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School Board Meeting Workshop, May 12, 2026

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YouTube / VBSchools
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2026-05-13
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Virginia Beach city, VA
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6,435 words · about 36 min
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2026-06-08

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001Hey, hey, hey. Heat. Heat. Good afternoon. My name is Kathleen Brown  and I call this administrative informal   and workshop session to order. Madame clerk,  would you please announce the role? Thank you,   Madam Chair. President in the schoolboard chamber  or chair Brown, Mr. Cole Pepper, Miss Felton,   Dr. Green, Miss Melnik, and Miss Rogers. Thank  you. Um, Mr. Cummings is delayed. Um his wife had   some car troubles. He told me I could say that.  Um and so as soon as he's done assisting her,   he will be on the way. Miss Dwire is running a few  minutes behind and also is Vice Chair Williams.   Mr. Kalen has another um obligation today and he  will be delayed if he can make it at all. Okay. Um   and we are now on to the administrative matters  and reports and I

002want to turn it over to Dr.   Robertson briefly so we can talk about the retreat  agenda. Yes. Um I emailed out a draft um last week   of the retreat agenda for everyone to review.  I didn't know if you had any thoughts about   uh anything we wanted to add, anything that was  missing. Uh the time to get that retreat agenda   together is soon so that my team can ensure  they're ready for those topics. I haven't   received anything back from anyone. Okay. And  so we'll we'll bring that to the board in admin   matters next week as well. We'll just have  that dropped out here again. So with that,   Miss Melnik. So while I participated la in uh  last month's meeting, I was Zoom and I so I was   not sitting in this seat. Um and I would

003have said  this last time, but I'm going to say it right now.   Um, last week was teacher appreciation week and I  just wanted to send out my heartfelt appreciation   for all of our teachers who show up every day  for our students, who love our students. Um,   some of whom are in in their classrooms before  I open my eyes and are still doing work. Um,   when I close my before I open my eyes, I close  my eyes at night, they're still working. Um,   I just want them all to know that um,  you are loved, you are appreciated, and   I am truly grateful for everything you do for our  students every single day. Thank you, Miss Falton. Thank you, Chair Brown. Appreciate that. Um  colleagues and listening public and audience as   we progress through the month of

004May I would like  to highlight several key observants that honor   our history and promote collective wellness. Uh,  I'd like to promote and recognize mental health   awareness month, a time to focus on mental  health issues and promote wellness for all.   Asian-American and Pacific Island alers heritage  month celebrating the immense contribution of   AsianAmerican and Pacific Islanders. Jewish  Heritage Month recognizing the rich history and   culture of Jewish America. Military Appreciation  Month, honoring military personnel and their   families, including observance at loyalty day and  military spouse appreciation day. And most of all,   teachers appreciation week, May through  May 4th through the 8th, a dedicated time   to show our educators that they are valued  and deserving of our support. And Friday,   I attended at least five schools. It was awesome  uh running around from school to school and being   with the

005teachers and they were well celebrated  by the students and the administration as well.   We also reflect on a pivotal moment in our history  more than 70 plus years ago on May 17th 1954 the   United States Supreme Court delivered its landmark  unanimous decision in Brown versus Board of   Education. The ruling is the ruling establishing  that racial segregation in public schools violated   the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment.  We remember the plaintiff Linda Carol Brown born   1943. She died deceased in 2018 whose courage  sparked a prolonged struggle for civil rights and   eventually transform our educational system.  As can as Kansas Governor Jeff Kyog noted,   Linda Brown's life served as a reminder that by  serving our community, we can truly change the   world. Thank you, and I appreciate the time,  chair. Thank you, Miss Rogers. Thank you.

006Um,   I also want to take the opportunity to acknowledge  um recognitions and celebrations within our   community. Um, this has been a a year of my doing  this. So, I would also encourage anybody who wants   to um uh communicate with me. We can um not do  uh this twice. Um, Haitian Heritage Month honors   the rich culture, history, and contributions  of Haitians globally. Featuring art, food,   and music. It highlights the resilience of  Haitian community with the Haitian flag day   serving as the centerpiece of the celebration.  Indian Heritage Month, which focuses on history,   culture, and contributions of Indian-Americans and  features cultural events, art exhibitions, musical   performances to honor the diverse traditions of  India's states. The community participates by   supporting Indian-owned businesses, attending  community parades, and learning about Indian   history. Jewish American Heritage Month, which  honors the more than

007360ear history dating back   to 1654. It highlights the contributions and  achievements of Jewish Americans to the nation's   culture, society, and history. Established by  a presidential proclamation in 2006, the month   highlights the diverse stories of American Jews,  fostering education to counter anti-semitism.   National Asian-American Pacific Islanders  Heritage Month recognizes history, culture,   and significant contributions of Asian-Americans  and Pacific Islanders who have enriched America's   history and are instrumental to America's future  success. It commemorates the first Japanese   immigrant arrival in May of 1843 and commemorates  the community's impact on American science, art,   diplomacy, labor, and history. Mental Health  Awareness Month, which is a time to fight stigma,   pro provide support and educate the community on  mental health. This is an annual campaign founded   in 1949 to highlight the mental h that mental  health is a crucial success for overall well-being  

008and encourages people to seek help for conditions  like anxiety and depression. It encourages people   to share their own stories, break the silence, and  build a community of support. From May 4th to May   8th, the community celebrated teacher appreciation  week, which recognizes educators contributions to   our students in our community. Students honored  their teachers with gifts, special events,   and school activities. On May 1st, the community  celebrated School Lunch Hero Day, which honors our   nutrition professionals and their dedication to  nourishing our students, managing food allergies,   and supporting students education by making sure  our students are fed. On May 5th, the community   celebrated Cinco de Mayo, which commemorates the  Mexican army's victory over France at the Battle   of Puebla. It became a popular celebration in the  United States in 1863 in California as a form of   resistance to France

009for their interference  in the American Civil War. On May 6th,   the community celebrated School Nurse Day to  honor the specialized care, health advocacy,   and safety school nurses provide to our community.  This day recognizes the crucial roles nurses play   in our in supporting our students health and  academic performance. On May 18th, the community   will celebrate National Speech Pathologists Day,  which recognizes the crucial work of SLPs in   treating communication, language, and swallowing  disorders. It honors SLPs who work in our schools,   hospitals, and clinics to help individuals improve  their ability to connect and communicate with the   rest of the community. On May 21st, the community  will acknowledge World Day of Cultural Diversity   and Dialogue and development, which highlights  the importance of intercultural dialogue, peace,   and sustainable development, encouraging global  understanding and respect for diversity. It   promotes the need

010to bridge the gap between  cultures to ensure peaceful coexistence and   social cohesion. And finally, on May 25th,  the community will recognize Memorial Day,   which honors the US military personnel who have  died while serving in our country. It's a time   for visiting graves of those who have fallen in  service and volunteers will place American flags   at the graves of national cemeteries and families  will spend time with loved ones to remember their   fallen heroes. Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Green.  Thank you. Um, no recognitions. Uh, Madame Chair,   I I have um a request if I may that may  help with some of the recognitions. Um,   last earlier this week, we received an email from  a parent with regards to how we put things on the   website recognizing certain months, days, etc.  And in this case, um, after

011her email, uh, we   ensured that our Jewish community was recognized  this month. Um so I would like to make a request   that possibly at the retreat or at another time um  as you deem appropriate that maybe a subcommittee   of the board could be formed as to review  what recognitions we can do and and possibly   even go back to some of the resolutions because I  remember a time when teachers were recognized. So   I do respectfully ask that for your consideration.  Thank you. Great. Thank you. And we are now on to   the Mercer update. And we welcome Crystal P, chief  financial officer, Linda Matkins, director of   consolidated benefits, and David, I'm sorry if I'm  saying this wrong. Keo, senior principal Mercer.   Good afternoon, Chairwoman Brown, Vice  Chairwoman Williams, school members, Dr.   Robertson. This afternoon's presentation provides  the

012next quarterly update on the health plan,   including updated claims experience through March  31st, 2026. We will also review projected employee   rates and the relative impact. Again, I am joined  by David Kio, principal with Mercer, who will   lead most of today's presentation. Following  his remarks, I will uh review the projected   employee contributions and discuss the impact of  these projections. And then at the conclusion,   we'll be happy to take any questions you may have.  And with that, I will turn that over to David. Thank you very much, Crystal, and thank  you all for having me here to provide an   update on the health plan projections. On the  agenda slide, you'll see we'll talk about the   uh projection in for both the calendar  year, which is the health plan year,   as well as the fiscal year.  And then,

013as Crystal mentioned,   we've got some rate exhibits that will show  the contribution scenario for the 2027 year. So, this exhibit will hopefully look familiar  to you in that uh I'll point out a couple   of minor changes along the way here, but  uh this is the shows the projections for   uh 26 and 27. The 2025 plan year is  obviously complete. It's on there   just for a frame of reference. Um,  so I'll focus on the 2026 column and   you can see there the gross cost is 126.0  million which is a slight improvement. Uh,   moving in the right direction based on improved  claims experience from the update that I shared   with you all. Sorry, do we have an electronic  copy of this? I can't read this. It's tiny. I have I have the I have this one. It

014was asking  is there an electronic one? I didn't see one in   there. Did I miss it? isn't there. Okay. Thank  you. Um so the the projection of 126 million for   uh the full year 2026 is a slight improvement. So  um as you'll recall we use we want to use the most   updated claims experience that we have available  to us and that is u through March of 2026. And so   the 2026 column there illustrates the projection  for the balance of 2026. Um so you'll see the   employer contributions are projected to be 103.0  0 million employee contributions 17.5 million for   uh a total of a 120.5 and then there is projected  to be a reliance on the health fund of 5.5 million   and that sums to the total projected cost of 126  million. And that 126 million

015uh represents uh   about a 7 and a half% increase from from the 2025  plan year. The health fund balance you'll see uh   as of March 31st, 2026 is 14.1 million and we are  anticipating a $9.8 million additional draw down   for the balance of the year leaving the health  fund balance at $4.3 million. So that is below   the projected target, the desired target which  is shown uh on that row there which is 212ths   of the annual costs and it's uh $21 million. So  the the estimated balance at the end of the year   represents about 20% of what we would desire. Um  and so I would would share with you again the part   of the function of that health fund balance is to  help the plan withstand unfavorable experience and   volatility uh as it occurs. And so

016in that sense  uh the health fund is uh did did its job which was   to help fund that uh experience. And we we've  talked about in some of our prior meetings the   uptick in the in the trend over the last couple  uh of periods. uh and so the health fund was there   to absorb those costs. Um and then I'll make uh  one note uh as to a change here is that uh we had   previously had in the exhibit for 2026 a one-time  infusion of 5.8 million and we were advised to   remove that line item. So if you uh reflect back  to the prior presentation, you'll see that has an   an impact on uh on the on the estimated health  fund balance um as well. So with uh with for   2026 then with those contributions that

017are in  place uh employee and retiree contributions of   17.5 million if you divide that by the total gross  cost of 126 million you'll see that the employee   and retirees are paying uh approximately 14%  13.9 to be to be specific uh rounds to 14%. So,   if you'll just uh hang on to that figure,  I'll reference that when I talk about 2027. So, 2027, you'll see that the projected  cost, total gross cost is $137.6 million.   And what we've been advised to include here is a  scenario that calls for a 10% increase to employee   and retirey contributions. So we used our updated  experience which as I mentioned improved slightly   to make that projection for 2027. So we're at  137.6 million employer contributions we were   provided the figure of a budget employer rate of  121.1 million and at the

01810% illustrated employee   retiree increase that is expected to be 19.2 2  million uh which sums to 140.3 and that actually   is uh would would provide a a uh contribution to  the health fund. So that's a negative formerly is   a negative draw down which is a contribution.  So you'll see a negative number there um and   that reduces the liability from 140.3 to 137.6. So  under this particular scenario, it is uh projected   to make a slight contribution to the health fund  uh over time over 2027 uh based on again based   on this particular particular scenario. And so  the balance at the beginning of 20 2027 is 4.3   million which was the projected ending balance for  2026. Uh and then uh the additional 2.6 6 million   into the fund results in a projected health fund  balance of 6.9

019million expected as of 1231 2027.   So slight contribution increase to the health  fund balance and that means that it would cover   approximately 30% of the desired target. So 2026  is at 20% for 2027 under this particular scenario   it improve the coverage of the desired target  health fund balance improves from 20% to 30%.   And you can see the figures uh the figures there.  Um so I'd asked that um I'd done the calculation   as to the percentage of the total gross costs in  2026 that employees and retirees paid and that was   13.9%. we'll round it to 14%. That same figure  under this proposed scenario is uh it increases   just a whisker from 13.9 to 13.95%. So under this  scenario, the uh the retirees and the employees   would pay virtually the same proportion of the  total projected gross

020costs. Um, if you could,   I think we're talking about a different slide  than the one that um is shown on the display. So,   I'm on slide four on the display. Which slide are  you um referencing? Yeah, that's Are we still on   slide four? Yeah. Yeah, we're still Yeah, I just  had some confusion up here as to whether or not we   hit Okay. Yeah, I apologize. Yeah, we're still  talking about this slide. So, we're still in   the making sure. Thank you. Yep. Yes, ma'am.  Um, and so with this projection methodology,   we've got the details in the appendix, which um  we don't typically go through, but happy to do so   if if you all uh would like, but I'll I'll just  remind you that we incorporate some underwriting   principles to do this projection work. So, we  use

021the word trend a lot, and I'll I'll you know,   I'll just just refresh your your memory as to  that concept. There's a there's a factor that we   apply to the claims experience and that's called a  trend factor. And what that does is that allows us   to project using your experience to project into  the future and we adjust it by that trend factor   uh on a per capita basis and that will allow  for uh increases in unit costs for healthcare   services as well as increased utilization  that is occurring. And so the factor for   that is 9% and then we've also incorporated  uh 2% margin into that into that projection. All right. Okay. So that's for the plan year.  And then the next exhibit is the identical format   but it's for the fiscal year. So that obviously 

022covers the period July through June. And again,   we've got fiscal year 25 on there for  reference. It's obviously complete.   The fiscal year 26 is in the middle. And  then fiscal year 2027 under this scenario   where there's a 10% increase to employees and  retirees. Uh so the gross cost for the fiscal   year 2026 is projected to be 121.8 million.  And then the contributions are a blend of   2025 that occurred and 2026 that occurred.  And those figures you'll see there are 102   million for the employer contributions, 14.2  for employee and retiree which sums to 116.1. And then there was also uh during this  period the reliance on the health fund   uh is expected to be 5.7 million. And so  that results in a a health fund balance   projected to be 11.3 million at the end  of the

023fiscal year. So that takes the   estimated 2.8 million subsequent draw  down over the course of uh between now   and uh the end of June uh is is taken off  of the current balance of 14.1 million. And so when we look at fiscal year 2027 uh  well I guess I'll also remind you too is   um the the primary difference between the the plan  year projection and the fiscal year projection is   the fact that we are projecting further out into  the future for the plan year. So the fiscal year   is lower. There's some seasonality in there as  well but but it's also we're projecting further   out into the future. So, recall we had talked  about adding uh for every month it's about   $800,000 additional that we're adding in to  account for growth in expenditures out into   the

024future. So since the fiscal year projection  ends in June of 2026, the plan year ends in   December of 2026, the plan year would expect  to would be expected to be a higher figure. So for the fiscal year 2027, the ELF fund balance  uh is expected to improve to 12.4 million. Again,   we're using the exact same experience through  March for both of these projections. The only   thing that's different is the  time period. Um, and so that   uh estimated health fund balance represents  about 57% of the of the desired target amount. All right. So for the scenario the 10%  scenario that we've talked about here   uh this chart and and Crystal as she mentioned  is going to go into some more detail on this but   uh this is how the annual costs break out  between the employer

025and the employee and then   uh in the royal blue the columns to the right  for reference are the 2026 contributions. So   you'll see I won't read them by each tier,  but they're broken out by plan and by tier,   the annual contribution, and then the employee  contribution increase is in those those right   two columns. So the 10% is the far right that  represents the percentage increase. And then the   dollar amount on an annual basis, you can  see in that column there. So for example,   employee only on the school's point of service  plan that would increase 12659 on an annual   basis and again Crystal will will drill into  that. Uh so this is the activives exhibit and the next page here is the same exhibit,  same increase percentage 10%. the dollars are   are a little bit different

026because uh the rates  and contributions are a little bit different,   but you can see the employee, it's labeled  employee, but for this particular exhibit,   it's it should be retiree uh  in those dollar increases. So,   I'll just give you the one example there to to  steer your eyes on the school's point of service,   a retiree only would be 30749 would be  the annual increase at this 10% increase. So, I'll turn it over to Crystal now. Uh, I'm  happy to answer some questions uh when when   she wraps this up, but she can get into  some of the details on the on the rates. Thank you, David. Um, David covered a lot of the  stuff that I'm probably going to talk about. I'm   just going to try to point out some key things  because he's put a lot

027of information out there.   I want to go back to slide four,  the one we were talking about. So, returning to slide four, four  on plan your year projections,   um, we wanted to point out that the employer  contributions, as you can see behind my map,   um, our contributions are projected to increase  from 103 million in 2026 to 121.1 million in 2027.   That's an increase of $18.1 million or 17.6%.  So by comparison, employee contributions are   projected to increase from 17.5 million in 2026  to 19.2 million in 2027 and that's an increase   of 1.7 million or 9.7%. So these projections are  demonstrating that the increase in in our employer   contributions continues continues to significantly  outpace the increase in employee contributions and   as a percentage of cost. David referred to how  the employee was 14% but when you look

028at it as   a percentage of cost the employer contribution  is about 88% of that total cost amount and then   for employees it's kind of like 12% of the total  cost because our contributions are right now in 27   coming in a little bit higher than the total cost  that's being projected. Um so that's further just   demonstrates what we're trying to do with this  health fund and what we are trying to um provide   employees with a competitive compensation plan. Um  David also mentioned the $2.6 $6 million in plan   year 2027 that was shown in red on the table  um under the impact on health fund reserves.   That does not represent a reliance on the health  fund balance and rather reflects a contribution   to the health fund resulting from the 2027 gross  cost projection decreasing from the level

029assumed   when we budgeted the 121.1 million. And it's I  know a lot of information gets put out there,   but that 121.1 million was based on November  2025 claims experience. And so we budgeted at   the time we had to do that to create the budget.  Um but that has gone down. So um that's why you   see that contribution to the health fund  of 2.6 million being projected for 2027. So when Oh, I'm going the wrong way. Can I go? So, just to go back to the the tables, the initial  tables that David covered for the uh active and   retiree rates. Um I think he did he did what he  what it says. We just wanted to make sure that you   realize that that it's reflecting the employee  e contributions uh for 2026 plan year and what  

030that's so that's what employees are paying right  now and retirees and they are currently paying   to a projected 10% increase for plan year 27 for  both POSOS and the CDHP plans across each coverage   tier. So that's going to be both on active rates  for employees and I don't know why I keep hitting   this wrong button and also for the retirees. These  next two slides uh illustrate what a projected 10%   increase for plan year 2027 would look like on a  per pay period basis for active employees and a   monthly basis for retired employees. So for  active employees enrolled in the POSOS plan   with employeeonly coverage, the projected increase  would be $6.33 per pay period over 20 pay periods.   The remaining tiers reflect the corresponding  dollar increases. For an active employee   enrolled in the CDHP plan with

031employeeonly  coverage, the projected increase would be 48   cent per pay period over 20 pay periods. And  again, you see the remaining tiers reflecting   the corresponding increase under this plan as  well. And I'll give you a moment to review that. So this turning to the retiree rates uh for  retirees in the POS plan with employeeonly   coverage, the projected increase would  be $2562 per month over 12 months. And   the remaining tiers again reflect the  corresponding increases for the o other   coverage tiers. And for retirees enrolled  in the CDHP plan with employeeonly coverage,   the projected increase would be $1216 per month  over 12 months. And again, you see the remaining   uh that reflect the corresponding increases.  And I'll give you a moment to review that. So, we just wanted to go back and  point these things out and

032drill a   little bit down into how this impacts the  employee based on this projection. Um,   so that concludes our presentation, but we will  be glad to answer any questions that you have. Miss Rogers, thank you. Thank you for the  presentation. I appreciate the thoroughess.   I I think my overall question is is this  actually sustainable? It seems that 17%   increase on the employee employer side and 10%  on the employee side as we continue this doesn't   seem like it's going to be sustainable. Is there  I I guess I want to know is is this something as   far as us staying self-insured? Does that make  sense? And and and the reason I'm asking is I   understand that we are tied to the city, but we  have double the employees. And so I feel like   we should have the

033ability to have direction  for um our employees because we are covering   more than double what the city's covering. And  I just don't want it to be that our employees   and our school division is spending so much  on medical that it's going to start affecting   our student services and our ability to even  retain employees because our healthc care is   expensive. It's very expensive. And I'm took a  quick peek. there are other Hampton Road school   divisions that are not self-employed and that  we're finding that their coverages are better,   more affordable. I shouldn't say better, more  affordable. And so, this is where I'm I really   would like Consolidated to look at how can we  make this more affordable for ourselves and for   our employees going forward because if if the  projections are we're going to keep increasing,   we're

034not going to have employees that can  afford it. I mean, it's simple as that. It's   this is and and I'm I understand how the market  is. I understand that that's where we're going,   but we have to make it so that our employees can  afford it. And this just doesn't seem sustainable.   That's just my overall comment. And and and  I mean, not y'all's fault, but I that's what   I would like is for consolidated benefits to  really give us information on what can we do to   make this affordable. And if that means not being  self-insured and that the city is not self-insured   and we bring in other companies that can insure  us and it's more sustainable and affordable for   employees, that's what I would like to see. Do  you want to come? I am not the insurance

035expert,   so I want to if you can talk to like the not  being self-insured. Sure. Sure. Happy to. Um,   so I a couple of points I would make is is that  right now we are rating we're looking at the   claims experience distinctly for the school's  population and the city's population and we're   and we're projecting and rating accordingly and  um and you're right your population is larger. Um   sometimes that uh has resulted in a cost per  per person being higher, sometimes it's it's   it's lower. In general, the law of large numbers  says that you would expect uh over the long term   a little less volatility the larger the group.  Um and so that that finds its way into the into   the projection and hopefully add some stability.  Um, from a funding perspective, the the primary   differences

036between self- insurance and fully  insured where the health carrier assumes the   risk for that volatility is that there are some  costs that are charged under the fully insured   environment that over time put upward pressure on  the cost. And those namely are risk premium. So,   if they're going to assume the risk of of gain  or loss, they're going to charge a premium. So,   they embed that in there. Uh there are also um  state premium taxes because any fully insured   policy is subject to state premium taxes. So,  that adds a little bit of upward pressure. You   don't pay that on anything that's self-funded. Um  just a small portion of your plan with stop-loss   is considered um uh insured. So, there's a little  bit of tax on that. Um, and then there's you also   lose the ability to

037customize your benefits.  There's there statemandated benefits that would   have to be incorporated in there. Um, so those  so over the long run again entities have to be   able to withstand some volatility yeartoyear.  That's inherent in self-funding. So um but over   the long run you you would be expected to save  money relative to fully insured by virtue of not   paying risk premium to insurance carrier. So they  target um a loss ratio that's in that you know 80%   uh range. So that means over the long run  they're expecting hoping to charge for their   services including assumption of risk uh in the  neighborhood of you know 20%. And I think my   concern is that if we wait for the long run too  long we're not going to have employees to ensure   because we're not going to be able

038to retain  them. And so that's where my concern is. We   have to be able to be competitive with all of the  other districts around us. and this is making us   very uncompetitive. And so that's my concern.  And I think that even like I just I don't know   how to fix this other than can we look at other  options. That's that's where I'm coming from. Yes,   ma'am. It's a very fair request and we're  working with the consolidated budget office to   u benefits office to to look at alternatives  look at initiatives that we can do to help   enable the population to to you know be as healthy  as they can be and and you know engage in their uh   screenings and get a relationship with a primary  care physician. All the things that hopefully will   improve health

039outcomes and and and the quality  of life for for the employees and their and   their dependent. know um duly noteed it it is a  challenge these these numbers um it's it's not a   cons no consolation I'm sure uh but uh the right  now what we are seeing for 2027 across our book   of business is uh in increases that are north of  um the the the nine plus percent that that you all   are seeing so I know that's no consolation there's  a lot of challenges right now in healthcare   there's a lot of developments ments a lot of  contributing factors that are driving up the cost.   Um many of them are help helping individuals, you  know, treat treat and manage their conditions.   Um but it is expensive. So I appreciate that  feedback. Thank you so much, Mr.

040Co Pepper.   Thank you for providing the uh the electronic  version via email here. It's hard to follow all   those numbers without being able to look at it  and without a magnifying glass. Old eyes. Um,   I'm having but I I'm still having a hard time  following some of these numbers and and I'm trying   to keep track from brief to brief about where  this is tracking, you know, for the exactly the   same thing she's asking about, which is is this  a sustainable track we're on? So, last time you   briefed this was February. Is that right? Uh, I  believe it was in March using 2025 data. So, we've   added new data. Okay. uh think I'm looking at the  news the newest previous brief from the one I have   here and whether it was February or March that you 

041briefed this your projected uh balance at the end   of 26 was $18.7 million in the previous brief  right and now it's $4.3 million I'm asking this   partly to understand where if if both of those  projections take into account the same things So, we let's see. We briefed it last time. We,  for example, talked about $5.8 million that we   were going to inject from our budget uh into  the uh into the fund. Right. Am I remembering   that? That's right. Yep. That's right. Okay.  So, your numbers from the brief today take   into account that $5.8 million. They do not.  So, we were I'll let Crystal address that,   but we were advised to remove that line item from  these exhibits. Okay. So, we as David mentioned,   we did remove the $5.8 $8 million that  was originally approved in

042the reversion   resolution that was approved by the board. Um it  went into the school reserve account which is a   city account. Um following some clarification  regarding those funds um and when those funds   would be released by the city um at this time  those required qualifications are not present   and so due to our efforts to continue to increase  the employer contribution um we don't anticipate   right now meeting those requirements. Um, so it's  to say it in a summary that we don't expect the   city to release that based on our financial  position at this time. Okay, that's fair. Um,   but they did they did put it in the reserve fund  earmarked for this purpose. Is that correct? It   is it is in that reserve fund right now for that  purpose. Yes, sir. That notwithstanding though,   that would

043even if I included that year, that  would take us up to $6 million as your projection,   which is still $12 million different from last  time. I don't see the numbers tracking, you know,   from your gross cost and the other contributions  tracking for a $12 million discrepancy. That's why   I'm a little bit confused. I apologize. I don't  have that previous um exhibit. Um Okay. I can   maybe grab you after then. I can show you. Yes.  What I saved and how it compares here. Maybe you   can explain to me. Absolutely. Discrepancy. I'm  clearly happy to do that. All right. Thank you. Okay. I don't see any further questions. Thank  you. Um, Vice Chair Williams is going to read us   into closed. I move that the school board recess  into closed session in accordance with exceptions   to open

044meetings law set forth in the code of  Virginia 2.2-3711 part A paragraphs 127819 and 29   as amended to deliberate on the following matters.  One, discussion, consideration or interviews of   prospective candidates for employment, assignment,  appointment, promotion, performance, demotion,   salaries, disciplining or resignation of specific  public officers, appointees or employees of any   public body and evaluation of a per performance of  departments or schools of public institutions of   higher education where such evaluation necessarily  involve discussion of the performance of specific   individuals. Any teacher shall be permitted to be  present during a closed meeting in which there is   a discussion or consideration of a disciplinary  matter that involves the teacher and some student   and the student involved in the matter is present  provided that the teacher make a written request   to be present to the presiding officer of the  appropriate

045board. Nothing in this subdivision,   however, shall be construed to authorize a closed  meeting by a local governing body or an elected   school board to discuss compensation matters  that affect the membership of such body or board   collectively. Two, discussion or consideration  of admission or disciplinary matters or any   other matters that would involve the disclosure  of information contained in a scholastic record   concerning any student of any public institution  of higher education in the Commonwealth or any   state school system. However, any such student  legal counsel and if the student is a minor,   the student's parents or legal guardian shall  be permitted to be present during the taking of   testimony or presentation of evidence at a closed  meeting. If such student, parents or guardians so   request in writing and such request is submitted  to the presiding officer of the

046appropriate board.   Seven, consultation with legal counsel on  briefings by staff members or consultants   pertaining to actual or probable litigation  where such consultation or briefing and open   meeting would adversely affect the negotiating  or litigating posture of the public body. For the   purpose of this subdivision, probable litigation  means litigation that has been specifically   threatened or in which the public body or its  legal council has a reasonable basis to believe   will be commenced by or against a known party.  Nothing in this subdivision should be construed   to permit the closure of a meeting merely because  an attorney representing the public body is in   attendance or is consulted on any matter. Eight,  consultation with legal counsel employed or   retained by a public body regarding specific legal  matters requiring the provision of legal advice by   such counsel. Nothing in this subdivision

047shall  be construed to permit the closure of a meeting   merely because an attorney representing the  public bodies in attendance or is consulted   on any matter. 19. Discussion of plans to protect  public safety as it relates to terror terrorist   activity or specific cyber security threats or  vulnerabilities and briefings by staff members,   legal counsel or law enforcement or emergency  service officials concerning actions taken to   respond to such matters or a related threat  to public safety. Discussion of information   subject to the exclusion in subdivision 2  or 14 of 2.2-3705.2 where discussion in an   open meeting would jeopardize the safety of any  person or the security of any facility building   structure information technology system or  software program or discussion of reports or   plans related to the security of any governmental  facility building or structure or the safety of   persons

048using such facility building or structure.  29. Discussion of the award of public contract   involving the expenditure of public funds,  including interviews of biders or offerers,   and discussion of the terms of scope of such  contract where discussion in an open session   would adversely affect the bargaining position  or negotiating strategy of this public body,   namely to discuss a appointment of citizen members  to the schoolboard advisory committees effective   July 1st, 2026. B personnel matters related to  VDEO investigation. C. Pending student matters.   D. Determination regarding regarding student  discrimination complaint appeal. E. Princess   Anne High School CIP project. Discussion on  RFQ for owner agent and design bill status. F.   Discussion with legal counsel and staff regarding  security matter. G. Status of pending litigation   or administrative cases. And H. Consultation with  legal counsel regarding probable litigation and   pending litigation matters. Okay.

049Motion made  by Vice Chair Williams, seconded by Miss Dwire.   Any discussion? Seeing none, I call for the  vote to go into close session. Madam Chair,   we have nine eyes. The motion did pass  for the for going into close session. Whereas the school board of the city of Virginia  Beach has convened a closed meeting on this date   pursuant to an affirmative recorded vote  and in accordance with the provisions of   the Virginia Freedom of Information Act.  And whereas section 2.2-3712 of the code of   Virginia requires a certification by the school  board that such closed meeting was conducted in   conformity with Virginia law. Now therefore, be  it resolved that the school board of the city of   Virginia Beach hereby certifies that to the best  of each member's knowledge only public business   matters lawfully exempted from open meeting  requirements

050by Virginia law were discussed in   the closed meeting to which the certification  applies and only such public business matters   as were identified in the motion by which  the closed meeting was convened were heard,   discussed or considered. All right.  Motion made by Miss Malnik, seconded   by Dr. Green. Any discussion? Seeing none, I  call for the vote to certify close session. So, Madam Chair, we have nine eyes. The motion  to pass for certification of close session.   Okay. We will now recess um for dinner break and  reconvene with our formal session at 6 p.m. I had   a sign this year. So, you're the next one next  week. But if he doesn't come, will you do the   art competition? There's something very wrong  with my America. Look, there's an issue, right?

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