SLCSD Board Meeting, February 6, 2024, 5:30 PM

001yeah let's start some rumors oh I want to start rumors that's just what they need good evening everybody uh we are going to go ahead and get started with our February 6 2024 Board of Education meeting um before we convene the public meeting we do have a need for a closed executive session of the board and I will entertain a motion to enter a closed session you want do that go ahead I move that the board on February 6 2024 go into closed executive session to discuss the character professional competence or physical or mental health of an individual I second we have a motion in a second on the table any discussion seeing none we'll start with a roll call Vote with vice president Williams Bryce Williams yes Jen yes Nate saler yes Brian shenson

002yes sweat yes excellent that motion carries uh we'll go ahead and prepare the room thank [Applause] you and I go ahead and get the meeting restarted um as you know the board did just um leave a close executive session and so um please excuse us for being a a touch late um while we got the the Board Room set up and Technology set up um for our meeting um which is going to convene today is February 6 2024 I'd like to welcome everybody um thank you for being here um I do want to make sure that I recognize our association presidents um I see some who are with us already today so for our buildings and rounds we have President Alia o compo Child Nutrition president Tanya Slaughter uh for transportation president Chris krogue uh

003for S it looks like your whole committee is here I know I see chelia uh James and Mike so thank you for being here um and then for slasa our um School administrators um they are represented by Miss kessley green I don't know if she's made it here yet but uh but I know she's on her way or watching um remotely um I also want to um actually I'll get to that in just a second up next we have our Pledge of Allegiance and we've asked student board member Josiah Evans to lead us in the pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all excellent thank you jiah for leading Us in the pledge

004um for recognitions before I move on to um the national board certified teachers um I do just want to read a a brief statement on Black History Month uh Salt Lake City School District would like to recognize February as Black History Month Black History Month is an annual celebration of achievements by African-Americans and a time for recognizing their Central role in US history uh superintendent Grant moving to national board certified teachers yes we have desie Olen here to present this to us Des is responsible for social studies and civic education and national board certification here so please come on [Applause] up so good evening can you hear me yes um good evening this is always a highlight of my year I'd like to thank the Salt Lake City school district for supporting and recognizing teachers

005who pursue and renew their national board certification national board certification is the highest teaching certif certificate a teacher chooses to pursue it is a process grounded in Teaching Standards and evidence in which teachers analyze and reflect on the impact their teaching practice has on their students learning teachers complete four components which address a range of practices including their content knowledge differentiation of instruction classroom environment assessment literacy and professional learning and collaboration an NBC must renew their certificate every 5 years through the maintenance of certificate process which requires NBCS to demonstrate their continued professional growth and how they continue to meet the nbpts Teaching Standards over 65 Salt Lake City school district teachers have achieved their national board certification since 2006 though many have retired today we have 38 active NBCS in our district the largest

006number of any District in Utah additionally oh yeah [Applause] additionally over 30 teachers are registered to begin their initial national board certification for which we offer robust support um that includes monthly workshops and pairing them with one of 13 NBCS who serve as mentors to them so it's my my uh privilege to um uh call call out our new and renewed NBCS for this year um thank you for recognizing them and so we have through so I guess what we'll do is have them come up and um and then we'll all meet outside um so so our new national board certified teachers and I'd like to let you know that these three new national board certified teachers persevered through covid and other real challenging situations um until they achieved and so it was it's it

007is it really is um and they are Rebecca defas I don't think she's here tonight uh she's at Northwest Becca hodkinson from [Applause] Escalante and um Leanne Jennings from [Music] uent renewed NBCS are Rebecca Hansen at West I believe she's on uh not here this evening Elise Maxwell from bonnaville Sarah Nichols mtss [Applause] specialist Michelle OKO Hillside I'm not sure Petty Rose Park and principal Matthew [Applause] teer you thank you they are all standing back here but they all went to the I want I want to say Laura Cheney is here also been hug support the national board and we were around the schools on a Friday at 4:00 and many of these teachers were in their costum [Applause] still thank you so much for that presentation and congratulations on your your achievements teachers and

008for all you do for us uh moving on to our consent agenda um before I see um a motion for that um business administrator kirley has an update regarding item C on the purchasing and accounting reports business administrator kley yes so there needs to be a correction on exhibit 3 b1c the increase to the kids play Foundation there's a typo in the third paragraph where it says purchase or the original purchase order uh B2 4843 was initially set up for and in the exhibit it says 38,000 that should really be 32,00 um and then everything else is correct so we will make that correction on the exhibit retroactively okay thank you and that'll be reflected with the minutes and the notes from this meeting okay thank you are there any questions from board members about

009that particular change that needs to happen okay thank you I'll go ahead and uh seek a motion for the consent to again I move that we could accept the consent agenda with the amendment noted by business administrator kirley I second we have a motion a second on the table any discussion to the motion Brian I do have one question and that is on [Music] um number seven final School Land Trust plans in the exhibit when I was clicking on it it would not open up to the folders that we needed to access to see where our board member assignments were for reviewing the Landress I talked to Dr Taylor and he sent me a zoom link but I want to make sure that the rest of the board that you all got your Zoom link

010because yeah I don't think we would have been able to um access it with without that I got it today yeah we I got mine as well y yep okay thank you board member jensson any further discussion all right seeing none we'll do a roll call vote starting with board member sea uh Jenny seea yes Ashley Anderson yes Nate Salazar yes Mohamed yes Brian Jensen yes chrisy sweat yes Bryce Williams yes excellent that motion passes thank you board members um next on our agenda is our request to speak speak um I do have a brief statement that the board would like me to read before we begin um these are just speaker guidelines for public comment to be read by the board president the board enjoys the opportunity to hear from the public during the

011comment portion of its meetings before we begin I'd like to take a moment to remind you of our board rules governing your comments the total time reserved for public comment is not to exceed 15 minutes with all speakers or groups limited to three minutes the board will not allow public comments during board meetings that are slanderous obscene or otherwise violate state or federal law employees and or their representatives may not use the public comment period to address issues that should be raised through existing formal communication channels or established grievance or negotiations procedures I'd also like to explain that unless the speaker's topic is already on the agenda state law prohibits the board from taking action on items raised during the public comment period however if it seems appropriate to the circumstances I may direct District

012staff to follow up with a speaker on the topic discussed our first Speaker this evening is Sarah Nichols here that'd be great also A Renewed board certified teacher yeah I'm triple Duty and too but okay hi everyone my name is Sarah Nichols um I'm a mom of two little kids in the district I'm kind of here in that capacity and in the capacity of someone who cares a lot about our students not like generally but like specific students that I I Adore and care about and um want to help protect so first thank you um I'm proud of the stance that our district has taken when it comes to protecting our students with diverse sexual orientation gender identity and gender expression even something as innocuous as a pride flag which means so much to students

013as they scan for safety is an act of rebellion and a reason for discipline in other districts and now of course we Face new and looming legislation that looks to further St stigmatize and other our trans and non-binary students I know that with the passage of HB 257 our schools will have to wait through the implications and find ways to follow the law while still doing what we do which is protecting our kids and making sure they have access to a safe and uplifting environment in which to learn we know that transgender youth face higher rates of suicidality and depression which is a direct result of society's stigmatization of their mere existence lgbtq students who go to agenda affirming school have lower rates of attempted suicide and we know that gender transgender students suicide risk

014is cut significantly if they have one accepting adult in their lives nationally 80% of transgender students avoided bathrooms because they felt unsafe or uncomfortable at school and 64% avoided PE for the same reason and that was before this new wave of bills targeting our trans and non-binary kids to give you an idea of the scope of this challenge I want to make sure you know that we're not talking about one or two students per school um or one or two students per grade level we're talking about one or two students or more in each class period in each classroom um at least at the high school level which has been my experience and there's a strong overlap with our trans and non-binary kids and kids who are neurode Divergent um so that they probably or

015they may already have difficulty navigating rules and complicated structures and expectations and this would make it significantly more difficult I had a student last year who didn't use the bathroom until November because it was difficult and awkward to navigate what should be an easy thing uh they didn't know where the gender neutral bathrooms were they didn't know the rules on using them and how to be allowed to do so and didn't feel comfortable going through the office to a nice bathroom because of the attention they were afraid they would attract and this is not uncommon you don't have to dig deep to find stories of students getting UTI from avoiding the bathroom or skipping school altogether because they don't feel comfortable navigating the bathroom situation HB 257 and its restrictions on bathroom and locker room

016use obviously have to be followed but great care should be taken to make sure our students are protected from its ramifications this means making sure each school has multiple options for safe clean gender neutral bathrooms and locker rooms in our larger schools like our high schools this means these bathrooms need to be strategically located in multiple parts of the school so it doesn't take an exceptionally long time for a student in class to get to them so that they feel comfortable using them and they're not missing class because of this new rule it also might mean having some neutral areas outside of the bathrooms for students to engage in normal social activities like putting on mascara and talking about crushes to make this happen you must prioritize these students you must find a way to

017FastTrack funding and approval for for some retrofitting of facilities needs to happen now not next year or when new high schools are built thank you Sarah uh next to speak is Amanda Longwell I'll try and be quick most of you already know me a I'm a got kids currently at Highland High School and Highland Park Elementary have been in enzine elementary Washington Elementary Clayton Middle School Hawthorne Elementary um a lot of that's mostly because the special education programming um is not consistent throughout the district um that's not the only reason I'm here there's one point I wanted to make I just I had a conversation organic conversation with a security officer over at Highland High School um who from his perspective he shook the hand of a student being friendly um and was asked to

018uh leave his position um I don't know the full story behind it there's always different versions um but talking to different students and such um that was the one that they felt comfortable with so where we were concerned about um the uh implications of the metal detectors and then having the friendly security guard um be ousted by a handshake as concerning um so FYI if you're not aware um just pointing out if you're you're eyes aren't on it the HR reports have consistently been showing that we have not consistently been filling our pair positions so we still have that being a significant problem that's significantly impacting our special education students um so we need to we need Solutions we need training we need conversation we need full-time positions we to get the full-time positions last

019round but our school that has three self-contained units a resource room um they were only allocated one from what I was told and they have a lot more need than just one so the turnover still exists and it's uh pretty lengthy I know you're talking about special education tonight um there's a comment about maintenance of effort please please please don't be afraid of it please do better um I could go into what other districts are doing to better support their special education program instead of Standalone uh there's not enough time um I noticed that you showing that uh there's an increase in uh special education spending even though there's decline um in the allocation of students um I'm curious if that is because of the federal spending that's been allocated toward that or if it's

020Standalone separate of that extra money we received from the federal government um got to try to move fast um again the substit oh and the subtit institutes there was some chatter um and another place that had mentioned that I don't know if we do it in our district worth looking at um that they have 18-year-olds substituting at high school age level where they might be substituting classmates that they went to school with so I don't know what our protocol is but that would be worth um betting out because that's obviously concerning um getting there um and then and with the special education discussion and in general and now that we have the school closure underway it's time to get the feet in the ground in um honoring the inclusive schools resolution and doing better especially

021for our more complex kids it's time to do quality inclusion thank you thank you [Applause] man our next speaker is Kristen McDonald I am here because I want cell phones out of classrooms and I've been wanting it for 16 months at East High and I'm at a stalemate so I know that this came up in your last meeting um in the study session and I watched that meeting and I know that Dr Hall referenced the sccc's resolution asking for this and I wanted to make it clear that the reason that we well I wrote that resolution is because I can't get the school to get on board and I know we talked about shared governance and how like the schools are working together but that's not what's really happening and it's it's really frustrating we

022have parents who want it it was almost unanimous we've done surveys I've sent those to you by email where we have 70 to 80% of both faculty and parents that are in support of this but what we're running into is that teachers don't want to have that restriction in the classroom and I think it's interesting because I read the governor's letter encouraging this and I feel like his push was to get parents and students on board and I'm here to say I really want to get um teachers on board I know that we've got come to a place where it's really convenient to be able to use kids' cell phones in class but as a parent who um is aware of the mental health issues the academic distraction issues a lot of reasons why you

023know let them have them at lunch in between Class periods but they we really don't need them in the classroom and I know there was a lot of discussion of well how can we make the technology work better um and I think that's great and we want to work with the teachers to be able to address some of those issues but my biggest concern is that we've got kids that need to be able to focus in class and we have kids that need to be able to disconnect and kids that need to be able to have their mental health prioritized we know that this is important and I would say let's make the Bold move as a district to say that we going to make a change but it's not even that bold anymore I

024mean we're starting to get behind we have schools across the country um across the state and even across our district that are making this happen um so what we've asked is I believe it's moving to this the policy committee our problem is that there is a policy on the books but there is one word that says that it's up to teacher discretion if they're going to implement that so at East High there is no plan every teacher is doing whatever works for them or doesn't work for them it's not consistent and I think um Dr Grant mentioned I'm kind of confused that we have like this policy but it's not actually happening and I'm here to say that it's not and I'd love to see that it can I don't want to be here fighting

025with teachers because as I said 70 to 80% of them want this too but we just need a policy that actually backs it up so thank you for your time and I'll be [Applause] back our next speaker this evening is Troy [Applause] Davis all right thank you um thank you for the opportunity to address you today um after after the January 9th vote I accepted the results of the closure um and I uh embraced a positive outlook I shifted my resistance to the troubled process into support for the transition in a gesture of Goodwill I communicated support and gratitude to Dr Grant and asked her to thank the bo for their difficult work someone asked me recently if I was angry that my kid's school is closing and I and I thought hard about that

026and I'm not angry about the closure I'm I'm sad for sure but I I understand the need for closures and I really feel for the families who rented or bought their house within walking distance of these schools and have younger kids with many years planned in elementary school that's a really tough situation but what does make me angry is it feels like the district is getting away with something sinister here and the recent conflicts identified were just too much for me to ignore piled on top of the incorrect enrollment data and the population in the population enrollment study the secret members of a committee the secret score on the ranking spreadsheet and many other issues nearly all of which were identified along the way each problem simply brushed off as not a big deal but

027I have to tell you to the Thousand kids and the families this in this impacts every aspect of the closure process is a huge deal I would not be standing here or sitting here today if the overall process was open to public View using all the correct data decisions and conflicts were identified and out in the open even today the data for Hawthorne is still incorrect enrollment has actually gone up since the start of the year and kids inbound grew by 6% when the district shows a decline so I could go on and on with that but I'm not expecting or asking for Perfection but when big things are simply wrong or hidden from from public view hidden from the board members hidden from the media something needs to be done so while the superintendent

028brushed off the conflict of interest and stated the committee as a whole made the recommendations we cannot Overlook the significant influence of the chair who serves as the public face of school Clos Mees and interacted with over 700 families during this process leadership sets the tone and the potential impact on the decision-making process cannot be ignored this person was responsible for independently leading meetings that collected the core set of options the boc reviewed the 16 categories that were prepared the district was aware of this conflict of interest throughout the process it's all right keep going yeah right the timer still works there we go okay so uh where was I um this the district was aware of this conflict of interest throughout the this process but never officially notified the board and never bother to

029reassign the conflicted employee this alone should be enough for reconsideration but added to everything else makes reconsideration feel like a requirement your board rules plan for this type of situation when new information is revealed after a vote is complete a board member of the majority vote from January 9th is allowed to ask for reconsideration after speaking with a lot of constitu con constituents of board member Salazar and board president Salazar I'm sorry and board member Sika I'd like to call on one or both of you to immediately take the steps for reconsideration now that you have this new information it's imperative to bring Integrity to this broken process this will allow you to stand up and be the voice your community elected you to be both of you our entire District deserves transparency fairness and

030adherence to policies I urge the school board to take decisive action to re restore trust and uphold accountability thank you our final speaker this evening is kiru Cana [Applause] if it's all right uh I'd like to share this time uh with another member if not I would prefer him to speak that's fine with okay hello I come to this board meeting today representing the West Side the lack of transparency during this process is unbelievable that much was clear to me as I spoke with Westside residents more than half the population we spoke to had no clues that the schools were closing until after a decision was made and many of whom are worried about what's next for example JY Rios worries about Transportation as do many others it has also come to our attention that

031Brian connley has had a biased approach as his wife is principal of Wier and has children in other schools which were not on the chopping block Brian also suffered an injury which did not allow him to speak properly and the Spanish translation was off more than 70% of the respondents were worried about the two Westside schools that were being unjustly shut down there are people in this group who live in the middle of Jenny's District so I will direct this next question to Jenny Jenny the people in your District do not want this we have spoken to them we are them you stated that you were thinking of not just about the children that live in your District but of all the students of the Salt Lake um Salt Lake City School District we are

032here to tell you that with this decision you no longer represent us we are here demanding you Nate Salasar and Jenny saika don't sell us out make a motion for reconsideration and demand the process be restarted with more transparency whatever happens we know that the community wants to keep the school at the least we don't want new housing think of the children think of the future no vendan thank you for your comments just to finish off the time we just want to share some of the things that we found in the a surveys that we went into the community it was a couple dozen it was almost a hundred and just to say um going off of what he said about the housing we understand that there are internal uh conversations already happening of what

033to do with these spaces we understand we also understand there's already internal politics that have us that have a part in all of this we all we understand that we know that this has been a ongoing process for decades but we are here to say that the community does understand the implications of removing Community spaces they do understand that putting in quote unquote affordable housing is not affordable housing we understand that this is the process and I appreciate if Nate Salasar and Janny Sika really take into consideration the whole picture of what is going on in with this city and ask you as constituents to put a stop to this and at least restart the process make this transparent make this fair for us thank Youk all right thank you to all of our speakers

034this evening we really appreciate your engagement and coming out to to give us your thoughts and opinions about whatever you presented on whether it's cell phone policies if it's school closures um special education thank you for being here this evening um moving on to our next agenda item our report section school budget allocations business administrator kirley so um each of you are emailed plus it's it's uh it's a packet on your on your desk there so each year at this time we um present to the board the school budget allocations for next year for the 24 25 school year um so I just want to cover a couple things with our our school allocation spreadsheets so sheet number one is current year allocation so that's what we've allocated to the schools based on various different

035uh funding sources for the current school year sheet number two is our proposed next year's allocation I just want to note um on next year's allocation one change that we're making it it's really the only change um so so in the past schools were allocated funds to buy office computers what we've opted to do starting next year is we're going to centralize that process so we've brought in the office computer allocation it will um manage the office computers much the same way that they manage the rotation for the the student computers so that's one change you'll see from from one year to the next is pulling that allocation in and then it department will manage those office computers uh sheet number three is the carryover so schools are allowed to carry over their discretionary money

036so this sheet reflects uh funds that were carried over from the 2022 23 school year over to the current school year um by school um and the grand totals there at the end and then the final allocation the final sheet is the title one allocations um and and those are put together by Christine Marriot our Title One director uh as you can see you know our Title One funding continues to decrease uh we did have some bumps some artificial bumps during covid uh on those funding sources and really we're kind of returning back to pre-co levels on our Title One funding uh a couple other things I just you know as I as I look at these so our School allocation method has no um builtin inflationary adjustment so I'm kind I've been pondering how

037do we adjust for inflation for the school so they can continue to address the needs that they have um for the current year one thing that we've done so the schools get an allocation for textbooks and then every so often we do a district-wide textbook adoption and the schools have to pick up half that cost and the district picks up the other half for both this year and next year the the district will pick up well actually this year and I want it to be an ongoing thing pick up the full cost of those textbook adoptions which frees up those monies at the school to be used for other uh School needs but also as we continue this process I want to look at I I want to weigh carryover and then I want to

038weigh also um inflationary adjustments so we'll be looking at possible ways to do a formula you know if and you know the wpu now gets an autom atic inflationary adjustment through the legislature do we use that as maybe a factor of adjusting up the school allocations but if they have significant carryovers then maybe that limits the amount of new money they would get through um an inflationary adjustment and that's not built into either this year or next year's allocations but those are just thoughts that I'm having as we look forward to uh different ways to support our schools other than that um this method is the same method that we've used uh for years so see if I have any other notes on here nope um opened any questions on these allocations so once the

039board sees them we'll release them to the schools tomorrow so they can be planning their budgets for next year board member sweat so just for for clarification Alan on the on the last page well on any of these Pages um the schools that have been identified to close why did you include those so they're included on the first first page because they're open right because they're open um the second page they're on there because the last column is a comparative last year versus this year great so just to to keep the continuity there okay but just know that all the schools that are slated for closure their funds have been reallocated to wherever their students are anticipated to go right and again all this gets then adjusted with our October 1 counts I think that

040it's important you know for us to understand that because like even if you look at the last two pages you know when you're talking about the proposed Title One comparison it goes to what you just said that the children that are at Riley that money still follows them correct correct okay yeah most of these uh formulas are student count driven so wherever the student goes allocations follow exactly so could we talk about the um the rollovers for a second so that's on page two is that right uh page three three okay page three so there's a couple of schools that have significant rollovers Northwest is one of them almost a million dollars is there can you talk a little bit about what your process is when you look at is that first is that unusual

041to see a large amount of money rolling over that way and is it is there also a process of how you look at how are those funds identified to be spent out right so it the Esser funds through Co have kind of thrown a whole wrench into this because potentially schools have used their Esser funds and then carried over their their discretionary funds with Sr funds going away it is anticipated that we should be seeing these um carryovers go down um because they won't have those ler funds available they may want to keep doing things uh we don't have any automatic if your carryover is X percentage then you don't get anymore but those are some things that we want to be thinking of you know if if you keep growing your carryover year after

042year at a school I mean first off we would obviously talk to the the principal and say you know you what needs do you have and kind of help them spend those funds on on true needs to help the students but otherwise if they if they can't identify anything it's like okay maybe we're allocating too much to your school and we would pull that back and reallocated um towards other needs we haven't done that yet but we're we're thinking about it thinking about it that is really helpful to hear you say that I think the Esser fund part is important you know as we look at these um carryovers the schools have until the end of 20124 is that right to spend out those funds uh the end of the school year yep so the

043end of the school year would that be 2025 are you talking this end of this school year end of this school year so the the funds expire September 30th of 2024 right um so for the so we took some of those funds and allocated it straight to the schools for them to spend on as discretionary at their schools um so that they really don't have anything between July 1 and September 30th um so we really want them to be done spending their s funds at the end of this school year so superintendent maybe um in October it might be good to have this come back you know just so that we can see you know um that the funds are being expended and then if alen is actually thinking about his idea that might be

044a time for us to you know look at that and talk carry over to a carry over thank you Alan Bo member Anderson yes I've had an email from a parent group with concerns over their expected Staffing for the next year so as I'm looking at this I'm thinking about their questions and wondering if you can use this a little time during the meeting to explain how these numbers would equate to the number of staff that a parent would expect to see in their school but as a follow-up to that what decision making once they have these numbers the principal and the school Improvement Council or sic have versus the role that say a PTA or a school Community Council would have right so the Staffing allocations are based on estimated enrollment for next year

045and then there's the board approved ratios for the different School levels so you you take total and says divide it by the ratios and here's how much staff that that allocates to um and and that's paid for with a separate pot of money now this money comes to the school as really discretionary money so the schools obviously the land trust money with uh conjunction with the SEC um but all the other money if the SIC and the principal you know as they look at what are our needs they can address those needs if their need needs are we want to reduce class sizes in grade three by even more than than what the allocation is they can look at their allocated resources and if they chose to they could hire a an additional third grade

046teacher for that school so what summary you're saying is that if a parent had a question about the number of staff and they were looking at this the first line of who they would want to talk to about that would be the school principal the school principal correct and then the SEC would be a secondary good way to do that my only other question is in terms of that projected enrollment like you said we won't know until October 1st what the actual enrollment is of a school building so how were these numbers determined determined when we had program movement specifically like DLI obviously is new programs so unlike a student a magnet class where you can predict where they're going to move how did we make predictions about how many students would enroll in programs

047yeah I I can be General if you want to get specific sandb back there can get specific but really is taking historical enrollment in those programs and just kind of assuming that that full program if it moved is going to move to where where it was now when we make the changes like we're going to see next year it kind of makes your historical data a little not as effective for making projections so we're doing our best and then we'll you know as we get new solid data as we have actual enrollments will'll continue to improve those U projections thank you any other questions board member b um I always wondered why we have allocated the um school lunch uh fund like kind of like distributed equally knowing that some schools um have a lot

048more students within need of uh uh school lunch then I would love to hear from you you know and and I'm hoping you know the board will think about this down the road I mean how amazing would it be if we were to have like a free lunch across our schools district I mean thought I was no seriously I mean uh we live in an amazing rich country and there is no reason for us not to have free lunch for them growing up in Morocco we had free lunch but I promise you there were so many bugs in that food but we had to eat it you know but we could not pay for it but here we really owe it to these kids um and I'm sure we could do something about that please

049let me just address what that column is so um there's a column called um board distributed student achievement funds and in parentheses school lunch and it's $3,000 per applicable school so lunch um tickets or payments are made at the central office so this is an addition this is not this is an additional property tax allocation to the schools for the administrative burden of collecting the lunch payments at the at the office as opposed to maybe in the past or in other districts it's collected at the at the point of sale um this is pulls the cash out of that process and moves it over to the central office so as to help um you know if they needed additional help to in the office to manage this this helps cover those costs so um says

050school lunch and it's really just an administrative issue with school lunch and not the actual school lunch program itself okay so if you notice there are some in the current year second page that aren't allocated yeah those are the schools that are the community feeding um programs where everybody eats free so since there is no um ticket needed there's no allocation there okay okay yeah so Dr Grant would love to say something about that thank you know thank you board member bade any other comments or questions Alan anything you'd like to close with nope so as I said in the cover memo so this is you know as we go through the budget process this is kind of the first first document or presentation we're going to do is we show you the building blocks

051of the budget um when you look at the budget book you're not going to see this kind of detail school by school you kind of see it all all um summed up but just let you know these are the kind of the building blocks that we use to build the budget that you you will eventually approve in June thank you thank you thank you Alan moving on to our next agenda item under the report section um Elementary and secondary school emergency relief also known as Esser update I think we're sticking with you all right so this is just our um I I'd call it a quarterly update but we haven't exactly hit each quarter but it's just an update to the board of where we stand on our current Sr programs um the only Sr

052fun we have left are the SR 3 or uh the American Rescue plan ARP sometimes it's called Esser um so if you start on the second page is just if you remember when we initially received These funds we had to submit a plan to the state I'm saying here's kind of what we um are going to do with the funds um and that's where you'll see plan areas so we had specific plan areas in that plan um and also the third column is this was the budget that was submitted to the state uh and then we kind of show some actual expenditures so we started spending this money in uh fiscal year 22 which is this the 2021 22 school year so the amount of money we spent there then we have 23 actual spent

053we have 24 it says spent and encumbered because we have um POS or contract salaries that aren't spent yet but they're they're they're in essence used and then we just have one total on the following page at the bottom for um there's $7.96 million that is not yet uh claimed um I just want to assure you that the district will spend that money we we will not we will not give it back um so just an interesting note on this Federal money there is no um there's no supplanting requirement what supplanting means like title one has a supplanting we couldn't we have to use Title One to make things even better the Esser funds don't have those requirements so at the end of the day if we had to we could can find some qualifying

054expenditures move them over um and use up those Asser funds um there is some talk at the State State office requesting a one-year extension from the federal government um because I don't know the timing on that we are moving forward as if September 30th 2024 is the deadline and we will um do what we need to do to spend down those funds um if you go to the next page we have a couple other smaller grants that are Esser related um we have our homeless program uh where we've hired two additional um people to help Mike uh serve the homeless population um we will have $55,000 left at the you know that's not encumbered yet but again if we need to move some of Mike's salary over there to spend that down we absolutely will

055thought it was a bonus oh no no no no uh we have some after school funds uh W which help support and strengthen our after school program and then our summer learning our summer learning is almost done because you know we did our bulk of our summer learning uh the last several years but we do have um some money that will be left over and if we need to because we all always have summer school in June we can address needs with the $28,000 uh the last one is the one I just want to put on your radar as we build our budgets so this shows the number of FTE uh FTE meaning full-time equivalents of employees that currently are paid with our Sesser funds so what I want to emphasize is those the funding

056are going away and these are the people that are paid out of those fundings I've highlighted some green the the three top green ones because those are people that were hired for our one toone initiative that we've paid out of Esser the board's already approved further one to one so um those have to continue because that's you know we're a one toone District um the rest of those as we continue to build the budget we're we're going to address the effect of those um the need of those and um if if there are things we want to continue or find additional resources for we would U bring that stuff back to the board um you're going to see a lot of PA of Professionals in here and this goes back to the carryover question a

057lot of what we saw when we allocated Esser funds to the schools is they took their pair pears that they were paying for out their discretionary moved it over to Esser so now in theory they'll take those and move them back um I I would imagine a lot of the schools have increased those numbers since the beginning of the pandemic um but they'll they'll move them back to their discretionary and they do have those carryovers that can you know if they want to ramp down they can use those carryovers to ramp down some of those needs or you know as we look at um you know additional needs at the schools so this is has been on my radar for the last 3 years knowing that it's the big fiscal cliff um but just know

058we're we're working we're planning and we're we're continually addressing that issue thank you Alan any questions board member Jensen so when we're over here looking like at letters training I mean that was a program that we agreed to for literacy with our elementary school children um I see the money spent in 20 2023 um nothing was spent in 2024 that's because the training is now completed yeah so that was the push to get all of the applicable teachers trained um so letter straining till still exists but it's on a a more limited basis on new teachers that might come new teachers so my question is are we going to ensure that those new teachers get the letters training is yes there's been letters training this year it's just that that's paid for with our with

059a different source of money an ongoing source so we we used Sr money to to do the big push and now we're using other funds to do the continuing work on that comes back to the supplanting I guess okay so when we're talking about that supplanting um so there's basically eight well very close to $8 million left in that pot when you're talking about the um FTE count with your supplanting can you be I mean if you didn't have needs for that can you be working that to use to help with that well the FTE is already paid for Esser so if I needed to use up that money I would take other FTE that's not iner but still qualifies and that's what I yeah okay y so you can do that kind of move

060moving around right so that's kind of stuff we can do at the end of the year when we really see where we land and if we need to move stuff over we we can okay qualifying expenditures okay well I'm just trying to figure out how to address some of those and largely anything in the classroom anything addressing student achievement uh is is a qualifying expenditure okay Bard member Anderson I think some of the questions I have will move to the next report that we have on special education funding but the thing that sticks out to me as I look at this is how many special education roles could be impacted as Esser expires specifically in the behavior space and this is not really a question for you Allan per se about what we would continue

061but it's about thinking as a board that as we've had these reports on social and emotional learning or as we call SEO we continue to circle around sometimes that we're not really talking about explicit instruction from a vendor we're really talking about building capacity of student services and that's what I see represented here so I think as we look at how to close these gaps what I think we might also consider looking at is the way that all of these things are housed across departments but they're all really trying to serve our same goal and as we navigate as a priority sometimes we have that loow hanging fruit of like what vendor tool are we going to pick rather than looking at like how are the counselors implementing those tools in a different space and

062the for FTE we're paying for behavior intervention and all those things as it goes along like I'd really like to see how we can direct that conversation to make sure we're maximizing the services that kids are getting for social and emotional skill development which I think is maybe distinct from what we've been talking about with seal and I just want to highlight again how many of those positions are impacted in this way so I don't know if you have thoughts about that but like I said it could transition in many ways to the next item cuz I know both literacy and L being the board goals and have been for several years uh we had a discussion a couple years ago um because those those goals have always been paid for out of um fund

063balance or onetime allocations and when the the last approved allocation came to an end we said well let's these are great Esser qualifying expenditures let's move it into there and then as Esser comes to a close we can further talk about that so we will continue to have those discussions as we um continue to build the budget yeah any other questions or comments ba K I'm assuming we're going to have a lot more conversations about Esser and what that looks like in our plans moving forward relative to to specifically these FTE and other programs oh can I ask one more question please I just I'm I want to go back to what you said we're we're proceeding as though the state doesn't get an extension what would the future look like if the the state

064were to get an extension would it revise anything we would do or we're proceeding it's going to be done and we're moving forward well it all depends on when we hear any word from the state that that an extension's been accepted um if we if we at the end of the year have that almost $8 million sitting in there and we got an extension we would just figure out a way to maybe continue some of these um programs for you know the remaining the the next year or however much $8 million would buy us um otherwise we would take some other qualifying expenditures and move them over so that kind of gives us that flexibility since we won't know when we hear um we we can we can easily pivot either way if we needed

065to and to be specific you're talking about not the state making the decision but it's the federal government that has to make the decision so the state I don't even know if the state submitted an application for extension yet but they are talking about it and then once they do that I don't know how long it takes the federal government government to approve that request and I think that right now what they're looking at is a is a sweeping extension you know cuz there's multiple districts across the United States are asking for extension and so if they make any kind of movement it would have to be at the federal level like some of the issues we have you know those we're we're doing a lot with HVAC systems um but we have some of

066the projects we've already been told the equipment's not going to get here in time to be installed by the deadline so we're looking at you know all right do we cancel those projects um do we cross our fingers and see I mean so we're we're looking at all those opportunities and and challenges thanks Alan appreciate the time thank you um our next um item under reports is special education funding and Facilities update superintendent Grant yep Aon Anderson our director of special education will come and has a presentation for us as well on this [Music] not promising I can use it well but thank you okay we'll just go okay thank you for having me today board um I want to take just a quick moment before getting into the slides to thank um alen and

067Christina for helping me pull some of this data and put it together as well as the reason we um added facilities in there we've been working really hard with um Todd plaga and Isaac he's usually here there he is for um creating some new spaces within our district um to be versatile for um some of our programs so it's been amazing to work with them to make this happen so we're going to share that along the way um this was the perfect night to to talk about this because my funding as you've already talked about ties in a lot with some of the Esser pieces and some of the other things you're talking about um but from a general standpoint prior to Esser and prior to covid um we have the two basic funds that

068we get funded through so we get funded at a federal level which if for those of you who've been in education long enough Obama President Obama did a lot to increase that funding because that funding was actually never done according to how Ida was originally written so we're still not seeing as much funding as was originally in ended in that national law um but we're seeing some and we appreciate that we also have um some State funding and then um one of the things that we're working through in Utah specifically is updating all of our Medicaid um laws and so this is something you might hear as a Hot Topic from some of our specialed teachers um we have Medicaid logs and time studies that are required in order to get that funding back so

069essentially we provide the services we submit for the services is then we get the funding back um and so that's another way that we get funding and then last but not least um and this was referenced in um public comment is the maintenance of efforts um that can be done at a district level of funding um and Allan can address any of those questions and we'll probably get into that a little bit more as we move forward but the idea is that um we can ask for funding and once that funding is approved we continue to get that funding through that funding source um where the federal government and state government may vary um up and down yes so I'll take the uh Financial slid um what this slide is is a pie chart of

070the um 2023 actual expenditures in the special ed program and even though it's pretty small as you can see 95% of the expenditures are in Sou salary and benefits um districtwide that's closer like 86% which is still high but you can see in special ed largely we're using those funds to pay for people and then we have some contracted service and then just other very small pieces of that pie uh this chart shows just a his 10e history of special education expenditures uh you can see there's um just following the trend uh start in 1314 was just under 20 million whereas now we're just under 25 million for last year and here's the number of eligible students over last year uh you can see this chart largely follows the same kind of slope that districtwide

071we would follow and you see that dip when uh the pandemic hit which if I put a similar chart for the districtwide you'd probably see a very similar similar line and this shows expenditures per student for the general fund which is the bottom blue line and then special education which is the top orange line and as you can see largely they they follow the same Trend um clearly we're we're paying more per student in special ed which that's why we get those additional funds But as time has has gone by you're seeing a very similar increase um in both those those trends so it's there's not one that's way out of whack versus another they're they're just following the same same issues thank you um so we're going to address or I'm going to kind

072of outline some of the things that have that go into the costs of the programming alen's already indicated the majority are people which is an awesome thing and we'll see that as well um but that 3% um will come into play here as we talk a little bit about um we we've added programming over the last 10 years to better support all of our students districtwide so with this additional programming over the last 10 years or so um we have added a postsecondary program that pulls out I shouldn't say pull out so what happens in special education is a student can qualify um at three years old for prek but they can go all the way until they're 22 post high so when our students have completed four years of high school and um they

073either get a a certificate of completion or an alternate diploma they may still um be eligible for IEP services and we provide those Services outside of the high school to provide transitionary opportunities for them we call the two programs we currently have VIP uh VIP stands for vocational Independence program and then we have score which is what we're going to celebrate later on with their brand new gorgeous facility um you're all welcome to join us on the 12th to see our new space at about 8:45 if you want to come out um score stands for self advocacy Community occupation Recreation and education again these are for our students who've completed their four years um at their high school and we're providing them with access to jobs and to uh vocational opportunities and we have created

074both of those programs in in central locations so we can access mass transit and things like that so that's taken some additional Staffing and some additional funding and and location um places to be at in addition we have added a partnership um with the University of Utah to support some therapy needs within our district so that we have a therapy unit um in elementary middle school and high school and that's the last bullet we just created in the last couple years the arise Therapy Unit at West High to make sure that Continuum was accessible for all our students that we felt needed that level of support in addition um to those new add-ons to what we were already offering um we just have an increase in student intensity we you were all we're time out

075as budgets as you've looked at some of the financial pieces that Alan's um shown you you know we have anou with the U for those therapy units that are about 250,000 a year um we have increase in needs for contracted services for nurses we have had increase of um need for nursing supports anytime a student requires additional nursing needs that we can't provide with our nurses we contract that out um we contract out they're called interveners they're sign um language interpreters for students who are Duff of Heart of hearing that's contracted out for students and they work one on-one um signing to a student all day as as that's required so all of those um contracted Services we provide as needed when students enter Salt Lake and so that's something that we've seen increase um

076in costs as you've seen the cost of everything has increased over the years we've also increased um the pay for our par Educators um thank you this has been something that has been asked for to not only attract um good candidates but also keep good candidates so this has been something really important to our department we've increased pay along with HRS and Allen for substitutes so again we can potentially find substitutes for our classrooms and then something that I've worked with Allan and HRS on is when we hire School psychologists when we hire audiologists they are required to have a higher level of Education um just to walk through the door and so we are now honoring that educational level by paying that doctorate um pay at step one step one lane one so that

077they can then want to come to Salt Lake so some of that recruitment piece was something that we were missing in the past that we've addressed with some of our increased cost costs and then just again INF inflation has happened and we've just had an increase in general of cost of living I'm going just pause we're good with that we're going to kind of segue into people so that was some of the additional pressures that I saw on that 3% but now we're going to talk about people really quick so we staff 460 um adults in the special education department uh two sorry 421 of those work directly with students every day so you're going to see that broken out as we move forward I think that's huge we are not super topheavy in our

078district and that is critical to providing the supports that our students need um the very first people we'll talk about are our licensed teach teachers we have 156 licensed teachers districtwide they work in um anything from a resource class or prek sorry it starts as low as prek you know resource all the way through our post High program um we also have one teacher of the visually impaired and one teacher who teaches orientation and Mobility uh in addition to our special ed teachers which we have in every building we have speech and language Pathologists there's 27 of those districtwide they are all assigned to a school so every school every student who requires speech has access to it in their school they don't have to go to another location to get those Services um something

079I've noted in working with um our speech language department they have had a slight increase in number of students who have required speech services since covid so they've actually seen an increase about 200 kiddos that are either m still qualifying or are qualifying for speech and that's that's a unique um little disruption in our force that we weren't necessarily planning on but so we have those individuals in the classroom um for our par Educators we currently staff 20 38 par Educators districtwide again this starts all the way in preschool and ends in our post High program they're seen in a variety of locations we have um some distinctions and the distinctions also have to do with um the need of a classroom and pay and so we have added those 24 full-time par educators positions

080which um board member Anderson indicated were a lot of that came from Esser so there is some funds that we have been using hopefully wisely to support needs we've added those because we saw the need to fill classrooms with uh people and we weren't always getting the applicants that we were hoping to get they were just not happening um as I looked at the listing last week late last week we had about 10 postings to two were already in route through HRS to be filled and everyone I think except one had applicants in the queue so really I'm quite pleased with the response that we have been getting as we posted jobs and need um and we've been working with HRS to find unique ways to advertise those things and see um that our those

081needs have been filled as best as we can so that ends our list of people who directly every day are with a kiddo um the rest of my department actually that's that's not an accurate statement in this list I have three occupational therapist who are in classrooms every day with students we have two adaptive PE teachers again who are in classrooms every day with students and then um our physical therapist who is also with students daily and then we have our audiologist who sees students very frequently um also has her own case load for students who are deaf of Heart of hearing but then helps us with screenings as needed that is unique to Salt Lake not to Utah in G not in Utah but as we've interviewed for ideologists to fill the position not

082every district has that and we find that as a huge benefit for us to really support our families when they have immediate need for hearing concerns we can help support that um we also have those 11 full-time or sorry 11 School psychologists we are a testing model District they do not typically give Direct Services to students so they work a lot with our our student um Ser s's school student commit um committees student services coun thank you thank you that one too many acronyms today um but yeah SS's to identify that child fine piece so that we are supporting um students they do the evaluation for initial assessments and um re-evaluations so that's their primary purpose and support in our district and then um in addition we also have a school nurse that helps with

083those she's our contact for our contracted nurses she works and helps me set all that up and then if we have any additional needs she helps me with esy and making sure we have nurses there and things like that and then our last level of um staff that I really really quickly want to touch on is we have just a few staff that um are at the district level there's two administrators myself and the coordinator we have the 11 Consultants and then I do have two administrative assistants that work in the office to support whatever needs come our way one is intended to be um help more so for our related service providers that's our speech language staff and then the other one helps me with the with the sped side of things so that

084brings us to the question of um what needs do we have we want to continue with where we're at we're not necessarily asking to to add significant amounts of Staffing in any one place but rather to sustain what we're doing and as you've looked at your budgets you can probably see why this ask is is coming to you as Esser is ending we have some ideas for um some enhancing of potentially some higher intensity behaviors throughout the district that we would like to have some very small asks um that we are willing to present um that can support against throughout the school district and then the last piece is and this also ties nicely into the project things happen things break we need new lifts we um need new badge systems um a student moves

085in and they're not it's not accessible and whatever their space is and so really expenditures happen and as they happen we have to to answer that need in that call so we have some ongoing maintenance things that just happen as part of you know being a part of a school system did I miss anything in that part um I want to quickly talk about our very new facility because this might give you some ideas of what expenditures you know look like within the special ed realm um it's not always it's typical in a classroom but then there's some additional pieces that we're really excited about this new space it's going to be located at Horizon um it has two fully ADA Compliant restrooms that has showers and lifts we'll see in just a minute very

086exciting it has a locked kitchen station that allows for the adults to roll down a screen so that if there is any um need of to put that piece away for safety they can you know um lock that apart we have this awesome beautiful Atrium space that they're going to do some agriculture in and then um it has two teaching stations and the reason we chose um Horizon was all the access to the things around it as well as the mass transit cuz these students are in that postsecondary programming so um as you look at this if you're familiar with horizont it's on the main floor um on the back end of that main hallway it was a kitchen it was the um po what's it called the kitchen no I know but it had

087um Public Kitchen yes proarts it was the proart space if you familiar it's been completely redone to have that beautiful Atrium in the back end and then the one teaching station is going to happen in that right photo and then in this other photo the one on the very left is the second teaching station we've got the life skills pieces with the kitchen and the washer and dryer all very life relevant skills and then like I indicated just these two beautiful bathrooms um one of well they were still doing some finishing touches so we didn't get awesome pictures but they're gorgeous and we're so excited about the opportunity that we have here with this program okay so that brings us to next steps this is where I jump in so one thing we hope to

088accomplish by this presentation um so special education has been under a lot of financial pressures e even pre pandemic um the revenue from the state and the federal government just is not keeping up with the needs um and over the last couple years you know we saw we've increased papr salaries we've you know these are things that had to happen in order to provide the the services um we've covered those expenditures with Esser funds so as again we are designing the budget going forward we're going to have to find unique ways to both probably combine some ongoing resources and one-time resources to be able to keep um funding um special ed to meet their needs so as as we continue to develop the budget going forward you'll hear us talking about things we might be

089doing uh resources we might be using to address some specific special education needs thanks Alan and I just to to explain you know we talked about maintenance of effort briefly what that means is once you once you provide it you have to continue to provide it um but there are some very unique ways you can provide additional resources to the special education prog while still you know hopefully maintaining some flexibility in youre requirements and we'll continue to look at that you know I've reached out to other districts because this is not a issue unique to Salt Lake District um special education funding is a you know I know Statewide but I suspect it's a nationwide issue um so we continue to talk with other other districts to kind of say h what are you guys

090doing how how are you uh addressing your shortfalls with with local funding while still maintaining some flexibility in youre requirements you so any questions B Jensen okay so back to the financial questions in your first slide um well not the first slide expenditures over the last 10 years it shows anyway it looks like to me when you're looking at that that 2021 2021 22 it was a more significant you go back that's when there was a more significant increase in your expenditures the line is going up a little bit more steeply is that because of Sr funds I I would say it's because of Sr funds but if we didn't have Sr funds the needs were still there we just happen to be able to have Sr funds to address those needs okay and now

091the needs are still there and the SR funds are going away so those are the challenges we're faced with this still without the funds right so we were able to spend because we had some money but the needs are still there right is that yep okay then in the I believe it was the slide after that yeah this is where you said that it would be reflected with General students there was a pretty significant decline in special needs students is that because they were withdrawn and their parents took them somewhere else or correct I would say and I don't know that they necessarily went anywhere else but just withdrawn okay because our our and we don't have this in here um but our uh percent of students qualifying stays quite stable districtwide year to year

092um we have those numbers and they're they're public right now on the district website so our um identification rate is pretty stable like I said we've seen an uptick in our students with speech and language needs why they're continuing on because typically they graduate out about six F sixth grade and we're seeing an uptick of students move into junior high and high school still with services but as far as identifying if we go back to this one and you I'm wondering my my hypothesis would be that a bunch of students move back in and we had to provide additional services or find additional staff for the students that we had with IEPs so it's not that we were doing more but more kids came back or more kids immediately enrolled and we were addressing those

093needs okay that's how you'd explain that that would be my guess without digging deeper but Alan and I can absolutely dig into into those individual years um Sam also helps with pulling those that data piece cuz we report so we report um December 1 every year to the federal government how many students have qualified with an IEP how many minutes they have and where those minutes are and that's where all of the numbers come from now I'm thinking back to I mean when I was in the school I mean it was a fairly stable thing like you're saying but I guess what my question is so we see that decline you think that some came back probably and that accounts for some of the expenditure do you anticipate that more will be coming back or

094do you know what I'm saying yes I don't think at this point what I am seeing systemically and I think any teacher would agree to this is we're seeing an increase of need as our as Our Generations come into kindergarten so we're seeing more need than we typically have preco so as a teacher and administrator preco we were pretty stable of like we can expect a couple referrals but minimal in kindergarten and we are getting students coming in not only in kindergarten but first second and third who maybe have never accessed before um because of covid that we're seeing that we're going we're addressing those needs and potentially identifying students okay one last question so when oh I'm trying to remember where that slide was oh yes it's um expenditures per student so it so

095shows the general fund oh that's the one so I just want to make sure I'm understanding it right let's go to 23 and it looks to me like the general fund it's about six thou a little bit over $6,000 for a student is that right that's coming from the general no that's the that is so the general funds A little over 8,000 per student in 23 and then the special ed is just under 10,000 per student I think the question is are those is that every student or which students are getting which funds so yeah so the blue line is the general fund expenditures in instruction divided by total students students okay so the special ed students are included in that count okay and then on top of that there's the additional expenditures for um

096special ed students needed to make sure I understood that because and no that's a great question because all of our students are those Jed ed students first and then we receive the additional F you get the additional um special ed funding exactly so I guess to sum that up with a special ed student they'd be getting like $18,000 or something like that average okay and that that includes you know a lot of the supports that you know you have to have electricity and you know stuff like that which in in the very specific education or special education expenditures th those are not charged there but they are included in a per pupil expenditure calculation for the total general fund okay thanks R Anderson yeah I was excited to hear about the changes at West in

097the presentation because I know there's been kind of a historical mismatch between the K8 levels of support and then what happened in secondary and compared with the relative autonomy of high school I know that many students weren't ready for that experience and it was apparent in the state Dropout data and I'm really appreciative of your staff for addressing that I am curious if we'll see at the end of this year those Dropout rates um make a change but my big question is how you plan to address that ongoing turnover in as sent in Atlas which is notable among Paris but also the classroom teachers specifically at the middle school and I wonder why when we I know we have a tremendous level of support from administrators in the building what when turnover remains really high

098despite that and University Partnerships what are things from your Vantage Point that we could do to address that attrition great question thank you um we were just talking about this today with HRS and with the area director leadership and Dr Taylor um so we're looking to identify um a larger pool of candidates um to potentially pull from looking at some job fairs and just even some trainings that we can provide to candidates that we do have within the district um because we do understand and we do realize that there is that need within those those spaces the other thing that we have talked about and that we're working on in that partnership with the U right now Ascend um they have uh weekly meetings with the U staff and kind of decompressing so working on

099making sure that's happening at all those systemic levels to support the staff as well we will continue on and um I still have to do another presentation so we can I can bring that back and talk about that again if that if you that would be awesome and I don't know if it's a we've talked about raising the rate for Paras previously in the conversation I know that obviously like benefits would be like the next thing for those positions but especially classroom teachers where those are things that are provided and we see the attrition I just think there's more to unpack about what what we could do do to to stop it on all levels but obviously like benefits would be an important part of the conversation B thank you so much for everything you're

100doing out there you know um it's not an easy job you know especially being a voice for those who um you know cannot stand up for themselves and their parents are also very very busy you know uh uh making making sure that they balance the scale of life and taking care of those kids and so um and I just have uh uh some questions and a suggestion uh so how many students with the special needs we have in our district total um just over 20 2,500 okay and 2489 I like that thank you for the specifications that um and so I heard for the new facility I do see it's nice to see new bathrooms and so are they uh gender neutral to just make sure that oh yes no they are they they are

101absolutely gender neutral and completely Ada for those students okay fantastic um and so I'm a firm believer in people who are in the fields are the ones who are um you know who can actually tell us more of what's happening and my suggestion I would love uh next year's presentation if we could have some teachers uh be over here and share their real uh you know their real life experiences um because you know for us here we say we look at the information we see it from above but there is nothing better than actually really listening to those features because I I firmly believe in the personal story and its effect on motivating us to continue to do even better as we move along um I have a u a sister in La who is

102with special needs um and you know I wish us as adult are just like them we see it just straightforward they'll tell you exactly what they think um and I wish we could have one of those kids and come here and just tell us exactly what they see what they wish they would see out there you know uh do they feel comfortable do they feel welcome is there something they would wish to see things like that you know um where we are actually um having a direct um connection with real life examples but I sincerely appreciate everything you do in there I know it's not easy but just know sincere gratitude thank you thank you any additional questions or comments from the board all right thank you Aaron for joining us and for all the

103work that you do thank you thank [Applause] you the fourth item on our reports agenda is a legislative update Dr Grant do you want to introduce this as well yes we're in the middle of the legislative season and wanted to give you a mid session um update whether we wanted or not if you haven't heard all this on the news yet um so um just a reminder there the are Friday meetings with the joint legislative committee that I've appreciated so many board members and attending and and paying just following up on these bills uh and weighing in as superintendant and board members on those um yandre chapwin has been our designated legislative liaison and um is staying up on this and so just wanted to raise I think some of the uh more Salient bills

104at the moment uh and where we are in the session thank you superintendent um board members as you know there are hundreds and hundreds of bills I've pulled out 20s something and I'm going to try to just give you top lines on them and um tell you about a a few things I think are critical for us to keep an eye on um I'll start out with two bills that have already passed and been signed by the governor House Bill 257 sex based designations for privacy anti-bullying and women's opportunities we heard someone in public comment speak on this bill um it does include some strengthening of some title n language um but it requires people to use bathroom and locker rooms in public schools and other government buildings that match their sex assigned at Birth

105um it requires us um to create us me schools to create privacy plans for students who request that whether that's uh having a gender neutral bathroom using a bathroom in the office um of course the concern there is that it will out some children who may not be ready for for those steps um and I um also wanted to to add that the bill says that we will have satisfied the intent of the bill um if we give students notice of these changes um if we take action to address any violations of this um of this new law for bathroom usage um and if we are able to develop privacy plans for students who request those um there are also some Provisions in the bill that state what can be used as a defense to

106an allegation of having used the incorrect bathroom um and that can be a student's unamended birth certificate indicating their sex assigned at Birth um or documentation that a student has undergone medical treatment or a procedure consistent with the sex designation of the Privacy space they've chosen to use um and as I mentioned our governor has signed that into law with both that bill and the one that I'm about to discuss next House Bill 261 um we do anticipate legal challenges so uh TBD for for the moment um the next and feel free to stop me at any time if you have questions um house bu 261 equal opportunity initiatives um this bill prohibits um public education system including higher education institutions and other government employers um from requiring people in the interviewing process for hiring

107for a position to submit or ask any information related to um protected categories that would Pro promote differential treatment um or using an individuals uh certain characteristics in any decision-making aspects for for employment or for education um it requires the State Board the state auditor and other executive agencies to review our compliance um and to report the on that compliance regularly to the legislature um and it does a few other things it it says that we can't uh discriminate um it's a good thing right um we also can't maintain any offices or divisions or employment positions um that are specifically created to um Pro uh to to well how do I phrase this techically um to uh promote certain um individuals or to Target certain groups over over others um it requires us to provide

108Student Success centers and such programs to support all students regardless of any of their other individual characteristics um that's the general basis of that bill um and then I'll I'll start with House Bill one um for those who don't know the legislature has a a requirement that they have to pass budget bills by a certain point in the session early on in the first half um that way if they aren't able to come to agreements towards the end of the session we've we've at least got something some sort of Base bill so this is the public education base budget bill um it has passed and it sets the budget for fiscal year 25 it says that the wpu value is 4,44 43 and it provides a 3.8% inflationary adjustment again uh that's just the base

109budget bill so there's still a few things going through the process this morning was the last meeting of the public education appropriation subcommittee which means the next step is the for the executive appropriation subcommittee to meet and finalize some of those budgeting um details uh next bill I'm fagging is House about the um budget yes so not to diminish the other bills that you've already discussed but something I'm hearing a lot about from constituents is in the base budget the shift to block grants yes and I know we've talked about that in jlc but like many parents I'm worried about the cuts to BTS Arts but there's other things in that block grant like gang involvement prevention money that make sense to Target to certain districts and as it is it's all been rolled forward

110and I know jlc was hesitant to oppose the base budget given its Myriad contents like they don't want to not have a budget as you've pointed out in the process but I'm wondering where we are as a district on articulating those budgeting needs and I know that the applicable Appropriations committees received a letter from our district Arts coordinator about the BTS component but I'm wondering if other departments like student services that would be impacted by those changes have sent letters if we should be taking steps as a board to formalize our support that they do so when a budget cut would significantly impact the district and and how we articulate those impacts to both general education Appropriations and public education Appropriations yeah so um the district isn't uh able to to tell employees you know

111certain advocacy activities that they may um Endeavor to take uh on their own um but what I have been doing is I've made sure that our legislators are aware as well as other legislators on the public Ed Appropriations Committee who don't represent our district but who understand some of the unique needs that we have here um some of those concerns were actually brought up this morning um it overlapped with our cabinet meeting so I didn't listen to the whole meeting but I know that that specifically was brought up that um the the gang prevention programs um there are districts like Salt Lake Granite that use more of that funding just due to the the population we serve and the the urban setting in which we are located that maybe a district in you know rural

112Utah wouldn't wouldn't need us in in the same way that we do so that is a concern um because I wasn't able to finish that meeting um I I'm not sure how that discussion ended up but there was an assurance from Senator Filmore that um in the next fiscal year that leas would receive at least the amount and likely a greater amount than they received this year year for for those programs even with the change to that funding formula um I'll I'll make sure I have an update for you on Friday for for that particular question that's who I wanted to see yeah and like Allan money Allan particularly with those those gang prevention monies um last I heard they're looking at rolling those into the at risk add-on oh um which again so is

113weighted it's weighted so the last analysis I saw of moving it to there the solid School District would pretty much be even with with that formula um the unfortunate part is they're moving it in there to say because that that um at risk amount is supposed to increase every year until they reach their target well they're going to take that money that we already have move it in there and say see we increased it that's exactly right so we're not going to really see an increase in those funds but we also won't lose so it's kind of like yeah and in the case of sorry I'm just gonna use up all my time but it in the case of something like BTS let's say there becomes a shortfall because of the block rant because what

114I understand you're saying is that there's a commitment by Senator Filmore to fund everything or just gang involvement he specifically was referencing gang prevention programs so like let's say there's a cut I think the cut from BTS Arts would be $181,000 is what I saw in the letter from the district well just is is there a plan for that shortfall should have happen yeah I believe Beverly taylored has been moved out of this conversation it's it's as of last Friday it was no longer in the conversation to roll into the wpu but if it did that's why the district keeps reserves so we can address those and and as we have time to figure out how to handle things that's that's what our reserves are really uh helpful to have thank you so what when

115you talk about Black Block ground granting I mean it's the same thing as talking about back backpack funding right I mean they're just trying to roll everything into one thing instead of having specific line items to show that they're funding it and I understand you know sort of when they talk about that but it does exactly what Allan's describing is that there isn't any Fidelity to putting it into one line item and knowing that you're actually going to be getting the the money even though he says you know it might be not Allan saying this but the legislature saying you know that because it's weighted you'll get that money I I just think it's so disingenuous to have that conversation about rolling so many things into a block grant instead of being able to say

116this is what we're going to fund and these are the reasons why we fund it and this is why it's important to have it as a as a line item this has been the ultimate thing that the legislator has always wanted to do is to roll those into block grants you know into specific line items into block grants whether it's the bever soron or the gang prevention or at risk or whatever so is this just the way we're headed Allen is that it's just going to continue to be block grounded and that the the state budget above the line is just going to be two two things h two comments so first of all you know the first example is last year they took the library money and um Nur the nurses money and rolled

117it into a discretionary allocation right now we as a district said we're going to keep we're going to keep those for the purpose that we've always had them but you know we don't have to and there's no other you know other districts may do different but clearly we need library and nursing money um some of what I hear is that districts have been asking this that they want to simplify things so that's why we're going to roll everything in to have more flexibility so I mean yes that's a true statement because you know they peel off $1,000 and then you're spending $1,000 worth of reporting for that Grant and so looking for ways to simplify but looking for ways to simplify while still increasing the over overall pot should be the goal so how do

118how do we keep how do we keep them accountable you know for the things that really impact Salt Lake District and I think that um that's going to be a that's going to be a challenge because when you do have you know the majority of voices maybe that are saying here let's we want more flexibility so backpack it you know and put it into a block grant whatever you want to call it it's it's hard on our level when we have so so many level I mean we're just looking at a great piece about special ed and the growth of the number of kids coming in kindergarten that need IEPs it's it's not going to stop it's just going to continue to grow so it's just something that I think that we as a district

119as Ashley has said we we might not be able to direct our departments you know to say this this and this but we certainly as a district can say no you know and we might be the the minority voice saying that but I think that we still have to we still have to raise the awareness of the Injustice sometimes of those inequities that keep coming up and affect our kids over and over and over again because we're an urban District a one of the few urban districts in the state and so I just it it's distressing to me you know understanding that that's the way that they're moving but how do we now continue to Advocate you know through our super tenant and through our business administrator to raise awareness that we can't just keep

120throwing things into a block grant there was a valuable conversation on Friday at jlc about things that school districts can do one of them was um a messaging from districts to encourage employees and um constituents to participate in their neighborhood caucus meetings that's where uh the process begins of determining who is elected to these positions right so well and I think also just to just to be really honest I think the most powerful tool that a district has outside of their board are their school community councils and if we educate our school Community councils about what's going on those are the voters those are the ones that can make a difference and I just think that somehow as we think forward superintendent about what's the information that we're going to give our school Community councils

121how are we going to educate them so that Grassroots that we've been talking about really is growing Jensen that was part of the conversation and when you're talking about the sec's if you're educating them then hopefully you're also encouraging them to attend their caucuses uh I mean that's where they can if they become delegates they'll have a voice and I think that's something that we can promote thank you board member jensson board member bade or board member Seeker okay me keep going question the one budget I know bills sorry um the next bill I'm flagging is House Bill 11 water efficient Landscaping requirements sponsored by one of our own um representative Owens and it restricts the use of turf uh for school property in the Great Salt Lake Basin it designates certain other areas but

122we're we're Salt Lake B great Sal Lake Basin so this is the part affects us um with new construction or reconstruction after May 1st of this year so it has some formulas in there um for our expert Isaac to figure out um the percentage of of the land that can be Turf and what it can be used for and can't be used for the the goal of the meaning grass it's turf or grass yes thank you meaning grass yes um yes the purpose is to conserve water and protect the Great Salt Lake um the next two bills are both related to sensitive materials for the first one is House Bill 29 sensitive material review amendments both of these bills are sponsored by representative Ken Ivory who represents an area of the Jordan School District um

123the first the first thing that house spill 29 does it expands the pool of who can bring a challenge against a a piece of literature um that includes a student enrolled in the Lea an employee of the Lea a parent with a child in the Lea or an elected official who represents any or all parts of that Lea um even if the school at which the challenge is happening is not in that person's uh specific District um when a challenge is brought a change in through this bill is that the material must be removed off the shelves while that process is taking place of reviewing that material um and whe if a material is deemed to be sensitive material it has to be communicated to the State Board because if at least three school districts

124in the state remove an item off their shelves it has to be removed from all schools across the state um it's either uh three school districts or two school districts and five charter schools in the state if if that happens then that that's gone from everywhere um it requires the State Board to establish a process for when districts are out of compliance even if the material that is deemed a sensitive material was reviewed before this bill uh were to hypothetically take effect on July first um and it it asks requires the legislative auditor's office to conduct an audit of each School District to make sure that everyone's complying um and all the audits have to be done by November of 2028 they're also henceforth required to present annually to the education interim community on their

125findings from these audits um House Bill 417 um so this bill is interesting it currently it expands the definition of what is an instructional material and it says that all material so every single thing that a teacher might use has to be listed has to be communicated to parents in advance right even like the tri article from this morning that might be relevant to my social sciences class um there is a sub that has not been adopted yet that came out today that changes the bill entirely and what it would then do is prohibit an Lea from passing a law that would prohibit the reading of sensitive materials in a public board meeting um if that material is available in one or more of the schools of that Lea so that uh a bit of

126a different direction but that substitute has not been adopted I I will keep you informed if it if it does get adopted um the next two bills relate to school safety the first is House Bill 84 oh yes comment really quick um I actually got the chance to Lobby yesterday at the capital and talked to wer about the um past two bills he's a co-sponsor on one of them um correct me if I'm wrong 29 right yes he's the the Senate yes um and he told me he's planning to make amendments to that one so yes he is he's planning to amend the part where um if three districts do it or two districts and five Charters do it then everyone has to do it he's planning to amend that so it's every District on

127their own um and he's also planning to um specify it so that you can't just choose to take historical books or like books that people may not like off of the shelves like for example books about like black history month and stuff if you're um if parents in your District aren't per se liking that you can't just take it off of the shelves so he's planning to make amendments on that part of it thank you thank you for going up there too that's so critical um okay house spill 84 so this is um sponsored by representative Willcox who's kind of become the school safety Guru up at the capital um and it's making its way through the legislature this would require SRO training to be developed by the state security Chief so it kind of

128standardizes SRO training across the state um it establishes a school Guardian program which would require um someone at every school who's either a school resource officer or an armed security guard um to to be at a school always um it also makes some changes to allow for data reporting from safe UT to the state's intelligence databases um and just as a refresher safe UT is not only a critical U Mental Health Resource for students it's also a place where anybody can submit a tip anonymously on school safety or any issues related to schools so um it's a it's an important resource for us and this uh change in the bill would allow for just more easily sharing data between that database and the state's intelligence databases um it requires a School Safety and Security director

129at the Lea level as well as a school and security um specialist at the school level at every single school um it also the last thing it does it requires us to provide a panic alert device in every classroom and to make sure that our school security cameras are accessible by law enforcement um there's another bill that deals with School Employees and Firearms House Bill 119 I do want to flag that this one is still in house rules committee um and if it's in house rules committee it means it hasn't even been assigned or put on an agenda or discussed at all so um typically when Bills remain in house rules late late into the session it's a lower chance of them actually passing through um whereas House Bill 84 is uh make making its

130way um and the sponsor uh is is working hard to to make sure it passes in both Chambers um the the one that still inous rules creates an educator protector program to incentivize employees to um carry a firearm and would allow for um providing a a safe storage for for that weapon on campus and some other things but it specifically just deals with that piece it doesn't include the other security components um House Bill 103 salary supplement for school speech language Pathologists and audiologists would make audiologists and some School uh speech language Pathologists eligible for the teacher salary supplement program um this I think this is like their fourth or fifth attempt to get this bill through um so we we'll see what happens with that one house bill 105 educator expense modifications I feel

131like Alan has something to say no okay um provides which one was it sorry it's okaying I saw you pointing I thought you wanted to talk about school speech language pathologist getting a bonus okay no but just so so that program is so there's several teachers and School Employees that already qualify for a bonus I believe let's see Logan's not here I think it's like $4,500 a year uh it could be that could be each H each you know half the year um special ed teachers uh teachers with math degrees teachers with science degrees they keep expanding the qualifying teachers and this is just another way to expand that further yeah and um in the Committee hearing they talked about all the folks who are involved in um serving our special education students and being

132part of IEP meetings and uh audiologists and speech language Pathologists are often among those individuals so um the justification is that they are are just as deserving of that salary supplement as as the other Educators that Allan just listed um House Bill 105 is a a tax credit it's a $500 tax credit for elementary Educators case six um if they spend their personal funds on classroom supplies and that tax credit is only 254 Educators in secondary grades from 7 to 12 um it's currently uh written as a one time um the the sponsor was not feeling confident that uh that there are funds to keep this going you know in perpetuity but it's at least a one-time um tax credit for educators um next two bills House Bill 121 educator background check amendments um this

133would prohibit an Lea from charging um a background check fee to a licensed employee or a non-licensed substitute teacher and it allows entities um government entities to share information so if I've if I'm a substitute teacher in the Salt Lake School District and I've already had a background check well then Salt Lake can share sh that with granite School District so we don't have to you know pay for that again um which seems Smart House Bill 221 stiens for future Educators this bill would um provide a $6,000 stipend for student teachers during the semester their student teaching um the sponsor estimated that about 1,400 teachers would qualify every year um and it's it's part of the legislator's um efforts to look at how to recruit and retain Educators knowing that especially while being in school

134full-time that students are are short on funds and um this would make it easier for them to um complete their teaching degrees and get into the teaching Workforce um next one house bill 192 local Education Agency employee paid leave uh so this bill um has changed a little bit it's um sponsored by representative Ballard and uh requires leas to create a leave Bank policy that would be accessible to all employees um I've spoken about this one with um Logan Hall over HRS and um I know certain employee categories within our district do have access to a leave bank but not all this would require all employees to access that leave Bank even if they're not full-time if they're not full-time they would it would be prated how much leave they could access and it's for

135the purpose of um postpartum recovery leave or parental leave um and the goal the the way that this was shaped is it matches the benefits uh the leave benefits for state employees when that bill passed a couple years ago it did not include um Lea employees and the sponsor is is trying to extend those same benefits to uh employees in in public education um it also uh so that's at the Lea level at the school level it provides a mechanism for sharing uh leave of different types so not just postpartum and parental but also sick leave annual leave um other types of leave but within the same school uh and it prohibits an Lea from taking Retaliator action against an employee who uses that leave um the Senate sponsor is Senator Anne Milner which tells

136me has a strong likelihood of Passage um House Bill 287 Advanced degree scholarship program this is a bill from representative Carol Moss that would create a program to provide educ uh provide Educators with scholarships to pursue um graduate degrees a Masters or another degree related to uh the field in which they are currently teaching in an Lea um and would uh again serve as a a way to help retain our teachers um for many of our Educators the the way to advance in their careers and pay especially is through uh furthering their own education but that's really tough really tough to do so this would make it easier for some of our Educators to do that um it's a $20 million fiscal note and it's uh set up as a 5-year pilot um next bill

137also deals with teacher retention it is called teacher retention House Bill 431 um it requires the State Board to to create an educator support hotline uh which allows Educators to call um and ask for professional support or resources allows them to report an Lea that is engaging in practices that make the job of the educator more difficult prevent them from doing their job um it uh allows them to ask about uh state board offered professional development opportunities it's a resource for um for educators essentially um so it has three components that's the first one the second one is it creates a master teacher program so we um we've we've heard some in our district about teacher leaders and some of that work that's happening in some of our schools so this would create a two-year

138pilot program um to allow schools to to do that to allow um Master Teachers to Mentor other teachers to to still remain as teachers um but to be able to share their skills and knowledge and expertise with other fellow Educators and the third thing that this bill would do is require all leas to provide 3 weeks of paid um parental or postpartum recovery leave to to employees um next two bills deal with local school board so House Bill 161 Schoolboard amendments um I'll I'll preface this by saying that both of these passed out of house committee yesterday um with strong margins so the first bill House Bill 161 from representative ship um says that subject to certain exceptions um the bill provides that a law passed by a local school board um including one imposing

139a new tax or a tax increase is uh can be referred to voters for for rep referendum for direct approval or rejection um House Bill 173 does something similar it's specific to taxes though it says that um a law passed by a local school board that increases a tax or puts or imposes a new tax can be referred um and it includes some other uh interesting language it talks about the local school board being the board of school district canvassers um in a hypothetical referendum election um it also potentially expands the duties of our business administrator in in helping to administer that canvas after an election um and attendance of a simple majority of the local school board is is a quorum for purposes of a canvas under this um I I also do want

140to note that with this bill House Bill 173 it's sponsored by representative Candace peruchi who is the house education chair um and and this was a bill that uh Alan and I observed that there were several members of the committee that weren't participating for most of the meeting but took the time to come in um particularly members of leadership to come in and make sure that they voted in support of this bill so again uh tells us some information um House Bill 331 classroom amendments uh the main purpose of this one is to just say that kindergartners must be toilet trained before entering kindergarten it requires parents to um provide assurances is that the student is toilet trained and has a process for um supporting the family like a social worker other things if the

141student is found to not be toilet trained and then a process for the students re-entry to the classroom um and it does allow accommodations for students with IEPs or 504s or or other unique situations knowing that that that is of sometimes the case with um with young children hospital 415 school fees amendments has not been heard yet but has been recently assigned to the house head committee so it will be heard soon um it phases out school fees over a period of 5 years I think this is our fifth year seeing a bill like this and yet again it has no fiscal note for for us to um cover the cost of those school fees um House Bill 172 immigrant student athlete participation amendments just says that for students um who are are homeless or

142who are not US citizens that um other documents can be used to confirm their date of birth um and their sex under certain circumstances so it just makes it a little easier for students in these unique situations to be able to participate in athletics um House Bill 182 student survey amendments requires parental consent for any non-academic survey the sponsor is concerned about the number of of non-academic surveys that are administered to our students um and she wants to streamline that process the consent has to be obtained annually um in writing and has to be obtained again if a student moves midyear to a new Lea um Senate Bill 92 student Communications methods um is requires local school boards to approve Lea policies that allow for students to have non-electronic notification and access to school events

143and activities including coursework information on schedule changes um extracurricular activities and the emergency response plans of the school or the Lea the exception to this CU um moving to non-electronic means of course work requires us to not be on canvas anymore right the exception is if we provide an electronic device to every student and that device is capable of receiving notifications and also in unforeseen emergencies in a true emergency you can send out a notification um as Alan mentioned earlier in this meeting we are a onetoone district um however as I understand not all of our schools actually distribute those devices um if this bill were to pass we would need to actually distribute those to students in order to maintain the types of communications that we currently engage in with students um and this

144bill just governs student communication not parent commun communication um so that's bill Senate Bill 92 I am almost done three more Senate Bill 177 absentees and prevention amendments um this bill would allow a schoolage child's grade to include attendance but only if incorporation is deemed appropriate by uh by the teacher and the parent and the parent um gives written permission for that to be the case so if my child is struggling with attendance and I want Little Johnny to you know be impacted be a little more motivated due to their grade then I can say yes please make that a factor in their final grade in this class um Senate Bill 105 student privacy and modesty public education sponsored by Senator Jen Plum who uh represents our district um would Pro protect um student privacy

145and personal modesty in in our schools in bathrooms locker rooms um we are presumed to be in compliance if we have a student who requests a privacy accommodation and we provide it by either a single occupant facility um floor to ceiling walls or doors um or even a curtain um sectioning off a private area for a student to change like in a locker room or PE class or something like that and the last bill I will tell you about Senate Bill 122 youth apprenticeship governance structure amendments this is sponsored by Senator Milner and her purpose is to create um a youth Apprentice govern governance study so working with the um goo and the DWS um Talent Ready Utah the uh the study would look at um how to encourage more students to participate in apprenticeships

146um it would also include Employers in the study um to make sure that uh we're really are looking at all the ways to expand opportunities her goal is to create kind of a template for what is an apprenticeship program should look like so that um others who want to engage in such programs have an easier time doing so with a a vetted template for how to do it you have any questions for me remember Jensen Andre I really appreciate your explanation and I appreciate how you give those weekly updates and email those out to us with the legislation um for me I think and I appreciated when you were um referring to fiscal notes that are attached to those pieces of legislation because I think for those of us that have been regularly attending the

147joint legislative committee meetings the real challenge is okay we have that general education fund and without you know giving all the titles and the acronyms and all of that my recollection is there's about $450 million in that fund and with these different pieces of legislation yeah they're beneficial but I think that we as a board have to prioritize which ones we think are are the most critical ones for the students in our district because there's not enough money in that pot to pay for all of these um good ideas or you know things where you know they want to um create better um educational situations I I think that for us as a board if we're going to you know start encouraging um our legislators we need to prioritize the ones that we think will

148use that money most wisely for us yeah and for anyone who might be listening and doesn't know what a fiscal note is when you go to the legislative website and you look at a bill on the right side there there are some links uh and one of those links is usually a FIS note they're not always there at the beginning of the session but at this point more of them have that fiscal note if you click on it it tells you what the financial impact is of that bill so you know how much it'll cost and uh who who will be taking up that cost is it the State Board is it from this fund or that fund um so yeah that some of those by the fiscal note will be 240 million well there

149goes half of it right there yeah and the problem with bills um like the school fees bill that has no fiscal no that means that they want us to absorb the cost there's there's no funding provided from the legislature for that and that that's a huge cost to leas what thanks yandre thank you I I know the um time and energy that it takes you know to provide the information that you have been appreciate your attendance you know at the jlc meetings I think that um it seems to me and it would be interesting to know your Insight on this that this year there is an enor amount of vendor bills and pet projects that have really risen to the top in a lot of these bills and as we go to the jlc meeting

150or as we talk with our Representatives what would be some strategies that we could use to really pull us back away I mean I think we did really well pulling back away from vendors and pet projects you know for a number of years but now it just seems like there's a Resurgence again this year yeah no I an observation that made last week is that it's it was week three last week and we're in the 400s numbering for bills I think we didn't hit that till the last week last session um so there are already as many bills halfway through the session as there were in the entire session last year um and naturally that'll lead to more more vendor bills and bills of all kinds um I do think that it's important to look

151um and that's why there's value in listening to the committee meetings it's good to read on the website what the bills say um again for those who aren't as familiar with the website there's a tab that says status on every bill you can click and see um if a committee has voted on it if um the the Full House has voted uh or Senate and there's link there to the audio um sometimes the video of the discussion that was held on that bill where you can catch some of the nuances there sometimes a if it is a vendor bill the bill sponsor will bring someone with them and the presentation won't be presented by the legislature by but by someone else um that those are things to to stay on top of and flag so

152I think that's one way for us to just be aware and members of the community can do that even if they're not able to attend in person or listen in real time those recordings are available um I will give props and kudos to the folks who maintain the legislative website because it is um useful helpful and and easy to navigate and if you want an even easier way to navigate and you use Google Chrome talk to me and I'll help you download a Chrome extension yeah that's great B [Music] um where should I start um you know it is so sad you know to um see the bills like against um diversity um equity and inclusion um I don't know sham shmuck somewhere uh in the country just got up one day and decided wanted

153to enforce this across the country and and and the sad reality is this you know this is a country that is built uh what makes this country beautiful is the fact that it's diverse um and it's the fact that you know it is inclusive um and and it is very sad you know because these are just kind of bills that are like targeting uh marginalized communities disenfranchise communities uh but us as a district I know our motto is always about inclusion it is always about diversity and equity and and you know and I want the community that is listening right now you know especially those who feel that they are disenfranchised they feel they don't belong they feel threatened I want them personally this is me as Muhammad speaking uh want them to feel that

154and know that this is a place that is safe for them that this is a place that you know will make sure that they feel loved and included that this is a place where they'll be able to you know meet people from all walks of life and and they will not be you know uh singled out uh this is hard you know it it's really I don't know how to explain it to you you know you just take the words as they are are you know we don't care about diversity basically we do not care about equity and we do not care about inclusion basically you know we can choose and do what we want if we want this place to be all white we're going to make it do and you can't sue us

155and to me that is just appalling that is just so inhumane and there's just like I just want to let these people know if they are listening to like ask themselves whom ever they believe in as a power being what would they do what would they do would they go and take care of the homeless children or homeless people would they go and make sure that no child is like you know spending the night without food would they go and make sure the uh the the health care is available to those who are like actually in need of that Health Care no I don't think that they are thinking that way and I really hope to God that uh some form of Revelation or inspiration will come to them and help them wake up and

156really know that these are just human beings they all have spent nine months in their mother's wombs and they came the same way we've come and once their journey is over we're all going to share the same dirt at that point it's not going to matter what what skin color you are where you from whatsoever death does not discriminate in any way whatsoever so that's my hope whoever is listening that this will be a wake up call thank you board member babe board member s so I think that I'm going to reflect back on something that was said during our request to speak and it made me think about you know the challenges that um we have as a state but yet the Salt Lake District has risen you know and been that Phoenix at

157times and you think about you know years ago when the state really had no value or saw no value in kindergarten and how important kindergarten was and so our district said well that's great you know that's how the state feels but this is what our District's going to do and I I want to I want to say the same thing about what you're talking about right now Muhammad because built within you know the Dei conversations that we're having hopefully there's flexibility within our district to be able to say that's great let's be compliant with this but here's the flexibility that we can use within our district to say we value you know diversity and equity and inclusion and so this is how we'll do it within the within the boundaries you know of the law

158to be compliant but yet also step outside that box and say how can we now provide the things that we know our children need in our district and I hope that going forward after I step off this board that you never lose sight of that that if you're going to be the flagship you know in the state then it's going to be hard things that you're going to have to do sometimes and you're going to be the odd man out you know in some of those conversations but every time I look back on the things that we've done as a district whether it's been you know talking about our classifications and and including gender identity or you know um just the statement alone you know that we say every child every day every classroom you

159know that that you don't lose sight of that because there's 's always something that we can say that's great we'll be compliant with this but let's make sure you know that we're doing the things that we need to do to protect our kids and provide the best learning safe environment that our students in our city can expect from Salt Lake City School District thank you any other comments or questions for for yandre thank you thank you yandre appreciate it thank you yandre thank you thank [Applause] you all right our next agenda item is school closure and Boundary adjustment transition activities uh before I turn the time over to superintendent Grant I just want to um acknowledge that this is a real sensitive topic as we know based on the public comments this evening and uh

160just ask that the audience maintain the Corum as a superintendent gives her her updates um along with respect for her and her staff oh thank you um a big shout out to uh our leaders in the district in particularly to School principles right now who are picking up the responsibility to smooth the transition for families in schools that were affected by closure or by boundary changes and how much they've done in the last few weeks to try and reach out to their communities and to provide important information we've been focusing at the front end right now on um providing information about open enrollment the ability of families to apply to be in different schools um there have been open houses that have been held at all of the schools that are affected in this to

161try and share information about their school programs and their teachers and and what they're doing and those have really gone well they have um you know there's neat things going on in our schools and it's a chance for the teachers to Showcase that um and to share with a broader Community what they are doing in those schools so um want to thank the community for pulling together to do that there's been a lot of information to parents about Open Enrollment processes we just closed the typical open enrollment period last week this week just opened the new special open enrollment period that is for those families who are impacted by these decisions on closure and Boundary changes so they have until I'm right February 18th in order to submit um an open enrollment application that way

162schools are also um setting up computer supports and providing supports within their schools to help people navigate that process if they need to they're attending to special education transitions um we've talked about that about students moving to new schools and what that means that's done often in schools but just again attending to it one of the things we're doing is also uh attending to the transition of curriculum supplies from classroom to classroom and so um we're going to be designating areas where people can put their books and then those will be moved to the new schools where they're needed so uh everything across the board is on the table about what we're trying to do to ease transitions um you saw that we have made the administrative placements in elementary schools for our leaders there

163um teachers now know who the leaders will be in schools as they make their decisions um and requests for where they want to be placed and um we will have those Staffing ass assignments completed by March 15th early Staffing allocations that um that Allen's team does the fiscal piece with HR and Logan Hall uh the early Staffing allocations went out to schools those are just the early Staffing allocations that allow principes to start making some early plans but then as the year progresses and we get a better sense of how many students will be in the schools there'll be um some updates in the registrations by July Sam and his team with yandere's help have put out a survey to families to try and get an ear read just on what they're interested in attending

164to help us start to plan for that so no obligation but just where do you think you're going as a family so again we can get better and better at those Staffing and allocations so Staffing assignments will be made by March 15th um and so these early allocations may be supplemented particularly for those schools who are receiving a lot of students um because we'll have more teachers then to allocate after these um early assignments of FTE in the schools so we're at that point in this by March 15th we'll have that completed and then um moving on that way um I also wanted to highlight a couple of things that we are doing to ensure that our um the programs that are serving families outside of the school day and these are our after school

165programs our summer learning program program as well as Community programs that are serving students serving families through our schools so there are a number of community organizations that use the schools to help deliver services or programs um so our team is working to connect with those organizations to see if there's ways we can provide Alternatives through our school system or to help them provide Alternatives in the communities to provide those services and then our after school team team and our summer with the summer learning program are setting that up for the New Year too so that it's in schools that are accessible we won't be holding after school in schools that are closing we won't excuse let me say that again we won't be holding the summer learning program in schools that are closing down

166but we will be keeping the same number of seats and hopefully we're working on some fiscal things so we can um staff well to try and meet more of the demand for both summer learning and after school in the coming years so just wanted to give you an update on some of those transition activities that we're doing and we'll have more to say at the next board meeting as we continue on this because we're looking at this every week to make sure that we're staying on top of the details and and particularly trying to help with the communication in schools so if we're missing somewhere please let us know and we're trying to adjust to that any questions any questions on that board member Jensen then Anderson yep I was trying to write down the

167different dates and I hope that I got them is there a way that you could just like send out an email or something that I'll ask do you mean about Staffing well I mean there was March 15th that was Staffing assignments but then like the second phase of open enrollment and you know when those States so I mean I think it's just helpful when yes open enrollment the special open enrollment is February 5th okay so this last Monday uh yesterday um till February 19th actually I got to get the right date 19th I'm looking at my team for confirmation on this February 19th I was just trying to look I think uh it's the Friday it's Friday of that week so I'm just trying to look okay um is the application deadline that way it's

168the 19th thank you um so that's one set of dates the other is just the annual um assignment yeah Assa so the the date to complete that is March 15th okay I got that um Administration appointments was there a date there or is that just ongoing that's just completed okay that is completed for seen those for the elementary schools we just announced a few more changes in our secondary schools um one of the things that's so interesting and I need to highlight this actually is that we had anticipated a certain amount of turnover in staff when we decided as a district to um keep all the jobs to keep all of our people in the district even if schools are closing now that we have um allocated all of the administrators and have seen some

169retirements and some some changes in position there we actually do not have any additional administrators to allocate to schools we came out even on that one with the changes in um things so it was nice to be able to announce that we're keeping those positions um and that we have come out even in the budget as a district um teachers it'll be a little different but we assumed that because there's more teachers so that that n that natural transition and attrition across those positions will probably take another year perhaps two in order to even out so the the cost I think to us as a district in keeping those positions was perhaps less than we may have anticipated but I think was really important to do in stating what kind of District we are and

170the support we provide to our staff and how we want to keep valuable people on hand to be serving our kids over the coming years so really pleased with how that has turned out any additional questions thank you oh thanks board member Anderson and then board member sweat sure admittedly this is not a question it is a comment based on some of the emails I've received where families have gone to open houses and they've noticed there's really different opportunities at some schools yeah and so I wanted to use those messages as kind of a springboard during the transition update to remind families that some parts of transition are within control such as what you raise of the district and in some cases even the board but a lot of activities at a school are really

171created by the community through school Community councils parent teacher organizations but also just the community at large so as some examples in the transition it wouldn't be reasonable for me as a board member to tell a school they shouldn't use their land trust funding to make a full-time visual art teacher and I instead ask them to pay for dance I couldn't do that and I really also wouldn't want to tell a PTA they had to stop funding a Hands-On science teacher and ask them to contract with a theater group or hire a math tutor and so part of the differences a parent may be seeing as they go to these offerings at open houses is not really a failure to equalize enrichment but instead might be based on what parent communities have created over time

172and as new families are engaging in those communities and needs are shifting I would encourage anyone writing or speaking to the board about that process to also be part of generating those shifts by communicating their interests and ideas to existing groups and there is one way that the board enters The Fray of that work of principles and S sic's and that's when we approve Land Trust plans like you noticed on tonight's consent agenda um and state guidance tells us if we notice that all schools were spending Land Trust money on enrichment that we would then as a board have to intervene and offer those things uniformly but the common need we see in Land Trust plans is academic interventionists and so that would ask us you know as the board in this budget cycle to

173consider why that intervention is routinely needed despite our robust funding across academic units so what I'm trying to say is as parents inevitably find gaps between their new school and their past experience I think by all means they should articulate to the board what they'd like to see offered across the district but I do want to mutually acknowledge those layers of governance that led to choosing those things and that it's not in many cases reasonable for to ask us to you know kind of replicate those programs when they happen at the Grassroots level so thank you for let M Anderson share that you explained that very well and I think what people will see as we're putting communities together is the community that comes together may choose a different approach in the future may choose

174to bring something from the previous school to the new school for example in those Community conversations thank you for explaining that board members what thank you um thank you for that update superintendent I the some of the letters that I'm getting about the the Open Enrollment process I don't know if Bryce and Jenny are experiencing the information or the frustration that's come from um the Hawthorne Community could you walk us through what the district's process is in notifying our families of those open enrollment dates because what I'm hearing is that that they're not really getting information into the home so I don't know if a letter has been sent to individual families like if you take the community of Hawthorne are those letters going into each individual home saying this is when you need to

175be able to um be able to participate in the open enrollment piece there's just been a little bit of confusion about that and where I haven't been clear about it I haven't wanted to try and say anything because I wasn't sure what the process was that the district was using yeah we're trying to communicate in a number of ways yandre do you want to help me with this we sent um emails um out to to families early on after the decision was made to explain that process they were tailored to their community so if you're in this program at this school here are your options and how to think about this um so we sent out I think 11 different versions of those emails to try and tailor it to the needs of different groups

176in the community in the community uhuh we also have up on the websites perhaps the clear easiest place to go there or to ask an administrator in the school um for help in in navigating their choices but on the website on the um the name of the page is the Open Enrollment page right um it even has flowcharts that walk people through what their decision structure is based on if there's a special assignment in a school if they have a special permit if they are in a particular program that sort of thing and it helps walk them through what their choices are in that open enrollment so we've tried to make it really clear but anything that's a suggestion that way to get this information out the schools each have announcements about the Open Enrollment

177there in the schools I believe is that right yeah um and if you want me to share some of the other ways before before you do that and you're probably going to say yes but I just want to ask the question so when a parent goes to the website or as they get a letter um are have has um are we taking into consideration the multiple languages thank you and how and how are those identified is that identified do to school does school say to you this family needs to have that information in Spanish this family needs to have it in French I mean whatever how are we dealing with that because that's the other piece of it is you know is the translation coming through either on the website or through the letters yeah

178so our website will translate um I bet the top folks can um oh sorry bottom bottom left corner on a on a browser um select the language in which they want to see the website which will translate everything that's not a PDF um into that designated language and when folks go to our website open enrollment is the first slide on the homepage there because we know right now that's what folks are looking for um when we sent those 11 different letters uh on the on the night that the board voted we followed that up by that the end of that week on Friday with an individualized letter so dear uh parents of Susie um this is what happened on Tuesday at the board meeting here's how it impacts Susie here are your options for Susie

179and if Susie was in a special program then Susie Al Susie's parents also got information on where that program was moving if they felt like they wanted to pursue a different option here's the open enrollment information so we we worked with Sam to make sure that each family got info tailored to their student not just for their school but for their individual kid um so they had the right information um additionally at the open houses that all the impacted schools are holding um the we've created a flyer that summarizes that that information so all the schools have a flyer um the translation uh department is helping us with to get those in the languages that the schools have requested uh we rely on them for that they know the languages that they need the most

180um so we are providing that information hard copies in addition to the web um information tomorrow families will receive they received an email last week reminding them that the early open enrollment period was closing and when families receive an email the school messenger software that we use will select the language the family has chosen at registration so if they chosen to receive it in Vietnamese that email will come through in Vietnamese even though I wrote it in English um and then tomorrow families will receive information not just about the special open enrollment period but all elementary families will also be getting information about dual language we're trying to make sure that we're not just giving um the enrollment info but also the program info and I'm I'm working with Dr Parsons and Dr Maloof on

181making sure that we're coordinating messaging on those um for dual language immersion for example typically will apply through the Open Enrollment process um for after meeting with Dr Maloof I now know that if there's room in the programs even after the Open Enrollment deadlines that families are still able to contact the principal and see if there's a spot for that program so tomorrow families will get dual language info even though that open enrollment period closed because there may still be an opportunity for their child to be part of that program so we're we're trying to take the Nuance into account um and I'm I'm grateful for the other departments helping me to make sure that we're getting the right information to the right people I appreciate that explanation that helps I think it's good for

182our families to be hearing this hopefully some are listening but I also think so maybe as a cautionary just to say we've put these steps in but how do we get feedback to know that it's actually getting out you know whether it's through maybe our school Community Council chairs or through the principal whatever however we can work that out um I think that would be important you know to follow through on that piece of it also superintendent I would just say use your discretion that if we need more flexibility with those dates let's let's have that flexibility so that I mean it's a trying time anyway and so to be able to extend it past the 19th the 19th if need be to to consider that and then my last um do I still have

183a little bit of time um my last thing is um with with the transition of our programs going into other schools so I'll just give you the example of nibbling not thinking that you're going to give answers tonight but maybe in a future update some of the questions that have come up is um how have you done an assessment of space in the building you know um when you're moving the DLI over you know to nibi what kind of um assessment have you done on the building to make sure um it can handle the program and if it's being done in phases you know just to disseminate that information out so that people would know are you doing a k through6 you know DLI right off the bat or are you phasing in if there's

184not enough room which led to is the K8 going to stay a K8 is the seventh and eighth grade going to continue to stay at nible you know and is there space for it even though the program is shrinking and so as a future conversation I think that those are just some of the questions that are coming out of the community as we've moved those program that program over there and also shifted you know um a population you know over to ni alsoo it may be helpful to clear some some of that up right now um because nibbi has a lot of classrooms M there is a lot of space there because it's one of our bigger buildings that is one of the reasons why a DLI program fits there um so we looked at

185classrooms we looked at actually square footage of rooms in thinking about what's a classroom space what's just a small meeting room what's something a gym I don't know um and looked at all those spaces in all of the buildings that we were looking at and then um when making those determinations can DLI go there looking at the classroom needs of DLI and we were we putting in um the Emerson ELP DLI will move there right and then there will be a K8 well sorry k6 Tiffany correct me please if I'm wrong k6 DLI program that will start it won't grandfather in it's starting right away okay so um those classes May grow over time as the neighborhood becomes more accustomed to having that program right there I think that that's super helpful and there's enough

186room that it doesn't crowd out seven and eight just to answer that question um the question of the future of seven and eight can be a later topic with Community there and all but I would say that um even having this conversation just a little bit of that to think about now how do we get that out to the community because right now it's pretty centralized just within the building you know with the teachers and the staff and so I think that you know just figuring out now how do we have a meeting or a community meeting or t whatever you want to call it open house whatever you know just so the community can come in and ask questions about it yes I think that's right and as the spring as we get to

187Spring eventually um those meetings I think will happen more and more the welcome meetings into the new places for families to come um um both as an uh you know a welcome to the new site but also informational I think that's important you're right um May I add one more thing I forgot for board member sweat um one other critical way that we're getting information out specifically on supporting families through open enrollment is um through the principles each of them is hosting and I'll clarify each of the principles who's been impacted by school closure or um schools who are losing students due to boundary realignment they are holding in-person hours for families who may not have access to Internet at home to come physically to the buildings um to fill out an open enrollment application

188if that's what they would like to do so I just want to how are they doing that Outreach shandre I mean how do they identify the families that don't have internet and then how did they re do that Outreach to bring them in it's open to to anyone in the school most of them are pairing it with their open house or family night so it's a time where families already naturally coming into their buildings and they'll have those computers computer labs available um and staff who can support families who might not know how to navigate that process so I I going out to all of the families that are in a section that was moved to a different school yeah so all of those families without an understanding of their resources are not invited in

189yeah advertise schoolwide um and I I want to thank the principles because that is a big lift to provide that in person um opportunity for families but it's critical for a lot of our community membersk you vice president Williams and then board member Jensen yeah um I had a few questions um board member swe actually asked a handful of those already so thank you for um doing that I had questions about uh translation and the uh possible extension of the uh open enrollment period um one of the things I'm curious about and talking about allowing families to come in who may not have internet access and things of that nature um at the and I didn't bring this up yet because I was curious about um waiting to hear um how this information was going

190out um but at the um Mary W Jackson SEC meeting last week one of the things parents said that they would appreciate is actually having a printed copy about Open Enrollment sent out so I'm hoping that that might be something we can accommodate that's what yandre put together with the flyer that's there at the school um did they want that sent to their homes I think is that they said maybe even if it came home with the kids came home with the kids yeah thank you yandre good board member Jensen and then remember big one of the things that I have heard is that um they've been also trying to help during parent teacher conferences and I think that that's a way that we could encourage schools that are you know experiencing that is when

191those children and their parents are coming in for parent teacher conference to explicitly ask them are you being serviced the way that you need to be Serv serviced um with this transition mhm I mean that's happening well right I mean right now parent teacher conferences are occurring or starting to occur it's a good that's a good point um let me bring that up with the team to have the principles asking what else we can do in a sense right what else might be helpful let me mention one thing about the extension of the date this kind of cuts both ways um some families have expressed real frustration that they won't know until March whether or not they're able to get in with the Open Enrollment because we made a special open enrollment period and tried

192to give it enough time that families would have a month at least from the closure date to to get a sense of their options and then enroll so if we extend it serves perhaps some needs um but I think it it cuts the other way in that families become frustrated that the decision is so delayed and they're living in uncertainty and and things so um I'd be hesitant unless we're hearing of real systemic problems of information flow and one of the things Sam is collecting information on all of the open enrollments that we've gotten so far um and things so that we can see how much are how many people are taking this up and can try and understand systemically whether or not it's the communication is working a bit but hearing from you this

193way we'll keep working on that communication with our team um thank you for those detailed information I know this is like a uh a bit of a a u a stressful process I can only imagine um this is a very very critical moment right now is this you know uh step of Paving the path to um a uh something that's going to be permanent for a while and so um I'm going back to the communication part so having letters go to families is really really important because it'll cover the ground for those who have phones or not also put a QR code in there that would like you know families can scan and it'll help them do a translation if they need a translation I'm like thinking here of refugee Community immigrant communities people who

194do not speak English and you know they already feel you know insecure enough and I want to make sure that the information that are provided to them are as clear as could be and For Heaven's Sake you got a person here who speaks Arabic and French if you have anyone that needs any understanding of anything get in touch with me I'll be more than happy to take care of that please I've seen that work at an open house where you helped out that way yes yes just send them to me it doesn't matter what kind of Arabic they speak just send them to me I'll be more than happy to help him with that um also um get letters to community uh leaders you know let's say for example you know um places of worship

195uh it could be like you know within the Polynesian Community leadership and so anyone that we know that's a community they will have their own way of conveying those messages because you know us minorities we have our Network and that network is run by leadership and and those information are actually going to go you know filter really through well this is I cannot stress enough the importance of getting this information I mean I mean if a person that speaks English cannot understand or does not know what the process is what it what does it feel like to someone who's English uh who does not speak the language so please again I am here you know to speak to anyone that needs help understanding that and please and if if I do not speak the language

196I promise you I'll find someone out there who does okay thank you thank you board member and thank you yandre for helping us out with that any other questions or comments all right seeing none we'll transition into item number six on the reports agenda board and board leadership evaluations uh Bryce and I really just wanted to give a quick update um we are in the process of compiling um information and criteria that's been sent to us from you all um we also are going to seek some clarification on a couple of different questions that have come our way um but we also want to acknowledge that um we've received um some different points of feedback relative to um one the timing and the setting of the meeting um that we would evaluate the results from

197that evaluation tool um so we had prescribed the 20th as our potential date to um have Richard bring um results to the board um but it seems like we also might need some more time to think about that as a board um but I would open it up for any questions or comments that folks have um about all the various Realms that I just addressed um and what we're trying to do we do want to move forward um as a leadership team um and I know the board does as well but we just need to iron out um a few of the different points of feedback um that we've been hearing from the board so far Christie so I think that with the conversation that we're going to be having about our calendar that I

198would like to suggest that we we once U Mr stole compiles the information after we've taken the evaluation that we not do that on a board meeting night that we choose another night as a board I think it's more productive you know for us when you're under the gun with time you know if we're going to do it you know for a work session would only be an hour but to do it also during the public business I think you know that um we still have to notice it people could still you know come to the Board Room if they want wanted to you know and listen in if they wanted to hear you know about that but to be able to provide us a time that we can sit together as a board and

199kind of go through that and not feel like we're under the gun with looking at the clock um so I would suggest that when we get to that part maybe we could look at our calendars and see if there's or even maybe even have April send out a doodle you know poll that we could identify some dates that we could come in because I think that um I feel that an evaluation deserves um a little bit more time and you know to be able to sit down and really talk about some of the the things that we have identified or that we'd like to see as improvements so when we move to that piece maybe that might be where we would have that conversation yeah for sure and that's well received um because one of

200the elements of that calendaring is um finding consensus on a board retreat date which we weren't able to find so we're going to have to send out a new pool um for that so we could do a twart twart poll EXC okay thank you you're welcome um but do you keep in mind that would mean that we would not be conducting the results discussion on the 20th on the 20th right so if that's something that the board is in agreement to and we push that to a later date in March um that's something that we're open to for sure any other comments or questions I guess just I just ask that there when I got the poll about the retreat there was only one date on the poll right okay so I only had one

201date too it would be helpful if with both of these items there were multiple dates yeah okay we can ask that um am I getting the sense from the board that we would want to have a separate oh I do well I I feel that way I mean I think that if we're going to do an evaluation we need to take well not if we said that we wanted to have an evaluation and if we're going to have an effective evaluation we need to take the time to do it and I agree with Christie that that if we have it separate then we aren't under that time pressure well I'm seeing most of the board feeling that's the direction that we should go and we can pick that conversation back up um when we get

202to the calendaring part of of the agenda under uh under the discussion which is next which is next all right we will move into the discussion agenda um the first item is proposed amendment to 2023 2024 board meeting calendar um if you open up uh the exhibit there you'll see that March 5th meeting is highlighted um this um is actually really um kind of convenient relative to the discussions that we've had about the importance of caucus kns and encouraging our communities to participate in that along with ourselves um our board meeting is scheduled for Tuesday March 5th which is the caucus night the caucus and so um you know when board or when vice president Williams and I um were talking about that we thought that maybe we would suggest moving it to our board

203meeting to that Monday the 4th um which is something that we would need to do publicly through a board vote um vice president will anything you wanted to add to that no I think you covered it fairly well I just noticed early on that that was uh caucus night and I um also acknowledge that that um half of our board is up for re-election and that might be a space where candidates um either incumbents or new candidates might want to be add and so right I just thought that would be a good idea to have a conversation and possibly change that date so do you need a motion we would so I move that we move our first meeting in March to Monday the 4th can can we on Wednesday oh oh we could like

204the sixth is that better it's a Wednesday is that better for you yeah I can better for you too better for you every Monday okay so the but we still have to move it to action I still have to move it to action so okay so I move that we move our board meeting to March 6th since we have another one should we combine them can we move them there or do we have to do them separately I know to action yeah I just okay never mind never mind it can you re restate your action okay so I move that we move our board meeting to March 6th to our action agenda I I have a motion in a second um any further discussion all right seeing none we'll uh start with a roll call

205Vote with board member Anderson Ashley Anderson yes Nate Salazar yes Mohamad yes right Jensen yes Christy sweat yes Williams yes Jenny seea yes excellent we will revisit that motion um as it passed um when we get to the action agenda um the next is also a calendaring um U meeting um suggested change um if you open the exhibit you'll notice that November 5th uh board meeting is highlighted um which is anticipated to be um election night um which is a significant night for I don't think it's on it is it's separate oh it's on sep it's the next one oh it's the next one exhibit okay it's over here oh there's the another exhibit sorry for the confusion there no that's that's okay oh there okay got it would Wednesday work better again for I

206I I think so go vote yeah we need to okay um before I accept the motion um I forgot to note that there is a star next to the August 20th board meeting um historically we haven't had um two meetings in August yeah we haven't um but we did last year I think in anticipation of um our process and bringing us a superintendent Grant um so that is also um we need to delete that one we we could yes if the board chooses the other item on this one is just to note that the address will change in Midstream as we move to the new office building so that's why that's highlighted we'll have to change the language up front there that says the first few meetings are at this address and the next few

207be at the other one so we can I change that language yeah my thinking is is that we leave that language there until we actually make that move and then bring this back up at the the meeting that will be our last meeting in the temporary location all right so then I move that we question pleas is there a reason it says on the third line scheduled for Tuesday of the month or is that is there a reason why it's written out in that language rather than where are you looking on the third line in the paragraph it says it on both I don't know if it's supposed to say something more specific I should say the first and third Tuesday Tuesday of the month okay should say that so I don't know if you

208would like to move it with additional Technical and conforming changes I'd suggest we just move it and deal with the technical changes oh my goodness Ashley okay I move that we move our November 5th meeting 2024 to November 6th and that we delete or cancel our August 20th board meeting to our action agenda second we have a motion in a second any further discussion uh seeing none we'll start with a roll call Vote with myself uh Nate Salazar yes moham yes Brian Jensen yes chrisy s yes Bryce Williams yes Jenny sea yes Ashley Anderson yes excellent that motion passes and we will revisit that when we get to the action agenda um the third item or I guess the second item excuse me um is p13 Administrative procedures hiring - new um I would turn

209over to the superintendent and uh board or District legal council on policy and legal services Christina kindall hi everyone so um at our board policy subcommittee meeting that we held um at the end of last month um this p13 administrative procedures which is a draft um was proposed to the subcommittee as you all know you passed a new board policy p13 um a few meetings ago and pursuant to our standard protocol we bring all new administrative procedures to the board to make sure that the district is creating administrative procedures that are appropriately implementing your vision for the board policy so um we brought this to to uh the subcommittee as a draft um we recognize um executive director Logan Hall and I recognize that it's not quite as long as some other administrative procedures that

210other districts have for hiring um but that is because there is a lot of information in our various negotiated agreements with the different employee groups that outline how hiring is done for those specific groups so we have um put in the reference section the um links to those agreements so that those can be cross referenced um and we've also articulated um in the administrative procedures um what sort of jobs and employees fall within those um various groups so that anyone coming to the administrative procedures would understand that you know for example Transportation Child Nutrition building and grounds they're all part of the common agreements so they could look there um so we do have four sections in the administrative procedures related to job postings recruitment um hiring manager responsibility and applicant responsibilities um I think

211one of the things too about not duplicating what is in the written agreements is um those written Agreements are obviously negotiated and can change every year and we don't want to have documents that have um conflicting information in them so um that's another point in streamlining this so um I'll turn it over to the committee members to sort of um talk through what our discussions looked like and then um the board again this is just um a discussion item it gives you the opportunity to either um voice some concerns that I could either tweak and work on and bring back to you as um a discussion item at your NE next board agenda sort of as a second reading next board meeting um or if you're good with it we could put it on consent

212um if you have significant concerns with it we could send it back to policy subcommittee so you do have a lot of options in what to do with this document thank you Christine of course um committee members I'm not a Committee Member go no I'm sorry you you talk I mean um I can only speak for myself and please other committee members uh chime in as well but I think in in in general there was support um to move forward with this um obviously that's why it's in front of all of you I think we're open to conversation if other board members have questions but uh in in general there was support yeah any other committee members when we were talking oh oh go ahead when we were talking about this um that was one

213of my questions to Christina was the different negotiated agreements and I mean to me that does make sense to have a link because it is an annual sort of thing um there was something that I um neglected to ask at that meeting and so I wanted to get your input on this I know in the past there has been some confusion about hiring committees and things like that um do we have a procedure with um [Music] that do we have a procedure with how hiring committees go in schools um so that there isn't well they did it this way at one school and they did it another way at another school do you understand what I'm asking I do and the answer is it varies greatly depending on the type of position the time of

214year that the position becomes available as well as um the well mostly the type of position um whether or not it's an administrative position versus like an hourly uh position um so those three different agreements spell out the requirements of who may be required to be on a particular committee ultimately the hiring manager has to be able to select the appropriate people to be on their um interview committee and then ultimately make the the selection as the hiring manager of who to recommend to Human Resources so we can do the appropriate background checks but those depending on the type of of in type of year um for instance like if a teacher position becomes open over the summer we can't force teachers to come in over the summer too to participate in that but um

215schools routinely will ask uh teachers who are available and would like to come and participate to participate on those but there are times where it may just be the principal and assistant principal on a on a hiring or on an interview committee but that's not always the case um often times that is the case if it's um for an hourly position like a a par professional or an office assistant um but in the sense of hiring a principal um there are requirements where we are supposed to have uh representatives from the appropriate Association from um community members um so that there's there's a larger oversight depending on the level and and classification of the the job itself yeah I think in our conversation um in our subcommittee meeting it was just very general that it

216represented the different um associations but it it seems to me like and and maybe I'm grappling with how to address this because I think there ends up being confusion like when you're talking about a principal and a teacher is there a way in the procedures that we could say pursuant you know the I guess I guess I'm not pursuing pursuant to the different Association agreements the hiring committees perform what I I have gotten calls from different individuals [Music] when we've had a position that's been you know open and so there's been confusion well we thought that the hiring committee was supposed to do this and we thought that the hiring committee had been created and then we were told that no the hiring committee had changed and so I'm thinking of one specific instance where

217people had committed to being on the committee and then they were told no we're not you're not on the committee and it was well you know I'd set aside time and right to me it if there was just some way to have some clarification there yeah and I I mean I would say that under Section 3 A2 which talks about all hiring managers are responsible for ensuring each notice of vacancy and hiring process complies with the written agreement of the applicable SSD employee group like that hiring process would include the hiring committee but if you would like me to do a subpart and like call that out I mean I think we could but that's what's intended in the that that the hiring process like whole thing in terms of um creating that hiring committee

218and every and all the other processes would comply with that so but it is the hiring manager's responsibilities to create that committee right and so I had looked under that thinking that would be you know the area and to me I think it would be beneficial if you just pointed that out that you know the hiring committee falls under the purview or the instruction of the hiring manager who's ensuring that it's following the association agreements or I can something to that 100% does that make sense to the other people or yes then my only question would be if there aren't other questions obviously does this automatically go on a third reading or do we need to act on that to give it a third reading with the changes it's up to the board's disc discression

219okay I would always be in favor of additional readings you know just because I think that's a good practice you know for us as policy makers to see what the policy committee brings forward discuss what there is any changes allow for any edits and then to come back um I first want to say that um I really appreciate the thoughtfulness behind this behind this um policy so thank you for that and um when I look at specifically like number seven which is under numeral number 3 A7 and talks about ensuring unsuccessful applicants are notified that has been a criticism of our of our um District so I appreciate that it's been called out in this policy that we need to notify people you know when they have not um successfully gotten the job and so

220that they they know so I appreciate that my um maybe a clarifying question when I look at number four when it talks about conducting an appropriate reference check before submitting a recommendation to hire and then right underneath that submitting all hiring documentation um does that do you feel like that is clear enough when we talk about like academic degrees and and their transcripts and is that what you mean by hiring documentation because I know we've had some you know in the past and so I'm just wondering if that's clear enough that would be one part of it the other hiring documents that we often struggle getting back are the interview notes the uh screening criteria that was used to select which applicants received an interview which ones did not as well as confidentiality statements um

221the background uh in review of the credentials and things happen in the human resource office and not at the um the hiring site at the hiring site so those those would be two separate pieces but part of the conducting the appropriate reference check is there are state required questions that have to be asked and it has to be asked of a previous supervisor of a qualifying employer and so it's very important that they do that instead of like saying I can I can list Christina as my reference but she's not actually my supervisor she's my friend um so she might give me a decent reference or she might not based upon that but we have to receive it from the previous supervisor of a qualifying employer okay I guess what I'm hearing you say and

222superintendent I would say that if this has like cleared up some of the issues that we've had in the past you feel like this has been that is specific and gives good direction to not only the hiring manager but also into HRS you know so that we don't hit some of those stumbling blocks then um I'll just continue to read through and appreciate the work that's been done on it already thanks I think my question uh dubils um along with board memb sweats um especially with the applicant responsibilities and I could even see it with the district responsibilities as well but just thinking about lure um and if that is included in all new hire paperwork doc mentation that's um that's a required responsibility um and for what is that it's also in a two

223see about looking at Cactus and the licensing and making sure that they have the appropriate credentials yeah cuz I I know like with out ofate hires um there's a grace period um that the state offers um a teacher or an administrator relative to the respective license um that they're required to get the Utah State License within um and maybe just being a little more explicit about that could be a benefit to this policy I can do that look good any other comments or thoughts I I get the feeling that with some of the suggestions that we may need a third reading on this so I a second a second read a second reading excuse me sorry the third reading was in my brain from earlier sorry it's getting late for me um but nonetheless um

224if the board's okay with that then we will have the policy subcommittee review it again or just make the changes I could send them out to the subcommittee electronically but we wouldn't need to meet if that works okay and then I just get your feedback electronically and then we could put it on discussion again for the next board meeting perfect okay all right thank you thank you thanks much thank you all right um moving to our action agenda let me get my agenda can I ask a parliamentary question about the action agenda please is it sufficient to move to approve items one and two on the action agenda mhm I move that we approve items one and two on the action agenda second I have a motion in a second and just to be clear

225the the bulk of that for um our record purposes would be that we move the March um 5th meeting to March 6th on Wednesday um then we also move our November 5th meeting to November 6th to respect election night we would be deleting the August 20th meeting on the schedule and we would also be adapting the language to be a little more specific about which Tuesdays um are are in both of these um draft schedules does that capture what we discussed in discussion okay um we have a motion in a second is there any further discussion to the motion all right seeing none we'll have a roll call Vote with uh board member bade Mohamed yes Ryan Jensen yes Christy sweat yes Bryce Williams yes jny seea yes Ashley Anderson yes Nate Salazar yes that

226motion passes thank you board members um with that also um Bryce and I will work with superintendent in April about getting some new do doodle polls out for board retreat sometime in the summer and um an add additional date in March uh solely dedicated to board and board leadership evaluation uh with that um superintendent do you have a report for us this evening I do have some good news um science oriented good news so um I hope you know Candace Penrod in our district office who is the science supervisor she has been made the president elect and will become the future president of the National Science Educators leadership associ naal there which is pretty remarkable and I hope you've had a chance to talk about science with Candace at some point um she's an evangelist

227around science um and also helped create the Salt Lake City School District science and engineering fair that was held over this last weekend um she reported at the end of that that 50 element so a lot of the projects that are there in the science fair advance to further competition and review and things so F 50 Elementary projects 21 Middle School 27 High School will advance to the University of Utah science and engineering Fair which is great that's a total of 96 I think 98 projects going forward so pretty impressive and then four elementary school projects are going to be part of The Invention Convention state competition that's in April um for from the science and engineering Fair which is kind of cool want to celebrate one more teacher here um Samantha Hansen who's the

228fifth grade teacher in math at nibbi Park was just named the Utah State Board of Education math educator of the month so congratulations yeah well thank you superintendent uh board member reports start over start remember sweat and it's not about a budget oh God yeah um so superintendent I I appreciate the updates that we're getting about the closings I think that my mind's eye is about keeping our families in the district you know those families that um where their schools have closed I want them to know that we care about them and that we want them to attend those schools that are still in the in the district so I appreciate hearing you know the the information that you gave us tonight and hopefully you know as we go through this these transitions with our

229families that we're open to hear you know if we can improve in some way shape or form so that would be really great um I'm sure Brian will probably talk about this a little bit but um we had a really interesting conversation this morning with Beacon Heights and we were talking about just our safe route you know our safe walking routes so I live just south of parley's way and you know all of the kids that um walk from Beacon Heights um over and also from Hillside there's a great number of them that cross parley's way and parley's way has become such a hazardous route because um Foothill has become so congested that families have figured out that if they bail off on Foothill and off to parley's way that that gives them an access

230down to 23rd which then will take them over and across over by hleo and I mean they'll find different ways and they'll even go as far down as 20th East which is also our construction site right now and it's super hard you know for to see all of the um in the 30 years that we've lived in our neighborhood that parley's way has become more and more of a hazard so one of the things we talked about this morning is first I think it's important for our schools to know who to contact you know about their safe routes in the district you know I mean in the past it had been Paul schy I'm assuming it's Isaac you know that that's who they'd be liaison with but I also it brought a question this morning

231that Brian asked me and that I started thinking about was that when you think about hazardous routes and we have kids that are middle school kids that are walking that do we wait for them to get hit before we have a conversation and we've already had an accident you know that was on parley's way recently and so I am wondering if we could have a conversation about looking at a courtesy bus that we could run I know it's 2 miles for our middle schools but that party's way has become increasingly dangerous and I think that um to have a future conversation in some way shape or form of either a courtesy stop you know that we could identify for our our Hillside kids you know that they could be dropped off on the south side

232of parley's way because that's getting them from the north corner to the South Corner even with the increase of The Pedestrian lights that are at the top we have some The Pedestrian walking where you punch the button and the light Splash and kids can walk but depending on the time of day if you're going up the street in the morning you cannot see if you're coming down the street because of the Sun and so it obstructs that view and and although there are definitely as Jennifer knows because Jennifer's been over in parley's way you know that there are speed signs they're disregarded and you know we do have a fire station that's there that multiple times I've witnessed that even our firet truck with the lights going is hard to get out into that street

233because they're just flying down you know the especially in the morning traffic so maybe at some point in time to either have a conversation about what does a courtesy stop look like you know would we be able to provide you know um some sort of courtesy stop for our kids that have to cross and parley way is not the only one I know that there are multiple ones you know um across our Valley for our middle school students and that two M radius you know versus the mile and a half for elementary school kids um just for us to maybe have the conversation in the future you know because it's just getting increasingly hazardous along that road thank you for that can I just say we talked a little about that this morning Isaac AEL

234and the team um particularly with the new boundaries and thinking about those safe walking routs yes uh so this information is helpful to add to that pile of information I appreciate that we'll be working is's on the transportation Advisory Board is and is our link with the city that's been on that with Jennifer so with the two of them and um working with the city on this will be really important so thank you for that I think that um just as a future you know and Jennifer will already know this but for us to just ask our our counterparts on the city council to always be looking at their Capital Improvement plan you know and looking for additional monies you know to make sure that our are safe for our kids the last thing I

235wanted to just share with you is um Nate I really appreciate you talking about Black History Month in your opening remarks this morning um or this afternoon it feels like feels like this morning we've been here all day I know um I'm going to pass out to you um a sheet of paper that you know this past week when I was in Washington DC I had the opportunity to hear the most amazing woman speak her name is Juliana Richardson and she is the president and co- and founder of History makers and the history makers which I know that um you know we probably know a little bit about um about the organization but it actually has 3600 oral history interviews 1,200 hours of video 451 cities and towns um it just goes on and on

236about the black experience and um as she talked about this what was interesting to me was just the availability of being able to go in and listen to those oral histories and to look at documentation but to also put your own name in you know and see if there's any connections you know that you might have in cities and towns um anyway I just wanted to share that with you tonight I thought that she was amazing she really the room was just like you could hear a pin drop as she talked about some of the people that she's interviewed and the histories that are in this incredible Bank of knowledge um anyway you can access their annual report if you want to know more about it there's actually a section in the back where there's

237um people that have been interviewed here in Utah like um Sandra um Holland is a part of you know has her oral history in here um anyway I just thought you might find that interesting and as a as a little nugget for you to log on to and and get a little piece of what I got to see that day which was completely amazing thanks Christie board member Jensen well chrisy talked about the beacon Heights and I appreciate U that collaboration between Isaac and Jennifer and um and then considering that as we're making all of these um transitional safe route plans um my assignment is on usba and that JC so I will tell you that on Thursday I will be going to a usba director's meeting um that one will be on Capitol Hill

238I think that what they're trying to do is encourage our presence there um that is one of the day on the hill days that is not our day I'm just reminding you again that our day is February 23rd um but I'll be there and christe will be there on the 8th as well um I it was really great to hear jiah when when you were saying that you had met with um yeah that's wonderful we should all be trying to find Opportunities to do that in the last jlc meeting and I appreciate all of you that have been coming Ashley you make great uh she gives great input and I appreciate that um one of the things that is also available and I think that I have sent links to everyone I'll go back and

239check maybe I didn't get one sent to Mohammad and Jenny I'm going to check and make sure on Thursday nights there's a jlc prep meeting that you can also um zoom into and sometimes that's beneficial if you're not going to be able to be there on Friday or if you're thinking oh I want to have a little bit more insight into what's going to be covered in that joint legislative committee meeting um Bryce I think I I know I sent one to did you get a link um Nate I don't think that I did I can double check though okay um please tell me if you did not get a link I thought that I had done and across the board but if I didn't um let me know maybe what I'll do is I'll

240just send out another one to everyone okay that that's the best way to do it um but in that last jlc meeting on Friday one of the things that they did talk about and I raised it with yandre was those caucus meetings on March 5th if there was a way that we could just encourage the members of our communities to attend because they're the ones that have skin in the game to go to their caucuses and to see um who it is that's being decided to be their delegates and promoting education with those delegates that will be attending the different conventions we've talked about the um policy committee and the uh administrative procedures for hiring and that was my other report so exent thank you I did all my committee business last time so I

241just have fun news to share um and February is fun because it has many notable cultural celebrations including Black History Month as mentioned and Lunar New Year and as a fourth grade constituent down the street would like me to remind everyone Marty gr um I look forward to seeing how School communities celebrate but there's a lot of celebrations this week is also School counseling week and a College and Career week at West High with student government also running a mural competition for the West High clinic and there are details on the Instagram accounts run by the counseling center and the panther pack and I'd also like to shout out those at West selected for All State Choir picked as girl soccer captains planning the West cheer mini clinic and other fundraisers the 11 student entries

242selected for the high school art show at the Springville Museum of Art and the 11 student entries advancing from District science fair on to the regional Usef Fair keeping up with all the activities at West is a full-time job so please reach out to me if I missed events deserving of congratulation and in that vein and sign and wasach also sent a total of seven entries onto USF and I was really proud to judge many of those projects in person at their school fair or online at the district fair and in my last board report I mentioned how these opportunities are not always normalized across our schools and I'd really like to see that happen in relationship to implementing applicable portions of the Strategic plan it hearkens back a little bit to my comment earlier

243in the meeting on parent emails regarding perceived concerns about equalized enrichment opportunities as I mentioned then many layers of governance allow schools to choose what types of programs they offer and why but in the case of district and state sponsored competitions I'd argue there are ways the board and District staff could have a more clear role in shaping expectation and reducing barriers for entry for students across the district and I implore us to continue to focus on those items it's really exciting to watch students succeed in all of these Endeavors thank you board member Anderson student board member Evans yeah I just want to congratulate all the teachers and Educators tonight who got their um national board certification again um I actually I know Emily Petty of course she um she's at Rose Park she's

244an amazing teacher and um Becca hodkinson she taught at Escalante Elementary when I went to osalon Elementary I sadly never got her as my teacher but she has always been amazing to me so congratulations to those two and also happy black history month thank you yeah I have a just a couple of things um I won't go too much into detail because Brian's covered a little bit of it and yand did a big presentation on it tonight um but had the opportunity to attend the jlc on Friday and then uh also on Friday I had the opportunity to do a preliminary walkthrough of the West High Clinic I'm super excited to see uh the space over there and really excited about all the servic that are going to be offered um to our families and

245our students across the district it's going to be a remarkable Place very excited about it and then between now and our next board meeting I think I have all if not all of my nine SEC meetings so that will be fun remember B have the um well um first of all I just want to wish a happy black uh month for for every uh black person within our Precinct and within our district and especially those who are like out here in our district in uh making sure that equities continue to be uh Forefront of every decision we make um and I I encourage I encourage you to uh when you have a chance to just go and read about Eugene Jax Ballard he is the first first African American the first black uh uh military

246uh pilot and you know uh as you all know I'm a veteran so I have a soft spot for veterans and just listening to his story about what it was like being the only black person out there as an officer and uh you he can't talk andless talk to him and just the challenges that they went through and so but never they persevered until he became the first ever you know uh us uh pilot you know and that was just like fantastic to read about those so those are just like few of inspirational stories and I want today to send this message to our kids who are uh black in our pre in our district I want them to know that they can be that pilot as well they can be uh that president they

247can be whatever they want to I hope that they will always be able to stand strong and no matter what the challenges are in front of him that they can actually you know get up dust up and push forward because life does not handy to us easy it's just the reality of life um and also I had the uh honor of going to um open house at uh weier and every single parent that came and visited the place you know they were uh extremely excited they were extremely excited you know and you see the principal out there you know she's out there welcoming them and just like meeting them in person you know and talking to them giving them a tour and you know seeing the superintendent out there and and funny parts of some

248people that did not know who the mayor was there you know and they were just introducing her to the school knowing that she is Mayor she knows about the school and just like so many amazing thing it's such a a positive energetic space for sure and uh lastly to our families who are you know really frustrated or I would say exasperated with the process and a decision that's been made um I beg of you that you uh give us a chance to move forward um the district have worked very hard I empathize with you you know my kid is going to move school um I wish that was not the case but nevertheless the change is eminent and essential look at Salt Lake City how big it is and what it used to be a

249little Valley and suddenly changes are starting to take place and look where we are right now chains is a essential but I know if you can just trust us and if you have suggestions bring them to us so we can make next process even better and that is the only way for us that we can come together and make sure that those kiddos have every tool that they need so that they can also eventually will be closing some schools who knows you know so um and I just want to take uh I want to thank also uh my fellow Bo board members um and the superintendent and the business administrator um you know I know it's been a rough patch uh but I love and see how we are like supporting each other and and

250that to me you know means a lot you know it's the only thing that keeps me up you know in the morning well wakes me up in the morning and be ready to look at those emails and I do not respond to many I'm sorry about that um yeah but that's uh you know we have a great district and uh I look forward to um you know a very successful transition for a new school year thank you member board member sea I don't have anything excellent thank you and I don't have anything as well um so that concludes our meeting and I will call us adjourned thank you Lord have mercy all right I drove oh yes oh she's my representative so I've got to work with her she's been