GBAPSD Board of Education Meeting: February 26, 2024

001[Music] so I just to give you an update of what's happened so far tonight we had our our our um Clos session where we had an expulsion and we had collective bargaining and then because we had some extra time we went ahead and and dealt with some of the stuff that we were going to deal with in our close session that was scheduled for after our regular meeting we might end up going back um and finishing that but it's six o'clock so we need to get going on this so um so that's kind of how we're going to proceed now um before we get started um I just want to say that I and I read this out before but I'm going to do it again I want to take a moment to thank Laura

002Leon and Warren for her service to this district and to this community it's a lot to ask of a citizen to step up and serve in this way and she did it with um Grace and with kindness I'm really going to miss her I think we're all going to miss her so I want to just send that to her um so okay Kinsey could you do the roll call please LLY here beer here Welch here Mills here gerlock here McCoy here okay uh James is uh joining us from India um and I don't know if he'll be able to join us for the entire meeting but for now he's with us and we appreciate that I think it's some ungodly early hour right now in in India um okay I'm sorry oh hang on just

003a second here so I did not call all right will you all please rise for the pledge to States of America the indivisible okay um it's um can we do um could someone read the mission statement please we educate all students to be college career and Community ready inspired to succeed in our diverse world thank you all right now we're going to read the uh land acknowledgement we the members of the greenb area public school district recognize and honor the original inhabitants of Northeast Wisconsin our district lives works and learns upon the ancestral homelands of the monomon and hunk Nations and the current homeland of United Nation we acknowledge the 12 diverse and vibrant Wisconsin person naations who have persevered here since before recorded time and can and continue to be integral parts of our

004community we uphold our responsibility to repair relationships initiate Partnerships and stand with offers Nation communities louder okay um do we have any inner city student council members of um available remotely no okay then we're move on to the open forum and I'm going to go so if you are wanting to speak tonight we have quite a stack of people who want to speak so it's going to take quite a long time so everyone get comfortable um we're going to take them in the order that we received them and um we're going to start with yeah I mean if you're still wanting to speak um I believe we have forms on the table out there um please fill one out you can it will be coming up to the microphone you'll get five minutes uh we're

005going to keep because we have so many we're going to be pretty strict about the time um because a lot of people want to speak tonight so we want to hear from you um Brian's maybe we're gonna oh we're gonna have it up on the screen that'll help a lot and um fill out the form and give it to kidy over here and she'll make sure I get it so okay um we're going to first hear from Robert I'm sorry I'm not GNA probably pronounce his name um correctly but he lives on Hy Street okay thank you Robert um just state state your name your address and you have five minutes thank you my name is Robert argues and my address is 1634 Hy Street uh good evening and thank you for allowing me this

006time to share my concerns and hopes for the future future about 7 years ago to the day I found out I was going to be a father for the first time I was Restless that night thinking about how to give my child endless opportunities it was in this restlessness I began looking into the top schools in the country and I found Wisconsin's number one k through eight Leonardo D Vinci fast forward from that night to present day we have spent countless hours and dollars shaping our lives for this gifted and talented Magnet School recently Leonardo da Vinci shared this feedback I attended Da Vinci from 4th to 8th grade over all it's a great school for skied students you are placed in classes where you belong and you have the opportunity to advance further for

007example in fourth grade I was first placed in fifth grade math class but after two weeks I was replaced in sixth grade class the next another class this put me very far ahead in math and challenge me in my favorite subject this student statement was from December 31st 2022 and during the founding principal leadership Miss Tammy van djk this was the case in the process until the end of last year when she resigned our experience at present time has been far uh has been our experience at present time is far from the feedback referenced and shared and I'll touch on that shortly uh but no from the Inception of Da Vinci the district was never really involved in D Vinci's acceleration or um advancement procedures and I have an email here from the gifted and

008talented Department that you guys can take a look at afterwards um but the email quotes to give you some clarity in history in the past the GT Department from teaching and learning has not been in direct communication with da Vinci when it comes to their acceleration procedures we have been asking for our son to be considered for acceleration since before since before school July 2023 it was not until December 2023 that an escalation was made and an end of the year assessment was given to our son Anthony scored an 84.5 on that end of the year assessment just three months into the school year in first grade math as a kinder gner Anthony was accelerated the first time with an 85% into first grade math under miss van dijk's Direction and recommendation I offered to

009provide Dr tiller a letter of recommendation for Anthony to advance an additional level in math from miss van djk and he said it was not needed as the district had a strict 90% cut off for acceleration I asked for my son to take the assessment again and was met with crickets and or no acknowledgement to this request Anthony is on Pace to do something no kindergartner has done in the history of Le Ard Da Vinci this is complete the 5 minute two-minute Dragon dashes for addition subtraction multiplication and division Anthony is in kindergarten and starting long division at the age of six the school used to have assemblies to recognize these achievements miss van dijke has confirmed she would accelerate multiple through students throughout the Academic Year most of which had scores below the 90%

010cut off miss van djk has stated she could teach those missing gaps sometimes as little as one or two sessions with the student our son proved that by learning the missing 15.5% on the assessment in just 10 minutes I have reached out to miss van dijes for miss van dijk's guidance and amending the current District policy as Da Vinci was as Da Vinci was forced to adhere to the district policy she is adamant against the set percentage being used to determine acceleration after extensive research and speaking with staff members at the green base area public schools I have learned that many District employees incoming used to have to get a 90% on their assessment and that was lowered in the early 2000s to an 80% that would be clerical and I believe engineering I am

011here today to ask the Board of Education to amend the acceleration policy to the following upon written a verbal request for acceleration and possible advancement the school will give an endof thee assessment within two weeks it took me six months a composite score of 90% is recommended but a composite score of 80% would be required matching what you have incoming staff acceleration meetings should also be audio recorded and added to a student's digital file all meetings should be recorded as it's in the best interest of both district and student I had multiple issues where I was not able to reference something from acceleration meetings because there was no recording uh a student should have the ability to retake the exam after a period of 30 days parents must be provided all information regarding testing and

012the acceleration meeting with a 72-hour notice to prepare a PLP or personal learning plan must be provided at the time of either approval or denial of acceleration mine took four months my wife and I are uh providing each member today a copy of the book miss van djk regularly referenced when she and her staff would make the da Vinci the number one school it's called Uh genius denied um in closing previous results at Leonard D Vinci speak for themselves with a near 100% success rate Tammy is arguably the most knowledgeable reference of student could have and for Dr tiller to directly reference of grade level curriculum and professional training and not take her reference to account was unacceptable thank you very much okay next is uh Amanda Garcia you have five minutes and state just

013State your address as well hi everyone my name is Amanda Garcia my address is 334 South Van Bean here in Green Bay my statement is on behalf of the united front for social change which includes we all rise Gala melan and kamsa and I do want to direct myself to the community and let you all know that regardless of what happens with Dr tiller the community leaders are here with you and we will stand by you through this process so I will be brief I want you all to know that we started a petition online to reinstate superintendent Dr Claude tiller Jr for the Green Bay Area Public School District I'm going to read the petition to you today and I am speaking on behalf of the community and these this is what the community

014wants our community viewed the now recently made public Atlanta radio talk show interview titled navigating educational leadership insights from the first black superintendent of Green Bay Schools of Dr tiller Jr that prompted his recent resignation there are no comments made in the interview that we understand to be grounds for termination of a superintendent that has shown nothing but promise and progress for the Green Bay School District Dr tiller has made more productive changes and established stronger connections with students staff and schools than any superintendent in over a decade his dedication to education and commitment to our community is evident in his actions he has been instrumental in fostering an environment that F prioritizes learning equity and inclusivity for all students his permanent absence will be undoubtedly will create a void that will be hard to

015fill and will damage the Community Trust of the Green Bay public schools in order to improve the learning experience for all students Dr tiller was selected for his leadership role due to his extensive experience working in an urban environment proven results in closing achievement gaps and demonstrated experience building relationships we believe that every student deserves the best possible education which we firmly believe Dr tiller can provide as he has shown US during his brief tenure so far this petition is not about me it's not about the community leaders in the room it's about the families that live in this school district it's about preserving Community Trust and truly working toward the quality of Education that our children deserve in the Green Bay Area Public Schools we urge you to consider the Imp of this decision

016on the students future and we demand the reinstating of Dr tiller immediately this petition as of a few seconds ago has over 1,062 signatures and I again I just want to address the community in the room um it is it is a sad it's sad for me to be up here um as a community leader we all started the grieving process as soon as we heard that an investigation was taking place the message that was shared this morning to District families I am one of those District families um it the message was about misinformation I am here today we're not here today to say that this is about misinformation this is about how Dr tiller was treated as the first black superintendent this school district we are questioning the process on of how this took

017place and you he was hired out of 20 very highly qualified candidates and you wanted him to create change in this District so I hope that at some point the board the administration can provide answers to all of the community members that are here today as to why this decision took place and the only way to move forward is to reinstate him as our superintendent that is our first demand after that happens we have a list of others that will follow thank you thank you um next we have Matt freck you'll just State your full name and your address please and you have five minutes Matt freck 203 Grey Street this community once again finds ourselves in a pivotal moment one where the principles of diversity and inclusion are not merely academic mic con Concepts

018but the very Foundation of our community's integrity and future the recent scrutiny of Dr Claude tiller Jr and the manner in which the board's message was conveyed to the staff and families is to put it bluntly a glaring misstep it was less an act of transparency and more a maneuver to dodge the true accountability that our students staff and Community deserve this isn't just about one individual it's about the systematic failures that the situation has laid before and let me be clear the decision to sideline the values we support particularly regarding Community commitments to our students of color is not just an oversight it's a deliberate act that undermines the very promises made by the Green Bay Area Public School leadership this act sends a chilling message that the commitments to diversity and inclusion are

019negotiable subject to change based on convenience rather than conviction this isn't an isolated incident it's deeper more Insidious problem systemic bias where white supremacist thinking has found subtle refuge in our policies and practices this is the cycle of Injustice we're up against it's not enough to Simply acknowledge it we must actively fight against it the time for platitudes and half-hearted measures is over we are here tonight to demand a new Direction one that truly honors the voice and experience of experiences of all those who have been marginalized and disre disregarded our guiding principle should always be well-being and success of all students with a keen focus on uplifting those from underrepresented backgrounds you the Board of Education are at the crossroads will you choose the well Trot in path of indifference or will you seize

020this moment to Stand Up Against Racism to celebrate the rich diversity of our student body and to make things right in the past acknowledging our failures is probably a good start we need tangible decisive actions to heal and move forward leadership must be rooted in empathy compassion and an unwavering commitment to Justice qualities we believed were embodied by Dr Claude tiller Jr's appointment urance can no longer be Alibi we knew the value of diversity then we must be its steadfast Champions now in closing on the board and its leaders the weight of this moment is on all of your shoulders it's time to fully acknowledge the gravity of your decisions and their impact act boldly correct the course and commit to genuine lasting change our students deserve no less and let this be the moment

021you choose to be on the right side of History so clearly I sped through that that was supposed to take me five minutes Mr Becker I would like to just acknowledge your presence on Saturday I'll say my my grandmother and my parents race some pretty strong gentlemen but I don't think we would stack up to you in a room full of people that necessarily didn't like you too much for mayor Schmidt former mayor Schmidt who's no not here tonight I also commend him for standing up and talking representing the community in a fashion he should and the last thing I'm gonna say which might some people off which is okay I'm looking at the community down on you want to paint these things on your Sidelines and wear stickers but why don't you walk into

022the school district once in a while and talk to Dr Claude tiller and that starts from the top down from Mark Murphy from the public relations Aaron popy Jason Whalers wallers excuse me Matt laflure Jordan love who I know has impact this community with people in this room for brother for brothers donations and whatnot it's not hard it's really not hard just a bunch of people that want to hear their voice heard and not have six people stand up here that look nothing like them thank you thank you next we have Stephanie Ortiz Stephanie rtiz 520 Pine Terrace 54301 is my ZIP code and I have a son in that attends Kennedy Elementary School I'm also the youth prevention and evaluation director and one of the host of organizing community members voice coming to the

023present space today we all rise African-American Resource Center I'm going to start by offering my own land acknowledgement because I think when I heard it when you all offered it it failed to mention the most important part and that is that this land was stolen this land was stolen that was not in your land acknowledgement and so we cannot surpass the systemic R racism and genocide that has happened in our communities for Generations so we cannot bypass racism and talk about healing we cannot talk about reconciliation without first talking about truth so for my land acknowledgement I acknowledge that this land was stolen and I acknowledge that we currently gather upon the Earth that the monomin nation people original inhabited our presence would not be possible without the caretaking and continued contributions of tribal nations

024in Wisconsin and something that I offer that you all add to your acknowledgements is a labor acknowledgement for labor I acknowledge the labor of black and brown folks who have come before me who have for Generations sacrificed their lives to build this place we can now call home our presence would not be possible without their grit their resilience and their freedom dreams I'm shaking up here because the gravity of this moment is so deep I don't know about you all around this table but I have never seen a room full of folks from community in this space the role of the school board from my understanding is to ensure that school districts are responsible to the values beliefs and priorities of their communities by you all refusing to listen to community voice you are not

025being in alignment with these values just in the way that when we get gathered here today you went to close session came back and decided to go back into close session even though it wasn't supposed to happen until after Community input to talk about the superintendent role but that is why we are all gathered here today to hopefully inform you all of what to consider when you have those critical conversations around your Clos session tables and so just like you all came into the space and decided we have 30 minutes let's go back into Clos session and start getting getting on with our business the reason why here we are here today is to inform you all in your decision making because as it is stated in your roles that you all are supposed to

026be responsive to the priorities of community community is here today Wisconsin reports the widest score gap between black and white students in the nation guess why Dr Claude tiller knows why the root cause of the problematic outcomes that we are seeing in our school district school district is systemic racism I'm going to say that again our outcomes in our school district are rooted in systemic racism Dr Claude tiller was putting strategies in place to address the root cause of the inequities that we are seeing in our School District when he talked about it on a talk show radio hosts it might make some people uncomfortable but something that I learned is UNC discomfort is a sign of growth and it is time for change furthermore Wisconsin again is at the top of the lists for

027the worst states in the nation not just educational achievement gaps unemployment low income disproportionate High rates of incarceration among the black community 7% of the Wisconsin population is black but we make up 40% of the prison population what is the root cause Dr Claude tiller knows what it is racism when we have leaders like Dr Claude tiller in our space in our positions of leadership who understand what the root causes of all the inequities are it's time we keep them my ask and my demand is that you reinstate Dr Claude tiller and do not waste any further tax dollars I'm thinking that somebody else is the best person to lead our Green Bay aial Public School District it is Dr Claude tiller and I offer and make I offer that you all consider reinstating Dr

028Claude tiller now thank you thank you next we have Robin Scott all right so I'm G take my five minutes and I'm going to address the group here today because I want to just tell y'all how I feel from my heart with this board right here they uh coming in here today all of this is how they moved the last couple of weeks it's all been about strategy and so they count on us coming one time filling the room and then getting tired and then acting like or exploring the narrative that we don't give a damn about our kids and when we know that that's opposite of the truth they used this lawyer and hid behind a lawyer and said that claw hid behind a lawyer but we know like Stephanie said all of this

029is rooted in racism another thing that I want to let you all know is that podcast that they show us you weren't nobody was going to hear that because that was in a private Atlanta black woman's group and nobody was going to see that besides the sneaky person who was already following Claud Tiller that went and got the podcast and leaked it right cuz what you would have heard was what the words that was saying on the radio show and I want to make that clear so that we stop getting confused by what racism does to eliminate the words of the people the next thing that I want to say is Ed dorf is not one of your board members and so when you called I've seen you writing down all the statistics and all

030of those things and I know very well know a lot of those things because they're they're in the books they're Federal and National statistics that we know that was kind proud of but when Ed dorf was called knowing that many people in this community had a lot of respect for him and knowing that he had a history with those teachers and when Ed dorf said he said 92% of the teachers were incompetent and you all stood by and let that get released you stood behind a lie and you knew it when you are a well-respected in person in this community to that regard every single word that you say you know that it's a word of influence and it's a word of matter you know that you confuse people and you hit the heart so

031let me tell y'all how we going to hit y'all heart because what happened is y' we showed up today with this formality and we've been showing up every day and then you all don't seem to listen very well so since black and brown people don't have power to those that are rooted in racism with all the power we're going to tell you like this and I think the brother already smacked it off earlier the 2025 draft those are student athletes and so since you want to fail students black students and brown students in particular we want to know if the World believes that it's okay to have the biggest academic achievement gap between black and white students in the nation and then you want to come here and just play ball I want to let

032you all know we don't shut up and dribble we're not going to continue to deal with what we've dealt with we got our superintendent we're asking y'all to reinstate him now and the last time we came here we said we can handle this amicably we can come to the board with the the board and hope that the board will listen to us and stop listening to the antics of your lawyer cuz they're not good and if you think like I said our attention spans is short don't let micr scrolling fool you we don't forget so as we continue to tell y'all every single one of you that continue with your board position your silence is complicity your silence is violence and your silence is consent as you have already participated in historical failure of black

033and brown families within the school I watch on my Facebook as people start to make comments because of your violence that threatened the lives of the leaders of these Resource Centers who are actually the people on the ground serving the people we are not sitting around tables and we are tired of being the ones that have to carry community on our back and then you sat there every single time we came up here you didn't listen to us and you he the fact that it's because your lawyer says so we're the people that voted you in that have encouraged you that was stand behind you but not one of you have stood behind us and listened to the impact and the hurt that y'all have riveted through our community it is non-negotiable for you all

034to go back into your Clos session and to think about the fact that you all were supposed to stand behind claw tiller and have his back and I wonder if y'all even called him see if it was one of y'all or somebody that looked like y'all he would have got a call that is what love looks like and solidarity is love and I promise you this is what love looks like we will not stop thank you next is uh Chelsea crano I'm sorry can you say your name and your address thank hi it's Chelsea cranes it's 645 Brookridge street thank you I'd like to preface my comments this evening with the following so they cannot be misconstrued I unaware of what is disussed Behind These closed door meetings but I do know that you are

035elected officials and respectively are entrusted in doing what's right for the education of our children and our future we have experienced four different individuals in the past five years sitting in the superintendent's chair ultimately resulting in leadership instability retention challenges political disagreements and not being able to address systemic issues there is an enormous referendum at stake that you think these people might not know about they know we're aware 90 plus million dollars to be exact and guess what you're relying on this community you are relying we are your face our kids are your face as board members do you guys realize that you're counting on our votes our voices need to be heard not Behind These closed door meetings a community divided a community who feels unheard and marginalized a community who feels the district

036does not have what is in the best interest of all the students will put the approval of this referendum significantly at risk I sincerely hope that the three sentences that surface from what Ed dorf allegedly heard from a two hourong video does not take away from this referendum and now Vicky fa has to be the face of recourse yet again yet again how is that fair while you guys all can sleep okay at night I don't think you can because you didn't do what's right do what's right so you can sleep at night that was something that was instilled in my head as a child even if it didn't end well in my favor at least I know I can sleep well at night because I did what's right the lack of due process for

037Dr tiller has caused a ripple effect you may not have hurt the people of our commun community physically but emotionally and mentally you have due to your lack of integrity and level of hypocrisy I couldn't even believe the email that came out this morning we understand that this is not what some members of the community want to hear that does not mean we have disregarded concerns regarding equity and equality and the need for greater understanding and inclusion among all stakeholders if this wasn't the hypocritical statement I've ever read in my life I don't know what was because that's what got killer to where he is today by speaking his mind and what the truths were and that's all going to unfold it's unfortunate that we have to worry about having a Target on our back

038because we're worried about what others think we should be doing what's right and what's wrong you don't need policies to interact with people you don't need coaching you don't need to bring people in here for you if if you're a real genuine human that's automatic love is automatic hate is taught love is not regardless the outcome of this disarray again I hope you do what's right so you can sleep at night and to Laura Leon I I appreciate that she was unfortunately one of the only members on the board that had any type of background of you know suffering and trials and tribulations and she's not here um but you know you guys already cooked this man's dinner you can't get out of the kitchen because it's hot now you can all face the Heat

039and you have the time to do what's right this man had the best interest for our kids like I interviewed so many kids I shouldn't say so many want I don't want to be you know like calling the cattle black here but 10 kids and I asked them do you do you know anybody on the board do you know any of them no I couldn't if they came into my room I wouldn't know who they were but they knew who Dr Claude tiller Jr was I'll leave it at that okay um the next person is Rhonda sniko is she in the room or I think we might need to call her okay thank you if we're just going to have to pause while we we tried to get her on the phone while I'm sorry

040I got to take these in the order that they were given all right do you have her okay Ronda can you hear us hello oh Rhonda I think you're muted okay I think I got it all right go ahead can you hear me okay thank you um so I'm still at work I truly appreciate being able to do this over the phone my client is gracious enough to give me five minutes away from her um so I appreciate the time um my name is Ronda sit nikow and I live at 315 North Greenwood Avenue in Green Bay I'm a parent of a student in the district and also a former Schoolboard member the district and Board of Education continue to make a mockery of the word public in public education this entitled Behavior while running

041things in a vacuum only serves you not the students and families in your community on the Alle alleged or on the resignation the board should absolutely have waited for the community to hear the video prior to taking a vote you failed you failed your claim of Engagement equity and Excellence when you operated in a self-serving white privileged manner confusing everyone around you more importantly you didn't allow for Community feedback on actual facts once the video was released I watched in its entirety my take is that I was witnessing two people who were sharing their lived experiences and observations in the world of education and life on the flip side of that there are people who listened who are not in those shoes having had very different experiences and understandings of the topic of conversation and

042then there are the individuals who will do anything to keep power so what do you do in the future this is going to come up every time you have someone who sees and feels the world from a different lens as they have a right to because it is their truth do we want to whitewash their belief system down to a corporate word salad of nothing we've had way too many years of that and has led us nowhere except to three superintendent in four years right now the black indigenous and people of color in our community are looking at you telling you they do not trust you and they don't believe you have their best interest you claim that you want diversity you go looking for it but you don't actually know how and you're not

043committed to the inclusion part moving forward will the school board go back to the status quo that's usually the the way it goes in this District you know the safe space is everyone going to work off a censored script now to be approved on a daily basis as a board you've been very notably silent for quite a while on most issues and unfortunately you've been convinced from District administrators and lawyers that you don't have rights to public engagement well you do and you should start that tomorrow the district office has always had too much power and they're out of touch about what's happening in the schools some of you believe this many teachers and staff know this look at the most recent report that you happily happily paid a consulting company to collect feedback on

044that just vanished into th air until the media caught on and then your board president gaslit the findings of it that was really special I'm personally looking forward to changes on the board including leadership that will truly represent the interests of the school Community your community deserves better thank you thank you Rhonda next is Mary shills or shs state your name and address and you have five minutes hello my name is Mary shills I live at 1013 South Jackson Street I'm the mother of two adult children who attended Green Bay Public Schools I'm a supporter of public education and I am also a white mom of two black young adult men I listened to Dr tiller's 2hour interview in its entirety and I suggest anyone before they form an opinion do the same I was

045not offended nor was I angered by his remarks I do think that the host of the show did the majority of talking and as is her as the host of a show asked provocative questions to uh encourage communication white listeners uh for whom this may have been the first time hearing a conversation on race between two black people were probably uncomfortable they heard some difficult things for example a reference to Lily white Green Bay Community leaders government officials corporate leaders are overwhelmingly white he was simply stating the obvious I suggest that you consider driving through through some neighborhoods that you may not otherwise drive through the black neighborhoods and the Latino neighborhoods disparity between teachers of color and the numbers of students of color Dr tiller did not say that white students were incapable of

046teaching black students he stated what research shows kids of color benefit from having teachers of color he did not state that he was looking to replace teachers he was simply on a recruiting tour looking for teachers of color I commend him for proactively going to the HBCU colleges as a white parent I understand that I am not able to teach my black children through my own lived experience I love them I support them but I have not lived in their skin reference Dr tiller referenced businesses holding employees of color down specifically he mentioned the meat processing industry here we should acknowledge the fact that Latino workers come here to earn a living and support their families they accept jobs with too me which too many white workers are unwilling to do roofers painters laying black

047top meat processing produce processing these workers have very little power I do believe that Dr tiller made two errors during his interview number one he spoke a lot about I I I I and not enough in my opinion about we good leaders also good leaders never speak about performance concerns of employees in public especially in the disparaging way such as he did he certainly owes an apology to the individual he referenced and to all those under his leadership position his words likely eroded the trust of Administrators Educators and Court staff alike he needs to do some hard work to repair that in my opinion the Green Bay school board's quick decision making was cowardice matters of inequity based on race and economic status are uncomfortable to deal with especially on the part of the privileged

048who don't experience the inequity it's easy to turn away but is now time to tackle the difficulty all of us in this room are here because we care about the education of our children I can't think of a better lesson for us to teach them than to lead by example and courageously name the mistakes each of us has made and to demonstrate our ability to come together with our differing perspectives and in order to come to a better resolution to this matter thank than you my address no it's okay it's on the Forum as well um the first or the next person is JX Anderson so state your name and address and um we have five minutes oh thank you yeah that's hi my name is Jax Anderson uh I live on the stolen and

049occupied territory of monamon nation in Greenville my name is Rachel Westberg um and I'm a graduate of Green Bay East class of 2012 today we are here to formerly request that the Green Bay Area Public School District Board of Education consider extending an offer representing theity sentiments to Dr Claude tiller Jr for the reinstatement of his role as superintendent of the Green Bay School District additionally we would like to address the recent communication from Green Bay Area Public School regarding the decision to put Dr tiller under review frankly the email sent to staff and families appears more like an attempt to Shield yourselves from accountability than a genuine effort to address concerns it is crucial to recognize ize that your actions have consequences you consciously chose to make promises to the community regarding diversity and

050representation particularly for marginalized students of color however you also made the deliberate choice to break those promises this Falls squarely on the shoulders of the Green Bay Area Public School Board and leadership team furthermore it's imperative to acknowledge the pervasive influence of white supremist ideologists of our society many of us including myself have been conditioned by these systems indoctrinated to hold them up to perpetuate inequality and Injustice however recognizing this conditioning is not enough action is required it is time to stop the cycle of manipulation and evasion as adults and elected leaders it is incumbent upon you to listen listen actively and empathetically to the marginalized voices of the community your constituents that you took an oath to represent the well-being of our students particularly those from marginalized groups should be par mount in every

051decision made you have a choice I'm gonna say that again you have a choice to perpetuate the status quo or to stand against racism and support our diverse student body it is not enough to Simply acknowledge wrongdoing genuine accountability requires concrete steps toward rectifying the harm that has been caused we implore you to reflect on the values of humanity empathy and compassion that should guide your actions it is not enough to claim ignorance you knew the importance of diversity when hiring Dr tiller now is it the time to demonstrate that commitment in practice in conclusion the responsibility for the current situation lies squarely on the Green Bay Area Pool Public School District board and the leadership team it's time to acknowledge this reality take ownership of your choices and take decisive action to acknowledge address

052and rectify the harm that has been caused our students deserve nothing less from you since we have time left I would just like to say that this email that Rachel and I wrote we sent it to you today and I just wanted to read it tonight because I'm not sure you're checking your emails because you're probably getting a lot of them so I wanted to make sure that you heard it firsthand and I wanted to look at every single one of you while I said it I also want to say that I was raised in this area as a white person too I understand the gaslighting and manipulation and evasion I was indoctrinated and trained in it as well Growing Up So when you try to manipulate and Gaslight the community I know what that

053looks like all right so I just want you to know that we see it all right thank you um the next person is Jeffrey Watson Jeffrey Watson oh okay all right um just state your name address and you have five minutes uh Jeffrey Watson 1022 morine way number five uh to begin with uh the state statement that I received from the board there was no name on the statement after the form I filled out was I felt was condescending it felt like you were actually lecturing me on the process of what you did in order to oust Dr tiller which should have been a 15 or 20 minute HR office visit um was a whole bunch of smoke and all of a sudden no fire there was nothing there the media they haven't printed a

054quote yet why is that anybody want to venture a guess as our children all children we think they're not watching we think they're not paying attention as they're playing around and doing their normal things as we sit around the kitchen table and talk about things without a mic on the kitchen table on the living room in garages and then when something happens the parents always say I did not teach my child that if you think the children of this District was not not paying attention think again the chilling effect that you unanimously gave to people who they seen was a leader and who spoke and was silenced and banished so that they think now wow if I Rise up there what could happen to me you think they're not thinking that come on they're friends

055the ones on the other side of the tracks They See as well and they're paying attention I remember way back when you know parents just say is that child looking in my mouth thinking about what saying listen to what I'm saying children need to be somewhere else but they see they paying attention they can't help it the Packers the Green Bay Packers I remember Reggie White came to this town and in his book National interviews said Green Bay was a racist he didn't say Lily white he said Wast and then he repeated it over and over over and over I just want to express that how they gave him and his wife signature for us that you if you buy one he already had the signature on the back Dr tiller who has uh a

056very important job guiding staff and students spent more time out there walking around talking to teachers nobody has really talked about the teachers here but what is about the chilling effect on them if they speak out lastly these jobs are not permanent each and every one of you that in a couple of days couple of days thousand signatures look at this room this is not a joke these people are passionate as I am my granddaughter goes to chap my sons went to three or four different schools here all four this is an investment here and they're hearing the community we don't all live on the same neighborhood we don't live on the same block but we're here for a common cause which is the reinstatement a great offer him back because you think he's not

057hearing the support now and it's not going to stop r e c a l l r e c a l l that's recall think you can't raise them signatures this is serious business here thank you the next person is Wendy Woodward Wendy thank you I'll just state your name address and you have five minutes sure thank you uh good evening my name is Wendy Woodward 2868 nicolay uh I come before you today as a white woman who is trying to learn and understand the perspective of those that don't look like me I'm not claiming to understand their experience but I know it is different uh I'm a mother an educ education executive for over 25 years former School Board member um in another town and understand the the challenges of this today I'm speaking here

058though because I do feel that there's been an injustice done in the handling of Dr Tillman's employment as a result of his recent radio interview and I am asking you to carefully consider your next step so that the education of our children can continue in a way that celebrates diversity and inclusion after listening to the interview in its entirety I have come to the conclusion that Dr tiller should have been supported by the board versus taking the path that led to his resignation I can understand I can understand why the initial response to the interview may have been to reduce liability uh but when the comments are viewed through the lens of actual experience by people who do not look like me us I would offer that the statements that were made should be used

059as a mirror to reflect the reality of many who are in the room tonight the fact is that racism exists in Green Bay whether or not we white people can see it or understand it with the majority of our students being minorities we as a community owe it to them to work collaboratively to change that reality here in Green Bay we need to embrace the conversations that make us uncomfortable open our minds to seeing how we can use our voices and actions to radically accelerate culture change resulting in the graduation of the best and most confident Next Generation into our community there are many academic studies that demonstrate the value of students having role models that Inspire them these studies confirm that the students in Green Bay Public Schools need to see proportional number of

060teachers administrators and leaders who reflect them and their culture to enhance success to support this effort I ask that you consider appointing a replacement board member who reflects the majority of the students in our community you have the power to do that now you have a room full of people who I think are willing to participate I also ask that you work with Dr Tillman to return him to his position as superintendent sorry tiller thank you typo as he is exactly what the school district needs at this point in time I thank you for the opportunity to share my thoughts and pray that you will have wisdom and courage as you navigate and continue to navigate the situation thank you thank you the next person is Andrew pamperin while Andy's coming up I'm just going

061to request um double the amount of time because what we are going to be presenting tonight we are also being um going to be reading in Spanish for our daughter who is only Spanish speaking and I sat through hours of meetings and cannot understand a word so f is was good evening my name is Andrew pamperin I live at 1673 Ontario Road Green Bay Wisconsin my children attend East High School and bared Elementary here in Green Bay I have two boys that attend bared Elementary and a daughter that attends Green Bay East High School who is primarily Spanish speaking my family moved to Green Bay boundaries as my oldest son has an ie he and was unable to open enroll in Green Bay Schools so that he could participate in the bilingual program that we

062love it was a privilege that our family had that many other families do not to move so that we could provide our children the education we know they deserve High School Elementary School Green Bay um I have always been proud to send my kids to Green Bay Public Schools recently this Pride was struck down by the unjust removal of our superintendent Dr tiller Jr I know I am a white man speaking in front of a diverse population and I agree wholeheartedly that I am unable to fully comprehend the challenges and adversities that marginalize folks in this district and Community experience on a daily basis I come to you as a father of are considered marginalized my two youngest in the district both have IEPs and participate in the bilingual program one of my children is

063twice exceptional requiring an IEP will simultaneously being a newcomer and speaking Spanish as her first language we have fought tooth and nail to provide her a fair Equitable education as she wants to be a teacher when she grows up she was even ready to volunteer 40 hours a week oh she was even ready to volunteer 40 hours a week for summer school last summer so she could keep up with her literacy literacy and be a role model for Young Elementary students the reasoning as to why that was not allowed our still not clear to me but it was then that my daughter experienced firsthand that inequities that occur in this District that disproportionately impact marginalized populations when my daughter learned about Dr tiller's res resignation she was in this very room she did not need

064to understand every word to understand pain in the eyes of people that looked like her once she began understanding what was happening all she could ask was why she is recognizing that if you say what you mean do anything to challenge the status quo you will be shunned and pushed out that if you were a person of color and you make a mistake that you will never be able to come back from it and that you are not allowed to grow as a human Andor a professional min in Dr we moved our children to Green Bay Schools because we believe in its mission to educate ate all students to be college career and Community ready inspired to succeed in our diverse World however you are teaching them right here and right now that regardless of

065your commitment regardless of your knowledge regardless of your perspective that if you are a member of a marginalized population you will not be able to succeed in this world GRE this is not a system I want to raise my daughter in let alone my other children I am trying to teach them with every fiber of my being that humans are complex and that if we do not come up with curiosity about other people about their experiences about structural and institutional inequalities that we as a human race will never grow or evolve that if we as white people cannot admit to our mistakes and misuses of power that we will continue to create barriers instead of removing them I will then have to watch my marginalized children go through a system that despite the incredible work

066of individuals along the way will not forgive them for being marginalized and will actually punish them for it embrace the uncomfortable do your research and learn how the systems in play right here in Green Bay push marginalized folks out of our schools it pushed Dr tiller out are my children next Bonnie I promise I'm not wake roering I just really love my baby in thank you next is fenny matab boros state your name your address and you have five minutes so hi my name is Fanny and uh Fanny ulisa and I'm from Green Bay 1673 Ontario Road okay take your time [Music] I I speak for all that have come from very far away and have come to Green Bay and are feeling like um white people in our community are not accepting us [Music]

067I came from um another country when I was only 14 years old so that I could have better opportunity learn meet new people and get to interact with people from um my own race what's happening right now where we're not accepting people that look different or are even from another country is an injustice [Music] instead of um pushing him out we should be thanking Dr that all of um the teachers here especially all the greenos the the white folks have a job that was supported by Dr [Music] tiller we should be very grateful for the opportunity that Dr tiller has given us um as a community and our our weight teachers especially should be grateful for the um education that Dr tiller was providing [Music] them [Music] um I as a student at East I

068know that in our building we need people that look like us that can understand our language that can understand the different things that we've been through we deserve to have teachers like Mr Nico there to support us well Jo [Music] we need people like Dr tiller because we have a language that's unspoken we understand each other even if my mom loves me she'd be white and there's just things about me she'll never understand but there's an unspoken understanding between leaders like Mr other and students like me at the end of the day we're going to keep fighting to get Dr tiller back because he's the um superintendent that we deserve and that our teachers need thank you um the next person's name is Carla um on Aquarius Road um Kinsey are we supposed to be

069calling her she didn't return your call okay is there someone named Carla in the room who lives on Aquarius Road okay I'm gonna we're gonna have to move on we have quite a few names left so um the next person is Amy Olen G gu I'm sorry I'm sure cirle first of all I want to thank you all for being here and giving us so much of your time thank you for going overtime with us and thank you for giving us this opportunity to speak um I know it's hard it's um these are my students from Preble so I am representing our diversity leadership group from prebble um we've had quite a few discussions there are many students who want to be heard but it's kind of scary to come up here so um Funnie

070wow wow Funnie did it I was so proud of her um I'm also a parent and I have two children in in the public schools and so I'm here today to advocate for both my children and all of my students um we in University leadership have done a process of working with people that we don't agree with and we are hoping that you will lead us in that in a process similar to that a process of reconciliation and restoration for our community um and we want you to take as long as necessary even I mean it could take months and months it could take a year we want you to have Community circles where you listen to everyone in the community all perspectives all voices we want people who have different opinions and different perspectives

071we want everyone to be heard and understood um and to hold as many Community listening circles as you need to hold to make that happen we also feel that it would be important to have Dr tiller be a part of those Community circles so that he can talk and share and apologize or whatever he wants to share um we think he's it's important to include all the voices in those circles um we want wanted to share an example of something that we've done at Preble we had students who were very upset that some students were not standing for the Pledge of Allegiance and we had some students who were not standing because they had a reason they weren't standing and so we invited all these students together and created a safe space where everyone given

072the opportunity to share their perspective and we had very very different perspectives and people felt very passionate about their perspective and at the end we all respected each other we listen to each other we learn from each other um the kids actually couldn't believe how that some of the microaggressions that our students were experiencing on a daily basis uh the other students also said that they were being judged by their appearances and it was really very very powerful um and that's high school students so I feel like the high school students can lead us in this um they're actually very amazing and very resp respectful of each other um so and they also wanted me to make sure that I said um oh we all make mistakes we all need to be forgiven we all

073need reconciliation at times and we really hope you take this opportunity to engage in community problem solving reconciliation and restorative justice for all and the kids wanted to shout out to Dr Claude tiller Jr if hopefully he's listening that they are they have your back thank you next is Eric dwiki you have state your name and address and you have hi there my name is Eric dwiki um my address is 632 South Roosevelt um I'm the president of a local neighborhood association vice president of another and the vice chair of the mental health task force here in Brown County also the vice chair of the Green Bay board of review that handles uh tax assessment appeals uh if my my wife and I were ever blessed with children they would probably resemble their roots in

074michaan Mexico more than the roots from varsa Poland so what I'm about to say here will probably end off everyone in the room as they say you can't make everybody happy all the time but if you try hard enough you can make them all Angry um first of all when Dr tiller was hired everyone in this room saw some of the disgusting things that were said everybody saw words and things posted like oh that's an affirmative action hire all that kind of baloney that's proof there is a lot of work to do the same time when I met him at Green Bay neighborhoods meeting unlike what was said on the radio show I didn't see his bow tie and think he was a Muslim I saw him and I thought this guy's probably as smart

075as Bill and I you know I so so let me tell you if I said some of the things that were said on that podcast about my subordinates if I said they couldn't be trusted to necessarily treat people of A different race fairly or as good as possible I wouldn't have been given the chance to resign I would have been fired before my next shift and if somehow that didn't happen my subordinates wouldn't work for me anymore I wouldn't be able to effectively do my job and that's heartbreaking because I don't believe that some of the things that were said Were Meant to come across the way they did I don't believe after meeting Dr tiller and after speaking with him and after seeing some of the things he's done that it was his intent

076to convey that and let me tell you something else some people here have presented an idea that this community is terrible let me tell everybody in this room my wife went to Longfellow Elementary she then went to Davis Middle School if you don't know where this Chain's going she then attempted Compton High you know every day every every week my my wife saying Lift Every Voice I loved hearing that but when we should when she decided where we would live after we got married when she was given the choice between her hometown and here she agreed with us news report that Green Bay is the best place to live she agreed with that and she said hey I want to live in Green Bay and eight years later she and I are proof that people

077that look different can love each other perfectly that we can coexist let me tell you about a story down the block from us uh down the block from me on Roosevelt lived a Packer player named Jonathan Garvin and he met me because he thought my dog was cute and you look at me you say all right well next to him a dog would look cute yes um he talked about how he lived in urban Miami his whole life and when he moved to the astop park neighborhood he said I didn't know places as good as this existed um you see there were some wrong assumptions made when we talk about Green Bay being Lily white as if if there's something wrong with Green Bay but there's also wrong assumptions made if you say there's nothing

078wrong with Green Bay like I said I'm gonna piss off everybody in this room because from the other side of Roosevelt lived a Spanish-speaking mother who did not get notifications at the place she worked about the dangers of Co and when my wife was going to do a hospital visit to visit her to welcome her new baby she was told that Mom gave birth while in a coma because she had covid because her employer didn't post the things that Spanish-speaking people needed to know about covid she never got to name her baby so I'm going to tell you here we need to work together it's not the people on the board's fault that they look the way they do but it is our job as a community to make sure we have representation there probably

079should be a conservative on the board there probably should be a Spanish speaking or somebody that learned Spanish their first language on the board there should be uh frankly a larger board because if we see the kind of work that is expected of our board there's not enough people to do that work but there needs to be representation so there are two sides of Roosevelt there is a side of Roosevelt where a former Packer says it's the best place to live on earth there's a site of Roosevelt where a mother never got to name her baby we need to come together and work this through no one is the devil here but we have to love each other otherwise nothing will get solved thank you guys thank you next is riselle elante rizle talking just

080your name address and you have five minutes oh okay thank you um my name Ison I live at 110 little Swiss Place Green Bay Wisconsin 543 here2 um and gross okay sorry um so I went to Aldo Leopold um and then I went to Green Bay East High School and then I went to the University of Wisconsin Green Bay and um the only teacher of color I had was Tony um and and I thought I I took a lot of diverse classes um really what we're looking at here is just um we are not angry at all of you personally we're angry how people act in groups which is the systemic failures of of this school district I I really do believe that we need to start thinking outside of the box and um I

081quite frankly don't know how to even become a school board member um and I think that a lot of the community members would like to know that process um I I have a feeling that that type of education can be done not only in our educational institutions but also at home so as was said earlier it is a lot of our responsibility as parents as people who need to guide children to know what government is and how it can work for the people not against the people I think we are diluting ourselves into thinking that we can just let the same things keep slipping by and let them think that we have no power I think we have more power than we think and I think I really do think that there are a couple

082of you in this room right now that are thinking you know what I can do your job and that's not again it's not personal it's maybe for some people for me for me specifically and I speak for me I would have enjoyed seeing Alternatives in teachers and school administrative staff and I think that if you've been on the board for a specific amount of time take a step back reflect what were your initial goals and running are you completing those goals are you listening to the people and are you growing growth is good my friends growth growth is good um and just just one more thing I I don't want us to be scared anymore every single person in this room thinks and I was like because sometimes sometimes it feels like a movie right

083like like you your life kind of I don't know if that's a bad thing or anything they're any psychologists right here but like sometimes I feel like my life as a movie until I meet someone else who has almost the exact same storyline and they also think the same way and I'm like man I want to connect with that person and I want to keep talking about this so then in the next election cycle maybe one of us is like hey I'm going to run for this and this and this and this so like we're unhappy yes but we can do the change I mean we could probably do this part-time and still do some other stuff okay so I think think I think there should be maybe like a day a year and that's

084what I was going to talk about too is like I think there should be maybe like one day a year where we open up and we you know we hear from our school board school board members and are like hey these are the steps I took to become um to be on this board this is the type of things that I'm looking to do these are this is what you can do to run so that we can get really really fired up and just have different different people because it's the job of our elders to train the young people right like you have to teach us what to do so we can create the society that we deserve to live in so thank you thank you next is Mary Yang state your name your address

085and you have five minutes oh everybody's so tall okay okay let me fix this so it's my at my level let me can I just actually just hold it would that would that help yeah that might help okay all right so my name is Mary Yang I live at 364 lever Drive Green Bay Wisconsin Green Bay Board of Education members a month ago on January 22nd I had planned to speak on this topic but I had pressing obligations and to attend in Madison regarding Wisconsin State Senate Bill 240 Senate Bill 240 is an act to amend the law to direct school boards to provide instruction among American Asian-American History the current Law requires each School Board to provide instructional program designed to give pubil an understanding of human relations particularly with regards to Asian uh

086to American Indians black Americans and Hispanic uh Americans this bill would direct the Wisconsin school boards to add M and Asian-American History to the current to the current curriculum for an understanding of human human relations this bill was added last minute on the agenda as an opportunity for public hearing on in Madison on January 23rd 2024 so my speaky opportunity here was the least priority at that point but ever since June I have been here physically present or virtually present on your live stream and every month Lyn garat had presented legislative updates I assume in good faith she simply missed learning about Senate Bill 240 or assembly Bill 232 which last week it just passed the Senate the assembly Bill floor so so I sent her an update on October 23rd 2023 during a Schoolboard

087meeting when I didn't hear this as one of the legislative update I simply just asked if she had heard this bill especially because the assembly Committee of Education had just just voted unanimously on October 10th to move this bill forward to the assembly floor so again timeline October 10th the assembly committee on education had moved the bill forward and I had emailed ly Gill October 23rd I did not get a response I don't know what the criteria is for the School Board of Education to consider what's important as a legislative update but month to month after I sent Lynn my email I anticipated it would be mentioned at least once instead throughout that time other bills newly introduced at the state level were brought up but not Senate Bill 240 again to act an act

088to amend to law to direct school boards to provide instructions to M American Asian-American History this was when I realized my your dismissal of my email went hand in hand with how American student Asian-American students felt invisible currently from our AI against bullan student survey 34.9% feels unsafe at your schools no student should feel unsafe and only 48.8 % feels if they reported something it might get handled appropriately I understand your plate is full with school closures and the many task force you're creating and the updated policies the upcoming referendum and now the Dr tiller situation but that should not disqualify or M and Asian-American students to be overlooked which is why this bill was created in the first place to acknowledge the many contributions of the Mong and Asian-American people to help our students

089feel seen in schools to have history taught about them Wisconsin is the third highest state population of among people n in the United States here according to the 2020 census Brown County's um hum population is at 5,246 we beat out gaming we beat lacrosse we be oair we beat manw we be porish County even Wago but a aami county just approved appon just approved a home emersion school Steven's Point they ju they had passed a resolution through their school board to support this bill and they even Incorporated voluntarily home Asian-American studies and even have a culturally Infuse specific meals at their High School lacrosse Holman Sun Prairie oair School Board of Education they also support this bill proudly but for some reason Green Bay Public School just refused to acknowledge this legislative update I'm really

090sad by this I'm really sad as every month I come and I I talk about how our students representation and then this whole Dr till thing came up one is left to conclude that this diversity issue was intentful staying with the Dr tiller issue everything he said with my two cents was not offensive to me everything he talked about racism I have experienced myself I did not feel offended at all after I listened to that twoh hour and I just wanted the school board to postpone their Vote or vote against until the audio came out I was here in the 1 and for some reason every time I have a sliver of hope that you guys would do the right thing it keeps coming down and getting shattered please do the right thing now reinstate

091Dr tiller thank you um the next person is TJ Hobbs from ashkash good afternoon I thank you uh my name is TJ Hobs uh pronouns are they them I live in Oshkosh at 520 High Avenue but as a human in the world This concerns me um there's a number of things I want to say but first of all um we want proof of these threats alleged in the email to the Green Bay Public School District honestly guys we I think Green Bay Public School District for my perspective as someone who cares about schools and who would consider having children once I help get the world to a place where I think it's safe to bring children into it um I think Green Bay Public Schools is confusing being held accountable for being threatened when the

092community says that they're going to keep the pressure on you until you realign with your own mission statement to educate all students to be college career Community ready inspired to succeed in our diverse world that that's us reminding you to live your values how can students be ready to succeed in our diverse world if they do not see diversity represented in our schools Dr tiller is an incredible man and role model for parents and students he has a passion for helping kids succeed and Green Bay is better the school district is better under his leadership many folks today black and brown folks are specifically are now afraid of speaking out because they think you'll treat them the same way you treated Dr tiller they're not going anywhere how are folks how are we ever going

093to recruit any other black and brown leaders in this community when we rush through and pressure one of the greatest leaders Green Bay has ever known into resigning rather than working with him to over come the challenges it's been stated before Green Bay y'all have the highest black student to White student achievement Gap in the nation you must do better you need someone in the school district that can communicate with everybody that represents them so that I I have a quote from a a rabbi da Rutenberg that I think sums up what I'm trying to say we need diverse representation not only so every kid can see themselves as the hero of the story but so that every kid can understand that other kinds of kids are also the heroes of the story with a

094little bit of time I have I want to share of a story that ashkash has been experiencing recently I don't know if y'all are aware but um we have a public media run out of a city hall called Oshkosh media uh there was the host of that show is not required to invite all candidates we learned for office um but despite despite not being required to you know there's some Community concern about um how the one judicial candidate with judicial experience was not invited to speak her name was Lisha Hayes well well the two black excuse me two white men without judicial experience were invited to speak to the community out of our asash city hall so when I tell you these issues they're not they affect every city and every state and every country

095in the nation despite it all Lisha Advanced she won her primary by a landslide there is nothing that can stop y'all from running for office there is nothing that can stop y'all from sitting up here next year and you being the ones making these decisions ask for help you have Community leaders that you can reach out to that can help you learn how to run for Schoolboard and learn how to run for public office get your name on that ballot because all these people have your back thank you thank you the next person is Katherine Gage Catherine Gage oh okay St your name address and you got five minutes hi my name is C cther Gage my address is 1326 Wolverine Trail new Franken postal address but Green Bay uh good evening thanks in advance

096are listening some white people are saying that just because we are white and and I am and he Dr tiller was black doesn't mean this was racism and maybe if I was not paying close attention I would say well maybe I don't know but context is everything so consider this America has turned her back on people of color buying and selling them beating raping and killing them segregating them lynching them turning fire hoses on Peaceful protests along police to shoot at them it traffic stops and continues to do so that is the context of this story then the school board accepts what can re reasonably only be considered a forced resignation unanimously and then literally turns their backs on the leaders of three people who are the de facto representatives of black and brown people

097in our community they rightly felt disrespected and saw that they were alone no white allies had joined them for that I am sorry I did not think critically about what was happening and I didn't pay much attention and if any of you indeed did although not being able to site specifically what happened in the close session did a acknowledge them did help them to feel seen then I apologize because that's what I heard some people say we don't have all the information they the school board know may know more than we do they can't talk about what happened and that's a law and that's true and I know that what we the public do know is that the investigation happened as a result of the recording and that the district has reported and I'm paraphrasing

098liability and the question of the ability to lead were the reasons so I will address what we know calling an employee a curs word as a liability we can talk to the individual does she even want to press charges if not will she sign something that says she won't do so does it matter that it was never intended for public domain that it was part of a Facebook page to which as far as I know the person who made the video public did not belong Miss person that's the person who was spoken about in case you haven't been asked and you are listening I will ask you now will you swallow your pride for the cause of 61% of the students in the district please please tell us we want to know ability to lead

099people were concerned offended when was I offended I was listening to the recording as if it were attended for a public audience because I didn't have all the information because I was taking the easy road I was being lazy and yes I have to admit I was offended almost right away when he said yeah the people in Green Bay I'm bald I wear the bow tie they think I'm Muslim and I thought well some of the white people in Green Bay might think that but not me how dare he paint us broad bro brush I really thought that and it took a while before the irony hit me cringe it finally did and then I also recalled something I had heard as a child remove move the oh oh that went so fast do the

100right thing remove the speck no before you remove the speck from your neighbors I remove the log from your own thank you next is uh Jessica Franco okay say your name address in five minutes Jessica Franco 612 tyrolian Drive Green Bay I'm here today to request the Board of Education to reinstate Dr Claude tiller as the superintendent of the Green Bay Area Public School District I was a student in gbaps in the district miam entire prek 12 education career throughout my education career as a gbab student I encountered I encountered some incredibly talented Educators throughout my educational career I had the opportunity to participate in extracurricular activities including being the president of the in City student council and serving as a student representative on the board of education that you all are a part of

101tonight I am sharing this because by these measures you could say I had a positive experience as a gbap student and while I can say I took advantage of educational opportunities I'd be remiss if I didn't acknowledge the void that I experienced by not having one black or brown teacher coach counselor or advisor what that experience looks like and feels like is knowing that I was not safe it was not safe for me as a student to show up as my full authentic and complex self there was no room for me to question the white cultural norms that made up almost every single facet of my educational environment and experience the opportunities to proudly and authentically celebrate my cultural heritage and identity were rare almost always poorly funded like an ad hoc experience not embedded

102in the daytoday I want better for our students our students today deserve better after graduating from college I began my professional career doing some work within the district what was obvious was that our student population had gotten increasingly diverse and I have observed some progress with a diversification of staff the culture and climate of the day-to-day hadn't changed much however I felt the biggest sense of hope and progress when I learned that the Board of Education had selected Dr Claude tiller as the first black superintendent of the district it didn't take long for me to see and hear about the positive change Dr tiller was making and had planned for a community and students particularly our black indigenous and students of color then the events of the past last few weeks unfolded I watched the

103same governing body that appointed Dr tiller and all he represented snatched the opportunity for Progress away from my fellow community members and most importantly our students whose lives he was set to have a positive impact on and yes I say snatch because that's what it felt like the most devastating and disappointing blow is the way that the board of education has handled the situation you failed to follow your own Protocols of ensuring and I quote due process and respect for individual rights unquote these are words listed right on your agenda uh when you allowed Ed dworf to disrespect Dr tiller by misrepresent representing comments that were allegedly said out of all people Ed dorf a former Green Bay Area Public School principal and a former member of the Board of Education should be well aware

104of the of how to bring a concern of this magnitude to the board Ed dorf lacked the C to address his alleged concerns and the board failed to ensure due process and respect for Dr tiller's individual rights the board has an opportunity to make uh this right you have an opportunity to live by the prepared mission and vision of the school district and acknowledge and reinstate a leader whose knowledge experience and um skills deeply positively impact the students of our district you have an opportunity to do by is right what is right by our students in this community and reinstate Dr Claude tiller as the superintendent of the Green Bay Area Public Schools thank you thank you um next is Stephanie Guzman my name is Stephanie Guzman uh my address is 2711 melore Drive I

105actually don't even feel safe sharing that because just for spaying my my opinion on the media the quietness of this board has allowed for people outside that are your color skin to think that it's okay to call us agitators racists col us people who are just angry Latinos and oh my favorite one that you guys are threatened by our presence because honestly other than that threat of us just speaking our truth I don't see what other threat there possibly was so I need to say that after that I will also start with facts because honestly that's the reason we're here right because somebody named ed dorf decided to come here and spit facts but that was just a bunch of BS all right here we go I want to say thank you to people that

106stayed behind when we found out what happened to tiller I want to say thank you because you know it takes guts to sit here when we were feeling that pain and again because it's not just about tiller guys that's the problem it's about it's about color it's about racism right and so the three people I give you my hats off really really quickly uh Lyn girl like regardless of everything else I respect you for staying I do not respect the fact that Mr Brian this one and that one did not stay I respect that Becker State and you know who else I respect that state Laura Warren who's no longer here who was the only person on this table that could have potentially been put a speck of color or perspective of person of color

107and so the fact that she's resigned as well guys what is the pattern we're seeing tiller resigned we got Mrs Laura resign what does that tell you all the people who want to say something different than the norm are resigning it is not cuz we're afraid it is not cuz we're lazy we're the most hardworking people there is and I don't care I will say that my parents were immigrants they came and they got paid $2 an hour to pick a berries and trust me they were able to sustain a family of four with $2 tell let me tell you about hard work all right so now that we put the facts across I also want to say I want to also give a shout out for Vicki she did Reach Out literally the next

108day that she was in this position to want to start these conversations even not not just in this situation but like an actual combo so heads off to you for doing that um I wanted I want to say that because it takes freaking Gods to do it um but with that said I also want to make sure that I don't I'm going to keep it real quiet because there was some amazing things that were said here today some educated things statistics and most of all color we had white allies we had our African-American people we have Latinos Asians who I'm so sorry cuz I do notice that every time we speak about people of color we don't mention our Asian community so that is something we need to work on us we need to work

109on and so I want to say today we already have somebody who wants to run her name's Rizzle pagero guys get to know her because she's going to be on that seat I promise you she wants it let's support it right most importantly I do want to say one thing huh our Somali families I forget come on man S I love you man matter of fact I'm going to talk about something that I never talk and it's my weaknesses because again I always get get said that I'm a hypocrite this and that you know that I'm over here talking my truths and I'm a hypocrite well here's the thing I only come speak from my perspective because I can't speak from everyone else's but I will say this there was one person on this board

110who Once Upon a Time told me that I should stick to what I'm good at and that I should just keep singing so that's exactly what I'm going to freaking do to you today I'm going to sing you a song here we go like you're ready y y Ain ready for this arur wiard guitar bro I got 20 seconds here we go I said but until the philosophy which holds One race Superior and another inferior is finally impermanent discredited and abandoned everywhere is war that until there's no longer first class and second half citizens of Any Nation until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance of the color of his eyes me say war that until that day the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regards to Grace

111there is a war and I want you to know there's going to continue to be a war but not the kind that these bigots keep saying with we don't have guns we got words and so we come to the table to you today and yes a lot of the people most of us are saying make it right make it right you keep talking Bri generational change it ain't going to come from the boundaries test words they ain't going to remember you for that they're going to remember you for this do you listen to your people then you better go ahead and offer some kind of statement and contract to Mr tiller saying I eat my pride but I want you to come back and help us period thank you next is Ilana harara Flores Ilana

112oh you're coming okay nice to see so many people in here um just look at that side of the room and look at that side of the room can you not see the difference I mean it's pretty obvious and before we forget don't forget that Washington Middle School needs a lot of repairs I think you guys let us know it needed some green space as well so we definitely are going to want that since you're not closing it right and some long-term exterior repair I think you guys want to forget let us forget or have us forget that you guys want this referendum passed and that you promised Washington Middle School some things that you still haven't given to them of the schools getting stadiums complexes instead of us getting freaking Green Space excuse my

113French oh thank you um next is Linda P py psky I'm Linda psky 5252 Norway Drive palas can you talk a little bit more into the kki 54162 and d paty one of my seven grandchildren is a student in the Green Bay Public Schools and among my four adult children two daughters are teachers in different districts I have a daughter-in-law who teaches art in Milwaukee Milwaukee Public School District uh the quote on my calendar today words have power to to hurt and heal words are the way we meet one another and share our thoughts and hearts today is National set a good example day I was in attendance that Saturday's meeting I listened and learned learned a lot and I have to say there is so much intelligence and articulation and empowerment in this room

114I am going home so inspired and so amazed thank you I am a woman of white privilege now in my Elder years just now learning how to acknowledge that and only beginning to learn how to understand how to understand that and all the negative consequences that that particular mindset has had within cultures and societies all over the world including the United States of America the long history of white privilege white supremacy and white middle to upper class male domination has much to teach us lest we repeat to too many of the same mistakes and find ourselves passing on a way of life to our children that is filled with prejudice discrimination far too much ignorance arrogance and violence I might have had a head start on some of this as I grew up in the

115middle of the onid reservation in the 50s and 60s with the consequences of racism oppression and poverty and all the stigmas that go with these all around me I was gifted however with my very first school experience gifting me with an onid woman Mrs Maryanne skidor was my first grade teacher she was incredible what an exceptional role model she cared about each and every one of us Onida and white all together giving each one the time and attention each one needed and deser deserved and giving me the most fun job of helping her I do believe Miss skidor was the person who inspired in me my lifetime Des desire to be a helper for that is who she told me I was and she said it with full sincerity and appreciation I am the Linda

116who sent the email message to all the board members and others to view the 60 Minute true film and true story of how Progressive Kaka high school was in their exchange of students with King High School in Milwaukee and the making of a play in White America this was in 1967 in the midst of the Civil Rights Movement it's available on PBS look up PBS it's called the it's um it anyway look on PBS you'll find it it aired last night it's going to air again but it's a true story we can learn from kakana high school we can learn from kakana school district we have that ability to turn this around for the sake of our children to see we can follow the true example of Dr Martin Luther King who had no hatred

117he had no hatred in his heart for anyone but he hated oppression he hated Injustice he hated the poverty he that that it led to suffering he hated that he did not hate the people this group has the power to help you turn it around thank you next is Kyle cropsy Kyle cropsy uh my name is Kyle cropsy and I live at 1109 St St George Street I'm a proud Green Bay East alumni and I'm the CEO founder of rise up Athletics um rise up Athletics I started in two uh 2023 to help bridge the gap with Athletics in the Green Bay uh East District um I got the opportunity to meet with Dr tiller numerous times about sports in our community uh he was a big advocate of Youth Sports and knew the importance

118of it uh even to the point he was going to help sponsor the new Green Bay Youth Football Association that was going to help me not only start football good football programs for the East kids but for Preble west and southwest uh he told me to get a 10-year budget for him which I did uh only to find out the day it got done uh that he was under investigation uh and it broke my heart Dr tillor uh when I was working at Sullivan one day uh sub he was there uh with the kids hanging out uh he was just awesome he was at our homecoming game against West he was uh at the East West game he just really supported everything that we wanted to do with Athletics I feel the district has really

119shied away from the Athletics part um as you can tell our high schools have won a combined two games last year and that was West and prev beaten Southwest um so we really I support Andor getting reinstated I also support coach Nico back there uh coaching our boys at Green Bay East I support him he needs to be back in our school with our kids with our players him working here does us no good uh with that being said I just want to thank you guys for the time I wasn't preparing to speak tonight but I felt obligated to I missed the last two meetings uh due to work um I just want to support everyone in the building who's been supporting me with rise up we got a lot of family members here we

120got little Dennis tenant Jr back there who played on one of our basketball teams um so thanks guys uh for all the support and that's all I got to say thank you um next is Natalie Huffman hi my name is Natalie Hoffman uh my I live at 559 Rocky Street Apartment 9 in Green Bay so I've been reading a lot about what's been going on with the situation with Claude tiller over the past couple weeks and um I went to the community meeting over the weekend and I'm really glad I did because it shed light on just how damaging this situation has been to our local black and brown Community it's been damaging there's so much hurt here over what happened and if we are ever to truly see a a truly Equitable Society we

121as white people need to not just listen to the black and brown people when they say they've been harmed but also I lost my place sorry but to do something to rectify what happened especially when you're the ones that caused the harm what happened here was unjust this process happened too quickly and without Community input or transparency and the Board needs to be held accountable for that Dr tiller he should still be Green Bay superintendent and I I think you all need to reinstate him and make this right and with extra time that I do have um I'm going to read a statement from my friend Gloria Eastman who was um here earlier but they needed to email their statement to the board and received an auto reply making it sound like the board wouldn't

122read uh the comment for weeks uh so I just wanted to make sure that um y'all heard this now um uh Gloria Eastman said uh I'm commenting today because I believe that Dr tiller is being more harshly judged based on his skin color I do not believe that any of the comments he made either on the air on the radio show nor in the off a moments live stream are worth this level of discipline all of his comments in my personal opinion were justifiable even if not all of them were perfectly professional I I believe this conversation has been lacking in cultural competency which is ironically exactly what the conversation on that radio show was about ensuring our city and our Ed education system is able to offer a culturally competent Equitable experience to bipac

123folks I ask that the board extends an offer to reinstate Dr tiller thanks for your time yeah next is h no hante Harry Shante sorry okay my name is hashan Perry I'm a senior at Preble High School I've been living in Green Bay for 12 years since I was 5 years old and I've never felt welcome nor have I ever felt at home I'm leaving Green Bay and going to a historically black institution College Unity also known as a HBCU when Dr tiller came into Preble High School I had the honor to shake his hand and hear his story I was so delighted and happy to see someone that looks just like me in power when that man walked into that room you could feel his energy and for me it was something empowering and

124for some it was something intimidating what are y'all scared of huh I have two younger siblings that are unfortunately G going to have to go through the things that I have went through and I'm not only speaking for myself I'm moving on with my life I'm leaving but I'm speaking for them I'm speaking for my parents and I'm speaking for y'all I can't even put everything that I went through in five minutes I could write a whole book I could write several books I could record a TV show so I could okay well yeah it it's it's been a lot and I know y'all can all identify with me and when I saw Dr tiller and I heard his story he made me proud he made me feel proud from where I came from and

125I could identify with him and y'all need to reinstate him because I'm not just speaking for myself I'm speaking for my siblings I'm grown now I'm leaving this is their future they don't deserve to go through the stuff that I went through they deserve the world but I can't get them that thank you next is Rosita Jackson inos because I've been waiting for for this hi Andrew did you tell them about the email I sent you oh yeah I thought my mouth was big enough Andrew did you tell them about the email I sent you oh let me let me do the the one concession I will make to yah's little control issues my name is Rosita lay maawa chiah Jackson enus my address is 1900 moral Street Green Bay Wisconsin 54302 I am the

12664y old grandmother and great grandmother of children who are of Mis ethnicity because y'all haven't figured out yet that everybody's just human okay I have obviously black Turtle Clan Onida Anish naab Scottish Irish Swiss German and Dutch so I am quite qualified to tell y'all y'all Lily white and it's not an act of disrespect to tell the truth it's an act of disrespect to keep telling people they don't have to tell the truth or to try to punish them for telling the truth not my thing I have been standing up against people like y'all since I was 11 years old you see this face me at 64 baby you know why don't you want to know why I think they afraid to know why because Li are for the weak-minded they are for you to

127hide a character defect that you're afraid to heal and repair we have wasted and I do mean wasted I'm talking about my elders their Elders everybody's Elders y'all have wasted more patience than you should have ever had it is not anybody's job to teach you to how to be a decent human being yet here we are again see y'all think some of us don't know no I still remember when you whitewashed burn Taylor's mural off Washington Middle School do you do you nobody got anything to say or you want to go on your little close session and talk about me behind my back that's y'all's way see we're coming to you straightforward I personally don't care how you you feel about a damn thing what I do care about is 15 grandchildren and two great

128grandchildren that are not gonna have to put up with this bull crap see I'm polite that y'all keep putting down you know why because they get educated at home they get prepared to deal with all the misdirection and lies and evasiveness Flatout snaky stuff snake Slither honey I got too much Hawk and Eagle in my blood and let me tell you what that means an eagle's favorite thing to do is to stand there and watch a snake Slither up because Hawks and Eagles have scales on their legs from the knees down they bite just like y'all do little bites little bites trying to inject poison and then they get fed up with it and bite the thing's head off and watch the body flop around I'm not threatening you I'm actually hoping that there is

129still enough genuine humanness in you to where your egos or your insecurities or your fears are not going to keep screwing up generations of other people's children and I think that's what everybody in this room wants I don't play favorites as far as skin color honey my kids range from deep chocolate brown like this beautiful brother here to a a one that's got your color hair and your color eyes so we don't do that crap and y'all shouldn't be doing it either it's pathetic to have to explain to Gran excuse me I'm getting ready to cuss y'all do I have permission to grown adults stuff that you already know and if you don't have the courage to do it yourselves fine admit it okay we have three more speakers left there we go sorry we

130we got a few more um three four five six seven eight more I just want to let you know that if you if you're still thinking about it there's still time to fill out a form and get it to Kenzie next is Kyle [Music] Armstrong Kyle Armstrong Kyle Armstrong okay I think maybe they've they're not here so moving on to Phillip it's either it's Ross or hos Ross oh hi yeah I often find it conflicting when first coming up here to actually look at all of you because I had the personal chance to Shadow the superintendent for the day if many of you do not know that I was the first student to do that within our district and when I did do that I was also I was often met with CR CR I

131was often met with critique as people wondered whether I was qualified to even be shadowing the superintendent I as well as find it hard to face a lot of you and conflicted because I'm faced with a matter of community over my own professionalism as later on two weeks from now I have to go and face these people as I'm also a part of the Strategic the Strategic strategic board meeting group and with that comes the planning and the information that we give the board to to put forward for your children and what your children will have coming forward with with that being said I also find it very conflicting to actually uphold that as how will I be able to face all you later as there will not be a backing of the people behind

132me and with that being said if Dr till is not reinstated I will also resign from that position as I find it hard to say you listen to the community when I will have to go up here again and voice what the community is saying through a strategic meeting to which has to be followed to the te and so with with that also being said I believe a lot of people did not come to me to understand what it was like shadowing Dr tiller I although I was met with backlash of my opinion about what he said a lot of people didn't ask me how it was when I first met Dr tiller I was actually very critique of his character I wanted to know was he just another black man hiding behind white shadows

133who was Dr tiller when I first met Dr tiller I was very upfront with him I asked him his opinion on critical race Theory I asked him what he believed to be right I wanted to I was testing his qualifications to is he truly is he truly someone I can say represented me and with that being said I I was able to come to not only that consist that concise decision but as well as enforce what he stood for as I was able to go into I was I'm G give you the best example I could give when we went to I believe Fort Howard to read to the children I remember he was talking to the principal to uh he was talking about something I do not regard what it was but we were

134just walking through the halls and I remember clear's day a little black kid couldn't been old eight ran up to him and was like who are you why are you here what are you doing here and and he stopped he stopped his entire conversation and he was like I'm the superintendent and my job is to make sure that everyone in this District loves education and one day you can be in my shoes and I was very inspired by that not only because he was able to inspire that child but he stopped his conversation he stopped his professionalism to pass on his word to someone who was younger than him and that showed not only his character who he was as a person it was later shared with me that um that child actually had problems

135at home and had a rough upbringing and wouldn't go to class and I I think that's astonishing how Dr tiller can impact someone who didn't know anything or came at him in a manner that most people wouldn't just because of his title it shows how a title can hold one standard but we are all human at the end of the day and I believe when looking at that you guys did go in you at when looking at that you guys looked at a personal conversation to which I believe in every single one of our personal conversations we've ever had we have not said the most politically correct things and I think when looking at that how can you state something to which it was meant to be private and resume it to be public although

136it did become public its original positioning was private and I believe if you were to share a message between your significant other I promise you it's probably talking something about one person you work with I promise it and so with that and so with that being said I would like to say that I am blessed to have the position to not only represent Latin and black people but also be the first student to represent uh Green Bay as a district and its ethnic backing and I believe everything Dr till said was true as I've looked at the stats within his office we do have we do have a significant disparity between white Educators and white students while looking at the um disparity between black children and he asked me the reason for this and that's

137the reason I'm on that meeting board now to actually change and give color to that and I believe with that being said it should be important to not only reinstate him but give him an opportunity to voice why he said what he said to the community I believe even when talking even when talking to many of my teachers who are white or who he was talking about they believed that although what he said can be harsh they just wanted understanding of why he said it and I believe it's so hard to to many people even on the news to understand why he said what he said sorry we turn that off I'm keep talking for like two seconds I promise and so and so with that being said it's often hard for people to even

138look at these statistics but when I I understand that every single one of you have looked at the exact same St statistics that I have because we all had them in front of us when presenting them so I understand that you know what he said was correct whether you want to admit it or not every single one of us had had these statistics and it's googleable so I believe personally that he should be reinstated because what he said although may be harsh it was not wrong thank you next is graia V Royale thank you uh I'm Gracia Vel and I'm a political science professor and also a member of several Latino organizations and the community I live in 9 927 Oakmont Court and my children went to the Green Bay Public Schools um I just

139want to say that I stand here after a year in which we last year we complained about uh schema 12.1 and it's really about representation because schema 12.1 came uh about without representation from black and brown communities and what happens when there's no representation in a district that is 2/3 black and brown schema 12.1 proposed uh two more kr8 schools in majority White School uh districts even though they already had three KR rates in majority white districts so five and there's not a single kr8 in black and brown neighborhoods it also proposed to close Washington even though Edison is already overcrowded and the black and brown Community has grown by 300% since in the last two decades so why close those schools why close those schools When the Children already have the older schools the

140overcrowded schools the larger schools no representation why those schools um so I want to say that when Dr tiller was going to come we were really excited because uh the first thing he did is he said we'll I'll meet with you every month so he gave us a seat at the table Dr tiller's short but very influential time in Green Bay has very positively affected our community he spearheaded unprecedented representation invisibility for marginalized groups long excluded from District leadership families of color and white allies finally witnessed one of their own leading a district where over 61% of students identify as black or brown he brought long silenced voices directly into decision-making circles and conversations even more significantly Dr tiller moved rapidly to address systemi inequities that no prior superintendent had confronted so explicitly his leadership

141style involved developing High Community Partnerships in an effort to surpass ongoing disparities in the district this Hands-On collaborative approach brought hope to our communities accustomed to empty rhetoric about racial Justice bilingual programs diversity etc etc the Atlanta interview contain what some have considered very controversial quotes but there that were in no way designed for public consumption um however the fulllength video revealed far greater Nuance in context of two Professionals of color engaged in a Frank and passionate truth-telling about ongoing struggles that people have experienced throughout centuries the conversation was designed to elevate these experiences during black history month so what did they say getting to the decision-making authorities as minorities required resilience they said surmounting endless micro and macroaggressions Dr tiller and Dr Dr Adrian spoke in a very personal manner about harnessing righteous anger

142over Injustice to lead future Generations by upholding standards and dismantling barriers for marginalized children their own hardship could lay Foundation easing the success of those who would follow them Dr lailler said that his pathway had already made life easier for his daughter throughout the conversation Dr tiller emphasized his work in Green Bay as a calling to become a voice for the voiceless his statements uh are echoed in DPI statistics about Wisconsin's worst in the nation achievement disparities the acknowledgement by DPI underscores why aggressively targeting systemic inequities is essential in our district those who had the opportunity to have conversations with Dr tiller during his time in Green Bay know that he was adopting a multi- tonged approach where he was talking about mentorship curriculum testing discipline staff makeup and more understanding that no single solution

143exist in isolation still the interview left no doubt that Dr tiller remain advocating for the children in this District when discussing District needs Dr tiller praised the Excellence of his cabinet he said they were excellent but that was not reported he said he found enthusiastic buyin from his Deputy superintendent and Associate superintendent and instructed them to show principal teachers and students that they that they truly care for them by being present he himself visited three schools each day so that they that they would he also would be present for his students he also voiced confidence that given the high standards and support that underestimated students can dramatically outperform them that they should have very high expectations for children he shared a beautiful metaphor a broken crayon can still color he captured his belief that it

144is our failure of imagination that limit student potential not their lack of ability a broken crayon can still color un heard Dr tiller knows progress demands expanding what we envisioned possible um so I just want to say to finish this that I will end uh the way it this was ended a few weeks ago our students and staff in our communities deserve to be respected trusted and treated with positive regard by District leadership how you the board ultimately handle this matter will be a test to your character and your moral courage and it will be written in the history books next is Kristen Kristen Kelly from manasha Kristen Kelly okay first I wanted to introduce myself I'm Kristen Kelly I reside at 2050 East Plank Road in manasha and I am the co-founder and executive

145director of people of progression which is a black Le organization serving Winnebago and out of gaming counties I'm also a a very concerned Community member who grew up in a neighboring school district and I learned through abuse and experiences as a child that silen was better than speaking up for myself and I don't want other students to go through the same thing that I did as a child so I'm here to use my story to share what happens when there's a lack of competent leadership and cultural representation guiding and advocating for policies and strategies to address systemic inequities affecting students I'm speaking from the perspective of my own a multi-racial biracial as well as transracial adopted family member out of a white family and a white community in a neighboring School District where no one

146else looked like me all the way from K through 12 I'll start by saying that I was and I can't go through my whole story because God it's traumatic but I can say that I was from first grade already put on the opposite side of the classro as other students I was targeted as the person who I was always the one was doing wrong in the class although I was being called racial slurs I don't know how at first grade white students know how to treat people that look like us in that way but I was already being treated by the teacher of the classroom to be targeted and put on the other side of the classroom because I was the one who was creating a problem when I would lash out and try to

147speak up for myself and because I come from a white family who I know is well-intentioned but because they didn't know understand my experiences they also didn't know how to advocate for me I will say that when I was in the third grade I had one black teacher and at that time Mr Montes he helped me exceed expectations he taught me that I was loved and beloved in the community as well as enhancing my musical performance solo Ensemble and I went to competitions already in the third grade after that right away years the next year I was already being targeted Again by teachers he left the school district I would love to know why it might be like something here today we never heard of him again so to keep going with my story by

148the time that I went to high school I already knew what silence was for me I never advocated for myself I didn't know that racism even was something that I was EXP experiencing because nobody told me about it if there was representation when I was going through my entire School career or somebody there to advocate for people who look like me and have adopted families don't have representation from black fathers in our households somebody like Dr tiller would have been looking out for us and advocating for policies that would enhance the lives of our students instead we watch students like me have assault in the in classrooms as well as hallways teachers don't stand up for us they see it and look away because they're afraid of speaking about it because they're afraid of being

149reprimanded having to resign themselves whether black white or whoever they are and and that but I am speaking from a perspective of somebody that's not silenced any longer and I'm also sick and tired of Grassroots organizations having to put the pieces of our mental health of our communities back together and having to do it out of the traumatic experiences and pain that we experienced we're supposed to be able to look to you for support who was there what school board was there for someone like me and are you going to be there for someone who looks like me today in the school district that you are here to protect and serve with policies that protect our students each one of you should be finding the Allies on your board after this meeting and say I

150think that we need to reinstate Dr tiller and what other ones on this board also want to reinstate Dr tiller and y'all need to start conglomerating together and finding your allies and get Dr tiller back in here to change the most racially despar state in this nation as the nation's top ranked for worst state for black people to exist in thank thank you next is Rick cron or cren Cron okay thank you ma'am I um it's all been said they want him back and I had a whole lot to say but what I'm going to say is what if he comes back what are you g to do what's he gonna do does he want to come back has anybody asked him has he packed up he wants to come back all right so if

151he comes back then what I'm about talking about future you guys have already made black history this month by the first black man first black man who is appointed superintendent resigned you are in the history books so how's that feel so my thing is what if he comes back what's the next step I'm all about helping and I and not oh my name is Rick Crossing 2869 Sussex Road Green Bay Wisconsin I've been here for 20 how old is my daughter she's 21 I've been here for 22 years my daughter's a Green Bay girl she's a black girl who who was born in Green Bay her black experience is totally different than other people who happen to be black it's a conversation she and I had when she went to school she goes to W

152uh Stevens Point of which I'm a member of their business advisory Council I have also been Chief Operating Officer of a large trucking company and also what brought me here was a large organization here Schneider National so I I I've been here a while I I'm more angry at myself than about the situation because I have reached out to people in senior executive positions the current Chancellor of University of Wisconsin Stevens Point uh another gentleman who was here at wgb who's now since gone on to be the chancellor W Whitewater um I met I know those guys black gentl both of them I reached out I offered my help my services to them to help them navigate the realities of this of this this place I love Green Bay Wisconsin personally I tell everybody the

153rest of America would love to be like Green Bay Wisconsin if it could and and for those people and and by the way I came here from Atlanta Georgia where that Radio podcast was held part of the reason I'm up here is because I didn't like things were going on in Atlanta Georgia it it has has this external perception but some internal realities that are not that flattering so coming up here was great I love it here but it's got its problem I'm still when they see me they lock their car doors they are holding their bags when they uh when I get on the elevator like I I don't have the time and energy to rob you between the first and the fifth floor so but but what I'm telling you is there are

154issues and if we if we come at it from the from the notion of diversity is not just some of us diversity is the sum of all of us and I wrote that as part of the diversity statement for the University of Wisconsin Stevens Point uh because they're having the same kinds of conversation and and and the internal challenge to you is what are you doing to make this school this this school district this city the primary choice for every highquality black educator in this country because guess what all of those highquality black Educators they got options they can be anywhere they want why would they come to Green Bay Wisconsin is your question so that's an internal it's an internally focused question and challenge that will come up with a whole list of things

155that you got to do to make this place attractive to those types of quality Educators I'm angry at myself because I didn't reach out to to Dr tiller I I just started getting into this that's why I'm shabbily dressed because I I said I got to go down here and talk to these people and offer myself to him if he comes back I can help him navigate the realities of Green Bay Wisconsin in a very objective manner there's some great things there's some middle of the road things there's some not so great things there's some passive things there's this misconception about race and cast systems that it doesn't matter an economic divide because trust me not all black people are unified we can sometimes be our own worst enemies and and so you got to

156know and if and and if so if he comes back how do we navigate those things and and I'm all about action and quantifiable things I'm sorry I got a couple more things the other thing is what if he doesn't come back if he doesn't come back what are you GNA do all right is this gonna be the last black man we ever see here or are you going to get somebody else that fits some Loosely defined Narrative of diversity and put that person in there and but because they can conform to what you what you want you're going to you're going to prop that person up as a diversity hire I've seen that happen around here so you gotta you got to and then again I offer myself here put help let us let

157some of us help you with the hiring process if you have to go find someone else I offer myself to do that and I'm sure there's some other folks that would like that too that's what I'm saying so there's a twofold question if he comes back and if he doesn't come back we got to have a plan for both that's it thank you thank you uh next is secure Chism Chism I thought that I wanted to be the last one but I almost got sleepy are you still recording my name is Shakira Chisum I live at 2922 Packerland Drive Green Bay Wisconsin 54313 for those of you who don't know that's the the peer District are we still recording okay okay I'm hoping and praying that Green Bay I'm sorry the pier School Board is

158watching this meeting the only thing that I am sorry about is that all the surrounding school districts were not here today this is not only in Green Bay that this is happening it's the surrounding areas also the community said enough for me so the next the pier School District board meeting we will be there it is time for a change that's all I gotta say thank you next is um Ella Carroll hi I'm Ella I go to all the Leupold community community school at 853 Kellog Street so I'm only 12 years old and I'm kind of annoyed that I have to teach a ton of adults to be nice to people how how does that work I'm really upset right now you just had to be nice to him and you know history has its

159eyes on you like what you do affects our future as students I can see my future burning in front of my eyes right now as you make these decisions we're supposed to be College ready I cry every day at school I hated in this District so much you know this like there's a lot of things we could do too like even the kids are just mean to each other and none of the teachers do anything about it and I try really hard to be nice to people but sometimes it's so hard cuz people are so mean you just have to bring back Mr tiller because I didn't even know about any of the other superintendant they never cared about anyone they didn't care about me they cared about money in politics I never knew anyone

160before Dr tayor and at first I heard that we were getting a new superintendent and I was just prepared for it to suck again and then he sent us all the video about School attendance to all the kids and I was like finally there's going to be someone who tries to solve problems instead of just gaslighting everyone in this dumb school district and then you steal him from us I I was prepared to have someone new someone good and then you steal him away you literally took candy from babies like this is the perfect explanation I was happy what are you g to tell your grandbabies and kids when they ask why does my school suck so much you're going to have to say oh CU of me sweetie because I took away the good

161superintendent and gave you a bad one I'm done that's thank you the next person is Paul B berer hi uh my name is my name is Paul busher I live at 1120 Elizabeth um I want to thank you guys for just taking the brunt of the force um I know you're all good people I've met everyone I know white but that's not a crime um okay um there lot of people talking about voting how do you get how do you get into um how do you run for office each December you need to get 100 go talk to Cel celese Jeff she can get you all hooked up you can all run if you want they would love to run against you and talk about the issues they're here because they're the best candidates available

162you guys didn't run so run thank you thank you um the next person I I think it's Sarah um sorry I can't make out the LA is that I didn't write it you're right I didn't write my last name um and I'm just going to go by Sarah no last name no address I don't feel comfortable sharing that because I'm actually a district employee as well as a parent with this district and each time that I need to advocate for my children of color in my classroom for my own children of color people of color in this District who I see are discriminated against I am generally met with retaliation and resistance as opposed to being heard and I'm going to tell I've worked with this district for 7even years seven years in this District

163my I've been a parent for over 20 years in this District okay my first son he looks like me he looks like you I can tell you I got him through all 12 years with no issues like I have with the children that I am trying to get through your District currently my children of of color have faced so much discrimination that my oldest son did not experience because he looks like us I'll claim it but my other children also deserve an equal education they also deserve people in their school that look like them and what I have he what I have seen and experienced historically when you get people of color in the district who are working well with these students they are p out most recently Nico most very recently Mr Nico I

164have known this man over a decade my children adore him all the way down to my youngest who is seven who is basically the the the the little sister of the football team when I a single mother needed to work my part-time job during the summer Nico said I don't want you to have to miss out of work she can come I will take care of your boys I will because we are a family and that's what we do and I'm also going to say that in seven months Dr tiller heard me more than this district has heard me in seven years he has allowed me to be very transparent in my conversations I'm sorry I'm yelling I'm just trying to keep people awake because it kind of looked like people were falling asleep and

165we're trying to have a beting here just saying okay I know I'm fine with that but here's my issue I read that some District employees came forward and begged Dr tiller not to go please do not resign you came into this district and gave voices to the voiceless and that is accurate that is absolutely accurate he was he was in the schools I don't see people coming out of this do coming into our schools you don't come into our classroom rooms you don't see what we deal with every single day you don't go see what these kids deal with in their schools and he did he did and he didn't have to he chose to what did somebody say he went into like two schools a day can you guys can other people in this

166doob come out like why is he the only one making a conscious decision to actually get in the schools and see where the help is needed why is he literally the only one and now he's gone and nobody sees a problem with that but the people standing behind me and and and what like this pittion came out like a couple days ago there's over a thousand like like signatures does that not resonate with you so my concern is I have one going to be a senior next year I have one going into a junior but I got I got one going to third grade next year what am I supposed to do with her she is a full she is two full great grade levels behind in her reading do you know what I did

167as a mom I went to the school and I said I think she needs to be evaluated do you understand what they told me just wait don't get her extra help just let her fall further behind you know what they tell me when my boys get in trouble at school oh let's go get the school resource officer let's just criminalize your children let's just go ahead and refer them to the court because that's just great right because these children can't make mistakes they're not learning right but the teachers can talk any type of way because I've seen it the the the the admin staff they can sit in their little offices and they can come out and they could talk to parents and teachers any type of way students any type of way but that's

168okay right but you expect these children to come just be little cookie cutter soldiers and just be like little perfect people even though they are the children we are the teachers we are supposed to be teaching them and growing them up we're not we are legitimately failing children I see this with my own children I see this with the children in my class classroom I see this from Head Start all the way up to high school we are legitimately failing the children and the one man that came in and said let me come in and make some change where is he now over some Mis Mis misquotes he didn't lie what he said was not inaccurate I can speak to the fact that there are teachers in this district there are there are staff in

169this District who not do not even try to connect with these students or their families I've walked into meeting and people in the do you look terrified these are your families these are the these are the children and the families of the district that you choose to work for so I said all that to say that I do not feel comfortable always speaking as a parent well I do as a parent because I will always speak for my own children but as a district employee I do sometimes feel that I cannot speak as freely as I should be able to speak and when Dr tiller was our superintendent I felt like I could now I'm worried do you see I'm last I was last for a reason because I really really really hesitated but now

170I feel like I said enough reinstate Dr tiller we need him in this District get Nico out of that office in this that is a waste of his talents period thank you next is next is uh R Amaro Amaro hi um Rosio amatoo and I live at 321 bopr Street Green Bay Wisconsin 54301 first you know thank you for it's late so we thank you for your time um I just want to kind of first start from experience so I grew up in Texas and at that time I was the majority um South Texas so 98% 99% we were mainly Latinos U mexican-americans and at that time I never really um experienced um Prejudice or racism my mom decided to move to Green Bay um when I finished high school so I went to wgb

171for my um college and that was my first time that I was now the minority and it was so weird because never before did I thought IID experienced racism when I went living here I remember um my brothers and sisters telling me that they were experiencing racism and I'm like I thought maybe it was like my size you're like oh maybe because I'm too short that's what they're laughing at right but you know I never really thought about that back in green um in bronzville Texas where I grew there was one girl she was white and I remember that she was being bullied she was being um uh I feel bad for her and never ever experience that now living here I even my kids I one two I had six kids now two are

172grown up but they came to Green Bay all their entire years now they graduated but every time I say that we they that they need to make sure that they come together with Caucasians I don't like to use people of color because we all have colors we are each one of us have their own unique color um so I always like you know we even even at church even wherever we go my two oldest do not like to be with Caucasians and I say and I don't and I'm a little bit different you know I you know we I'm more like let's get together you know in the eyes of God we're the same I want to make sure that they feel that they have they are no different than anyone else but then they

173have this mentality but then I have never been in their shoes because I grew up where I was the majority and they went to school here where they were the minority they were treated different so in that aspect I never really realized until now and now I just want to say this that sometimes things happen for reason this God allowed this to happen in order for your voices to be heard to my voice to be heard because if this would not have happened we would not have been here today they would not have heard maybe what we have all have experienced so our voices would have never ever have been heard so I just want to say that this just God meant it to be and now it's about what's going to happen right Jesus

174I just want to say this right there is no difference and yes we make mistakes when first I heard the video with dorf is it I wanted to be more like I I'm about just being fair and being kind of like open so at first when I heard his comments my own personal thought was like oh if no I was like well if I was tiller I would resign that was my first because I'm like but when I listen to the interview now you have to look at like it's the context right and the experiences that we have and sometimes people think about stuff but they really never say it um so it's about what we have lived now someone that has lived with speaking and sometimes sometimes there's sometimes there's things that sometimes we

175don't feel you know and a lot of people here say that we don't feel the courage to speak we are afraid and sometimes it takes people just to open and just say what they think and come together okay um the final person tonight is I think it's Kelly Del delvo delvo hi I'm Kelly delvo I did not plan on speaking tonight um I live on L Avenue I was a teacher in this district for 18 years when I started in 1994 yes I'm old um our district was majority white and I'll tell you I taught at that time what was called EBD emotion behavioral disabilities that's what I taught the whole time high school middle school elementary school self contained in my years in the district my classroom demographics were mostly black and brown boys

176my classroom of 13 students and I have someone here who can attest to that I had two white boys a white girl and the rest were black and brown boys which did not reflect in any way the percentages of our community the demographics of it that is because we as a district this piece has not changed it is still all the white people in charge and they don't have the ability or the willingness quite honestly because whoever said they were targeted for speaking up yeah um Bullseye right here because I called people out and I was actually told at one point that I was holding my students too accountable because we needed graduation rates because EBD have the lowest graduation rates and we needed better rates so I needed to just sit back and pass

177them through okay yeah and so once they got past me and didn't have me that did happen in other classrooms absolutely no because it was easy and this district has a history I am sorry it is true of targeting good teachers or staff who speak out I had it happen and what I told by do o there's nothing we can do we know he's targeting you why don't you just transfer schools bidding is coming up in April to another school okay I also have four boys they're all adults now and they went through this system and my kids my two youngest have special needs dyslexia disg graphia ADHD traumatic brain injury they're just they're fun little kids they're all over the board and as a teacher in this District advocating as a parent for my

178children I was told by one sixth grade teacher that I needed to put my son on medication and if I chose not to there was nothing they could do for him um one of my children was denied special education because I worked with him too much so he wasn't the full two years behind and by the way dyslexia is not a learning disability this district has a lot of learning to do in so many areas so many and you had someone who was coming in and holding people accountable and they didn't like it he was coming in and saying we're not pushing kids through we're going to educate them hey guess what teachers you have to teach all the kids not just the ones that fit in your little pegboard okay and so you guys

179I am so disappointed that somebody was able to come in here who used to have influence he did he was a principal I did my student teaching under him like in his school he was on the board this district is so entrenched in this is our group this is who we listen to this guy said it had to happen that way so oh we like him we're GNA follow along you guys got to break the mold you had the chance you made a mistake you owe him an apology and this community apology and we need to make this right and it starts with apologizing ing to Dr tiller it starts with reinstating him and giving him an offer that you're actually GNA back them up this time and you're not going to hang the teachers

180who care or the superintendent hairs out to dry okay okay um that concludes our public forum for tonight um we're going to move on with the rest of our agenda um should we okay all right we're GNA do five minute break thank you for coming Vicky was like I know stuck don't my no I was trying to stay low like I oh I the for do you care which one they're different problem oh thank you it was when health education oh okay yeah oh yeah you're right okay thank you for listening yes appreciate that here by the way they always have fire you than it's thank you Cindy I all right guys let's let's um let's get back let's get back at it we're still streaming okay um so we're gonna um we're GNA get

181back at our agenda here the next thing on our agenda is the legislative update and that is Lynn gerlock okay we start with two updates oh something's wrong oh go ahead Lyn so we start with two updates um of bills we were following um assembly Bill 779 has been passed by the committee on Workforce Development and economic opportunities and that is um about the apprenticeship completion award in architecture and construction and then we have Senate Bill 837 um that has been passed by the education committee that's the one about establishing the Civics program and um uh it's it has gone to the committee on rules now interestingly it is opposed by or it was opposed by um seven organizations that if you take a look at them are probably pretty important to um public school

182districts like ours um I found this information this this statement from Wisconsin Public Radio about this bill I included it in the report for you I highlighted a few things I would encourage you to read it uh we have two new bills that are I think pretty important to us the first one is uh two companion bills assembly Bill 1035 and Senate Bill 973 and this is um really important for us to understand this is if these were passed this would require a community approach to four he to four-year-old kindergarten and if you would um give me leave to explain a little bit um I had no idea what this was about and I had no idea what um four-year-old kindergarten was like in our district and I don't know am I talking to anybody

183is anybody listening to me I'm absolutely listening keep going um so anyway I had to um ask for the staff to meet with me and help me understand this so I met recently with uh David John John and Dan mberg and Jessica melor and they explained to me that we have a partial Community approach so we contract with seven entities that that provide four-year-old kindergarten and they are of course the oak Learning Center uh the YWCA and five Encompass Child Care Centers and um all of them use our curriculum so when the children finish that kindergarten they go they are ready to go right into our 5-year-old kindergarten all of the teachers are licensed by DPI and we pay um $2,900 per student per year okay that's what we have now if these bills are

184passed we will have to contract with any state licensed entity within our district that wants to provide for year-old kindergarten and um we will then have to pay each child no less than 95% of the per pupil Revenue limit we will have to provide transportation for each of those children to those places they will be able to use any state approved curriculum not necessarily ours we will not be able to say anything about the staff to child Ratio or the assessments they do and the teachers will not have to be DPI licensed and if that happens the cost now just for the cost of the students we now contract for would go up by more than 250% but we would have to license for a lot more students because there would be a lot more

185entities wanting to offer for yearold kindergarten so that's going to be pretty important that is opposed by wasby weak and the Wisconsin State reading Association and I've listed some organizations that support and then finally um we have Senate Bill 489 which um establishes a legal standard for the in for infringement on fundamental rights of parents and Guardians in schools they list 16 specific rights I've just put six of them here um just to give you a flavor of what we're talking about the parent or G Guardian has a right to determine the names and pronouns that the child will be will use at school they have a right to review instructional materials they have a right to be noticed if there's going to be any survey or evaluation that in the child's classroom that might

186reveal information about the child or the family including political affiliation or beliefs illegal antisocial self-incriminating or demeaning Behavior by someone in the family critical appraisals of individuals with whom the child or parent has a close family relationship and other things um they will have to be notified in a timely fashion if there's going to be anything controversial taught or discussed in the classroom and that will include gender identity sexual orientation racial identity structural systemic and institutional racism and more um children will have to be allowed to opt out of class or instructional materials that um do not um fit with their religious or personal convictions and the parents or Guardian will have the right to visit the child at school during school hours and there are 10 more this is opposed by 15 organizations including

187the ACLU the League of Women Voters the State Bar of Wisconsin weak and others thank you then oh I'm so sorry um go ahead Brian L I'm gonna ask you this question but it's going to go to Melissa so um it's regarding model 3 sites and just the Partnerships that we've had with Community organizations on there I know that there's um it's always been a tough area because we partner with local groups and they do a great job with us and I just want to if you could talk briefly about how we've selected those groups and kind of the process with them I hope I'm not putting you on the spot with this so so I can't speak to how we selected them because they existed before before I got here 11 years ago but

188I can tell you that all of our model 3 sites are required to have licensed teachers and um we have Partnerships with them where we provide the training they have to follow all of our requirements with respect to the curriculum they deliver our curriculum um we have a number of co-hosts and trainings for their teachers um in particular for the the oak Learning Center because the city city is the um Fiscal Agent they don't have the ability to evaluate the teachers so we have a great partnership where we provide those that oversight and that evaluation and then um there's also a number of other requirements within the law for those model four sites so it's it's not the same as a daycare center that this current legislation is proposed thank you any other questions okay

189all right we're going to move on to referendum updates we don't have this month or this meeting I should say um and so next I would uh is the consent agenda approval would someone please read the motion I'll move to approve the consent agenda as presented second okay go ahead so I mentioned um under Personnel action we have a lot of teachers is retiring I wish them well and want to thank them for their service the Green Bay School District so all right anybody go ahead Lyn I just want to say again that um it's so inspiring every month to read the list of gifts and donations it's just tremendous the generosity and the support of the community and I don't want that to go unmentioned thank you anybody else good although I wish everybody

190luck who is resigning or retiring from our school district as a board we continue to look at keeping our teachers all right anybody else wanna before we vote okay kiny online voting is now open all votes have been entered on the motion is carried with all board members voting in favor thank you next is under action items um a is purchase of hyper converged infrastructure could someone please read the motion I move that CDW be awarded the bid for the hyperon converged infrastructure in the amount of 1,1 198,199 all votes have been entered and the motion is carried with all board members voting in favor okay thank you the next is uh school security drill review approval um I don't there's not a motion here but um I think we're just approving it so yes

191um but we're voting too right go ahead Brian I move that we approve the school security drill review second okay go ahead ly yeah I'm not asking any questions I just want to tell you all that after our last meeting um um Mr caller invited me in to explain things to me and um tell me all about the different kind of drills they have and uh it was very interesting very helpful yeah I like I like talking to Mr caller too because it's a good reminder about all the things we do every day to keep children safe in our schools and our staff as well so um and he's he's always really good at I I always feel better after I talk to him so okay um kiny we'll do a Voice vote for this

192one Mills I Welch I McCoy I Becker I gerlock I motion carries okay um did it um go ahead Lyn would you answer entertain a motion at this time to um put C through Q together and consider them all as one yes is there a second second okay a discussion or questions all right eny do you need anything from us on that all right these are all just a long list of job descriptions that have been updated um a couple new ones but mostly just updated yes gerlock I Becker I McCoy I Welch I Mills I motion carries okay thank you you just so the next one is r yeah all right um so would someone read the motion for our by the way we just saved about a half an hour maybe more in

193voting so um would someone read a motion please thanks I move that the updated job description for principal as presented be approved second all right questions or discussion go ahead Brian Vicky would you be willing to briefly just remind us how this kind of updates it with us would to ask like I said David would you like to yeah let me just share uh what's reflected here briefly um and then take any other questions you have uh this position description um was updated really with two things in mind uh the work uh was completed first with the directors of school leadership along with HR and it was revised with an eye toward um predominantly instructional leadership functions of the role um many of the things in the redline copy that you'll see that have been

194displaced from there are things that are much more management oriented although there are some management components that are still in the new uh proposal that's before you today the other aspect of that description uh was to bring it in line with the actual evaluation criteria of principles so recognizing that if we're going to name what high quality principes ship looks like and we're going to evaluate against that we should actually describe the role that way um after uh creating the draft then it circulated through principal advisory committees and we got some feedback on it uh and generally it was accepted as being a better representation of the real work that principales do great thank you any other questions okay I think we're ready to take a vote keny thank you David online voting is now

195open although been entered and the motion is carried with all board members voting in favor okay next is our oh nope we just did that um s go ahead would you entertain a motion to consider s and t together I would second okay any discussion questions everybody can see okay I just no no no I'm sorry I was looking at her waiting for a queue that she was ready to go all right yep McCoy I gerlock I Mills I Welch I Becker I motion carries thank you next round to you Head Start grant extension request would someone read the motion please I move that the proposal to submit an extension of the constru construction Grant at the Head Start Learning Center has presented be approved second I actually have a question Nancy um you you've

196been you work with them all the time so um what's the status on their their construction that they were going they were going to put a new addition do you know what the what what the what's the status on I don't I've lost track of that a little bit they were waiting to put an extension on this because it's going to be coming up but yeah they just couldn't it okay all right yeah okay so nothing's started technically yet but it will after this okay very good thank you any questions or discussion kidy online voting is now open all votes have been entered and the motion is carried with all board members voting in favor okay let someone read the motion for V recommendation for Southwest ticket booth contract go ahead I move that Northeast

197Asphalt in be awarded the contract for the Southwest ticket booth project project in the amount of $443,500 as presented be approved second questions or discussion KY online voting is now open all votes have been entered and the motion is carried with all board members voting in favor next recommendation for Preble general contractor someone read the motion I move that the Mir that uh the mirin Incorporated be awarded the contract for the pral high school editions and alterations project in the amount of 10,992 as presented be approved second discussion or questions so this is a referendum project go ahead Brian I just want to clarify I think that you added an extra nine there so the amount post of 10,929 2016 okay okay all right discussion or questions YY online voting is now open all entered

198and the motion is carried with all board members voting in favor okay we're almost there guys recommendation for West High grandstand contractor would someone read the motion please I move that JW Industries LLC be awarded the contract for the West High School grand stand and Prospects project in the amounts of 1,182 th80 as presented be approved second any questions or discussion all right Kinsey online voting is now open all votes have been entered and the motion is carried with all board members voting in favor okay the final one is why sale of Southwest Frontage property for purposes of Packerland land reconstruction would someone read the motion please I move that the sale of the identified parcel at Southwest High School to the city of Green Bay for purposes of the instruction as presented be approved

199second questions or discussion go ahead yeah they decided about the sidewalk are they going to be able to get that in no or is that not decided yet no update at this time any other discussion KY online voting is now open all votes have been entered and the motion is carried with all board members voting in favor good that um completes our regular agenda we're going to convene back into close session to finish our discussion um would oh go ahead Andrew you have do you have something for agenda setting Nancy thank you Andrew um I would like for the board enclos set closed session to discuss the burns and Van Fleet report requested by the do staff we request that the author lead us through the report and the process he used in its preparation

200I don't need it to be done at the next one but I would like it to be seriously looked at soon as possible second um I don't know if that's a closed session issue um I think it's probably there's probably elements of I think it's an open it's probably has some elements of Open Session some of closed session because there's pieces of that report that you can't really talk about that don't essentially name an individual but there are also more thematic themes of the report so I think I just I think there needs to be it needs to be an agenda item probably an open and a closed agenda item I think I don't even know if if I was going to make it a motion because I heard you can't make a motion if

201you didn't have it posted so I was just saying it as a suggestion that we you know look at this I don't think you can make a motion to put something on a future agenda or or if we know it's going to be on a future agenda there perhaps isn't a need for it but if is it going to be on is it going to be on soon um I honestly I don't know exactly how to handle this so if um Melissa can you give us a little guidance on Open Session close session so this came up under the gbaps board meeting schedule is that correct so we're not this is just discussion and information so we're not posted for Action under that agenda item we can put a motion at the next board meeting

202that it be on that agenda the the issue with the burns V Fleet report is that it has already been subject to an open records request and it's already been widely disseminated in the public so the purpose of going into Clos session really no longer exists because it's already been made public and I think that it would be very difficult to argue that a discussion about a report that's already widely known to the public would should properly be held in Clos session I've I've had a few discussions with other attorneys on this just to check my own self and my own understanding and I've had agreement with that as well so this would be a this will be open session um is this I don't know that this is the work of the board I

203I'm wondering about um if this is our our superintendent or our interim superintendent gets to invite this person to to make a report about this and and meet an open session I'm more concerned about the topics being being reached than the presenter though I'm not I'm not opposed to having the person come and present them but um I'm trying to re I'm my thought of having an opportunity for both is an effort that I don't always make to I am actually looking out for people who are maybe sort of named in the report and for example I I would think there would be times that is isn't there a difference if um you know if we're debating do we agree or disagree if what something in that report is true are we not then going

204into potentially one way or another adverse discussion about somebody if it's if it is all but named the person so the exemption is under personnel and I I can't think of it off the top of my head but it has to do with some sort of allegation or action or or that the board is being asked to do something I don't know what's on the table right now with respect to that so I don't again if it's simply to discuss the report the report has been made public and so the Beed so it can be discussed in public public so how do we do that without um identifying people who work for our district people are already identified yeah but I I having having that conversation is well I I guess I would again this

205is not my place it's the board's what is the purpose of the discussion and what right so if we identify and I don't I'm not asking for that tonight but if we can identify what the purpose of the discussion is and and what the outcome is that you're looking for then I think we can more accurately address what where it should be whether closed or open session okay do you w to go ahead so in doing that like how many steps would that be and would it be you'd have to start making motions and then do you know what I'm saying I don't know what that looks like get it to be an agenda an agenda item I think yes but then what you were saying I didn't understand maybe just say it again so

206I think there has to be a better understanding at least on my part or if you don't want to talk to me the council that you use as to what the purpose of the discussion is and what the outcome is that you're looking for as part of that discussion because that's going to determine whether this is proper for a close session which is going to be hard to do given that this report has already been made public if it's simply to discuss the report well I would think that we would discuss the major concerns that the report has shown us and also I would like to know you know like I know the report kind of was like oh we can't take this report because there's no quantitative analysis and data as I understand it

207um the report writer was given Direction on how to do the prep preparation and so I think that has to be looked at as well go ahead BR I think we're going I fully support the action of it but I think that we are going farther away from the original motion and which I don't even know if we need I think we're straying with that I okay oh sorry go ahead ly um I would like to have a a discussion and have the author here for the purpose of seeing what Insight we can gain as we move forward with um leadership in our district um because as I've said to so many of you so many times it doesn't make sense to choose a leader until you know where you want and need to go

208and that would help go ahead Andrew my my concern frankly is in making sure that with limited limited time on the clock for one board member very concerned about this report and some some possibility of limited time left on the clock for another that this doesn't while there are other important critical things going on I don't want to see this fall slip away until April which under some circumstances would not be considered to be too big of a delay it's a it's about a a commitment to talking about this in March and it so you know without have if if if that's going to be in the March meeting cycle then I think the behind behind the scenes some of the discussions can happen about are parts of it closed are parts of it not

209closed we have the presenter but I I guess I'm just I think the the chair can say that it's going to be in the March meeting cycle and then we wouldn't have to make a motion and we wouldn't have to do like you know a formal written request or something if it's going to be on I think in March specifically March I think that's what is important um what are the dates of the meetings in March 11 and 19 18 AOW yeah because of Spring Break um go ahead the presenter or the person who made the report is actually going to be in Australia until the 18th of March but I'm sure we could do what James did okay um I don't I literally not sure how to do that um I don't have a

210problem but it but then he'll be remote and we don't have the power to force him to go yes I mean I haven't talked to this man and I don't know what his schedule is I don't know what's going on with him go ahead Lyn I I hear what you're saying about wanting to get it done in March because of change in the board possibly in April however I think that it is important to have him here and it doesn't matter ultimately who's on the board we are going to have to move forward with new plans and new leadership and so I would be happy to have it in April I'm sorry but I think that would be the best solution okay well we can't vote on this tonight um so um can you talk

211to Melissa about the intricacies of closed versus open and have that discussion make sure we get that worked out and then um I don't know I we can't vote on even whether or not we should have it in April ear March really TI I I'll say this once then I'll drop but I think it is a ridiculously tight interpretation of the rules to say that you can't move even to put something on a future agenda in the smacks of the time when I we when people voted four to three did not even hold a meeting that we knew where was going to be held I'll let it go I'll let it go goe BR Andrew I understand and this is kind of where we look at maybe after the campaign after at some point in

212the near future adopting Robert's Rules so that this is all set out with it so um I don't know if you want to remove your motion because I don't know so I didn't read it as a moot motion okay but but just um in my three years on the board it's been very hard for me to get anything on the agenda and I I re this has been going on for a long time now for trying to talk about this with with the board and I don't know how else to do it except to say it right now um should we do it in in April are we good with that don't even know if he's not Avail I do well I mean he can come on he will be in Australia visiting his son

213but I you know like James did it on Virtual so I don't know he's IND so you've talked to him I I I have not so um maybe somebody from the district should talk to him and figure out what his schedule is yeah is this we have think you have to pay him I think he just wants to talk about it he would just talk about it I don't think I can ask him I don't think he was gonna be paid I think he just wanted to talk about his you know his work well I mean we need to know that so um so someone should um reach out to him and specifically figure out his availability and what he's going to charge because his contract was filled a long time ago and um and

214Dr tiller you know got the report that he wanted and that happened in August so having him come back at this point doesn't seem like that would be without cost go ahead Lyn I would just say that if we do this in April it gives us time to go through the report somebody to go through the report and um get a sense of what sections would be appropriate to talk about in Open Session and what we would prefer not to delve into but go ahead Vicki yeah I think that's a great idea and actually um Dr tiller David Johns and I were preparing we went through the report already and found items that we could address and we're preparing to incorporate that into the presentation next month about the academic goals and progress there so

215if if there's something beyond what Dr tiller had already identified as areas that we needed to work on if you could let us know okay well that tonight's the first I've kind of heard of this so I'm caught una aware that this wasn't a thing and um so let's let's explore having him maybe in person maybe not or maybe people will be satisfied having this be part of the April um presentation I'm just going to need to hear from you guys I'm sorry I just I don't think we can make a decision on this tonight so um all right with that I would entertain a motion to adjourn I'm sorry you go ahead Lynn can you read the motion to go into close session I move that the board journ in close session pursuant to

216Wisconsin statute 19.85% in public would be likely to have a substantial adverse effect upon the reputation of persons referred to more specifically to it to discuss a hiring of and the contract for the interim superintendent have a second second okay can we do an all in favor no roll call vote go ahead keny beer hi McCoy hi Welch I Mills I GAC I okay we're adjourned into Clos session you have been watching The Green Bay Area Public School District's Board of Education meeting please visit the school district's website www. gbaps.org for more information on the district and future meeting dates if you cannot fully access the information on this video please let us know the accessib issue you are having by calling 920 44820 25 or by email at communications at gbaps.org we will try

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