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School Board Meeting - 12/09/25

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YouTube / VBSchools
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2025-12-10
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Virginia Beach city, VA
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26,835 words · about 150 min
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2026-06-08

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001Hey. Good evening. My name is Kathleen Brown, chair  of the Virginia Beach School Board, and I call   this meeting to order at 6:01 p.m. Madame Clerk,  would you please announce the role? Thank you,   Madam Chair. Present in the schoolboard  chamber are Chair Brown, Vice Chair Williams,   Mr. Bowensteel, Mr. Ken, Miss Felton, Dr. Green,  Miss Melnik, and Miss Rogers. And currently online   is Mr. Cummings. And Mr. Cummies, for the record,  can you please tell us why you were zooming in? Yeah, I'm here cuz I'm online cuz I'm  sick. Thank you. And Miss Dwire is also   in the schoolboard chamber. Thank you. Um, please  join me as you are able for a moment of silence   followed by the pledge of allegiance. After the  pledge of allegiance, the national anthem will   be sung by Cook Elementary School fifth

002grade  chorus. Their chorus director is Apollo Simon. We'll do our moment of silent once they enter. Okay, please join me in the moment of silence. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the  United States of America and to the republic   for which it stands. One nation under God,  indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Oh, say can you see by the dawn  early what so proudly we held at   the twilight last stripes and bright stars  Through the barrel fly for the ramparts we   watch for some gallantly stream and the  rockets red. The bombs bursting in air   came through the night that our flag was  still there. Oh, save us as our singful way. Excellent. Oh, that was beautiful. Thank you, Cook. All  right, now is our favorite time, a chance to   recognize some of our

003outstanding students  tonight. Our first recognition this evening   is for the Mr. Can you just Can you just wait just  one second while we Yeah. Oh, if you insist. Thank   you. We want to make sure everyone can hear  this. Yes, we're transitioning. Thank you. That's all right. We'll rewind the tape and start again. Our first  recognition this evening is for the Virginia High   School League's field hockey state champions.  Please welcome the Falcons of Cox High School. On November 15th, the Falcons captured the  2025 Virginia State Championship title with   a 200 victory over First Colonial, closing out  an extraordinary season in which they outscored   their opponents 120- 17 and finished  with an impressive 19 and4 record. The   team members are as follows. Aba Amuyo, Junior  Captain, and if I pronounced that incorrectly,   please forgive me. Adalie Booth,

004Lee Daves,  Marlo Durr, Anna Gellwick, Isabelle Glenn,   Norah Hines, Cassette Lee, Michaela  Quinn, Lily Shrot, Lauren Templeton,   Isabella Terry, junior captain, Sammy Terry,  sophomore goalkeeper, Campbell Wright,   Pa Paige Wittmann. The team is coached by  Taylor Roundtree, Alex Brewer, David Han, and   this championship marks the 25th state title for  the Coxfield hockey program. Ladies, absolutely. Continuing a legacy of excellence, determination,  and Falcon pride set in motion by Mrs. Emily   Tilly in 1977 as the school's first field hockey  coach. Congratulations teams. We are proud of you. I'm sure. Yeah. Okay, we are now on to the adoption of the agenda.  Um, I do have one slight modification that doesn't   change the meeting. um an achievable dream  academy is here and they have to travel back   to the peninsula and so I am just going to ask  that

005we move C 13C and do that in place of 13A   and then so it would be A is an achievable dream  academy comprehensive evaluation 13B is policy   review committee recommendations and C is compass  to 23 30 key navigational markers. That way they   can get back before that bridge ices over. Um are  there any other modifications to the agenda as   presented? Vice Chair Williams. Um yes. Um chair  and colleagues, I would like to ask um that we   pull policy 529 awards for achievement class  rank honor designations. I've talked to my two   colleagues on PRC as well as staff and because of  the new information that we did not have available   at our PRC meeting, I would like to pull that and  take it back to PRC. Also, one of our PRC members   has requested policy 540

006studentled assemblies  to also be pulled for um further review. So,   I would ask that we take off two and three from  information. Okay. And are there any objections   to that? Okay. Um, so since there's no objections,  we won't vote on it. So I call for the motion um   to approve the agenda as presented and modified.  Motioned by Dr. Green, seconded by Miss Dwire.   Any further discussion? Seeing none, I call for  the vote to adopt the agenda as presented and   modified. And Mr. Cummings, have you vote for the  agenda as presented and modified? Yes. Thank you,   Madam Chair. We have 10 eyes. The motion did pass  for the adoption of the agenda as presented and   modified. Thank you. Um I do want to take a a  quick um liberty here um before we move on. Um

007I   almost forgot, but policy 5-29 directly correlates  to what people are doing um and students are doing   right now as they're applying for colleges. and I  just wanted to read what we're going to be doing   as it relates to policy 529 to make sure that  we're complying with it as adopted. Um there is   some question about code and whether or not we're  following code or not um to the tea, but the fact   remains that it is the duty of the administration  to adhere to the language found in schoolboard   policy. If there was confusion about the intent of  the change to policy, administration should have   brought this to the PRC. Moving forward and until  the school board wishes to revisit this issue,   we will be implementing policy 529 as written and  for the community that's related

008to class rank.   This means that one class rank will be removed  from all transcripts and two class rank will   be calculated upon request and provided  to the requester but it cannot be added   to the transcript. Um and so if the PRC has any  concerns with that, that will be discussed at a   future PRC meeting. And so I just wanted  to make sure that our our students again   um have the information that they need  here as they move forward through this   application process. We are now on to the Oh, Dr.  Robertson, do you have any reports tonight? Uh no,   Madam Chair. No. Okay. Thank you. We are now on  to the approval of meeting minutes. There are two   sets of meeting minutes. First are the November  18th, 2025 special schoolboard meeting minutes.   Are there any modifications

009to those minutes as  presented? Seeing none, I call for the motion   to approve the November 18th special schoolboard  meeting minutes as presented. Moved by Miss Dwire,   seconded by Mr. Callen. Any discussion? Seeing  none, I call for the vote to approve the November   18th meeting minutes. And Mr. Cummings, how do  you vote on the November 18th meeting minutes?   Yes. Thank you, Madam Chair. We have 10 eyes. The  motion did pass for the approval of the meeting   minutes from November 18th. Thank you. We are now  on to the November 25th, 2025 regular schoolboard   meeting minutes. Are there any modification to  those meeting minutes as presented? Seeing none,   I call for the motion to pro approve the November  25th meeting minutes. Moved by Miss Dwire,   seconded by Mr. Ken. Any discussion? Seeing none,  I call for the vote

010to approve those November 25th   meeting minutes. And Mr. Cummings, how do you vote  for the November 25th meeting minutes? Yes. Thank   you, Madam Chair. We have 10 eyes. The motion  to pass for the approval of the November 25th   meeting minutes. Thank you. So, we are now on to  the public hearing and public comments portion of   the agenda. The public hearing on the fiscal year  2027 2627 school operating budget fiscal year 2026   27 through 203132 capital improvement program as  well as public comments on matters relevant to   prek through public education in Virginia Beach  and the business of the school board and the   school division from citizens and delegations who  signed up with the schoolboard clerk prior to noon   today. The purpose for the public comment section  is for the school board to offer an orderly form  

011to receive public comments during the schoolboard  meeting. I call upon all speakers and all persons   in the chamber to be civil in discussion and  decorum. Whatever views you wish to express,   the school board wants to hear from you and  ensure that all viewpoints and perspectives are   heard. The best way to do this is for all of us  to strive for civility and respect. Madame clerk,   would you please announce the first speaker?  Thank you, Madam Chair. Before I announce the   first speaker, I want to let you know that speaker  number four, speaker number nine, and our online   speaker all had to cancel this evening. So we will  start with our public hearing and Heather Cyping, Chairwoman Brown, Vice Chair Williams, members of  the school board, and Dr. Robertson. My name is   Heather Cip and I am

012the president of the Virginia  Beach Education Association. I'm here this evening   to speak on the fiscal year 202526 operating  budget. In developing the upcoming budget,   the school board and division leadership need  to prioritize people over programs. The myriad   of phenomenal programs VBCPS offers for students  depend on the personnel. This means ensuring all   areas are properly staffed and the staff are  compensated in a competitive manner with a   focus on retention of our staff and recruitment  of highly qualified candidates. Steps 0 through   14 on the unified scale need to be shifted to a  1.5% step to align with the step increases for 15   plus and the entire instructional scale. And in  general, compensation for support professionals   is in desperate need of attention. Did you know  the majority of EBCPS bus drivers, bus assistants,   and cafeteria assistants are

013not even considered  full-time? Add that into wages that are lower than   other divisions or a comparable position where  somewhere else it's no wonder why these staff   members have to work two to three jobs. And it  also gives some good insight onto why certain   positions are hard to staff and or have high  turnover rates. We cannot control new mandates,   but we can pause new initiatives that come with  a price tag beyond what the division can secure   in grants or other additional funding  awarded. We cannot control inflation,   but we can prioritize raises that offset cost of  living increases and not sucker punching staff   with heavy insurance premium increases. Do what's  right for your staff. Prioritize your people. We'll now move on to our public comments.  Our first speakers will be uh Cody Connor,   Kim Mayo, and then

014Francis St. Clair Granger. Good evening. Somewhere I read of the freedom  of assembly. Somewhere I read of the freedom   of speech. Somewhere I read of the freedom of  the press. Somewhere I read that the greatness   of America is the right to protest for  right. I'm reminded of Dr. Dr. King's   words tonight because somewhere I read um  in the agenda for today's meeting a policy   change that threatens to remove that right  from our students. I know you've taken the   policy back to review committee and you should  leave it there. Um I don't think our children   should be taught that they need permission  and approval to exercise their rights.   The current policy reads, "Along with guaranteeing  citizens the fre the right to freedom of speech,   the first amendment to the Constitution of  the United States also guarantees

015the right to   assemble peacefully. Time should be made available  for orderly and peaceful student assemblies." The proposed changes erase all of that language  without currently a solid plan for replacing it. It replaces what is an affirmation and  an acknowledgement of constitutionally   protected rights with an application process,  approval requirements, content standards.   students will still have the right to assemble  as long as they have your permission and your   approval about what they're going to say.  Honestly, I think you're scared. I think you're   scared that these kids are going to figure out all  that you're trying to take from them and want to   do something about it. And I think you're trying  to make that as hard as possible for them. I know   you're going to end up passing the policy because  you have the numbers. Once again,

016my words will   have fallen on deaf ears. But I will continue to  speak. I'll continue my protest. Because while you   continue to teach our kids to conform and submit,  I will continue to teach my children that they   are worth fighting for. And anyone else that's  watching, that their rights are worth fighting   for, that they don't need permission from anyone  to be themselves or to stand up for themselves.   I will continue to teach them that no matter  how many times we may fail to stop injustice,   we must never fail to stand  up to it, make good decisions. Our next speaker is Kim Mayo, then Francis  St. Clair Granger, and then Milton MacGyver. Good evening. At your September workshop, it was  revealed ODS gets extensive languages not offered   to sixth graders at neighborhood schools. ODS gets  French,

017Spanish, even Latin, five days per week,   50 minutes per day. Neighborhood middle schools  do not offer high school credit language electives   to sixth graders like this. Virginia Beach  Middle School's short change gifted learners.   How are students at IMS, Great Neck, Landsdown,  Bayside, or Brandon, or any other middle school   less deserving or capable of mastering a language?  Teachers and parents believe in our children. High   expectations bring higher results. I'm bilingual  and it's a blessing. I grew up with relatives in   Mass, New Hampshire. I'm of Scottish, Canadian,  and Italian ancestry. I was exposed to French in   Canada at a young age and years later spent a  year in France. My school system gave everyone   opportunity for advancement. Being bilingual is  the reason I got hired by a dotcom company which   paid for my grad school at Boston

018University after  I graduated. Virginia Wesian ODS students are much   better set up for success. It offends me my own  child of the American Revolution and her talented   peers can't take appropriate world languages once  they reach sixth grade in our government schools. ODS is over 12 million each year to run versus  only around 1 million for each high school   academy. Unlike Renaissance Academy, it does  not benefit those who don't attend. Why are we   giving disproportionate tax dollars to one school  instead of paying teachers well or other uses? I   commend Mrs. Brown and Williams for rejecting the  five-year gifted plan. Dr. Green and Miss Rogers   have also shown fresh ideas and leadership. Two  current schoolboard members unfortunately rubber   stamped the five-year plan. They stubbornly tried  to protect an old broken model in school admin   you're supposed to

019supervise. Other communities  have successfully disbanded gifted schools. There   is no evidence lower test scores or academic  outcomes were the result. I've seen the power   of our local media exposing education and civic  matters of great interest. They've also uncovered   ongoing controversy on ODS to include lawsuits,  admissions issues, and even the arrest of their   principal. Let's lean on all who can help  us make positive change. Merry Christmas. Our next speaker is Francis St. Clair  Granger, Milton MacGyver, and then Diane Musk. Good evening, Dr. Robertson and his administration  currently allow activity sponsors to do whatever   they want. VBCPS administration state as a matter  of policy that activity sponsors in DBCPS may do   whatever they want with respect to such things as  officer elections and scholarship participation.   That's right, whatever they want. Let me tell  you what that looks

020like to students and parents.   Activity sponsors currently openly campaign  for and against student candidates for activity   leadership offices. Sponsors may use their  position of authority to motivate elections   along lines they themselves personally desire  because they can do whatever they want. Also,   activity sponsors vote in student leadership  elections artificially helping who they desire   to lead their school activity. Sponsors vote  in student elections because they can do   whatever they want. Activity sponsors can even  allow students themselves to announce cuts to   competitive teams while spreading gossip about the  children being cut. Imagine adults surrendering   supervisory responsibilities and gossiping among  teenagers. But of course, Dr. Robertson and BBCPS   allow sponsors to do whatever they want. Dr.  Robertson's administration and BBCPS staff have   taken the whatever they want policy even to the  awarding of rights to compete for thousands of  

021dollars in scholarships to whomever activity  sponsors favor. Sponsors use no rubric, no   documented procedure, no application completion,  no competitive records, no anything to choose   who may compete for scholarship money. Sponsors  do this because they can do whatever they want.   It really must be nice to do whatever you want  and award thousands of dollars in scholarship on   a whim. I plead with this school board to codify  and create actual policy to eradicate the whatever   they want procedures used by VBCPS activity  sponsors. Students should lead their own elections   without outside interference. Students should  vote for Google form ballots or some other digital   format that creates a digital footprint verifiable  by any party that wishes to see actual results.   Additionally, where scholarship money exists, a  formal documented procedural application should   exist that plainly exhibits for all to see 

022rankings and performance records. It will keep   everything above board professional and absent  of bias in any sort. Heck, even a ball player   has a batting average that supports his place in  a lineup. Why wouldn't activity sponsors want the   same thing? Why wouldn't VBCPS administration  unless of course just like the employee healthc   care switcheroo VBCPS administration just  prefers doing whatever they want? Thank   you. Merry Christmas. Our next speaker is Milton  MacGyver. Then Diane Muscoach, then Heather Cip. Milton MacGyver, Diane Musk, then Heather Cypsa Lucen. Good evening. The National School Chaplain  Association plays a quiet but powerful and   positive role in public schools. It equips  schools with trained chaplain to foster   student well-being, resilience, and supportive  school culture. And at its core, the National   School Chapency Association offers a framework  for emotional, spiritual, and moral support   to

023students, regardless of their background or  beliefs. In increasingly complex times, many young   people come to school carrying burdens beyond  homework. The association's presence offers a safe   place where students can find someone to listen,  to care, and to guide without judgment. That   kind of support can make the difference between a  student feeling lost or feeling seen. Importantly,   the services are inclusive. Chaplain are not  there to preach. They are there to support.   They honor diversity and respect the beliefs of  every student. That ensures the support remains   accessible, respectful, and appropriate for a  pluralistic school community. Beyond one-on-one   care, the National School Chapency Association  helps foster a sense of belonging and community   through mentoring, peerroup programs, or general  pastoral care. Chaplain can help build trust and   cohesion among students. These relationships  can enhance the school's environment, helping   to

024reduce bullying, improve student well-being,  foster kindness, and encourage mutual respect.   Chapency also provides a resource for crisis times  when a student uh is dealing with trauma, loss,   or serious emotional stress. Having a trained,  approachable chaplain can be a critical safety net   for students who might otherwise feel they have  nowhere to turn. Whether it's grief counseling,   family issues, or mental health outreach, chaplain  add an additional layer of support beyond teachers   and counselors. If something raises a flag,  certified chaplain know the proper procedure to   advise authorities. Schools partnering with the  National School Chaplain's Association benefit   not just the students but the broader school  community. The it benefits the staff, families,   and ultimately the culture of the school itself.  When students feel supported, safe and respected,   they are more likely to engage, learn, and grow.  When when staff

025see students thriving, the school   climate improves, morale rises, and education in  its fullest sense becomes possible. In conclusion,   the National School Chapency Association brings  to public schools more than just spiritual care.   It brings compassion, respect, and community.  For many students, the chaplain might be the   difference between feeling alone and feeling cared  for. Every child is our shared responsibility. So,   let's work together and change the hearts  of people starting at a young age such   as kindergarten. You can find more information  about the association at national school chaplain   association.org. Have a merry Christmas.  Our next speaker is Heather Cypsa Lucen. Good evening, Chairwoman Brown, Vice  Chair Williams, members of school board,   and Dr. Robertson. My name is still  Heather Cyp, and I am president of the   Virginia Beach Education Association. I'm  here this evening to speak on

026policy 5-29,   specifically the class rank component. I'm happy  to hear you guys are pulling that back to PRC for   a more indepth look at exactly what that means  for our students. This has been a topic brought   to the school board multiple times in the past  and the general leanings of past boards was to   eliminate class rank as it adversely affects so  many students in so many ways. Not all students   have access to academy programs with weighted  credit or they attend a school that does not   have enough interest to offer the same number of  dual enrollment or advanced placement classes as   another. are taking it back to middle school where  students in some schools have more access based on   overall interest and availability to high school  credit courses which in turns increases their GPA,   increases their

027chances for a higher class  rank. It also causes students to make tough   choices between an elective course in an area  they are passionate about and a weighted course.   Let's also consider the student who wants  to stretch and take an advanced placement   or dual enrollment course but may not take  the course because if they don't earn an A,   it will adversely affect their class rank. State  code allows for schools and programs to not rank.   I urge the school board to seriously consider  whether or not it wants to continue with class   rank and weigh the benefits of the few with  the adverse effects of many. Thank you. Our next speaker is Melissa Luken. Good evening. For 40 years, student demonstrations  and assemblies have lived under the same policy.   Now you want to split them, not to clarify

028rules,  but to silence speech. Policy 5-40 has protected   students ability to gather, speak, and respond to  real world events. The changes in front of you,   well, they were in front of you till you removed  it from the agenda. They were paired with the   forthcoming policy 5-39 on student demonstrations.  They do one thing and one thing only. They take   away the student voice and replace it with adult  permission. The existing policy plainly allows   spontaneous student assemblies as long  as they are peaceful and not disruptive.   The revised version from Miss Williams eliminates  that entirely. It requires pre-approval for any   studentled assembly. It restricts content  to avoid anything controversial. It gives   administrators broad authority to  deny student expression that doesn't   fit a preferred narrative. All of this language  appears directly in the proposed revisions. But   that's not all.

029The soontobe introduced policy  5-39 goes even further, creating an additional   layer of restrictions designed specifically  to prevent walkouts, demonstrations, or rapid   response to tragedies like school shootings.  Let's not pretend this is about safety or order.   The current policy already addresses that. This is  about silencing students because one board member,   Miss Williams, didn't like that students  that showed courage after a mass shooting.   and you also didn't like who stood with them.  At the November PRC meeting, Miss Williams said   that she doesn't believe there's data indicating  student activism strengthens student learning.   Well, maybe that's because she only considers  learning legitimate when it reflects values she   approves of. Decades of research is clear. Civic  engagement builds critical thinking, leadership,   and even long-term academic success. I know some  of y'all prefer opinions over facts and science,   but the data

030tells the truth. There's plenty I can  email you for for these uh surveys. It is frankly   embarrassing that Miss Williams is an elected  official and doesn't understand the educational   power of student voice or worse understands  it perfectly well and wants to shut it down   because she can't control it. So now based on the  predictable partisan voting pattern of this board,   I fully expect this poly policy to pass when it's  presented again. Um the outcome is not a mystery.   So I want to offer my sincere thanks truly to  the MAGA majority of the board for continuing   to bring these restrictive politically motivated  policies from committee to the full public arena   because every time you do the public gets  to see exactly what you're doing. And while   the censorship six have continued their slow  motion project of

031dismantling public education,   something else has been happening. Something  I don't think some of you fully appreciate.   We've been organizing. And while you've been  busy silencing students, restricting teacher,   and confusing parents, we have been building  coalitions, educating the community,   and preparing for what's next. So, please  continue bringing policies forward like 5-40. And Madam Chair, that was our  last speaker for this evening. Thank you. We are now on to an achievable  dream academy comprehensive evaluation and   we welcome Dr. Allison Bach, Program Evaluation  Specialist, Office of Research and Evaluation.   Thank you. Good evening, Chairwoman Brown, Vice  Chair Williams, members of the school board,   and Dr. Robertson. Today, I will provide an  overview of the key findings and recommendations   for the comprehensive evaluation of an achievable  dream academy. The evaluation report you received   and your agenda materials provides additional 

032details as shown in the timeline on the slide.   The partnership between BBCPS and an achievable  dream incorporated began in 2013. An achievable   dream academy began at SeaTac Elementary  School during 1415 with kindergarten through   2 grades. The remaining elementary grades were  added with one grade each year through 1718.   In 1819, sixth grade was added at Linhaven  Middle as a school within a school model. All   middle school grades were added by 2021. In  fall 21, construction began on a new wing at   Linhaven Middle for the high school students.  During construction, 9th and 10th grades were   added and located at Linhaven Middle School and  learning cottages for core content courses and   students were transported to First Colonial High  School for elective courses. In August 23, the new   wing was opened, allowing high school students to  attend school fully

033at Linhaven Middle. In 2425,   an achievable dream reached full implementation  from kindergarten through 12th grade and had its   first graduating class. The 2425 comprehensive  evaluation focused on the program's operational   components and progress toward implementation  related goals, student characteristics and   enrollment patterns, progress towards student  outcome goals, stakeholder perceptions, and the   additional cost to the division. Information was  obtained from a review of websites and documents,   site visits, discussions with program leadership,  a focus group with an achievable dream seniors,   the VBCPS data warehouse, staffing files,  and surveys. Survey response rates and number   of respondents for each stakeholder group are  shown on the slide. For most stakeholder groups,   these response rates are typical of other division  surveys. Due to low numbers of respondents at the   middle and high school levels due to the size of  the program, instructional staff

034and parent survey   data are provided at the secondary level overall.  To assess the impact of the program, an achievable   dream students were matched with students from  a comparable school based on various demographic   characteristics using a statistical procedure  called propensity score matching. Outcome goal   data for AED students were compared to outcomes  for these match comparison group students at the elementary school level. Student zone for  CATAC elementary are automatically accepted in the   program. Although families within the CATAC zone  have the option to opt out of the program. Overall   94 student zoned for CATAC attended another  elementary school in 2425 but 117 out ofzone   students attended CATAC. In addition, students  in kindergarten through grade 9 throughout the   division could apply for the program, although  only students in specific attendant zones were   eligible to receive transportation. In 2425,  students

035living in 19 elementary school zones   in nine middle school zones. Four, I'm sorry,  four middle school zones were eligible to receive   bus transportation to AAD. The majority of AAD  students enrolled in 2425 lived in a zone that   was eligible for transportation. In March Inch  2025, the school board approved an expansion to   additional school zones for the 2526 school  year. Data provided by an achievable dream   regarding numbers of student applications showed  108 students applied for 2425 program enrollment   and approximately 69% of all applicants were  accepted into the program across levels. There   was a notable increase in the total number of  applications for the 2526 school year. 59 of these   were received after the transportation expansion,  most of which were at the elementary level.   Overall, approximately 58% of all applicants were  accepted into the program across levels

036for the   2526 school year with higher acceptance rates  at the secondary levels, 73% for middle school,   and 80% for high school. To ensure families  understood program expectations, all in achievable   dream students and parents received a handbook  and signed an education contract with expectations   related to attendance, behavior, academics, and  dress code. When surveyed, 93% of parents agreed   the contract helped them understand expectations,  and 89% of students agreed expectations were   clear. An achievable dream also provides students  and families various supports as needed, such as   emergency funding for utilities and holiday  food baskets. During 2425, family engagement   opportunities were also offered at all levels,  such as fall festivals, math and literacy nights,   and college and career readiness events. As shown  on the slide, an achievable dream established   two goals related to family engagement and  involvement. When surveyed, 92%

037of the 46 parents   who responded to the survey agreed an achievable  dream provided extra resources when needed. In   addition, at least 86% of parents indicated they  were aware of the events provided by an achievable   dream to support their child's education, agreed  they were involved in their child's academic or   extracurricular activities, and were satisfied  with the opportunities available for involvement.   In addition to the general curricula curriculum  an achievable dream used the social academic   and mindset education or same curriculum which  provided social rotation classes at the middle   I'm sorry at the elementary and middle school  levels on etiquette ethics or conflict resolution   mindfulness and meditation and speaking green  which teaches students about communication.   Another aspect of the same curriculum is  a morning program in which students recite   the banners which are positive affirmations that  restate the the

038school beliefs and expectations.   High school students were offered dedicated time  for reflective writing based on social emotional   prompts. As shown on the slide, an achievable  dream established two goals related to the   implementation of the same curriculum. When  staff were surveyed about these goal areas,   from 67 to 78% of instructional staff agreed the  delivery and implementation of the same curriculum   was streamlined through the program. While there  was lower agreement regarding the curriculum being   incorporated in the core content instruction,  especially at the elementary school level with 22%   agreement. Students and staff were surveyed about  the impact of these social rotations on students,   such as helping students be polite, resolving  conflicts, learning communication skills, and   helping with confidence. Overall, as shown by the  first four sets of bars, at least 68% of students   agreed the social rotation classes

039helped them  build skills. A lower percentage of elementary   school students agreed the morning program to  help them be confident. From a staff perspective,   lower percentages of instructional staff agreed  the social rotations impacted students in these   areas with agreement ranging from 46 to 72%  with higher agreement at the elementary level.   In addition, 79% of high school students and  78% of high school staff agreed the social   emotional time with writing prompts helped  build students social and emotional skills. In achievable dreams, students have  several additional opportunities,   including an extended school day  for all grades except kindergarten,   a four-week summer inter session for kindergarten  through rising 10th graders, and Saturday school   for any students who need extra academic support.  Approximate student participation percentages were   calculated for summer 2025. Approximately 68% of  elementary, 91% of middle, and 69% of high

040school   students participated. Participation percentages  for Saturday sessions range ranged from 52%   at middle to 32% at elementary and 31% at high  school. When surveyed about these opportunities,   depending on level, between 68 and 83% of  students agreed these opportunities provided   them with additional learning preparation  or support with relatively higher agreement   for elementary students. At least 83% of  instructional staff agreed with similar items.   An achievable dream also provided numerous  field trips with 76 at elementary school,   49 at high school, and 15 at middle school. There  are also daily morning greetings and handshakes   from staff members. There are additional  opportunities for clubs, particularly at the   elementary school level, and a dream merit program  to incentivize positive behavior. Community   partners are also involved in the AED program  such as through involvement in clubs, mentorships,   and providing lessons related to

041career readiness.  Lastly, mentorship opportunities are offered at   all levels. Of the students who indicated they  worked with a mentor, 97% agreed it was very or   somewhat helpful. When surveyed about these other  opportunities, relatively high percentages of   students and staff agreed field trips and clubs  were beneficial. Lower percentages of staff,   excuse me, lower percentages of students agreed  the morning program helped them start their day   in a positive way. And both students and staff had  lower agreement regarding the dream merit program   motivating students to make good choices with 33%  of elementary school instructional staff agreeing. Similar to other high school students,  divisionwide, high school AAD students could   enroll in courses at ATC or TCE. Students could  also take ROC courses through Cox High School.   Beyond these course opportunities, there were  some concerns expressed by students and staff.  

042Related to AED high school students having more  limited access to a broad range of courses. On the   student survey, 76% of high school students  agreed they were provided rigorous learning   opportunities and 77% agreed they had access  to courses needed to support their plans after   high school. The these agreement percentages  were lower than at the division level. The   courses completed by AAD high school students in  2425 were compared to a demographically similar   matched group at other high schools. AED high  school students completed fewer unique courses   overall. AED high school students could take  online courses through egeneuity or virtual   Virginia to expand their access, which allowed  them to take 14 additional courses that were   offered only online. AAD students also completed  fewer AP and dual enrollment courses overall. Beginning in middle school, students are offered  a program

043focused on college and career readiness   called What It Takes. This program involves guest  speakers who lead sessions introducing future   career pathways and provide workforce readiness  workshops such as on LinkedIn. When surveyed,   75% of secondary AAD students agreed the what it  takes program was preparing them for the workforce   by teaching important professional skills. One  component of this program is the job shadow day   offered to all students during their junior year.  All juniors and ste seniors agreed that the job   shadow day helped them gain a better understanding  of workplace opportunities. Post-secondary support   provided by an achievable dream includes guidance  with scholarship and financial aid applications as   well as comm community a community class sponsor  for graduating seniors which provided students   a base scholarship of $3,000. An achievable  dream also works with various partners to fill   any funding

044gaps for graduating students. When  surveyed, at least 84% of high school students   agreed their experience prepared them for what  they plan to do after high school. Their school   provided them with experiences relevant  to their goals, and they had a plan and   knew what they were going to do after graduation.  These agreement percentages were higher than high   school students throughout the division. The next  operational component of the program is focused   on instructional staff. AD instructional staff  selection occurs through joint interviews with the   principal and an achievable dream representative.  All AAD staff sign a three-year contract that   outlines the additional responsibilities  required. AAD staff who work the extended   day receive an annual stipen paid directly by  an achievable dream. At the secondary level,   AAD instructional staff are formally designated  in VBCPS HR staffing records as Linhaven Middle  

045School staff rather than identified as  working with an achievable dream. This   makes it difficult to identify within the division  which teachers are responsible for implementing   the program and participating in AAD specific  professional learning. As shown on the slide,   an achievable dream established a goal related  to teacher retention. Overall, based on the list   of staff from AED who received a stipend, 71% of  elementary teachers and 81% of secondary teachers   who worked with the program in 2324 remained  with the program into the 2425 school year.   75% of elementary teachers and 63% of secondary  teachers who worked with the program in 2425   remained with the program into the current  2526 school year. Instructional staff were   surveyed about their responsibilities as well  as the communication and collaboration with an   achievable dream and professional learning  offered. Elementary instructional staff   had

046higher agreement levels about  responsibilities, communication,   and collaboration than secondary staff. A  higher percentage of secondary staff agreed   there was sufficient professional development in  the delivery of the program than elementary staff. During 2425, 704 students were enrolled  in AAD at some time during the school year   with 439 students in elementary, 141 students in  middle school, and 124 in high school. Overall,   60% of students were black and 70% of students  were economically disadvantaged. These percentages   were higher than the percentages for  the division's population. Overall,   student enrollment at the beginning of  the last two school years was examined   to determine the extent to which the  program was operating at capacities   identified in the memorandum of agreement with an  achievable dream incorporated. The MOA identified   a minimum and maximum enrollment number by  grade level. As shown in the table,

047the number   of students enrolled in middle school increased  in 2526. However, there was a decrease in the   number of students enrolled in elementary school  and the same number of students in high school.   The graph on the slide shows that based on  enrollment at the beginning of the school year,   the elementary program is operating closer to  the maximum identified capacity followed by   middle school and 50 at 51% last year and 59%  this year. The last two years, high school is   operating at 33% of the maximum capacity. If  capacity percentages were based on the minimum   targeted enrollment numbers in 2526, elementary  school is operating at 78% of the minimum targeted   enrollment. Middle school is operating at 70%  of the minimum targeted enrollment and high   school is operating at 40% of the minimum targeted  enrollment. An achievable dream

048also had a goal   related to student retention. This was examined  in multiple ways. continuation with the program   during the 2425 school year and continuation with  the program across school years. The percentage   of students who remained in AAD throughout  the 2425 school year was examined. Overall,   87% of students enrolled at any point during the  year remained in the program to the end of the   school year, while 6% withdrew during the year  and reenrolled elsewhere. Another 6% left the   school division entirely and 1% enrolled in  a specialized program. In comparison to the   students who remained in the AED program to the  end of the year, higher percentages of students   who withdrew and reenrolled in another school were  special education students and students who were   in their first year of the program. Continuation  with the program from one

049school year to another   was also assessed. Overall, 83% of students  enrolled at the end of 23 24 remained with   AAD into the beginning of 2425. However, retention  was lower at transition points with 67% of fifth   graders continuing into sixth grade in 2425 and  78% of eighth graders continuing into 9th grade.   Long-term continuation was also assessed by the  percentage of students who continued from the   first implementation year in 1415 to 2425. As  a reminder, the first cohort of students were   kindergarten through 2 graders in 1415 and were  10th through 12th graders in 2425. Only students   enrolled at least half the year were included  in these analyses. Overall 16% of the original   cohort remained in the AAD program in 2425.  43% of the original students were enrolled   in another VBCPS school in 2425 and the remaining  students

050were no longer enrolled in BBCPS in 2425. As shown on the slide, an achievable dream  established five goals related to student   outcomes, which were evaluated through comparisons  between AAD students in a matched comparison group   to assess the impact of the program. To  determine the matched comparison group,   several criteria were used. Students in the  matched comparison group were never enrolled   in AAD, were enrolled throughout the 24-25  school year at a school comparable to AAD,   were in the same grade level, and had similar  demographic characteristics, as well as not   enrolled in another academy. The total number of  students included in the outcome analyses overall   are provided on the slide. To be included, all  students must have been enrolled throughout the   24-25 school year, although students may not  have had data available for every measure. The first and

051second student outcome goals  focused on students academic performance. The   first outcome goal focused on performance on SOS  in core content areas and the second outcome goal   focused on students literacy. Performance on the  SOS was measured using percent passing and average   scaled scores. It's important to note that only  tests taken by at least 10 students in both groups   were included in these analyses. Literacy  outcomes were measured through performance   on two assessments depending on grade level.  Performance on the vowels was measured using   students spring risk level average spring scores  and improvement on their risk band from fall to   the spring. Performance on the reading map was  measured using students spring achievement average   spring scores and percentage of students who met  projected growth in spring. This table provides   a highle summary by level of the percentage  of these

052academic measures where AAD students   outperformed their match comparison group with  any degree of difference. The percentages with   the asterisks note measures with statistically  significant differences favoring the AAD students.   The evaluation report provides additional  details by content area and grade level.   Overall, approximately half of the measures showed  evidence of AAD students outperforming the match   comparison group on SOS and literacy measures  based on any degree of difference. Although   there were differences by level, higher  percentages of measures at the elementary   school level showed AAD students outperform  their match comparison group primarily for   elementary student growth in literacy within the  school year, elementary student math achievement,   and fifth grade students. There were lower  percentages at the secondary level, although   the cohort of eighth grade students performed well  across content areas relative to the comparison   group. One focus of the

053literacy goal for AAD was  growth for special education students. Overall,   there was evidence of AAD special education  students showing more improvement in grades   K through two, but not for grades three  through five and middle school students. When students and staff were surveyed  about academic support, at least 81% of   students agreed that instruction met  their academic needs. In addition,   83% of staff agreed that the instruction and  services offered met students academic needs.   Lower percentages of instructional staff agreed  AED provided students with the level of acade   academic support they needed, particularly  at the elementary level with 56% agreement. The third goal focused on attendance which  was measured by the percentage of students who   consistently attended school and students average  attendance rate as shown on the slide. Overall   AA a students outperformed the match comparison  group on 50%

054of measures although there were no   statistically significant differences. Elementary  AAD students outperformed their match comparison   group on mo both measures while results were  less favorable at the secondary level. When   students were surveyed, overall higher percentages  of elementary and high school students agreed they   looked forward to coming to school to learn while  lower percentages of middle middle school students   agreed. The fourth goal focused on discipline  as measured by the percentage of students with   at least one referral and percentage with  multiple referrals as well as the average   number of referrals in school suspensions and  out of school suspensions. As shown on the slide,   overall AAD students outperformed the match  comparison group on 40% of measures. There were   more favorable outcomes at the secondary than  elementary. A specific focus of the discipline   goal for AED was peer-to-peer conflicts.

055Across  all levels, higher percentages of AED students   had at least one and multiple referrals related to  studentto student aggression compared to the match   groups. AAD students also had higher average  referrals and inschool suspensions but lower   out of school suspensions compared to the match  comparison groups. When students were surveyed,   at least 82% of secondary students agreed they got  along with other students, while 63% of elementary   students agreed. In addition, at least 76% 76% of  students agreed they had positive relationships   with teachers. When instructional staff were  surveyed about student behavior, relatively   low percentages of instructional staff agreed  students got along with other students with low   agreement at elementary school. At least 72% of  staff agreed students had positive relationships   with staff. However, lower percentages  agreed students treated them with respect,   especially at elementary school. Regarding  the instruction

056and services provided by AAD,   44% of elementary staff and 71% of secondary  staff agreed the instruction and services met   students social and emotional needs. In  addition, 39 to 45% of staff across both   levels agreed AAD provided strategies and  consistency to support students behavior. The final student outcome goal focused  on graduation. Graduation outcomes for   the first cohort of seniors showed all 27  AAD seniors graduated on time. In addition,   74% graduated with an advanced diploma, which  was notably higher than the percentage of the   match comparison group who graduated with  an advanced diploma. Overall, in total,   all 27 graduating seniors received scholarships  totaling over $2.5 million. In addition, as of   summer 2025, 81% of AAD seniors were reported  to be enrolled in college. Excuse me. Overall,   at least 79% of students indicated they were  satisfied with their educational

057experience,   and 91% of parents indicated they were  satisfied with their child's educational   experience. Lower percentages of instructional  staff indicated they were satisfied with AAD. This slide provides the additional cost to the  school division for an achievable dream in 2425,   which totaled approximately $2.9 million.  The largest component was related to staffing   at the secondary level, which was nearly $2.2  million. The transportation and facilities costs   provided here take into account offsets based  on payments from AAD to VBCPS in these areas. The first recommendation is to continue AAD with  modifications noted in recommendations 2 through 7   with the addition of a sunset provision. According  to schoolboard policy 6-26, existing programs   that receive a comprehensive evaluation may be  subject to the inclusion of a sunset provision   at the discretion of the superintendent and/or  the school board. It is recommended

058that the   superintendent or school board add a sunset  clause based on student enrollment given the   cost of the program to the school division and the  mixed student outcome results, especially at the   secondary level. The student enrollment numbers  continue to be below those specified in the 2019   MOA between BBCPS and AAD Incorporated.  And according to schoolboard policy 6-45,   the phase out of an existing academy may  be recommended to the schoolboard by the   superintendent if enrollment for an incoming class  is 25% less than projected for three consecutive   years after the year in which the academy is fully  implemented. The second recommendation is focused   on strategies to increase AAD student enrollment  to operate at or near capacity across all levels,   including identifying acceptance criteria and  strategies for student retention overall and   for groups of students with higher rates

059of  withdrawal. The third recommendation is to   support and monitor the effectiveness  of the same curriculum implementation. The fourth recommendation is to  strengthen behavior supports for   students and disciplinary strategies to  improve outcomes and reinforce program   expectations. The fifth recommendation is to  strengthen effectiveness of academic supports   to meet students instructional needs  and promote consistent academic growth.   The sixth recommendation is to explore additional  ways to expand access to courses at the high   school level, including for AP and dual enrollment  courses. The final recommendation is to formalize   AAD secondary staff and official department  of human resources records. At this time,   Mr. Delaney, chief schools officer, will  provide the administration's response. Good evening, Chairwoman Brown, Vice Chair  Williams, members of the school board,   and Dr. Robertson. Uh, the administration  concurs with the recommendations from the   program evaluation that were presented 

060for an achievable dream academy. Um,   as Chair uh Brown stated at the beginning  of the meeting, we have members from the   achievable dream academy here to help with  our recommendations. Thank you, Miss Brown,   for your consideration on moving them up  in the agenda. Greatly appreciated. So,   at this time, Dr. Leave Breland, president  and CEO of achievable dream, will provide   their response to the recommendations and then  we will be available to answer your questions. Good evening. Thank you all for the opportunity  to be here. I thought I could do that without   glasses, but doesn't appear that that's going to  work out. Um, so my team and I do concur with the   recommendations of the program evaluation that  were presented for an achievable dream academy.   There are some specific things though that I  would like to highlight

061and take a few minutes   to discuss each recommendation and how some of  those things have already been in the works or   some of the things that uh we plan to do in the  future or at this time. Under recommendation two,   we had a very successful recruitment process for  2526. Um, but we noticed an unexpected dip in the   student enrollment at CATAC after we had taken  the students through the enrollment through the   recruitment process. We projected that we would  have 408 students enrolled at CTAC this year. As   of October 31, we had 330 343. Uh so we did a deep  dive into that. 32 of those students moved out   of the division, out of the school district. 10  students moved out of the expanded transportation   zone. nine students and families decided that they  that the extended

062day program would not work for   them due to um siblings being in other schools so  on and so forth. In addition, and this was a big   one, um we had projected that Virginia Beach had  projected that we would have 65 students enrolled   in kindergarten that were zoned for CEKC. We  currently have 47 kindergarten students and   18 of those were recruited in the recruitment  process. So we um the the projections for the   number of of incoming kindergarten students was  drastically different than what we expected for   the 2627 school year. We're already off to a great  start. Joy Boone um who is the the coordinator um   at the middle and high school level um is making  sure that we are participating in all of the   recruitment events and we have student ambassadors  that are joining her at

063all of the feeder middle   school um events and presenting at academy nights.  That's giving everyone an an opportunity to have   an authentic experience. They're asking those  students questions that that they otherwise,   you know, wouldn't have the opportunity to  directly ask a student who is in the achievable   dream program. Under recommendation three,  prior to the program evaluation feedback, we had   already strongly prioritized strengthening staff  understanding and confidence in delivering the   same model. Um, this work began over the summer  during inter session and continued throughout the   school year. Key initiatives included professional  development, capacity building, and follow-up   surveys where all staff were expected to respond  to provide feedback. Under recommendation four,   an achievable dream has taken significant steps  to strengthen student behavior support and ensure   consistent disciplinary strategies across  all schools. Through the implementation of   our pathways

064to improvement framework, we have  expanded the processes and supports in place   for students to improve discipline, academic, and  attendance. It is a systemic approach partnering   with the school administration and parents  to support students and ensure their success   in school. To provide targeted support, we have a  full-time family and wellness support coordinator   in place at both CEK and Linhaven. Last year, we  had one person that was between the two schools.   This year, we have someone at each school. They  provide indiv individualized one-on-one support   to students. They also work with the students and  families to provide strategies to manage behavior   effectively both at school and at home. They also  provide professional development for staff focused   on trauma-informed strategies ensuring that  teachers have tools to deescalate situations   and maintain positive classroom environments.  Additionally, they provide sessions for families  

065to learn practical techniques for supporting  their children during moments of escalation.   Under recommendation five, an achievable dreams  chief learning officer is co-leading efforts with   VB's elementary executive leadership team to  ensure that AED support for the instructional   program at CTAC is both intentional and  strategic. Through this collaboration,   AAD will strengthen and complement the division's  existing initiatives, providing targeted impactful   support while avoiding any duplications in our  efforts. Um, we will be reviewing jointly the   assessments that that the data the assessment data  that is informed the planning for Saturday school,   extended day and summer interession. At AAD  Linhaven, PLC planning has been an area of   focus and progress. School leadership is ensuring  that an air that areas of academic concern are   addressed through targeted interventions during  our extended learning, our extended day. This year   all dreamers are assigned

066almost exclusively to  AAD teachers which is s is a a significant shift   from previous years and has already improved  our ability to track data hold consistent   instructional conversations and maintain co  coherent across coherence across classrooms. Under recommendation six, we continue to refine  our high school program to ensure students have   meaningful access to advanced and diverse academic  opportunities. During the 2526 school year,   we've added two new AP courses and eight  additional electives to broaden students academic   experiences. To support this expansion, AAD funded  AP certification for four teachers through the   College of Women and Mary, increasing our internal  capacity to offer and sustain advanced coursework.   This year, five students are enrolled in  ATC. One student is participating in NJOTC   in the NJOTC program at First Colonial, and 12  students are enrolled in dual enrollment courses.   We are

067currently surveying dreamers to identify  desired course opportun options for the 2627   school year ensuring that students voice  directly informs future programming. Under   recommendation seven, we will be working with  VB to address this recommendation. In closing,   I have included additional information for  recommendations 2 through six in your packet.   at an achievable dream. We are proud of the work  we are doing with Virginia Beach and we believe   deeply in how important this work is to help  our students find and accomplish their dreams. There any questions for me at this time? Miss  Melnik. Hello Miss Freeland. Um so first before   I ask any questions, congratulations on the  um graduation rate that that's commendable   and should be noted right out of the  gate. 100% graduation, 81% I believe   um are attending college and so um kudos to  um everyone

068at AAD. I think recommendation six   um will satisfy my question. Is that where unique  courses fall under? Okay. I get head nods from Dr.   B. Okay. Um, how does the retention statistic  compare to the divisions, the teacher retention   statistic on slide 12? Um, did it say 70%. I  didn't write down the percentages, but um I'm   just curious what our teacher retention rate and  I would I guess for apples to apples I would say   at a maybe at a particular school or particular  I just wondering how we do overall. Do you I can   speak to that. Okay. Good. Yep. So at this at this  time we do not have a a division number but we can   work we can definitely work with the department  of human resources to see if that's a feasible   feasible you know

069thing to calculate. Okay. I also  think it's important to note that the long-term   continuation that was slide number 15 that 41% of  the students no longer are even BBCPS students.   And so that that for you is a is a big piece to  this puzzle. I mean, not just leaving the program,   but leaving VPCPS in general. Like you can't  ignore that stat. That's that's pretty big. Um   and then the other is always going to be and we've  talked about this at um the Renaissance Academy.   You have 70% of your student population are are  economically disadvantaged and we see this trend   um with um behavior. We see it everywhere we go.  Um so I can't ignore that statistic either. Um,   so, um, I think that's all I have for now. I'll  give a colleague another I'll come

070back. Mr. Ken, Miss Fre, thank you for your presentation as well  as your associates who are stacked behind you and   the information that they made available. Uh, I  had comments on recommendations one, two, three,   and four. And you stole the the comments on one,  three, and four. So, you've reduced my speaking   time to recommendation number two. And I do again  want to reiterate that when this material is made   available to us as members on the board, you're  giving it to us with the hope that we actually   read it. And there's a lot of data that's  presented here and it takes a serious effort to   go through it. But because you're presenting it  to us and hoping that we do, I want to at least   share with you the observation that I believe is  still pertinent

071relative to recommendation number   two. And again, I'm not going to paraphrase. I'm  going to read it verbatim from the recommendation   itself. And it says the following. Continuation  of students from the 2023 to 2024 school year to   the 2024 2025 school year showed lower percentages  of students who remained in the program at the TR   transition points between school levels with 67%  of grades five and 78% of grade 8 students in the   2023 through 24 years remaining in the program  in 2024. In essence, you were losing ground on   that matter. And I'll finish with this final  statement. Although annual continuation rates   were generally high, continuation in the program  was lower long term. So, it seems as though from   my reading of it, not being in the weeds like you  guys are, but as I read it, it

072tells me that the   people that you're bringing in and hoping to  persuade to become faithful followers, some of   them are dropping off along the way. And it just  causes me to at least observe that and to express   my concerns about that because I know you're  interested in attracting and retaining as much as   you possibly can, but this gives me an impression  that that's challenging and I just wanted to to   talk about it. I appreciate you bringing that  up because um it really is our intention when   we accept a student into the program. The goal is  that they will stay with us the entire time. the   goal is post secondary you know how are we going  to be able to support them during that postsec   those postsecondary years one of the things that I  failed to

073share with you the 32 students and that   left the division and nine students or 10 students  that moved out of the expanded transportation zone   those were not newly recruited students those were  students that were already in the program. So yes,   when you look at the numbers from 23 24 to 25,  no from yeah 23 24 to 25 2425, those students I   said that wrong. 2425 to 2526. Those students were  not newly recruited. Those were students that left   the division or left the expanded zone. So that  is a high pro. I mean, that's 42 students right   there that we know exactly what that we were  out of that was out of our control um because   they were no longer either in the district or in  one of our zones where we provide transportation. Okay, I I

074appreciate that clarification. Again,  it just causes me to however pay attention to   things like this to see whether or not are  we keeping those we're baptizing. I couldn't   agree with you more. I mean, I really couldn't.  And I think it is something Dr. Robertson and I   have talked about this. I mean, at length, how  do we we want them in Virginia Beach completely,   right? And we definitely want them in achievable  dream. Um, so how do we make sure that we're   retaining those students? How is there anything  we can do to we do an exit interview with every   student that is leaving the program? Well, I  guess in conclusion, the fact that it's pointed   out tells me that you're seeing this and paying  attention to it and seeking to do what you can to   address it.

075And I just want you to know it's noted  here and I appreciate the information and we'll   be paying it close attention and praying fervently  for your ongoing success. Thank you. We appreciate   that. Mr. Bowensteel. Yes. Uh, thank you for all  your presentation. I have a couple things I want   to say, but I wanted to elaborate on Mr. Ken's uh  comments being someone that's been fairly around   the academy and I'm very happy about it. They have  a standards. This is my opinion that they adhere   to and and they don't and that's the way it is and  sometimes people can't follow that standard. So I   mean my thing is do not lower your standards, keep  them where they are and if the people can't meet   that then that's just the way it is. And I thank  you

076for acknowledging that. And also I was at the   graduation which was also pretty cool being at the  first one. And the question I have is 81% enrolled   in college which is 22 students. Do we have any  information on the other five? Were they what they   are doing? I mean is it good stuff so to speak?  I'm glad you asked that because um as a matter   of fact um Amanda was on the emails that um went  back and forth about two of them today. Two of   them are in a trade program um and the so we were  specifically talking about where they stand in   those trade programs. One is struggling a little  bit and so we're providing some additional support   in that program. So yes, um I would I would like  to say that that's one

077of the biggest strengths of   our program is what is happening postgraduation,  especially at a time when when they're in the   world and can, you know, flounder a little bit.  Um that's when we intervene and and really look to   see how can we make sure that they're staying on  track. So, three are gainfully employed um and two   are in a trade program and and we are monitoring  exactly what they're doing as well. Okay. And at   the beginning of the uh presentation, I'm somewhat  big into foundations and I wanted to acknowledge   the principal. I'm going to mess up his last  name. Fishu Fisky. How about how about off the   record we Matthew? Principal Matthew. uh and I've  had a pleasure to meet with him outside of school   stuff. So, it was cool. Um but yeah, I just

078wanted  to acknowledge the work that he is doing there and   uh because that's big. And then I come across  slide 21 and I see where the staff agreement   has kind of mediocre. But then when they move on  into the secondary, I see that it goes way up,   which also I give him a lot of credit for for  sticking with it and and and uh making these   students I don't know how to say it, but anyway,  I want to acknowledge that. And also, I see some   of my friends out there, too, that are here.  And uh if you've never been to the handshake,   I encourage you to go, but I do have a disclaimer.  You're going to get a handshake. Thank you. Vice   Chair Williams. Thank you, Dr. Veland. It's always  nice to see you. Um,

079yeah, kudos again for the   graduation rate. And I know that when we started  this and we went to Newport News, how many years   ago was that? I don't even remember. 2013 when you  guys I remember that was what was so impressive   and that you know it um they kept telling us we  have such a good statistic and good track record   of graduation rates and so that really made an  impact and an impression on me and and that's   great. Um a couple things um so the kindergarten  class was lower than you expected. So that's just   because the enrollment at CATAC just happened to  be lower than than the demographer or anybody else   suspected. Is that correct? I would defer that to  but yes I do believe that that's the case. That   is correct. Okay. And what

080is the refresh me on  the what what are the times of day beginning and   ending school? What what's the time of day for  elementary? The extended day. Yeah the extended   day. Kindergarten is traditional. It does not  change. First grade changes at second semester.   Um, and it now don't get me to make Yes, please.  I don't want to try to say the exact times. So, kindergarten goes every day 8:30. They walk  in the door and they leave at 3:15. First grade   does the same thing. Semester 1 and then first  graders stay for extended day. Semester 2 from   8:30 to 4:30. And then second through fifth  grade every day 8:30 to 4:30 except Friday   we all go home at 3:15. Okay. All right. Okay.  I I couldn't quite remember. Um Okay. So in 25   I think it

081on with one slide it said you had 263  applications. You accepted 58%. Um so that's about   160 students. Does that sound Am I quoting that  right? Let me find the page. It's it's slide four.   263 applications received, acceptance  rate 58%. Does that mean 58% of the   263 or 263 was 58% of those who  applied? Can you clarify exactly   what that is? It was part it was  overall the students that applied. Okay. So there were more than two 263 represents  the students that were accepted and that is 58% check. Okay. Well, and then that just kind of  leads my question. So if 58% So what would I I   apply and what would cause me to be for y'all to  say you know sorry you're not going to join this   program? What what would be that for

082I mean  because if only 58 I'm just confused by that   number. 58% of all applicants if 58% well in some  cases we if we didn't have enough space based off   of teacher allocation um depending on the grade  level that okay that was a situation that we ran   into at the K5 level. So, so what happens is we  get allocations from BBCPS and during the school   year we our memo of agreement has lower class  sizes in K through five, right? So, we developed   a waiting list. We have students on the waiting  list. But in kindergarten this year, we brought   everybody in immediately to try to get the number  up because we were light with kindergarten. But   in 1st through 5th, we were up against our memo of  agreement number. Okay. Because of the number. So,   there

083was a wait. So, there are waiting list. We  look we dip into that when students move out the   next one the waiting list comes in. So we do have  students on a waiting list right now one through   five. Okay. Thank you. There's where that number  comes in. Okay. Very good. And that is something   that Dr. Robertson and I talked about already for  this upcoming year that we have to go ahead and   and set the teacher allocation to reflect those  the number of students that we are wanting to   accept. Um otherwise we're limiting ourselves  to we're working against ourselves for lack of   a better way of saying it. So that's something  that he and I have already talked about going   into the upcoming year. Okay. Okay. And then one  last thing, slide 20, I think page

08410, slide 20,   the discipline, student goal four, behavior and  discipline. Okay. Because it has an asterisk,   does that mean that Okay, so 20% of elementary,  you better come up with students have received a   referral or multiple referrals. So, so does that  mean that's greater than the other school kids   in other schools? What what does that mean?  Clarify. Yes. So, um the data on the slide is   a a little bit. So, what it is is 20% of the  measures were favoring achievable dream. So,   um and that was in for that for elementary it  was they had a lower in school out of school   suspension rate num average number of out  of school suspensions. So it was favoring   achievable dream. Okay. Does that make sense?  So yeah, I mean just not on paper. Yeah. When   you're looking

085at this, it's like, oh my goodness,  what has happened to the achievable dream students   that they're like behavior is But you're saying  like at high school 60%. What does that mean?   So 60% is four of the five measures which are  the the the measures for each level are the   percentage of students who have um at least  one referral, percentage of students who have   multiple referrals, average referrals, average in  school suspensions and out of school suspensions,   right? So the the percentage is how many of  those measures were favoring an achievable   dream? So at the high school level, um  60% um were favoring achievable dream. I don't really know. I I'm I'm not getting this.  60%. Yeah. I don't know why. I think what you're   saying is of when you look at the achievable dream  students in

086comparison to the comparable group,   right? Yes. Correct. So you're you're comparing  apples and oranges and the achievable dream kids.   uh behaviorally in 60% of the instances were  performing better which is lower discipline   numbers than comparable. Discipline is complic is  especially complicated. Thank you Dr. Robertson.   Okay. Because when you see it on paper it it kind  of like looks opposite of what it really is. So I   just wanted to make sure. Yeah it looks it looks  opposite. So you know maybe we could work on that   slide com. Yeah, work work on that slide for  future presentations. Can I also add that um   those were internal goals that an achievable dream  set. So in comparison to the previous year because   we're always working to improve upon these areas.  Um so we had I known that we were

087going to do the   evaluation this year in full disclosure I might  not have set the goals quite so high as I did. But   um but they were internal goals that we set  high for ourselves um and and we're happy to   share with the evaluation team. Yeah. Okay. And  I would like to echo Mr. Bowensteel, you know,   the standards are high. Keep them that way. And I  love the morning work. I remember going in Newport   News and at Allon and at Cook. And I do that  as as a PE teacher. Every morning I stand at   the door and get high fives. And if they're not  looking me at the face, I scoot down. I'm like,   you know, right to the face. right to the face.  I don't do handshakes, but I do high fives. So,   um

088I think every school should do that. Thank you  so much. Thank you, Miss Rogers. Hi. Thanks so   much for your presentation. Um I'm kind of uh No,  I 100% am um echoing Mr. Kellen's concerns with   um with recommendation number two. On slide  14, if you look at student enrollment patterns,   in September of 2024, we were at 33% with the  high school. And in 2025, we are still at 33%   with high school students. And it's two years ago  um the achievable dream came to us and asked for a   coordinator to help with recruitment and that was  granted. Last year I was sitting on the board and   it was asked to expand um the the transportation  area in order to help those rates. But what was   presented tonight was that, let me find, oh shoot.  Um, I

089believe you said it was 59, I don't know if   it was 59% or 59 transportation expansion, uh,  59 students transportation expansion was at the   elementary level, not at the middle and high  school level. And so because if you look at the   data that you're giving us that the majority of  the money that is being spent by Virginia Beach   City Public Schools is on secondary staffing,  but we're not getting the results of those um   you know recruiting those students and retaining  them. It is of high concern to me. I want to make   sure that when we are investing in achievable  dream with a a coordinator that is supposed   to help with recruiting with expanding the  transportation as we've done the last two years   that there is results being shown for that and so  because I'm seeing

090these numbers it is a concern   that we should be seeing an increase in that um  recruitment and retention. um for this program to   continue um to be successful. So, uh I'm glad you  brought that up. Um the reason that we highlighted   the number of students at the elementary level  was because that's where we saw the dip. We can go   back and give you those numbers for students who  left at um the middle and high school. We just did   not see that dip at the middle and high school  level. um the I believe it was 70ome percent   at the middle and high school level that we  accepted out of the applications that we received.   Historically, an achievable dream has never taken  students beyond sixth grade because we have a   model that builds upon our culture, our

091program  each and every year. For us to take students 7th,   8th, 9th, 10th grade is an exception, right? We  built the wing for that. We built the wing at   Linhaven and spent the money to build the wing for  that. And so because we did make that investment,   the expectation then at least for me and the my  constituents is that we we made that investment   and so we want to see that that investment is  worthy and that we have the students coming in and   we have the students being a part of achievable  dream. That's why we spent the money to do that.   Does that make sense? And so again, it's a concern  for me that yes, you want to see capacity at all   grade levels. However, we also gave we are, you  know, paying for a

092coordinator and we expanded the   transportation zone for those purposes. Does that  make sense? It absolutely does. And um we accepted   Joy, can you tell me off the top of your head  how many students we accepted? Six through 10.   It was y 73% for middle school and 80% for  high school for the 2526 school year. And   and so that's your acceptance rate. So for the  number of students enrolled, is that an increase,   a decrease, or did it stay the same from the  year before? It's an increase. Okay. And so then   there was a huge dip in the elementary school.  Correct. Okay. All right. Thank you, Dr. Green. Hi, Dr. Breand. Thank you. And my first question  is for Dr. Brock because I assume you may have   this data. Um if under uh in slide 13 or

09314 area  uh student characteristics, would it be possible   to get um the enrollment pattern by um out of  out of zone like if they were supposed to go to   Bayside Middle and they're it um ADA or another  middle school. Would it be possible? And and the   reason why I would like to see that data, Dr. for  you. And I think it may be helpful too as as you   look at um strategies for recruitment as well um  to to see where um the expansion because a lot of   students may not or families may not know about  the expansion and I think that would be a good   marketing strategy to help you um increase your  enrollment especially at the secondary level.   Um the next question um I have is related to  and this may be your response

094Dr. Ver Verlin.   Um recommendation number seven where you stay  where the recommendation about a staffing person recommendation number seven formalize ADA uh  secondary staff. Okay. What what does that   mean? Yeah, I can speak to that. So currently  all of the secondary achievable dream staff   members are designated as Linhaven Middle School  staff. Okay. In official human resources files. Um   so we are recommending that that be adjusted so  that it's clear who which staff members are the   achievable dream secondary uh staff. Okay. When  you say staff assigned to achievable dream or a   staffing specialist assigned to achievable dream  teachers. Yep. Okay. That that's what I I didn't   understand. All right. Thank you. Yeah, Miss  Felton. Thank you, Chip Brown. Miss Berlin. my   how far we have come from 12 students to over 700  students. Long wait. Um

095just like to say to you I   appreciate your staff and all that you've done and  the warm welcome that I get when I come to achieve   a dream is it's overwhelming. Show me around. Show  me the new things. I just like to say number one I   appreciate um Miss Boone, Dr. Brown, Mr. Bray for  attending the community outreach that I invited   them to and from that outreach they received a lot  of conversation and parents were not aware of the   expansion and they were really excited about  just seeing a tree of a dream there. Not that   uh VBC uh public school it was represented by  many but it was just that particular group that   was there that they found a lot from from them.  Um, number two, I'd like to say when you have a   small

096population, we have many more concerns, but  it's a growing population. It's good. I'd like to   say thank you for that graduation that we had.  Overwhelming. Uh, the only thing that I would   say next year just have some tissue boxes  so we can, you know, noted. That was great.   Um, we're talking about transportation and  and you did come to us for transportation   to expand your program which we gave that to  you as well. And we talked about under your   recommendation under recommendation number two.  You talked about 32 students moved out of the   zone and 10 moved from out of the division and  10 moved out of the zone. From the 32 that moved,   I received 10 phone calls. They wanted to come  back. How could we do that and get them back   into the system? From

097the 10 that moved out of  the zone, I got all those calls as well. They   move parents called they move but literally where  some of the zones were the parents had to walk the   students to those zones and they were crossing  streets that were very dangerous. Uh mothers   literally crying how can we change this and we  know that we are on a quality of cycle thing that   we cannot just keep you know we had to see how  this particular transportation transition worked.   But out of those 32 that moved out did not want to  move, but they moved because of cost of living and   they had to get new jobs. One parent that moved  back, she said, "Miss Felson, I took three jobs   because I like this program." She's working three  jobs just to be in

098the Tribal Dream. This program   is very important to those 32 that moved away  from the division and from the 10 that I zone.   This program is very important and they appreciate  it. I'm looking forward to us maybe it growing   more. It's not that they did not want to come and  the program was not good. It's transportation and   it's getting to the school and is being there  in the midst of it all because it does offer   quite a few things for these students. So I say  again 32 that moved out of the division went to   another city was all it was not their fault. They  wanted to be back. The 10 that's out of zone. They want to be able to put the students  back into the school. But it's because of   transportation. And that's some

099of those are your  elementary students and parents that had siblings   that they had to coordinate and some just could  not do it. And let me say, I'm glad you brought   up transportation because if transportation can  make it work, they most certainly do. I really   can't speak highly enough of transportation in  Virginia Beach and the accommodations that that   they will make if they can. But I just wanted to  put that out there because dropping out was not,   as someone used, dropping out along the way was  not their option. They want to be in the school   but it is transportation especially with the  elementary age. There are some parents that's out   of zone. They get up early when they have to get  up take their child to then haven middle and then   go to work. Then afterward

100they come back and pick  this child up. That's not from hearsay. That's   from conversation talking to parents and they want  that. So I would like uh just to say just put that   out there that this is not a dying program. is  um oppositions is challenging transportation.   Thank you for the job that you do. I will be back  to visit you. Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair.   I want to let you know that Mr. Cummings has  his hand raised. Mr. Cummings. Yeah, thank you   so much for sharing today and I apologize that  I can't uh join you in person and and whatnot,   but I just had a couple quick questions for you  and then I have a question also for Dr. Robertson.   Um so first and foremost when we're talking about  acceptance rates and admission rates

101and we see   x% accepted is there x% enrolled out of those  accepted or is that like 57% accepted all of   those enroll is there another data point there?  No that is the percent that actually are attending   okay the the program. So that sorry that's the  enrollment rate. Okay. So, you know, looking at um   the presentation, I think there's a couple things  that kind of stood out to me. One of them being   um you know, high school attendance and then, you  know, the programs not being fully enrolled. So,   I kind of wanted to hear, you know, what are some  of the specific things that you'd want to do to   increase enrollment uh you know, for across all  the programs, but also being specific like how   strategies for hitting those attendants? um goals  as well. So again,

102I want to establish that those   attendance goals that we set were internal  attendance goals that that we were seeking to   improve upon our goals from last year. So, um,  you know, I want to make sure that that we're   clarifying that because these were not goals that,  um, Virginia Beach City Public Schools came to us   and said, "These are things that you need to work  on." These were not issues with our attendance.   These were goals that we set internally to simply  improve upon where we were last year previously.   Um, so we will do the same things that we have  done each and every year and that is making direct   phone calls home if there's an attendance issue,  making home visits, um, you know, determining what   the what the obstacles are. if if it's you know  um

103other students in the household um if there's a   reason why the student is not particularly engaged  in coming to school what do we have to do to meet   their needs and meet them where they are that will  be our plan each and every year with students um   on a one-on-one basis on a case-byase basis um I'm  sorry what was your other question uh just about   well since we're talking about attendance let me  ask Mr. Dr. Delaney, real quick. Um, you know,   I'm a huge fan of the attendance intervention uh  app and technology that you showcased to us. Do   those students in achievable dream? I assume the  answer is yes. But do those students also receive   the same interventions that the that the tech you  showed us? Yes. Uh, Mr. Cummings, they do. And I   think

104a key component of your question overall is  we are pretty much locked up as Virginia BC public   schools and achievable dream academy. We don't  operate in silos. And uh from an elementary school   perspective, Department of School leadership meets  with Mr. Fisky and the AADA team. If not monthly,   formally, informally, probably weekly. On the  secondary level, there's consistent meetings   amongst the Docsel team with Dr. Brower, Dr.  Smith, and the AADA team and and Miss Boon. She's   involved in our principal league meetings as she  was today. So when you talked about recruitment   the question you were asking there uh she's at the  academy nights as was shared in the presentation   has students going out ambassadors to go out  and share the program with other students. Uh   the unique challenge I think for secondary AADA  is the competition

105with othermies and the options   that we have across the school division. I think  the uniqueness of AADA from my perspective is when   you see 70% of those students are economically  disadvantaged and the numbers that are going   on to college and the postgraduate opportunities  that Dr. shared to me is the biggest advertising   point for many of our community members that as a  school board and as a school division is the group   of families that I know Miss Boon is targeting and  that we are really heavily looking at that are not   aware of the services is provided not only I'm  repeating myself not only while they're students   here but they don't let go of them when they leave  and that they try to assure that they have all   the tools in place wonderful partnerships  that exist throughout

106our community. Uh,   but I think their biggest challenge on a  secondary recruitment end is the lack the amount   of competition for other academic programming that  exists in Virginia Beach. We're blessed with that,   but that's kind of the cross they have to  bear as a result. So, I think with Miss   Boon's leadership and secondary folks, as often as  we're talking, it is a heavy emphasis to get those   numbers up because we know that population that  they're serving is a group that might get lost   in the shuffle otherwise. And, um, I'm just  being very kind of honest in that response.   Yeah, I appreciate that and I I appreciate  what you said spec spec sorry specifically with   um the population that this this organization is  serving and so I applaud that effort that we're   increasing college access and

107economic empowerment  um you know and you know I'm definitely thankful   for for that work and so I guess the pivot um  my question for you Dr. Robertson is in along   with I guess the board is one of the pieces of  the evaluation that was touched upon was the   sunset clause. Is that something that's going to  be added to um a motion or something that we're or   the evaluation that or needs to be added within  whatever we're voting on or are you looking for   guidance on developing that or what I saw that  the administration concurred with it. So is that   something specific that's going to be put out in  writing? Mr. coming since this is Cammy Lenetti   speaking. Yeah, we would need to look at your  agreement, your MOA with AAD. They have an MA   and

108amendment to that. That's where we would  place it. So, we would have to revisit that. All right, that's all the the questions I had.  I was just just curious because it came up in   the recommendation, so I wanted to see what was  going on with that. Thank you. Okay. Um and um   I just have a couple of comments before we um  cycle back through the board members that have   had an opportunity to speak. I I did attend the  graduation. It was very touching graduation and   I'm I'm really happy about the 100% graduation  rate. So good job on that. Um I really liked   something you said about that post-graduation  support. you know, as you were talking about those   students and what the students are doing that are  not enrolled in college that you were following   up

109with them to see how they're doing and see if  they need any support. I really do like that piece   uh quite a lot. So, I'm very happy about that.  Um my question is as it relates to the 65 zoned   kindergarteners and I just want to make sure that  I have some clarification. And I know that um Vice   Chair Williams had asked this question um sort of,  but was that 65 projected kindergarteners or are   there 65 actual zoned kindergarteners? And does  that make sense? Yeah, I understand the question.   I'd have to check for the exact I don't want to  give an incorrect answer. My assumption, Dr. Bach,   is that in there? I'm I'm It was in response for  the Okay. projected but it's not projected based   on zoned the demographers gave us yes so zoned  students

110and then so I would be very interested   in what the actual amount of kindergarteners um  that were zoned is instead of the projected zoned   number because um you know otherwise we're looking  at 36 students determined to to do something   different and so you you know, and that's that  would be my next question. Of those students   that did not choose to go to achievable dream and  went elsewhere uh that were zoned kindergarteners,   do we have any pulse on the rationale? Was there  any reasons provided that we can use to kind of   There were only two correct only two. There was  only two. Yes. That chose to go to Birdneck.   Okay. versus um um an achievable dream. Okay.  So, so that's interesting. So, there was 65   projected kindergarteners in zone then. And based  on that, I can

111arrive at the conclusion that there   was actually only 31 zoned kindergarteners.  29 of them are going to achievable dream. So,   I don't even need that answer because Yeah.  Here we go. Um correct. All right. And um okay,   so that's that's good information because  otherwise it looks like a a huge number or   choosing. I'm glad you asked that because we do  wanted to clarify that. That's an important point   to clarify. Right. Right. Okay. Um and and you  know, I I appreciate everything you do and I'm   I'm hoping for the success. I I am concerned  about the enrollment numbers and I understand   the reasons due to the the transient area um you  know and the othermies that we have you know and   it's I know that makes it sometimes a little bit  more difficult but um you

112know we do definitely   need to get those um those numbers up and I I know  that you guys are exerting that effort And um I do   believe that in maybe another year the attendance  zone approval will probably you know pick that   up. So I'm willing to you know kind of continue to  wait and see here um at this particular point. Um   my other question I believe is probably for VBCPS  staff because it's it's financial in nature. Um or   right? Uh uh yes. So on page 71 of this uh report  here in the longer report um it it talks about the   staffing costs and allocations for the secondary  program. Um and it says that it was 2,164,950. It then goes on to say that there were four  additional high school teacher allocations   provided by fund funds

113from the department  of school leadership. However, the costs of   these four FTEEs were not included in the total  additional costs to VBCPS due to these costs not   specifically being additional to AAD and because  they could have been used at another high school   if they had not been provided to AAD. In addition,  although AAD Secondary has an exclusive school   counselor, the funds for the position, we're not  based on the AAD student enrollment exclusively.   Um I kind of would like to know what the number is  with that additional stuff because I I do believe   that is related um because we are utilizing a  resource and so I I I don't think that it's too   I don't think it's fair from a um evaluation  perspective for us to exclude um those those   costs. And I'm I'm not knocking

114the the costs.  I just the costs are real. We're spending them.   Um that I'm counting five five uh employees  exclusively right there. And then my other   question is based on the allocation of teachers  um the FTE teachers. So when we allocate that,   so say the enrollment does not go up, will we  use those allocations still or will those they're   based on student enrollment? that allocation would  come back to docsel school leadership. Dr. Brower,   Dr. Smith would decide where else that allocation  could be better used or they would hold that   allocation in the event something was needed  elsewhere later on. And that that is the summary   of what Dr. Brower did with those hold allocations  that he provided to uh achieve a dream academy,   those four that you referenced. So those  return back. So that is

115what we do every   year. That's when we have the discussion a lot  of times around fine arts programs and they're   wondering where those allocations are. It's  based on student enrollment. Okay. And I just   wanted to verify that. But yeah, um just any  of those numbers of additional folks, you know,   um and employees that we have that are going over  there that aren't being utilized elsewhere. I I   do want that information. Um I don't know if  those five are the only ones, but um with that,   Mr. Bowensteel, thank you, Mr. Delaney for  uh pointing out the fact that the director,   Miss Bon, is doing what she's supposed to be  doing. I've seen that firsthand. Um so, I mean,   things take time. We just can't expect her to  come in and just, you know, make numbers happen.  

116But more importantly, I think we're overlooking  some of the important factors of the achievable   dream. And it's not just about the attendance. We  had 22 students that are enrolled in college that   I'm going to try and walk gently that very good  chance they would not be enrolled in college if   it wasn't for the achievable dreams academy and we  got more coming. We've seen that also. Mr. If you   don't mind if I can just point that out because  I think it's an important point that when they   hear you say 22 may not have gone. It wasn't  because of aptitude they may not have gone.   It's the opportunity that's been provided and  a a big bonus of AADA is the financial support   they provide to students and commitments they do.  So I just wanted to say that.

117No, thank you for   interjecting that. That is important. I appreciate  that aptitude. It's not. It's a opportunity and   financial commitment that AADA puts out. I think  that's why I said I was marketing a little bit   for Dr. Breand here Christmas time. I got to  pay for some kids, right? But also uh we were   talking board members have been bringing it up.  uh un what I'm not sure exactly how to phrase it   with the Renaissance Academy was it economically  disadvantaged. So I mean the big picture is a lot   of those students who were economically advantaged  could potentially end up at Renaissance Academy. I   mean that just you know just throwing that out.  So there's more to just the attendance. I mean,   there's a lot going on there. And the important  stuff is that we're giving students,

118children,   an opportunity that might not have an opportunity  to succeed in life. So, that's just another   interjection I had. Thank you, Miss Malnik.  So, Mrs. Lenetti, the what was the purpose of   mentioning the sunset claw? the sunset clause  only because we have to review that every so   often because it was it was mentioned and you have  well I didn't do the report so they have to the   department that was a recommendation coming out  of the department normally with new programs you   have a sunset clause this is not a new program it  was built into the MOA whether you were going to   continue it you made that decision okay different  than other programs because this is an outside   agency you wrote an MOA in the board did in 2013  you had later on amended at. So

119the terms of how   this program works are set forth in that MOA.  It's not like your internal programs that you've   developed is a separate organization that you  Well, that's what I needed to know because it just   sounded different from the podium. It sounded like  recommendation number whatever sunset clause. And   so it's like we hear all this and then it's like  and oh by the way our recommendation is to close   it. That's That's just the way it sounded sitting  here. I'm glad to get some nods left and right cuz   it was a little confusing. So, okay. One says  that they're going to implement a sunset. Yeah,   it does. We're going to implement a sunset clause.  So, and then it talked about phasing out. So,   I just want to make sure is I can speak to  that.

120So we did we did add that piece to the   recommendation because and we thought it was um  appropriate to include um based on the MOA with   achievable dream because the current enrollment is  well below capacity. Okay. So it was an additional   piece but it is something that the school board  would be defining the criteria and um all of those   pieces. Okay. Fair enough. Okay. Thank you. Yes.  Okay. Thank you. This will be on for action at our   next schoolboard meeting in January next year and  have a good holiday break. Okay, we are now on to   the policy review committee recommendations and  we welcome Cammy Lanetti, schoolboard attorney. Good evening, Madam Chair, vice chair, schoolboard  members, and Dr. Robertson. I'm Cammy Lenetti,   the schoolboard attorney. On behalf of the policy  review committee, I'm going to be

121bringing to you   recommendations from the November 25th, 2025 PRC  meeting. Obviously, we've removed several of the   policies, so we're going to just go through the  remaining policies. The first up is policy 340.   340 is under your business section. This is a  policy called design, building, construction   management project methods. This is a procurement  matter. It is a form of by which you do project   delivery and construction. We have different  um methods that are set forth. PPA is one of   them. You've seen before we have design bid bill.  The procure Virginia procurement act sets forth   ways in which the school board can participate in  obtaining services and contracts or specific rules   on construction. Some of the things that have  changed over the years have been additions to ways   in which you can construct the PPA is actually

122not  in the public procurement act. It is in a separate   section and referred to in the Virginia public  procurement act. It is a method by which you can   obtain either outside agency participation,  funding, other things that normally weren't   anticipated. Design, build and construction  management are also methods of delivery for   construction projects. So slightly different than  what's set forth normally in what we call a design   bid bill, a traditional manner for which we do  that. It was actually brought to our attention, we   were looking at the construction management model,  which is a model that's used in Chesapeake. The   city of Virginia Beach actually pointed out that  they're using the design bid um method by which   to procure and do project delivery. So, one of the  requirements for that that's come out through the   general assembly and

123the public procurement  act is that we have to adopt procedures that   consistent with department of general services  procedures. And we went ahead and worked on that   for several months and came up with a design bid  and construction management project delivery. What   you have in front of you is not that. There is a  regulation, a very extensive regulation. You are   in the PRC. You saw that many, many pages because  we're required to adopt the procedures involved   in it. But you have a policy 340 was shortened on  that and it just expresses the fact that you are   opening up the option for the school division to  use one or two of these mana methods either design   bid within design build there's a progressive  method that you expedites how quickly you can   get the project going construction management

124just  a different method of doing that. So this policy   would authorize the school board under conditions  set forth in regulations to use this on certain   types of projects in which you've determined are  appropriate to do that for. So again, this policy   is just going to say that while you're maintaining  competitive principles, you're offering the school   division the opportunity to use these project  delivery methods on there. If you'd like to   actually see that, we have a regulation pretty  extensive regulation explains this. It follows   the Department of General Services, the  Virginia Department of General Services.   It is consistent with the city's project on this  and city successfully been using this method. So   we are recommending that you adopt this policy  to allow yourself the option of using these when   it's appropriate for the construction matters  that you're

125handling. Are there any questions?   Vice Chair Williams. Um yeah, I just wanted  to reiterate and and Mr. Bowensteel and Miss   Felton and I thought it was important to to put in  the words option. So again, this is just another   piece in our toolkit to use, you know, if we if  we go this way. And also, um, Mr. Freeman added   the last sentence, um, competitive principles will  be incorporated to make sure that everybody that   nobody was concerned that we were getting rid  rid of, you know, competitive principles. So,   and you are required by the law, by the general  put that requirement in. So this is just a   different method by which we're doing this doesn't  take out the ability to make sure that the public   has a fair opportunity to know what's going  on and that

126multiple agencies and uh proposers   have an opportunity to participate. That doesn't  change. This is just a different way of doing it.   And I just want to um I just want to take a  minute and thank staff and also the members   of the policy review committee because I know  that this particular maybe not the policy but the   policy and the regulation piece of it was a really  heavy lift and I appreciate the modifications to   make it a little bit um simpler to say it's an  option so that the the community understands   exactly what it is that we're doing with this.  So, I appreciate that effort. Hearing no other   questions on policy 340, we're going to move down  to policy 554. So, if you thought design, bid,   build, construction, management was complicated,  physical rest, and seclusion were

127also very   complicated policies. Now, I want to assure you,  you have had a regulation for many years having   to do with restraint and seclusion procedures.  It's consistent with the Virginia Department of   Education guidance for this. It is consistent with  the US Department of Education who has looked at   what we had through various cases and this is an  acceptable policy. So you do have one in place   and that's regulation five um it's 55 54.1 no 5 um  559.3 that's in place. this what we're suggesting   will replace that on there and instead of having  a policy which you didn't have before you had a   regulation we created policy 554 which is what  you're looking at here more extensive there is a   regulation 554.1 we are required by the Virginia  Department of Education to have guidelines in   place

128for when you use the substrate seclusion and  restraint that list out what the requirements are   how you can use it how you document what are the  procedures you have to follow whether you're using   research or not. You do have to have that policy  in place. So we that is what we've incorporated   into the regulation. It is almost identical to  what you see in our current regulation 559.3 just   organized a little bit differently. So what we're  going to offer for you in 554 was that you will   the division end personnel may implement physical  restraint and seclusion of students only when an   imminent risk of or an emergency arises. The other  interventions are or would be ineffective in the   reasonable judgment of the school division  personnel implementing physical restraint   or seclusion and only to the following categories. 

129Prevent a student from inflicting serious physical   harm or injury to self or others. Two to quell  disturbance. Three, to remove a student from   the scene of a disturbance in which a student's  behavior or damage to property threatens serious   physical harm to injur or injury to its person  unless the students damage to property creates   an imminent risk of serious physical harm or  injury to the student or others. The damage   to property itself does not indicate an imminent  risk of serious physical harm or injury and shall   not be the shall not be the justification for  their estate or seclusion of a student. Four,   defend self or others from serious physical harm  or injury to person. Five, obtain possession or   controlled substances or per paraphernalia that  are upon the person of the student or within the   student's control.

130And six, obtain possession  of weapons or other dangerous objects that are   upon the person of the student or within  the student's control. Again, you're not   to use physical restraint and seclusion, but  these are the exceptions why why you would use   it. Now there is a misconception that restraint  and seclusion only applies to special education   students. It does not. We have never written it  that way. It we document a lot with students with   special ed because they have bips behavior and  venture plans. We have procedures that we have   to follow for them. But that doesn't mean that's  what it's written for. And there are times when we   do need to break up fights or we're worried about  issues on there. So while we tend to hear a lot   of advocacy from the special education community  because

131they have concerns and we don't discount   those, we still need uh to the option to break up  a fight and you know very well when you look at   the student discipline cases that we handle, there  are times where we have to break up fights, we   have to take things u substances and things away  from students and we want to protect that right.   So what this is saying is you're not going to  use that unless it meets one of these categories.   Again, B is the discontinuence of physical restate  when the imminent risk or the threat is contained   and then we have less restrictive environments  that we're supposed to be using. And then again,   it goes further procedures on that and they're  laid out much more extensively in the regulation.   I have given you a copy of

132the regulation which  the PRC saw to show you that we have already   developed the procedures necessary for it. We  just didn't think we needed them in the policy. So   again, we're recommending that you implement this  policy. It is not significantly different from   what you have in 559 other the fact that you're  stating very exclusively you are not going to use   it unless it meets one of these categories. And I  do believe there's questions on the floor. Well,   Miss Melnik and then Dr. Green. So, two questions.  The first one, the state kind of clarified also   what you just said too about what's allowed as  as far as breaking up a fight that that's not   necessarily deemed restraint. Is that correct?  Correct. And again, this is almost identical to   what the state has. Okay, perfect. The other

133thing  is um does this do anything to change? I mean,   does CEP do anything different than this? Are  we in line with CEP or will this have to be   then given to CEP so they know what they can and  can't do with our students? I believe you're going   to have to the superintendent who is currently  in charge of CEP. Yeah. So um if this policy   is approved, we would share it with CISA. It's  very similar to what they're doing now. Okay.   They are they are subject to the same rules. I  mean VDE there was a difference about 15 years   ago where they some of these school divisions and  specialized schools did not were accepted from the   rules but the department of education did require  them to come into compliance with the rules. Okay.   Okay. So,

134they're not really operating at a  different set of rules. The difference with   CEP is every student there is in special ed.  So, that student has an IEP, most likely has   a behavior intervention plan, would go through  manifestation termination, things that would   document it for which may you may not see with  students who are not in special ed except in the   city of Norfol. They don't do they don't do what?  Uh, a lot of them say not to seclude. They don't   seclude. Okay. Most It's very hard to say you're  not going to restrain a student because there in   most cases you have to do something to protect  the student. They will not use seclusion and lot   a lot of people talking about our seclusion rooms.  I would imagine that we are pretty I mean I can't  

135imagine that we would use seclusion often that  we would have to use seclusion and the rules on   seclusion. If you look at the regulations rules  what the rules are there it's the room how you   have to document it the type of room you have to  have you can't just choose to put it student you   have got to be prepared ahead of time so it's  really not a procedure should be used unless   you're using it now I will noting with CEP as with  some of our special education programs these are   students with very high needs that that's why you  might see it more in CEP than you would see in   our regular population but again even if you use  seclusion the rules really really strict as to   the size of the room, what has to be

136in the room,  how long a student can be in the room. Okay? So,   it really should not be a procedure that's used  very often. So, some school divisions have said   they will not use seclusion. It's I'm not aware of  anybody said they will not use restraint because   it's really hard to say you will not use restraint  because sometimes you simply have to. Okay. All   right. But for our conversation, so the public  knows since we got off that this is specifically   for Virginia Beach City Public Schools and no  other division or entity other than than us. Okay.   Thank you, Dr. Green. Um, thank you. First of all,  I want to preface my comments that I do recognize   the importance of us maintaining a safe and and  orderly environment in our schools. Uh my concern   with the

137modifications to this policy um one I  know our department of school leadership already   has best practices in place for breaking up fights  uh when a student does need to be removed when   they are imminent threat and danger. And I also  know that so a lot of advocacy groups for students   are not supportive of this policy. One um and and  I hope this is not the case. You know I I think we   are opening up ourselves to liability especially  because sometimes human behavior on anyone's side   adult sides I especially since we are in control  can become very subjective um as well and and   that's one reason why I'm already comfortable with  the practices that we have outlined for staff.   have through docsel um in the research it does  not advocate using uh a lot of seclusion

138practices   um because to me it it makes the environment um  more threatening especially when we're trying to   deescalate a student. So was docsil involved or  yes when we were looking at these revisions and   Dr. green. This is actually a more restrictive.  This this policy is more restricted than what   we had before. So it doesn't actually look that  different. This one is very clear that you will   only use it under these circumstances. We It  doesn't look that different than it did before.   So this is not opening it up. This is actually  making very clear that you can only use it under   these circumstances. Um and again, the other one  wasn't. The current one is not that different, but   the current one allowed you to make the decision  depending on the circumstances. This one has very   clearly

139said you can only do it under these six  categories. So this is it's not opening up. This   is more this is limiting how often you can use  this. All right. Thank you, Miss Rogers. Hi. Um,   so if from what you're saying that this is more  restrictive and that if we were to do seclusion,   there was very specific things that you would  have to follow. There's always been, right?   So why do we have seclusion as part of it? Why  would this not just be about physical restraint in discussion? And again, I will let those who  do it in the schools also add to this. There   are times when you simply have to pull a student  away from other students. And for those of you   who've done student discipline, you've seen what  happens. There's a fight in

140the hallway and you   have to push one kid into one classroom and one  into another just to keep them away from each   other and the people in the hall. Technically,  that's seclusion. You've kept them out of where   they were before. Occasionally, you get a really  violent situation or very dangerous situation,   but you might use a seclusion room. We their  concern was in those situations where you   really have to do that. We wanted to protect  the staff ability to to separate them. Right.   But you're looking at it from a legal standpoint  that technically it's seclusion. But then you're   not following those specific seclusion rules  that are set up for that seclusion room, which   would then would it then fall under restraint if  you're removing children from a fight. And again,   I've had those students. Um, I

141I I I didn't put  them in a seclusion room. And so I think that   this is where people can be confused. We're not  actually advocating for using seclusion rooms.   Correct. Correct. So then, why would we not just  make this a physical restraint policy and not a   physical restraint and seclusion? Because to  me, it sounds like there's a possibility to use   a seclusion room, which we're not doing. Does  that make sense to you? You do have some rooms   and I will say a lot of their CE where they are  using them under certain circumstances. If you   want to that is an option based on the review  by the school division departments the the   determination was to leave it there as an option  when needed. You could say no seclusion, right?   But understand one of the things

142that happens  if you don't seclude a child who's acting out,   you're going to be calling mom and dad. you need  to remove the child from the school because we   cannot keep a violent out of control child there.  So it that ch that's an option for us and allow   which if we can't allow you the opportunity to  calm down then the only choice is to have you   removed from the school division. So so and and  and again then I am unclear how we are not using   seclusion rooms but yet you're saying but we have  to seclude the kids. It's a difference between   a seclusion room and just putting them in a room  where they like I mean they have you know we have   had instances where a child has to be removed from  their classroom and

143are in the principal's office   or whatever. Is that considered seclusion and is  that considered a seclusion room? That's where   I'm unclear because I just want to make sure that  what we've written is what we need to be able to   do and we're not advocating for something that we  don't want. Does this make sense? Like this to me,   I understand what you're saying. Obviously, when  you have a child that is destroying a classroom,   whatever, um, and they are removed from the  classroom into the principal's office, whatever,   is that considered seclusion if they're with  another adult because that's usually I mean,   in a classroom would be the procedure. Would  that be what we're what this is written for?   If you do that, then you're going to have  to use the procedures in the regulations   to explain what

144has to be in a seclusion  room. a that the size, the ventilation,   the ability to not have a locked door, to have  adult supervision. So, it will depend on the   room that you put the student in. And is that what  we've written here? It's in the regulation. Yes.   And it's the same thing that's always been  in the regulation. That has not changed. So,   if we then took out seclusion, we couldn't remove  a child from a classroom is what you're saying.   You could remove the child, walk the child  down the hall. You couldn't what I recall   isolated keep the child in one location. There  are other things you could do with the child. Now again it is an option for you to decide  you're not going to do seclusion and I would   have to leave it

145to those that have worked in a  school. What do you do with that student? that   would be more information that I would want to  have before making that decision, which is why I'm   I'm struggling right now on whether or not I agree  with this. Does that make sense? Because I I'm not   clear as to what we would do if we couldn't  put the child in the office, wait for their   parents to come. I I just I don't know. And so  I feel like that I need more information. Sorry. Okay. So, Vice Chair Williams, then Mr. Cummings.  Um, yes, we had some of the same obviously   conversation. That's why we've discussed this a  lot. But I mean the PRC committee, you know, under   um the expertise and the advisement of staff  obviously in our legal council,

146we had to,   you know, come to terms that this is not a special  education policy and seclusion is technically if   you break up a fight in the middle of the hall and  you put one kid in the office, you are secluding   that student. Um, so it doesn't say that's why it  doesn't say anything about seclusion rooms. We are   not advocating for that. It just says seclusion.  So, um, but yeah. So, yeah. So, technically that   would mean that if you completely do away with  seclusion, it's what we were told. and Cammy,   correct me if I'm wrong, that if you restrain or  separate students in a fight and you put one of   them in a space to be away from everybody because  you know it follows this they're they're about   to have physical harm or injury to

147self or others  and you seclude them and the office. we wanted to   make sure that you were still able to separate and  put someone in a safe space or a room, you know,   a room or the office um temporarily, you know,  and and so we just wanted to make sure that if we   took that away that we were con concerned that it  would have unintended consequences of a staff or   other students or that student being hurt. But we  we had similar, you know, questions and so that's   how we came up with this agreed with this. Mr.  Cummings. Yeah, thank you so much for sharing and   I echo some of my colleagues earlier um sentiments  and questions and concerns as well is um you know   I understand the policy around restraint.  And so I would personally

148want to see this   maybe policy broken up into maybe two different  policies because I just sit back and think about   um the presentation that we had back in June about  seclusion and that term seclusion, how loaded of   a term that is for the our community of special  needs and how they often are the recipients of   of that activity. I think that we talked about  over 300 cases of seclusion at Virginia Beach   City Public Schools. Was it last year that  they they brought forth to us? Um, and so,   you know, then that conversation and that session  really sparked my interest. Um, and you know,   I went about researching and googling and going  down the the rabbit hole. What does mental health   alliances say? What does mental health research  say? And it seems to be a practice

149that many,   you know, schools and experts in this field are  urging institutions to, you know, not necessarily   utilize because there's long-term negative  consequences of seclusion practices. So,   while you might be temporarily thinking you're  doing something good, the longevity of, you know,   that practice actually has a negative impact.  Um, and so that concerns me. And so, you know,   I do think that there are case examples that we  can look at before uh having a policion policy.   You know, I know that Fairfax, Norfolk, and  I believe Lden um now also have gotten rid of   their seclusion policies. So, we could see ask  them or identify how they're handling, you know,   breaking up fights and putting kids in classrooms  and things like that. But you know I also see that   there is you know many examples across um

150you  know the country where schools have started   to abandon seclusion and I imagine that they're  also having to handle some of the scenarios that   we have to handle on a day-to-day basis. But  personally, I will not be supporting a policy   um that has seclusion with it because I see  how that term and how that that avenue how   that impacts that uh that community um in my  opinion in a negative way. So I would ask that   you know I understand why we need restraints and I  understand you know those fight scenarios can that   Miss Lenetti that you that you touched upon and  so I can I can understand that but the seclusion   as a practice and how it's impacted a certain  community um that is a a huge worry to me. So that's all. Thank you.

151Thank you. Um before  we cycle back through um the comments, I just   wanted to ask um Vice Chair Williams, how many  policy review committee meetings did you and staff   uh work together on this particular policy?  Three meetings. Okay. Yes. Miss Felton knew   right away it it was three that we've  had it three times and it's a I mean   I agree it's a difficult one. So we tried to  strike a balance and but you know the the is   the recommendation that we came up with  after a lot of work and a lot of expert   advice and legal advice. So all right  so we have Miss Dwire then Miss Melnik. So I'm kind of I'm sitting here and  I'm listening to all of this. Um,   when we say seclusion, are we I mean it's  to me it's

152sounding like we're putting   the student somewhere by themselves. I would  assume that there's a an adult in the room. Per Virginia Department of Education regulations,  you should never have a child that's left alone in   a room. Now, if a child's so violent, you  can stand on the other side of the door,   but you have to be able to see into the room.  You have to be able to get into the room.   uh preferred method would be to have an  adult in the room with you, but occasionally,   and I've handled enough of these cases over the  years, occasionally a child can be that violent   that it's not safe for anybody to be in the room.  You have to give them a little while to calm down.   But again, you would never just walk away and  leave

153a child for a certain amount of time. You   have to be there monitoring them. You should  have a window to be able to see into there.   There's got to be appropriate ventilation.  It's got to be a safe room for them. So,   you're not just putting a child and leaving  them there long term. That's never appropriate.   Is this frequent? I mean, so we know it can  happen. Does it happen frequently that we   need to be this concerned? I think your what  you saw last year, there were 300 instances,   if I'm correct, only two of them were not in the  special the CEP program. Now, your CEP programs   are embedded within your schools. However, they're  run by a separate organization. uh so they're   following their procedures which really aren't  supposed to be that different um than ours.

154So   for our non-special education students that are  in our program or special education students are   not in CEP, we only had two instances documented  of of Australian secusion forms filed out there.   So I I can't speak to exactly why CE's doing it. I  will note to be in a sestep program, you are going   to have perhaps a higher level of disabilities or  certain type of disabilities that require you to   be in a specialized program. So, it's not totally  surprising that you would see behaviors that we   may not be seeing in the rest of the population.  That's why you're in that program is to get extra   assistance, right? Okay. So again, um we're  relying on staff and their training and their,   you know, determined at the time the incidents  happen. So um I really don't have

155a problem with   it if it's occurring like you said and in the  small numbers that it is. You know, the the   small the the incidents are not as frequent  as it seems like everybody's making it. So,   um, it's definitely to me it's definitely needed.  Thanks, Miss Melik. Oh, was any was anyone from   OPEC involved in the conversation? It went through  and the department look at him. All right. So,   so I like all of that, but I'd also be  interested in knowing how the divisions   who have removed seclusion, what they're doing to  be able to protect a child in the instance that   was brought up that there's a fight and you have  to remove a child and put him in the office. So,   I' I'd be interested in knowing. I mean, that  just seems logical to

156me, but I don't want to   create a policy um or vote on a policy that would  take that ability away for a teacher um who's in   a position where they have to think really fast  or someone's really going to get hurt. And I just I there's that crossover there that so I don't  envy policy review committee, but there is there   are there are some crossover moments there that  have me a little concerned that a teacher might   really be in trouble per our policy for quick  thinking and trying to protect a child or children   in in a terrible situation. That's the only thing  I'm worried about. But um now reminded we will   always handle litigation on this matter same way  we handle liability if anything else. So yeah,   we follow the policy. If somebody goes off

157track,  then we're going to we'll manage it the way we   do any other litigation. So that there's always  that piece of protection in there. Okay. This is   this is pretty Miss Melnick, if I may. Just one  thing and Miss Lindetti mentioned this earlier.   This policy is completely aligned to state code.  So it's written exactly like state code. Okay.   The policy is uh to Miss Rogers concern, your  concerns, your questions. That's certainly why   there's been multiple conversations between OPEC,  DSLE, DTO. Uh how do we protect our teachers? How   do we protect our students? How do we ensure  that they make a decision in the best interest   of the students and a student and are still uh  covered? Those are all things that we discussed   and have had a lot of concerns over. Um I think  to

158reiterate the point, this is not just a special   education policy. Well, that's what I understand.  But and so the example I give as a former high   school principal, yes, is doing an investigation  that might involve a weapon um assumption of   drugs, something of that nature on a child's  person or something of that end. was not uncommon   for us to have them placed in a room in the in  the office to do that investigation which some   may deem as seclusion which is outlined in this  policy is an acceptable act to do in the instance   of I'm not restraining I have them in a room to  conduct a proper investigation the dilemma then   we be we were having in discussions about this and  Mr. Lynetti talked about this a little bit as well   is and I think

159Miss Rogers asked this question. Is  that considered a seclusion room? And as a result,   does that room meet the standard of a seclusion  room? So, as we go through that regulation,   the training we're going to need to provide to  staff to be very clear in those areas is something   we're preparing to do as well. Um, so that the the  amount of training and uh followup we're going to   do on this with our security team. We we've left  out that OSAM was involved in that discussion   because they train all their security assistance  and CPI training. Uh we've had additional folks   train in CPI to assist with training staff that  might be involved in restraint. That's more of a   restraint practice. So, um, we share the concerns  across the board on how do we protect our students  

160staff around this policy and and, um, I hope  that clarified something, helped clarify some   things and and you don't, you know, you run the  risk of overthinking. Um, but you also don't want   to underthink because there are people there are  divisions that are just saying we're just done.   We're not even discussing seclusions anymore.  But at the same time, we could overthink this   at nauseium really. We could think of a thousand  different scenarios and so I suppose if we're, you   know, with state code and Okay. All right. I thank  you. Thank you, Mr. Delaney, for that. And I can't   recall which division it is. Just a a side note.  Um, I noticed that some of the other divisions   still outlined in policy what seclusion was and  training on it because it's required by law.   Okay. So,

161you know, for what it's worth, I don't  think that we cannot have a policy that defines   what it is uh because the law says we have to. I  will say this is a very BOE situation. They they   require you to adopt what's their model policy or  something very consistent with it and it lays all   this out whether you use it or not, you still have  to adopt this. So on the off chance that you ended   up using it, even if you said you weren't going to  use it, you had rules in place and unfortunately   that's what looks with very confusing. I will  say if your choice is not to use seclusion,   which is something you can you can do, understand  that the consequence might be that you're going to   see an uptick of students that

162have to be removed  from the school setting because we have no other   way to calm them down. They may be more often  called to their parents to take them home whereas   we might have had them calm down for you know 15  20 minutes in a room and then return them to the   classroom. If we cannot use that option which is  simply a choice understand the option might then   be parent you need to pick up your child because  we cannot control your child. We're not allowed to   use the seclusion procedures. It's a trade-off and  we all understand this. There's no good solution   here when we're in a situation where we have to  restrain or seclude a child. It's very difficult.   It's also difficult on our staff. We are trying  to protect our staff so they're not

163getting in   trouble. They have to they have to keep everyone  safe. They have to keep people learning but we   also don't want them sued for difficult decisions.  So if your decision is you don't want seclusion,   that's fine. Just understand the consequence  might be that you see other things happening   less you know opportunity for a child to stay in  the classroom and more parents having to come and   remove the child and find something to do with  them. We might be disciplining them more often. I   can't say that's automatically going to happen.  That might be something discussed with other   school divisions. That might be the consequence  of not using seclusion because that's what we're   going to have to do. If we can't hold you down,  put you down, take you into a room somewhere   to calm down,

164then you need to leave the school  property. Okay. Okay. Thank you, Miss Rogers. So,   let me ask just another question. Is there a legal  difference between seclusion and isolation? I   don't think I've seen it explained that way. It's  seclusion is the definition that VDOE gives you.   I mean, I would assume isol isolation is pretty  extreme, but the term is seclusion for education.   Okay. And and again, the reason I'm asking is  again I I just feel like from what I was reading   that a seclusion is involuntary. And so if a child  chooses to have a timeout, that's not considered   seclusion. Timeout is an exception and there, but  it still would have to be monitored how often it's   being used. And you can't call something timeout  when you're really doing secluding them. So yeah,   it's a it's

165a tough balance. You will also see  for those who've done special ed, you have seen   a behavior intervention plan with the child is  given a certain the child may go sit in this area,   may go somewhere to calm down for a while.  That's written into the plan. So you know,   you have to be careful that it's not used that  often that it becomes a seclusion thing. And for   those that are used to special ed, that's not  uncommon that they're given cool down times.   Even kids that aren't in special ed might be  given a, you know, a walk around somewhere   to calm themselves down by learning to regulate  their emotions, right? Tough decisions. And that I   will say there's really extensive regulations. It  doesn't make it easy for us to understand how to   deal with it.

166We're doing the best we can under  the circumstances. Okay. Vice Chair Williams.   Yeah. Just one final comment. I mean, that's kind  of why we left it in here to protect staff, you   know, teachers, security assistants, because if  they do have to remove someone for a little while   because of a fight or whatever, because a weapon,  um, that we didn't want them to then come back and   appear saying, "Oh, but policy 554, you weren't  allowed to do that, so we're suing you because you   put my son in the office for a few minutes. So,  you know, but you know, it's it's a tough one and   that's why we talked about it and got everybody's  input for um three different times. So,   Okay. Yeah. Dr. Robertson. Yeah. So, I appreciate  the discussion we've had for probably the

167last   25 minutes related to this and um it's a micro  example of why this um discussion went back to   the PRC on three occasions. I think what you have  in front of you right now through the regulation   is the best thinking and the recommendation  of administration. I'll just leave it at that. Ready to move on. All right. The last one is 551  with some purple. This is use of board equipment.   uh and there and we are not recommending any  changes to this policy. This is simply it's   been 5 years since we've looked at it. So we  we've had some discussion on how this is used,   how they're related policies on it, but in this  particular policy, we are not recommending any   changes. This is simply a recommendation for the  five-year review by the school board.

168That's the   easiest one I can give you tonight. And that  will be the end of the PRC recommendations.   Okay. Thank you. We are now on to Compass 2030  key navigational markers. And we welcome Dr.   Lisa Banicki, executive director, Office of  Planning, Innovation, and Accountability. Thank   you. Uh, good evening, Chairwoman Brown, Vice  Chairwoman Williams, members of the school board,   and Dr. Robertson. Tonight, I will review the  key navigational markers that are part of the   Compass to 2030 strategic framework. My goal  is to orient us to what these measures are,   why they exist, and how they were developed,  and the baseline data we now have for each one.   I'll also share some considerations related to  setting targets for these measures moving forward. To help frame this conversation, I'll  walk through five questions. First,   what are the key

169navigational markers? Second,  how are they developed and approved? Third,   who are they for? Fourth, what is our  current baseline data show? And finally,   should we set targets? These questions will  help us stay focused at the strategic level.   Key navigational markers are the high priority  measures aligned to the goals of compass to   2030. They provide a clear snapshot of division  level progress over time. It's important to note   that these measures sit at the top layer of  a much deeper internal data system. Schools   and departments work with far more detailed  and diagnostic information on a daily basis.   But the key navigational markers give us the broad  picture we share publicly to communicate progress.   These measures were developed by senior leadership  during the compass to 2030 planning process. They   were shared publicly as part of the draft  framework

170for community review and feedback   and ultimately they were adopted as part of the  final compass to 2030 framework. So the markers   you'll see tonight were built into the strategic  plan from the beginning and approved along with   the framework itself. Key navigational markers  are designed primarily for external audiences,   families, community members, and our partners.  They provide an accessible big picture view of   our progress on compass to 2030 communicated at  a level that is meaningful to the public. Again,   schools and departments work with much more  detailed information, but these markers give   our community a clear and consistent view of  how we're doing as a division. Now, let's look   at the baseline data, which is from the two 2024  2025 school year. And we'll start with goal one,   challenge each student to excel and be future  ready. These

171numbers give us our starting point   for monitoring progress over the life of a  framework. For reading, 81% of students met   state standards. This reflects the first year of  the newly implemented reading standards. In math,   79% of students met state standards.  Math also shifted to new standards. So,   this too represents a true baseline year. 68% of  secondary students enrolled in and successfully   completed an advanced course. This measure  reflects both access and successful completion.   91% of seniors reported having a solid plan for  after graduation. This gives us a read on how   prepared students feel to take their next step.  For students with disabilities, 69% graduated   on time with a standard or advanced diploma.  This helps us track outcomes for this important   student group over time. Next are the baseline  measures for goal two, enhance student well-being,   responsibility,

172and resilience. These measures  help us understand students experiences in school   and the conditions that support their well-being.  91% of students reported that their school is   safe. This provides a highle snapshot of students  perceptions of safety across the division. 91% of   students also reported they have a trusted adult  at school. This is an important indicator of   connection and support and it will serve as our  baseline for monitoring relationships over time.   66% of students reported that they participated  in an extracurricular activity or club. This   includes athletics, fine arts, academic clubs, and  other school sponsored activities. 80% of students   reported a sense of belonging in their school,  meaning they feel accepted, included, and valued   in their school community. And 90% of students had  90% or higher attendance. This indicator helps us   track students access to learning and engagement 

173with school routines. The next set of baseline   measures is goal three value and invest in  staff. These indicators reflect staff experience,   support and stability across the division. 88%  of staff reported job satisfaction. This provides   a highle picture of overall satisfaction  with their work experience in the division.   86% of staff agreed that professional learning  opportunities are appropriate to meet their needs.   This helps us understand how well our development  opportunities align with what staff find useful.   92% of staff reported being aware of the resources  available to support their health and well-being.   This gives us baseline for monitoring awareness  of the supports we have in place. Our teacher   retention rate was 91% and this serves as  a key indicator of workforce stability and   continuity for students and our staff vacancy  rate for 2024 2025 the baseline year was

1744%.   Next, our baseline measures for goal four, partner  with families and how and the community to support   students. These indicators help us understand  how well we're connecting with families and   providing students with real world community  linked learning opportunities. 77% of families   reported being aware of events, programs,  and resources provided to support students   serves as our baseline for understanding  communication and outreach. 88% of families   reported satisfaction with the opportunities  available to be involved in their child's school.   This gives us a sense of how families experience  engagement opportunities across the division. 81%   of students reported 81% of students reported  that their school provides them with real world   learning experiences. This includes opportunities  that help students connect classroom learning to   authentic practical applications. And 15%  of graduates participated in highquality   work-based learning experiences based on the  new definition

175of highquality work experiences.   This includes internships, apprenticeships, and  other structured learning experiences connected   to community and industry partners. Finally,  we have the baseline measures for goal five,   advance organizational excellence that reflects  how well our division system, structures,   and supports are functioning both in meeting state  expectations and creating the conditions that   enable staff and students to be successful. The  state has now released the first set of results   under the new school performance and support  framework. And under this system, 72% of our   schools were identified as meeting or exceeding  state accountability requirements, meaning they   were designated as on track or distinguished. In  addition, 100% of schools met state accreditation   standards, meaning they were found to be  in compliance with the state's operational,   instructional, and regulatory requirements. 86% of  staff reported that their school has the necessary   resources

176to support students needs. This gives  us a divisionwide view of how staff perceive   resourcing and support. 87% of students and 90%  of parents reported satisfaction with the students   educational experience. These two measures provide  complimentary perspectives on how well the school   experience is meeting expectations and 93% of  staff reported that their workplace is safe.   This indicator helps us understand the conditions  that support effective teaching and learning as   well as supporting organizational excellence more  broadly. When we met at your retreat in July,   I shared that I would return with the baseline  data for the key navigational markers and   begin a discussion about benchmarks. Targets or  benchmarks are specific performance levels we aim   to reach within a defined time frame. They give  us a reference point for understanding whether   progress is on track, improving, or needs further  attention.

177Before we talk about whether we should   set targets for these particular markers, I want  to share a few pros and cons for consideration. When we think about whether to set targets,  there are some clear advantages. Targets help   clarify expectations. They make our monitoring  more transparent and they can reinforce areas   where we're already strong, especially when part  of the goal is to maintain high performance over   time. There are also important considerations.  Uh, some baselines may still be stabilizing.   Targets can limit flexibility as conditions  change, and small year-to-year shifts can   be over interterpreted. If a target is set too  precisely, and for measures that are already high,   there may simply be limited room for meaningful  growth. As we think about whether to set targets,   there are a few practical considerations I want  to highlight. First, most of

178the key navigational   markers are available for reporting by August each  year, which means we have timely and consistent   data for year-over-year monitoring. Second,  if the board wants to explore target setting,   a natural approach would be a collaborative effort  between the board and the superintendent as part   of the superintendent's evaluation process  that would allow targets to be aligned with   your existing structures and expectations. And  third, whether or not target targets are set,   the division will continue to publicly report the  key navigational markers every year. Transparency   is already built into the framework.  Targets simply represent one optional   layer of interpretation, not a prerequisite for  sharing the data. This concludes my prepared   remarks. I'm happy to take any questions about  the key navigational markers, the baseline data,   or the considerations that I shared. Miss  Melnik. Um, I don't

179have any. This was great. Um,   but I did just want to comment because truency  and absenteeism is always on our uh radar,   but 90% students with 90% or higher attendance.  Woohoo. That's really good. I think it's good.   Is that good? Yeah, that's good. I thought it  was a good stat. So, just wanted to make sure   I read that properly. So, did Yeah, we're doing  that. I think we all collectively over here,   we looked at each other like, "Wow, that was  great." But um thank you for this and this is   baseline. So this is theoretically this is before  we've fully we've just now launched compass to   2030. This is the baseline from the 2425 school  year. Miss Rogers I just thank you so much for   your presentation. I just wanted to ask do we  have the

180percentage is it 100% of that we have our   respondents for our staff and our students or what  percentage were the respondents to get this data?   response rates, they're not going to be 100%. And  I can provide that information, but I don't have   it here. Okay. So, I would be interested just to  see our response rates because it gives me a good   idea of how many staff are reporting all of these  numbers, how many students, all of those things.   So, I just I'm interested to see what percentage  of our staff and students were respondents. And Mr. Ken, thank you for this report. uh questions  that come to mind. In category number one,   uh you show a 91% seniors reporting a solid plan  after graduation. Yes. Just out of curiosity,   how is that measured? We ask them,

181we ask the  students directly. Okay. Direct feedback from   them. Yes. Secondly, out of great curiosity and I  think Dr. Robertson had indicated that might have   been made available even today and that is where  we stand relative to the state's accountability   requirements. That information is now in and I  assume will start showing up in reports like this.   Yes. So, um, we've released a press release today  because the results were made available today by   the Virginia Department of Education and we'll be  coming back with a full, you're going to hear more   than you probably care to on January 13th about  the accreditation accountability results that were   just released today. We just couldn't do it fast  enough. We could have, but probably didn't want   that tonight. Sounds like January is going to be  a month filled with something

182to look forward to.   Things that are going to tell me more than I knew  how to ask for. Yeah, you just have you have time   to generate all the questions. I don't think I'll  be able to sleep between now. I know. I mean, it's   pretty exciting stuff. Yeah, we're coming. No,  seriously, we're coming back to you with a full   We've We've had that presentation created since  September. We've just been waiting for it to be   finalized and for the rest of the data to come out  and now we'll be able to see how we look relative   across the state kind of thing. So, and lastly, I  know there are different ways of looking at this   data, but uh the pros and cons page at the very  end, I can't imagine not setting targets to shoot   for.

183Yes, I get the fact that you can get involved  in chasing after numbers and maybe missing big   pictures, but I still can't take something like  this and not say, but we got to have a target   to shoot for and we get a score and we either  are like the new assessment standards show,   we're either on track or we're not. And either  way, it's good to know where you stand. Mhm. So,   this is just me kind of pontificating out loud as  it relates to my preference for seeing targets. If   you're taking a a straw poll, I'll put my name in  the category. I think I I'll put you in that list.   Yeah. No, I think I No, but I think seeing the  cons also helps you be mindful when you set the   targets. So, for example,

184if we have uh baseline  data that's really high, it's like at a 93%.   Maybe the kind of target you're setting is  that we want to maintain it at a certain rate,   not it has to be 98%. You know what I mean?  Like if there and to take into account,   one of the other things I think that matters  is those minor fluctuations. I'm not willing to   hang on a minor fluctuation from year to year,  particularly as it relates to survey data and   maybe your target can be the equivalent of a zone.  Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So, I think seeing that can   trigger more for people. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay.  So, let's keep that in mind. If we're going to   go through that process of setting targets, it's  something more than increase by 5% every year,   right? You

185know what I mean? Okay. Thank you for  your time and your report, Miss Dwer. So, thank   you. That's so encouraging. Um, I just want to  remind my colleagues that what is it? We have 85   schools and 64,000 students. So, I'm pretty sure  that's right. Right, Dr. Robertson? So, to me,   uh, we're making our benchmarks and I'm really  impressed. Um, I think you guys deserve a standing   ovation, especially when I saw 100% schools  meeting state accreditation standards and we have   all these students. So, um, I'm very encouraged.  Thank you to the staff and the admin for all the   hard work. And I especially like that 91% of  the high school students said that they were   um what was it specifically? Mr. Ken said it,  but that's the one that really stood up. We   want to make

186sure they're doing Yeah. So, we're  doing something right. Well, you guys are doing   something right. Thank you. Appreciate all of you,  Miss Felton. Thank you, Chip Brown. Dr. Bicki,   thank you so much for this nice report. Something  to end on tonight, make you feel a little bit good   about yourself, about ourselves, but and I know  you just stated baseline and you you you are   reiterating the word target. Um, and I just like  all that you've said so far. My thing is is the   uh number four partners with families and the  community to to support students. I'm interested   in that 15% uh graduates participating in high  quality workbased learning experiences and does   this mean like internships or whatever? Could you  elaborate on that 15% of partnership family? Could   you because it's low we we had a

187similar measure  under the prior strategic framework and it was   higher but we adjusted this to reflect more of  the way the state is defining what constitutes   highquality work-based learning experiences. So  we're seeing a it's a lower number but because   we want to set a target that's meaningful and  aligns to how the state defines it. Um where   is this and how do they define that? Well, and  if I could add, uh, Miss Felton, if you recall,   one of the things that took the state the longest  was to finalize the list of highquality work-based   learning experiences. In fact, I don't think that  list was complete until June, which means that our   students never had the opportunity to pull or we  never had the opportunity to pull from that list   to say which courses are we offering. So

188right now  we are looking at all of our CTE offerings and may   very well be peeling away some of our offerings  that are no longer on that list so that we can   introduce quality learning exper experiences  on that list because that 15% is very low. Um   but again the the RA the reason is the state  didn't come up with that list until June. So,   so one of the things I want to point out is we do  in addition to putting out our key navigational   markers, we have a corresponding document that  we're writing in really plain language that is   what we call a methodology document like here's  how this is calculated. So, I have in front of   me the description. So, VOE uh identifies high  quality work-based learning experiences to include   registered apprenticeships, internships, clinical  experiences,

189supervised agricultural experience,   school-based enterprise, and entrepreneurship.  but they talk about them being in high demand   fields. So it restricts it even more. So we can  also link out to what those high demand fields   are for families who may want to know how does  the Virginia Department of Education define a   high demand field. You're welcome, Miss Malnik.  So I couldn't wait for the printed version. So   during something tonight, I on my old notepad with  an 804 area code for Virginia Beach, I wrote out   all of the schools and they're the under the new  classification. So, I'm I'm very I'm really very   anxious about January 13th and um hearing um what  all of this means and being as fair as we can to   our community because I'll tell you the choice  of words, the choice of descript

190descriptive I mean it's it's pretty heinous to be a school  that is now labeled off track makes me want to cry   and I think about our teachers. I mean, my heart  sank for the principles, the amazing principles   and amazing teachers at these schools, one even  in my district. Um and the fact that people who   have so much power in this state to you know that  that decide these things that they couldn't have   thought of better words than off track tells me  that they're they have no educational experience   honestly or no heart. Um, even what you know  I'm looking that's what I'm really hoping for   are explanations for on track. The off track  is really just really horrible. Um, I think   distinguished sounds great. Um, and I yeah, it's  I'm not disappointed by the work that

191anybody's   doing right now in our school division. the fact  that we have 100% accreditation is is top for me,   but um I'll be I'm very very anxious about this  presentation and what it means for our division.   And if I were a real estate agent, I wouldn't  want to show this to anybody. Um there are   some really nice areas of this city who have just  been given a really poor report card and I worry   about just home values in those areas. I mean,  it's bigger than than just what's going on, but   uh thank you to all our teachers and all um our  administrators in all of our buildings because you   do good work every day. I just want to thank you  for this presentation. I really like having the   baseline data here in front of me.

192Um and and I I  really like how you know number one is number one,   right? and all of the other things that are  behind it are things that support number one   being increased here um which is you know the  academic achievements and being future ready um   and outcomes that you know students are excelling.  So I'm I'm happy to see this. Um, I don't think   that I necessarily feel like I personally would  want to put any benchmarks in place at this time,   but I would say that, you know, if we review this  data, you know, more frequently and when we review   it, if there's anything that looks like it kind  of stands out, that those might be areas. And I   imagine that you look at those areas on a regular  basis. Anyhow, but you know, maybe

193areas that   we might want to say, okay, this area over here  needs just a a hair bit more attention for us. Um,   my only question is this, and I might be getting  too far into the weeds by asking it, but you know,   we have 81% 79, 68, 91, 69, and those are  all represented, you know, as whole whole   percentage numbers. Um, but they're not probably  whole percentage, right? We're rounding. Oh,   yeah. I mean, yes. I would just be interested,  you know, because in some of these areas,   even going up a little bit is is significant  um and it's a significant accomplishment. And   so I would just be kind of interested in that.  like for example staff vacancy rate, you know,   we've rounded it. Um, but typically it's not not  exactly an even number. So, I

194just I'd kind of   be interested and maybe not in the just like,  you know, one two three, you know what I mean?   Not not too far in the weeds there. I'd just be  interested in that information. Certainly look to   see if there are measures that it makes sense to  report to a decimal level. You make a good point   about the vacancy. some of the other ones not  so much like they would not given the metric it   make as much sense. I mean I think there may be  a couple um where that does make sense and so I   think maybe if we could just take a look at those  and go down to the decimal where it makes sense   for us. So that was year two when we see the data  it probably you know is

195where you're going to want   to start looking at decimals too. Yeah. Okay. Well  thank you very much. Oh, Miss Falton. Yes. Just   one more point of uh concern. Uh as Miss Milet was  speaking as well and and Dr. Robertson spoke and I   asked about the 15% uh graduates participating in  high quality work. Um and it is uh a little bit it   a lot concerning when I look at all themies that  we have and the entrepreneurship programs that we   have and our students are working hard and we come  up to a certain standard where parents are one of   the students and people from other division want  what we have. I'm concerned that how the state   sort of glumped all the divisions together and  make them all look like we're doing, you know,   we're all on the

196same level of doing things and  how we do things for education concerned. But I am   um I do give a lot of praise to our teachers,  our instructors who are in there working every   day. And when you go to the academy night and  see all the things that we are doing and how   we're implementing those things and how the  parents are involved and walking around said   I want this and how some of themies just uh the  our um environmental Brock Central Academy how   it pulls in all student if even if they're going  to another academy you can also be a part of this   academy. So, it's going to be very concerned and  a very um a setback to see how the state really   regulate what is of their standard as far as high  quality workbased

197learning experiences. And I   think our teacher deserve a little bit better than  that, more being professionals at what they do and   how they do it. Talking with some teachers the  other day, if they were in it just for the money,   you know, if they were just here because they  were getting good, you know, but they said,   "I'm passionate about this. I love this and I  love to see how my children get out come back and   I invest in them. So I'm hoping they don't um Dr.  Robinson they don't uh strain us too hard on those   uh base learning high quality whip flow. I just  want to put that out and say thank you Dr. Benny   for all that you do and your staff. Thank  you. Okay, thank you very much. We are now   on to

198the consent agenda. We are going to be  voting on textbook adoption, nursing, anatomy   and physiology, Theelia Elementary School roof  systems replacement, Renaissance Academy welding   lab renovation, Lancetown High School synthetic  turf stadium field, energy performance contract,   Renaissance Academy alternative education program  year three outcome evaluation recommendations.   Are there any objections to the schoolboard  voting on the consent agendas as presented? Seeing none, I call for the motion to approve the  consent agenda as presented. Moved by Miss Wyer,   seconded by Mr. Kalen. I call for the vote to  approve the consent agenda. And Mr. Cummings,   how do you vote on the consent agenda? Yes.  Thank you. And Madam Chair, we have 10 eyes. So,   the motion to pass for the approval of the consent  agenda. Thank you. We are now on to personnel   report and administrative appointments. I call 

199for a motion to approve the personnel report   and administrative appointments. Moved by Miss  Dwire, seconded by Miss Melnik. Any discussion?   Seeing none, I call for the vote to approve  the administrative and personnel appointments.   Mr. Cummies, how do you vote on the personnel  report and administrative appointments? Yes. And Miss Melnik, how do you vote? I didn't  vote. I'm sorry. Thank you, Madam Chair.   We have 10 eyes. The motion to pass for the  personnel report administrative appointments.   Thank you. Dr. Robertson, do you have any  administrative appointments? Yes, Madam Chair,   I do. I have four. Uh, first, we're pleased that  you've accepted our recommendation for Tova Hayes,   currently an admin assistant, split between  Glenwood and Linhaven Elementary School to   be the next assistant principal at New Town  Elementary School. Love one's plate. One page,   please. Next up, we

200have George Loer Jr.  currently an admin assistant serving at College   Park and Holland elementary schools to be the next  assistant principal at Linhaven Elementary School. Next up, we have Megan Smith, currently an  admin assistant at John B. Dye and Thurood   elementary schools to be the next assistant  principal at Malibu Elementary School. And then finally, we have we're pleased you've  accepted our recommendation for Sharita Pigen,   currently an assistant principal  at Corporate Landing Middle School,   to be the next assistant principal  at Lancetown High School. Thank you very much. That concludes our  appointments. Thank you. We are now on   to committee, organization, or board reports.  Do any board members have anything to report? Vice Chair Wings. Um, yes, just  to remind everybody that the   PRC meeting is on December 18th. And  what time was that, Cammy or Cheryl?

201It's December 18th. Oh, yeah. 3:30 and then also I attended the gifted advisory  um board um committee meeting last week and   I'll tell you that is such a joy to go to. They  are so organized. That's that's not hard to hard   to believe though, is it? But they are organized  and they went on school visits and reported back.   So it's just I've really enjoyed that committee.  Thank you. Um, Miss Melnik. Um, so next Friday,   the 19th, we have a BU meeting. Um, and that  will be televised for the viewing public. Mr. Callen, I had an opportunity to  attend the Xmas files presentation.   It was a dress rehearsal at Allenton Elementary  School put on by a large number of the elementary   school students and it was all about the  Christmas season and the Christmas spirit   and

202done in a sci-fi creative perspective.  It was really enjoyable. Uh the students   were very impressive in their delivery of  their lines and their performance and did   it with a lot of motion and passion and it  was fun to be a part of it. That's great. Um, I also want to report that the SEAK,  the special education advisory committee   is going to be meeting on January 12th,  which is before our next meeting. Um,   and so that will be going on. And  also they do public comment for um,   families of special education students. So, if  you're interested in public comment or you know   somebody that would want to provide that, they  are trying to seek additional public comment,   that's something that they're really looking to  do this particular year. So, I told them that   I would mention

203at our meeting and since this  is our final meeting before our holiday break,   I want everybody to enjoy your break and whatever  you celebrate, whether it be Christmas, Hanukkah,   or just your time off. I hope that  you enjoy it and that it's restful and   um rejuvenating. So with that, it is 9:08 p.m.  We are adjourned. Thank you. See you at 9. Yes.

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