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School Board Meeting Workshop, March 10, 2026

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YouTube / VBSchools
Date
2026-03-11
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Virginia Beach city, VA
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11,511 words · about 64 min
Collected
2026-06-08

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001Good afternoon. My name is Kathleen Brown,  chair of the Virginia Beach School Board,   and I call this administrative informal and  workshop session to order. Madame Clerk,   would you please announce the role? Thank you,  Madam Chair. Present in the school board chamber   are Chair Brown, Vice Chair Williams, Mr.  Bowensteel, Mr. Kalen, Mr. Co Pepper, Mr.   Cummings, Miss Dwire, Miss Felton, Dr. Green, Miss  Melnik, and Miss Rogers. Okay, thank you. We are   on to administrative matters and reports. Um, I do  want to very briefly mention the Pearls of Wisdom   tickets that I have with me. I did text and call  um I believe everybody today and if I did not,   I will catch back up with you and make sure that  I can meet up with you sometime this week to get   them to you. Miss Melnik,

002thank you, Madam Chair.  Um I just wanted to make a comment about a topic   from last week's budget meeting. Um and that is  specifically um Chromebooks in our classroom. So   when it comes to education, I really look at  myself as very measured and thoughtful about   educational decisions. And I have um someone that  I call my barometer, if you will. Um a former   um elementary school teach uh principal and  someone that I was proud to work for. And he   walked me through these steps and he talked about  a pendulum and um in education. he uh he really   offers great advice all the time. Um so in my  discussion with him and after the results of the   last PRC meeting which was the day after um our  last schoolboard meeting I'm really nervous about that the Chromebooks

003becoming a policy. Um, I think  that instruction, the development and delivery   of instruction is for the people that sit here  in front of me. Um, otherwise I don't know why   we would have them or a superintendent. Um, and  so in my conversations with constituents across   the division, I'm asking for if it's going back  to policy or if it's staying in policy review   that perhaps we all or at least policy review can  come to a consensus that we can eliminate preK and   kindergarten Chromebooks and that we can make sure  that um it's minimal use in first grade and second   grade and that nobody can take them home. Um at  least to give us an opportunity to maybe have some   measurable data after the first year. Um, I'm I  guess what I'm saying is I'm very concerned

004about   an educational decision being put into policy. And  so I'm asking my policy review committee members   to seriously give that some thought um as we move  forward with that discussion. Thank you. Thank   you, Mr. Bowensdale. Yes. I'd like to talk about  the protocol that the uh general advisory council   proving. They had a meeting, a committee meeting  not just a couple couple weeks ago at Princess   Hannah Middle School and they showed what was  going on. They had a video of everything and it   was really cool that the students got a hands-on  opportunity to see what was going on to check   and there was a lot of graduates that were there  working that had gone to the advanced training and   the vote tag. Also, the Green Run Collegiate Gayla  is this Saturday at the Weston. So, keep

005that   in mind. It's a great fundraiser. And finally,  Thursday in Richmond, we got some basketball games   going on. Just want to give a shout out to Lance  Town for class six and also PA Girls and Green   Run Boys that are going to be representing class  5 for the state finals. Okay, Miss Rogers. Thanks.   Um, first I wanted to recognize it's reading  month and thank the elementary schools that   have reached out and asked us to be readers.  And hopefully we can um get more opportunity   to read in some classrooms this month. But I also  want to take the opportunity to acknowledge the   following recognitions and celebrations within the  community. In the month of March, the community   will recognize the following. American Heart  Month, a nationwide observance by the American   Heart Association and Center for Disease Control 

006to raise awareness about cardiovascular disease,   which is the leading cause of death in America.  This month encourages Americans to focus on heart   health through lifestyle changes, CPR training  and supports initiatives like National Wear Red   Day on the first Friday of the month to pro  to promote heart health especially in women.   It is ethnic equality month and that is dedicated  to recognizing the importance of diversity, foster   inclusion and promote equal rights. Actually, that  is incorrect. I will have to finish March because   everything I typed apparently got saved for  February. Unless I can repull this up and it saved   it. Hang on one second. Go ahead, Mr. Cummings.  I'll circle back, Mr. Cummings. Yep. Um, I just   wanted to give a quick little report on some of  my recent activities with our beautiful, wonderful   schools about six,

007seven months ago. Uh, I went to  uh the National Night Out and saw uh our community   partner um uh the the public library system and  they talked about some of the great work they   do with our schools and uh was specifically with  our prek uh program. And so I they told me about   a field trip that our title one prek schools get  to get to attend. And I had the opportunity two   weeks ago to attend this field trip with our prek  kids, ride the bus with them, read to them in the   morning. I had so much fun. Um it was right up my  alley. And I want to report back that I did get my   library card while I was at the Kimsville library.  And so it was a lot of lot of fun with

008the with   the College Park kids. And so I wanted to express  my thanks to uh Miss Silverman, the College Park   community, Kimville Library, our public libraries  as well are doing some great community work. Uh   it's awesome to see. The kids were so excited.  They were amped up in the morning about going   on this field trip and I had so much fun. And  so the other thing that I got to attend was uh just I'm bringing show and tell school board  meetings just so you all know is I got to go   to the uh what is it the high the the VPA  the visual performing arts um barbecue that   they had or haiku RQ that they had where they  showcase student art. They had clay going on and   um screen printing and got to see some

009of the  great art that our students from Salem are doing.   I was just so impressed. There's about hundreds  of art pieces there being shown by the community,   shown by our kids, and it's, you know, sometimes I  just, it's fun just to go and see the product of,   you know, Virginia Beach schools and how great,  you know, our kids are doing, how wonderful our   teachers are, and to be part of, you know, this  event to help raise money for for the academy.   And I just had a great time there and wanted to,  you know, just share share about that experience.   And I think the final thing that I wanted to  share was about national or app reading national   appreciate reading month. That's a mouthful  today for me. But uh I had the opportunity   to go to

010Salem Elementary and had a great time  there sharing one of my new books. Can you hug a   cactus? I don't know. We'll pull the classroom  and see what they think if you can hug one or   not. But I've encouraged school board folks just  to continue to participate in this activity uh   and reading to our kids. It's a great opportunity  to connect with our schools and just see see our   schools in action. So want to report back on that.  Thank you. Thank you, Miss Falton. Thank you,   Madam Chair. I would like to tell my colleagues  about the opportunity that I have to had to   uh to visit and to be involved with the face um uh  event that they had on Saturday. And I was just so   impressed with what they did and how they did

011and  how it came together. And of course, our students   were there. Uh even volunteering for the works  that they were doing. I got to meet a lot of them.   Uh happy about it. But I was really impressed  with the faith having uh over 300 RS RSVP from the   community and we had over 16 partners presented  at this event and it was really great. And that   include and that did not include the four or five  food trucks that they had there as well. I was   overwhelmed with what I saw and got to uh see a  lot of things that were being showcased. But what   really impressed me was the uh beacon face mobile  truck. Really impressed with that. And that was   um refurbished by it was a truck that we had.  was sitting around that the

012uh Virginia Public   Schools had and they refurbished it and Baypoint  Credit Union did a tremendous job on this truck.   and inside the case that where they had uh shelves  and storage space that they had because the beacon   brings Virginia Beach City Public Resources  directly into the neighborhood strengthening   the connection between homes and school by  expanding families access to academic support,   health and wellness services, parents learning  opportunities and tools that promote student   success. community partners. The mobile unit  provide guidance on attendance, behavior support,   literacy and activities, technology, assistant,  career exploration and connection to essential   resources such as housing and financial support.  These were the partners that we had also financial   support uh wellness, mental health groups that  were at this event. It was just great and I   would like to see Dr. Robert Sand would like 

013to see a little bit more of us uh investing   in that because our partners are doing a lot.  They're doing a lot with this. But to do all of   this what they're doing and we only have one truck  to get around to the whole community and they're   providing these things. It was really fantastic. I  was really blown away with that. Most importantly,   our students were there asking question. And Miss  Woodhouse, you might be getting a lot of calls   from them concerning some things that they asked.  I said, "I know the person you need to talk to."   So, you probably get some phone calls and emails  as well. It was great. Our face department is   doing tremendous work and we should see we should  get out and see all that they're doing. Thank you.   Thank you.

014Um, Miss Rogers, did you have any  other reports? I'll have to circle back. Uh,   everything I typed before I got here is  gone. Okay. All righty. Well, we will now   move on to budget workshop number seven. and we  welcome Crystal Pate, chief financial officer. So, good afternoon, Chairwoman Brown, Vice  Chairwoman W, school board members, Dr. Robertson.   As Chair Brown mentioned, this afternoon marks  our seventh budget workshop presentation. This afternoon's agenda is displayed on the slide.  Like previous workshops, we'll start by addressing   any questions received by schoolboard members.  Next, I will walk everyone through the navigation   of our front-facing website for budget and  consolidated benefits. During this brief overview,   I'll highlight a few key sections that are  designed to keep our stakeholders informed   and upto-date on our available resources  and important updates. I will then provide  

015an budget update and then we will move on to  a seon budget balancing discussion. Finally,   going over remaining key budget dates and  outlining next steps. There was one request   from the last schoolboard workshop to provide  a line item detail of the budget and post it   to the website. Um the fiscal year 2027 C online  item detail has been posted to www.bschools.com. And so now we are going to and I'm going to say  attempt because I've never done this before to try   to navigate. Um Regina's going to help because  she I can't uh do it from the from the podium.   And so I'm going to first cover the benefits um  website. So we go to um www like benefitsthebe.com   and from this home screen you can scroll down  and select I am new here. And this

016is and then   as you scroll down that page is an example of  information for newly hired employees and things   that they need to be aware of in their first 30  calendar days that they're employed. If you go   back and there's a lot of information, so I'm just  trying to hit on some highlights. If you go back   to home and then goes all the way down past that,  there's some at uh stay up tod date. Um so this is   um to show the communication resources available  to employees. They have items that scroll across   the top about different um ideas like  mobile clinic, EAP. Um they also have   um the be wellbe that's on there. They have the  benefits e bulletin and then um we're advertising   where the be well beach bass which beach bash  will be

017uh vendor fair will be um on March 28th and then if you go to the top under  benefits under the benefits main page   you can scroll down past these tiles and  each of these tiles you can click on and   get information on any of that those plans  that's available. Um and as you scroll down,   um you can get to at the pink you can  get to the benefit plan rates. So these   are going to be the 2026 rates for our plans  for all employees based on what that employee   um status is within the division and it would  be like health and dental and um legal and um   all of the plans that we have. But that gives  a concise place for those rates to be posted. Then if you go back up to the top

018and go under B  well and the B well main page and you scroll down   and select view B well eligibility. So again this  will show all programs and eligibility again based   on where you are as an employee in the system.  And then the programs are listed on your left and   it kind of tells you where you fall within what's  available to you based on your employment status. And then if you go back up to be well again and go  to resources at the bottom and scroll down um you   can show all the resources that are available.  So there's a calendar, a newsletter, a podcast,   there's a BWall guide, um if you keep going down,  there's all of these well-being resources on all   kinds of things. Um social, emotional, physical,  there's all kinds of financial well-being.

019So,   there's a ton of resources out here um under  the SPA platform for our employees. If you   go to the top to financial and retirement  and then what we're going to do is go down   uh to um thinking about retiring there, they  do have like I go up a little bit, Regina,   like Yeah. And then go to learn more, but you do  have a new hire in midcareer. Yeah. The learn more   right under the last um all of Yeah. Yeah. And  so what this does is so if you're thinking about   retirement, you go there. This kind of gives  you like five steps of the things you need to   look at and consider as you begin thinking about  retiring from the school system. But there's also   information if you're just starting as a new  hire or

020if you're in mid-career. So that kind   of like can give you places to go as you proceed  through that if you if you so desire. If you go   back up to the top to eligibility and enrollment  and then there's a main page. Oh, go home. Yeah,   go home. Sorry. Oh, more. Oh, it's not like that  on my screen. Okay. And then go to eligibility   and enrollment main page. And you scroll down to  show the plan eligibility by member type. Again,   this is a chart based on where you are as  an employee and then all of the plans or   programs that are available and what is  eligible to you. If you scroll back up,   you can go under for example full-time and  full-time equivalent employees and then   um you can click on that full-time one, Regina. 

021Thank you. And then this kind of for example gives   you all this information if you are a full-time  or a full-time equivalent employee and all the   information available to you related to your um  your benefits. And then if we go I guess under   more into resources and so in contact. So this  page will actually explain the benefits office   contact information here and how to get a hold of  them. It also allows you to schedule a counseling   appointment um through our appointmentuler to  make any appointments that you need. And then   if you go back through resources again to more  and then resources and select communications   and events and then you scroll down to show  communication methods and um and then expand on   view more items right underneath that and so this  basically shows all of the

022communications that we   have newsletters podcast Instagram and then we  also um show a calendar of all the events and   that's kept updated for that. So, that is all  available to our employees. And there's also,   and I failed to do this, but there's  there is a video that's out there, Regina,   if you go to the home screen again and then scroll  toward the bottom. I think it's where it's at. That video right there. It's a 13 minute video   because but it's extremely well done  and it provides a ton of information   for employees and stakeholders if they  would like to review that information. And so with that, I'm going to  move on to the budget website. And so that's under bbschools.com. Yeah, that second link. So, this is where we keep the budget.  So, on the news,

023if she opens that,   this is just like latest news. So, right now,  because we're right in with the superintendent's   estimate needs, that is actually posted  there and you can get to it from there.   And if you close that and if you go up  to quick links and you go under budget and then you scroll down and these are our  resources. So if you click on superintendent's   estimate of needs, it has our current um  superintendent estimate of needs out there.   It also has all our previous years out there. It  also has the line item detail that I mentioned   that we posted out there based on the request from  the school board. And then the latest March 3rd   budget balancing is also posted out there. If  you go to the comprehensive financial report,   that's our annual financial

024comprehensive report.  The external auditor presented that to you all a   few weeks ago. And so once that's presented,  we post all of those um under that tab on on   the website. The operating budget tab, that is  all of our approved budgets. So once so we have   through 2026 out there. Once 27 is approved, that  will get posted under this tab. And then the last   one is the capital improvement program. And again,  those show everything that's been out there. The   proposed is out there now. And a lot of previous  years are out there for anybody that wants to go   out there and look at the information. So, we  hope that was kind of helpful not only to you,   but to the stakeholders that may be um watching.  Um does anyone have any questions about I've had  

025to go through it kind of quick. There's a lot of  information out there, but I want to make sure we   don't need to maneuver back through anything.  Miss Rogers is yours about this site. There   you go. Yeah. Um, I just wanted to ask about the  benefits whether you had like beginning career,   mid-career. How are you designating beginning to  mid for the employees? Is it just for like um uh   probationary and then non-probationary just just  so that if you're using it you understand where   you will be at if you're kind of like just after  your beginning. Yes. So the new hire is meant   pretty much for that. Um you know you were a new  hireer you may not be paying attention. There's   a lot coming at you when you're newly hired.  So, it's just a place

026to kind of go back and,   you know, re-remember, you know, set up  your beneficiaries and, you know, look at   your retirement savings plans, uh, look at your my  VRS account, you know, those types of things. Uh,   remember to enroll within 30 days, right? Um,  there is another on that um tab where it has   the steps. I think there might be five. One of the  tabs is financial wellness, and that'll take you   even deeper to to go into some of those things.  So there's not a specific time line around it,   but it's it is that one tab is mostly, you know,  you were newly hired. Midcareer is just everywhere   in between. It's it's more about um financial  resources. So it's just reminders about things   that you may, you know, look at your beneficiaries  every year. Um

027you know, just making sure that   you're contributing to your cash match, you know,  all of those. And then just providing resources.   There's so many resources on there. There's  resources for you to get to our vendor sites   um where they have resources. And then the main  one uh or the the one on the end for retirement   that is not a specific time frame either because  planning your retirement starts years in advance.   And so that is meant and so we recently sent  a postcard and it went to a lot of people. It   was over 4,000 people in the division. But what  it was intended to do was we looked at everyone   that was within 5 years of a reduced benefit.  So that could be even pretty early. You know,   you may not be planning on a reduced

028benefit.  Um, but we targeted those people cuz you need   to start planning. You need to start looking at  all of those things and making sure that you're   prepared at the time you want to retire. I just  I think my question was more like the difference   between the new hire and the midyear is what I'm  hearing and you can correct me if I'm wrong is   that the new hire information has a lot more um  step by step where the mid would be you already   know what you're doing because you've done all of  these things and and okay so and and I think that   that's important that our staff understand that  it's not just for new hires but if it's for this   is for more stepby-step information just so that  if I've been here for 15 years

029but I still don't   know how to get to whatever resource I can go  into the new hire and then find those directions   because again when you've been doing something  for a long time and then suddenly you're asked   to do something that you haven't been asked  to do for before or you haven't looked at   before you might need those directions so  that's where they would live is that what   I'm curious and the new that on the homepage the  where it says I'm new here that is more intended   for your brand new hires. But there's if you go  to that financial page where it had the new, mid,   and retire um retiring, that one goes into more  detail of probably the someone that's been around   longer. Like we for those for that tab, we're  targeting people that

030were hired in the past year.   So it's not like a brand new hire. So we are going  to be sending communications to those people.   So every year we're going to look back in the past  year, the past calendar year and um and target   them to to look at that page. Okay. So for that  very purpose of what you're talking about. Okay.   Like I'm just trying to get uh clarification.  So thank you so much. You're welcome. Okay. All right. If we go back to the  presentation, please. Thank you very   Yes. The next one. Thank you very much for  your help. Um so this next item is going to   be on our budget update. Um it summarizes what  we currently know about the state budget and at   this stage these items are still recommendations.  The detailed information

031was shared during last   week's schoolboard workshop. So I will not review  everything again but I will give you a moment to   look over. We tried to summarize it a little bit  more than what we presented to you last week. So the House and Senate have each passed different  versions of the bannual budget and the House has   rejected the Senate's amendments. Lawmakers  have now appointed budget conferees who are   working to negotiate a final agreement.  These confere conferees will reconcile   the differences between the House and Senate  proposals before a final final vote is taken.   As a reminder, and I mentioned this last week,  there is a rule requiring members to have 48 hours   to review the proposed budget document before  voting on it. Given that the general assembly   is scheduled to end on Saturday, March 14th, it

032is  hoped that a conference report will be available   by Thursday at the latest. During this final week  of the general assembly, the focus will be on the   floor activity in both chambers, continued work  on the state budget, and key conference committees   that are still meeting. Several major issues  remain under discussion. Teacher compensation   remains a major difference between the two budget  versions with the House proposing a 2% increase   and the Senate a 3% increase. Many budget  amendments are also being recalculated based   on updated standards of quality cost estimates  that were released in December. And in addition,   conference committees are likely to meet on issues  related to collective bargaining, English language   learner translators for parents and diabetes. Both  chambers include adjustments to special education   add-on funding as well as continued funding for  the school construction assistance program.

033We are   unlikely to see any major changes to the state  funding structure until the joint subcommittee   on elementary and secondary education funding  completes its work. So in summary, the general   assembly has not yet finalized the budget. Both  versions remain under negotiation and a conference   committee will combine them into a final budget  before it is sent to the governor for approval.   The conference committee process is often where  the most significant funding decisions are made. So again, you've seen this several times. Um  the next two slides show our budget balancing   as it's been previously present presented.  Um so um we can determine if there's any   additional discussion about items you may want  to exclude or include using additional funds   that we do expect to get from the state.  you will later in this workshop hear some   compensation

034related items that you may want  to consider and we can revisit that discussion and I'll let that happen at the end. So we  continue to show you the remaining key dates   upcoming in the state's budget process.  Saturday March 14th is general assembly   adjourns send Tuesday March 17th schoolboard  workshop if needed. Tuesday, March 24th, the   adoption of the Seon and CIP. Monday, April 13th  is the last day for the governor to take action   on legislation. Tuesday, April 14th, tenatively  is a presentation to city council. Wednesday,   April 22nd is scheduled date for the general  assembly to reconvene if needed. And then Friday,   May 15th, city council approval of the city budget  as required by code. If you have any questions,   please feel free to reach out. Questions can  be emailed to Dr. Robertson, Miss Woodhouse,   myself, or

035Miss Ingram for CIP questions.  Please submit questions by Friday of each   week so that responses can be provided at the  following Tuesday's meeting. And weekly workshops   will continue leading up to the adoption of the  budget on March 24th. And I want to thank you for   this time this afternoon. And that concludes the  presentation. Be happy to answer any questions. Miss Rogers. Um, on slide seven, I  maybe I missed it a different time,   but I'm noticing additional drivers and and bus  drivers and funding for achievable dream zone   expansion. I I thought we voted on that last year.  You did, but we had to put it in the budget. Oh,   so this is for what we had already voted on.  This is an additional. Okay. I was confused   on that. Thank you, Vice Chair Williams. Um yes, 

036Miss Pade on on um slide six. Okay. So, the 5.3   million for the additional health insurance  contribution increase. Obviously, that's to   go into the health fund. Um right above that, the  9 million approximately 9 million employer health   insurance contribution increase. What does that  do for the premiums of our employees? that at this   point is the rates based on the latest projection  from Mercer that are actually we've put into our   system to calculate through payroll as a deduction  based on what employees um choose for their plan   to actually put that employer contribution into  the revenue for the health fund. So where the   5.3 is more going directly into the health fund  balance that 9.2 is the rates that we have used as   an that based on Mercer's latest projection. And  you have to realize there's already

037rates built   into the budget. So we have worked to try to make  sure that as the latest projection for Mercer that   we're covering what the employer cost is um for  for that. And I think right now I think we were   at the 10% um for the employees, but no decisions  obviously have been made on any of that. Okay,   that was going to be my next question. What  was the percentages? Okay. Well, that's what   I thought because I thought that we had mentioned  that none of this does anything for those rates,   but that percentage is helpful. Okay. I just  wanted a clarification to make sure we have   to put those employer rates in to balance the  budget and obviously if you as we know if things   as we get more up-to-date information, if that  changes, we'll

038have to make those adjustments,   right? Okay. Thank you so much. Okay. Um, I I want  to comment uh briefly about what increases are in   here because I do think that it's important that  I don't blaze over it. I am happy to see that we   have $22.6 million in increases to teacher pay,  11.1 million to unified. Um, I do hope that we can   kind of fix that compression issue. Um hopefully  in future years I would like to see that. Um but   I I just wanted to mention those those positives.  It sounds like there may be hopefully some more   that we can allocate to that but I think it's a  good start here. Um and then of course you know   we have another 9.2 million into benefits and  um I'm glad that we're doing all that. But

039um my   questions are um so under increase of landscape  services it says it's 179,000 um for increased   landscape management. Have we um continued to  analyze as a division if it's most cost effective   to continue that partnership? And I'm assuming  that it probably is because of the plowing and   whatnot. We have and yeah exactly and there's a  lot of different services and I don't know Mr.   Free wants to ask, but there's a lot of different  services that I was even educated on last year   of the things that the city um does for us and  certainly this year, the plowing and all of that.   And certainly we have to increase that because the  raises for city employees. Okay. The service level   will stay the same. Okay. And then I just wanted  to confirm uh the McKenna Vento

040V Vento Ven Vento.   Thank you. Uh the five drivers that also includes  the vehicles, correct? There's vehicles cost in   there as well. Yes. All right. Um increased  funding for utilities. Are we sure that's   going to be enough? Um well, I will be honest with  you. So when we did the seon right now, we weren't   that's what the latest projection is. However,  I believe based on recent um developments that   that is looking higher than we expected. We are  aware of that and as we go through the final state   money and the adjustments for the budget, we will  likely have to increase that. Okay. All right. So,   we just need to keep an eye on that. And yeah, and  even like and this would house a point also fuel   because we're also starting to see that fuel

041go,  right? And we didn't when this was developed. So,   we're aware of those and um Mr. Freeman's  group is doing a great job with keeping us   a breast of those um estimates of those rising  costs. Okay. Um and then the increased funding   to the Virginia Beach uh digital campus stipens,  those are teacher stipens, I'm assuming. Okay,   great. Um and then my I just had a question about  the governor school increase. Um it says summer   residential governor school programs and um maybe  my colleague here um that serves on that committee   might be able to that governing board might be  able to comment on that but I was just a little   curious what that is and is that different than  the summer other summer programs and offerings.   I don't want to speak but I mean I believe

042that it  is because we had a question about that when the   request came through and it's it's it's has to be  paid for you. Yeah. So that represents an increase   to the cost of our students who participate in  those two programs to the tune of it looks like   boy glasses would be nice. 40,000 right 25,000  for the summer and 15 for the residential. Um I   I'm assuming that's the regular school year. All  right. Thank you Miss Melnik. So often we have   people ask us why we don't spend down to zero.  And so that's why Chair Brown's question about the   utility costs was really an important one. And so  for anybody that's watching this now or is going   to watch it later, that is why we don't spend down  to zero. That's correct. Because we don't

043these   are unforeseen circumstances and we prepare for  them um properly. Um and so I'm I'm glad she asked   that question. Yeah. And I'm I am too because we  do say this, but we do try to stay with about 98%   of our budget and keeping a 2% because we know  things like this happen and that, you know,   we need to have that available flexibility  within the budget. That's great. Thank you.   And I would just like to follow on that. I don't  know if we have a fuel reserve in our budget, but   um I would be interested if we do, you know.  No, we don't. No, we don't. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Madam  Chair. If I could just make a couple of comments   before we go to the next presentation. Uh, 

044one of the things that we've we learned   um over the last year is um we have so many  resources that are available for staff, it   becomes overwhelming to them. And so, we've taken  a new approach. David Den brought this approach to   us two years ago and created the opportunity for  us to send snapcoms uh out periodically to staff   with key information. If you think of a snapcom,  it's the it's the the trailing line that comes   at the bottom of your screen when you're watching  a movie. This is emergency, something on or hey,   breaking news. So, we strategically send  out snapcoms related to our benefits   um to our staff and what we have found is the  hits to people visiting our staff has drastically   increased because they're getting those reminders  say, "Oh, you know what? Let

045let me click on this   because you got to click on it or it's going  to come back again." Um to to just learn more   information. And it goes to Miss Rogers question  earlier. How are you defining these things?   There is just so much information out there for  our staff. And so what we're trying to do is is   is go to the medians and the mediums that  they're using like social our social media   uh uh data that that Miss Lavis shared in senior  staff on Monday is exploded over the last couple   of years because we've adjusted from things we  used to do that were not reaching the people to   the to the way that people are accessing their  information now. So very proud of that. And   um and then again um proud that uh anybody  wants

046to find out what's going on with the   budget or benefits, it's transparent.  It's out there for you. You can see it. Thank you. All right. We are now on to recruitment  and retention funding considerations to enhance   compensation educational benefits. Welcome Dr.  Darnita Tropman, Chief Human Resources Officer.   Good afternoon, Chairwoman Brown, Vice  Chair Williams, members of the school board,   and Dr. Robertson. This afternoon, the Department  of Human Resources will present options for your   consideration to enhance employee compensation  programs. Each of these items reflects our   commitment to ongoing efforts of strengthening  competitiveness and supporting recruitment   and retention efforts across the division. Given  current market conditions and ongoing compensation   adjustments being made by neighboring divisions,  Virginia Beach City Public Schools must continue   to evaluate opportunities to ensure that the  division remains competitive. With the school   board's support, significant

047progress has been  made in aligning our pay scales. We value your   ongoing collaboration as we continue moving these  efforts forward. At this time, Miss Judith Wood,   coordinator of classification and compensation,  will present several opportunities to build on   that progress as we continue to attract and retain  a high quality workforce in supporting student   success. At this time, I'll turn it over to Miss  Wood. And I'm going to preempt Miss Wood just   real quickly. The reason we're giving you this  information because we there's there's no money   in the budget to do anything that you're getting  ready to see. But by the time a state budget comes   in, you're going to get very little time to try  to make modifications. So, we're trying to be   proactive in sharing information with you so that  should additional funding come in

048from the state,   you've had a chance to digest what what are some  things based on your priorities that you could   do. And that's what this is really about because  everything Miss Wood is getting ready to share   with you has been something school boards, the  school board of Virginia Beach over the last 10   years has been trying to make inroads in, but  we never had enough to do it all at once. So,   for those of you have been on the board for  quite some time, you're very familiar with   these because you've been tackling this for years.  And so, for some of you that are new to the board,   um you're getting this information for the  first time, but it really represents years   of ongoing work trying to address a situation.  Miss Chair Brown mentioned the unified

049scale   as an example. Um that's something we'd like to  do, but there's a price tag that goes with it.   So Miss Wood, thank you Dr. Tropman. Thank  you Dr. Robertson. Okay, so to help frame our   discussion this afternoon, we have organized  the presentation around several key areas of   employee compensation for your consideration.  First, we will review the unified pay scale,   including historical background information and  an option for consideration. Next, we will discuss   part-time rates for our temporary employees.  We will then review educational allowances   for advanced degrees, followed by the employee  professional development reimbursement program,   otherwise known as tuition reimbursement. And  then lastly, we will conclude with additional duty   supplements to provide some historical background  around the unified pay scale. During the 2022 2022   school year, the division partnered with our  compensation consultant, Seagull, to improve  

050the salary scales and create a structure that is  transparent and easy for employees to understand.   For the unified pay scale, the recommendation  was to implement a consistent 1.5% between steps   and an operating cost of approximately $18 million  due to funding constraint. I was right. Excuse me,   I'm going back too fast. Um, due to funding  constraints, the scale was realigned to provide a   1% difference between steps 1 through 14 and 1.5%  for steps I'm sorry. I'm going to give it to you back one more. Are you going? Yeah. Yeah.  Leave it there. Um, due to funding constraints,   the scale was realigned to provide one a  1% difference between steps 1 through 14   and 1.5% for steps 15 and above at a cost of  approximately 15 million. As part of the work,   several positions, including those held

051by some of  our lowest wage employees, were also reclassified,   and that structure remains in place today.  Employees on this scale received an average   increase of about 7% with the intent to complete  the full adjustment the following year. This   option shown on this slide increases the entry  level pay for the unified pay scale by 2% and   adjusts steps 1 through 14 to a 1.25% difference  between steps. Steps 15 and above remain at 1.5%.   This results in raises ranging from 2% to 7.14%  at an operating cost of approximately 15.4 million   or about $4.3 million above the amount proposed  in the seon. This entry level adjustment ensures   a division provides the minimum 2% compensation  increase required to qualify for state funding.   Further, this option represents an opportunity  to make progress towards aligning the unified   pay scale to a

052consistent 1.5% difference between  steps while continuing to support recruitment and   retention across our workforce. Next, we will  share information regarding the rates for our   part-time employees who are essential to the daily  operation of our division. Part-time employees   provide essential staffing flexibility to support  short-term and long-term vacancies as well as   special project needs. The division employs  approximately 5,000 part-time workers across   roles such as sub substitute teachers, bus drivers  and assistants, custodians, and other operational   support positions. To date, approximately 586 of  our retirees support the division in a part-time   capacity. Except for adjustments made to meet  minimum wage requirements or identified needs,   these part-time rates have remained unchanged for  the past four years and continue to align with   entry- level rates established in the 2021 2022  school year. In today's competitive labor market,   it is important that

053our compensation  programs reflect current conditions so   we can continue attracting and retaining reli  reliable individuals to fill these essential   roles. The estimated cost to increase part-time  rates by 10% is approximately three 33 million. As we consider the need to adjust part-time rates,  substitute teacher compensation provides a strong   example of why this is important. Substitute  teachers play a critical role in maintaining   instructional continuity by providing cons  consistent learning experiences for students   during teacher absences. This chart reflects  the division's current standing. We're shown   in green within our local market. for licensed  and non-licensed substitutes. We were we are   positioned above Chesapeake. However, both  Norfick and Portsmouth offer higher daily   rates. Per regulation 4-90.1, long-term  substitute teachers are employees who fill   a position for more than 20 consecutive days  and hold or are eligible for Virginia teaching   license.

054As the chart illustrates, Norfick  currently leaves in this category as well.   The last time substitute teachers rates  were increased was October of 2022. As part of the strategic framework, goal three,  value and invest in staff. Educational allowances   for advanced degrees are an important component  of the school division's overall compensation   strategy. They recognize advanced credentials  that strengthen instructional practice,   build leadership capacity, and  benefit our students and the division.   These allowances also support recruitment  and retention because educators often compare   compensation structures when deciding where to  work and where to remain. Approximately 90.5% of   the 3,300 employees receiving these allowances  are teachers, reflecting the strong emphasis   on advanced credentials within our teaching  workforce. Administrators and professional staff,   many who were once teachers, also benefit from  these allowances, recognizing the advanced   expertise required to support instruction  operations and leadership

055across the division. to provide some background on the educational  allowances. In the 2021 2022 school year,   the division made a strategic commitment  to increase our educational allowances   for advanced degrees and move them toward local  market competitiveness. This effort was designed   as a multi-year investment in our workforce,  not a one-time adjustment. At that time,   an investment of approximately $5.9 million  was needed to increase our allowances. The   school board sustained that commitment over three  consecutive years through 2023 2024 school year,   resulting in the current amounts reflected  on this table. As the comparison shows,   two neighboring school divisions currently  offer higher educational allowances.   Moving the values to the target amount shown here  will complete the multi-year plan and position us   more competitively in this area as well as  equalize the value of the allowance for the   same degree

056in alignment with other divisions.  The approximate cost to finalize this effort   as shown on the slide is $1.8 million  and that is inclusive of benefit cost. This leads us to our employee professional  development reimbursement program which is   our tuition reimbursement program. This slide  this slide reflects a historical perspective   of the tuition reimbursement funds available  to employees annually. In 2011 2012 the annual   reimbursement was $1,000. In the years that  followed, the amount decreased to a low of   $625 before gradually returning to 1,000 in the  2022 2023 school year where it remains today.   This historical perspective is important because  for over a decade, tuition reimbursement has not   kept pace with the rising cost of higher  education. The average cost locally for   a three credit graduate course is approximately  $1,890 or about $630 per credit hour. One local  

057school division offers the prevailing rate of  tuition for three credits at North State or   Old Dominion University with other divisions  providing between $2,250 to $5,500 annually.   Currently, 237 employees have taken advantage  of this opportunity and as of this month,   all funds have been exhausted. As we continue to  emphasize professional growth under goal three,   value and invest in staff, tuition  reimbursement remains an important   tool for supporting employee development and  maintaining a high high quality workforce.   The cost to increase our tuition reimbursement  to $2,000 per person annually is $214,000. Finally, additional duty supplements  recognize the critical leadership and   contributions of employees who take on  responsibilities beyond their primary   roles. Grade levels and department chairs  serve as instructional leaders within our   schools. They support curriculum implementation,  mentor colleagues, facilitate collaboration,   and help ensure consistency and alignment  across classrooms.

058Non-athletic supplements   provide students with opportunities to  explore interest, develop leadership skills,   and build and build meaningful connections  outside the traditional academic setting,   thus enhancing student engagement,  belonging, and overall school experience.   The cost to increase additional duty supplements  by 10% is approximately 300 300 300,375. This concludes our presentation this evening. To  assist with reviewing the information presented,   this slide provides a summary of the items  discussed along with the estimated costs,   including the cost difference  for the unified pay scale option,   part-time rates, educational allowances,  tuition reimbursement, and additional duty   supplements. This overview is intended to  help the school board quickly review the   potential investments across these areas as  you consider future funding opportunities.   We appreciate the school board's time and  consideration this evening and we are happy   to answer any questions you may have and follow up 

059on any items we that may require further review. Okay, Miss Melnik, so you mentioned that we have 586 retirees who  are now part-time employees for Virginia Beach   City Public Schools. Uh Dr. Robertson and  I visited school f four schools on um last   Friday and I met at least one. There may have  been more but um how many retirees do we have   that come back in full-time positions? Do you  know? No, I'm not aware of that. But I mean I   think a part-time that's a pretty good gig, right?  like you retire, you don't know quite what if you   don't know what to do and you want to give back  part-time, but um you don't know the full-time.   It varies from year to year, Mrs. Melnik, because  part-time uh retirees would have to qualify under   critical shortage

060um positions in order to  hold a full-time position, which the state has   um BRS has those opportunities. So that varies  from year to year because at the end of the year   uh retirees who come back in a full-time capacity  must be separated um while correct for how long   each year annually except for the SSO program. So  it depends on the category but of course BRS has   worked um very diligently to provide opportunities  to retirees. Okay. Um, in my tenure, I've   seen retirees who unretire to come back and work  full-time. Retirees can work um 80% of a full-time   position and not be critical shortage. So, there  are lots of ways that retirees can come back and   give back and they do. Okay. Yeah, they do. Um, my  other question in looking at this, some of these,  

061I might be wrong, but some of these topics  seem our headlines here seem achievable when   you look at the total dollar amount. I'm getting  some eye raises, but like employee professional   development reimbursement and additional duty  supplements. We've talked about all of that,   but that's an approximate cost increase of  just a little over half a million dollars.   And so I often wonder if some of those things  are achievable. No, no, maybe not. Well, I mean,   so they are lowhanging fruit for sure, but uh any  of those decisions will require a corresponding   reduction of that amount. I know. Again, trying  to stay with that 98% budgeting. But see,   this question is important because when you talk  about our budget as a whole and you hear it's $1.1   billion, we get questions all the time that say in 

062$1.1 billion, how can you not find half a million   dollars? How can how can you not? Right? Don't  we all the time we get those questions, right?   There's a hundred of those lowhanging fruits,  right? And so, but it is a question we get because   it is hard to imagine that it costs that much to  run a division. I know we're very large. Um, but   these are always important conversations honestly  to repeat because it is very hard to process. that much money. It really is. So, thank you for  this. This was really important. Thank you, Miss   Rogers. Um, I just had a quick question on slide  eight. What is the difference between a master's   instructional and a master's professional? This  is the class of employee. The instructional course   are teachers and the master's professional is  for

063our professional level employees. So what   does that mean professional? Like it could be  a school nurse. It could be um a HRS person.   Gotcha. Those type of a position. Okay. And  and I'm asking because I don't like that like   our doctorate instructional is less than our  doctorate administrative and that our master's   instructional is more than our like all of these  people have earned their degrees. And so I think   it's really important that we recognize that your  degree whether it's a master's in education or   masters in in nursing they still should get the  same stipen because they've earned that. So it   does I think that's important that we you know let  our employees know that no matter where they're   sitting in our division that we are recognizing  their work and that we are giving them the

064same   recognition across the board. Absolutely. And the  target was to do just that Mrs. Rogers. So you can   see that those uh values are the same. And that's  why we wanted to give you a menu, if you will,   of options for consideration just in case there  were um extra um there was extra funding. But yes,   to equalize that and make them the same,  that was the target of the school division.   All right. And I I appreciate that. Thank you  so much, Dr. Green. Thank you. Um my question   also is related Miss Woods to the educational  allowances for uh ED specialists. How is that   considered advanced certificate or because that's  the bridge between a mast's and a doctorate. Okay.   So that's why I was wondering correct. Okay.  and no consideration for just letting it be   a

065standalone area or or level because it is a  degree. It it is a ed specialist degree. Yeah.   Right. We have not explored that. Okay. Okay.  was just saying because there is a difference   between 30 hours beyond a master's versus  having the ed specialists. Okay. Thank you.   We can take a look at that. Could add it to the  menu, Miss Falton. Thank you, Chair Brown. Uh I   just like to say uh when you talk about the  retirees when I visit CEKC elementary I ran   into three retirees that were working there and  they were working. One was a substitute teacher,   one was a coach and one was a mentor and they were  doing their thing really great and they said they   love being there and they look to spend more years  retirees. My question to you is

066I'm looking at the   um uh professional redevelopment development  reimbursement. How are those funds uh reimbured?   Is it what criteria logistic that you use? Is it  first come first serve or you do increments? So   how is that done? How do they receive the funding?  It is a first come first serve basis and you have   to notify us in advance of taking the course. So  yes, it is first serve. Wow. I didn't put that in   the script. Yes. And and and what are what is the  um what is the return rate? I know when you start   getting your degree, you you know it's it's more  than one semester sometimes you have to come back.   So do you look at those or do you just reimburse  all annually? Okay. Right. Okay. Great. Thank you,   Miss Dwer. Thank you.

067So I have a question. Um  are so are we short on tutors in our division? Uh, we are not. Okay. Because I thought  I heard that. And um I guess that would   be a good position for some of our retirees,  correct? Awesome. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Cummings. Yep. Thank you. Um, thank you for sharing.  uh retention and the well-being of our staff   is definitely something that's top of mind and  important to me. And so I'm very appreciative to   see, you know, work being done thinking through  how we can enhance the opportunities that we   have. And so I guess some of the questions that  I have, I'm looking at the um side eight on the   educational allowances and advanced degrees. I'm  kind of curious like looking at you know mast's   professional masters instructional doctorate  doctorate. Um,

068when I think about professional   development and growth, excuse me, you know, how  many I do X program, how many career opportunities   internally are there for me for some of these  degrees? Like how does how do I grow? You know,   if I'm looking to grow professionally here in  Virginia Beach City Public Schools, I obtain   a master's in instructional or a doctorate  instructional. how many positions, you know,   up the up the ladder are there for those? And  I don't know if you have an exact number or if   things are mapped, you know, I'm asking kind  of high level for future followup. I think   that's something I'm thinking about because, you  know, I see a just looking at approximate cost,   you know, it seems like there's a larger demand  for the master's degree programs. Um, you know,   and

069when I think about uh you know growth for  you know our for folks you know is could this   be a stronger ret I don't know what the how many  people apply how many you mentioned that the funds   have been exhausted so if there's more folks but  I wonder if like if expanding those buckets even   more at a higher number that would actually  you know retain more folks um because I I   think back to your presentation the information  that we received last year and I pulled it up   earlier that talked about the staff in the one to  fiveyear bucket being our highest churn rate. Um,   you know, that's a bucket of folks that I'm very  interested in. How do we retain this population?   Um, and so I, you know, when I'm thinking looking  through this, and

070I know that since we're kind   of in pie in the sky mode with money, I feel  like that's a a bucket of something that I'd   be thinking about too is like how what are  retention based programs that we have um,   specifically targets towards those new folks  because I mean, I know we also want to retain   everyone um, at at our company, but with I think  65% of the folks in 2024 coming from 1 to 5 years,   That's something that's top of mind for me.  I think also I wanted to ask as well. So if   we have a non-licensed teacher who's in the  midst of and I sometimes I know I asked this   before. I'm just trying to clearly understand  and they're getting their transitions license   and or they're getting a different license. Are  how how

071do we have a benefits program for that?   How is that paid for? Do they pay out of pocket?  If we have someone who's like or am I totally   off in the way I'm asking question? Provisional.  Provisional. Sorry, not transitional. Thank you. But I would What' you say one more time for  me, Mr. Cumins? Yeah. So, I'm trying to think   if someone's has like a provisional license and  they're looking to get and I could be wrong in the   credentiing structure. That's okay. Um, if someone  has a provisional license and they're looking to   get licensed, do we have, you know, professional  development dollars or allowances for those folks   to get the right certification and where does  that fall in? Absolutely. So, this um the tuition   reimbursement would be an advantage that employees  could take it where an

072opportunity employees could   take um advantage of professional growth and  innovation. Also um they have some programs   to uh HR we have written grants to support  provisionally licensed teachers. BDOE will put out   uh grants to divisions specific to provisionally  licensed teachers. So there are lots of programs   and opportunities that we can take advantage of  at the state level and we do. Okay. Yeah. Yeah,   I was just thinking about that cuz I met a great  teacher at Brandon Middle who was provisionally   licensed. I was so excited to see that got  licensed and I was just kind of curious what the   funding structure on our side looked like during  that transition. And some of our partnerships   have expanded. Um so we do have partnerships with  universities. However, the employee still has to   pay. Um, and so again, that

073tuition reimbursement  um opportunity comes in play and that's why we,   you know, one of the reasons we're presenting  the information tonight because there are various   pathways that are being created to support um  recruitment and retention. And so this is a   part of the discussion with those various pathways  coming a on board. Cool. And so I think my final   finalish question is just then you know if we have  like new emerging fields in technology or business   or something like that and we know you know it's  teacher has to go through and get a certificate   like a nonmasters or they have to go through and  get like x amount of hours. I assume that's part   of the professional development area or like if  there you know we're talking about AI a lot like   if someone's getting AI

074to teach AI courses or AI  certificate to teach AI courses where where does   like that fall? So it it it depends. Okay. Um so  we have a partnership with local universities to   get teachers certified to teach dual enrollment  classes and uh it's reduced tuition for them to   take those courses uh that then would qualify  them to do dual enrollment. There are other um   programs that someone could take advantage of as  an employee that's not going to cost them anything   to to get a certificate to get a certificate by  taking a certification assessment. then they're   paying for the certification assessment. Um,  we we could do a whole another presentation   on the number of partnerships and and tuition  re reductions we have with all of our local   universities including Radford and University  of Virginia, which you're not

075going to get to by   driving, right? Yeah. But all the local ones 25%  discount. uh with Virginia Wesleyan uh University   um thanks to the work Miss Woodhouse did a couple  years ago, they're taking our VTF kids and at   Virginia Wesland and they are going to school for  free. Yeah. And the the the tradeoff is they have   to teach in the 757 when they're done for I think  three years. And there was discussion at the time,   well, why don't we make them teach in Virginia  Beach? And I was like, well, that would be   selfish, cuz what about if they get married and  they live in Suffach, you know, so to speak. So,   I said, as long as we we we we want our kids  to go into profession if they choose to work   in a different

076city, then so be it. Yeah. So,  there are a lot of programs because we don't want   um the ability to pay to prevent someone from  going. And we we do think that it's time to take   a look at the the professional reimbursement. It  is to Miss Melany's point, it's lowhanging fruit.   Um and and with board direction, we can we could  make that happen pretty much regardless, but it   this is something again we want to bring forward  to you. Yeah, I appreciate you bringing this   forward and having helping us think through like  as funds become more available, you know, what's   a top- of- mind initiative to help with retention  um of our staff and also just I think their own   professional growth and well-being. And so I think  like and I know we have benefits at

077the beach and   I know that's on our website, but I just think  about simplicity to the user always. You know,   if I'm an employee here, how do I grow my career?  And simply what are what are my opportunities?   And so, you know, it could very well be simply out  there on the information and I'm just I don't know   about it as a board member, but I think that's  something that's also always top of mind to me   is just, you know, as an employee who's looking,  how do I grow? How do I find the answers? What   resources are to me? And so, I applaud this effort  and growth. So, thank you so much for sharing,   Miss Falton. Thank you, Chip Brown. Uh, I  am really excited about our VTF program. Uh,   I always talk about it

078and I talk with the  students about it as well. Uh Dr. Robertson,   I would like to see that people work because  of the uh partnerships that we have with the I   would like to see that because when I'm having  conversation with students and they're in the   uh 10th grade Oh, I don't know yet. I would  like to have that conversation with them. I   remember ODU had the switch program. Yeah, it  was great. We were there. Great. And I remember   ODU would say if they educated and I think  this was just for Northfor. If they educated   a student to be a teacher, they went out. If  they did not uh come up to professional level,   the student could come back to ODU and get that  professional development all over again. Uh I   don't know if they

079did it for us. I know that  they were doing it for Norol as well. So that   might be something that they're just still doing  for Norol. And I would like to see all of the   universities that we have that are partnering have  partnership we have partnership with to get these   new students up and going. Thank you. I want to  see homegrown. I do. We can do that. We can show   you homegrown. Thank you. Okay. I think my first  question is for Dr. Robertson. Um Dr. Robertson,   when this says increase employee professional  development reimbursement value, is that's a same   um professional development that we discussed  last year and did a reduction on in the budget or is this something different than that?  Something different. Okay. I' I'd like some   clarification and it doesn't need to be

080now,  but what the differences are between these two   because I'm a little confused. Yeah. So, um last  year the reductions we made in the budget were to   staff members professional development going to  conferences. Okay. Attending other events. This   professional development is about their ability to  to earn additional certifications, take additional   classes. So, it's completely separate. Okay. And  so, that those funds have not been restored. Okay.   I I appreciate that clarification and you know I  as we contemplate this and I assume that this has   to do with if more money comes from the state as  well. Um I would be interested to see this fiscal   year what was allocated and utilized to date. Um  I want to make sure that if we're putting it there   that it's going to be beneficial. So, um, that  would be

081something that I would be interested   in. Um, and I'm going to try to broach this topic  carefully with the unified pay scale. Um, and I I   want to make sure that I'm understanding first  when we're talking about the cost difference,   this 2%, is this an additional 2% than  what's in our operating budget? So Crystal, because it says cost difference $4.3 million. So  it's just over and above what we've already got   budgeted in the in there. Okay. And and the reason  that I'm asking and the reason I said I'm going to   try to broach it carefully is for the last few  years we have made sure that the unified scale   we've been working towards getting rid of the  compression and we've done a pretty good job for   U15 and above. But the other unified positions  below

082which make le considerably less money   uh they always seem to get shoved off. And so I  I would be very interested to know if we didn't   do an additional increase what adjust is to just  make it all one and a half between you you all   the way all the unified pay scale levels. That's  what I would be interested in knowing because I I   really think that we've failed to prioritize that.  And when I look at the positions um that are being   left behind, custodial, food service workers, bus  driver, cafeteria assistants, um and I don't think   that the perception of continuing to put that  off is a very good perception. Um and I think   that when we when we do what we do, we need to try  to do it across the board. And so I

083I just wanted   to point that out and have that conversation.  Yeah. Dark Troman, do you do we have the 1.5%   if we just did 1.5% for unified straight 1.5? We  have one point. Yeah. Five and we have 3%. Okay.   Because I would like to if possible get them  this answer by the weekend. Yes. Absolutely.   We can get that because what I'm hearing is just  a straight 1.5% for the entire unified scale to   see what the range is going to be, right? Because  it says here that the cost is if we increase the   difference between steps one and 14 to 1.25 to  1.25 and I assume those are unified one through   14. That's correct. And what I'm asking is what  it is to do 1.5 without the increase because to   me that is something that I

084think we need to try  to aggressively work on. One of the concerns we   have for that because it was looked at is if we do  nothing to the entry level the lower paid scales   will not get an average of 2% which right now the  state is at making some things required for us to   at least give a 2%. So when that runs through the  scale, it's about I think this is what we deal   with. No entry level rate remains and then doing  the 1.5 for the 1 through 14, it was about $5.9   million difference than what we have. But we're  concerned that the average that would come out if   any additional funding is tied like compensation  from the state is tied to that we have to give   an average of 2%. We would have positions 

085on the scale that would not receive that.   But don't we have a 2% increase in our operating  budget and we're saying that this other 2% is over   and above. Yeah. But that I'm assuming that that's  the way they calculated that. So I I'll follow up   more I guess about what I'm looking for after the  meeting to clarify. I think you understand what   I'm asking. I think we understand what you're  looking for. Yes. Right. So, um, right. Yes.   I just want to make sure that we're making sure  that that's even across the board. And I'm just   curious what the cost of that is. All right. I do  not see any more questions. Thank you. Thank you,   Miss Len. Do we have time for closed? You have  the one grievance and there was just one update   on

086that. So, depending on how quickly you think  you do that grievance, you may have time. Okay.   I don't think that's Yeah. Can we do the grievance  after the meeting? Okay. Um and we'll go ahead and   do the other update. So, we'll read into close  for the other update. I move that the school   board recess into close session in accordance  with exceptions to open meetings law set forth   in code of Virginia 2.2-3711 part A paragraphs 178  as amended to deliberate on the following matters.   One, discussion, consideration or interviews  of prospective candidates for employment,   assignment, appointment, promotion, performance,  demotion, salaries, disciplining or resignation of   specific public officers, appointees or employees  for any public body and evaluation or performance   of departments of schools and public institutions  of higher education where such evaluation will   necessarily involve discussion of the

087performance  of specific individuals. Any teacher shall be   permitted to be present during a closed meeting  in which there is a discussion or consideration   of a disciplinary matter that involves the teacher  and some student and the student involved in the   matter is present provided that the teacher  makes a written request to be present to the   presiding officer of the appropriate board.  Nothing in this subdivision however should   be construed to authorize a closed meeting by a  local governing body or an elected school board   to discuss compensation matters that affect the  members of such body or board collectively. staff   in consultation with legal counsel on briefings by  staff members or consultants pertaining to actual   or probable litigation where such consultation or  briefing and open meeting would adversely affect   the negotiating or litigating posture of the  public body. For

088the purposes of this subdivision,   probable litigation means litigation that has  been specifically threatened or on which the   public body or its legal council has a reasonable  basis to believe will be commenced by or against a   known party. Nothing in this subdivision should  be construed to permit the closure of a meeting   merely because an attorney representing the  public body is in attendance or is consulted on   a matter. Eight. Consultation with legal counsel  employed or retained by a public body regarding   specific legal matters requiring the provision of  illegal advice by such counsel. Nothing in this   subdivision shall be construed to prevent the  closure of a meeting merely because an attorney   representing the public bodies in attendance  or is consulted on a matter namely to discuss a   employee grievance b status of pending litigation  or administrative cases. C

089consultation with legal   council regarding probable litigation and pending  litigation matters. Moved by Vice Chair Williams,   seconded by Dr. Green. Any discussion? Seeing  none, I call for the vote to go into close   session. So, Madam Chair, we have 11 eyes. Is  the motion to pass to go into close session?

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