SLCSD Board Meeting, March 4, 2025 5:30 PM

001uh welcome to this Salt Lake City School District Board of Education meeting today is March 4th 2025 um Muhammad bade board member bade is running late and will'll join us in a little bit and Bryce Williams board Williams is excused this evening um we do have the need for a close executive session and I'll entertain a motion on March 4th 2025 I move that the board go into closed executive session to discuss the character professional competence or physical or mental health of an individual pending or reasonably imminent litigation and collective bargaining I second all right we've got a motion and second on the table any discussion all right seeing none we'll start with a roll call vote uh with board member Anderson Ashley Anderson yes Nate Salazar yes Brian Jensen yes Amanda long yes Charlotte

002F Jefferson yes all right that motion passes uh we'll be back in about an hour thanks everybody what does the legisl to call collective bargaining going forward because it's still inod Christina has a like the code still says collective bargaining I think they're trying to get someone to sponsor run a bill to realize their Mist oh really no so did you see the latest email I sent yeah they don't what we awesome you're good you're good the other [Music] okay will not tomorrow how good is your triv knowled knowled of our not just all right good evening everybody uh thank you for rejoining Us online and for everybody that's joined us um while we were in our Clos executive session um today is March 4th we are here for the purposes of a Salt Lake

003City School District Board of Education meeting um I do want to announce that um board member Williams will be out this evening and is excused um first off um we need to have the Pledge of Allegiance and I have asked Mia and Aurora to step up from Their audience to lead us in the pledge this evening come on up ladies start when you're ready okay alance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all perfect thank you ladies you did an awesome job I also want to take a couple moments to acknowledge our association presidents uh we have buildings and grounds and president alyia compo for Child Nutrition we have President Tanya Slaughter for siia we

004have President m Haron and vice president Chelsea a Costa who are with us this evening thanks for being here and for our Salt Lake Association of school administrators or sloa we have President Adrien labado uh the next item on our opening items is our recognitions um we have the math count winners math counts winners excuse me and we have Holly Macintosh um and Allison espanosa to introduce uh our our math counts winners good evening everyone and to you too thank you for the opportunity um to present our math count awardees for you tonight Salt Lake City School District's math department has been supporting math counts competitions in our district for over 15 years and it is really growing we had 160 sixth graders seventh graders and eighth graders registered to participate this year and that's

005up 35% from last year so maybe even over 35% but we're going to estimate we'll do maish tonight not be precise but anyway that's great enthusiasm and interest in math counts uh math counts is a national program that provides middle middle school students the opportunities to compete individually and in teams so um against and alongside their uh colleagues the teams focus on problem solving teamwork and computation they prepare and practice all year for the events that they participate in and math counts really focuses on Middle School students because they realize it's a critical time to foster a passion for mathematics and a love of mathematics um we're celebrating the awardees tonight but I also want to honor everybody who participated um because what really happens in these events is the awards are nice but it's

006so important that we focus on on the growth um what you learn and what you develop by participating is what matters most so stepping up and I'm talking to all of you now stepping up for New Opportunities like math counts is how you grow your skills and your knowledge and your dispositions about mathematics it's how you grow your confidence and your stamina and your math identity and when you step up for these things you really grow um it's a good thing to remember it's not just about having the lucky math Gene it's much more about the hard work and the extra effort that you put in so we want to honor everybody in that way um Dr Allison espanosa one of our middle school math coaches uh was the point person for the math department

007on math counts so I'm going to let her tell a little bit more about math counts and um present our school team uh leaders as well as our student aies hi thank you Holly yeah so as Holly mentioned um math counts is a competition for students in grade 6 through 8 and it can be a really um exciting and unique opportunity for those of us in middle school and those of us in elementary to collaborate and really bring students together in an academic setting um during the math counts competition students engage in rigorous and interesting math problem solving um both individually and in collaborative um structure um it gives them a chance to explore some mathematics outside of the content the core content standards that they that they see in their math classes uh and

008just generally build as H mentioned their math confidence strengthen their math identity and participate in our Salt Lake math Community um for some of our teams the math counts competition in Salt Lake City School District is a culminating event and for other teams it's just more of a stepping stone before they compete in the state level math counts competition or perhaps even in some years they get then get to go onto the national math accounts competition um or other competitions in the state I know that we have some Salt Lake uh students that are going to be participating in Utah Valley University's math competition next week and we hope that the that our competition um help prepare them for that experience as well so as as Holly mentioned we our program really grew this year

009we had uh nine different teams compete and they were supported by eight different teachers and two of our uh elementary math content area Specialists um so those Educators invested their professional and likely personal time in preparing students for the competition both in providing instruction and access to resources um whether they were doing that as an after school club um or doing it by embedding some of the math counts materials within their core instruction as a way of different iting or extending the learning for students um it was definitely a Time investment for both the teachers the Educators who were doing that work as well as the students who were preparing um for the competition so I'm just excited that we get to be here today to celebrate their their efforts um so uh yeah at

010this time I'm going to uh I would like to recognize the teachers and the award winners um so math counts we have a couple coaches I believe that are here today I'm going to invite them to join me here and I'll share the microphone with them if they I'll share the microphone with them if they don't mind so they can help me uh recognize their students so we have quite a few students who uh who received awards that we're going to recognize tonight so let's start here uh first I'm going to just recognize Julie Henderson so she's at Indian Hills Elementary School she is a teacher at Indian Hills um who is the coach for that team and she had her student Elise Allen uh received an award in the competition for the the best

011in school award here or oh [Applause] up you hly we could have them come stand up there wonderful certificates or something that work yeah come on up here thank you just stay there while everybody else yeah so Alexander Brown was the teacher at Franklin Elementary School and his student Skyler minle uh received the best in school award [Applause] Skyler thank you okay at uh Whittier Elementary School Riley Jones was the uh educ educator who supported their team is Riley here okay and actually I think I might have let me come back to that um Tina Jensen is the teacher at nibi Park who supported the DLI team is Tina here are any of the nibbly park um DLI students from that team here Michelle akubo is the teacher at Hillside Middle School and she supported

012the the hillside team okay Ariel Nelson um was the countdown round [Applause] finalist erel also received the best in school award congratulations for that as well [Applause] from enzine uh Elementary School Christina Richards was the teacher uh who coached that team is Christina here okay well let's recognize Benjamin fornia he received the best in school award at enzine thank you [Applause] paa orosa chatia is the um another uh she's a Content area specialist at nibl Park uh and she supported a team from nibble Park as well and her student oops sorry y'all I'm getting my pages here in order uh Damen Galvez uh received the best of school award [Applause] it's a lucky thing to have so many I know there's so many papers right um so we have Richard Davis is here from Clayton

013Middle School and he was our teacher coach Richard I'd love for you to come help me uh recognize your award winners [Applause] here would you um recognize our students here okay so we had our team that got second runner up in the team competition that's Desmond Quintana [Applause] also on the team was Isaiah [Applause] Spencer Max Francis was on the team while we're on the subject Max Francis also got the best in school award as well as he finished fifth in the countdown [Applause] round L mark on the team going to make it tonight and also in the top 10 Countdown was Cormac [Applause] candy thank you so much okay I know I mentioned earlier that Tina Jensen was the teacher coach um of the nibbi park um DLI team um Anna Gia was their

014uh best of school award recipient so congratulations to Anna Gia [Applause] okay and that brings us we have some Award winners as well from West High School in their 78 program um so Todd vodrey uh was the teacher coach and some of his students won the individual Awards so we had our uh first place individual Award winner was adua mandal and her sister ashaa mandal actually received the second place individual award [Applause] uh in addition Frederick pow from West High School he was a countdown round finalist um he was also received a team award as well so congratulations to Frederick pow Ivan mahanti was also a team award recipient and Josh uh Zang was a team awarded recipient as well in addition to Ethan Kim Elijah Elijah Johnson Bowen dong Melinda Zhao adidi uh nalang

015and we have quite an impressive West showing and I believe that these are folks now that I'm getting two that won multiple Awards I think I said Ethan kin's name but I'm going to recognize him again as a countdown round finalist I believe that that might conclude our award [Applause] recipients so thank you for um allowing us the time to recognize our our award winners and just celebrate the per performance of our our mathematicians in Salt Lake who competed thanks y'all [Applause] go yeah we'll take one picture then you two can get in for the okay look at the board in there as well okay you com I think [Applause] okay thank you teachers and students for all of your accomplishments and and teachers everything you're doing to make sure that these programs are successful

016for our students um up next on our agenda we have the consent agenda and I'll entertain a motion I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented or was posted second all right we got a motion in a second is there any discussion to the motion all right seeing none we'll start with a roll call vote uh with with Charlotte F jepperson uh yes Ashley it's me Ashley erson yes Nate Salazar yes Mohammad bade yes Brian Jensen yes Amanda Longwell yes all right that motion passes uh up next on our agenda is our request to speak um the board's asked me to read some guidelines that govern your comments this evening uh the board enjoys the opportunity to hear from the public during the comment portion of its meetings before we begin I

017would like to take a moment to remind you of our board rules governing your comments the total time served for public comment is not to exceed 15 minutes with all speakers or groups limited to 3 minutes the board will not allow public comments during board meetings that are slanderous obscene or otherwise violate state or federal law employees Andor their representatives may not use the public comment period to address issues that should be raised through existing formal communication channels or establish grievance or negotiation procedures I'd also like to explain that unless the speaker's topic is already on the agenda state law prohibits the board from taking action on items raised during the public comment period however if it seems appropriate to the circumstances I may direct District staff to follow up with a speaker on the

018topic discussed our first Speaker this evening is Diane Crim Diane [Applause] welcome greetings my name is Diane Crim and this year I will finish my 36th year as a middle school teacher in Salt Lake City School District I'm one of the teachers from sxie Bryant that came to the board meeting last spring to advocate for focus on middle school today I turn to you to share both deep gratitude and what I also believe is urgent feedback Dr Grant thank you not only for listening to us but taking action to create this Middle School working group it is concerns about the implementation of this committee's work that it brings me here today I hope you will receive the feedback in the way I intended as a chance to refine this important process of gathering and integrating

019input from stakeholders you've received an email from one of the two teachers on the committee expressing concerns about the composition of the committee and the top- down and unclear nature of the process to this I would like to add my own experience the working group began the meetings in September 2024 I kept myself informed about the committee's progress by checking in with both of the teachers on the committee this is why I found myself befuddled during a November meeting with Mr Miller where he told us that the district would be re IR iring all middle schools to offer accelerated and honors classes in mathematics I went to the teachers on the committee and asked about this statement Not only was this not agreed upon but it was Contra it contradicted what they learned at one

020of the exemplary middle schools the committee visited when describing the keys to his students academic and social success the principal at Eisenhower Jr High explained that the first thing they did was eliminate honors classes he went on to explain how detracking students and creating heterogeneous classes with rigorous curriculum had resulted in better outcomes for all many of the members of the working group agreed with his strategy and offered support perhaps you can imagine our surprise and disappointment when we saw in the report two recommendations about honors classes that Mr Miller had labeled as non-negotiable had someone in the district leadership really already made the decisions about honors classes three months prior to the completion of the committee's work and in opposition to the beliefs of some of their colleagues on the team what gave me

021hope that day is witnessing each member of this board do what I teach my students to do ask good questions please continue to ask good questions and expect good answers from the leaders entrusted with guiding this great work Salt Lake City School District stands at a Crossroads with the opportunity to design a structure for accomplishing Dr Grant's stated goal of genuinely involving stakeholders in light of the imminent changes in shared governance District leaders and building principles have an even greater responsibility to engage with all community members in authentic and transparent ways we must never treat those who work to face at uh face to face to support and Inspire our students every day as tangential to the process on the contrary the only way to achieve educational Excellence is for all students uh to work

022with engage students as a part of a collaborative team thank you thank you [Applause] D all right and that was our only speaker on this evening Diane thank you again for joining us this evening um up next um for those that are are following us on online you'll notice that there's a a new section of our agenda that um board leadership has discussed with the board um just briefly through some emails um in an effort to not lose track of some tabled items uh from our previous meeting that we didn't want to um to leave you know off of the radar so to speak um so we've added this section um of course our board um is governed by some rules um that when an item is tabled that a member from the prevailing side

023has to untable the item um to either U the discussion or the action agenda this evening um so the first uh section of this new section so to speak um is uh number one the discussion agenda we do not have the need to untable the first item there which is B3 administrative procedures uh but I will uh entertain a motion to untable um items B and C of number one there um to the respective discussion agenda board president salar can we also move to untable them when we reach that respective section on the agenda so we know we're able to actually get to each item so if we moved through reports into discussion we don't end up with an overlong discussion and we're able to get through each item in order um you know all

024we're doing is moving it to um the discussion agenda um so we're not going to necessarily make a decision right now um so all the motion would be that I'm asking for is to move it to either the action or the discussion agenda does that help with the timing element that you might be thinking about it does it's just my question is we could do it when we get to those items correct we could um okay but I I would also like to kind of streamline what we've what we've um presented so if there's a motion on the table I'll rain it I'll go ahead and move to take from the table the motion to table um District department reorganization and Board calendar and move it to the discussion agenda right we have a motion

025in a second second okay we have a motion in a second on the table any discussion all right seeing none uh we'll take a a roll call vote starting uh with board member Anderson Ashley Anderson yes Salazar yes moham yes Brian Jensen yes Amanda long yes Charlotte F Jefferson yes all right that passes and uh we will revisit those two items first um on the discussion agenda same process for number two um action agenda items a B and C Core Technologies kick up Incorporated and MGT of America Consulting I move to take from the table the motion to table core Technologies LLC kick up Inc and management of American Consulting LLC and move it to the action agenda I second got a motion a second um any discussion okay seeing none we'll start with a

026roll call Vote with myself Nate Salazar yes Mohamed yes Brian Jensen yes Amanda Longwell yes Charlotte 5 Jefferson yes ashle Anderson yes that motion passes um we will revisit those uh when we get to those sections of the agenda um moving on to our reports agenda the first item there is the 2025 2026 capital projects list um be here thank you as attached to the agenda so this is the next building block in in the budget process as we continue over the next uh couple of months to give you little pieces of the budget so when you get the full budget um in May it's not overwhelming so as noted in in the cover letter uh we have a team uh of our auxiliary services along with a representative usually the principal or someone from

027the building they do walkthroughs of each building and they go through and determine what needs to be on the capital projects list for next year that we actually have a fiveyear list but as we're just approve you know we're working on the next year's budget so we're focusing this presentation on the capital projects list for next year um and we also had a if you remember we had a bond pass and part of that Bond was um sustainability projects so those are included in here and in my cover memo I kind of break out the the piece of this that is paid for with the bond through those sustainability those sustainability projects and then the other just um Regular course of of business items that have been presented um so again this is just here

028to for your review um as we this will be one piece of of the budget when we um get to the whole capital projects fund um so open to any questions oh Amanda sorry I miss um I did ask this to you before but for the Public's sake if you could review why um buildings that uh were closed um or buildings that are older um Etc are on the uh proposed list to Absolutely I'll start with closed so we still own the closed buildings we're actually still utilizing them we have staff in them to keep them from um being vacant becoming uh uh overrun so we want to keep them in working condition so to do that things still have to happen because we still own the buildings we don't we didn't want to shutter

029them and just have them sit there and and become an eyesore so we we need to keep them in working condition and that's why you'll see some of those closed buildings that you know we do have projects that will will happen uh on some of those closed buildings uh older buildings as well I mean we have students in them uh all even our buildings that might be older still have several years of useful life so we need to make sure that they continue to provide a a safe learning environment for our students and so you'll see um all of our buildings uh if there's a need will will be addressed thank you and a followup to that we're obviously on the back end well we're going through the process of determining what we're doing with

030the properties that we closed do we have kind of a rough timeline on determining what the future use may be or what what path those properties may be taking so when we go to make the decisions for next year's budget um that is hopefully in conjunction to the other piece versus approving all this work and then we're selling it next week so to speak is there does that make sense because we're we're we're going through through the school plure process in the G5 it's then determining going through the steps of determining if we have uh internal use and if we don't you know there are steps that we need to determine up to and including potentially selling so as we're gearing up for this budget discussion and these proposed items to spend a lot of

031money on um have we considered what our timeline is on going through that G5 closure and studying those properties for what we're going to do with them yes um so at the next board meeting our second one in March we're going to bring to you the district needs and make um ask that we use current facilities for a couple of the district needs that we have um and let you know which sites we think are the best for fulfilling those needs um um once the board has decided that we're going to fulfill District needs with particular sites then the sites that aren't used would go through a SE a second process which would be deciding how we use them more generally to this point we've made a decision as a board and maybe it's an

032informal decision not to sell properties there's been a general agreement that um these are public assets that are held by the district and should circumstances change and we need property again in the future we want to have this on hand that doesn't preclude us from using them from for a hundred different uses it would just mean rather than selling outright we may just lease property uh lease buildings things like that so all of that can be laid out in the coming months so once the district needs are determined the next step in that G5 process is to do um an analysis of the sites that remain and this analysis includes the real estate analysis I've got I've forgotten the names Alan do you happen to remember the names and I believe that we would hire

033a consultant to do this for us a a a professional that has you know real estate and property management and all that so there's a fiscal analysis kind of looking at what what the value of the land would be and things like that so it can bring that to the board for decision-making and the other is looking at how could a property be used and placing that question in the larger context of the community the property is in so looking at all sorts of things we've looked at when we first looked at um this G5 policy and trying to figure out how do you repurpose school buildings um we had shared with the board I believe some ideas of different ways buildings have been repurposed either for housing teacher housing they've made retail out of

034them um Community organizations use them those sorts of things so there's a lot of different uses that we could entertain but part of it is just getting an overall understanding about that property and things so that would be our next step so once we make that determination and we haven't scheduled that in board meetings because we're waiting for this first step to be completed which is what are the needs of the district first for space and property and then from there then what do we do in the next step of of moving forward and that would include those analyses that would come to you as a board one more question so do you this uh um I guess leading document is saying that we're anticipated making the budget um decision on June 3r so for

035the G5 uh process on these uh buildings that have closed um do we anticipate at least getting most of the way through that to at least be informed as to how that potentially impacts our decisions regarding the budget for next year that's a good question except I'm not sure what the impact so the longer term impacts would be if we're we if we if you as a board because you won't you essentially are the owners of these properties as a board so if you as a board make a determination that we are going to to build teacher housing or family housing on a lot we wouldn't be investing our dollars so much we'd be keeping the building in decent shape up till then so that would be the cost I imagine that Allen still has

036in the budgets the upkeep and maintenance in these um but then so the the longer term cost of just keeping the buildings and the and just more so like obviously you're saying the main approach is keeping these properties and then we obviously want to maintain them so they don't go into disbled and it cost us more money so at least have an understanding of what our goals are with these properties so we can take that into consideration when we make the budget decisions in June yeah I don't anticipate that we would be spending District money to do anything to these properties beyond their basic upkeep that we you as a board are not going to become the Developers of something that we would lease that out partner with people to do that and that sort

037of thing so we can have people who do that kind of work come and speak to the board to share more about what those processes look like and things as you're trying to decide the next steps for those properties yeah and that would be great it was like us to be closer in that process into time for those June and that for that June meeting yeah I I would question whether based on the process we would be done and have a decision made on what we're doing with each property by by June I wonder that too yeah and maybe we can't but at least if we can keep that moving forward so that we are further along in that G5 closure process um so that that can be meaningfully considered in this discussion because obviously

038the budget's a huge component of what we're doing here that's the time thank you Ashley I have a question um for Alan if there are schools that see that they have Capital needs and they don't find them on this table and they are concerned about you know upkeep or maintenance of their building what is the best Avenue for them or how would they know for instance if your item is not on this year's list but we would anticipate it to be in the next handful of years how would you navigate that I would suggest the principal reach out to our executive director of auxiliary Services Isaac ASU thank you any other questions for Alan um thank you Alan appreciate the time and uh we'll move on to the next um item on our agenda which

039is the legislative audit discussion um for the public as you know um the board directed um Allan um and Logan Hall to um start the negotiations um with our classified Association groups like SLA and and um our classified groups and so I think we're just hearing a little brief update on where we're at right now in those negotiations and discussions right so we had an initial meeting with uh San our classified groups uh two weeks is ago um uh had good conversations with them and I'll have um Mr Logan Hall just kind of update on that process yeah essentially just what Allan said we have initiated the negotiation process with the purpose of addressing the um recommendations from the legislative audit um we've only had a one prelim minary meeting with each uh group both

040our certified teachers with uh salake Education Association and with our classified associations uh our projected uh outcome or our we want to make sure that we're finished so that uh no matter what if we get to a point where we make changes to the written agreement we need to have that back to you no later than uh May 6 as a very absolute latest deadline because we cannot make changes as a result of house build 267 passing this year we can't make changes after May 7th of this year so our goal is to wrap up hopefully by April 15th to have things back to you as a board to make final approvals um but the absolute latest deadline will be May 6th so we hope to have a another report coming soon any questions for

041Logan or Allen question as of course so when our meeting started obviously um the bill that would undo shared governance moved through Senate tax and rev but none of us heard that discussion because we're all sitting here um so my question would be if that bill passes what would occur differently than what you've just reported to us if anything I don't know if anything would be different I think we'll have to uh weigh that and analyze the the outcome of whatever happens with that bill before making any further decisions any other questions I have one more please um what would be the change in relationship to all of this with the conclusion of collective bargaining as set forth by the legislature also so the change to like what what you're talking about now what are

042the next steps and what would happen with the written agreement based on the new law based upon the new law any um contractual agreement that we have with a an employee Association group will be null and void after after their expiration date and So currently our written agreement that we have with our educator group expires on June 30th of 20126 and so after that point in time we will no longer be able to engage in collective bargaining and therefore would not be able to have a um Collective bargained collectively bargained uh written agreement or U Associated agreement of any kind but so regardless of what happens with that law or this other law that is moving swiftly through the process June 2026 would be the day in which that becomes more affected does that make

043sense I I think so yes so the the written agreement like I said expires on June 30th of 2026 um so that would be the ultimate date if the other bill that I don't know it exactly but the I believe it's House Bill 545 that addresses uh share governance Provisions in any written agreement um with a collective bargaining group that um if that goes into effect and becomes law that would nullify any part of our written agreement that contains um elements of share governance but no other elements no no other elements the the rest of the agreement would remain intact thank you that's until its expiration date thank you you're welcome thank you Logan thank you Allan and I also want to thank uh Mike chelia Becky your executive team for participating those negotiations with

044us and your patience throughout this legislative season so thank you thank you very much right moving along uh we have a technology update um and Alan do you mind introducing this one I think Sam might be coming up right um invite Sam Quant our um Information Systems director uh to come forward he's going to do a presentation per board request on um just some technology issues um throughout the district right we'll make sure that comes up real quick okay I just need to make sure it comes up on Sam doesn't have an IT guy to help him out make sure the camera comes over here um thanks for allowing me to be here with you today I'm a little have a little trepidation not because I don't want to present to you it's uh that

045I'm afraid of all the sales calls that will happen tomorrow [Laughter] so I already get a lot of them but whenever we talk about technology they seem to come out of the woodwork so in um September of 22 we presented a budget to the board of education to officially fund one: one throughout the district prior to 2022 we had we have been uh we were one to one really at that time already because of all the computer purchases that we made during covid prior to co we were somewhere between uh one student uh one device for every two students between to one device for every two and a half students somewhere between there it fluctuated per school um and that varied depending on the emphasis that the school put on the program okay on on

046technology and so this was a way to standardize it across the board and to provide access to all students um this is the budget that was approved and and uh at that time so we initially um recommended we purchase about uh 10,400 devices right out of the gate the reason we did that was because during the year of 2122 we bought we purchased 10,000 computers alone that was just to keep up with the demand for remote learning so our plan on this was to have a five-year rotation of devices and to stretch that out we needed to buy extra devices to start replacing a few early so we could level it out over time so um and then in years three through five we would drop those numbers down to a more um accurate number

047of what our enrollment was um we also got approval for additional uh staff to help support this as well as we looked at um providing a districtwide kind of we call it a private LTE network so we could have internet access or more specifically we wanted to extend the classroom to the home and we'll report on how that was as well so the devices that we use are um an HP ProBook X360 running Microsoft Windows and then we do have iPads as well particularly a onetoone device uh iPads will be a on toone device for a special ed student who has it written by our assisted technology team into their IEP we have some some schools that have previously purchased iPads for their younger grades and we can talk about that in just a little

048bit I want to talk about the X360 the reason we have purchased that one we evaluated a number of devices and um this one really provided the most flexibility we were able to get the price down to a reasonable place um it has a 360 hinge so one one of the features that we get a lot of feedback on is they call it tent mode so it flips over sits on a tent and they all have touch screens so the students are able to function what kind of like a tablet in there so we get some good feedback on that um when we talk about cost of these devices these are a little bit more than you would get from a standard consumer device at your local store right the reason that is is we

049buy a business class model of device as well as we purchase an additional two years of warranty on these devices so we try and buy a device that is flexible to to meet all of the needs of the requests that we get and we get a lot of varying requests from schools um the iPads uh function very well in a very kind of specific scenario iPads have a little bit of a limitation that they are um specific to maybe the apps that they have if you're trying to just work through the browser on some of these applications that becomes a little cumbersome um so they really have a niche but where we see some challenges or perhaps in testing and things like that so we like to use the standard device for all of our

050grades because of the testing requirements that we have and the other factors okay so over the last three years the first two years we purchased those 10,400 devices as we anticipated and came under budget so we anticipated about 20 2.3 million for those two years and we came slightly under budget this last year because fer funds were expiring we purchased this next round of computers a little bit early we put that in in I want to say it was have been would have been June or July of this last year um that one was a little bit over budget we we anticipated a $1.9 million cost for 4,400 devices but we for two that and that went up for two reasons the cost of everything's going up number one and then number two we increased

051the memory we doubled the memory on those devices and the reason that is is we had a we have a push in our CTE programs to really work with the Adobe suite so Adobe Photoshop Adobe Illustrator and um rather than having two different devices one one device here and not having a student be able to access the software at home we decided to purchase a device that could support that application as well so all of the other applications plus the Adobe suite um we anticipate that cost being able to come down because of our declining enrollment um our next order because we purchased early won't be until about a year from now we won't do another student onet to one so we might have a little bit of a stretch on some devices they won't

052be exactly five years they might be a little bit older again that is to try and level out the large purchases that we previously had but because our enrollment is going down I don't anticipate needing to buy 4400 it'll more likely be somewhere between 4,000 and 4200 now the reason we buy 4,400 or that number is when we distribute to a school we don't just give them one device for every student we provide 110% of their population so that extra 10% of devices that is to help the schools account for any enrollment growth that we're unaware of at the beginning of the year and loss or damage what we don't want to get into is a situation where a school has 20 students move in and they don't have devices and I've got to wait

053six weeks to get them in we want to have them ready and move in so that's why we build that 10% in so they're just there um when we built this we created a one toone school guidance and it has this is just one page this is the document District document Center under information system so if you're bored one night and want to read it feel free um but what we tried to do is build these models for schools to allow some flexibility in how they orchestrated the technology in their school not just here's one device for a student that's all you get so we built what's called a base technology model and we tried to really account for it based upon what it costs to support a device in private sector a computer technician

054on average supports about 150 devices in Salt Lake District one computer tech supports 4,000 devices or more so you know when we're looking at providing we want really good response times I want to be able to have you put in a ticket I want a response within 24 hours if it's high I want it within a few hours um those are the type of response times that we want but because of those sheer numbers we have to put systems and processes in place to help us compensate for the lack of Staff okay um we were at a I was at a conference in Redmond one time and they had a an SLA service level agreement that if they were in a conference their Tech had to be there within five minutes so that was like

055that was their requirement that's how serious it is out in the price private sector and so we we we can't get to five minutes we really try but um those are factors that we're think about when we're thinking about Good IT service so every School receives one laptop for every student K through whatever grade they are um then we say you can also have up to two um live or two Labs that includes if you have a lab in the library and a lab somewhere else um and then we talk about maximums here's what we can support um you can have one: one plus 20% growth on top of that so we said okay here's we give you 110% you might need another 10% for some other purpose you can figure that out okay um

056and then we just give some guidance on it like if you choose that 10% to be iPads if you choose them to be additional laptops that's that's all in your base model right but you can kind of fluct what that is the only difference between this base model for the middles and the high schools is the number of labs that we allow so we allow four labs in the middle schools and 10 labs in the high schools and that was to account for some of the CTE labs and things like that that we have in the in those schools this is an example of an application we built so schools can see what their inventory is if you ask any of my school text right now about inventory they'll probably twitch because we talk about

057it all the time this is a pretty sign significant asset that we have so um this particular school had an October one count of 484 we can see that they currently have 586 devices that we through District purchases have provided to them um the school this particular School hadn't purchased anything from their own funds um and then it's it's not a high school so there's no CTE devices there they have 46 iPads and 27 desktops we have um list there just for reference staff count uh staff counts and staff devices we actually don't include staff devices they're automatically grandfathered in to our support model um the only time we'd have a question with that is if I see 71 staff members and 300 devices staff devices and we might say why do we need four

058devices for every staff member so if you look at that next on the next line you've got a one toone student laptop allocation that's 110% of 484 um they currently have 586 uh total laptops and then when you include the iPads and the desktops that we're supporting for student um support there's 659 devices total where their maximum number their base allocation is 60.8 okay so they're one under a school does not have to meet their maximum they have to meet at least their minimum which is the one: one so anywhere in between the minimum to the maximum they can be at and they have flexibility in kind of deciding how that looks currently we have 23525 working student laptops as of the other day when I looked in our student information system we have about

059just under 19,000 enrolled students so we have plenty of devices for students we try and keep track of these numbers of lost and damaged how are they being used so what we have marked in inventory this does not include things we don't know about at the at the moment but we have 436 devices that are within their support cycle that are um lost I can tell you that during the year between 2020 March 2020 when we closed and came back for remote and we had to give out devices so fast we were well over 2500 devices that we just have no idea where they went we would get the back from the police department or someplace years later so um this the management of that device is as far as keeping track of them we've

060definitely improved um we have 345 damage and these are in various States of uh damage they could be damag Beyond repair uh they could be in technician repair and so forth and we'll always have that but that's why we build in that 10% so that a single damage device does not impact the day-to-day operations so in summary on that piece all but one at least all schools have at least one device per student in the laptop range and all but two schools have 10% more devices than the one device per student that could be various reasons an enrollment growth that we've had um or whatever schools when they at the beginning of the year if they don't feel like they have enough devices or throughout the year they can reach out to me and we'll

061evaluate that if they need more devices we usually provide that um we look at their inventory and say okay we're showing you have these many devices do you know where they are let's do a quick little audit and then we move that forward and then most schools when we looked at that base technology model most schools have more than their base allocation we have some schools that have upwards of over 200 based upon the last few years over their base allocation so we have a lot of devices out there this exam this is a screen from our main curriculum application single sign on app called clever inside of clever you will have a bunch of educational apps like Lexia or a link to Canvas OR um I ready is another one that's there and this

062shows us over the last 28 days from January 28th to February 24th what our logins were on that we know that these come from our devices there are a few that come logins that we can tell come from home but the majority of this comes from our devices 72.8% of our students that we have rostered have logged in sometime during that 28 days to use this tool and as we look at the flow right very little usage on the weekends but during every day of the week we are somewhere up in that 88500 student range logging into this device and that'll vary from school to school um this next slide shows us what applications we are using um obviously the top 10 login clever itself they've got to login to clever to get to the

063other applications but you can see that Lexia Core 5 during that 28 day window was our number one used application from that system and you can see them all being moved down from there and that West High School was the number one user of applications students logging in throughout that window as well now these apps that we're looking at now are applications that are um connected to clever we use clevver as a distribution point we all of these applications are integrated in with our with our student data we roster through them and so forth what we used to do is we would build these uh programs that would automatically roster these individual programs and so we were managing 20 plus up uploads every night with clever we're we were allowed to um uh consolidate that

064to one upload a night too clever and then clever pushes that data out so it allows us to um really keep track of our student data and where it's being pushed to which is a requirement of uh some of Utah law um so we also have applications that are um just links shortcuts so the number one shortcut that is used and clever is canvas that inst structure is canvas the number two is our Student Portal okay so you can look at that number of unique users 4,889 you can say well there's not very many people using uh canvas that's because we have alternate ways of accessing canvas they do not have to just use clever they could go through they have links on the website we have links on our desktops um it's all over

065it's so I that's why I added this bottom slide of Cid's uses just to show you we have about 5,000 students accessing it through clever but overall we've had 14,000 in that 28 day period that have engaged in using canvas I put in a week period just through uh February 17th through 2st just to kind of show you what it looks like in a little shorter period and more recent period we had 11.6 th000 unique students use um Canvas OR clever and core Lexia Core 5 is still our number one application but this time Glendale was the number one school for that week and that all Flex yeah go Glendale go Glendale that's right okay I want to talk about purchases now you'll see because this has been a question that's come up over the

066course of this year and it really is about understanding what we have we have the onetoone purchases and that'll happen once a year we've shown that that's happened once a year um we have teacher devices those actually I hope are on the I think we're on the consent agenda tonight we have a grant that is purchased for that so we we have teacher laptops that we buy and we replace 20% a year for every five years so we can keep teach the teachers having uh adequate devices and then we have everything else previous to this year schools had their Capital outlay funds distributed to them last year we decided to consolidate that and so what we've been going through is looking at all of the places where needs haven't have been unmet over the last

067few years we're seeing devices that are 8 n 10 years old that have needed to be replaced so we've been trying to level that out these are Office Machines district office staff auxiliary staff everywhere we're looking at um and buying that because it's consolidating you're seeing me put in one big order instead of 15 separate little orders that would not have come to your attention before because they're over so that's what you've been seeing over the last few months you've been seeing me spend um almost a million dollars in just keeping our staff devices bringing them up to speed um okay our software approval process currently we have 407 pieces of software that are approved in the district um there is a Utah law called the Utah student privacy I always get it backwards so

068I got to make sure I get it in my head uh Utah student privacy and data protection act that says that any piece of software that contains student data we must have a contract with and they must meet these requirements so for example they can't use targeted advertising if if the software uses targeted advertising I'm sorry we can't use it um because that's what the law says so we have an application that teachers and staff can put an application in it gets reviewed contrary to popular opinion it's not just all it that reviews this I review it for the data privacy and system compatibility for actual curriculum uh propriety I go and meet with teaching and learning I say we have these applications do these meet um with the direction that you have for example

069we had a a a piece of math software that a school wanted to use and we use as our district curriculum we use great minds through or Eureka Math through great minds and so I reached out to Holly MacIntosh and said Holly the school wants to use this does that meet in line she was like let me check on that she went and visited with the principal discovered how it um would be used as a supplement not a supplant to that other piece of software and so we approved that one through the other day I had a piece of software that was submitted by a CTE teacher and in it it had some wording in their privacy policy that made it look like they might do targeted advertising and the piece of software was an

070industry standard piece of software for programming so we know it's there and we have this wrestle so what I did is I reached out to the teacher and I said hey here's our challenge here um we have this other piece of software that we use internally in our programming Department that conceptually is the same thing we we willing to set this up for you so you can use this instead and the teacher is investigating and thinking about that so we use these processes to discuss uh uh these requests that come in so everything that you see is denied here um are denied for a reason right so 43 of those denials were they were just duplicates right I had some um three people asked for the same piece of software 63 we had denied for

071either data privacy concerns they didn't want to complete our data protection agreement or um it was some sort of unsupported software so um there's some software out there that doesn't work with clever for example and so if it doesn't work with clever to be rostered we look at the cost to support it and then to roster it if it's too much and then we might say we need it to work with clever so we're not building these other systems to do that um additional IT staff um we we hired all the IT staff that was approved um and we actually decided that we were okay to downsize a little bit based upon our structures so the systems we use one of the reasons we use uh the Microsoft system from an IT side is the

072management you you will not find a better management tool out in the world for that every organization will use many organizations use this so we we had someone get promoted and another one leave and so we decided we would leave with 16 texts instead of 17 these are just out in the schools just to kind of show you what we're doing with our staff and then the private cbrs previously we called it LT e but really the signal was um a CB radio signal um so we have different spectrum of where the signal will function we can buy licenses in the CB radio spectrum um in the LTE Spectrum that's where you know T-Mobile AT&T they all operate getting Spectrum in that um range is very expensive and very hard so um we didn't have

073that capability so in the glendell area we built this um essentially wireless network that stretched all through that quadrant so you think about Riley Parkview Franklin we had that that whole section covered with this signal and what we found is it did not penetrate homes um and we worked with uh the Utah education and Technology Network on this they have some um Spectrum Engineers that have specialized tools to help us with us and when they got to the point of well you might need to put try and put a an booster in this apartment complex we were like okay this is probably a little too much for us to manage and we decided to pull the plug on that project that it just would not work for us without going to that next level of

074spectrum so we abandoned that project um previously during one to one we we dealt with student hotpots we had about 1500 at our Max we never gave out a full 1500 um the foundation also had um Internet Essentials vouchers for Comcast and we've used a few of those over the last few years we've decreased the number of hot spots from 1500 down to 200 just based upon the demand we don't even have it we haven't even had a demand from schools for 200 based upon the requests that we have so we've just kind of been managing that if we had a higher demand we might buy more but we've just rather than paying for devices that are that aren't being used we've just shrunk that down all right any questions Char so I um have

075a question about um do you have so you do you have some programs or are all of the applications that um used districtwide or some only used at at a school like at a site site based yeah we have both both yep so we have our main infrastructure applications and curriculum applications that are used districtwide if a school has chosen to purchase um a piece of software and it can be approved and it passes all the checks we allow them to use that okay um are there do you have a process by which you determine what the districtwide applications are in and is this just going on year round like as the requests come in all all the time right Dr Hall and I visited the other day about how we can um streamline that

076process sometimes we get an application in and you can tell that someone didn't quite understand the question in the form what we were looking for and we're like okay how can we make this better and be more meaningful um so we uh visit all the time when we were if I'll address kind of like Microsoft we get that question all the time why are you mic Microsoft versus Google um when we uh went to when the digital teaching and learning Grant came out about 10 years ago that was first on the horizon um the way that we worked through that is I met with um at the time the curriculum Department uh Mr Logan Hall was on that department then and we we we talked with some of the edtech coaches at that time and

077we and we said hey what what do we want our plan to be and part of that plan was settling in on we knew we wanted to move closer to one: one get better at um stabilizing what our direction would be and based upon the feedback that we had been receiving from schools at that time and their recommendations from a curriculum standpoint um Google was only somewhat being used in schools at that time you had some that were starting to breach and it a lot of schools in 2015 weren't there were very few that were one to one they were just on the cusp of making those decisions so there are some schools that were but in general across the state we didn't really have any so at that time based upon those recommendations we

078made that decision to invest that our main structure would be Microsoft and we've kind of moved forward with that ever since but we do try and get feedback so one of the questions that I have right now that I'm trying to work on is smartboards um we have various degrees of um projection software where all over the district and we look at these smartboards which are a relatively expensive asset technology right um and we've estimate that only about 30% of our teachers actually use their full capability the rest are primarily using it for a projection surface so and some will touch it still but they're not using all the full capabilities so we're really asking the question is this technology of what what we want to going forward so we sent out a survey back

079in December to get feedback from teachers about do you want smartboards um do you want to work with interactive or untethered teaching that's one that's out there that's been in a lot of schools do we want to buy this so we're getting that feedback um we're going to be um I'm bringing some devices into my office we're going to have some open houses in the next couple weeks as soon as I can get them for people to come in and say yes this device will work for us so we try and make those decisions collaboratively thank Char okay um just a second here okay so I want to make sure that I'm just understanding correctly you were explaining that we're now like in the 3 to 5e period well we're like in the fiveyear period

080yeah this is the this is year three of of the five year period y so in that on the slide it said 1,971 th000 okay but then what we really spent was 250,000 right is that okay that's correct so when I'm looking at all of those things on the consent agenda and like you referred to one that was on there today like $23,000 is that a part of that2 million 50,000 no that is the the teacher laptop replacement purchase that I spoke about right okay so how does that that's what I thought but how do we get like a full picture of what we're spending on technology on technology yeah do you know what I mean yep yep yep so again I tried to break that out like right now we're spending about $2 million

081on student devices we're spending about uh a little over $200,000 on teacher devices and so far we've spent about a million doll on everything else okay so back to that slide if I add all of those things together then then you get that's our toal that's what we're spending on technology okay so you brought up smartboards that was one of my questions where does where do smartboards fall in they're they're going to come out of this other budget so okay they're the other part we've got this capital outlay budget we have not spent it all so hold on to your seats I'm going to be spending more um because we need it right if we if we look at smartboards Alone um we put them in when the when they were big or we had

082some one-time funds but throughout the district they're over 10 years old we have a couple of schools that have paid to replace them over the years like two schools the rest of them that have smartboards are all 10 years old so we're going to have to strategically make a plan to replace these that's why I'm asking that question do we really want to spend $3,000 for a board or do we want to reduce that is there a better model that gives us our the bang for our buck so there will be more okay so I appreciate you're talking about that I'm now reflecting back when I was in the classroom and I'm glad that you're asking the teachers about you know whether they want them one of the challenges and I am the first to

083admit to anyone that my children always say he's technologically challenged you know um but I think that there are lots of teachers out there that and maybe I'm being too General but would say okay we just figure out how to use this device and then this other device comes along and that can be overwhelming too I mean with younger teachers that are really techsavvy on all of that sort of stuff they're going oh yeah you know use that use that I'm just trying to say there are I don't think I'm the only teacher no that's that's exactly why I'm a proponent of standardization um across the board when we're we really are an organization that will rival large businesses as far as technology is concerned if you look at the complex of what we do

084of the number of sites that we have and the the way we have to secure them and um manage them we are as large as any you know some Fortune 500 companies in the number of employees and students that we have so um it takes a lot and so standardization actually helps us to manage that it also helps us to go deep in our professional development if you have every teacher or every classroom have their own of software or even every school then you run into challenges right collaboration breaks down we actually saw that when we um a few years ago we had two schools that qualified for an apple Grant and we did that as a pilot let say okay let's look at this and see how it works so we had Glendale and

085Mary W Jackson and those schools loved it and it was great and they were working well where that broke down is when we started to collaborate outside those schools right and that's where we saw the problem of non-standardization so I think what you're talking about is if we can standardize on these tools even and I'm not saying we don't limit innovation in the classroom right I'm saying here's our Baseline if we have that Baseline then we can assign the resources to make sure that teachers and students are able to use the technology for their learning okay thank you I mean that that makes me feel better I I do have a couple of other questions and I have a little bit of time so um we were talking about those um iPads or I guess

086what my question is how how many of them are going home now I know that there were a lot of them that were going home of course during Co but are they still going home uh so iPads we're not sending home generally where we have those Pockets we use iPads again with our special education students where it just is the better device for them we have some schools like Newman that kind of invested in a little bit more of a a structure at that time they had a grant we had that iPad Grant right and then we have individual schools that have purchased iPads are an interesting conversation because I've posed this question over the years to our teaching learning Department even as recent as school administrators at the last um admin Institute we've have

087we have a conversation of whether or not these these laptops are right for our Young Learners right so for K2 and this conversation comes out I've seen other districts where they do iPads for K2 so I've asked that question do we use iPads for K2 I can get behind that I can support that and see that but the response that I've received from the schools and the people that I've talked to is not really committing yeah I can see that but nobody wants to say yes we should go that way and the reason that is is because some of the limitations of the iPad again it's very specific if you got the app for it it's great if you're just browsing or something like that it's great but if you're using it for testing maybe

088not so great right okay you you're getting to my because when I was in the classroom we were having to use it for testing because of all of the stuff that was going on and it was not fun a nightmare yeah not fun okay so you're looking at all of those sorts of things okay um then I guess my last one how are we handling like student parent responsibility because you talked about you know like 500 of them are lost and another 500 of them are damaged back when I was in the classroom there was a a paper that you know the parents were signing with their students or whatever that they would accept responsibility are we doing that yeah that happens actually during school registration it's part of that it talks about how much

089the device costs and you may be charged for it but we look at it for these assets like we don't we just don't want throwaway devices right throwaway the throwaway devices that you buy you know kind of at the consumer lower price level um that if that's what you want that's that's what that's what you get right you get that quality of a device so we try and help schools to to um manage the um checkout check-in process monitoring do we have room to grow absolutely but I think we are getting much much better okay final question is there a way on those devices that they can be tracked so that if they did get lost you would have a way to you know go oh you know what it's over here yeah yes and

090no yes and no if the device is connected to a network we can kind of see where it is is but if it's turned off oh okay they're not built with um RFI chips that are constantly on so or we don't have that we could add that but that would be additional cost so thanks Brian Ashley yeah I have a couple of questions um the first is that you identified High usage but could you present what schools or apps and software have low usage yes yeah that was just a screenshot of you know what the top 10 were but we can go down and look at drill down into all those schools Okay the reason that I ask is that sometimes I hear from schools or teachers that they limit the device use um because

091they don't want students to incur those repair or replacement costs you're talking about so one tradeoff of not using a device that you're saying is a throwaway device when the device is a throwaway device people don't hesitate to send it home with students um and I think one thing that happens in our district is some schools are choosing not to use these devices because they don't want students to incur the cost if they lose the device or break the device and it's creating some inequity in our secondary offerings um so I would be curious to know like does that play out in low usage yeah if you can provide that yeah that would look and and we we kind of looked at what they are so in our secondary schools all of them send devices

092home except for two of our middle schools um one has expressed what you just expressed and we talked to them about that the other one is choosing not to do it because they really have low homework uses they don't feel like it's a need at that point right that makes sense to me um another thing that I'm wondering about is when could we in the future have a presentation that looks at offerings from comparable districts and the reason why I ask is that you mentioned you talked with edtech about the decision to use Microsoft rather than Google and I think p in past meetings part of this ask for this report was some options for modifying or all you know providing alternatives for what we do now that might be at a lower cost or

093that might be more user friendly for young children as you've referenced and I'm wondering if we had these Apple grants that worked in school and the problem was it wasn't standardized I'm wondering why we wouldn't have pursued making that the standard as it is in Canyons or making Google the standard as it is in Granite if there are some benefits to those approaches does that make sense yeah I think those are all valid um points we have looked at what other districts do um most a good portion of my staff actually lives outside the districts and so we're able to see the quality of the devices that are being sent home and we we we compare all the time so we're looking at that I think the question on iPads however is the challenge we

094have with testing right oh not not just not just that I think it I think it's a fine device it's not that that's that it's what we have with this requirement of testing if we could get rid of testing then maybe it'd be okay but I'm not promoting that we getting Applause um I have one last question which is about some uh experiences and some faculty comments I know sometimes devices do not always work effectively like I was leading a program after school it took almost 45 minutes for about nine kids to be logged on and stay logged on and I'm wondering when something like that happens but then we hear a presentation you know it's like everything's going great what happens when there are significant issues with devices in a classroom or significant staff

095complaints like in secondary school we don't have student monitoring which a lot of districts offer where they can monitor the the students screens and get them out of what they're not supposed to be in not just because it's an illegal website or whatever so if complaints like that happen what is the procedure okay so if if anybody has a problem that seems insurmountable they just need to contact me right every school has a tech so they should work with their Tech first put in a ticket see if we can resolve what the problem is if it doesn't seem to be getting resolved please escalate that up to me but hot off the presses brand new we are actually in the process of implementing a um classroom management software right now that uh just came out

096with the digital teaching and learning Grant we went through an evaluation process of the offerings they have and we are right now we actually are deploying it to we're deploying the inventory piece of it to devices as we speak and we'll be testing the computer management and rolling that out within the next few weeks that's very exciting um knowing that that's a response to one of the things with those problems still continue come up what could we expect by way of we're not going to have expenses till February 2026 you said so any sort of modification to what we do now is not going to come until about a year from now so what would you recommend as the best next steps for us to hear about technology and consider what alternatives we may have

097as we proceed with Ono one in the next year anyone that wants to have that conversation can feel free to have their admin contact me they can reach me directly and we can can have those conversations when we're looking at like Google for example if someone was to request Google today I want to use Google Drive or I want to use Google classro that would probably get denied be because it's not compatible with our current setup right um but if they want to go beyond just that initial process they can reach out to me anytime thank you any other questions for Sam yes Amanda um some of these asked um so you said that schools typically hang on to excessive 10% of what they need um and whenever I'm typing in my numberers you she

098got on here that there's about 23,25 laptops Amanda do you mind speaking into the microphone sorry turn it to try this again okay so you we're talking about how schools hang on to um at least 10% more of the laptops than they actually need and then we have 23525 laptops in inventory but we have a 19,000 is students so our excess inventory districtwide um is almost 20% so we have an excess of around 4,500 um laptops is my rough math um which is basically a quarter of our studo body um obviously the purchasing you say up on uh rotating out things so we're not fall behind and have a larger issue at hand um I I guess my big question is if we've only lost or had damage approximately 800 units that would bring us

099like you know let's say magically 800 disappeared 3900 we're still why do you feel that you need to be purchasing more in about a year when we've already got a a a large inventory and they're decreasing in size right great question so our our goal with that one is to stabilize our inventory we had like I said we had in 2021 we had that huge increase of purchase all throughout that time and so we have a surplus now because of that as we get through this fiveyear rotation we want to keep our devices uh as good as possible when we when we go beyond five years we start to see performance issues and so we our goal will be to just replace 20% of our devices every year so you'll see that and over so

100all of our devices will be you know within that fiveyear range okay so so that we're not moving past that fiveyear period and they become problematic gotcha um and I think you part you basically answer my other question but I'll ask it anyway when you repl for different technology how do you phase out the already purchased items that was when you were kind of talking about smart boards but I think it's still relevant because if we're going to be adjusting uh what is being used we don't want to just well we spent millions of dollars on X but Y is now shiny and new and fun um so how do you typically uh not waste the purchase of Prior items absolutely again that's that's a piece of our standardization we we just had the uset

101conference at the Salt Palace last last week and part of my um the way when I go there I look to see what requests I'm going to get the next day for software right so what do we what do we anticipate that that is new and shiny and how do we integrate that in and so we we definitely try and be very fiscally responsible to commit to at least a five-year window on something some devices will be a 10-year window like a Smartboard or even a projector don't necessarily need to have that five-year window it can be stretched out to 8 to 10 years so we'll replace them on those Cycles um I think those are my questions thank you Sam I just have one question for you um in regards to the hotspots I

102know that was like a big thing um you know previously during Co and knowing that we have like a little stockpile are those like what would that stockpile be used for is it used for students in the classroom or could it be used for other things that we might have going on in the district related to I don't know if the CLC is running a workshop with parents or if there's tutoring needs or if um our students experiencing homelessness might need a a hot spot for internet access to do homework for example could those exceptions be made for those all that so and and and I I think our only differentiation when we dealing with hotspots is we're not in the business of just providing free internet access we're not an ISP right right goal

103is to extend the classroom home that's what that's what we're trying to do so definitely we had a situation the other day where we did have a student that was homeless that needed it we work through that process we're providing that we use it for teachers that are going to conferences and might have TR trouble with Wi-Fi in the airport so we check them out for that time period and come back it's all about the flexibility of our environment perfect thank you Sam y there any of the questions for Sam you start round two with okay I'm just just wondering how if if your team has thought about ways that we can um reduce um I feel like I'm Doge or something waste um I mean how we can leverage our budget and and get

104the programs that are that are or applications that that are popular across the district if it's a districtwide application is that cheaper than having to buy various ones yeah right yes yes so so that standardization is one piece right yep I and I'm and I'm happy to take that on we've done that with a couple of products out there when we've had a group of schools I've um taken care of the purchase of it and then we've build a school or something like that because the economies of scale obviously brings down the cost usually when we have more students licenses one of the challenges that we had with this classroom management is we had a couple products that schools like to use but I didn't have it in my budget to buy it districtwide it

105was pretty expensive schools sometimes bought it with their discretionary budget yeah and so that's why when this opportunity came through we jumped on it so if there are teachers um or admin who are wanting to use a different program and maybe they can talk to you about what the standard yep I mean obviously I'm showing my okay program I don't know if it's a program or an app whatever but um okay yep any any any school that has a question can reach out to me anytime okay any other questions for Sam thank you Sam for joining us this evening for oh one last question okay I wanted to just follow up on a question that Ashley asked and that was you have instances where well your experience you were trying to get them on and

106you were having real difficulty um is there a way that you're monitoring across the district to see if this is something that's problematic throughout the schools so like I already um back when I was in the classroom it was hard getting all of the students on and then by the time you get them all on it the times up so I'm just wondering if there's a way that you have saying oh yeah this is challenging across the board or or is this school you know maybe maybe their internet's not great or I'm just wondering how you address that yeah so um we do have monitoring tools and we look at we can't do every every little thing right um like in your scenario in this scenario that was presented I would love to know more

107about the situation was it the first time the students were logging in on these devices what happens when you first log in device is it creates a profile on the machine and it can take a little bit of time it's not it shouldn't take an inordinate amount of time but once the profile is created um you can log in just fine and that's the challenge sometime with shared devices because if I go to this computer today and that computer tomorrow this one has my profile but this doesn't and so um anytime that I would just say anytime anybody experiences what board member Anderson experienced or you experienced please reach out to me I want to know about about that we our goal is high performance across the board we deal with things like um we'll

108use kindergarten students and passwords right yeah that's know that's that's CC that's a cycal conversation right um a challenging one pass we know that passwords are kind of the foundation for um Security in with personal devices right um we look at other options right you've got Biometrics you've got PIN codes you've got these type of things but when you do those things those are localized to that one device right so you might make it easier on this one device but then if the student goes home or goes to the lab they have no idea what their username and password is to get in so you now have introduced this other Challenge and so it's quite this balance of trying to figure out what is the best solution right as well as trying to protect the

109data of these students right kindergarten and up have access to um their their student portal and their parent portal and we want to make sure that the passwords and the ACT authorization that we use protects that offsite thank you sorry this made me want to offer one suggestion which is the experience I had was also students telling me about the difficulty they were having I was just watching observing right so I think the one thing that I think is most important as we evaluate these is schools sometimes have a real scarcity mindset of like don't take our computers like we really want to keep them and so if you ask adults about the problems they're having sometimes the idea that there is scarcity results in a modified answer but if you ask the students they

110may say something like quote uh Ashley these computers are buns end quote so I would suggest asking the students about their experiences using the materials rather than only the adults because we put them in an uncomfortable position in not knowing the end game of what's happening with those devices but kids will tell you the truth yes and and I agree with that we put out some surveys as well as a couple years ago I met with um uh student councel student body councils at the high schools to get their opinions so great feedback thank you Ashley thank you Sam appreciate it all right before we move on into the agenda I just want to uh remind the public and the board uh that we do have a Time certain uh public comment on our school

111fees at 7:15 so no matter where we're at on the next agenda item we'll go ahead and take a pause to see if there's anybody here from the community or from our our um employees that are with us this evening that would like to to make a public comment there um moving on to our discussion agenda the first item uh which was moved off of uh the tabled section is our district Department reorganization superintendent thanks um nothing has changed in the present since we talked about this before so um I think this is just time for the board to discuss or to ask questions related to that reorganization I would like to make a motion to approve the district Department reorganization have a motion on the table second um point of order it would have

112to be first moved to action and we would have to discuss the motion on discussion before moving into action we can't vote to approve it in this way thank you Ashley I'll accept the point of order um Amanda would you like to reframe your motion sure I Make a Move Motion to move it to discussion is that the action thank you I'll it as many times as you need we can get there let's just get up there we have a motion in a second on the table is there any discussion yeah sure um I think that it's alarming we would limit the amount of discussion because we've only talked about this as a board for 48 total minutes and if you think about the fact we're talking about reorganizing a machine valued at $350 million

113that's 7,291 667 a minute that we spent on the topic so to move it to action without even a second hearing on discussion would be a bit too hasty for me thank you Ashley any other comments or questions discussion items Amanda so I respect everything that Ashley's saying I just feel like um Dr Grant has put a lot of thought into this and with her cabinet and um I don't think that that has been properly considered and I feel like it's negligent that we continue to postpone this decision and not let the district get moving under the proposed org chart so the wheels can get churning and if there are any problem areas they can always be reassessed and there if there are specific areas like the assessments piece that we were had been conversed

114about we could always request that those are presented to the board annually or more often than not But continuing to not make this decision is more harmful than good at this point thank you man any other comments in the discussion just as a um response to that I'd offer the this is out of pace with what every neighboring District in our state does of a reorganization of this magnitude thank you I'll go ahead and charlot um well I just wanted to say that I'm happy to I'm happy to have a discussion here tonight especially if one of our fellow board members feels that's important that's kind of what we're doing now but okay have another opportunity once we finished this vote either passes to move to action or it doesn't so if you have things

115that you want to discuss this would be the the best time do that so Nate could you clarify I think you can discuss on AC what you were saying yes um but I was just forecasting if the motion doesn't pass per se then this would be our first opportunity to do that so I either move it to action and discuss it further there or we stop it here and continue discussion here before we consider moving it to action to discuss it again at action um not necessarily we just uh because of your motion we're going to vote on it one way or the other um which if it passes we would continue the discussion obviously and if it doesn't then we'd have to revisit that at a later time does that make sense well I

116guess my question is um I know that you know Ashley feels very passionate about her side and I don't discount any of it but does anybody else have anything else you need addressed that we need to address because I'm not hearing anything from anybody else so I guess I have a question please um I think at our last meeting you said that you had you had talked to your cabinet but not necessarily you know the other employees in those those hierarchies yeah and I'm just wondering if there has been further discussion at all what you're feeling with the with the staff District staff so I talked with cabinet I've also talked with some of those who would have some different moves within the organization not everybody who was included in a change in the organization

117I haven't talked to everybody that way I have not heard concerns from staff I've not heard concerns from leadership the cabinet since that proposal went out so I'm assuming um that there aren't those concerns and to go along with that just sorry um your hand up and then we'll make sure everybody has a chance first go ahead okay Dr Grant the one thing that I was anxious about in our discussion about this previously we had gotten right to where Sam was going to come up and he was going to talk to us a little bit about that assessment piece that's in his department but then it also appears that there's assessment over in another area and how those two interact to me that would be beneficial because I had anticipated that we would have that

118discourse in the previous meeting so assessment and evaluation I think if now is an appropriate time it would be great to hear from Dr Hall and from Sam about how that's going um and what the reasoning was between be before putting the organization splitting up assessment and evaluation into two different pieces um and what the upsides of that have been and the possible downsides do you mind all doing this on the Fly I know we haven't talked about this for a little while and Dr Grant um we're at 7:15 according to the clocks in the room and I think we should take a pause and we'll pick this back up after the time certain public comment um is there anybody from the community here that would like to speak to our uh fee schedule our

119student fees schedule um we heard a presentation from Alan um in our previous meeting um about the fee schedule some of the potential changes um some of the reasoning behind those and uh this is your first of two opportunities this evening um there'll be a subsequent meeting where we have the same you know uh time certain public comment period so this is your chance Community um and even staff I know um staff members have spoken to our fee schedule in the past as well and just to note that our same three minutes will apply to um your comments this evening for the duration of your comment all right seeing none uh we will go ahead and revisit um I guess Sam and and Dr Hall if you wanted to to join us may really quickly

120can I just comment on something sure just I just wanted to kind of comment off of what Dr Grant had made a comment to that I forgot to mention but I do want to point out that I reached out to slasa I reached out to siia I reached out to principal specifically as well to get feedback on the reorg chart like an intentional reach out to say if you have any concerns or positives please make me aware and other than one individual that we all got emailed on um there was no longing to put a halt to it so it was basically a this is fine so that's kind of also where I stand with moving forward as well but I'm absolutely than support um the coming together with this information that's been asked okay

121um and does the board want to hear from Sam and Dr Hall on this one I know Brian you have a strong desire to do that yeah okay seeing some head knots Dr Holland Sam and Brian do want to go ahead and direct your questions and we'll go on from there well okay I guess my question is how does this how do you interact together because we now have it in two different areas and I mean I don't recall the exact conversation you know from a month ago when we I thought that we were getting to where we could hear what you are doing um Sam in your department in regards to the actual um I guess Crea or accommodating the actual assessments or whatever and if I'm understanding correctly um Dr Hall are you

122then evaluating what the assessment results are I just want to know how this works okay okay I'll start um so assessment and evaluation have been in teaching and learning right and when I mean I mean I still remember a day in a time when part of assessment included sharpening 700 pencils to send out with the test packets right partly because the pencil sharpener was outside my office and in the period of time over the last 5 to S years the assessments have moved to almost exclusively with with one or maybe some other small um sections of giving to being given electronically and therefore the entire way that that assessment the rostering of students you remember this everything is on the computer classes have to be in place we have to have um names exactly right

123they have to match the record that the state has as well as the record that the school has and then we have to make sure that the assessments are open that the internet is working that all of those pieces are coming together and we had and and I heard and I heard through um a variety of people in in that department that it was very difficult for the people in in assessment who were working um kind of face tof face with the teachers with the students assisting with that or helping our testing team we have a a team of trained testers that assist in some of the tests that being not on the it side of the house did not allow them to to make some of the or or to provide some of the

124support that schools really needed and it was really specific to the kinds of work that they were doing but also the things that happened in it and this is where I you know Sam will insert a lot of things around data privacy and making sure that we have appropriate controls over all of the things that happen on that side and so in looking at that shift from kind of paper and pencil um to thinking about how assessments being given online and dealing with that side of making sure that student data was entered correctly and is is treated appropriately it made sense to say that team should be in information systems and under Sam quants because that would enable them to have more of the permissions or the controls am I saying the right words I

125keep looking at you for making sure I'm saying the right things because this is not my house but uh but but that will that would allow them to be a better support to schools um at the at the same time the evaluation and Data Insights side of the house the the uh individuals that we have that look at the data that create the dashboards that provide um a lot of the interpretation of that data that is really a school leadership and performance function and so that that decision of you know where do we put the team that helps you all know that I'm kind of a visual person and Sam always talks about Mr qu always talks about you know the Big Data block right the great big and so anything that goes into the

126Big Data block right the Big Data Block in the sky so that's all of our demographic data that's all of our attendance data that's all of our test assessment data all of that data goes up and becomes clean and shiny and then it goes to the evaluation team and then they do their work with it so those those two sets of people are not connected at the hip they have two different functions one puts it in one takes it out and does things with it and so it isn't necessary for them to be a joint operation and in fact it is more efficient and effective for the side that goes in to live with the Department that is over that has the oversight of putting everything in have I put this at okay and and

127then those people who take it out and do those things with it and then communicate that yes with my team absolutely definitely with my team but also with principles also with area directors the very name of the department School leadership and performance speaks to this is where we oversee or we look at the performance of schools and that data is then shared with us and so that was that was some of the thinking as we looked at how that um connection would happen between actually leaving my department and then moving to Mr Quan and Dr Taylor to their departments now at this time as we are looking at our assessment team who are certificated I am doing their ecaps um I'm sharing two of them with Dr Chelsea Maloof um so we are taking care

128of it that way while we wait for the reorganization to be approved so that we can rehire a supervisor of evaluation and assessment or assessment eval Val ation um so that that person could then take that over as a joint person who would report to Dr Taylor but then assist with that piece of their work in Mr Quan's Department okay I I appreciate that explanation the reason that I'm asking this is okay teacher hat on and I think that there's anxiety when it comes to assessment and evaluation with teachers because there's the part where you're really trying to teach and give instruction and then the amount of time that it takes to do all of the assessment and then to evaluate the data and I think the teachers are anxious to just make sure that

129there's this balance of okay I'm able to do instruction and not all of the time in assessment so I guess one of my questions would be um and I've been in this situation where you're in the computer lab or whatever and you've got all the kids on and you know everything's going great and then you get to a question and there's not a correct answer and you have a child raising their hand saying Mr Jensen um there's not a correct answer and so I go over and I look and there's not a correct answer so who is it that is your team over in your Department are they creating the questions and then he's getting the questions in do you see what I'm saying um how do we make sure respons that the assessments have

130been vetted or whatever and you know that we're GNA be able to do the test and get the results we want I I I think a great response to that is it depends it depends on the source of the test so every uh every assessment that comes from usbe for example we don't have any control over what we work with usbe is the rostering through our nightly uploads to usbe making sure that all the connections between teachers and students are correct the other benefit to this is we do have our own internal assessment system that we build as well and those questions do come from and are vetted by teaching and learning as well as those who are in assessment we have a dual um dual set of eyes on those to help ensure that

131what you're talking about doesn't happen on the assessments that we control okay so just as a followup to that I know I think I know what you're talking about there I mean back when I was doing it it was moving from Sage to rise and all of that okay I can give you a specific example of a sage question that was wrong and I get that that's you know from another entity or whatever but I can also give you examples of an interim that my understanding was coming from I mean you know we were building as a district or whatever building that inter room and there was a question there that was wrong so I'm just trying to make sure that with this breakup that we're going to have whatever discourse we need to ensure

132accurate assessments if there was and and sometimes um if we have created an assessment we also field test them so in addition to having multiple sets of eyes look at them through teaching and learning um having eyes look at them through assessment as the questions go in having people take those multiple times um we often also will ask a a group of teachers or a small group of teachers to field test that assessment to look for that very issue but if a teacher were to find a question that didn't have a right answer then they would report that if it was a math test that would go to Holly Macintosh if that were an ELA test that would go to Chelsea Maloof if it was a science test it would go to Candace Penrod if

133they are ones that we have created in District that's where that would go um there's also another level of assessment where schools and departments or grade levels are creating their own formative assessments the uh common formative assessments cfas and if if they are creating those perhaps and uploading them uploading them into illuminate I wouldn't know what those are because the control level would be the school or the department or the grade so um you know they it all it all just stems back to to who writes that um and so if there is a is a question that doesn't have a correct answer we would look at that to make sure first it's a good question it's a question that has a right answer and that the assessment tool isn't the reason that that is

134um not not being able to be answered correctly okay I just wanted to make absolutely with this separation there was still going to be that oh absolutely overflow where you know maybe you gave the question and it got input wrong or something like that so I mean we're field testing and doing all of that and and in fact every every year at the end of the year I'm sorry to interrupt you but I just forgot this other important part at the end of the year we look at all of those assessments and we look in and do an item analysis so let's say you know um we'll have a team look at all of the third grade interims and we would look at all of those and we would say is there one question that

135seemed to be marked every student got correct or every student got wrong or a high percentage a higher than we would expect to see got it either right or wrong and let's look at those questions and so those um changes or or re you know after that review process if there's something that needs to be revised then that happen so that it is better the next year thank you thank you great question thank you uh Dr Hall and Sam um I'm interest sorry I just I'm um noticing that our time um at 7:30 uh we've got about an hour and a half left in our prospected you know kind of commitment to maintain three to four hour long meetings um I'd like to close the discussion unless it's a burning burning question Ashley and then

136um we can take a vote um my question would be that I have a constituent who works at the state level who's heard some complaints coming out of our district that we have a backlog of AD research and data requests which are in part because of the breakup of the department can you give us information about the backlog of data requests and how data requests are being managed in this instance sure I would love to do that because um while we have not yet been able to rehire a supervisor over assessment and evaluation who would take that over full-time I have been reviewing those I can tell you right now that we have um approved 21 or two I have uh one that I have sent a request out for additional information they did not

137include all of the required information in their application and I believe I have one that came in today and three more that I need to review so my backlog is 4 and I do not have any that have been received later than February 1 first so I am again not sure where that comes from but I am within two weeks of having anybody reviewed come in nobody has waited longer than two to three weeks which is what we say on the application would be the appropriate amount of time for them to expect a response thank you I'm going to ahead and uh call it for a vote um starting with board member bade moham yes Ryan Jenson yes Amanda longle yes Charlotte 5 Jefferson yes Ash Anderson yes Nate salar yes that motion passes we'll

138revisit it um when we get to the action agenda um the next item um on our discussion agenda is the board calendar I've asked vice president Brian Jensen to to lead this discussion this evening thank you br okay we sent out a d about the board training and um we came back with two dates that were dates that were workable there was April 19th and then there was April 30th I contacted usba um Richard Stole was not able to be there on the 19th and he's an important piece to this so um April 30th I spoke with Richard uh this afternoon and he tells me that April 30th they have it on their calendar and they are planning to be here so if you could put that in your um calendar um what time that

139would be great it would be that 5: to 8:00 p.m. on the doodle pole it told you the time and I'm pretty sure it was 5: to 8 we get a lot of doodle polls okay um we were trying to find this so that would take care of the springtime professional development board training but then we had also talked about um having a board retreat and we've had challenges finding any time in June so in order to put together another doodle pole I wanted to see how you felt because right now when you look at the board calendar we do not have on the on our website a date for our board meeting in July and we don't have one for August I know that in years past we have also done the board retreat

140in August would August be a better month to be looking at I'm seeing some thumbs up okay we're not going to get out our calendars right now but if we put out a doodle poll um in the next week or so looking at dates in August does that it's not on August 13th okay well no not on August 13th that's my birthday is it yeah my anniversary the sixth or the sixth that's my birthday okay okay the six 1 we can have birthday C or we can do it and have birthday cake Brian better be a really good one I would suggest doing what you did on the last fudal poll and put as many options out yeah we will we'll try and have many options thank you Brian um being that um changing or

141adding to the board's calendar requires a vote I would entertain a motion to move this item to the action agenda I'll make a motion to move the items to action agenda all right second any further discussion all right seeing none we'll start with a roll call vote uh with vice president Jensen Brian Jensen yes Amanda longa yes Charlotte 5 Jefferson yes Ashley Anderson yes thanks Salazar yes moham yes all right that motion passes we'll revisit that um the next item on our discussion agenda is the district participation in Unified sports uh Dr Grant I believe we have Emily Southerland with us this evening to present this we do thank you Emily for putting something together here do I have to sit or can I stand you can stand I love to okay great hi everybody

142um I'm happy to be here and talk a little bit about Unified sports okay um while we're getting the presentation up Unified sports just so you know is sponsored by Special Olympics Special Olympics of Utah and it's a sports program for students with disabilities and students without disabilities to participate in sports together so oh we have to go right into mine okay hold on I don't know if I'm ready for that one minute please I wasn't expecting to use my own computer so hold on um nope I'm good good [Music] okay there it is I know what to do it's okay I got it got like eagle eyes yes okay so as I mentioned Unified sports is an opportunity it's a sports program for our students with disabilities and our students without without disabilities to

143um participate in sports together and it is sponsored by Special Olympics of Utah but recently uhsaa has sanctioned four uh Unified sports um which is very exciting and those are soccer basketball track and swimming so that's an exciting development and it really changes uh the way that our district is part is would like to participate in Unified sports um which is why we're presenting it to you all tonight um we have two Comprehensive High Schools currently who are shoot sorry participating um Highland and West and we uh currently we have volunteers um and parents who are helping run the Unified sports program um and using like their personal funds um and to to you know our schools are using some funds to help the program run but it's not a very systemic Approach at this

144point uh we have limited practice facilities our Unified sports programs aren't currently integrated into the rest of our Sports programs like practice facility schedules and rotations um and so you know they have they they have limited facility use at this time and are kind of practicing during school hours and participating when they can and I do want to just uh have throw a shout out to Heather Brown at Highland a parent at Highland who has really helped this program um get established and moved get moved forward at Highland um we do probably have the most robust program at Highland right now and she has put in a ton of time and effort and personal resources to have our students participate so we really want to move the program forward from everything that she has already

145done and our current um parents and and players to to really make the system like adopt the system from a district perspective and um make it just a more robust program that our students can participate in so um again I mentioned that Highland has sort of the most participation right now with uh soccer basketball and track so this means that our athletes at Highland can participate in a Unified sports program um all year because we have soccer in the fall basketball in the winter and track in the spring which is great West has soccer and basketball uh most solidly embedded at the school I know I attended a track meet last spring though at West a unified track meet at West last spring which was amazing to see and um according to their uh their

146current teacher they are also looking to put um bring track on more regularly at West and East we don't have any Unified sports programs at this time but we are going to build that and that's part of why we are doing this to make our Unified sports more consistent across all of our schools and we'll be asking East to start at you know participating in at least one sport next year um if they want to do more than that great but we'll need to help them build that and and get that started over at East and we're not entirely sure which sport they would like to start with yet that's something that we will have to to talk to them about uh so again ultimately I would love to have each of our schools consistently

147participate in all three sports that would give our unified athletes a chance to participate all year regardless of what school they're at we might not quite be there yet in our very first year but hopefully over a couple of years we can get there at all of our schools and we are already there at Highland which is wonderful this is our current participation um at Highland and West so you can see that um you know how many boys are participating and how many girls are participating and then their um gened peers that are participating with them and the total number of athletes there so we feel like in addition to District oversight with Unified sports and and funding that um we think that in order for Unified sports to be more sustainable that we need

148to get our school athletic directors involved um they they are not currently involved in overseeing our Unified sports at the schools again that has been more of a special education um approach and and parent approach uh and also our Administration I know Jeremy has been pretty involved in the Unified sports over at Highland um and so we'd like to see our Administration get involved as well we want to make sure we can actually pay head coaches and assistant coaches like we do um with our other sports programs and we want to have a designated budget and and fee schedule for our Unified sports so that uh on this budget slide so that we can fund equipment we can fund soccer balls and basketballs and we can um get them uniforms and maybe some sweats and

149things like that some gear uh so we would really like to to be able to fund those things so here's a a budget there's an estimated startup cost for all three comprehensive of high schools and we do want to shout out Salt Lake Ed foundation for helping us cover the equipment as part of the startup cost and then we have an ongoing funding below which would of course be coaches pay and transportation um busing and and so on to get to different tournaments and and competitions I know that the fee schedule was presented at the last school board meeting so this is a just a repeat nothing's been changed on this but I did want to add that these fees would be for a full year so if a school participates in three Sports this

150would still be the same fee um if a stud if if they participate in one sport or two sports they would owe a third or 2third of the fee so um and and please keep in mind that this is a a total Fe fee waivers would apply just like they would in any other Sport and um and that certainly schools would not have to charge this much so just like any other fee this would be similar we really just feel like we want to be able to cover in order to make the program more systemic we want to be able to cover the associated costs appropriately Emily I'm so glad you mentioned that I actually was talking with Alan about this earlier today I was at the Highland basketball game um on Friday and a

151parent came up to me asking about the fees um they looked at our agenda and I I'm glad that I assured them that this is just a total of what it could be and that fee waivers still apply um I was a little worried because as I talking to a parent she's like I don't know if my kids can participate and this seems like an exorbitant cost for our family right now and so if we could just make you know an emphasis that this isn't what our students would be paying you know to participate but these are fees associated with it and that the waivers are still you know an option and it's not like every student has to pay this $683 but no and nanii did do some research on this fee we didn't

152just fabricate this this number out of anything um he he looked up uhsa and this was a recommended fee and it's it's by far like the lowest fee um charged for any sport so it's a pretty low it's a pretty low fee I know that that doesn't mean it's not difficult for some families to be able to pay it but yes it it's we're trying to make it reasonable but also be able to fund things like a banquet right um so that or or if they want to have um let's see do I have banners on here on this one I don't think we have banners on this one but Spirit packs team gear things like that so we just want to be able to give all students recognition and acknowledgement for their participation in

153sports just like we would do for um you know a football team or a lacrosse team or something like that thank you well piggybacking off of that like I hear what you're saying thank you Nate for what you're saying because most people know that I've got a daughter with complex disability so this community is very much a community that I'm a part of um and cost can be um very restrictive um even if you not falling within a financial area that you can automatically get like fee waivers um so making it clear the ability for parents to um get the fees waved is huge cuz yes where it may be one of the lowest fees charged whenever like I'll use my child for an example I have a medicine that the gross value is $220,000

154that has to be given to her every two months um and so like wanting to provide your child with these opportunities when families are juggling some pretty um cost prohibitive situations it's it it can you you give up a lot of opportunity for your child so just something as you're going through this and you're working with athletic directors and all of that the realities for families in this situation is a lot different okay than the typical family okay good point taken thank you for sharing that thank um the last uh slide is just our next steps which is that we request that uh the Sol City School District School Board recognized Unified sports as an official Athletics program in Salt Lake City School District equal in nature to other Athletics programs and approve the startup

155and ongoing budgets so that's our our request and then I have a question slide as well if you have any questions yes since we're there um just an extra emphasis to um James jpas and S because they've been extremely willing to step up and help um Propel the trajectory for Unified sports um where it has been sitting on the backs of these parents sacrificing quite a bit to get it to where it is as well as Heather Brown has been phenomenal in that Community there just um is extremely grateful for all of her sacrifice and efforts that she does um the one thing and um I did ask Alan there's kind of a two-part thing one I'd like Alan to explain to the community um the funding source and how the funding source for Unified

156sports compares to the funding source for all Athletics in the district and then when that's done I've got a second question for you do you want me to turn back to the budget or does it not okay so uh I believe it was last meeting we had the school allocations uh budget discussion and showed the school allocations one of the columns was extracurricular activities for our high schools um what we'll do is We'll add the amount that um for the ongoing funding to that column which is property tax funded so property tax U the levy controlled by the board so it's it's it's consistent it's ongoing um so it's a and then we'll add it to that column and then it will be ongoing year after year after year thank you and then the other

157clarification question I had for you Emily um I believe your slide implied this but just want clarification so the um the money piece and the people require piece it's for one coach per school so three coaches and three assistant coaches for each of the schools separately instead of one individual trying to manage all three schools correct so we're requesting um a certain number of coaching days that would be offered just like we do for other sports and uh I think we I think we asked for 14 days for a head coach and nine days for an assistant coach which is similar to um lacrosse and and baseball uh but basically that just that's just a payment equation so yes we're looking for a head coach and an assistant coach um for each school so to

158add on to that you were saying similar to LaCrosse or whatnot however the Unified sports is handling at least two of the schools three Sports yeah so like was that uh money compensation factoring that that individual is actually coaching three Sports not just one I'll have to get clarification on that um from nanii to make sure I know if if that was for the three sports or for just one so let me let me find out on that okay because I think that would be um relevant to we want to compensate them for the amount of time because it is quite a bit of time yeah um I yeah I think that question is basically on hold until we get clarity there because if it's only um funding a person to only do a third

159of the job that's a problem and that's not the intent the intent is to make sure that we're we are compensating we're actually paying somebody to do the job instead of relying on volunteer work or asking a teacher to squeeze in Unified sports amongst their other job duties we want to compensate somebody for doing the work and I just can't remember if the budget is for like one sport or for all three so so I gu ask my question to you all if we don't have Clarity on so this is up this is up for action and we're not certain if we're approving the um monies for a coach to be able to do the whole all three sports or if that we're only approving money enough for one sport but obviously I'm I would

160be interested in this moving forward but we've got incomplete information so can we I guess support it but with a contingency that we get a clarification on the money piece and that's time to you and I might suggest because I was under the person was for the full year okay um but approve the budget request as is and if we need to adjust it we bring that back to the board because it would then require additional resources as I have a question um when we have sanctioned new sports it's been happening you know somewhat frequently over the past couple of years so my question is do athletic directors have the support they need to sustain our existing and our new uhsaa activities and if not what what will athletic directors reasonably need in addition to

161what's outlined here to manage the number of new sports that we've sanctioned or that we've approved in the district which were sanctioned by uhsaa yeah we I we meet with athletic directors regularly and I have not heard specific concerns that they feel feel they're unable to handle like if you know if we approve this and we move forward with this then that would be uh Esports and Unified sports would be sort of the new asks um and I don't know that athletic directors would I mean other than perhaps finding helping with some transportation and stuff for Esports um I'm not really sure that that would be a huge ask on our athletic directors but I can definitely ask them about that and see if they feel like they they need support um so I can

162find out more about that thank you m any any questions for see so I just want to get clarification you're telling us that the total 69,000 for all three high schools that probably needs to be adjusted is that well I'm thinking it does not but so what I'm saying is approve it as as presented and then if we find that it does then we'll bring that back to the board for further discussion I'll entertain a motion to move this to the action agenda I make a mo motion to move this to the action action agenda second um being that we'll have more discussion and we're monitoring our time I'll go ahead and call it for a vote um starting with with you Amanda Amanda lle yes Charlotte F Jeopardy yes Ashley Anderson yes M Salazar

163yes moham yes Ryan Jenson yes all right that motion passes thank you Emily yes thank you uh we'll move on to our next um agenda item which is a training on the school Land Trust um our annual involvement there um Dr gr I believe we have Dr Taylor and oh there's a few folks coming up we have some fine area directors and Title One director coming up excellent thank you do I have to plug good evening everyone good evening I have the opportunity to really invite my team to provide this training for you you in the hands of some great people and I look forward to reviewing and seeing this interaction really hyped you up so pressure better deliver see how I do this test number one there we go okay well um thank you

164for having us today we're happy to bring you this required annual training um so I'm Dr Christine Marriott I'm the the director of title one and school Improvement been in the district a very very long time and uh I taught at Northwest Middle School a long time ago and have been in the district in a couple of other roles as assessment director I've been a principal and assistant principal at a number of different schools and I'm super happy to be back and absolutely thrilled to be on the team that I'm on so thank you colleagues for being here Tracy VY Venter um again I as Christine's mentioned I've been with Salt Lake uh for 20 years and stepped away for a little bit to try some uh different opportunities but glad to be back and

165glad to be here to help share this information with you I am Lisa young I am one of the four area directors I support about half of our elementary schools this is my second year in Salt Lake City School District um so two of about 25 in education different roles but I am thrilled to be here and I love the opportunity to support our principles okay so our purpose tonight is again to provide you this required annual training uh in particular about the school Land Trust program um we will be reviewing your responsibilities as board members in relation to the school community councils and again specifically the land trust program so we're going to share this process for your review this year when you're receiving the uh plans uh make sure you understand the timelines

166and what the task and your role is and uh you can ask questions as we go or at the end um and we'll take it away from there do this yeah okay so the school Land Trust funding comes to our district and uh the first large chunk of land trust funding gets divided up all of the school districts with a base funding formula uh that's about 10% of it and then the remaining 90% is per pupil so the larger districts get a little more but not really more per pupil in total um it is quite a large amount of funding it's been coming every year for as long as I've been in Utah it's just a very useful and uh purposeful piece of funds so it's great that we're continuing to receive it uh and

167so we'll go pass it off to Lisa so what does that mean for Salt Lake City School District about $3 million an increase of almost $96,000 for the 2425 school year an important part of our land trust uh program is the school community council members and we've got some members here listed of course our princip principal who serves but is not elected then we've got our parent Guardian members and they must have children enrolled at the school for at least one of those two years and they are elected by their peers they're elected by parents and Guardians and then we also have school employee members and they have to be employed at the school and elected by School Employees and there is a ratio to we need to have more parents than School Employees to

168have a full Council we also um have our responsibilities of the council so the first uh bar across the top there is of course just adopting The Rules of Order and procedur so that they can have a successful meeting and then as we move on WE recognize that there are there's a role for that Community Council to advise and make recommendations listed there you'll see what those recommendations are so different programs making decisions about uh how the school may make decisions about um how to roll out different efforts for supporting their students um the also the safe walking route is part of uh uh Community Council and the recommendations and this was really an important part this last year when we had school closures that that Community Council needed to step in and help us

169create new safe walking routs uh we looked at sa student safety and the council weighs in on that and other issues as well that might deal with some specific Community involvement or environment or support that would help our students learn the last section you can see there is with our school Land Trust plan and this is something that is uh mandatory for the community council to actively participate in advise and make recommendations for that Land Trust plan and then they vote to approve that final plan and once they've got that vote they sign the assurances also not only saying that they voted but that they were actively involved in developing that Land Trust plan as they move forward okay we have a great video from usbe land trust and I'm happy to play it now

170but I'm not sure if I know we uh invited you to watch that on your own uh it's available all the time so we don't have to play that now um we can skip over it and then you have that available as a resource for you it's a fun little video okay so uh your timeline this year is you will be receiving land trust and school Improvement plans from each School uh on April 15th at the board meeting on April 15th you will have about one week to review the plans that are assigned to you uh you'll provide feedback to schools by April 22nd and then the schools the principal with their committee and their uh SEC members have time to make some adjustments if needed and then you will receive those plans back again

171with those adjustments uh you'll get those on May 6 and we would ask that at that time you'll be ready to vote to uh approve those plans the land trust plans are due to usbe no later than May 15th so we don't have any extra weeks built in we've given schools as much time as we possibly can to generate their plans and uh our goal is to get all of those approved plans off to usbe Land Trust on time by May 15th the one exception to this timeline is that charter schools in Utah have an an accelerated timeline for their approval so we have two Charter schools that's Salt Lake Center for Science Education slicky high school and open classroom uh and in those cases for the land trust portion of their plan you will

172be receiving those two schools Land Trust plans on March 18th you'll have that one week opportunity to provide feedback and then when you receive th those plans on April 15th we would ask that those two schools have their land tress portion approved on that day uh and that is because the state uh requires charter schools to have their Landress plans finalized by May 1st so that is your timeline it's a little bit choppy just slightly different with those Charters um on April 15th you'll have access to a folder with all of the school Land Trust plans and school Improvement plans you will have your reviewer assignments you will have access to a a copy or a scanned copy of the council signature form from each school and then you'll also have a review form that

173you can use to provide feedback to those schools so each one of you will be reviewing uh a number of plans every school will have two reviewers and uh they'll have the opportunity to receive that feedback from two board members uh we gave you your assignments you can see so in a couple of weeks you'll be starting to receive these plans um we do have just a couple of adjustments that have been made to these reviewer assignments uh one of those is I just want you to note that Sky View Academy does not receive Land Trust funding so Sky View won't have a Landress plan for approval uh but they will have a school Improvement plan question so far okay in that backup you'll have the plan review form for both the land trust plan

174and the full School Improvement plan you would review the land trust plan separately using this form the rubric here is aligned to the trust program assurances so that when you assure we assure and then the land trust team at usbe would have the same assurances and as Lisa mentioned we have worked hard to build this process into one cycle so you have the land trust piece that will be there that will require your review and assurances but also we will have our full School Improvement plan connected to that so that L trust will be embedded into um the school Improvement plan and will have also its uh state required forms but you can see this format is slightly different and this is for the overall School Improvement plan and again just has you mark yester

175or no for all the followings that uh is an assurance that you have seen and uh reviewed those and that they are present so that will be a second piece on your reviewing sheet okay so this is just kind of a rehash of the timeline uh the point of this slide is that as you review the land trust plans and the full School Improvement plan uh and have those approved plans done by May 15th that allows us to provide the full School Improvement plans to usbe by their deadline of June 30th so that is the program any questions Ashley um yes I have two questions um the first is how does the district expect that the land exchange that was Advanced by Senator Curtis will impact our schools like will that timeline affect this year's

176Land Trust allocation we have not been made aware of any issues that so it wouldn't be an issue it would be more money so it's an exchange of lands environmentally sensitive lands are exchanged it's how underg grand staircase we had like the biggest growth in Land Trust so my question is not will there be problems it's will we see new money soon or do we expect that it would take a long time and if there's not an answer oh you yes so we've received the allocations and generally once they've given us they do not change them again for next year so any change will be like the year after and my second question is um to you board president salar which is when will we be reviewing Our obligation to address ongoing and ubiquitous requests

177I've asked about this in the last four meetings where Land Trust was discussed and we've yet to have that discussion um I'm not sure I think um I have to go back and listen to the notes and the minutes and whatnot um and it might be best um if we go through the formal process to to have that be an agenda item um already done that we haven't done it and it's not I shouldn't have to request it it's our statutory obligation okay um vice president Jens and I are going to have to you know meet and discuss when we can get that on an agenda then okay great thanks welcome any other questions can I just follow up Ashley what do you want to explore on that um we have an obligation in statute

178to look at when requests are the same year-over-year and trying to find ways to include those in our budget so it's not something I want to do it's something we are obligated to do to understand if we're paying for you know 90% of our requests are for academic interventionists it's our job as a board to say how can we actually just fund academic intervention because all Land Trust plans should ideally be more distinct from one another and when they're not it's our role to say how are we putting all of this in our budget and that's part of our job in evaluating these plans thank you I have a question do you know what state statute that is I don't have the number um it's in some of the land trust training videos that are

179available not the this one but it's I can find it and send it to you okay any other questions all right see then we'll move on thank you to our area director team and Dr Taylor um our next item on the discussion agenda is reconfigure nible Park as a k36 school Dr Grant do you want to introduce us sure and I'm going to invite um our team up of Kesley green our principal and D Miller our area director and I believe Dr Tiffany Hall are you staying up there as well thank you Dr Taylor you can stay right there maybe we require that you stay right there um so there was in the Middle School report the recognition that um our students in seventh and eth grade at nibbly Park are receiving a different kind

180of education than our students in seventh and e8th grade across our middle schools this has been on the district's radar for a long time um and I know that um it's been a matter of concern among some teachers uh and certainly some leaders in the district and so want to bring that forward we're in this funny period though between being under a old G5 policy or a current G5 policy which allows the superintendent to make grade level reconfigurations the new G5 policy as written and presented by the policy committee um has a different process for dealing with grade level reconfigurations so what I wanted to do is to bring to the board um the question of which direction would you like me to move as superintendent under the old G5 policy or the new G5

181policy and I wanted to just make sure that I am recognizing your role in making policy and making these decisions and so didn't want to move forward under the existing G5 policy because we're in this odd interim period um considering a new one so didn't want to um step tooo far without your support and moving in a particular direction so to help think about this so um under the old policy uh it again is the superintendent's discretion to move forward with these things under the new policy we would have um a conversation in board meeting if we if it is supported by the board to move forward we'd bring it back for second conversation in board meeting um as well as a chance to bring public comment to the board so and then under the

182new G5 we would complete that process by the end of March so we can with this move in either Direction that's what I wanted to try and offer you is that we're following along the new G5 policy by bringing this to you now um but can also move in the other direction but I wanted to give you some background on this so you have more knowledge about it and appreciate principal green for being here um and for having the many conversations that you've had within your building about this as um you've taken on the leadership of nible Park so with that we have this presentation and I'll turn it to you guys to provide some background here to the board okay thank you this is um just a little bit of background around some of

183these things I'd like to begin with just some some information that Mr Miller and I actually dug out of some very old well not very old cuz I was aive at this time but um some uh board agendas and other documentation that we actually found as we were shutting down the old building in some files around how nible Park became a K8 school and there was quite a bit of planning and discussion for this and during that discussion the vision for nibi Park was always that it would be or that would include a very robust seventh and eth grade program with about 150 students and about eight or more faculty that would be providing that seventh and eighth grade curriculum to students um first year that this program went into play was 2007 they started

184with just seventh graders 30 of them and the data here show the number of seventh and eighth graders over time to date and one of of the things that you'll notice is that the program has never reached that dream of 150 7th and eighth graders at the school which of course as you know impacts the number of FTE that are placed there at the school um currently we looked at our numbers at nibbi Park and you'll see that we have in sixth grade we've got 44 gened students that is not including our DLI program that was moved there this year that currently has 18 students and the sixth graders do not stay for the seventh and eth grade years for DLI they move on to Clayton so we're not including them in our total um

185as far as our seventh graders we've got 45 students for a total of 89 sixth and seventh graders um and and the other piece to that is that the K8 model only serves the gened students in that building it doesn't serve the DLI students it doesn't serve the essential element students either um the next slide shows what our our middle school program in other schools around the district and what our state is asking us to provide uh gives you the layout there and currently at nibble Park we've got three teachers uh teaching seventh and eth grade uh teaching math language arts and science most teachers are teaching three to four preps they're teaching science 6 science 7 science 8 Health sometimes another elective or a tier 2 class um which can be burdensome on a

186teacher and that uh and in addition the schedule that Kesley put in this year um does allow for our students to have access to health digital literacy and CCA daily whereas prior years it was weekly uh which was more of an elementary model students also are getting uh music PE art and library at a once a week which is more of an elementary model whereas if they were in a middle school model they would have access to those other classes daily um as we dove into that schedule and looked at a little bit more nibbly Park is a unique K8 school and over the years our seventh and eighth grade enrollment has remained small this has present significant ch challenges in providing a comprehensive Middle School experience with only a handful of teachers for these

187grades our students have limited access to courses offering compared to their peers at traditional middle schools honors courses World languages and full range of CTE pathways are simply not possible with the current structure some members of my community value the small school setting and feel that when the district introduced the K8 model 20 years ago it was not intended to mirr the the traditional middle school and these families like the idea of this smaller School however as a public school we also have a responsibility to ensure that all students receive an equitable access to educational opportunities the reality this is excuse me the reality is that meeting these Middle School course requirements with our current structure is challenging our limited sta staff means that some teachers are teaching multiple Preps and students do not have

188access to the range of courses available at a traditional Middle School this creates a fundamental conflict between the original vision for nibbly Park K8 um and the um and excuse me and the academic expectations placed on Middle School students today through this process I've worked hard to be transparent as possible with all my stakeholders acknowledging both the benefits and the challenges we face my role to present these realities honestly and to advocate for the needs of our students uh last we just want to recognize that the students um attending nibbly Park they are in Hillside boundaries um that's their boundary School however if they choose if they were interested in a different School Clayton or a neighboring Glendale or Bryant middle school they have access to open enrollment that they could apply to any of

189those schools as well any questions for nibbly team Ashley do students at nibble Park show lower academic performance or preparation for high school than their counterparts goe that um so not in the three tested subjects we have looked at Ela Math and Science and there isn't an appreciable difference in those subjects between uh students moving from nibbly to high school from one of our traditional middle schools to high school I think one of the questions is though is in our untested subjects such as music or Arts drawing uh any of those areas that perhaps they haven't had that comprehensive um experience in fact we were thinking today about music in particular art in particular um in a traditional Middle School a student taking even a semester of an art class would have roughly 90 hours

190of instruction over a semester um where a student in an art class in e8th grade um at nibbly might have 45 minutes once a week over a year so a significantly smaller amount of time but we don't have good ways of measuring those of course because we don't have that that data around them that makes a lot ofense sense um and another question is this was alluded to in an email about this and then also a little bit in terms of what recruitment there would need to be to make it more robust are all of the current s eight teachers at nibble Park licensed to teach secondary school I actually asked Logan Hall to prepare an answer on that so I'm gonna call him up thank you L absolutely that's a good question all of

191our teachers are certified to teach uh what's unique about a middle school is that the state of Utah offers two different types of licensure for just basic licensure for classroom teachers either a k through eight Elementary license or a grade 6 through 12 secondary license the teachers who teach in the seventh and eighth grade program at nibble Park have a mixture of of both in order to teach in um a middle school model uh one has to have either license but you need to have endorsements in the particular cont uh uh subject specific content area that they're instructing in and so the the teachers that are working in this program either do have a secondary or an elementary license that covers um like I said K through six or or sorry K through 8 or

192grades 6 through 12 um but in addition to that we've ensured that they have additional licensure endorsements to cover the the subject specifics that they they are required to to teach does that answer all your question yeah that's really helpful terrific um I have one more question which is starts with a reminder that you know maybe not everyone would know this but the district did invest a lot of money to make nibl a K8 it's not that nibi existed and it ended up housing seven and eight students but investment was made to add on to make the building substantially larger so should nibi conclude 78 offerings what would the plan be for additional space or how does that intersect with your question about G5 and how to proceed um I'd like to make the you

193know when we did School closure we were careful to try and keep any sort of use for the property separate from the decision um there are space needs that we have for classroom space within the district so that would be a place of consideration so there's some ways that um I think the space can be well used but I if you don't mind I don't I would rather keep that until we make a decision that's a little bit separate if that feels okay to you it does and it would what that makes me move toward is believing that aligning with the new G5 procedures will be most prudent because that would allow for space use as established by the board so just as one opinion I think aligning with the new procedures would allow us

194to get from start to finish of this recommendation in the most productive way that does account for some of the space considerations as well thanks Ashley any other questions Amanda um I can't remember a particular Community comment but I mean Ashley kind of summed up where the new G5 would be more prudent regardless but I did have a Community member talk about adding on modular units at ni Park um to give the kids their um more robust access if I can remember exactly how it was so U maybe once Things Are removed that may be less relevant but it's kind of curious that that would even be a need if there was a add-on to that building so I wonder how much Extra Spaces actually um would be available I don't need this answered but

195it's just something that was commented on in this uh in this process as I've been receiving a lot of um Community concerns and inputs from input from students parents teachers I'm getting the whole array um Amanda may I just ask on that the first part of that I thought was about programming for kids is that what you were mentioning I think that was what it was and I'm and I could go to the emails it really I don't really feel like I need to get into okay the details of it when we can talk more about it after okay because I can pull that up specifically but it was curious that that individual kind of even would threw that out as a suggestion if we really um if if there was additional space added to

196that building specifically for this project so um I think you mean more space than there is now we'll go into that later okay thanks um I was just going to turn the question yeah answer something the ultimate question you're asking is whether we should use the the old G5 or the new G5 so we'll get there to that one um but I did want to say to is it Kesley that it was great that you acknowledged the community's desires for wanting to continue the 7 to8 because that's what I'm hearing as well um and obviously as you pointed out there's a balance there and there's um other things and as I've communicated back to the community um that you know we'll do our best to weigh what they're um their concerns are as we're also

197having to juggle the overarching needs of the district um um I am very concerned that I was not aware I am going over to nibble Park tomorrow um but it is concerning that students with disabilities are not able to access the 78 program whenever they um are accessing the K through six um so that um is an issue for me um but ultimately getting to the same place that Ashley did is uh my recommendation is also that we um use the um New G5 that's in process to where we give um the opportunity for Community feedback and also I also wanted to strongly emphasize the the current version that is up for potential another amendment based on some additional suggestions and asks that I had um one of the consistent asks that I have is

198that we make these decisions early enough in the current year that it isn't leaving families teachers Etc in Al Lurch because we're making them so late in the school year so the the current version of the proposed G5 I think if you stated and I could pull it here says by March 30th then we can still enact this for the upcoming school year and as a parent I would be pissed I if I'm finding out at that at this point regardless of any kind of concessions and supports that the district is giving the oh what I've got to completely configure what I'm doing for my students my family everything this late in the school year when open enrollment started in December just no if at this late in the process this should be for a

199decision for not 25 26 but for 26 27 I don't think I have any questions okay can I I appreciate um Ashley and Amanda your thoughts about um relying on the proposed G5 revisions that I mean the policy committee has worked on this for a long time one of the things that I do want to clarify though um um Amanda is under the current policy the superintendent can do this at her discretion okay the new revisions are providing for that March 30th time frame I know that each of you did receive a copy of that and there are three parts to it there's um part A where the superintendent makes a recommendation there's Part B um if the board approves that recommendation then they move forward with it being brought to a public meeting and

200a board meeting which would well not suggest which would require that this would have to be done in the next board meeting in order to meet meet the March 30th deadline okay I just want it to be that we're understanding that when we're following the revisions that we're still in the process of approving um that's what we would be doing and I myself think that that's the approach that we should take um we were trying to address these types of concerns in the policy committee when we were developing these revisions and then I appreciate um hearing from well all of you that the teachers do have the necessary licenses and endorsements to be providing what is absolutely required for middle school students thank you all right well I still think the question before the board

201is providing the superintendent with some direction um I I will say that I and I express this um to to Brian and to the superintendent that a little nervous of following a procedure that the board hasn't adopted yet um but I also recognize that you know the superintendent has discretion here too and I appreciate you you know bringing this to the board um just to make sure that we're in a good spot um in the discussion relative to the topic but um but we are still here today to you know kind of give some direction to the super in I don't think we necessarily need to make a vote um but um nonetheless um we do need to give list some direction about how she should move forward how she would like to move forward

202so um I'm hearing a couple of folks who mentioned that um you know the potentially new G5 administrative procedures is what we should follow um are there any other differing opinions on that um as the discussion has gone yeah I do I do share your concern in terms of um you know applying a policy that we have not yet voted for and adopt you know currently we do have a policy that's in there until we vote for the other one then we can apply it it's just like you know uh but at the same time I have no idea what are the ramifications of using the policy that we have not voted for yet in making such a big decision before move on the second I mean it would just be us asking Dr Grant

203to um follow the the spirit of of us if we intend to if I mean to to go by the the new one that will be adopted very soon you know oh potentially well and additionally the new the proposed G5 is actually meant to do right for the by being more prudent point of order of you just have to the speaker was not recognized by the president I'll accept the point of order do you have anything else to add no Amanda we'll start round two oh and just apologies words but just to emphasize that the new the proposed G5 is to do better to do right for the community and so that's what I believe all of us want to do is to do right for the community and so you know emphasizing you know

204Grant coming to all of us to ask and the general I feel that we all feel strongly we want to do right and this is what we are reiterating is why we're wanting to go the route of the proposed G5 as we're working through the nuances of it so just to clarify Muhammad that that's why we're leaning that direction and perhaps I can share that if we do move in that direction and and that's the will of the board then um in the next meeting we would have public comment we'd put it on as a discussion item for the board and in between also um principal green has held a time for us to do an open house at the school so there's not just one moment for parents to express their wishes and interests

205but rather we can hold that as well which we were thinking next week I believe 12 yeah the 12th um so that we are trying to to get some feedback from families that are involved in this as well I'm so I guess back to the the question um you know how do we want to direct superintendent um move forward again we have two to follow the potentially new G5 um and then there's been some comments I'm I'm good either way but um but nonetheless I just want to make sure that um Dr Grant you have what you need to move forward um thanks so I'm supportive of you and and either um the current you5 or the potentially any one are you needing us to make a motion I don't think we need to make

206a motion on this one relative to the superintendent's discretion to make the decision but um it was important for Liz to bring it to us so that we could be okay with what she um could we take a temperature check to see yeah straw pole about oh I was thinking about will we do we think we're going to pass the new G5 policy or sorry the procedures both to the policy element of it stick to the original question being that G5 isn't on the agenda okay this evening except in this context um but I think I would feel more comfortable keeping it to the question okay so a straw poll about this G5 potentially new do you Mohamed um my question is to the superintendent um you know from your own um you know literally

207speaking which one would work best because you know the concern we have is we want to make sure the community is aware of what's going on but also there is a town hall you know that's going to actually give a bit of a time and more feedback and information to the community so that's a hard one to answer I don't know what is best um certainly it's simplest for me to move forward um and and have those public engagements and things like that um but again I didn't want to overstep I know the board's interest is clear in the proposed G5 and so didn't want to overstep that um I would certainly land usually on the most simple one I don't know that that's the most the best in terms it depends on what stakeholder

208you are perhaps in this process so that's a little bit hard sorry I gave you I'm giving pretty pretty wimpy answers here no it was good rather than some clarity but I okay I hope that's helpful y so we do drw p do a drw p um for board members that would like to direct the superintendent to use the current model uh please give a thumbs up uh board members who would like to direct the superintendent to use the potentially new adopted model please give it a thumbs up superintendent you got your direction I do thank you so what we'll do is put this on the agenda for the 18th we'll um invite the public to come and give comment we'll have a special set aside time so we'll probably overlap that with the fee

209schedule um so that we have a Time certain so families are aware of when they they don't have to sit here all day um and they can speak perhaps as long as they would like well in terms of how much time we give we restrict the amount of minutes for each person but um not restrict the amount of time in total and then we'll also hold a open house at nibi Park and um thank you Kesley thanks for your work on this thank you nible team thank you our next agenda item um moving through this as quickly as we can um consideration of a resolution authorizing the issuance and sale of up to 155 million dollar of General obligation bonds and providing for related matters um Alan do you take this right so the the

210public voted to authorize uh $730 million bonds as we discussed in in multiple of those Bond conversations uh we don't um issue all those bonds at once you know we kind of need the money as as the construction projects go along um we talked about you know fiveyear period of you know a fifth a fifth a fifth so we are planning on selling the first Bond issuance here um probably in May and what this document does is set forth the parameters really the maximum amount of the first Bond issuance which is$ 155 um million um we may end up issuing a little bit under that but the parameters say that is the maximum that we would issue in this first round um to kind of help fund these construction projects as they get underway uh

211and with that we need um you know board approval I want to look at my financial advisor and bond Council back there is there anything I'm missing just a reminder this will twep process that you have one other resolution to adopt just starts in April I believe the second one's in April correct uh so with that looking for board approval to uh um approve the parameters that are on the document any discussion or a motion I'll entertain a motion to move this to action I'll make a motion to move this to action second all right we have a motion to Second any discussion okay seeing now we'll start with the roll call Vote with uh Charlotte Charlotte F Jefferson yes Ashley Anderson yes Nate Salazar yes moham yes ran Jensen yes Amanda Longwell yes all

212right that motion passes we'll move on to the action agenda it is jam-packed um and we're going to try to have a a stop time of 9 tonight um I know that goes a little bit over than our commitment but um but nonetheless uh we do have a number of things to go through the first uh three items were moved off of the taable section um that were from the consent agenda consent agenda from our previous meeting um which are the core Technologies LLC the kick up Incorporated MGT of America um I don't believe I'm allowed to batch them in our procedures but I would move that we approve core Technologies LLC as posted on the past consent agenda okay we have a motion as there a second I'll second um core Technologies um we

213have a motion a second any discussion seeing none I'll call for a roll call vote uh starting with Ashley Anderson Ashley Anderson yes Nate Salazar yes moham yes Brian Jensen yes Charlotte F jepperson yes and then Amanda did you want to vote on oh sorry Amanda along us all right that motion passes um I would additionally move that we approve the MGT of America Consulting LLC expenses posted on a past consent agenda we have a motion in the there second second second all right got a a second any discussion all right seeing none we'll start with a roll call vote uh with myself Nate Salazar yes moham yes Ryan Jensen yes Amanda long yes Charlotte F jepperson yes Ashley Anderson yes all right that passes um we still have the kick up Incorporated I have

214a question about that if I may um my question about the kick up is that if you look at our past meeting when we approv that expense we were told it was the second time and we would have an evaluation of the program before we were asked to approve it again so my question is why we did that step out of order and when we would why we don't have a report before being asked to approve the expense again would we direct that to Allan or to the superintendent I think Allan superintendent okay sorry um Dr Hall do you have anything to add I would just say um I think somehow we missed that that was the board Direction was that the will of the board at the time to do that it was verified

215in an email that you would do it so I don't know that the whole board agreed but in our procedures if someone asked for it and no one objects it's considered an ask and then it was reverified in email and the ask for the evaluation I can find the email I guess but it was it was there specific about it it was there had been some faculty complaints about the expense when we had approved it on two prior consent agendas so it was what are we spending this money on and how did faculty perceived the use of kiup and was it working before renewing I can certainly provide that inform absolutely and ashy do you want that information now or is later okay I mean we we have to move on now so I would

216say I would stand by not approving an expense would we were told a report would come before being asked to approve it but I don't know from Dr Hall the the urgency with which we need to approve this request and if there was time in the subsequent meeting to provide the information that was um requested is there an urgency um I believe if we did it at the next meeting I would the company would not me out but could they I guess and the report could come by email perhaps it need not be a board on the board agenda I think that'd be fine if it was a memo evaluating the program and explaining the impacts of the expense okay great thank you Dr Hall so we'll revisit this at the next meeting y okay

217um moving on um the next item on our action agenda is the district reorganization um I know there's been some discussion back and forth um we heard from Dr Hall and Sam about you know Brian and other board members questions regarding assessment um but I I do feel like we're at a a spot now we're since on the action G I'll entertain a motion so we can further discussion I move that we put this on the action agenda I'm sorry what approve oh I move that we approve the reorg I second got a motion and a second on the table open it up for discussion actually I'll just explain my vote um as of this afternoon I've heard from 56 faculty and staff who've asked me to oppose this if the district office can't pump

218the breakes to respond to questions and concerns or to provide evidence supporting the recommendation I thought a lot about something the superintendent said in our last meeting um Dr Grant you said you didn't know how we would hear from people concerned about reorganization if they were fearful of retaliation in their workplace hierarchy and I believe that the answer is us and to that end 56 staff members in our district reached out to me because they knew that there was a representative of their neighborhood or the neighborhood of their school who could not retaliate against them and some of the concerns they presented to me were specific and they include the associate superintendent in the proposal has no reports which is not best practice Librarians will fall under stem and report to the current math director

219family members have supervisory roles over other family members social studies Falls in what some have complained is catchall category rather than being aligned with Ela as it is in the k6 core the restructuring of assessment has caused some substantial problems um as reported by people in the department and they also wanted to know why we weren't presented with examples of other successful organizational charts that board member Jensen requested in the last meeting some of the other questions posed by faculty and staff were quite broad does have that's not been three minutes right does having it's fine does having much more top- down structure benefit classrooms does this align with our district values why have we yet to have a discussion about the benefits to students what problems does this reorganization intend to address and why

220have the board and staff ignored the research that shows some of the problems with this recommendation I also have Financial questions which I feel have not been sufficiently addressed and I believe the reorganization will be fiscally irresponsible because it ignores best practices for direct reports that set us up for inflated costs and a series of promotions the promotions that we would be approving for teaching and learning pave the way for the same types of promotions in school leadership where the number of direct reports in the recommendation far outpaces best practice as one more reminder before tonight our board has spent 48 total minutes discussing this proposal we've spent more time this year discussing our calendar it's a dangerous predent to spend so little time discussing something so consequential for students and even more dangerous to

221move a proposal forward when no evidence has been presented as to the efficacy of the decision thank you Ashley I just wanted to um add the information that was sent by email um responding to a great many of those issues not all of them that you have named that provided information relative to that related to those questions and I believe um provided answers on those thank you any further discussion we yeah charlot I didn't know about the 56 staff who had contacted you that would have probably been good to know um or they should have contacted us too I haven't heard from anybody so has any have any of the other board members heard from anybody no okay I I've heard from two two thanks well there's two things I want to point out one

222to answer your question Charlotte I mentioned it earlier but I did specifically email slasa and said please send out to the community please reach out to me if there's any concerns um and no concerns were relayed I reached out to siia like I made a concerted effort to reach out to the community all the stakeholders and I pretty much got crickets other than well I guess to answer your question there was one um and so I what I've heard is let's move forward um and then Additionally the board asked Dr Grant to specifically have a um let me find the title so I say it correctly um an associate superintendent in instead of what um she was proposing a different position Chief of Staff sorry what Chief of Staff Chief of Staff thank you um

223which cost more money to have that position um so so I just find it ironic the frustration about added expenses um in this org chart whenever the board asked for a position that is a comes at a higher price tag um so I mean those are I guess we all know where we all stand so we just need to figure out how to move forward thank you Amanda any other discussion points we can move into round two I would provide one more point oh Brian did you want to go for round one you can finish yours I was just going to provide a clarification that um one FTE is not considered a financial cost savings and the kind of cost increases I'm talking about are large cascading institutional increases that we're also approving as part

224of this the only way we're saving money is on the back of equity we are eliminating an equity office and that is the only cost savings we have and I would say again for anyone confused about the perspective that I've raised it's because we have steamrolled this decision instead of having a normative discussion with a process and the only other comments I would make is I did implore board leadership to establish a process by which we established a certain number of discussion periods we would have and we have not been able to do that and any confusion anyone has I think lies on as a responsibility of having less than one hour to discuss this item in total I just have a couple of questions and the first one was and we don't have the

225slides up in front of us but when you look at the slides it shows that there was a reduction in expenditures and that it would be a $98,000 um reduction but um that as Ashley was saying comes to by eliminating the executive director of equity but my question is um when you do that will you because there's going to be an equity director that will need to be hired to report to Dr Lisa if I'm reading that correctly so that expense will then be added back in no no that's an already that's an that's already allocated Y and we've actually posted that I believe um yes we have we've actually received applications for that role because that was the same role that's been in the district for some time okay and then I don't know

226necessarily the best way to explain this but with the um different positions that are now um reporting to um Dr Taylor will they because of added responsibilities will are we going to be looking at that we'll need to increase their um lane or their pay or do you understand understand what I'm saying yes and um The Way Board member Anderson had raised This was um there are a number of direct reports under Dr Taylor um more than in some literature says is appropriate um as Dr Taylor has explained and I shared with the board in writing that um those positions being senior positions require some less supervision and things and there are circumstances where that's just fine and and and an office hierarchy the concern would be that if that becomes unwieldy then we would

227go to more of a hierarchical model which may put some people under others and then the person at the top May then get a boost of salary moving from a director three to a director two or director two to a director one kind of thing those salaries um are at about $2 to $3,000 a year is the difference between director levels if I got that about right Logan somewhere in there um so that a future change board member Anderson was concerned May cost us more but not current as set up right now but rather if there were a need to change that structure it would cost more right so I was trying to make sure I was understanding because I saw the qu and I saw your response but it's helpful to have that additional

228explanation that there could be like a two or $3,000 increase you know with some of those positions and I I think in the past I've said I'm just I'm anxious to be seeing significant increases in administrative um positions and you've explained that yeah that this does not do that okay all right um I'll go ahead and call this for a vote um starting with board member Longwell oh yeah I just wanted to um just comment on the equity position I mean we board member Anderson said that we would be doing this reorg on the back of equity and that you know that doesn't that doesn't feel too good um but I I do know that you talked about putting Equity all the way through not just in one one department but all departments but could

229you tell us how you would do that so there is in the ecap expectations where our evaluation of leaders there is an there is an expectation of making decisions based on equity and attending to issues of equity that that's part of the leadership expectation um the other pieces I had argued is there are two schools of thought one says that by making a separate Equity office you make it more important another says by embeding Equity within the core of the work you make it more important I'm of the mindset that embedding it in the core of the work makes it more important and so they're placing it with school leadership ties that work directly with schools and provides an accountability mechanism that way so that somebody in a different office isn't asking somebody in another

230office to do something but rather that's part of the direct accountability within the leadership office so that's the um kind of the theory of action I guess that I'm moving forward on in setting up this recommendation okay can I follow up on that um how would we how would an area director um keep that as a priority though if it's not um W would it get diluted with all their other responsibilities how is that going to be a PRI I mean it's our part of our mission right it's our yeah so so and and could we have both like could you have if you had be a reason to have both is that you mean positions um not both position I mean if you had an equity director but you also had it embedded throughout

231it seems like it should be I I I think I'm arguing two things here okay one is as you said having it across the organization it is a leadership expectation across the organization and that's part of how we operate now the other piece is where within a district organization does that chair sit and so that's the one where I'm making the argument that I think it's actually more powerful if they're sitting at the table with area directors talking about the priorities of the district and the the pieces of implementation that have to happen that we strengthen their hand when they're sitting at that table which is what Dr Taylor's going to hold that table with those people together so I'm sorry I I forgot about that position had been moved and yeah okay okay thanks

232Char great I'll go ahead and call for a vote starting with board member Longwell Amanda Longwell yes sure Charlotte F jepperson yes Ashley Anderson no Nate Salazar yes muhamed bade yes Ryan Jensen yes and I will just add that we also had opportunities to talk with um superintendent Grant in meetings with her in her office so when when we talk about um the time that we've spent in board meetings there's that time but then there were also times when you arranged for us to come and be able to meet with you and I I appreciate having had that time as well thank you thank you Brian um we have three items left um the first one is uh the board calendar I'll accept a motion um to add uh April 30th 2025 5 to 8

233to the board calendar I move that we add April 30th from 5: to 8:00 pm to the board calendar a second all right we got a motion and a second on the table any discussion seeing none we'll start with a roll call Vote with Charlotte sure Charlotte F Jefferson yes Ashley Anderson yes Nate Salazar yes Mohamed yes Ryan Jensen yes Amanda long yes that passes um up next is Unified sports I motion I make a motion to approve Unified sports second motion second discussion yes in getting out of the habit of saying we approve a thing without saying what that means is saying approve Unified sports actually a clear statement could you clarify it mean like Emily's left as presented is that helpful or how about well when it's as presented what we found for

234instance approved District participation in Unified sports along with the requested um the budget the requested budget commanda will you reframe the the motion please thank you Ashley can you insert my voice into your he's not a board member but Christina I'll MIM you say it I make a motion to uh approved District participation in District participation and the budget Unified sports and the budget and UniFi Sports along with the requested budget along with the requested budget thanks second any discussion seeing then we'll take it to a vote starting with board member Anderson Ash Anderson yes Nate Salazar yes moham yes Brian Jensen yes Amanda Longwell yes yes Charlotte F jepperson yes all right motion passes and thank you Ashley for clarifying that we have had problems in the past when we're not clear about that

235that's valuable yeah our last is um our bond um consideration uh authorizing the issuance and sale of up to 155 million do I'll entertain a motion I move that we adopt the consideration of a resolution authorizing the issuance and sale of up to $155 million of General obligation bonds and providing for related matters there second a second motion a second any further discussion all right seeing none we'll start with a roll call Vote with Ashley Ashley Anderson yes Nate Salazar yes Mohamed yes Ryan chenson yes Amanda long yes Charlotte F Jefferson yes that motion passes that concludes our action agenda um we will move on to reports yes and I'm going to try and be fast but there were so many good things things I am sorry I'll try and be quick on this first

236of all the West High girls basketball team and the Highland High boys basketball team both played in the finals yeah of the state championships and um it was a disappointing night but actually pretty impressive that they were there and congrats to them we're going to find some time to give them recognition and board meeting um West High School's Kathy Bernard has been named again this is just kind of amazing the 2025 foreign language teacher of the year for the state of Utah pretty impressive and so we'll find some time to celebrate that we had four of our national board certified teachers who were Rec national board certified teachers were recognized at the legislature um our four members of the leadership team are from Salt Lake City School District John Arthur Tony zany Carrie Johnson and

237Emily Petty um another celebration here Olivia Aila a program specialist in our Community Education after school program has been named a Next Generation Honore by the National Association of national After School Association um so impressive there a West High student Brunell tsen uh will repes represent West High School at the state poetry out loud competition um in just a few days performing uh at the Mid Valley Performing Art Center um she won last week in in our regional competition and um there are she will represent the state at the national finals in DC um in May so pretty impressive she asked to recite three poems for memorization to compete um East High swimmer Glenn Tanner took home the state championship title last month in the hunter Mito freestyle that's pretty great um our welding teacher

238at West High School Denise heavner was made a UK you sorry at Highland did I say something else yeah you said West wow that was weird um because I love this program at Highland High and what she's built there she is a Utah Hockey Club nominee um as the most valuable teacher and um people can vote online for her and um if she wins that she gets to go to the National Hockey League championships which I think might be kind of fun um so hoay for that and I um I'm sorry I'm just going to pull up one more list here that um our Park viw third grade teachers Bridget love Peter Saunders Janie Hansen deserve a little shout out along with their math coats coach Lind lindsy Des deal de Pasqual okay I'm gonna

239get the accent on that right um because the state board members came to visit their class just to see good teaching going on in third grade at Parkview so a huge shout out to them um on that Hayden Godfrey East high social studies teacher is one of 15 teachers from the across the country selected to participate in the 2025 Transit Atlantic study trip to Germany for us teachers um he will travel there in June and it's a fully funded opportunity Northwest Middle Schools having their History Day on March 7th just if you want to Mark that and National Civics week is March 10th through 14th and our schools will be engaged in that I've got to say we're getting a little um place on the map for our seal of Civic Readiness and this was

240done by our teaching and learning team with Dr Hall in the lead along with desie Olsen to create and with the whole team to create this seal of Civic Readiness other superintendant are already asking about it this idea that we can create citizens um and and mark their progress with the Seal of C Civic Readiness we'll provide a time for you to present that a little more to the board I think and then on March 5th Suzanne Arthur and Holly Reynolds West High's social studies teacher will participated on a panel to inform legislators more about civic education and the landscape in Utah what the Seal of Civic Readiness looks like and um just wanted to say shout out to them thank you everyone thank you Dr any reports um yes I just wanted to say

241that I along with several of my a few of my other board member fellow board members attended the CTE open house at at slick I mean it's in our CTE there and that was really impressive I I didn't really know that we had that many CTE opportunities and and programs yeah across the district so I mean it we saw the CTE classes that are taught there but then also teachers from across the district where they're touting their site specific programs so very exciting and then looking forward to going on a tour um of the Catalyst CTE Center next week um where is that again D Davis in Davis so that is the one that the legislature was went Gaga over right so um it's it could give us some ideas of what our potential is

242yeah um and then I also wanted to well I I don't have it pulled up up but it's Utah loves public schools that there's a a website [Music] um anyway it's a growing number of people who are are really showing their appreciation for public education sorry loves public education and so I I really like that that we're championing championing our public education and our high quality teachers in our district in particular yes um so I might share that on my own page um oh please do Utah public Utah loves public educ publicschools.com oh okay yeah Utah lovesu schools.com yeah yeah check it out M you have a report this evening yes um first of all uh Ramadan Kim um I you know well uh let me just give a little bit of a brief of

243what Ramadan stands for Ramadan is not just about not eating from dawn to Sunset uh it is more about you know worshiping it is more about appreciating what it's like you would be fascinated then at the end of the day you have food but then you think you know about other people across the world who do not have you know that opportunity to be able to you know Feast at the end of the day and also ramadan's commemoration it commemorates actually the revelation of Quran uh on the prophet Muhammad pleas be upon him so um the world I mean the two billion Muslims across the world those who are able to fast are able to fast and those who are not able to they are forgiven and they are also you know contribute by giving

244alms to the poor um uh to make up for not being able to fast and so um and if I'm I am just going to you know wish happy Ramadan in Arabic to uh the Muslim and Arab Community rad [Music] um Salt Lake City uh Ramadan I'll Dil um rad Kim um I'm learning from Muhammad significance of language in in in these special moments for our Muslim Community um here in Salt Lake and around the world um I want to give a shout out to um Lea goby she emailed our board this morning um with suggestions for our district about how um how we can not only better serve our Muslim Community but how we can honor and respect um what our students who are observing Ramadan um you know what we could be doing

245in our schools to to to serve them in a in a more meaningful way um it included things like creating a space during the lunch hour um so that students um have that kind of quiet space to reflect and to pray um teaching genuine lessons about Ramadan and in Muslim culture and history in the religion um a number of other suggestions were made um I was able to forward that to Dr Grant who forward it to Dr Taylor and those suggestions have been filtered out to our school communities um so one thank you Lea thank you Dr Grant and lison Dr Taylor for making that happen um I've had a busy a couple of weeks in between the last two board meeting and between the last board meeting and this one um I I got

246to go to a CTE classroom um it was the fire cadet program um over at Innovations and let me tell you they kicked my butt um box jumps uh push-ups not only push-ups but plyo push-ups which means you have to actually leave the ground um when you um are in the the top of the pushup so your hands have to leave the ground um making it a little bit harder to push this almost 200 lounds off the ground but nonetheless um uh and then a lot of kettle bell swings and some drills um amazing program amazing opportunity um the the instructors uh were great Captain Barrett and um they let me know that they are accepting applications I might have to entertain them on that uh but nonetheless it was an amazing experience um Brian

247and I had the opportunity to um be down at Neo school district offices last Saturday it was two Saturdays ago two Saturdays ago um for a training for board leaders um board presidents and vice presidents um a very awesome experience and um I know Brian and I can can bring more of what we learned uh to the board at a later time and then I'm also looking forward to uh participating as a judge um at Northwest for the science fair um topics of Brown versus Board of Education um magal versus kigan uh the Salem Witch Trials will all be things that I'll be hearing about from our students I'm really looking forward to it Bri well I would just Echo um both Nate and Charlotte um I thought the board leadership training on February 22nd

248was beneficial and I am trying to learn how to be a better board leader so um continue to work on that um I had the opportunity well I went to the CTE openhouse and it really is exciting to see how many opportunities our students have and we have lots that we can build on um and then I went and had a CTE training and broadcasting at Highland High and this is where I can say to my children that I'm not completely techn technologically challenged because I did an animation on my well under Direction but I did it with the Highland ram my alma moer so anyway it was a lot of fun Helia um yeah I just want to shout out everyone who went to the host of competitions yesterday and today um the health

249careers conference and say what you won well I got second and third so thank you um West I know had around 160 members there um and West ELP swept first second and third in multiple events so congrats to them and East was also there so congrats to everyone who competed and won um people have taken many of my items um because I did like everybody you know go to the CTE openhouse volunteer in a CTE classroom to be a student for the day and also will'll be judging at North West science fair but I wanted to share um two items of semi business and one is that at the west and Highland Games I was able to sit with some of our opponents from Canyon school district and their peer board members and we talked

250a little bit about um the way they managed Athletics during their High School rebuilds specifically from principles of the school who are now serving as athletic directors and I just wanted to pass on to Alan and Isaac as well as the whole board that they would be an incredible resource and I think we should talk to those peer districts about how they manage a lot of attended the unified basketball tournament in Murray it was fabulous to see the excitement of the students the the students were disabilities the general education peers the parents it was just beyond wonderful so if anybody gets the opportunity to do that iort like highly suggest it um attended Emerson stem night it was really fun to see that CT um I'll be visiting nibble Park um tomorrow spending time there

251with the principls and um whomever is around um uh then the uh Community Technical education center I do separately have um couple hours set aside there although the more I'm hearing about your experiences as to the courses they put you through I am now nervous oh my goodness um the Davis Catalyst Center I'll be attending the USB spring Regional um next week um and attending the um film screening counted out um that Tiffany Hall brought to our attention um a few things so trying to really get out there to support the community and learn more about our district so I can hopefully better represent cool and I oh Brian thank you Amanda for reminding us about that regional meeting y just so that you all have that on your radar y next week great um

252and then I also forgot that I'll be at the Clayton Middle School play so if you have a chance to go up and see the play and check it out everybody's going cool all right I'll call the meeting a jour thank you everybody