May 17, 2022 Canyons Board Meeting

001one all right thank you and rick you can hear us all right thank you i'd like to welcome everyone to the meeting of the canyons board of education today is may 17 2022 and we're meeting at the district office located at 9361 south 300 east and i'd like to just recognize that superintendent robbins is joining us via zoom so with that the first item on our study session is a comprehensive guidance report i will turn the time over to tori gillette school counseling program specialist welcome sorry are the foreign ones thank you everyone good evening um he was just mentioning too much of that it feels like we've had a we've gone through a lot of school here it's been a long school year and it's i can't believe that it's already almost over um

002so um happy to be here and reporting who are in order for on the accounting program so um i wanted to go over with you uh brian and i met and we had we wanted to talk a little bit about school counselor to students ratios uh the school counseling program is um in utah code and this is just a section of the code that talks about two as a school counseling approved program all of our schools are all of our secondary schools are um it is required that we have a one to three hundred and fifty some counselor to student ratio um as poor per utah code now in utah code counseling is currently still only uh talking about grades seven through twelve and so they are working at hoping to in increase counseling to

003be a k-12 program but currently the the funding streams that come through are specifically for 7th 12. um the american school counseling association however recommends has been recommending since since the early or mid 60s that counselor suit ratios should be 1 to 250. and has a lot of research supporting that when there you have a smaller student counselor counselor to student ratio you have an increase in standardized test scores attendance gpa graduation rates college and career readiness as well as a decrease in disciplinary infractions so this along with other information that we know continues to promote the importance of having lowering our student to counsel ratio in in your board updates from dr robins for may um he mentioned that one of his goals is to have a culture of cultural readiness by lowering the

004student to counsel ratio in schools as well so i know that's also an importance of us as a school district as well as um in uh having a stronger focus on fafsa which or fafsa um submissions which is a big uh part of what counselors do and a big push that they have is helping students apply for um fafsa and receiving those funds so so between those three things it does show how important that lowering that counselor-to-student ratio is and what we can do and how it can support the students in the schools over the years you can see that our ratio has been meeting the 350 to 1 ratio now i did include sixth graders in this um because when as we were reporting it to the states we were excluding the sixth graders

005and and they just were a little bit skewed into what our ratios really were so for this purposes i did include sixth graders into our ratios um so you can see that as a state or as a district we do we have been meeting that ratio however one thing to consider with this that when we meet the ratio it doesn't we don't have to report to the state the ratio by school we only report the ratio by district so some schools such as diamond ridge has currently has wanted to have counselors for 100 students they're going to go into that that ratio and so it can affect whether or not we're it affects whether or not we have to do a ratio report because if we are not meeting the 350 to one we have

006to do a racial report to the state of how we're going to meet that so it can affect that um and so i also want to show you what we are looking at school by school so this over the years has been our ratios um and what we've been seeing in school for over the last few years um so these are our high schools so you can kind of look and see the trend most of our high schools were trending we're trying to trend down to a lower ratio some of them would stay pretty consistent the reason why there's an asterisk on brighton this year is brighton was allowed to hire and they had openings for two and a half uh councillors this year um sorry two counselors this year and they ended um they

007decided to hire two interns so interns get paid half pay but are there full time so that include that proves our ratio to be um a lower ratio uh but there are interns uh that are going to be there um as they're going to train them into hopes for next year if they interviewed they felt like these two interns were their best candidates and who they wanted to train so so that's why that one's a have that asterisk there um for those but the the one that has been we've been working on over the last couple years the most is our uh middle school ratios when we moved to six eight when we were seven nine um we moved to six eight that would have been before 2019 um at the time we weren't the

008double p wpu wasn't including the sixth graders into that ratio of how many councils were assigned at every school and so you guys so graciously as well as superintendent and and leon um uh changed that formula so that we could include sixth graders into that ratio so that we could have the 400 to one which is what the wpu um covers for our middle schools as well and so that really helped especially draper park at the time that was at 1600 students and only having three counselors at the time they were able to get that fourth counselor in 2021 so you're able to see a big decree decrease there but what else we've done with that is many of our schools indian hills middle now jordan in union all were um having interns so they

009were half pay but full time which was great for our ratio but it's difficult because they they did change every year so that consistency of relationships those counselors being there having the same students year after year is going to change every year and so what we've been able to do with the help of principal funding is those four schools have taken their it who was their intern and now added a point by the fte to make it a full-time person so they won't have to change that intern every year and because of that and some other helps of funding strength we were able to get albion and butler an intern for this year and so they were our last two schools that were at the really high ratio at those 450 some years they've been

010super close like 500 to 1. um next year they both have interns that are they work full hours for half pay and so we're slowly but surely bringing these ratios down um the funding streams that we get done the wpu which is 400 to one that's what we get from from state funding and then we get school counseling program add-on funds uh that we get because we follow the school count the state model and every six years our counselors have to go through a formal review process where they show evidence that they're following the state model and because of that we get extra funding from the state and that extra funding we provide at least 0.5 fte in all of our traditional high schools and we've been able to give 0.5 fte to midbuild out

011jordan and union over the past years um and then this year we're going to give some extra funding to um albion as well so that they can they can uh keep that intern that we've been hoping for um some of our schools we've actually increased that um we've been giving hillcrest the last couple years one full um fte as well as jordan to help reduce some of the the ratios in some of our schools that have um the highest turnover of students and and needs that we help them have even lower the other levels is our school levels our school principals have been really good at putting money into their counseling centers through their tssp or their school their land trust most of our high school principals are adding money into their school counseling program

012to increase supports there and reduce the ratio as well as a lot of our middle school principals have done that as well um all over all articles have added them and then we have um grant funding for like growing your own within the new grant that we have um received over the last couple years that we're trying to continue to get that helps helps out here there a little bit so that's where the funding streams are coming from um and you don't want to forget about our elementary schools which five years ago we had no elementary counselors or social workers currently all but three of our elementary schools will have a full-time counselor or social worker in their school next year based on the fte that we've given them or the fte plus principles adding

013into that money so that's a huge support to have somebody there full-time um and the principals have been really grateful to have that that staff so we don't want to forget our elementary even though they are not um funded on the state level we are doing our best to make sure that our inventories have those same supports so we're on a great trajectory we want to keep going um any questions about ratios about funding streams yeah are the sixth graders part of the requirement for the 350 to one they're they're not when i report but the numbers you have in there including the sixth grader if you took the sixth grader that what would the ratios look like they're they're fairly similar because what i usually do when i report on state i take the

014sixth graders out but i also take out um counselor or a third of their counseling team so i take out a third of the students i take out of their other counseling so they have three i take out one sixth graders consume as much counseling time as the other two grades what they don't so that what they don't um consume they do we do just as many classroom just as much classroom and group work and just as many responsive services to students and trans and one of the big things is transitioning them from middle school to high school to middle school or elementary to middle school is a big push in september what they don't consume is they are not required to get a college and career readiness um meeting a plan for culture readiness

015meeting so whereas all the seventh graders and eighth graders we take a lot of time doing that the sixth graders don't that's not a requirement so but still we add a lot of um transition time which takes that time that we would normally do pccr so so i would say it's it's equal if not more than some areas kind of kentucky windy john yeah yeah yeah so yeah so but the federal funding stopping backers how much does that could affect in the next couple of years within the two years when all the federal dollars start drying up um i personally i'm not 100 sure i don't know brian wants to speak to that i i know some schools have been using their tssp and their land trust so i don't know that part of it

016um i don't know which is most likely and looking at our data right now in terms of who we have we've hired with that we've got five nurses three social workers and two intervention mentors that are all being paid through that funding source right now it's not affected counselors not counselors per se but my department yes yes and the social workers are quite the elementary social workers which will affect the elementaries because in elementary we don't we do a counselor or a social worker um because both both licenses can do the model that we're asking them to do so it could affect our elementaries definitely yeah why i had a side conversation with representative elias what are we doing about this esser law all districts are being impacted by it so it's high on his

017radar but gotta get others behind him too so sounds like you'd always just make him enter to give him half the amount of money yeah i don't think that's gonna work consistency over time and the relationship realm because you got people switching it out any other questions um i just want to introduce melissa i think most of you probably know that i'm i'm leaving i've resigned my position and i just took a job with murray high school as an administrative intern i'm currently working on a doctorate with an administration degree um and so i um have resigned and took a position there so melissa baker has been hired to take my spot um and so i wanted to introduce her she's been at jordan high school for the last five years as a counselor and

018before that was at midfield for a year been on jordan for three three years so has had that middle middle school and high school level but put a face to the name and let her see all of you as she will be coming up to to give you your annual reports every year so excited amazingly beautiful big shoes to fill so he's awesome great thank you thank you thanks for watching canyon's has been great and i'm i'm bittersweet to go but yeah it's an opportunity that came up that i felt like with my trajectory needed to pursue and the doctor needed to kind of go that route so new challenges new new learning and i'm excited for that but sad to leave all of you and my all the relationships i've built here and i've

019been 16 years so it's been well we're excited for you congratulations yeah that's good thank you for all of your contributions to not only canyon's district but the students that have been impacted great work we wish you well thank you don't be a stranger stay in touch yes i'll be around thank you thank you thank you thanks for the report hey ford um next on the agenda is we'll take a little bit of time i don't know five minutes each at the most um to for board members to report on um maybe some of the items that they their takeaways from attending the nsba conference various usba or other professional learning experiences maybe any articles or books or anything that you've read and so we'll just take a few minutes now to do sharing along

020those lines want to volunteer to go first thank you mom i came from the nfba conference in san diego i think it's a crap shoot to what class do you go to and what you get out of them and i felt very fortunate just being nancy was in that one of the superintendent was in the same one and i believe it was palo alto school district to present it you were there too somehow we wound up with a lot of in that i know stephen and palo alto is in a porsche is a place in california where they have a very affluent population and giving you the readers digest version they were kind of patting themselves on the back as to how great they were doing with their statistics they would look at all the

021reports shining stars and somebody said let's drill down and see how we are doing in different aspects of our population and so they drill down into the hispanic population all of a sudden your statistics didn't look very good let's drill down in those that are in a lower socioeconomic strata all of a sudden your numbers didn't look good now let's combine hispanic with socioeconomic disadvantaged families and see how we're doing and they really really stuck it up and the crux of what happens they looked at that and said what can we do to service the students that we are not reaching because you know quite honestly the kids that come from the more affluent families are going to do traditionally better than those that come from socioeconomically disadvantaged families and it changed their approach into

022how they targeted funds how they targeted education to make it work for all students in their district now i would think they had more of a homogeneous population than we do i would think we are probably far more diverse than they are but i came out of there thinking uh in all five of our comprehensive high schools we have kids that come in those areas and are we really servicing them as well as we should and that i would say would be my major takeaway from nsbn conference there's a whole lot more i can go into but i'm going to just leave it at that okay um i'm gonna highlight three classes oh actually just um just two one of them's the same as one but my first class i want to talk about is

023it was element of going first i won't repeat you i'll say differently so the first one is elevating student voice and this was put on by actual high school students from washington state and you know they do it a little differently but just some of the takeaways which i think we could maybe do with our student advisory council is they have students report a board meeting which i like that idea and the students actually you know our students not those but our students said they would like to um see what their opinions like what do we do with their opinions like they want to get feedback on that and so i really like that they also have their students um they have them involved in advocacy of the legislature which i thought was really interesting

024like they have create or expand opportunities for student representatives to advocate at the legislature and i thought they seemed like they really enjoyed that so i thought we could maybe talk about that another thing they said is mentoring students so like assign a board member to students and for estimating i like that i do then another thing they did because they're actually voted on district-wide so district-wide these students are voted on they're not saying we should do that but they are voted on to represent students so those students would actually go visit the elementary schools but they were over and i really liked that idea too because they would go meet with the students and ask them questions and actually get feedback from you know the middle school elementary i thought that was a great

025idea okay so yeah my other classes same one as mont early literacy leading from the front and they actually had a name for their strategic plan they had gone through a strategic planning process and they called it the palo alto promise so anyway i just thought maybe do we want to name our strategic plan i don't know it's just an idea um and they just talked about a funnel to action and so governance review data set direction then their strategic plan and then the next three steps which okay i mean that's what where we are now is prioritize resources implement those are like the next three steps and they said they need you need to start with data points which let's talk about how like they drilled down on what they needed and then they

026just said review the results revise and start the cycle again and um they just said if a plan fails it's gonna probably fail in the bottom those last three stages so that's where we are people we need to implement make sure that we prioritize um what was the last thing and then in the end they talked about half their budget is going to early literacy which i was like wow i think they have way more money than we do but what's what they did talk about though is kind of what our state is already doing like the science of reading what we're doing with um what does that what are elementary teachers doing that there's i don't know why i wanted to say stupid blenders letters i wonder and and they also adopted a new

027curriculum which we just did so anyway i think we're kind of um we're kind of doing some of the things they did to fix their problem but um and then the the last thing is the resources your number one resource is is your time not your money which is interesting because that's all about how we prioritize this and i want to start by looking my student like at student data like that's what we need to do first not yeah about what else pet projects we all may have anyway that's that's my paperwork thank you so much every year i sort of have a theme that i go take a look for so this theme was sort of put in their first ones teachers and student well-being mental health of our staff and this was kind

028of beyond the endemic there were several of these and they put a point about sort of the same thing education burnout educator burnout and signs to be aware of we're having a lot of educator burnout we're talking about 55 turnover across the country and a lot of our special elementaries we've in addition to all the covet stuff and the kids we've changed their curriculum almost totally so we have to be very careful with that population um you're exhausted physically and mentally and how burnout that affects the students if the teachers are burned out like the parent mind burned out as a parent it affects your kids um and uh we cannot do more with less because at some point we need to try to figure out how what do we have to do as far

029as priorities is or not leads to just one day just leaving one day and we've seen that i think on the average we had like about three teachers just get up and walk out in the middle of the year i think we're like 22 or more this year just burn out and just get up and leave in the middle of the year and go other places so they talked about this great resignation it is hitting us and because of burnout stuff on what can we do to help teachers and set boundaries and and then they talked about the need for the community to support the teachers and not just the schools alone and we've seen a lot of this community pull away from our teachers in some cases become somewhat adversarial to them which is

030sad because the teachers are needing that at this time if we care about our show we must support our children's teacher for they spend the most time with them and are their biggest influence of anybody that's at school uh we need to prioritize as we can do and we cannot do it all there's just uh so much being done asked of everybody we need to pick and choose and we can only focus on one thing at a time and i guess we can't because most of the time we have seven things we need to focus on but we need to figure out what that is that's burning had another session that was very similar to that is the well this one here is again the portrait of a graduate and the district transformation uh this

031particular district um says we need to have a more inspiring tagline for example where sets begin and success begins we have our mission statement we may want some kind of just tagline it's almost like a short thing i mean uh i've got my tagline for my life in addition to mimicious nobody has time to listen to the mission statement um he talked about a k k through eighth grade portrait of a graduate too and having one for each gay grade which was interesting um learning uh says learning a loss more intentional and drills and and kill will not lead to better outcomes we need to think different and try different things these skills will help prepare for future employment that may not even be developed at the current time in this talk that there's what

032about 60 70 jobs our kids are very that they're full right now jobs aren't even developed yet so a lot of the stuff we're doing is for stuff in future they talked about the need in this particular thing to have our uh develop a culture where students are valued and taught to be leaders and they were using the leader and me program and having the students step up as leaders and they also most of the programs i went to are using quite a bit in their programs um the third one is we talked about life-ready graduates and they're again 65 percent of the kids today work at jobs i think dividers have the kids today we'll work in jobs they don't even exist yet that was an interesting topic um and a whole bunch of

033notes but um and then the last one was sort of on the same thing the college academy uh i think we're starting to go that direction but uh it's an 80 88 or go on to college after their programs so in their particular and this was uh where was this out yeah dual pro dual credit programs basically we have a couple in our schools need to develop a partnership team meets every month they actually get the associate's degree and not follow the credits it features your joint employees so they have a college campus mentor that they hire so like the college counselor but actually that person helps them uh uh keep them on track from ninth grade through twelfth grade um and would be there will be their mentor i think this is sort of

034the direction a lot of what we're talking about in different classes is stepping it up and our kids are not only graduating high school but they'll be graduating college in many cases and we're starting to do that i think that probably means that they're saying pretty much being all of our schools and that may be a good thing to look for so there was it was a good conference there were several good things but i think the theme was mostly take care of your staff and deal with them no so um i really loved it because four years ago or three years ago when i attended an sba for the first time i um we got to hear sir ken robinson speak as the keynote speaker and i was so excited because so much of

035the thoughts and ideas that he shared and did his life's work on were things that deeply impacted me and the way i view education and its importance and i feel like three years later i saw lots of bits and pieces of things that he had sent out into the educational universe come back and being implemented and being used um namely there is a lot of discussion about 21st century learning whole learning deeper learning about developing skills and mindsets and children that for just like what steve was talking about are going to take jobs that don't even currently exist but that they know how to adapt and and change to the what's coming um one of the things they talked about kind of like steve mentioned was drill and kill really doesn't work um that hands-on

036learning is very important in that we allow our teachers to have a little bit of breathing room and that really contributes to lessening the teacher burnout too allowing them some breathing room and how they teach creatively um they this district in particular that presented they are strong believers in having hands-on stem learning every single week project-based learning every single week um and they said you know project-based learning is happening in pockets throughout your district but is it consistent everywhere and it needs to become systemic and that really made an impact on me because i i have seen great project-based learning stem learning happening like he said in pockets the goal is for it to really to become consistent across the board they actually had an outline for how they were going to accomplish steam learning

037at different levels and and the way that they they did this they did k through two that students will use engineering design this is for their steam they'll use engineering design principles to solve problems using introductory coding math science and technology and they gave specific mention of what tools they'll use lego sphero ozobots block coding ipads and green screen um you know then three through five they kind of they adapt it six through eight and nine through twelve it was really specific and really awesome and one of the things that they did in several of their schools is they took their computer labs which you know in some ways are kind of outdated neat um and they said we're going to turn these into steam labs and actually have opportunities for them to to use

038this and some of the pictures that they had on the screen were amazing where they were doing animation um robotics all sorts of different things and they would reach out to the local industry and say what kind of things do you want these students to be learning some of them actually sponsored some of the student loans and they were accomplishing some really cool things um the that presentation was actually related to another one that um i really liked it turned out that the presenters knew each other so i guess i shouldn't have been surprised but one of the things that they said was when we were measuring seat time we're measuring the wrong end of the student which i thought was funny he said you know there's a difference between saying they're in their seat

039they're receiving this but are they really fully engaged and learning how to effectively evaluate that and look at that he said in the classroom you can be amazingly innovative with little to no technology and extremely traditional with all possible technical tools at your fingertips and i thought that was a very good point he he brought up the fact that not every kind of technology use is created equal and making sure that it's you're getting really bang for your buck is very important he said it needs to be interactive and the use of technology needs to be there for exploration rather than for drill and kill and that there needs to be the correct blend of teachers and technology obviously you can't just hand it all over but um i don't know i i walked away

040feeling extremely happy about the things that we have come up with in the strategic plan he did talk about how when it comes to um implementing your strategic plan begin with the end of mind and really educate the public they created like a 60-second video for the public to be able to watch and understand what had been created and um some of what was in the strategic plan because they said it is important for your public to have buy-in and understanding of what's going on and why you're leading with what you are so anyway those are my takeaways i i really enjoyed it i'm glad it's fourth i will refer to it as brain time thank you holly go next it's kind of along that vein so i participated in an online conference and that

041really impacted me and and really as i as we've just gone through the strategic vision for our district and that plan i just feel that this is very relative when we look at the implementation so um in this conference it was mentioned that dr laurie santos professor eel university recently created a class titled psychology and the good life and the first year the class was offered nearly a quarter of the entire undergraduate student body enrolled and then over 64 million people visited her podcast one journalist noted how painful it is to see so many bright young students and adults despairing or desperately looking for something they've lost or worse yet they're longing for something they feel they never had um it's been said that the power of youth is the commonwealth for the entire world

042and i believe that our district that we that our students they're the faces of our future and so if we look at that we have the capacity to teach our our students that that um that they can be the good in the world and i think if we cultivate our students minds to see the good and to be the good that we can kind of safeguard against some negative attitudes and destructive habits that are happening currently with our kids i'm sure many of you have also read the book glow kids by dr nicholas kurt and i'm going to mispronounce his name okay card cirrus but in this in this book he talks a lot about the research linked with with children's brains and how our screen time is dopamine dopamine activating and that there is

043there's a growing mountain of clinical research that correlates screen tech with disorders like adhd addiction anxiety depression increased aggression and even psychosis most shocking of all recent brain imaging studies conclusively show that excessive screen exposure can neurologically damage a young person's developing brain in the same way that a cocaine addiction can you know a lot of people have gone through and reviewed all of those clinical studies but i feel that something we really need to address in our strategic vision we talked a lot about access to high quality learning and how it is hands-on that we're learning inside and outside and that we're collaborative and that we're across curriculum and we're integrating the arts and that we're very interactive i think that as a district we need to when we look at implementation we need

044to be very judicious and selective about the screen time in our classrooms and how much we're assigning of it in in homework and i know the higher our children are getting in their educational experience middle and high you know that's increasing we've talked this year about our increased absences and we know there's been the moratorium set by state legislators because of covid and that we've talked about there isn't teeth in our policies but also we need to recognize that a large contributing factor to increased absences is actually the addition of chromebooks where students feel that they're going to have the same experience at home on their dining room table on their chromebook than if they were in class and so we need to make sure that our the students learning is engaging and that they

045feel it's such a great benefit to be in the classroom that they don't want to miss and they don't feel like they can just make up make it up in the chromebook so just wanted to keep us mindful of that that goal that our learning is engaging and hands-on and collaborative and that we really look at how we can on a day-to-day basis impact our screen time at school let's see let me give leon and dan and rick an opportunity if you have anything you'd like to share yeah thank you i always like going the times i've been looking at an sba conference always like going always like uh collaborating with each of you there so i'm doing our time there together a couple of sessions i went to i really liked one on legal

046and board meetings and i you know it's nice to go to these because you understand sometimes we face here in locally or in the state or not just us it's nationally and i've listened to other board members i feel like our board meetings are really really well run certainly respect the our patrons attend and contribute and are very respectful as well so i command our board for the way they run their meetings as i've heard with some others sometimes problematic in other parts of the country also kind of a session on legal some of the same against some of the same issues we're facing uh teacher burnout special ed the whole gamut of issues out there so it's nice to know that we're not alone i think the last thing i don't know about you

047guys but i really enjoyed the last speaker it would have been monday yesterday the homeless to harvard story was was just amazing uh and how many so many people helped her little things to get to where she is i was just so inspired by that so my wife i finally there's finally a hallmark that would be we're going to watch together so i i just thought that was it was just so outstanding um before the nsba starts they have uh the cosa which is kind of a sub group of nsba it's the council of school attorneys um it's always really well done very informative um one of the nice things is right before they start they have some smaller groups and one is the in-house council uh group and we're talking about issues that they

048were facing um one was uh library books um and so we're able to uh add to that discussion um because it's obviously pertinent to our our district and state um as our our keynote uh speaker it was the assistant director of the department of education who's over civil rights um i was very excited that she would be speaking however because the bind administration has been looking at the title ix regulations that were changed under the trump administration and there's been lots of feedback about some of those changes and problems that they caused and my frustration has always been is they do not differentiate in those between higher education and k-12 education and it's a world of difference and we we don't have you know on-campus housing we don't have fraternities sororities you know alcohol all

049these other challenges that higher education faces so to treat us the same just seems absurd to me but under the trump administration what was kind of assumed became express in the regs that we are not going to differentiate so i was kind of excited to see if they were going to finally acknowledge that it is kind of apples and oranges but she was very political in giving kind of twenty thousand thirty thousand foot uh you know political uh platitudes without getting any specifics supposedly those were supposed to drop uh last month in april they said uh we still haven't seen them there we're now midway through may so when we may see them as anybody's guess you know they're supposed to be already uh have gone into effect um but still tbd so we're still

050waiting to see um and see what changes uh that will be made to title nine last time you know we had to radically change how we do title ix and training um so we'll we'll see if that requires kind of the same uh all hands on deck once those actually go into effect thank you sorry chlorine i didn't see that you had oh you're actually then i was just actually sitting here kind of um listening but no i just wrote um i wrote myself a note i did the coaching endorsement i started the digital educational endorsement i did letters all eight units and i went to literacy conference i went to the tech conference and i went to the utah board conference and at this moment in life i cannot remember one thing that i

051learned so many of them but like i'm sitting there even like scrolling through all the people who talk to us and and um anyway i'm just i'm sorry i i did a lot but i don't remember anything at this moment so we'll move on can i ask one question on that what do you feel like your biggest takeaways from letters for i hated one through four units i didn't feel like we are um i don't feel like we're speech therapists and that teachers shouldn't be speech therapists although they're saying and promoting the fact that we need to know how students say the sounds and how they make the sounds so we can help them with the sounds so i just didn't feel like unless we want every elementary teacher to be a speech therapist that's

052really pretty difficult especially when you have 32 kids in your class but units four through six i mean five through eight were really i had to put them into work the minute that i read them and so they they were about the writing and the spelling and the um and the comprehension and they gave us really great hands-on hands one-on-one ideas for those students and also the lady who's doing the presenting now is a much greater presenter when you do the all-day conference with them over zoom she's really really has a lot of great background knowledge and um has done um letters she started letters i think she said six to eight years ago in the universities and so um that's been helpful so um i just want to encourage teachers to keep trying because

053five through eight is really really meaningful and helpful thanks for the question thank you rick did you have anything yeah thank you president uh first i just uh want to thank the board uh for attending and participating and i thought uh it was great to see such a strong utah contingency and that great job by usba and amber and the leadership team to have that many uh utah board members there you know at the table especially at a national level i thought was really terrific so shout out to all of our board members in utah for participating i i'll end with just reemphasize what everybody said great breakout sessions probably one of my favorite uh toward the end was the two gentlemen that grew up in mr rogers neighborhood and um you know kind of

054going back to this to our strategic vision and human-centered supports and you know talking about uh you know sharing mr rogers message um and philosophy and and really confirming that that's really how he was in real life i thought was pretty neat but the part that struck me the most was um mr rogers uh practice of asking people to take a moment of silence to remember uh someone in your life that has loved you to the place where you're at and and to take that minute to just think about that and i think that's something that we need now more than ever uh in this time that we live in and i thought that was a pretty kind of a cool poignant moment in the conference for us all and i i that was my

055takeaway is to you know just stop and think about those that have really helped us because none of us do it alone nobody nobody is in this world by themselves or achieves anything without others and so i was very impacted by that uh part of the conference but thank you all for being there it was amazing as always thank you um you know in light of what rick said about the great utah agency um i don't know if anybody else was but i was impressed at the end of the meeting to see christy sweat conducting the meeting from the salt lake city school district and that she is moving through the leadership process of the nsba and in a few years an sba president will be from our state and you know all i can

056say is congratulations to christy she is such a great person thank you for reminding me that it is pretty exciting i think it's only the second time ever someone from utah has been in leadership like that so that's great so um i in just a couple minutes that we have left i learned so much from this conference and many of you have already kind of covered some of those key things but i'll try and go through this quickly i attended two sessions that were about kind of board self-evaluations and i know that's something that we've talked about doing um off and on and and i'd really like to kind of pursue that idea a little bit they they gave some really good um hints and helps about how how to do that even shared their

057their self-evaluation tool and i know usba has one as well um if you need somebody to support you on that to get it on the agenda i'll do that well i've seen had snot and i know we've all kind of at different times talked about it so so if you'd like maybe we could spend some time at the round table discussing a process of what we think would work for that um but in that one i i wanted there was something that they shared that really stood out to me and that is a board is a group of people with good ideas a governing mindset is less about being the one with the good idea and more about being willing to support the good idea and i thought that was a good description of board

058work and i i and then also another quote leaders influence the group but they also learn from it joint learning is what happens in effective change processes and i i appreciate this discussion because it just shows how all of us are seeking to learn as well as seeking working on good ideas another class that i went to is called insight into career immersion and mentoring by incubating innovation i mean that's a mouthful but there it's a smaller district um 3 000 students in in pewaukee wisconsin which is outside of milwaukee i'm sure there's history to those names somehow but they didn't go into that but but this it's a smaller district but they started this program for all students and it wasn't just it's more than at cte programs yes that was part of it

059but but in the last six years the program has grown from one course strand to nine and from 13 business partners to 61 wow and from 27 mentors so kind of that one-on-one mentor idea the students in the program to 160 plus mentors and all students in their program as they exit the program will receive a marketable certification and um and they have they also have a scaffolded portrait of a graduate each of the early elementary later elementary middle and high school levels and then um but they talked about a phrase that i hadn't heard um really maybe i've heard it but it sunk in a little bit more about student agency it's at the center of a future ready student and i thought you know that's something that i think would be worth kind

060of contemplating and discussing what what does that mean and what would that look like and then the other thing is every school has a maker space so they just are really um supporting and encouraging these innovative type things another one about self-evaluation on boards about um oh and kind of the same old stuff at which we can talk about later but this is another thing to think about finish this sentence our board is famous for so we'll be thinking about that and yeah the lessons from mr rogers neighborhood that was just so wonderful and um and i liked how they pointed out that mr rogers knew that there was a science to learning and that it's important to nurture curiosity and protect creativity i loved those phrases and that communication best the best communication is

061deep listening and loving speech and then they quoted him saying life is made up of striving much more than achieving and i think if that's something that you know you talk about kind of personal models that anyway that's one that kind of resonated with me and in a different class i learned a whole new phrase think you said to golgi so there's pedagogy which is the teacher giving instruction and huda goji is along the lines of self-determined learning and again student agency type things and and i and i thought that's something maybe worth exploring um the school district of 36 000 students in colorado they talked about collaborating with the community and within the district and with staff and the board and all of this and one of the things that stood out to me

062is they organized several years ago and it's still going in as popular as ever what they call a five-star leadership academy and they can have up to 60 parents that are part of the academy the parents apply and are accepted each year and they attend monthly meetings to learn about the district about education and about public process i know we have our we had our one time our first of hopefully many more to come canyoneering academy so you know i just feel like there's some real value in providing those experiences for the parents in our district let's see [Music] and then um just a little bit of additional thought on the the breakout session from palo alto unified um yeah as mont mentioned they ranked like number one in california in all of the all

063of the accountability type things but when they drilled down they were in the bottom five on those categories i mean it was it was significant and i was impressed that um that they wanted to find meaningful areas of improvement that they could work on and that they then focus that and um and they mentioned the overall data often masks what the real needs are and i feel like our i like the way our school community councils when they dive into data i think they have that mindset that to not just look at the mask but drill down a little bit and um and then the other takeaway from that one was for their graduates they have they started a couple of years ago what they call the seal of civic engagement so it's kind of

064like the seal of biliteracy only it's the seal of civic engagement they didn't go into details exactly what you had to do to earn that but i thought it was an interesting concept so anyway those are my takeaways so any other questions or anyone have anything to ask well i just want to thank you all for the time and effort that you spend to be continually learning it's really great so that will conclude that item next item in our study session is updates for elective classes at draper park middle school for the 22-23 year and i believe cindy hansen is excused this evening and dr robert dowdell will be presenting her dead so last tuesday i had the opportunity to be a substitute speaker for dr robbins at the retirement banquet for something thursday thursday

065about 20 years ago it was thursday and today i'm a substitute presenter i i hope i didn't bungle the last one too bad sorry rick i did do kind of an impression of you of sorts you tried you tried to make this thing really good i'm sad i missed that i was kind of filling in a funk and i needed to do something to get the juices going so i broke out of the mold yeah 280 and 6'5 you're not like back in high school i knew where he was going as soon as he said blonde i was like i know what he is well and i'm a poor substitute for uh cindy if you remember saturday night live from years ago she's a much better kick and lunger than i will be you know

066that's good tiny hand woman she's she'd rather be here than what she's dealing with tonight she's home rather down there so the presentation today is about trevor park middle school and updates on the elective options hopefully for next year and the overview of this presentation she put together was to provide the overview of the elected choices from draper park middle school teachers in other words they've asked the teachers what they might be willing to do secondly to provide an overview of additional confidence per view beyond earth's bullet and then to provide an overview of logistics so when asking the teachers what they might be willing to do i think the first thing we have to note is that they're a little bit hesitant to commit until they know the bell schedule because we're talking about

067potential before school options and after school options and family considerations do come into play when they when they think about that the robotics teacher and i don't know these people well so i don't know if she's he's so i'm trying to avoid those the robotics teacher said that after school would work for robotics program the manufacturing and tech teacher said after school the codeine teacher said maybe in other words interested in doing it but let's find out what the time schedule is before i commit same thing with the facts teacher and in facts if you remember in middle school it's kind of a blended class um where they do cooking in one semester and they do sewing in another along with other activities so those kinds of classes would be considered pe uh possible uh

068that would be a let me see it was a team sports and a conditioning type of course so that person is thinking of i have a question for you so in these electives that are supposed to be happening before school or after school why can we not have some of the core classes before school and after school so the answer is yes so it's going to be a similar kind of question to which core teachers can and are willing to do it but in that case it could take on a couple of different looks one would be staggering what the teacher did in other words teaches zero through five they're on six period right zero through five or one through seven or do an extended seventh grade authorization where they teach the whole day and

069one on either end so it could do that and what that might do would be allow students to take core classes on either end and then have more electives during the middle of the day so the answer is yes this is like the solution to the problem in my brain maybe yeah and so i just need to go through some more research after some other decisions are made in the performing arts world the music teacher first choice would be to focus on the second and third quarters for the musical if that didn't work didn't carry then teach choir stage tech or guitar depending on what the interest is for the students there the instrumental music teacher would be willing to expand the two mornings a week to four days a week and have two separate

070jazz fans if that would help uh or the instrumental music teacher would also um i think that's a blend there yeah so there was some other courses in there that were is it about guitar yeah why is it on the second quarter oh there it is uh okay in guitar i just didn't finish reading that sorry so uh this the last bullet there instrumental music teacher currently has voluntarily voluntary after school band class for students who want and perhaps could formalize that into a course additional options so if the draper park middle school teachers declined or couldn't teach then another possibility would be to extend the offer to other teachers in the nearby schools that would have the endorsements to do so to maybe do some offerings as well or we could go a different

071instead of courses go to a different type of solution or part of the blend with enrichment extensions and uh the first second bullet talks about being held two or three times a week the next bullet two to three weeks long all kinds of variations you could do with the enrichment extensions uh the next bullet talks about the pay for teachers um it could be a stipend if you're doing enrichment extensions and before when we're talking about classes it could be seventh period authorizations or staggering their courses and then another type of track that could get into this blend would be some courses that are online through canyons online or even through arizona state university they do have some offerings for middle school that could be considered um and they could be done potentially synchronously or

072asynchronously depending on what course it is so some elective class parameters that she's put up there to consider if we're offering an elective class it must be from the district course catalog for middle schools secondly you would need to have a minimum of 10 students to carry the class which i will tell you is a lot less than we have required in high school to carry a class to make the wpu or the fte really work we're talking at least 20 but in this case lowering it because i believe this is a one year solution that we're really trying to look at right now and to try to help students out students would earn a grade and be expected to attend and participate like any other class they would sign up for if it's a

073course and substitutes would be a consideration if the teachers for some reason can't be there then we'd have to find subs which i think is going to be timing will matter if it's in zero hour right when you're gonna be really uh substituted off the snow and then transportation issues could come into play potentially we uh then we look at some of the logistics so funding is something that uh when i was speaking with rick earlier could be taken from esther money for this next year um but it potentially could be a substantial that amount of money depending on how many courses carried and then communication plan is going to be very important because the school once the decision is made that we're going to do this and these time schedule bell schedule is solidified

074then they want to really jump on this to try to get the information out to parents and students and staff and try to put this all together so timing matters and communication plan will be important on the registration the details of this process will be determined and completed as soon as possible and it's really based on the variables that i just talked about recruitment i think there's recruitment on two ends here the teaching staff and also students hopefully to get them excited to take it because it is new and it does take them outside of the school day schedules establish classroom locations and and the hours of the class once again we talked about substitutes and transportation so this is where i'm probably a lot less adequate than i'd want to be but i'm very

075happy to answer what i can and rick is here to help me right rick your lifeline you got it okay okay it looks like we have a few questions let's let's do amber green and then molly um so i'm just wondering i mean it's in here kind of but communicating to parents so i know like three or four years ago when we talked when we were talking about schedules for middle school i know butler they did a survey to parents and there weren't enough kids to actually carry any class and i know it's different but i just think it's really important we survey parents first because before we do all this other work because we need to see so that's just my input not really a question just reminding of what happened years ago so

076i need to be next okay so um i have some statements to make and then some questions um actually questions first i guess so is the registration already done for that school yes and so this is having kids register for something before or after that we don't even know what they're going to be registering for at this very minute that is the answer is yes but that should solidify fairly quickly so um is the fte allocation for six periods more or less than the ft allocation for seven periods i'm going somewhere with this just so you know so fte allocation for six periods how many teachers do we have or how many ftes do we have so leon uh may want to help me on this but the allocation for fte is based upon student

077count not based upon periods in a day okay so the ft is going to be the same whether we have six periods or seven periods okay okay then the next question is if you change the school from six periods to seven periods do you lose teachers it shifts the composition of teachers are we shifting the composition of teachers if we're trying to put periods before and after school no no because these are additional authorization for borrowing from faculty from other schools that are nearby if they didn't want to so it's an additional amount of money for additional teachers how much additional amount of money are we looking at giving them instead of making a vote to go to seven periods and giving them the electives so there's several parts to this answer if you are

078staggering the school day with a teacher there's no additional money for that teacher and that is an option which i don't believe has been discussed i think with the teachers but they still would need to know the times before they make a commitment if you're talking about a seventh period authorization and you're talking about one additional cap class worth of their salary added on to their salary and if you have it's going to cost us a lot more money to have them have periods before and after school than it would if we just voted to have a seven period day it will be more money but if we had let's just say we had four courses carry then that's right little over a half of the teacher's salary to carry that program for the year

079thing is like how does that compare to her question what she's asking i mean so four classes carry as a half fte that would be four seventh grade conversations that's only 40 maybe students right because you're saying if 10 students want to do it we're going to let the class carry so that might be only 40. necessarily because a pe class typically carries a large load we don't know what the demand would be on this but it could be large it could be full classes we don't know at this point so there's a lot of whole bunch of don't knows at this point for this whole whole lot of i don't know so is there more i knows if we voted to go seven periods i was trying to figure this out i don't believe

080if you would have any more understanding of what will happen if we staggered than if until we put out the options and ask students if they want to take them okay so rex yeah just to kind of back up on your point clarine um to make it clear to everyone that what we're suggesting is a temporary solution and i know we've had a lot of discussion about schedules and whatnot and there is policy already in place for this and the board does have the autonomy to to make that decision as does the school you know if we were thinking about a schedule change that way and and we can make happen sorry whatever the board's you know prerogative is and decision is but you know we talked about that really being in the fall and

081that being wrapped up in a full study not just on schedules but later start times across the district so um you know these all intertwined together right and when leon addresses the bell schedule later you know i think that would have an impact but but we do have some temporary funds as you know with essers uh at least through next year that we could address this this would be open to any middle school not just draper park if if other schools wanted to pick up some of these their teachers would have right of first refusal on what they could offer um and then uh you know the thinking might be then to open it to adjuncts or other teachers in the district that would want to pick up some of those sections um in addition

082uh after school so it's a very temporary solution feels like a contemporary solution i just kind of feel like it feels like a big battery he's back okay sorry anything else rick not on that point go ahead yeah yeah well i'm just seeing looking at if i have anything else but someone else can ask questions why holly and then amanda okay so i think clarine does bring up some good points i think that you know ideally the reason why we're looking at this is because there's students that just don't have room in their schedule for electives with a six period schedule and especially if they're dual language immersion so one thing that's important to point out is for years draper park has done something called after school club thursday and we have been supplementing teachers

083income to stay and do that and it's like it's like paying for their prep period or we use fte or we use land trust and there's been various levels of engagement so there were times when there weren't as many kids that were signing up but then when they did the survey of interest that really helped because then they were able to offer things that the kids were excited about and so that is one of my questions is they have been doing that for now i don't even know how many years at least four so how would that play into this this would be because some of those my question is let me be a little more clear the after school club thursday is not just providing electives that are only approved in our district in

084our course catalog and so by offering some of these we talked about if it's an elective it has to be the district course catalog but maybe we can do other classes that were enrichment but aren't elective so i'm just wondering how that how that we call it enrichment extension opportunities so we'll they still be allowed to have those enrichment extensive extension opportunities that aren't district course catalytic so great question and i think we have a merging of some terms here okay so if it's a class then it needs to be from the course catalog if it's an enrichment activity it could be whatever it is not feeling a requirement that the student is supposed to take during middle school so at this point when we're looking at offering because that was one of the bullet

085points as an option too it could be an elective class where they actually get a grade or it could be the i'm not going to say that term again enrichment extension can i just comment on that too holly real quick yes just interject remember to bob's point if if we're offering courses we may also be able to offer core courses that's something that we we've looked at as as a possibility but these would be these would be courses that are graded there's attendance because it's filling a course requirement and compliance with state requirements if we did that and some of those could carry obviously there could be transportation issues and other considerations but if we were able to do that potentially also with a staggered start and stop for teachers then that may free up

086students schedules during you know the regular day for other electives but i think to his point really separating out we're talking about regular courses that carry credit grades attendance expectations versus enrichment that may be to your point one or two days a week or more supplementary okay so then the i have other questions but going along with that so then the first course of action would be doing a survey to gauge interest before we engage in interest with with students and families before we recruit teachers from other schools and all of that right so so we would the the courses what's on the screen already what cindy put in the slide deck that was derived from that survey that art survey that we already did so so part of that is coming from that but

087to your point there's there'd be different we could do a survey or different ways to gather interest i think the first thing that would need to happen is the board settle on whatever the schedule is going to be because that will impact whether or not teachers you know are able to balance their lives and their schedules to make that work i think it's important too for everyone to understand is that the draper park teachers in for them would have first right of refusal on courses that they are qualified to teach um and also that they want to then then the second layer would be that if we have a need or a demand for a certain course and we can't fill it for whatever those reasons are then we would put it out to other

088teachers in the district that would fill in as adjuncts so we would start at the school level and then work out okay and my and my question about the survey is gauging their level of interest specifically for the time slot interest in this class for before school or after school so because to clarion's point making sure that we're being very careful with our funds so the other question i had was transportation i saw that on there is possible transportation that that when we're we're looking at trying to provide equitable access and transportation what's that going to look like is that busing before and after it's all the above no question that's a hurdle um you know i think once we get into it and recognize what maybe what the demands are and and what we

089can do and then we we look at that you know i mean i'm i'm familiar with districts that run activity buses it's not obviously not the most efficient way to serve our students but for a year we're talking about a temporary solution you know to this if if this is something that we could look at maybe that's you know a possibility but no question transportation is going to be a hurdle we have to see about the capacity and transportation as well yeah i i'm really grateful we're looking at this i know undoubtedly there is interest in all of these classes i know there's a problem with kids not being able to take electives there so i'm grateful we're looking at this i just when i saw that transportation i just see that as a hurdle

090that's so large especially with our shortage of bus drivers that i my concern is is this going to happen if if there has to be busing you know um so one way to look at that is that since we offer the full program within the school day we do not have to proper busing for those but when you bring up the term equity you're right is it fair to say if you can't get there on your own walking or otherwise and uh is that an opportunity is that fair that's really worth it transportation no yeah yeah i have more later go ahead amanda and then mom well so to that particular point though how does that work with jasmine because jasmine has always been held in the zero period in the middle school and at

091the high school we still required to provide busing for those kids so the jazz band at when i was principal at jordan high was always before school we never offered jazz band bussing so i i guess i'm trying to understand how it relates to some of what we're talking about i mean does that mean if we have a core class in before school or after school that that's going to be what triggers the need for busing if that was the only time the core class was offered i'd see okay that makes sense because i am largely in favor of making sure i mean the first thing i i thought when i looked through this presentation was i'm extremely concerned that none of these solutions appear to really provide a solution to the issue we have

092with the instrumental programs going into porter canyon high school and to make sure that we have options real options for the kids more kids to be able to take those classes particularly the beginning classes i mean when we we're seeing things like jasmine or other things those are the more advanced classes we need something that provides a feeder option for these kids from the like beginner um learning and that's why i think the idea of being able to have a core class or two that are offered after school or before makes sense because it frees up that space during the day somebody i was talking to about this kind of compared it to why kids take online classes in high school some of their online core classes to free up options with but they're electives

093right so we're already seeing that happen in high school so maybe we just utilize that more effectively in the middle school um something that rick said and rick i i don't want to put you on the spot but i was a little concerned when you mentioned the committee discussion in the fall putting together the seven period discussion and the later start time because in my mind those are two separate things and i think that they need to be addressed separately i recognize they both need to be addressed but this issue with with gripper park has been an issue for a while and it is separate in my mind anyway as to what time they start school i don't think i don't want them to be wrapped up into together and then it's like either they

094go together or they don't i think that they are separate questions and i want to make sure that they've received their due religion so i don't want to but rick oh i just my point was is that the some of the teachers at draper park were waiting um to for the decision on the bell schedule before they made a commitment one way or the other with with zero hour but i agree amanda that they unfortunately they do interact with each other but they are two separate issues that need to be addressed separately so yeah i agree and i know that we've talked about as a board the idea and we'll we'll come to this later of having more robust conversations as a district about having later start you know switching like the bell schedules for

095instance of having the elementaries go sooner and middle school that's part of what i'm trying to say i don't want the seven period or whatever change to the actual how many periods draper park middle has to get mixed up with that it's a separate conversation yes yes okay man i'm probably gonna muddle that question a little bit and that's steve um i'm going to start with the elephant in the room okay hypothetically let's assume that the board approves uh moving start time solidifying the bell schedule and we move it to 750 for draper park all of a sudden this tells me you're going to be looking at after school for these periods because we already know that 40 of the students at draper park middle have opted out of first period but we still have

096to be concerned about these these uh middle school kids having to get up so early in the morning and so before obviously won't work because that's what we've been spending a lot of time talking about yeah and then if we tack it on to the back end of the day starting later the kids are going to finish up in school quite a bit later in the day as well um and so i'm just kind of looking at that and thinking where's the balance going to come on that uh which then brings me to it as much as we've argued about this for i don't know how many years on the six versus seven and shortening the periods and we start throwing busing into the mix and we do all this other stuff would we be

097better off to con to condense the periods and have offered to go to seven seven periods and have them still get that extra 20 minutes of time and not have to worry about what happens after school as much and so that's kind of where i'm going with that one um and dr robin i really appreciate you bringing up the uh the point that this would be available at all middle schools i think we have to be very very careful that education opportunities are provided to one of our most affluent areas of the district are also provided to our left affluent we've got legal counsel here and tell me if i'm way off base on that one uh which then if we look at the additional costs that would be for just one middle school and

098multiply that by eight uh we have to and busing and busing well that's part of the overall expenses okay so you know to me and i understand this is kind of what we would call exploratory at the present time looking to see if there is a fit and it might work uh and that there really are a lot more questions than answers at this point of time and kudos or getting your feet in the water and trying to figure out something that will work and trying to find something that will will make it education better for the kids there's a whole lot of work to be done on this yes some serious questions that need to be answered and you know to me the idea that we're sitting here in the beyond the middle of

099may and you're talking about fall have this ready to go boy turbo charged that one bob okay so those are kind of the questions and observations i have steve and then clarine and holly and just a quick reminder of the time so one of the things i think the reason that we brought this around is that we do care what's going on at draper park we're trying to get some kind of resolution draper park is what i call a perfect store they have 1500 students where most of our schools have less than nine we have indian hills but most of them are about nine so they have almost double the students they have what two dual immersion programs there and a dual immersion program throws everything often at school because of the schedules and when

100you have two of them it's even worse then they have a sixth period dual immersion affects your electives to begin with and it makes it really crazy on a sixth period for that um and then it's at 7 30 in the morning and then we have parents now telling us that they they ideally would like 8 30 in the morning but we know as a board for next year without doing an overall the whole busing system and trying to figure out what's going on 8 30 is just we can't do it it's just not feasible and 8 o'clock even causes a lot of problems we'll be talking about that so if we did 750 that might be an option and we'll talk about that but we're going to still have a lot of parents saying

101i'm going to opt out of first period because 20 extra minutes is this really not what i see in this particular program as we take a look for one year is for those individuals that don't have parents that can drive them we offer quality education during the day we offer those those opportunities they come at 50 let's say and they get out at a regular time we also have parents saying my kid can't get out any later because i have sports or i have music or i have all this other stuff yeah it'd be nice if it went 8 30 but i want them out of 2 30. you know uh because i've got some other stuff to do so if we were able to take some of the core classes and move them to

102that others we could almost accommodate those 29 or 30 or 40 percent of the kids which will probably choose to do that that we would have kids come in the bus that would have not only did the bus they would then have that during the day maybe put some of these electives during the day where they could also have some fun classes during the day and move some of the uh the regular classes towards the end so those kids are coming in at 8 30 they would also get that and maybe that would work for a year um and then give us an opportunity to try to figure out because even on the seventh period we're gonna have problems with 1500 kids and two dual immersion programs on trying to figure out how we're going

103to get enough electives more than one or well well seventh period must be one wouldn't it know how i didn't know and besides we already know how albion does it and we know albion does it they don't have any dual inversion they don't deal immersion classes i thought they had one no no they have nothing oh yeah so i mean it's an option the question is can we pull it off at that time no we don't we have six we have the exact so i mean it's it's feasible maybe to do i think we probably have to limit our electives because you've got way too many possibilities i'm concerned about 10 kids to carry a class i mean we don't even do that at a college although you do have a graduate course but in

104a college class you just don't have to carry so i mean you would probably limit your electives because they just want more electives not unlimited electives um so i think it might be feasible getting it together for next semester depends upon a lot on the teachers and what we can pull t-shirts and yes and also with the parents if they would support having that out so um i don't know i think the major thing here is we're trying to figure out something in a time that's really difficult to come up with a solution a lot of people think it's just easy just you guys could do whatever you want or go on it's like a jigsaw puzzle and trying to put the puzzles together is really difficult in this game and holly then so back

105to you told me the registration is already done but then you said something about if you do this then teachers will have to slot in like decide if they're going to do 1 through seven or zero through six or two through whatever so we really don't have a registration done for this school because once we open up this count of worms then teachers are going to choose which ones classes they're going to do and not do and it re-slots the registration am i wrong it will affect the board but i don't think it will affect the majority of what the board's been built so far i don't think there's going to be that many like students already chose their classes well then the kids are going to want to change so really actually okay so

106i kind of just feel like we have all these ingredients and we just thrown them inside this this bowl and now we're going to say hey we're going to try to make a cake out of it and we don't even know if we have a cake because we might only have enough ingredients for bread and i'm just a little frustrated by it but also um 30 minutes isn't there 30 minutes somehow in my back of my brain somewhere that we are having the middle school teachers work over a day more than ever more than the other schools is is that not right somewhere in my head i remember that so what happens if you take the periods and you just take three minutes off a period or something and build that 30 minute extra time

107they're doing into one more period that would be one more elective that kiddos could have without having to do all this jury rigging they go to school the same time they leave the same time and we we have this extra built-in elective period that they could have just using our 30 minutes we have plus a couple of minutes from the other classes it seems a lot simpler than finding other teachers finding other teachers doing more transportation and i really do believe what month said there's other schools who are going to go hey if they can do that we want to do that and this is not equitable and this is about the same thing about time and having kids start school the same time in middle school now we're going to have this other big

108huge explosion i really do believe of people coming and saying you did that for them and i don't want to i don't want to do the bill but it's going to be them and not for any of us you know and so i i don't even necessarily want to go down this road i would rather do nothing and let them be where they are or try to use a 30 minutes we have extra and just put in that extra period that we can put in and allow them to have [Music] i don't know thank you and then amanda and then amber i appreciate your help i i i appreciate your comments clarion and i and i understand and agree with a lot of what you're saying we do have to recognize that we just really

109do have a problem it is what steve said it is the perfect storm and to add to that we have a real problem with sustainability with elective teachers that music department has switched so many times it's it's it's really disheartening and tragic for all those kids that are in those programs my kids aren't in those programs and i i still just feel so sad for all the kids i interact with that are in those programs and their families have been impacted however we slice that however we slice it if if clarion if we if we say we're going to do seven periods next year you know what we've just provided sustainability for our elective teacher they're going to be paid for full time they're not going to be looking for a job elsewhere you know

110the transportation issue my concern with that is if we're going to do the before and after school i'd rather say we're going to treat this like our before orchestra class we're going to treat this like all the kids that participate in athletics and they have to find their own way because i think that's going to be a non-starter with the transportation especially as we're offering that to every middle school in our district so however the solution looks i do definitely believe that we have to do something for this year because we have too many kids and the problem is we just took away friday late start and i do know the current is 29 as of second semester this school year i believe next year all the emails i'm getting that's gonna go up because

111all these parents are telling me friday was was what helped my child get through because they got to catch up on their sleep so i believe it's going to go up even higher just based on my emails so so then we're going to have this problem where we don't have enough enrollment in electives so whether it's seven period or whether it's some modification of what's being proposed i really believe we have to do something for this next year can we do something with the 30 minutes and make it into an experience wouldn't be a class would be some kind of enrichment or i know but can you take a couple of minutes from the other classes and put it on the 30 minutes to make it 30 minutes so the 30 minutes you're referring to

112i believe are the 30 minutes for engagement which are put by policy before and after school so the students can seek out teachers and get the support that they need maybe some contract right that's contracted so by contract they're supposed to be there 30 minutes before the beginning of the school day and 30 minutes oh so i didn't really i'm not talking about that she's not talking about elongating the school day for kids there's some something about i don't remember but there's something about that the middle school teachers all go 30 more minutes in a day than the elementary teachers and the high school teachers and that if they're doing 30 minutes extra in a day at that school then why can't we turn that 30 minutes extra day that you're making the teachers go

11330 extra minutes into another period somehow you're just saying borrow those minutes from all the other classes you're not making the day a half hour longer for kids yes seven periods a seven period day instead of it's seven percent it's 20 to 25. now we borrow a couple of minutes from the other classes to make it into a class to make it have the extra lectures that we're needing so that would be change in my mind you're just moving towards the sixth period to a seventh period seventh period was seven period when when draper park opened which i think is what we're talking about to start that process in the fall to find out what that turns out to be it actually didn't because it was actually called biking time and there was a seventh

114period and the kids had to sign up for it on the computer my son was there and i was on the school community council but it was but it was it's not very different though because that was the amount of minutes they had in class time so it's it's the same as a seven period because the minutes the seat time or head time they had in each core class and those were the same as the seven period let's see where we're at and uh clearly we need more discussion on this but um let's just really i think we have time is the quickly um amanda and then amber and then let's let's wrap it up for a couple things when we're talking about this community i know that there's reticence to add that much more

115money or i'll put that way to draper park metal but i couldn't help but thinking through this whole discussion about what we've done at midfield middle and not addressed a different kind of need draper park has a need right and it is fairly acute especially because of the loss of some of our teachers and some of how these programs are being impacted a question that i've had burning in my mind i just really really want to know is how will fte actually be impacted by a seven-period date i don't feel like i've gotten a clear answer of women so anyway i really want to understand that i i feel like we are getting close to something that appears to be like a seventh seventh period unless i get a really clear understanding of why it's

116better for us not just to go ahead with the seven period instead of doing this kind of patchwork version like it's hard for me to get behind it i i want to understand like where the administration is coming on that let me explain that to you there's the same fte it's shifts in composition okay we need to sit down with you to help you understand that we'll lose teachers we will lose it shifts the competition and that's exactly what yes we will change you have to let more teachers go in order to do that but if you do a seven period you don't yes no you do yes whose core yes it moves towards the electives more fte ends up in electives rather than the it's just complicated that's so is there a way to

117hold those teachers harmless for a year or two yes i mean you're talking about adding teachers to the front and the end so why can't we hold those teachers harmless for two years or a year whatever we want to do and say for this year we are going to go to a seven period hold the teachers harmless and let them stay there even if their classes are smaller and then get the electives on board and then figure out next year how to offer a solution that way that made those teachers and we're not talking about a lot of classes years ago no they could there would be those teachers there yes and there would be less kids in their classrooms and okay because we hold them apart with classrooms if they don't know their classrooms

118we are short on 1500 students but this is a great idea though even though the teachers will always be needed another i mean like even if they had to be absorbed in two different schools but we could hold them harmless for this year a lot of them harmless even if they become like a academic coach or something that costs way more than this other thing did that you would have more teachers you do not have the classrooms you do not have the portables to make that happen right so where will they teach they have a housing issue if you hold harmless and change the composition why do we not have the same problem when you turn it into us because it's an addition after school it's before or after but still there could be opportunities

119though because if they were like um you know co-teaching or mentor teaching or you know there's other things and we could use the s or funds that way so maybe they don't have their own classroom but they if you want all hell to break loose you could bring crescent view middle back online move the boundaries so that's what hollywood hey i think yeah i promised amber she had a comment my question was what yours was so that already got answered i mean i i don't know i can maybe be talked into this but i just feel like it's really complicated right and we're not having the time to study it and the last time we had a vote between the sixth and eighth period day it was 68 appearance at draper park wanted to stay

120on a sixth grade date i'm just saying like i think that changed now but a seven period is different i recognize that but i just don't see how we can do it for next year i i think and just i think that it's it's more simple to add to a seven period date than to do this proposition the other question is how are you going to do seven periods okay so we can't do it now you're telling us even though if we say to you we're going to go seven periods you're saying we really can't do that how are you going to go to seven periods next year because they'll have time to defend they're already hiring teachers they've already done the board they've already but if she does if the holding teacher is harmless

121he's trying to talk to yeah sorry i i'm trying to wrap this up and trying to honor the discussion that the board is having but also honor the work that the administration would need to do and i feel like this has kind of opened up a much bigger conversation than what anyone at this point is prepared to bring around to a resolution so board i i suggest that if if we're seriously wanting to move in this direction we may need to consider scheduling up a special meeting in the next could we not just bring it back to another meeting so our next particular scheduled meeting is the 7th of june which is round table we could certainly add it to that discussion um that then you know we're also talking a time crunch here yeah

122and i know i mean i think that's graduations and end of school year activities and things like that but i just feel like to do in fairness to the administration and fairness to the community who isn't aware of this that we i think we need to bring it back to another meeting and and give um the administration some opportunity to really let us see what that would look like you know what other hurdles because right now they're kind of going off the top of their heads um you know they're hurdles you know and so um that's just my recommendation um so we a thought we we did have cindy come and we have had discussions study session discussions about the schedule um so i do feel we have had a lot of ample time for

123that i understand we we probably need to have possibly one other discussion about it but we certainly have had this exact topic in study session multiple times this year so as far as as far as the community awareness i think community is very important and so yeah anyway i i that's just my recommendations that we look at bringing it back and whether it's scheduling another meeting or seventh stage just a quick quote if they bring it back the administration needs to let us know is it even feasible to do a seven schedule period during that time what or what obstacles or hurdles would need because because there's all kinds of space and stuff we need to know about so i will tell you right now that the timing is critical because when these counselors leave

124shortly you will not be able to build a board and this board you're talking about collapsing and blowing up right now rather than just a few add-ons and almost you you get one to five or you get zero to six or whatever so it needs to be sooner than later or not at all because there's just no way to manage it all but i think that right now they're just saying it's an add-on right they're gonna purchase extra that's what this presentation is about is an add-on vacant room for very select things not a school-wide but there's still all these complications with funding and transportation and all those other questions that we still have not answered yeah so i think if if you're going to do anything it needs to be sooner than later because

125i i just don't and a concern i have to be perfectly honest too is the amount of expense for how many kids will take advantage of it before or after school whereas if we go to seven period i know we're going to be benefiting benefiting a hundred percent of the student and if you're doing a period after a period of seven periods still i'm so that's right don't play in a seven period game that's right so we're going to play the seven series games and he's a little different but they don't have the classroom problems all right we all have no guarantee you'd want to look at scheduling another meeting then sure yes we can't we probably can't do next week at all considering graduations are going on there's graduation's on next tuesday tuesday evening

126next week it's at 6 30. all right 196.4 you have to leave it the way it is because there's no time to do anything we cannot change the schedule i i think i don't mean what clarion is saying though is through the eyes of a teacher is very relevant and she's saying the teachers are going to be drastically affected they're just volunteering if they want to teach an extra class that's all it is hey i'm sorry i'm very frustrated well i don't think it is more than that because they already said they're slipping up they're sliding it zero to six or one seven so it's gonna change what time they get to school after we decide what we're doing today we obviously need another meeting i think we need another meeting please let's look at

127our calendars and see what some options would be i'm out of town that night when is it you're suggesting the afternoon of the 24th at four o'clock it's okay you can relate to under your undying work for whatever i'm saying that's fine i'm just wondering if that's an option i'm just throwing out some options i am seriously out of town before the 24th what about the 24th at four o'clock 24. that was mentioned i just have to talk at diamond roads graduation at 6 30. it's it's located where where's i will ask my principal if he'll let me go at 3 30 and try to make up my time for him i will miss you six o'clock i know if i swim at six and i don't give up my swim time he will not

128give up his exercise time i think we need to make a resolution on this within an hour and a half it's administration can get us information ahead of time so we're better prepared threesome period what are we asking for them we need both yeah sorry hey i just um the presentation that cindy did i can't remember which but we out she outlined all of the schedules so that that information we could bring that back to the table or have that out to you early again just for a review of what that might look like yeah i think the additional information would be to make a shift at this point how would it affect teachers that are already hired at that school and um can we hold them harmless yes that idea that chlorine said about

129holding harmless and then space and then the space supplement space would be um you know actual physical classroom space is another question or how it would look to yeah so another option um amanda just brought up would be really to offer a few core classes at the zero hour whether it's before or after school and and what that looks like or um for kind of an interim one if we feel like making entire shift and this short notice is not as feasible as maybe it might appear so and then identifying any other obstacles or barriers as you kind of through and then i guess yeah the transportation question as well and i think with the seven period schedule if we're holding the teachers harmless just brainstorming ideas for them because we know that we don't

130have classrooms but whether they become an academic coach or mentor teacher or co-teach but those different ideas so just a couple of things too if if the board were to choose not to go with a full on seven period day my recommendation would be what we brought forward we would move forward with an approach or an attempt to offer both elective and potentially core classes in zero hour just like we're saying that that would be that would be our plan going forward if the board chose other chose not to go up to 7 30 a day we would go with what we've outlined tonight i know there's still some questions there but that would be my recommendation but certainly in that meeting if you chose to go to a full seventh period schedule then we

131could we can pull that together too and the pros and cons but i think that's already in our kind of already yeah we've done that a little bit i i really feel like i really feel like right now we need to know what the more immediate barriers and concerns and costs yes are not the long term yeah yeah you're right yes yes right that's not the long term but the more immediate terms yes thank you um did you have one that was my question so joe are we set then for 3 30 on the 24th yes okay and um i will work with um rick and cindy to get that noticed up and we'll look at the three 30 if you're set for five yes on the other end of it yes i have a

132hard step yeah maybe three to five set of time and then um okay any other things we need the administration okay all right thank you that concludes our items for study session we will now convene in the boardroom for a business meeting i'll give the board two and a half minutes good luck on that one yeah all right okay i think we're we're ready to begin i will start by welcoming everyone to the meeting of the canyons board of education today is may uh 2022 we are meeting at the district offices located at 9361 south 300 east in sandy utah um i'd like to recognize and acknowledge that superintendent robbins is joining us remotely um i can you hear us superintendent yes thank you okay thanks and we can hear you so i want to

133express my um our the board's appreciation for your patience as we are late beginning this meeting um and so with that the first order of business is to approve the agenda for tonight's meeting i will ask for a motion on that i'll make a motion and to approve the agenda for tonight may 17th thank you is there a second to this motion i'll second it thank you there's a motion and a second any discussion to the motion see none i'll call for a vote all in favor say aye aye any oppose that motion passes thank you um we will next be led in the pledge of allegiance by rich crest elementary principal sarah allen and then principal allen will share with us some school highlights from ridgecrest will everyone please stand and recite the pledge

134with me i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under one indivisible with liberty and justice for all well it's such a privilege to be here representing ridgecrest tonight so thank you very much for inviting me it takes time to build relationships that sustain a community but rich crest is unique among schools that i've worked on uh in a way that it intentionally makes space for new members of a community i was the new member at the beginning of this year but within 24 hours of the announcement that i would be moving to ridgecrest i received a welcoming message from every staff member it was incredibly overwhelming uh but also really amazing and it communicated that i had been embraced as

135a member of the community before anyone had ever met me and that level of intentional welcome is what sets ridge crest apart ridge crest does more than talk about the importance of community it works every day to practice and live the principles of it principles like valuing people embracing diversity following common goals and remembering to have fun together in fact insiders know that we actually call it the ridge ridge crest tries to make our people feel that they are valued regularly we celebrate our students every day in small ways in the classroom every week through our tiger pride recognition and through our acts of kindness board that hangs in the front hallway of our school through this board we recognize individual student acts of kindness every day because that's one of the traits our community

136values in its people and it's what we want to develop in our children our teacher appreciation week this year was breathtaking our pta transformed our school and the detail invested in this week made clear how much our teachers are valued and supported beyond the walls of our school and our ridgecrest teachers are definitely worth the effort i am privileged to work with a strong resilient group of individuals we're all very aware of how difficult the past two years have been uh but the ridgecrest faculty has not been broken by it we we may pause and lick our wounds now and then uh but when the next challenge comes this staff stands up and says yes we can do that and then they actually go and do it uh ridge crest is more diverse than many

137people seem usually realize and we embrace that our chinese dual language program is very strong and it helps to highlight that we do not all come from the same place or have the same history and we do not see the world through the same lens and we're okay with that ridgecrest also has a growing percentage of multilingual lingual students and families and we have experienced an increase in hardship for many of our families however with the help of the canyons education foundation this year we received a donation of weekend food bags to meet that need and the donation came from an extended member of our community ridgecrest works to create common goals with the larger community and then works to achieve them the most obvious of these is the goal to provide the best education

138we can for our students to this end our scc works together we do ask the hard questions but we come to consensus and i'm incredibly grateful to those individuals but the most visible actions toward our common goals during this past school year have been in the way parents and community members have assisted us through the substitute shortage we have a list of dedicated emergency substitutes who were really like extended faculty for us our classrooms were covered almost every time we needed it our community knows that we need caring adults in the classroom to meet the basic educational needs of our children so when asked they came every time ridgecrest takes care of ridgecrest the past year has been challenging to say the least but education has never been easy this is why the community matters

139robert f kennedy said it's not more bigness that should be our goal we must attempt rather to bring people back to the warmth of community to the worth of individual effort and responsibility and of individuals working together as a community to better their lives and their children's future and it sounds to me like he was describing ridgecrest thanks so much for your time thank you we appreciate all that you and the team there at ridgecrest do for the students and for that community so we'll always we'll call it the ridge yeah will you please ex extend our appreciation to them thank you okay next we will hear from um jeff haney and kirsten stewart from the communications department with some recognitions for us thank you president tingey we appreciate the time that the board grants

140us to recognize the achievements of students faculty and staff in the canyons district now tonight for our recognitions we're celebrating the achievements of arts educators and also some of the very best scholars in the country that are found here in canyons district schools now those who are mentioned tonight will receive a letter of commendation from the board and the superintendent now our first honorees tonight are winners up a very an incredibly prestigious award for arts education now if it's not apparent from the musicals and the plays and the orchestras the bands the choirs paintings sculptures photography shows arts education is thriving in the canyon school district high quality arts instruction is brought to life by amazing teachers and three canyons teachers were honored on may 5th with the prestigious sorensen legacy awards for excellence in

141arts education you'll see the photos of marie smith who teaches at crescent and oakdale elementary schools melinda van der graaff from willow springs and brian cox at indian hills middle school they were presented with these awards and these accolades at a banquet that was held by the utah state board of education the awards recognize distinguished educators who embrace the arts with excellence in their practice at utah's public schools so congratulations to ms smith ms van de graaff and mr cox for their work in arts education and in canyons district schools our next honorees are students from hillcrest and corner canyon high schools who have received one of the most prestigious academic scholarships in the country you can see here the names of the four canyon students who are national merit scholars the list of winners

142was released this week in the huskies and the chargers are on the list the canyon students who are in the national merit scholarship this year are ryan chen from hillcrest creed gardner from corner canyon allison ohler from corner canyon and danju zhou lou from hillcrest now the 2500 national merit scholar degree designees were chosen from a pool of more than 15 000 finalists in this scholarship cycle now we also have they went through the process to be national merit scholars and this process is really quite arduous now they are judged on their by a college admissions board and high school counselors they evaluate each student's academic record scores from college entrance exams leadership in school and community activities an essay written by the finalist and a recommendation written by a school official this year canyon's

143district had 13 semi-finalists from the national merit scholarship uh scholar scholarship program and we have four continuing our streak of having national merit scholars from canyons district high schools now the next honoree is somebody that we have already mentioned a few times including tonight congratulations to john don joo we mentioned her as a national merit scholar she is one of 161 students across the country to be named a u.s presidential scholar one of four students in utah to be chosen as a part of the 58th school class of u.s presidential scholars now the news was unveiled by u.s secretary of education miguel cardona and the title recognizes high school seniors for their accomplishments in academics the arts and career and technical education fields the white house commission on presidential scholars selects these scholars each year

144the candidates are evaluated on their academic record as well as the essays they've submitted and a commitment to community service and leadership now each scholar who is a us presidential scholar is able to name an influential teacher and don joo selected for the 2022 u.s presidential scholar program's distinguished teacher list is hillcrest theater joshua long so congratulations to john donju and to mr long for both being being named to the u.s presidential scholar list and the u.s presidential scholar program's distinguished teacher list and our next honorees are no strangers to bikini bottom the under the sea home of spongebob squarepants theater students at alta high school brought spongebob the musical to life in the fall and now the technical crew of that show is being honored for their work at the recent tony awards for

145utah school musical theater which are called the utah high school musical theater awards the technical crew of alta high's spongebob won the award for best technical crew they were the only canyon students to win an award this year although we had several nominations alta's orchestra was nominated for best orchestra an alta student was named for nominated for best cameo and hillcrest's two leads in holiday inn or nominated for acting awards congratulations to the winners from alta high school for best technical crew and to the other canyons district theater students who were nominated in this year's utah high school musical theater awards now a big thanks to all those who came to canyons district appreciation night with real salt lake at rio tinto on saturday teachers of the year from the schools and programs and canyons

146district were welcome on to the field at half time they were cheered by the thousands near sold out crowd at rio tinto stadium the night was a celebration of the end of the school year which is quickly coming to an end now it's hard to believe that the graduation day is just eight days away we are celebrating the class of 2022 this is the first class to go all the way from kindergarten through 12th grade in canyons district schools now way back then we started our kindergarten college ready day and our this year seniors were the very first to receive those little blue wristbands that said that they will be college ready they were the very first to put their painted little hands on that little banner that's on in their kindergarten classroom that says

147i will be college and career ready and we've invited the community throughout the year to send us photographs of their seniors this year and then juxtapose it with what their little kiddos looked like when they were headed to kindergarten and take a look at our facebook twitter and instagram pages for all of those photographs of our seniors so so you can take a look at them as they were kindergartners and see them as they're headed out into the world after 12 years of schooling and tomorrow at oak hall we'll be recreating some of the photos we took at the very first kindergarten college ready day so if you'd like to join us there we'd love to have you also we celebrated the careers of the men and women who retired after hundreds or maybe even

148thousands of collective years i think that mont challenged me to bring out my 10 key and calculate just how many years of service our retirees gave to us and i gave up after about 40 retirees the number was just too high but countless other contributions to the students in the canyon school district the room at the retirees banquet was packed as we celebrated the teachers and the principals the district office personnel bus drivers hall monitors administrative assistants nutrition service workers and you name it we celebrated them all for their careers in working for public education we thank them for all that they have done for canyon's district and we have no doubt that they will enjoy the next adventure in their lives we also this week opened up nominations for the apex awards there are

149eight categories that we take nominations in from the public in the fall we present the apex awards the highest awards presented by the board of education and the administration if you see the website canyonsdistrict.org you'll see more about every one of the categories and there's an online nomination tool we typically receive hundreds of nominations we'd love to receive and even more to celebrate the achievements and accomplishments of the people who work for canyon school district and support kenyan school district president thank you for this time to recognize the achievements of canyon's district can we turn the tide back to you thank you jeff it really is wonderful to hear all those great things and achievements and celebrations that are happening thank you for sharing that with us okay um we have now come to the

150patron comment portion of the meeting while not required by law the board often designates time in meetings to listen to the patrons of the district patron comment time is limited to residents and taxpayers of canyons district students and parents of students and current employees of the district patrons may provide board members with written documents these documents must be submitted to the board secretary cindy over here at the meeting or emailed to the office of public communications by noon of the day following the board meeting time allotted for public comment this evening is will be up to 45 minutes and individuals will be given three minutes those representing groups will be given four minutes comments made during patron comment are part of the public record it is the board's practice to listen and take notes during

151patron comments the board of education does not discuss matters that are not on the meeting's agenda sorry nor engage in public comment on individual students to protect their privacy or employee issues if the patron wants to comment on a district employee's character professional competence or mental or physical help the board requests that these comments be submitted to the board in writing however if the patron determines to verbally comment on those personnel issues the comments need to be civil and refrain from personal attacks insults defamatory or slanderous comments about an individual the board of education would like to make it clear that critical race theory is not part of the curriculum used in canyon's district there are no plans to incorporate it into the curriculum or instruction in kenya's schools the board of education values input

152on all sides of issues to maintain decorum and respect we ask that those in attendance refrain from applause or other types of demonstrations during the public patron comment time as well as throughout the meeting so this evening we have had one patron sign up to address the board um erin seibel and um as erin is coming forward um she will be given three minutes so welcome erin thank you so much um members of the board my name is aaron seibel and i am the draper park middle school ptsa president for the 22-23 school year and although i am representing myself tonight um i appreciate the time you take to listen to public comment and the fact that as a parent i have a voice for my child's education um we love draper park we love

153the teachers we love the principal it is a privilege for my child to go to school there i was worried about middle school because middle school was horrible for me it has not been the case for him except for the fact that he's tired i'm asking you once again to change the time for draper park middle school i realize this is complicated apparently it is not an easy task um but now that we don't have late start fridays it's like another dagger for draper park parents i'm not sure how we can coordinate and get all on the same schedule for early out but we can't change the time for one school um it seems like we're kind of missing the boat there it's disappointing to hear that the board is not willing to make a

154change for just one school aren't we a community aren't we a district can't we give a little bit um so that our amazing junior high kids can have a little more sleep i'm sure that you heard from a lot of parents and teachers this week via email or phone call i appreciate the members of the board who responded back to me personally i just want to share quickly some things i've heard from parents my kids have all done late start it's too early we have to prioritize asleep sleep over an extra elective almost 400 kids do late start at draper park that's a third of the school that's a third of the kids that are willing to forego an elective we're talking about doing electives after school but the whole in my opinion the whole

155point of electives is to break up the school day and to have a fun class in between science and math so doing them after school i don't know um that's not gonna fly with my son i'm just i'm just gonna throw that out there and i do think we are talking about two different subjects as far as draper park start time and seven periods um i'm also hearing from one teacher students fall asleep in her first period class what a waste for the teacher and the student um why do i have to send my 11 year old out in the dark in the morning what's the difference between sending my 11 year old out in the dark versus an elementary school student coming home in the dark i understand this is complicated and we've been

156asking for change for years we don't want to wait for another transfer session study to be done i know the elementary schools don't want to change spots they have the sweet spot as i call it why would they want to change if you asked me if i would want to change from that time i wouldn't but i think as a district as a community we have to give a little bit um to help our middle school friends so i just asked you to do the right thing this year for draper park middle school thank you thank you okay um that concludes the patron comments portion of the meeting the next item is consent agenda and i will ask for a motion for the consent agenda and in making that motion please read each of the

157items listed okay i'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda which includes item a approval of minutes for may 3rd item b approval of higher and termination reports item c approval of purchasing bids item d approval of student overnight travel item e approval of april financial reports item f acceptance of comprehensive guidance report and item g approval of administrative appointments thank you is there a second to the motion i'll second that okay thank you we have a motion and a second any discussion to this motion scene none i'll call for a vote all in favor please say aye aye any opposed that motion passes thank you okay next on the agenda is um approval of sorry item 8a approval of 2022-23 canyons education support professionals association negotiated agreed agreement this is action requested and

158i will turn time over to mr leon wilcox business administrator thank you president members of the board last meeting two weeks ago may 3rd we approved the agreement for the cea our teachers and our administrators this week we're coming to you to approve the agreement for next year for our education support professionals the agreement that we'll ask you to approve is now live on board docs just want to uh note the members who were at the negotiating table that was brandon wolf he is our energy specialist and the president of the esp association andy marcus our draper park assistant facility manager he's the vice president amanda hill our transportation router and brett marcus our facilities uh custodial specialist from the district side it was uh everett perry our human resource administrator esp dan harper from

159the legal counsel charlie edwards our director of external affairs and myself the following items we've agreed on and in your approval we've agreed to fund increment steps for all eligible employees uh the cost of this is about one point just under 1.3 million dollars or about two percent from this year's base salary we've also granted a 4.25 percent cost of living adjustment cola to step one of each lane and then you can see on the agreement there how those steps go down from 1 through 10 going down the salary schedule so essentially a 4.25 colon for those who are on the top step this year meaning they would not get a step we will grant a 500 one-time bonus uh prorated on their fte status as of uh as of october 1st so they have

160to actually be here on october 1st to get that and we would pay that out on their november 30th paycheck we've also made some big adjustments to those lanes one two and three of the salary schedule where we are moving down steps so lane one there no one will no longer be on steps one two and three everyone will start on step four those who are in lane one will correspondently shift down so if you're on step one this year you will actually go to step five next year again one step for that for everybody getting a step and then three step adjustment that will go to two steps on lane two and one step on lane three again our base salary would be 14. six cents again trying to keep up with the inflation

161and the market adjustments that are out there that we're confronting we've also agreed to the same agreement with the cea and administrators on insurance a two percent cost of i mean a two percent increase right now on the district side one percent on the employee side you can see the premiums on page five there uh and again we will have to be in august to determine if other adjustments are needed needed same with the other group as insurance costs have really gone up honest the last this last year couple policy that's all the financial uh agreement there overall it was about a five just over five million and about eight and a half percent increase off this year's base so again we feel like uh trying to help out our esp's employees that way a

162couple policy changes vacation will be adjusted for those with uh 10 years to 14 years they'll now get 20 days instead of 18. we would also announce that the french benefit which is often called our sick leave incentive will be reinstated that has been our moratorium the last two years due to cover but that will be reinstated same with the cea coming back and last thing uh the their association is very grateful for the board statement on granting up to six weeks of maternity leave on the policy four to zero so with that those are the main highlights uh just i've been emailing brandon a couple times today he just wanted to he was trying going to try to make it to the meeting something came up and he was not unable to make it

163but he just wanted to express his appreciation to the administration and particularly the board for negotiations and the package that has been received this year and from all of us on the administration side we just want to say big thank you to our esps for all that they've done this year they've been understaffed but they've carried on and done a fantastic job getting us to the end so from our bus drivers our custodians our mini admin assistants or paras or classroom aides everyone everyone i i hate to name names but every category has been so instrumental this year so thank you to each one of them with that answer any questions or comments you may have any questions board comments i'm mrs arnold i just want to also reach out and thank everybody for negotiating

164and talking and communicating and expressing their needs and um even some other wants because um it always brings forward some of the things that we didn't think about that they live in every day doing their everyday jobs and so um it really helps when we go into negotiations to know those things and be able to as a board try to help all those people who are working with us to help the children in our schools so thank you other comments or thoughts mr wrigley i too want to express my appreciation to all of our staff that have come in over the last couple of meetings to inform us and also in writing of their concerns i think we've made very positive steps towards that would we like to make more definitely however i think with

165the limited amount of budget and everything we have we've made a pretty significant increase to this year again to let me see what happens next year we'll see but uh thank you it helps us knowing these things when you come in and tell us thank you any other comments okay i i just want to add my appreciation as well to the to the those that worked on the negotiations but as you mentioned to every employee this last year and before that i mean just that incredible dedication just it never ceases to amaze me how individuals are willing to put their self aside to help serve the schools and the students and and i just appreciate every employee for that um so with that um i will ask for a motion i will make a motion

166to approve the 2023 canyons education support professionals association negotiated agreement as presented by mr leon wilcox thank you is there a second to the motion thank you any discussion to this motion scene none i'll call for a vote all in favor please say i i any opposed that motion passes thank you mr wilcox just and just so you'll not stay on pins and needles on our budget update at the end we'll go over some of these changes here as well so thank you thank you okay next item is item 8b policy and legislative update um policy 600.15 research approval process and surveys policy 500.02 student conduct and disciplinary process policy 600.02 instructional materials and policy 600.06 school library materials selection and review this is a second reading listed possible action i'll turn the time over

167to jeff christensen assistant legal counsel thank you president and members of the board it's it's nice to be here this evening i appreciated uh mr haney's comments earlier about the the kindergartners that will receive the wristbands having graduated when i started this job my youngest son was a first grader and now he's out the door of canyon schools and since i've been working here now i have to have blue light and reading glasses so the policies aren't quite done but uh mr millerberg and mr haney and you know nancy and susan edwards it's been a fun ride so a couple of policy updates for you tonight um the first one is our research approval process and surveys since our first reading we didn't receive any feedback that i'm aware of regarding this policy what we're

168doing in this one is just broadening some of the initial board language to allow for our board conducted surveys that occur as needed and then also for either federal and state mandated surveys that occur either through usbe or through federal statute and then the other piece is that we're adding some provisions in the policy to deal with when we work with institutional review boards and so there's the policies online and there's a red line as well why don't i ask for questions regarding this policy first the other ones we may have other questions on can answer any questions regarding the research approval policy any questions for it on this one we'll spend a few minutes discussing um our student dress code and graduation as well as our dress code policy let me begin just by

169discussing our policy discussion and reference the comments from our patron comments last meeting where we had students addressing the issue of graduation attire so i'll deal with that issue first and then go back to some modifications to our student dress code so as you're all aware one of the issues that we had in our state our legislative session this year was a new bill h house bill 30 dealing with student tribal regalia use amendments what we've done in the policy is allowed this consistent with state statute to allow a student to wear graduation attire consistent with tribal regalia as outlined in the state statute so that's the initial update we made to the policy based on the statutory language then in our review we were asked at the last board meeting to take a look

170at based on comments from board members at the the issue of others wearing other forms of graduation attire at the graduation ceremony in our policy discussion we reviewed our current existing language for this section of the policy and the the red line revisions that we've updated are as follows the first element that is updated in the policy is a reiteration of the graduation ceremony which is under the direction of the board of education first it's not a public forum um for individual speech it's it's a ceremony that is conducted by the board and we have language in there that in order to maintain that dignity of the graduation exercises we require the students to be present to wear the cap and gown as part of that ceremony then in our policy then we address personal

171items and this is where we have placed the hb 30 language which would allow a student to wear personal items and they still must maintain the dignity and decorum of the graduation ceremony and this is where we've placed that tribal language where in addition to the prescribed cap and gown that's where a student could wear consistent with the state statute tribal regalia and that's defined in the policy at the same time based on a discussion and request from our meeting last time we've proposed some language that would allow consistent with the initial language where we allow a student to wear traditional religious or cultural objects for a tribe where a student in addition to the prescribed cap and gown may also wear other traditional objects of religious or cultural significance that include but are not

172limited to in here we've created some additional places for personal items to be worn that don't detract from the dignity and decorum of the graduation occasion what we've listed here is floral lays no more than three in our policy discussion we talked about the issue of safety and also the dignity of the ceremony to allow for floral ways then we talked about hispanic stalls we talked about forms of sashes or other ceremonial flowers and again this is not an all exhaustive list it's some language that allows some items and then as needed a parent or legal guardian could if there was a concern consult with a high school principal regarding the graduation ceremony and then lastly on an annual basis each individual high school would then provide guidelines regarding issues to graduation and dress at

173the venue and that changes subject to the individual location of graduation for instance as i mentioned in our last meeting the university of utah has since allowed lays to be worn but there is a fee for that for cleanup and other issues and then lastly because we have a graduation mantles cords insignias or other metals that are worn for achievement of the school those would also be allowed i can answer questions regarding the proposal for graduation and student dress code questions mrs schill okay i have a couple questions so what about i mean do you feel like our policy would cover um what if someone says their their culture is let's just say football and they want to wear football jersey you know what i'm saying like i mean that's just an example it could

174be really anything but do you feel like our policy covers that is it tight enough or should we add that word ancestral possibly in there in the list of religious ancestral or cultural significance possibly i don't know i'm just wondering what the board thinks and what your opinion is that's one question i have one more after so as drafted it's been drafted to mirror the language from the state statute for tribal regalia using the same language i think we would have the ability to limit what would be worn provided as its traditional object this isn't a sports event i think we could have those discussions that that isn't a cultural or religious symbol not that we don't pay homage at times to our sports teams but that's not the purpose of the graduation ceremony there

175are other events where that could be worn i think it mirrors what we've had in our state statue and you know i think what we're doing is opening it up and i think this opening up for some of the concerns raised in our previous meeting um yeah that we can move forward and see where where we um land let's see how with our graduation ceremony and if it isn't effective you know the board could review it and bring it back for a reversal if that was appropriate that's that's my take on it at this point okay so just to see if i understand correctly your concern was maybe are we opening that up too far and yes okay so but but you're thinking we're there's still latitude for at the school to kind of make

176sure things like i think is we've mirrored it to to mirror the statute for the tribal regalia it does say traditional objects it states religious cultural review i think we have sufficient adjectives there to address the concern plus we also have the dignity and the language for the dignity and decorum of the occasion okay okay i just wanted to clarify that to kind of bring it up um does the board have any other thoughts on this question of ambers before we move on to another question or thought um sorry yeah did you have um okay steve and then amanda and then serene fine it's all to this question right yeah well and with respect to what amber was saying i think part of the problem is the word cultural has a lot of open meanings

177right so i wonder whether or not we should replace that word perhaps with ancestral i don't know if there's a better word culture can mean a lot to a lot of different people and it can mean a lot more than just your ancestral culture that you you come to this world with so i think maybe taking a look at that particular term might be helpful if i say something or we define culture pretty narrowly that's another idea okay let's see steve and then clary yeah um that's sort of the question that i have in regards to that also i've been to several college graduations so i've had two kids graduate um my daughter were a floral lady at byu because her husband gave her a floral way according to our policy that would not be

178accepted because it's not our culture to wear away are we going to be policing individuals it makes it really easy if they're working on aqua color and coral lake to find them in the in the mass of students and that's why they did it mostly um what's our how are we going to deal that just on the oversight i mean it will allow that specifically but it has to be in related to a culture or religious so is the policies as the policy is drafted this whole section dealing with um additional items is under the personal items section where we do have language that indicates that personal items clothing accessories that may draw undue attention shall not be allowed however we have exceptions um and we've i i don't we're not requiring any application for

179this i don't if a student were wearing a lay and we've allowed it by our language i don't think we would be limiting that for for that particular individual we've set up a lay a sash ceremonial flowers i think that would be incomparable so we're not going to have an argument with somebody if it's not their traditional culture to wear a filet that they choose to wear one would probably i mean i think the standard again here is the dignity of the occasion and allow the administrator at the event to address those issues as as appropriate if it's allowed under the language i think we would move forward in their instance i i apologize i think i've lost track i think both this is oaks and mrs arnold this is arnold okay so along that

180same line cultural by definition in here is relating to the ideas customs and social behavior of a society that leaves us pretty wide open for anything and everything that could happen that we may or may not want to have happen um anyway so just just along that piece but i was going to also look up tribal regalia because um and i might get the i'm trying to figure out how to say this so trying to to keep the cultures separated i guess customs um i'm guessing this is related to polynesians and i'm not quite sure what other um groups do tribal regalia but would it not that's what i was going to say would that not also open it up to native americans and what they wanted to do with their tribal regalia also and

181would that not also open it up too and i was trying to think there's one more culture that has tribal type things so in that thinking um because i don't know how many tribal regalias we might could come up with is there a chance that we change the word wordage to the parent or guardian um all parents and guardians who want to have their students wear tribal regalia can request that so we know how many are doing it and what they're doing it for because you know as well as i know it won't be flowers there will be something else around their necks and they'll say it's their tribal regalia i'm just wondering let me just clarify so specifically hb 30 was addressing specifically the issue of native american tribal regalia to be worn and

182so that's been specified and outlined in state statute so they have defined a tribe meaning a tribe and nation or alaskan native village recognized by federal law or state law formally recognizes from the statute so that's been already allowed in our previous meeting there was a request to just explore the possibility of allowing other groups or cultures that may be represented this is a proposal of language that the board could consider the policy committee could take a look at refining culture at a definition to that as as appropriate it models the initial language so my response is we have addressed the native american issue as as outlined in the bill and this opens it um we've had discussions in the policy committee meeting with dr mcgill over high schools and they have been addressing the

183issue of polynesian lays already at the high school dr dowdel and dr mcgill were in favor or at least felt comfortable with the language as as drafted so that's where we're at at this point this is neighbor i understand the concern about how many and how much and how is this stretched but i i worry about having any sort of formal requests given to the principals because the principles have so much to do with the actual graduation ceremony that's a very busy time for them thinking even about trying to make sure that all those that are set to graduate graduate actually do and then um coordinating the ceremony a lot of them are doing them back at their their schools now so i i just am concerned about how that request would go if it

184was going to be a paper trail so i wouldn't be in favor of that i'm wondering if we feel that it's too open if we could change cultural to ancestral significance and then i'm not sure why we have the phrase are not limited to um we've already outlined that we're following state statute with native american tribal regalia and alaskan villager regalia so if we are really delays is an addition to because as defined by that law the polynesian cultural and and lays were not included so we're adding two so why wouldn't we think about considering may include traditional objects of religious or ancestral significance that include and are limited to floralays and then apparent we still are giving ourselves a little bit of leeway a parent or legal guardian has you know a request regarding

185they can always request but i hate to make that that there has to be a written request for a principal to have to keep track of before this ceremony as drafted there isn't a written request contemplated it's just if there is some issue and a parent had a concern they could approach the principal and then as the policy is drafted this section that deals with included but are not limited to um the tribal regalia is in its own section as an exception this is a separate section to to address a few issues allowing latitude for the principle to address others that may arise yes and so the the suggestion is perhaps changing cultural to ancestral and omitting are not limited to and actually are limited too because we're we're already expanding what was first defined

186in the statute is is my suggestion here i can i i'll just put my two bits worth i i'm not sure ancestral is the right word to use um i think that just kind of opens up someone needing to kind of verify for some reason rather than the idea is to allow items that are of significance to be significance to that to that student i'm fine keeping cultural but i'm wondering if we just want to add something in here about um because it says that personal clothing that draw undue attention or detract from the excuse me the dignity and decorum of the occasion shall not be allowed but something to just um reaffirm that part so that the administrators or the principals can have the authority to say wait a minute this is distracting this

187doesn't promote the decorum here just to kind of reiterate that piece um if that would just kind of create a little bit of a backstop and then like you said see see where it goes um i just i know i don't need to remind the board but tomorrow a week from tomorrow's graduation and i think there's probably about 2500 students that might be interested in this conversation so and and a whole bunch of administrators and teachers as well so um other that's just my thoughts okay um sorry mr wrigley and then well i just think and then mrs arnold and then mrs neymar i i like the word cultural significance because as the samoans or the polynesians or all when islanders come in that seems to be something as a culture that they do within

188their own culture ancestral i have a tartan so i guess i could wear my tartan over the top of this because that's ancestral i mean i have of those so i don't know maybe cultural is you can go back and say does that is that part of your cultural celebration to uh versus uh ancestry i've got all kinds of things you could wear from based upon your answers i don't know at this point i think it's as nancy says we just need to probably move forward and see what happens and if we have any major issues come back and change it because we have that option anytime um rather than trying to wordsmith everything let's see what happens when this when we do this forward hey mrs arnold did you have fun and then mrs

189snyder i learned from my um youngest daughter that whenever there's a decision or a question with her teenagers she goes siri please tell me what whatever cultural means so please tell me what you know tribal regalia looks like i'm i'm wondering about our definition but like you said next week it happens so maybe next week we live through it and then come back to it but like it has um burial appeal apparel and you should see it's great picture of people in their burial apparel and that is a cultural regalia or tribal regalia um there's lots of interesting pictures on here that i'm not quite sure we really want to have happen but hopefully people will stick to the sashes and the flowers because we gave them those three and the souls we gave them

190those three choices to try to stick to um and that that they can talk principle other than those three um so it just really opens up a door i didn't know it would open up this is my vow i liked president thingy's suggestion and feel that perhaps the best way to do this would be are limited to and then include the phrasing from the beginning of the policy about that it won't detract from the ceremony so that we are giving ourselves a limitation i think i think amber and amanda and clarine some of our the initial concern when this was first read is because it fills open when we say are not limited to so if we say are limited to um you know and you can repeat the phrase nancy but i think that

191gives us some limitations which that's what we need right we don't want administrators to be feel like they have to police so many more things at this point during graduation so so with that suggestion the line would say in addition to the prescribed cap and gown graduation attire may include traditional objects of religious or cultural significance and then just eliminate the phrase um and just say such as flora laser today well and they're allowed to by law that's not we yeah and that's that's by law so we're just kind of adding a little bit more uh mr millerberg i think you've done a very good job of having it mirror state law which is kind of the object that you set out with the objective of where we're going personally i am vehemently opposed to

192saying limited to instead of not limited to because i think as soon as you limit the uh what they are you are going to have somebody come up with something that's an exception and the policy will bar you from permitting something else to come in and so i am fine with it saying not limited to and i think limiting would limit very much what a principal could do as far as making accommodation so i'm just thank you for that point so i guess my thought was if it says such as and then it lists those examples then there's always if a parent or legal guardian has a request they can consult with a principal so i i think it's not saying limited to or not limited i think if it doesn't say either way that

193both both situations could be covered right so if it said if it said cultural significance such as laura lays that at a if a parent has a request regarding personal item they can consult so we still are providing providing a chance for a parent and and i personally am fine either way at this point i think we need to like said well well we need to let our schools know and any other thoughts on this particular phrasing um mrs arnold is there any principals who have input brian come on benga por favor oh yeah and wendy wendy benga keeper board you're yeah as i'm sitting here listening to this ultimately graduation is a very symbolic thing for our students right and so we gotta think through their lens and their perspective what matters to them

194what's important to them this day has extreme significance to them um having been a high school principal for 10 years in two different schools honestly i had less than a handful of these situations arise and as i you know sat back and parents came to me or kids came to me and said hey can i wear this sash that represents my cultural heritage from this country because i'm a first generation you know high school graduate absolutely not going to let that stand in the way of that student but we're having this conversation and i mean outside lays for our polynesian families in the tribal regalia literally you're talking less than a handful of situations that i would have dealt with as a principal each year again over the 10 years that i served so does

195that help a little bit i don't there's not there's not actually the bigger problem with this is the parent requesting a personal item then that really opens it up to me to say i'm now really trying to decide is this a legitimate thing to allow this student to wear because this is something from their great grandmother and so they want to wear this well of course i'm going to allow that then am i going to allow this piece over here and so then you that is the part of the policy that actually opens it up to a much greater degree but but it is the day for the students i mean it's their celebration and while we want to keep it really respectful i think we also have to recognize that there that there are

196these traditions that are within their families too so we like brian said we it just really wasn't a problem kids will do what you ask them to do they're really great that way so thank thank you for for your thoughts on that um okay mrs schill so i just want to thank the board for this discussion i'm sorry you guys made the meeting longer but i think this was really good just to discuss it and i'm fine with leaving it or changing a little whatever nancy's suggestion or leaving it like mom said i'm fine with either one because i just think we need to decide something and if the problem arises we can change it for next year so thank you everyone okay um just a thought on that just from a few years ago

197in the high schools when um a great amount of effort was made to help establish decorum and respect during our graduation ceremonies and and i think it's helpful to bring the students along to have them committed to maintaining that decorum and the respect and that really is where where the ultimate success of any of this is going to happen is if the students understand and respect and or you know want it to be that way i and and i'm at the risk of just taking a little bit more time there was a day when beach balls were a big part of graduation and and that's schools worked really really hard with their students to help eliminate that type of a distracting activity during the speeches and stuff and they kind of did a compromise for

198the students saying okay we'll let you have beach balls during the reading of the names or something and it came right down to it the kids didn't want that they wanted it to be a respectful and a very dignified experience so i think at least right now i appreciate this discussion but i think we go with what we have here and then just trust we trust our principals and we trust the students that they are going to understand the importance of the event sorry anything else on this one okay the other modification to the dress code is that we have added some clarification regarding student clothing and there was an exhibit and added to address the student dress code standards then the other two policies that are part of this update is the instructional materials

199policy for hb 374 sensitive materials and specifically this legislation requires the district to include parents reflective of the school's community whether in when determining whether or not an instructor instructional material is sensitive hb 374 means an instructional material that a sensitive material is one that is a pornographic or indecent material as that term is defined in section of utah code 7610 1235. as a bit of explanation if you go and to the utah code and click on that statute it subdivides into three separate statutes it's complex and the state attorney general's office has issued a memo regarding these issues and they will have additional training coming forward what we've done in the policy thus far is we've added the statutory definitions that are required for sensitive material and then we've also added a new administrative

200new administrative regulation since it was approved by the board addressing a review process that establishes a committee for review of sensitive materials that would include parents reflective of the school community in selecting those parents we would mirror what we've done in our library policy which would be either members of the pta the school community council or others that are volunteering at the school also in addition in the instructional materials policy because the instructional materials as defined in state statute is broader than just instructional materials that include school assemblies guest lectures and other live presentations there will be an additional committee to review those issues when they arise and those guidelines will be developed and that's our external relations department that's working on those guidelines and then student-led teacher-led and principal-led assemblies will adhere to our

201adopted instructional materials criteria and then the last policy in this update is the school library of material selection and what we've done again in this policy is added the statutory definitions from the sensitive materials in school legislation and then also added sensitive materials to the deselection criteria for library materials a few other minor adjustments were made in our calendaring of reviews to address situations where staff may not be at the school during the summer period we had listed it initially as calendar days but it makes more sense to have school calendar days for those timelines and periods i can answer questions regarding the instructional materials of the library materials policy and the updates as as any questions um mrs arnold so um you know when i read the school conduct and student dress codes before

202i was concerned for principals and for teachers who would have to say to a student you know your dress is pretty we'll just use the word lewd here or vulgar and then how that student comes back to the teacher um about how they feel about how the teacher feels i don't know how to explain this even better um i can so if i'm a female teacher and i say to a guy you know that that's really tight and it's pretty pretty vogue or what you're wearing then um they can say well that's because you have a dirty mind or you're just you know thinking badly as a teacher so my question is and i guess this is like to the administration is is our policy in a good place that teachers can send students down

203if they feel like their clothing is inappropriate with no harm no foul to the teacher or the administrator can call the parent with no harm or foul to the administrator because that girl or that guy might take exception to what they've been told that they need to change their clothes so i think the language we've added here would probably help i'm hoping that that's what that's going to do because i think in the past there's another guy there's no man teacher who's going to say to a girl hey that's way too low and i can see way too much because we all know what will come back of that and so how we helped our teachers and our administrators be able to take care of the clothing situation with enough definition without them themselves kind

204of getting in trouble for saying that i don't know how better to say that let me just respond by addressing what is included on on board docs with the the dress code revision so we've included now some updated language regarding student clothing to remove gender specific language in some unclear terms so the first element is we've tried to make terms more clear than they were previously number one and then two at the request of administration we've proposed a figure that allows the administrator to speak to a graphic rather than having to address issues that may be difficult i do know when speaking with principals they have typically they have a team of administrators that typically is multiple genders are represented so they can have a particular administrator address the issue so i feel having circulated

205this through our administrative teams they feel comfortable with the modifications as proposed okay thank you any other questions okay um thank you jeff for that presentation and for answering our questions um so that is um this is an item that's listed as possible actions so a motion would be in order i'd like to make a motion on that thank you i'd like to make a motion that we approve policy 600.15 research approval process and surveys policy 500.02 student conduct and disciplinary process policy 600.02 instructional materials and policy 600.06 student library material selections and review thank you is there a second to the motion i'll second that thank you any discussion to the motion saying none i'll call for a vote all in favor please say aye any opposed without motion passes thank you thank you

206members of the court thank you jeff next is item 8c discussion of draper park middle school start and dismissal times for 2223. um leon will i'll turn the time over to mr leon wilcox business administrator thank you president uh just going back to the draper park uh start dismissal times just gonna give you some updates and some overviews of the challenges that we face here and so we put this on board docs later in the afternoon you may or may not have had a chance to look at it all but just want to go over a couple of things here on the busting complications i want to emphasize the afternoon routes are our main complicator okay it's not so much the morning we have flexibility in the morning we don't have it in the afternoons

207and the reason being and i think this was brought up maybe this is what chlorine was bringing up in our study session is uh on our bell schedule if you look at that our middle schools are in session basically seven hours there's a couple that are in there six hours 55 minutes bell to bell okay whereas our elementaries from bell to bell are in there are in for six hours and 35 minutes so that's gets to be so you start doing the math that gets to be the complicating factor that 20 25 minutes on the in the afternoon okay when the elementaries and middle school start compressing against each other so if you look and i i've kind of centered out draper park and lo i mean draper l elementary lone peak because they're the

208one main two but uh so as we go through here but if you look at draper parks ends at 2 30 right now in those two elementaries end at 3 20. and also what a couple things we want to go over that by usbu board rule buses have to remain in the parking lot for seven minutes before exiting okay now that that doesn't that makes some sense right because you got to go to your locker get your coat get on the bus and then leave it does we don't want our buses waiting two minutes after the bill and taking off and leaving the kids they have to wait seven minutes before they can leave that's that's a statewide rule and also at the end once the last drop off they have the buses have to

209pull over and find a place to pull them or they cannot pull over their last stop because they're blocking traffic you know so they either go to a church or a supermarket or a place where there's a wide shoulder and pull over and they actually have to walk the bus and make sure there's no students on the bus we have had instances years ago where students got brought back to the sleeping kindergartner first grader was brought back to the transportation yard and wow that's scary right they also have to pick up any leftover items and there was always those because you don't want the next group coming on and taking them and they also have to pick up any trash that that could get there so depending on the driver that's another two to five

210minutes of time in the in the afternoon that adds to the round there uh so i just wanted to go over that complicating factor we'll go ahead a couple more here and and we also want to show you the pickup times for draper park so draper park has 11 regular buses servicing that school every day and then there's two special ed buses so a lot of buses you can see the bus routes and the first pickup time there so a couple all very early no doubt about one 651 a couple 652's and on going on down and then of course they're all pulling in the draper park around that 7 15 7 20 mark first bell rings at 7 25 tardy bill if you will or the start of school is at 7 30. okay

211uh and so of those 11 buses again morning and afternoon four go to lone peak after three go to draper elementary then i didn't put schedule on here but two go to oak hollow one to crescent one wolf springs okay so all 11 have a route after after draper park so again i just focused on draper park and lone peak and the challenges we have so again these again we're focusing on the afternoon because that's our our problem areas so after draper park there are four buses that go to lone peak you can see their final drop off times one's at 2 55 but you can see they're dropping off up on south mountain pedestrian traverse ridge areas one at the adagio apartments that's kind of by harman's so then they all have to get

212the 255 again they have to pull over walk the bus pick up the trash then they have to dart up to lone peak then the last one is actually closest to lone peak but it's its last drop off is 304. and so you also got to remember that's the schedule drop now you can always have extenuating circumstances traffic bad weather road construction things like that that can can change that schedule time by two or three minutes either earlier or often later when it gets later that becomes the problem is is that but that's the scheduled part pickup time then if you look at draper again there's three buses going there uh one buses drops off at 307. it's you know 126th and just 90th west another one about 145th and 5th east you know those

213two are three 0 you know 305 ish range and then have to get to draper elementary by the 320 bale time then there's one it has a little bit more leeway uh you can see where it's dropping off on the east on pioneer road again they got to pull over walk the bus and clean up the trash okay so that that's the the gist of it i didn't put the down below the three other hulk hollow willow springs or crescent but they'd have the same type issue they're the four buses that come out of draper park in the afternoon here's some other information again here's the enrollments they're coming out of our budget book uh you can see those uh draper parks you know it is going down in enrollment is kind of aging out

214there some of the areas and draper elementary and lone peak again two of our biggest bigger elementary schools that should also be noted we do have to look on the belt schedule the next item we do have six elementary schools you can see those six there who have a nine o'clock start time to 3 35 okay these last slides we've shown you again if you want to push draper park back to 750 you know you can see the elementaries have to go back based on the afternoon pickup times if you wanted to go back ten minutes to eight those would have to go back eight thirty minutes again lone peak and draper and then you'd pull in willow springs oak hollow and crescent again because we have four buses servicing those schools jeff went over

215the survey results with you last time okay so i don't want to this will rehash all those but you can see draker park and i just put on the guardian i didn't put on the employee's results just summarized in one sheet here you know we had 53 guardians completed uh you know obviously there's a strong there are some who who agree with the current schedule right and then there's the majority do not and opposite the other time as well and then there's also some there in the middle those would add up to 100 going across there and you can see the three times there uh draper elementary again strongly agree to stay at their preference to stay at their current time there is a chunk there that you know neither disagree or disagree and if

216the second question should be added if you changed would you prefer the 20 minutes or 30 minutes later obviously the 20 minutes far weighs more lone peak more strongly wanting the current schedule and more strongly the 20-minute later start they don't have as many uh you can see draper had nearly 20 percent we're okay with how things are i mean we're okay with changing and uh had more that were just in the middle there the lone peak far more volt far more vocal on the staying the course there uh we won't really spend again crescent you can see we crescent willow and old hollow it was arranged differently because they would only be if they would be affected 10 minutes i don't want to say only but again the preference to stay where they're at

217uh didn't have quite those participation from these back and again roller springs had a higher rate of 46 return but uh you can see crescent was about 29 and i'll call about 40 so with that again it was more of a discussion item so i'll leave it at that uh i will put out one proposal that we have talked about here and i don't see any tomatoes up there so don't pick up any now if you do hit brian i uh we have looked at a couple options again it's the afternoon route okay so one of the things that we talked about is what if and this all depends on the draper park schedule okay what if we looked at the day time there at draper park and looked at moving the start time back

218to 750 okay 20 minutes later now instead of getting out at 250 we're looking at a proposal of getting out at 2 40. so shorten the school day by 10 minutes okay uh doing so would uh we would roughly be in schedule a thousand and eight hours again the 990 hours so we need that you do lose over 10 minutes over 180 days though is 30 hours of construction okay so that's a lot so that needs to be noted however if you did that you would only have to move back draper and lone peak 10 minutes instead of the 20. maybe a little bit of a compromise there maybe not but then you'll have to shorten the periods again i'm i'm using the sixth period day they'd have to be shortened by you know roughly

219a minute and a half or you could go four to go two minutes and one and then two others would be one minute uh the school administration should make that choice not us if we did that and you know the lunches would still be 30 minutes as they are now and whatnot so there is you know something that you could consider for a year if you wanted to maybe try and get something there in the middle again lone peak and draper would still be five minutes start five minutes ahead of six other schools but that is just something that we've been looking at the last couple days and floyd and i sat down with the numbers and make sure we get over that 909 but without questions thank you leon so yeah um discussion um

220mrs oakes and then mrs snyde power this is arnold mr wrigley leon thank you so much for sharing all this information i i requested to bring this back i felt like we just needed a bit more discussion on it as a group and this was a subject that um i asked to bring forward a couple months ago and and so um just to clarify in the last option you shared with us so if we adjust the the time and the ending time for draper park middle and say we went with like the 750 schedule you would go 750 to 240 every day correct except for the fridays except for the fridays yeah how would that now clarify with me how that works with the start time for draper and lone peak that means they would

221go from 905 still no 855 855 so they would maintain they start at eight keep in mind draper elementary bone peak let me go back here to the schedule here and i also have to say rick is on zoom he's looking way too comfortable and i swear sure he should be on a tie i don't care if he's home or not uh you can see the current time there okay that would change 10 minutes both so it'll be 8 55 to 3 8 55 to 3 30. okay so then it would only be a 10 minute difference for them at that point okay that's trying to compromise a little bit right now and i appreciate you looking at that even today that's very very helpful um i i will say from my perspective as a

222member of that community and especially with what i've heard from people um that i i know that with the discussion that we had about early out late start one of the big drivers with that decision of why we chose a universal early out rather or yeah earlier out rather than a late start is in part because of the elementary schools and the needs associated with children that age the safety issue and those questions there i know that that the elementary schools are distressed about the idea of pushing their time but i i also know that we did reach their direction on that i think it would have been significantly more distressing for them to have a late start rather than the early out like what we've aligned yeah late start wouldn't never it would have

223been very very difficult so and meanwhile this community draper park middle they really have been asking for a very long time to adjust the start time um the sec is a group has send us emails and um and i do feel like even if we look at the enrollment numbers alone i mean you combine draper elementary and lone peak together it still doesn't make up as much student body as what we have currently at draper park middle so i personally um especially in light of the fact that the draper park middle students have just lost the only late start day that they had and i have heard from a lot of parents on that about what a loss that is for them that it was something that kind of helped them motivate their kid to

224get through the week um i'm looking at these bus pickup times and when you have a child that's leaving at 6 51 a.m in the morning you have to have them there at 6 45 to make sure they make it on time which if you do the math you could have 11 year olds that are getting up at 6 o'clock in the morning which is a very big shock to the system compared to having you know attended school at 8 45 the year before i just think from a developmental perspective it concerns me and so i personally and strongly in favor of doing a 750 start time i don't want to go to an 8 o'clock start time i think it disrupts too many schools but i do think like especially with what you've just

225mentioned doing 855 that's still earlier than six of our elementary schools are starting in the district and with that said i also want to make sure that we don't um drop the ball on having a further discussion as a district about start times in general as a district i think one of the reasons and we've heard from members of the community on this they don't want um 7 50 start time being a final solution they would really like us to to take a look as a district at start times and sleep and all of those things so i don't want this to necessarily preclude that process or that discussion um but i don't think that the perfect needs to be the enemy of the good here we need to reach the direction of these parents

226since they just lost their late start i mean it's funny i was even discussing this in the phone in the car one day over the phone and my daughter who's at draper park middle when she heard me mention that her late start was going away she nearly she about freaked out so i know i think most of the community is not fully awakened to that yet but if we can reach their direction i think this will help so i'd like um just those are my comments and i'd like to reserve the right to make a motion following the the rest of the discussion okay let's see mrs nybaur and then mr wrigley as all of you know i may have have tired you from discussing how important i believe sleep is for our adolescent children

227you know this has been one of my top priorities since i was sworn in and i've been talking about it in closing comments and every meeting i can in the last nearly two years but i have a question for my fellow board members my concern is that if we make the motion to move to the 750 start time my concern is that we may lose our fervor for doing a overall study to include more efficient bus routes and also get an eight or later start time for our secondary schools which would be most beneficial of draper park middle school currently ops out of first period those children arrive at draper park at and the bell rings at 8 30. and so we already know that 29 of the school that goes at 8 30 7

22850 may not be a large enough change for that for that to change and the idea behind a later bell schedule is also to provide more access for our kids to go to school the full day and to help us retain and attract teachers such as elective teachers because our students are giving up an elective class and so then it makes it difficult for us to attract and retain talented elective teachers because they aren't paid for full-time hours because of not having a large enough enrollment so my question for my fellow board members i absolutely want to give draper park the 750 start time they did just lose the friday late start after a lot of appeals to us in the last several years i know when i first was elected onto the school community

229council it was the year draper park opened which was 2012 and the start time was an issue then and we were with that was something we got emails about all the time done so if we vote for the 750 are my fellow board members committed to looking at moving it again to after eight o'clock after a study i just want to hear what your thoughts are on that if you can educate me so i can make okay um thank you let's see um mr wrigley mrs arnold and then mr millerberg okay so i guess i'll answer that question first on the the late start paper park's not the only one that's requested a late start so i think the whole board needs to address this for all of the district yes and so that's i

230know they're probably the most vocal on it but there's been this very well so i don't see any problem i think we may want to discuss this in our coming outboard round table about some parameters for the administration when they do that study and and put that so i think that's a time to maybe discuss that and move that forward so that's that um there's several things that you know this all thai is really in uh we know i've talked with several parents and they say we would like an 8 30. you've got to do an 8 30. technically without changing all the routes around the whole district that's not feasible at this time is that correct it is if we have them start and go to six o'clock so that's positive we know lone

231peak had 90 of the parents say that we wanted to stay the same uh and uh draper park had over 80 percent basic when you add up the three the ones that say either way um so and i talked with several of the teachers going to eight o'clock there's a couple issues in going to eight o'clock at draper first off summit academy drops off at 8 15 and the congestion is terrible right now in addition to everything else so if we move it too far back we'll even have worse problems my bed parents tell me i'm taking on kids later not because there's a sleep as much as i don't want to fight the traffic the traffic is just crazy uh this also one i've had several parents teachers at draper and other draper uh

232elementary and several talk about the time to get out if it's 3 50 at 8 o'clock it'd be 3 50 in the afternoon um almost they're saying it's almost impossible for them to go to the doctor or take their kids out so the parents will be taking their kids out early for doctor's appointments the teachers if they have to go to the doctor will have to take a whole sick leave day and we can't get substitutes and it's not in quality education the same as the teacher for a substitute to be in there as far as curriculum um so they've had some concern about that so i'm leaning more towards the 750 um but i also like your idea of taking 10 minutes off of draper park so that we have 10 minutes left on

233the the middle school teachers i mean the elementary teachers this elementary teachers are gone crazy this year with curriculum changes and everything else um i could emphasize if i could correct the elementary teachers build the bell so we're going to remain the same it's just 10 minutes later okay we're taking the 10 minutes off the draper park that was just this proposal elementary if i understand the elementary would go 10 better than 20 minutes would be 10 minutes later yeah so we still would go from bell to bell six hours and 35 yeah it's the same amount of time on them entries like that was not maybe i didn't stay clear enough okay we would cut some off the scraper park draper park because they're on the sixth period is already having more hours seat

234time than they would in a seven period so if you take two minutes off there's still more seat time than they would in the seventh period uh and then we'd all rather than have 20 minute delay at the elementary schools we'd only affect two elementary schools and we only have a 10 minute delay so we're cutting that in half sort of a compromise on both elementary if we're moving that direction we're sort of compromising and we're getting the early start um but also if we have a ten minute early and we do go to a zero period or a seventh period whatever after it puts them getting out ten minutes earlier from that class too so yeah if we do i think i think the zero period almost has to be after school i don't

235yeah so but after school they get out ten minutes ten minutes earlier then they would get out ten minutes earlier from the after school program too which is a plus because a lot of parents are telling me i've got recitals i've got music lessons i've got games and everything else and it's a tight squeeze so that gives them 10 minutes so it may be sort of a win-win for all of them i don't know thank thank you mrs arnold mr millerberg and then mrs shiel okay this is going to be just a little bit long and i'm sorry i'll apologize ahead of time however i promise i'll try not to speak the rest of the night so that i'll just utilize my time now so um i actually did a ton of research mind you

236all these papers about this whole thing about sleep and children and teenagers and um came up with and i'm only going to read one of the studies not all the studies but i want you to know all the studies pretty well said the same thing as the one study and that was that um yes the children's clocks do change but parents can help out with it so the first thing they said in this particular one which is child mind institute is that parents have to take a stand teenagers will resist but there's evidence that parental help will with limiting study with limit setting on study and sleep does help the children make a better decision about managing their time and what they're talking about is this time change that the teenagers have right encourage consistency

237it's important for your teen to go to bed as close as possible to the same time every night and get up as close as the same time every morning allowing them their eight to ten hours of sleep but it's also important for him then him or her to stick to the same schedule even with the weekends so speaking of these teenagers sleeping in one day a week actually every one of these studies said don't do it and not even on weekends because it messes up the clock when it messes up the clock then on mondays they have the harder time of getting up it says limit screen time emphasis is unimportant on turning off your electronic devices minimize minimum of one hour before bed plan ahead so that the homework that needs to be done

238on the screen is completed at least an hour before time discourage snacking adolescents are prone to eating and drinking and it means that they're not self-regulating and it wakes them up in the middle of the night when the sugar cooks kicks in um but a bag of chips or cookies at one am or caffeine at any time after dinner will cause problems with sleeping and is actually harmful um boost the clock a low dosage ally wouldn't probably do this but it says a low dosage of melatonin to help them get to sleep easier simplify help the teenagers teenagers need you to help them see and set realistic expectations for how many activities they can actually get involved in that means limiting pressures and to build the ultimate limiting pressures to build the ultimate resume for

239college set a good example model good sleep habits for your teens by making sleep part of the living a healthy style streamline my encourage teenagers to shower pick out their clothes pick up their books and get everything ready before they go to bed and then it says keep the bed keep the bed for only sleeping experts agree that it's easier to fall asleep and stay asleep if you associate your bed with only sleeping that means teenagers should be encouraged to work in another room and that he associates working with and not sleeping with and almost every one of these studies have exactly the same the same things parents should create a calm atmosphere teenagers should have regular sleeping keep them relaxed before they go to bed stick to the schedule avoid long naps um that

240was the other one they said if they have to have a nap they should have a nap in the afternoon for no more than 15 to 20 minutes but not to let them sleep in one day a week because that just starts changing their clock again there were there were many many many studies so i have to kind of way between the middle school kiddos and the elementary school kiddos because there's also elementary school kiddos problems like the later the afternoon we keep them the harder it is for them to learn like what when you get about two o'clock all of a sudden those little elementary kids start losing it and if teachers aren't really really active and the teachers aren't really animated and if they're not engaged in activities they don't learn too much

241of anything after two o'clock whereas i mean like you're going to weigh the two issues right whereas you're telling me well the middle school kids are missing their first period well the elementary kids are missing an hour and a half up to two hours if we keep them until four o'clock of being able to learn and sustain their ability to learn so if i have to wait between having an elementary kid um which we're not doing that right now so i'll skip that part being out on the street at seven o'clock in the morning actually according to this study 6 51 in the dark a kindergartner then um or have an 11 year old yeah rather than have a middle schooler i'll go for the middle school of being out at 6 51 versus that

242kindergartner out there at 6 51. so looking at this i don't mind balancing the communities and that's the other thing i wanted to say so there was some people who did write me about this discussion and i'm gonna get personal here and i'm sorry you can correct me about amanda not being here two weeks ago and i want you to know that she just works her butt off for her community and i'm being serious here she does all the study she does all this reading she goes to all these parent meetings she does everything and anything for her constituents and her people and for people to say things like well you weren't there you should have been there you weren't there there are seven of us we make the decisions we have the discussions it's

243not like we don't know that what draper park wants we get all the emails so i just want you to know that she serves you with every piece of her fiber and so in my mind if i need to do something i look at the whole district as it does everybody else here although we are in an area that we got voted for we also have the burden or the privilege of serving all the students in this district so looking at what we've been presented i don't really have a problem with having draper park have a near or same starting time as all of the other middle schools but i do have a problem with starting them at eight o'clock and having the students um in the elementaries then have to be there almost until

244four o'clock and not getting home until 4 30 and it being dark in the winter time by a five-ish which was one of the things the study said is that the more light the kids get the better they have their clock set the better they sleep the better they aren't tired and so if i have to if i have to um if i'm choosing i'll choose to be fair and be across the board and let draper middle school start at the 7 50 and get out at 2 50 but it's not a win-win in any way shape or form because two elementaries want us to keep at the same time and draper park wants us to change and so we as a board will decide but those are my thoughts about this whole thing thank

245you mr miller bergen and mrs shell holly you ask a very good question if we would be amenable to uh moving it again i have a tendency that i like to fix things once uh we've been listening to this i think 750 is a reasonable compromise to bring draper park middle in line with other middle schools in the district and i don't know that i would be really excited about revisiting this every year ad nauseam into eternity um i think the 750 is a reasonable request as far as the elementary schools are concerned not in draper but elsewhere in the district i have grandkids that attend at an elementary school that starts at night i had the discussion with my daughter tonight or this afternoon before board meeting and said how is the nine o'clock

246start for you and she said i love it i get my middle school kid off i get my high school kid off i've got time with my uh elementary school kid we sit down we have breakfast every day we have nice discussions and that's good i think there's a whole lot of different dynamics that go on district-wide do i have one parent working do i have two parents working do i have one parent in the home and or do i have two parents in the home a whole bunch of different dynamics and there is no one size that fits off and guaranteed whatever decision we make somebody's going to be upset with the decision we make i promise you that'll happen um but i think that uh you know we talked earlier that uh a

247class period right now at draper park middle is 61 minutes you pull your two minutes out of each period and remove that back 10 minutes save the elementary school that 10 minutes and you shuffle and shift and feels like a reasonable compromise and i don't know that anybody's going to get upset with a class period going from 59 or from 61 to only if it's an accounting class then you'd want it to go to maybe 10 minutes because because we started talking credits and i'll tell you within 10 minutes everybody's going to be asleep okay they don't understand it like us deb is by the door credit is by the window you got it made just don't change the final the room for the final exam yeah uh my question is where i really start

248to get concerned on this deal if i take six periods of 59 minutes each that's 354 minutes of instructional time if which has also been on the draper park agenda for years they go to a seven period day that would move you to a 51 minute instructional period i don't know that 51 versus maybe 53 if you didn't move that 10 minutes makes a difference but that's a concern for me because guaranteed the six versus seven period day is not dead that issue will come back so if i were to vote my heart on this one i would go with the 750 start time and i would not be real flexible in the future i would kind of want to stay there and let it roll out the other thing is i really believe that

249if you're making a decision that will impact for a good the most people that's probably not a bad option because i look at a 750 start time if both parents in the home are working and they want to get to work on time and they start at eight that's pushing it pretty tight to you know depending upon where their office is located um i just think it's a fair compromise i would i would favor that and i'm okay with whittling a couple of minutes out of each uh each period thank you mrs shill okay um i am not going to restate what everyone else has said i'll just say that i am in favor of 7 50. i said the same thing last meeting that i'm in favor of changing like i think we've been

250hearing for years but it's too early and i'm not a morning person and i think it's too early as well so i'm in favor of that um i am okay doing the 250 shorter time or 240 i mean sorry 240 just because i think we we need to compromise we need to yeah it's not showing that yeah 240. so five minutes okay great anyway thank you leon for coming up with this additional compromise and um i will answer holly's question that i i'm in favor of us talking at the round table about doing a bus study i mean i think i i just think we owe it to parents we owe it to the district we need to try to get more full-time bus drivers so i i am in favor of that in the

251future i know it's a separate issue but i'm in favor uh thank you mrs nybauer and then mrs arnold thank you mr shell for bringing that up i'm i'm grateful that you are willing to look at that and it sounds like mr wrigley is as well with the with the legislative priority set on february 27 2020 all leas were encouraged to look at secondary start times at eight or later so so far i know it was non-binding but still encouraged i know so far we have school districts like washington county school district and st george park city is changing their secondary start times for this next year we have salt lake city school district logan city school district we have several districts in our state that have looked at this in a comprehensive bus study

252and and made the change clarine brought up some really good points my one of my desires with the comprehensive study would also be able to do what's most developmentally appropriate for children and our elementary school aged children i have teachers writing me saying i would advocate for elementary to start 10 or 15 minutes earlier rather than later so that's another reason why i would be interested in that comprehensive study so that we can get that win-win so that the the children that rise the earliest and are awake and alert the earliest or elementary school if we're going to adjust them 10 to 15 minutes earlier they get home earlier so they're not at home anywhere near dark and then allow for the eight or later start time for middle and high schools which is also

253developmentally appropriate so thank you thank you mrs arnold so our um a comprehensive bus study is that a boat for tonight or is that just an item an item that we discussed later on because we keep bringing it back and um um i don't i don't understand exactly why we keep bringing it back but um as mr wrigley said he wants it in as michelle says she wants it i don't want it so i think this is a discussion for another time another place sinks yeah and just just to clarify it's it's been talked about as an item to bring up and discuss further through the round table discussion um this is my bar and on leon wilcox's slides last presentation it was in there that a comprehensive study would also have the side benefit

254of a more efficient route that that's something we need to look at anyways because of our bus driver shortage and we've ordered buses and they haven't come so it's actually one of the bullets on our slides here during the first reading with mr wilcox it's actually on the next bail stuff and it's on it's started the bell schedule but yeah and it was last two meetings right okay all right it looks like um sorry did you have another comment i was going to say it looks like that concludes our discussion of this item so we will now move to the next item which is the 2022-2023 bell schedule this is the third reading with action requested and um i just just kind of a reminder mrs oaks had reserved the right to to make a

255motion but however that previous item was for discussion only so mr wilcox thank you president i feel like i'm letting you down cause i have no dad jokes tonight i apologize no one's back they're willing someone can maybe help you out for the dad joke to start off the budget one okay yeah uh uh here's our again third reading on the bell schedule okay so the bell schedule found the main document that we'll ask you to approve is found on board docs with all the starting end times for all the schools again always the challenge of finding bus drivers you know we've had actually a couple quite recently just not going to finish the year because of just family or life events so that's always a challenge trying to stack these runs on the route

256we talked about the draper those 11 buses that go into draper park go somewhere else right after that and we need that at all levels to try to maintain that efficiency uh but we do that brings the challenges that we do have this compressed spell time uh we also should say that you know part of the issues are you know we have each of our high schools has a c-tech shuttle we have a diamond red shuttle we have salta pickups we have all kinds of transportation challenges out there we have of course field trips which are been a big we've really had a lot of field trips and then you know extracurricular activities and if you just can't wait for enough next tuesday it looks like we're gonna have a board meeting but you're going

257to miss out on lagoon day as we have uh 60 buses going take a middle school or eighth graders to lagoon so uh but those are the challenges that we face so here's just the proposed changes uh again you just you on board docs you approve the early dismissal on friday so those times are shown elementaries didn't change but you know the the secondary times are shown there again we want to emphasize glacier hills is going to we're recommending go to the bellevue time uh of nine o'clock to uh three actually that should be 3 35 not 3 30. the reason being is we have three buses in the bellevue area the one that has its last drop of 315 one at 329 329 and 321 again making that final drop off doing the walk

258then getting over the glacier hill so that again that's the reason why we really need to go there and then also these will no longer have the midday runs the kindergarten ones that we'll talk about in the budget that you guys know about the full day kindergarten alta view altera crescent east sandy oakdale rich crestman also needs to be added with a late ad as silver mesa is on the list that you'll approve so they will no longer have these midday runs also glacier hills will have full day kindergarten as well as bellevue does now so and then if you ever wanted to look at a bell study we'd ask for you to give us the optimist what you'd like to look at we're always going to have constraints matter what we do so you

259really need to give us how you'd want to do it we'd always want to do a three-tier you know a high school middle school and a elementary run the best we can to make the most efficiency out of it so with that that's all i have on that um yes are there any let's let's just ask for any clarifying questions i guess okay mrs oakes okay i would like to finally make a motion on um draper park middle start time so i'd like to make a motion that draper park middle start time be moved to 7 50 a.m with an adjustment for the start times of the elementaries um for draper elementary and lone peak elementary to begin at 8 55 a.m play on the right track tracker you'd also need to make that motion

260that draper park ends at 240 if you do okay got it okay so let me try this again so i'd like to make a motion that draper park start time may move to 7 50 a.m and end at 2 40 p.m um with draper elementary and low peak elementary thereby starting at 8 55 and ending at 3 30 i'll second your p.m sorry i was writing everything else on the bell screen and i think we could do we could do two separate let's do two separate just to keep it clear yeah and i'll second that addition to your motion too okay wait was there an addition i i just wrote down draper park start at 750 dismissal at 2 40 draper elementary and lone peak elementary start at 8 55 a.m and dismiss at 3

26130 pm yes and that is for the 2022 and 20 to 2023 school year only or just oh beginning beginning in 2022 2023 sorry thank you for the help with the motion everyone okay so we have a motion and a second and now discussion to this motion this is my bar can i make an amendment to that motion for the 2022-2023 school year um only i think she's wanting it for one year only so there's so that we can stay committed to a just a discussion for the future i think that that's committing and that's committing us to something that we don't know what the discussion is going to be moving forward and so i i would like to just say that that's where it's starting and we can talk further about that once we

262get into our round table discussion um so let me just think for a minute procedurally it would be appropriate to make us not amend the motion but to make a substitute motion and if if you want to do that procedurally that that is appropriate to make a substitute motion well i will make a substitute motion even though it may not get seconded or voted just because i know i've heard from so many in my community about the first priority to look for the future so i will make a substitute motion for the bell schedule as indicated by ms oaks but for the 2022-2023 school year only at this time okay we have a substitute motion is there a second okay uh that motion won't move forward for lack of a second so we'll go back

263to the underlying the main motion which um again is again or do well know what it is all right so and that motion has been made and seconded so now any discussion to this motion one question yes mr millerberg with moving draper park middle to the 7 50 start time that leaves us with mount jordan only at 7 30. we'll be leaving it where it is based upon what the survey came back that we discussed at our last meeting or do we need to give more attention to mount jordan middle i would like to speak mrs arnold so we are leaving mount jordan where they are based on the discussion from last board meeting and from my visiting with mount jordan they've got their schedule set their board set it's taken them three months and

264we're not messing with their board we're not messing with their schedule and we will come back to it if we need to but mount jordan is off the table thank you i would hope that what it was i just felt like mount jordan needed to be mentioned because they are the only ones left at that time i'm not opposed to it at all okay further discussion to the motion mr wrigley one of the major issues with mount jordan was the pushing the back of diamond ridge and that caused a major problem with diamond ridge so that was the big issue there further discussion to the motion um i'll i'd like to just say that i i support the motion i think it's a good compromise for this particular situation i and to mrs neibauer i

265am supportive of having a discussion of a district-wide study that is not only focused on on looking at start times and and that was what the that's what the legislative um i'm sorry recommendation was was to look at it not really resolution yes thank you for that word was to look at it and if if also in looking at it we can create a more efficient transportation system then i think it is worth spending some time on that so um but that being said i i am supportive of this um making this decision for for ongoing just kind of recognizing that there will be further district-wide type discussion possibly if that's the direction the board wants to go when we talk about it in the round table so any further discussion to this motion okay

266see none i will ask for a vote all in favor please say i i any opposed that motion passes let's see sorry cindy did you have a question okay all right all right thank you um we will now move to the next oh i'm sorry yeah the next part of this one is so now with with that decision made regarding those three schools um we need to look at the district wide all of the schools bell schedules so let's um leon do you want do you have any additional information for that that for the board to consider we've gone over that uh no a motion i think would be in order just to clarify that that would as found on board box with the exception of those three schools just mentioned okay and then just

267to to also remind the board that as outlined on board docs includes the new early early out times on friday for each school in the district and um okay so are there any further questions on this piece of the bell schedules okay um i this is again it's a third reading action requested i will ask for a motion and in making that motion please reiterate the change that was just made by the board i i will make a motion thank you yes i'll make a motion to approve the 2022-2023 bell schedule including the changes effective for draper park middle school drape elementary and lone peak elementary thank you is there a second to the motion i'll second though thank you any discussion to this motion okay see none i'll ask for a vote all in

268favor please say aye aye any opposed okay that motion passes thank you okay next next item is item 8e the 2022 2023 budget update this is a second reading and i will turn time over to mr leon wilcox business administrator go through this in a hurry we hit some of the budget last week we'll have other parts today and then the budget hearing or next meeting june full business meeting on june 7th want to just hit and also since you approved that esp negotiated an agreement that have been a couple of slides added to this presentation uh i just want to hit our enrollment this is the big concern to me right as our neighborhoods start aging out or housing prices are escalating making it more challenging for kids not young families to move into

269our communities our birth rate we know as a state is dropping all those things and so you can see our projected enrollment continues to decrease somewhat over the next few years you know once you get out it's hard enough to predict one year in advance but when you get out five years it's really hard so you know that 26 27 years we're still you know there's lots of ways away but next couple years we just see the enrollment figures going down if you look also i should say there's our draft financial statements out there on board docs you look at page 64. you can see our enrollment by school out there you can see how each school's you know most starting to that do that trend downward that's a big concern that has funding wise

270moving forward uh some good news though we let you know last week that we were received a 1.2 million dollar grant to expand full-day kindergarten this was part of the legislative legislative priorities from the jlc a big i think this is a huge one for us i think we were the biggest winner of all districts it's about 12 million dollars and we got about 10 percent of it so we're a big big winner there you can see the schools where we plan to expand we went uh although altera crescent east sandy oakdale server mesa and red crest we isd and amber's team selected these schools recommending these schools based on student achievement student achievement demographics mobility and homelessness in services in those schools so should be said those schools will no longer have the supplemental

271program because it's full day we're getting funded for it the supplement will still be in existence at all the other schools except for the title one and glacier hills it's bruce wood we're trying to bring it back there we'll see if we can get the enrollments back there if they don't care then we have to have the families go elsewhere but we have our registrations are up for that moving to the beverly taylor sorensen arts we had uh copper view peruvian park willow canyon addis so went out to 23 elementary schools and jordan valley should be said the five schools that we don't have it out or out of view brookwood is any glacier hills and oak hollow so hopefully we can eventually get it spent there so those are two good programs that we

272are fortunate to include this year it's about the kids we're sad to be losing losing this one though this has been a big uh this has been such a great thing for i think the whole state is our south park academy and so that we know that will be transferring to with the new prison opening up to salt lake city school district next year we are grateful that there are five employees who are with us now who will be moving there to help help that program continue uh we've been cleaning out the equipment and supplies the past several weeks from what we've heard the move is expected to occur in july that we've heard the prison facility is done and the definition of all the testing and looking to open that here the next couple

273months but we're real sad to see that go but certainly wish salt lake city the best with that as that moves forward uh canyons online due to the low enrollment right now we've assigned the k5 teachers tentatively to schools okay uh we're just not part of the then we're going to evaluate this come july first and make assignments as needed based on the feedback we've got from parents the k5 have chosen online because of a response to culprit and that's been the overwhelming thing and so with kobuts seeming to be just a part of our daily lives now they're looking to bring their kids back in person in these key five grades they've had a very positive experience they want to emphasize that with our paintings online but they just wish to bring their kids

274back to brick and mortar as of last week we had about 35 register for the k-5 program the six through eight parents have a little different view they're looking more about the middle school experience maybe some anxiety for their students so we think that's going to carry a little bit more well as of last week we had about 70 who expressed interest in coming back there's a big quite a bit higher number but we do plan on offering some type of online education services for next year we'll have more details as we get more enrollments we're trying to advertise there's a pretty saturated market out there with online as all districts and charters have some type of thing so it's it's a pretty competitive market right now but we do expect the k5 students to

275come back into our buildings uh this is where some new slides here again you're approved the esp seller negotiations this is part of the agreement eliminating steps one two and three on lane one so everybody starts at 14 an hour people will step up accordingly so if you're on lane step one this year you'll be on step five next year we want to get that starting salary up to about 14 an hour here are some other things that are our proposals our lane run instructional assistance that's what they're called right now we'll reassign them as copy and recess aids they're paid from general funds they will still be on lane one our instructional assistants that are in the classroom will still call them instructional assistants but they're going to move from lane 1 to lane

2762. they are pretty much all paid out of land trust and tssa funds we just can't you know we've heard all year long our principals just can't hire people so that's what we're moving there brain boosters or our instructional technicians who can verify a bachelor's degree go from lane three to lane four our elementary admin assistant says they're running the whole building by themselves we feel like they should be moved from lane six to seven our lunch managers and their elementary and middle schools were proposing we'll move up a lane because we're just not finding the clerks and we're going back to taking payments next year they're going to have to oversee our online payment system then we'd keep the high school manager at the same lane but they would receive a thousand dollar stipe

277actually some of our middle schools serve more as many lunches as some of our high schools with some students leaving uh so that's our proposal that's about a million three ish all those that we're trying to add to these needed positions here and adjusting that salary schedule so that's a big part of our budget again this wasn't necessarily included in the negotiated agreement but it's our proposal and included in our budget to you here i just want to hit a couple things again we have our draft statements out there you can see our run of i've looked like the last four years and what we're looking at this year not a whole huge change part of the reason is uh we're uh losing lots of we're not spending as much s or money next year

278we're not we did not receive any ecf we got 4 million for chrome books this year we won't get in the bottom 1.1 million for south park leaving so all that you know our revenues aren't much more next year than they will be this year but a little bit you can see it by source property taxes versus state unrestricted which is the wpu and or state restricted which is things like special education funding cte funding and whatnot and then a little bit of federal which is always higher than in the past several years with the sr funds and a little bit of local there at the end you can see our budgeted expenses again you can see how it's gone up the last several years our first budget was about 190 million 14 years later

279we're not quite doubling it but getting up there high and you can see it by function how we expect it to be again the biggest part we want into instruction but then going around to facilities that would include custodial maintenance and the utilities is the big one there staff that is actually going up because teachers were getting the 32 hours of prep time that they do all that they'll do on their own so that one has gone up and then uh school admin student services would be our counselors psychologists social workers then all the way around the circle there again the biggest hit is by object or the type of the detailed item just under 90 of our budget is for people that's when we cut up that's when it's hard to cut a budget

280without cutting people you can trim out a few supplies here and there but it's ninety percent of it is people that's what education is it's about providing education services for people uh here i just want to emphasize a couple of things i think you all know this uh going having done this this is our finishing our 13th year starting our 14th we always underestimate our revenues and we always overestimate our expenses okay we know that our goal is to always come under budget on our expenses one to three percent and we expect the same for this year so you can see we are budgeting to deficit spend a little bit but we expect these to be balanced when everything's finalized there there will be some transfers that we're going to have to propose to as

281with our costs have executed we may have to look at transferring money out of our general fund into our capital fund to finish up these projects we've mentioned that over the last couple of years and there's also a code out there that we'd like to use that if you have remaining revenues in your debt fund you can use that for technology that's a lot of districts are using that now with all the technology needs out there we hit some of the financial items last week the capital outlay all the projects we plan to do our good service payments our school lunch and pass through taxes again you can see the page numbers on those draft statements so i want to just quickly turn to finish up our tax rates again we expect our tax rate

282to go down since our value has gone up again it's an inverse relationship value can score down values go up rate goes down other way around so i mean we bring in the same amount of money the big blue line there is that the old jordan debt is gone they will no longer see that however you can see we are layered in our debt that cst debt there so we are looking at a the tax rate going down to about that six six mark which is around a five percent increase however i want to emphasize this this is a samples tax statement this last a year ago in 2021 our average home value in throughout the district was 497 000. i put in you're going up eight percent that's kind of what this cdc this

283statewide process has us going up so i increased it by eight percent that puts us up about three five thirty seven a 40 000 increase on the average home i think some have gone up gonna be up a lot higher than that you know higher than that eight or nine percent but anyway what that does though when it all adds up it's about a incr an eight percent increase in the home value but it's about a two and a half increase in the property taxes owed or about forty seven dollars in this case now if your home value stayed around five percent oh increased by about five percent it break even or you may even pay less but if it goes and if it goes up higher than the certified rate you'll pay more i

284always say this there are going to be people who pay more property taxes this year every year year after year because it's all in the value of your home in relation to the change in the certified tax rate and that's that's how it's calculated so it can be all over we have 60 000 homes in our district and there are thousands of scenarios out there where it could be related but it's important to remember the district is bringing in the same amount of revenue as we did last year with the exception of new growth coming on and paying our debt and setting what the state mandates is the basic rate so uh with that then just finishing up we'll have our final our we'll ask you to approve this budget at the june 7th meeting

285both the revised budget for this year and the budget for next year we hope to have it finalized by this friday we'll send out to you it has to be out there for 15 days for mandatory public inspection before you can adopt it and we'll later in june we'll have the final certified right back so without any questions sorry board any questions mr wrigley yeah i've had some discussion uh with you probably and even the superintendent uh of a paradigm shift in regards to our clients our students our patrons are only within our district as we move out of this i think we really need to aggressively go after the uh k through eight or k through five generally outside of our district we know we've we've done a great job on advertising to our

286district people want to go back to school but there's a group of people who want their kids in our line and i think we've got some great options for them and i think that needs to get out the other one we've had some discussions about is is in our high schools we're moving that direction early high school programs or other college programs in our high schools we need to draw these kids into our district from all the other areas and so there's several things that maybe we as a district we need to take a look at uh judicial schools have not gone outside their boundaries and with our boundaries shrinking and continuing shrinking i think we need to think outside the box on some of that and maybe that's a discussion for the board in

287the future on what possibilities we might be able to do to get other people outside of the district and actually do to compete school districts haven't had to compete but compete because they're competing against us and the charters and the privates and onlines are taking kids out of us this is just not birthing this is everything else going in there and we really need to compete so i i love what you've done it sounds good but that's the only thing i've encouraged is we maybe have some discussion in the future with the board of how we can actually start competing with all the other markets so that we can try to stop this downward trend and stop them from taking more people away from us thank you other comments or questions anyone else mrs mrs

288hoax um steve i appreciate your comments on that i think it's the right move to kind of take a closer look at some of that i it's it's been um interesting to receive some emails from some of those students that are part of the canyons online and to hear from them about what a quality experience they're receiving and how enriching it's been and they really feel very heard and very connected to the school and the teachers and i think we have this little jewel that i don't know how well um people are are aware of it really so and you know clarion just shared with me that tooeles started out with how many students initially in their online program i don't know the exact numbers but i think was around 100 ish you know 200

289and i think they're now up into the thousands of kids that are now on their own lines so i think there's a lot of different schools yeah yeah i i mean the more that you look at these different kind of um hybrid approaches parents are taking with schooling i think it's it's worth taking a look at and especially um as you give parents flexibility it's interesting you know there have been a lot of parents especially with kobut that have discovered that there are a lot of flexible options out there before i think their only experience was really just traditional school and some of them discovered that they really enjoyed learning at home with their kids or maybe they wanted to teach certain subjects or experience certain subjects with them and then have them go to

290school to do other things i think we need to explore the idea of allowing flexibility and how to appeal to those parents that that's really what they're looking for thank you any additional comments or questions okay so this item will come back at the june 7th meeting and we will have the formal budget hearing at that point thank you mr wilcox all right board that concludes our business for this evening and we'll now turn time for a superintendent report and a business administrator report uh superintendent thank you president real quick i just want to thank the board for all of your efforts tonight we had a lot of uh heavy topics uh on the agenda tonight just appreciate all the work and uh i too want to just offer my apologies to our retirees i

291couldn't make it to the banquet somehow i have been able to avoid covid for two and a half years and last week was not able to escape it so i am feeling better and on the mend but as you can hear in my voice i'm still a little bit under the weather so but i just want all of our retirees out there to know how grateful i am for all their years of dedicated service and wish them the very best in their future so thank you to all thank you mr wilcox uh yeah thank you president tinky uh just a couple things one a big congratulations to the class of 22. uh getting our first class as jeffrey and kirsten has said 13 years so congratulations to them next friday i mean next week next

292wednesday and a big day for them also congratulations to all the retirees as rick mentioned really enjoyed their banquet last week i just have to mention there was one we have one more uh today that is floyd's instrument will be leaving us as well he'll be retiring so we'll miss floyd and wish him the very very best moving forward so that's all i have thank you thank you um board members where should we start we'll start with mrs shiel okay um i do not have very much today but i just want to wish all of our retirees best wishes and congratulations and also thank you for their service i also want to wish all of our sports teams it's all the spring sports you know state quarterfinals and brighton has several ten they're doing well

293in tennis and soccer and lacrosse soccer and lacrosse just won tonight so and also baseball is going on so anyway i just want to wish all our students the best and i'm excited for graduation thank you thank you mrs nybauer i want to wish all of our retiring teachers and faculty my best wishes that evening was really beautiful i really appreciate all the effort that went into that and i was very very touched hearing how how these teachers have affected life and it was very inspiring to me i'd like to extend my congratulations to mindy van der graaf as the sorensen legacy award winner for excellence in arts education last week i went to our art show at willow springs and i was blown away the theme was every child is an artist and they

294had mindy had just it was it was incredible to see how the arts was integrated into what the kids were learning and she had a tent with black light art ceramics these water bottle displays that looked kind of like the van hooley bent glass sculptures it was just so incredible i really really enjoyed that um i'd like to take a moment and bear with me i've written a few things i i had a parent um let me know about an incidence in our in our middle school and it made me think of a few things that i wanted to share here there was a disagreement between her child and the child's friends and other middle schoolers and it was over the subject of flags at this middle school there's various flags being displayed in windows

295and and one of the children came up and said that asked them they said that their special interest flag was what was important to them and what was what were what was this group of children's flag and they thought for a minute and they said well the american flag and then there was a disagreement and the child said you haven't done anything your fl for your flag to be at our school and your flag hasn't been fought for like ours so ours is better and i'm just so saddened to believe that there are middle school age children who do not know how many people fought for our american flag and how many lives have paid the price for the freedoms that we enjoy there's been so much commentary in the past few years about what

296the american flag is and what it represents and i i believe that the american flag doesn't necessarily represent all that every american is but maybe all that we ever hoped to be and i was just thinking about how we can help our children feel united together in friendship and respect and that we are showing inclusion for all um i know steve has talked a lot about words being hijacked in our society today and perhaps my sharing my my love for our country uh you know maybe that would be categorized as patriot which used to mean someone willing to stand for our nation and now it seems to be associated with one political um ideal and party i believe that as as we teach our our children that in our school when we fly the american

297flag the state flag our school flag that we are saying come one come all and that all that we respect everyone and that and that life liberty and the pursuit of happiness was meant for all regardless of color race religion gender or sexual orientation and i just thought it been contemplating if if the kids knew that to be a bangle meant to to love and respect everyone no matter of preferences that that maybe they can bond together in that unity maybe our first amendment rights are best honored with post posters and messages in classrooms such as at jordan high all students are loved and respected here for example i just am really i appreciate the efforts we've made with constitution day but i'd really like us to as we move into our roundtable discussion reaffirm

298our our commitment to teach our children what it means to be american and what it means to to believe that all men and women are created equal regardless of any other affiliations and hope that we can we can help help unify the children so there may be less of labels and division and grateful for this time of year and and for our graduation celebrations that will be happening and and so grateful for all the efforts that have been made by teachers faculty and administration throughout this successful school year that's all thank you mr wrigley thank you in trying to keep to our new board policy of an early out i'll try to keep it pretty i'll try to keep it pretty short uh first off i really appreciated the district in regards to our celebration

299of our retirees i've always loved that i've worked for the state for years and it didn't get anywhere close to we got so thank you for all the people that do that the second thing is i'm grateful for the parents that we've many parents have given us comments in draper park i know it's been very frustrating in this process um i'm hoping they're understanding that this is a very complex thing that we do it just it's just so complex and looking at everybody's needs in trying to do that and sometimes they don't please everybody but the board is looking at all the aspects of it and trying to come up with the best solution that we have available uh i'm also grateful for this time of year in regards to graduation this what makes it

300all worth it in regards to be on the board when you look down at those students and just look at their eyes and say we've had some small part to play in that it makes it all worth all these late nights until midnight or whatever we do well maybe not totally but anyway but it really makes it really good uh and then the last thing i'm i'm grateful for the opportunity to run a primary i actually get to get out the people's dock on doors and i'm fine there's a lot of good people out there that are really satisfied with what we're doing i'm catching a couple of people asking questions but most of the time after i talk with them they're feeling okay but anyway but but i really grateful for that opportunity well

301maybe not but anyway it's just a good opportunity it's a real good opportunity to meet and actually knock on doors and get to talk with people so thank you thank you mrs oakes um i want to reiterate the retirement banquet was awesome i i love so many of those people that um are leaving and it's it's so bittersweet happy for them really sad for us and i think about the amount of service they've given so many kids it's remarkable um i didn't have a chance to to be here last last time but i wanted to give a shout out to everyone who helped with the parent canyoneering night i thought that was incredible and um the all of the information was so useful and i'm really happy that we've recorded it so that people can

302download it and listen to everything that was shared um i love this time of year for the the band concerts the orchestra concerts the plays the carnivals all of it is so much fun i actually think may is like the happiest month of school it's the busiest but it's the most wonderful and you know having multiple ap tests and getting through that and seeing kids and their relief on the other side there's there's a whole lot um graduation i have all these really interesting moments happening for me as a parent right now i went to my son's choir elementary choir concert today and it was awesome and then my my eldest is going to be graduating next week and he's one of i need to get you some pictures right like it's it's a very

303interesting time it's very bittersweet but it's amazing and i think so often about all of these incredible teachers that are helping my children with these milestones i mean listening to my little guy up there today and those teachers that are down there teaching or you know leading the music all of the things he's been exposed to because of these wonderful adults and mentors i feel like i'm the beneficiary of so much goodness and i am so grateful for that so anyway i i appreciate what miss neighbor had to say with regard to unity and our nation i feel very similarly and um the thought that i have is that unity begins with us is as adults we need to make sure that we're showing our children an example of unity and kindness and and respect

304of one another and our world right now especially in light of um the events that took place in buffalo new york this last weekend i'm thinking a lot about that in our country and what that means and how do we begin with civility and kindness because our children will mimic the things that we demonstrate so um anyway those are my thoughts tonight thanks everyone thank you mrs arnold so amanda it might be awesome and fun for all the kids but for the teachers we're just barely hanging on you know that little picture of that little animal that's like all frizzled and barely hanging on but we're hanging on and we only have a little while left um so i started this is personal which is fine i started swimming so i could lose some weight

305and um gets back in shape i figured at 68 69 years old it's not too late and i lost seven pounds but i went to the ib graduation and put back on four of those then i went to the retirement party and put back four more so now i'm minus one pound from where i was in one week so i guess i'll wait until after graduation next week and then i'll start all over again but um i love the ib graduation it was awesome they did a great job those kids are so smart and so talented and there was one boy there that would not give up until he got the video up of the graduate graduating class and he tried and he tried and he tried some more changed chords tried another computer tried

306another chord for the tv he wouldn't i that guy i would hire this moment if i had a big business he did not give up for the whole i don't know he was tenacious two hours i think at least and um i don't even sure he ate his food and he was just like trying and trying anyway um it was a great opportunity to see those kids and hear from them and then the retirement party was also great to hear the dedication and the opportunities that those teachers have given children and then their own opportunities that they're taking and going forward with i also attended the district safety meeting and that committee is so committed to the safety of the students in our district and trying to find new ways of making students safe in

307the buildings as well as communicating what's going on and really i really appreciate all that um jeff does to make sure that that gets taken care of and that we meet and that we talk and um i just want to put a plug out there for all the principals please try to get your fire drills in this week i mean yeah this week it's last week right get that fired reel earthquake drill put in there and then it was amazing how many of those students got scholarships and how huge the amount of scholarships they got i was really excited for them i was a little concerned when they almost all said i don't know what i'm doing i'm what it what did they say they um hadn't decided their um not yet determined what they

308were going to study in college and um i thought about that um is that a good thing or a bad thing that all these students are graduating they got scholarships and they're going to these universities all over the world but they haven't determined what they want to study i don't know i've been thinking about that anyway thank you all um i am going to put in for a stipend um i figure it's about between seven and ten hours every night that all of you guys are here every other tuesday right and so i think um i'm gonna put in a plug that there has to be some kind of stipend for you guys for the extra hours that you sit here and listen to us talk i'm really we're not even entertaining um thank you

309appreciate you all here bye thank you mr millerberg you know on my list of retirement we've talked about that uh the uh ib graduation you talked about that one thing on there and i'll leave this for you nancy was the latinos in action award ceremony um but i'm going to go a different direction tonight i mean latinos in action was a great deal sorry i had to run out but i had another place i had to be at the end but i'm going a different direction and this is very personal to me i think you've all heard me before talk about howard johnson my fourth grade teacher that in fourth grade he decided we were going to learn to speak russian that was a fairly small group and that's been quite some time ago that

310i was in fourth grade and i will tell you that every time there's a chance that we get together the class of 68 i seek out the kids that were in that russian class the last week we lost two more of our fourth grade class both amazing people but i'm going to single out one verla backstab sperry went all through elementary school middle school and high school with virgo good friend uh she had lived in my community and we would from time to time bump into each other she was a national board certified teacher she was a recipient of teacher of the year when she was teaching at crescent elementary she taught as well at mid valley which was fun for me because when i walk over i would always make sure i slipped into

311verla's classroom she retired a few years back and she has spent the last five years of her life in a memory care place suffering from alzheimer's absolutely one of the brightest people that i've ever known um she came by education uh honestly those that have been around a really long time will remember the superintendent of the old jordan school district back in the 50s and 60s with reid backstab which was really bad i would walk over to the elementary school for the halloween parade verla could have been put in the movies of the witch she had right down to the ward on her nose and she had a costume for every holiday i have to believe that a teacher that taught as long as she did and was creative and as dedicated touched the lives

312of thousands of people um i think to me as i sat in the audience at the funeral and listened to what family members had to say i think there's absolutely no substitute for what they refer to the teacher mom and a teacher grandma and how her kids and her grandkids have excelled in life because mom would not take no for an answer and mom made darn sure they could read they could do math and they could excel in life and i think that verla is just a an example of the thousands tens of thousands of teachers we have in our district and have had over the time over the lifespan of our districts as short as it is that have given everything they have to make sure that the children living in our district have

313an opportunity to not just survive but to thrive and so i don't think we can underestimate the value of a great teacher so to all those that have spent time in the classroom thank you thank you um yeah many of the events that i've attended since our last meeting have been spoken about and i i just will echo the nice things that were said um for the latinos in action event that was just so thrilling to see how excited they were and and how just um committed to their education and how committed those students are to serving their fellow students and to being an example to those that are younger than them and and i really appreciate how that those students are recognized for those traits and those characteristics that they've worked on and and

314and shared because it's about sharing and lifting others and not just about their own personal achievement i enjoyed meeting with some of the pta volunteers in our district that were attending the state pta convention we had a really good conversation and i just appreciate not only the work that they that they do in our schools but um one of the parents just it was kind of a 45 minute q a question and answer and one of them said what can we do to help and i just love i mean that's their attitude that it's what can we do to help um wherever they are um it's it's the helpers that are so appreciated i was able to attend the albion middle school combined concert of their instrumental and choral music departments it was fantastic they

315held it at brighton high school the performers literally filled that new stage that brand new stage that i i don't think they could have put two more students on that stage and and still had them all at a safe distance from falling off the edge it was it was incredible and they were they were so excited to perform and it was um it was just um a delightful evening i'm so glad i could go and then i just finally want to express my appreciation to the administration of our district as deserving as teachers are of our appreciation um you as administrators also are deserving of our appreciation um you have so much on your plates and you juggle so many things and then next thing you know something else just comes out of the blue

316and you you handle it with professionalism and respect and um and always keeping in mind that what's best for the children and students and and how you serve our district is very i appreciate it very much and notice all the great things that you do day in and day out that are often unnoticed so thank you and um with that if there's any unless there's anything else if we can call 10 21 early out i will say this meeting is now adjourned you