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School Board Meeting 2/24/25

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YouTube / Glenwood City School District
Date
2025-02-25
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St. Croix County, WI
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8,987 words · about 50 min
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2026-06-08

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001I think I think teachers probably do pretty good job I'm gon say we always I remember supply list always including wipes right well there's some wipes that are not as um Clorox or you know that we used to give the kids because they were friendlier safer for the kids hands and everything that like like your table down like your shair down ni they came out with peroxide so much easier more friendly and doesn't leave a resid anything else for here okay um so my update for you guys tonight um so you'll see you know one of my goals this year once I got settled was to start my parent communication um I when I started it I said I didn't know how often I was going to be able to get out so I started

002monthly I'm up to twice a month I think this month I might get three out so I'm increasing that as I'm getting in pattern in a routine of things so that's been good I will say once I started those um parent Communications going out it really started opening up that line of communication it it has really helped I feel like parents now not that they were scared before or anything but now there's just a lot of easier for them to pick up the phone and hey this is what's going on and that type of thing so I've been really pleased with how that's been going um I did shoot out another just a separate communication today um about parent drop off parent pickup just making sure that we're doing the right processes and procedures for

003that to keep those kiddos safe um I'm always looking for ways to improve that so just kind of reminding parents that if they're in that top Loop please remain in your cars um just because again kids are getting out getting on the other sides and that kind of thing so just trying to always kind of tighten that process up um so this month for the month of February um we did our Universal screener uh which is fastbridge our K through3 students obviously have been talking about um act 20 they didn't have to do anything for reading assessments um because of A's web but um our fourth and fifth graders had to take the a reading for that so then with all of that this was the month like I talked to you guys in November

004where we had our our meetings as far as um academic data and we went through and we talked about all of the student students per grade level so during my PLC meetings we sat with the grade level teams um and went through all of the data as far as how students were doing where they were in November as compared to where they are now what kind of increases decreases are we seeing what areas of concern to make sure that we're targeting all of those kids as far as title one academic support interventions and that kind of stuff with um Nicole and Lara so that's gone extremely well um we are wrapping up our rotation two for all of those services and we'll be begin a new rotation begin at trimester um three which is already

005the first week of March so um really been happy with how that process is kind of turning out one of the thing I was noticing in the elementary school um we I was noticing some of our substitute teachers were needing some supports for classroom management um whether it was new subs or Subs that were maybe younger or maybe hadn't been subbing in a few years so I did put together a document for behavior management guid L just to kind of help those subs um because I know it's difficult when they come into a new classroom they don't really know U maybe how to handle things properly um and then I'm constantly pick up the phone and call if you need me I will be there to help you know because it's it's different for those

006subs to be put in those situations and we want to make sure we're setting them up for success with that um PLC work within um we are finishing up finally our reading and language arts all the assessments are aligned for all the essential standards we have for reading language arts in gr C through five um so right now starting hopefully this week next week we'll be starting the same process for math so I've been very pleased with that I know that there's been um Rumblings we had the big schedule change at the elementary school um to line up our big schedule K12 to make common planning time for the elementary work and that has done wonders I've been able to accomplish a lot um for the common planning time where we're able to get all

007this um curriculum um work done so so that's been great we have re Across America celebrating Dr susa's birthday coming up first week of March that's a huge deal in the elementary as you guys know it's kind of a national holid kid so we have that coming up other than that I can't really I don't have anything else for you you guys have any questions for me I do want toline the work that she's doing with her PLC um that does not typically her experiences we're talking here TOS just the work she's doing I heard really awesome things about you're doing your communication I really like is there a way for me to get on that uh I'm sure it goes through the all the you know your parent emails we don't have elementary kids

008oh you don't have elementary kids I'm sorry yes okay yeah I'll get I'll put all the board in that that never yeah yeah yeah I think they're great I would like to yeah okay yeah absolutely just mr's here because he is going after another degree and uh he actually just emailed me respon it's good he needs he needs hours so him and I have met and I mentoring he's doing some stuff for me but he uh he answered your question so thank you Mr B uh the committee was formed and amended based on statute of 2011 so not forever but long time thank you Mr good research I couldn't find it can I it it's AI so doesn't matter all right all right now we'll move on to our business actions um item a is

009the approval of a retirement notice from Shel laugh um I always like to uh take these opportunities I don't as them to come but um chryst will click on the link if I can get my this one this one no this slide so Shelly has been with us for 31 and a half years um but again um just a great opportunity to outline the work that she has done for our district and you know we have two individuals that have given 30 plus years of their life to this District so we certainly will not uh fall short of um just saying thank you showing their gratitude and celebrating what they've done for our district and for so many years so um going to have official yes I would ask the board to officially approve the

010res retirement but um again Shell's not here tonight and I will sentence out the staff in the next couple days but so just want to say thank you to Shelly for everything she's done for the disc motion to approve that motion is made by Jody do I have a second second second by car all those in favor say I oppos say no motion is carried yeah she's done really good job and she just she she likes kids and she doesn't she does a good job so the next one we have is 31 years by Amy lens and again another veteran teacher that is a significant part of our elementary and has been a true mentor to so many that have gone through but I let Jamie and she's here to talk yeah so Amy um

011totally happy for her um it's going to be very exciting for her I'm bummed to be losing her she's obviously an amazing um teacher a lot of other teachers with in my building I have a younger staff look up to her look for guidance support that kind of stuff um so she's going to be hard to replace especially with all the knowledge that she has and I will say you know she has been so warm and welcoming to me you know um open to my new ideas my suggestions which you don't always see that a lot of times with veteran teachers you know sometimes they have I've been there done that I've seen it now you're coming in with these new ideas she has been nothing but phenomenal supportive with that which I think speaks

012to her knowledge experience in character with that so she's been like that ever since she came I mean she was moved around a number of times and always was very um willing to step in into whatever role she needed to do so yeah that's her nature she's all right we'll entertain a motion for the approval of Amy's reti so Move Motion was made by Chuck do I have a second second second by Carrie all those in favor say I I say no motion here next is the approval of the 2526 gcsd calendar all right so the calendar um started off with a variety of drafts we did narrow those down um obviously the bigger change was last year in terms of changing the school start times and times plld days Etc so the format is

013very similar um because next year the the placement not placement but where Christmas and holiday falls becomes a little bit more tricky so with that we threw out two options to the staff um one that basically ended in no u in May and the other one that went into January with a couple more breaks uh throughout the year in terms of a three-day weekend and it basically came down to 5050 um and so as administrative team we looked at some of the other factors that were in there um including placements of conferences um trying to incorporate some breaks um looking at all of that um I will still go on record to say I'm still waiting for the time where we can start mid August um just to really allow staff some time to breathe

014during the school year instead of just putting it all in in between September one and June 1 so with that said uh we are making the recommendation to move forward with the June it's only um the first week in June so it doesn't change a lot all the documentation and all the comparison and recommendation components are in those so um take any questions you may have is there a a requirement for you have to end no no not from State that's what yeah I think you get some from other areas but no um a lot have you know if you're building projects things like that you can start sooner but it just it still has not I again comes back to local control um especially in a smaller school where majority of our high school

015kids are here 7% in activities in the month of August it would be great to spread out some of those breaks but we just don't have that flexibility didn't you maybe it was you or somebody else said that the the legislator kind of in charge of that committee is D County uh no the Dells the Dells I thought count is up there too though but yeah so there's it's tourism and they their lobbying group is very po you know it' be very uh but I'm still holding out hope before I'm done that local districts will have that decision um or be able to make that decision okay so the recommendation is to the one that goes through the first week of correct any questions or need a little more time to look at [Music] it

016sorry you're okay good all right so I'll entertain a motion for the approval of the 2526 calendar motion is made that determin what make that M well I remember when you put off the agenda there was something funky on it like the dates on the end of one but I think yes Krista brought to my attention that's what I was looking for like remember she cleaned it up for me so yes thank you okay so second it motion is made by jod and second by Chuck to accept the calendar all those in favor say I I I oppos say no motion Carri approval of the GCS boardroom Furniture layout and supplies recommendation all right well um I think one of the things we talked about last year when we talked about facilities is utilizing our

017spaces to the best of our ability and if you kind of took look around uh some of this has already been done if you look at the cabinets uh cabinets actually have been moved uh to take up less space um one of the things that we don't have a lot of in this District um is professional running spaces whether it's Community Education future Community Education spaces or even the ability for staff to gather um these tables weigh about would you say Krist 50 pound not you can't move them um these chairs are way too big um this space just it's basically utilized for maybe or it is a board meeting and then maybe a couple other meetings and we just want to be able to use it as a multi-functional space we wanted to not

018mess with the um the windows but also have more of an enhanced technology experience uh which we're looking at two screens we can get away now with TVs that are very I would say financially responsive um and efficient and so um looking at the next piece of that is tables and chairs um these are Christa I think said you know they were here well before her um but making this a multi-functional space whether it's you know even um small committee work um or uh different groups that can come in here if you look at the tables that were selected uh you can easily move them uh when we have meetings and I don't anticipate a lot but when we have meetings out in the comments we can move them out they fold up um you

019can use the space for CPR um you can use the space for just really it's multi-purpose is the theme and so um I proposing that uh we look at and Christa did a great job of we we explored difference um between Ryan Christa Frank and myself different layouts different ways to set this up so people that visit the meeeting don't have to walk behind the board can still sit in a um confidential way because everything is on the screens we could still have a gallery um we can still use this space for um different professional um groups that need it that type of thing so um we wanted an answer to with some student pictures things like that so um I think what we settled on was the uh the L would be a recommendation

020uh in the table set up now you could it's not like you're stuck with that because the tables can be used for multifunctions I would use uh fund 80 fund balance money because it's more of a community space and jod has already painted um we took down the volts uh we took down the uh some of the obsolete uh technology that was in here um that really didn't serve any purpose and so again looking at just a spruce up of it but again offering a more conventional and multi-purpose use any questions um you know the uh the the quote for a professional was like a and that was just more technology um but we feel like we have utilized the small conference room to use that on a daily basis um there's just different technology

021pieces where we don't have to be connected through wires and different computer setup you know and everything goes remotely to the screens and it's casted and so forth so um again just another step up in terms of the experience when you have a meeting so we are are we approving the purchase of all of this yes yep okay so if you look at um go back if you look at uh the last one gotcha I put it all out there what are you g to do with this um we actually have a uh a space where we're going to have third party groups um it's in the elementary library it's in the back uh used to be a title room and using that for more of outside mental health Etc um it's kind of isolated

022in the back but um that was my first thought um we'll find some use for it but you know nowadays again I think when we used our borom all the time for CPR we used it for just these to these tables f up you can open the space up you can just you can use it for whatever if you don't have a place to put this just put the storage room forget about it for 15 we won't do that we won't do that we put too much work into but yes we'll uh I think that's one of the first ideas but I haven't thrown out there to sta yet does anybody have any objections or would anybody willing to make I'll make the [Music] motion second second any further discussion hearing none all fav say

023I oppos say no motion next is the approval of skywards NS soe module an online enrollment so this was on my uh to-do list um strategically but um one of the admin assistants brought it up and um ended up getting the close I'm L over there on the video so this is uh we already have Skyward as you know and this is an online module that we can add on but just allows for online involment we need to move into when it comes to paper pencil versus online tools um one of the things that Deb really brings is we use you know probably right now with Skyward I would say we probably use 30 to 40% of what it's capable of and Skyward is not cheap and even though we pay for this these are

024just components that when we do reports it just feeds into one another and so financially we're headed that way but also when it comes to these types of things it's more streamlined it goes right into the system you don't have necessarily all the manual um input that is done so it's a small price um but something that puts us again to make more of a Technology based or convenience in terms of this process we already do some enrollment forms online Skyward yeah so this is if you're a new student okay because when you're a new student there's one of the things that we were not doing um we by law cannot keep anyone's Social Security or excuse me birth certificate and that's fine but we have checking and so there's just different things that we

025want to streamline and make sure that we do our due diligence and have the appropriate data especially if it's a new student but yes we do the online enrollment on basis any other questions on that does this include so does Skyward offer classroom or I'm sorry not classroom class kit that for them to enroll in their classes yes they do okay yes they do that's another add on piece it's a little bit harder Carri uh for scheduling in a prairie farm clate city is very difficult using a system like this in a larger school it's a lot easier just because of you don't have as much shared staff sure um but it's definitely something again as we move our tool box into that 21st century in terms of let's uiz some of these things even

026our HR department were just not everything was hand down or it was there should be easy accessible spreadsheets that we could just print out with state reports we we're just not there so yes Skyward does have that it just is difficult for smaller okay yes I'll make a motion motion is made by I I apologize I was busy looking where all the numbers all right is there a second a second second by Jody any further discussion hearing none all those in favor say I I oppose say no motion car F the approval of gcsd class 2025 scholarships um so again um at the beginning in the work session I showed you kind of our overall spreadsheet of where our investments are in terms of scholarships uh these scholarships are offered based on the board um

027and from the district as a whole so setting amounts I know last year I just took these amounts and was kind of very just went with the previous years so last I would say last year and this year the amounts are the same um if anybody wants to make a change we certainly can there's no i' have no rationale as why those numbers are there I need to change them I just went with what was so I have no previous discussions when it comes to that or how you guys came to those numbers well the wrestle me is um taken into account as to the interest G of course and then it's what is it 25% 25% of class or remember number I don't I don't I know there's a formula there's a formula so

028you don't touch principle well we yeah we don't touch that but um the amount of scholarships that we gave out um I do know that we because we we did get our on a documentation that again says you can't touch the principal um like I said when we moved all these things I just I I don't want to upset the apple carts and just I think we can certainly next year run these numbers especially when we go through the topper partnership and so forth you know here's where we're at here's and I can give you a true um representation financially um because we just started it's just like just go with last year's number for my recommendation and then um understand that um the application process starts next week yeah the the other ones are

029other than the Russell Meer the Russell Meer basically has has a situation where the dollar amount was dependent on the interest earn and the certain number of students that um work could qualify so there is a there's a there's a variant on WE we've given our 1200 give 1500 give it th000 they give it all $700 so yeah it depends on it depends if it's the top 25% you've got it might be 20 kids it might be 10id 10 kids yeah so okay there is there is a a system to the Russell my the other ones that's written down oh yeah it's on a scrap piece of paper no you file cabinets no that's no she doesn't because we asked last year and that's why I again just roll with the number that's there but

030we'll do some searching I didn't even know that there was that we knew that we couldn't touch principal because that was in the initial document but I did not know it was based on top 25 number in the class that type of thing there there's there's should be something hopefully there is something about the russle do you want me to so March 1st is when applications start do you want me to try and track that down and then change that amount or do you want to go with just this formula 12,000 because Ron I asked Ron how these decide okay yeah so I what there is there's 12 so there last year there was 12 of 1,000 let me make sure that we have make sure that we have accumulated 12,000 interest in order to

031disseminate that out yeah we can't we can't go in a negative okay well if you guys want to just approve it and then I will bring it I'll update you once Deb and I can run those numbers and then I'll share it with you and then I'll bring it back to the board next month if we have to yeah we can definitely go with this to start everybody's okay with that you I'm missing it for some didn't you have it in here what the balances out of that first yeah yeah but that was uh I don't know how much principle it started oh say that yeah so it's in the in the local government investment um at the in the work session so right now well there's two parts to it there's the initial and

032then there was and then there was a the distribution so there's 70,000 in the distribution and then there's 198,000 in the scholarship itself and it's at a 4.39 so I don't know if that 70,000 is the interest I'll have to look back and see no it's I don't believe so what um there was so I think the principal for Russell Meer was supposed to be like 168,000 or something some that I think that's somewhere yeah I think the principal's basically in there there was a certain amount of money beyond that since we couldn't touch the principal he took that above money and then there's another that was invested into its own entity and then that's where we're making supposed to be making up the interest for the however we don't what also complicates this is

033because this is a fouryear like you get it for four years if you go to a CO secondary or is it just a one time one one it's a one time thing so we paid I know we've gotten some of those requests because the second semester was just done yes so is there a policy that states when they have to they have to go into the second they have to they have to be applied for their second semester in order to rece their scholarship they're they're all like that I believe I'll do some homework they have to no that's good I learned lot cor okay um so I'll entertain a motion for the classic 2025 scholarship as presented motion by car second by Joy all right all those in favor say I I opposed say

034no motion carod next is the approval of a past compensation process procedure deficiency Matrix summary okay um I apologize um I had a wa too many games last week including Saturday so um I did do a recommendation um that was added before you guys got here so if you want to go ahead and click on that last attachment it's the it's not a recommendation it's the factual summary um as you know I'm not making a recommendation um but I wanted to outline the facts so I'm going to go by through this one by one um but I'm a I'm a backwards design guy so I want you to bring your attention to the bottom at the end I'm going to ask you to make a decision based on four pieces to this puzzle the first

035decision is the staff uh that you have tasked Debon I that broke statute 11822 and that is the overall summary picture that looks like this the second one is the students and I kept those names out um because they're student names um I did tell as you know everyone I wanted to do this in open session for a vary of reasons um the third one is uh the conversation of the spring 2020 Co back pay request um when this was brought to my attention I looked back on board docs couldn't find anything and so that's how it became uh to your level and so uh need the board to make a decision on that the fourth one is um I sent out this summary and this summary got to other uh veteran staff members um

036because it was being sent from others and uh I received some questions to that were um questioning if these individuals got or to move then some of the other veteran staff should be able to move and so um again I'm not making a recommendation but wanted to make sure it was there um this process has not been easy um even so to the point where just putting this folder together with the past compensation um because there's no documentation and that's what really and but I want to preface it by saying we do have a documentation to give you this factual Su but to get to this point was just ridiculous like the searches and we ended up getting a variety of documents from from Matthew um we found some in boxes um it was just

037all over the place and so again you are tasked tonight um we've been talking about this for four months now and um looking for kind of a put a completion to this in terms of what documentation you wanted what numbers you wanted um and then I summarized just some of the things that were taken into account and how we got here which is B Point um so basically I'll open it up to questions because that probably the the main Crux of this but I wanted to owe on to you that I need decisions and votes on those final four pieces when it's said and done so the you mentioned the fourth board decision um regarding vetan staff members currently employed or previously employed currently employed okay and if you want me to go back and

038try to figure out numbers for those individuals um we can um you tasked us at the start to address individuals where a law or statute was broken um I can tell you we could go down 50 rabbit holes Y and so how to narrow that down and so again um that's kind of how we got to this point and I I put in there if you said if you look at um the last bullet point you know all the previous documentation that I wrote and this has been on the agenda as you know and so I put those letters in there too so yeah the fourth point is if you want me to uh Deb and I to go in and start detailing um you know if they were misplaced those conversations they're a little

039more difficult uh because statute wasn't broken and and a lot of it is the facts that I gave you with those others those personnel file here's where they said they were based on contract some of this is you know interpretation like where should they be I have no idea um I think Deb said it best at one point where we could meet on this three times and probably come up with three different answers and it just it's it's hard because devb and I weren't here we were not part of this process we're going back on documents that we don't I mean they seem to be accurate um one of the salary schedules was in a document of Rons um in know electronic document the schedule doesn't really exist so it just it's it's really hard

040to pinpoint and then when you have a salary schedule or comp model that there's no consistency and people were placed wherever um I will say did people lose out oh yeah they did and I you know the same conversation we've been having for months is like where where do you start where do you stop and that's the part where you know you guys get to make the big bucks make those decisions so I will entertain any question and do my best to answer it but I think the overall spreadsheet you can see the we're talking about pretty large amounts for some individuals we tried to incorporate FICA um I tried to lay it out the best that we can when they were hired when they you know again I don't know what was said to

041them I don't know how the conversations were were taken during that time time um you can see the first bullet points are directly from Bob Butler I did run those past Trevor our lawyer just to verify you know again the statute was broken based on that um so again you guys tell me if you need more information if you want to make a decision um it's truly open it up to you I think for myself and on having talked with some individual um we've all come to a consensus with the statute breaking but that that needs to definitely happen so for myself I have no problem with decision one or decision two I don't feel comfortable talk uh with decision three and then as far as decision four without having dialogue with all we've got

042three people that aren't here you know to to get that to get everybody's input but do know that everybody um consensus was fine with the statute issue um as far as Decision 4 um I think I would need more data for that um and that one's hard because I'm be you know the conversations are this is where I was this is where I should have been and it was like okay how I I just don't don't because the models aren't concrete that's a that's a hard one for me to even expl and I and I get that and and we can without having hard data it's hard to make a it's truly hard to make that decision because like it could be uh a thought a feeling uh this is what I think I don't

043know for certain cuz you guys would have to put parameters on on it like if they started here because I actually just got this question um over the weekend and they said um so do retirees get this and I said no do people that left the district get you know I mean again where where do you start and where do you stop that's the parameters I would need so like with number four when I say veteran well what does veteran mean is it 20 years people I I I don't you know those are some of the things that I just need direction on um to even get that data because we're cross referencing solid factual data in terms of what's in your personnel file what was on your contract and what's in Skyward not what

044were some of the conversations or where I should have been I did have a teacher that came to me a month ago and said hey when I was HED 7 years ago I should have been placed here instead of here and I said well that that is pretty random in terms of a superintendent or an HR department decides that and if you agree to it sign contct you signed a contract and and for the number four same thing there was no statute you agreed to it now I would also point out if they were questioned on it they will probably lie to like the other ones so I just I can't I'm trying to rely on the facts and and that's the part where if if if you want more data on the Flor I

045need parameters of what that is my own personal thought and this it's not me I didn't I'm not the one that lost out but you have other things to work on P I mean we've got to move forward I do agree with one and two it's hard for me to say yeah let's utilize our superintendent's resources to go back 20 years we have other things you can be working unfortunately I well I I I I'd like to put it stamp in this and get this done yeah um I can I can empathize with a teacher who maybe or a staff member think feels like they were mistreated in this regard but um and in a lot of ways there's a signed contract you know what I mean it's there's a signed contract and I would

046say that was one of the um between Bob Butler which I think you guys have worked with Bob and Trevor said the same thing um from a legal standpoint and I said well make sure that I'm I'm a you know understanding this if a statute was broken is there still a signed contract and does that hold the same Merit as the others sure and they're like well yes and no you broke a statute and if you have the contract that's the proof If you go back on you know I should have been here and I wasn't placed and they signed it it's not the CU I said is that the same thing and he said no yeah so again was there wrongs yep absolutely and and can we make all the wrongs right that's when

047there's nothing to go by other than I feel like I should have been here I don't think that you can go on that I I especially if you're in the regard it the example you gave about a first year teacher that they should have been in a different spot yeah well I'll do this because I normally would not do this but out of uh respect because I'm I certainly made mistakes and Matthew shoes um did some things and he's given some documentation so I'm just going to give him the floor very briefly here and let him talk about these past pieces so you hear it from him who um first talked to me about this so Matthew if you just want to make a couple comments about those other this is not a 10-minute thing

048this is just try and help summarize your my discussion with you last Friday okay well so this thing that you all can see I know the contract I mean I know the salary schedules pretty well I've I just know them for the most part but yet I think people were majority got what everyone thought but there were some people that may have gotten either less or more because I do know that there's a lot less I mean for obviously I'm here but so what happened is is after when when I was looking at this I actually put it together like I actually sat down and said what cell are you what cell are these people in I care about these people I need you to understand this I care about that woman right there who

049works really hard and got screwed um but what I did is I sat down and I looked at all right I looked at all the salary schedules and it started with 2019 2020 we were on all of us I I don't know how you want to call it there was a veteran teachers at the time back in 2017 18 when we started the new model teacher it was only completed from the step one to step 12 it really wasn't completed from the the the model teacher spot nobody was placed in there we had these transition cells where this was our salary and there was a raise and we and he made these eight cells so we were put into these eight cells the following Year everybody in 1 through 12 moved a step down Us

050in the cells we got a percent Ray on it but we did not move so people were sitting there the following year they finished the model teacher for steps 133 through 18 but then there was an 18 plus added which was like the top of the cell and what happened is during that year is I have to think that through I got to go back have to there's a lot stuff in um we had before if we had a master's our masters is included in our contract what happened is is our master's was taken out and Johnson like basically took the money out of this out of the out of our salary I want to say our wages and then put it and then we were placed on the the new scale well when he

051took it out people's actual salary from the year before when you looked at it on you know our contract went down that's where the statue was was um broken which we didn't know that I mean it you know there was this $2,000 stien okay so what happened is Patrick is fixing that stien but when we started doing the model model teacher presentations um we had all these people and transition cells depending on when our rotation was which had actually been rearranged prior years because all of a sudden staff left and we're like oh the principal can't do all of these in one year so our rotation every three years it was all changed up and so what happened is we had some people on 2020 the spring of 2020 which was Co some people presented

052that was the first year you could present you cannot present on the model teacher for two years when it was first developed because they hadn't finished the scale so we waited to even move like a sell down for experience so in 2020 some people were allowed to present I was not so the ones that were allowed to present were able to move down the schedule the next year while I and Amy and many others had to sit in our cell we we were not at the top of the salary the only one at the top of the salary that's still in this district is Shelly laughing when Act 10 came down she was at the well I say up here but if you ever looked at the old salary schedule she was in the bottom

053corner because that's how they all work she had to get to the bottom corner Amy and I use us as an example never reached there we were one step away one lane over cuz you had you remember the credits there um do you remember that so what happened is whoever did the presentation in 2020 got to move down even if they were here less years than some of us that had to wait one year which was me or two years which was her what happened the following year and I did not know this until I investigated more as we were going through this the following year I did the presentation so I only had one step to go so I was able to move she was still stuck and I started before him and she

054started before me we had the same amount of years in because I taught a year ahead of her but she started here before me so I made more money than her one year until she did her presentation the third year and went down now here's where that wasn't even a concern at this moment until this was put together and this is Dev and them and they did a wonderful job they fixed the error of getting everybody paid but what they did is they started moving all of these people a step after the correction was made well I investigated that so so I can use an example I probably shouldn't say any names should I accept us well not that one this so this is my own so so this is um a staffer that had

055um a salary smaller I mean their salary is smaller than ours so when the correction was made in 2019 n in 201920 the correction was made to put them on M5 and then they started moving through the schedule so M5 the next year was M6 which was 2021 and and then M6 plus so they ended up reaching the top now that's where they're at okay um another one I'll use is someone else so when the correction was made they were on Master's 2 level then they moved to three four five and six through the correction what happened is is when I looked at Amy and I and one other staffer and I think there's another one involved too but she um not doesn't work on my end is we went through our schedule and in

056that first year we were on m6 and then we stayed on M6 the next year because we had not presented and then the following year two of us presented so we went to M6 plus so we hadn't been to the top a year later Amy finally reaches the top so as this correct is being made we're saying shouldn't we who are involved in this same transition skills stuff moving through the salary should we be adjusted as well to have that movement to make it clear it's hard to explain unless I point it all out to you so M6 from one year going into the next year not the same amount though no well and neither are these as they go from M2 to three increases change every year even the uh yeah you gain an

057experience year and and whatnot even those don't match up so we if you look at all of these they're in different formats and M1 to M2 to because there's one that says M6 then the next year it's M6 plus well that's one so there's no Rhyme or Reason that I can de I can figure out that's he just added that extra step and but see that's that's the part where that's the only Matthew met with me and I just said look for me it's it's cut and dry with what the board wanted what broke the law and what didn't I I can't sit here and go back and say well this is what they meant because putting just this book together which you can see all these are different these are the numbers but they're

058in different formats they have different meanings the M1 um versus the m6 it wasn't completed it just it's hard to put together okay just so I'm clear there is no documentation in a personnel file for anybody on this list or otherwise for why they were ass there is and see that that would have made this easier if someone was again if you read Bob Butler summary there you know they have to be non-renewed they have to have some type of agreement between the two teachers because I heard that one of these teachers on here was disciplined yet their personel didn't have there's nothing in there so what about like all the slos and all those things those things that you've got to show where you've made progress as a teacher there's the rubric for for

059talking do you have all that as that's not not necessarily used for that's not used for model teacher no okay it's the current compensation is not evaluated so we all did the present so to go back we're looking at I was very invested in this because I knew what had happened I didn't really know the whole story of some people but I care about these people so for an I didn't really realized the whole story I knew there were some things that did not go right with her um the correction is one step for two of us and it's two years for her so it's really not a big significant amount compared to what you see in front threshold are you using okay so I'm using the threshold as this other person I talked about

060I know but I'm talking years of experience so that's what I'm asking the board is saying so where does this end is it 10 years I've been here 20 years has it been here you say this veteran group that's the part where I don't like where where are you pulling these people from because my list includes the staff that broke a state statute your list is from what my list is from the data that I can clearly show like Lisa said I need data I can at least what my question is you're saying this group of you three why is it just your group of three is there more is it a certain year is it because we are we were here amongst the same amount of time as a few of these people on

061here and we were also the ones placed in the these transition cells before the statute was broken so when I go back to that one staffer that I said moved with the correction they moved from M5 to M6 to M6 Plus prior to that correction they were placed in M5 or M4 M4 and then M something so they were sitting in a Cell as long as we were sitting in a Cell but with the correction now they're moving and we still sit I mean OB we still sit where we sat okay if you go back to the past that's that's the de because we were in these transition cells I can't go to somebody I can't go back to somebody that was placed on the new model teacher that was the first 12 steps what

062was was a statute broken no but the correction allows allows these movements now that were not there to occur to fix it which shows that we're getting is anybody else in those transition cells no those are the only people is those four that were in those original transition cells what do you why why do you believe they were there why do you believe there was no movement what is your analogy behind it the the reason there was no movement is you had to do your model teacher presentation and I went to Johnson many times and said this is not fair why are these people presenting we had people presenting that weren't in the transition cells they happened to got they happen to be on the 12th step that were able to present before teachers that

063had been here years prior to the district okay so then here's what I can recall is that there were um an application per se I to I me I don't know if I'm going to have the right words butre applied for applied for your model teacher and and then there were there was these rubrics and you had to you had to fill them out you had to prove what you you know you did this and how you did this and so on and so forth so there was all that kind of documentation so our understanding was is that you guys had to go through this process in order to have your opportunity to do your presentation went through their supervisors so both the principle and the superintendent had to approve that right correct but they

064put us on certain rotations and you couldn't start that rotation until it was your time you could not start it early put certain people on rotations before certain people so so yeah so you had your your building administrator and you had the superintendent at that because you had to do this with your building administrator correct they were part of your process correct yeah okay and if they felt you weren't ready for model teacher they could postpone you well yeah but we were that never we were not that that was I'm not saying that you were but I'm just like trying to remember the pieces of well they could have yes there was maybe some people that weren't quite ready for model teacher and it was post just a clarifying question did you get a raise

065that year um which year the years you're talking about everyone got a ra everyone got well it depends on how you look at it as a race one did you so if you know how an all comp system works everybody got a percentage comp is in addition there was no we none of us were frozen we were frozen in cells where we could not move for experience because that's what sells that's what we're doing now you gain a year you gain a you go down or up or yes I mean that's what we're that's what our current model is so we were not moving to a new Step you didn't move a step but you got a raise yes because there was new money put in each cell okay okay yes so because you didn't

066present you weren't able to we weren't able to move I use Shelly Laughin as an example Shelly presented but she could have presented in any of those three years because she was already at the top of the scale it meant nothing for her because she happened to be in the right spot when Act 10 came down and we were stuck in those salary schedules the four people you're talking about is it pre like it it's you two and two others yes and and it's based on when you were hired it was based on being in those transition cells we saw these transition cells that we couldn't make heads or taals and then when we came out of them to go on to the master steps so M1 2 3 4 5 6 6 plus that's

067I'm not benefiting much from it I'm just saying try to I'm just trying to do it right for everybody I mean she should not have been making less than me one year because she couldn't present early we I I'm going to repeat that one more time I told Johnson when we could start presenting in 2020 we had all been the ones that were eligible to present had all been hired before Act 10 we and we had not moved and it's like we should all be able to present to now start moving through the salary schedule we had been frozen in our positions for a there were some movements in there for everybody there was some there's a couple steps in between but we we hadn't moved for two or three years we were there was

068new money added in the cell but we weren't able to go down I was never I was what year did you what year did you uh have your your model mine was 20 the spring of so the year of 20221 okay because I I was like I and you were there you and um you and John were there and um had before that because I was like I know we started before you had some in June of Co I know they had to do them after the school year I think because of Co so I thought we had done them a couple years before had so I understand what you're saying I think I it it's Mak you're I have paperwork it's easy to explain better if I could kind of maybe bring it back

069on this side little bit um the way it sounds is they were there's certain number of members of staff that were eligible to present for the model teacher thing and however it was set up for whatever reason they did not get that opportunity and thus didn't move a step and that model teacher thing was a working progress all the time so I guess where I'm coming from is um staff might have a a reason why they don't didn't get to present um if somebody was passed up I think some of it might have been um come down from their admin um who maybe thought they weren't ready perhaps uh that I don't know I guess what I'm saying is I don't know and honestly I don't think the staff would know for certain um we

070can try and and write a lot of wrongs that were done in this district and we are trying to write a lot of wrongs um I don't know if this is a a wrong that we can write because we just don't have um a whole story about it and that's that's kind of where I stand no laws were broken raises were given um that that they might not have been what staff felt that they were entitled to and maybe they got I I'm trying to use good language that maybe they some of them got HED you know I I don't know um but I I I'm tempted to stick with our original guidelines for this of of knowing um which laws or statutes were broken um um like I said I'm fine with one fine

071with two three I'd like all board involvement with that a little bit just us but but I do know whether they stand on that or and as for would have to be something that is so blatantly black and white that would show me in I I agree and I think there's too much gray area here from our perspective um and I can fully understand that do you what is not um thank you for caring about your co-workers and and speaking up for them um I I just don't I don't think we can write every wrong that it was done and and we don't even know what they all are again there has it has to be there there might there might have been a reason and a very we just don't that's where I stand

072AG yes no you said it very eloquently you don't think he number I I agree um number one full full agreement number two full agreement number three um can we just make a decision where for can we just make a decision on number three that decision was already in my opinion on number that decision was already made by by a board at that time I I don't think it's my place to say they were wrong and I know some of you were part of that okay Jo what do you think on three yeah I think we've kind of talked about that one a lot over the past several months um and I also agree that I I can't say for certain because I wasn't there but I assume it was brought to the attention of

073the board Andy decided so so you're both daating the original board I know you've stated that in the board decision well I my my point was always like I know it's not in the board docs that has been looked for and the the the way it was explained was no we don't we didn't need to take an action now knowing what we know now we would we would do that we would make an official and we'd have a documentation of that um but I know that that conversation happened and I and I know that the board at that time decided not to pay for those coaching positions um but I've always been very willing to just be like well do we want to do something else um I I I I agree I would say

074no the decision was made six years ago or five years ago maybe a policy moving forward if that were to ever happen again might be appropriate I don't know for if we would pay out if their season was ended ear or can if you look back I know you said other districts did pay out yeah like it I mean every district and it was C and there was no precent there was nobody would so people were going and and there was other pieces um which I believe happened here too they were you know people were paid out here they still got their salaries they still got this what they had to Legal no so every District approached it in a different manner so it's hard to say it was this is the right way this

075is the wrong way so what I need from you is again you can there's four decisions within this agenda item and basically the notes will dictate what you decide um either yay or nay or table um that's the options um and yes to Chuck's point you have a quum and again I expected everybody to be here we obviously the circumstances come up and this doesn't require any like a budget piece where you need two3 so you have the ability to do and decide can we just um should we just answer them one time yeah I can yes yes okay so okay so let um I'll motion um for the board decision number one in representation of the past compensation process and this is based on that the table in the yellow and brown for the

076staff who were underpaid at some points for the staff yes this is for the staff with the statute 18.22 if you look at the uh documents um the totals are in the right hand column and again we're subject to change a little bit based ons so and then then some of these hourly ones are a few columns over if I'm reading this correctly so I I added them up and I have a total I don't understand that this could potentially change of roughly $145,800 yes and it could change because we just used the 6.9 for wrs like just we use those percentages um but yes if you look at the Lost wage column it's based on us trying to figure out where was based on these documents so is everybody okay with that that the

077totals in the right hand column yeah some of these are kind of big numbers I mean they are are big numbers well we talked about the the insurance uh claim money coming back from the lawsuit yep 126,000 so I did add that picture in there too um that to cover this or the majority it'll cover the majority of it um and that's allowable right yes okay and then the statement um there's a repayment agreement so if any of these individuals are repaid this is a legal document that Sayes they cannot come back for anything more checks and balances standard process and procedure a motion to approve question Decision One decision one sorry okay so there's a motion on the table by Chuck do I have a second to that second second by carry again any

078further questions discussions or clarifications he all those in favor say I I iOS say no motion Carri decision number two with reference to students that's on the table as well yeah that is on the table motion to say yes question all right do I have a second to that second second by jod again any further questions concerns or clarifications um just kind of on all of these when will this money go back to them if if we're approving a back payment next next pade yeah because we received the restitution part of the restitution fund so um as long as Deb and I can go through it and get it it will be the next one or two payrolls sure thank you anything else hearing none all those in favor say I I I say no

079item decision number three in reference to Spring of 2020 back day request how do you I will make a motion to to deny that request that my question was how do we pra that yeah yeah so typically everything you started with approval and so you would say no to approval so you typically and that's how stated in the agenda approval to just so instead of VO you would vote no okay gotcha so I will then make a motion on board decision number three for approval and you are saying no right now I know so we got Carri Carrie for a first and Chuck for a second or Chuck's the first all right so Chuck is making a motion to approve number decision number three who's seconding I didn't get it through a second does a

080second that's confusing to me does it does it signify approval or dis approval yes we're going to answer the question or do that just simply put it on the table for us to vote Yes you yes okay that's what that's what I I will second okay so now the question is do we approve it approve it okay if you agree with it you say yes if you disagree with it you say no that's where I wasn't quite sure okay thank you those that approve the motion say I those that oppose say n n that was expertly done for we'll do it by the next time all right for decision number for since you allowed me to talk before I have one thing else to say to four which could explain something if you're allow me

081to have that moment I think we're done with it okay I just wanted to say that one person yeah I I will uh make a a motion to approve for decision number four do I have a second to that motion a second motion is so now that it's on the table um now we can let's let's talk about it a little bit here um I'm not saying that I never want to revisit any of this again um I'm what I would say would be that I want just evidence that a law or statute was broken again if that ever comes up um or I documentation that proves without question that a wrong was needing to be corrected um if that makes sense I what I'm saying is is I'm not I would like to be

082done with this and and move forward but if something ever does come up again I'm not saying no but does that make sense what I'm saying I get what you're saying I'm not shutting the door forever but I I think it's like the door is shut but it's not locked you're saying if there was statute or law broken you want to revisit it because every time we think we're done with this Patrick something else pops up and and I just want to make that clear that I I don't believe with what we have right now it's an yeah your correct I yes it makes sense I just wanted to to just throw that out as a general statement that I don't I don't want to ever like say we're not dealing with this anymore but

083it would it would need to be something that was pretty concrete yeah there thing yeah that we can point to and say you know this so is there any way that it needs to be specifically written we're we're we're putting it on the thing but yeah I just put it as um other just because it was a I wanted to make you aware of it um you could just say with other because again this document is right there and so if you do the the same thing it's approval is the main category so you do the same process that you just did with item three can can I ask a question on that because we don't have anything concrete we don't have names we don't have wages attached to years and all of that is

084there really any decision to be made because we're we're not no I mean with Chuck's that's a good point with Chuck's that there was is still open um yeah I guess if you look at it that way right um I guess for me it's it was more of a guidance piece because I couldn't I didn't expect you to make a decision yeah but you would have to direct me to say we want more data and what you're saying from what I'm hearing is don't go and search for it because we've had so many rabbit holes that we could have gone down um we're not going to write all the wrongs but if you do come across a a statute that was broken or the law was broken as you do your normal cleanup that we

085want to revisit it so to your point yes corre that's you say what I wanted to yeah that's no you summarize for so basically what we're saying is or the decision that we're making is Patrick we want you to be done focusing on this and no not go digging for any more of these but if these are brought to you or then RIS then that case yeah we need we need a a solid that makes sense piece of information not need so does anybody want who would like to amend their motion well it was Che yeah so yeah is the motion I don't know how well there's been a first and a second on the table so you you have to now amend your motion do you amend it to say he doesn't he doesn't

086do anym because if there wasn't a second then it would be would move for she is correct yeah there's there's a there's there's a second on the table and if there wasn't then we could just it would die the D but because there is a second on the table there's been discussion there be an amendment to the motion and then on motion right go for it want to write it down I don't I you know what I am your motion yeah I okay my motion so there's Amendment to the motion do you want to second that motion J Second Amendment mtion secondly Amendment motion and then like you said it dies and then I will and so there the first and the second on the amendment again any further discussion or clarifications so are we

087approving the Amendments the amendment is to take take away their motion okay okay all those in favor say I so we took away the initial motion okay do you want a motion to table that no okay okay after Carrie said her statement she is correct we don't I it was more [Music] discussion all right think we got it directions I have no communication um next scheduled meeting any additional additional um meetings in there any no Gatherings other than what's posted no as as of right now I do anticipate some decisions at the judicial level but this point right okay all right next I'll entertain a motion to adour sotion is say I we are J and it's chunks of girl cheese in the soup it isn't anything Seafood related been sitting on I waited till

088I hit the hour mark because I didn't know if I wanted is I no longer have a waterfall in my room I no longer have a waterfall you're good to go they fixed it at I promise not to launch any kids at the ceiling 4:30 it's all good pretty much like was having an anxiety attack right and I'm like okay I'm gonna ask jod at break how long it takes for allergic reaction set in

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