School Board Meeting - January 9, 2023

001in this evening to the monthly meeting of the Burlington area school board if you could all join me and rise and say the Pledge of Elise okay I'd like to call the meeting to order Toby would you mind doing the Roll Call Peter Turk here Barry schmaling here Susan Kessler here Taylor Wishaw here Kevin bird here Marlo Brown here Roseanne Han here thank you thanks Toby next Communications uh first is citizen comments so this is an opportunity for um folks who want to um speak for up to three minutes you need to be a district resident or a parent of students in the district and I'd ask these are General comments not something you'll have an opportunity later if you're a member of the audience tonight to comment on any items for action on the

002agenda and I have uh looks like one person for General comments Matt snork Jill's got a microphone Mr snork are your comments General in nature are they something for the related to the curriculum for the books in the libraries so do you want me to speak now or later now please I think that's not an item for Action right so yeah quite a few actual items yeah I'm glad we made sure all right thank you uh so yes Matthew snorrick uh definitely a Burlington resident um so I'm here discussing again the um the curriculum and the educational materials available for these students that are in the libraries for the elementary schools middle schools high schools um even though I've been out of school for quite some time almost four decades old right now myself or

003a little over four decades old the biggest thing we had to deal with you know when we were in school was you know the National Geographic Magazines with the topless women from those countries that was a real big thing over there I'm still really concerned over I get more and more surprised I see the content of some of the stuff in our books here and I don't know you guys can't answer but I want to know wish we could discuss this one and see if you guys actually know the actual content in some of these books you know if parents want to expose their kids to these types of things that's on them but discussing you know 13 year olds being raped in prostitution and drinking and doing cocaine marijuana all this stuff I mean

004these young kids that are here right now they've got you know hormones raging throughout their body I remember myself being in junior high in high school and you know all the stress and the the need to fit in those are conversations that should be had I think you know in a classroom saying the teacher at home with the parents uh place a place like that not books of the nature in our school I actually had a proper one to bring here to to do for my three minutes and it was gonna be adult content magazine because there's not much difference between a hustler or a porno you know versus what we have in our schools which is a re basically a reading version of a visual magazine and I tried to find one to bring

005in here and I'm very proud to say there are any gas stations in Burlington that sell Playboy Hustler all those I called the police firm today to say is there any laws locally ordinance wise or statewise I'd be violating by bringing that in a bag into this meeting and say what's your offering the kids in school is he equivalent to this the officer had no idea and he said do you want me to go to school and do a report he's like that shouldn't be in the school I said well no it can be because our state law lets it I just wonder if I'm breaking the law and he had a checklist supervisor and called me back and said we have no laws against that if they ask you to leave because they don't

006want their school that's on you guys but I didn't break this I couldn't find it I want to get that law change at the state level so we don't have the ability to have teachers administrators and schools subject our kids to that I went and printed out quite a few of them the book called tricks book uh sold book lucky book maybe not I mean you can start anytime you want I'll respectfully walk away he he began to knead his fist against the opening my vagina he inserted his fingers into three or four times something tore I began to bleed I was wet now I made him excited he was intrigued let me let me just pause yes sir we'll pause your time there is a difference between reading a book where it's a personal

007experience between the reader and the um and the author of the book versus we have we're live streaming this right now and there could be kids who are watching this who are very young or they could watch it later because it'll be on YouTube so they'll have to read the books and they get a couple more years in school right I'm just saying there's a distinction between the two things and one of our rules when we have public comment is that we don't say anything obscene so that I I just want to give you a caution that we're heading are you are you acknowledging that that this is obscene because it's in our schools if it's not seen it shouldn't be in the schools right I'm not this is not time for debate I'm taking

008your book I'm just saying that I'm drawing some distinction between what you're doing so it's obscene because there might be kids at home but it's in our libraries so there's no point in me going on because I've got 28 highlighted sections so they actually get more graphic and I understand where you're coming from and for anybody that's home I apologize but that's what's in your books we need to address that kid should not be subject to that and thank you very much okay well thank you I will say as a as a factual point that there is a committee that's work is ongoing to review our policies and our procedure as far as Library materials the committee is not representative of all of us in Burlington though thank you foreign that's the only person who

009had a General comment next up I'd ask board members to give a report on any workshops or meetings that they've attended in the last month anybody we obviously have a a big one coming up though in uh next week because the state school board convention so I'm excited so we'll next month obviously we'll have reports from our State schoolwork mentioned as I know a number of our board members will be in attendance uh superintendents reports Steve thank you yes I would like to begin just by sharing that for folks that may not know we had a little bit of a mishap at our lovely new Middle School over our the winter break it happened to be on December 26th had a pipe burst in The Amazing cold weather that we were experiencing and shortly following

010new construction perhaps these are are the things that we should expect but I don't bring it up to talk about the fact that we were cleaning up water for for a long while bring it up to just to highlight the fact that we had a number of our staff that came in on the night of the 26th on very short notice they were having dinner with loved ones they were with families came in and immediately began to do that cleanup without question and when a pipe goes that's running you know 125 gallons a minute for maybe three or four hours I think uh there are people in this room who would say it sounded like a waterfall uh in the middle school and so to clean that up to have the effort from uh folks

011in the district office our custodial staff folks in the building who just all showed up I just want to publicly acknowledge how much we appreciate that that included the the folks in the remediation company and our our construction partnership who worked on the building with us so Kudos all around for really kind of dodging a bullet and for finding it and cleaning it up so quickly so that we could resume school when we started last Monday so thanks to them uh also as we come into the month of January now we start really looking ahead at next year and just want to highlight that our 4K registration is up and running we're now accepting applications for that and as the board is aware this year we began the full day option for 4K the the

012half day option is still there but certainly we've we've had about 80 percent of our families have taken the full day so we're glad that we're able to offer that as a service also when it comes to our earliest Learners just want to acknowledge we've had a wonderful partnership with oscillero learning for the last many many years oscillaro like so many folks is experiencing some pretty significant Staffing challenges and are are electing to really focus their energies on some of the larger more urban areas that they serve and so we we will be losing having ocelero with us here in in the winter months somewhere between January and Feb and they've notified families and we will continue to work to support any family that's left in that transition so that we're able to to provide

013services also this Thursday night we've got a special education parent night we're excited about offering this for for families and for our parents really conversational in nature but the first of hopefully a series of parent meetings and this will focus on kind of what it what it means to navigate an individualized educational plan also in terms of the services happening our health services folks will be very busy working on feel a smile which is coming up and you may have heard of this already it's when our we have hygienists that come into the elementary schools and they provide free dental cleanings as well as screenings and other treatments that are necessary for our young students who don't otherwise have dental care also just one celebration um our our girls basketball team at the high school

014they've been having kind of a record-setting year I think it's safe to say so if you're not following them and you are looking to catch a game that might be one you'd want to put on your list and I'll specifically call out uh Brinley Clapp who scored 34 points in a game and that is a new school record and then Ella clap is also on the cusp of setting a record for the most career three-pointers and so there's some really cool stuff going on at in the girls basketball program at the high school and then finally I'll just add that as January passes us through we will be ending this semester officially that means finals at the high school and it also means we'll be having an in-service day on January 27th so thank you

015for letting me share those highlights all right uh thank you Steve next on our agenda is a consent agenda items and these are we've been doing this for the last three or four months if you look at the the agenda there's five items it's our approval our last month's board meetings approval of the bank statement and bills appointments resignations retirements and terminations and donations and earlier um uh this last week our Personnel committee approved all the appointments resignations and retirements so I'd um and all this information is available publicly um you can check out our website or if you have a copy of our agenda it's on there so if you have questions but at this point I'd entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda I move we could see we hey motions made

016and seconded any comments I just have one we there are a lot of perks as board members but this is one of them so I'm going to take it um congratulations to Carrie heck who is our retiree of 35 years in the district um both of my Sons went through school with her I've talked with her many times over the years she's been fantastic it's very difficult to find someone that spends that kind of time in one District anymore so kudos to her for sticking it out and making it through thanks Barry for highlighting that anybody else have any comments hearing none I'll call for a vote all in favor say aye aye aye opposed nay all right thanks dear pass okay we have three items for information and discussion uh the first one I'm

017excited about because we met with a number of Staff members from lions and Winkler earlier this evening and we're going to have a presentation on the school Improvement update from these schools good evening I want the first thank you guys for having dinner with our wonderful Winkler and lion staff I want to thank our staff for showing up tonight and great numbers where we had to get extra chairs for them so thank you for the opportunity for us to present tonight and show how the Lions and Winkler staff provide a great place to learn for all students why we serve a great Community by being compassionate and committed to a comprehensive experience for all our students by lions and Winkler colleagues May both sites are great places to work I hope you heard that from

018them today as you met with them that I feel like are both schools Winkler and lions are great great places for kids because we have a truly committed and compassionate staff that are in it for kids so thank you for meeting with them and I hope our presentation shows that work for those who don't know me my name is Joel Graham and I've had an opportunity to serve at lions and Winkler as principal for the last four years my wife Sarah and I moved to Burlington 23 years ago where I started as a seventh grade science teacher I think I had one of you [Laughter] during that time along with our three children we've called Burlington and bsdr home over these 23 years I've served as a high school science teacher a high school assistant

019principal and I've coached baseball and basketball at the high school and middle school levels to keep my coaching bug alive I continue to coach sixth grade Junior demon basketball and I've previously coached with the Burlington United Soccer Club in baseball through Burlington Little League it's been amazing to serve that many students in so many different ways over my 23 years I actually had an opportunity to meet with my 2010 two team for basketball a couple weeks ago where we celebrated their conference Championship at Championship Night at the high school it was great to reconnect with what I thought were young people but aren't so young anymore so it's great to hear what their families are doing it's also great to see so many of them come back to our community and be part of the

020basd community again and have their students actually attend our schools so it's great to have former students kids and children in our buildings it's a testament to what our staff does on every given day in your packet and also on the screen I've shared a the Elementary boundary map that the work was done back in 2019 and 20. the reason I'm showing this is I want you to see who are the students that we're serving in each of those buildings so in our southernmost border which is highlighted in green that is the Winkler District that serves mainly the community of boners Lake and all the neighborhoods around it that's where we draw most of our students from at Winkler school it also borders the central wistosha Union High School District along with the Wheatland District

021at Lions you can see it's a rather vast area Alliance is highlighted in red we really serve the communities of Honey Lake along with lions and that whole western side of our district borders East Troy community Elkhorn High School in the Lake Geneva Union district so we have a large western side there to our district that lion Center draws from in the past Lions Honey Lake when we did our Elementary boundary work 60 of those students actually attended Cooper uh and when we did our redistricting those students came back to Lions to help kind of equal the numbers in each of our building but it also brought a great number of students back so we went from 83 students my first year to last year where we served over 170 students and this year we

022currently serve 156. so that school has radically changed in the four years that I've been here as principal of lions and Winkler School I'm going to turn it over to Mrs Dooley if she's in the crowd and she's going to talk a little bit about Winkler school and Who We Are so I am happy to be able to talk about Winkler Elementary School I've been there for 22 years um as a fourth grade teacher until this year as a math specialist um we were pretty we are very happy that we significantly exceeded expectations on last year's school report card so our students continue to achieve at a high level we have a student population of 126 students and that's 4K through grade five we have 4K at our school last this is our first year

023that we have them full day up until this year it was half day so we have 12 students in full day and three students that come for half the day um we have 19 staff at our school throughout the day and we get to boast 338 years of experience teaching and 14 master's degree so that we are all very proud of um and then Winkler Elementary School is celebrating 175 years in July of 2023. so some of you may know the old Winkler Elementary School sits on Highway p and it has changed hands to what it's been and the new ones it's a little farther down the road so between those two schools 175 years and we still have the original Winkler Bell outside of our building to represent the old and the new which

024is great um in interesting facts is that in 19 or 1848 it cost 130 dollars to build Winkler elementary school so that's pretty interesting and then they actually became part of basd in 1955. so that's just a little bit about Winkler here you go Joel thanks Catherine our kids I know Julie has an interesting story about the Bell that she'll share this summer so um thank you for sharing that information we do celebrate 175 years uh When Corey and I first moved into the office uh four years ago we found a box that was marked in 1900 in 3 to 1948 so it had original teacher stubs and what they were paid what it cost for a cord of wood it had the grade book what students attended what students missed the winter session what

025students missed the harvest season so it's very fascinating to get into that box and see the cost of Education back in the early 1900s so thank you for sharing that I'm going to call Kelly dicacup and she's going to talk a little bit about lions with you all right thank you all for welcoming us to present tonight my name is Kelly dicek I'm a third grade teacher at Lyons Elementary School slightly out of my comfort zone usually my target audience is eight and nine year olds but miss trost always says we can do hard things so here I am this is my 10th year in teaching and my first year here at basd I'm a town of Burlington resident and a proud mom of three children my kids attend basd my daughter's in seventh grade

026at Karcher my other two children aren't dire in first and third grade and I'm thankful to be part of a district where um that serves a community that my family is living in so at lion Center we have 156 students as Miss Dooley talked about we have 4K full day this year we have 16 full day students and three that are only with us half a day um this is our first year having before and after care and the full Day 4k we have 22 staff members many of them are here tonight and we have for uh 14 of us have master's degrees um there's only 22 staff members but we have a combined total of 304 years of service and education it's pretty amazing I'm pretty proud of that um our state report card

027we were exceeding expectations and we expect to continue that high level of achievement this year and every year to come interesting fact this is our first year lion Center School actually had a school report card we've done an alternative reporting since I started so this was the first year we actually had a regular report card because we had the group of students that could provide that data for us so we are excited like Kelly said that we are exceeding expectations and hope to continue that that work that we started last year a couple things that are unique to us that are different than all the other elementaries I know Ann talked last week and uh Phillips talk last week about Waller we're a little bit different than Waller Dyer and Cooper we are what we

028call a single section school so both of our buildings have one 5K one kindergarten one first grade one second grade one third grade one fourth grade Etc at the other buildings they have two sections of each of those grade levels so they actually have a classroom partner or a grade level partner that they can communicate with us for our staff they're kind of on their own except they have that person across town on the other side of the district that they can rely on and talk to because they're living the same world so I know Kelly dicek and Kelly dumer it makes it a lot of my life a whole lot easier because they're both named Kelly but they communicate a lot I'm just saying that because she's there I know Kayla and Megan communicate

029a lot in the first grade world because they live that similar lifestyle at school we also have a lot of shared staff I know our staff talked to many of you about that Laura jablonski sitting over here she is a shared counselor she works between Winkler and lions we have Kate Julie in the crowd that she just spoke before she's our math interventionist she spends 50 percent of her time at Winkler and 50 percent of her time at Lions we also do have our reading interventionist Michelle Jessup and Jenny mccenna doing the same thing so Michelle actually serves BCA in town Burlington Catholic along with Winkler and Jenny McKenna serves Cooper in Lions so you can kind of see that creates a uniqueness of lions and Winkler it creates a challenge when you're trying to

030schedule staff members when they're coming when they're leaving and how do we coordinate that with our other districts it really forces us as principals to really collaborate together and work together and be more unified as we work together and we're work together as five elementaries so it is a unique challenge but it is it is making us collaborate a little bit more as we work through those those issues uh also unique is I share my time obviously between lions and Winkler so that's another unique challenge as I tell my staff they hear this from me all the time my position does not work without great people and they are great people they're kind of their independent contractors I trust them to work and do their thing and they hear that from me all the time

031so it's very comforting me as a principal when I'm at one building I know the other building is taken care of before I move on to the school Improvement plan do you guys have any questions about who we are and who we serve perfect all right we're going to jump right into our theory of action we actually have three goals I know Ann had two last month uh we have one in literacy and one in our school culture I'm just going to jump into our theory of action real quick if our staff become informed in the science of reading research and best practices and utilize best practices with Hagerty and Benchmark phonic resources and provide clearly articulated learning goals that align to our K-12 curriculum then students will be engaged and Achieve grade level Proficiency

032in reading and writing that is our Theory uh our staff is going to talk a little bit about the action steps that we do on a daily basis to get that theory into place I just want to touch on our goal real quick our first goal is that 85 percent of our students in grades K through 2 will be at Benchmark on phonological awareness I would like Kate she's graciously volunteered to give a definition on what phonological awareness is because we have a phonological awareness goal and a phonic school they sound similar but they're different so thank you Kate So reading has lots of parts to it one of those parts is phonological awareness and phonological awareness refers to the fact of recognizing um spoken words um and manipulating those spoken words so rhyming realizing

033that sound there's different sounds that make up words um and breaking those words into or those sounds into syllables so it's like the very first step in learning to read and it's what you do before you would ever even look at words or books so when kids are singing songs in kindergarten or in the car with their parents before they get to school or rhyming those are the you know Stepping Stones of reading so that is what phonological awareness refers to and I'm going to have Kate our next goal is on Phonics uh 70 of our kids k-3 uh will be proficient in phonics and then grades four through five 85 of our kids those numbers are based on our historical data that we've had the last four years uh with an increase in that

034percentage of proficiency so we want to push what we've been doing in the past uh and see if we can push and increase the number of kids who are percent are at proficient at that phonics level so it's going to give the definition of phonics so phonics is kind of where you go after you phonological awareness is sound so phonics is the ability to put a sound with a letter so it's that next step that you know that duh is D and then you start putting all of those sounds and letters together to make words and then eventually sentences so phonics is your ability to know what sound goes with which letters and how they change like CH goes to Cha it's not when you sound out words so that is the definition of phonics

035thanks Kate and I just want to make make a point that these are our goals in two categories it doesn't mean that we don't cover and teach the rest of reading instruction or cover reading instruction the comprehension side the work recognition side the background knowledge the vocabulary there's a lot of things that go into reading instruction we just know these are the baselines of good readers and proficient readers and writers if you don't have a strong phonological awareness and strong phonics background the other stuff becomes difficult so we want to kind of we're going to teach everything but we're going to really get benchmarks on those two categories of phonics and phonological awareness so we're not just focusing on those two things we're focusing on the whole reading and the science of reading foreign how

036are we going to do that real quick I'm going to share a couple things that we do to put some action to those goals number one we're going to have some PD on the science of reading we've recently partnered with sisa 2 and cesa 6 to give us great uh professional development resources on the science of reading and reading instruction cesa 2 came today actually and did some walk through with our staff over at Waller and then to continue to start that process to get some data for us to talk about what best practices look like in reading and to help us really push our kids Beyond proficiency the other thing we're going to do at my 2bi Winkler and lions I asked our staff to create an SLO which is a student learning outcome

037based on literacy so 95 of our our staff kind of take out electives on that the p and the music they can still do that but they kind of they did a different goal uh they're going to focus their student learning objectives and their work this year on literacy most of them did a grade level phonics phonological awareness or comprehension goal depending on what grade level they were at foreign that I'm going to talk about quickly is our data meetings so every 12 weeks around our I already assessments we do a large data meeting so we get our counselor our school psych myself the classroom teacher the reading interventionists together and talk about the data that that student is gaining in the classroom we're going to look at the iready we're going to look at

038their formative and summative assessments that the teachers are doing their overall observations we're going to get a snapshot of what that student is doing what they might be struggling with what they might be doing really well with and then we're gonna in that meeting we're going to talk about that and create an action plan for that student if they're struggling we're going to get them extra support and intervention if they're doing really well we want to see if we can get them in Richmond so I'll use Kate duly as an example in math she is really good if a student is doing really well she's there to provide enrichment resources for that student meet with them periodically she'll talk about math challenges and a math calendar that she provides students later tonight but that's what

039that data meeting is there what's the root cause behind their problem try to figure it out and move on the other meetings we do are called I.T meetings they're not technology meetings but they're called Intervention teacher meetings when I first took over uh there was a lot of hallway conversation about children and where they were and our reading interventionists would promise the world through all the classroom teachers I can take them and I can get this done and we can do this and all of a sudden Michelle is there with 35 kids when it should have been a small group setting so to formalize those conversations which are great conversations to have because they're collaborating to formalize that we created what we call an intervention teacher meeting that meeting takes place every six weeks where

040we talk about students that are getting pulled out support that are struggling in a particular area of reading the intervention and teach interventionists and the teacher get together and they talk about what's working what's not working do we need to switch a group do we need to switch the intervention and it really formalizes that process but it really gets us thinking about what students are struggling with or what they're really good with so those three steps are those two meetings I should say have really helped the process and get kids and know where they're at and where we need to grow them for the rest of the time I'm going to pull up Kelly first and she's going to talk a little bit about her PLC work and then Ruthie trost is a special ed

041teacher she's going to talk about some support that we give students and then Kate will talk about math support so um PLC time we have District level twice a month we get together virtually through all of our grade level team so I teach third grade get together with every third grade teacher and I happen to just go to the English language arts PLC my counterpart kellydummer at Winkler she goes to the math and then we get together and collaborate so twice a month we get together with the whole district and then on those um other either the two or the three Tuesdays that are left of the month we have the opportunity to collaborate so that we can fill in each other since we're single sections we can fill in each other what is going

042on in those other um in those other subject areas um so we explore the essential skills and how to implement them in our daily lessons we share resources so we're not recreating the wheel every single time we want something um and we use common assessments across the district so if a student moves and they have to go to a different school they should be pretty close to where they um left off from their previous School we have building level plc's as well where I already said we work with our Winkler counterparts but also sometimes we do vertical um where we work with a teacher that's above us or below us just to bounce ideas off of them say hey what are you working on in this area and then it really helps us to kind

043of know how to get the kids from where they're coming from to where they need to be for the next level foreign hello I'm Ruthie trost special education teacher at Lions I was asked to talk about skills time um this is a great thing we get to do for all students at Lions our skill time is a data driven instructional time where teachers work with students from kindergarten through fifth grade and small groups to Target their academic needs whether it's focused on filling um their academic needs or whether it's the one whether it's focusing on filling learning gaps or enrichment lessons all students are challenged academically in skills time at Lions it's all hands on deck from classroom teachers to specialists teachers and Specialists work together to collect data from i-Ready reports State Testing classroom

044assessments and teacher observations we use all this classroom data to help us create groups and Target our instruction for optimal learning these groups focus and students may change as we do fluid groups if we're learning we may move to a different group with throughout the year as the team reacts to the growth we have the data meetings that Joel was talking about to discuss the student growth and the best instructional practices so as teachers start off maybe in a phonological group we progress and it might turn into a comprehension group for needs all of this is done in the group atmosphere where we collaborate with our data and our student growth I also have as a special education teacher social skills and emotional regulation skills that aren't exactly part of our skills time but part

045of my pull out to strengthen our Learning Community thank you all right so I'm going to talk about my role as a math specialist at both schools so I go to lions and Winkler as the math specialist there are times where I'm pushing into the classroom and supporting the teacher and students within the classroom to help them meet grade level goals grade level standards and I work closely with those teachers and we are working as a team to help students and then there are students that benefit more if I pull them out and work with them in a small group on the skills that they need to be successful either with grade level standards or to help fill areas that they need extra practice on from previous grade levels so they can be successful with

046grade level standards I work egg I pull out about 34 students at both schools and we work on a variety of skills that they need to support them so that they can get back into the classroom and be successful in addition to that as the math specialist at the schools I support the teachers I've done some math training so helping them if they aren't too sure about our curriculum I also do math challenges and math calendars at my school so every week I put out a new math challenge for one for kindergarten first and second grade and then third and fifth grade and it's just optional but it gives students an opportunity to think outside the box and to think differently about math and to solve the problem and get it to me by the

047end of the week I also every month create what I call a math calendar and it focuses I make two different ones and then they focus on grade levels or they focus on States standards that these students need to acquire so I kind of try and hit the most important standards like expanded form story problems and the students are required to do about 15 of the activities a month for the calendar and then they bring it back to school and hand it in and I have about you know 20 to 30 calendars at each school that I get back every month so I've been very happy with the number of students at it are taking on that challenge perfect thank you for sharing and then everybody lies in said everybody loves cute pictures so there's

048some uh skills group times some reading uh we do partner reading sometimes with fourth and first grade but as you can see a lot of our teachers have individual classroom libraries that they utilize a lot any questions comments I just had a comment it's so nice to see phonics taught again because reading is kind of like a cycle they go through them but boy don't mention the word phonics because everything's a sight word and then it goes to all phonics and no sight words and I think we've kind of I'm glad to see that everything's being done and the phonetics they brought back in thanks we're going to move it thank you we're going to move on to our last goal which is our cultural goal if we focus on community building restorative practices in

049PBIS and work together collaboratively to provide a safe and welcoming environment then all students will feel safe in our school Community I'm going to have Laura jablonski jump up here Laura is our counselor at both buildings and she's going to talk a little bit about actually how we do that when our morning meetings and Community Circle time good evening I'm Laura jablanski I've been with Burlington area school district for 18 years now I've had plenty of you and plenty of your kiddos so these are all familiar faces here tonight um thank you for welcoming us um and sharing your time with us this evening um coming from the high school I've now had the opportunity to serve as the elementary school counselor last year I was at Winkler in Cooper and this year I am

050at Winkler and lions um and that's been a really exciting shift to go from working with the big kids to the little kids um now the capacity that I work in as a school counselor is helping with that social emotional learning um and that's what really helps promote a positive School culture and it's what makes Winkler and lions a great place to learn the focus of the counseling department at the elementary level for the past two years has really been a big push to provide universal access to our students for to our social emotional learning curriculum or SEL curriculum um which previously had been a little siled to all of the different schools and now there's been a big push and effort to align those across the district and that's helping to support um that

051universal access to all of our students and an equitable approach to our SEL curriculum two of the vehicles that we do that with at all of our schools are the morning announcements um so every day no matter what elementary school you go to in Burlington our students are receiving the same message that's helping to build that classroom community and to support our SEO curriculum throughout the week we have a different Focus for each day and different activities and materials that are shared in the classroom um and they're all really cute with alliterative titles because that's what keeps it fun so we have mindful Mondays which teach calming and coping strategies teachable Tuesdays are often related to College and Career Readiness even at the lower levels it gets kids thinking about that we might tie it

052to holidays or special events and occasions at the school wonderful Wednesdays are a day we focus on diversity equity and inclusion and self-esteem thoughtful Thursdays we promote Civic engagement at home school and in the community and we have fun fridays too where we promote physical fitness and get the kids up and moving at some point throughout the day so the announcements have been a way to kind of unify our district message in the classroom but it's also available online everybody has access to it parents can see how the kids are starting the day and then that brings me to our community Circle time because we often tie our discussion question each day to the topic of that day's theme so part of our restorative practices and a small component of that is community circles we

053it did not invent anything new this has been around forever you guys probably I'll head carpet time when you were in school now we just have a name for it and it's Community circles um that helps students kind of build that classroom Community they learn empathy and it gives them a chance to share their voice each day they might not choose to answer a question in class the rest of the day but they know that they can save something up every morning or afternoon and share that little part of their lives with their classmates and that gives every student a chance to be heard um so our community circles many times might be light-hearted and fun things like invent an ice cream flavor but it might also be a time that encourages them to build

054that empathy and think about a time when this has happened to you have you ever done this to somebody else and kind of lay those building blocks of empathy foreign another area we are focusing in to build that universal access to our SEL curriculum is now aligning our lessons across the district again going from silos to that uh what is universal for all of our students what our first tier lessons that all students are exposed to in the work we're doing today just came from our restorative practices committee where we started looking at 4K and 5K lessons and aligning them to the castle standards that's the collaborative for academic social and emotional learning so just a nationwide organization that focuses on social awareness self-awareness self-management decision making and relationship skills and then the end goal

055is that from 4K to fifth grade all of those different skills will be taught at some point and reinforced in our weekly lessons so it's all really exciting work especially coming out of the pandemic when I think we've all agreed that what we're able to offer to our students and even in the community for mental health support um you know there's never enough resources um and never enough we can do in school is one place where we can get some of these to our kiddos and support them and the families and in our community so thank you thanks Laura for sharing that all right you can the other things that we do up there we do uh holiday events and Yeehaw tickets and Paul points that's a way to recognize positive behavior in our school

056uh Kate and Kelly dumer at Winkler and our PE Department Ron kidhart's challenge that's a great way to get kids active and engaged it gives them a fun day in Spring where they can um actively engage in an obstacle course so these are just a fun few pictures Miss Jennifer here with our friend 4K friend at lions and out his avocado shirt it just cracks me up every time so he's amazing and he had toilet roll binoculars just a couple fun things I do get on the sled once in a while with the kids so I bring out my inner Elementary I'm gonna just quickly scroll through these I'm just going to call one more person up here before we get into the last part of it and that's Cory Bush uh Corey is just

057gonna give one example why both Winkler in lines is a great place to work and then we'll wrap it up Corey bush I know right um I am the secretary and health aide at Winkler School I've been there for four years um or in the middle of my fourth year um I came from Healthcare at 20 years in healthcare and then moved to higher education and needed a giant step in a different direction to a nicer environment with work-life balance um one thing I did want to talk about is just kind of the unique challenges and joys of being part of the Winkler and kind of lions as we all kind of work together um the one thing that I really um I love is to be able to greet everybody at the door first

058thing in the morning all of our staff although there's some that sneak in the side door and I hate that but I don't know you're there yet so but I do love that I get to greet most of the kids most of our staff quite a few parents at the front um and that then I get to help everybody I get to help the kids staff parents and those are kind of the joys of my day being the health aide I get to make sure everybody's feeling well um you know just overall health-wise but also just like are you having a good day are things going okay and I feel like kids trust me and I know Jane can attune to that as well she's there my counterpart over at Lions um the other thing

059is that my job is funny almost all the time um and again I think most people can attune you know can attest to that as well as that we do have a um kind of a pretty cool occupation that you know there's not a day that goes by that we're not correct enough about something so I appreciate that I also enjoy getting kind of nerdy about spreadsheets Google Docs um newsletters I do Facebook posts um and also work on the budget and again you know with Jane so I have this like really unique um ability in my job to have some autonomy um but also get to work with some amazing people and help a wide variety of folks throughout my day and again I can Jane um gets to play the same game so

060we get to work together um on that I love that we do have this balance um through our day um that we get to kind of feed all these needs and that I get to work with these hard-working intelligent um really passionate folks in our school so um I think I think that's it yeah all right thanks very much thank you just I'm going to quickly go through this these are things that we do to serve a great thanks Corey for sharing that she helps me along with Jane really helped me organize these events that are on the board that help us get our kids out into the community or to bring in the community to us so a couple years back we we started Corey Jane and I started the bus tours and neighborhood

061visits that we get kids out in the beginning of the of the Year where we go see where the kids live and meet them at their bus stop um we do Winkler Arbor View thank you Julie Caufield she continues that partnership with our review uh out at the Winkler site where our kids go and play cards sing um and meet with with the residents over there so it's a great activity for us to do we have two active ptos that are amazing and we have a lot of people that come in and out of our building and just a few pictures of those so those are our bus tours neighborhood stops we did a hygiene drive at Lions Walworth County Sheriff's Department stops in periodically and helps support our students they play Four Square Foursquare

062with them uh basketball you name it they're in there and I just want to leave it uh we do have totally awesome kids Pat Hoffman used to say it all the time our community sends their best and brightest to us we like Corey said enjoy every minute of it it's a stitch some days uh it's hard some days but as I told you before we have a super committed compassionate staff that love to serve kids so I hope we saw that I hope you saw that today and their passion and their comments today and Mary Ellen fincutter thank you for doing the it's no secret we're a great school she always has the best bulletin boards so and like Laura said at the high school you don't get that you get these wonderful bulletin boards

063in the elementary world foreign thank you for your time and if you have questions feel free to reach out any board members before Joel leaves have any questions comments yeah Joel thank you [Applause] I just want to comment too I'm very appreciative I mean I think we have a very healthy representation of both schools here tonight so thanks for getting up your time I know it's a long day too and uh um you're welcome to stick around for the rest of the meeting we'd encourage that but you're also you wouldn't offend anybody if you want to leave because I know you'll be facing a lot of elementary kids in 12 hours or so so yeah um next item for information discussion is a public comment at board meetings it's one of our policies and this

064is gonna be our first reading this is something we discussed at our last board meeting just one small tweak it's going to be removing um it's more of a procedural thing but we had a policy saying that no one can speak more than one set of meetings we're we're tweaking that because you could obviously speak on both at the the general public portion you can also speak on items for action um so no again no action required this is the first of two Board of uh two readings of this policy anybody any comments or anything on that okay hearing done let's go on to our last item for information discussion uh this is our ongoing uh policy review we started this a few months ago too where we're pulling out a couple of policies from

065um our policy manual and these again these are all online so if you want to look pull up our district website you can find all of our school board policies uh this month we selected two policies that um were interesting maybe it's premature but we're starting to think of graduation um policy 54 63 and 64 54 64. uh the first one is involving credits from non-public schools I think this is an interesting policy because we may not think of it I've lived in Burlington um for a long time and my kids have gone to school only in Burlington but we do get kids transferring in from other districts other states and from private and parochial schools so I think uh Steve I thought you might have some interesting things to highlight on this policy just

066to you know help us understand the challenges of this thank you yeah the one thing I was going to add when when Peter mentioned this policy was just the immense amount of work that the people services staff particularly at the at the high school do when it comes to students that are frankly coming in and might be coming from a private or parochial school or maybe from a home school and they have no transcript or they're on a trimester and we're on a semester and so the the challenges are are real and and as Laura sits here is probably having done lots of that over the years it's just an interesting policy for maybe the board to be reminded of to reread or review um one thing that we're seeing quite a bit of that

067has been one of the sort of boomerangs of the pandemic is is home-based learning too where you know student may be out for a couple of years then come back to the public school and trying to reconcile those credits and that time out is is no small task and that transcript review process is is pretty intense so just uh this was a policy that Peter grabbed and just thought I'd mentioned that the times are changing but it's no less difficult than it's ever been anybody else in the board have any comments on this particular policy no and the second one's early graduation and uh I've got a student who's a senior this year at BHS and I know Joe and Corey Bush I think you have a senior also so this one was top of

068mind for me that I wouldn't mind uh well no I shouldn't say that the uh um but this also ties into our policy on graduation requirements so that's 54.60 and you know we need 23 credits to graduate and you need it within certain four credits of English for example at the high school level to graduate and uh there are certain requirements but we do have the option for students who are who have met all these requirements they can graduate a semester early and maybe they need to you know they'll go into the workforce or start college early or Technical College so there's a it's interesting and they do have the right then to participate in the graduation ceremony at the end of the year so we have flexibility I guess built into our system anybody

069else have any comments or want to talk about these okay then uh I guess for next month I'd ask for somebody to uh if anyone on the board wants to volunteer to pick a couple other policies or one or two or three policies that'd be great that they're interested in talking about I can pick it up again if no one else is going to all right perfect I think the goal too is not obviously is we're not going to review all our policies every medium but it's just to highlight and kind of get us um you know it's an important part of the board is to uh dig into our policies so this is a chance for us to at least scratch the surface and look at a couple policies every every month that's it

070for the items for information and discussion we do have eight items for Action so it's a busy month for that the first item is a student Chromebooks so I Dan Wagner's here he's RIT director oh did I say sorry Dave Wagner I just met him earlier tonight so forgive me good evening um some of you may or may not know my name is Dave Wagner um been here 20 years Scott Christensen retired back in the end of June and the district appointed me head of the department so I promise I'll keep this short and sweet I know everybody's time is valuable um excuse me so when I come to you before you tonight is uh we're at the end of our Chromebook lease this at the end of this school year as a four-year lease

071so what happens this upcoming summer we collect them all and then we the company that gave us the last lease uh we uh send them they come pick them all up evaluate them and they give us a nominal fee I think I didn't look at the last lease but I think it was ten dollars per Chromebook at 3 000 Chromebooks that's 30 000 that hope so I'll set the cost of some of this lease it's really a pretty good deal um I don't have um all of you received the lease proposal I think to see uh it's pretty self-explanatory the past two to three months I've done a lot of research on this to try to get the best deal for the school district um a lot of vendors cannot uh bid on Lenovo Chromebooks

072I think they have to have it be a reseller of that so not everybody could just hand me a bid for this so we I went with two different companies that we've dealt with in the past to get the best deal um it is a four-year lease and you'll see the equipment costs there of 931 000 that doesn't match the proposals that that you guys have and let me explain that a little bit um I I also included uh two iMac Labs at the high school as part of this proposal those iMacs are about seven years old um their end of life and they need to be replaced multimedia uses those and the art and they do our they do higher end stuff Final Cut Pro some Adobe stuff that they need a much more

073powerful machine I can't afford that out of my budget to just replace all those computers so I thought it would be the best deal to incorporate them into this lease and spread out over four years um we're not doing the fixed buyout program the payments you'll see there just a little over 250 000 every year in my budget that's roughly what we put in there for give or take a little bit but if you take the 30 000 we'll get back it basically will lower that spread out over four years down to about quarter million which is right in line with where we're at um and part of that lease does incorporate the go Guardian which is our Chromebook filter the setup of them the licensees and all that so we are going to do

074the remarketing rebate again at the end of the year at the four years we're not going to probably do them for the max because we're going to keep using those Macs they have a more of a life than the four years so we'll get another Thirty One Thousand hopefully roughly now some are damaged so we won't get anything for those but hopefully we get a little bit of fee for that so um other than that um I was hoping to get this approved tonight I do appreciate your support of this um I wanted to jump on this as quick as we could because as you know it is hard to find Electronics today and I was able to get 3 100 of these um hopefully I can call the people tomorrow and lock them in

075because I don't want to go too long because I don't know if we're going to be able to get that many if we go too far down the road because as you know it's hard to get stuff nowadays especially Electronics so but this really is a great initiative that we implemented probably seven years ago or so but these Chromebooks we have already to be turned back in so they're pretty beat up a lot of them so looking forward again some new ones um so I do want to say kudos to none of my staff is here tonight but I got a great staff uh Gino's been here for over 30 years many of you know her um Miley uppers is a retired teacher from Karcher does all the Chromebook stuff and I'm pretty proud we

076were able to hire a new gentleman uh Charles Burch who's a 2020 graduate of the school district so it's pretty cool comes in full circle so it's working great so other than that I won't take much else of your time um so I was just looking to hopefully get approval so I can lock in another Chromebooks for another four years to keep the kids learning so all right I'd entertain a motion to approve the contract for the Chromebooks any comments or questions for Dave uh the proposals that came in don't all match they've all got different terms and different items included in them at least as written on the documentation are we sure we're comparing Apples to Apples between these vendors yeah some of the ones it basically I know the trafira one didn't itemized

077stuff out per se you know and then the it Savvy one put a lot of other stuff on there that wasn't really needed per se but it is it's apples for apples it's The Accidental protection that we when they're fixed out of here they we used to try to do it in-house it just got to be way too much so it's The Accidental protection the Google licensing the go guardian and the actual Chromebook itself so there's basically four items that are apples to apples sorry Barry some of that first coal was a little convoluted but it is Apples to Apples of what we're getting and I made sure that when I had them quoted out the I.T Savvy one there's a little bit more stuff in there than might have needed to been but um

078they are actually very comparable they are comparable exactly to what we're getting is the Lenovo preferred because of a management product or that fell basically it was it was a solid Chromebook and it fell within our price range so the Cadillac of it was like 280 a piece which is way more than we could afford so we got it we were happy with it we demoed a few of them and it fell within the price range that we could have at the school district or I could afford out of our budget so but we're pretty pretty happy with the unit that we're hopefully going to get so okay thank you yep any other comments one other question uh any discussion tonight actually as a district didn't we and we may have changed this and I

079just forgot didn't we have a policy where all the like kindergarten through second grade got iPads instead of Chromebooks and now we're moving everyone to Chromebooks somebody have to refresh me I wasn't part a lot of this when these decisions were made I was Scott did a lot of this stuff and from my understanding that was changed I don't know when kindergartners got the one-to-one Chromebooks I was going to say in in it pushed even more firmly during Colvin yeah when when it went to the kindergarten in first grade and taking them home yeah okay was the cost sorry it was the cost predominantly from gotcha and Barry we still do have some iPads out there and I've been talking to some of the principals a little bit and teachers are they still using or

080not they're still using them some are um so I think I'm going to try to replace a few of them not all I can't replace all 25 per classroom with the talk was maybe to do centers a little bit so five six per room the kids could rotate them so they can start to do more of the newer apps that they couldn't do on the old ones but the sense is that the thing is more the Chromebook use right now than the iPads but some people still do use the iPad so I'm going to try to buy some more of them I just can't buy that huge of a quantity plus I don't know it would be justified in the use that they're actually using the iPads anymore but some are being used so yeah

081good question thank you for that uh anything else then I'll call for a vote uh all in favor proving the Chromebook contracts AI opposed name right passes all right thank you all right thank you for your support thank you second item for action will be a presentation of a cost proposal for professional auditing Services it'll be pretty short quick so um every year we are required to have an audit done of our financial records three years ago we bid this out um but we also put in the um a clause in that audit proposal that with satisfactory performance we would extend or consider extending that their services for three more years so we've had um quickly I believe they're on a Madison and we are happy with them so they did give us a quote

082for three more years a little higher than I was expecting but um like the rest of um probably the world uh inflation has hit them as much as the rest of us so um they did give us a quote for the next three years um they will reduce that by two thousand dollars a year if we perform the audit remotely the majority of our audit we do that way anyway so that's a no-brainer we just they have a secure website we upload everything to and um kind of email with questions so we can have knocked two thousand dollars off of those three years so 23 25 and 27. um this past year we paid 17 but if I looked back at the other proposals we got from three years ago they ranged from um 21

083000 to 26.5 so certainly still within the ballpark of a reasonable cost um and then at the end of those three years we would bet it out again you'll also notice on there um a separate line item for the charter school which is our next um action item but that would require a a little extra audit work so that's why you're seeing that spelled out and then a membership audit they um State requires us to audit um our pupil count that we've compiled that correctly accurately generally it's every four years they select 25 percent of the schools every year unless you have a lot of Errors when you get an audit but we just had one done last year so um either three or four years yet so we I would only anticipate one of

084those years so if you wouldn't mind approving us to work with Ripley for three more years um with the understanding that were to be done remotely and then we'll bid it out at the end of those three years I would appreciate it I entertain a motion to approve the Whitley contract second okay emotions have made in a second any comments I'll just comment Ruth is the statutory requirement that we have to audit our financials I wonder how they would audit the membership that seems to be pretty easy but maybe it's harder than I think it is a lot of work to compile and the you know it's called the kids twice and they check the addresses and okay my initial impression I could do that in 10 minutes but um it's a lot of work

085um any other comments okay hearing none will call for a vote all in favor say aye aye opposed nay all right passes thanks Ruth all right thank you uh next up is the wisco um online learning Charter School so let's talk Charter School how about are you ready you guys ready yeah sure okay um I am just wanting to share who's next to me here this is Mandy Adams she's our virtual learning coordinator um and I will give her some looks every once in a while like do you want to add anything um and if she wants to great otherwise uh I'll kind of Take the Lead here so as you know kind of presented to you a few months back that there was a desire for us to look into engaging in uh Charter

086School the main why for this was one to really start to increase our comprehensive opportunities for students we also believe this will increase our enrollment and revenue as a school district as we've shared before we have about a 50 students who open enroll out for virtual reasons we also have about a hundred students in districts that are homeschool families so wanting to one start off with trying to recoup those two groups but also try to see if we can start to increase our enrollments for open enrollment in when it comes to Virtual opportunities and through that process we learned that the only way you can do that is if you have a charter school because you cannot accept open enrollments unless you have a charter school so um first and foremost though really wanting to

087see uh if this will really start to add as another option for comprehensive opportunities for students the program the charter school would be called Wisconsin connect Charter School a lot of intentionality behind the use of the word Wisconsin connect and you can see that we are still using our orange and black demon Burlington colors that was intentional as well but really wanting to look at ensuring that if families were to do a search engine for a virtual school that our school would show up because when we searched for it quite a few school districts are using the word Wisconsin within theirs so we kind of want to get that competitive advantage and also include that in ours so our charter school would be called Wisconsin connect in short wisco okay then once you uh start

088to want to have a charter school you have to engage in a governance board we rallied a group of board members together and you can see on our list there Joe Bush uh gladly accepted to become the governance board president um Joe is pretty funny I think it was meeting two he said I'm not really sure what I'm doing here because uh yeah I don't I don't have kids in this we said that's exactly why um so Joe's been doing a great job Jamie Cook also she's vice president Bonnie trophy is the clerk I will serve as Treasurer and Mandy Adams our virtual learning coordinator is one of the members we met three times in December to morsel work through what the contract and bylaws look like and then also we met once here in

089January prior to just to make sure everything's buttoned up for Signature tonight Peter no pressure yeah no pressure right so contract highlights they're uh the contract as you saw was 18 pages long just thought we'd highlight some really overarching things here to make sure if you didn't have time to read all 18 pages that you at least all are on the same page with what that contract really says so within the contract the big things to take away from it is what does the burlingtonian school district still oversee and it's really probably important to think about the charter school is just a school that is umbrella still underneath the Burlington area school district okay so it is not like a separate entity altogether it is a school that would fall underneath the basd umbrella all

090the financial implications and decisions are still made by the Burlington area school district okay so that means All Staffing curriculum materials and needs that we would um decide to purchase any professional development for the staff members that are within the charter school the insurance coverage as roots has shared the auditing firm also what building use we would use within the district would be determined by US based on where is there space within our buildings already where the charter school could sit and we'll talk about why we might need space for that second and then also who evaluates the staff members within the charter school and I would oversee that and or designee and then if you look at the other side what is the governance board oversee they would submit any budget requests operations procedures

091that they would like to see done the calendar daily schedule May look different than the Burlington Area School District calendar one thing really small is we are looking to use the Burlington calendar but we do want to change the logo so that it says Wisconsin connect on the calendar and we have like staggered start at the beginning of the school year right wisco would not have that sacred start but we might stagger how students start at the beginning of school year things like that but we more so would be following exactly the same calendar that basd has uh the governance board would all could also submit forward curriculum and instruction requests notice how it says requests because again on the other side the district is the one approving those and then any policies and procedures

092that are unique to the charter school would also be things the governance board could put together know that the governance board right now has decided to go with all the same policies that basd has in place there aren't any policies that are different at this time and then marketing registration and the enrollment process would also fall underneath the governance board side any questions with this that's good that's good okay enrollment into wisco so who can enroll in wisco so any students within 4K through 12th grade are students that we would accept into wisco the governance board would normally set enrollment limits by December 1 and then submit those to the board by January 1 just like Joel is sharing open enrollment data tonight how we share how many seats we have within the district same

093kind of concept for the charter school we did not set any an enrollment limits for this next school year because you know we haven't started yet so we don't really want to set a limit at this point but come next school year in December the governance board would bring that forward if there is indeed the need to set any cap then um if we were to meet an enrollment limit then we would start to engage in a random Lottery um kind of service and uh preference would be given to students who have students already in the wisco program so if a third grader is in wisco in a 4K or comes in that four care would get preference because they have a sibling that's already in wisco we would engage in a waiting list and

094we would use that through September 1 to fill any seats if students do come and go that sometimes happens and then that waiting list would go away after September one and then know that the Open Enrollment applicants would always be contingent on the school district so again it kind of comes down to those numbers in January and deciding if we're full not full as a district what would be the reason that we'd be full you know Kevin if we all of a sudden have a thousand students wanting to be in wisco maybe at that point we'd maybe set a limit it's that's a good question I don't know that we would yeah um but if some staffing it would Staffing Staffing would definitely come into play but more so if the enrollment goes up then

095we would staff accordingly for that um for sure but um as the year goes on I think that'll be a really good question and something that we'll pay attention to um as we go forward it'll be interesting to see how it goes thank you well that kind of goes about what I was thinking about I know we talked about this in the past but how is how is it operating again because I know we talked about how wisco like it's an online platform right but just wait a minute you're all right yeah it's coming up it's coming all right but yes if you have questions at the end um that I that we didn't answer you feel free so how will we engage um families so the governance board according to a charter school does

096have to have a parent advisory so we will establish that and we put in our contract that that would meet twice per school year more so we're thinking the parent advisory would be parents of students who are in the wisco program looking for feedback from them in order to improve and then also we plan on having biannual meetings to inform families about wisco those would be more like open house type of meetings right so what what is wisco I heard about this I kind of have some Curiosity on it so also wanting to have bi-annual meetings in that regard then additional highlights within the contract the students who would be in wisco would also engage in State Testing so that would be forward exam for the elementaries and EC pre-act and act at the high

097school level we also decided that we would allow the charter student students to use our district assessment screeners so that would be I ready if the parents wanted to engage their students in a screener and or a chalk talk at the high school level and again following those discipline policies like I shared including discipline I put that one in there because it specifically spells it out separately within the charter school contract but we did mention that we would follow the same disciplinary procedures that basd has we will of course ensure that the teachers are appropriately licensed you cannot charge tuition okay and then the district will determine if wisco is the most appropriate program for any in all students so this isn't something that we would just accept no matter what a good example two

098of a potential denial would be a student who has been expelled from a different School District or if we've known that this program isn't working or they've been in our program and it's not working for them anymore and they try to come back you know things like that just to ensure that the program really is appropriate for all students we also uh in the contract made mentioned that students may use the basd transportation if they're a student of wisco and we we wanted to really emphasize may not because let's say a wisco student is up in the Appleton area then we're not going to be transporting them to basd but if they lived within the basd residential area and they were asking about transportation that would be potentially a different story then access to the

099lunch program is also a possibility and we will use our Skyward which is our student information system for wisco as well okay here you go up here so wisco student experience so there are a few different options for families to engage in wisco so the first choice would be if they want to be fully online so they'll be fully virtual and we would offer this kindergarten through 12th grade so not for 4K but starting in kindergarten and the program we utilize is called the virtual Learning Network we for short vln we've been using vln all year this year and it is a replacement if you will for Jedi so maybe that's a good framework for you to think through is that a fully virtual student is someone that would be taking advantage of Jedi in

100the past we would our contract is going to end with Jedi at the end of this school year and then we would roll forward using vln vln comes out of [Music] um Pennsylvania and they uh we would be utilizing all of their teachers and their curricular materials and we pay into having seats if you will through their partnership we would also though Supply a local coach for support they do have a coaching program within um the vendor like within uh the virtual Learning Network they they do have where you can touch base with students that way but we've noticed that our local students would prefer to touch base with Mandy or someone that is in District so that is an adjustment we would make to ensure that we have that the second option would be

101hybrid so this is where students could engage in some classes online but some classes either book based or in person so we do have some students at the middle school and high school that are engaging in this already right now sometimes it's for mental health sometimes it's a medical condition anxiety things like that are usually the cases sometimes behavior in regards to why we would engage in a hybrid model but again that's where some of the classes would be done in person within one of our buildings we would again always Supply a local coach for those students as well we've noticed the need for the local Coach because that person is really making sure that the students are staying engaged and caught up with their work and if they're in need of any supports or

102help that we are in the know on that for Jedi we never had a local Coach and not as much of a connection there so we didn't really know if a student was not doing well and Jedi would contact us 12 weeks in student hasn't been doing anything and that kind of bothers us that we don't know enough about what's going on so this this is going to be much more beneficial for the students and for the school district and then that third option is the book based option and this one would be for 4K through 8th grade this could be really appealing for a homeschool family so we met Mandy I shouldn't say we Mandy met with some families and wanted to talk through like what would the district need to do to have

103you engage with basd and when talking with those families they really wanted to be able to have a homeschool opportunity but they didn't want to have to do virtual work on the computer so yes you have a virtual program basd but I don't want my students sitting on the computer the whole time I want them to have books at home so that's what the book based program would be we are looking at a few different vendor options that we would purchase curricular packages for the families and they would have let's say a first grade curricular package and or it could have some things for first grade some from second it kind of depends on the student's level and we would provide those curricular materials to the families and then our local Coach would check in

104with that family and work through ensuring that we're seeing that the family is progressing forward we still have to work out with the Kinks on all of that looks like some sort of portfolio some kind in regard to how that is being reported back to us on how the student is performing so that's the book based example and then the other piece that family shared with Mandy that they were really wanting was some sort of an enrichment day so if I'm a homeschool student I still want my uh my kiddos to be able to come in for at least one day and get some experiences within a school setting so that enrichment day would be once per week they would have time with their local Coach or local teacher and then also take PE art

105music and potentially some other electives again once a week within our schedule that's where when you saw on the contract that the district would decide where the charter school might be located would be for things like this so we have five elementary schools our enrichment opportunity wouldn't happen at all five elementary schools it would happen where we noticed that we have the Staffing and the classroom space in order to do that so these are high level not getting into the nitty-gritty weeds of what it all looks like but these are the three different options that would fall underneath Wisconsin connect Charter School do you have any questions now yes I guess you had a question on the opportunity once per week we're talking high school once per week they'd go to music or you know

106like I just wonder about you know the kids that are in a full-time music program they're just going to pop in once a week the enrichment day where anticipating would only be for 4K through 8th grade right now thank you yeah what's been the experience with the virtual Learning Network versus Jedi has it been a positive Improvement I think it makes it so it looks like a Mandy question she's ready to go the we've had a lot of families that were doing Jedi have now come over through wisco and it has been phenomenal feedback um we had a family who was very hesitant to do wisco because they didn't have a good experience with Jedi and is now a very high advocate of trying to actually keep his son virtual as we move forward because

107it's been that great of an experience for them and that is consistent from student experience and family experience and parents paid back for us did they say what made it better so there are a couple pieces of it one is that local support So currently I meet with every single one of our virtual kids at least once a week if not multiple depending on the individual student need in addition to that we our online program provides a physical textbook for all of their courses so they're not actually online reading they are able to actually have a book in front of them which is a big piece the third aspect is that the whole system is in one platform so they have one login and all of their classes are listed they communicate with their teacher

108in that same platform they have their grade book in the same platform everything's in one place whereas the in the past that wasn't the same case yeah can I ask another question without the danger getting into the weeds I had a daughter who took German through Jedi but that was the only experience she had in the online platform is that still option then through the virtual Learning Network and was it we should be considered a wisco student then for that portion of the day yes so she would be concerned a wisco student um with German in particular we also have Vanguard which is where we have some college classes through that aspect so depending on the World Language it might be they might do through Vanguard or through wisco it would just depend on where

109is the really the best fit for that student and if it's strictly online or if they want the synchronous learning which is what Vanguard can offer as well okay about stem offerings or English language Learners is that I'll cover it under all this yep so there actually is with um English language Learners there's a full course structure all the way from kindergarten up that goes from very foundational skills all the way up to the highest level of closing those gaps so that area can be fully covered all the way from kindergarten up and then with stem we have I want to say it was 294 course offerings all the way from the core areas through electives through College and Career Readiness through personal life skills including stem classes electives AP classes we do have about

110seven kids right now who are taking an AP class through wisco this semester the keyword opportunity on the enrichment so that's not mandatory for all students they can just choose if they want to attend that or not so families will have the opportunity to choose if they want to do the enrichment day if they choose not to do the enrichment day they will just have to have a check in with that local Coach once a week if they do the enrichment day that check-in will happen at that time thank you we say optional to Barry because again a book pace could be appealing to someone that's up in Appleton and want to enroll in Wisconsin connect but the the they could drive down here once a week if they wanted to for that enrichment day

111but the likelihood of that is not there right so that's where that flexibility on the students who would want to engage in and the enrichment day is going to be there and really a fully online student or a book-based student could either one could engage in that enrichment day thank you okay finally um one uh probably asking questions about the financial impact on basd so the staffing needs we would have for next school year this is anticipated um is our virtual learning coordinator so that's Mandy and then also looking to utilize current Staffing for our election our elective sections so again it it is only looking for staffing needs once a week right so we're saying only on Wednesday we need PE art music so already working with the elementary principals on this and we

112already have a plan for what we believe will work out fabulously for this an advisory teacher would be that local Coach we also have some thoughts of where we could utilize Staffing for that and then administrative needs thinking secretarial clerical would be taken care of here at the district office with the Staffing that we have already when looking at expenses we would need 25 students to enroll in wisco and it could really be any combination of fully virtual and or book based but we went right now with if we had 15 fully virtual and 10 bookbase that's how many we would need in order to fully cover the expenses on the left uh just so you know one student who is fully virtual cost us about thirty five hundred dollars in a book-based student is

113about a thousand um for materials so any uh any exceeding of that 25 enrollments we may need to adjust our staffing and I say may because we'll start learning how many students can the program sustain and how many how many students can each the local Coach take care of before we would need to engage in another local Coach so this is an additional way to secure that loss of loss of Revenue correct so if a kid wants to go to Waterford we keep him here because of this we're still getting that 10 11 000 per people correct yep so to help kind of show some of that when you look at the numbers here on this slide so current in District virtual did you want to talk about it okay okay uh these numbers were

114as of last week Thursday um 39 students currently enrolled either fully online or in a hybrid mode in one of our buildings at this point we cannot do the book based offering until we are an official charter school so right now we are do only have the numbers for online of fully and fully online or hybrid so that's broken down by we have 16 students who are doing a hybrid schedule for whatever the personal need of that student one of the things I've prided myself on so far this year is we have really met the need of every individual student that has come to us if that is for mental health if that is for physical health if that is for um any aspect we've been able to kind of match their need in their

115schedule to kind of make sure they can keep moving forward so we have five hybrid students at the middle school nine at the high school and two at FRC we have 23 fully virtual students again for multiple reasons that they're there we've had two in the elementary buildings five in middle school and 16 at the high school so we do have a wide array of students across our buildings mostly high school and middle school is where where we are seeing those numbers but we are starting to hear more of those Elementary needs coming up of those 39 students 11 of those students either applied for open enrollment to leave us or have gone to their counselors saying they wanted to open and roll out for a virtual program and we were able to keep them

116in District so those are 11 kids we would have lost this year that we have now kept homeschool students we had one student who actually was on the home school list that we brought back to be a bsad student in addition to those 39 we do have eight still students who are in Jedi who at the end of this year when that contract is up will need a place to go who are wanting to all stay virtually I've talked with all of those families and those families we want to meet with and talk through what are their next steps if they're staying virtual and having them switch over to wisco at the end of the school year so since these numbers went on um I have a list of 10 more students that potentially will

117be adding to wisco in the next two to two and a half weeks with four of those students being students who hope we're going to open a roll out that we have now kept in the district so that 11 is up to 15 students that we would have lost that we have Captain so if you have a student that does this all four years of high school and maybe you've mentioned this and I apologize if I didn't catch this but so if you have a student that's all four years in high school how does that factor into let's say the auditorian or sodatorian GPA scenario are they can they count for that can they not count for that uh technically no because they would be in the Wisconsin connect Charter School not in Burlington High

118School so the two would act as separate buildings and separate entities in that regard so no it wouldn't compete in that in that fashion actually like the follow-up question then would they get a degree or a diploma from wisco they would have a basd okay it'd be like if we had two different high schools in the district EHS and wisco essentially just like FRC it should be through the resolutions yeah exactly any questions with this so then um the governance board just so you know the requirement that we did put in our contract was that we would meet a minimum of three times per year right now though we do have it set that we're going to meet on the first Tuesday of every month from one o'clock until two o'clock and we have those

119reserved on our calendars if necessary feeling like kind of heavy heavy lift here at the beginning but then we'll kind of probably settle out as we go know that we will always ensure that the agendas are always um shared with you in an advance just like the board meeting notice of meetings and then also we felt would follow the Roberts Rules of Order as well foreign and then the term of the contract is suggested from DPI to be a five-year term the contract would start on July 1 of this summer and then it would continue through June 30th of 2028 know that inside in the contract underneath section 8.1 there are numerous different ways that if the district were to want to terminate the contract though there's language there on how the district can go

120about doing that um so just knowing that yes five years might sound like a long time but it is the suggested link that we should go with with the initial contract knowing that if we needed to we could get into that section 8.1 so what are the next steps that we need moving forward the governance board President Joe Bush and then also School Board president Peter Turk would need to both sign the contract um ideally tonight would be much appreciated um no pressure and then um also then we would submit the contract and bylaws to DPI by January 31st the desire for that contract to be signed tonight is because we would ideally like us to have our Wisconsin connect Charter School showing up on dpi's list of schools and in order to do that

121it has to be in to DPI by the 31st of January so the Open Enrollment window then for any open enrollments would start on February 6th so again that's uh when you go to the DPI website families are encouraged any student interested in open enrollment there is always this open enrollment window period from February 6 till April 28th there that it's an easier way to try to to go through the Open Enrollment process if you fall outside that window families can still apply for open enrollment they just have to use an alternative open enrollment application form so we want to make sure our school shows up in the list of choices there's 42 charter schools in the state of Wisconsin we want ours to show up on that list so that when that window opens

122they would all see that and then also know that any residents because we've been asked this question already if a residence a homeschool family wants to enroll in wisco they can enroll starting anytime so they could start now and complete the new student enrollment application information for next school year now and then if if it's agreed upon to sign the contract then we'll continue planning behind the scenes going through more of the um nitty-gritty on the logistics of of Staffing location schedules all those kind of things so again why uh the charter school it's adding a comprehensive opportunity for our students it will also our hope is increase enrollment in revenue for basd and then the need for the charter is in order for us to accept those virtual open enrollments so as Mandy shared

123there's 39 students in the program right now all of them are basd students none of them are open enrolled because we can't accept open enrollment yet foreign I think we need action tonight though the School Board needs to approve the contract so I'd entertain a motion to approve the wisco governance board contract so moved second okay motions were made and seconded are there any further comments or questions for Mandy or Jill yeah I've I've got some I think overall this is fantastic this is going to be a great part of for the district as a whole a little confused on a couple items though you listed the board rolls and there's five of them here is that the entire board yes okay with that in mind if we switch over to the bylaws that you

124have provided us with section 3.6 a says the charter school will be directed by an independent governance board that has been organized as Wisconsin non-stop Corporation the number of directors and directors terms shall be set forth Etc et cetera the board may include but is limited to parents Guardians students and community members not more than a minority of the board's members will be employees of the charter school or employees of the officers of the district three out of the five are employees of the district no just two of us are you're not employed by the district so I am and um Mandy but then Jamie Cook Joe Bush and Bonnie chobier are not employees at the school district I cross-up perfect the second part of that I wasn't including the CEOs only win with an

125r and I was thoroughly confused I'm like we pay our Personnel person um if the Charter School receives any federal charter school program funds then no member I can be a part of the board are we going to have any federal funds coming to this at any point so those funds are talking about grants you can apply for um we are not at the place that we would feel comfortable with applying for those grants yet so if we do decide at that point we can step off the board and have family or community members step on the board to take that and then we can apply but at this point because those are yearly applications we are not applying for that for next year so we can be on the board okay and then I

126would ask or at least make clear to everyone we are once we sign off on this this board really has no input on what that board does and we control funding and things that are listed but as far as anything else that board is on its own and we're relinquishing any input on that and those are non-elected positions they they're non-elected that is correct they are more so appointed within so if a board member were to want to leave then the board would appoint a new person in our board the governance board would but again I'm not necessarily questioning that I just want everyone to be clear that that's a pretty big deal but your meetings are are open to the public to attend though correct correct I just like we have to open records

127requests and things like that yep um adding to what you said so the governance board will have say over the day-to-day operations what those pieces are but things like what curriculum we're going with things like the financial side the Staffing side we'll all come back to bsad with the approval coming from here so it is a joint combination of the two but those day-to-day operations yes would go to the governance board but the big piece picture items would come back to bsad deciding those things okay thank you very much any other questions great questions how does this factor in with um [ __ ] laude for the charter school as far as um it doesn't yes right now it is seen completely separate from Burlington High School okay I guess unless you were a student who was

128taking classes at the high school and maybe took like one through visco is that right so we've had some conversations about that and we'll solidify it even further when it uh as we go here but the thought process more so is if the majority of your classes are within the Burlington High School then you still fall underneath Burlington High School if I'm just taking one or two classes through vln um then that's even a question of are you really a wisco student um or are you just taking a couple extra classes right when the top when you start to be have more of your class schedule is within wisco than it is in BSD then you're a wisco student so um that is more so what we're thinking okay anyway also have any questions or

129comments you're hearing none then I'll call for a vote all in favor of approving the contract say aye aye aye opposed an a all right it passes okay thank you Mandy and Jill thank you uh next up we have Joel Graham who's going to uh who said it looks like Joel right on the uh yeah uh open enrollment foreign this is my other hat uh I did share we did share with you in the board pack I'm just going to highlight a few things in in the presentation not spend too long on it uh currently uh we have 111 students in to our district that open enroll in uh we currently have 421 students out we are actually improving that number last year we were at a net negative of 341 this year we're at

130310 students that open enroll out so we are gaining students back which is a good Trend to have part of that work is Corey Bush uh Corey bush is our open enrollment secretary currently she helped put together this presentation for me but she is a great communicator with Mandy and with the addition of Mandy contacting parents who are looking to Virtual out of our district their communication is Paramount of bringing some of these kids back so I definitely appreciate their work when it comes to it serving two buildings tacit in open enrollment becomes a lot so I rely on those two quite a bit when it comes to the work of open enrollment students so we are gaining kids back like I said that's what I wanted to highlight I'm just going to go to

131our action steps first uh we feel like some of these things when Corey and Mandy and myself communicate with parents we are doing a better job of that we're communicating with all stakeholders and communicating with the schools that affect so Jason's staff if a high school kid tries to open enrollment out we get the paperwork we contact their staff right away and they can have a conversation with the family before they decide that that's what they want to do we believe that full Day 4k is helping bring those numbers back but because historically we lose roughly 42 kids on average at 4K partly because of our position within our conference and other districts around us it might be closer for Kansasville parents to go to Kansasville Union Grove places like that with their 4K students

132so we have limited that Corey had put the numbers in there I'm going to just jump back quick um this year we only had 20 EC and 4K kids out uh comparative in the last three years we had roughly about 40. so we are gaining some of those students back with a full day 4K uh part of our action plan too is that before and after school care what Jill and Manny just discussed and presented with wisco with the creation of wisco we will be sending a large mailing across our area not just basd but across our southeast Wisconsin area that highlights some of these things that we have in Burlington and highlighting wisco that plans on going out I believe in February or March to our area so we wanna just like other schools

133around us uh publicize and present our options that we have in Burlington we think that's helping our numbers go in the right direction and come bringing kids back and keeping kids in our district with that said we roughly have 40 to 50 kids right now that open and roll out due to Virtual sometimes it's hard to track in the state system because not every District labels it as a virtual program that students attend so we know of McFarland and Waukesha they do a good job labeling it the elkhorns the grantsburgs places like that we kind of have to estimate from what we've known from applications coming in that those students are virtual so our goal is to bring with wisco to bring a lot of those students 40 to 50 of those students at least

134get half of them back into our virtual program so with that said uh we have to set a number tonight of seats we propose that we don't set a general education number for seats of open enrollment students in we will accept them uh unless like Jill had talked about if there's accelerating circumstances of discipline issues expulsions things like that but right now we propose we do not set a seat limit for general education students but we do set a seat limit for our special ed students we are full at every level right now when it comes to caseload numbers except for elementary we currently have three available seats in our 5K through fifth level and that is really available seats depending on severity scales and rating scales and related services and Therapies so right now

135we recommend that in special ed for special ed open enrollment students we are full except for those three seats at 5K through fifth and then that we're completely open we're not setting a seat limit for our general education students 4K through 12. do you have any questions anyone I know it's not so much a question as I was surprised to hear we've got any availability with special ed I thought we were borderline under staffed on special ed it just happens to be in that particular uh area in the elementary world and it does really depend on related services so if a student comes to us with speech we're going to be full so if they have a related service of speech in language that's one I know we are full in at that level so

136it's really looking at that students individualized plan to see what they bring to the table and if we accept them or not thank you like I said entertain a motion then to set the Open Enrollment space no limit on the Open Enrollment spaces for general education and three seats for special education at the elementary school okay emotions made and seconded any other comments or questions okay hearing done I'll call for a vote all in favor say aye aye aye opposed nay all right motion passes uh the fourth or excuse me the fifth item on of action tonight is the uh drawing the order for the candidates on the 23 election and I think Marlo are you going to handle the uh the draw yes I've been voluntold laughs yes um so first name Roseanne Han

137okay I will Shake It Up second name Susan Kessler third name Noah strome fourth name Jim bausman foreign Peter Turk I'll even let you shake it up all right let's do it can I put my hand in there and feel it okay thank you first name Noah strome second name Peter Turk I made it third name Susan Kessler fourth name Jim Boseman fifth name Roseanne Han I knew it all right well thanks thank you Marlo okay six item for Action tonight is the uh we're gonna review discuss and vote on the proposed resolutions at the wasba convention that's upcoming which I mentioned is um next week and uh all the board members have had a chance to review all the resolutions and I think our procedure tonight was um I asked board members to raise

138any items or questions or issues they have with any of the resolutions for those who don't know uh wasba every convention and correct me if I'm wrong on this Roseanne or Susan um has a delicate convention Susan's our delegate this year and each School District gets to vote on res oh you are too yeah so we have two um the uh each School District gets to vote on the resolutions and if they pass then those are things that the wasba will use to Lobby or just guiding principles for the Wisconsin Association of school boards um so I guess I'd ask if any board member has any um of the resolutions that we want to discuss or if not I think the the Assumption was that we were all going to approve them unless someone has

139a comment or an objection to them I took time over the weekend to review them I don't have any comments but I'd more than welcome anyone who has any questions comments or objections to raise them no I'll just say it's nice that they're taking issues seriously this time and I'm in support of everything that's presented I reviewed it as well I don't have any conflicts okay Taylor is anything in particular you thought it was like outstanding or thinking mental health focused what book is mental health okay yeah um I think teacher licensure I think was good so that's what I mean when we're talking about serious issues in that political issues that have been brought up in the past like mascots and Susan and Roseanne correct me if I'm wrong I'm just along those lines

140I believe there's a process for going through these resolutions how they get nominated but any school board can essentially make a resolution but then it has to go through like a vetting process and yes approval process is that right yes and we've had two long meetings like a weekend meeting on them and the language has been changed a little bit and been voted out and then looked at again and looked at again so but by the time you get them they've been pretty well gone over and a lot of good suggestions have been made um so in what you said about the people using them for the legislators to find out what we need as school board members and what our kids need is what's important so it's an exciting some exciting things and any

141school board can offer a resolution so I don't think Burlington ever has no maybe it'll change sure we can right Marla you have any objections are you good Roseanne and Susan anything okay no no I mean great I I agree with Taylor that I I really like the resolutions that we've come up with and we certainly have worked them out to where they are now so good I'm glad that everybody agrees on with them yeah and uh I'd be remiss not to mention uh Roseanne's our president-elect of the Wisconsin Association of school board so I'm excited that you are going to start uh have you started yet or no is it start officially I get the gavel at the convention on Thursday yeah so well congratulations thank you I'm kind of nervous to give the

142speech but I'm excited um all right the the sixth or excuse me the seventh and eighth items are tied together this is our resolution authorizing um essentially the operating referendum authorizing us to exceed the revenue limit um and we've had a number of meetings already discussing this topic so I think and we've also had two workshops we've gone over these so um we've spent considerable time cons um debating and considering different um options on what we may want to present to the public in an operating referendum we were putting forward two options here would be a resolution for an eight million dollar per year over three years non-recurring operating referendum or a 7.2 million um does anyone have any I guess I'll ask for comments first or do we want to entertain a motion to

143approve one of these two options I move we approve the eight million dollar option second okay emotions been made and seconded uh to approve the resolution for option one this again this is eight million dollars per year over three years non-recurring do we have any comments discussion I guess comments I would add to more or less Statewide I support this one the state has not provided us with the proper funding for many years now and there's no indication they're going to correct that anytime soon so this authorization would allow us to Levy an additional 8 million but it does not mean we have to so if we run into a windfall or if the my fiscal situation improves we don't have to take that full amount out however if it gets worse or if the

144state continues to refuse to provide us the funding we need then we're going to need that flexibility and if we approve an amount lower we're going to be in a real pinch even at this number we're looking at having to Make Some Cuts to make things work so that's ultimately why I said I personally prefer the higher number it gives us flexibility that the lower one does not and I think you can look at any of our fiscal Endeavors in the last several years and see that we've been extremely responsible with our funds we're paying down debt early we're able to bring the building in under budget numerous upgrades across the district so I think we've been very good stewards of the taxpayers money this is any other comments questions for the board I guess

145I'll add one thing too I I think I know this has been said before but I think it Bears repeating to your point Barry I think we've been uh really good fiscal conservative stewards of the taxpayers dollars by going to an operating referendum is not an admission of defeat that we've not done that and 82 percent of districts in the state have gone to operating referendums so we're actually very late in the ball game as far as getting in and frankly the uh the system that's set up in Wisconsin for school district funding it requires districts to to do this it's pretty rare when a district actually can't it doesn't actually go to the public for that kind of question um so that's my you know additional thoughts Steve will be um and the administrative

146staff if we approve this resolution they'll be plenty of informational sessions to the public in the next few months that will better articulate some of these points and explain you know how we got here and the need for this operating referendum anybody else have comments okay hearing none I'd call for a vote on the again this is a resolution authorizing the district to exceed the revenue limit by eight million dollars per year for three years on a non-recurring basis um and I think we better do a a Voice vote on this one right now Peter Turk yes Barry schmaling yes Susan Kessler yes Taylor was Shaw no Kevin bird left Marlo Brown yes Roseanne Han yes all right thanks Toby part two of this and maybe this is uh not as dramatic but the uh

147we also have to approve a resolution providing for a referendum election on the question of approval of this resolution so that would be in the April spring election that we would have um this is our chance for the public it's pure democracy they get to vote Yes or no just like they did in in 2018 with the um referendum that we put put or put forward for the uh building Improvement plan um so I'd entertain a motion to approve the referendum election for the eight million dollars um per year for three years so moved second okay motions invade and seconded any further comments hearing none I'll call for a vote all other sorry voice book please I mean uh we'll call Toby please Peter Turk yes Barry schmaling yes Susan Kessler yes Taylor Wishaw oh

148Marlo Brown yes and Roseanne Han yes thank you okay thanks again um with that being said the only thing we have left on our agenda is to talk about the future meeting dates our regular scheduled board meeting would be Monday the 13th of February um no other meetings at this point are scheduled and then I'd entertain a motion to adjourn Al second second okay any comments hearing not all in favor say aye aye aye opposing a are returned everyone thanks for coming out tonight thank you Peter thank you foreign