in one control group so the program is youve got the self-determined learning model which we'll get into a little bit and then you have an additional on top of thir group of students who will have business as usual that's what they're proposing to do I get that wrong with yeah so program number two the is a adding a mentoring component so that's really important to know that it's all

093around the self-determined learning model that is part of the study so we'll get into those and just be a little more description later on the goal of the study is to provide evidence about whether robust self-determination instruction really um the family engagement in school outcome so the the goal is kind of TW really focus on self-determination but give their family engaged as well and or whether it's just to support level sufficient goal is understand how for who go work cost so that gives us some information as a district after the study is over to really decide what what we need to prioritize in regards to how to move forward with improving our own gaps that we have currently with postc outcomes for our students with disabilities this is a little more information about um the

094two different types of programs that Linda had mentioned a little more one being kind of um the structure of student lb and structure delivered U there'll be cycles of repeated interaction with students small group meetings twice a week uh two inperson family meetings and then oneone sessions about um IP processes and engagement and then the second program is added on to the first and that adds a layer of mentoring twice per month uh focused on post school goals with additional family engagement and a summer component so that's the difference between the the two experimental groups you have the the one base and then you add the additional layer supports which obviously they're saying this is your basic cost this is your added cost and then control better um the N part about this is that

095they're they're G to fund this program um for us so that there'll be a million dollars of Revenue coming in to help hire staff um help with research based curriculum which we'll have um ownership of quote unquote we'll have access to permanently so that's a good resource that we get as a an added bonus regardless of what happens moving forward and then professional development for our our School Employees which I think is is a good asset as well will offer six program instructors materials for training and delivery also funding for p nights and ways that we can provide uh different uh like meal type things to kind of engage our family communities to help them get interested understand the program and understand why we're doing and that those those be held in in conjunction with

096partnership L's got a a partnership commitment letter from our parent Center she's going to pass to that just shows our commitment from our parent Center that's helps parents with students with disabilities to understand rights priv privileges of proceed safs so you can that we're going to collect information what they're looking for as post-se secondary outcomes so they're going to be looking at stud surve surve and they want to see College attendance rates they want to see rates just like we've looked at ourselves we actually do our own surveys a year after graduation similar concept we're gonna be doing some surve um the the participants we're looking at in this study although there's definitely generalizability after they have an IEP they're roughly years in graduation with a regular diploma so Juniors not roughly parents Guardians that

097have consented to participate in the study so there'll be a a parent informed consent component that'll be required as part of the research um research process and then students have ascended to participate in study so both parent participation requests and students also agreeing to be part of it so there's a two a two consent the benefits are again we're going to be focused on self-determination seeing how that that uh helps create ownership for students over their over their lives in their Futures uh we'll have more support Guardians in regard to the transition planning process and how transition can help support their students now and then in post outcomes with the Partnerships such as VR Etc and then we'll have a good rigorous evidence-based Ed uh curriculum and instruction for our students with facilities University transition

098supports we'll have that monitoring and and and uh uh support to the two-year process from um our stakeholders which already had some consultation with High School principles the parent Center and our Community Partners um such as VR we've already had conversations as well so those are some of our and support of the study as well so our next steps is we've been nominated um but we'd like to uh seek board approval for moving forward um with this being participants in the study and we will know if if with your approval we will let them know that we've been approved and then we will let they'll let us know in January roughly if we've been accepted to be participant we don't know that we're accepted yet but that that's a quick a quick run through I

099know it was a lot of yeah really fast Mrs and then Mrs Pon um I hats off to you that you guys have figured this out like this is amazing and one of the I think um those who have children with disabilities understand this when they get to this stage but there is a huge gap of what happens with a child who has support coming from high school moving to the college level and it feels like a lot of Institutions are working in silos but it's we're not necessarily doing a great job communicating with each other from from K12 to highed um so that is one of my questions is is part of this this program going to focus on helping students identify what programs in higher education are available in a great bit for

100them I'm guessing it would yeah self-determination is a huge part of that yeah because I mean it wasn't until I went through this process myself as a parent and I understood how many federal programs actually exist but like the high school students sometimes just aren't even made aware of them so I think this is phenomenal I'm so excited I think it's going to help a lot of families um the one reticence I have is how long does it last for and two years okay and then are we able to reapply or is it kind of a one and on experience so these rare these grants are actually quite rare um to come out of the Department of Education so we're really actually excited that we're even being considered they don't come out very often especially

101foral research um the other part and that's what I think is gonna really help us as a as a district and department is to really figure out okay you know here's the three layers that we've considered what we are doing and we're working working on some other things as well we can certainly talk about it another another day in time to really bolster our traditional approach but then we're able to look at what what is an additional factor that we could potentially consider you know how can we maximize our impact and minimize our cost what does that look like and how can we pull pieces from this if if we need to continue sustainability so and and also just um one of the the things that we propose I think is unique compared to maybe

102some of the other um proposals that for with AAS we're looking at the idea of the our our instructors we would like them to be school counselors so we think that there's a really good General applicability with that because we have I'm not saying that they don't have a lot on their plate I'm not suggesting that but there's some there there's some readymade resources there where if we can kind of build some of that in I think there's some some ways we can through some of that well because that actually ends up benefiting students with 504s too right that's the goal we want to benit all stud disability is eventually to goal yeah because the counselors become much more aware of this bridge from from high school to college then they're really going to be

103able to better benefit a lot of kids so we need to do that that's part of the whole spectrum of students with disabilities it has to include that whole that whole Spectrum so it's not just I AP it's also this one this study is only I AP that's what we'll be able to do beneficially from it is take take away that research benefit and say what what works for all students with disabilities and what can we add as as things that we want to consider aesome and what's really great about this study is once it's finished in two years the sustainability piece is just that they what we get from it is we'll know what the outcome is and they will help us know the sustainability piece and they'll work with us to continue with

104the sustainability piece once the study is over with so what that's the great great piece of this whole puzzle is so it's not like they say bye we're we're out of here they're going to help us continue this on but I do believe with us using school counselors as as our primary instructors will help us know what we can generalize to that larger population within the resources that we currently already fund um part of our comp guidance components thank you okay Mrs Pon your conversation from the previous question kind of answered some of my my questions I was trying to picture it in a practical way you know how are we applying this because I love this idea I think it's the best thing ever and I predict what the results will be I can

105kind of tell you already how it's gonna turn out but you know how that goes you just have to prove your theories um so how would the students access this on a regular basis and is it you're GNA put one in every single scho high school you said six five high schools and then you're gonna put one in diamond ridge yes we have a couple of programs that we need to figure out yeah but yes diamond ridge that me I have to see how how does it work um and then if they are counselors how are you going to free up the time that they're going to be able to meet with these kids that often so these will be hired in addition to addition to for the two years and they're going to be

106hired on um knowing that their contract ends in two years yes and not assuming that it's going to continue on because that just adds more to our can I just comment on that so I don't I don't know how we're we talked about this in the meeting and that was actually a concern that I raised was going beyond the grant yes than what right and and I think we probably ought to have something built in to do some type of program evaluation to make sure that the board has the necessary data and feedback at some point I mean obviously to pull back that's going to be a difficult once the are in place right especially if they're effective the right thing to do I get and I said the same thing like just about every

107high school kid benefit right somebody helping them in transition I mean this is a gap that we've always known right um but but that's I mean a big reason Leon and I when we met and Nate and Linda was you know we felt like this really needed to be in front of the full board for this very reason because it it will expire then there's going to have to be some hard decisions but I think easier to make those decisions once you see the results yeah and we'll also know the economics in specifics I mean there's a lot of unanswered things so it may be worth it Nate I mean along I mean you've got some great framework there but maybe some program evaluation framework that everybody understands in the beginning you know this is

108what we're going to look at when this ends um I would also point out the reason I I think they're focusing on IEPs because under idea it specifically addresses transition Services even though this benefits all of our students we have a federal mandate to provide these students to our special ed students who have IEPs who are getting ready to graduate and have to have these transition services and so because it is federally mandated not only is it great that we have this program to assist us in meeting those but then moving forward we we have to look at it and figure out the best way we can do that to meet that mandate and and the thing that the piece also is there's a curriculum that goes along with this sure that the curriculum can

109be provided with special education teachers so that can be part of the curriculum that is taught in the special education classroom so that's the other piece of it too is how much time we'll have access to that once this stud goes away the other component to answer your question for the six although Brian's not here to answer the question my understanding is we are still school counselor position so I think we we'll there's probably going to be some potential for them to roll into something if not if if the evaluation doesn't show just trying to figure out okay sounds great now how do you apply it sorry just gotta fit the round pegs in the wasn't in the presentation I know I'm short on time is uh we we there is going to be an

110inter if we do get accepted there'll be a time of training before the actual implementation so I think that first six months in the fall is what we would look starting it we'll start and if we get accepted then we're going to look at hiring and then some PD that yeah there'll be a big implementation um part again where they're funding that part so there won't be a a draw on our resources in that way yeah or there'll be reimbursement that kind of stuff so there won't be any negative impct we'll be able to do the training and really have more flesh out we come back and give you updates as as as desired and you know very much in favor of us doing this and I think it will be very beneficial I just

111trying to figure out what it would look like yes okay Mrs T yeah I too think this is a really great idea and have just some kind of more practical questions so it's I mean it's a study and it sounds like group of students so one of my questions is how many students are we talking about 120 120 and that's spread across the six high schools so and some will choose you know the plan one some will choose the plan two and then some are the control group they'll be selected are they self- selected or is it Lottery is it a blind study is it so they won't know necessar they'll be getting it but right it's a lottery system any everyone might say look at that and say well I want that one definitely

112would so so if they yes so then will each school have all three all three groups yes every school will have all three groups and what we'll do is have a parent night at each school to explain the study parents will be able to to sign up right there and then they will go into a lottery system right consent they'll know that they don't have choice in which option they get put into so they know they're in part of chance they won't get anything additional and you know but I'd like to believe what we're currently doing is pretty good too well that's the best part just improve on it they're amazing of course as you know but no well we are we are still doing in addition to this as an opportunity um we Linda

113has been doing a lot of work with USU and some other partners to really bring even more resources in and and improve what we already have so we're not done working we're working with you know uh CTE we've been working with Melissa Baker and counseling we're trying really hard to do what um Miss Oaks described as really unify across we're trying to break through the the typical you know we're working in silos and work together to kind of how do we not repeat Services how do we really through so we meet now monly and discuss that particular issue and we so we're hoping to continue to improve our own program at the same time using this as a way to just kind of get a sense of what else on we're all done do we

114need that's great and then the for the data that's gonna be collected Canyon Student Records I'm sure it all will comply with furp and things like that but is it data that's different than what we would normally just because they'll be looking at IEPs and things like that that's identifiable it's it's part of that they'll the parents will know and consent to that component that's part of that those parent nights that I know those are always sensitive topics but that'll be that part thank you a question okay then Mr millerberg has a question or comment yeah I'm just listening to uh Nancy's question about the lottery and then I picked up that it will be a blind Lottery to where everybody will have at least a fair chance of getting in but I also go

115back to what Dan said about uh this is going to be mandated that we provide transitionary services for all special ed kids and what would what would the additional cost be to do this for all of the special ed students in that uh you know within two years of graduation because to me this looks like a great program and a great idea and I'm just wondering how much more expensive that would be to take uh if we took in all the all students that age great great question I don't know that I have that well no have that right now I mean I could use some things to to consider not every student needs the same transition services and so it's always an individualized uh discussion and and team decision and so I think that's

116what uh is going to give us information even if we do end up we love this and this is where we want to go it may not be that every student is going to need this to make progress and that's really what we determine our services based off is what does a student need to make progress and some need a lot and some need a little and so we'll try to customize that to each student well and with that information followup on that is if some students need a lot and some students need a little and you're trying to just make that fit for each individual student is a lottery the best way to approach this not with not with the the normal circumstances under the study it's part of the the way that they're

117going to determine the impact uh without R reducing all the biases they can account for but once that's over it would then turn over to an individualized decision we'll have the curriculum that we can use and and depending on what we prioritize what the board prioritizes supports will look like for a student who needs more intense support and it still will be individualized because the transition services within the study will still be individualized on the IEP yeah to answer the question maybe a preemptive question for for parents who are in this the the 33% who don't receive the other what we always be able to rely on as team decision components so if a student is not making progress within the normal uh range of what we do we always come back to the table

118and say what do we need to change so that's never going to change and we can't eliminate that factor as part of the study that has to be what we do as our mandate so so if we are seeing a student who's getting services and that's not working we'll come back to the table and discuss what we need to provide additionally it just won't be in the vein of that those components you'll go to a diff different level of intervention yeah we could bring in Community Partnerships like Columbus connects we could do VR there's a lot of ways we we can reroute students to get more support um we just won't be able to involve them in the study in that way yeah but I I am really interested to find out how much more

119this would cost because just on the surface to me is a layer and it look like a great idea we're hopeful we think it'll be a really big impact okay you thank you m Mrs Oak so just real quick while we're talking about data this is the sort of thing I think that would need to be shared with usbe and the state legislature especially when we're talking about trying to increase the um wpu for a sped student and so are they going to allow us to have access to our own students like conglomerate like study information like can that be pulled out in a way that we could actually share it with legislators or other lawmakers that'll be it's part of a study so we should be able to have access to that should get

120I would love that I mean I think it be really helpful that's great this is so how many high school students do we have on IEPs high school students uh we have around 1,200 1,00 but the ones we're looking at our Junior and seniors so we've got a wild of Juniors about 200 Juniors about 200 okay so how the lottery is going to work then is the parents are going to be invited to the meeting and they're going going to be informed if they're not at the meeting there's no chance they can get no we're going to be doing ongoing parent nights so they are on knowing what's happening so we're gonna have several parent nights so they're gonna always have a chance to know about what's happening with this they have to attend to

121one of those parent meetings for their child to be selected no they don't have to attend to be selected we're going to have different opportunities for them to be able to sign up to be part of that sorry I'm losing my voice we to participate can you talked about a meeting and I thought oh that's gonna eliminate some we'll go out to home we're visits we're gonna have it through counselors we're gonna have it through email we're gonna have it all different ways they're going to be able to sign up for it you wantan you want to get the full partic we have participation number yeah okay and I really liked Dr Robin's suggestion too as we're moving through it so that we can monitor and and see and a look at what the sustainability

122would look like and Dr Clemens is actually on she's from Air so do you want do you have any comments that I know we're running out of time so no I'll be very quick you all did a fabulous job presenting you didn't need me it's it's a really I wanted to address the the question about data though so we actually um well it sounds like a great idea that a study would share data um with a district um the data that we collect directly we actually we we don't I mean we promise parents confidentiality and and we don't share that data back with the district but the vast majority of the data that the study will be collecting is actually data that the district already already collects right there's very one of the things about

123this study that we think is potentially quite appealing to districts is that there's very little burden of direct data collection on either students or teachers so so the district will have access to the to the data that we're we're we're collecting because that some of the data will come from the district and and it was more about the the findings right is that the findings the findings absolutely the findings we will absolutely share want personal information we want the findings to be able to demonstrate to the legislature that it would be beneficial for them to invest yeah absolutely so I misunderstood the point yes no I mean the depart of Education um is very committed to disseminating these results very widely um to policy makers and practitioners um so not only the results of the

124the impact on student longer term outcomes but there's also a cost study as well so really making sure that that information is shared widely so does that does that also mean that they'll be sharing like Department of Ed will share that information to our like legislative bodies that are involved in that that there'll be some down that way too so sure I mean one of the things we're always really interested in doing is if a district wants to so any District that participates in the study remains confidential uh unless the district decides to say we're part of the study and once the district wants to say we're part of the study and they want to be communicating with policy makers um we're happy to support um those efforts I've worked on another study where a

125district was really pretty active in wanting to share that they were part of a study and what what they were learning and and yeah we're absolutely happy to to partner with that sure or to support you all in doing it on your own without us that's great hey thank you thank you so much for joining us thank you you Nate and Linda we appreciate you guys um I do have one question do we need this on the second second hearing in possible action for next meeting like is there a deadline so do we we would really love to get them a response as fast as you feelable doing yes because we're hoping they've already nominated us so if we get approved then we'll be approved in January so we can move forward with this we

126have a we have been working on an mou with Linda help okay Jeff and Dan and so we like to have we hope to have that ready for you to approve possibly approved on this meeting okay perfect thank you so much we're going to go on to the next item which is policy update and it's policy 500.0 6 technology resources and policy 400.2 non-discrimination policy 500.1 nondiscrimination okay two non-discrimination and it'll be Beth Christensen and then also the superintendent um Robins wanted to start start a off thank you uh president shill and I before we turn it over to Jeff too I I just want to share appreciation to our policy committee for working on this policy and um as we talked in the last meeting even though uh this policy is it's pretty Cosmetic

127in just clarifying um coherency really with uh in continuity with how we utilize and monitor um devices and technology in the district and I can talk a little bit about you know the reasons why it's it's so important that that is managed at the district level when you're thinking about scalability of curriculum and instruction and really how that levels up right that that if we want to ensure that that that's the same across all of our classrooms whether it's training or how it's engaged security measures all of that's important that that comes really from a central location but but deeper than that um I I just I I kind of and we haven't done this for a while I don't think this is anything new to anyone but maybe just to revisit uh a little

128bit of the why with technology and and maybe speak to some of the issues that that come with technology that we can you know celebrate the positive but also recognize the challenges and some of the dangers that are involved in technology because I think that's all part of our story and and part of the you know Information Age that we live in when you when you think about looking at the portrait of a scholar I was looking at this over the holiday and just thinking through our strategic Vision when it comes to personalized learning that we've called out as a as part of of our strategic Vision um so how might technology really support Innovation well there's a piece in there about creative practices right we want students to to create be able to use

129technology in that regard critical thinking we can imagine you know there's many ways that our students use technology to really inform their thinking and to seek uh information so that they can become critical thinkers of of information um resilient Learners uh you know how often do we talk about technology being used in small groups whether it's reading intervention or credit recovery or there's lots of different strands through the district where our teachers are you know use this tool very Strate ically uh for students to not only for intervention purposes for but also for acceleration right and when we think about you know one thing that we learned a couple of year maybe was it not too long ago not two years maybe a year ago um when we heard from Gretchen that we have 90,000

130students access uh Library titles online in our Sora app you know that's so this this point about access an opportunity for kids using technology um when I think about impactful citizen um again whether it's creativity or or communication or being a critical thinker it plays a role and then lastly collaborator and we've we've talked a little bit about that so so it has a definite role in our ecosystem and how we deliver instruction and was that accelerated during the pandemic yes we know that right that we leaned on it heavily um probably more than we wanted to at the time but we we didn't have a lot of choice in that and that's that was the option that was most viable that we had and I think considering all aspects of the pandemic and everything

131that that was going wrong there was a lot there that went right uh in ensuring that our students still had access to to an education um to to really keep the ball rolling since that time uh I think we've learned a lot of lessons about coming out of the pandemic and and really what it means to get back to the experience of education and I appreciate Andrew's comments in fast board meetings about our parents expect to send their kids to school to have relationships and to engage and and we talked about you know what that looks like in our CRA in our classrooms that it's less about technology it's it's there as a tool to support but it's not the driver and never should be you know you can't replace the human experience that we

132all have when we learn from each other especially kids so so we're in this balancing act right we're in this place where we're trying to balance both you know the need for technology in the information age that we live in and preparing our students for their Futures at the same time recognizing the challenges that come with that and you know I I think one of the things that as it as information and Technology accelerates more and more challenges come with that right and the bad guys are out there working just as hard as the good guys and so and you know it's always it's amazing to me how fast that occurs I I remember I I visited Google I don't know their campus in California maybe it's been six seven years ago but but the

133thing that I I didn't realize when I I we were talking to them about how Google updates you know you you think when we talk about updates in systems that you know in my mind I'm thinking weekly monthly you know cly and and they explain to us it's every 10 seconds you know and so so when you apply that to this Paradigm you can see how the challenges that are created um how difficult they are and um I just I I I want to express this uh you know I think it's important to recognize how important it is that our teachers our parents our students that there is danger in technology and there are issues with it um and I I respect that and I think it's important and our parents and our teachers have

134played a great role in identifying all of those issues whether it be you know pornography or inappropriate sites or you know some of the things we experienced in second steps where we've got hyperlinks you know this is all this is all new territory that that we're learning from but but I'm confident that you know as technology evolves we're evolving and we're getting better at our systems too and I I've said this before out in our community meetings that when you think about Fielding systems that you might go down and buy at Walmart or Best Buy or whatnot um I'll put our you know our Fleet of system engineers and Technology people up against any of those systems any day um our ability to Monitor and to track and to protect and provide security uh is

135is um right near the top is it perfect no are there holes are there ways around our our firewalls and our filters through vpns and other you know ways uh yes that is a fact of life that we have to continue to work with um and engage but when I see in classrooms when I see students that are able really utilize the technology to increase their own learning to accelerate or to receive EXT help um you know the goal at the end of the day is really not just to personalize that experience for our students but to really assist in that heavy lift that our teachers have and when they are trying to instruct 30 plus students um that's that's just the norm in Utah and if technology can help that lift then it's it's

136a worthwhile Endeavor to to go down this road so I don't want to take a lot of time I just thought it was important to really kind of call some of that out um before we get started and yeah if other if other members of the policy committee want to speak to that that would be great but um I I just thought it was important to kind of highlight some of the backdrop and the context um before Jeff gets into the policy itself so thank you superintendent Mr Ed so I always appreciate superintendent's discussion I just want to close any potential rabbit holes that may have been opened up The Floodgate this policy update is not uh a massive change that changes anything the way we do it clarifies uh who's responsible for devices and

137so for an overarching device policy and strategy that's not being discussed here and so I just wanted to fill in those rabbit holes before we start going down those um that's all been pented to uh to some of our other subcommittees so okay thank you I appreciate that Mrs n i i too just want wanted to say similarly to Mr edel the way it was worded before it left it a little open to interpretation and this is a way to clarify the practice that's already been used however I do just want to make a statement because I have so many parents um you know that have communicated with me in my community I'm very grateful as a board member and I know as a district we are with the input that we receive from parents

138because it has definitely made us look at things and say okay can we do better and the answer is yes we can and you know there is going to be a greater Initiative for the educational piece with this you know we're training kids to be College and Career ready and we also because we're giving them technology and instruments we are going to do a um even more in strengthening our education with them as to you know their their opportunity to be responsible with these devices and all sorts of things and that is going through um student respons of services and it and even school performance so I just wanted that to be on the public record for anyone that might be watching that we've taken that very seriously we're grateful for that input and there's

139there's growth there that that and steps that are being taken so far I just want to add one thing too to that and there there are a lot there's a plethora of other issues um employee use agreements I mean still thinking about AI you know there's a lot out there that we still need to talk about but to Andrew's point and I I should have clarified that up front this is a very short window into something that we currently practice to to help bring Clarity to that um but I I also want to just say this that I I think thinking about where we were at the start of the pandemic to now um I'm really grateful to our teachers and our staff we really you know heating the call that we we do need

140to really pull back on technology use that yes it's important yes it's part of our DNA and our ecosystem and it it provides great support but I I was very excited to hear in our student uh board advisory Council the kids give us the feedback that they're seeing less and less technology in their experience and I and I see that when I'm out in our schools and so um I I think it's great you know our teachers are really engaging our students and that has been a long process right coming out of the pandemic yes um one of the things that that we've talked about is you know using canvas as a reference and as a resource but not as a place for new curriculum and instruction but you know if there ever is a

141pandemic we're we're ready right and it's a great tool but but it it really shouldn't be you know just a place where original new new instruction uh is is placed we also talked a lot about downtime you know and screen time so whether it's fast finishers or before class or in between between breaks that you know we're really encouraging students and teachers close close the Chromebooks make it about a conversation write a thank you note read a book you know whatever engage right instead of just being locked in on a screen during that downtime um find find other other ways to uh engage so so I I just want to give that shout out to our teachers I I feel like it's going in the right direction and appreciate the board leadership and and our

142leadership team that's here for really helping to advance that thank you just one other really quick thought and I you know thank you for everything that's been said and kind of the idea of rabbit holes and whatever I mean this really is just kind of an infrastructure the Baseline systems and then all of the applications and how it's utilized in the classroom is a whole whole different discussion yes okay thank you je can you do this in 10 minutes you know now all the rabbit holes are gone taking away all my thunder I'll see what I can do um I don't seem to behind you oh it's behind me I'm like I'm looking there and I'm like they don't want to see a video so is everyone is said these are I think foundational but

143also cosmetic um this policy when it was looked at was just pre pandemic we got it in place just prior to the pandemic when we were looking at you know as you learn as a law student laws and policies don't work lock step with changes in society that're they're always playing the catch-up game I mean it's just the nature of the Beast something happens policies are developed laws follow and then it's a constant balance so we at that time wereing looking at how do we address personal devices in schools there was a board rule we brought it back and we updated our policy as a result this board um was primarily concerned at that time with maintaining the face-to-face instruction and that's a lot of how the policy was worded we had some language in

144there as you can see down below in the third paragraph um where we did have that District owned electronic devices for instruction because the principal is the instructional leader would be guiding how we're using those devices in the classroom what we've added is just to clarify when we're talking about a systemic instructional program we are looking at a lot of the network applications filtering Hardware software decisions you can't have 29 apps philosophies and strategies and maintain a cohesive system if it's independent um a f day in every school so this language is just to really tighten that we're really we're talking about our systemic instructional program that that's really the responsibility of the superintendent and District administration that being said all of the work that's being done by our operations committee and those parents that

145are coming forward with concerns that's a partnership that we have and part of our digital citizenship is that we partner with our parents so that's the update for the technology policy um the other policies um we were looking as the policy committee started this year there have been a number of bills that have been focused on discrimination issues and we were looking at how the board communicates with patrons how they file claims so we just gave a look at our non-discrimination policies and we went back look at all the federal statutes that deal with disabilities that deal with title six race color and national origin Title Nine um how you file a complaint and made some updates for discrimination and non-discrimination policies um our district has a few policies that are structured different than some

146other districts some have lumped all of their discrimination related issues with 504 and Ada Title 9 all into one Behemoth policy we've separated ours out so that if you're looking for an issue that deals with Title 9 or 504 we have other policy that address those issues the updates to this are minor uh we added bullying to this policy was already in our discipline but often a complaint of harassment or discrimination also generally includes bullying so we've included that from State Statute and then we've done atic etics to the submission of a complaint and the complaint procedure just clarifying as you're reporting up who you report to and then updated the review of our legal refence references and access to forms and so we have both an employee non-discrimination policy and a student non-discrimination policy

147and those edits are essentially identical these are for first reading you can send feedback regarding both of these to the policy committee I can answer questions or break and you can send feedback to the policy committee I would recommend if you have pretty specific feedback that doesn't require discussion that maybe um send an email um Jeff and that way we can look at that specific stuff if there's something that you see that we all need to talk about then we can talk about it but if it's just like oh I think you should look at this specific thing then just shoot Jeff an email and we'll bring it up in policy committee and address them okay thank you any questions for comments then okay go ahead go because I was about to move on to

148just one more piece of housekeeping from the policy committee so if you had something to say so that's our board handbook um so I sent everyone out an email um for the board handbook that we've been working on it's got a number of sections done with that um and now it's to the point where we're asking for comments um and feel free to like pick and be like you missed this whole thing uh I know Mont already provided comments on at least one section um and so don't hold back um because this is this is our document as the policy committee I feel like our jobs to prime it and then um an opportunity for the whole board now to really weigh in and and let's get us an awesome product um is there a

149deadline like when is your next meeting yeah that's a good question yeah when do you want feedback um continuous feedbacks good our next meeting is for the policy committee is December 8th I don't know if that's what you're asking that's our next meeting it would be nice to have before then that's fair um and then too if you have um any comments or recommendations or bullet points or thoughts or brainstorming about um sections we haven't written yet just shoot me an email um and that way we can incorporate that as we start building those uh and yeah if you have any questions about making comments or anything just reach out to me um I'll be managing a little folder that we're we're collaborating in yeah Andrew I really appreciate uh the fact that you've got

150it broken down into smaller pieces uh you will find comments from me on the early but not on the late sections but uh I will continue to March through that piece by piece by piece thank you thank you Andrew um Mrs Oaks I question so I just wanted to address the piece with regard to technology and I appreciate a lot of what all of you said and particularly what the superintendent said I've had a lot of thoughts on this you know in my area Hol and I share a lot of the same um overlap of constituents and people have been very concerned about it and there have been a couple things in my mind about some of this one is that for sure it has definitely informed better practice for the district I've been very

151appreciative of Scott mcoles response to so much of this a lot of the direct feedback he's been receiving from parents he's gone and applied that to how our filters are functioning I mean we learn from other these parents who come forward and their experience and and that's been helpful um the other is that I think it's important for anyone in the community especially in the current times that we live in to offer good faith um this morning I had forgotten we were going to be discussing this this morning and ironically at 6:45 in the morning we had a schedule call with Apple care because I have a 10-year-old with type 1 diabetes that has to have a phone in order to keep track of his blood sugars he's entirely much younger than any child I

152would ever recommend to have a smartphone and we thought as parents we had shut everything down on that sucker but because of the new updates and everything that happens we found out he was able to find and access more things it it was fairly a nerd at this point but we could see the writing on the wall an hour and a half later sharing screens on his phone on my husband's phone going three layers deep of managers we finally figured it out this is with parents who you know were pretty proactive about making sure but even with a company like Apple it was difficult and it was an individual situation and it's like my husband said there's a sweet spot that's different for every parent and so I would ask that the parents provide us

153some um measure of of good faith of patience that we work this through together um the other is that as I think it's important we talked about this in high quality learning and then some of our other meetings we really are looking at a deeper level about what it means to be engaged effectively and learning with technology we've you know visited a private school that does this really beautifully that they instill a sense of personal responsibility and and individual ownership of their learning and and that's with them having access to devices every day where they're working on their own personalized level of learning so I think it's important for the public to understand this is not just an umbrella like wash we're gonna just move on and ignore it's not at all we're actually trying

154trying to fine-tune and and become better and listen to what they have to say but you know I think that this is one of the greatest challenges for parents in our generation is to figure out how to manage this and and it's it's hard for everyone and yeah this morning taught me that in the spad so I anyway I thank the policy committee for your work on this I recognize you guys have a heavy Bob so thank you for all your work okay thank you okay I think we could call the meeting to an end this study session and we will start at 7 o'clock for business thank you everyone welcome everyone to the business meeting of the Canyon's Board of Education today is November 28th 2023 we are meeting at the district office located

155at 9361 South 300 East in Sandy Utah um Mr millerberg is joining us virtually so he is here even if you don't see him on the picture um and the first item is to approve the agenda for tonight if I can have a motion to approve that agenda I I will make that motion I move that we approve the agenda for tonight's meeting okay thank you we have a motion do we have a second to that a second okay is there any discussion to the motion okay see none I'll call for a vote all in favor say I I any opposed okay that motion passes unanimously um the next item on the agenda is to have the Pledge of Allegiance and we have coppper viiew Elementary principal Colleen Smith here and then after that she

156will share some school highlights and is the light on on okay okay um I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all right I'm I am really excited to to meet with you guys today so last year brought us a lot of changes that proper you um in large part through the the support of you all and our approval of our comprehensive support an improvement plan which um gave us a lot of additional funding and resources to support the needs of our school um I have a couple I do prefer documents I do have a couple do first one um one of the things we did with uh looking at our school Improvement

157plan was determining the needs of our students and one of the things we saw was that we needed to address um increased opportunities to uh build their content vocabulary and background knowledge through really highquality experiences so instead of just having assemblies or field trips we went uh and looked at those field trips and assemblies in a really intentional way aligned them to their core standards and have provided really cool um opportunities for the students to then learn what they're supposed to be learning in their core standards have a field trip or a assembly that aligns to that and then we bring the families in for a community stem night also with um the the partners that we partner with for the field trip and assembly to then experience what the students have been learning our

158most recent um stem night we had two grade levels so in our small school that's like 80 students um but we had over 50% attendance and over a 100 uh people there so we're really excited about how we're able to provide those experiences um to our students and our families um in addition to all of those experiences we also have to identify several milestones and data points along the way in our CSI plan and um the timing of me being able to be here is exciting because we're at the end of the first quarter so I can share some of our quarterly data which I'm expected to to submit um we have met every single Milestone that we uh identified at the beginning of the year and some of the coolest um data comes from

159our students and so I have for you those highlights in our student stakeholder data uh the top line for each of those is last year's data and then this year's data is below that um so we knew that school climate and safety was a big priority for our students some of the things that they reported as far as my students my teacher knows how to students to behave in class last year we were at 45% of students saying yes this year we had a 33 Point increase to 78% of students saying yes my teacher knows how to get students to behave in class um that is consistent throughout our data the the highlights I have for you that they um see that we we know how to get them to participate in class from 47

160to 78% increase that we make learning interesting which they commented specifically when we asked him about that um with the the assemblies the stem nights the field trips they are seeing the connection between all of those things instead of we went here and that was fun but now we're back to learning it's we did this and then we did this and we did this um so making learning interesting had a Sixpoint gain feeling safe safety was a a really big concern and priority and those have seen really big jumps as well from 52% to 62% we assess lunchroom um so that's a 10-point gain and then on the playground it was a 12o gain from 45 to 57 um percent of students saying yes um I didn't share this data with you but um when

161we talk about recess we know that that was probably one of the most challenging areas for staff and thank you so much like it is I know that I'm speaking fast because it is so so exciting to see the progress we're making and um I feel super super fortunate to be able to walk into Copp rview every single day and be their um leader so thanks for trusting me with that for this time to recognize the achievements of students in Canyon's District who are showing the world that we are Canyon strong those who are mentioned tonight will receive a letter of commendation from the board and the superintendent I know that we've said this before but I think we're going to say it again tonight the Arts are certainly a focus in the can Canyons

162District you'll see here information about two of our final musicals uh produced by Canyon's district schools we've mentioned the musicals at Jordan and Corner Canyon and ala High just recently wrapped up their run of Mean Girls I heard it was incredibly successful unfortunately I didn't make it over there but I've heard that it was fantastic but if you're looking for fun and family-friendly entertainment look no further than white Christmas and into the woods they start this week both stting November 30th at Brighton and Hillcrest High Schools now you also May note there a address to a new web page on our site and this is where we invite the community to look to find out when our students will be performing we've invited all of our Arts teachers to list all of their performances on

163a calendar on www.canyonsdistrict.org slarts also provide this and an email to the board so you can regularly go there to see all of our fantastic choir and instrumental music performances at our schools now if you are in search of a holiday themed choir or a uh Orchestra or a band concert go here to find when and where our students will be performing the performances are always amazing and true learning experiences so take a look at that part of our website and we urge support of our Performing Arts programs especially into the woods and white Christmas so our first honores tonight are the 6A football champions The Corner Canyon Chargers now the Chargers won big at the recent 6A football championships the title is back in Canyon school district the Chargers were escorted back to their

164campus by police with the lights flashing and they also got to light the victory light at Corner Canyon on November 17th as you all may know Corner Canyon claimed the championship trophy their fourth in six years this was after a hardfought win against Skyridge which is the team that beat the Chargers last year for the title so it's nice to see the Chargers bring the trophy back to Canyon's District now these two grid iron powerhouses they clashed at Rice eeko Stadium it was so much fun to see the the students faculty staff and parents show up to cheer for the Chargers the Chargers took the lead after scoring the first touchdown of the game early in the first quarter and they didn't look back until they were holding that state trophy the final score was

1654127 so we offer a big congratulations to Corner Canyon and Coach care way to go Chargers our next honores are the Canyons District marching bands and in addition to the State title in football the alah high drum line brought home a State title after the recent State marching band competition they are the state champions in their division and at that same competition they took third place and Brighton took fourth place and in their division Hillcrest took fourth and then the next day at the bands of America competition Brighton took fourth in their division and 15th overall so congratulations to all of our marching bands for a successful field show season and we are so happy that the Hawks brought home another state championship to Canyon school district our next honores are the students who are

166the creative force behind the Canyon's District official holiday card now it just isn't the holidays until we unveil the artwork of our annual holiday card produced Always by Canyon's District students now for more than a decade we have chosen artwork created by Canyon students to be featured on the cover of this holiday greetings that we send around the world we've asked students from Alta Brighton Corner Canyon Hillcrest Jordan and Jordan Valley School to produce this artwork this year we chose an elementary school at Sprucewood Elementary School you'll see there that uh we have put up the design of the card for this year's U tide greetings we send that to Major supporters Community Partners Congressional and legislative delegations mayor City councils superintendents of other school districts media organizations and even the office of the first

167lady at the White House now this year we had Sprucewood fourth graders create a whole bunch of artwork for us the school fi uh winnowed it down to three final ists and forwarded all three of those pieces of artwork to us and it was our job to pick one piece of artwork to be featured on the cover and we just could not do it so this year we chose all three and they are done by Allison little Maisie Morgan and Ashlin Richards and they said that they worked for weeks on this artwork it's fosting glass and chalk it's an art project that was done uh in the class and as you may know Sprucewood is a Beverly Taylor Sorenson arts school Sprucewood Elementary receives grant funding from the State Office of Education to deliver Arts

168integrated in instruction and Spruce Woods art teacher Kristen benof worked with all the fourth graders on this project so and she says that all students benefited from this project not just those who are selected to be featured on this year's holiday card so congratulations to the Sprucewood fourth graders who were selected to have their artwork featured on the U tide greetings that the district sends around the world president shell thank you so much for this time that you grant us during board meeting to honor those who help make us Canyon strong thank you hey thank you so much we have now come to the patron comment portion of the meeting the board often designates time in meetings to listen to patrons of the district Patron comment time is limited to Residents and taxpayers of Canyon's

169District students and parents of students and current employees of the district patrons May provide board members with written documents these documents must be submitted to the board secretary at the meeting or email to the office of public Communications by noon of the day following the board meeting and the board secretary is right over there tonight individuals will be given three minutes those representing groups will be given five and comments made during Patron comments are part of the public record it is the board's practice just to listen and take notes during Patron comments the board of education does not discuss matters that are not on the meeting's agenda nor engage in public comment on individual students to protect their privacy or employee issues if a patron wants to comment on a District employees character professional confidence

170or mental or physical help the board requests that those comments be submitted to the board in writing however if a patron determines to verbally comment on those Personnel issues the comments need to be civil and refrain from personal attacks insults defamatory or slanderous comments about an individual the Board of Education values input on all sides of issues to maintain decorum and respect we ask that those in attendance refrain from Applause or other types of demonstrations during the patron comment time as well as throughout the meeting comments must be age appropriate considering children who may be present or watching online okay we have just one person that has signed up and um it is Anna mcnamer she could just come up to the microphone works best for you once you do that I'd like you to

171imagine any middle school classroom that you've ever been in I want you you imagine that you're sitting at your desk filling with your hands listening to the teacher wishing your Chromebook would load just a little bit faster you're halfway through the day and almost done with your first week of school it's been a good week to be a middle schooler and then you get to hear the voice run fight hide interior thread alert locks Lights Out of Sight run fight hide locks Lights Out of Sight your teacher rushes to the door flips off the lights locks everything you and your friends gather together closely pressing as hard as you can your back's against the wall even though there's a huge window above you you're going to be as quiet as you can your friend next

172to you is shaking and you grab her hand steadily hoping that she won't be too loud your teachers pressed up against the door hoping that they don't see anything but you don't know you're as silent as you can be but there are 38 other people in there 38 other human beings someone Giggles a little bit and you stare at them softly beneath you there are screams or maybe they're still going did they stop there's silence and you wait and you wait and you wait for a minute maybe more time is endless it doesn't mean anything nothing means anything are you going to see your mom again are you going to see your cat again are you going to die you're only in seventh grade how is this real a few seconds later oh it was

173an accident we didn't mean for the alarm to go off it's fine everything's fine get back on with your day that's how Butler Middle School ended their first week that's how I ended my Friday of my first week back at school after that some students were crying some left there was no in between for me though I had to deescalate myself my adrenal and pumping through my body am I going to see my kids again every teacher has a plan of action for a life or death situation you can't be a teacher without having thought what will happen if an armed Intruder comes into my school into my classrooms am I willing to die for my students or should I leave now but but we give Grace we forgive we get therapy we move on

174we hope for something better these egregious breaches and Trust affect us they lack empathy they hurt our students they hurt our relationships with our community because hearing that it was just an accident from the outside sounds like someone just mispronounced a word it doesn't give you the feeling of the adrenaline coursing through your veins until it happens again this egregious breach of trust is something that our school board has to fix this same event happened just before school yesterday morning at Butler middle school and our students and staff felt this again this is above our heads as teachers above our heads as staff out of our principal's control it's not their responsibility to try to solve these system updates maintenance erors you deserve As Leaders of our community as our school board leaders to know

175what's going on in our communities so that you can act with kindness and Humanity supporting our students to feel safe in coming to school supporting our staff to be able to participate in a calm environment I've been teaching for 14 years I've been in education for 30 never have I had this happen ever but I am human to and I deserve to go into school without being repeatedly subjected to this hostile trauma of fearing for my life and not knowing is it real or just another fakey every time we expose our students to oops it was just an accidental lockdown they take a real situation less seriously yesterday when this happened half of my students walked down the hallway saying probably doesn't matter it's not real and the other half were crying this is escalated

176to a leadership level it's your responsibility to yourselves to your communities to look within yourselves and to find some level of kindness to identify this issue and fix it thank you okay thank you so the next item on our agenda is the consent agenda and I will now ask for motion and please read all of the items I'll go ahead and make that motion so I'd like to make a motion to approve tonight's consent agenda which includes item a approval of minutes for November 14th 20123 Item B approval of hire and termination reports item C approval of purchasing bids item D approval of student overnight travel item e approval of 2022 2023 annual comprehensive financial report acfr and related audit reports and item F approval of 2024 to 2025 school calendar and tenative approval for

1772025 to 2026 and 2026 to 2027 school calendars okay thank you we have a motion is there a second to that motion I'll second that motion okay thank you we have a motion in a second is there any discussion to that motion okay see none I will call for a vote all in favor say I I I any opposed okay that motion passes unanimously the next item on the agenda is new business and item a is approval of updated sell Tower Revenue distribution model and this will be presented by Leon Wilcox business administrator thank you president shill uh sorry I'm kind of walking with the limp my wife said she made a voodoo doll of me and now she's pulling my leg [Music] uh back he's don't quit your day job Leon uh on um

178on board thank you Tom on on board dos I passed out our uh and and it should be said uh at our M operation subcommittee Fus report last uh meeting on the 14th yes us to bring back we proposed a a cell tower re Revenue new sharing plan and update and yes just to bring that back with more numbers that you could look at and compare I just passed down a document uh the same document is on board dos so mon that same document I just passed out is on board dos might be easier to look at it here it might not be it's we tried to get everything on one page so so I know the print is very small on both bardocks and on this document but uh just to give you a

179quick update on what we're proposing here is a as as we said last time back a decade ago we came up with a revenue sharing model for sell Tower proceeds and that was the whole school that has a tower keeps 85% of the money the other 15 is pulled and in pulled together and then shared among all schools that do not have a tower based on their enrollments and as we looked at this over the last couple years uh you know most of the towers 12 of the six that we have or or high schools and of course they get a higher amount of land trust tssa on a per student basis they collect registration fees so we thought maybe we ought to look at doing something maybe a little bit different you know adjusting

180the model a little bit not an overhaul but a little tweak there and we thought this would be helpful because sell Tower revenues are the most discretionary funds that really a principle and their school has you know they use uh what we're proposing is is a cost just adjusting the model you know from 75% instead of 85% down to 75% uh and we also want to cap those schools at 30,000 that have it we'd also propose that Midville and Midville Midville middle and elementary they have a tower if you've been over there technically sits on the fent side if you will of Midville middle so you know we've always given it to them but we'd propose that they share that equally with Midville Elementary but also be in the pool if you will because that

181Tower generates only about $6,000 annually uh the there is a tower at Crescent View Middle if youve been over there it's actually on the Middle School side of the fence if you will but we've always split that equally with Crescent Elementary and we proposed that that would continue we also have a Tower down on the fifth West property and we've the districts have always kept the proceeds from that one uh for the last decade or so uh and that would be that would continue as well uh what this what I've shown you here is just tweaking that model going from that 75 I mean from 85 down to 75 it would increase the amount for a nonell tower school for each student from $341 at to $617 for the elementary schools we have nine Towers

182if you will at elementary schools not counting Crescent and Midville but uh you know so those that have a tower would actually lose money as you see there uh those that do not have a tower gain money so there would be a net gain to the elementary schools of roughly 14,000 of course that will be adjusted based on the actual counts but this is what we're projecting going to the Middle School counts again only two schools albian and Butler have a tower of course Midville does will we're proposing does sh share their Tower with the elementary school but they would get a little bit more so about 11,000 increase there uh the high schools would go down as we said because they have the most most of the towers so there would decrease uh roughly

183from 20 about $3 less you know from 2732 to 2419 or you can see the amount there so they'd make up that difference of that 25,000 that they would go down so that's our proposal there for that so that's all I have again I would say it's discretionary but you know overall these are still not major Revenue budgets for the school but they you know they can be used in of iy ways for the principles that way so happy to take any questions you may have that's all I have there okay thank you um board are there any questions or comments I have one and then Mrs neor thank thank you for um looking at this and and presenting it to us so um a question if the board adopts this new model when would

184it go into effect uh we've already distributed for this school year so it would go into next year the 25 the 24 25 year yeah so these these numbers are based on the 24 25s yeah thank you and I should say Mr millerberg has a question if no someone else here he's raising his hand is that okay if Mr Miller goes okay then Mrs neighor I I'm okay to wait my turn I just want to turn wait wait just a minute we can't hear you very well can you turn your volume up I was told told to turn it down last time and they digested it from your end is that any better a little bit higher a little bit can you put it all the way up sure that's all the way okay um

185let us yeah let us um work on that and then I'll come back to you okay because we still can't hear you very good so Mrs Nar so it looks to me like the high school most affected would be Jordan high school with the 10,000 that seems to be a larger impact that they would feel and I'm just wondering if we've reached out to Jordan High School to see how they're currently spending that money there was a gentleman here from the SEC last meeting I talked to afterwards and that's at the SEC at Jordan and he was talking about some of the things that he believes they spend that sell Tower money on that I would love to see how they would make up that difference uh I'll be honest I have not talked to

186Bruce about this each school as again does their own plan as I said you Mr Sherwood is raising his hand in the back so could you come forward laugh my joke um so we actually met about all of this because we knew it would impact the high schools most substantially and actually the high schools voted unanimously to do a equal split which would have been a much larger impact they're they're very thankful that especially Jordan that we're going with a smaller Dent but Bruce was actually okay with the equalized distribution so I think they'd be very happy with this okay thank you Mr Sherman thank you okay any other questions board Mr Edo this is this is less of a question and just more of a comment that this is this is really conflicting for

187me um uh just because the Jordan feeder system is um disproportionately affected uh in terms of funding loss as as the Jordan feeder system has a lot of cell phone towers with um with Jordan and then Park Lane but at the same time I really appreciate um the overall increase in distribution to the elementary schools I know um when I worked with the school community councils and was on the school community council at the elementary level this was a big deal uh and I know that uh this will this will really this redistribution really will make a big impact um especially for our elementary schools um and so anyway there there's no real question there's no real answer I just those were my comments for that yeah elementaries seem to like it need it more

188because again as we said they didn't have discretionary funding available to them yeah more of a challenge for them yeah M are we back you want to try yeah sure yeah we can hear you now good you can you can hear me now yes um my question was just if this been discussed with a high school principes but it looks like Tom's already answered that question so um no answer needed okay anyone else okay I do have a question so that 30,000 I mean how long I mean I'm assuming that high schools have like a contract with cell tower carriers like are we going to have to be what I'm wondering is if in like five years are we going to have to look at that again right because the amounts may go up or

189or do we feel they're pretty steady so it won't need to be adjusted yeah good good question so the district keeps the contracts we're the one who negotiates the contract with all the carrier so how how it works is the carrier wants to put a tower on one of our properties they come to us first and then then we just you know they discuss this because they've already scouted out the school where they want it they come to us and we go over the plans with them then we take it to the SEC and make sure they're okay with it then we take it to the Planning Commission of the respective City to make sure it falls into the ordinance of that City then we actually bring it to the board we actually haven't done

190many of these late we haven't had many Towers lately so we haven't brought any to you and then you know then it goes up and then we do them get the money and do the revenue sharing and whatnot uh most of the contracts are 20 to 30 years you know the to obviously costs a lot of money for one you know Sprint or rise in AT&T to put a tower up so they us we usually go 20 to they want to go 30 or 40 years actually we try to limit it to 20 years uh so they're actually quite lengthy in time there's always that Clause that they can get out of it or we can get out of it and sometimes they do get out of it for for various reasons so it can

191impact them you know actually lost a tower recently so they had four now down to three but uh that that does happen but yeah we could always revisit it every couple years yeah okay okay thank you um so we do not have this down for Action requested so even though this is the second reading so um board would it be okay if we brought this back on consent for next meeting okay looks like everyone is nodding so and Mont are you okay with that yeah I'm I'm okay with that okay okay thank you okay that is that item so now we are on to Item B and that is long range planning committee this is a second reading and Leon Wilcox business administrator will also present this yeah so I have to say because of

192the holiday last week and busy schedule by all the committee members we were unable to meet as a committee so I have to say this is more less my my draft and my work here uh so any hopefully nobody has taken any of Katherine's Tomatoes but should be thrown at me and not at the committee uh what we've done here is what I've tried to do tonight is based on the comments from last board meeting we've focused on the short we call long long range planning but I'm on the short-term Focus things that we're looking to choose to do or elect to do here in the next within the next several months and so there's nothing here about a Innovation Center or anything like that uh we bring that back at other another meeting but

193it's just those things that are current schools that have been on our list you know through you through the board and through the Schools administration through our work through the community so things there uh so these are the this is what we've looked at in the past this slide we've gone over a couple times in past meetings but focusing on five five places Jordan high you know the on board loocks you have their C you know what we call their their feasibility study improvements to be made they're prioritize one twos and threes we're looking at doing priority ones same with East mon Jordan will be around 14 million that does not include the design cost that was just what we're estimating to be the construction cost Eastmont 10 million again not the design cost but

194just the the construction cost and you can see the areas that would look to address at each of those schools Corner Canyon would have to talk we'll talk about that uh on the sarer field how we want to go about repairing that is it with grass is it with Turf do we look at Turf in the softball field the base basball infield a Fieldhouse kind of a menu of options there same with Hillcrest you know we need to replace look at replacing the turf there that's our oldest field Turf it's been down about 12 years now and then also the track needs some improvements but it's a six Lane track do we look at expanding that to an eight Lane track like all the other four high schools which is quite costly and then relocating

195we're supposed to relocate the fuel tank at transportation and put it above ground rather below ground so uh again the issue is is how do we fund all these and so what I've done is you know when you our best option is we know we don't feel like now is the time to go out for a Geo bond is leas revenue bonds to do these and the thing about lease revenue bonds is you have to designate a specific address and tie the work to that address so how that how that works is you want to pick out specific areas or a specific location and do the funding with that as we did with Peruvian Park and Glacier Hill so they are tied to the work done at that address in theory if we do not

196make the bond payment on that they we have a thirdparty administrator which is Zion bank they could actually come foreclose on those schools if we don't make that Bond payment but we do have a moral obligation to make that Bond payment every year and that would be the same with these so if we do go that route we would have a third party probably Zion or Wells bank Wells Fargo Bank be the administrator over that if you will and you know they could we don't make that Bond payment on these lease revenue bonds they could actually come in and foreclose that no they wouldn't want to do that because they don't want to school right but neverless they could good but these would be you know the probably the recommendations toing Jordan Eastmont and corner

197with lease revenue bonds uh uh what I've done there is I've put together 38.5 million you know we can adjust that amount based on what we want done and as we get more work more with contractors and Architects try to hone in on the exact price of some of these upgrades you know that could be adjusted a little bit uh I'd recommend if we go this route issuing the bonds in March or April of 2024 and you know I'd like to add in at least contingency amount for both these because we our history has shown that what we project is usually not what it actually costs you know just you know cost have kind of somewhat stabilized but still you want to make sure you have a contingency in there also we do expect to

198get a a premium of you know close to $4 million on 30 $8 million of bonds that would that would need we need to do that as well we also need to make sure we include in our architect and our Engineers cost as well so what I've done here is I know last time I gave you one chart and I asked our that was about 32 million I asked our financial advisors at steel to increase that to 38 million that way we'd have 38 million plus the premium should I think and be able to complete everything uh you know you can see you know the blue is what the as we said last time the orange reddish is where we're at the blue is where we need to go but we don't have enough funding

199on goinging to pay that blue we need about $3.7 million annually to increase to make that payment on an average home that's about $38 you know last time it was 36 32 but we were around 32 million instead of 38 so all depends on how much we want to do at the scope of work we want to do at and all the projects are in a combination uh as we went over in the study session with the Acer you know we had a deficit there so that needs to be addressed as well as we move forward that's note number one no number two is actually a positive uh rates have decreased if you go down I15 you see all those mortgage rates you know they were was 7 a half% I think today this morning

200I saw 6.875 so rates have kind of come down a little bit our borrowing would be from about four about in early October down to about 3.55 as of last week so come down a little bit which is good news we would recommend if we go with the hell Crest track and the transportation fuel tank that we don't use leasee revenue bonds for those we don't think that's a big enough projects to do that that would use you know proceeds from our property sales or from ongoing uh ongoing uh tax revenues to fund those uh we also have a couple other small Pro capital projects we' like to do this summer we hope to bring those to you as part of this reading next meeting we're looking at a roof and a carpet replacement at

201one school and a couple other minor things but if we do these projects it's going to take a lot of Manpower so we don't have a lot of money or time bandwidth to put it other small capital projects and fortunately the list isn't too great or needs are too great I think for this upcoming summer uh but let's just talk about what we could look at Jordan high again the priorities we've gone over there somewhat and they're on board dos there uh you you know the main areas would be the field adding a Fieldhouse parking a blackbox theater restrooms upgrading the auditorium uh last Tuesday a week ago I spent a lot of time with Bruce Tom and I spent a lot of time with Bruce walking that building and looking at things we could

202do and getting trying to get the biggest bang for our buck right off the bat there uh we are working with mhtn uh on their design fee and the proposal we expected that to be around 7% of their contracted cost we may have that ready for you next next board meeting if we go this route we'd like to get out at RFP to our contractors and have someone on board by about March so they could start work you know getting ordering the long lead items and planning the work out so really we're ready to go when school gets out on June 1st moving you know making improvements right off the bat we start the Fai t house we think that would take 12 to 18 months to complete depending on supply chain uh supply chain

203has really uh gotten so much better than it was a year ago but the main thing are large electrical items a lot of those come from the Ukraine and China so it takes time to get those here and so it's mainly large Transformers if we have to have those we may not need any of those but if they are you know that that they' have been over a year out getting those in here uh we'd also start right off the bat the johann's old johanna's site doing Park doing some parking upgrades there uh Bruce's big thing to to impact all students right off the bat would upgrade the auditorium with the sound lighting and uh the AV you know they've had to rent equipment for the last fall play so we'd like to get that

204improved and fixed for next next next year's play and then we start upgrading the restrooms we' do a systematic approach we just shut down you know a set of boys and gills restrooms update those then shut down another one and work systematically throughout the building it take may take about three to four months for each set a couple may take two years to complete them all but that's what we'd be doing there uh we'd also like to look at uh and these would probably be in the summer of 25 when we start these we looking at a two-year project really at Eastmont and Jordan to complete all the work because we have to work while the kids are there but uh improving the commons area the way finding just the overall branding of Jordan high

205uh we plan to consult Cindy our resident alumni of Jordan high she has some big ideas for us so uh and then as Steve mentioned one of the things we could be looking looking at is improving the daycare taking over a couple extra rooms in the preschool if we want to go that route so that's where he's again looking at starting that sometime so that would be ready in the fall of 25 to you know basically double both the preschool and daycare there but that is a you know that is a you know that's actually a priority to we'd want to look and see how far down we want to go on any priority twos there and also Bruce has said you know his he'd really like besides the daycare would be a priority to

206would be upgrading the locker rooms and I do think they need some upgrade there at that school again that's the top priority to so they're actually different colors about a million and a half each we're looking to do both those uh just you know here's some visuals where we're looking at here uh let's just start up the top by the football stadium we need to put put in a softball Press Box and some storage there under the stands would come down we' do a field house it' be similar to Bright highs Brighton is 50 by 5050 yards with the track but there's no upper deck or balcony they really don't need it because they won't be looking out to any any area uh you guys are looking back there but I'll point up here there's

207this with right there they have a tentative Black Box we actually plan to move that here in this little Nook here and connect that into the choir room the original plan was we look at making this the dance room convert the current dance room into a black box but the current dance room is actually very nice and we thought well let's not save the money there and just build on right here so that's what we're put the black box right there ties into the auditorium and the choir room if you will uh we're trying our best not to impact any of the tennis courts you know we have other we've looked at other versions but many of those are meaning we have to move the tennis courts or something like that so we're trying not

208to do that that's why we lock the Fieldhouse right there it connects right into the gym which we really like so it has that connection uh similar to Brighton's you know it connects you know mhtn course did brightens so we have that connection there and then the Jo parking would parking that we' lose here would gain over here we could also convert parking in the driver's ed stalls at driver ed range down here into parking if need be so I don't think parking will be an issue long term I think we can recoup everything that we take then we'd work inside the building with the auditorium so again this also shows that oops sorry we look here at the black box it's actually showing right here in this corner Fieldhouse into the gym uh we

209would work on a vestibule whether that's this summer or next summer because that could be part part of the uh of the commin upgrade one of the things that Bruce didn't want to do and we don't want to do is impact Digger Dan and so we want to be careful of working around that how that works so look so lots of things still to be determined as we work through there but our goal would be to get moving on some things right off the bat go ahead Rick yeah Le just one question on the softball Press Box and storage does that include con a concession stand under that's similar to baseball I know that's been a yeah it that is included in that they can do a little barbecue type thing that's good okay thank

210you yeah yeah so those are you know those in red would try to get going going on right when school got out as well as the auditorium and working through the bathrooms so visual there let's move on to Eastmont same type thing there main areas would be the gym floor the groundwater we've actually done some what they called you technical thank you thanks Chad going down 30 feet deep to find out where we can find the water we haven't actually found any yet and we think in uh last year we should have seen a whole lot but uh going digging down for that uh the elevator's big the roofs big the classroom the vestibule again kind of the same timeline we we're working with MHT on on a fee proposal issuing a con issuing RFP

211for a contractor getting them on board and getting you know any long lead items and beginning June 1st on replacing or upgrading making these upgrades so right off the bat it would be starting this June would be replace the roof probably wouldn't have that done by time school starts you're probably going to be into October probably four months to do that but I think we could do that without really impacting the school right you know the sound replace the elevator replace the gym floor they may not have the gym floor right school starts we we spent quite a bit of time last two weeks ago with Stacy as we walked through this and looked at this with her uh you know maybe starting in May once the weather warms up we'd have the gym classes

212outside and then we could start tearing up the old gym floor we have to do some abatement work there and get a month ahead that way uh and then was similar to Jordan was look at the restrooms take one set at a time and just work through the building that way so again trying to get a bang right off the bat there I think the biggest bang at at for Eastmont would be upgrading the classrooms I think that's the big thing that we've got to do there so right now as we talked with Stacy walk to a building uh the ya Youth Academy has three classrooms there right now next year would need to relocate that somewhere we haven't determined the location but we'd have to move them somewhere that and there's also one or

213two other vacant classrooms so I would free up about four or five classrooms that we just rotate the core teachers through if you will then we go into those classrooms and just update them uh so we look at uh you know we remove the carpet the wall carpet would paint the walls update the lighting the ceiling tile and grid know this up here oops uh replace the caret upgrade the AV the teacher you know east's unique that it actually has teacher offices it's the only school that really has those and so the teachers really want to keep those would just leave those as is won't do anything with those so here's a layout of e eastm they classrooms are in four area blocks if you will mainly throughout the building couple two blocks we just

214select a block go in move move everything out do all the repairs that I said and then move move them back in if that will and just rotate through the school probably take a couple years to do that that would be the biggest Bang there at Eastmont you know because nobody's going to see the roof we only let PE on all our middle schools we only let kids who need an elevator pass ride the elevator so most kids will never be on the elevator but or they won't see the water coming up there from the groundwater but the the biggest bang will be the classrooms at Eastmont uh and then down in the gym we'd look at of course doing the gym floor and upgrading the locker room locker room would probably be as I

215say that here uh that would be in the June of 25 I don't think we'd get to that this summer we'd also look at June 25 updating the office area because then you know they'll need to move out for several months into one of those vacant classrooms and then we'll make put in the secure vestibule and update the office area there try to impr improve the flow even though it's actually pretty good there the work flow at at Eastmont there so uh so there's there's the there there are the two big ones there and what what we're tedly planning there so appreciate Bruce and Stacy spend a lot of time it's not hard to see why they uh were so well deserving the Apex award based on the passion they have just for their school

216the students their community and they want the best facilities for them so really appreciate their leadership and all they're doing us out with that uh moving down to Corner Canyon um I uh I have to say I I haven't had a chance to meet with Dena or her staff there so on this but the decisions we got to make I think the decisions here on Corner Canyon or or what to do do we Turf the soccer softball and baseball fields some none whatever uh if we did we could probably start in June and we'd likely be done by the end of the summer you know August September time frame with those well at least excuse me with the softball and baseball field we could do it pretty much over the summer soccer if we do

217a Fieldhouse there we want to do the socer in conjunction with the Fieldhouse they don't have to be you know we don't have to just do a Fieldhouse to do the soccer what vice versa but they'd you do them both then we'd want to do them in conjunction the fied house like Jordan would probably take 12 to 18 months to complete we may need a Transformer there we don't know because you got to pull power across from the building whereas Jordan it's connected to the building so it's a little different there uh uh on the field house we'd like you know what it would what it look like would it look like Brighton and Jordans you know that 50 by 50 wider space area or would you like a upper level similar to Al or

218Hill Crest but smaller Turf you know that's why I think the school ought to have some input on that again we haven't had a chance to meet with them if you do that upper level it's going to cost you know million two to million five just to build that and to put in the stairs and mainly the elevator uh for that so there's more costs there uh if we do all this the sarer field probably would not be accessible next all of next year so they' have to look at playing no games somewhere else here's a couple renderings here so here what we'd do is we'd actually this shows the field housee if you put the Fieldhouse this would be the Fieldhouse if you put the Fieldhouse you would rotate the soccer field east west

219of course obviously there would be a home field advantage because the corner cany would always want to face East in the afternoons right make the opponent pip the sun uh but you can see would it would go right right there we would also eliminate some of this burm use it to fill in over here we'd have to put in what we call a storm Tech drainage system in this area here here's where the Fieldhouse would be so you could look at you know this the orangish area would be a you know that upper level if you wanted to do that that's how that would look if not you could have the whole thing blue you know have more field space if you will so uh that's the design that we' look at there uh there

220here's a outside rendering this would be close to what Jordans would look like so you know looks great looks similar to a little bit like a actually uh this architect firm has actually never done one for us but they've done others core architect they've done several around the state but this is how it would look here's how the possible inside will look you know we could hit golf balls and batting cages and all that stuff there so and interior rendering they do have a running track if you went with the smaller size you probably wouldn't be able to have the running track bigger size like Brighton and and Jordan you could let's move down to Hill crest the tur and track you can see there it's six Lanes what to do to make it eight

221you'd have to actually remove this concrete here to wien out you can't go into the foot the field here because the diameter doesn't line up and you wouldn't have to to to race so you got to go outside and that's the problem there so you'd have to move mainly it's here on this West Side the home stands but you'd also have to move some of this over on the east side the visitor St stands as well uh here's how it would kind of look uh again the eight Lanes all starting lanes and we'd have to remove score the scoreboards and uh and also of course put down the new Turf as well so so when I talked to principal levit about the concrete and the age of the concrete his uh counsel and advice was

222that while we're at it that looking at and I think you you mentioned this but not just the seating on the home side but on the visitor side as well that there'd have to be some work done yeah on on both sides and just thinking about what what that seating might look like and how we address the concrete issues just getting it done this time around so we don't have to address it but he feels like over time M you would probably have a better feel for this but the age of that concrete as it is aging and has aged that it's beginning to crumble at different places and it's original it's the origin so it hasn't been updated since then you know that's why they only have a six Lane track is then they

223but it would address both sides both sides okay that is something that you you know that'd be more cost but that is what we did at Brighton you know we actually took out the home stands and then the remodel there and put in new ones there but you could do that uh I have we haven't got a price on to do that but you we did a we did new new concrete kind to think back on bright couple years but we did all new concrete and put in the new stands yeah I mean I'm just thinking about what our options maybe we look at that in planning but um thinking about you know and maybe I don't know what type of assessment it would take to understand how much longevity do we have left in

224the current state of the concrete that's there I mean if it's going to continue to fall apart and weaken then it may be worth it to invest in it now and just fix it get it done while we're there so just a thought sure uh then uh last slide I think is Transportation uh and I should note that these fuel tanks we actually have till the sum we actually have till June of 2025 to do this so we were planning on doing it this summer but we if needed to we could delay it a summer you know we do need I think if this I think the state would be understanding if we are in the process of moving out in June of 25 they'd probably be understanding and and doing it but we're supposed

225to remove this underground tank right here and then we put in a above ground tank it'd be looking at about 12,000 gallon tank right there yeah it's big and go through a lot of fuel right we move it over in this uh uh kind of Southeast corner there what we'd want to do because we're going to lose parking is we'd want to take a little bit of this strip of this field here and and take that it shouldn't impact the play fields and again we we'll have plenty of play field space at Union but we'd want to take a little bit of that space so we could pull the buses around and you know make sure we can fuel from both sides of that so you know because we got 140 buses we just fueling

226on one side would not work we'd have to be able to fuel on both sides and not take up too much space there but we also need you know some of you may remember about six years ago I want to say we did all the asphalt around here but we didn't do this South piece here we'd also upgrade that asphalt as well again when you have heavy buses running daily over your asphal that does tend to crumble fairly quickly so we want to upgrade that but that's what we'd look at on the on the fuel tank side there again we could that a year or plan was to do it next year Sumer 24 we could delay it a year so with that uh that's all I have oh I should mention uh with my

227lanard the Denver's on a five game winning strip right how the Raiders is doing but anyway any of the other questions Move Along okay any questions or comments a lot to discuss I know but we tried to try to make it more narrow and focus here okay board who wants to start this conversation anyone oh okay M would you like to start sure thank you for uh knowing that I'm still there um just a couple of issues first one is Leon I'm I'm looking at your fourth Slide the one that shows the funding options issuing the 38 million dollars of uh lease revenue bonds yeah I would like to have you provideed is a graph that shows where we started when the district started where we had the big chunk of the old Jordan Bond

228and we layered bonds over the top so that the taxpayers would not have an increase in their property taxes and as we paid that paid that off we layered the next group over with the second Bond uh with a minimal tax increase if I remember correctly we've already taken in general obligation bonds over a half a billion dollars from our taxpayers uh plus the old Jordan Bond and it just it just starts feeling like to me that the the bonding will never end that uh and now now you're looking to do a tax increase uh for the taxpayers that fund the the G or the uh lease revenue bonds and you know kind of the uh reasoning behind that is we've been impacted by inflation but I'm here to tell you as a homeowner in

229the district uh I have been impacted by inflation as well and so I I want to think really long and hard about asking our patrons and the other residents of the school district to Pony up more money because it's starting to feel like we are just H never ending having our hand out wanting more yeah if I could address that and come back to me when you're done because I have a couple others to follow on the end of that oh yeah and we could put together a graph keep in mind you know the least General obligation bonds are paid for from a completely different tax levy and so uh so we could put together that graph but I don't think it would impact here because when you issued lease revenue bonds you have to

230you can't is you can't uh you know the voters did not have the opportunity to vote on a Geo Bond therefore you can you can't apply a debt to them or Levy to them so you have to the only other financing sources through ongoing or property taxes which is our Capital Levy and to pay that debt you'd have to do an increase here I I concur with Mont in that you know we just did lease revenue bonds three years ago for two schools we need to be cautious if we want to go down that route uh keep going down we just can't keep going down that route every few years we got to make sure this is probably it for several years and that's the problem and that's if you want to go down that

231route the other option is you know you just have to delay these projects you know and that that's an option too you know we we can get by you know Jordan's still a pretty good school we'd have to try to get by the best we can with Eastmont but you know you'd have to just delay these projects too because we as we've went over we just don't have the budget right now the funding right now to address those improvements well and Leon I want you to know that I am fully on board with Jordan high and eastm yeah uh on what they're asking for I think those are priority items um I'm very very surprised with Corner Canyon High School um one of our newer schools and when that was built when Corner Canyon was

232built they built three gymnasiums in the school and you know years later when we came back and we're doing the rebuild on Hill Crest in Brighton we in both cases we opted not to build a third gym because the Fieldhouse was a more economical solution to give us more area to utilize and so you know it just kind of seems a little bit out of whack that we have a gym or a school with three gyms wanting a field house and I don't know if you have plans now to go back and add the third gym to other schools uh and the thing that really really surprised me at Corner Canyon is uh I hadn't really focused in on it until we were out on the fund bus delivering the uh The Innovation grants and

233walked into Corner Canyon and we're so concerned about Athletics we're not even thinking about a vestibule you can walk in that school and the safety concern there causes me great concern and I'm you know I'm behind the idea of repairing the fields at Corner Canyon because to me those two are safety items but I'm just kind of wondering uh we really want to have one of our show places of one of our most beautiful high schools without a vestibule yeah uh you know then as I said I think I said it both I'm you know that's why I said if approved I was asked just to bring everything here uh that being said you know if approved if you want to go that route I am nervous I'll go on the record about a field

234house at Corno Canyon for that for that very reason that they already have three gyms and I am nervous about the turf because if you Turf one you're probably going to turf turf at one school you're probably eventually going to Turf at the other four or five schools it should be said that four schools I should say it should be said that two weeks ago Rick and I and Tom had a very good meeting with all the High School principles about about this issue about you know we just there's no way we're ever going to get perfect equity in the district all our schools are different our campuses are different our buildings are different we're never ever going to get there and they were you know they were are our as you know our High

235School principles are great they were supportive with whatever we chose but they said hey we can't you know we can't project that if we go Turf Corner Canyon fields that other schools aren't going to come demand the same thing within one or two or three years and then then you're going more money and whatnot so again all Corner Canyon's the the the tough one here and it's what you know you guys want to do we're here to support and try to answer and give you as much information as you need you you skipped the vesu yeah the VES will yeah uh intentionally skipped no well yeah I apologize for that we could look at putting one in there yeah uh uh yeah it hasn't come to this level of of the long range planning though

236so okay this is Nar well first off I I support the much needed improvements meeting to do for Jordan High School and Eastmont um and I think that we've we have studied this out and I'm so grateful I had asked that we go talk to eastm and principal and facility manager which has happened so I'm grateful for that as far as Corner Canyon goes Corner Canyon's 11 years old so I know we keep saying it's one of our newer schools but we did just do you know big remodels of Brighton and Hill Crest and um and in the meantime Corner Canyon when it was first built as we have talked about before in board meetings the the fields have always been an issue it's we have a really a big problem with water retention and

237the water table there and BMS were placed erroneously so that it creates like this bow effect and so it's very swampy it is unsafe as Mont was talking about it's absolutely a safety issue and for 11 years Corner Canyon has talked about it and appealed to the district and said hey you know we have players that are getting injured from this uh the practice field in fact this last year all the girls soccer games at home were done on the football field because we actually have teams that refuse to play on our Fields because they're worried about their athletes getting injured so I appreciate that M mentioned it was a safety issue it is the reason why um the turf maybe a possibly a good idea is because we've had soil experts go out there

238several of them we've looked at this problem and and uh there's plenty of people out there that are saying I'm not convinced that whatever you do here is it's going to totally resolve the issue and so when we're looking at the amount of money to put in drains and try get rid of that water where you know there's puddles and Dock and Ducks there nesting it's going to be difficult um and so the the turf is an idea of a long-term solution so we don't have to keep pouring money in I know we have other fields in the district that also have some water issues but none to this level um I I don't know of any other you know area that we have you know teams saying we won't play we're we're varsity teams

239here and we we refuse to play on your field so and so that that's the issue with the turf as far as the Fieldhouse goes uh it is difficult because you know when we look at those ox gims and you're when you're referring to three gyms you know those Ox gyms are much smaller and we have lacrosse we have baseball and softball and all these people practicing and those if you go in those Ox gyms at Corner Canyon and look up there so many holes in that ceiling and so many tiles that are broken it's not a great it's not it's not great as far as the safety issue is for that either we have some some really damaged ceilings in there um the idea that's great that we have seen from the three other

240high schools that have build houses and why I'm so excited for Jordan to get it as well is that's every day a PE class that can be using that facility and that's looking at whole child and you know healthy lifestyle and physical education that we can't I think that we can't um we can't say that that's not a a great thing to do we have um if you look at the amount of of of students that participate also on all those teams it's very difficult and you could talk to our custodians at Corner Canyon because of all the different and we got to think of Dance and Cheer also it's very difficult to manage those schedules and be able to get the custodians to be able to lock up at a decent hour and a

241lot of youth programs that run through there as well as they do in all our high schools but that's one thing you learn as you go and I think that's one thing that that ala you know has really their their Sports programs to said has been a huge benefit to them is to have that filled he so so that is you know when we're talking about I think if we have a filled house at all of our other high schools and not Corner Canyon um you know I think that that that probably isn't the best idea um and also when you look at how much money we've bonded and what we've spent on on Remodeling and just recently what we did to remodel the music room at alah high I think that we need we

242need to look at at this from an equity perspective too and make sure that some of these needs that we're we're not just saying oh you're the newest high school because by all intensive purposes 11 years old and these other high schools that have just been remodeled it doesn't necessarily feel like the newest high school at this point and we can't ignore when there's needs that need to be met is my thought on that okay thank you who wants to go next oh sorry Andrew did Mr edel yeah Mr Ed um so first off Leon I really appreciate this slide deck that you've provided for us um it it answered I mean it it was really easy to follow it it answers a lot of questions um and so obviously I I think that it's

243really important that we move swiftly um on this especially for our our Jordan feeder system uh you know the the issues at Jordan High School are are really not trivial issues they're they're pretty significant issues um you know same with eastm I know you mentioned the elevator most kids don't go on the elevator but I would encourage all of us to take a visit and ride on the elevator I I I I wouldn't it may be your last elevator ride um and uh but but I would absolutely like to see us um move swiftly on this I also like that you included the potential um of looking at a couple of those priority 2 items um such as the locker rooms um I know that it was it was it was bumped to that next

244level but the locker rooms are a big deal especially as we're looking at um our holis Sports programs and um not just our Sports programs but but a lot of our our activities that we have there um and these are activities that keep our students in school they activities that keep our students engaged um and without these programs we wouldn't have the level of Engagement that we have and especially for our Jordan Community I think that's absolutely essential I also wanted to mention Corner Canyon um real quick I want to point out that we shouldn't look exclusively at what does one school have versus another school uh we should look at what does the community need uh and each of the communities have different needs so when I first look at Corner Canyon and especially

245compare it to Jordan uh you think my goodness why would they want anything right um but then you learn things like uh even their stadium seating is inadequate um where they have a lot of stadium seating um the the Corner Canyon Community has different needs uh and so we really need to look at it too as is this a need for that Community is this a need for those students um because it's going to be different um our Hillcrest Community our Jordan Community um all of our high schools have different needs and we need to address those needs um and while we want Equity among our students we also have to make sure that the communities have what they need I mean you you could build more and more stadium seating for Corner Canyon and

246then put that same in Jordan um and Corner Canyon would fill it up uh whereas Jordans might be adequate right so what I'm saying is equity is important but the needs of our communities are important which is why we have representative school boards so that we can advocate for the specific needs of our community okay thank you Andrew um Mrs tingi thank you um this is really a important discussion and I'm grateful that we are spending the time on it um I I don't want to kind of um repeat things but I I just similar to Mont I just kind of looked through that list and I just I just kind of thought you know the the Fieldhouse at Corner Canyon I just can't quite get there that it's it's a critical need yes it

247might be a need but I'm not sure it's a critical need and I look at the um I look at the lists for Jordan and Eastmont and um I think there's quite a few things on that priority too that I would say a little bit more critical than you know the Fieldhouse um as far as the soccer fields and and that I understand the safety and I see that as critical and I and I I had one question but Holly kind of answered it for me about you know you put the cost in there what it would be to Turf those playfields but was do you have an idea of cost of if it wasn't Turf but just did the drainage and try to reconstruct them and and How likely would that be to solve

248the problem just the sarer field again the sarer field uh sorry slide to apologize so the sarer field to go in there put in what they call a storm Tech drainage system so there basically an underground you know under there's a water collector underground so it's basically an underground uh big barrels if you will that collect the water funnel it down into the storm drains that go down to the pond by the road then into the into the district see what we'd have to do into the cities excuse me the cities storm storm drainage system what we'd have to do is raise the field up about six to 12 inches that' be removing that BM and then put in this Tech and then put the grass back on that cost just for the the soccer

249fields about 2 and a half million right there that's that cost right there uh if you put in the turf you'd have that cost plus another 800,000 if you will to put in the turf okay and what about the softball and basball to do the fields there I I don't have a cost on those should be said that corner you know again equity and and every District's every school's in a different part of the distri It's just tough to get grass to grow there you know let's just be honest it really is and so uh you're probably in that same you probably don't need the same drainage cost I don't think the drainage is as bigest deal but to get grass to grow there is just a challenge and so you'd have to look at

250something there I I don't know what that would be so with with that reasoning then it might not be come something where the other schools start expecting it because they have different circumstances there they there is yeah in my opinion there's different circumstances that being said that doesn't mean a community won't really push hard for something in the future and that be the you know because Brighton you know is right up against the mouth of the canyon right whereas so they're going to get more snow up there their fields drain better we're going to get more snow but you know a corner not by to mouth but you know those bills just don't drain we can't get grass to grow there so but yeah there's yeah okay and then um and then kind of on

251the also to um the point about how much we're borrowing I I just I just think we have to be very very careful where this is targeted funding and we know it's going to increase taxes that we have to really keep it to critical needs and top top priorities um and I think safety is one of the top priorities that we should consider so so I guess I'm I'm just saying that you know either maybe we look at you know cutting down that total price of what we would issue lease revenue bonds for or adding projects from the Jordan and eant lists is what my thought is adding adding on the list to okay either cutting how much we're going to borrow or maybe substituting from the Fieldhouse cost substituting things from the Jordan Eastmont

252list I I would like to see what that would look like if we did that okay Mrs thank you Mrs pon we've discussed a lot of the questions that I had and I do like how this was laid out Leon it it was very easy to follow and it made a lot of sense um I do feel like many like a couple of my other board members Mont and Nancy and that we need to make sure that we're looking at the absolute Necessities first and and budgeting for that and then look at what we can expand to later um because if you look at the list of the needs at Jordan and Eastmont other than the Fieldhouse they're Necessities they're just you know things the buildings need due to their ages and so um I'm

253not saying don't put a Fieldhouse there but um I think we need as a committee we'll just need to get together and really talk about what are our absolute highest priority and if we do need to trim down where would it be where would it be trimmed to be fair to our taxpayers um I I agree with Mont that corner Canyon needs their field taken care of but before they get a Fieldhouse I really do think they need a vable vestibule I'll say it right um for security purposes we have both Jordan and Corner Canyon are the only ones that are not protected and we're talking safety first um fields are safety vestule safety field house is nice you know it's needs and wants and I think we need to do our needs first and

254then we can add those in if we feel like we can handle that we may be able to save money somewhere else um maybe we don't fix the track or this you know right now and we put that down the road if that's not a high priority for the their for that school you know if Hill Crest isn't saying yeah I absolutely have to have two more Lanes then maybe we can put that down the down a ways on the list and and then we need to make sure we always move those up so so that as we're looking in the future that we're able to move through those wants and needs and be able to address those but um I like how things have been laid out how they would work on it I

255kind of would like if you did middle school if you did Eastmont that we did the second floor first if I get to pick only because the cafeteria is so bad and it's on the second floor and every student goes there everywhere and so um if that if you're going to do it floor by floor and piece by piece you know the the main floor the third floor with the library looks pretty good then you go down to second floor and it's it starts getting worse as you as you go along so I'm just saying being in the cafeteria and you see Holes in the Floor from the desks um from the tables and where people have been walking all these years it's it's and the colors are depressing anyway it needs it needs some

256help it needs some help so I just recommend that we do that floor first if we're going to do do that um I'm kind of hoping we can keep the Youth Academy in Eastmont if we can find a place we can move them around and not completely pull them out because I think the location is really a good location for the district so we'll have to talk about that as a committee you know we as I talked with Stacy you know we felt like the programs she had there would probably be permanent but you know the pulling it out for that year to so you just move move as long as it wasn't a permanent move them out because I think the location is an ideal location you don't see that right now okay great

257not temporary one year maybe two years I that's it okay thank you Mrs Oaks okay so lots of thoughts um first of all um good catch M about the security vest Fel you're right it really does need to be done and I'm curious about um how much Le I know you have a ton of information information in your brain answer but I'm not expecting you to hold on to exact amounts but do you remember what the estimation was for a security vesu for Jordan High School at know it's it to depends on how you do it first and foremost uh because you usually have to do remodeling in the office Jordan's probably two to 250 Corners probably maybe a little bit more 250,000 yeah okay I do think that that does need to be prioritized

258and that I don't know why we haven't talked about it in Long Range we always run out of time in there so maybe I shouldn't be surprised but okay so that that is something I think we need to talk about with regard to the fields um I think we're all on the same page they need to be done I um I will say I've had extensive conversations with not only um parents of the soccer team but particularly the softball team um some of my board members might not be aware that the softball team bless their hearts um have regular uh fundraisers just to earn money for um fertilizer and additives for the soil like they've actually had people come out separately to help them figure out what needs to be added to the soil because

259the soil there is really problematic so they're constantly trying to raise money with the community or whatever it's and they go out and they take care of their fields it's almost embarrassing like it's it's a lot and um I I'm not totally certain that the drainage system that you talked about is going to fix everything I mean I I do think that there is a compelling argument to be made that we might need Turf there in order for it to be Equitable you know when we talk about Equity it's we talk about the different boxes that kids stand on so they can all see over the fence Well the box of what we're dealing with in terms of the grass out there and just the ground itself is not the same so um I think

260that's something to be considered with regard to um the field house I think it's important to remember that we are going to see if we do lease revenue bonds even though it doesn't go out the same way that a geob bond does that we are going every resident in our district is going to see a tax increase on their property taxes right and Draper residents residents are are part of th those who will be seeing increase in their costs maybe more proportionally depending on on the home and its value but but when we look at the list here The Lion Share of expenses are definitely going to Jordan and Eastmont and for me I'm going to be just totally straight forward I am pained to see that much money going to a building that has

261that many problems I want to clarify though I do have loyalty to the Eastmont Community I just don't have loyalty to the building feels like very much like a leaky bucket and it's hard for for me like in this role to be like yeah this a great idea now I know that we've talked a lot about a lot of other options about you know do we do a different rebuild do we do this do we that and no solution is going to be perfect I I understand that I just when we still can't figure out where the water is coming from it just is infuriating and it's not your fault it's nobody's fault but it just is inexplicable so anyway I I think that that is worth considering I I recognize that absolutely Jordan has

262a lot of needs and I'm supportive of of trying to meet those needs as best we can I think that um Eastmont if it's the only option we have in order to keep that school Community together then I'm willing to go that direction but I I don't think that we necessarily walk away and say that Corners um what what their needs are are irrelevant and I definitely think if a security vestibule is that much Within Reach that we need to prioritize that so anyway okay Mrs Nar thank you I was going to talk about the security vesle as well and I totally agree and I think it should be prioritized and I think if we and I appreciated Mrs Oak's comments with the taxes I think it would be great to bring back a report

263of the money we've spent in the last s years to which high schools the difficulty I know but if it was on this slide tonight the difficulty we face is we're saying oh you know Corner Canyon that that filled house is not really totally necessary last year we all came together as we had darling music school students from alah high saying hey guys in the remodel there was a a major Gap here and we didn't think about storage for music instruments and we really need to change this and all of us here went ahead and said yeah you know what that's right we need to have storage of instruments and we made that change and it was $4 million to remodel that and the amount we're looking at this fi house is much less and

264I think it's I think it's difficult when we're saying you know there's these needs it fills a I think it it can be perceived by that community of a little bit of reverse discrimination I think they've been told for the last 10 years you're the new school but we're going on year 11 and it is a real need that that that field house uh Mr edel spoke um about it well we actually have a real problem with seating people in the stadium if you were ever to go to a game there's a couple hundred people on the outsides of the fence that stand and watch the entire game and actually the seating we have in that stadium is less than some of our other schools um I I love our other schools I'm grateful for

265the money we put into the Brighton High School Community it's beautiful I I love their their new facilities and you know and and what that's done for the community as well as Hill Crest and and we've we've done these projects and and it's been an investment but it's also been a wonderful investment where the community is excited right about the facilities and it helps it helps our programs it helps our kids and I I think that we do need to really think about this if we look at the spending in the last seven years and this is something the community is asking for U and it to me it's within reason if every single one of our other high schools has a filled house that it's something now we can talk about different priority lists

266but it seems like that's something we should not ignore especially when you know all of those folks and Draper their taxes will be going up for these projects as well as far as the fields go our coach your baseball coach I failed to mentioned this before but he donates a good 10 to 15 hours a week when the when the snow is melted to his Fields so um when we're talking about the the boxes on the fence with Equity it's very true that what we're dealing with on those fields is is so so difficult and and um and again as far as the the turf goes the soil experts that have come out to the school I know principal darl Jensen had several of them come out uh there has been assessments that says this

267is your best bet to get that water out but honestly the best thing would be to not try to grow grass there so so I want to make sure that our investment is sound that we're going to have a successful outcome with that thanks okay thank you Mr edel so as as this is now um a now issue uh I would like to not see this go back into a longrange planning committee as I don't feel that it's a longrange planning issue anymore I would like to see us um take action and to uh have a full discussion on whatever changes if any changes um as a full board at this point okay thank you Mr edel um so I I just have a few comments I I I am in favor of most of

268these projects I think they are safety issues I am in favor of adding the safety vegetable I think that's really important and that we should definitely look at that um I this discussion did help me kind of understand the turf because I did a have that question like why do why does it need Turf and I I feel better about that after this discussion um and I will say like I do I do think what Andrew said was wise the what does what does each Community need and um you know just some of what Holly said were the auxiliary gyms are smaller I mean I do feel like we should even if I mean maybe some board members are against it but I feel like we need to have a plan of when we're going

269to do a field house even if it's not right now we need to figure out when and I do have one question I would like um I'd like to kind of separate out the cost of the Brighton Turf option versus the Alta because this is the thing I've been to Alta games and no one is using that upper area which I know is isn't that like a million more dollars yes the F house the the balcony yeah the balcony our idea was like oh they can have parties and Overlook and watch the game okay I've never I've been to one meeting there or a couple meetings there but I just feel like it's not used that much and I don't know if if I want to justify spending another million just on that if it

270doesn't get used but maybe Corner would use it I don't know um okay so those are my thoughts and I I do also agree with Andrew like I think right now the board is discussing this like it's not going to really go back to long range planning I feel like we have to decide what is happening right now um so maybe I'm trying to figure out what to um ask for but I think Mont wants to say something so we'll let Mont go and I'll try to think of what to say to sum this up you know the uh the item on the list that is kind of what do I want to say it's absent because none of us have discussed it is the track improvements at Hillcrest High School and I just want

271to make sure that it gets equal airtime or at least some air time probably not equal but that is a huge deal when you talk about equity and the boxes along the fence uh you cannot host a regional tour track meet with six lanes and I've discussed that with principal levit that is a big deal and that is an important thing as far as hillcrist having Equity is being able to host a track meet okay thank you Mt okay so I think we want to bring this back for a third reading and yes mrsy um could could it when I agree we need to bring it back and we need to discuss it more as a as a board but could you bring it in the form of a couple of options like um like

272packages or you know option one two or three and and I you know I I would like to see one of the options be things that are safety or actual building functioning things like roofs and things like that so and um and then you know some of the other options as well and and I I just want to say I'm not opposed to a corner Canyon Fieldhouse I'm just not quite sure where it fits on the priority list in my mind okay thank you Nancy um I do think that's a good idea to come back with you know three options maybe the Athletics ones athletic facilities being um separate unless it's a safety issue um and then also can you get a price on the Corner Canyon safety vest like what that would be um

273another thing that might help us is if we could see the use and then like is there a need for the um oh my gosh I just BL like how how much use does the Corner Canyon like gyms get and is there is there really a need there and what what would they use it for will they really use it for PE or I mean I think that might help us we had a I guess Rick and I we kind of had a brief correct me if I'm wrong a few months back we had a talk with Dena uh yeah that'd use it for PE you know as Holly mentioned you know the the gyms AR ideal for soccer playing soccer they're not ideal for hitting baseballs they do have a bad Eng cage but

274they're not ideal for ground practicing grounding and they're not ideal for golf and and uh some of the other you know and Lacrosse too so you know so there's where the Fieldhouse does come in I [Music] know speaking of hillcrist they do have a i a regular class in their upper part there a yoga class on a daily well I don't know if it's daily AB day they have a class there that's used my preference of the fielded houses I'll go on the record and say I like Brighton the best because I think it's the most functional because it's just bigger that just but that overlooks nice but it's you know the functionality of you know I've heard both the the principal you know K said you won be nice if we had 15 more

275yards to passes to do the Full Pass football pass play package that we want to do you know it's just a little tighter that way so yeah but you know we can look at all options yeah okay thank you um Mrs Nar I just got a message from our principal there I just wanted to let you know um she reminded me of two things first off she said 100% we would use it for classes and the other issue at corner is they do feel a little bit like there's an equity issue between the sports lacrosse golf baseball softb softball and soccer because their fields have been less than ideal for 11 years they have actually felt like they're at a disadvantage than our other high schools and absolutely baseball golf golf softball and Lacrosse also

276do not feel like our gym floors the way it is that they can have their practices as well as the other high schools that have the artificial turf in the field houses so just a little comment from her thanks well we're glad dena's watching and tell her to go to bed because it's it's a school night okay Leon do you have an idea of what we want you to bring back hopefully yeah I think we have a Reon I will sit and talk and come up with a few options and see what we want to okay sounds great um okay then we I think we're done with this item and we can move on to staff comments and we'll start with the superintendent no comments tonight thanks okay next is Leon you better run I

277just wanted to I didn't mention it in the study session I just wanted to thank Danny Davis for all his work on putting together our a for that's a huge very few people know how big of an undertaking that is so I really appreciate him he couldn't make it and not because he had a family commitment but big thank you to him and that's all I have thank you okay thank you we're gonna start with Mrs nyar tonight I appreciate all the time and prepar ation that's been given to to the presentations today and for all the work I know it's a lot of hard work um in closing I I'm not going to um share all the things I've been doing I'm going to switch it up I just I do want to Echo

278the thoughts of um of Nancy being mindful of taxpayer money and I I would like us to also look at maybe proceeds we can get from proper sales and see if we can get that number down just a little bit of what we would be doing for a lease Revenue bond yet I want to Echo what Mr edel said I also believe that this is something that we should not hold on off hold off on and that we should move with Prudence forward and I'm G to end with that thank you so much okay thank you Mr edel I want to start by saying thank you to the alw PTA for a nice uh thank you basket that you sent me uh and then we had principal Smith in here from Co riew talking about

279some of Co riew success um what I feel wasn't adequately portrayed is the it feels like a totally different School in Copperview this year compared to last year um and I've been into the school a number of times and um it I'm not going to lie it was it was a pretty rough place um or so it felt last year and and it it doesn't feel like that at all anymore um the the atmosphere is is one of calm and learning um kids are happy uh we have really fantastic teachers and other staff members there uh you know at cop review it it it takes the whole school to um come together and do great things and while she showed that some of the numbers demonstrated just having been into the school both years uh

280it doesn't take you long to just feel the the amazing Improvement that's been made in that school and so uh I do want to highlight that and say thank you to Colleen and her whole team and then of course everyone here who uh voted for the additional supports for that school um it really is like uh a whole new school and I'm really excited for the whole co riew uh community as a result of that it's it's it's a pretty phenomenal change okay thank you Mrs Oaks okay so I got to attend along with Nancy the Arts Consortium meeting and um that was a great discussion we're talking about um what we want for our vision as an organization and or as a committee and one of the things we talked about was the importance

281of making sure that aligns with the Strategic plan and increasingly and I shared this with the superintendent I really feel like a lot of what the Arts consorti does ought to report or communicate with highquality learning because there's a lot of overlap and it feels like we're kind of working in silos we need to bring it together so anyway that's a thought that I've had lately um I want to congratulate again the boys football team at Corner Canyon High School for their state championship that was so much fun and fun to see um those students get so excited move to tears literally you don't get to see 18-year-old boys cry very often and when you do you just embrace it and and actually I I Rush from that over to ELA high school that same

282evening and to go watch Mean Girls which was phenomenal it was so great I couldn't believe how many strong leads they had to share was just amazing um yesterday uh the superintendent as well as some members of cabinet and and I were able to attend an important event um for the point and the point of mountain um stand mountain state land Authority signed a landmark agreement with its private sector development partner Innovation Point Partners this is something we've been waiting for for a while they've been in negotiations it finally happened and Innovation Point Partners has committed to investing more than $2.3 billion dollar in private sector financing to construct the buildings and amenities at the site so um they've mentioned that there will be more than 3,300 multif family residential units including 400 affordable housing

283units and very quickly our people there were able to Crunch their numbers and said that probably equates to anywhere between 400 to 2500 students at the point so we recognize that that means we need to start talking about how we're going to educate those kids and what that's going to look like and um the superintendent today reached out to um mayor mayor Walker of Draper and as well as Alan mat who's been overseeing the project of the point and um representative Jefferson Moss to have a meeting and discuss some more of this so there's more that's coming and but that's an exciting Milestone and I look forward to see what's going to happen Okay thank you Mrs oh Mr millerberg are you still there I am still here okay good um you know let me

284start off with I appreciate Andrew's comment about Copp riew um Co rview now Falls in his Precinct uh rather than mine but I have spent many years in and out of coppper viiew Elementary and I am thrilled to see the changes that are happening there as well um I'll be honest it saddens me that uh I no longer get to ask the people in that area to vote for me because I have a lot lot of really good friends that live in that part of midv um the other point I wanted to talk about is what we did tonight I found really really exciting if you've uh looked into critical conversations and we had critical conversations tonight as part of our board meeting we showed respect for each other we didn't always agree with each

285other but I think that we were for the most part extremely respectful of each other you know to borrow the words from our governor uh Spencer Cox we can and we must be able to disagree better and board members I thank you that we were able to disagree better tonight that was a big deal to me and I will just leave it at that okay thank you Mt Mrs tingy thank you I I agree it's been a really great discussion tonight and thank you to my fellow board members for that um I right before the break the holiday break I was able to visit a middle school art classroom and sat through two different class periods and it was so amazing to just watch a wonderful teacher skilled teacher interact with seventh and eighth graders

286and it was just thrilling and it made me grateful for the support that we have for the Arts in our schools but also the support we have for instruction and teaching and providing professional development and there were several Strategies employed that I remember hearing about in board meetings and and some of the other trainings and I just I was very very grateful for that opportunity um and then also I just wanted to thank the superintendent for conducting his listening tour again and all the various stops along the way I was able to participate or attend and observe anyway the one at Granite Elementary last week and and it's you know it's refreshing to me that our employees are willing to speak up and to say things and they say things respectfully and and that I

287think what you're doing superintendent is really great to building open communication and trust with with the employees and I I appreciate that and um and then finally I just kind of wanted to mention publicly that I will not be seeking reelection next year and um it's I approach that change with um very tender emotions but I am so grateful for the experiences and the people I've worked with the last 11 years and and um I have great confidence in the strength and the future of CSD and I'm looking forward to an amazing 2024 I think we're going to accomplish a lot of wonderful things so thank you okay thank you Mrs pon um in in study session in honor of giving Tuesday we know we had Black Friday and Cyber Monday and now we have

288giving Tuesday we had a presentation from The Canyons Education Foundation and I was impressed at the amount of things that they're able to do for our students and for our communities um I'd like to share uh a few things that they do for our students they help provide funding for resource closets in our high schools and also here at the district um they provide holiday support for many of our disadvantaged students those in in multiple schools and I also want to include not just the foundation but our students in in each of our schools I know that this is the time of year where so many of our um middle schools high schools and elementaries are all pulling together and thinking about service to one another and and to the people in their Community I'm

289always impressed Alie provides Christmases for families in their Community it's just amazing how they get that all organized and they run it all on their own and I know that uh I've heard of the baseball team over at Jordan going over and serving um meals so I know and I know coaches arrange these kinds of things and schools do those kinds of things but I don't think the community understands that we teach citizenship and by sharing with others and thinking of others and that we are building Community um they have the road home back to school night that they do they have college they help Finance our college application month where we make sure all our senior students or not senior Junior students get the opportunity to fill in applications to college they actually have

290a day where people sit with them and help them get that that completed and turned in and I think that that's a valuable asset to both our students and also to our parents because not all parent knows how parents know what's available and I think being able to do it here at school is amazing um they've also partnershi with a number of organizations to provide scholarships um they've facilitated $53,500 in private college scholarships they have summer camp scholarships for stem they help with my 529 College savings account scholarships um they help of course provide they provide our teacher Innovation grants and I didn't realize that they doubled they partnered with donor's choose um I knew as a teacher about donor's choose but I didn't realize that the foundation was helping to support that as well

291so that's amazing and we can do so many things with our students when we have the uh facility not the facilities but the materials to do those kinds of things they support and help us with our teachers of the teachers of the Year Awards to get $115,000 in cash prizes they do new teacher event to welcome our Stu our teachers in and now they're working on a new ace scholarship where they're going to do a scholarship to help um students become teachers or if a stu teacher in their first year teaching that they would have supports as well so it's amazing to me you you don't real realize how interconnected um the foundation is with our district but they are another Wing that supports us so well and I'm just so proud of all the

292things that they're able to do and and I hope that more people become aware of the kinds of things that they're able to do um they have members that are from all sorts of places um businesses like they have people from Draper City Council they have people from the credit union they have um Architects all sorts of different people in the community RH Miller company um Swire cocacola Mountain West Hogan construction barj Ranch I mean it's amazing the people in our community that they have bonded together and are here to support our students so I'd like to thank them for that work and that I'm thrilled at the things that they're able to accomplish and I'm hoping that we can continue to support one another and get get these things to our students um and

293that's about all I have to say okay thank you um I just want to mention a couple things um first of all I had my Utah High School Activities Association quarterly meeting um a couple of weeks ago and we voted to sanction Esports and I'm very excited about that and I want to thank um Tom Sherwood and Susan Edwards they have been working on that and I'm just excited because it just gives an opportunity for more students to participate in high school activities and it's a group of students that normally don't really connect with the school and I think it's just going to be great for them and that will be um starting in 2025 so in about a year um and then I just want to report to the board that um Nancy and

294I did work on that letter to Utah School boards Association and that was sent this afternoon and then also I want to add my thanks to the superintendent for doing the listening tour um I went to Ridge Crest this morning with him and um I just really appreciate that he is available and accessible to our employees and I really think that helps um build a positive culture in our district and the teachers had some really great questions and he answered them pretty good I'm just kidding he answered great anyway um so I just appreciate the board I want to add to what Mont said and I thought we had a great discussion and it was respectful and um we're just making progress I really appreciate this board and the opportunity to work with each of

295you and I call this meeting to an end thank you little after better people know in advance so and then bre

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