001I said to unplug Yeah, >> it's four digits. How's it going? How much do you think mentor in the apprent We can discuss that. now. >> All right, I have 6 o' meeting for the school district to order. Roll call. All members are present except the absence of Joby name at this time. All right. Um, we're going to skip the board finance audit and we're going to go right into our student motion. Um, so are Patrick, are you doing this or is Richie doing this? >> I will start it and then I'm going to hand it off to Mr. Naris and Mr. Well, welcome everyone. Um, this is one of my favorite times of the year. Um, and especially this type of presentation. I think this is uh get away from the monogous of that
002goes with a board meeting. Sometimes we get to celebrate truly why we are here. Um often when you look around the room you see pictures of kids and so on, but um in front of you there's supposed to be five. There is um five individuals that we'll recognize tonight with recognition. And this is the culmination of truly what we're here for. And these individuals um are the elite of the elite for Glenwood City. And so um I do want to point out the presentation that uh you're going to watch was created by Mr. Mays who's done a tremendous job in his first year as our school counselor. Um what we'll do is we'll recognize these uh top individuals and then all of us will walk down including the board. Um you can leave your stuff
003here. Uh Christa will stay here, but uh we're going to walk down to the front and use that backdrop for some pictures for um social media and also to celebrate with our families based on these accomplishments. And then the newspaper um is here as you can see. And they will also take some pictures uh based on some groupings. We'll take our grouping pictures with parents uh with the board, with our high school principal, with our counselor um and then our students themselves. So, uh, parents, if you have, uh, photo ops, um, opportunities, u feel free to take out your cameras and and get ready. But, um, I'm going to pass it off to Mr. Maize and Mr. Nares. >> I'll start. First of all, parents, congratulations. Um, this is awesome. We I wish we would
004have done this something like this up in Cumberland in the 20 years I was here, but um, these uh, this is what it's all about. These kids in the hallways every day, in the classroom every day, they're amazing. Um, I've only been here in five, six months, but um, this is the best of the best right here. So, you bet, you should be very proud of the accomplishments that they've, uh, they've earned here. Um, I'm very proud of him. So, I couldn't be more ecstatic to be standing here in front of him today. So, um, I'm going to turn it over to Mr. Maze. He did a lot of the leg work behind all the um, you know, putting this thing together. Um I do know as a high school principal for 20 years that
005uh if you don't have a good guidance counselor, you're in trouble um as a principal. So um I feel fantastic about Mr. Naz and the job he's done. He's been great to work with and stuff and appreciate it um all that he's done. So I'm going to let him kind of run the show here. But guys, congratulations and parents again, congratulations on your job. you guys did very well >> and it's a very simple slideshow. I'll just kind of make a remark um in going through this. So, not my first rodeo in going through kind of the criteria and what's what's needed as they have some experience in voice. Um but even things I've been saying to the juniors and their parents um and seniors have probably heard it as well. um looking through even
006class ranked GPA um even the parents in the room um on the board estimate you had um we had 50% of the junior and senior class currently that were above a 3.5 or higher. Um so you know we talked about it in junior and senior meetings of like that movement you know like oh I have a 3.9 but I don't have you know I'm 10th in the class. Well, when you're talking small numbers of classes and that many kids um out of 50 kidsish per grade moving, it just doesn't move a lot. I think that's a testament to to our kids and obviously the ones that are sitting in front of us. So, >> I would just like to also add um one of the first questions, especially if you've been in education for a
007while, they say, "Okay, 3.5 and we have kids that do very well in the GPA. Does that mean our system is maybe easy?" Um but they back it up with the ACT. And if you look at where Glennwood City is, uh, with the ACT, uh, Mr. Popco and a whole host of individuals that, um, put aside the time and effort. So when you take that criteria and the ACT and match it up with GPA, that's a strong system. It's not um, outweighed. So to Mr. Ma's point, um, it's a system that is working. Uh we have top-notch staff here um and top-notch kids as you see here. So um again congratulations and it's all yours. >> That sounds good. Yeah. We're just going to recognize kind of each category. So this year we're going to
008have three named valictorians in the class. First one is Miss Kayola who's the daughter of Randy and Becky. Second is Landon over son of Tony and Jan and third who isn't here tonight and daughter of so will be our three honors validictorians for the class of 2026 again really high in percentages Mr. Wilson's point the criteria figuring out who was you know in what rank you know the 4.0 final is all in regards to scholarships and things like that. So congratulations to and you found here and then we go into our saludiatoran um again a really high ranking um piece. Um this is going to be Opal as our salut. So those took care of our top honors um getting medallions at the award ceremony things like that in their honores of graduation. And then
009we go into the academic excellence scholarship the AES which goes along with um the top right on ranked in their class. This again to M's point goes to those criteria matching pieces. We had to go to a few of the additional tiebreers because our top um are so strong in the class. Um also going to you know W school things like that some of those pieces come into play as well. Um and when we get down to the the fine details, the scholarship recipient for the academic excellence scholarship this year will be landed. Again, we'll get some recognition on that when we get to awards night in in May. So um and separately from that, we also look at technical excellence. So the higher ed board um in the state does both an academic and
010a technical excellence. Um technical excellence looks at things like how many CTE uh courses how what are your um performances in those what um extracurricular CTSOs are you in YA are you in a pathway have you done industry traded skills um things like that there's I think seven criteria we went through I'm going to thank Miss Johnson Sarah Johnson as well who was our YA coordinator that helped me kind of look at the criteria with all the students that um met that piece um and as we get that award um that went again close margins based on how many CTE programs we had but this um scholarship goes to Logan Clatt who was the son of Tom at the main awards ceremony. So congratulations for all of them and just know that this year and
011I'll show your This is my favorite part um where they get to actually speak because they have to get ready for their speeches. Um did you know um with this audience and again we're very proud of you and how you represent the city but we also want to hear from you. So here's what I would like to hear from each of you. Okay, landing is already nervous. Remember, you're gonna have a whole gymnasium full of people when you speak. Um, just two things. Number one, where do you plan to what are your future plans? Um, and include what you plan to study. And then um just kind of some a summary very brief of Glenwood City and your experiences here especially with staff if you want to recognize individuals because I think we all look
012back at our high school years and we have se certain individuals that have kind of led us along the way. Um so here's your opportunity to just uh briefly publicly thank those individuals if you would uh want to. Um but more so we are very curious to hear what your plans are. Mr. Miller, we'll start with you. >> All right. Um I plan to attend a little quick and just school all the staff members are incredential. Um, I want to go to class. Um, I'd like to go with Spanish and I kind of have the same. I think staff here in general are really great. Every subject, math, science and English. Um, I plan to go to North Technical College for occupational therapy assistant and I'm kind of pretty I plan on going to be
013a elevator technician. And again, the staff is just great at what they do. They help each kid individually. They know their needs. They can help them. >> Oh, that is Oh, there I see some weeds in there. It's pleasure. >> Does the board have any questions that they would like to hear from from the students? >> I think the only thing that came to mind for me was kind of what was your motivation for I mean excel academically I know the future part of it dedication to do it. So >> um I got a few factors. When my mom bet me when I was in middle school that if I got Victorian I don't know. Ever since like elementary, I kind of thought like I always know what validator was. So in elementary, I always
014try to get the best grade as well. So that's just kind of >> I mean I just kind of like the way looks just >> I enjoy challenge pushing >> I will tag on as well for the board anyone doesn't know Tesla who's not here. I believe her plans are to attend for the nursing program as well. >> We just had really good question number. I mean, in our time frame, we had one person, right? you know, now we're moving three, four, five, you know, schools at that level and they're having to fight by those little tiny parameters to get that number one spot. So, I I think we do a good job. We have great staff. We got people that care. So, and we have kids that are willing to, you know, we're getting
015smaller number of student wise, but we really have a lot of high majority of kids that do really wonderful things. So congratulations and representing city real well and I'm sure you will as as you continue your adulting for the rest of the I'd like to tack on what Lisa said and maybe it's a question is that these students have shown excellence in whatever their subject is and how many students were that close to moving into that category. You know what I mean? >> I mean, again, it was in this senior class specifically. I think my count was you're at 45 right now as a class. They started it with a few more. Um, and I think I counted over 30 again about that 3.5 or higher. So, I mean, they're all just the slightest bit
016of movement. And that all just packs on what it's just shows what is doing for our kids. I will say too that and I'm a little biased just because I have a son in this grade, but I've been able to see these kids grow since they were young as a class and um they have really been the leaders of us trying to change some of the culture around here in terms of behavior, in terms of accountability, in terms of holding each other uh to that high standard. And again, I think all of us as parents, when we're all said and done, we want our kids to be good human beings. These are prime examples of these kids. And when we ask them to assist us, it's it's not a beg, it's a how can I
017help? Um, case in point, um, on April 8th, the class, the high or senior class is going to go out and help the community, uh, while the rest of, uh, sophomores and freshman test, um, to help the elderly, to help the disabled within our community. And again, I know they're just willing to to do that in whatever capacity. And I think it's a prime example of the parents and um, the staff that we have here because it takes a community to raise these kids. So, kudos to you. Um, and we wish you all the best. So, any other questions? All right. This is probably the most favorite time. It's the family photos. You got to just smile. So, the quicker you uh adjust to it, the better. So, what we'll do is we're going to
018go down to the front. We're going to use that backdrop. Uh, we'll start off with Sean's here. Um, and I'll take some photos, too, but we'll take it individually. Uh we also want to recognize the work that Mr. Maize has done that Mr. Naris and Dr. Curtis have done and then take it with the board. So we'll go through the cycle. So parents if you have a cell phone and you want to get some pictures feel free. After that you guys are free to uh to leave. You certainly can come back and look at the rest of the meeting if you want. Um most of them don't do that. So um is there any questions? Opal, you ready for your speech? Also, I one more thing I want I think some credit needs to go
019to. Um I know Haley your parents neither of your parents graduate from Glow City. Okay. So that I'm not we're not going to hold that against them, but the rest of you your parents uh probably owe a little credit to their high school fire teacher. >> I was thinking their health teacher, not their fire teacher. They're looking at me. >> All right. We will go down to the front. twice. >> Yeah. Oh yeah. All seats to yourself. Are you able to Show me your name again. >> Mhm. >> I think they're on the >> I think so. Yep. They're in there. >> Oh, they are. What they're doing? >> Not what they're doing. I can pull it. Probably isn't any better. >> Okay. But I can at least find your names. >> Yep. Yep. It's
020in there in the public content. >> Okay. >> I don't know why my display is like this though. I made it. >> I've seen Forest play the guitar at the games. That's pretty cool. >> Oh yeah, he's bringing another day. This is This is serious. For a few years, they're police officers involved. We got >> you. What do we do? >> See how our chairs are nice pushed in. Yeah. Coffee. You might lost. I don't know. >> Well, we'll wait for Scott. Derek, you have your financial audit. Is there anything discrepancies or issues need to share? >> Yeah, nothing to note. Um, do you have some questions with Deb that she's working on responses? Just understanding from our processes if there's any concerns as she moves to retire so we can tighten up. Okay. >>
021No, she's working. Okay. I didn't give her a lot of time. I just >> I know he was not able to >> Okay. he was not able to meet with Deb. Um Deb's family is going through some medical issues with her husband Dave who previously had cancer. So um she had to leave today because he's going to be in the hospital. So uh with that said, one of his questions that he had was based on the cease contract is um in the consent agenda. It's I put the I always put the C contract or the contract catalog that's in there as far as the services. Scott, is there any specific um with your audit with your questions in terms of cease contract or the catalog? >> No, that's what uh we were going to dig
022into a little bit. >> Okay. >> I had just seen that there was a lot of charges in a lot of different areas and I didn't really understand it. Okay. So, Dev and I are going to talk about that. Okay. All right, we've already done our recognition class. So, next up is policy 5000. >> Any questions? I know uh Derek and I were discussing over the weekend uh two policies specifically. Uh the one was class sizes and his question was based on um the policy about if we truly have a class size recommendation. And those of you that were here when I was first hired may remember uh one of the first orders of business was to hire another elementary teacher based on our size. And with that, it was based on what we had
023set in my previous district in terms of preferred class sizes. Um, that again is just another example. Spring Valley has one um that was again very similar, but it also extends into the high school. Um as we all know um in terms of policy um due to our situation it was basically as policy comes up that we question or want to change um that's how we'll address it when you're completely redoing the entire policy platform. Um there's no real good way to go about it. So I don't want to speak for you Derek um but your question in terms of class >> Yeah. Yeah. I know that was helpful. Yeah. The other one goes on the truency. It says with the new policy that you have to have a truency review every two years and
024so as that's getting set up to set that date. But >> anyway, so I always appreciate your quick uh responses. Not necessarily the weekend, but I appreciate you always respons. >> I I do think there's again a valid point to that and again for discussion purposes, you know, do we want to set I think it's very important. Um you'll see later in um Miss Schaefer has put together uh her uh organization of her elementary classes, teachers and so forth. That's not public yet. Um but just walking through u the referendum that's coming up next fall. Um I haven't, you know, from a staffing standpoint, we're going to stay status quo. Um, but with that said, looking at those numbers and seeing where because we do have some bubbles that are there and especially this will
025be next year will be my going on my fourth year and we have a larger uh fifth grade class. Is it fifth grade? Yes, >> that'll be going into fifth grade next year. >> And that's the one we added a teacher. And again, I will say it um because I think it's noteworthy. Um the difference between Tim Johnson's um salary and my salary was we were able to take that amount and hire another teacher. And again, I think I would always advocate uh for another uh elementary teacher as a constant baseline with these numbers. So when you look at uh where we're at, I think that is definitely one thing that we need to keep in mind. And so um I guess I'll open it up to class side guidelines. We don't officially have it
026in policy. Um per say we just use those guidelines um when it came up. But now would be a great time to at least discuss um what do we think do we want to have that guideline to go from? Now it's never And you know, it's not black and white. There's always some gray areas. The reason that I like Spring Valleys, especially my age, especially when you have a smaller school, uh my experiences in Prairie Farm, um you know, we had some groupings of kids and based on the smaller class sizes and we rolled them over. Um so if you look at their policy, um I think it's rather, you know, well-versed. it's um kind of extends to the high school area. Um and again, it's not black and white, but it's a framework to
027work from. So during these policy sessions, I would say here's your opportunity to say yes, we want to move forward with writing this. You're not approving it. You're just giving permission to write it so that it actually becomes policy. So again, for when I'm gone, when you're gone, there's something written to follow. That's what >> I think that's a um and and a frame such as this, it's recommended guidelines, you know. I >> I think we, you know, and I'll let Miss Schaeer talk too. Um, but when you look at where the hierarchy and the research is based on where class sizes matter, um, another point that I'll bring up, um, we don't have all the resources that some bigger schools have. And so when you looked at second grade at the time, they were
028above that threshold. But in the same regard why we kept it in, we don't have a social worker in our district. We have one school counselor. We have uh limited you know our interventionist is middle school, high school and she dips down at times. Our reading specialist etc. So when you think about just the teacher and how smaller class sizes you're talking about the teacher being able to have their hands in those areas. It's not always where they just get to teach. Unfortunately, when you're in a smaller district, you wear many hats. So, it's just something to keep in mind that again, even in Richmond, you had behavior specialists, you had um school counselors um probably more so than um to the ratio that DPI recommends. So again, something to keep in mind when we
029talk about the importance of that because some people will say uh it doesn't matter. When I was in school, I had 30 kids. When I taught elementary here, um I I had in sixth grade, fifth grade, I had 30 kids in my class. Now, is that doable? Absolutely. But again, times have changed and there's more needs that are there, especially from a behavior standpoint. So I think those are things that we have to constantly think about. >> Does it make sense to you? It makes sense to me, but it that this is a good like the younger kids have a have a smaller ratio. >> Yeah, absolutely. Um I think, you know, we've talked about this extensively. This is kind of what we've kind of been trying to follow. Um especially, you know, keeping it
030under 25 kids in grades five and under. Um my K2, keeping those class sizes. We do have some bubble groups coming up like my kindergarten class is getting pretty big. Um there's 44 kids in there right now. So we're at 22 and 22. Actually I think 22 and 23 there's 45. Um so again it kind of hits that and I notice, you know, even just as I'm going in classrooms with my observations and seeing what's going on, you can definitely tell when there's 20 kids in there compared to even when there's 17 or 23, 24. So I think this is a good mark as far as the 20 kids um for K3. Um and then as they get older, a little bit more dependent independent, it's easier to get away with 25. I also think
031the thing we have to keep in mind is the instruction that we're trying to kind of recap um from the last few years, lack of some of the instruction and different resources and that kind of stuff. So we've got some high needs classes. And so then my fourth grade class, if we were to all of a sudden split that back to two groups, that would be very difficult next year to take that group that was the second grade on Mr. similar here to three groups to put them back down to two just because the needs are so high in that academic. So >> behavior needs too >> which lead into that factor. But >> yeah, in terms of uh Miss Schaefer's been very creative with uh like Miss Hoffman and putting her in places where
032she meets almost like an interventionist. She put her in with ELA and math just to have that other support. she's done a a great job. But again, I think there's just there's a lot of discussion around this topic sometimes and there's just not a full understanding of what goes into it. So I I remember this is a few years ago, maybe early on when I started on the board, um research showed that while class sizes are important, it's not the most important thing. It's really easy to focus on for parents, but it's not I mean it's not the end all be all. Is is that the same as the research changed? >> If you go with like all the Hattie research, John Hattie research then yes um it is when they did all the studies
033um that there are other things that are higher factors. However, it always is going to play a role. Um, and again too, looking at I hate to always say it, but there are some unique academic and behavioral needs down at the elementary that we've got to try to correct and fix. And obviously with 25 kids in the classroom at the kindergarten level, it's going to be a lot more difficult as compared to 17, 18, 19 kids, you know, just kind of the reality of it, >> especially as we get into more curriculum discussions. Um, had you'll hear uh John Hadtie's name come up quite a bit. The reason that his research is so profound is he takes everybody else's research and puts it together. It's not his opinion. It's not just his research. It's everybody's
034and he puts it. So to your point, Chuck, um yeah, it's about 50. You know, it's in the middle in terms of what the effect size is. But again, I will say um versus larger schools behavior inter interventionists um you just you just do you and I had that in enrichment and so we don't have those accessibility points. Um so that's where if we can draw that down and have students >> because the teacher's doing it and >> Exactly. So >> and then it's unique here. Okay. >> I I was going to say, yeah, I I think what to your point, something that outlives you or us um is is something to have down is is a good idea. >> I think it always comes back to again, you know, you're going to have parents
035that latch on to certain things that they've heard or seen or what they experienced when they were younger. And I think this is always one that comes up. And so, um I think it's just it's best practice. Um, and it's research based. So, um, I think with what I'm hearing, we'll go back and draw this up as our policy, make some tweaks if we need to, but bring it to you formally for >> I'll bring it back officially. >> Uh, the other one, the truncy part, we're going to discuss. I know that we've had some um discussions. Um St. Croy County has been majority of my career has been in St. Croy County as a superintendent and uh there's other counties that are better when it comes to trees. Um I will give um I
036guess accolades to Judge Needm. Judge Nem um is one that has actually brought ad school administrators to the courthouse and talked about truency and tried to I would say just make sure that we're all on the same page. So, uh, but D County, I think does a better job on truency, but us to fulfill that, you know, to Derek's point, uh, we have it on our admin agenda to set some of those things. Um, because again, when you completely review your policies, uh, it's just things that you lose sight of that's not on your radar. So, we'll get that taken care of. >> Part Okay. Um, that's all I have. Any other questions on 5,000? >> Anything else with anybody? >> All right. >> Uh, this was scheduled for Friday. I've had to move it
037a couple times uh just due to my illness and then um he actually canceled on me today for this Friday. So, uh just gives you an idea that what an update looks like. And so this act 57 uh talks about a special update with Neil and how it's going to be addressed and what that entails. So um you will be seeing this come to you uh for um approval. Um but again I just wanted to give you an idea of what we have. You know the work is never done. It's constant legislation changes. It's federal changes. It's state changes. It's local changes and then they're dictated based on this special. Any questions on that? >> Without meeting with them, do you know which option we fit within? Are we do we have the because the
038first one references update 35-1 process? >> Yeah. So we have to go through all both of them. >> Okay. So probably option two. So we we actually so we meet it varies based on his schedule but these are retired superintendents that work for NEOA and then they come on site or I re meet with them remotely and then we go through them line by line and it's based on my opinion at that time and then that's what I bring to you guys to say yay or nay if you want to make any changes. So we'll go through that. I haven't read through it, Derek. um this update um I've been focusing on some other things so I don't >> um the final one is again as because of our situation as these things have come
039up um one of the things that was pretty glaring based on some successes that we had this winter um with with some sports teams um and Christa did a lot of leg work behind and she got comparables um this again is is kind of outdated um with with the cost of living and where it's at. I mean, you can't go you used to be able to go to McDonald's and have a nice meal with five bucks, >> three and a quarter. >> Uh you can't get anything uh remotely beneficial even at crappy McDonald's uh for five bucks. So, looking at some of these things, um, I just wanted to put it out there to say, is this something that we're interested in changing? Uh, these are for teams that go, uh, and make it further
040on and they get stipens, whether it's state wrestling, state cross country, state track, um, you know, any state team that moves on. And you can kind of see again where everything was at. >> Yeah, I agree. I think very helpful. There's a lot of booster support too for a lot of those teams. You know, get creative where we can provide more but less at the same time. >> Yeah, the fundraising topic around here is is interesting just because our come, you know, different businesses get hit up all the time. I think Dr. Kaiser can speak to that and um you know it's tough with his arm and so forth. So I think anything that we can do to alleviate some of those things um doesn't happen often. You know you'll have it with wrestling with
041a couple. We had a team go on this year um individual track cross country etc. you know, obviously gets a bigger expense when the entire team goes, which we have a fund that is specifically for that. But again, uh these are good things to revisit, especially when they come up. And when it did come up this year, it was like, oh, okay, can you can you really get anything of quality for seven bucks? I mean, even at McDonald's, you're looking at 10. So I just looking for direction in terms of if you would like to make changes to those amounts and then what I'll do is I'll correct policy and then bring it back. Wait, how much? $30, right? 15 20 They say 35. >> So if you're in 35, >> the hard part is
042always writing the review frequency. Unless you're over a year, they're probably always going to be out of date. We used to do something where we take an average of a benchmark of certain schools. I mean, you don't want to benchmark these either, but >> I can't tell you the last time that this was addressed, but based on the numbers, you can tell it's >> I've never seen this before. >> I think 35 is a is a good starting number and then leave it at the discretion of the coach or the responsible individuals for how I mean it depends on how it's how it's dispensed. Are you giving them a key card to pay for everyone? Are you handing cash out to the students? You know, how is how is that done? >> It's usually because
043the other point to that is is, you know, you you try to stay overnight in a hotel that offers breakfast. So then that would be added to the others. And again, whatever, and it's just like college, you know, whatever you don't spend, you get to pocket. And is it a lot? No. because these kids eat all the time. They're bottomless pits and you want them to at le I mean they're they're competing on a high level. Um so you want them to have at least some substance in terms of a Subway sandwich or not always crappy food. So M Mr. Nar What was the cost of a bottle of water at the wrestling? >> I'm sure it was eight bucks for a bottle of water. I mean, it just gives some indication, >> right? >>
044What the >> Yeah, it wouldn't take long to spend 35 bucks at a just just at the concession stand. >> So, I hear Scott saying just instead of, you know, doing it out in terms of breakfast, lunch, and supper. And the only reason that that sometimes is helpful is, you know, again, based on the timing. So if they leave from a pepfest and breakfast is is over, then you can break it up and use those amounts. Um, so that's where that is helpful. You can go back based on the $30 a day, but then the question is going to come up, well, you left at, you know, 10:00. >> Um, it just it's always a question. And so it's easier to break down, say, no, we're going to give you whatever >> $28. >> I
045agree with the breakdowns. um whether it's daily or by meal, but as long as whoever the responsible adults are have the ability to go higher if they need to depending on the demographic of where you know where they at and what food is available, what good food is available. >> So that that's just so long as they have that discretion to know that sometimes it's okay to spend a little more if they have to to make sure the students are fed well so they can perform at whatever function they're at. And my experience is I mean these kids have money too and so they just if they want to go above and beyond of what they can for some kids yeah this is they require they rely on this you know others booster clubs yep
046they help pick up some things I know for our basketball team you know either myself or my assistant coaches pick up the entire t you know so there's just varying circumstances that come up but with that said it's at least Good to have a a framework. >> 10 15 15. Yep. Sounds good. >> I'll do 35. >> 10 10 15 10 15. >> That's it or what? >> I said something different. All right. I don't know who they were answering. Um and the final one here is uh based on the outcome of the preliminary election. Um Mr. Davis uh this is his last meeting that he will be with us. Uh we just want to say a special thanks to him for all he has done for the board of education, for the district, for
047our kids. Uh he's definitely always one that is willing to help out. Um, and give you all the shirt off his back if he if he needed. So, just wanted to say thank you to Mr. Davis for everything you've done for this. >> So, uh, anything Mr. Davis, would you like any words of wisdom? >> No. When I got bled out last time, I said that would be back and they didn't come back. Um, I don't know if the opportunity will ever happen again, but I'm not against it. And uh sitting on the board really makes you realize a lot of different things with education. This board policies and people that in our community don't understand the correct answers is always a plus. So I think that anybody that's on the committee that on the
048board I should say. I think they can pretty pretty easily get the right answer from us. It's always been a great part of being on the board having the right information. I think if you look at the dictionary under Steve Davis, you'd see the word resil. So, thank you for being >> All right, that's all I have. >> All right. Next up, I'll entertain a motion to approve the agenda. >> Motion is made by Derek. Do I have a second? >> Second. Second by Scott. Any further discussion or questions? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. >> Post say no. Motion carried. Next up is our open forum. Do any members have anything they want to say? >> Next up is the consent agenda. The items are listed below. Is there anything on the
049consent agenda that anybody would like need further clarification or discussion on? Quick. I did have one question for last meeting. Did we make a final decision on the um driver education portion or was that going to be open for review at another time? >> It was it passed. The motion the motion passed. It was going to um go for write up. >> Yeah. So it will become it will come back to the board for final approval. Um, I took the notes from Christa, um, in terms of how to write it up and then you, it will be brought back to you for final. The only question I had about that, and I know we've talked about it, and I know what's going on, but as long as it's coming back, uh, we've talked about incentive
050uh, for Glenwood City staff members, and I was thinking that that wouldn't be a bad incentive to offer to anyone who was a district employee, uh, to their children, whether they go to school or not, because of the fact their parent is an employee, they would be given that opportunity. here in BL with >> I think well I think right now we're on our consent agenda so we have to stick to what's on the consent agenda. However um if that is something that you have thought concern with talk to Patrick about it we can then then when it comes back then we then that's when we have that dialogue part of that. >> I will I will leave you with this because I was not here for that discussion but um recently another board was
051discussing this very topic. We are the only school in the dun that offers driver's education. Everybody else is consulted. So um and again that's because we have mystery score. We didn't have Mr. Score that would be a topic. We would go on third party. So but I will write that up and I will bring that back. And to um Dr. Kaiser's point, yeah, we'll have to I did pull out uh a couple things that I want to answer. uh first uh based on my absence last time. So, I'll go through that if it's okay and then any questions that remain. First of all, you'll see a variety of hires and um I just want to say thank you to my admin staff, uh the directors, supervisors, you uh those processes don't uh just happen. They
052take a lot of time. There's a lot of effort behind it. There's a lot of pre-work behind it. Um, and I'm thankful that I don't have to sit on every single one and I feel comfortable not sitting on each one. Um, because of the people that we have sitting to my right. Um, so, um, I just want to say thank you to them for doing that. I taking a a comment from Mr. Narvis. Um, you know, we're continuing to build upon what we have here of good people and bringing good people in. And I think that we have done that. Um, so again, I just want to say thank you with those. I also want to point out letter B. This was a question that was tabled. Um, I think the question was why are
053we even going down this road? Um I don't think the board realizes or knows um that we actually um ask the city to salt our campus and then they charge us for that. We don't even have the ability to do um this salting process. Last Friday uh or Friday before the uh spring break um we actually had a variety of people gone. So, my job was to uh be the snow removal guy. And so, I used the new John Deere, which was great, by the way. Thank you. Um, it's interesting because three weeks ago, I was sitting at the hospital waiting for my wife and her radiation treatment, and I saw the St. John Deere drive by, and it had a salt spreader on, and um, I have a uh, David Caress from the city.
054when we need it salted, we have to call him and then we have he does it after he does his regular routes. It doesn't make sense. Uh we need the ability to spread uh salt on when we need it. Last Friday, I wish I would have had or that Friday, I wish I would have had it. I was able to use the sweeper to get that inch of um it was slush off because it refose right after that. And again, when you look at the ability to do this, uh, we can't rely on the city to do that on their timeline. So, for us, and I know it's 5,000, but it fits perfectly. Um, when I saw the machine go by, I was like, "God, that would be very slick to have, fits on our
055sidewalks, then, you know, because I was out there using these little toy scoops like you're in a >> sandbox. a sandbox. Yes. And you sprinkle it and you get clogs and so on. So, uh, my recommendation is that we move forward with it because it's one of those where and I know the board tabled it because you didn't know and rightfully so, but to rely on the city is just not economical because we pay for it anyway. Um, in addition to that, it's not timely. >> No, it's for how many years and then fine with it, right? Yeah. >> What does the city charge us? >> Uh, I don't know off the top of my head, you know, what that is. It's not I mean, they don't like gouge us, >> but I think the
056the harder part and Dave's awesome about it. He'll get here um and spread it, but again, we have some some hills, you know, or approaches that are a little bit and based on the timing, it just he's got a priority to do the city first. So, it just it didn't make a lot of sense. to spend five grand to put it on our machine just it it really would help. >> So then are we going to have to have a salt shel shelter? >> Well, we have Yes, we already have the bin. Um and we have a bunch of bags and we just put the bags in. So, at the entrances, uh, we have those blue bins and that's where we have people do this and it just >> and those blue bins like get
057moisture in them even though we try not to and then the salt gets rock hard and then you can't >> there's just there's it works. where I used to work, we had a utility truck with a spreader on the back >> and then we would just, you know, we had a scoop on that salt through the >> truck, but we had to have a shelter because of its wet, it's useless. >> We have the banks and then also >> makes you because then you have salt water runoff. >> Sure. And it's environmentally unsafe, I guess. >> Yeah. And you can spread it on the ground and it can run everywhere, but you can't store it. >> We priced out the the spreader on the back of a a truck and you're talking at a minimum
05812 15,000. So five grand to put it on our new machine and actually access the um sidewalks. It's just to me it's a no-brainer. So >> and and this is that you just fill the base. Yeah. Yep. Yep. It's easy accessible. Um and we we order the bags through a company and then we get them out via pallet. So, it works out pretty well. Um the other one I wanted to pull out was uh letter Z. Um the board is aware um Joe Draxler uh approached and we I think if you've seen our our championship signs you would agree especially the one by the fair grounds. It doesn't you can't even see what it says. Um, but for the longest time, um, and I got a quote and you see some of the quotes that
059were there and actually came up at an admin meeting and our Cumberland friends sitting to my right here said, "Hey, we know a person." And so I reached out to Woodland Signs and he could do it for a quarter of the cost that the Oaklair company had and he does a different way. So I emailed Joe and said, you know, what are your thoughts? because he was leading the drive. We currently have uh 5,500 which would cover the cost of both signs. And then in addition to that, I touch base with Harvest Hills and they will drill the holes for free. Um when the frost is ready or out and so my recommendation is to move forward with this, especially with the okay from Joe. The question is um our marketing strategist sitting over in
060the corner. She does a great job of being on chat GPT and designing different things. Um we the original Well, there's the old This is the one. Um pretty embarrassing. Um and this is before >> Yeah. Um and this was actually when I first started and so the weeds and whatever. Then we move to this one, which again is even worse now. Um, and one of the things that Joe wrote back in his email was, uh, he is on the park board or the, uh, the board at the fairgrounds. >> He's not on the board. >> Oh, he's not? >> No, but he'll talk. >> He'll talk to the board. >> He'll twist some >> and, uh, he was going to talk about placement to do it better. And so I included where he would
061suggest uh based on this map where to do it. And so again, with the approval tonight, um are we okay with the new spot that Joe is recommending? And then the final one would be um would be the original design that I priced out was this which again um I think there was a lot of people that liked it. Um but then when Christa put together some of these other images and I think there's there's definitely some other routes we could go. I just want to I think these are really stick out. >> Yeah, those are really >> um so is there any because basically he can do anything. So, out of those, um, do you guys have a suggestions in terms of >> I think the only thing I didn't like was like that
062first one on the upper left is your your thing and then you've got a a date and then you're you got the whatever it's for. If you keep everything whatever it is and then the dates afterwards like the keep it consistent that way it's easier to read. >> I think shape kind of simplicity of that top left one because I'm sure if you get some of those fancy things it's going to change the budget, right? only got so much fundraising. >> But I agree with this all on one side. >> Yeah, I would say we get rid of the record and just be consistent so it looks the same. But is there is there any thoughts behind >> I was I was shocked. out of these three. >> Sorry. >> Does the top ridge match
063more the shape of the school? >> What now? >> It looks like the elementary entrance. >> Go for that one. >> I I like that style better. If there's not a significant cost difference, I I think that looks Which one? >> This one. that as opposed to the one is on the other. >> Okay. >> Oh, so there's a difference. See the point? There's a pointy sign. The upper right's got the point to it. And the other I like the rounded >> kind of a thing more. >> It's like picking out a kitchen. >> Yeah. >> Nobody's wrong. >> And these are just >> We're all saying that we don't like this one, right? >> So, it's either between these two. >> Anybody like this one? No. >> Okay. So, it comes down to this
064one. >> That's >> forget the bottom. So, we either going to go rounded or >> point. >> And with the top right, the bottom would be consistent. >> Yeah. Those are >> We're not going to have records. We'll just have >> I like top left. I don't I don't care for the game look. Yeah, the top left. >> Hey, the city fits in there nicer. >> Something like that. >> Yeah, sure. >> Okay. Top left going once, going twice. You don't have to vote on it. So, all right. I will get that then move forward with it. You approving it and consent moves forward with it. So, all right. The other one that I want to uh bring forward and have just a a small discussion is based on budget. we're going to have more
065of these discussions. Um, what do I mean by that? If you look at our letter number AA, AA is the approval of math curriculum. And I'm going to let um, Miss Schaefer talk about it. But before we do, uh, the first year that I took over this position, we underspent by a million dollars, and that was to close some gaps, take away some excesses that just didn't need to be there from a budget standpoint, etc. One of the things too is we froze the curriculum purchases and the reason being is because there was no process. There was no process. There was no procedure and I think again with the hire of Miss Schaefer um as a former curriculum director um that was her wheelhouse. That's what she did. So I was very comfortable this year
066um moving forward with this recommendation. Um, these are needed badly and so um I'll let Miss Schaefer kind of just talk briefly about it. >> Okay, briefly. Got it. I need that reminder. >> Um, so couple documents attached here. If you kind of go just to the overall board recommendation that kind of just hits the surface highlights of the recommendations of why I'm proposing we move forward with a purchase from the map center bridges. Those are all the rationale parts. I just kind of took the highlights, but overall it obviously has the alignment to the walk Wisconsin academic state standards. Um, it has evidence-based instructional practices. Um, so lots of different variety of it's not just the teacher upfront facilitating and teaching at the kids lecturing. It's a lot of the hands-on, a lot of
067the discovery, a lot of the discourse conversations between the kids. Um, and it's really good um, ease of supports for students and teachers. Year one is going to be definitely implementation. There's a lot to learn for teachers as far as instruction and layout and setup of the curriculum. Um all of my staff is very well aware that year one is going to be tough, but they're up for that. Then year two and year three gets a lot easier. Um as far as the implementation part goes, when we purchased um if you remember back in the fall, I just had at least purchase workbooks for the students. The students had no workbooks. I told you that we would kind of be looking at this. we're looking at a review. Um, so the workbooks that we actually
068have and the digital content that we have with Eureka Squared, if we stuck with that, that's still going to be about a yearly investment of about 12 to $15,000 to get that in the hands of kids and teachers every year. So, if we just stay as is, we're still looking at 12 to$15,000 um to continue yearly with that. If you look at um bridges, which is again my recommendation to do that implementation and that adoption, um you can see what year one would cost us. Um we're looking at about $50,000 and then year two um and so on after that is about $56,000. what's going to cost us a lot on year one of bridges because we're going to need about $20,000 of manipulatives, teacher storage, and that kind of stuff because this is a
069very hands-on curriculum, which is something that we do not have. Um, so the classroom teachers, you know, even if they were manipulatives to add and subtract um models and different things like that, the teachers just don't have it. Um, or the students are having to draw little squares and different things like that. So, that's kind of the main difference um that that 20,000 boost for us is going to be just a one-time part of it. Um, also too with that, we're obviously going to be proposing professional development for staff. We would have that built into their flex days in the summer to be able to support them with that. So, with that being said, my recommendation is is to proceed forward and to look at that bridges recommendation. So if you look at uh you
070know the number of vendors that she looked at you know it's just again a very good process and procedures very similar to what we used to do in my other district um when we had a curriculum director it wasn't just you know there was again how did you get to that decision >> and that's in the adoption process one >> was this the one that you guys did like a field trip to essential work >> yep we did two we did one for envision map sunset and I wasn't able to take the whole staff Um but then yes, Bridges is the one that we stop central, right? But yeah, this shows the process that we use here to go through of how we became practice. It's not that we just do and we didn't have
071this before, Miss Shaker. So, um the follow up to that is is that she sets the groundwork and then the middle school, high school builds off of that, especially the middle school which Dr. Curtis is working off of her and um assume Jamie had met multiple times talking about okay let's talk about middle school uh because we have staff that are wanting needing uh curriculum materials there and again they should scaffold from what the elementary does that's what makes a successful program so again um there's a lot of information here u but it's one of those where it's good this is what you're supposed to on a curriculum recommendation. >> Phenomenal math teach. He wasn't around tomorrow. He created his own curriculum. So a new teacher coming in would be like what do I what
072do I do? What do I have? So that's how important it is. When people leave there's, you know, I'm talking to Mr. Coll, same thing. science. You're going to be hearing about a science curriculum with a new uh teacher here that we're going to be looking for next year. Same thing. So, it's it's it's very important >> and I assume that would help with subsequent teachers. >> Yeah, because that's when I felt it last fall when I went into something in the classroom. I'm like, but where's your student workbooks? Like, what do you mean use these? I was like, oh my gosh. So yeah, it it will help with that. >> Well, and part of it too is, you know, say there's two sections in each grade. You know, those two sections should have the
073same experience. >> Correct. >> It should not be, you know, that Exactly. Well, and I know this happened here because I had those conversations with my kids teachers and it was one of those where, you know, this this teacher is better at math. Okay. But from an instructional standpoint, what are we doing that's consistent? So again, um it's I know it's in consent based on a number of things tonight, but it is one of the most important decisions, you know, for us as we move forward. Plus, it's an um it's an example of what you're going to be seeing in the future here. >> Is that adoption process that's in here, is that kind of standard or part of policy or how what dictates that? because that's a really wellthoughtout cadence of policy or of
074curriculum. >> Yeah, that was something that I implemented in Cumberland and then um used most of it bits and pieces here. Um and so I just it I saw it work well there when I was the director of learning. Um so I kind of just carried it over with that with that part. and our curriculum director um did the same thing, you know, and um it's very similar to what we followed. So, it's best >> I just want to make sure it's not something that's going to go >> I went way out the box and just Yeah, >> I I will say that not everybody not every school has this. >> Yeah, they don't need to formalize that, you know, in some way whether it's through policy or >> what it may be guidelines or
075something. very well doumented process >> for me. It's it's a matter of I just wanted Jamie to go through the process so that I could see it unfold and then and again I would agree um it's well thought out but it's now this is the first formal process. So to put this in policy would make perfect sense. And one of the other things too, I'm sure, as far as the research and selective programs that we did, when I looked at I went as far as looking up the scores of schools who use bridges in year one, bridges in year two, and bridges in year three of the accountability and it's just skyrocketing. Um, so that right there, just even having that data and research to show like, okay, these schools that are using it, it's
076working. This is what we need for our kids. And then again, it is only a curriculum. It was the only curriculum that we looked at that went through only fifth grade. It does not go any higher than that. Um, however, no matter what curriculum the sixth through 8th grade goes with, this curriculum, given the foundations that they need, then they'll be able to implement that next step of whatever they so choose with that. Um the other thing too I did want to touch base is I do have special education using Bridges um with some of the kiddos and then also we're using Bridges intervention and the data from those kids as far as the progress makes me super excited to get it in the hands of all the kids instead of just they're the ones
077that get to use it right now. Um it'll be all kids so hopefully. Any other questions? >> Anything else that anybody has concerns on? >> I think the only question I have is on DB. There seems to be a lot of um coursework that's maybe not core curriculum. And I'm just curious if that's something that we want to improve as a board. um some of them were like equity studies or other kind of course work that may not be core curriculum or maybe career advancement style. >> So there's two other ones that I wanted to just briefly touch on. So CC was to Scott's question. Um if you look at the Do you want to go through this Scott? >> No, that's all right. I think uh I'll talk to Deb whoever >> and you
078can talk to me and I can go through um you know again this is the CISA contract. The biggest thing I'll say about CISA is CISA is there. If you're a larger district you probably have individuals that lead these areas. So it's not as important. CISA is more for smaller districts that don't have access to these individuals within their district. So um they basically hire and then they charge us for giving a piece of the pie. Um so we go through it as an admin team and say what do you need? What do you not need? Are we sure about this? Um and so we cut it down by first year. Um just to make sure we understood what are we getting? What services do we really need? Um, so both Aaron and Jamie um,
079and Sue have gone through this to say this is what helps Glenn City be successful. >> And that was my main question is we were spending money quarterly on services that they had. And I was just wondering if we were actually using those services to that dollar amount that we've spent for that quarter. >> And actually, we get a document. I didn't attach it, but we get a document that shows um for example, you know, I go to my pack meeting at once a month. It shows my attendance um or if we buy something like we bought a special ed day and Aaron used it for um >> Yes. Uh which is uh hold and and educating our staff on um securing a child if they're unruly, etc. Uh we also bought a day for
080elementary and Jamie used it for >> you training for the phonics program that he did last summer. >> So those are things again that um give us access to things that we normally again um maybe don't have an individual in the district that could provide those trainings. Um and the final one here is uh this is something that I started uh I was either surprised that the um board was not seeing these applications because they should have been coming to you. Um Jacob has done a great job and he started last year already. Um in terms of the start college now on the board calendar you'll see that it's March and then it's October. So March is for next year's fall students and then the October is for uh the the spring. With that said,
081um there does there's kind of a and Jacob's here to talk about any questions that you have. I think it's a great example of what our kids are seeking. I guess to your point, um I'm going to let we'll come back to your question, Jordan. I'm going to let Jacob kind of go through and what he's seen and then I'll comment um based on some of these applications. >> Yeah. So, obviously, you know, a lot of the programs at Start College now is for the tech schools and the early college credit program is for the four years. Um I think Mr. also said it multiple times. We think something as simple as um like an intro to psychology type class which um just with some of the licensings of our staff in the high school,
082we can't offer a class specifically called that um that would teach them kind of an interest nor would they earn potential college credit with that at a university or technical college as they go through. Um, so I vet these classes pretty closely with the students. Um, going back and forth with parents, um, things like that to make sure that they're not too much of an equivalent that they could earn something here, but also making sure that when they when they would complete that, it's not, oh, I could have done that here and gotten the same college credit if it was an AP, a teacher that has um, a doc, you know, doctorate things that has a connection with the university, etc. Um, and we revamp from there. Um so just kind of that piece um
083with that I guess um and also based on what you guys do or do not approve um is what they're allowed to take. So, as I told the kids and even some parents as we're doing applications, if if they put one class in as a again introduction to psychology and that's all that they get approved for whatever that semester is and then they're not able to that class doesn't run at that university. Um the class isn't offered online if they put Milwaukee on there instead of stealth and they can't travel there during that daytime that our schedule complex. They can't take anything else. So they're kind of like the list gets extensive in that regard because we want them to be able to have more options in case something doesn't go and to a point
084of some of the schools that they're applying don't have their fall cataloges ready yet and but yet the kids have to apply and they have to be approved kind of in this in this time frame. Um and then we work those kinks out as that semester gets a little closer. So, um, I don't know if that answered your question, Jordan, specifically, but that's kind of the some of the rationale behind what they're asking for as and you know, what we're able to approve and why um, you know, maybe they're as much or as extensive as as they are, even if they don't meet a certain pathway, things like that. The kids are just trying to be, you know, get that above and beyond what they can be offered here, >> right? I mean, you're kind
085of throw spaghetti at the ball, kind of see what's >> correct. Yeah. Yeah, >> I get that. I think my concern is just maybe what what we fund versus what maybe the student or the student family wants to fund. I mean, I think I don't want to limit the offerings, right? If it's available to them, great. But I still think maybe should have some basic or curriculum requirements to it. Here's here's and Jordan, you weren't here when we first started talking about this. Well, it has really made a shift um in terms of under myself. Uh this was kind of under I would say it wasn't very publicized. Um and it was very frustrating. Um my son um who's a senior at Madison um basically took a bunch of AP courses just because and having
086these conversations with the previous counselor um it it didn't go anywhere and it basically came back to the superintendent wasn't and didn't want and I don't know what he shared with you but it wasn't publicized and by statute you were able to offer it's right here Jacob has it about 18 credits throughout throughout their four years and every school around us is offering this to their students. And so we had a discussion um my first year and said, "Okay, board, what do you want to do? Are you on board with publicizing this and really advertising it to say because it is going to be a cost and we don't want, you know, should we prohibit that or should we um entertain it and celebrate it?" So, I think there's there's two sides of that coin.
087Uh, with that said, too, this only helps for kids. And to Jacob's point, again, from a staffing piece that we're working through, um, two years ago, we didn't even have a teched teacher. Um, we were somewhat limited even to this point, you know, how many kids take psychology. Well, that will feed and it's later in um the agenda. Um, Jacob has done a tremendous job redoing our course catalog um because it was bad. Um, and what our kids are offered uh versus what do they have access to and so when they do go postsecary um where are they in ratings of the Durans and some of the other schools. So I think this is what's best for kids if we're truly going to have that discussion. Um, in addition, is there a financial um component
088to this? Absolutely. Is there parameters? And I'll give you this parameter. In my second year as superintendent, I had a student, it was actually a board member student um that wanted to take uh music, rock and roll music history, >> right? >> And it was, are you kidding me? How does that fit into what we have? And so Jacob has put together and he vets all these classes to make sure some of those electives that are really kind of outrageous. Now if they are a music person and they want to, you know, that's their plans. He has those conversations. He he he knows these kids well enough to say, "Okay, it's not Brody Olsen is taking rock and roll music and he's going to business. Where in the heck would you ever use that?" So
089I think again with the process procedures that Jacob is putting together, I'm very confident in what you're seeing and would fully support uh the board um approving all these recommendations. Any questions on DD or any more information that you would like? >> Anybody have anything? >> Okay. Is there anything else within consent that you guys would like to have further discussion? >> Yeah. And uh S I just wanted that clear for the approval of the practices that it's optional. Just want to make clear that I'm assuming it's intended to be optional on holiday. >> Yes. But it's not stated. >> Okay. product, >> but it's good to I would agree. >> I get what you're saying. >> It needs to be >> because I will make sure that our ad is aware and makes sure
090that that language is in there each time. >> Yeah, good idea. All right. Anything else? Anybody? All right. I don't know. entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented. So move by Chuck. Do I have a second? >> Second by Scott. Any further discussion? >> Hearing none. Those in favor say I. >> I. Say no. Motion carried. Next up is our administrative reports. >> So the first three I just want to again bring further attention from the board or to the board. Uh first one bringing the community um to school day. uh just an awesome thing that the CTE department came up with and uh we we did some refining of it, but again looking forward to um I'm sorry, Chris always does a great job of putting it into a graphic for
091social media. So again, excited about where this is. I don't Mr. May any update on coming. >> Yep. As of when I last looked at the spreadsheet today, I think it was 22 20 22 25ish signed up. Um the ask was that every high school 912 staff member could actually bring in um someone and or post a workshop um postsecondary um career related um if they couldn't find someone. So, we have things from vets to um lawyers to military recruits to um I'm trying to think. I I recruited several of them. Um Mr. Kola has a martial arts instructor coming in. So, just a variety in different pathways. um the next week we'll be getting kids to sign up into x amount of sessions um for those and then those will be kind of the
092track they follow throughout that day. Um the plan at the end of the day then is to have a debrief slash students have lunch with those networking individuals community members that are able to stay informal presentation. this as a job type of thing as well. So, >> these type of career fair things are just that they're so instrumental in helping kids identify, oh, I didn't know that's what you do. Um, that's kind of some interest of mine. So, I think the CT department deserves a lot of credit putting this all together and again, it feeds into our community relations and trying to get our community into the building, uh, which has been great. So kudos to uh Mr. Maze in the CTE department. Um in the same breath uh there is a community service day
093uh email you I blind copy the board as they usually do. Um and so on this day just in case you get some feedback. Um this is where the freshman and sophomores take the preac. The juniors are going to CBTC in Northwoods with Mr. Mays. And then the high school uh or the senior class is going to be with Mr. Naris and myself and our focus is to try and help the elderly. Um it's kind of our community service day um or disabled within our community. So they're job is to send me these tasks. Um and then we're out and about helping our community. So um lots of good things of giving back. Uh Mr. uh before we release him tonight. I just put this um on there because again, kudos to him and now
094I'm seeing it's not attached. >> It is in there. >> It's in there. >> Oh, I put it behind I put it behind because it's it's still in draft form. So, >> um but kudos to Mr. at Maze for um putting this um I will just be very blunt in saying our former um course catalog was not very good um and there was lots of I would say questions um when you went through it wasn't very clear it's put together and I guess Mr. Here's your time to kind of talk about that process. >> Some of the parents, you know, there's a couple of parents that may have seen it through the email that sent out. It's still very draft formed. I took about I don't know, Patrick, you saw the spreadsheet that I had
095for some of the um graduation credit requirements. I mean, I took 60 plus cataloges from as many districts as I could find just to see what they include, what they offer, how they wealth, etc. um obviously just to get it in front of kids and students for registration purpose. It was very draft form that once I know exactly what is running, what we're offering, putting some of the extra things in that represent our regist. So um that in addition with kind of the scheduling process um has been slow but I think better than where we have been in past years. So >> it was uh previously you did not leave campus with a schedule and that's just not acceptable. Um these teachers deserve to know what they are doing next year before they leave for
096summer break. The schedule should be in place. Um, again, there's been lots and lots of meetings and follow-ups and, you know, between the admin and Jacob. And again, I just very pleased with where we're at. Um, and it takes time to get to this point, but again, thank putting it into so our students get access to these opportunities. >> So, you're keeping up with the times. Yes. Yes. The staff get to choose what they title their courses, but but yes. Um and just even even to the coding convention, that was another insightful in Skyward. Well, and just like I do such a good job with with this and just the wording of a class and how it's worded or titled um is I'm sure >> it impacts I mean Broady needs to know I mean
097the English classes if they're not worded or titled correctly they don't get credit for NCAA purposes classes even even the interest that's gauged. Amy, I had a staff member check with me earlier. There's a new class running for next year. And she's, "Oh my gosh, there's so many kids in the class. It's an elective class." And I'm just like, and there's so many people that registered. I'm like, "Yeah, because kids are interested in this and they want to, you know, see what it's all about." And I said, "We could split it in two sections, but we're probably not going to, but we could because there's that many that are interested." So even just the description, the course name, getting it out in front of the kids soon enough to to know just kind of drives
098that and helps get kids in seats in the classrooms. >> I know Dylan as a freshman, you're a very big help. >> So the next one is the lunch schedule. And again, there's some main drivers when it comes to the schedule itself. Um, basically we as an admin team and me specifically, um, having been a coach when we have our high school kids eating lunch at 1:30 and then we, uh, basically, you know, at 3:20 leave and we're trying to do a pregame meal. I mean, it just, long story short, uh, with Alyssa and the admin team and Jacob and we just sat down and just figured out. So with that said, uh we are looking at uh some changes when it comes to our lunch schedule so that we can uh be more productive
099in terms of getting kids through the lines in a timely fashion but also the time of day. So um just look that over. If you have any questions or comments, uh let us know. But the main goal is to get kids to eat earlier. Um, so they're not eating a bunch of crappy snacks in their locker. Um, you know, when you as a kid, you know, you think about it, you probably didn't eat breakfast. You rolled out of bed and they're coming in here. Although our grab and go has made a world of change. Um, and kudos to Mr. Nardis who had it in Cumberland. Um, we had it in Prairie Farm and it made a a huge difference. Um, and the it seems like the access to that is allowing kids to not only
100just a break after the first hour, but also grab some food um that they probably they know they should have got up early. They just don't. Um, and then with that said, uh, we're looking and in I don't know why mine's not showing up, so I apologize, but in there I put the, uh, cost process for us to go through Vendix to look at our comments, which is going to now be a serving station, um, for next year. So the times and that's the only way because we have one cooking kitchen. Um until we do some major renovations um we just sat down and tried to problem solve and how could we get this done uh knowing with what access we have um you know in Cumberland and even New Richmond we ended up cooking
101in one spot and busing it or vanning it over to other schools. So there's a lot of flexibility uh that other schools have to walk 50 ft is not a big deal. Um so we're working through that process. But again, just wanted to put that in front of the board making sure that you're aware of of our goal in the whole thing. Any questions on that? All right. I will turn it over to Miss Faith. >> All right. Um, Miss Ho was due to start with her dynamic learning math. So, the DLM assessment. This is um one of the um alternate statewide assessments for students with cognitive disabilities. Um she has a nice um window starting today through the 24th. Um, one of the reasons for this extended window, it allows for that flexibility because
102a lot of times, most times um, she is oneonone with students. So this is that alternate um assessment when they take the um ACT the preac um assessment and it's just one. So we have 10 students that take um that assessment um just provides that just like any other assessment. It provides a score that helps to guide where they're at. But again, a lot of times more importantly for those students, it's what in the classroom that shows and what guides your instruction. Um last week while we were here or while in the office um I know Christa heard it quite often um that child care um portion they in the building. Tiny Top or Tiny Tots came over to hang out hang time. They had a blast while they were in the building. Um they
103kind of got to do a trial run of that move over here. Um and speaking just speaking um with Beth was amazing because she was so excited. They had partnership just all across. I mean it's always nice to hear and to see but hearing the kids in the gym. Um, as you can see in the pictures, um, one of the things that she really enjoyed was just seeing those walkers going down the hallway. Um, she was excited because they were navigating through more doorways and they were just just having so much fun. But also the collab collaboration time with the staff all together, which they only would get to do on those close days for Tiny Tots. Um, they got to do as a whole group and they just really enjoyed it. So, it was
104a very fun time for them. They also got to go out and enjoy some of that really nice snow. Um, so they all seem to really like that. Um, families also, she said, really appreciated that drop off in the single drop off location. So, um, mine was very short tonight, so it's been a great kind of look back there. >> That's really showing off baby ink. They're both in the same spot. Oh, I'm sure. Yes. >> Yep. You're up. All right. So, we um have been working on I've been working with the third, fourth, and fifth grade teachers as far as get ready for Wisconsin forward. That's coming up where fourth grade will start. Yeah. Subject areas. So, they'll pick us up and then third and fourth grade will be after third and fifth grade,
105excuse me, will be after that. So, just working with teachers, they have to get go through a training and be certified. Jill Wright has been amazing behind the scenes. She's been helping us serving as our district assessment coordinator, setting up the different systems and that kind of stuff. So really appreciate her on the back side of that. The elementary has reached two 200 positive office referrals. So the latest um celebration that we had was we did an all school movie. We did a K2 movie and then a 35 movie and we watched Zootopia 2. Kids did awesome with that. I will say my K2 did much better behaviorally than my 35. Um, their eyes were glued to the screen the entire time. Um, but that was a good time. The kids enjoyed that. Also, PTC
106has been really stepping it up um at the elementary school and working on some fundraising things. One of the things that I brought to PTC last fall was potentially using some of the funds um that PTC has to offset the cost of field trips for students. So, if you notice any of the box cut stuff that has gone out on social media, that's all offsetting the cost of field trips for students and some of the funds that they've been raising throughout the year. So, as far as our spring fling that we had um with attendance with that um admission and that kind of stuff that goes back into the students. So, that's been fun to see for our students and staff. And then the last thing that I had was um one of the things
107that Allison Shony actually brought here. We did it in Cumberland. We did a wax museum in our fifth grade and we did it for famous people throughout um history. But what we've done here, the twist that Allison has brought to us in the shony is we do careers here. So it able is goes into the CTE part of things that we start down at the elementary school and each student picks a career that they research um and then they come up with a presentation and then they dress up like the career that they want and then we invite all the parents in and teachers come by and classrooms and so that we had that uh a couple weeks ago. Any questions for me? I think you're hearing a theme, you know, from the work that
108is being done by all our staff. It's the why. It's the why the what motivates these kids to get to the point that they are. You know, this is such a great experience because let these kids dream. I mean, that's truly what it's about. So, >> all right, Mr. All right. Middle School High School. Uh, we went through the ACT and I tell you in my years I've been an administrator, I don't think I've ever seen an ACT test go as smooth as smooth as it did here. We had very few glitches if any with technology. Till Red's amazing. Um, she did a great job coordinating this, setting it up. Um, we had 100% attendance. I don't think you've ever seen that before. Um, kids in the parking lot at the beginning of the day,
109um, cooking breakfast. I mean, it just was just a really cool um day for our kids. Um Jer made breakfast for all the kids. There was no technical problems as I mentioned. Uh we do have one student has to test during window too when we get back here obviously with the break and accommodations entered later. So, I got a really good feeling about how how well our kids tested. I think you're going to be really proud of uh how they how they score here. So again, a huge shout out to Jill for all the work she put in and then Mr. Popco, Miss Blackmore, many other teachers. Um they don't have to do this, but they go out of their way coming before school and set setting up uh testing sessions and stuff like that
110to help kids prep, prepare for it. Um we have some interesting things. Some Mr. Paco offered, I think, to have his head shaved, eyebrow eyebrow shaved if they test a certain uh get to a certain point. So, um I got to have some things carved inside of my head if they get up to a certain point, too. So, thought kids really enjoy that. But, anything get kids to focus on it and understand the quirks of it is really cool. And you can see below that uh for our next testing uh we got a pre ACP coming up and uh on April 8th. Got some things going on with the other class of met those days. The musical great performance 40 of our kids. I think about the percentage of our kids and the high school
111kids that are actually performing in this. It's pretty cool. Um we have one of the performances up uh due to weather. But again, Mr. Lamb, Miss Williams, they they did such a great job. in the art department just all the work they did to get these kids prepared to put on this performance city wrestling I just I don't know if I've had a better experience uh um watching the team go down you know first time ever in Columbus City but just to represent our community they went down they worked their tails off ran into a tough team but I think might have had to sher this might have the most community support in that lacrosse of all the schools that were there. That's pretty pretty impressive. Um, another thing you may not see for a
112while, Brody Olsen, Dun St. Croy, co-player of the year, and Wayan Cro done St. Croy male wrestler of the year. You may not see that for a long time in the same district in the same year. That's pretty impressive, those guys. And you could ask for two young young individuals, young men, just proud of those guys and the hard work that they've done. Again, topper power, topper pride. So, we're happy with that. Uh we talked a little bit earlier about some of the things that we you know bring in outside people in to work with our kids. Personal finance students in this multi 12th grade personal finance class Wisconsin credit unions cash. I think every kid uh will definitely have to take personal finance to get into this class. It's just was really good to
113see what kind of uh things uh they had to go through to learn all the different things and creating budgets, making purchases throughout the experience, things like that. It's very realistic and thank you to Wisconsin Crate Union for helping us out on that. What I really like and think Chris does a lot of this here. I appreciate that. The senior spotlight post on our social media just to see what our where our kids are going, what they're doing, who inspired them, things like that. I think it's really cool. So, um, get a chance, check those out. Uh, we talked about bring a community school day earlier. Uh, DECA news. Clayton Hoffman was originally asked to attend internationals as a delegate in a leadership role, but Miss Alti got a call by the DECA charter uh
114advisor who has personally invited Clayton to compete at the international level. So, that's really neat. They typically do not have extra openings for uh competitors, but um there were extenduating circumstances and after reviewing the leaders going, Clayton was number one choice. So there again, another Glen City kid going on doing some great things here, representing us very well. Uh, as Jacob talked about again, I mentioned earlier, you don't have a good counselor. Things can get really tough and um, he's doing a fantastic job with all the expectations of a guidance counselor, but we're working on our master schedule, getting that taken care of. Um, Dr. Curtis put some things out here with the materials. Sixth grade math students recently started a new program called WGO. was recently purchased for the ELA classes and now I've
115been added to math and Sullivan sixth grade ELA and math teacher have been using the new pro program of students is a product from HMHCO that offers personalized assessment instruction and placement in individually guided online learning activities. Um it allows Miss Sullivan to differentiate in fun targeted um and deliberate instruction. students get to work at their own pace and access this instruction during their targeted win time. This program will be used with all students, however, especially offers enrichment potential for students at and above grade level. So, that's it. It goes based on where they're at. So, that's a really exciting new program that's working well. High school equivalency courses. Um we received a large uh received approval from the DPI for three high school equivalency science courses that we apply for large animal science, small
116animal science and veterary. So that uh veterary science that's going to be awesome to have that um available for our kids and thank you to Rose Gillson and again Jacob for the work on preparing the curriculum crosswalk needed for these three applications. athletic updates. As we mentioned, sub Bruce G is coming back at uh 94 years old to be our assistant golf coach. Um appreciate him coming back. Uh we have an applicant for track and field, but not interviewed yet, so we're working through that. Softball, baseball, and track practices have begun. Um golf practice will start on the 30th. Middle school track and field on April 7th. Uh the first competition for track is uh I believe this Thursday uh at W Falls Indoor Me. Uh the winter sports survey will go out this week
117to student athletes and respective parents. Applications for both head basketball coaching positions will be open on the 9th of April. Mattie Oaki is recommended as our next uh head volleyball coach. She'll do a great job. uh discussions uh are being uh had on how to increase female participation in the TOPS program and building three sport athletes and a school as you know as our size we need those three sport athletes to be competitive to be out otherwise our numbers we just can't it's hard to it's hard to compete seniors landed over miller and opal bullets have been selected as our dun cro conference scholar athletes they will be recognized at banquet Wednesday April 1st at the off probably um that's all I have to question. >> The only thing I will add is just the
118I sent the board the update via email, but wanted to reiterate um our middle school high school principal process. Uh we've gone through um just see your email if you haven't yet as far as where we're at. uh we have another applicant that we're interviewing tomorrow and so there's a lot of staff members that are part of that process and I will have more updates but um looking forward to finalizing that but also part of my recommendation is going to be bringing back Mr. Argus in a mentor role um to help assist. Um, I think we've made so many gains this year and I'd hate to go backwards and I think having him here in a limited role from a mentoring process is going to be pretty um substantial um not only at the middle
119school high school level but also to allow Jamie to maybe uh spend a little more time with curriculum um instead of some behaviors which is seems to be a niche for Mr. artists as he develops relationships. So more information will come on that but again a lot of great things that were just presented to you administration. Any questions on any of those? >> Um do we want to take I know it's been different. Um there are meals over there. Um and I know you weren't able to. Do you guys want to take a minute to grab meals and eat or take a look after? Keep going. >> I'm gonna use the restroom since you brought it up. >> Okay. >> Are you still mad? Are you still mad because we're not put I don't care.
120>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Is that a cool reference? >> Yes. Yes. Well, I think they're connected with um the account. >> I can think of I can see the girls's got to go this summer. Yeah. >> He's playing with them. >> Yeah, he's on the >> offse. >> That's the nice thing about being so close, too. He just gets to drive over there. >> How long does it take? >> Oh, that's it. >> You jump out. You go through the Richmond and Still Water Bridge and >> Yeah, it's going to be >> good. >> He actually he's working with Keem. >> Oh, really? >> That house. >> Oh, is he really? Yeah. >> Oh, what a good experience for him. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, >> yeah. He uh he's done it with me, but
121not for Keem. Well, we did a cabin, but yeah, Keem is just those two. Put some Thin Mints on the counter over there. >> He's going to put that. >> I know you want one. >> One day customer service reprod trying to fix one of the machines. He goes, "Just take it. I got to do to >> Yeah. Yeah, right. >> I actually left it in my office. >> She's got a heat. >> I got my jacket. >> I'm not cold tonight, though. >> I wore layers. Did you do those other pictures for the uh sorry >> I'm talking I'm not happy either. >> Did you design those ones or did you send them those picked up for the signs for the state? >> Chat GBT. I put them in chat GBT. I like a
122lot. >> First one is um very happy. Um I just I can't express how much Deb Newman has done for our district in such a short amount of time. um she's not able to be here tonight um as her family's going through some health issues, but um she's just a a wonderful human being that stepped into a very difficult role. And so um in sense, you approved her uh the next individual that will take over and we're excited for Laura Shepard to take that role. uh we feel very good about the process that we did to hire that individual. Um but again uh we got some time yet for uh to spend with Miss Newman. But um reluctantly I'm going to ask that you approve her retirement for the second time. But again, I think
123all of us in this room understand what she has done for Gwent. >> Absolutely. We're very fortunate to have that. All >> right. I'll entertain a motion for the approval of retirement notice of Dev Newman. >> Motion made by Derek. Is there a second? >> Second by Jordan. >> Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. >> I. Say no. Motion carried. >> Uh the next one is the statement that the board has put together. Uh the reason I put this on is again um I'm very much transparency um trust in putting those two items together. Um it was individually signed by each board member, but I would like to see it approved um just to solidify it. This has already been sent to the DA and also the corrections officer that
124requested it. Um so we're just looking for a motion to approve the statement by all board. Anybody want to make that motion? >> So move. >> Motion by Scott. Do I have a second? >> I'll second. >> Second by Steve. >> Any further discussion? >> Hearing none. All those in favor say I. >> Say no. Motion carries. >> Just an update on the timing of that. So the next time we won't have a meeting before then. So on uh April 7th, I will be there for the 10:00 um session, which is where I will take the stand, and Judge Nem will allow me to make my statement uh that I've been working on. Um and then also answer any questions that he may have. And then the sentencing hearing will start at 1:30. And then
125after that, I will have a statement ready for the district um and send that out um so if you have any questions in the meantime, let me know. >> Are you going to make make us aware what your statements or the school statement is? >> Yes. Yeah. I don't have it done yet. I worked on it last week. I've been working on it for a while. Um, I think what goes into is there's been many statements made and I want to make sure that I fill in the gaps um that are there just because there's quite a few uh unknowns in terms of I think you're you're aware of them obviously, but uh the general public may not be and so um yeah, you will have that u ahead of time. Actually, I'll give it
126to you. Um but again it's a it's a work in progress for me. Um I was given the ability to basically have it ready on that day. So but you will have it uh before I publicly stated. All right. Uh district calendar. Uh this was interesting process this year. Um but again the main point behind it was as administrators we were really trying to um come up with different recruiting tools very similar to Scott's point about uh the offering of drivers education. We're trying to come up with ways to incentivize staff. Um, I think we can all agree that um, educators don't get paid what they're worth, but what we can do is do some other items and I always call them um, um, indirect compensation, which is again, it's not salary, but again, giving
127them an opportunity and and even this year's calendar, I've I've had various people say, you know, the breaks that are in there um including the one that was given um for Halloween. So we took that and ran with it a little bit and um you're aware of all the other parts. So the recommendation is uh for this calendar uh the difference is is that this starts before September 1, but we as you know have the approval u from DPI to start early. So with that, um, if approved tonight, I will send out a, uh, statement, but also the documentation to families to understand that we are starting before September 1. But, um, there's been a lot of vetting through this process to incorporate um, you can call them whatever you want, mental health breaks, opportunities
128for families to take vacations, um, or even staff to allow them a little break here and there. And I think uh there's been a lot of thought process behind this. Edmond has talked to their levels respectively and uh this is the final product. Um any questions? >> Does do the orientation days? >> Correct. >> Okay. So if you look at uh this part um these three uh you know the PLLD is is staff um districtwide open house that's a change that we're making to make sure families you know they have multiple kids at multiple levels orientation days are summer school financially uh we wanted to keep that consistent and then start before which allowed us some breaks throughout the year. So again, I think this is a pretty generous calendar. Um, I think it's creative.
129Uh, thanks to our admin and staff putting their heads together and kind of coming up with different ways to provide some breaks because I think we, you know, kids need breaks from us adults and we need breaks from them and staff need breaks from from me. So, um, I think it's one of those where we found hopefully the sweet spot. This is only to Dr. Kaiser's question last time. Uh this is one year and so this doesn't roll on. So we'll see how it goes and then go from there. >> Is is there any consideration as to like we have to take multiple days off in the winter time? >> Yes, that is uh that is broken down and included in the recommendation. So if you look at uh where is it? Oh, >> um
130>> I don't I didn't see any >> I got to put that document. I apologize. There was another one that was the summary. I showed it last time. It didn't uh transfer over, >> but it it talks about how many snow days are built in there plus how many uh days are built in for PLLDS, etc. It's all broken down. >> I didn't I didn't see any. >> It's not in this one. That's my my fault. Um, so I guess I'm looking for final approval from the board if you agree. >> Any questions? >> Makeup days because to your point on snow days, where did the makeup days come from? Was that length in the calendar or are they taking >> It's taken into consideration within the calendar up to uh two days I believe
131it was. Then the other parts to that is >> right. >> What's that? >> Would we do e-learning? Well, >> we we are not I think it's it's it's our belief um especially myself where you know you think about even uh when we get to a snow day how does the elementary prepare for something like that these schools I've asked point blank I said to the super I said how are you guaranteeing that your elementary kids have an online device we Well, how and if they prepare for it, that's different. Um, but that's one of the things where I think there's a little bit of >> I don't know if maybe there's e-learning or maybe there's um, uh, preparatory stuff that's sent home with kids. >> You can get to that point. Um, for us
132right now, when it comes to the the number of hours and required, uh, there's ways that we did that. For example, we did change the schedule uh in terms of passing minutes and um lunch. So, we have a 30 minute time frame, but then we open up the gyms. So, the kids inhale their food and it doesn't take 30 minutes. So, you take that 10-minute gap and if you open the gyms, that's counted as instructional time. So, that builds in extra time for you. So, um yeah, I think like I said is I think it's a good balance between family, staff, um and just overall um breaks for for staff, which was the main goal. >> And was there um now this was the survey was through through the staff primarily. >> Yeah, I did
133not survey family members. Not that I don't mind what their opinion is, but in in the end it does come down to staff and our preparation. Um, what I have learned in my 13 years as a soup, uh, families take vacations when it's best for them. It's not >> years ago, they probably stayed more towards a spring break. Um, that type of thing, but nowadays it's, you know, >> depends on their work. It depends on flights. It depends on what's budgetwise. So, we'd be trying to please everyone and we'd absolutely fail. >> Yeah. I don't think that the only thing I could think of is it's always been how long it goes into June. They complain how late it goes into June, but then now if we're starting earlier, is that going to tie into
134>> and it's really, if you look at it, it's it's basically starting one week earlier. I mean, it's not that big. Plus, they get out and there's no June dates, which I think is huge. >> Yeah, I think so. I think that's great. I always said I think you need to be done again. >> All right. Um, would anybody like to make a motion to approve the 20267 district calendar? >> So, move. >> Motion is made by Chuck. Do I have a second? >> Second by Scott. Any discussion? The only other feedback that I wanted to see unrelated to starting early was um you know spring break. So it always >> yeah all the holiday. So, so the way that it worked out, okay, so the way that like this year it was not, next
135year it was and that one day gained us to use a day somewhere else. So, um, as I explained to staff, um, ACT is one of the main drivers and we've been working with the state constant like get it out of March. Everybody wants to take a spring break. Get it, you know, do something. Well, it can't go into April because that's too late. And then you really want to do it in February. And so there's no perfect time. And then you get to the comment of sports. Well, our sports start here. Well, my kid's not done from winter sports. >> You just you can't find that perfect one. Um for next year's calendar, it was truly uh by using a holiday of Good Friday, it was trying to make the most. This year, they're
136separate. So, Every year is a little different. >> I see it, Chris. Thank you. >> Got it. Okay. >> She put that up there. >> Oh, there it is. So, that's I apologize for not putting that in this one. >> It's okay. All right. I have a motion in a second on the table. Any other questions? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. >> Say no. Motion carried. >> Next up is our 25 26 26 27th budget update. Now, I could spend three hours on this and I'm not going to do that uh because it's already 8:10. Um but what I am going to do is just kind of do a direct overview um and click on this document that you have access to. I'm going to highlight, so please just stop me um
137because there's a lot of information here um as we go through this process. number one uh state of Wisconsin DPI the 26th uh and even ongoing there's is as you probably know there's a huge surplus at the state level and there's a bunch of bickering and fighting um I think one of the pressing points for us as superintendent uh that I had conversations with um excuse me um Senator Sasho was you promised 38 uh% for sped reimbursement follow through with it. And that's pretty simple. Um, Senator, excuse me, Representative Boss was kind of the main stay behind it. And honestly, what's holding this up is politics and that's pretty unfortunate. So, we still don't know. Um, what I did want to bring to your attention, and I don't and not recommending this, um, but like
138Oaklair has joined the lawsuit against the state. Um, I hate and you'll never hear me try to bring politics into the board of education. Um, but I think it's pretty interesting that a school district has joined the lawsuit um against the state. I think you're going to see that more based on a political environment. But just know that there's that ongoing negotiation. Uh, Warsaw, if you haven't heard of Warsaw, it's Wisconsin Rural Schools Alliance. Um, I've always seen them from afar. Um, we actually were part of this in Prairie Farm. Um, it's very small in terms of a fee, 300 to 500, but um, actually I got it for free. Um, talking with the representative, just want to see if they have updated their processes. um I don't like getting um attached to lobbyists and
139so forth, but they do have some staff members there that are very good with data and I've actually taken some of their data and used it in various presentations. So, um something that you'll hear u moving forward, uh general spending for the district, uh Dev and I implemented this last year, we're going to do it again um because it just helps. So, general spending for basically teachers, not admin or supervisors seizes on April 4th. Um, did want to bring up the board audit because I need to review the schedule um because I do it based on the election and so forth. So, I just wanted to ask the board, do you have any questions, comments, concerns about the board audit that we implemented? Do you feel it's a good process? gives you an opportunity connection.
140>> When I went through with I kind of asked her for some guidelines because, you know, obviously I'm not really that I'm new to board audits and financial audits of a school district. And I think if we can before she leaves get a good kind of hit list of what, you know, other board members should be looking at, you know, as we have everything and as we get in with board members. um having some sort of kind of guideline to help structure what they were for you know in transactions you know within the country would be helpful. We knew that Deb was going to res uh retire and so again we filed two months overlap and I think that two months overlap as you saw um I put in there the fair recommendation and then
141unfortunately there are schools that you know one comes the other one leaves and good luck I think we're going to be in really good shape with that two month I know it comes at an expense but again we talk about professional development that's going to be We'll bring that up Jordan in terms of when the board so she'll she'll be able to go through two months board audits with you guys to kind of see what that actually entails. >> So if you have a new individual better >> I mean that's a learning curve process for that individual. So I think that'd be really challenging and probably stressful for >> Yeah. And the biggest thing is is you know again understand the process. Why did we implement it to start? It was to, you know, allow
142you guys to see random things. Um, again, in my previous, when we did this in Richmond, every time the board member took my expenses, every time. Um, and that's one way that they really were able to see, you know, with the top person in the district, what is he doing, how is he spending his budget, and, you know, what does that look like? Um and then from there it's matter of I want to learn about CT, I want to learn about CISA, I want to learn about some other things. So there's just various I would say process procedures in place with that with that board audit. Um in the same breath uh this actually came uh to our attention uh from Derek and we're actually moving forward with it. So thank you Derek. Um, this
143was on our radar in terms of moving forward with it somehow someway here in Glenda City. Um, I was pretty fortunate at New Richmond. We did a financial scorecard every month. Um, but it was because my finance director was sitting next to me at every meeting. And so, um, we don't have that. And I I'm not going to ask Deb or even Laura to come here every month. But the scorecard is actually a it's very similar to the bear model. It's a spreadsheet on steroids and it allows um so Derek made a a connection with Derek Slitter. So Derek Overly with Derek Slitter and Deb and I sat down with it um and it was uh again he basically take an export of Skyward and put it into this um Excel file. There's a it
144it costs well they would give it to us free um but we they would charge 350 to do a setup and I was not going to put that on Deb because our plate our plate is full trying to just create process and procedures um from the situation that we're in. So uh we're moving forward with it. I don't know Derek if you had any s you know any additional comments. >> Yeah. No thanks. uh one of the at the convention is one of the things that it does a great job of creating throughout the year uh on far as categories what historically and on top of that as we get a new account in one of the biggest benefits is it kind of has basically as you've been bump and closing times it will kind
145of give you this checking balance of oh did I actually send all these checks or did I receive this income and allows them to raise the flag. Oh yeah, we got to do this yet before we close the book. So a lot of benefits especially as we get someone new in that role. So I'm glad that this was so actually you will see the first one here in April if they follow through for their promise. So they're working on it right now and again by our discussions and meetings you should see it here in April. So thank you for burning >> that's the thing I don't really have a good picture. Um, in the same token, you know, this we're still working on this um increase indicators that we talked about again that was a
146$2,000 budget item and we're working on curriculum to um there's just there's more to try and get through than time. Um, which is just it's just part of the game. And I think again the administrators here, especially coming from other districts, understand that we're basically building things from scratch. Um, and I think they would attest to that. But, uh, that's one of the things we'll continue to work on. Strategic planning. We talked about curriculum needs, um, technology needs. Um, just want to do a quick update. You know, we already talked about the curriculum piece and the funding that's going to be needed here in the future. technology. Frank is doing a great job. You know, our PA system was done and actually uh put in over spring break. Today was the first one. And kids,
147it's so funny because the two gals that do the announcements were freaking out because it's not the same equipment and I couldn't hear it. And they came into my office and they're like, it was Alexis Holmes and um Miss Shony and they're like, "What what did you do? the the songs are different. Let's go back. And I said, well, we can't because we were basically on a borrowed time and we have to go to eBay to fix this thing. >> So, um, looking forward to getting through some of those things. Um, and working out the bugs. >> Uh, another thing that's going to be on our docket is the phones. And again, I've told the board this numerous times in my two and a half years. If I have to say the word eBay to
148you, it kind of tells you where we're at. Uh, with our phones, we are at that point and Marco only um will support us on an emergency basis, but our phones are not able to be updated. And so, we would have to go to eBay to get some parts and so on. So, we're working through um, one of the things that I want to put on your radar is, uh, we were working on this when I left from Richmond. We actually went with Zoom um and it was a balance between um audiovisisual uh with co and zoom which then uh partners with the phone and the price reduction is uh substantial um and it also allows for the online component. Um so there's uh a lot of discussion. Frank's actually going to go over to
149my former director over there and they're going to talk. So, uh, phones is on our radar, um, because we're we're well past the life of what our phones can do and phones and PA kind of go hand in hand. Uh, staff computers, uh, that you approved are here and they're currently being set up by one thing on phones. I know at least with us at work, we have to kind of keep phones actually in the area from a safety perspective. So, if somebody has an emergency, they're not going to have access to a computer and Zoom. So we may need to have you know some >> we already have that. Yeah. So we have we do the same where you know if internet's down you still have to have access. So we do every classroom
150will still have a functional phone uh for safety reasons but uh there's a lot of updated um options especially the correspondence between uh video calls and so forth. It's really uh the technology has really changed and it's actually cheaper than than the old uh um analog phone system that it was here. So, more information on that uh budget revision policy. Um Deb and I are working on this, but there was a mistake uh with the FTE in September. So, we did overlevy uh in this and you will have a budget adjustment that will be coming your way. um 85% of the districts are seeing open enrollment decline and that was just a mistake that was made on one of our reports. So you'll see that budget adjustment next month and I will explain that more
151um in the additional discussion with the budget revision. Um they're very different than what you veteran board members have seen from Ron or from previous. Um, the best way I can describe it is previous accountant use the school process like your personal budget. Meaning, say you have a savings and you have a checking. Well, I need to cover some checking, so I just take it for my savings. You can't do that. You're not supposed to do that. It's against statute to do that. you need to have a board approved budget um adjustment and they should only come to you in certain instances. Well, this was happening without your knowledge all the time and it shouldn't have been. And so with our checks and balances that we've uh put into place again, so next month you're
152going to see one of the the first formal budget adjustments because we haven't had to do it. Um but if you can it's I'll talk more about the FTE part. Um the next part is just uh a followup from bear and this is from our January board session and so I encourage you to look these are some of the questions that we've been discussing. Um so take a look at those graphics that are in here. Uh these are follow-up charts that uh they're provided Debbie if you remember from our January meeting. Um, but we'll go into more of that as we continue our referendum discussion. Um, get back u 38, fun 39. There's again more information there. Forecasting wise, I'm gonna they call it an open gym, but basically I plan uh to take Laura
153with me and it's basically sitting with Baird and really learning how to use that B model uh more um in an efficient manner. Um so working on that uh we've already corrected it. So when you see the bear model, the FTE mistake that I talked about is already corrected. uh the goal of sharing assumptions. You know, these are just things that we talked about at the January work session. Um campus building transportation budget-wise, excuse me, we uh talked about the salt spreader. Um I wanted to bring to your attention this Bobcat. So, the reason that we went forward with the John Deere is this Bobcat that was purchased I don't even know when, um many years ago. Um, it's a piece of junk and we I could not consciously uh try and sell it unless
154it worked. We did have to put $3,000 worth and Jerry has been working on it just to get it running. Um, we're going to sell it as is. We also have four attachments, four or five, and we're pricing that out. That's from a plow to a snow uh blower to a sweeper. But basically the PTO um was not working. The injectors were um completely clogged and it still doesn't have the ability. Um we're going to try it. Um but it's not the machine that we purchased. So that was a good process to go through, but wanted to give you an update that we were working on sale of this and you'll see it here shortly. Uh fall referendum. The next item on the agenda I'm going to ask uh the board. We talked about this
155the school perception. If there's a company out there that talks about um a survey um is school perception. So we talked about this at our work session. So instead of me doing a performance survey at the end of the year, we actually use school perception and I think it's going to be very much worth our while because of what they can do. uh they're proven. You talk to any school that has gone to referendum and majority have used uh school perception. So, we'll talk about that. Um unfortunately, I was sick uh the 10th. So, I would like to reschedu that work session. Um what I need some direction from the board is understanding that Mr. Davis is done tonight. So, somebody will take his spot and then that we also have an election coming up
156um with the possibility of having some new people, a new person on the board, two new people. So, understanding that, where would you like to go in terms of having these meetings? Um because again, um with new people coming on board, some people leaving, you know, it gets a little dicey in terms of making decisions and how you'd like to move forward. So the last part of the agenda, we always talk about future meetings. I guess I again I would like to get direction from the board in terms of what do you want to do when it comes to rescheduled the February 10th work session that we had planned. Our focus was going to be district programming um to help understand some of the needs based on referendum and then you know in general referendum
157discussions with the election coming up here in early April. >> Yeah. I mean if we back through referendum in what November 3rd 70 days I think before that we have to have on submitted. So that's August 25th. We do need August 24th, but if we're having any type of task force of people in the community, we really going to want probably three to four months for that if that's what we want to do. Um because you're going to have to do school board finance 101. uh looking at some of the other um schools that have done it. They kind of did twohour sessions, four-hour sessions on the school board finance talking about the scope and the quantity and amount and the timeline of the referendum and then you got to get to the referendum question.
158So really that gets us almost all the way back to April time frame >> and I guess from a from a workshop at least there's really no decision point there, right? We're just redoing a lot of that content. So with the board change over can we get through a chunk of that work and then obviously have to redo that with the potential new members, right? So, are we creating rework by doing it early or are we kind of getting ahead of it but then still having a review with the updated board? That's the question that I'm posing to you is because yeah, I think when you're talking about possible um two new board members out of seven um yeah, I because you all represent our community and having the decision makers have as much information
159as possible. Um it gets a little it gets hard. So, I'm just looking for you guys to help guide me in terms of do we just wait um or do we schedule something here um to have it on the books and then go through and reschedule that the 10th to move forward after the election? It would be basically early May. >> Yeah. Well, we could I mean the election is >> April 7th. April 7th. So we can, you know, you could do it the next week because that person we'd know and we could get it on the books and just understand that um just to stay on track because to your point Derek, you know, we have only so much time to tell our story and how that works. And this board is uh has
160to make a big decision in terms of are we looking at one question uh operating which we know we have to do or are we looking at two questions which is a bond or are we trying to find a hybrid between the two. >> So we have a meeting on the books for April 13th and April 27th. April 13th is the uh election. Yep. No, >> no. The election, the final um candidacy. Thank you. >> So, the new board member does not come on board until the 27th officially >> or on the matter. >> It doesn't really matter as soon as they're sworn in because you also will have reorganization here in April. Well, I mean, there's a May 11th. There's only one meeting in May. Do you want to throw another one in May?
161>> I'm open to whatever you guys want. I just need us to think about it um with the again the question that lingers in terms of board turnover. >> I mean, potentially how we need to do both any right. One's going to be programming and the other's going to be facility related again right question. I hate to say wait because it's been hard to get traction, but would be good to make sure we got all >> I will tell you this that um it's a little close to my liking, but there's districts that literally two weeks ago that are on the April ballot got their website up and going and I mean it was very like there's a lot more last minute than there is a lot of planning. Now, I'm not asking or saying
162that because I'm the opposite. I want as much possible time to go to these um sites in terms of go to the town of Glenwood meetings uh the village of X Y Z and explain here's what the need is and here's why. But we have to get down to the point of deciding is it one question, is it two, or is it a hybrid? >> I think you I think you you got to get that ball rolling like you said the traction you got to get get motion going one way or the other. So I think you people will get on board, people will get up to speed. Um there's a foundation already set. We've already had some major discussion about it. So we kind of we kind of know where we're directed. So I
163would suggest to have those meetings, try to get things going a bit and um all the all the referendum like when convention I went to a lot of those referendums. It takes more time than people think and it takes a lot of energy. I mean when we had our last one we spent a lot long time on that and it was it was like a year project you know. So if you want it to go, you you got to you got to get that work going and get things out there so people are aware and you know got to sell your story. So I would say keep that ball rolling as much as you can. >> So it come down to you know we canvas on the 13th. What's the 13th? >> It's Monday. Sophie
164went on a Tuesday or that Wednesday, you know, just because we'll have the results, they will be canvased. We can swear in the new people then and there and then just keep keep the ball rolling. >> Does that work? Good. All right. Um, with that said, um, the school year for next year, uh, again, one of the bigger things that, uh, I'm still frustrated with is just the time needed to finish out this handbook. Uh, we're working on it. Um, everything, it seems like weekly there's things that come up for us to implement. Uh the other thing I want to make sure that the board is aware uh especially with where our fund 80 is um especially bigger districts we were doing this in Richmond you can use middle school athletics and use fund 80
165it provides a little bit we don't spend a lot here on middle school athletics but based on where our uh overall fund balance is it may help us Um, in short, new district, uh, accountant, we talked about staffing for next year. Um, I told admin, you know, we're status quo, especially going to referendum. Um, but moving some of the pieces, um, would make sense and Miss Schaefer's working on that. Um, Aeron's working on that. Aaron's actually done a great job with our speech. um she was working her magic in terms of uh the contract that you approved tonight. Um and trying to get somebody here on staff um and she interviewed some individuals and then was working with and her negotiation skills uh are getting better and better. So um some money savings there. Uh
166compensation we're going to talk about here. Um and basically the question is how do you want to proceed? We have not been in a position as a board um you know I did the same process that I did in New Richmond. I want to make sure that that's how you would like to but we have not been in position to talk compensation in the spring because we've been going through so many audits and our budget was not uh in the correct manner and so forth. District benefits is another big piece. uh we continue to get hit. We won't have final numbers on that until June, but understanding that we've been um really um at a high cliff in terms of usage, well over the 1.0 or 100%, however you want to look at it. Um
167Derek joined me for uh a meeting, online meeting with W, Mark, and Johnson. I think uh these are some of the discussions that we're going to have to have. Um these are the planning pieces. Um I thought one of the more interesting comments that was made was this one right here. this area was not built on the specs and uses discussions of previous um and I my wording is wrong there but basically they're saying that the way that the CTE area is was designed was not to the usage that we have right now and part of that makes sense because and I wasn't here so I again I'm and Derek heard say that they talked about how these elephants and basically it came down to fire suppression and for us to do the things because
168of the issues we're having with the areas, you know, and the um those elephants we're calling uh to get the debris and the just the welding um oxygen and everything else. There's just an imbalance in there. It's why Mr. Keem goes home and blows out black crap. So, that was one of the things that we talked about and it came back to where um and again, I don't I don't want to say they're throwing you under the bus, but it was like >> it's a little thrown under the bus because we really talked about that a lot. They were like, "Nope, these will do your issue that it'll be you'll be okay. These are these are great, but >> yeah." And I I had a feeling there was some of that. It does come back
169to though to where it's very similar. Um here's the best analogy I can give you. Um in New Richmond, right before I got there, they went to a it was a $54 million um reference to build a new high school within uh the it didn't pass by 20 votes. They came back and there was a different set of property and it turned into a $94 million largest in state history at the time and that was just in a two-year period. It rose 40 million and with that it was the board's decision was based on we have to invest if we want the outcome in 10 15 years. Well, the same discussion was about this if we want this area to be fixed in the right manner and not band-aid or some of the things that
170we're talking about to really keep the school up to date. We have to do fire suppression which means the main water line coming from the city is at 4 in and it's not feasible to feed the school. that has to go to a 6 in. So you're talking you got to get, you know, everybody involved from the state. You have to rip up the parking lot and redo. And it's an investment that I think did sway me a little bit more in terms of the referendum. We have to do that work based on >> Yeah. especially the success program especially the one so they're running numbers right now and I as soon as I have that data I will have you know pass it on and we'll have a work session just based on that
171but you know they came back in terms of and they talked about well we could do the old style dust collector on the outside of the building. If we go on the top, we'd have to reinforce the roof. But it always came back to fire suppression. And you know, the reason that we did the learning commons the way we had to because if you go to like a Hudson or a newer school, they don't have these doors like we do because they have fire suppression and it's just more of an open concept. And to Derrick's point, I mean, after that meeting, I was like, it's a no-brainer that we have to do we have to go through that work with the city and upgrade our main line to a 6 in at minimum for the
172future of for 10 years for decisions that I won't even be here for. Um, but it's going to come at a cost. It's going to come at an investment. But if you don't, you're going to be band-aid like we did and like we have to um in future type of construction how does it relate to dust collection system that connection I don't understand. So it becomes to instead of the elephants taking bits and pieces in areas, you'd actually have a true dust collection system. Um, and part of that is putting an apparatus, you know, either on the side of the building or up on the roof. And those go hand in hand. I think if I read it correctly, it's like you can't have one without a nice collection. >> What do they have to
173do with each other? >> Basically, if we touch the space, you got >> Yep. It's just like any ADA. If you do so much percentage of a work, you're now on the clock to follow. you no longer are grandfathered in. >> Is there anything else we would do differently with the space then? There's >> no but the where I took and Derek you know you chime in but where I took it as you could band-aid and that's I put this at the bottom of right here all these paragraphs I'll let you read on your own. This is their uh fix which is a little frustrating to Doc's point. It's like you I know you guys spent a lot of time discussing it. Um but those are the issues and that's their suggestions. Um but it's
174one of the for any future work you're going to have to go down at some point the superintendent and the board and are going to have to go down that path. And it's like, okay, do you just keep throwing money as a band-aid or do you just do it the right way? Because the cost is only going to go up 10% every year. So, um, it really comes down to, you know, these types of things. We talked about lunch times, you know, in looking at our common kitchen hang time. We actually talked with W about putting in a door. Um, and we're meeting with uh talking with Beth about possibly moving over early. Um, but in the end, you know, putting in Jamie's space, having the daycare have their own access instead of funneling through
175the main, it just makes perfect sense. Um, so we're working through some of those details. But again, um I think this will help you provide information when it comes to do we have an operating, do we have a bond, or do we do both? And this the rest of this document speaks to those items. It's a lot of information. Um, but again, uh, we have a lot of big decisions to make and unfortunately we're in the situation where again I'm using the concept of eBay with you. It just it's where we're at. And unfortunately, we we have to make some bigger decisions here based on the future and and how we want to handle it. Any questions on the budget update? All right. Uh, so going back. Do you want me to keep going? >>
176Yep. Keep going. >> Good. So, the next one is just the uh I met with uh school perceptions and so here's the timeline in addition to putting together the uh survey and what that looks like and the cost and so forth. And again, I think I've spoke to all those points understanding that because of the situation we're in, you know, my performance survey is very generic. It's good information, but it doesn't get to the depth that the community deserves in terms of going through a a referendum where their tax money is really going to be affected. So, my recommendation is to move forward with this proposal. Um and again I had some good conversations with them um with this proposal. >> Is there a survey questions at all? >> No, that's what you guys we
177develop. >> Yeah. >> So it really comes down to but they'll give you a template um because they've worked with so many districts. They'll they'll say, "Okay, we've worked with Clear Lake and they were in your situation where they were go bouncing between an operating and a bomb. Here's what they asked and then we tweak it from there." >> We're not recreating the wheel. So, I guess I would look uh for a motion to approve school perceptions and their quote to uh leave this survey. >> Yeah, I think all the ones that I saw at the convention they mentioned school perceptions. So, with that, I would make a motion to use perceptions. Is there a second that motion? I'll second it. >> Second by Chuck. Any further discussion hearing? None. All those in favor say
178I. >> I. I. >> We'll say no. Motion carried. Diagnostic technology. >> So I am really struggling with this. So I would like uh and I actually didn't even create a formal recommendation because I want direction from the board. So, where we're at with this is there's a pretty hefty price of 20 grand. Um, uh, based on where we're at, uh, as you know, Ryan McVey was our, uh, mechanic and then he did a variety of other things. Jerry uh is doing a great job, but we're also outsourcing some of the fixes to Blaine Brothers out of Baldwin and we're incorporating Mike uh auto body with oil changes and so on. the new day and age and I know all of you would know this but especially Chuck you know in terms of how everything
179has become so electronic and you basically can't open up a 350 engine and see what you now it's you're looking at plastic and gadgets and so on. So, this is a excuse me, a hefty I've had Frank, I've had Jerry, I've had Christie go through this. And again, I'm not asking for we don't have to make a decision if you're not comfortable. I'm more so asking the board where would we like to go with this because it is an investment. Um it's do we are we comfortable with the current setup which right now Jerry is you know 15 hours a week 20 hours a week yeah I think his contract is 20 he's a >> he's at that and he's given me a list so in this folder right now in every time he does
180a payroll uh we have a working document. I want to see what he's working on. And I guess I I want the board to consider and think about, do we want to make that investment or should we are we more comfortable continuing to outsource like to Blame Brothers and using Mike's Auto Body to change oil or do we get to the point and Jerry has a excuse me um he has a a full-time job so he's doing this. He comes here at 4:00 every day and works, you know, his his time. So really the the question is where would we like this to go? And if we want more internal fixing, we're going to have to probably invest into some type of >> If he doesn't have enough time to change oil in the bus,
181he doesn't have enough time to do major >> diagnostic work. >> He only did that because we were in the situation where Ryan left so abruptly. >> So that's not necessarily a >> It's not off the table. It's not up the day. It is right now just because I want to see it work because I want to get time to prepare. But what I'm asking the board is is like, do we want to get to the point where we invest into tools like this or should we hold off and use third party? >> If we're going up for oil changes, does do does MI have the ability to scan these Bluebird buses even? >> Uh, no. Blaine Brothers. Uh, so Mike's actually, you even talked to Jordan Log and they can't nobody can beat Mike's
182when it comes to u changing oil the prices. I I sat down with Jordan and I said, you know, what do you do with that? He's like, we can't even, you know, Ben Gross used to be there. I don't even know who they have now, but he's like, we can't even come close to what Mike's does and charges for oil changes. So, we just take that. >> Okay. >> But they don't have the ability to diagnose major bus fixes. >> Well, and I said this emailed me, it's often times not even a major fix. It's a minor thing. You have no idea what it is. >> Yeah. So then you pay Bla Brothers and they come out and they they charge you a trip charge. So you can replace it $10. >> Yeah. >> And
183it cost you $250. >> Clean and gas cap is what? >> So you know and my my initial thought was well yeah if we have to if we're going to be working on these things you can't you cannot fix a modern vehicle without this >> software. You just can't. Um but I get what you're saying. What you're asking is we don't have to do that. we can continue doing what we're doing. >> His schedule is pretty fully staying busy. He's got lots of stuff to do. Or does he want the ability to do these things because he's got time to do them or something? He there are other alternatives too. >> Well, he would Yes. he would like to move forward with this >> um because of the fact you just said or the statement
184you just said it's he he's embarrassed to even call Blind Brothers because he knows it's something little but he can't diagnose it because everything is mechan or electronic and so he would love this tool to say yeah I can do this Patrick I can fix this and it's not going to cost us but there's an upfront investment and all a sudden when I saw it was grand for the computer and the software. It's like, holy cow, that's >> but again, that's a long-term investment that that will be used for some a period of time and depending no matter who or what we have done or whether it's a guy that's only working 15 or 20 hours or we get someone more full-time that does, you know, did what the transportation director did was was take
185care of all the buses and do the scheduling or whatever it was. I would agree with that, Lisa, except I don't know, Chuck, and that's where I'm going to depend on you. Like, how obsolete is this? I mean, nowadays, you know, you buy a cell phone. >> Well, it should be upgradeable. It should like download the new software, >> just new software. >> I mean, isn't there a cheaper alternative like scan tool? >> There are not a whole piece. >> There are other alternatives. There are I've looked at them, too. There are other things that you can buy. I I my opinion was I'm not going to tell this guy what is the best tool for his job. Buses are probably different than man, right? You know, so he does and he's he's made that
186com like because he's worked on every type of diesel um engine, gas engine, etc. And he says buses are their own. Of course, they're just a different breed. Um, so again the question is, do we want to invest in this type of tool? There was a tool like this down there and Ryan didn't use it because at some point it became obsolete. I I mean I I know there are ones that you can or do upgrade that they just, you know, they just upgrade their software. Um I would maybe before you made a decision make sure that this is one of those that is going to be good for 15 20 years. >> I've asked that question and it was you know you get to the part where um number one we we have a
187newer fleet which is >> part of my decision making but then in the same regard as these these are spec this brand is specific to buses. >> Yeah. And then of course they just charge the crap out of you for the software usage because there's a a year one um and then there's a year I mean just one year it's 10 and then there's a three-year package u which is at 16. So you can guarantee that it's good for that time but then okay what's going to change? I >> the economics on a payback on that I don't know what that is but that's >> I would think if if you can continue to get updated software then then it's not so bad. >> I mean you're technology changes so quick nowadays. I I'd say
188you're talking at least a six or seven year payback on that piece, but but I don't know for sure because we don't have a huge fleet. If you running 30 buses, yeah, it's a no-brainer. >> Yeah. >> What's our diagnostic cost annually, right? Like if we were to send this out to have somebody >> We just started that. That's that's the problem is we we just started that because Ryan left us in September. So, we just started and I continue want to just budget and track it to see what is he working on and how many times. Well, again, it's not apples to oranges because we had an old fleet. We bought how many buses in the recent, you know, one year because we had to. So, it's I don't know. There's just so many
189balls in the air right now. It's it's hard for me to make a recommendation. >> Yeah. Brothers is charging $200 to come out. You can do that 50 times in a year. That's one a week >> for the price of the $10,000. >> And I don't exactly know what it cost, but I'm guessing it's that much. I don't know. >> And we could wait. And that's the thing is I wanted to wait just to to budget more and to observe what is our what is our behavior? I mean, how many times are we running? It makes perfect sense to incorporate Mike because nobody can beat the oil change >> in terms of the the bigger one like today. Randy had to use his prep and he had to run over to Blaine Brothers and pick
190up a bus. Um and it was a minor fix and Jerry just didn't have the tool to be able to recognize that. And is that worth a $20,000 investment? I don't know. I'd say we can collect the data and see if we can make that comparison, right? >> Is this the only um system that he's familiar with or because it's designed for buses primarily? >> I I had Frank. >> I had Frank look at it too and this is the the best bang for your buck and it's the most trusted package. Um, Frank viewed it from an IT standpoint and Jerry with his mechanic experience and he's like, "Yeah, this you can buy other, but they're just not as good." >> Yeah. The risk I would worry about is, you know, we're thankful that Jerry's
191here, but I don't think there was a hundred mechanics waiting in line when Ryan left to come fill that role. just from the standpoint that we don't it's not a full-time position even even with the the needs it's not a full-time position. So, do we hire somebody and don't give them the tools or do we hire somebody and let them have the tools they need or that that they need to be able to do these minor fixes? >> I I would my my dut is a little bit kind of what they were saying. um you go through the end of the year and then you say how many times did we have to call blame but or or somebody like that to run >> and that's an easy poll for >> yeah that's an easy
192poll and then you can extrapolate from that and that's how I would attack it like I said like we were saying that's going to take long time to >> do you know I mean just had one in brothers for a minor fix you know what the cost >> I I don't I mean I can run like I said I'm just looking for some direction you know and there hasn't been enough time that elapsed to understand how many times we used blame brothers um it was a lot during that chunk because we ran into just old buses that it was just a there's different ways to approach this uh you you've all get warranties and things like that you know there's Well, again, our fleet has basically we upgraded our fleet 50%. What do other school
193districts use this? >> They use that equipment. One of the emerging technologies for this type of thing for fleet management is overtheair type diagnostics. So, you pay a fee per month for a vehicle uh and it's monitored by someone else and you have access to dashboards on your computer systems in the district and in the maintenance offices. You can look at and see bus 4 needs oil change, this bus needs this. It's all done over the air with equipment that's installed in every bus and then you pay a sub subscription fee. Um it's not that expensive per month. usually$25 to $35 a month per vehicle. So with a fleet of 8 to 10 buses, um that's fairly economical and it keeps up with changing uh maintenance needs, changing technology over time. So we don't have
194to buy the the the device that in a few years may become obsolete even with with upgrades. We can buy a service. Everything is software as a service now. It's not necessarily using hardware. It's just putting a piece in the bus. Bus goes out to that main company and we have dashboards that are accessible all the time. Do >> you have an example? >> Uh there's a few different um a few different companies out there. We have to look at them and see if we can do like International Truck does it. Um Noa, I think is another one. Um there's quite a few that are jumping on this with software. >> Yeah, I can put a list together. >> John Deere trackers that John, >> you know, I call it yesterday. >> So I it's
195it kind of sounds like right now it's a wait and see. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Nope. That's what I needed. Um the last one here is just compensation. And as I alluded to, um, we have not been, so my two years here, we have not been in position to have compensation discussions in the spring when they typically should happen. We've had to wait and then do back pay and so forth. So what I would like to now that we are comfortable with where we are budget-wise, we know the bienial is in a guaranteed spot. It's already set. Um there is going to be change over. Um I would like to address compensation which is a whole another work session because the board to uh within my first year you know they looked at the current
196compensation model and said this doesn't make much sense and I would agree with that uh or it was my recommendation too. Uh, with that said, um, CPI is at 2.9 or 2 I don't know. >> Um, I just had an update. Uh, it's under three uh, with CPI 2.6. Yes, thank you. Um, so again, knowing we're going into referendum, if we can have some of this figured out going into the fall and again based on where everything is at. Um, and again, I've used my previous compensation process, which is getting all these comparables. I usually met with the president, uh, the vice president and treasurer, um, separately, um, to avoid a quorum. And basically we would go line for line and saying here's the compensation here where do we want to be do we want
197to be high low middle this person um I'll give you an example you know from a support staff standpoint uh we're we're lower and then that's why I recommended 4% increase this past November instead of 3%. So again, some of those I'm looking for what process you guys would like to see and then we need to start implementing that and working through that. >> I I do like the idea of the three um it's kind of a subcommittee. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I like that it allows for more, you know, more conversation type, you know, thing, but I'm not opposed that I and again that's where the rest of the board has to be comfortable saying, okay, these three, you know, are elected and again or April's are reorganization. Um, so keep that in mind.
198So then that compensation will start after that, which is May. Um, and again, if it happens within May, June, you know, prior to staff coming back, you know, um, I've always said that school budgets are completely backwards. You would never run business the way where you get your budget approved four months into your fiscal year. Um, but again, I want to know with the election, with where we were at budget-wise, how do we want to go about this process? Yeah, like I I like the three meeting with going over the comparables um starting after the reorganization. >> I think so. >> All right. >> That's do you think I don't know because I I'm kind of see it both sides, right? So, say a new new board member comes in and gets elected to a
199to a officer's chair. No idea what's going on and we're making compensation decisions immediately after or would it make more sense for the existing board to make those compensation decisions the election and onboarding to happen? They have a full year of onboard before the next compensation period. Well, I I you could could look at it two different a couple different ways. You would that person wouldn't necessarily need to be on that sub committee. >> That's true. Yeah, I guess the way you framed it was just >> Yeah, it wouldn't have to be those three in in this situation. It makes sense, but it might not. >> Um and obviously that they don't we there's no decision making power invested in those three. That's still the full board. >> It's just the committee to come up
200with a recommendation that will eventually be on that board. >> Yeah. >> And again, I think in my experiences whether Prairie Farm u Richmond was already that way in Prairie Farm, I got rid of committees just because I I hated not having the full board hear all the details. compensation gets a little bit different um because you're still going to see the the work and the data that they're looking at. It's just the opportunity to have some of those more detailed discussions um prior to the recommendation. I'm open to whatever you guys want. I just need some direction. >> Yeah. I don't know what you're doing. It's kind of Yeah. To me, being a new board member, I think it would be easier to not have that kind of be one of the first topics.
201And there's there's five other members who wouldn't be doing, >> right? >> Yeah. You can pick the individuals to be on that subject, >> but and and I do agree with you though in in that regard that that would be a tough thing to tackle. So the reorganization happens on roughly April or happens on April 24th. So then compensation would then discuss. Now again you're talking >> lots of work in terms of referendum discussions compensation and part of it does go hand in hand knowing 8% of our budget is compensation benefits. Okay. So, we'll wait till after the reorg and then we'll basically sit down with the president uh vice president and treasurer and do some subcommittee work. >> It may not just be >> Yeah, it may not be those. >> I would say
202I would say three individuals. >> All right, that's all I have. >> Okay, I have one communication board school board and staff. Thank you for the beautiful plan. Still me following migraine surgery. Recovery is going slow, but I see improvements every day. I hope to be on the other side of this and can't wait to be fully recovered and back enjoying things I love. Miss you all. That's Jodie. And uh Jody did talk she Jodie messaged Patrick and I and uh said things are coming along good. Um I've kind of talked to her every week a little bit about things and there are some nice little improvements. So hopefully she'll be able to be back soon. All right. Uh scheduled meetings are listed with our board calendar and we'll have that election on the 7th
203April 7th. The canvasing is on the 13th. And then there's uh information about the new school board member gathering schedule that is listed as well for everybody. >> The other thing that uh Miss Huder stopped by today and um if you could let me know May 16th if you plan to attend graduation. They're starting to work on corages orders. So again, previously um you know, board members uh basically cycle through and you hand out a number of diplomas, it's a great day. Um so look at your schedules, talk to your family. Um I will send out a reminder, but if you could let me know this week if you plan to attend graduation, please respond. All right, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn the meeting. >> Steve. Yes. >> Motion made by Steve. Do I
204have a second? >> I'll second. >> Second by Chuck. All those in >> favor. We are here. Thank you.