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Special School Board Meeting - 8/27/2025

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YouTube / VBSchools
Date
2025-08-28
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Virginia Beach city, VA
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19,235 words · about 107 min
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2026-06-08

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001[Music] [Music] Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. [Music] [Music] [Music]   I wonder. [Music] [Music] [Music]   Hey. [Music] [Music] [Music]   Good evening. My name is Kathleen Brown and I call  this special school board meeting to order at 6   p.m. on this 27th day of August, 2025, pursuant  to Virginia Code 2.2-3707 and bylaw 146 section B,   C, and D at the call of the chair and on the  request of the superintendent or designate with   the concurrence of the chair and on the request of  three school board members in writing to the chair   and clerk of the school board. The purpose for the  special meeting is namely to discuss consultation   with legal counsel in close session as needed,  presentations regarding health insurance premiums,   employee health care costs, and potential future  steps. Madame clerk, would you please call the   role?

002Thank you, Madam Chair. Present in  the school board chamber are Chair Brown,   Vice Chair Williams, Mr. Bowensteel, Mr.  Kalen, Mr. Cummings, Miss Belton, Dr. Green,   Miss Melnik, and Miss Rogers. Thank you. And  um Miss Dwire is on the way. Would you please   join me in a moment of silence followed  by the pledge of allegiance as you're able I aliance to the flag of the United  States of America and to the republic   for which it stands. One nation under God,  indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay, we are now on to the adoption of the   agenda. We'll accept a motion to  adopt the agenda as presented. Moved by Mr. Callen, seconded by Miss  Melnik. Any discussion? Seeing none,   I call for the vote to adopt  the agenda as presented. So, Madam Chair, we have nine

003eyes. The motion did  pass for the adoption of the agenda as presented.   Okay. And Mr. Cummings has something to say.  Uh, thank you so much, Chair. Um, as many of   you folks know, I'm a strong supporter of public  education and I do want to acknowledge that I'll   be stepping away from tonight's discussion and any  votes because of my work with Cinta Health Plans,   which is the selected vendor of our health plans.  Um, because of this, I'll be recusing myself   from tonight's board discussion just as I did  previously when Mercer presented. Um, I will still   be present to listen, but will not participate  in the conversation. Okay. Thank you. Um,   we are going to read into close session, but the  school board is going to go down the hall to the   Einstein lab so that everybody

004here today can stay  in chambers during that time. Vice Chair Williams,   would you please read the motion to go into  close? I move that the school board recess   into close session accordance with exceptions to  open meetings laws set forth in code of Virginia   2.2-3711 part A paragraphs seven and eight  is amended to deliberate on the following   matters. Seven, consultation with legal counsel  and briefings by staff members or consultants   pertaining to actual or probable litigation  where such consultation or briefing and open   meeting would adversely affect the negotiating  or litigating posture of the public body.   For the purpose of this subdivision, probable  litigation means litigation that has been   specifically threatened or on which the public  body or its legal council has a reasonable basis   to believe will be commenced by or against a  known party. Nothing in

005this subdivision shall   be construed to permit the closure of a meeting  merely because an attorney representing the public   body is in attendance or is consulted on a matter.  Eight, consultation with legal counsel employed or   retained by a public body regarding specific legal  matters requiring the provision of legal advice by   such counsel. Nothing in this subdivision shall  be construed to permit the closure of a meeting   merely because an attorney representing the  public body is in attendance or is consulted   on a matter namely to discuss a status of  pending litigation or administrative cases.   B. Consultation with legal counsel regarding  probable litigation, retention of outside legal   counsel and pending litigation matters.  Moved by Vice Chair Williams, seconded by   Miss Rogers. Any discussion? Seeing none, I  call for the vote to go into close session. So, Madam Chair, we

006have eight  eyes and one abstension. So,   the motion to pass to go into  close session. Thank you. [Music] Daddy. [Music] I'm baby. [Music] [Music]   Heat. [Music] Hey, Heat. [Music] [Music] Hello. Heat. [Music] Whereas the school board of the city of Virginia  Beach has convened a closed meeting on this   date pursuant to an affirmative recorded vote  and in accordance with the provisions of the   Virginia Freedom of Information Act. And whereas  section 2.2-3712 of the code of Virginia requires   a certification by the school board that such  closed meeting was conducted in conformity with   Virginia law. Now therefore, it be resolved that  the school board of the city of Virginia Beach   hereby certifies that to the best of each member's  knowledge, only public business matters lawfully   exempted from open meeting requirements by  Virginia law were discussed in the

007closed meeting   to which this certification applies, and only such  public business matters as were identified in the   motion by which the closed meeting was convened  were heard, discussed, or considered. Okay,   I'll take a motion on the certification of close  moved by Miss Melnik, seconded by Dr. Green.   Any discussion? Seeing none, I call  for the vote to certify close session. Mr. Ken, how do you vote? Thank you, Madam  Chair. We have nine eyes and one abstension. So,   the motion to pass for certrica certification  of close session. Okay. Thank you. We are   now on to our presentations regarding health  insurance premiums, employee health care costs,   and potential future steps. and we welcome Crystal  Pate, chief financial officer, and Linda Matkins,   director of benefits. Actually, uh, Madame Chair,  I'm going to start, uh, the meeting tonight. I'd   like

008to thank all of our attendees tonight for  coming out to learn information about how we   got to where we are. And for those of us those of  you who are joining us live um from home tonight   administration and our partner Mercer will be  presenting detailed information on the projected   healthc care coverage and rates for 2026. The  information in this presentation is vital to   everyone's understanding of how we arrived at  decisions regarding health care which includes   multiple factors. So let's begin if you go to the  next slide. So in this presentation we will begin   with an introduction of the dilemma which in a  nutshell is the rate increase of nearly 100% to   health coverage costs that for the past three  years have been kept very low. This sticker   shock was unexpected and sounded an alarm with 

009employees. They felt blindsided and wanted to   know how this happened and whether any other  actions could have been made. Because of this,   we have front-loaded the presentation focusing on  staff who may be watching or in attendance so they   can receive the information of greatest interest  to them before moving into the complexities of   healthcare coverage and costs. To assist in  the explanation of how we arrived at this   point, we will begin by sharing employee  compensation data for the past five years.   This is important as providing all employees  with an an attractive compensation package is a   school board and superintendent priority as this  promotes recruitment and retention of staff. We   will then share information on the 2026 projected  healthc care coverage contributions from Virginia   Beach City Public Schools and from employees  who select one of our health

010care options.   This will be important for everyone to see how  costs are shared. Determining health care coverage   costs is an annual process. To help level set this  work, we will share historical health care funding   and how funding impacted rates. From there, we  will conclude the first part of the presentation   by sharing a communication timeline to outline  work completed over the past 10 months and more   specifically over the past five months. Marshall  will then join us and share detailed information   on potential rate change scenarios before diving  into the complexities of projecting health care   costs using a number of key drivers and variables.  We will then provide answers to any remaining   questions sent to administration by board members  before ending with an FAQ to further assist staff.   As I mentioned, the real dilemma is  in how to

011address the everinccreasing   cost of health care. Every school division or  business that offers health care coverage to   their employees is grappling with this issue.  The issue we have before us as an employer,   how do you balance available funding in a manner  that provides an attractive compensation package   to your employees? And when a sudden change  occurs, how do you keep your employees informed?   It is obvious the increase to health care costs  in 2026 caught employees by surprise and we must   do better and we will do better keeping employees  informed in the future. Know our strategic plan   compass of 2030 has two goals that will guide  the work to come. Goal three sets the priority to   value and invest in staff. When staff received the  news of the projected health care rates for 2026,   they didn't feel

012valued and that we were investing  in them. Tonight, my team will share information   that will show how we have invested in  you and will continue to invest in you.   It will also show that my actions when notified of  the recommendation to increase rates back to where   they were from 2019 to 2022 were immediate, made  with the best intentions and represented a major   change to how and when healthc care rates had been  shared with staff in prior years. Goal five also   plays a role in all budget decisions as we seek  to advance organizational excellence. An important   point for everyone to understand that impacts this  dilemma is that every organization, in this case a   school division, must establish an annual budget  that is grounded in priorities and available   funding. When funding increases, organizations  can do more. When

013funding is flat or decreases,   organizations can do less. When costs go up and  funding has not changed, organizations must adapt.   Virginia Beach B City Public Schools has a  fiscal responsibility to allocate funds within   a projected budget and may not overspend that  budget. Any decisions to add more funds to one   area of the budget must be balanced with an equal  reduction to another area of the budget. Despite   any wish to do more, no matter how important it  is, will be accompanied by a loss in funding to   another area. Over the past two weeks, my team has  been diligently reviewing our work, identifying   areas for improvement and problem solving to  address this dilemma. Tonight, you will get   just a glimpse of that work as we are committed to  working within the confines of an improved budget   at

014the discretion of the school board. And now I  will turn the presentation over to Crystal Pate,   our chief financial officer. Thank you, Dr.  Robertson. Good evening, Chair Brown, Vice Chair   Williams, schoolboard members. Dr. Robertson.  Joining me this evening is Linda Matkins, director   of consolidated benefits, and David Kio, principal  with Mercer, who will provide more in-depth detail   on tonight's topic. Before turning it over to  them, I would like to briefly share with you   and with our viewing public the highlights of our  compensation investments over the past five fiscal   years. A compensation package represents the full  value of what employees receive in return for   their work. This includes salary, health benefits,  and other financial and non-financial rewards   that support support both their professional  contributions and overall well-being. Over the   past 5 years, Virginia Beach City Public Schools 

015has dedicated additional funding of approximately   $171 million to salary and wage increases and an  additional $27.5 million to employer contributions   for the health plan. Together, that is nearly  $200 million in added investment to our employees   compensation packages. Drawing your attention  to last year, 202425, the school board allocated   over 32.1 million towards salary and wages, which  supported a step increase of 1 to one.5% effective   July 1st for employees along with a 2% raise for  all employees effective August 1st. In addition,   the school board committed an additional 11  million to keep healthc care rates flat for 2025.   The total investment in compensation for 2024-25  was over $43.2 million. For this school year,   202526, the school board allocated over 29.1  million towards salary and wages, supporting a   4 to 4 and a.5% raise for all employees. They  also

016set aside an additional $8 million to   maintain health care costs for 2025. The total  compensation investment for 202526 amounts to   more than $37.1 million. We wanted to highlight  this broader view to document how important it is   to the school board to provide employees with the  best possible compensation package each year based   on available funding. By stepping back, we can  better see the substantial long-term investment   that has been made in our employees compensation.  And with that perspective in mind, I will now turn   the presentation over to Linda and David to walk  you through the additional detail of information. Good evening. Good evening. Um, and if I  could just as you get to slides with charts,   I've had a couple board members  ask if we could briefly pause um,   if there is a lot of complexity.  So,

017in mind, thank you. In the next several slides, we will  review employer contributions towards   employee and retirey uh, coverage in response to a  schoolboard member's request for this information. You can see that um schoolboard  employees or or school employees   are offered a point of service or POS  plan and a consumer-driven health plan   or CDHP. You can see that we offer five tiers  of coverage. Employee only, employee and child,   employee and children, employee and  spouse and family. To review these costs,   we will first focus on the school employee  POSOS family coverage outlined in red.   The 2026 total annual cost for the school  employee POSOS family coverage is $35,69543. The first column shows cost without an employer  contribution to uh health savings account or HSA   and the second column is the cost of coverage with  the HSA.

018But the POSOS plan that we're focusing   on at this moment is not eligible to offer  an HSA. And therefore, these amounts for the   POSOS are the same in those first two columns. The  funding sources to pay for this coverage include,   if you're looking from right to left, an  annual employee contribution of $7,96128, an annual employer contribution of $23,54543 and an annual health fund draw down of $4,188.172. The combined value of the employer  contributions and the health fund   drawd down for the school's employee  POSOS family coverage is 27,73415. That number is not shown up there. It's just  those two columns added together. As mentioned,   there are no HSA contributions for the POS  plan and therefore this column is zero.   To review the CDHP plan, we'll focus on the  school employee CDHP family coverage also as   outlined

019in the red at the bottom portion of this  slide. The value of this plan includes an employer   contribution towards a health savings account.  So, we will review the funding sources for the   second column to the left, which is the total  annual cost with an HSA. The 2026 total annual   cost for the employee school employee CDHP  family coverage with an HSA is $31,867.91. The funding sources to pay for this coverage  from right to left again. An annual employee   contribution of $4,140.60, an annual  employer contribution of $23,54543. an annual health fund drawdown of $3,462.11 and an annual employer contribution towards the   HSA of $719.77. The combined value of  the employer contributions for health,   the employer contribution to the HSA and the  health fund fund draw down equals 27,727.31. And just for clarification, um, as this is  confusing

020when looking at the rate sheet,   the employer contribution provided to those  enrolled in an HSA plan for single coverage   is actually an annual contribution of $750  rather than what you see here of $431.86. And   for all dependent tiers, the contribution  is 1,250 rather than what you see here of   71977. The reason it is shown differently  here is due to the fact that all employees   enrolled in the CDHP plan are not enrolled in  receiving an HSA funding. So the amount shown   are the average cost to the employer spread  across all enrolled for accounting purposes.   I don't want someone to think that um we have  changed the HSA contributions. So I wanted to   clarify that they are still $750 for single  coverage and 1,250 for all dependent tiers. School retirees are also offered a point of  service

021a PO. Hold on. I'm sorry. Um, Miss Rogers,   I'm sorry. I just wanted to clarify. Um, and for  everyone for so our point of service plan would   not be the high deductible plan. The CDHP would  be the high deductible. That is correct. So,   what is the deductible for the high deductible  plan? Just so that I understand what it is. It's   2,000 for if for um those enrolled in an employee  only coverage and it's 4,000 for those enrolled in   any dependent tier. So after the employee only  if you're employee child or employee children,   employee spouse or family, it's 4,000 for the  high deductible. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Sorry.   You're welcome. All right. Looking at this slide,  this is actually for retirees. So school retirees   are also offered a POS and a CDHP plan. They're  the same

022plans offered for employees as well as   all five tiers of coverage. And for clarification  and looking at this slide, um although the term   employee was used in the in these tiers, it this  is actually for retirey coverage. So to review   costs, we will first focus on the school retiree  POSOS retiree only coverage is outlined in red.   The 2026 total annual cost for the school  retiree POSOS retirey only coverage is $15,122.94 and the funding sources are annual  retiree contributions of $3,74.88,   an annual employer contribution of $10,400, and  an annual health fund draw down of $1,647.97. The combined value of the employer  contributions and the health fund draw   down for the school's retiree POSOS  retiree only coverage is $12,486. The 2026 annual cost for the school  retirey CDHP retirey only coverage   as outlined in the red at

023the bottom  portion of the slide is $13,6949. And   the funding sources are from right to left  the annual retiree contribution of $1,4598,   an annual employer contribution of $10,49, and  an annual health fund draw down of $1,210.32 in addition to an annual employer  contribution towards the HSA of $431.86.   The combined value of the employer  contribution and the health fund draw   down for the school retirey CDHP  retireyonly coverage is 12,427. And the same thing applies that I mentioned  about the HSA. The contributions into   those plans are still 750 for single  coverage and $1250 for dependent tiers. It's the same. they they actually are enrolled  in the same plans and offer the same coverage. In the prior slides, we provided employer  contribution by plan and tier for each employee   and retirey enrolled. This historical health  healthc care funding

024is taken from the fiscal   year-end reporting for monies paid in total by  fiscal year. So this is looking at actuals and not   projections. Rates are developed with projected  cost on a calendar year basis. The top part of the   chart is the total employer contributions and the  bottom part represents the employee and retirey   premiums. The total employer contributions  for the 2019 fiscal year end was 67 million   67.6 million. You can see how the contributions  increased year-over-year with the projected cost   for fiscal year 2026 of $ 105.8 million. The total  employee retirey premiums for the 2019 fiscal year   end were 18.1 million. They dropped in the fiscal  year 2023 through fiscal year 2025 years to 9.4   million and are projected to be 13.8 million in  fiscal year 2026. The employer has consistently   paid a significant portion of

025the total cost  of coverage. And looking at fiscal year 2019,   it was 78.88% 88% and it grew to 90.77% in fiscal  year 2025. The projected rates would cover 88 for   2026 would cover 88.46% of cost leaving  employees to cover the remaining 11.54%. This slide provides a look at historical employee  premiums. In review of the employeeonly coverage   for the point of service plan shown at the top,  which was formerly called the POS premiere,   premiums were $63.29 per pay period in 2019.  Premiums remained $63.29 in 2020, 2021,   and 2022 with no increase in premiums or changes  in plan design. In 2023, premiums were reduced to   $29.75 per pay period and remained $29.75 in  2024 in 2025. There were also no plan design   changes in those years. In fact, information based  upon paid claims data combined for both

026plans for   calendar year 2024 indicates that the plan paid  89% of the total costs paid to providers while   the members paid 11% of those cost. the 2026  premiums will return to the $6329 which are the   same premiums that were in place seven years ago.  You can see from this chart that the same held   true for both plans available today in all tiers  of coverage where the premiums remain the same   in the years 2019 through 2022, reduced in years  2023 through 2025 and returned to the 2019 premium   level for 2026. It is recognized that employees  hired after 2022 when the reduced premiums were   already in effect may be more surprised by the  premium increases for 2026. Also to note when   the middle plan the POS standard was eliminated  the plan design for the CDHP plan formerly

027called   the POSOS basic was improved to cover a greater co  insurance percentage. Over the last three years,   the rising cost of health care was absorbed fully  by the health fund balance in 2023 and in 2024 and   2025 by a combination of additional investments by  the employer as noted earlier by Miss Pate and the   health fund balance. The health fund will not have  the means to absorb increases in the future and   employee funding has already reached the level of  covering nearly 91% of cost. As discussed earlier,   this is no longer a viable solution and therefore  premiums were increased for the 2026 plan year. This is hard to read, but this communication  timeline from October 2024 to August of   2025 shows the dates when the need for for  increased healthcare funding was communicated,   provides highlights of key

028dates when  changes in plan projections occurred,   necessitating addition additional rate scenarios  and ultimately contributing to the larger premium   increase and the dates when final projections were  received that led to finalizing the rates. The key   dates provided indicate a typical timeline. The  specifics for 2026 include October 8th of 2024,   schoolboard presentation to revenue sharing form  formula reconciliation with higher trend reported   than prior years. November 12th, 2024 requested  reversion funds to close the healthcare gap.   November 25th of 2024, updated projections that  necessitated an additional 10% increase in the   employer contributions beginning January  1st of 2025. November 26 of 2024, 5-year   forecast reported an expected increase of 15% in  fiscal year 26. January 28th of 2025, schoolboard   workshop reported healthc care increasing  by double digits. February 25th of 2025,   schoolboard workshop reminded need for 10 million  in healthcare.

029March 4th, 2025, schoolboard   presentation on healthcare with options for  increases increases of 15% as presented as option   two and 35% presented as option one. May 21st of  2025, updated projections due to increase in cost   with updated claims experience and effects of the  American Rescue Plan on drug pricing. June 24th,   2025, updated projections with update and  expected trend from a 7% to 9% affecting   both the 2025 and 2026 plan years as well as  um was also factored was expected movement in   enrollment from the POS plan to the CDHP. July  of 20 July 25th of 2025 were the final updated   projections. July 30th of 2025, we finalized  the rates. This date to finalize rates was   important due to the fact that our configuration  changes within our enrollment platform provider   with benefit focus were needed by July 31st

030of  2025. Then on August 7th, 2025, a notification   letter of increases in healthcare premiums  were released to our employees and retirees. If we could wait and until um she's done with  her portion and then we'll ask questions. You   could just notate which slide it is. This  communication timeline dives a little deeper   into the key changes and projections and the  actions taken in finalizing the rates. Details   of these key dates include March 4th of 2025 and  some of these are were mentioned earlier, but this   goes into a little greater detail. At the time of  the presentation to the school board, gross cost   was projected at 127.8 million you utilizing a 7%  trend in claims experience through December 31st,   2024. In this budget meeting, staff shared two  options that would increase the employee share   of health coverage

031in 2026. one at 15% and one  at 35%. This was a signal to staff that health   coverage costs were very likely to increase to  somewhere in this range. Dr. Robertson was asked   by Chairwoman Brown if any action was needed at  the time. He said no as we were waiting on the   first quarter of healthcare data for 2025. On May  21st of 2025, Mercer obtained claims experience   through March 31 of 2025 and incorporated expected  changes in pharmacy spend due to the American   Rescue Plan Act with updated projections to gross  cost of 130.6 million. They also updated our   employer contribution to reflect 105.8 million.  the previously reported 110 million had assumed   another budget increase of 10% for fiscal year 26  and we had asked them to um not include that as   these the the updated created a

032greater reliance  on the I'm sorry so the we asked them to change   that because we hadn't um budgeted that monies for  the fiscal year 2026 year so that's why the change   from 110 million to 105.8 in that column. These  updates created a greater reliance on the health   fund reserves. On June 24th of 2025, projections  were updated with an increase in trend assumption   to 9% previously at seven affecting both the 2025  and 2026 plan years with gross costs now projected   at 135.6 million. a rate um scenario to increase  the premiums to the same cost as was in place in   2022 resulting in an aggregate increase of 97%.  It also incorporated a 4% change in enrollment   migration from the POS to the CDHP plan. This  result these changes resulted in a 200,000 deficit   projection of the health

033fund balance at 1231  2026. This data resulted in further discussions   internally and with Mercer about health care  costs for 2026 that could be higher than options   shared in March. Since this was the first time  we had seen a 9% trend increase, we felt it was   prudent to review funding scenarios before making  recommendations to the superintendent. On July   3rd of 2025, internal discussions among staff  to discuss funding options and rate scenarios   took place. On July 25th of 2025, we received  and reviewed additional funding solutions that   we had requested from Mercer, including the 9%  trend in the 4% migration on other options. With   no changes to projections from June 24, the  benefits and budget team met to investigate   options and settled on a recommendation to return  health care costs to the rates used from the   2019 to

0342022 time frame, which resulted in a 97%  average increase from 2025. On June 30th of 2025,   discussions and decisions on direction was made  to finalize rates. This was the date when we   first notified the superintendent that we would  be recommending rate increases that are we are   discussing this evening. Dr. Robertson expressed  a deep concern about the increase and directed   staff to develop a communication to share with  staff as soon as possible. He wanted employees to   have plenty of time to digest the information and  make decisions before the typical process where   employees learn of their health care costs when  they receive their benefits information long or   just before open enrollment. On August 7th, 2025,  the employee notification letter was released. And if I could, um, I'm just going to open  the floor for any questions that

035we have. Um,   seems like a natural spot to ask. Um, I know  Miss Rogers. Um, Rogers. Okay. Okay. Hi. I have   a couple of questions. Um first of all you just  talked about you know that there was um discussion   to the board about percentage of increases. Was  there at any point like did you guys communicate   actual numbers of how much it would cost our staff  or did you not have that information? I believe   that information I I don't think that we showed  employee premiums when we were doing that because   at that point we don't typically look at employee  premiums but I I can't recall do you know um you   talking about the March 4th meeting the March 4th  and then I also have highlighted May 21st you are   saying that Mercer emailed updated projections  um

036and that we had a presentation with Mercer   I was just wondering I don't recall seeing any  of the premium increase numbers numbers. I mean,   we discussed that there was a going to be a gap  and I recall it being asked, but I don't recall us   getting those numbers because I recall being told  that we didn't have them yet. Is that correct?   No. If they had provided a a 15 and a 35% rate  scenario, it wouldn't have been that we didn't   have them yet. We may have just been tal and we'll  have to look to find out if we had provided those.   I have the presentation. We did when we discussed  those options on March 4th. There were rate tables   that showed what the increase to the employee  would be under each employee. Right. And looking  

037at the rate tables, there was an option one and  option two. But are those the two things that we   presented when we presented it to the staff? No.  And that's I think the timeline that Linda's going   through is that that was very early on. And as  cost increased and things kept going in the wrong   direction, that's when we started monitoring and  trying to increase employer contributions in order   to try to keep those rates stable. And we just  got to a point where we had to make a decision and   we couldn't keep it stable. So what was presented  then was presented to the board in a public meet,   you know, in a public workshop, but it was not  communicated because there's been no decision   at that point. We were looking at scenarios.  Right. Okay. So that's

038what I I I just wanted   to make that clear that we weren't presented with  the I guess we'll call it option three that went   out because we were told option one could be,  option two could be, but it actually wound up   option three, which wound up being much higher.  Correct. If you want Yeah, if you want. There's   were there were other scenarios that were also  looked at, but that those were not presented as   well as we looked and tried to see what the trend  was and what was happening to the cost and and all   of that. But with regard to the timeline, so we  have to have our budget completed at some before   the governor signs off by the state. But you guys  don't have your final numbers correct until the   end of June. That

039is correct. If you look at some  of the stuff on the communication do um timeline,   you know, by code, we have to have a budget  approved by city council on May 15th. And so if   you look at some of that those earlier dates when  they're looking at claims data, we're in 2024,   very early 2025. So, we're working with the  most recent data we have, but there is quite   a delay from when we have to approve a budget and  when that trend continues to go and we only have   one window when we can increase employee premiums  and that's a January one on the plan date for we   we do have some options as an employer during the  year. It's a programming thing. If we look and we   have done that where we think we need to

040increase  employer and if we think we can fund it and we're   trying to to do that, we we do do that but it's  not like every month or anything like that. No.   So we basically don't get the finalized numbers  after June 30th every year. Yes. Correct. But   we have to have our budgets. That's correct. So  there is always going to be like an information   gap so to speak because we will never get our  numbers on health care finalized until well after   a budget has to be established. Yes ma'am. And  that's always been the case. It's just that what   you see now is a little bit of an unusual anomaly  with the way things move. Right. So here's my last   question I guess. Was it communicated via email or  letter or any kind of communication to

041the staff   after the March 4th or the meeting that we had  where we were discussing percentages that it was   a possibility that healthcare could increase? Did  we give some sort of like general statement out   to staff that basically said we're looking at our  healthcare costs but it's possible they could be   increasing for next year year. No, a lot of that  was just done in public meetings. it was not done   as directly staffed because I mean I don't have  a good reason. My my thought would be I I don't   want to put stuff out which may or may not be  happening. what we tried to communicate and advise   the board that because we as far as back as July  of 2024 when we did school board retreat and I   know some of you are not on

042there but we I talked  about at that time we were starting to experience   double digit increases in our trend and that we  would likely have an increase on 11 126 but at   that point there was no percentage mentioned  at that time right because there wouldn't be   able to be that unless we had a crystal ball  which we don't have. All right. Thank you. Okay. So on these charts you talk about the  annual health draw draw fund draw down. Is   that with the proposed increases on um I'm  on slide seven and on slide six the um when   we're talking about the health fund draw down. So  typically your contribute your total cost is made   up of your employee and your employer funding  that equals your total cost. But because as   you all were made aware our

043health fund balance  was very healthy back in 2023 and that's when   the decision was made to reduce rates. And when  doing that, the employer and the employee funding   uh when you start relying on the health fund  itself to pay for your ongoing cost, then   um at some point, you know, that will be depleted.  So I'm not sure if that answer right. I I guess   this says 2026 annual health fund draw down. So  that in 2026 it is relying on I think it was 11.4   million for the for the scenario that we provided  in the 97% rate increase and David will be um   going over the details of that information in just  a moment. Um but yes the the 2026 year is still   relying on the health fund draw down. Okay. Um all  right. Um and

044then on slide 10 under uh 5212025 uh the American Rescue Plan effect on drug  pricing. Um that's pretty interesting. Could   you speak a little bit more about that? Sure. So  what uh and David probably can fill us in with a   little more information, but that bas in essence  is lowering diabetic drug insulin pricing. So,   when the member goes to have their  prescriptions filled, they're going   to actually see the reduction in their rates.  Um, some drugs, as you may be familiar with,   but there is rebating rebates that come back  to the plan um based on certain drugs and that   was diabetic drugs is one of those. And so,  there's large rebates that come back to the   plan. They get deposited back into the  fund for the benefit of the the group.   But with this change, it's

045going there the  members themselves will receive the benefit   of that. So then the rebates don't come back to  the total plan. So that did have um an impact, Miss Melnik. Okay. So looking  back at slide nine where you   showed the historical employee rates. Yes. So, our employees are basic are paying the same  rate for 2026 as they did for 2022. Yes. Okay. And   then just so the public knows in that graphic  23 24 25 was when we were able to make a more   significant impact on the healthcare. So okay I  just wanted to make sure I understood that and   that the public understands that. So for those  three years when we had more money Okay. All   right. So, we're back at the exact same number  from 2022. That's correct. Okay. Miss Rogers,   I had another

046question. Sorry, I thought of um  the you mentioned that the benefits and budget   team met. Is is that I know that we're kind  of tied to the city. So, is the benefit and   budgets team the one that you met with? Is that  just the school side or is that the combined?   That was just the school side. Okay. So are there  like I'm guess I'm trying to understand how this   all gets decided because if we have a benefits  and budgets team on the school side I'm assuming   they do on the city side. So then who are we going  to get into who decides on all of this? So um we   do have a joint benefits executive committee  with executive leadership from both the city   and the schools. We do meet together monthly.  Um sometimes those meetings

047are canceled if   there's not updates to discuss. Um we do receive  quarterly projections or updated projections   from Mercer. So we are all meeting together.  We are all talking about this together. But   um in the year that we reduced rates for  2023, we no longer have the same, you know,   had the same rates as the city. They also, which  I can't speak to, but you know, their budgeting   is is different than the schools. And so we got  to a point where when we were meeting jointly   that we had to either focus on the schools or  focus on the city. So sometimes if it went if   we needed to discuss specific budgeting and rates  and and so forth associated just with the schools,   we would have separate meetings that were not  a benefit a full benefits executive

048committee   meeting. So that's what that's referring to.  Okay. And so you said that there was executives   is but I've heard from other board members that  elected school board members are not allowed to   be at those meetings. Are there elected city  officials in those meetings? There are not.   And is there a reason why? And I'm asking because  at the end of the day, it's our responsibility,   fudiciary responsibility to ensure that we are  being responsible. So I'm kind of confused as   to why we're barred from those meetings or not  allowed to be there, but it's our responsibility   and we have to take that like we're we took an  oath for that responsibility. And oh, Kim's going   to tell me the information they have is brought  back to you. There are many many committees that   we have that

049we meet that the schoolboard members  aren't on. So you've got your list of committees   under ballot 128 that you appoint to. These are  just committees working internal committees and   again we have so many committees within the school  division that we're meeting. The information we   have here comes back to you in generally budget  or other types of meetings on there. But that is   these are working sessions that we're dealing  with, right? But if we wanted to sit in and   understand like especially if we're doing RFPs and  we're trying to understand what's going on like I   I've I've been told that we have been told we are  not allowed to. Is that correct? Or can we sit in   and see what's happening since we're responsible?  That is the discussion your board ends up having   with your superintendent.

050The problem is once I  get to a three on it now becomes a means open to   the board. We have to have notices. We have to  have everything we have in a meeting. It's not   efficient for us to be running all of our meetings  where you show up, which is why we're always   careful why you're coming to it. You don't have  a voting right for it. Right. Other committees   that you have, you have made a decision. That's  file 128 where we need a leaison. The this is   simply this is one of those committees we've not  determined a leaison is necessary to it because   all the information eventually comes back to you.  Right. I understand that. I think just because   there's so much questions and confusion and lack  of understanding maybe we should consider having   somebody

051once a I don't know it's so if I may  just make want to be clear to everyone I've never   indicated that board members can't be a part of  that committee. I've never been asked in fact my   comment has been when this has come up is well  perhaps a board member and a council member do   need to be on me on yeah benefits committee. So,  I have never been asked nor would I ever deny a   board member or from wanting to be on a committee.  Very big. I did not. No, ma'am. You did not. I   just want to make sure the way people hear I know  and this is where I'm trying to clarify because   again I feel like that we are responsible and  again I have I mean and I don't know if this is  

052the right place to ask about RFPs or not is are  we going for like I have no idea what if we're   going to be talking about that but I think that  like there's question I have questions about the   RFP process. So should I ask it here or is there  another part where I would be more beneficial?   There is not a specific part of the presentation  that talks about the RFP. We do mention it I think   somewhere, but we did do an RFP for health last  year or this into into this year and reawwarded   to Cinta. And so let me ask then if I may um about  the RFP process, how often do we do it? Typically   there's uh it depends on the on the vendor. Um the  past ones have been seven years. Okay. And

053then   um do we have like quantitative and qualitative  criteria for our scorecard on who we choose?   Yes, we use Mercer Consulting to help us with  our Okay, so Mercer is the one that helps us   with that scorecard and I guess if so if you can't  answer Mercer can I can wait for these but like   I'm just kind of wondering about the focus um  the factors that led us to choose Centara like   if there were specific qualitative factors  that led us to choose them. Um because it's   Yeah, go ahead. I think I'm going to need to  step in here. Under the procurement process,   there are certain decisions you do and don't make  that are made available. Other decisions that may   not be available for you. Um, you can get the  procurement documents afterward to see what  

054they some of the information is not necessarily  available to the public. It's could proprietary.   So, that may be stuff we cannot provide you. Then  I'm gonna ask just one last question because I'll   ask for that documentation, but do do our audit  team or the city's audit team, does anybody do   any kind of like audit of the RFP process? Do we  know or if they have done it recently or anything   of the specific medical healthcare pause or the  overall I'm kind of looking at like um like if   they've done an RFP on how we do the I mean sorry  if they do an audit on how we do the RFP process   and including like any relationships that we've  had with our providers um and if there's any   results with regard to that if we've done audits 

055on that any officer would be responsible of making   sure you're doing it in compliance with the  Virginia Public Procurement Act. That's her   responsibility to make sure that's happened. Audit  is going to go in either on a performance audit or   when they have reason to believe that there's it's  a risk factor for us to check and that's not been   on our risk analysis. Okay. I I didn't know if  we like conducted any in that capacity where we   were looking at ensuring that the RP process is  going smoothly. if you know we making sure that   we're not awarding based on whatever. So we are  required to be in compliance with the Virginia   Public Procurement Act and that is what your  auditor is your your I'm sorry your procurement   officer is responsible. Okay. Thanks. Okay, Miss  Melnik and

056then we're going to move on with the   presentation. And just a heads up, I'm getting  some reports that some people that are viewing   may be having a little bit of trouble hearing you.  So if you could just maybe move the microphone up.   So, as a school board, let me just clarify. I've  been on the board for 11 years. We've never voted   on health care premiums before. This is something  that Consolidated Benefits takes care of,   and your job is to find the best product at the  best price for our employees as best you can. That   is correct. So, this is not a Virginia Beach City  Public Schools problem. I believe that health care   across our nation has increased exponentially.  And so I will leave my one comment here,   my personal comment that um my health insurance 

057increased unbelievably. I've made no I've not   hidden my health insurance costs, which from my  family was $2,400 a month. I am the employer.   I have no employee contribution. I have to pay  that. and my health insurance just increased to   $3333 [Music] a month. And so I feel that pain  too. Um and so I am correct though in assuming   that healthc care coverage across the board  like across this nation has increased. Okay, I'm   getting a head nod from Mercer. So, I just need to  know that and um but mostly that we have never had   a vote on healthcare. Correct. That is correct.  Okay. Thank you, Miss Mel. If I if I can add um   to that because I think this is important as well.  So, my responsibility as superintendent is to not   overspend the budget. So,

058the board approved the  budget, the city approved our budget. um when we   consolidated benefits does their work, it's my  fiduciary responsibility as a superintendent of   Virginia Beach City Public Schools to ensure  that any decision I make does not overspend   the existing budget. And so and that's the  school board's number one responsibility   as well. And and so when consolidated benefits  provided that information on July the 25th and   I received the information on July 30th for  the first time, we took immediate action. So Thank you. Go. There we are. I was trying to get to the  right slide. Um, we did put together a   frequently asked questions document that was  created and is available on the consolidated   benefits office website in the open enrollment  section on the uh www.benefitsthebe.com. on the screen you can see where  the

059long um actual URL is listed,   but it can be navigated to by getting to the  open enrollment site. Open enrollment is Monday,   September 29th through Monday, October 13th  for most of our employees and retirees. Um,   and employees and retirees with  additional questions may contact the   consolidated benefits office by emailing benefits  vbschools.com or contacting us at 757-2631060. All right. We will be addressing questions uh  additional questions raised by the school board   as we continue with the presentation. A request  was made to provide additional premium options   and to understand how those scenarios would be  funded. Two additional options will be presented   that provide average increases of 75% and 50%.  The ability to provide additional funding,   as Dr. Robertson mentioned, will require shifting  budget priorities to reallocate funding from the   operating budget. With that, I'll turn it over 

060to Dave David Kio, senior principal with Mercer. Thank you very much, Linda. And  I'll I'll address uh if I may,   Miss Mrs. Milmick's um question about  the impact of rising health care costs   uh nationally and on a statewide basis. And that  is absolutely the phenomena that we are seeing.   uh when we look at our clients across the uh  country and across the Commonwealth of Virginia,   we're seeing uh for 2026 the impact to budget  rates for the employer uh self-funded employer   sponsored uh segment uh increasing 3 to 5% above  what they traditionally have. And the range on   those is anywhere from uh you know uh the the  average was 10.9 the range is 8 to to 20 plus.   Uh so it this is this is not unique to Virginia  Beach uh city public schools for for

061certain. All right. So as Linda mentioned uh we were  asked to provide some details around a couple   of different funding scenarios and this first one  here so the original uh released uh contribution   scenarios called for a 97% increase to employee  contributions. This first alternative that I'll   talk about here uh calls for a 75% increase to  employee contributions. Um and so I'll give you   just a couple of stats and tell you where we'll  focus on this because there's a lot of numbers   on this page, but uh 73% of your active employees  are enrolled in the point of service plan. Uh and   uh just shy of 60% are in single coverage. So with  that context I'll ask you to focus on the very   first row the employee only under the point of  service program and you'll see

062there uh the black   segment is the uh original 2025 contribution is in  uh is in blue under this new scenario and you'll   see the increase dollar amount and percentage  basis. So this scenario calls for an increase of   $496.79 per year. When we compare that to the  2022 contributions that the original scenario   that was released matched, you'll see that it's  uh these this scenario is about $174 below the   22 contribution requirements. Uh and that's about  14%. So this um so and for that particular tier of   coverage, this scenario would uh call for Virginia  Beach City Public Schools to fund approximately   90% of that cost. So when you look at the total  cost with HSA in the very first column in the   black and then you take the contribution the  employee contribution percentage or dollar at uh

0631,9175 um it is uh it's about approximately  10%. And that is up from 88% that the   uh employer would fund under the originally  released uh scenario. So, the figures for the   uh the family coverage, you'll see there  uh in that row and the point of service   on the top. U the total cost with HSA 30  uh just shy of $36,000 per year. Uh this   uh this scenario would be would  call for them to contribute $6,866. Uh and that's an increase from 2025 of 3,124. but  it would remain still uh about a,000 about $1,100   below the 2022 rates. Uh again, about 14% lower.  Um so unless I'm asked, I'll refrain from going   into the detail for for each and every tier, but  I hope that gives you the the perspective there.   So recall in aggregate, Linda

064talked about the  employer contribution towards the rates being   at 90.6 77%. So if you think about it on a per  tier basis, those two that I referenced were   pretty close. Um actually I will talk about one  one more under the CDHP plan. That's the lowest   cost option uh that provides the most affordable  plan. U and so with that particular option the   total cost with HSA for the single is 9,848. Under  this scenario um the contribution would be 8667   per year and that is less than 1%. So in in that  scenario for that type of coverage and that tier   of coverage the employer responsibility would be  in excess of 99%. And so when we roll that all   up that in aggregate uh comprises the 90.77%  that we referenced. Can I just ask you really   quick before

065you move on? Um, what is the total  dollar cost to us of that change? Because I know   that we're talking about individual situations  here, but when we're combining it all together,   what's the total cost to make it to this  75% um in aggregate for the employer?   um in the increase from where it's from what  was originally released is uh is just a little   over $2 million. And there's a aggregate slide  that's coming up here that'll that'll illustrate   that more clearly, but it's uh but it's a little  over $2 million. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Yes. I'm sorry. So everything in the black is  what was what the employees already have been   given and the blue I'm a little bit confused  as to what the employee would be asked to   spend because of what is

066up here. Yeah. So I'm  just asking like this is what we were asking   that what we're currently asking them to spend  for 2025 26. But if we spend the $2 million,   it would take the employee contribution from  what to what? Cuz I this is confusing to me, this   chart. It would I won't try to do that math in  my head, but it'll take the 2025 contribution and   uh well, yeah, there it is. 55 59496 is 2025. the  first row and column in the blue under the Okay,   so that's what we're asking them to spend or  that's what they would be that's what they're   currently paying per year in 2025 and that  would under this scenario increase to,9175 increase you mean so the the black represents the scenario that is  being proposed the alternative scenario that's  

067being illustrated 2025 is shown for reference.  And then if you look at the increase column,   the second column under the lighter blue shade,  it increases by 49679. So it's going from 594   to 1,91. And that increase represents a $496  increase. Okay. Totally lost because I'm just   asking what are we asking the our employees on  employee only? What would they be paying without   our $2 million contribution? And then what  would it change to is what I'm asking. Does   this make Am I making sense? No. Because I'm  just trying to figure out under the originally   proposed. Yeah. Yes. That's what I'm trying to  figure out because this is a lot of numbers and   they're not making sense to me that like this  is what the employee would be paying without   our 2 million. With our 2 million,

068here's  what they would be paying. That's all I want   to know. Yeah. All right. So, let me I'm going  to be a little little lower level, I hope. So,   Thanks. So with the proposed 2026 rates, we went  back to the 2022. So right now the proposed rates   for 1126 for an employee only would be $1,265.88.  Is that on this chart? It is. It's the first dart   only. Okay. Got it. Yes. Thank you. So that was  what they paid in 2022 and then we're going back   to that rate is what the proposed is. But with  the 2 million they it would go down to 594.96. No,   the 594.96 is goes back to when we had  all those huge rate reductions when we   were able to infuse money and our trends  were really low. Okay. So the

0692 million   would take us from the 1,265.88 to $1,91.75  for an employee only. Thank you. That's the   comparison I couldn't Thanks. That's all  I needed. Thank you. Thank you, Crystal. The next exhibit is uh the figures for  the alternative scenario, the 75% scenario   for the retirees. So, you'll see there the  contribution relative to the 2025 contribution   uh is in that first row in the in the uh dark  shaded green. The increase is,51 for the year. And when that's compared to uh the 2022  contribution, it is still about $270 lower.   And so that was the target as well. So that's  that's the increment from the original proposal. Are there any tiers or any rate  questions specific to the retirees? If not, I can move over to the second alternative,  which is alternative uh at a 50%

070increase. So,   this would require uh a little bit uh little  bit greater investment. The 75% scenario called   for a little over 2 million. Uh this one will  be u a little over four million. And again,   there's a chart that will summarize  that coming up here shortly. Um, all right. So, looking at the same uh  schools POSOS employee only row, the top   row, uh you can see the that investment  that I described there would require an   increase from 2025 of $330 per year. And  uh that increased investment would make it   uh a little bit further lower  than the 2022 rates by about $340. Any questions about the individual tiers  for this scenario? I would actually if we   can because we have probably 20 more slides  to get through if we could just try to hold   as

071many questions as possible. Um and I I  know there's a lot of details in here but   um I think we're almost to the end  of the the charts and then is the   schoolboard questions on 21 that continue on.  Are those related to your presentation as well?   um they are and there are some utilization  based charts that we talked about looking at the   historical trends that follow those questions.  So I'm happy to move ahead to those. Yeah,   I mean if it's okay I would like to um kind of get  through the presentation part that way everybody   has an opportunity to chime in. Um absolutely  it's okay with everybody. Thank you. Okay. All right. So that's the same scenario for  the retirees there. um the you I think the   concepts are are uh have been discussed so

072that  you can look at those um at your at your leisure.   So this this is uh the chart that summarizes  the aggregate financial impact. So we work to   update the projections on an annual basis. the  2025 projection. The deeper we get into 2025,   we will update that as data becomes available  as to the plan's performance. So that's in the   first column there. So the gross cost for the  plan year, this is plan year is the same as the   calendar year of 2025. Gross costs are projected  to be 123.3 million. Employee contributions that   we talked about uh some to 9.4 million. for a net  cost that has to be funded by Virginia Beach City   Public Schools through either budgeted amounts  or um accessing the health fund equals 113.9. The budgeted funding amount is 100.3 uh  and

073that requires 13.6 million draw down   from the health fund surplus. So recall that  that health fund surplus in years where the   funding rates exceeded the actual cost,  that amount accumulated to the funding to   the health fund account, that's what's being  relied upon here. So that health fund balance,   I skipped over that row intentionally. Uh  the balance as of May is 19.1 million. 2025   uh is going to use up 13.6 million of that. Um  some of that has already been booked as this   year's worn on. So the draw down remaining to  year end is is is approximately 8 million. So   the estimate of the balance of the health  fund is 11.2 million at the end of 2025. And I'll stay in that column for just a minute.  We may talk about the the two months reserve

074uh   in more detail. Um but that projected two months  reserve that is um the recommended funding to have   on hand that represents about 212 months of spend  to cover the costs in a given plan year of claims   expenses that have been incurred but not yet  paid and build to the city. So there is a lag   in the time it takes from healthc care providers  to um record and send the bill to Cantara and for   them to to review it and and pay it. So uh so  there's uh in general healthc care financing   u recommends keeping a reserve of that amount.  So right there in 2025 you can see that the   projected healthcare fund balance is uh is not  going to cover that amount that desired amount.   that doesn't have immediate repercussions, but  it's a target

075goal to have that 212ths of the   gross cost funded, the two months uh of reserve.  So, if we move to the next column, the the first   column was the initially released uh employee  contribution scenario. So, you'll see the the   uh we're moving into 2026 and it's about a 10%  increase projected in gross costs. So the total   plan costs adjusted for any changes in enrollment  is expected to increase from 123.3 to 135.6.   That's about 10%. The employee contributions under  this initially proposed scenario will contribute   18.4 million and that leaves 117.2 2 million to  be funded by the city of Virginia Beach's public   schools either through uh specific budgeting or  reliance upon the healthcare fund. And so that uh   you'll see so we talked about the healthcare fund  balance being 11.2 million at the end of 25.

076So   that's the starting point for 2026 11.2 million.  under that scenario, uh, this fund, the health   fund impact is is estimated to be 11.4 million.  So, it's a couple couple hundred thousand off, but   but that was intentional when when looking at the  rate setting process. Uh, as Dr. Robertson said,   the intention was um to to preserve, not go in the  red. And in fact, that number cannot go negative.   It has to be paid in some form or fashion. Um,  and so that was the scenario that was generated.   Um so you'll see the projected health fund balance  at the end of 2026 is a negative. 02 million. Um   not not perfectly zero uh but but essentially um  use the healthcare fund is or the health fund is   um is is is gone. And so the the

077two months  targeted reserve um is is basically 100% unfunded. Um and so that all of that went into the  rationale to arrive uh where where the the   initial uh rates were set. So we talked about  some alternative if some additional funding   uh is infused into the plan. We talked about  uh the 75%. So that's that next column over and   uh you know I'd mentioned it was a little bit over  $2 million in aggregate. Uh you can see that by   um if you go to the bottom the projected health  fund balance at year end uh instead of being   negative -2 it go it grows to negative -2.5.  So that 2.3 million is not the source of that   funding is not reflected here. It's just shown  as a negative number until there's a source if   if and

078when there is a source of that funding  identified. the 50% option that we talked about   um increases again an additional uh um  6.6 million or excuse me 4.3 million   uh from the originally released scenario  and that would result in a negative 4.8   8 again a number that cannot be negative if those  costs materialize and these are all projections   and we'll talk about some of the details  and methodologies of how we arrive at these   projections um but but but that's the result.  Um any questions about those aggregate figures um Miss Rogers, do you have any questions about  the aggregate figures? No, I mean I basically   we're in the red in our healthcare fund no matter  what. Even if we choose to not change anything,   we're in the red. I I think my question  more or less

079and I don't think that Well,   maybe you can answer it. Are we do we have  the most cost-effective plan? Is this do we   have that? Like is this the most coste effective  plan that we can get at the moment? So, we haven't   talked about uh changes in plan and there's  multiple dynamics that that might influence   the definition of the most cost effective, but  a lot of it is plan design. And Linda talked   about the plans that you all offer are uh are very  rich, very competitive programs in the sense that   um when services are rendered, the patient pays  for 11% of the cost of the care that they receive   and the plan pays for 89%. Right? But she we also  talked about the high deductible and I know that   it was encouraged for um employees

080to move to the  high deductible plan. But when you are a single   employee and your high deductible is $2,000 and  you are you know not a high paid employee that   becomes an impossible situation where we then  have our employees not going to the doctor. So   then in the end of the day, we are encouraging our  employees to stay away from the doctor until it's   an emergency and then we are actually increasing  our claims. So I don't want to do that. I think   that that's foolish. Um and so this is where  I I mean I'm trying to figure it out. So like   that's what I'm asking is do we have the most  cost-effective plans for our employees? because   right here kind of doesn't seem like we know, but  I'm just asking. Yes. Um, so so I'll

081touch on the   the funding element of this. So from a funding  standpoint, self-insured while it requires   uh uh sophisticated budgeting exercises like this  and projection exercises, that is in the long run   the cheapest funding because you're not paying  the risk premium that's charged by the insurance   uh insurance carrier. So that saves somewhere, you  know, five to probably five five to 8% uh over the   long run. Now, you're at risk for fluctuations  yeartoear. Um so from that standpoint,   um you're in the most cost-effective funding,  right? Being self-insured, but but the plans   that we're offering is that like Yeah. Sorry.  And and not to be labor, I I think if we can   try to continue to move forward and make sure that  everybody on the board has the chance to come in   Is there any questions about

082this one and  then this will be our last until the end   of the presentation and and you know I just want  to make sure everyone's included. Um so this one   and I'm just going to isolate that is is key but  if you can make that your last question for this   being well I I think if I if I may uh I will move  forward to some of the cost drivers and the trends   to help you all understand. And so when you think  about what's happening in your plan, that's the   overarching question is what is happening to make  our costs as high as they are. And we've got some   slides in here. So um if if it's okay with you,  I'll I'll move forward past the the questions. Okay. So I will talk a little bit

083about general  market trend and we'll get specifically into   the drivers or the influencers of your  plan. Um so the the uh the observation we   talked about uh increases for 2026 for all  employers are are averaging in the in the   uh you know three to three to 5% higher than  what they have historically been. uh and the   inflators that you see here on the left side. Um  there's there's unit cost challenges contracting   with providers for all payers. Uh Cantara included  are uh there's upward pressure on those unit costs   and and a lot of that is post-pandemic related  uh shortages and clinicians. Uh there's some   consolidation going on. Uh so there's a lot of  dynamics there that are that's making that harder.   um higher demand and utilization of services and  the prevalence of chronic conditions. Um we'll

084see   that in your data uh a little bit um in particular  high-cost claimments. Um the prescription drug   trend so RX is prescription drug trend uh is  driven by a lot of factors. Uh specialty drugs   u high-cost specialty drugs GLP1s uh these are  extremely effective life-changing medications.   uh they they are wonderful uh sources for for  treating for treating uh many many conditions   but they come with a very high cost uh and the  demand for that we've seen about a 17% increase   in your experience in specialty medications  and and so when I say specialty medications   um you know I'll give you some examples and  a lot of these you you may well have heard on   uh commercials uh Humumera uh the average  monthly cost average per prescription cost   of Humumera is $7,000 um Stellara ARA is  $26,000.

085Uh Dupixent $4,000. Um again,   life-changing medications, but they come  with a with a a very very high cost. So,   those are some of the sort of macro factors.  Um there are a few deflators on the uh on the   right hand side there. Uh the shift to to lower  cost settings and in particular virtual care.   um you all your population uh does take advantage  of virtual care and that's a that's a that's a   cost-saving uh scenario or or setting I should say  u availability of bio similars is going to bring   down the cost of some specialty medicifications  um and then a couple specific to you all you   all have a very very high generic dispensing  rate so that's helping you out uh and you've   got u very very solid rates of preventive care  utilization so that

086uh that's a that's a positive All right. So, this is just a highle summary of  the health plan spend and this is 2024 spend.   Uh you'll see it was overund 111,000 uh which was  up about 14%. And we've got some other uh another   exhibit that'll show historically. But um one of  the I'll make one quick comment about one of the   questions we we skipped over in terms of the  methodology for the projection. So what we do   is is actuarily sound um approach to projecting  forward and it's based on the actual experience   that is reported uh for your population. And  what we do is we look at 24 months. We put   uh about twothirds waiting on the most recent 12  and about a third waiting on the prior 12. And the   hope is that that's going

087to pre provide some  smoothing uh over time. If there's one one bad   year or one really good year, there won't be an  overreaction. Um and and what we'll see in your   trend is it's really been a multi-year in the most  recent years uh really since 2022. So the timing   is unfortunate because it coincided with the  reduction in rates in 2023. Um uh I'll I'll show   share uh some more on high cost claimments here in  just a minute. So I'll skip that bullet there. Um   but the spend on a per member basis so that's the  purest understanding of the of the cost change in   a population is when you isolate on a per member  basis uh increased about 13%. Uh which is about   11% above benchmark. Um the diagnostic categories  in 2024 that were driving this

088you'll see there   uh cancer is number one and that increased  12%. And that's a phenomenon too that is   not unique to you all. it's it's number one or  two. Uh the the your top three are everybody's   top three. Maybe the order fluctuates. Um but  they are in everybody's top three. Um and so   circulatory increase 4%, muscularkeeletal 8% uh  in your in your population. Um so those are the   those are the drivers. Um and I'll I'll I'll  share with you what the the biggest indicator of the performance of the health plan uh from a  budget standpoint is the presence of high-cost   claimants. And so we'll define that for purposes  of this exhibit as individuals who have uh claims   over $100,000. Um and so I you know I I first want  to want to say we talked

089about these lifesaving   drugs. They're they're they're life-changing and  life-saving uh medications. Um individuals that   have these high-cost claims, you know, often these  are not um not something that's preventable. They   they just happen. The actuarial tables tell us  these high-cost claimments are going to happen.   We don't typically see the year-to-year increase  in the in the number of claimments that we've seen   with with you all. This is not uh this is not uh  ab abnormal uh to have high cost claimments to   this uh to this degree just not every year. That's  what's abnormal. Um and so there's a lot of detail   in the chart there that shows you the history  and and I'll steer you to the bar graph to the   right that is uh the number of claimants over  $100,000. And that trend line has been

090going up   uh very very steadily with uh you know with with  one anomaly there in 2020 which um I think has   had a compounding effect uh post pandemic where  folks deferred care or didn't access care they   might otherwise have gotten um is is in a lot  of respects uh coming back to to impact claims   um in in the more near term 23 and 24. Um so  the prevalence of high-cost claimments and the   intensity and by intensity I mean the the amount  paid per high-cost claimment. Uh both of those are   going up in the teens. Um now I will make one  one comment. The uh we do have reinsurance in   place and that covers the cost. Uh so the school  the schools pay for individual claimants in a   given year their claims up to $600,000. Beyond 

091$600,000 there's a stop-loss reinsurer to whom   we pay a premium and they absorb the risk of any  and all claims uh above that above that threshold.   Um so that provides an important an important  layer of layer of pro of protection. And so when   we look about look at the history uh the recent  history from January 2022 through May of 2025   um we see that the the trend is it's a composite  8.5%. And historically it's been five to six   uh and it's been 8.5. So that sustained delta  between um you know what what you were seeing   and and what was used for for predictions um  you know has has has caused the impact of the   health fund. Now I will say the health fund has  operated as as it as it was intended which is   to

092help subsidize in years where there is uh  you know there's really high costs. Uh so it   has it has served its purpose. Um unfortunately  the the three years in a row here of 8.5% trend   that's been above average um have depleted that  uh and the fact that the contributions employee   contributions were held flat and in fact decreased  in 2023. So there was no additional money coming   in from employees trend was going up 8.5  and then the budgeted amount was going up   um around 3%. uh that creates the impact to the  health fund that's made the uh significant draw   down uh and get the balance where it is. So um  that's the end of of my material. I'm happy to   answer any questions if there are any.  Otherwise, I'll turn it back to Linda. Miss Melnik,

093it's really not a big deal,  but just out of curiosity,   the number five top diagnostic categories. Number five is injury poisoning. I just was  curious what the poisoning like what's an   example of poisoning since it's in the top  five. Are you talking about children? Are   you talking about Yeah. So, so that is an  anomaly that that would make your top five.   um because that means there was multiple  scenarios of of accidental injury or   poisoning. But that um I don't I  don't recall the specifics of it,   but it could be anything from a child getting into  a you know a substance that was that was toxic or   um or or or even an adult for that matter.  Okay. But an anomaly nonetheless. That's right. I'm not sure if mine's a question for you  or if it's

094a question for um Miss Mackkins,   but I think that the slide that we had where  it shows the draw down um and that is slide 18. Um, I think this is really important and I want  to bring this up because it shows that our health   fund balance is going to be in the negative  regardless of the proposed increase this year.   um which concerns me a lot and I don't  know if you're going to cover the questions   um that the board members had asked in the slides  so you all but um I just wanted to draw extra   attention to this slide because it's showing that  um we're going to be in the negative with that   um fund balance and this isn't me really  pointing any fingers but um at the time   and when we decreased it

095and we had a um healthy  fund balance. I feel like um the decision may have   been a bit risky. I wasn't here on the board. Um  but I I don't think that the board actually made   the decision, but I do think that um based  on what we're looking at now, in hindsight,   the risk was great. Um and Miss Melnik, are  you still in mine or Okay. All right. Go ahead. So, we are going to finish through the  presentation with schoolboard questions. Um,   in response to a question raised by the  school board for a timeline for planning   and decision-making, this information um which  is going to be displayed on two slides so you can   see it um provides a timeline of re research,  decision making and actions required for the   health plan changes. This slide takes

096you from  the planning stages through a budget development. And this is a continuation of the timeline  and takes you through the review of updated   financial projections with  first quarter claims data,   finalizing plan design and development of  rates, communication for open enrollment,   and ultimately to the plan effective  date, which is in January each year. A question was raised by the school board to  explain the process by which healthcare data   and rate changes are shared with division  leadership and staff. The schools have a   joint benefits executive committee with the city  comprised of executive leadership with monthly   scheduled meetings. Updated financial projections  are provided quarterly by our health and actuarial   consultants at the benefits executive committee  meetings and as requested if the committee asked   Mercer for additional information. Committee  members are expected to share information with   senior leadership.

097Communications to staff  with rate and plan changes have historically   been provided in the September time frame prior  to open enrollment. I think it's important also   to note on that slide, superintendent is  not on the benefits executive committee. A question was raised by the school board to  ask if COVID funds ESSER, ARP, etc. were used   directly or indirectly to offset the help fund  balance. No pandemic funds were used to offset   the help fund balance. All grant applications  were developed following grant guidelines and   were approved by the Virginia Department of  Education. VBCPS has a strong system of internal   controls in place to make sure grant money is  only spent on approved and allowable expenses.   BDOA also reviews every grant expense during  the reimbursement process to confirm cost   uh um are allowable and included  in the approved application.

098Questions were raised by the school board asking  for the projected dollar amount of the stated   premiums increase that would go into the health  fund balance and ask for further clarification   of the health fund being depleted by the end of  2026. The additional premiums will not increase   the overall health fund balance and will instead  be used to help keep weekly um to pay weekly   claims. As David had explained, even with this  increase, the health fund is projected to have   a 200,000 deficit by December 31st, 2026. By  June 30, 2026, the end of the fiscal year,   the fund is projected to have a 9.7 million  surplus. However, best practice is to maintain   two months of total health care costs in reserves.  As David had mentioned, for fiscal year 2026,   the projected amount that should be maintained in 

099reserve is 21.5 million. I think I didn't go to   the next slide. Oh, yeah, I did. Um, sorry about  that. So, for fiscal year 2026, the projected   amount that should be maintained in reserves is  21.5 million. And for the full 2026 calendar year,   the projected amount that should be maintained is  22.6 million. Restated, we should maintain 22.6   million in reserves for calendar year 2026, while  our ongoing employer and employee premiums pay for   normal expenses. Reserves should be reserved for  larger than expected increases in claims and for   large payments as needed for high school highcost  claimants. I think I went backwards a minute ago.   Let's make sure we're on the right question. Sorry about that. The school board  requested the current health fund   balance and project and the projected two  months worth of claims. The health

100fund   balance at the end of fiscal year  on June 30th, 2025 was 16,855,45. The projected cost of two months of health  care costs for fiscal year 2026 is projected   at 21.5 million and for 2026 plan year  which is our calendar year is projected   at 22.6 million. And these figures are  illustrated in the slides that follow. As mentioned on the previous slide,   the help fund balance for the schools at  the end of the fiscal year on June 30th,   2025 was 16,855,45 shown at the bottom of the  fiscal year 2025 column there on the left. This is a look at the fiscal year  financial projections for the plan   and is provided here to show that  the amount of desired two-month   reserves for the fiscal year is  21.5 million on the bottom right. This provides the calendar year

101fiscal year  projections for the plan and is provided here   to show that the amount of desired two-month  reserves for the calendar year is 22.6 million. Questions were raised by the school board  to determine what reports and data are   currently accessible to the school board  and recommendations on how reporting can be   enhanced to ensure the B board has timely,  transparent, and actionable information.   reports are available upon request for Mercer's  quarterly financial projections, Centara's   quarterly and annual re review presentations.  Cinta Quality Care Network's annual performance   review. And just an explanation on that, the Centa  Quality Care Network, otherwise known as Sequin,   is a clinically integrated network of  providers that utilize their data and   evidence-based guidelines to drive quality,  highquality, cost effective care decisions. information can be shared with the school board  more frequently with scheduling determined and  

102aligned with updates from thirdparty consultants.  A question was raised by the school board asking   for an explanation of how healthcare costs are  incorporated into the division's annual budget   planning and forecasting. The office of budget  development imports position information for   all full-time positions, including vacancies  each November. This data includes prior year's   enrollment benefit selections and does not  reflect open enrollment changes that began   January 1. Mercer shares updated trend information  during their quarterly presentations and based   upon their findings, we may request additional  modeling or scenarios to better understand the   overall fiscal impact. The budget is then adjusted  as needed based on available funding and other   identified priorities before the annual  operating budget is formally adopted. A schoolboard question asked about the impact of  health care expenditures on staffing decisions,   employee benefits, and overall financial  sustainability. Employee benefits

103are the   division's second largest expense after  salaries and wages. As benefit costs rise,   they impact the ability to develop a compensation  package that includes larger pay increases.   Increasing health care costs can make it  more difficult to offer competitive benefits,   making it more challenging to attract and retain  retain top talent. Greater costs may be passed on   to the employee through increased premiums and  deductibles that can lead to dissatisfaction   and higher turnover. It is difficult to  measure the direct impact of health care   cost on overall financial stability. With  greater than 85% of our operating budget   in the area of personnel cost, any increase  to healthcare premiums will have an impact. A question was raised by the school board ask  for asking for potential strategies to mitigate   cost growth while maintaining competitive  benefits for employees. The school division  

104has embraced best practices for healthcare cost  containment strategies that include multiple plan   options within and out of network and out of area  coverage, HSA eligible highdeductible health plan,   employer contributions towards a health savings  account, valuebased benefit arrangement with   providers engaged in quality care services  through a clinically integrated network,   lower co-pays and co- insurance for services at  providers participating in the valuebased care.   Lower pharmacy co-pays and co- insurance for  prescriptions filled at preferredies. Lower   cost tele medicine options for acute care and  behavioral health services. Price transparency   tools for medical services and pharmacy. Pharmacy  benefit formulary with pre-authorizations, step   theory therapy and closed formulary for high-cost  medications with lowerc cost alternative drugs   with the same efficacy. an annual claims audit and  a comprehensive wellness program. Additional cost   containment strategies that the school division  could further develop include

105greater education of   the value of the consumer-driven health plan and  health savings account. The CDHP plan encourages   greater accountability when obtaining  services and provides a tax-free HSA. Oh, think I'm here. Um, so the CDHP plan encourages  greater accountability when obtaining services   and provides a tax-free HSA financial  account that never forfeits and remains   with the employee postemployment. Could also  consider changing our teleaalth coverage to   allow services to be paid by the plan before  having to meet the deductible for the CDHP plan,   which is newly released legislation. can engage  in greater healthcare data analytics to understand   cost drivers and develop targeted communications  for greater awareness and resources for members   and explore additional options with thirdparty  admin or thirdparty administrator or wellness   vendor and other contracted providers. We're  happy to answer any questions at this time. Mr. Ken,

106this is a question I have for David.  David, if I was following you correctly,   and that's a huge if, but  if I was, uh, on slides 16 and I believe 14, yes, there's an indication on  14 that these would be the rates if there was a   75% increase in the employees premium. and on 16  it's a 50% increase. I believe you made reference   to the dollar result from those increases. And  if I took notes correctly, the 75% increase   is representative of approximately a $4 million  requirement in order to satisfy. And the 50% was   at 2 million. But that's a huge if. So I'm already  getting the nod from my my my coach here that I've   got him backwards. You are very close. So you had  them reversed. So the 75% increase asks employees   to pay

107more. So that means the investment required  by you all uh is a little bit lower and that's   the one that's uh 2.3 million and the the 50%  contribution is a lower contribution. So you all   invest more and that was the 4.3 million. Okay. So  those are the numbers 2 million and four 2.3 and   4.3. That's right. That's what we could expect if  we were to embrace those. That's right. Uh second   question has to do with the information found on  the slides that uh Linda was just going through and that is on slide 38. and I'm trying to follow the bouncing ball. And  on page 38, there is a spreadsheet fiscal year   2025 projected and 2026 projected with categories  down the left hand side with references that it   is as a result of following different categories. 

108For example, the projected health fund balance at   year end shows for fiscal year 2025 a projection  of 18.1 million. But I'm arriving at that number   according to the guide by adding column E and  column H. And if I'm following that correctly,   column E says 95.5 million and H is a  negative 1 million. And my simple math   says take a million away from 95 a.5 million  and you should have 94 a.5 million. But I get   to 18.1 million and my brain explodes. And  so I don't have an answer and hoping you do. It would help Regina if you  could pull that slide up. 38. So that's Yeah. Okay. Um Okay. So um are we  able to get that slide up there? Yes. So for   2025 projected, recall that we will initially  undertake that activity in 2024

109to project for   2025. Now that we are further along in 2025,  we will update the projection and we will   have already taken what was needed year-to-  date from the health fund balance. Uh and so   that 1 million is the draw down remaining to to  the year end. And so for the rest of the year,   the health fund the incremental draw down from  the health fund is a million dollars. So when   we take and we so we've updated the health fund  balance as of May at 19.1 the figure the 12.1   is what we expected to have been drawn  down for the entirety of 2025 1 million   of which is left to be drawn down. So the 19.1  is where we are. That's reflective of the fact   that we have already drawn that fund down by  some

110amount. Um there's 1 million left to be   drawn down based on the projection. Uh and  that leaves it with 18.1 million estimated   at the end of 2025 fiscal year. But I'm seeing  that the projected health fund balance at year   end is arrived at the addition of E and H.  Um at least that's how I'm interpreting it. Yeah. And yeah, I apologize. That  that should be um that should be F. Yeah. Okay. It's it Yeah, it I apologize. That's  a typo on that methodology. I apologize for the   comm for the uh that makes sense. Yes. Yes.  Um Yes. Thank you. I apologize. Thank you. Vice Chair Williams, then Miss Rogers. Thank  you. Um I I just want to kind of piggy back   on something that Miss Melnik had said a while  a while back on on

111slide nine, the historical   employee rates. So in 2018, our employees had a  certain rate and then the next year those rates   were raised by three or four dollars. And then in  2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022, the rates stayed the   same, zero increases. Okay, so that's basically  five years. And then we use the balance of the   health fund, which in a very appropriate way to  give relief for 23, 24, and 25. And in some cases   it was extreme a lot of relief there. Um so now  our 26 rates are actually I think Miss Mel said   going back to the 22 rate but they're actually  going back all the way back to basically the   2018 2019 rate. Okay. Okay. 19. Okay. Thank you.  So, I just think that's very important to look at   um with our city

112folks because I think a couple  my colleagues were on the board when we when we   um decided to to give this to our employees from  the from the health fund. And I and I know that   we kind of got some some indication that that the  city may not have been completely thrilled with   that because the city employees to my recollection  they did not enjoy such a decrease. Is that a   correct statement? Do you know? That is correct.  They have not raised rates since 2019 and their   2026 rates will be the same and we will be back  to the same level on an annual basis as the city.   Okay. So, so the firefighters and the  policemen, the city employees paid the   same thing. They didn't experience the three years  of yellow. Correct. And then now we're

113all kind of   equal paying the same thing. Yes. And just for  clarification, when people look at the rates,   the city currently has 26 pay and the schools have  20. So if they're just looking at the premiums,   they may think they're different, but the annual  cost is the same because of the Yeah. pay. Okay.   Okay. Okay. I just wanted to kind of clarify that  because I think that's important information for   us to remember. Thank you so much, Miss Rogers and  Miss Miller. Okay. Um, first I just wanted to make   a quick statement on slide 34. This question was  asked because I know that it has been put out into   the public that we um that the school board  used some sort of grant funding to pay down   um these premiums. And I just want to reiterate 

114that that is not the case that these funds were   taken from our health fund balance. And so that  was allowable and that we were that was a choice.   Obviously, I wasn't on the board when the choice  was made, but that this was not a a a one-time   grant use funding. That is correct. Deal. So, I  just want to reiterate that because I I have even   read that on social media and it's just not  the case. Um, I think my next two questions,   I'm not exactly sure if they're going to be  for you or for Dr. Robertson. So, on slide 40,   we discussed um the possibility of um how we can  get reporting. Are we going to be possibly having   maybe um by yearly or even quarterly information  because it's given to y'all quarterly or is  

115that has that always been done? Like it's  going to happen now. Okay, thanks for that.   And then the other question I have and I don't  know who can answer this but it's my understanding   from our discussion on slide 41 that we okay so we  have positions that would be fully burdened. So we   have a reading instructor and we have set aside  their salary and their fully burdened health care   and then if that position is not filled then all  of that goes to reversion. But I guess my question   is is that why would the health care per portion  not go back to the health care you am I making   sense? So um if an employee has not been hired  then we don't account for their health insurance.   We have roughly 75% of our employees choose our 

116health care options. 25% of our employees do   not. So you don't count into the healthc care  calculation unless you during open enrollment   declare you're picking one of our plans. Okay. Got  it. So then so when we do reversion it does not   include health care costs. It just includes salary  costs. Right. Well and let me explain what happens   kind of. So yes, when we have when that employer  contribution, which actually would go into the   health fund balance, when we do the budget and  balance it, that's our operating budget. So I'm   budgeting the employer contribution for positions  that we bring in to start with the budget based on   what positions we're going to fund, our staffing  standards, all of that. If we don't hire that   position, then yes, that's part of our employer  contribution that does not

117go into the health fund   because there's no employee to no employee for us  to make an employer contribution on. And so that   money does fall out into reversion. Does that is  it? No, I I understand. I just I guess I I don't   understand like why like I mean I do like I hear  what you're saying. I I would like to not have   to put so much in reversion is what I'm getting  at. So, but and I think that's a balance and I   understand your your point and and again when  we bring positions in it's a to do the budget   the timing we have to bring them in in November  that'll change the day after we and I'm being a   little bit but I mean it can change the next day  right and so we have

118to start with a baseline and   I have to prepare for those positions to be hired  because we've agreed as we've approved the budget   that those are the positions if we in a perfect  world, we needed those things, right? And I'm   totally fine with that. I'm just saying that  money that we're budgeting is for our health   care. And so I'm like, so why are we having to  put it in reversion? Why can't we put it towards   health care? Does that you see what I'm saying?  Like Yeah. No, I do. And so I will say this. So   um when we budget sometimes in the budget system  um if we we are working really diligently to make   sure that it is in the health fund account and  health fund account I mean like a general ledger   accounting system.

119So what happens where maybe  before it was chunked and so historically and   I mean way back when in the day when we had extra  money remaining we did what was called a sweep and   some people may remember that from many years ago.  I'm looking at you so city can and so then they   changed that so we couldn't sweep from the bottom  line so that stopped and this has been 10 years   ago. Okay. So now we've worked really diligently  this year depending on what happens that those   health general ledger accounts for our employer  contribution based on those positions have those   funds in there. If those positions don't get  filled and that money remains in there, we   should be able to sweep what's remaining in those  health accounts for the employer contribution into   the health fund. That's

120that's that's what I was  getting at. So we can do that. We can if the money   is remaining. So at the end of 25 that was not the  case. And so we worked really hard with Mercer,   with Linda, with our budget um system vendor to  make sure that those employer contribution rates   are where they need to be in that budget system.  So at the end of the fiscal year when we look at   those those specific accounts, we can say, "Look,  there's money left in there. It wasn't used to do   an employer contribution for these vacancies will  sweep back into the health fund. So it won't be   lost to reversion. Correct. Thank you. Okay,  that was my question. Sorry I took a minute,   Miss Melnik. No, and that's okay. And the piece  that other people may

121not have caught was when   um the the CFO said we may be able to I saw your  finger crossed there. And so that was that was an   important nuance in your statement. So I mean some  you know and I say that because the methodology is   there but again a lot depends on what I mean we  you know thanks thanks to HR and the wonderful   team that um Dr. Tropman has you know they've  been able to fund vacancies pretty well for us   and so where back in the day we had a lot more  we probably don't see that like we used to. So   it's a balance. It is a balance. So my question,  not to belabor slide nine, but can we just go back   there one more time because what I wanted to talk  about because

122you mentioned this separately that   the city did not enjoy um what we were able to  do. They didn't have that same benefit, right?   So, do you know how much that increase would  have been 22 uh 23 24 and 25? I'm not sure I   understand the question. So, we we were able  to put money in, right? So the difference So   like the difference between a family plan in 2022  and 2026 like we put in for each year for someone   on a family plan a total of $632.91. So you're  trying to if if the rates had remained flat with   all of the additional funding that was provided,  you're wondering where our hold fund balance would   be today. Is that the question? No, let's just  forget all that. I'll ask you that one offline.   But I is there

123anybody else in the queue? No, just  I just I just want to thank you for the for the   depth of this conversation because this is truly  rocket science. Like I think it's easier to put   humans in space than it is to really muddle  through this process and this and we do talk   about this a lot. Um but it is very difficult  to understand this. So, I I do appreciate the   time you've spent. Um, and uh I guess I guess  I can just leave it there, but but thank you. Okay, I'm going to ask a few questions and then  Miss Rogers. Um, so and and maybe a couple of   comments when I look at it and I'm going back  to slide 18. And the reason I'm going back to   slide 18 is because of something you

124said during  our last schoolboard meeting where you said that   the fund balance is going to deplete by the end  of 2026 even with the increase. And so I worry I   worry about next year also. Um I also and I  I recognize we project the best that we can   with the information that is available to us.  But I am very concerned about the future and   what it holds for our health insurance and our  health insurance premiums. If the projections   are I I don't know that I want to say off, but  if it ends up costing more and than projected,   how that impacts this bigger picture here? Um,  is that something maybe you can speak to? I   think that's more of a budget question. Okay. Um,  that is something that's of great concern as well.   If well,

125we can probably see absorb a $200,000  deficit. If it continues, we will have to as an   employer put additional funding into that  health fun. We have to pay those claims.   Um, we will have we have I mean employee rates  will be set and that will be our only option   and we would have to look and see where  we are with trend and utilization and all   of the things that that David spoke about to  figure out what next steps would be. But that   would truly be a step that we would have to to  grapple with. Okay. Um, and so for my comments,   um, actually let me ask one more question. Um, why  do we do 20 pay periods instead of 26? Wouldn't   it be more consistent for our employees to  do it across? We have employees,

12610-month   employees that don't get paychecks in July  and August. I see. Okay. Thank you. All right. Are we on 24 otherwise? 24 pay periods.  Yes. Pay periods are 24. Okay. 24   depending on their pay options.  Right. Thank you. Contract types. Right. So employees even if they're a 10-month,  they can choose to have a 24- pay option if they   want to and then the deductions would be in the  summer. I mean the um their pay would be in the   summer, but because the system wouldn't be able  to handle, you know, is yours going to be 20 or is   yours going to be 22 based upon your pay option.  It's something that we've talked about. Um, and   perhaps when we look to the future of a new human  capital management system, if it's something to   explore, but

127I don't know, I would have to leave  that to the others on how um if that's even an   option where employees would be paid over 24 pay.  Okay. All right. So, I I think it's it's evident   that the costs of health insurance premiums are  rising, and I don't know that there's anything   that the school board can do to stop those costs  from rising. Um, we just have to unfortunately   um grapple with that. Um I also understand though  and I I think there's a community perception that   is a very real feeling which is school division  has a 1.1 billion dollar budget. Um I know that   we've made many many um cuts to that budget. We've  cut a lot of positions $4.5 million this year.   But you know the question is and I don't know if  this

128is a question for Dr. Robertson or Miss Pate   um is there anything that we can reallocate  and would that be something that can be done   to ease and relieve the burden that our staff is  currently experiencing? Yes. So, uh, Chair Brown,   I appreciate you acknowledging that over the  past two years, we've, uh, reduced central office   funding by $11 million. Some of that's through  positions, some of that's through programs,   and we've done that for the sole purpose to help  the board meet their priority of compensation. So,   really, that 11 million in reductions  has gone fully into compensation. Um,   as we continue to look at our efficiencies  and goal five of our compass of 2030,   organ advancing organizational efficiencies  and excellence, we continue to look at where   are there opportunities for us to leverage  new technologies, leverage

129new processes,   leverage new systems to be more efficient. Um,  the challenge is you can cut programs to save   money or you can cut people to save money. And  neither option is a good option. In Virginia   Beach B City Public Schools, we provide a  private school education in a public school   setting with the number of academy programs we  have, the number of specialty programs we have,   the number of athletic programs we have all the  way down to middle school. And I don't think the   community would tolerate reductions inmies. I  don't think the community is going to tolerate   uh a reduction in athletic services. We had a  long discussion last year about athletic ticket   prices. So then it becomes okay maybe you have to  too many people. One of the hallmarks of Virginia   Beach B city public

130schools is the support that  we can provide teachers in in a timely manner.   The state of Virginia released today the so  results from the spring and once again Virginia   Beach City Public Schools is the second highest  performing school division in the Commonwealth   of Virginia for students more than 20,000. We  exceeded the state on a number of a things and   that's because we have a phenomenal staff but  that staff knows when they need something we are   here to deliver. So again there's two ways to save  money. You cut programs or you cut people. Neither   neither option is palatable but we will do what  is necessary based upon the wisdom of the board. Okay. So I think for me it's very difficult to  look at the situation without knowing exactly   what the fiscal impact of that is.

131And you know,  there's been some suggestions that we would not   have reversion at the end of the year, and I I  understand why. Um that would be a suggestion.   However, um I think that not preparing for the  unexpected would be a failure to exercise our   fiscal oversight. And so, um we have to prepare  for the unexpected. we have to be prepared for   an emergency. Um, including the emergency of  if these claims come in higher than projected   and that would that would be one of those types  of emergencies that we would be faced with. But   um I would just be interested to hear from  my colleagues at this time um if there's   any interest in uh evaluating any of these 75%  or um 50 Miss Rogers. Okay. Um I I did want to   just ask Crystal

132really quick because I was when  I was talking about version funds, I was just   specifically talking about putting the positions  and you were talking about the sweeps and you're   saying that we're doing that and we weren't doing  that previously. Is that going to then impact our   numbers? If we were not specifically allocating  them before and now we are and we're sweeping it   won't No. Well, we fiscal year 2025 is done. So,  reversion is is um that's already gone being well,   it's not gone, but we'll come be coming back to  you all. Um it takes us a while to to get the   books are closed as of the third week. And so,  they've reconciled with the city and then we'll   do what's called the the revenue sharing formula  will be an actual over budget and that

133will couple   with the reversion and we'll bring it back to the  board and then to city council for um approval of   what we want to do with those funds. So in 26  as we built the budget for this fiscal year,   it is in it is the methodology I explained earlier  where it needs to be so that we can sweep. So will   that though impact in a positive way now that  we're going to be sweeping? We hope that it   does. I mean again a lot there's other factors  but like there's other factors but there should   be there should be where we don't have 100%  and every single cost center of every single   um employer contribution health account that we're  actually going to spend to zero. Okay. So that   means that that could impact in a positive

134way  what's in our healthcare. It could and I can't I   can't say what that looks like. No, I and I'm not  asking for a projection. I'm just asking if the   change is going to Yes. help us. Thank you. That  was the one question. As far as your question, I don't know that I can answer. I I would  like to have more than those two options.   Does that make sense? that maybe we can maybe  do something different if the if the 50 75%   I mean I don't think this needs to just be one  conversation and and if the 50 doesn't look like   we can do and 75 that we explore other avenues  u so uh Linda we have open enrollment starts   uh September 29th what's our what's our re  real timeline before we would have to

135make   significant adjustments to open enrollment which  would then impact. Can you walk us through that   timeline? Because I think to Miss Rogers  question um the work that is required to   turn other scenarios around is not something that  occurs in a day. So yes, so our original deadline   to benefit focus was July 31st to provide them  with all of our plan design changes and rates.   um because what that takes is they have to  configure their system and then we test the   data and then it's you know finalized before it's  released. Um we have had conversations with them   um to basically say we're you know if if we can  get it you know you a change a week before or   two weeks before we're running out of that time  I guess before open enrollment like we need

136you   to make it happen. Um, but there will come a time  when we and I don't I guess have that access. I'm   I'm gonna give you the answer. So, Miss Mkins  is not trying. She The reality is by September   10th. Yeah. We have to be able to say what  we're going to do because the longer we wait,   we cannot send stuff out and have it wrong. Right.  And and I'm not I think what I'm kind of trying to   understand is what the choices we've been given  is a longterm supplement where maybe if we can't   afford that we do a one-time but I don't know  what that would look like and how much. Does that   make sense? where and if even if we can afford  it, but I'm saying if we can't do a monthly,   we'll

137give you a like 50%. So if that's not  feasible, is there something we can do like   just a one-time thing to try and help? I I don't  know. That's what I'm asking. So yeah, I would say   that if the board decided that let's just say in  December they wanted to provide a stipened amount   to to staff who chose our health insurance plan.  I will just share with you 75% of our staff chose   the health plan. 25% of the staff did not choose  the health plan. you would really need to give a   100% of the staff the same stipend or you're going  to have 25% of the staff, which is well over 3,000   employees who are going to be furious that they  didn't get $500. When you look at the total amount   you might be able

138to provide, you're probably  talking about $500. So, is it something the   board could ask us to take a look at? Absolutely.  We'd have plenty of time to take a look at that.   That just is another option. Again, I'm I if we  can't afford the other two, if it's really not   soluble, I I I think doing nothing is not an  option. So, I'm just trying to do something, Miss Melnik. So, I like that option much better,  Dr. Robertson because the thought of negative   numbers being thrown at me and having to make a  decision by September 10th to tweak this is very   scary to me. So, we recently had a million-doll  bill to the VEC that we were not expecting. Um,   we Oh, what else? I was going to say something  else that is significant with uh

139Darn it,   I got off track. Um, I'm just very concerned even  the health plan itself and the and that balance   um and the the potential for a negative number  there that's very scary. Um, we I I call myself   classically trained uh over the last 11 years  by people who have been doing this job for a   very long time. Frell Hansicker, you you are under  Frell. um and and the work that you do, the work   that HR does, the work that we do as a group to  budget. Um we've already planned our budget and   so right now it's very very tricky. Oh, this is  what I was going to say. It's really what's coming   from the federal government also. So we had a cut.  So as you all know, we had an executive order that   that

140slashed money from school divisions across  the nation. And we have to be prepared. We have   to be smart with our money. and we have to keep  a percentage in in the bank technically, right,   to offset any of these federal cuts that might  happen on a whim. And and that's very scary.   Um and I think we worked very hard this year  together. I think we walked away from budget   together and all of us agreed that was tough, but  look what we did and we planned appropriately and   none of us could have predicted. I mean, we knew  it was there technically, but not to this level.   And I'm sorry for this, but I am very interested  in once we get over this hump and we get in and we   see what we have left um giving um

141investigating  giving our teachers a stipen and that's where I   stand on that. But today and getting it done by  September 10th, I just can't. Yes, Dr. Green. It's me. All right. Um, thank you. Um, I also,  um, concur with not rushing as well. And then   a question I have um Miss Mackinson and and and  Miss Pake. Um we we have a robust benefits package   and and I think uh I would be remiss if we did  not also reference that other benefits that we   pay for employees is a portion of their VRS for  the Virginia retirement system. So my question,   and I know you may not have an answer, and this  is another reason why I would I lean toward   postpone. Do we know whether or not we're given  the economy, are we going to have

142an increase to   the employer's contribution for the V? I know  you may not know that right now for the VRS   anytime soon. We do not. I mean, I think we just  received some actual reports from the state. Um,   and we can look and see, but usually we kind  of get that information right when we're doing   the beginning of the budget. Um, so it's  not an increase for this year for 27. Um,   I know the city's projecting that, but theirs is  different than ours. And so, um, we can check into   that and see, um, those reports, the timing  of those comes as we're trying to do our our   financial reporting. and we do a bunch of notes  in our um ACT for and all that kind of stuff. So,   we'll see um if we can get

143that sooner rather  than later. Right. Thank you. And and just to   add to that V the voluntary contribution of  employee of hybrid employees will directly   impact an employer match and that's unpredictable  but so it you know there's attempt to to budget   that but to your point that's a factor as well  right and that's why I I wanted to make sure that   and especially for our viewing public that they  understand even though we're having a very good   conversation about health benefits um you know the  VRS, the Virginia Retirement System contributions   as well are as equally and could be significant  for employees as well if there were an increase. Mr. Ken, Madam Chair, I don't know if you're  taking a headcount on people's perspectives, but   uh I'd like to second Mrs. Melnik's commentary,  not only her caution

144as far as the speed at which   we're moving, but also the heart that accompanies  the desire to try to do something to address the   issue that exists. So, I'd like to just go on  record in support of her rationale and reasoning. Vice Chair Williams, I agree with that. Also,  I think that we need to be very cautious and we   do not we cannot have a negative balance and we  do not need to get close to a negative balance   because of unintended costs that are definitely  going to come in one way or another. So,   um I agree with my colleagues on that as well. Mr.  Bowensteel. Yes. I just want to say that I agree,   you know, on where we're looking at going and  I want to say thanks to uh Miss Melnik and Miss   Rogers

145for kind of bringing up the discussion on  ways that we could save some money and make it,   you know, more affordable for the teachers.  So, thank you for bringing that up, Miss Falton. Thank you, Cher Brown. And I just  like to say to um all the presenters today,   thank you for your hard work and giving us a  detailed discussion on all that we've heard today.   I I would go in deep, but I was talking with the  state uh delegate with a couple of them this week   and they informed me that everything is going to  be tight. They're working tightly too in Richmond   because of all the things that has come down from  the from Washington, from the federal government.   uh Medicaid, Medicare, all those cutbacks and  they're going to have to try to find monies

146to   figure what to do to figure it out. And so that  they were saying to me in the subliminal message,   education probably won't get anything at all or  if you get anything be very slim. You know, I'm   very passionate about public education. I guess  a lot of you know that and most of my board me up   here are as well. But public education has never  been fully funded. uh we've had to do things with   mandates whether unfunded mandates or a mandate  was not fully funded and I could go off and name   a couple of them that we had to do. idea was one  of them as well and a lot of things that came   down but this division found a way to uh do what  we had to do and but no one people see

147it going   people see it happening but no one asked how are  you doing this what did you have to move or move   around and and Dr. Robert spoke so spoke to really  well. When you move one thing to address another,   it's like a domino effect. When you move a  staff, what happened to their position? What   happened to our teachers that have to take take  on more because you move three teachers out of   that that school or you move uh a part of the  transportation. So we have to be very cautious   how we move with this and how we move out. There  are consequences of moving too fast and there are   consequences moving too slow. So I'm looking at  all that we are having to do and it's a crunch   time. Nobody's letting them when they

148said when  they talked about dismantling public education.   You know parents are totally losing it. What are  you all what are you all going to do school? Well,   how are you all going to address this? And  it became a burden on our shoulders as well.   Um, I like um what my colleagues have said,  Miss Milick, Miss Rogers, and Dr. Green,   not rushing into anything and and reviewing  options of what we can do and moving forward   and not going into a negative. I totally agree  with them what they're saying and I hope that   um we can come back with some resolve on making  sure that these things happen. But when you having   your support team that well or people that you  get your money from the the the state delegates   in your city talking things that doesn't 

149sound too good then you go back into another   crunch. It is fearful. I don't want to be in a  negative as well. I want to make sure that we do   uh fiduciary responsibility well because when  it falls down the crack it'll look like you   know you did not do your job. So, I'm all  for what my colleagues Mil Rogers and Dr.   Green are saying and uh let's have some  options to make this happen. Thank you, Miss Dwire. So, I guess I have to speak to everybody else  did, but I just want to say thank you to both   of you and Crystal. Um, this wasn't easy and  you guys were concise. You brought a lot of   clarity and you enlightened us to a tough  topic and I think all of us benefited from   the information that

150came forth tonight and  I just want to say thanks. You're welcome. Okay. Um so thank you very much for your  presentation and all the information. Um   I want to thank the teachers that have tuned  in, the custodians, the bus drivers. um nurses,   really all of our staff, every single person  that works in this division is very important   in making sure that our division does really  great things for our students. Um I personally,   um as much as I would love to, you know, have  evaluated some of this, there there just isn't   enough support at this time. And I I think the  reality is that I'm hearing from the board is that   all of us would love to find a way to do this and  find a way to reduce it and find a way to get

151it   to what the cost was last year, but the reality  that we're faced with is that we can't actually   um do that without being extremely risky. I  like the concept of seeing if there's a stipend,   although I am a little bummed that it would be  post tax versus pre-tax, but um we're going to   work with what we what we have and we will all  work together on that. Um it doesn't sound to   me from the comments on the board that we're  going to want any allocation recommendations   uh at this time at our next school board  meeting. Although I do believe we still   have some presentations related to healthcare  uh perhaps on our agenda and we are going to be   discussing health core care very robustly on this  school board um because of all the information  

152that you've seen here tonight. So I imagine  we we may be dealing quarterly. Dr. Robertson,   it'll be built into the budget calendar  which uh Miss Pate will share with you   uh on September 9th. Okay. Thank you. Um  Miss Rogers, I just wanted to add that   um I completely acknowledge that it is our staff  that keeps our schools running. Our so scores are   what they are because of our staff. Um, and  that I completely understand that we can't do   this without you. And so we will work to try and  remedy this as best as we can. Um, while we can't   control our health care costs on our own, if I  could, I would. Um, we're going to work towards   solutions in other ways to make this um, more  affordable, and that's what I'm going to do.

153Okay, thank you. Um, it is 8:53  p.m. and we are now adjourned. [Music]

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