Board Meeting 2/21/2023

001[Music] I totally remember it very vividly and if Nancy remembers it and I do it happen okay you guys you know I would like to welcome everyone to the meeting of the Canyons Board of Education today is February 21st 2023. we're meeting at the district office located at 9361 South 300 East in Fenton Utah the first item on the agenda is remember my computer um the 2023 legislative updates and Charlie Charles Evans director of external relations will be um presenting that to us and I need to excuse remember and also Susan Edwards needs to be we'll turn the time over explain Mr Evans thank you appreciate you excusing Susan we've got a lot going she is sitting in outside right now and and we've had a very busy day and obviously going to have a

002very busy week so um I hope I could remember I'm gonna rely on you guys to ask me questions so they I guess the most important thing I can share with you guys today is they came out with a fine final uh Revenue projections today which is the numbers that they will Budget on um and while it was announced in both bodies that and the numbers were flat they were flat uh overall but the education uh bond which I will still persist in calling into education fund even though they don't do that anymore was down uh 115 million dollars in ongoing money and 115 million dollars in one-time money from their November projections the general fund was uh a little more than that and the transportation fund was down a little bit less so overall

003it balanced out but from our point of view the projections weren't as good as we had hoped and I can't decide usually that's a bad thing I think it is a bad thing but it does put a little bit of interesting pressure on the legislature on their two top what I see is their two top priorities anyway it's it they want to do a huge tax cut and they've already passed this voucher Bill and I think um they have reading between the tea leaves I think a number of legislators have received quite a bit uh going back after Bill and the way it was done and the way they um the thing they need to do and is they're telling their constituents that this isn't going to hurt public education and the only way for

004them to prove that is for the for public education to have a nice funding year and so the the education fund being down 150 million 115 million dollars ongoing and then wanting to do a big tax cut it's going to be interesting to see if they don't because I can't remember the time in the years that I've done this where they haven't met or exceeded the recommendations by the education sub-appropriations committee always always added just a little bit to it yeah yeah I've never seen them not hit that number and so it'll be I'll be very surprised in a year like this that they'd be willing to do that even with these numbers being lower uh than was expected so I don't know how that will affect the tax cut um I assume nobody's told

005me this and I don't know and maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part which I usually have paranoid thinking at this time in a year and that's usually the safest bet I assume that they won't be able to do as much of a tax cut as they wanted to do as they want to do but we'll see I mean we um we'll probably start hearing some stuff about that in the next 48 hours but I haven't heard anything as of yet so that's really all I know about the budget did you hear anything going on do you have anything those same numbers no I haven't heard anything um let's see so I think we're all up to date on on the voucher Bill there are still running they have one cleanup bill that's working

006its way through the system it was stated by the house sponsor there was uh they they did those special needs scholarship fund bill today while we while you guys were in closed session and and it came up in the course of that debate that those odd that those scholarships are subject to audit the sponsor of the voucher Bill said that there is another bill coming this session which will add those audits to the Utah fit scholarship as well that was the very first that I've heard about that so I haven't seen anything on that but obviously I think that is a good idea we'll just have to see what it is when it arrives we're we're still fighting or still I shouldn't say fighting we're still working on the school fees amendments bill it's really

007a moving Target you know one day it's got you know certain amount of money in it it's going to be ongoing and then the next day it's one time money and now it's not going to take effect until you know 2028 so they're trying to find the right subject and the right way to do that they can pass that bill I think we've done a lot of work on that I'm not sure with the way it keeps changing I can't really get a fix on how hard it is going to be it is going to be to kill I think they tried to put one-time money in there but so it would be easier to pass this year but that's a pretty difficult game to play up there everybody understands up there what one time

008money means you know when you say you've funding it with 23 million dollars the next question is that ongoing or one time everybody knows how that goes up there you know maybe you can pull some of your constituents that way but not very many people at the legislatures I I you know I I'm optimistic one day and pessimistic the next day on that bill I hesitate to predict uh what will happen a representative strong has worked very hard on this bill and he's um not been easy to pin down and it's something he obviously cares a lot about and I think everybody knows representative strong does represent part of our district so we work closely with him as we can but it's obviously something he feels strongly about um we've been working with um uh

009representative birkeland on the on her bill the criminal investigations of School Employees that bill was amended today to incorporate the language uh that we suggested making it clear that if we have an employee that is under criminal investigation we complete our own investigation and terminate that employees are the employee either resigns or we terminate their employment that we don't have to keep paying them through the length of the criminal investigation which was a little unclear the way the bill was originally drafted we think that that's been eliminated now that bill passed out a senate committee and I would look for it to look for it to pass a senate sometime this week the bill that would allow referendums on tax increases um has been circled at the top of the house third reading calendar uh

010as it as it worked out and we had our little had our little weekly meeting up there this week we had a chance to meet with that representative sponsored and it was representative Jay Cobb who represents Jordan School District learned in that meeting actually that representative Cobb's daughter goes to Hillcrest so even though he doesn't represent Canyons um people we kind of claim him as one of our own um remind you which I already did before that he was one of a few very few Republicans that voted against the voucher bill and so that also took a lot of courage and so we feel like we have a good working relationship with him although he does feel strongly about this referendum and so I have a feeling that we're probably done with that for this

011session but that that will come back from representative Cobb and probably next session and I think that um you know in our conversation with him I think we'll be one of the people he Reach Out reaches out to to work on but I think we've made it pretty plain that without that two-thirds um though you know the way the legislature works if you get a two-thirds vote then it's a it's referendum proof we want the same thing for you guys they're hesitant to do that because you guys are such a small body they feel like it's an unfair advantage um for you guys but they do give in certain circumstances they do give the cities that same protection and we're going to try to use that whether it happens in this session or in a

012coming session to argue that school boards deserve that that same type of protection we'll see how that goes um the education entity and amendments bill which is the bill that would authorize these so-called micro schools we temporarily build that in the Senate today you guys know that movie The Princess Bride is not dead it's mostly dead the real sponsor changed his vote towards the end I didn't catch this until Nancy pointed it out to me changed his vote at the end to vote no so that he could be on the prevailing side which is you have to be on the prevailing side to make a motion to have a bill considered so that's pretty clear indication pretty clear indication that that's what his intention is it failed on a 13-13 vote with three being absent

013and so really it failed on a 14-12 boat and you need when you're when it builds up her final passage you need a constitutional majority which in the Senate is 15. so I looked at the three people who were missing um I have a feeling he can get one of those but we'll see um I felt like frankly this that we were the only ones working against that bill but when I looked at the boat it was pretty clear that other people were working against it too but they're just doing it very quietly I guess and so um I think I don't want to say we're in good shape but I think we're in pretty good shape on that even if he is able to get one more boat to flip um I think maybe

014we can get it somewhere else along the process um I was really nervous I I expected that based on the work that I had done on it to pass by about 20 posts today so I was very pleased when I saw that the full day K bill passed unanimously out of committee today that is the other thing that could potentially be affected by this um this I don't want to call it a shortfall it's not a short of all but by this by the without the projected by the actual numbers being 115 million less than projected so we'll have to see but it did pass unanimously out of committee and obviously if if if executive Appropriations decides to fund it and I don't have any indication that they're not going to fund it I don't

015think we'll have a trouble passing that this year um I'll leave it there and answer any questions that you guys have I'm sure I've forgotten stuff so don't hesitate to ask about anything so I know this past week the Constitutional ear mark uh resolution to change the amendment came out yes as well as the removal of sales tax on food bill was substituted right to make that uh that bill subject to passage of or the change in the Constitution so um so I haven't had a chance to speak with uh representative about that but Susan has and so what I'm telling you is third hand from one season said and I um I don't want to get to see any trouble she's very frustrated by that too her admonition to Susan was a lot of

016water left to go into the bridge and there is and so um we'll have to see how that goes but I'm sure you know I saw that and I thought well of course when I try to do that it just makes it difficult to defeat but we'll have to see I'm starting to wonder how much they're going to push that this year and maybe wait till next year in hopes that the scars that were created by this voucher Bill might have healed a little bit more by the next session because they you know they can't put it on the ballot until 2024 anyway I'm telling whether it's like scars yeah these are open wounds people [Laughter] I cut you off now any other but the latest comments my one question is on that house bill

017464. I know there's a few different versions it's the library materials and just yes hb460 courses to a standing committee asked you a little bit about that this morning any other news so we went to a meeting there was a meeting called by the House Majority Leader on Friday and because apparently in addition to the ones we know about there are other bills he said seven and his Hope was that we could get them all com read to what should be in a bill and run a bill and um the meeting was productive I don't want to say that it wasn't productive but that's not where the meeting ended up and in fact I don't think anybody agreed to combine anything into another bill and so my expectation is a bill that's sponsored by representative

018Ivory and I can't remember the number we'll we'll go forward and probably pass in some form but I would look for that bill to change substantially as it moves through the process okay and then will you keep in contact with us because have ideas about so um that's not to say that that's the only Bill but that's the one that most likely to pass and I think he is the one that's recognized in our legislature as being kind of the expert on that and there's you know problems with just trying to go to the usba for every there's some logistical things that would be very very problematic that's what makes me nervous about it I'm sorry doing all this at the very end because when you have these bills that are very process oriented it's

019hard to communicate that when you get into a real crunch time which we're interested to now this is a great idea but the process you know the trying to explain how these processes work to people who have never been involved in it becomes difficult and I'm getting nervous that when they start cramming and jamming at the end that that's going to get lost and in the shuffle and we could get stuck with something that is not workable yes I am as well okay and then another question on um House Bill 477 with the all-day kindergarten there are a lot of teachers that have been emailing me teachers that are half day kindergarten teachers that are unaware that part of the bill is that we would still provide half day kindergarten for those parents who want

020that um so that's one thing I think that people on the hill should know is to make sure that that's very well communicated because I think that's still a very prevalent concern that people don't understand how that works I think you're right I think A legislature it's understood that it will be opt-ins for the parents yes which will mean obviously that every school almost every school there's certainly any larger school district will have students who don't yes tend to and therefore will need a half day kindergarten option and I I'm talking to Jeff and Kirsten about how and best way to communicate that to our teachers is we don't want to get out front of the board as to how you guys will do that or want to do that but we're certainly willing to

021communicate the teachers that there will be half day options for students because I assume that we'll have a number of students who won't have day kindergarten that is the expectation of the legislature and in in the bill yeah great and I was just going to add on that so yeah it's the Bill's pretty straightforward basically it just provides the funding to be a full wpu if a student's enrolled in full day kindergarten and then I think it leaves it up to the leas we're trying to make that determination but there is a requirement that half day is still yes and I think the general public don't read the bills or see because it is very straightforward and so there's some generated concern that maybe we can alleviate people start writing their representatives and don't really

022know what they're opposing yeah you can forgive anybody for making that mistake yeah sure especially teachers and parents yeah yeah it's hard it's hard to get that information yes absolutely Mrs Oaks so where are we out with HP 344 on curriculum transparency I'm too sure well you know that's one of the rare successes we've had up there this year you know about with only 26 votes in the house I usually have a hard time remembering both totals us long after they've happened but you have we've had so many wins up there I can still remember that when that was last week I think it may be dead this session um but the representative toucher is very tenacious and you know we're watching it very carefully but it would it would take some doing to undo

023that and the closer you get to the end of the session we're not quite that close but the closer you get to the end of the session when everybody else has got their own builder trying to pass and you've already had your chance now you're trying to bring your bill back people get frustrated with that we're not quite there yet but we will be soon anything else to say about just for the general public maybe explain why because of course we like transparency um just explain what why that there were some things that were problematic for anyone who may be watching well I we do like transparency and I think that the case we made to the legislature is that we do like transparency that we have a very transparent policy um and if we

024can do it better please let us know we're happy to make it as more transparent but that was just a very honorous process um that in my opinion would have uh taken the authority that resides with this bar and given it to a group of parents who were not elected and in the end nobody represents our school district better than you guys you guys were elected by our school districts and no matter how many parents you or other people you would appoint to any kind of committee they haven't passed through the test you know the discipline of The Ballot Box the way you have and I think in the end that's what got that bill an overly onerous process that that deliver that took hand it took power out of the hands of elected officials

025thank you okay thank you Mr Evans thank you so much for all your work please tell Susan thank you too guys are going actually it goes without saying I want to thanks work and she would have been here tonight but we just had too much yeah you guys are burning the cantaloupe thank you so much okay we'll move on to Item B long-range planning committee update Brian Mr Leon Wilcox business administrator thank you president chill I'm uh have to say I'm a little taken aback right now I'm actually seeing the K that they're eating a taco and chips only veggies we went out to breakfast with McKay you know a few weeks back and he ordered an omelette but no eggs no cheese it's a skillet that's what I thought anything uh thank you to

026our long-range planning committee we have a new member so I want to thank Amber our our holdover for the previous years but also Amanda and and Karen so we went last week to give you Rick he's chime in as we go through this try to get through this pretty quickly I'm at high level we'll just try to catch up the committee and some initiatives and hear everybody's initiatives that we move to look forward we have lots of needs not a lot of money so uh but some of the things that we've we talked about here as we try to move through and prioritize things moving forward and how to fund things moving forward is this list here by no means is this inclusive and by no means is this an order of needs either but

027we've had field houses we know the five high schools three of them have the field house through the new construction last few years coroner and Jordan do not see how we can get one at them they're very been very popular with the community and the students coaches everything there especially on days like maybe tomorrow where there'll be snow outside and cold so uh we also know filled up grades you know I'll always try to be deposited I think our billboard just required are in pretty good shape particularly quiet with all the improvements we've made some big improvements at alcohol near baseball and softball field that haven't been done in over 40 years with sprinkler boxes and other safety concerns but we still have the former Canyon soccer fields and the baseball and softball I've been

028we want lots of private uh a new tech center well that's a priority our tax centers you know has had much curb appeal and as you know maybe not built for the 21st century we know we got to upgrade that where does that be located at that and of course the point this is looking out you know they're moving if you I live down that way you can see a lot of the buildings being demoed uh we noticed that yesterday as my wife and I were driving around uh but we know that's coming now it's still probably four or six eight years out before they actually have a place where we can build there but uh we know that that's coming well uh and then also look at the the tough one here and that's

029the hardly finding enrollment we've talked about that with house prices family size uh birth rate everything like that coming we know that we produce some excess capacities we'll get to those numbers here in just a minute should be noted we put it on board Docs the legislative auditor's office goes out audits all school districts I try to do one to two a year this last year they did Salt Lake City and the first thing they came back with their top finding their top priority was that cities that District's operating too many schools under capacity they have almost as many about 19 000 students almost as many elementary schools as we do so that was they're a big finding there their big issue there you know every school has certain overhead costs and you've got to

030find those regardless of the student enrollments there so we'll have to make those you know as our we do project our enrollment to somewhat decrease those factors in the next few years and we'll have to have those difficult discussions on how to proceed forward with that to be able to look at supporting schools that's going to be a tough one they're just boundaries which is also tough the school the schools are closed what do you do with the vacant property as well one of the things we did discuss is possibly liquidating this piece you know I think everybody knows this is the really last piece on the east side of Draper it's up on 1700 East [Music] 2nd 36th in that range there about 11 and a half acres was bought by the old Georgia

031school district many years ago well prior to the division early 2000s uh they thought they may need it for an elementary school site we don't see it that ever happening because we feel like we have enough capacity in our elementaries down there but did we look at selling that and look at keep finding using the proceeds to help fund a medical improvements we talked about at Cornwall Canyon well we could talk you know we won't get into the value here at an open session that's items we can discuss in a closed session uh same with C-Tech you can see there that's about on a little over seven acres out of the five buildings 63 000 square feet in those buildings you know we can discuss the value of that as well you take those funds

032without putting that into a C-Tech Center you look at building something on site there as well uh we talked capacity so big thank you to Bob and Cindy and so don't see them here so on the high school and middle school the next slide they've gone out and looked at the capacity of each School we wanted them to do this because of the new mainly the updates out of the New Brighton and Hillcrest uh you can see I like to look at this far right corner falling here and that is what our where we are at capacity wise obviously I like being up close to that hundred percent that means we're utilizing our full buildings the efficient they're not you know they're a little over 100 but you walk in these I think it feels

033comfortable kids can still move it's you still feel like it's safe uh so that's you can see there they can pass you around that 2200 and you can see our enrollment I want to emphasize on these next three slides this is next year's projected enrollment about this year's enrollment right now so it's what we projected coming into the buildings next year you can see you know Jordan is down Emma's had that you know this just this area here this has changed you know those of us who worked here for 14 years notice that theory around us has changed a little bit gotten more urban and Suburban if you will so Jordan's capacity and as he is down and Rome has shrunk there over the last few years Moving on but still people nearly 100 percent

034moving on to our middle schools again I want to point out Union we're using the new Union building here so that's its capacity again the projected enrollment where we're at with these here you can see Eastmont are concerned under half Jordan and Union and we'll have to see exactly what happens with the new Union and the we do have quite a few students who do permit our Union who won out of the new building you may also back southeastcl.gov and you can see where Mount Jordan Union is are right there moving on this will be a project for McKay and Alice we're asking to do this this upcoming summer let us update our new update our elementary capacity this one has not been updated just give you this as a reference I don't think it

035will change significantly these numbers here but you can see where we're at there but again it's objective enrollment so I'm getting down lower you know we need to look at a full day kindergarten probably goes we need to adjust that column I'll just have a straight K5 I think we need to look at getting rid of the Head Start we don't have that anymore and DK so this chart will change but I think it gives us an idea of the ballpark we're going to be in and that's you know that's 70 yes or 75 capacity which I think we're all set and done there here's our projected enrollments I put the full sheet out on more oxygen so you can see it uh the whole thing I think it's important story out just for elementary

036you know we're in the 1819 Year we're almost 15 000 students and we're going to be about 1500 down is what we're projecting for next next school year again this is housing in the fourth grade just really catching up to us and it's catching up in the other areas of the state as well it's just not games but all right schools still going to be pretty consistent we see that Trend going out you know Charter Schools don't have the same impact on the high school level and you know as times they get a little older they can afford to live in our communities a little easier so we see that numbers stabilizing but also should be noted that Middle School going down not the same rate as the Elementary's but a decrease there look at

037boundaries you know we won't get into boundaries because of time and or anything but there are some feeder patterns you know we don't have a true feeder system in the district because there's some things that we we do know they'll like to clean up that we have for repairing uh over the years see those both high schoolers and uh it was a little big one here you know just that extraordinate of this area right here just just not it's going down in school-aged children that's tough the other areas you're somewhere projecting The Fairly static moving forward but some decreases over time one of the big things that's happened that really hasn't happened in the 14 years we've been in District is Charter Schools you know the charters we've had have always been there before the

038district was created um but we did have a big change this year and that's with beehive Academy of course they did have a place over by them and called the old theater the dollar theater there but they did buy the Shopko building up on 94 South and so they did go from 6 12 for years and years High School level the whole K-12 program and you can see where their October 1 enrollment was you know so they took 270 elementary kids not all from our district but I think it's safe to assuming that most were of our list 612 but also going up a little bit I think that's probably a correlation between the two younger go in there as well but we can see the trend going towards there again here's the Google Maps

039and here's the uh pull up there on the other side of that Smith's the old Shopko you can see it's centered right there it's several of our schools so I've tried to draw a line but they don't you know see them here's running over here there's Park Lane down here wooden silver Mesa Albion down here you have uh Eastmont which is called that's glacier so you can see where it's located and probably holding from each a little bit so finally just a few recommendations that we have uh we'd like to we recommend the committee hiring a demographer firm to really check on the future forecast of housing family demographics birth rate a array of things within our boundaries and give us some long-term projections on how that one that's one of my issues we want

040to continue to look at the feasibility studies of Eastmont the needs there we know we have the roof looked at last fall that's about a two and a half million it does need to be replaced two and a half million dollar cost what they quoted us last fall uh we know there's issues with the elevator big issues with the elevator the whole reason we've moved the floor is to look at the water underneath why it was coming up so we still need to fix that about water table issues underneath we also need to look at each Crescent View for future options there what could that be like that suppose is that a place for a tech center we'll take a look at moving it down there we don't know yet but just some feasibility studies

041there and just you know the board may not know the last option last one here is you know 12 years ago this will be number 10 years ago about 10. 11 years ago now in 2012 you know we entered into lease agreements with Cottonwood Heights and Midvale City uh the reason being you know we had old schools that the old Ella Midvale Elementary on the Midvale site the Old Mountain View Elementary on the continent outside he tore those down because they were not needed anymore because we rebuilt Menville on a different location that would be an already been closed by the previous Jordan School District turn those into lease agreements with the city's to park solids that's the agreement we have we did not sell it outright at that time uh because because we just

042didn't know whatever wrong was going to be back in 2012. so we you know wanted to make sure we still had access to the property if we ever needed to build a school right now we don't see that really being an issue at either place the news for a future you know bring it back to school at those locations so you know we may want to look at those agreements and see what city's plans are foreign just put that out there so with that that's all we have is there any questions comments or anything from the committee members or you'd like us to look at and then this was not uh first I'd like to say thank you uh I we had some of these discussions actually um previously in the long-range planning committee with

043you and um I Mont Miller Burke's not here but I appreciated when you started talking about the issues at Corner Canyon fields and things that we had a good discussion about the fact that corner Canyon's 10 years old and that and that the water table issue is is a real problem there on those fields we've never been able to drain the water appropriately and adequately and have spent a lot of time and resources trying to fix the problem but it just wasn't done correctly to begin with because it's kind of an issue where it's swampy and things so anyways I really appreciate um this coming today um and I just wanted to thank you I know you and Rick have gone and done the tours on the field with the administrators there and seen really

044that it really is an issue I I know we've received some emails from some soccer players today and previous soccer players and baseball and softball players and and the issue with the fields is that we actually have teams that will not play on those fields because the liability in injuries and so at this point it really is a liability for the district as the kids um you know can get injured easily on those fields so grateful for that um I it's something caught my eye when when we're hiring the demographic firm I think that's a very smart idea I would also like us to look at the programs that we have available at the schools versus the capacity because I know that our programs that really attract people deal lies in different things that we

045tend to do better with our population though so I think we ought to look at that formula too of how we're attracting kids that way so um I think that's that that and then the clean feeder patterns of course I represent West Draper and that's been an issue for West Draper and just I'm very interested in how we can help try to clean up some beater patterns for those people so thank you so much for all the work and the presentation oh lastly I had some questions today um I had a draper resident writing in saying uh now wait a minute if because I posted hey in our study session we're going to be talking about a few of these things he said now are we going to be raising taxes so I appreciate you

046went over the fact that we do have land that we've had for a long time that we we will not need for an elementary school and I explained that that this wouldn't be like a bond that we were passing that we could be able to use these funds appropriately with things that we already have so thanks for that okay thank you um Mrs I didn't know someone else yet I think I just okay all right great so yeah thank you this is really helpful information and um I think one thing that I'd like to see this summer as they um take a look at each of the elementary schools and the capacities and update that information that they also include a report on how some of those classrooms are being used even though they're not

047form you know an official class with a teacher there all day because I know those buildings are those spaces in the buildings are being used and you know that like brain boosters um small group pull outs and intervention stuff um especially in some of the older buildings where we're seeing maybe less usage of the capacity because those buildings don't have conference rooms they don't have wider halls and places where you can a volunteer can go work with a student to help them with reading or math facts or something like that so so um so it's you know it's um I I just think that would be helpful information to get a a better picture of what's really happening in our elementary and our elementary schools and and with those programs um and um see what

048other comment did I have um oh and on the recommendations I think it's great to hire a firm that specializes this sort of thing and um and the on on those agreements with Midvale City and Cottonwood Heights City I think it would be helpful to kind of maybe have the committee actually look at what those agreements say and bring that information back to the board so so we we know what's contained in in those um agreements and then I think also as Mrs nivar mentioned you know programs and stuff you know to kind of look at what you know perhaps relocating programs or things like that might do to help kind of mitigate some of this disparity in building uses thank you um Mrs Oaks so and on the convenience part of these recommendations so

049I obviously agree with these in addition one of the things that came up in our conversation I do think needs to be included as part of the report board is that in some of our elementaries because some of them have declining populations FTE and numbers with how many teachers and how many students are in the classroom can be really different so I think we need to get a clearer picture of of some of that what are the sizes of classrooms in different places how are we showing up some of that and we need to look at it from an equity lens just on that uh McKay so two we practice has been two at minimum two teachers per grade level regardless of enrollment right so that's that's what we which means some schools the classroom

050size is really really small just tearing the Band-Aid off not seeing them have a solution for it but that's an issue part of it you know as we talked budget Northern meeting specifically but that's part of the budget in the March April any other questions oh sorry this is another thing I just thought of too for the soccer fields and stuff um is that something that's if some of that one-time money comes through from the state we could use that as well thoroughly mentioned the one-time money hoping we still get it I think what gets you know live designated 175 million right uh this year at least that's I think we've been around seven and a half of that I would like to use four plus to do the band room at Alton then look

051at the other some other needs with that yeah Mrs Pederson did we talk about doing the field houses simultaneously are you prioritizing one set I couldn't remember if we said one or anything you can't do one without the other at least that's Leon Wilcox talking because I I just feel like um Jordan needs to have some recognition I mean lots of money has gone to karna Canyon multiple times not saying they don't need it but I'm just saying it has and the other high schools as well and Jordan has had nothing I think I think there would be one I foresee this as one art one bid one architecture same construction company we also said they were pretty cost efficient not a time you get a little bit efficient he's that way but yeah okay

052just clarifying Mrs Oaks and the superintendent and just as a clarification for that I mean I know we've built kind of two different types of field houses in the district right we have the two that are at Hillcrest and Alta that have a really beautiful Overlook and then we have the more practical one that's at Brighton the thought is something that's more practical and more cost efficient and I actually think probably more useful in the end yeah that's our recommendation you get into the the big cost is that outproof space which is very nice those every but most of you have been out and uh Hill across the seat it's great but it's very costly especially with the elevator because you have to put one in and it's required that you're gonna you know your

053Eda that's that gets very pricey right there and just that you know it's probably almost a Million Dollar Plus add-on or more and uh you know my favorite as I said in the committee I'll sit here to open meeting is Brighton's and I think it's it's bigger it's just more useful then this is labor um as we look at that I assume we'll also talk to the principals of those schools and and look at also might one thought I had is I really want to make sure that what we're doing benefits a lot of students you know and I I'm more familiar with how many students participate in athletics at Corner Canyon than I am at Jordan and I I absolutely believe we need to give love to Jordan and do I think you would

054attract more you could students should you put money into the building well I think you need to put money into the building but it'd be interesting just to talk to the principal too because as we're talking about C-Tech and things maybe Jordan would really benefit from an awesome C-Tech something there too rather than a full I mean just an idea just because I happened to I did look at at the number of students that participate in athletics at Jordan and it's a smaller number and it is true you can build it and they can come but it might be interesting just to talk to the principals too and see if there's others other things that could enhance yeah yeah I'm just that brought up so when we were first starting to design to rebuild Brighton

055and I had to be convinced that spending money on a field house was worth it and what convinced me is it was not just for the athletic teams but for every student every PE class every other groups could use that space as well and that really convinced me that it was it was really important so I mean I hear what you're saying but I think it can benefit that Jordan would have been a community in ways in addition to their Athletics they think the whole community at Brighton uses that little league teams I mean other not just students I mean it's it's all the time yeah it's going to say does Brian have any uh input on the Field House Yeah we actually use the testing believe it or not as well so yeah several

056programs it was utilized literally from 5 36 in the morning until 10 o'clock at night just about every day so it's a lot of use for sure two quick points one is um maximizing space for students uh tennis some type of indoor tennis facility I think across the district all of our students would benefit all of our high schools have great tennis teams it's hard my understanding is right now they really go to One location north yeah of the district if they can get there and get time yes so I think that might be something to consider I just want to point out too looking kind of going back to the Middle School issue it was pointed out at the eastmont's SEC meeting that Eastmont was the one Middle School that didn't benefit from our

057previous bonds now I know we did a lot of other things but um just throwing this out there as just some Visionary thoughts that we talked a little bit about in Long ranges maybe the idea of creating some type of middle combination rather it's Eastman or crescent or a combination with ctec that really would give us the ability to compete head-to-head against beehive so we could develop those Pathways grade six you know through 12 in aligning um something in combination with ctec and one of our Middle School models so I I think in that feasibility study that will come out on what maybe some possibilities are between those two buildings but I think this does give us an opportunity to really think big about you know the future and maybe you know what that might

058look like but I think kind of going back to your point Karen you know I just want to make sure that that was brought out because that was a point that was made at the SEC meeting so yes and one last thing when we were talking in Long Range before I also really liked the idea of how some of those C-Tech opportunities can also attract students and where Jordan high does have a declining population you know I know we have some really Innovative neat ideas about C-Tech and a Master Center for ctec we also kind of played around with and talked about the idea of you know maybe you have you know two different types of C-Tech and maybe some of it's housed somewhere else so when we're looking at the demographic team I would

059love us to look at that a little bit too because there may be ways to attract and I know Steve Wrigley who used to be here would say that all the time I'm so worried about the drain that's coming out of Jordan so there may be some things some other things we can do in addition to add programs to help bolster that population there that's great okay thank you Mr Wilcox let's move on to our next it sounds like everyone's okay with the committee and let's go on with school fees well yeah be scheduled for 20 23 24. before we alluded to this when in his talk um well Danny a lot of credit goes to Danny putting this together over the last couple it's been up connection with the process so he put it

060together and reviewed it with me on Wednesday and Thursday last week then on Friday a house spilled 175 past the house and so we came back and changed everything so several things have been posted a couple different times here we don't know exactly how this is going to turn out going to legislature especially based on the the uh the revenue estimates that came today on the money the funding here so uh again last year you know there was a two Bill 211 it didn't pass mainly because it just wasn't funded the legislature didn't fund it so that was picked up this year by last year was representative Robertson down in Provo he's since retired from the half the house and it's probably been as strong picked it up and so Bill 175 uh passed on

061Friday when we were in the GLC by nearly unanimous with a few absentees there this bill does get a one-time appropriation for FY 24 out of 35 million that would be roughly 1 6 coming to us you can see the amount of fees collected last year uh so you can see that 1.6 when it's you can leave out for extracurricular because they can still be charged if you look at the general um about two that's about four million so you can do the math or that's not going to cover it this allocation coming to us now last year we did reduce the general fee basically cutting it in half so as of today or amount of General fee revenue is about nine hundred thousand the principals feel good about that because they since I just

062you know they use the general fee to help kind of subsidize in the past these other programs but they can't do that anymore the program has to carry itself so you know so we did drop the general feed the curricular fee is about the exact same amount last year reported this year you know what that does make sense because we're far through through the year extra curricular we've collected about three million excuse me about 10 million dollars but we have instead of three million we haven't had the spring stores yet for this fall softball soccer lacrosse with other ones that looks flexible there so so basically you know we're going to be you know it could be in the three million dollar range of peas where you collecting that may only get subsidized back if

063this goes through about the one from six so we're going to be we could be short that way um there's about 175 does if it does go through again I didn't see it on the sentence uh Ed committee so it moves to the Senate their committee tomorrow I did not they had one today and one tomorrow I did not see it on their agenda for tomorrow but see how there it goes uh starting next year per the bill you can't charge HP that's a really important a list and this is basically the list right here uh that you can only charge for you can't charge in general or registration fee next year and you can see the definitions well you can still charge for extracurricular it does look like that will continue we have you

064in House Bill 175 is that you should get rid of this list and by 2028. we'll have to see what comes out so again it eliminated the registration fee also eliminated uh concurrent enrollment AP books textbooks you could use those as well so a couple things on the fee schedule moving forward we're recommending the aggregate mean at 5000 same with the middle school we don't have any students as of this point who have exceeded those here are some of the changes that we're recommending hopefully this one is not needed and that is the supplemental kindergarten they've been asked the state has asked us to put this on the fee schedule we haven't put it on the past we've always considered more of a tuition than a fee but the state that says No it should

065be considered a fee you can see the schools that still this year have the supplemental program s uh we are hoping most if not all as Nancy mentioned you know it gives us full wpus if you should have it at all if the bill goes through that wouldn't be how supplementary so that would be that but again we're not so if it doesn't go through costs there we've used that for the last five or six years these are the only ones at the middle school you know we are proposing a five dollar change to the curricular PE closed and some schools have a music festival at Lagoon so this would be you know it's on a Saturday right yeah it's on Saturday which would be an extracurricular if it's possible they go up there and

066do a music festival but they have to pay the admission into Lagoon and the transference Transportation up there so those are the only ones from middle schools again here are some ones for the high school again we could still turn for the art supplies because it is a supply next year we think uh we'd also want to add one on here for uh moods because the price of food has gone up from the food classes I think we could still charge for that one these other ones we'll have to look at as we move forward but I can see the change last year Master this year our proposal next year before the big one would be for those students who do make a CTE National Conference it's just so you know sometimes they go an

067extra day it's just so expensive because we don't have any buying power when only four or five kids go instead of the whole team so plane tickets from hotel rooms it's just more expensive though uh here's the extracurricular fees most of these deals then and some more bad competitions they have so it would be pretty much subject to the three schools mainly out to have the Bands or marching bands and you can also see we put something there for the Unified sports as well the participation in anyone else was a spirit pack s some changes to the ctev you didn't post those on board docs but a couple new programs coming in farm Tech and teaching uh and you know part of these are just because they're increased you know they get a certificate when

068they leave here a CNA or cosmetology again out in the private world you're going to pay probably twice as much as the kids can get it for here one of these are for the after school teachers you know when the kids go to the care facilities for the CNA or the night for the night cosmetology class you know so we have to bring in an hourly instructor be with her kids for those and that's what's called these fees here part of the fee we always use the online fee schedule I think you're familiar with that we won't go through that you see the link there uh part of it is you have to look at start reviewing the spend plan you can see the spin plan for each School these links are live right now

069yeah so with that you know we didn't want to take as much time with this but uh uh in the past we've always sent out the peace proposed fee schedule as the parents and if a Kirsten have done that don't know exactly how it will look so we can you know what we got based on 175 not passing which it hasn't well we could explain uh again our we've always done three readings so our next reading would be March 7th final reading with approval be March 21st so a little bit of a pickle with the timeline in the legislature but whatever you want just one quick comment I was just looking at the Senate at committee agenda and I did not see HP 175 on there yes when I looked at three o'clock it was

070yeah so I just checked now two so I don't know we don't know where and with this Revenue shortfall yeah so by law what do we have to do do we need to send something out right by law you have to communicate it the same way you normally communicate with parents and that's usually through Skyler or we could use Paris where we communicate and the second thing is you have to allow public comment for two bit more beats tonight would count as one and then two in March with also accounts we'd have three and then you'll have to you should adopt it by April 1st I don't know really the three big one so maybe send it out that's what I would probably recognize yeah because we probably need to send it out to get

071public comments okay board is there are there any questions or can we wrap it up should we'll send it out and bring back comments next meeting thank you thank you okay so the last item for study session is discussions of indicators for strategic plan so just so you guys know the board when we we have a working group that set the indicators I mean I don't know seven or how long ago was it Nancy seven years ago I don't know bad working group on 2015 I think 15 years yeah so it was a while ago and we set a five we set five-year goals for the board of the indicators but what happened was we were actually we didn't reconstitute a group but we were looking at it and then coveted and then so we

072still have been looking at indicators but right now we don't have board goals and so and especially with the Strategic plan I think we need to maybe reconstitute like a working group of three board members and have them because I do think and I think the superintendent has asked each strategic Focus area to come up with accountable goals because there's probably some new goals we want to look at and then just review do we want to keep the other goals indicators what indicators do we want to add and then I think it would be good if we set some goals again so um superintendent do you have anything well I just emphasize I think I mentioned this before in the uh State auditors uh audits of districts one of the things they highlighted was the

073fact that Canyons did have indicators and believe it or not very few districts actually measure against anything so um so I'm really proud of that right the fact that we we present on data a lot in board meeting and we're always looking at data and how it can you know really inform best practice and Improvement I think that's a big driver um and so in our last board meeting is Hal presented I think there's a lot of great data there a few things that maybe to think about um right now for the most part we're focused on proficiency so you might consider growth and we've reestablished new base new baselines and so um rather it's early literacy or you know eighth grade math whatever it is that we want to Target that might be something

074to to look at I still think graduation rate act some of the things college readiness there's still a lot there but the addition with access and opportunity in human-centered supports and operations I think that opens up a lot more you know for example attendance might be one that you want to look at that's really an issue that we're wrestling with uh employee satisfaction and retention and love that we're doing some positive and trying to engage you know more of that and then looking at student behaviors with life skills you know I don't know if maybe office discipline referrals or I know Brian's done an excellent job you know looking at that and then uh in along the lines of access and opportunity we've looked a lot Wendy's done a great job looking at honors courses

075and really at the middle school level because that's kind of a fulcrum point you know for kids trajectories and how they go on into high school and also looking at our subpopulation so multi-language Learners low socioeconomic there's just there's a lot there to process right and so I've asked each group to bring forward you know at least maybe two indicators we already have indicators as you mentioned developed on the tenants so it may be a yes and question I think you know getting too many can get unwieldy and that becomes maybe a little more problematic but I do think we're at a place where we can expand on that to you know hold ourselves accountable and how we report out to the public on just how we're doing and how are we making progress or

076not and then that really helps us to program evaluate what's working and what's not and where do we need to change course wanted to be involved in that okay you three were moved okay this is that'd be great so I don't you may not need to meet for a little bit until until the direction we can bring those forward you know as these as our Focus area committee leads present and then you can yeah give us Direction you guys want to get together to start meeting and I mean you can start by looking at the old ones I guess but would be great do you have any questions or any thoughts on that okay well that was easy thank you thanks for being willing to look at that I think I mean that is a

077really important place to look at so that'll be great okay so I will just declare this meeting over and we'll have about a 10 minute break and so board meeting starting at seven seven o'clock snowing too you guys won't be as deep as tomorrow yeah I have to tell you guys you guys did very well thank you and it's looking very good today you're self-modernating so Karen you need to again it's like a Pokemon Pokemon okay you're not you're not it's not bad it's okay talking to me and with everybody it's everyone to the business meeting of the Kenya's Board of Education today is February 21st 2023 we're meeting at the district office located at 9361 South 300 East in Sandy Utah um I would like to excuse Mr Mont milberg from this meeting and

078the first item on the agenda is to approve the agenda for tonight if I can have a motion to approve that agenda I'll make the motion to approve the agenda for tonight February 21st I need to read this 20 23. okay okay do we have a second to that motion I'll second it okay we have a motion in the second to approve the agenda for today is there any discussions about motion okay so you know discussion I will ask for a vote all in favor say aye aye aye any opposed okay that motion passes unanimously and now we'll go on to the Pledge of Allegiance by Willow Springs Elementary Principal Marianne Watts will you please stand and recite the Pledge of Allegiance with me I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of

079America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all okay thank you now we will hear from Principal Watts about her amazing School thank you we do the pledge of allegiance of course at our school every morning we end with that and then I always say have the rest of a great day so I hope it's a little early to say it but have the rest of a great day Willow Springs Elementary is located in Draper Utah just south of Corner Canyon High School that seems to be the landmark out there we have as of today 675 students that changes daily we're constantly getting new students moving in and we're getting students moving out but Leon told me earlier in the year that we are

080the second largest Elementary in the district I we have I have 33 teachers 78 staff members I have four classes in kindergarten and second grade and five classes in all the other grades so we are a very large school my daughter teaches um excuse me she teaches recess at a school in Salt Lake District and they have 12 teachers so I I think their eye popping is maybe a little easier for that principle but I would not trade where I am I have two accommodated core classrooms at our school and that meets the needs of students with cognitive disabilities and we have loved having those students bring that diversity into our building I have two achievement coaches instructional coaches and I think that's because I like to hire new teachers and so they support me

081by they've supported me by getting two coaches we are as the other schools in the district have four brain boosters but we are School Community Council voted to use some of our tssp money to pay for a fifth brain booster since we have five classes in almost each grade so we have a Beverly Taylor Sorensen arts teacher a music teacher PE library and stem is what we added this year and with my fourth and fifth grades at about 30 students in each class it's really great to be able to have them all out in separate brain boosters we also house two District preschools and the preschools are also for special needs students I've been at Willow Springs for a total of 10 years I was the assistant principal for one year and I have been

082principal myself for dying we have a very active PTA and school Community Council PTA made their fundraising goal so the top reward was duct taping me to the gym wall every student working in pairs got to place a strip of deck tape to hold me up it worked when I was standing on a little stool when they pulled the stool out I was suspended on the wall and the students roared they were very excited to see them we also had a school fundraiser that raised enough money for a shade covering over one of our playgrounds one are the our Fields get used a lot in the summer for lacrosse running teams and football and so when the weather gets hot our students during school and then their families in the summer use that shade and

083are appreciative of it we have two more coverings on order but apparently they are on back order they've been ordered a year for the other playground on the kindergarten but apparently there is a back order on playground equipment so but hopefully those will come our schools sends baggie books home every day with our kindergarten through second grade students when covet hit we continued that except instead of every day we sent five at on Monday to be returned on Friday so they would have a full week's worth of books and we've continued that through this year but we're hoping next year those little germs might be a little less and we'll be able to go back to the once uh book every day bringing it back and forth seems to really help students with that accountability

084and our kids are better readers because of it we have a 10-year partnership with Corner Canyon High School The Corner Canyon students can sign up for a semester of Elementary tutoring for second fourth sixth or eighth period they come down to Willow Springs and help the teachers and students in our classrooms by working with small groups or individuals or helping the teachers with some papers or hanging things up but the majority of their time is spent with the students teachers love having the extra adult support my students see the high school helpers as rock stars and can't wait for them to come and you can tell that the high school students love their time spent at my school some of them have even come back to tell me they've gone into education as their career

085so I think that's been a great partnership that started when I started at Willow Springs it was the same year that corner Canyon was opening so it was a perfect time to start that I have loved my time at Willow Springs and one last thing I am retiring at the end of this school year after 37 years of education and I've had a wonderful career and it's bittersweet to say I'm leading but it's time for another adventure thank you okay thank you so much principal Watts we really appreciate hearing from you and hearing about your school and we would love you to pass on our thanks to your faculty for all they do for students so thank you so now it is time for recognitions and I will turn the time over to Jeff Haney

086director and Kristen Stewart associate director of communications foreign thank you president schill for the time that the board gives us during board meeting to recognize the achievements of students faculty and staff in the Canyon school district those who are mentioned tonight will receive a letter of commendation from the board and the superintendent our first honorees tonight made history at their High School you see here photographs of Eva and Eliza Zimmerman they are the first to ever state champs from Hillcrest in girls wrestling so congratulations to these two Huskies they captured those first place titles at the 5A Utah High School Activities Association girls wrestling championships the zimmermans they are sisters you can see that family resemblance they are those inaugural winners for the Huskies it's very exciting for Hillcrest High School Eva one in the

087hundred pound category and Eliza won in the 120 pound category hillcrest's team ended up sixth place overall in this state competition so congratulations to the team it was a fantastic finish for the Hillcrest Huskies at the State Wrestling Championships Corner Canyon highs boys team ended up in fourth place overall at the 6A Championship so can congratulations to the Chargers as well now the Brighton High Bengals continued their legacy as of swimming as a Prestige sport at their school Brighton High's Dynasty continued one more year it's about as rock solid as any other Legacy and tradition in Canyon school district nearly every year and more than a few Bengal swimmers find themselves on the podium at the end of the state meet and 2023 did not disappoint we had two first place relay teams from the

088Brighton boys and they came in second place overall behind Skyline the girls team performed admirably as well finishing the top 10 sixth place and we have state champs in a few events the Brighton team of Drake Doyle Austin Partridge Gavin Smith and Bridget Nelson won the 200 and 400 freestyle relays on the girls side Hannah sassovarek won the top individual metal and the 200 freestyle event but also you'll see there one of the coolest photos of the day that's Dylan Etherington it's the bottom right he stole the show with the first place finish in the first ever unified state championship 53 events so congratulations to Dylan he wasn't the only Etherington to win an award you'll see there that Brighton's coach Todd is the 5A coach of the year so congratulations to all of the

089Bengals who found themselves on the podium after the state swim meet we also give a shout out to Corner Canyon High's Jordan Barlow who earned two first place finishes in the state's first unified 6A State swim championships that was held at BYU on Saturday he took first in the 5100 mixed freestyle events and his teammate Bryce are menderiz took third in the mixed 53 and the students weren't the only athletes to walk away with hard where charger Connor Spencer won the 100 butterfly event and the charger boys took third overall so congratulations to all of the Canyons District swimmers who won State Awards our next honorees are the students who earn spots on the Utah high school activities association's academic All State list for winter sports Now 37 seniors from Canyons District high schools that's

090out to Brighton Corner Canyon Hillcrest and Jordan high schools earns the academic Allstate awards for the winter sports that includes girls and boys basketball girls and boys wrestling competitive cheer drill and boys and girls swimming this brings the number to 84 so far of the seniors this year who have earned academic All-State awards for excelling on the playing field at the same time they excel in the classroom now for about 30 years the High School Activities Association has given this recognition to Stellar senior athletes academic Allstate Award winners have a 4.0 cumulative GPA or meet an index score that takes into account a student's grades and college entrance exam scores a student with a 3.9 GPA for example would need to score a 30 or higher on the ACT in order to qualify and if

091you have been a parent or a friend of a family with a student athlete you know how much time it takes to be a student athlete well they're fantastic students first the academic All-State winners in winter sports are in competitive cheer Avery Adamson from Corner Canyon Brooke Barty from Horner Canyon Audrey quincer from Alta Kennedy Guff from Alta Brinley newett from Brighton Cassidy and zintron Jordan lafata from Jordan Macy shalgaard from Jordan in boys swimming Aiden Wright from Corner Canyon and Brendan Smith from Corner Canyon Carson Spencer from Corner Canyon Rocky Smith from Corner Canyon Samuel Morrow from Corner Canyon Brady Carmen from Alta Noah Harkness from Alta Ryan Dean from Alta and Raymond powers from Hillcrest in girls swimming Avery Hansen from Horner Canyon Catherine aqualo Corner Canyon Naya Serene Corner Canyon Grace Hansen

092from Alta Isabel leininger from Alta a Mercedes Cole from Wright in drill Aslan Richards from Corner Canyon boys wrestling twin Bedell Corner Canyon Noah Martinez from Brighton and girls wrestling Catalina Ruiz from Corner Canyon and Lillian Watson from Brighton in boys basketball Cole weiniger from Hillcrest and Zachary wanagar from Hillcrest in girls basketball Brooklyn Yeomans from Corner Canyon Caitlin Madsen from Corner Canyon Madeleine white from Corner Canyon Janet Todd from Alta Abigail Islamic Katrin from Hillcrest Jacobson Jordan Corden and Kirsten Holden from Jordan so congratulations to the students who have achieved academic Allstate for winter sports now tonight is the first round of girls Hoops for 5A and 6A so good luck to Corner Canyon Brighton and Jordan they all play at home tomorrow is the first round of the boys tournaments Corner Canyon Alto

093Brighton and Hillcrest are vying for those state titles so good luck to the Hawks the Bengals the Chargers the Huskies and diggers who qualified to compete in the state contest now up next the superintendent Robbins has a special recognition an announcement of the third ever assistant superintendent in Canyons District's history the successful candidate will follow the pictures of those two fine individuals Dr Bob dowdle and Dr Catherine McCary they were the first two assistant superintendents in Canyon's history the appointment of the new superintendent was will be confirmed during the consent agenda and after the announcement the new superintendent's photo will find itself in the history books next to battle and Dr McCary Dr Robbins thank you Jeff um so first I'd just like to um congratulate all of our candidates that were considered for the

094job and I want to give a special shout out and thank you to everyone that was involved in the process and um rest assured one one thing through this process that really struck me was just how amazing our leadership is in the district and um our students and in our district is in good hands and in presently and going forward and so I just want all the candidates that applied and those that interviewed I want them to know how impressed uh that we were with their skills and and their resumes and their body of work that they've done over time so um with that we want to make the announcement tonight of the new assistant superintendent which is Dr McKay Robinson so if McKay can come on up his wife Dixie's here so come on

095up okay so I want to congratulate uh McKay on this appointment and uh proposal and um super excited to have him on board he's been one of our elementary directors and done a fantastic job and um just not not a better leader educator or person in the district and so uh with that I I gave him a little bit of warning that he may want to say a few words I don't know if he does or not but um I think it's important that he has the opportunity so McKay congratulations on this new assignment I believe the warning was more like don't you dare tell a soul until later this evening that's that's more what it was which I have taken to heart and friends and Associates can attest to that um Dixie was the

096only one that I did make aware but to be honest with you ever since I met with Dr Robbins this morning I've been completely humbled um I've been in an absolute loss for words and I want to Echo what Dr Robin said that the candidates that um were considered as well are truly amazing Educators and I am honored to call them colleagues and friends and look forward to our continued Association and working closely with one another and so I thank each and every one of you for this opportunity as well again I can't express enough how humbled I am and I look forward to the opportunity of continuing our work together especially with the Strategic plan probably what I'm most excited about is having been a part of the Committees and putting everything together that

097opportunity now to work with the academic team and truly push this work forward with our building administrators and teachers and Educators it's just an exciting opportunity overall I've always viewed education as a as an opportunity to give back it's never been about me it's never been about anything other than wanting to provide the students the same thing that I was provided when I was in third grade and I would be a complete fool not to thank Mr Miner my third grade teacher for being that person for me and it's and the true honor and privilege to continue to provide that for students and I look forward to broadening that scope now and this opportunity working with Dr Robinson all of you um but again I'm truly humbled I obviously have to thank my wife as

098well she's put up with a ton of phone calls late into the evening from my principals and the different people I've worked with and I love each and every one of them they're amazing Educators like um Marianne I don't even want to call you Mrs Watts she's just she's a truly amazing person and I'm grateful for that Association and for the amazing people in our buildings so thank you it's snowing I'm gonna keep this short so thank you very much appreciate the opportunity and look forward to working and helping the work move forward so thanks okay thank you Mr Robinson we are very excited and I want to offer my congratulations and we are excited to work with you in your new capacity so thank you okay now is time for Patron comments um I'm

099going to start by reading a statement um the board often designates time in meetings to listen to the patrons of the district Patron comment time is limited to Residents and taxiers of canyons districts students and parents of students and current employees of the district agents May provide board members with written comments or documents rather these documents must be submitted to the board secretary at the meeting or emailed to the office of public Communications by noon of the following day of the board meeting and our secretary's right over there tonight individuals will be given three minutes those representing groups will be given five minutes comments made during Patron comment are part of the public record it is the board's practice to listen and take notes during Patron comments the board of education does not discuss matters

100that are not on the meetings agenda nor engage in public comment on individual students to protect their privacy or employee issues if a patron wants to comment on the district's employees Care on a District's employees character professional competence or mental or physical health the report the board requests that those comments be submitted to the board in writing however if the patron determines to verbally comment on those personal issues the comments need to be civil and refrained from personal attacks insults deflammatory or slanderous comments about an individual the Board of Education would like to make it clear that critical race theory is not part of the curriculum being used by Canyon school district there are no plans to incorporate it into the curriculum or instruction in Canyon schools the Board of Education values input on all

101sides of issues to maintain decorum and respect we ask that those in attendance refined from Applause or other types of demonstrations during the patron comment time as well as throughout the meeting okay so our first Patron that has signed up is Amanda McConnell so she could come up and then we have one other comment that is going to be remote all right everybody my name is Amanda McConnell and I'm the vice president for the Canyons ESP Association I'm here speaking to you today to asking you to consider the USPS of our district as we go into negotiation season teachers are the heart of our district and we love our teachers the governor has made it clear that our teachers will be receiving a substantial raise this year I would like you to consider the rest

102of us if teachers are our District's heart I would implore you to see that esps are the backbone without the heart the body does not survive and without the spine the body cannot Thrive we have witnessed time and again the effects that staffing issues have on our students we have seen the mass burn out in every job family of our esps these burnouts and staffing issues are majorly impacting our teachers we have a symbiotic relationship and both job groups need our support and school districts acknowledgment and financial support every one of our employees deserves to make a livable wage right now in Salt Lake County 12 to 15 an hour is not a livable wage there's a reason we cannot find quality employees there's a reason we cannot retain employees and lose them to companies

103that pay more and take care of their employees better I implore you to please keep in mind the entire District as you discussed salary raises this year this economy has been hard on our entire employee family the decisions you make over the next several weeks could make all the difference to the lives of our esps thank you very much okay our next Patron to comment is Kirby croyle and oh they have not joined the meeting okay okay maybe they did send us an email so um thank you I guess we will discuss sorry we'll just proceed with the meeting so our next item on the agenda is the consent agenda and um I would ask that emotion be made and that all the items are read that are on the consent agenda I I will

104make that motion I move that we improve that we approve the consent agenda items which are item 7A approval of minutes from February 7th 7B approval of higher and termination reports 7c approval of purchasing bids 7D approval of student overnight travel 7e approval of January Financial reports 7f approval of school Community Council updates 7g approval of Copperview comprehensive School Improvement CSI plan 7h approval of amendment with Cottonwood Heights Recreation Center service area inter-local agreement and 7i approval of administrative appointments okay thank you for reading that is there a second to that motion I'll second that motion okay thank you is there any discussion to the motion okay so you know discussion I will call for a vote all in favor say aye aye aye aye any opposed okay that motion passes unanimously now we will

105go on to new business and item a is strategic Plan Focus Group report on human Center supports by Dr Brian McGill director of student services first off uh president Sheila I wanted to congratulate Dr Robinson he completed the same program that I completed at the U so go youths um anyways happy to call him a colleague and now my boss um so in the human Center supports Group which president shiel uh is a part of as well as Andrew and Karen we've had the opportunity of meeting a few times to date and our focal points are focused on life skills curriculum I've got some slides in here on Student Health Data increasing behavioral supports in schools which we know is a strong need right now increasing Wellness supports in our schools for students and then

106also increasing Wellness supports for employees across the board and Dr Robbins asked me to keep this brief tonight because the only thing stand between uh you guys and the rest of us is a snowstorm and myself so I'm going to keep this really brief um I think pretty much everybody is aware on the board of our Thrive skills Development I've had the opportunity to present on behalf of this a good part of all of last year in January um just to highlight a couple of things schools can begin the field test implementation one of the things that Amber and I were really excited about is we have 28 elementary schools that are on board and all of our middle schools who are planning to participate um the ultimate goals of that obviously are to build

107and sustain a positive culture in climate in schools create and sustain a safe environment for learning support our teachers with behaviors increase motivation and engagement across the board and of course align with our strategic plan and the portrait of a graduate we had the opportunity a few of us to attend a national school response and safety conference I shared some of this data with the human centered supports group one of the things that really stuck out to me is the concern that 30 percent of all of our students report feeling depressed since the pandemic and that they report feeling disconnected from their peers community and the school setting one of the great things walking away from that conference is the sea stag which is our threat assessment process that we put into practice the last

108couple of years was highlighted as the best practice so it just reiterated and reinforced the great work that Canyons has put forward and best practices and then I've included some indicators for ensuring safe and inclusionary schools which life skills is a part of that as well um just a few slides on student health uh it's broken up into four different categories so we've got uh substance use social emotional Behavior Uh culture and climate in schools and then looking at health risk as it relates to our students and schools um with regards to substance use it it does increase with age but overall use is down from 17 and 19 which is great to see on the flip side of that vaping probably to no surprise to anyone has been on the rise since the pandemic

109and we're currently looking at some online modules for Vape cessation and working with our schools for prevention and education programs as we know that's a huge huge need across the board um is it relates to social emotional health uh again depression significantly up and then just to highlight a couple of things again to No Surprise kids are spending a lot of online time uh with their media which is having a correlational effect on their sleep uh one of the interesting things there is our our students and canyons are actually getting less sleep than the state average which obviously is a concern uh and then physical activity and perception of overall health uh has decreased since the pandemic as well which could be intertwining with mental health community and school climate safety just a couple things

110to point out there the perceived importance of schools down significantly since the pandemic this has been a major topic of focus in fact we spent a good portion of our mtss meeting this morning talking about Solutions towards this and we also feel that attendance reflects this perception that our students are feeling and so we're actually going to be conducting a student survey to get some qualitative responses so we can respond to the needs of kids what are they thinking what are they feeling why are they not attending school how much are they missing school and being able to provide that survey data to all of our students across the district so we can look at it from multiple different viewpoints um and then our instructional supports team again a big part of our mtss conversation

111is just getting our teachers back to that re-engagement the best practices in the classroom uh so that kids are are wanting to come and feel the value and what they're learning overall uh community and school climate a couple things to point out there the positive School environment has remained steady in schools which is great that's actually a celebration I think for all of us our teachers in particular and our Educators that students are feeling safe at school and they feel like there's somebody that they can connect with at school which is important and then Educators praising students has also remained steady since uh the pandemic itself as well which is great to see um as we look at risk factors just a couple things to point out again that low commitment to school and the

112reflection on attendance that we're seeing we actually met as a policy committee on Friday taking a look at the attendance policy currently in the district and we'll be re-reviewing that at our next meeting um so we're looking at ways to counterbalance accountability for students but also upholding uh you know positive rewards and positive positive behavior for students that are attending school as well so that trying to balance that pendulum on both sides um and then perceived School Improvement or School involvement and rewards are up as well so again our teachers our staff are rewarding kids for the positive behaviors that they're seeing in schools uh safety which is our state reporting utility um I just wanted to show some trend lines there the the suicide is the one that's one of the highest we had

113three calls that come in late night last week I was on the phone with parents from Hillcrest Albion and Drake Park uh to late hours of the night and then you can see the trends there with Boeing cyber bullying is actually up bullying is down physical bullying uh and then the mental health and depression um so look again just looking at trend line data across the board our use is down a little bit with safe UT and I think a part of that has to do with the pandemic itself and again retraining re-educating re-informing kids that they can actually utilize this app to connect with a counselor and so we've done a lot of Outreach in response to that in fact Jeff and I had some conversations on how we can bolster that advertisement for

114that utility which is which it say it's literally saving lives um our nurses are an important piece to the puzzle as well as it relates to health I'm not going to go through all those but just wanted to highlight the tier one Vision screenings you can see they've done over 20 000 students the number of active health care plans just over 800 and a new assignment to School nurses is auditory screenings so they're going to be taking that on as of this year and the projected number There is close to 16 000 that they'll be serving so just a shout out to our school nurses they do a tremendous job and a lot of times we talk about mental health but we know that physical health and mental health like I said are intertwined and

115so we never want to lose sight of that or the efforts of the work of our School nurses um priority two is part of the HCS group I was looking at tiered systems we're really excited we pulled all of our Specialists together last week I was literally I think Nate myself Wendy and Amber were all really excited about just what's to come with this because we're collaborating as as four departments across the board and trying to provide the best services to our schools and so what we're looking to do is we're using the tiered Fidelity inventory to evaluate all of our school's mtss models at all three tiers and we've set up interviews as administrators from each of our departments with all of our principals in the district and we're planning to utilize the research

116and development and data that comes out of that to for our June leadership training for our principals this summer this will also allow us to look at things at a local school level but also aggregately looking at Trends and where we can provide stronger supports from our Specialists and from our administrators here back to the schools um increasing Wellness supports for students is our priority three um we know that we're we've got a loss investor fundings coming up which is going to impact our area pretty significantly um and we've been asked to do some some reduction as well so we're looking at uh working with some of our secondary schools uh with school coverage and land trust and tssa just because they have more um funding than our elementaries looking at doing some Grant reconfiguration

117so sliding people under Grant based funding and adding to that with grant-based funding as much as possible attrition but this will potentially have an impact to our strategic plan as it relates to Wellness supports for students um our principals when I've had conversations with them is we've been out and about we're getting a lot of positive feedback with regards to the social workers and the supports that they have in the schools um and they you know with student connection achievement and just an overall uh positive culture and climate in their schools which is great to hear um priority three as well as supports for employees this is really Steve Diamond's uh expertise and so moving forward he and I are actually going to collaborate and build an agenda so that he can present out on

118this uh instead of me leading because he's really the expert as it relates to our HR supports here in the district but just a few things I wanted to highlight we've opened gems for employees we've obviously added the additional time allocations for teachers in the schools um requests for ESP employment satisfaction survey I know was something that Steve is working on that request has been made and then obviously the board Employee Appreciation and recognition that President shill um introduced to us excited to see where that goes as well in terms of appreciation and recognition which we can never do enough of them um and then just lastly looking at this slide here I won't go in depth on it but um you know Dr Robbins asked us to look at our priorities what measurables that

119we can look to use to quantify our efforts as it relates to each of those priorities and then programs training support resources that we may need to add edit change adjust as it relates back to those priority efforts with human centered supports so my ideal vision is to come up with a visual conceptual framework of what this looks like for Canaan School District so we can share that with all of our stakeholders questions okay thank you um Mrs Oaks and Mr Edelman Mrs nylon okay Brian I don't want you to think that I am not valuing your presentation but I'm going to have a slight detour for a minute in light of the weather I actually would um we're getting reports of how extreme the roads are right now and it's not looking good and

120people are going to need a lot of extra time to get home so I like to make a motion to move up item C which is the 2023-2024 budget update um to Item B and um and move the current Item B which is the district case management team secondary proposal to a future board meeting so that we can all get home so but that I'm not coming short the discussion and I will have a problem safety for employees presentation directly oh second not motion okay so we have a motion to um move up item C to Item B and then to possible and Item B which is the DC Mt proposal um so and we have a second to that motion so any discussion to that motion okay no discussion so I will call for

121a vote on that motion all in favor say aye aye aye any imposed okay that vote is unanimous so we'll finish with this and then go on to the budget discussion but I think we have some questions so Mr edel and then Mrs nybar yeah so my biggest question is what do we as a board and I don't know who can answer this but what do we need to do to get it started so that we can get the ESP survey out this was talked about with the previous board um this was talked about in our committee meeting uh and it seems like the answer keeps being uh it needs to start we need to get that started what do we need to do to get that started so we can we can get a

122better picture as to what's happening with our esps because we know it's not good right now well being over student services Steve Diamond do you want to speak to that the climate surveys have been under the direction of the board underneath the Round Table I believe was what it was called so I believe it is just the climate or the satisfaction surveys well it's kind of the same thing the same but for esps but a specific one yeah we haven't done that one before yes so I would conclude with is it something we can direct as a board or is it something we need a motion for can we get started yeah I think I don't think we need emotion I don't I don't think it needs to be emotional advice direct direction to the

123administration okay the board are we all okay with moving forward with that yes okay thank you everyone is a favor so superintendent we would love you to get working on that okay thank you Mr Diamond okay and um Mrs Neymar has a question for Mr Meadows I think just a comment um Dr McGill how long have you been in the position of student responsive services now a little over a year a little over a year I just wanted to thank you for the extensive amount of work you've spent in this last little over a year developing Thrive as well as this huge undertaking of the human-centered supports in the midst of B.J Weller that had the accident and all the heavy lifting that you had to do for that there's so much work that goes

124into this um I your the program that was developed through the parents and the chair department heads and yourself that's called Thrive I I just think this is a great example of an individual that thrived with so many responsibilities that we've given you so I just want to say thank you because I know with the weather and you just gave a very extensive report and with that extensive report is an inordinate amount of time that you've dedicated and I really appreciate not only the amount of time but the passion you bring to this and one thing that I'm excited about is when we were meeting in our committee meeting and your emphasis and focus of keeping students engaged in their learning and how that relates to the attendance issues and the training you did with

125the principals so I'm grateful that you've just so recently been fresh out of Alta High and have such a heartbeat kind of on what's going on in our high schools too so I just wanted to say thank you um I know there's a snowstorm but that I just wanted to make sure that you were recognized for all that amount of work and as well as all the people you know that have helped you that yeah I appreciate it Holly and yeah I mean Amber's group and my team collectively together a lot of Specialists from other departments collaborated on this project and uh you know I think the board call it a Herculean task we're not quite all the way there but we're we're pretty close and I feel I'm you know feel very proud of

126the work that's been done collectively so thank you okay any other discussion board um this is tingy um thank you um for the presentation the amazing work as as has been mentioned so um earlier in our study session we talked about um Gathering up some suggestions for some indicators and some targets and things like that so I really appreciate that part of this report that where you've already done that work and you've put forward some suggestions so thank you for doing that appreciate that thanks Misty okay um it looks like I think there's no more questions so thank you so much for your presentation and we look forward to more work on that committee from that committee so sounds good thank you okay now we're going to go on to Item B 2023 2024 budget

127update Leon Wilcox business administrator thank you president we'll try to get through this quickly due to the weather uh again just uh as we start to develop next year's budget just going through some some issues that we're going to face again focus on the Strategic plan as we move out we're going to use the term workout from the students yeah you know Rick and I are soundly against any increase in class sizes at all that's not an option for us and we know we need to look at any wpu increase not to backfill budget deficits but to try to keep our employees all going forward with inflationary purposes you know for inflation that they're facing there uh we don't want to look at just straight across the board Cuts we want to look at various

128factors that we've been looking at in the last year see a list of those there we went over this actually in November so these are just a little from that moving forward uh again I want to just command Amy boyker here tonight for all the work that she's done on working with Canyons online she's actually going to rebound rebranded Canyons Virtual Academy so that's coming up I think that's great for her you can see these are our enrollments on K-5 grades there's 60 of them as of last week one of the things that we've also noticed is that we're actually below Benchmark in these areas for our students and then our brick and mortar schools and we've also noticed some engagement on it you know during the class time as we try to teach synchronous

129there so again our our has Administration our proposal moving forward is this that we move Virtual Academy thanks to Amy and her team moving that from a K-12 model to a 4 through 12th model okay uh teachers all teachers who work on Canyons online today would be involuntary transport according to our policy they should still have they will still have a job who have they choose to accept it but it will be back in person however we do expect we will hire what we call Four success coaches mostly out of this pool we think but it would be open to any employees these coaches were service all grades to 4 through 12. we will still have a coach in a counselor position we had those this year they will remain as our proposal uh grades

130four and five will be parent-led by and supported by the success coaches the middle schools will move to will start hiring adjunct teachers similar to the high schools so they will still teach the core classes mainly the core classes with a few electives thrown in there not much really changes at all except with the high school they will still be all adjunct as it was before we had the Canyons online the last couple years but you know we've had Canyons on see we call it cvhs been in place for about a decade now we look at our budget contraction moving forward as you know most of the online is paid out of our s responding this will save us 11 licensed positions to ESP positions uh moving forward so yeah thank you to Amy with

131that so we'll move forward to another topic maybe address all these and then you can come back if there's any questions at the end so moving on we've talked about the s or Cliff if you will uh right now we're paying about 56 employees out of essers you can see them there listed there uh and it costs about four and a half million in salary and benefits right now we've done some work and we've equaled out the dollar amount not quite the employee amount but the dollar amount which is one I'm more concerned with how we looked moving forward so these have been difficult Cuts these are tough because it does Impact Services and what we can deliver in all areas here so it can go down there's two in techno I.T a couple in

132transportation you know if bus breaks down we're gonna have one less mechanic there as we move forward you know we're opening up in cyber security without you know our Tech director of tech so all these have impacts uh we will you know right now we are the bottom I guess three would be four I guess the the secondary health assistants or on our secondary schools we're going to have to they're told the principals there we'll need to pull those if they still want that position into the tssp plans land trust or tfsa uh then we've also given instructional supports 10 ftes that will need to reduce there over the next two years and same with Brian he he highlighted that as well as well as the online so that's our plan moving forward to try

133to get to that point where we need to be on on budget reduction equal that out some additional factors you know again we're paying about 15 ftes out of Astro funds we're going to have to work with the school to try to get them in that allocation but that's going to be difficult because we have you know we talked a little bit about class size and interventions and everything dealing with that uh a couple other things we're looking at is using our uh using our answer funds working with Gretchen to buy our a big batch of library books and then reduce the ongoing allocation to schools we've now save us about 110 we think going forward in the next few years working with Nate we run a 68 special ed routes we're hoping to reduce

134those by 10 over the next couple years they all won't be next year but that's you know as we look at IEP plans can some of our ACC students write a regular Ed bus we we think they can and be fine that way so we're writing those into plans uh again that's a two or three year process so to work through that and then in part of the antipropes budget was to increase online at-risk students will look at you know we expect if that whole 51 million gets allocated or or watered by the legislature with that would be about 2.3 to us hoping we can use some of that to shore up some of these backfill positions here uh so as we again there's other things that will move forward and discuss at later times

135uh I want to just talk about and bring this up right here uh we you know when we had a legislative lunch we put out some of the increased cost of inflation and so we gave that to our legislators based on what the certified tax rate does again the certified tax rate no inflationary Factor all it is is New Growth new properties coming onto the payrolls there's no inflationary factor in that so for the last time we did our truth and Taxation of the FY 20 year you know tell the FY 23 our new growth is gone for the certain you know the three levees are comprising certified tax rate has gone up five million dollars basically five percent and so I wanted to briefly show some of the costs how they've inflated how those

136inflation factors have gone and some of our positions from that point up to now so you can see what a new first-year teacher cost you know we were I think Cork City beat us to 50 000 but we were the next right and now we're up to that 54 6. again that's a 4 600 increase but a 9.3 percent over the last three years see what our bus driver first year bus driver makes first year custodian makes they're under the 1516 range a brain booster worth a degree again 20 again these are needed positions we're trying to fill them with their labor shortage a big one is our health insurance claims we use an education and in Insurance all kinds of acronyms the most common one is p e p e p m per employee

137per month cost on claims I think so the I want to look you know our assurance our insurance goes plan is on a calendar year basis so I want to look at the previous year before Colbert because that cover did impact what are pepm was and it was 956 dollars in 2019 that calendar year in 22 here we just ended it going up to just under 1200 so uh you see the almost a 25 increase in insurance claims that's a bit that's big there are some other costs you know maintenance parts just in our maintenance department our fuel cost again I looked at fy20 of course that's covered here we shut down in March you know we we spent 882 but as of end of January we were already 920 expecting to be in that

1381.7 million dollar range when it's all said and done you can see the cost there almost doubled good fuel prices fortunately we're not we're pretty much done building new school that we still have lots of needs as we talk field houses and everything those costs have gone up exponentially as well so you know I can see costs about 40 percent on new construction this is a big one but then again the very bottom one that's just hit us probably hit your fuel bills a lot from January of last year to January this year you can see what a decatherm of heat costs us up 28 percent in our schools this that's just a one-year increase so you can see what costs are we're going to have a very difficult time in Niagara fact there's a

139very good chance we're not going to break even this year meaning our our expenses will exceed our our revenues meaning we'll dip it into our fund balance this year because of all these inflationary costs and we do have a good fund balance but you know you can't go to that often and there's other things that we've bought you know parent Square which has been great uh New Zealand we used to offset that by a textbook fee some of that by a textbook fee that we can no longer charge but this year we are paying that whole thing uh fee waivers that's how much we had in B waivers last year kind of on track to get the same this year and whether or not the we'd hit the fee schedule whether or not that's going

140to fund it all probably not will probably going to be a little bit short there the transportation platform or you know it was 141 000 this car with ucsi 390 000. so all these costs that are so needed but bounding up on us so that's why I'm just going to put this out there right now again we have a few months and a time to talk about our budget but I am going to put out their a possible tax increase knowing that we have to with no inflationary factor and certified tax rate you do have to go out and capture that inflation every four to six years it'll be four years since our last one right just using numbers here okay if we were to just generate five million dollars to cover all these inflationary

141costs and as we move into negotiations what we need to give our employees uh you know just this is how these rates would look again still early in the process until we get all the information from the state and the county but it's important to also note that the basic rate which you know the state had froze for five years is going away that freeze and so that's going to drop down this year so you can see there that Top Line it was 1650 the last couple years right now and I'm using Senate bill one the base budget it's 14. could change there are other two other bills out there that actually have a lower but that is a they haven't really moved much but you can see what I propose is adjusting our board

142Levy there without the tax increase on the far right or my far right and then with the tax increase the blue there how that looks to our patrons on their tax statements it's important to realize that again generating the five million dollars keep in mind there will be three lines they see on their property tax state uh that second line there you can see the basic Levy drop so the First Column there again if it stays about 14 and again I also want to emphasize I'm using the average home value because homes have seemed to stabilize in price right uh so I'm using the exact same home value last year to this year that's going to change for everybody but overall they seem to have stabilized in price last year on the basic rate they

143would have paid 590 dollars this year they'll pay about 400 about 500 so about a 90 dollar savings there and then with the other rates pulled in with some new growth and and our bond being able to reduce that down you can see there a taxpayer overall if we on the average tax average we increased it by 52.48 that would bring us in the five million dollars that taxpayer should be noted down there in the little box there on the black outline with no increase it'll save about 118 dollars if we do the 52 dollar increase they will still have about a 66 dollar savings with that okay again that's different going to be different spread out but I just want to put that out there because the basic rates going off you know to

144you know overall they're still paying less taxes to the school district I don't know what cities and counties in the county will do they can still see they would pay 2095 with this tax increase whereas last year they paid you know 21.60 about a sixty five sixty six dollar difference sale so I'm just putting that out there we can talk more about that as we get closer but I do feel like as your business administrator with the inflation what they are we have to look at that three of our neighbors in Salt Lake County raise taxes last year us and Murray were the only two who did not get a three did so that's that's an issue that we have so with that leave it at that because our time is short but if you

145have any questions comments okay board are there questions um Mr edel so I want to say that less preprint larger tax stabilization efforts are really difficult for people um so when it goes a long period of time before we stabilize the tax rate and that's really what we have to do is we have to stabilize the tax rate that hits people a lot harder than if there's a a gradual change and so that's something we need to keep in mind as we look at this I also want to point out uh how important it is that we remain competitive with our salaries um uh our employees can't continue to work 50 to 60 hours a week we have to make sure that we have competitive wages and well it would be great if the state

146would properly fund our education system um I think that we have a duty to ensure that we take care of our people here um and and that's one of the things as well as to ensure uh that our Title One schools are taken care of as our students that need the most support shouldn't have the newest teachers um so these are just some things to keep in mind as we have these hard discussions uh moving forward these high discussions among the board these high discussions with our constituents these high discussions uh with all stakeholders yeah and I also very good comment thank you Mr I'd also want to mention you can see their five million fifty dollars on average house gives you about five million dollars you know so you can extrapolate that down a

147little bit you know so four forty dollars roughly give or take gives you four million dollars sixty dollars give or take give you six six million dollars so basically ten dollars for every million dollar that you generate on the average home look at it that way as well so okay um this is stingy uh thank you just really quick here um thank you for providing all this information of the inflationary increases I think that's very very yes it's sobering I know for me I've mentioned to a lot of people how we don't have built-in inflation adjustments and and even you know the state did do a built-in inflation adjustment for the wpu and it's what 3.5 percent or something like that um and I and I get it because it's on a rolling five-year average

148but but this is really it's sobering and stunning and I think it's good information to have out there for our public so they understand the the realities of what we're facing and as you mentioned that CPI is based on what they call course Epi it excludes two things that have been highly impacted which is food and fuel so they are taken out of that wpu increase okay are there any other comments um this is Pederson if there is no increase of monies coming in and we don't do the the tax increase are we going to be able to meet the commitments that we've already committed you know things that we've committed to already well every year we go through a negotiation process with our employees that's that's that's well and I know that the teachers

149and the public are going to want to know where is that six thousand dollars that that the legislature said they were giving to all the teachers and it's important or yeah it's important to note that that is actually forty two hundred dollars right uh in their in their growth right that will be different for everyone sure but at forty two hundred dollars the other 1800 which is actually not that much it's about 1400 pays insurance I mean retirement and uh and uh FICA costs so yeah I think it's important that we state that because I think parents or the community or even our teachers think that that full amount is going to come in and that never happens it never does our checks don't work that way yeah you're exactly right and keep in mind

150as I go back to the insurance claim policy that there's nothing built in on that for insurance health insurance plan so yeah um Mrs neibar I too am grateful for the information you gave regarding the inflation and what what that means for us specifically um I also just wanted to Echo what uh Mr edles said I definitely believe that with everything that's happening for people we've talked about this before but those the the value of their home almost seems like an artificial thing for people who aren't moving or selling their home and so you know um the time you and I and Miss Oaks met with with some concerned constituents about what was going on with their taxes and although that was isn't going to be renewed this session and you know we know where

151where that responsibility really lied with assessment but I do think it is just very important that we keep in mind that you know that the the things we do are gradual and that it's not breaking anyone's back so that's also important to consider especially at it's very difficult for people to be mobile at this time too and um you know if if there was a huge increase in stabilization there may be people that would feel like they could no longer afford to live in the home they've lived in for 20 years so something to consider too okay thank you I'm Mrs Oaks thanks Lynn do you love being the bearer of bad news [Laughter] sometimes yeah that's why you have to come up with jokes right balance it out um yeah the inflationary Personnel costs

152I knew they were high I had no idea how high these were and this is really insightful for me when I'm having conversations with legislators and I would hope anyone who's listening to us who's one of the 13 people who get on every board meeting or more that they take these as screenshots and have communications with their legislators some of the dialogue and the rhetoric up on Capitol Hill seems to be functioning a little bit of a vacuum where they assume that a six percent wpu increase is adequate this doesn't come anywhere close it doesn't it doesn't even it's the tip of the iceberg and and it's not a function of us being money grubbing it's a function of us keep trying to keep our doors open and maintain basic quality education um I've already

153sent these screenshots to Charlie and Susan I think any of us who have opportunities or the ability to communicate with our legislators we need to be doing that more aggressively this is anyway I I just can't even believe it over 20 consistently on so many of these over 40 over 80 percent it's just it's mind-blowing and you know I absolutely agree with Miss nybar about the importance of being sensitive to older people especially who have a fixed income and property taxes the other part of that though is and someone in our usba meeting brought this up the other day we Town ourselves as a state who focuses so much on the state of our economy and that we're the strongest economy in the nation but we also need to be known as a state that

154provides high quality education and your home is only worth so much this quality of your schools is not great so anyway this is I appreciate you ripping off the Band-Aid it's helpful for us to see it I hope that the public is paying attention we are not trying to gouge anyone we really are trying just to keep the lights on and keep things moving forward and making sure that those in our buildings are being taken care of and not sustainable too so um I would like to just say a few comments um so last time when we went out and raised taxes it was for a very specific purpose it was for the teacher pay raises and I think we could really justify that so I just think um if we do this tax increase

155we need to make sure that we communicate clearly that it's for inflation and maybe show some of these numbers to our public because I mean they need to understand what we're facing I mean and I think they're facing it too just as they go to the grocery store so um I think that could be important I mean there are districts that raise taxes every single year just like a little bit but we've never really done that and so anyway it's something for us to consider um are there any other comments um this is Neymar sorry one other comment with our our presentation for long range planning and study session I do think at this point in time it is very important to be very thoughtful about some of those schools that are under populated and

156looking to see what we can do as far as consolidating our resources because we can generate income and other ways to our district as well as we look at demographics and things like that and how how the birth rate is affecting things and the youth wave population moving you know for quite some time it's been moving down to the West part of of Salt Lake Cameron and Saratoga Springs and those things and so um with that we do need to be very Mindful and responsible as far as doing what we can to consolidate our costs and and you know a a thriving School Community is best with with a thriving population at the school building as well and so I do think that also needs to be something we heavily consider so okay thank you

157um so I think I think that's how for the budget update um so board would you consider um us postponing board comments or do we all want to say them tonight or are we okay for next time okay then the superintendent just needs to make one announcement just it's already gone public but we will be moving to a remote uh learning day tomorrow and just please everyone out there be safe on the roads the roads are treacherous getting all kinds of feedback that cars are all over the roads and are very dangerous so be safe out there and stay warm and uh hopefully with you know it's enough notice our teachers and staff can be ready for tomorrow okay thank you superintendent and board I think we finished our business so I will call this

158meeting to a close thank you again I know for sure that's okay well I don't know about it I'll go okay I I have some stuff on clothes I mean um um