School Board Meeting - July 7, 2020

001good evening hello everyone welcome to our regular school board Directors meeting tonight my name is Julie Bocanegra and the board chair and at this time just to let you know that we are following Governor enslie's Proclamation 2028 in response to the Cova 19 outbreak temporarily suspending portions of the open public meeting act the proclamation requires that all the tenants at an open public meeting not take place in person that occur motely including the Board of Directors and the public our meeting this evening is conducted via zoom audio webinar at this time I would like to do a call to order and ask for a roll to confirm the attendees director rob Perkins here director Gini gronwall here director Rachel Rogers here superintendent might really know here administrative assistant Laurie straw here also joining us is

002braver instan do Brian do we lose him I'm here oh hi Brian hey thank you alright our first order of business is we need to excuse vice-president Bradford as she is absolutely this evening I move that we excuse director Bradford from the meeting this evening second favor say aye all right next is we need to adopt this evenings agenda director Rodgers I move that we adopt the consent the tonight's agenda as presented director Granville seconds all right it's a moon second all in favor say aye aye aye aye aye all right thank you would it be easier if we did a roll call vote on these however you want to do it forget right okay next is our board consent agenda again we'll take entertain a motion for approval Victor Perkins move to adopt the

003board consent agenda as presented dress for grunwald second all right it's been moved and seconded on favor say aye it's an IDE for me Ron hi Rachel hi and Ginny hi perfect thank you all right next up is the superintendent the consent agenda okay sorry I will entertain motion I move that we adopt good night Arthur Sze Brendon superintendent consent agenda as presented to perkins seconds all right second all in favor say aye it's an eye for me Rob hi Rachel hi Rick Jenny aye great thank you all right next is our superintendent report is that correct yes yeah I think that is correct Thank You Julie I will take it from here for a little bit you know it's been obviously quite a spring and unprecedented is the word that we've used repeatedly so

004I guess the first thing I would say is that thankfully I think we have staff taking some time off right now and having an opportunity to kind of recharge somewhat as everyone prepares for the push to reopening whatever that ends up looking like depending upon the guidelines from the state and depending on what the board ends up supporting as we move forward I think when we met a week ago we've been meeting about every week and having conversations about school opening last week when we met we talked about OSPI anticipating having a template out by somewhere around July 13th for us to start working on looking at what is it what exactly is that plan look like in terms of what has to be said for approval we expect that to see that I guess

005next week somewhere around beginning a next week middle of next week come to recap where we're at now as people are kind of taking a little bit of time to recharge we tasked the building principals throughout the district to kind of come up with a the the beginnings of a building plan what it would look like with respect to the guidelines that have come out from the state whether that was not just the buildings but departments so the transportation how do we how do we pick students up what does it look like in terms of the protocols on a bus when they get to school how do we manage the students as they attend in school staff how do we manage staff as they arrive at school what options do we have with respect to

006either a full school whether that's a hybrid model and then also continuing to work on the distance learning 2.0 option as we've talked a number of times about the the survey that went out in the spring that we have maybe 15 or so percent which is really similar to what surveys we're seeing in other districts in Southwest Washington with respect to parents being interested in participating having their children participate through the distance learning rather than either the hybrid or full as it stands right now the guidelines have been pretty firm with respect to the six-foot social distancing what we're looking at with respect to the six-foot social distancing guidelines is the possibility of having a full-time elementary option along with the hybrid for the secondary schools the size of the classroom the size of the

007student the the type of seating arrangement our is the kind of the factor that determines a lot of that and also ultimately how many students do you feel you can you can have in a classroom with us with six-foot social distancing and kind of depending upon I've heard different numbers from different school districts so we're still working on that we're still seeing how that works also shared last week that a pretty widely distributed letter from the I think it's the American Association of Pediatrics he D at Rick doctors had been shared with respect to the importance I think the goal that I've stated and the board has supported throughout has been the idea that kids need to be in school for learning for any number of reasons we need to have our kids safely in

008school and the AAP the Association of pediatric doctors basically in their letter were saying the same thing there was one of some work around that with respect to superintendents kind of sharing that with legislators and I think there are legislators sharing that information both with OSPI and with the governor's office and and the I think the main piece of their recommendation recommendations from the pediatric Association was with respect to the social distancing three three feet was good and it's something that's seen in other countries in other states six I think they the the CDC had even put out some information and definitely said it in the in the letter around one meter or three feet being good and 2 meters and six feet being better but that three feet there would be more flexibility say

009static heard I saw some emails today and Rob might have seen these emails as well from laws des putting some information forward sharing it with the Department of Health with respect to representing board board members across the state and asking for some review of the three feet versus six feet which has since then this afternoon I received an email from Tim guard shall exact you director of waz des where they're looking to compile information to share with the Department of Health with respect to what percentage of students do you think you could serve in elementary middle and high school with three feet social distancing hers to six feet social distance so I will respond to that or we will respond to that tomorrow I think that there's pretty broad belief that with three feet social

010distancing that we very likely would be able to open full again with the proper safety protocols and one of the things that we put out I think it was last week on our website was kind of a three-tiered look at the options full what it would look like along with safety guidelines what does a hybrid look like with safety guidelines and then it was distance learning 2.0 looks like depending on which of those three options we end up with certainly it's going to be distance learning as one option for parents the truth we'll have to make a decision whether or not we how we have parents determine how they want to off the into that and then if you opt in is that an opt-in for a semester or is that an opt-in for a

011couple months you know is it a is it a flexible opt-in but that will require some conversations between the district and the way we staff and and the backdrop of all of this is obviously us having conversations with all of our labor associations to talk about working conditions and what does it look like in the fall in any of the any of the situation so we at this point you know like I said I think we've got a lot of people right now taking the opportunity to enjoy the rain that we get every July and sometimes in August and but at the same time recharging themselves so that we come back and are ready to kind of just keep working honestly will continue to provide will monitor what's going on i I'm continuing to have

012legislative calls every week and superintendent calls zum meetings every week I would say that Melissa cam Bosque as our lobbyist it has done an unbelievable job with respect to taking information and sharing information and just trying to advocate for safe open with as many kids as we can possibly have in school bond projects continue on time and under budget and I think I saw some post today around the work that's going on in Y East some of the not necessarily groundbreaking but we've got fencing up and so again we've got three Elementary's that are within two months of opening now at this point we get two elementary schools at the beginning of construction we have Mountain View at the beginning of construction realized at the beginning of construction we've got legacy and forty nine excuse

013me I forgot the name the new name emerald nose Worth Academy Hollingsworth Academy opening in the fall of 2011 all kinds of work going on continuing and then the district office as well it's going great I mean I think there are some unforeseen costs associated with the coronavirus but still under budget and on time which is significant at the district office there's a lot of work in the curriculum Department on preparing for the August PD that's going to occur I met last week with Clarissa on kind of her plan for year one of the work that she's doing as executive director of equity and inclusion she's got a great plan that provides a lot of professional development for our staff for the board starts to create kind of specially trained teams at the schools as

014soon as we can get together as a group and even if we can't get together we'll have her participate in one of these and an outline to you what that plan looks like really enjoyed my meeting with her unbelievable asset for our school district and we're gonna be very lucky to have her the first thing that will occur this month is the equity audit she's already reached out to a company to to do that for us and I think it starts here in the next couple weeks actually so I guess that's since we'll talk money in a little bit I'll leave it at that that we continue to have an unbelievable effort from our staff from honestly for everybody our our teachers our administrators and again to reiterate I think we shared this at our

015meeting last week but we also have a three year tentative agreement with IEA that the board will vote on next week on the 14th I expect their vote results I think by the end of this week very happy about that very pleased with the great work that we were able to achieve with EEA janae did an unbelievable job of leading our team I've mentioned last week the other members Tracy Thompson was very in a girl Jai beYOU know bill omen and then I participated in all of those meetings also and then EE a Lisa rein bill bevel Rob Lutz like linda campbell mani and maggie and i I'm sure I'm forgetting somebody but it was a Kristi peek from mill plain it was it was a it was a good you know when you think

016about trying to deal with very [Music] difficult I don't say difficult you know just kind of obviously there's different positions there's different opinions on these things and then when you're trying to do that all by zoom like this I know it's a lot easier to read the room than it is to be able to read each other spaces when we look at this although I think I can read what Julie's thinking now I can't it's just it's easier to collaborate and work through problems when you're the same room so to be able to achieve what we did by the end of June was very significant and with that all stop is there any word on the open public meeting act and when we can get back new person yeah my understanding the update from last

017week was they extended it through midnight tonight and it's governor Inslee held a press conference this afternoon not that it really talks about open public meetings acts but he talked mostly about masks and and he didn't talk about it at all so I would assume because as these as we get closer to the days where they kind of come out with their update it seems like it's usually the day after a couple days after so I would imagine by tomorrow there wasn't anything like there wasn't any going backwards in what we're doing from what he said today in terms of in terms of the rising cases there isn't any next step of we're going you know we're going back to face one or anything like that so my assumption would be that we probably have

018a decent chance of having a meeting together next week and it feels like after the next update we kind of get here from Oise des is that it feels like wash with something out that's usually I think like we get stuff we get the information from is usually waz de I think that's it for me okay I'm gonna say yet the the guidance if anything came out from a press conference today it'll take him a while to put the email together so we weren't here till tomorrow I didn't see anything on was this site about what happened today all right thanks Mike sure all right next on our agenda is monitoring district operations operational expectation Oh II to which is emergency superintendent succession this is a second reading this evening so members of the board

019have received the revisions for operational expectation Oh II to emergency superintendent succession I'm in turn this over to Mike to explain the revision yeah so the OE two requires the district to identify an emergency superintendent and I have designated janay domes as the emergency superintendent her task and this is is initialling that very Zoey's and results policies that's one of the documents that you have there so we've already had it I think you said this is the second reading so I would I would recommend that we approve janay as the emergency superintendent all right at this time then we will call for a motion Julia as director Perkins I move that we accept the revisions 408 to emergency superintendents it's a succession has presented for approval all right thanks Rob second director greenwalt seconds all

020right and then this time then we'll go ahead and open it up for questions or comments from the board I don't have any okay I know this is our second reading yeah time that we've had brought this up all right so this time we'll take a vote to accept the revisions for OE to emergency superintendent succession as presented all in favor say aye it's a night for me Rob hi Rachel Jenny hi all right okay great that is approved all right so next is the budget update so we'll go back to Mike for a budgetary update so we continue to we continue to monitor this year we had started the year at around 23 million I've shared a few times that our fund balance was going to increase with respect to the closure and a

021lot of the reasons for that around reductions of sub cost reductions of fuel cost reduction of you know I and I've said it kind of jokingly but you know when people aren't at work people have less of an opportunity to spend money on things so there's been less money spent on things or utility bills are lower RB ABM bit so just a number of things have contributed to reductions we actually had a I've had a conference call with Moody's this last week they had reached out and they've been reaching out to school districts to kind of get a current assessment of where their districts are there are I think there are districts that have been negatively impacted by that from the virus more so than we have so it was a good it was a

022good conversation with them to build explain kind of what ever however Green has been affected by it and then also looking forward their whole purpose is to take a look at the ratings obviously for bonds in the future we've sold two of our we have done two bond sales of the 600 million Plus that we passed in the bond in 2018 we had another one so they're just trying to get an update on that but I anticipate that our fund balance could be 27 million ish up from 23 we had originally thought that that 23 might go down to 22 22 and a half and I've been saying and I will continue to say that we will use those funds they'll balance the budget as we deal with need and so the current year that's

023kind of where we're at where we've got what two months left things are kind of almost completely done we're continuing to work on the budget for 2021 and one of the individuals that's worked with me on the budget for the last several years is Tammy gasps away and I had also mentioned to each of you that she was retiring she retired effective June 30th and I wanted to say thank you to Tammy publicly for all the work that she did how hard she worked and everything she's done for our school aesthetic she worked in Evergreen over like 32 or 33 was 32 years and was a tremendous asset for the district and just a really good person and we'll miss her we continue to work with that we I also shared Jennifer Jacobsen who has

024she came over when Bill Thackery retired it's gonna take a lot of her responsibilities some of her responsibilities and I'm working with I'm working with her on completing the budget we will have our meetings and this month early August like we have in every year done but this is not an easy budget to put together we will use will one of the questions was whether or not the stimulus money that was coming from federal government was going to get supplanted at this point in time there doesn't look to be a legislative session this summer a matter of fact there it doesn't look like there's an any agreement on cuts or potential tax increases at the legislative level for them to call a special session even into the fall so in my text being with Melissa

025today what what she is saying is that they're waiting to see the effect of the next revenue forecast which would be September to determine whether or not they would call anything special and fall but the likelihood is that they won't do that and that they will meet in their regular session in January they're facing an eight point eight billion dollar shortfall over a three over three years calendar years July 1 through June 30 so July 1 of 20 through 21 22 23 8.8 billion so you know arguably two and a half to three billion a year the belief is that they'll use their rainy day fund money at least in the short term to deal with things and then back in January 2021 is a difficult year for us budget wise I think 21 22

026will be a difficult year for us budget wise as well I've been saying that we don't know what the reductions are gonna be for 21 22 and Beyond but we are not expecting the the Kerr's money to be supplanted so we will use those funds as well as some of our fund balance to help balance this year all that being said was the backdrop of honestly in July having no idea what September is going to necessarily look like from the perspective of full opening versus a hybrid opening versus a distance-learning opening enrollment we've got estimates of enrollment obviously we have no idea until September to know for sure who's going to show up we do know that our kindergarten counts are really low right now and and we obviously didn't have the opportunity under garden

027roundup where you bring kids in and get them signed up and have to give them the opportunity to see what happens in a school a little bit and also for parents to kind of hear that message as well as get on a bus so there are a lot of unknowns right now and I think I said this last week we've been a district that has I think done well over the years with respect to transparency and that's important that I think the difficult thing will be how quickly we may have to respond to an enrollment decline or some other condition that we weren't expecting that might not allow necessarily the the transparency that we've had I mean will obviously be transparent but maybe not the for forums at each high school and then another fall

028because every day you do something like that in a school year is one more day that you you're spending money so it's just gonna be it'll be a another one of these unprecedented situations that we've been able to work through and we will on this as well I mentioned also I think last week that back in 2000 the fall of 2009 Rob was a member of a web I think two or three committees going on one committee was looking at school capacity we had a committee looking at I think how do we continue to do Capitol renewal in our school district with a bond that had failed in 2008 and then I had a committee that Rob was a member of that looked at budget and potential budget reductions from the following year I talked

029last week about creating a committee that in the beginning might affect effectively act as kind of a budget committee but kind of long term be more of a citizen kind of advisory committee almost kind of taking on what is it that's going on at this moment in time I talked with Gail last week and we started kind of putting together the communication on that so that when we get to mid-october we could probably we would start kind of that budget committee looking at the situation that we have without budget you know just without even the budget backdrop from the state perspective looking at the next few years and also looking at you know the one area that there is potential revenue flexibility for us in the future is the legislature changed the law with respect

030to local levies we have been capped at a dollar 50 in February we loaded a levy in February 2009 teen that locked our levy for three years under dollar 50 and I think that legislative session then they increase the cap $2.50 so it's a combination of looking at budget cuts actually looking at future revenue but we'll work through that many in the 19th fall of 20s we prepare for 2021 budgets and that will be important for us to do that work but I think that this year's budget is a difficult one to put together but we will and I do as I mentioned earlier I think we're we're fortunate to have this cares money not have been supplanted that will help and and then in addition to that we'll likely be using some of our

031fund balance on our way and it's July 7th so usually within the next three four weeks probably this week we'll get the meeting scheduled if they're not already Laurie probably already scheduled them and I just haven't looked that far out we'll have our meetings that we have to talk about the budget in late July or early August because we have to have it approved by the second meeting in August correct yeah we will approve it at by the second meeting in August I think it ultimately has to be approved by the art by August 31st but we'll get it approved we we won't have any reason to do it outside of our normal schedule we'll do a presentation on the budget in the first meeting was phase assignment so 24:28 11th of August and then

032we would approve I think the 25th if those dates are right yes okay so that's what I have on the budget we have to approve the reopening plan by two weeks before which would make the 25th too late yeah I would imagine that we would have to have a plan in place either at a special meeting or no later than the 11th I would think so we've been talking about having one almost every week so I don't know that we necessarily need to have one I mean we'll talk I mean we have one next week I mean we have them all as as soon as we get the template then we can start talking about the template but we also need to understand what the guidelines are to get a good sense but we will

033have the opportunity to talk again next Tuesday and well listen workshop we're gonna do fall planning right so we can probably talk about those timelines correct okay all right any questions for Mike about the budget No all right thank you Mike all right next up is board comments so comments from board of directors anybody have anything I know we just met last week and then we have the holiday weekend in between so it's nice to have a quiet holiday such as it was being the fourth and most of what I have to say can come in the legislative update I think so I'll just defer until then Rachel there Jimmy have anything I don't have anything I don't I don't have anything although I do want to just I know we've all seen the email

034but I also want to just to kind of put it on the record and say it publicly so it's out there also because when I read the email it kind of brought to light not to light but you know kind of went oh yeah you know I understand where she was coming from but it is in our reference to Henrietta Lacks High School and just I know that I have started maybe you know calling it HeLa high because it's it's just it's easier but in the email you know she made mention to the fact that that's you know it feels more like we're idolizing the the blood you know the stem cells and that of what they took from her and not her as a person so I just wanted to kind of just reiterate

035the email and having us all be accountable to it as well and when we've got people to worrying that we're not saying it and that we're actually referring to it as you know Henrietta Lacks High School in the future the point I appreciate it Julie's reply to the email that the Sun then it was clear from that there had already begun an effort to recontextualize the name of the high school for the whole culture yes yeah and we need to do our part as well yeah I was glad to see that email and to read that because I wasn't it didn't even kind of come to mind in kind of abbreviating it so alright thanks Jimmy mm-hm so the only thing that I have is virtually this might not be the easiest thing to do

036but we want to recognize mr. Merlino on his 20 years with evergreen school district we have your 20 year PIN to present so I don't have it with me Laurie we can see Laurie screen otherwise you might be able to see the pin but you have just celebrated 20 years with evergreen public school so congratulations we really appreciate you and all that you do for the school district and thank you 20 years it just goes by so fast it really does go by fast that I think I've had eight kids in the 20 years that no I'm kidding only four but no it's been great I've enjoyed I enjoyed it had great opportunities to work in the school district that Matt and I it's a great district and and I'm happy to be here thank

037you yeah appreciate that do we if they'd have been a person you'd had a cake or something for it or is Damien gonna come in and bring me a cake now I'm sure he's baking it right now just for you that's for Mike be able to share a cake right now I don't think that that would be appropriate that's true that the cake right now right that's true that's true well thank you we move forward now thank you we'll give Lori the honors of sticking you with it so let's see if you probably enjoy that all right well congratulations Mike thank you all right future agenda items do we have anything yeah I guess I would just like to mention that we do have our summer planning session right on the corner literally one month

038from now so we do have some things I know that worry have sent us out an email with just the schedule the dates and times and some of the things that we've talked about putting on that so if you have anything else that you want to add to that please but myself for Victoria or Lori no or Mike and then we'll get those down and in okay anybody else have anything they turn ten items all right so at this time it is citizen comments because we are doing our meetings via zoom webinar people had the opportunity to email their comments and they had until 3:00 p.m. today to do so we did receive for citizen comments and at this time and just keep in mind that since they are citizen comments and not on a

039part of our agenda we won't be able to necessarily respond to the specifics of your comment but we are going to read them and then if there's anything any follow-up or anything somebody will get in touch with you so at this time I'm going to along with dr. Perkins we're going to alternate reading these for citizen comments okay the first one comes in from Pamela Knowles a kindergarten teacher at crystalline Elementary she writes hello I first want to say thank you for all that you have done since March as we have ventured through this new learning together I deeply appreciate the support of the board and the district is we have figured this out together as a kindergarten teacher I am about having all the kids in the classroom full-time in the fall these young

040children need to collaborate problem-solve and play together in order to grow for district state and common core standards I'm worried that full-time social distance learning would not benefit them as well as halftime hybrid small class size environments with some quick and precise instruction face-to-face these young learners could practice skills taught in the classroom at home they could practice these from games and easy paper pencils support without having to log on to a computer in the spring I only had one third of my class willing to log on to the computer I think I could have had much better participation with face-to-face time and some practice time at home not on the computer thank you for listening and your consideration alright well Oh Rob you're a mute this is from Jessica Meyer a teacher at Crestline

041Elementary School she writes evergreen school board attendees thoughts regarding the reopening of Evergreen schools one it is important for students to interact with staff and peers for many reasons students will benefit attending school in person for partial day in the fall too it seems that it would most successful to send students back to school partial days for a period of time and then move to full days reason being we don't know what's gonna happen with the virus and there are many new protocols to follow from OSPI that all staff and students are unfamiliar with it may be more successful to introduce school with protocols in small amounts to begin with so it's not too overwhelming or daunting to all three I'm concerned that students and staff will be wearing a mask for six and a

042half to seven hours per day that is a lot of co2 not to mention there are no windows to be opened for fresh air in addition the irritation on the face after wearing these masks for just a couple of hours is painful face shields also irritate the face and the head for multiple hours for I'm concerned about teaching five to seven-year-olds using the OSPI guidelines in all reality I can't see that these young children can follow the specifics of these protocols five I'm concerned about staff who have underlying health issues six I'm highly concerned about mental health and family trauma related to staying at home for long periods 7 I think that for the majority of the population the best decision would be to go back to school in person for a partial day there

043will be families and staff who have to make unique decisions for the safety of themselves or their family this is a very big decision thanks for the opportunity for us to give feedback jessica.meyer all right the next letter comes in from Jenny Bradley a first-grade teacher at Crestline elementary and she writes good evening my name is Jenny Bradley and I'm a first grade teacher at Crestline elementary school and a member of the EEA Executive Board in the EEA of equity team I am writing the board tonight to say thank you for your recent statement commitment and work towards being a more equitable anti-racist School District at all levels thank you for creating a director of equity district position and filling it with a highly qualified experienced example Ameri administrator and leader or as the Hightower

044I look forward to the work we will all do together to create a more equitable anti-racist school district and community thank you for taking the first steps in creating an equity plan and the board's recent powerful clear anti racism resolution this is the leadership our communities need to dismantle and defeat racism at all levels and I thank you for your clear commitment and first steps in the right direction I hope that our district leadership and this board will carry forward their commitment to doing what is right and as what is best for all students staff and community as we rise to meet our next great looming challenge safely reopening schools amidst a global covet 19 pandemic I have been a pre-k elementary educator for over 15 years and I am immediately familiar with the challenges

045and safety concerns of working in pre-k through 5th grade educational settings both public and private I am gravely concerned about the health and safety issues any version of an in-person fall reopening of school would pose not just for our students but for our staff our families and communities while it may be true that younger people do not suffer the same rates of infection death and serious health conditions as adults and the elderly research and data show more and more children from infants to teenagers becoming seriously ill dying and suffering long-term health complications from kovin 19 the fact that the health effects on the young may not be a severe or as prevalent and our healthiest students also does not change the reality that healthy students can still carry and spread the virus to others indiscriminately

046anyone who has recently spent any time with young children knows that they are walking talking adorable germ vectors who are totally incapable of being conscientious or careful about reducing the spread of their germs and what about our medically fragile immuno immunocompromised and other at-risk students what about our at-risk medically fragile staff and Families for that matter just because many students will be safe and healthy does not mean that all students all staff and our family members are magically immune or that have at risk for serious long-term health effects or death from koban recent research and data is showing serious long-term health effects such as permanent lung brain nerve heart kidney and liver damage or failure and many other long-term serious side effects and symptoms that can be debilitating are we really willing to choose it

047is a choice a decision to willingly sacrifice some of our most vulnerable students staff and Families health safety and life so that we can go to school in person in the fall is this really what we are planning for and considering are we really considering what is acceptable human sacrifice and death than the health tool for in-person learning I think we all understand that if nearly 30,000 students and staff congregate indoors for six to seven hours a day in person in the fall student staff family and community community members will become gravely ill and die do at school exposure transmission and infection even if the highest safety standards are followed speaking of which from what I have seen from EPS and OSP I reopening planning and guidelines this was mostly involved enhanced cleaning attempts at

048social distancing which are literally physically impossible in a full capacity full-time return to school with all students every day optimal staying home if symptomatic which does not protect from equally dangerous asymptomatic carriers and some limited use of the least protective forms of PPE not medical grade clock masks when possible this is not enough we know this is not enough we know if we return to school in person while this highly contagious lethal virus continues to ravage our nation our student staff families and loved ones will suffer and die I know these are very difficult decisions and very difficult times we can't please everyone that we can choose to try to keep everyone safe we do have options we as decision-makers have choices some of those options are very high-risk full return to school with little

049to no safety precautions this is the highest risk and will have the highest cost in terms of health safety and suffering and death a hybrid model where some safety measures such as social distancing would be more possible and effective would be medium risk with lower cost in terms of health safety suffering and death then we have the lowest risk and most safe option enhanced quality remote online education we can provide learning and education opportunities to our students and keep our students staff families and community safe we can we do have an option where we can do both provide education and safety of course this would be a short-term solution it is not an ideal learning environment that there's a huge life-and-death difference between ideal and safe believe me when I say the last trimester an

050online remote learning was one of the hardest and the least enjoyable teaching experiences in my life if we were not in the midst of a raging global pandemic I would not choose to do and ought to do online remote learning with first graders but that does not change the fact that we are in the middle of a raging global pandemic with a highly contagious dangerous lethal airborne virus and it does not change the fact that we have choices we can choose to put health and safety first and still provide quality enhanced online remote learning until the second it is safe for students and staff to return to school in person you can bet the second it is safe to return I'll be running back to school as fast as I can with my students and

051colleagues until then it is my highest priority to do all that I can to keep us all safe and healthy so that we all can return to school together safely thank you for your time and consideration and I do sincerely hope every member of this board and our district leadership will make these very difficult decisions with student and staff and community health and safety as their highest priority sincerely Jenny Bradley number four this comes from Jamal McKenzie campus security officer at Union High School to whom it may concern after reading the recently sent document resolution 636 5 condemning racism I felt compelled to share my story my name is Jamal Mackenzie and I have worked in the Evergreen school district for over 12 years for ten years I have work as a campus security officer

052at Union High School in 2018 I was awarded security Officer of the Year by the Washington School Safety Organization for my ability to develop effective communications with and ensure the safety of students and staff I was selected among 3,000 nominees statewide I have my bachelor's degree from Washington State in public affairs with a Justice Studies emphasis as well as a minor in sociology I played Division one soccer at Santa Clara University I coached both soccer and basketball at Union High School I am currently and have been for the past seven years an assistant coach at George Fox University for the men's basketball program I share all of that information to illustrate my qualifications for the position of Dean of Students and athletic director both positions however have wording in the job qualifications which require someone

053to have a teaching certification neither job demonstrates the same skill set used by teachers the Dean of Students should require someone that has knowledge of safety and security combined with social skills to work with students staff and parents an athletic director deals with coaches teams student athletes and parents not teaching there are several sections of the newly shared Board resolution number six 365 that I believe could be put into action by the slight word change of required to preferred within job qualifications it is my understanding that over 90% of the certificated staff in the Evergreen school district is Caucasian while our students that identify as people of color is over 40% despite these numbers the Evergreen school district is still requiring certifications for these jobs which continue to create barriers for certain people I met

054with bill omen and Tracey Thompson separately last year to discuss these job qualifications and the relevancy of having a teaching certification required the only explanation that I received was that this was how it has always been worded I find it interesting that a school district where both Superintendent and the chief human resource officer do not have any experience as a classroom teacher yet they require it for the positions mentioned above the reasoning for this is probably because both people in those positions have the necessarily have the necessary qualifications to excel at their jobs and were given the opportunity to prove that through their experience the interview and hiring process as well as their college education despite not ever having been a teacher in order to attain obtain a job as a Dean of Students or

055an athletic director in the future I have started pursuing my certification I've already spent one year and have another year remaining I will have spent close to $30,000 in order to obtain the certification that I hope not to use for jobs that I am already qualified for I have worked with or for at least one administrator currently in every high school in this district and if they were asked I assure you that they would hire me for either position my hope in writing this is to remind people just had this proportion that our certificated staffing is and showa way in which it can be improved I appreciate the steps that the district is taking to acknowledge and recognize changes that need to be made and I'm hopeful that these changes include hiring practices thank you

056for your time respectively respectfully pardoning respectfully Jamal Mackenzie all right thanks Ron so that was our force though some comments that were you received thank you for sending it in your emails and that we do appreciate receiving those and hopefully in some of the you know conversations that we're gonna have in you know our fall planning and some work that we're going to do around that will answer some of that for you okay so at this time we're gonna have a recess probably a very short recess is then we're gonna dive right into our board workshop where we're gonna do fall planning as mentioned before we'll get a legislative update and then we'll do a board meeting debrief okay do we need a break just a minute okay so we'll just take a two-minute break

057sounds good okay there I am you are we ready to move forward you continue I'm ready yep okay so should we start then with fall planning yeah sure all right partner Brian are you well no I think Brian's here just in case there's any specific questions but really I just kind of we are in this point in time where there's been a lot of work done in the buildings kind of looking at different options and we are honestly waiting to see whether or not there's any guideline changes I think based upon the guidelines right now the biggest question is in elementary looking at the social distancing guidelines and what is the maximum number of kids that we believe could be in a classroom if so that that's kind of a it really honestly in my

058mind it comes down to the social distancing whether or not they relaxed that or not at all and ultimately if they don't then how many students do we feel we can we can have in an elementary classroom how many students choose how many families choose to have their students attend remotely and then what does that do in terms of shrinking the capacity in our classrooms and then at the same time what enrollment do we end up with in the fall I think a lot of the comments that you saw heard from the citizens with respect to safety measures definitely we will be doing everything I think I mentioned also last week that we've already got a pretty significant PPE purchase that's occurring I talked with Brian last week ESD 112 is creating is creating kind

059of a cooperative with all the districts in Southwest Washington to kind of group purchase so that we can get the best rates we possibly can on all these things we're looking potential feel dividers you know doing whatever we can to help with the social distancing so I think for me the keys are right now what does the template look like what what what goes into the actual plan that you ultimately have to approve and then what if anything happens with respect to the guideline recommendations from OSPI and from the governor and we're kind of in a holding pattern obviously we're gonna get to a point where if there isn't any action taken we're gonna have to put something into a plan that goes one way or the other but as I said earlier and Rob

060was asking will be meeting pretty much every week so that we have the most appropriate information for that and I think it doesn't hurt to have a conversation about from your perspective at which meeting do you want to ultimately approve this is that a meaning the forth is that a meaning the 11th that kind of dictates some of this as well within those things that you're talking about we still have a lot of conversations how do we feed kids you know do kids go get meals bring them back and we deliver meals so there's a lot of there's a lot of questions still within all of this that aren't necessarily board level decisions the the board level decisions obviously going to be the hybrid versus full and what are the guidelines to drive that so

061Mike are you looking for some guidance from us on like when we think it's best to have the the plan in place to present to them to the public well and maybe Brian can weigh in on this from the perspective of parents I mean to me the earlier we get information to parents where we have a pretty certain idea of what we're gonna do at the same time the longer we wait we'll have a more certain idea of what we're going to do so it's kind of one of these you you know you it's it's you're between a rock and a hard spot like we are it seems like all the time so I'd even be interested in you know because you know we're not hearing a lot like we're seeing emails come in every

062now and then but we're not hearing a lot of I think when we get to August so it's gonna be it's gonna start really ramping up people start thinking about getting back school once you get through July so I I do think we can wait until we see the actual template what goes into it but I believe and my sense would be Brian would agree with it's that parents want to know asap what what what our ultimate plans are yeah I would agree with that and also say that as we all know the the context is changing all the time as we see around the country they just saw this morning a survey I think was either and I'm not sure which state they talked about how they did a parent survey three weeks ago

063and then they surveyed this same group again they got different results and I think we all get that as the as Kobe goes up and down in the different trends so it we I feel like we have a really good plan at the same time we will probably have to adjust it because it just depends on circumstances so we might have to ask parents and then ask them again and if things change if the environment change I was looking at that data this morning is that even here that casus went up and there was a big jump in case it's right in Clark County reported right on the fourth which means the disease had spread to those people before them of course so yeah I have a lot of I guess feeling for the complexity

064of something with such moving parts and at the same time I'm hearing for parents who would like to know as soon as possible what the classroom is going to look like someone suggested to me that we try and make videos where some volunteers show what a classroom looks like under these rules and then and then publish that as the plan develops and I don't know how much time we have or anything that was one of the parent suggestions that I heard one of the things that that is interesting is like I participate in calls with a lot of different school districts Southwest Washington even around the state and and my bed is you and again class sizes classrooms square footage is different in every building as well but you generally have anywhere from 750 to

065900 feet not necessarily square feet I'm not just on whatever green I'm talking about other districts too so what's interesting is hearing it is hearing the range of students that different districts think can fit in a classroom of similar size with the same guidelines so I also think it's going to be interesting at the state level if they get planned saying well we can fit 25 kids in a classroom with six-foot social distancing but another one says we can only fit 16 or 14 you know what what how it is OSP I look at that and and I also understand that all you know some buildings have have storage built in they have things built in I do believe for us to have kids at that numbers approaching our class sizes so if you think

066about an average class size of 20 in an elementary and if you had 10 the 20% of those students choose not to participate you're talking 16 17 students in that type of an elementary classroom I think that we have a lot of stuff in classrooms too I've been in them this summer it's kind of like when you go to a restaurant there's nothing on the table anymore if you go to a restaurant I feel like the classrooms have to be that has to be thought about to what what stays in a classroom to allow for the the social distancing all of it with the backdrop of it's important for our kids to be in school and we all saw that and we all see that but understanding it is very difficult I think that there

067are ways we do have students who I think one of the letters talked about we have students that are at risk and fragile certainly we would have plans in place we're not talking about every student thrown into a classroom irrespective of their their conditions same that same would go for staff as well we do have staff that have underlying conditions we do have staff over certain ages in areas that are much more problematic or yeah they're there they're asked to not participate in these things or be around people we have to figure out ways to accommodate them I mentioned earlier that we're you know we've reached out jenay's reached out to bill that well we're trying to set up our initial meetings talked about a lot of back to work or back to school how

068would that look and what the conditions were so I mean honestly we're not gonna make a decision tonight I think we need to see what the template looks like next week we need to see whether or not there are any changes to the guidelines but if there are changes to the guidelines I'd say within a couple weeks we're gonna have to we're gonna have to kind of settle on a plan and move with that at the same time let I get part of the template the application process also to me is if guidelines change what do they allow for revisiting the plan and remember we've talked with dr. Melnick and we've got no direction from the Department of Health with respect to if there are cases what does that mean in a classroom in a

069school how many cases how many so we really are I mean this is really kind of an interesting time where we're operating with absolutely no idea what the conditions might be tomorrow let alone six weeks from now so if we because I think that we need to have our plan out as far in advance as possible so people know what they're dealing with especially if we you know if it's part hybrid part in person I think you know our skill our goal is to get kids back to class but if part of it just based on space and part of its hybrid or whatever I mean parents are going to have to plan for that and the more time that we give them the better so I almost feel like it should be a goal

070of ours to get out to the community the beginning of August more so than wait but then I also see what you're saying like that if we put our plan out there and we not adjust it based on new developments or things that we could do or open up more so I agree with you and I think the 11th is too late I think probably the 4th should be the target for the plan if we're gonna have a meeting every Tuesday so we would get the we would get the template next week that would allow us three weeks to kind of look at that observe see what's good because we kind of know if the guidelines don't change me I was fairly reasonable sense of what the plan would look like we do have to

071lock down elementary exactly exactly what the recommendation would be but I think part of that also is you know if we make a plan out to August 4th part of that plan is going to be and we did the survey we got responses of people that would participate but we're gonna kind of need to get more specific with respect to which families are choosing to participate in the distance learning model which will help inform us as to how we staff that as well if if we if well we're gonna have that regardless of the distance learning model so the the difficulty there is you know we can put a plan in place sometimes parents don't engage until late August so I mean the reality is we just will put a plan out and then we'll

072work with it and we'll manage it as well as we can so you're thinking about okay so that's we could look at the template on the 4th well I think we would look at the template before the 4th well yeah yeah if we have it the 13th we'll look at the template on the 14th well I'm thinking of like completed preliminary plan kind of roughed out template where we're looking at it is this is what we think it could be kind of thing I would like to be able to as much as possible get some panels of students or panels of parents to just feedback to us what they think I don't know what level that sat but I would love to talk to students about their experience from last year and from what they

073think about going into this year so if we have the template next week is there time I guess to you know the share of the components with it with students staff parents get feedback before we make a final determination well I think if we have a if we have a we have the template if we see what the template looks like what we'll do is probably just create two plans if we have two this is the plan without social distancing this is the or with it without changes it's the plaintiff there were changes as far as as far as panels and I mean the thing about it is we will we're getting staff feedback we've received some students you know student and staff feedback I think one the when we get feedback you want to

074be able to respond to feedback so if we get feedback we don't want masks we don't want me we don't have the choice on masks so I mean part of it is what do they really have an outdoor opportunity to influence some most a lot of it's just what the mandate is from the state level it comes down so what if they say well we think everything should be social we should we should just do distance learning well if we had a panel that said everything should be distance learning we don't listen to that well sometimes the value isn't having the panel and having the conversation it helps people know that they've been listened to and we can I guess flesh out the ideas and the requirements what we have a choice around and what

075we don't have a choice around in a conversation I like creating those kinds of opportunities people spread the word well if it's if it's something that it's I guess the thing is I I think it's great to get feedback when feedback can actually be listened to I think I in my experience in the past where I've been participants in something well we'd like to ask them but we're not sure what they're gonna say and if they say something we don't want to say we don't want to we don't want to listen to them and I think if you're gonna actually ask people something you've got to be able to and willing to listen so really I think it's great I agree and it with the transparency always have to think about what we would be

076asked for and what feedback they would help inform you in whatever decision you needed to make because we know we're in a new distance learning that's going to be an option right it really kind of comes down to the social distancing question whether it's six feet or whether it's three feet and whether it whether it at six feet we believe as a board and so this I mean this would be feedback if if you squeezed a number of kids into an elementary classroom how do you feel about that if it meets the six foot social distancing guidelines are you comfortable with that even are you comfortable with protocols in place or should there be some enhance that understanding so I guess that would be the biggest thing for me as is trying what are we

077trying to learn from the conversation not just to have the conversation that makes sense what I'm saying it makes sense I think we would most likely hear from people on both ends of the spectrum and some in the middle and we're gonna hear all different opinions the forum wouldn't come to a consensus let's say but you know our plan I think is to give options at this point yeah and that's probably the best we can do to try and appease everybody and try to do what's best for the kids I mean the option of distance learning is is you know if parents aren't comfortable with that that's huge that the state's allowing us to do that and continue to be funded and it's also great potentially for staff that are in compromised positions as well

078or let whatever the most maybe I think a big thing is outreach with parents to try to get that information from them I think we had 3,000 student responses something like that to the survey that was sent out on would they do it how would they how would they handle this the three you know three thousands not it's not even you know 15 percent of our district so that that's a lot of other people that we still need to get information from and so we have to really think about how do we get the word out and and I also I feel like if we have the the the the other it's hard to figure out exactly how to have the the meeting you know like when I did the webinar I got a thousand

079be everybody's interested but you can't really have interaction with a thousand people right submitted right doll will do these webinars around the state with maybe 200 300 people and it's just him talking and answering questions there's really no back and forth so there's got to be it's just where it's like when we've done these things where we have and we've done these where we have hundreds of people show up these events in and they give us great feedback and it does help inform that's a problem too because we don't necessarily know well we know we're not in phase three for at least another two three weeks any when we get to that point it's up to 50 I think but you know schools we at least have meetings if we got up to fifty I

080still go back there I kind of like what rachel says if the guidelines are this explicit I don't know that there's a lot of there aren't a lot of options it's it's what I'm just thinking about when we do breakfast with the board when we're talking to students there's no way to resolve any concerns right there in the breakfast with the board meeting we're just listening and we're reflecting back what they're saying and and thinking about and sometimes explaining why things are the way they are in the schools that's the sort of thing that I think could be helpful for the community even if we can't take action on what they want because Department of Health isn't saying yes it's interesting to me that I are they still saying that the reopening plans do not

081follow the phases correctly because the WIA guidelines for sports appear to be following the phases in the document that I looked at that was published a couple of weeks ago school districts across the state have been asking the state to follow the phases from the beginning and I don't honestly I don't know why they chose not to what the thought was what it didn't but I think districts always felt like it made sense to follow the phases because if it just made sense but just - it's just for explaining things to people yeah it matches what the rest of the expectations are have been right and I think I mentioned last week that Brian had put together a document that had kind of other states and strategically chosen states with similar ideologies to Washington State

082right and that that information in with respect to school opening guidelines that were more I'm not gonna say lenient they just they provided for some more flexibility I know that's been shared with the governor I understand that legislators at the highest level are having conversations with the governor so I guess if there's an interest in trying to do some sort of panels or meetings we need to figure that out quick and we need to figure out exactly what we're listening for because at this point I don't know what they would say that would inform a plan that I would present to the floor yeah maybe just I I don't know I couldn't guess none of us has ever been in a situation like this ever before I'm just in favor of opening opportunities to listen

083to listen even if we can't take action I think there's benefit to that one of the things that I think about is like if we were just gonna go with you know everybody goes back or you know or whatever the model might look like but if we're giving people options I think that that would be the most important thing in this like the social distance learning 2.0 or you know so as it as the option so people have the choice if one doesn't work for them so if we weren't having options then it might be more valuable you know maybe to set up listening forums or things but if we're having different options as part of the overall plan people can choose which which path that they want to take which is best for them

084and their their families or students I would I would encourage you to look again at the three model plan one of the things I like about the distance learning plan is that gives parents and families a lot of more options like Julie's talking about and Rachel I mean I get that would be if you look at it it allows students to get to high-quality online curriculum but also students can access the specials so if you're in k5 your distance learning we're still gonna give you we're gonna figure out waste you can access the special classes in middle school high school you if you wanted to access you're doing distance learning you could access sports and other activities so I think the three model plan as we describe it does give parents and families as many

085options as we can give them at this time with what we know and you share bryanston with some of the technology purchases that were making to make this because I know Rob's asked about the software you with the distance learning the different option you know we were talking earlier this week about that sure just a quick summary so with this 2.0 Pacers are really looking deeply at curriculum so the department's look well really work with the teaching k12 and what didn't what do we need get better at so there there's a whole number of documents around that collective thinking from from teachers instructional coaches from administrators saying what is 2.0 look like one of the things that our goal is that we know it needs to look a lot more user-friendly for the student and

086for the parent k12 so for example there's a couple things that's happening one is the Google beta which we'll be doing in the fall that really more affects grade 6 or 12 but what that does allow is if you have a student in middle school or high school you can just get your skyward alerts like you could before and the grade books will be synced so as you were doing Google classroom work online the grades when it might not be reflected in skyward because you had to do teachers have to do them twice now they'll be talking to each other and so whatever wherever the student progress is at in Google classroom that will be clear immediately and give feedback to parents which we heard clearly that it's just there's so much going on and

087there's Google classroom their skyward that's one piece another tool that the curriculum department felt was critical for next year it's a software application called pear deck but it just allows it's it can integrate to the Google classroom allows for a lot more connectivity as you're teaching including things like you can do assessments immediately thumbs up type things think if you're in K k12 but if if you're ask a question you can get immediate feedback from students and so that you know it's another tool that Creek and Department that was critical we're also looking at a couple more pieces that we think will make the make the experience a lot richer including looking at the idea of Google classroom being k12 so that if you all the kids would be using Google classroom versus summon seesaw

088summer Google classroom so that that's another one of the idea we're working on those snatch a lot of the feedback that I got from relations with elementary school kids and other parents is that having two LMS systems not the Google classroom is an LMS system yet the way that Spokane virtual learnings people might describe it but it's still a tool having one instead of two to manage across three kids two to three kids lifts a great burden it's a real help go ahead okay one of the piece that I forgot that mentioned was you know I know if you had different students at different schools some of them might use zoom more than me Google meets has a number of new tools and pieces that like whiteboards feedback again then make it more effective that's

089another thing that's the last piece we're working on so that we can have Google meets be the standard k12 with the enhanced features so that's the final piece we haven't made that decision 100% but we're headed towards that so just like you're talking Rob there'll be a hopefully more unified LMS like experience if and the other piece gets back to options if you choose distance learning we're hoping that you've already had some success with it we've heard from families that in community where it has worked really well and those that haven't but in giving people the choice were we're gonna believe that they're they wanted to choose that because it did work for their student or they're willing to commit to that in almost learning partner like way as a family versus of a family

090says no it didn't work might we more likely to do the hybrid or the full time based painting on what model were in a couple of models that I saw in the 1.0 were scans of text books or pictures of text books are you moving away from that in your thinking like there was one math teacher who put the PDF of the entire text book into that message chain and there it was always was at the bottom of the message chain but you always had to go back down there and get it in order to find the right page in this 126 page we book of math problems that was difficult that was one of my son's classes and that was difficult for him to find each time is there an evolution away from that

091yet part of what our curriculum instruction folks and I would just echo what Mike said there's people working really really hard all summer continuing Marta their plan is to have couple weeks planned out for teachers so that model lessons how to do it what it looks like how those scaffolds and that's really utilizing our instructional coaches not just for the creaking side but also for the teaching and learning in a distance environment so there'll be a lot of we know for example secondaries had typically had more experience with Google classroom so coaches are thinking about different way to support teachers there Robert you as you're talking about just how Google works we can get a lot better at that I think I've shared it before but if you put you assignment into the calendar it

092gives a student a to-do list yeah well some of our teachers didn't know that was our first time using it but simple things like that where as a parent you can go oh I can go to the to-do list versus you stay going to the bottom of the page yeah I have no criticisms for the way they chose to do their work this last semester none it was incredible just to watch how they're they threw their hearts into it and I'm really glad to hear that they're getting supports to improve it really glad so so if we if we can see what's in the template that probably gives us a sense of kind of but by targeting getting a plan in place and if there's ways to have listening options or opportunities to people and

093even another webinar just kind of talking about okay these are these this is what the plan looks like and then allow people to provide feedback on that somehow ahead of the fourth or that this is you know this even if even if this or III think it I agree that we would be great if we could provide some opportunity for people to provide feedback but I want to see what's in the in the actual template and then we can dig in a little further and figure that out as soon as I get it I'll make sure you have it so we can all see it at the same time I think there are people statewide who are going to be emailing that absolutely everybody once it's released yeah I hope they release it on time

094on the date they said his time is of the essence and we really need it supposed to be the 13th which is Monday okay that's all I've got all right any other questions for Mike O'Brien thoughtful planning all right so we've got a legislative update who's taking this one Mike I mean the only thing I would say is what I already said about the the I think Rob's probably got more just that they're not good the word is they're not gonna have a legislative they don't have a special session I think Rob's probably been on more calls and I shared the work that Melissa's you know providing to try to support with regards to opening schools Melissa John Belski yeah and yeah I know she's involved I've done several Xand meetings with the legislative committee

095over the month of June my calendar just as I look at it it just looks full of legislative committee stuff because in addition to sorting through regular legislative position changes and things for that delegate assembly we're thinking about the emergency and talking to each other about that and the conversation isn't very different there than it is here nobody really knows and everyone wants to know where we need to lead and where we need to follow and we all want that to be very clear I was trying to find the things the State Board of Education is meeting it's in terms of rulemaking it's where was that that's probably in the general updates I actually missed the call last Thursday yeah they were meeting on the eighth and ninth so tomorrow and Thursday virtually to talk

096about instructional hours and days recommendations mastery-based crediting clarification on meeting subject area grad requirements and then flexibility for state history they need probably to ask the legislature for changes in the law for some of that they can do some others with some permissive rulemaking and from SBE as they've talked to members of the legislative committee their questions to us were what a permissive rule benefit you on this or that subject and almost you know entirely if they wrote a rule permitting us to do something and clearing an ambiguity that's a help but I don't know what is going to come of that and I won't be able to attend and watch of course there's no opportunity for feedback in those meetings that I can think of but I'm hoping that they'll give us some greater

097little flexibility I heard the same things that you did it I saw the headline I guess wasn't a Colombian that said that a special session wasn't likely and I had a conversation with Paul Harris yesterday just touching base with him about the moment and they said they believe that they can't constrain the legislature the legislature to just handling the budget emergency and that because they bogged down and other subjects and they want to treat those during the regular session governor said we have enough money until January and so we'll just convenient anyou airy and that but like everything else who knows if the moment changes again and they decide to call a special session I don't I don't know I can't tell neither can he and he's in leadership the legislative assembly itself is still

098scheduled for September and what the the General Assembly on the 24th and 25th and 26th I think it's 25 and 26 it's going to be virtual and that gives all of us that want to attend an opportunity to attend with one set of credentials if you wanted to we could meet as a board and then be voting on positions remotely that way hopefully we're in phase 2 or 3 or enough of the rules are lifted that we could be meeting in person in order to do something like that but plans are still going on for that to be a virtual meeting and be something we could either all attend or either together the way we're attending now and that's that's all I can think of at the moment Paul and I also talked about police

099and schools a little bit there isn't a settled consensus of course on what to do about calls to defund the police or or reduce their influence in the schools a few people have called for SROs to be removed from the schools but and so we talked about how that might evolve in a legislative session and concluded that there's no way to tell how it would involve we just have to start the conversations and have them but I sent you like a boilerplate of a change to our CW's Mike like that last week I think which that came out of a conversation and alleged committee about changing that statute which requires SROs to have a certain block of training to making sure that everyone with security responsibilities had that same training which dovetails so perfectly with

100an equity plan and with cultural competency training and all the things that we're going on and the change in the mandate didn't seem like it would have any cost to us and I think I remember you that was the case yeah we already provide quite a bit but I'm looking at it right now just what you're looking at is an idea not a dropped bill or a proposal for a draft bill but because it was wise to work Marisa Rathbone Mazda the strategic advocate there yeah the way that that's worth it is it's talking about anybody in safety and security so yeah my training if they see they're gonna change the training that we're already doing or it would cost us more money if there were more days that we'd have to train our own

101staff yeah I know that we already have some days that we trade our SRO so it could just be a refocusing of how we do that screaming sure I know melissa has seen it Marissa told me that much Melissa Marisa yeah but they talk to each other and Melissa gave her some recommendations about who to take the idea to and we can just kind of let it float at this point yeah I think that she's just the most part so focused on what's going on with opening schools and what's going on with that that this kind of stuff isn't really on the front burner right now but not that it's it really is but it's not gonna get acted on for a while which is why it's probably not being talked as much by her

102anyway yeah that's nothing it appears is happening until January in the legislature as far as that regular action goes but who knows and that's the report really who knows yeah I agree that's the reward for a lot of stuff right now that's all I have all right anything else for legislative updates all right a debrief that's the last thing that we have on our workshop mute sorry I debrief I it everything went well we yeah I can't wait to get back to meeting in person this is hard it's this is era oh this is the last one hopefully they change the rebate oh yeah yes agreed so how did you guys think it went how was our meeting I I think we're doing it right under these rules and I hope this is the last

103day that we have to use them for the time being if we meet in person in future we're going to have to figure out how to admit people to give comments to us in person or telephonically somehow the time and place rules will return so we'll have to we'll have to have public comment orally and in person somehow but but I think we've met all the requirements and that felt like a normal meeting and maybe that's yeah I mean I guess I'm gonna go back I think I said last meeting but you know if we're really what a month and a half from well maybe a little bit longer than a month and a half when we want you know ideally kids back in classrooms right there's some how some way that our group of

104people needs to be able to meet in person if we can't figure that out I mean it doesn't it doesn't make sense that you know we're expecting our classrooms to get back but we've got to be able to figure out a way to do that too and meet in person so the sooner the better I think that makes some good common sense Julie there's a way for us to put our voices behind some of the things I know was des sent the same letter about the three-foot distancing based on the yeah pediatric Association so the whole states kind of behind that yeah for us to be six feet apart we can wear our masks and we can meet in person I just feel like that would make sense or you know that these meetings to

105resume at some point I mean we have to if we're wanting to get our kids back in the classroom we have to go meet in person I think that that makes good common sense Julie Thanks that's all I got appreciated the comments people send in oh well it's nice to see I'll be easier for them to do that in person as well then oh yes some long long email writing so probably you probably will be easier for none of your own person as well yes yeah agreed til next week yeah Tuesday that's all alright thanks bye and I I