001I'd like to call the March 14th 2024 regular meeting of the isqua school board to order and we'll start with Pledge of Allegiance the first item on our agenda is public comment so uh this is an opportunity for public comment on items not already scheduled for discussion on our meeting agenda tonight and I have a list here so uh the first is and I apologize if I mispronounce your name uh Cassie R Hopper if you would state your name and either your attendance area or your building if you uh don't live in the district hi my name is Casey pranker I'm a current for fourth grade teacher at Creekside Elementary iea member taught for 11 years in this Aqua School District 25 total and have a master's in childhood trauma and resilience tonight you going
002to hear from many experiences from staff and teachers about trauma occurring in our classrooms there has been a district level shift away from consequences as a result students who yell curse throw things hit and engage in fighting are routinely and quickly returned to our classrooms this sets up ongoing behavioral patterns that are unaddressed in the student with externalizing behaviors it leaves the remaining 20 to 30 students at best with their learning regularly disrupted but most often it leaves entire classes feeling unsafe and unable to learn let me be clear this is far beyond one to two students per school this is happening regularly all over classrooms across the district Creekside staff have been utilizing every Avenue to keep students physically and emotionally safe in November a teacher and iea rep wrote an email to superintendent
003taik and the school board sounding the alarm regarding student behavior and Trauma she received an email back from the superintendent design with the implied message to stay in her Lane and talk to our principal there was no response from the school board but the email entitled support for trauma in the classroom was recorded in public record simply as student support another teacher wrote an ISF grant for regulation St stations to support students struggling the grant was denied because because ISF said that there was a districtwide need and this would be addressed by the district the grant was submitted in November and there has been no communication to date wrap up staff and teachers are fighting for a fundamental right physical and emotional safety at school we should not have to fight our own school district
004for this thank you Liz yanev I'm lizan a fourth grade teacher at Creekside Elementary I've been in the district for 20 plus years I'm reading part of a letter a teacher in the district has sent and um I'm just going to read the main part so I stay on time this year I have a student whose behavior that has traumatized an entire classroom of children my students watch us as I've been spit on and touched in inappropriate places they have watched as I have been pushed punched and had thrown at my face my students have been trained that when this starts happening to me to remain at their desks and Duck and Cover to keep themselves safe when necessary unfortunately the tax the attacks are not just directed at me my students have had whole
005bins of books thrown at their heads objects thrown at their eyes and I've watched students be choked tackled held down and stomped on and kissed against their will these young children are being abused on a daily basis and I'm powerless to defend them these behaviors are not an isolation or something that has happened a handful of times this is a laundry list of abuse happens all day every day in our classroom my mental and physical health has plummeted and I am in tears most days of the week every day it is not a question of if I will be abused it's how much will I be abused today I don't recognize this version of myself in the classroom I am disregulated frustrated and struggle to keep up with my responsibility I am unable to teach
006without a child or myself being attacked or my classroom being destroyed my students have started to stick up for themselves and I am proud of them for doing so more heartbreaking than watching them to try to defend themselves is when they try to protect me no child should be put in this situation my students and I have been robbed of our safety and our dignity in the classroom being mentally and physically degraded by student as 20 others hopelessly watch and feeling that bring tears to my eyes and something I never thought I would experience my question is what will you do to protect your teachers but more importantly what will you do to protect our children sincerely a brokenhearted teacher thank you Julie kiss thank you okay okay um I'm coming to you as a
007proud mom of three graduates of isaka school district a proud nearly volunteer of many years in the school district so I've seen a lot um I'm a union rep and I think that the three of us that are speaking are speaking for many across the district not just a few tough scenarios a tough couple of tough schools as a specialist I have worked in the library for 12 years I was a classroom teacher before that so 20 plus years I see growth in my setting from year to year because I have so many kids I see the difference support makes I saw the difference that a PBS es coach could make that coach could come in gracefully see the child who was beginning to get disregulated pull out have a conversation help them get back
008in the zone and back in the classroom the changes that I see in kids Behavior safety is shocking to me I've been around a long time it's it's never been like this Co happened we know that and we're suffering and we're trying to get back in gear but it's dramatic the loss of the pbss coaches has really hit hard now I know the district say well we have a few of them still well I personally feel as a levy person and a taxpayer in the district the pbscs coaches were advertised as part of the levy and then they were nearly the first thing to go after the levy passed I find that embarrassing I'm proud of our district but that was embarrassing I hate to say the word um teachers do receive training in deescalation
009we can take extra training on our own time on our out of our own pocket on deescalation for these kids that are really struggling because we want to meet their needs we know Behavior speaks they want attention power control we want to meet their needs but deescalation training needs to be happening districtwide not just one little workshop because we then have to practice it put it in place one one kid that's so disregulated as Liz mentioned is such a safety issue I've had boots thrown at my head I can't see in all spaces in my library around every corner with the bookcases I feel a responsibility to keep those kids physically safe I can't always do that because I can't see around all Corners would like you to wrap up please okay um so kids
010are coming to school with anxiety that didn't previously have anxiety because they're worried do I need to Duck and Cover we have great admin at our school our principal and Dean fantastic but they get pulled so many times during the day to support and I think that they're struggling to get to their own admin tasks I look at this the Quest for mental health I think that's a great visual kids are struggling it's our job to do better by them I know we're in a budget crisis but we talk about student voice that's the future but what if we ask the kids what would they say would they see would they say I feel safe I think they'd say my teacher cares but she's one thank you Jen Davis hello my name is Jen Davis
011I'm an Apollo teacher and parent this evening I'm one of three teachers speaking on behalf of the isqua Education Association tonight we're here to share our thoughts on behalf of the isqua Education Association regarding the decisions the district and board will be making over the next few months for the 2425 school year budget the Schoolboard and District leaders will have hard choices to make as Educators we know an increase in additional supports including mtss FTE support for student well-being is vital to creating a learning environment where every student can thrive Priority One on the ISD strategic plan addresses the need for student well-being and for students to have access to resources that support their social emotional mental and Behavioral Health our question is how are those supports going to be implemented provided and consistently tracked
012for example when it comes to tracking students Behavioral Health and the impact it has on the learning environment what is the district going to do to make sure all Educators have access to Swiss and are filling it out with Fidelity it's unclear why Educators in ISD receive different messages about what to enter and what not to enter into Swiss to report student Behavior how will the district analyze and refine districtwide school safety plans to include student support when data collection isn't consistently tracked across the district thank you next is Nora Armstrong hi I'm Nora Armstrong kindergarten teacher at isqua Valley Elementary and I'm also a parent of two children on the isqua High School feeder pattern um I work at a school where I have the privilege of having an mtss specialist working with our
013students um supporting them both with academic needs and behavioral needs on both as with both tier one and tier 2 supports they also help our teachers um enters um data into swi Swiss with Fidelity they additionally they coach our staff and they also coach our students this is a continuation um from Jen's previous statement um the impact of student Behavior has grown substantially this is a local State and National concern that isn't being discussed enough if you talk with any educator in this room we can share a personal story of the impact of student behaviors on the learning environment and the concerns we have for our students experiencing and witnessing the behaviors proper Staffing and support of our classrooms can minimize interruptions to teaching and learning that can cause physical or emotional harm to both
014students and Educators by supporting and de-escalating students before disruptive behavior occurs we can make sure classrooms are safe places to teach and learn for everyone what additional support or training um is the district planning to provide when it comes to meeting Priority One of the Strategic plan for our schools who are assigned a full-time mtss specialist they have seen a consistent understanding of how to track data through Swiss along with having the stability of a professional educator with a specialized skills to support um the students by having them receive the resources and support they need along with supporting Educators with different strategies and supports within the classroom environment while the mtss is just one portion of supporting the in the larger support in the larger concern staff has seen how critical mtss Specialists are in
015The Wider School concerns around behavioral supports thank you thank you next is phy Merill hello I'm Haley Merill I'm also from Apollo I'm a new teacher and I'm finishing up speaking on behalf of the Ia membership isqua school districts can afford to do more to support our students right now the district is building up money in the end fund balance that should support and go to Student Learning it's time to invest where it matters most which is not the bank so what decisions does the board want to make with the increase of the end fund balance Educators administrators and families want all students in isqua to get what's the best education for them possible but the district's failure to support students behavioral health is getting in the way of teaching and learning that's why IA
016is calling for the district to invest in additional Staffing training and time for collaborations with teachers we know that with proper support every student can learn and Thrive thank you thank you is there any public input on Zoom NOP already well we encourage you guys to stay for as much of the meeting as you would like so you can hear us chat about various things that I think you would find very interesting uh for us the next item on our agenda is approval of the consent agenda I move the consent agenda be approved as presented second all those in favor say I raise your hand I I I perfect any opposed of all right next item is establishment of the regular agenda are there any changes there no changes to the regular agenda first item
017work study recap so the hour before this meeting started we spent reviewing and talking about uh executive limitation 16 which is our Equity policy wanted to open up for any board member reflections start it was I I found it to be a helpful conversation obviously as a as a new board member um understanding the importance um around the El and in this one in particularly and hearing from the cabinet in terms of how it it drives um so many of the decisions they make so appreciated that I will say too I was excited to hear about um the pro the the program that's in place to really focus in on growing our own um within the district um and uh would love to hear more in terms of how that continues to grow um and
018gain more traction so appreciate the the conversation okay few thoughts um first of all just uh really appreciated the discussion around the robust Equity training that's occurring in the district very heartened to hear that the that focus is broadening um to include lgbtq issues um I was heartened by that that discussion also appreciated the discussion around the challenges around diverse hiring um and I think you know really in that space the key is to keep innovating and to keep trying new things and I'm was very glad to hear that the district is open to those new ideas and to keep trying new things and to make sure that we're trying to you know attract as much diverse Talent as we possibly can so um really fantastic conversation and um one last thing we didn't really
019get a chance to talk about but I did want to comment on I thought in the monitoring report which I we'll talk about a little bit later um lots of great stuff around stakeholder engagement in the community too um which I'm very encouraged by thank you I think for me I I appreciated hearing from staff as to how el16 is talked about daily in their work that they are looking at um for teaching and and learning services that as they're developing their work is they're developing curriculum that is it's in constant um discussion and I think that was the whole purpose and that really is the purpose behind all of our executive limitation is how is it's the board's way of saying these are the things that are important to us and so to hear
020how staff is really utilizing that in all of their work um is uh really really important to hear uh I think from my perspective I'm you know I'm always happy to hear the discussion and the plans for what we want to do to approach uh updates and changes within the the district to better align or execute against policy in this case I was really excited with the result um I think in many cases sometimes I I'm always trying to get to how are we making a tangible difference so I think particularly as you look at the efforts that have been put in place very uh some tried some failed made me happy to even hear about the failures if I'm honest means we're trying um to see that we're making real movement in our hiring
021not just the end hiring um totals of diverse hires we can bring to the system but how we've changed the process how we've changed how we are evaluating candidates who we're Staffing um in the interview process so I'm I'm very pleased with both the update to the approach as well as the up dat to the result which is great um firmly agree with uh director moraldo that getting a sense of hearing how policy is impacting the various departments um within the district is really encouraging I would love to hear that on all of our policies so we're going to keep that as our bar um of attainment but it's it's very heartening to hear that um both the value statement associated with the policies as as well as the individual items that we're we're trying
022to get across as important to the district are taking hold and I'm I'm just really pleased with with the outcome great thank you that's uh it was a great opportunity at the work study to have the board come together with our executive cabinet team in full to be able to um talk a little bit also about the history and the origins of um the equity executive limitation uh and that's an important part of um understanding context to know where we are today but also to know where we can go together uh in the future so thanks perfect uh the next item on our agenda is the board retreat recap so last week we spent all day Monday and Tuesday in this room uh with uh multiple topics uh that generate I think Rich discussion amongst
023the board and I really appreciate our superintendent and her team in all the work that had to be done ahead of time to prepare for that and to send us the information that we needed and wanted to open up for any initial Reflections and knowing that we have secondary Innovation and bond planning updates later in our agenda I'm happy to start um you know I just want to say first of all I just really appreciated the opportunity more than anything to have the time as a new board member trying to absorb a lot of information new information so to be able to have the time to really be purposeful and deep dive into topics I I just found incredibly valuable uh thought we made great progress on a lot of the topics that we talked
024about Bond planning I won't say more uh and brainstorming really around uh ways to continue to improve our homework and Grading policies and um also uh a lot of the discussion about giving some direction in what we want to see out of the secondary Innovation work that the district's doing um and I just thought you know generally we I came out of the retreat thinking that we have a really firm ideas to our top priorities and things that we need to work on over the next three to six months and um gave me you know some clarity of purpose so that was really appreciated thank you well um historically I always say there's no treat in Retreat because we don't go off to some fancy place like a lot of places do but I do
025this time it was a treat it was a treat to spend time with our new board colleagues to get to know each other in a in a different way um so I I think that I did appreciate that there was so much that we talked about and so many things um that we're trying to work towards and and the and the ultimate goal is right up there in our mission but there's so much to do and so many opportunities for us to do something um to really make some changes and so um I appreciate that you know we did we spent a lot of time talking about school Innovation about um homework and um just um there there was two day two full days and it's like I can't even go through all the things
026that we talked about um the social studies and but there's it it's just in a reminder of what we lost is yesterday I think was the fouryear anniversary of the last day of school for nearly a year of in-person school and if I reflect on how that's impacted us there's so much that we haven't talked about and so we got a chance to really spend two full days deep diving into so much of the work that we're about and it's like for me it's like a reminder of how things were when I first started on the board over 14 years ago so I really appreciated the time good I'll I'll just Echo um what uh directors moraldo and and Taylor said too a lot obviously that was uh that was covered um a lot of
027great discussion around secondary Innovation Bond planning things we'll discuss tonight I think one of the things that I know coming into this seat and the community may not necessarily know this either is that because of of limitations in terms of um kind of the structure of the board we technically cannot come together as a body of more than two unless it's we call it a formal meeting and so we don't get the opportunity for the five of us to connect like that um so I just really appreciated that lots of great content but a lot of great opportunity just to connect as a board um which was great so um and you'll hear a lot of what we discussed uh further on this evening um board there is no treat board retreat is funny I
028do have to say that is um it was in this room for two days I I think again I agree with all the things about the riches of the conversation I think maybe a couple topics uh to to hit on is really as we look at um the policies for the school board and how can we modernize I'll use that word as modernize what those policies these are how do we make them more accessible easier um for people to understand and hopefully to get traction out of so we we have started some conversations on how we'll move forward with that which I think was was very helpful I think the more we can do to be transparent just your example of how it is we work I don't think people quite understand understand that part
029so I think it was helpful uh good concentrated time I think it also highlights just the surface area of what it means to understand fully what's going on within the district um even in picking seven six or seven topics to spend quite a bit of time on you don't quite get to the full um surface of what really has to be covered which is why we keep having board meetings I suppose so I think it was um uh frankly really great job of prepping the material for the robust conversation um very clearly laid out and allowed us to uh then facilitate understanding what is as priorities what we do next so I appreciate the time s uh I think I first want to say that I think it was a great opportunity um I mean
030it was I would like to first thank um the board for like giving students also the opportunity to share their voices in this um board retreat session especially on a topic like homework and grading policy which which really impacts students like directly so I feel that that was a great opportunity for me and all the other student reps who um came to this to this meeting um I feel that um this was definitely an eye opener for me as this retreat was an eye eye opener for me I think the data I saw was um pretty surprising a lot of it and I feel that I was I heard like a lot of good Solutions on how to improve like our our homework and Grading practices thank you any other uh Reflections from our student
031board Representatives who were there I always see hand okay uh no oh yes okay awesome um yeah I'd just like to Echo what sidarth was saying as well um I thought that it was a great opportunity for me to understand what uh the majority of students in uh our district feel about homework policies and I thought it was a great opportunity to discuss some of those things in detail um I also appreciated oh sorry um I appreciated uh kind of hearing the perspective from within admin and understanding like the way that like the feedback from teachers and the feedback from students is kind of um contrasted and like talked about and hearing kind of the ideas and strategies that were discussed was really interesting so yeah thank you I would just say that uh I
032appreciate everyone's engagement and I knew there was a lot of hours that had to go into the preparation in order for us to have Rich discussion so thank you all coming ready uh because I think that's a huge part of it uh we had a a very rich parking lot that developed over that time period too and I wanted to highlight the ones that we prioritize as number ones uh category uh and one was uh joining a lawsuit against social media in order to protect our students another one was public comment and I think tonight would be a good example of uh public comment is structured to be anyone can come and speak to the board but it's inherently at times very frustrating for the board bre to feel like how do we how do
033we know that the loop has been closed and that a lot of the concerns that are elevated have been addressed and I think that tonight would be a good example that we want to make sure like we hear you and how do we actually make sure that you feel heard and that's something that came out for us in our retreat uh because that's an inherently uh I think uncomfortable yeah dissatisfying process uh the next one was secondary inovation which we'll get to later tonight and then in that discussion will be pathway Explorations and what do we what are we going to do to reach out and make sure we get really rich input from students parents community members staff uh as we move forward talking about what is the interplay between the 2022 Levy and
034potential 2024 Bond and lastly is the ongoing conversation is what is Mastery or proficiency and what is that mean uh so those were the ones that I just want to highlight into the record of what were the ones that we said we would uh tackle in these next few months and want to open to superintendent uh it was a it was a impact two days of content discussion U and appreciate everyone's uh stamina to engage for the full two days I also want to uh say thank you to many people that are in this room from our administrative team um who prepared in advance to support the board in their discussion um and it is a Surface uh sometimes just a little bit of the surface area that you see and there is much more
035so we're always constantly trying to you know weigh the art of providing the right level of information but then knowing when to go deeper and so that is the dialogue that we continue to be informed by um and appreciate and we appreciate the questions that are asked that allow us to have Direction um from the board and the translation of policy to implementation and um appreciate our students for um their preparation and engagement as well so it was a big effort and it was a meaningful set of conversations thank you and I want make sure highlight Bethany appreciate all the support you did for our Retreat and hurting cats as as well so thank you we really appreciate it uh we could not do this work without you uh the next our agenda is Works
036in progress super tendent okay great so um happy Pi Day it's March 14th there are many ways to celebrate this day but one fun way and actually a lot of fun ways is to actually have real pie being um utilized for activities um I want to highlight uh an event today at Beaver Lake Middle School where principal Katherine coffin and assistant principal Andrew Stevenson were the recipients of actual pie being thrown at them um I've seen the pictures and it looked pretty fun and pretty Messy as well uh many other schools have had different kinds of events or celebrations ranging from um you know any different ways to think about 3.14 dot dot dot as well as actual pies um that you can consume and or um uh throw around so um one goal for
037this year shifting gears um that I wanted to share some you know uh updates on is and also in response to community feedback is that we have all of our ISD preschool programs now under one preschool page on the ISA School District website and the Communications Department was instrumental in getting that launched including one application process for all programs so helping to streamline the um process for preparing our youngest Learners and getting them the educational access that they um they want and need and so this can you know help us then better guide families as they continue to pursue what those options might be for them um in the line of our sort of Young Learners we um there was an amazing science fair presentation at Grand Ridge Elementary School last night and I had
038a sneak peek and uh wanted to tell you that I love the real word world inquiry that was um used and and then the hypothesis testing that was also done as a as a result there is one favorite uh display that I saw although I didn't get to um talk to the student who created but there was a question of which um paw for my dog is most dominant and it was a test between left and right paw and there was a lot of tests and it ended up being 50/50 uh there is no dominant paw for for their their dog again real world inquiry and real test on hypothesis um moving up the uh levels in terms of Middle School um this week we have mve forward with our middle school math adoption work
039and the team reviewed feedback from students and teachers during some field testing on two finalist curricula and the team selected um enVision Math by Savas so that is news here and there is 100% consensus that this program will provide a rigorous engaging math curriculum with resources to meet the needs of all students the team is now turning its attention to developing the scope and sequence training process um overall and implementation I'll move to high school now um and recently I have some great news from Liberty High School in njrc program uh our Cadets who are part of the Patriot company won their 18th consecutive drill meet and they also claimed the 23- 24 overall Puget Sound division championship and this is the fourth consecutive year that the Patriot company has been crowned the division championship
040um in that last competition there were seven other schools that participated with over 200 Cadets and tomorrow uh we will be taking our well our team uh will be taking nine teams and 50 Cadets to Oregon City to compete for the Northwest drill and um uh conference Championship and so to my knowledge the Patriot company has never won the conference Championship so wishing them good luck tomorrow hoping to hear great news over overall so yeah that's really of a hand hand waves um moving to our system level work of what we're doing to support all of our Learners um at our monthly all administrator meetings we do a variety of different professional development and this year we have been focusing on Universal Design for Learning leadership series and we've now completed five sessions of a
041six-part series on developing capacity for universally designed instruction in these different sessions principles have focused on how to lead their staff into new ways of thinking about teaching new processes for planning instruction that are more inclusive and culturally responsive and how to engage teachers in goal setting for integrating high impact instructional strategies from the Universal Design for Learning framework um as we continue to connect this work to um serving all Learners with all the diverse needs that they have and the diverse thinking that they bring and as part of our strategic plan um it is an opportunity for our schools to come together under the leadership uh of of uh the whole District but also in school teams to take the next steps in their commitment to both inclusive and culturally responsive education in every
042classroom uh some other just key announcements and updates on the business and operations front um I'm pleased to share that we completed the third uh bond refunding that we've been um had the opportunity to do over the past year and a half and this transaction occurred on Tuesday um the refunding was for 2014 Bonds in the amount of about 44.6 million and that will um translate into a save savings to taxpayers of about 5.5 million over the next um 7 years and this refunding met all the board parameters that were stipulated in a resolution that was um presented at the January 25th board meeting of this calendar year and again this is now the third refunding in the last year and a half and the second in the last four months and the total taxpayer
043savings from all three of these refundings is just over $10 million we also facilitated the fourth meeting of the bond advisory committee um this past week and you will hear more about that later this evening or very shortly just after this um in our community we have the nourish every mind Showcase in luncheon coming up in on March 28th at the isqua community center it is an amazing opportunity to celebrate the 25 years of this event showcase the impact of the isqua schools Foundation many years more of marshalling resources across the community to further support our students and in closing I will just remind everyone that yes tomorrow March 15th is a school day any questions for our superintendent well you may be think I have one uh was there any update from the Middle
044School sports test course uh yes and um the Middle School task force uh Middle School athletics task force concluded their work and have provided a series of thoughts and recommendations for what we um can be thinking about for next year including the you know uh Hot Topic of soccer and there was a recommendation of bringing that sport on there's many more recommendations so I don't want to go into full detail on that one and uh we'll we'll take it under advisement and maybe continue to bring forward maybe in a future meeting just some of those highlights um to share with the community and as we go through budgeting as well thank you any other questions for our superintendent all right thank you the next item on our agenda is secondary Innovation and Career and Technical
045education update superintendent great I'm excited to welcome both um well two members they'll introduce themselves Lisa and Julia uh but really to help us see the pathway for how we can leverage both Innovation and our current you know work and history as well as our career and techn tecal education offerings to help our district go from great to Greater um we have a huge opportunity you know as we continue to always think about the lessons of all the different Sparks of innovation that have always existed in our district um through individual teacher practice to Gibson e um to the foundings of our of our district itself to become part of the normal business routine and normal business Rhythm and we also have an incredible amount of um Career Technical UC ucation uh offerings that we
046can build upon and our our unique opportunity here is really about the connection to the work of the bond advisory committee and considering what immediate changes we would want to make on a capital facilities level to ensure we are setting ourselves up for um making a greater connection between the work that we are doing for Career and Technical education and preparing our students for the um future be successful um in this next potential Bond resolution and package so excited to hear more about that work and hear the discussion of the board so um over to you all thank you superintendent talak and direct board of directors I'm Julia Bamba principal on special assignment leading secondary Innovation and I'm joined by Lisa neighbors the CTE director for the isqua school district okay our purpose for tonight
047is to clarify and review some in The Innovation efforts discuss CTE and then also provide some direction on next steps as as well as provide some time and space for you to discuss as we look at the problem s that we are aiming to solve with Innovation we want to continue to preserve our strong Legacy of robust academic programming while evolving as the world continues to change our data um observations and the rapidly evolving world of work requires us to focus on a more seamless connection between what our students are learning in school and the connection to their future lives we also want to provide learning experiences and choices across all of our district schools that support all students thriving now and into to their future we really believe that this is a time for
048us to be able to go from great to Greater Thea school district has always been a leader in Innovation let's start with the graduates graduates in 1911 who were three female graduates and brought um Community from across the region to celebrate and attend their graduation and they were an inspiration at that time for younger youth in their graduation another example of innovation in the district is our scitech program while launching at the time was very Innovative and then now has become an opportunity a long-standing opportunity for students in our elementary schools with strong Community Support while we seek inspiration from our past history and other Innovation efforts of the district we also have to continue to look forward and look ahead um to make sure that we are truly understanding what our students must be
049able to learn and do for their future for example here are some skills from uh for 2025 identified by the world economic Forum um understanding and providing opportunities for our students to not only learn these but practice and apply them across multiple opportunities in the district is very important um we know that our CTE teachers are doing an excellent job of this and um EMB betting these skills throughout their courses So Lisa can share an example of what we see that happening um sticking with the of going from great to Greater students in our CTE courses are employing so many of these skills every day so for example our Sports Medicine students spend time interning on the sports Fields during events with the athletic trainers um they assist in evaluating and rehabilitating athlete injuries as
050they occur um through this process the students are demonstrating skills such as critical thinking and Analysis reasoning and problem solving and utilizing uh service orientation so these are just a few of the many soft skills our partners in business and industry have indicated are important for students to demonstrate when they enter the workforce uh we teach but we teach more than just the soft skills in our courses uh projected labor market demand and wage data ensure that we're preparing students with the hard skills to succeed in a career that will be in demand and provide a livable wage this allows each individual to thrive on their own given path uh the Washington stem labor data dashboard and Washington's Employment Security Department data are my personal go-to tools to find this information not only are we
051looking at the labor market um District data and our Workforce data but we're also continuing to engage with our community um at this point here is where Innovation as superintendent T um stated a little bit earlier where Innovation um where our community engagement efforts and now the bond advisory committee are beginning to intersect here's an overview of where we are in the input Gathering and engagement um and the purpose of those efforts this just shares an overview of that work that I've shared with you prior um and a reminder of where we are and we continue to engage with our community um and are continuing to look forward at at the to the bond advisory committees for this work what we are hearing from our um through these engagement efforts are closely aligning with what
052we observe what our research is showing us and telling us um we'll continue to bring forward examples of how we can work to meet the needs of our students and our community as we continue in this work so there are many levers and opportunities for school Innovation connected to the how and the um the what that students learn as well as the climate in which they they learn um some of these opportunities might be shortterm um and quick ability to to um Implement um smaller efforts while some of these might be much l larger systemwide efforts that are much more longterm an example of how students learn a system and structure examples we have many examples here are just a few um one is the flexible use of a three period block potentially after lunch
053another example that has emerged from some of our Innovation tours as well as during one of our design sprints was having a January term for deep exploration and credit earning opportunities for students connected not only to student interests but also connected to real world and problem based learning another example is earning credentials upon graduation through course choices and again the partnership between what students are learning in school and then the community experience as well uh here's a summary of some of the things that we heard during the March 4th board retreat and um curious if you have other thoughts or Reflections as you look through this is your desire to pause here and have some board Reflections and discussion now or wait till we get through your present um that's up to you so talk
054some more about this and then go on to do the rest of the CTE pathway discussion is thats great okay uh open up for uh for thoughts reflection anchoring on sort of our Retreat discussion and sort of moving on I think for me what I would like to have the district hopefully leave this conversation with as we move quickly through this is sort of trying to find some boundaries of the Box uh because right now they've started with the whole universe and I think the more we can give realistic boundaries I think it'll be helpful and I love that you really uh started it and grounded it in the academic Excellence that is our district today so with that want to open up to report um again you know Julia I want to thank you
055because you led a great discussion during our board retreat on this too and I I think it gave us some good food for thought around this topic and I think um I appreciate Heather's comments too and kind of great to um going you know great to Greater I you know I think as we think about our district now and what we're doing this idea just kind of rounds it out it adds more to um our current curriculum it adds more to our options um you know I think a lot too with our our high schools they all have kind of their unique ecosystems and sort of Their Own environments and I I Envision us continuing to keep that while also leaning into Innovation too and I think there's somewhere we can kind of find a
056happy medium with that too so excited about all this I mean I think you know there's so many great things and we look at um what different schools are doing different school districts in Julia I know you shared some different options you know that or or case studies with us too that were helpful to see um to give us some perspective as well so those are my initial thoughts a sure um this is hard I mean it is it's hard work when you consider just the I think the need or desire to want to preserve you know our tradition of academic excellence in the in the district but at the same time innovate um that's I think a a difficult you know balance to try to find and I think the things that I keep
057hearing anyway are this desire for more relevant Real World experience I mean that just keeps coming up over and over and over again um and um finding ways for our students to have more interaction with adults in the work that they're doing so I think you know I just think we're going to have to be very purposeful when asking what exactly is it we're trying to accomplish I mean those are very you know those are very broad statements that making so at some point we're going to have to really start to hone down what are the objectives here how are we going to provide that in the district and how radical of change is going to be necessary to accomplish what of those things are so and I know this is where Dr Mullin and
058I don't align as much as I love her uh but I do think that it would be in our interest to start focusing on certain grade levels and while maybe someday we could get to be inclusive of six through 12 I think starting somewhere would would be would be helpful and you know I think one of the things that I think came up in the board retreat that I I don't think that I fully appreciated was uh for me where academic excellence and and Equity come together in my mind is Ure that every one of ouru high school students has that foundational knowledge and skill set to be able then to choose a pathway that they're passionate about and so not only from academically but also culturally and and social emotionally to be able to
059come up with their cohorts through their respective middle schools into a high school uh through feeder pattern and then be able to have us more broadly think about what 11 and 12 look like that's what for me I think having two high schoolers and as what I heard just director Taylor say like how do we bridge this maintaining academic excellence and not have Innovations be seen as a a scary thing but seen as a something exciting to embrace is a new Option and what I hope comes through this this isn't just this isn't for students who are not going to college every single one of our students will benefit from career exploration and elevating the importance of CTE for all students and for all Pathways Beyond High School whether it's Career College military or Workforce
060would be really important and beneficial so I I um I like the turn between our last conversation I guess the honing maybe between the last conversation and this one on being more directionally about uh skill building career uh Readiness um earning Readiness maybe I'll call it that versus career readiness at an earlier point in our cycle I think that makes sense and I think it starts to direct what we may do from a program and investment perspective we do absolutely disagree on um the timing of this I feel very strongly that if we're talking about secondary we got to talk about seventh and eth I think that um we are under stimulating middle schoolers and and not setting them up for the amount of exploration that is possible at that age and then waiting to
061waiting till 11th and 12th to me feels like so late in the game um but I think it's an and not an or um and we can it can also be a staging right I'm not I think all all the things have to be met I just I will just uh spiritedly support a focus of more exploration more choice at uh earlier Ages Every Day I'm allowed to do that I think we're we're waiting far too late um in that process but that's neither here nor there because I think at some point we're going to cover that whole Spectrum 7 to 12 and for for me you know we'll figure out the speed s to eight you know I'd like to go first but um but I do appreciate I think if we can hone
062in on what we're thinking about which is about um how all of our students have an opportunity to experience Real World experience to in experience employability whether that's intern or paid in some way while in high school I think some of the options that you have in here around making different space in the day is critical to making that happen um because I think just based on how we lay out our credit structure today and based on how the time goes now having a senior leaving knockwood and an eighth grader coming into high school now for me I think I really do want to look at how the day is structured that we're allowing that exploration throughout the time our students are going through their full secondary experience um so I do like the examples
063that you have in here about what that might mean for restructuring the day I also am super encouraged by the inclusion of the hard Workforce data I feel like in looking again having one leaving and one coming in just did the Zello assessment of what he's meant to be doing I think balancing that with real growth in fields and real earning potential is something that we need to put into the process I want them all to be professional athletes I do but if we can balance that it would be great to be maybe a couple of other things as well this helps us do that I think in a in a better way so I I I'm very encouraged by that inclusion along with the dreaming and I hope we get a couple of pro
064athletes I want to so um I I love that inclusion thank you CH Moralo yeah I I really appreciated that data as well um I am somewhere in between Sydney H director Mings and director gallinger in that I think 9th to 12th is probably a good place to focus our attention now but I but I agree one of the things is you know we talk about what our culture is and our culture is a you know a um academically rigorous district and so many of our seventh and eighth graders are starting on high school focused curriculum that I don't think it's a a a stretch uh to go into seventh and eighth grades to start talking about Pathways especially if they're elevating their um their academic rigor that early they're probably thinking about careers that
065they want to go into as well and so where will that take them what kind of pathway do we have information I think was really important the information that we received it's not in the packet so the public doesn't see it but the breakout of what students are interested in and I thought that was a be that would be a really good pace place to start looking at what are those major Pathways I was stunned by how much art creative art whether it's drama singing band um artwork to be able to say to look at are there opportunities to for us to really focus magnets at the different schools so that we would keep the rigor I think there's a lot of rigor behind all of that but if we want to get into you
066know someplace that where there's the focus is on cyber security computer systems that type of work where even what kind of certifications can come out of that you know you can you be Cisco Network certified which I know is something that if you want to do you have to be part of the wanic program and go to Newport High School to get so are there are there ways that we can take that data of students that were are interested in large segments and create magnet programs at each of the high schools I think that it really kind of parsed out that data so that what that's what I would be looking for what was interesting in your presentation is looking at this three period block I had not considered that I you know I know
067that we've blocked things like um language arts and and social studies in like middle school and one of the high schools but is there an opportunity to really do some of this blocking so that students can um can experience several different items related to the pathway that they're interested in so I thought that was interesting yeah sart I actually heard from my brother um he was given the opportunity to do this but like um like he was given the opportunity to have like four first four periods or something at school and like um final three periods he would go out and do something and I think like director moraldo said I think it was in place of his English or social studies class something like that um so I actually was wondering like how like
068whatever we were doing outside like how would you make sure that um the students who do this program are still getting the English and social study skills um that they would have gotten at school yeah and like is this like is the way they're going to get it like would be different from what what it is in school yeah um SAR thank you for bringing up that as an example um an example of one way that we can explore different options to do that um so in an example where you are learning through interdisciplinary courses maybe through a three-hour block um we connect that learning to the skills such as the common core or nextg science standards and then students are learning maybe in the in the community and then collecting evidence of their learning
069or working on projects that are D directly connected to the skills that they may be learning in a classroom but it's just approaching it a little bit differently great I think we've set you guys up for the successfully for the next step say that perfect connection that you've made between Innovation and a very strong connection to CTE programming so I'm going to let Isa take on talk through CTE right excellent um uh so we're just going to kind of talk through a little bit of the connection between CTE and Innovation is Julia mentioned a moment ago um so to start with I thought it would be a good idea I'm frequently asked by people who are unfamiliar with CTE What on earth does that even mean um so just to make sure we're all on
070the same base here uh Career and Technical education the acronym for which is known as CTE these courses prepare students for the workforce across a wide range of uh Industries and occupations uh what drives CTE so as a reminder for those who have not seen this before uh this slide was present at the August board meeting and it's just demonstrates the driving force behind CTE programs the goal of which is to inhabit the overlap between student interest student career goals and projected employment demand so this is some of the data that was alluded to during the board conversation um you can see this data from zel and the Washington State Employment Security Department students save their favorite careers in one of the Z lessons so right now that lives in the eth grade um it
071will it will move next year uh then we use that data to inform career Pathways that might be considered for addition to course cataloges so here in the third column over you can see the projected employment demand through 2031 um asterisk on professional athlete there were so few jobs that using the percentage made it seem like a really profitable career so I had to change that one two plus two over seven years um so 2031 is the approximate time in which many high school students will be joining the job market and then the fourth column uh contains the median wage data because we want our courses offered to reflect student interest the ability to get a job and to have a livable wage um so as we move through this presentation the CTE options you
072might consider are being provided at the Career Cluster level within the Career Cluster multiple cluster Pathways may be found and this provides many options for CTE courses and Pathways under each Career Cluster so this is again a reminder of the Career Cluster under which the isqua school district already offers courses this both at the middle and high school level um and another reminder that Career Cluster is defined at the federal level so when we think about career Pathways it's important to remember that each individual has their own personal assets interests and goals which contribute to the path they wish to take into their future uh we want to connect the student interests to High School courses and their plan Beyond High School whether that includes any post high school training or even going directly into
073the workforce or the military you're on it CTE courses 21 excellent uh so here are some options within one career pathway that we have if a student wanted to become a school counselor for example they might take a course sequence during high school that could include Child Development AP Psychology and teaching Academy 1 the series would allow the student to further explore their field field of Interest including uh accumulating a few college credits and decide yes I love this and I want to keep going after high school or no I really hate kids and this is not the right field for me um so either result is really valuable to the individual as their likes dislikes and interests evolve over time to promote Student Exploration of their intended Pathways it would be beneficial to consider
074some areas in which the district could potentially enhance or add CTE options so there are a variety of sample Pathways to consider but rather than trying to have you read this tiny writing on this slide can we pause you for a minute yes can you go back two slides back slid Bo question this one yes thank you so in today's world as you described a um the student would be interested in a certain pathway and they would take I'm going to use the word sampling of these courses and they're making um s some determination of Interest right along the way do I want to keep going or do I want to stop and what you said was that they'd have a couple they'd have some college credit and they could decide if they want to
075go on so one of my hopes is that what you're going to say in the next section or what's possible in the future so I want to say it now to see if it could happen is that if we know along that pathway what the entry level uh to director moralo's point the entry level certification or requirement is it's a health care pathway and maybe the student wants to be a doctor but they could potentially become a CNA or something very um early on how do we get how do we get to that point so that it's actually possible to get there not just interest but an early accomplishment I don't know I'm TR I'm my brain keeps saying certification I don't know if that's always a credential stacking some sort of credential so that
076they could actually leverage that to put themselves through or put themselves through high school or whatever that might the rest of high school yep yeah so in the the latter part I will talk about a few uh certification options that we could add via some of the expansions that are possible okay uh we go to the next one excellent um so the presentation I'm just going to narrow the focus a little bit to a handful of Career Cluster options the options I'm presenting today for your consideration are based on the same type of data so you can see that here that we looked at just a moment ago um this considers the overlap between student interest labor market demand and livable wages uh so one option might be to expand the Health Sciences we already
077have very robust sports medicine programs in our schools right now uh but expansion could open opportunities for students to explore career paths in Nursing Pharmacy um I've talked to people who have medical assistant apprenticeships with the potential to add these certifications in nursing assistant um and or provide progress towards a pharmacy technician certification uh another option could be to expand the network systems cluster Network systems cluster pathway under the information technology Career Cluster that's a mouthful uh this could provide students exposure to the Cisco networking certifications that Mar uh director moraldo mentioned um shortly a moment ago uh with the potential to expand into Cloud Computing Services such as Amazon web systems or other such things as demonstrated by the student interest data uh there's a large number of students who are interested in pursuing
078engineering careers in a variety of fields there are also 172 students interested in industrial design 41 students who are considering becoming welders and 11 interested in operating various manufacturing machines the potential to expand the manufacturing and stem uh area could allow students to experience the whole process from product design and Manufacturing all the way through assembly so they get a a broad understanding of that process uh currently two of our ISD high schools provide access to woodworking courses if the decision were made to expand that we could add core Plus construction which would provide students a pre-apprenticeship opportunity and give them an advantage over the other over other students to access a construction apprenticeship or other apprenti ships because a PRI Apprentice ship gives you a Lego um don't move yet if we added an
079automotive repair technician course there's potential to add the ASE entry level certification for automotive technicians or if Collision Repair was pursued the ASC entry level certification for collision repair and refinish and ASC means Automotive Service excellence and and finally as a former agriculture teacher I know that careers in the agriculture foods and natural resources cluster are wide ranging many students today are concerned about environmental issues if courses and Pathways were added within this Career Cluster it could open the door to experience Pathways such as natural resource systems and environmental service systems expanding opportunities for students to explore their areas of Interest okay can pause here for just a moment if there are any other questions that you'd like to discuss um or any Pathways questions for Lisa and we have one more slide after this
080so just being mindful of time can you just go to the next slide then sure so for um next steps for us specifically um is that we're working on launching a thought exchange very soon that would go to students first um collecting their interest and their um you know just things that they think around passion and their future career aspirations um and then sharing that out with the community including staff and parents and community members to have them add on to that thought exchange as well um we're also as I said earlier working with the bond advisory committee and then um narrowing and identifying our key initiative areas and working on an implementation plan into the future thank you I think I'll away from backwards to the last slide I would say that when you
081do the thought exchange please send out or if you can't embed like the workforce data so students can see that like before they're commenting that way they're making informed comments and commentary on each other because one of the benefit of thought exchange is you can build on the dialogue amongst participants I students but I think it'd be helpful for them to know like what is the universe of possibility that's realistic because well yes we we do want to sort aspiring professional out we also want to support them in their alternative Pathways to success so uh yeah with that I wanted to open up uh for board dialogue touch on that too um to kind of tack on to to because I think that information is helpful for students but I think it's also helpful for
082our families for parents to see that too because obviously parents particularly um you know with students in the K through 12 system obviously they have a lot of poll and control over what direction their student goes and a student may have a passion in a certain area it'd be good for parents I think to be able to see this is the direction the work firsts is going and maybe to think a little bit outside the box too and supporting their kids so I think that would be and I don't know if there's any dialogue in terms of maybe getting more of this information out the workforce data information out to parents there we consider that is that a question yeah I guess it's it's a it's a comment but then also question just wondering if
083there is some opportunities to get this in front of so in Zell right now um we recently sent out to every Guardian in our system um zela Family invitations and within zope families can uh families parents uh and caregivers can get in and look at the different careers and they have wage data embedded and I think there's employment data but I'd have to double check that okay it might be good I remember because my daughter was recently going through that um uh she's she'll be a rising freshman next year um it might be good if there's an opportunity just to highlight that for families I think that information is just so enlightening I mean we're seeing it but a lot of families you only know what you know and to be able to see this
084changing Workforce is useful because again parents influence their their children so thank you yeah uh hello uh I was just curious when you mention like getting input from the community um how are you going to be uh connecting with the general public that isn't like the students or their parents who are like in the workforce I guess as well we have a few different levers that we can use um the first is that the CTE department has a um pathway advisory committee so we already meet with um industry Partners in the community to talk about what our courses include uh including both hard and soft skills and where we might go the future in order to make sure that the skills we're teaching students are staying relevant to current industry and um another way I
085we did have some community members that were attended like our design Sprints and so as the thought exchange goes out to staff and parents and families and Community than people that are subscribed or they can also participate in the thought exchange that way great uh other Dr m yes so your your second piece got got to exactly what I was asking I'm curious um in some of those examples that you gave whether it's the automotive or the healthcare one have you have you done any look already and it may be coming up so just curious on whether getting to that point of the certification you mentioned fits within the room we have within our current credit structure current credit structure I mean the 20 the core 24 plus the electives is there asking do students
086have the capacity in their schedule to takeing classes corre we know that yet I know that could be future exploration yes so I know that as uh a couple of them yes so um the construction one uh is actually a state level curriculum um and it offers equivalency in um English science and third-year math so a student could potenti take this it's a three three credit course they could potentially take that in place of their English science and third year math in their junior year and so yes that builds in the ability to get to get the double crediting at one time um as far as the other ones are concerned I would have we would we would take a look at what we were teaching but there's potential that we could offer equivalencies for
087those as well so that students could get the two for one crediting perfect thank you and uh if you're asking on sort of board input on Pathways for me I I can't see us not having a pathway for Health Sciences as well as for information technology I mean those to me seem like no-brainers that should yes go make happen uh I would love to see us do the manufacturing and stem one that seems really fascinating to me and I would love to make sure we have space for our trades and construction and apprenticeship uh I think that's a really important one and whether that includes yes or no for automotive and would work like that's right I for do you as the expert to know blend of you know what a student interest is there
088enough interest to be able to generate class sizes for us to be able to do this and then what sort of Partnerships and Pathways exist realistically for them to do uh so and you would have the benefit of be on all to lean on our surrounding districts like soqu me and home and Bev as well as wan to see like is there enough enrollment to support that and if what you know maybe we become a wanic site for some of these professional trades but given how much there is a need in King County that Workforce I would say those are underestimated numbers as far as the workforce needs um so great just just one point on that I think I I think there's a facilities component to this as well which we obviously should be
089thinking about right now when we're talking about Bond so I'd be really curious to know is how much would it does it cost really to do these things well we're going to do them we want to do them well so that's that would be you know potentially a determinating factor if one of these things is so astronomically expensive in order to build out the facilities that will obviously be a consideration so I just be interested in knowing that when the time comes in the process yeah the time the process is happening with the intersection with the bond advisory planning right now on the work so it's a great question that's all thank you Mia did you have Push I sorry I didn't see your hand spping back to the Zell thing but um I remember
090the other day my dad was like what is this Zell thing like do I need to sign up for it um he didn't really understand what it was for so I think we say this a lot but making that um communication more accessible you might think oh all you have to do is Google what is Zell but I think sometimes um making it just as easy as possible for the community to understand what their resources are is always the best couldn't agree more yeah Dr Co I guess just a basic question do we have the sense and I know obviously working with other partners on this but do we have the sense we actually have Educators teachers who would be able to teach some of this expanded content or how or do we have recruitment
091efforts I know this kind of tied into some our 16 conversations we were having earlier in terms of recruiting I know you'd mentioned the connection with recruiting directly into CTE programs but could you elaborate on that maybe kind of curious yes so finding CTE instructors is a challenge um so often what happens is we I search I talk to people in the community um many of our connections will come through our pathway advisory committees um people who like working with kids maybe they do some sports coaching or something and so they have a little bit of experience of what it feels like I will talk to those people and try and see if they are interested in applying for a teaching job um so for example for like Automotive I would go find an automotive
092technician that maybe I've gotten a reference for and and talk to them about what teaching might look like and then we just walk them through that certification process would you mind I I sometimes Envision a lot of people are listening to our board meetings but I know they're not but curious and this is this is for me but maybe for other community members who might have interest what does that path look like so you're you know you have this skill set you're interested in becoming a teacher what would that look like yeah so there's um so somebody who's interested in transitioning into teaching out of Industry what they would need to do is they would need to complete a CTE teacher preparation program um and in order to find those they could contact me here
093at the district and I would be happy to walk anybody through those I get I get a couple of emails a month I'd say about people who are interested in uh becoming CTE teachers um and then I kind of I will send them the list of programs in the state of Washington and explain the process for the district because we can hire them before they have their full CTE credential um we just provide them with an emergency credential for the the Gap time and then uh once they're on then we just keep right on going roll it's helpful thank you yeah just follow then how long does the credential take the C yes also an excellent question it varies based on the program you go to um and also your experience um so the longest
094it would take if you're going full-time is about two years and that includes the practicum portion um and the shortest it takes if you're going full-time ER Central Washington has a summer intensive program that takes eight weeks and then you also have to have the practicum in the fall but that's for basic education teachers who are adding a CTE endorsement thank you J Mar you know I do think for me I I appreciate how kind of streamlining to what some of these pathways are especially those that might already have a curriculum that we can plug and play that is very helpful um and my two thoughts is one definitely around construction and architecture um the construction industry uh you know I don't know that we're going to have robots building houses and buildings anytime soon
095and it's a market that where people are aging out um and as my son's going through this now um it would have been very beneficial just to even have the opportunities you know when he interviewed for the apprenticeship program they're asking him what projects have you done on your own you know have you used power tools and some things and he's like no I haven't and um you know now he's going through a two-year program in order to get into an apprenticeship and so I you know for me it was we didn't know what the barriers were what the process was for him to begin working on that sooner um and I you know kind of that I wish I would have known because he's lost seven years outside of high school and now he's
096just starting to do this and so um I you know I still look back my number one purpose is the the 30% of kids that are not going to a four-year institution where are they landing and for those going directly into the workforce so many of them Landing in food service industry retail industry what can we do to provide them Sydney I loved your phrasing where he like income preparation um for them because many of those jobs do not have a solid income for them anytime soon unless there's other things are doing on the pathways I still go back to my earlier comment I do feel there is an absence of anything related to the Arts and with so many of our students that are really driven towards that is there a pathway that we
097can really talk about or is it that each art segment is so broad that it's really hard to create a pathway and that that really does need to be more of a magnet program where you get some of those really artsy kids that get to be with each other so as far as the Arts are concerned it's it's we we do have a couple of media arts courses um and when you're talking about demand for Workforce that's where it really lies is with the media arts wanted obire superintendent and your team to make sure are you getting answers or head nodding or anything that you're wanting or not oh there we gonna I do I just want to follow up on that last point about the media arts and just make sure maybe pre press
098a little on um the boundaries of things that media arts is for sure a CTE world and employability through CTE but I think um fin s has quite a lot of employability and so I guess I just want to go back to that a little bit and say are you answering that from the vantage point of CTE because we would need to I guess take a different path to Fine Arts because there's a lot of people working in Fine Arts today I mean I'll go ahead and share is that is the work and the research and the um work that we're doing around Innovation where CTE is a very robust and incredible program that we have and offers some opportunities then our re you know continuing to look at other opportunities outside of CT is
099is important in this work as well so yes exploring and finding that out is what is part of the work that we're going through now okay because I just wanna I just wanna I don't want that one to get lost maybe lost because CTE covers so much of what we're curious about I have a Nissan Broadway today like there's a lot of people working in Fine Arts and making great livings there's lots of working artists and artist programs all across the country so if that's a different path that's great I just don't want to lose that because that is a demand of um what our students are looking to get into so maybe we need a little Fine Arts bubble along with my seventh and eighth grade yeah just saying we'll share that the interdisciplinary
100connection there with engineering or set design and construction and performance all comes together beautifully so there's a lot of potential there art so just you know there's a lot it's a really good point I mean isqua is a Arts District you know recognized by the state and I think that there is actually a burgeoning there is a burgeoning Arts Community just right here right here which is often not understood overlooked and I think there's lots of opportunities there so I could fully support what you're saying great so we I mean I I what I hear is that the sampling of CTE Pathways and connection to our fa facilities the uh various samples provided tonight are uh worth continuing to explore and to bring forward as we continue to look at our current facilities but layering
101in some more data both on actual demand uh a little bit of the marketplace view of where that might also exist in neighboring districts and what lessons we have from that combined with also um then sort of what is the ease of implementation and what those costs might look like and those are the kinds of next step of data to support whether or not we prioritize one two three or more and that conversation will come back to multiple spaces not only the board but also as part of the bond advisory committee work um so I hear green light to continue to explore this and then I hear a bit I a very strong voice here too from at least three board members and some head nods it looked like from other board members around ensuring
102that we don't lose a thread of the creativity process that can be applied to many things but in particular the actual profession of um Music Theater uh performance arts uh other kinds of Visual Arts as well um not just media art so um worthy and that's part of I I can share that my designs one of the design Sprints that I did attend one of the younger Learners and that design Sprint was very much focused on making sure that school was all about creative arts and that was her concept and prototype so that is one voice of course among many but uh we don't want to lose that voice as we think about Innovation at large and we will always continue to have the topic of innovation and how it can do more continue to
103Foster um spaces and learning that equip our students to pursue their passion and to have both a livable wage and a full and meaningful career as you guys go forward slide 23 which lists uh industry certification and you've mentioned credentials if we can make sure that our Pathways and all future discussions have those anchored so we know what the destination is I think it will help us keep line asight about what we're doing where we're going as well as our community uh and all of our staff so thank you for this discussion we really appreciate it nice job which leads us into the money part of the conversation I guess everything costs money so y uh the next item is Bond planning update great I just very excited we had a we had a really
104great um uh Bond advis committee meeting this past week um LED and facilitated by co- captains of the bond advisory committee uh Martin tney and Lea Engles and supported by many team members and in particular Tom Mullen so uh I just want to say that the we have received really positive feedback on the shifts that we have made in the structure purpose and process of our advisory committee and I remember this this board talked a lot about the from two changes that we were um naming as part of our process to really develop strong you know engagement but thought process from the members of that committee um that is we're seeing signs of success based on their feedback so I'll turn it over to the team okay uh again Martin tney chief of finance and
105operations joined by Leisa Engles and Tom ows tonight I'm GNA test this again I do it all right I might need to in advance because it's not thank you so our purpose is to give you a recap of the most recent meetings we talked about the first meeting uh a little while back so we're going to start with the second meeting um going to review some of the highlighted areas that we may consider uh through the bond advisory committee um they're really highlights it's not an extensive list but uh potentially get your input and thoughts on that um provide overview of an engagement and Communications plan and then um preview the upcoming meeting uh of the committee so meeting number two uh really we had the opportunity to go through some of the Strategic plan
106areas and talk about how um we think of that as a district and how that ties in potentially to our facilities and the work that we do we also got to have a very unique uh student voice session so we got to hear from students which was excellent uh you get to hear uh how it's being experienced um from that level and then um we talked through Safety and Security and early learning as well so brought in our experts in those areas to give that presentation and I will point out in these slides for anyone who's uh watching or have access to this we've linked to the minutes and the documents in these slides so if anyone's interested in clicking on that they can get the full slide deex from these meetings and look at
107all the the detail for those oh okay so meeting number three we stepped away from some of the you know foundational or informational when it comes to our programs and really really needed to talk about um some issues that have um were timely we did start with some um showing of recent election and what uh you know some of our neighbors and around the state if their bonds passed or didn't pass and what that looked like we had we started with um someone to come in and give us some detail on the clean buildings act what it means timelines um you know some of the kind of things you need to do to become compliant and um and what it looks like and then we really um started into um a week prior to this
108meeting there was an audit finding that came out so we wanted to make sure that we grounded the uh committee and what it meant so we went through the details of that what the district's doing about it um which led into a conversation about our 2016 bonds and the funding related uh and then of course one of those projects um that was on that Bond being the the new High School uh so we had made sure to take the time to go through that in detail with the committee members because it's a very important part of what we're going to be talking through and it has an impact on the discussion so that was meeting number three meeting number four was just this past Tuesday um we got to get an overview of special services
109and activities in athletics which I think went very well and we had some very nice um information and pictures for folks to to look at in those presentations we wanted to make sure we gave some timely responses to some questions um that came up from the previous meetings so we did that through the high school and actual audit uh question and answer information period and then we round it out with um uh a similar presentation that you just saw from Innovation and CTE and got into some detail there so reminding folks that with all these meetings that they follow the link or they go to our website and look for the bond committee uh advisory committee there is plenty of information minutes and documents online for them next SL so so now we're through four
110meetings we have eight in total um this is kind of a shift so now we are going to shift into that uh analysis of our buildings some of the dollar amounts and really get into the the informational piece where people get to to look at those things on the committee and see how they all kind of piece together so we thought it would be a good idea to just um kind of give a high level of how we're thinking about this in terms of you know kind of three High Lev buckets uh Safety and Security building modernization of facility stewardship uh and secondary needs needs and you can see we've highlighted just two or three areas under each um that come to mind as we think through these uh and I'll mention again this is
111not an exhaustive list so there are plenty of things that we may be considering or bringing to the attention of the committee to to ponder in their recommendation um so I did want to pause and see if this is a slide that uh you had any questions on or any additional conversation before I move to the to the next meeting overview look like it okay we can go to the next one thank you and actually I we're gonna talk about engagement good evening everybody Leisa angles um so I'm just gonna highlight some of the engagement and communication efforts so far um during this phase of the bond advisory committee so obviously there was work that led up to this the were thought exchanges and such last year um when people were starting to talk about
112the new high school and previous work up to that and there will obviously if a resolution is passed there would be an entire campaign built out at that point in time too but just for kind of our current state of where we're at um the bond ADV advisory committee itself is a huge engagement opportunity um we had a ton of applicants apply um and we were seeing a great representation throughout the district and all of the schools and levels um with multiple different affiliations through that throughout the system and throughout the community so that's obviously one opportunity um there's a variety of presentations with the community that we've done so far for example PTSA Schoolboard people listening to the Schoolboard um Family Partnership group um there were some questions tied into the empathy interviews uh
113that the district conducted with a number of community members and then making sure that there's some staff engagement as well um so Martin and I spoken and connected at cabinet um all admin this last week some of our other staff meeting um and then in April um there'll be opportunities for building level staff um and admin staff here too to kind of get an idea um and those will be timely based off of right now we're about a Midway point so there'll be opportunities um once there's kind of a summary of how some of those meetings have gone and also looking at what some of those um expected kind of recommendations might be at that point in time from the work of the committee um and then next week there is a research study that's
114launching too so some of the tie-ins for communications with that are some of the community facing pieces with The Advisory Group whether that's recruitment um website um making sure we've got minutes agendas objectives posted up there um in the same way we that we do a recap on the school board meeting we've been doing a recap on each of the bond advisory committee meetings um so people can kind of get themselves up to speed if they're not able to join in live time um that's always included in the 411 after the whatever the committee is so it's in that next Monday or Tuesday if there's a holiday um there's been a couple videography um opportunities Heather's done one or two Martin and I worked on one together and then with the internal work group that's
115part of the advisory committee um consistent communication as far as agendas minutes planning and engagement homework assignments it's it's light homework though don't worry it's not we're lighter than el12 recommendations um so some light homework for the committee members um and then making sure we're getting the team's Channel updated with some pieces too so those are just some kind of examples of current state of things going on thank you so before I talk about meeting number five I would just like to plug that we were able to have some building tours over the last week or so uh which was very nice to have folks come in and be able to see what the buildings look like some with the students in them some without but to get to see the building do that tour
116I think helps um with context for folks um and like I said we have gone through half we're going to start getting into the details um before we do that one bullet point that didn't make it on here uh given time was we're going to start with uh a presentation from the equity belonging and Family Partnership so we want to make sure we round that out and make sure that that uh presentation was first on the list uh and then we're going to get into um the information on our school so state of our schools we're going to have some information Broken Out by location um and kind of within the focus areas that we looked at uh earlier uh we're going to talk a little bit about cost analysis and how much you know
117each of these areas May um amount to and what that looks like and then we're going to have a conv Sation about you know as um you talk about taking on debt and what that means for the public uh what what kind of impact it has on our tax rates in the community um and some of those other impacts um when you talk about a bond you're taking out and uh you're going to have to repay some debt so want to make sure we go through those details uh before we get further and so this fifth meeting really um starts the kind of uh Community exercise or the committee excuse me exercise around the data so we're going to start you know breaking up into groups and doing some different things um we we really
118get into it um instead of just uh the kind of sit and get presentation style so that's that's that is exciting and then we will go to the next steps we will continue so we have some work between now and that meeting to just kind of finalize our data um get it ready uh we're going to continue um preparing for the next meeting meetings and then update the website as we go to make sure the public has all that information uh available and timely so that concludes our slides thank you thank you any uh board questions or Reflections um I just really appreciate the I guess the pace you're taking the group through and making sure they have a solid grounding on the State of Affairs the it's a comple it's a complex topic it's
119got so many moving parts and I think we doubled the amount of meetings from the last Bond to this one yeah almost doubled and so um I was just sitting here reflecting on how much grounded is you actually have to cover to get up to what what are we actually going to recommend so I appreciate that and on that point I don't know if I ever asked this but what roughly how many people in the group were around before for pre previous bonds or or levies or do we have more new people to the process or more experienced oh that's so in terms of the size of the committee I think we're we went from around 40 to 60 and then there's a range of um uh experience in that group so it's not I
120don't think it's too heavily weighted on people who've done this U too much or uh new it's somewhere in between which we put our little dots on the exercise in one of the earlier meetings I that covered it that's great it's a good range um and I I want to thank both Tom mullings and and superintendent T Yik too for uh the tour they took us on Saturday was really helpful and and director Taylor joined us as well and and we had some members from the bond committee with us too we started at Challenger U went to s High and then went to Cougar Mountain Middle School so um wonderful perspective to see that and if I understand it there was another similar tour that that Bond commit had this last week same set of
121schools too is it or is it a yes we went yesterday and we hit them just in a slightly different order yeah yeah it was great so thank you yeah just to to Echo that I wish um the point I'm trying to make it was very very enlightening to see those three schools in particular to see a school like Challenger that is very clearly in need of upgrade and lots of ways uh and then to you know jux suppose that to what we saw at coug Mountain Middle School be able to see you know what's possible what you can really do with your facilities and with thoughtful planning and all that so um I found that to be very very helpful I hope as many people on the committee can have that opportunity I don't
122know if there's another opportunity to tour the schools or not this may have been it but um I found it yeah very very helpful and agree I mean you know the the tough work here now is going to be the prioritization work because those needs are there but this stuff is expensive and I said this during the retreat you know it's um we just need to be very purposeful with our taxpayer dollars well I really appreciate Martin your leadership in this and your commitment to transparency you know I think as a board member that's been one of our concerns uh with capital projects is it seemed like a a black box uh where where is like oh you just don't worry about that and I really really appreciate that and Tom and any you have
123done extensive work on getting together Gant charts and things for uh our board to really highlight so we can easily see what the progress is for all of the construction management that's happens so I really appreciate that thank you uh anything else from um this is a big effort and an undertaking so between Martin Lea and Tom and many others we are um hyperfocused on this and when we talk about prioritization you know this is a top priority uh right now in terms of our time allocation um and it is uh worthwhile because we know that the facilities of our um buildings and our workspaces influence and impact you know our ability to deliver on great to Greater um to provide academic worker but also fun creative flexible spaces to continue to uh you know
124move into the future um I will say that the the tour also reminded me of over the weekend the school tours of the different chapters and eras of the growth of our district and we um while we saw an older building as director Taylor said we also saw that that building you know has also been well cared for in its you know uh additions over time but it's also time to continue that and we will always have a need to maintain um and upgrade our facilities so um really great work to the team and um appreciate our bond advisory committee in their efforts as well because they are we have very high attendance we didn't even talk about that but we have very high attendance and we look at that to make sure that we're
125um uh catching everyone up if they do miss a meeting as well thank you so much for that update uh next item on our agenda is monitoring reports executive limitation five actual Financial ition and activities sorry about that second superintendent great um as a reminder this this next two actual set of exec limitations for board possible action for approval have been significantly delayed due to the accountability audit um that audit um by the state auditor's office was officially published on February 20th and the school board had a meeting to participate in an exit conference with the state Auditors the week prior on February 14th um so that's the phrasing that's the sort of you know preface to this and I'll let um Mr attorney take it away okay so um I'll just remind you that
126we did bring uh a good majority of this one to you in August and so we have updated it with uh the reference to both the financial audit um indicating the exception for the audit finding there and the accountability audit as well um with that reference so other than that um largely in change from the review in August thank you uh board questions or Reflections oh Ronda you know for me an important thing and why we do these evaluations is to really see what's happening in the system and um just because we may not be in compliance doesn't mean there's you know it's it's not a total I guess it's not a view for me that that's the negative piece I mean it is negative but what's positive in this is that it was addressed
127and there's new Solutions and I think that's the important thing of when something happens that that goes that's not in compliance it's the what did you do about it part that to me is extremely important as I'm reviewing this and so I just want to appreciate the district for identifying the issue and then doing something about it putting things in place to ensure that it's not going to happen again and I think that um that that's the confidence level that I have in the district in what it's done and this is a great it's it's a dry read but if you're a public in the public and you're interested in what you know what are we planning to do about it this is a good way to know that what are we planning to do
128about it um so I do appreciate that yeah I just want to add on um you know I just I commend the district for really understanding that there was a problem when we're talking about this the state uh audit and being transparent and and forthright and addressing the the issue and I personally am just very confident that you've taken the Lessons Learned um to and have put the controls in place to make sure that kind of thing won't happen again and that's you know that's really the best we we should ask for is that you know we do better and we are so that's great I'll I'll go I'll say uh page five I think item seven it would be great if you add the clarity for how much of the board Reserve was used
129because I think what we authorized versus what we used was different numbers yes so that would be great I think it was somewhere around $400,000 what will use so if that detail was added I would appreciate that add the detail okay uh and then uh I would item number five I don't know what page that is that is uh page four thank you the superintendent shall not fail to me maintain an unrestricted Reserve fund within the range of three to 7% of the general fund budget uh a reference was made in public comment today about our fund balance and you guys have very clear instructions on where that needs to be and we want to move from what we we were on the redbear low end as we went through Co and were a district
130that got very little eser funds uh compared to our surrounding districts so we had to figure out where those $21 million that we didn't cut that we did spend for covid mitigation we going to come from and they came from our reserves and so building that back back up strategically has been important especially as we get ready to move out for a bond and one of our jobs jobs is for fiscal accountability and to do the absolutely best uh use of tax dollars and having a favorable Bond rating as we go out to the market is essential for us to do that and so I want to just make it um clear to the community that there is a strategic reason why our bond balance needs to be where it is and in fact from
131your seat you would probably argue it's not high enough which you know we're the we're we'll always have that tensent we appreciate that that's your that's your perspective and we don't disagree but we also have to find balance in you know moving things forward but I just wanted to highlight that that that is something that you are directed to do and so I appreciate that your fund balance is where it is and as we look to potentially go out for a bond this is a critical moment for it to be there Dr W yeah I I really appreciate you just made that comment and I want to add on one because I've had interesting Community conversations in the past around fun balance and it's purpose and reasoning and I think I think uh some folks
132that I've talked to have a hard time with this idea of the the connection between fund balance and our funding sources and our bond raing Etc that's kind of long path for them so I just want to add to your example which I think is 100% real and valid um I have a much simpler way I talk about it which is the district is currently something like 3 $350 million of expenditure a year if you look at your own bank account the goal is to have some in there for the rainy day right at some point you have to maintain a level to keep payroll going you have to maintain a level of funding to keep the lights on and I think sometimes for some people is it's a harder line it seems more hard
133to touch and feel when it's about some Bond and some future thing and so I just try to get down to checkbook math which is um you know what percentage do we feel comfortable that we have to have in the bank to make sure we can continue to pay our staff we can continue to run our facilities and um not have any interruption in the great service to our students and in the financial support of the all the people who work here and so I I hope when I say it that way it helps people think about it just slightly differently it isn't just some weird slush fund it is literally so when roofs blow off or other things happen we can keep the the performance of The District going and it is a small
134percentage of the overall operating um funds of the district or the legislature doesn't pass their budget by June 30th and then we have to be able to form payroll or the legislator gives us new unfunded mandates I mean we could add more to that list thank you que I'll just add one last I agree with all of this and I think again just want to commend the district for identifying the issue as it relates to the audit and then again putting controls in place so I feel very confident about that and and appreciate the process that you've all gone through so thank you great with no further comments uh motion is on the table oh I should take public input sorry is there public input in the room or on Zoom very none motion is
135uh on the floor so all those in favor say I I I any opposed there you go thank you superintendent we know it's a lot for your team to uh have to contend with and then deal with something that was on our monitoring calendar from August and keep carrying it forward this many months later and uh refreshing it and keeping us in the loop for it so it's like the never- ending e so I apologize but thank you for that uh the next item on the agenda is monitoring reports executive limitation acute actual Financial condition external oops I move the board accept the monitoring report for executive limitation 5 external actual Financial condition and activities as presented second superintendent uh this is a continuation but from a different angle hyperfocused on our audits uh and
136so we are putting forward this monitoring report noting the two exceptions that are underlined uh with the federal audit finding as well as the accountability audit finding thank you wanted to open up to board for questions and Reflections unless dror Mar well I think for the public I think uh I wanted to just State around the um the emergency connectivity fund grants and the issues there we are not the only District in fact um there were wasn't it 40 districts um that were hit this year and um that was because not every District went through an audit this year so those that did not get audited but used those funds most likely will also receive the same exact finding and oh by the way Washington state has 90% of the findings on the um on
137this emergency contact connectivity fund Grant in the nation so we have 90% of them so this is really a disagreement between school districts utilizing those dollars that came in making sure that they were utilized correctly and the state Auditors Office who thinks that we can't figure out who the kids are in need in our district yes thank you oh sorry oh and and that and that we are still the the Washington State School Directors Association is still working with the FCC to try to correct this and I think there's some um there's still some work in progress there yeah and I was just going to thank you for saying that uh I also want to make sure it's clear that the district tracked assets we knew where they were we had procedures in place and
138we followed the guidance as it came out initially so this is not a situation where we have lost inventory we don't have uh you know any any funds that were uh somewhere we couldn't track so this is really a disagreement on our documentation versus what the auditor's office uh says that they would prefer so I just wanted to add that context to at least office was consistent and essentially like did this for every school district that it audited in our state so I I would add that not only for every school district in the state but all with the exact same language much to my frustration as I was board president meeting with the auditor's office and so I will just say again as I did to our state auditor that not only is there
139approach to audit but their findings inconsistent with the federal agency that provided the grant but they have been unclear in the basis of their own audit finding this is one that frustrates me to no end and I was quite fiery in that discussion uh so I'll be better today so I you know in the midst of covid school districts were asked to determine students in need of electronic devices and the ability to connect our district did a phenomenal job of doing just that determining need through our very clear processes handing out equipment knowing where that equipment was and even regaining that equipment at the into of the process um all well allotted for and all well documented yet somehow still unable to satisfy some unspecified need from our Washington State auditor's office so I just
140want to be super clear that I think um the district did a phenomenal job in serving our students in that moment as well as in um Crossing all the tees and dting all the eyes of how we how we um noted what we did there and I'm deeply disappointed in how this has been handled in our state auditing process and I'm hopeful that uh the FCC will weigh in differently although since Washington is an outlier I'm not certain what motivation they have to do that when the other 49 states could somehow figure out how to do this thank you shaylor did you getto already I appreciate as as this was coming the lead up to it there was a lot of information again transparently put out to our community the day that it was released
141you follow it up with the normal Cadence of communication uh that following Monday so this isn't something that we're trying to say oh this happened and we don't want to talk about it we're here today still talking about it and so there is no part of this that we're trying to hide behind or hide from and I appreciate your team leaning in to do that work I would love for the uh answers on the website to be a little bit more uh robust uh I think that would be helpful because we refer so many people to the website uh and so the question I would like uh for example to make it easier like when it says can we see the full State audit report and says is also found under the web page just
142link it there on that answer would be helpful and then the question what were the funds spent on and it doesn't answer the question it says a full detailed listing or detailing the use of these funds it's available on our capital projects web page that's amaz that I struggle to navigate so you know where the money was spent so I would list those projects out and more importantly when it talks about uh further on you talk about how it was spent on projects that were not approved in resolution I would make it clear that it's projects not capital projects that were from prior Bond resolutions or something to that effect because that is what is true but it leaves it hanging and not explicitly clear where the money was spent uh so people don't have
143to go hunting or wondering we don't want any of that and uh is there going to be an impact on our bond rating and that question is asked but not answered the answer is not actually an answer so if the answer is I don't know then I would lead off with I don't know okay uh or likely or not likely whatever it is the answer is and then whatever you mentioned further would be helpful H and then should I be concerned about future Bond measures again this isn't answered I really like Sydney should be yes no I don't know or a number or and I think the answer should be no for all the reasons that we are discussing and will continue to discuss over the next several months years and decades so I I
144would just be very intentional about that uh oh and then so yeah so the last one is if these audit findings were are for funds used from the 2012 2016 bonds how do you know where the monies were spent so both that one should be further detailed about when it says that we're outside the scope of the bond resolution I would then follow that up with where it was spend it doesn't actually answer it was it was for Bond resolution that was in 2006 and the other one for Bond resolution that was in 2012 just so people know like this wasn't just oh was spent on a different project it was spent on the projects that the community approved and then the community wanted and that's the message that we need to make sure that
145they understand was there accounting errors on who allocated which bucket of money to which project in which year sure but it wasn't an error of this money was not supposed to be spent on this Cal project so uh as far as a project that was outside the scope of what the community wanted is what I mean by this project all the all the money was spent on projects that the community wanted that the district brought forward and publicly talked about just a different time frames and I think we just need to really make that easy for people to see what that is so that would be my request right any other questions Reflections for this monitoring report before I ask for public but yes I just want to be clear that your your statements were
146about the FAQ page correct so I don't have to figure out anything for in here sorry yes I would say say also on the FAQ page I would love on the last question when you're like what are the changes first of all I think where it links to just ends up being broadly about the budget and not really defined to what it's supposed to answer in there but I would love a link to like a mockup and it doesn't have to be it can be for a fic fictitious um building but when we've talked about construction you came up with a whole new Matrix for us to look at as to where what was the original amount it would be great if the public could see hey this is one of the ways we're trying
147to hold it accountable is to be able to to to you know log and monitor those things so maybe having a you know a makeup one for an imaginary school for the public to see how it would be used because I to me that's still something that's robust that as we're moving through projects that's going to be an important document for me to you'll have access to okay I'll pause at this moment uh is there any public input in the room or on Zoom very none any more board comments Reflections no all right motion all those in favor say I I I any oppos thank you I know it's been a lot we appreciate it and as our superent said you all you have this other thing like that Bond thing that you're working on
148to to plan so thank you for being able to simultaneously live in 2012 and so okay uh the next item on the agenda is monitoring report executive limitation 16 Equity I move the board accept the monitoring report for el6 Equity as presented second superintendent thank you as we have um some co co co-presenters making their way up I'll just uh add a couple of framing comments and a note here um the note is that we did have a some student input and feedback collected by Nathan pan who's um actually had a conflict unexpected he was planning on being here which is why we scheduled around him and this moning report but um that feedback has been provided to the board and um he has an opportunity to be you know competing in something that is
149important to him so that's why he's not here tonight um I do want to talk about you know something that that had come out of the work study a little bit around uh whether or not this executive limitation is an end something that we make progress toward versus a in in the words of executive limitations shall not fail to and I do think that um diversity Equity inclusion in of itself is a uh a a ongoing course of actions that we have to pay attention to to ensure that we have the proper culture that supports every individual being able to be their full authentic self and to thrive as adults but also students um so sometimes you know when we're when we're looking at it from a very compliance-driven potential you know what I mean
150method we might um be seeking for Perfection which in the words of some uh various experts who are leading in diversity Equity inclusion can be a marker potentially of actually stifling uh belonging and individualism and being able to see the plethora of diversity that does exist in a district so um the way we talk about this work is very much about how are we continuing to evolve get better improve take the feedback and listen and learn um as well as to celebrate the kinds of things that we need to um move towards in terms of a culture of appreciation which then further Fosters affirmation and belonging so I just say that out loud because I think the you know it is a this is not so much about a compliance uh uh work in our
151day-to-day life it is really making meaning of addressing belonging affirmation uh having a culture that supports and affirms every individual to be successful so I did want to say that out loud um and I do see that our our efforts right have been increasing that in lots of different tangible ways and observable ways um and lifting that up is is probably not we can't probably lift it all up in this executive moding report it would be probably quite much longer than it is um but we have some selected components here and uh the Strategic plan has also allowed us to provide specific opportunities to advance some of that work as well and to make reasonable progress overall in lots of different other areas that are connected to both our ends and other executive limitations so
152um just really great work this is this is everyone's work every every leader in our organization and individual is accountable to advancing the work of el16 and equity and um I want to thank Donna and Elena who are here specifically to be presenting on behalf of the many individuals who contribute to having a a great culture so over to you good evening executive director Elena sasan of equity belonging and family Partnerships uh a couple of key highlights or positive vital signs that I wanted to just point out that are captured I believe in el16 is that as a district system we are increasing our infected our effective engagement as well as seeking out diverse perspectives on District initiatives uh practices and school climate from all of our families including those from diverse backgrounds and I
153also think uh superintendent T hit on this um this second piece is that there's a recognition by our system a growing recognition that Equity um is not just the work of the equity Department nor uh will the equity Department be able to find technical solution uh to solve all the inequities within our system but we're really leaning in and embracing that we need to have an Adaptive uh approach to this work um where we're all going to have to invest um be willing to take on some of the costs um where some of our ways of being as a district our attitudes and our loyalties will need to be renegotiated to really lean into this work um a couple uh examples of some of that uh forecasting um of that type of collaborative work where
154we all own it is um one of the strategies of the Strategic plan is creating an equity framework that we use uh with our curriculum adoptions so that's something that we completed this year but it was a uh massive collaboration between uh the teaching and learning Department special services department the equity belong in and family Partnerships Department as well as um with our uh several student groups um across various high schools and our family engagement group to put together a framework that really um addresses um the inequities that can uh um happen within a curriculum adoption so we're looking not just at the materials that we're selecting but also what is the professional development that we're providing teachers to equip them to teach them materials uh and then also um what type of instructional um
155practices are we using and do we need to be collaborating with other um outside experts to um Infuse more information into our materials where they may be um not as robust as we would like so just exciting work that's uh happening this year and we'll be talked about next year hi Donna hood is assistant superintendent of human resources and parts of the work here um really are again collaborative efforts with lots of different people particularly the HR team uh the 12 of us who are pulling uh in the direction of some of the goals outlined here and I think our really big Pride points are about the total increase in the number of applicants we had to the ISD last year we saw nearly 30% increase um in the total applicants which helped us to
156move uh in the direction of having more C staff of color and we also saw a very similar increase in the classified staff of color so the total increase was 3% in a single year previous efforts have been about 05% so for us that was a huge sign that we are definitely accelerating that the pace at which we are hiring those staff very excited about that as they then represent um the identities of our students in our very very diverse um School settings so we're super super excited about that for us also we're we're thinking as a Cabinet team and a larger administrative team about how how to lead in our buildings in our spaces our departments and one of the things that uh director civid dawon has brought exec director civid daon has brought
157to the all admin space is adult training and it is led by Luis versas and it's really been quite powerful to explore with him ways of not just equipping ourselves but then also turning to equip others who we know are are key in carrying out the work it it's not just one person or 12 people it has to be all of us pulling uh together the same direction to make the experience for kids better and I think that training has been pretty foundational and and given us some really good reflective moments to as individuals to figure out what our own next best steps are great questions wanted to open up for board Reflections and questions and for our student Representatives as well start thanks um lots of great stuff in this report and um which
158we touched on a little bit earlier again uh really kudos to increasing the diversity hires I just that number to me 3.1% just left off the page and um very excited about that I did though again I made comments earlier I I think the district really should be uh commended for the work you're doing with Community engagement and Outreach um you know this is really our our opportunity to how we welcome people into our our district you know and people that are coming from outside the United States that have language barriers and are trying to navigate a whole new educational system um that's really intimidating and here you've done all this great work with these the Family Partnership events um doing a lot of work to improve the accessibility of documentation so that people can
159really get the answers that you that they need is I think really really fantastic so I just wanted to point that out and um um say how happy I was to evening Reflections I I wanted to actually comment more towards superintendent tek's um you know discussion at the beginning why that this is an executive limitation and so it talks about compliance and at first when I was reading through this I thought you know there's uh there's actually data that we received in the past that we don't have in here we don't have the how many students are in highly you know what is the disaggregated data around students in highly capable programs and and I thought I'm in missing that why am I missing that and then it was really going back through and saying
160oh yes we're not evaluating the end results right that student data is ends data and so we're actually evaluating are we actively in encouraging supporting and expect high achievement and social emotional well-being for students from all racial groups and other identified subgroups so I don't need to know what's the end result because then I might feel like I'm not in compliance but because that's not the focus and that's not the data being brought to us that's okay because that's not actually what I'm asking for so I thought it was a really good question is what's the difference between an ends and an executive limitation and you've really hit it this time that you're not bringing us data that is related to what would be considered ends data it's really talking about what are we doing
161with staff and that really is going to be the robust thing is what are we doing to make things accessible for students how are we better explaining things and I don't know if it was mentioned here um but I know that we've talked more about how we inform parents about middle school math and maybe that's because that's work that's in this year and our show up next year but I think to me that's one of the examples of that's how we're creating and promoting access is because I've hated that stupid form I think before I even started this policy that we had before because I felt as a Suburban mom I knew the system well enough to know oh my my kid scored in level four on the math test but she didn't get the
162number that was on the form which was higher than an L4 I'm putting her in advanced math anyway way right so I knew to break the rules but if I came from another culture I would know what rules are kind of well it says that but doesn't really mean that and I so I think just even that type of Change Is How We Do bullet number two or bullet number B under number number one so for me it was I had to get over myself there was data we used to get and I don't get that data anymore to really reading through and seeing what are you trying to describe how are you showing evidence of what it is we bch you to give uh I think the highly capable data is in on page
16310 but the No No page 10 links would open for me so uh but while we're pausing at this moment I wanted to read our statement because it's been a couple years and we have two new board members and that'd be a good moment to reflect just on like this is what guided our work at the beginning as a board uh we believe that each student has the potential to achieve and it is our responsibility to provide all students with the opportunity and support needed to meet their highest capability in a safe and welcoming environment we acknowledge that systemic and institutional inequities and bias exist creating barriers for student achievement and well-being we are committed to raising the achievement of all Learners regardless of race status variability mental health English language fluency gender gender identity
164sexual orientation religion trauma impact and geography our culture should promote the identification and removal would you pay $5 for a really good pooping experience predictability and disproportionality of the highest and lowest achieving groups so wanted to just Elevate that especially with two new board members uh as far as uh don't know if you have any thoughts or Reflections as you were reading this monitoring report the first time and as director marado said in the retreat this is what was Idis for why we then developed value statements for every one of our executive limitations and thank you for noting the the links because you're right I was not able to clict those links previously on my device that I was using any other questions Reflections quick thing too on uh page 13 um I know director
165Taylor mentioned this earlier but just the partnership with the following groups what's outlined there and so many of these things are unique to our district you know cultural Bridges um you know the nursing isquad nursing Network um the work that we're doing is is is commendable I I just want to note that so um always impressed with that this says a finance question so maybe you'll have to be joined by one of your colleagues uh page eight uh if we would open that link for us so the 2022 23 title one lap building allocation and asked this question last year as well so if you would walk me through the bottom table right hand column because it lists the allocation for lap funding with FTE in the second to the right column and then it
166lists varied amounts to building allocation in the far right column on the second uh table and we have been ask ing pleading directing whatever words you want to use about having disproportionate funding to our elementary schools based on need not based on FTE and so do I interpret this as that's what's happening I I'm confused about how FTE in the second to the right hand column on the on the lower table and building allocation are not matched meaning you see one like there's many that say 0.5 FTE and yet the building allocation number is different so okay so the allocation and then the certificated like the FTE so it's because of the way it's staffed it has to be in 0.5 increments um and then the different type of data so title one's based purely
167on the poverty data and then for the other one it's assessment data um and so you only have a finite amount of FTE and some schools are you know way below a certain threshold um but you have to give them you know a certain amount so even though someone might only need 02 you still need to give them a05 um so that does create some variances in the the lap funding Title One is straight pretty straightforward it's um um with the way that it's it's done so that would be that would create some potential variances so I guess for me then the concern would be that if that means the district is using Levy dollars to to fully fund those 05 FTE positions so the buildings that need lap the least are getting the most
168money no um so um we do also look at the analysis each year from uh for title and lap together um for looking at the need for poverty and for the assessment data um so we look at the total amount FTE together as well when we're thinking about this um to ensure that we are meeting the needs of those schools right but I mean walk through Creek Side for me so uh line uh it says 23 Creek Side 12 students identified 2% of the student population the allocation based on the lap funding formula would be a 0.16 but you fund at 0.150 and so the building allocation from the state for Creekside would be $20,000 1118 which is clearly much less than what a 0.5 certificate staff costs so we are supporting that yes we
169we are supporting it through Levy dollars we we do fund it more than the state funds it yes so I mean here I read it is so CI is actually getting more money than what they would show is need based on this then say I'll choose one where it's higher so isqua Valley and isqua Valley has 119 students identified 21% of the student population which is an allocation by the state of 19953 uh with a 1.6 FTE and we only allocate them 1.2 so this is something that I did also notice when uh this was done for 2324 and 2425 um so that was increased uh by 0.5 um and also that was to help support dual language uh assessment as well so the the allocation in esquad Valley is the 1.6 plus restate your
170names for the record Rich melish executive director tach learning Services um the allocation um I'm sorry I me the allocation at isqua Valley is the 1.6 plus the 1.2 for the staffing on Intervention it's right next because you have allocation and certificated FTE don't you have those together they have 3.0 no okay no okay so you're looking at the okay this is oh I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm looking at the the title versus the lap I I the one piece of context that I did want to give is that um with the early literacy law there was a minimum um uh amount there's a guaranteed amount of intervention that we need to do at each school so we um based on the assessment data we if a student meets a certain threshold we do have
171to provide that intervention and in the law it says and that we can use lap funding for that so um we have in order to provide that early literacy intervention a05 FTE is is required to be able to get a delivery of that that program so if we look at the assessment data we we have found that we have students at every school that need the intervention um and so we do need to deliver that that program uh we have taken all the minimum funding at those schools and then made sure that use all the rest of the money at the schools with the greater need so that's where the um title title funds do allow us to um spread that money out differently and more uh weighted manner so you didn't want to put
172that program that program minimum program need uh into the consideration as we've done the Staffing and those challenge are those point4 is that just a typo the sorry so when we when we look at it you by m well there's 04 and then you have to add the 6 up above to get the Total Staffing for school so you have when we when we look at the total program it's title and lap Staffing together so for Ive you have to look at the Staffing above and the Staffing below to get the Total Staffing for the program I get but Challenger the Total Staffing that's allocated by the idle one and lap is 1.33 and they're getting 1.00 FTE so I think for me this just highlights the inequity that still exists in our system and
173that we're really wanting to see resources driven to schools with the most need and this would argue that that's not the case last year I appreciate Mor you announcing that for this current school year that it's it looks different and maybe that would be helpful for the board to receive what this looks like right now you know we'll be monitoring it next year because this continues to be an area of concern for me yeah and we did also increase uh to to make up some of the differences the allocation in total for lap as well um so that's going to be you know more Levy dollars um so it did I believe in 23 24 it's 13.5 and then 24 Point 23 Point 24 to 25 it's 14 ft so we keep increasing as well
174as our um poverty rating keeps increasing as well so it is jumping um from 12% 133% um so it's going up at least a percent each year as well um so this is something we continue to look at and um the you know Title One funding increases very small amount we still also um provide extra funding for title one as well and for La so um this is an area we'll continue to look at in trying to make sure that we you know get those uh the the needs to the the schools that have the highest needs so we appreciate your feedback back thank you any other questions Reflections one question I have on that too it'd be nice to um in in in many ways actually it'd be nice to just get a little
175more detail on how to interpret this too because I'm I'm not sure I'm 100% clear coming away from that how to interpret it too so I I just if we could get more information on that because it would be useful because I'm I'm wondering maybe sounds like moving in the right direction in theory with this but maybe just not fully understanding it I don't I don't know I guess getting some more Direction on would be good y we can provide more background information as well that great thank thank you I I think director coin you're getting to something I've I've often struggled with which is we have numerous sources of resourcing that provide different rol and support in any given building around any given set of students and so um in Lisa Engles and I
176had this conversation like I have this Vision in my head we never finished it which is trying to draw a picture of all the resources around a student to get a sense I think we've certainly we heard public comment tonight we hear at different points about Reflections on any particular one of those resources at a time so you'll hear um feedback of one there should be more of one or more of another and so it's we have multiple resources and I think um as we hear about it throughout the course of the year there's lots of different um support systems in place I think where we struggle is to tell that complete picture um because it in my mind at least it isn't about the level of any one individual resource yes I think the
177goal is to get a disproportionate amount of funding to buildings that need more help um but it's also in my mind hard to really recognize whether that's happening or not without that picture of the full team and the full wraparound um so I'm just acknowledging that what you're asking for is one that I continuously play play through because ultimately the goal is to have adults that kids connect with and are getting support and that we know that that comes in many different roles in many different places um so I just share that that's one I've I've always struggled to make sure we look at the holistic support systems still probably imperfect still needing to be rebalanced all the time but I think um at least from my perspective it many times a fuller picture would
178be more helpful t i yes I fully agree and I think oftentimes too when we're having these conversations and obviously you know Community is listening in I think it would be helpful for all of us Community you know broadly to be able to see um this in the whole spectrum of that so yeah I think it's a great Point thank you I just think there should be some predictability about what the expectation is for how we're going to disproportionately fund and so when I see that Sunset and Clark have less ft assigned to their building than they've been identified by Title One and lab that's not okay in my book and so I I need to know the reasoning for the why behind it and would like there to be some predictable formula that the
179district uses once they blend all these dollars together to wrap around and support kids so we know and I hope that that funding formula is disproportionate to serve kids with the greatest St would it be helpful to have an an end calling that says what is the overall like and then maybe it's even in a different place but the overall per pupil funding at each school to get an idea what are we spending per per student because it's so hard to marry okay are they Title One are they you know everybody's getting lap dollars but how many lap dollars are they getting and um and then where where the standard as far as how percentage of students and then it's it's too much math for the board to put together says the math uh so
180I I I believe it is uh I can understand the sort of looking at one small slice of resource allocation to support students um and although These funds are allocated toward students with you know what I mean um identified specific needs Andor uh funding sources that then go with that we we are taking on this is you know part of what we did hear have heard from the board over the years not just in my time but also we've we baked that into our strategic plan to look at uh an equity based budgeting model so we're kind of taking it at the big big picture and that's the work that just started this year and so we will be that'll be a focus of big topics for the board um next year so I do
181appreciate that and I think through that process it would illuminate and create greater visibility into the various ways you can look at it because I think the ideas now are just one part of a multiple set of factors that we would want to look at to disproportionately fund and invest in where we have the highest need while maintaining a high level of service across the board at the same time so there's um a variety of different ways you can pull different levers to look at that and so it is a big it is a big undertaking so we are excited to bring that forward um it's so it's definitely un it's probably unsatisfying for us as well to like to look at little mini pieces of our funding model to think about that uh because
182we think we want to tackle it in a big bigger way so just to preview that work to come is there any public input uh in the room or on Zoom see none any more board Reflections and questions no okay we have a motion all those in favor say I I any oppos there you go yeah thank you for all of that work in creating a culture for Equity when I went to the nsba conference in Philadelphia one of the sessions I attended really talked about if this has to be at the highest level organization and that the superintendent really is the chief Equity officer and if there is not the vision for that then no matter what you do as a board to enhance and support Equity will uh fail miserably so thank you
183for your commitment to educational Equity uh legislative matters I just said one thing um I noted that the wasda wasda has kicked off its platform revision process which is new to me um so the question is is if whether we want to have some input in into that the deadline for a submission from our has to come from the board um submission has to be made by April 8th um and I could you know of course look into that process but wanted to know if we need to have a conversation around that I noted there are 225 positions already I don't know if we need a 226th but um I wanted to open that up for discussion perhaps yeah I would just encourage you if you haven't already to read through their position proposals and
184see if there are any gaps uh so one of the ones that we brought years ago was gun violence prevention okay uh mental health and social emotional supports was another one uh okay yeah where Levy Levy equal you know um not Equalization but just um how levies are are done and not grandfathering in these high rates of they're allowed so in a way l v Equalization yeah where we've found to be less in agreement with other districts has been uh collective bargaining at the state level or funding of uh let's say insurance and health plans at the state level and our district took a $6 million hit a year when they created Seb uh so as you read through them and if you're like oh what about this or how'd this come or you know
185sure certainly look for errors but we have certainly LED on work about social emotional learning and and govern prevention most recently is this something we've done commonly or when the need arises so to speak which is what I hear you're saying there's a need obviously uh I think we did it pretty frequently for a period of several years in a row and we did a lot of cloud of work with uh East keing County school districts and that probably created a foundation a really strong Network in E King County which has been really good in that part of sustained I think as we've moved through we didn't do anything during covid except focus on our our internal works of our school district yeah uh yeah okay great well thank you for the guidance did you
186have anything I I did want to share that so um you know now that uh s d is passed um there are some bills and there's one specifically around um education um of fentanyl that has passed through so that uh obbii will be creating some more robust um education that ultimately will come to us they'll be changing some of the standards of in health class related to that so that there's more education around um opioids and specifically fentanyl that will be coming to our students and they also approved which we are all already doing but to um recommend that districts have um none which is the the brand name is Naran in all the schools we do that already um and also we'll be um recommending they will be recommending that we have policy changes
187so wasda will have to go through and make sure that there's a policy related to um the storing and the usage of that and training for staff um that would be possibly utilizing it so those changes happen oh and my favorite is that um High potency THC products you now have to be 25 to purchase them which is I'm really appreciative of because too many too many of our students have access to that because older siblings or friends that are just above the age have access to it so hopefully it will restrict access to our students of those High potency uh THC items perfect were there anything from your team now that the legislation session has ended for uh we are appreciative of the uh increases for epox so that will help Heen our budget
188to help meet the rising cost of um all the things that are part of just normal cost of doing business so that's that and you know some of the other um efforts don't directly impact us and uh and we know that there's some initiatives going to ballot as well in November and so we're watching um we'll be watching those as well thank thank you we are to announcements and correspondence are there any that are not listed already see no one look up I don't think that is a no and now we are the most exciting part see if we can do this in 12 minutes calendar and future agenda topics so listed on there uh are all the things that we are going to walk through today and the first one is is draft 20242
189Ford calendar so uh grab your phones and uh start taking a peek and this is where for our students this is where if you guys wanted like where night our night is done so I would it if it was my choice I would not be here so and we appreciate your engagement through to this moment do you want to just talk through from your perspective why some of them that have changed meaning uh why I see a Wednesday meeting on March 12th uh yes yes so um We are continuing with the Cadence of Thursdays and every roughly two Thursdays in the months where we can have a four Thursday sequence without interruption of um Vacations or holidays the um proposal for March 12th is that that um if we do not have a snow day
190call then March 14th would be a day off and so uh we're mindful of uh whether or not that's a a night that maybe if there is not a snow to that families parents of kids might be planning something for that weekend and they can start their weekend on that Thursday night so that's why that's a Wednesday proposal is that the same reason for May 22nd um May 20 oh um that's a different reason uh the uh the the 20 I get into a little bit of a challenge on Memorial Day weekend as a superintendent I think last year we I made a request to move it to a Wednesday um instead of a Thursday and then so we were looking at the spacing between these and because of the holiday of that Memorial Day
191weekend um it seemed like it could work to be you know in two weeks from the June one but uh give us a little bit of a reprieve on that weekend the the Thursday before the Memorial Day Weekend those are my questions any other questions from the board things that are cannots that jump out of you my my only thing about the one in May is that sometimes wasda will have Regional meetings and they use utilize that fifth week because board because boards don't typically meet in fifth week of a month but that was my only thought about that yeah that's why April 9 we're hosting when do those get decided upon or scheduled late January early February oh uh much later than when you determine this calendar can I ask can tell me tell
192me what the color coordination is what's the yellow what's the red okay so the oh uh you can you can go yellow is the start or not it's start of kindergarten uh so the 28th of August is the start of school the uh fourth is the start of September is the start of kindergarten and then the 18th is the last day of school the orange are non-student days that are professional development days for our staff and the gray are scheduled holiday days off great I will say I would not be available for the March 12th meeting until um after 7 yeah that one's really tough for me too that's why we moved off of Wednesdays particularly the second Wednesday of the month is like the worst day of the month [Music] as long as we
193have three people at the computer right so be it I'd rather have the potential of the long weekend I'd go with the Wednesday yeah I mean will tell us whether we can or cannot have that long weekend we really defer to the board on this one because we're R you know we know that we have used that March date as a snow day makeup day uh consistently so I defer to the board on you know on that date it was more of a nicity to given that that could potentially be a weekend longer can we agree if we know by like January is that the days moved because we we're going to have school like this year and every most every other year in the past decade uh that we will move that meeting later
194on as we go through our Board calendar well because as we've shown tonight it can be a really full meeting yeah I'm fine with that we can move it later so can we just somehow capture that we being Bethany if we that maybe to have a calendar invite that is an actual hold in case that date moves so that I don't accidentally schedule something oh yeah yeah great so we can create another color coding too when we publish this so that there's another that says backup date so that we and then we plan for that in our also Outlook calendars does that work yeah love that thank you for that okay do we have to do a motion for approval of this board meeting calendar we do getting ahead now do we have to are
195we G more than one or just this one it's not school calendar this just the board no no no I'm sorry I was just I hadn't gotten back to we have many dates is this the only one we need to do a motion for is this calendar okay perfect yeah for that yeah I move we approve the calendar the board calendar as presented and include a backup um board meeting date of March 13 second any discussion all those in favor hi hi that would be March 13 2025 I forgot that part all righty one down we're not going to make nine o'cl um next item is the board will discuss which D board director will speak at which high school's graduation for the class of 20 24 yes I was gonna offer to First oh
196sorry jumping the gun okay is is qu High School case anyone was wondering okay uh knowing that I assuming in 2025 drer coin will want Skyline in 25 so for this year that means Skyline is or do we want it two years in a row bece yeah yeah okay I just want making sure I'm trying I was trying to move you out of that spot knowing that you probably want to next year trying to lock you inead of time uh so we have Skyline Gibson and Liberty and then we also attend uh our act graduation but I don't think we speak there speak so yeah so uh I will defer to our newest board members if they have interest I have no skin in this game meaning the Way's off so I'm happy so do
197is there's only four right and there's five of us so someone can sit yeah that's the that someone can opt out if they want to yeah I am too but I don't care so is's a preference uh go ahead well I was gonna say I will say that it's a great opportunity for the for the community to begin knowing who you are sure by speaking at at an event that large I was going to say I have you know I have done Gibs neck several times because they're kind of my baby since my baby went there but I've neglected my other school Liberty for a very long time okay so I'm hearing I'm hearing Dr moraldo claim Liberty home schools yeah so now we're we're down we're down to well I'll do Gibson it's F
198and director Taylor's Gibson so I guess look at director coin gets out of it I I am assigned um Skyline by default okay that was smart and smooth I like that I'll remember that next year I will need uh copies of previous speeches too okay okay the next ones are just listing of what uh we have plans and where I want you to get your calendar out again is for what was sent out for board retreat dates of August 26th and 27th we already have on and want to make sure that those are something that we can agree to and then we can calendar them formally at the next meeting if that's and I know that yeah Bethany sent out those as calendar invites but I wanted to make sure actual yeah I'm sorry good
199great yeah and I thought we talked about it before I just couldn't ever find the dates but I the poll and I think I had P it up so I got back oh yes it was because so it's yeah so and you okay that does that work for you that does work yeah okay and then we're going to get the calendar your count out one more thing for we're going to try this for the third time for uh sip so it's really on Sydney and I so the dates that are that all three others can do do you can you tell us those dates since we are the on 119 is secondary and 123 Elementary all of 1119 and 123 I could do both of those States you say this 11 can you do can
200you do it okay so we have agree with that so we can calendar those next time as well You' be able to set those out okay perfect well we have to make a motion on it so do you want to do that at the next board meeting that's okay yep and what else is coming up is we are we did hear from smish so we will be calendaring linkage and it will be one of those that we will have less flexibility so however many of the five of us that can make it can make it and it's not going to be where we're going to try and sync 12 people's schedules because I think that's unrealistic but wanted you to have that awareness so that's happening and we don't have dates we don't we're gonna
201do uh leadership linkage first and I guess yeah am I missing any of this all righty anything else future agenda topics other calendary things for the board no all righty then we are Jed I forget that this computer is ahead of time so we actually did meet before 9 o' your clock is yeah your computer's so weird I know it doesn't like this