05/20/26 HLSD Board Meeting

001broken down with notes. Next step. But if we can get that quantitative information from our contractor, Oh, >> that's awesome. approved. Good. front row. >> Yeah, I don't know. Whatever they want to do. >> Yes. I always forget that that one's over there. Better speed up chapter one. Got it. >> Those are so good. >> And she was wondering Gross. >> Okay. Is everybody back and ready? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Then at this point, we are back from break. We're now in the regular school board meeting agenda item number six. Everything is open. Public notice was given. Most notice was given. Thank you. Now we move into the board reorganization portion of the meeting. Each year the board is required to reorganize and elect officers for the board. We will start with nominations for

002president and I would entertain any ele uh any um >> Nominations. Thank you. At this time I'll nominate Matt McNeli for president. I'll second. >> And if the board wants to do seconds, you can. It's not >> requ seconding. >> It is not required. Are there any other nominations? >> If not, in this case, I would ask if the board would be willing to do it by vocal rather than secret ballot since there is only one name on the nomination. Is everyone in agreement with that? >> Yes. >> All those in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed? Okay. At this point, Mr. McNel takes over as president. Oh, boy. Where are we? No, I'm joking. So, let's see here. Let's keep going with these. Um, we'll start with vice president. Looking for any nominations

003for vice ro. >> I would nominate Chris Hegel. >> Do we want to write it down or do we want to just proceed? >> I would say we proceed unless we get two for any position. >> Yeah, I'm saying. As long as there's one, I'm fine with the vote. >> Perfect. All in favor? I >> two. >> All right. Next up, we will go with treasure. >> I will nominate Schwab. >> Same. All in favor? >> I I lastly um >> I would not Chris had a wonderful job last time. Used to I used to hi. >> Oh, hi. I think there's someone else. Yes, I'm back to nothing again. >> Oh, no. >> Sorry. >> All right. Now, we'll move forward with um appointment of committees. I think it just makes sense to replace

004myself with Adset. Keep Chwab and Morgan together on the finance and Chris Hagglin and Chris Adset on EPC. I don't think we need an eye for that, right? That's just >> president's appointment. >> Okay. >> Uh lead for the queens. >> Do I have a lead for the chair? >> Chair. >> Do I need to appoint that or can you guys work that out? >> Usually it's appointed. It's it's designated by the president. >> Okay. Um, in my opinion, let's just keep it as is then Hagglin for PCC and Schwab for finance. Except >> All right. Next, we need the appointment of the CIS1 delegate. Hagglin, you've been doing such a great job here for the last couple years to >> maintain that. >> I if anybody else wants to do it, I'm more than

005willing to give it up. It is on 69 for the initial appointment if that's something everybody's looking for. It is a Tuesday June 9th. June 9th. If not, I I can do. Is anyone else interested? >> I don't know what it is, but thank you. >> So, basically, you do better. >> You're doing great. >> All right. H, we appreciate you. If anything changes before, sounds good. All right. Up next, public comments. >> I don't have that whole spiel that you read and I don't know it. >> Does everyone have a chance that keep it to three minutes if you can? We can't suggest a second like I can help. special. You don't have to get me right, >> Miss Wri. >> Sorry. >> All right. Um, so dear school board members, I am a

006parent within the district and express great concern for this proposal increased tuition for Lakeside Academy wraparound care. I understand the reasoning behind the potential increase for the portion of Lakeside Academy daycare, but not for wraparound care. To go from $10 to $12 a year for one session of wraparound care, then go from $12 to $15 the next year. That's a 20% and 25% increase. And now Lakeside Academy wants to increase another 12%. And then 4K to go from $20 to $22 to $25 for half days with another 12% increase. This is a large expense when a child is in school. These continued increases are unsettling and very difficult, especially when there is no funding assistance. To pay over $1,200 a month for two children in school is gut-wrenching. Making today's financial burden and time apart

007of the family due to working more difficult in so many ways. I'm sorry. I hope as a school more a school board member and possibly a parent with young children in today's world, you'll consider this financial impact for your district's families. Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Cold. >> Hi everybody. I'm Lauren Cold. If you don't already know me, I'm a first grade teacher at North. I have three kids in the district, two at the middle school and now I have a one-year-old at Lakeside Academy. Um, and I'm here to voice my concerns regarding the proposed daycare tuition increase and to urge the board to consider a gradual multi-year roll out. Now, I did see Patrick, you um, changed the recommendation documents online today. I think one of us noticed that. Um, and so I

008do want to acknowledge that I wrote this before that, but I amended it hopefully as necessary. Um, I do respect the board's fiscal responsibility to our community. I checked all of those boxes when I signed it. I am a taxpayer. I am a parent. I'm a Lakeside Academy parent and I am a teacher of this district. I love it here. I wouldn't otherwise have all my eggs in one basket. Um, I watch our meetings and I appreciate you forecasting the tough budget realities and deci declining enrollments ahead. Um, we've seen multiple arrowhead referendums not pass. We don't want to be in that position. I get that. But the proposed daycare tuition increases, whether whether it's 15% or 9% or 12%. Um, it's a lot. It's a lot on families, including myself, it's a lot on

009teachers. I know we're all feeling the changes and the financial pressures in the economy right now. Um, but it's it's a lot. It was just jaw-dropping to read um that document. And this comes right on the heels of the new policy at Lakeside Academy for um everybody to pay to hold their spots. If you don't already know that in the past, we had to pay a very low fee um that I think actually went to our first week's tuition as we return re returned back um at the end of summer. Um but now we're required to pay to hold our spot over summer, which is a huge change. We found out about that in March. Um if any if any increase passes tonight, families will have been given less than three months notice for both

010of these major shifts. Um, I'm asking for a gradual roll out over multiple years. I think that's reasonable. Um, I think based on I know you're combing through the budget and trying to find money, but that's not on us. That is something that past decisions have been made and we can't just pivot and be like, "Oh, we'll find another daycare." Waiting list exists. I know the pricing is competitive, but that's just not reality when it comes to paying the bills. Um, and also for our teachers, timing is critical. We have to sign our contracts by June 15th. And to have this increase, whatever it is, potentially go through tonight, that leaves us with less than a month to decide whether or not teachers are coming back. And there are financial implications to breaking that contract

011beyond June 15th. Um, we used to have a teacher discount at the daycare. It was super generous. Not sustainable. I totally get that. that the district was very um uh willing to work with teachers to gradually roll that discount out. Um so I am asking that you consider that tonight. Um I think our district is really unique. We welcome little kids as young as 6 weeks old into our district. other districts are looking to model this that plan for themselves and it's a really great opportunity to include the community to get people into our schools. Um but we can't do it if it's not financially sustainable for families. So thank you. >> All right, Miss McMillan. >> Hello. Good evening, members of the board. Um, as many of you know, I'm Alison McMillan. I teach

012at Heartland South. This is my eighth year in the district. I previously taught third grade. Um, and now I teach in the library and I'm also a parent of two littles at Lakeside Academy. Um, last year I stepped away from a full class time role to transition into the library partially to save money on childcare costs. Um, since its beginning, our daycare program has been promoted as an important asset. Um, and it has been wonderful for building strong connections with our school community. Um, I truly appreciate the care and dedication of all the daycare staff. Um, I understand, as Lauren said, that there are a lot of operating costs that are associated with running the program. Um, however, many families are struggling with the pace and the scale of the financial changes that are being

013introduced. Um, over a relatively short period of time, we've experienced the loss of the staff discount, um, the addition of the summer pay requirements, and now this proposed rate increase. uh individually each of these changes would be manageable but together they really create a financial burden that's pretty substantial not only to teachers but also to non-teers that send their kids to Lakeside Academy. Um I believe most families understand and expect that childcare costs are going to rise. Uh a gradual increase of two to three even 5% would I mean seem reasonable predictable would be vegetable. Um the current proposal does feel pretty abrupt and difficult to absorb, especially as Lauren mentioned this close to the end of the school year. Um I did some math and my son Maverick for the cost for one day

014of daycare in the fall of 2024 when he started was 6212 and that was the last year of the 12.5% discount. Um for my son Lincoln who currently also falls under that 2-year-old category, the proposed rate is 81.66 66 a day for him, which in less than 2 years time is a 31.5% increase for a newborn at daycare in less than 2 years. And it makes me just really it really affects um me and my family. Um I also want to be honest about the reality that creates for my family and I may have to seriously reevaluate whether or not that's financially sustainable for me to remain in the district as a teacher as well. Um, so I hope the board will carefully consider the impact these changes have on our staff, our family stability

015and access for families who rely on this program every day. Thank you for your consideration. All right, that looks like that's all for public comment. All right, moving forward with the committee reports. We'll start with PPC. All right. PPC met on the 11th on Monday. Um we went over the personal report which is the the shared documents. There's a few ins and out especially I think that are there. Um we talked about the conflict of interest and board member behavior. We had three questions going into there. Two of these I think we're going to talk about in the next June workshop. we're going to have uh legal come in so we can discuss those that are there. The third one was an option that wasn't selected initially regarding cell phone uh policy which was just

016not selected during that original criteria but next board workshop we believe we'll have somebody go those policies and programs. Uh the last thing we went through was the hydroponic STEM uh program and that's later on in the board meeting. So, I won't give away all the good fun stuff, but it was a cool resition coming over. >> Awesome. Thanks for looking back at us. >> Thanks, Chris. Well, finance. >> Yeah, we spent a lot of time talking about the daycare and the lunch price stuff, which we'll talk about more of that. Um, we did the normal kind of spending review, financial statement review. Nothing notable to, excuse me, to report there. Um, we looked at kind of a real rough budget for next year. I think you talk a little bit about that in the

017the committee session. It's really too preliminary to share much with that with the larger board, but I appreciated getting that that kind of first glance if you kind of move through it. Um, you know, I think we talked about the the fun 46 transfer. you know, I think we're looking at 250 going there this year, down from what we budgeted, but still would um and yeah, I think the rest of the stuff we can talk about when we get to the action items on the daycare, which awesome. Thanks, Matt. All right. Next is the Will School board summit and capital update. Um, I got a little preview on this. I don't know everything about it though. Um, so I'd like to make a motion to push this to next month so I could get caught

018up to speed on it. >> So, anyone looking for that motion or looking have provide this update. You got all right down the line here. We have our consent agenda. >> All in favor say I. >> I. I >> all opposed abstain too. I don't remember >> thank you for correcting me. >> No problem. >> I'll help you in the transition. Appreciate that. >> All right, moving forward with consent agenda. We have um the monthly voucher and purchasing card report. We have the schoolboard meeting minutes from April 20th. We have the employee personnel report. Um we have donations and we have the Northshore academic and career planning program that we reviewed um last month. Let's see here the donations trying to get back into board docks. But we read >> yes if you can. >>

019Sure. Uh we had a American Heart Association donation for 350 to Hartland North for a jump rope uh for heart and then we had a grandparent uh donation for $200 to H Heartland North. Want to make sure all the students have school supplies. >> I love that. >> Awesome. Thank you very much. That's so cool. >> I I want to add to that if I can. I believe that um maybe we I don't think we did the Lake Country uh parent band parent group donated. >> No, we didn't approve that yet. >> We have to. >> Okay. All right. So, we do have a pretty big donation coming down the road. >> We'll we'll announce next. >> Okay. >> All right. With that said, any would anyone like any items removed from the consent agenda?

020If not, I am looking for a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented. >> I'll make that motion. >> I'll second. >> All right. Any additional discussion needed? I don't believe >> I just wanted to point out that um uh Mrs. Plank is retiring at the end of this year in personnel report and she's been here with the district for 23 years. And so I think that's something we should note and thank her for that. and I for one will miss her and that I mean she deserves a nice retirement there so I hope she enjoys it. I appreciate that. All right. So all in favor to approve say I >> I opposed. >> All right. Now we are moving into new business done program presentation. >> Yes. So exciting. We're very excited about

021this. Um just kind of get myself all situated here. this. Um I first and foremost I want to thank the team for being here this evening, taking time out of your evening yet again. This is the second month in a row. Um but they are very committed to this proposal and and have worked very hard on this proposal over the course of the last six months taking um general ideas and moving them into already some of them in action and then other piece of pieces yet to be determined this evening. So we're really excited about um where we're headed with this. As you know, we have a strategic plan in place. Um, we are going into year two and one of the asks within the strategic plan was really to look at our elective programming

022um to take a look at how we can expand kind of our um robotics and and wellness planning. And so in conversations with the um administrators and talking about what we already have in place um and what we could expand on, we we have come to this um this model. Um, additionally, you may recall last year I was was it last year because they're seventh graders now. I was able to teach uh Morgan Johnson's sixth grade classes. She was the ticket winner. Um, and so I got to be um her sub for the day. And sorry Morgan, but I did and Sarah and everybody else, I did take 20 minutes at the end of every session I had with them to ask them some questions about what are you interested in? What would you like

023to do? what would you like to see in the future for H Heartland Lakeside electives? Some of them we were able to very quickly implement even with new administration um with digital marketing. So I think one of the things that our middle schoolers really love this year was being able to take that digital marketing and learn about their digital footprint which is not something that we've really talked a whole lot about. So much so that Ally, who is here, really ran that ran away with it in um SSL, third through fifth grade, implementing programming to really give them a bigger deep dive so that we start that education sooner. And and you'll you'll hear Alli's name a couple times this presentation. Um so very excited to be here with you tonight. I'm not going to

024get real deep into this. If you watched last week, remembering that the public is watching as well. um our administrative team just did a phenomenal job laying out what this could look like for kids. And so really today I am here for the ask. We're going to talk about a lot of different elements of this program and what it means um and how it builds the future of um not only each individual student that looks at this from a K8 um model but um for for frankly for the future of our country are they are sitting in our classrooms right now and these are the things that we think are going to strengthen them to be the best that they can be. So what does that look like? Um within our strategic plan, we kind

025of started with that portrait of a graduate compass and what that looks like. Uh little did we know I brought this to Hartland from seven years ago. There were initial conversations about a portrait of a graduate and what that looks like. And it was at a session that I was in that I had at a leadership conference somewhere that that talked about what does your graduate look like? So we kind of started working backwards with like what do we want H Heartland Lakeside students at 8th grade? What do we want them to look like and that's when we came up with that that portrait of a graduate. It was a model that was used and how exciting. I will share this with the community now that DPI has determined that every district across the state

026needs to have a portrait of a graduate program within their buildings and in their districts and they have actually asked H Heartland Lakeside to be a model school to present across the state um and and kind of talking about our portrait of a graduate. So we've already had begun what that might look like for our future. But that is our compass. We really I can't get over the staff in in such a short period of time um within my first years here going, "Yep, we've got this. We're going to run with this. We're going to grow, think, collaborate, share, care, and lead." And each of our buildings have a leadership team with their staff. They meet with them on a regular basis. Sarah um really kind of took it and said, "Yeah, we can we

027can put this in all of our areas." And the reason we can do that and the reason it went so well is because we have an impenetrable foundation at H Heartland Lakeside unlike anything we've seen. We protect that. We need to protect that foundation reinforcing the core academic excellence in literacy and math. If we we believe wholeheartedly if we secure that and we maintain that model, we can do anything. We can put anything in play because that's what success looks like. Reminding you of course that we are number one in the state in math in the forward exam and we are in the top five across the state in education with a 23% free and reduced with 15% of our students identified with IEPs as as students with needs. I think those are pretty good

028stats and we continue to rise year after year and it's because of the great work going on in our buildings. So we want to sustain that but is that all that we want to do? Is that what our focus is always? It is when we talk about any program model we put in place. It's what we talked about when you're going to hear about the library in a minute. It's what we talked about when we talked about social studies. And it's what we're going to be talking about tonight when it comes to sciences and mathematics and expanding robotics and hydroponics. We need to prepare for the future. We need to expand the learning through STEM and real world experiences. So, what does that look like? like I keep hitting the wrong button because I know

029I need to get to this pointer because my team told me I needed to use the pointer in your eyes. I'm like I know right. >> So, so how does this exactly look like for a coherent K8 model? Um every component of it is intentionally placed to support the next level. So you'll see just like our strategic plan and our pillars, it's built in the house, right? In a form of a house. And what does that mean? Well, we started with the blueprint. What is that? It's a strategic plan. It's the work that this board had has done over the course of the last two years to create this idea of who are we and then adding to that is the foundation. I'm not going to mystify anybody up here and say that the foundation

030wasn't laid before the strategic plan. It absolutely was. We have been a strong literacy and math school district for a very long time. And the reason why is because we have such a great coaching and interventions intervention support system. Then inside of that, that's that structural pillar place here. We're really talking about that application and inquiry. We changed the way that we do library media. We changed the way that we're doing social studies and we are working toward continued experential science and then expanding it from there. And what is that capstone and what is that tipping point that top that top level of what we're looking to do? It's future focused learning for the new STEM initiative. Literacy and math have served as the non-negotiable foundation for all future academic and real world learning. That

031is that is absolutely at the at the core of who we are. It it is consistent K8 instruction eradicating any variance across grade levels. So when I was teaching and I was in the classroom now it was music so it was a little bit different but I remember our core content areas were going to teacher pay teachers and any of these other outlets to create their lesson plans and build and grow their lesson plans here a lot of districts will will sign up for one set this is what we're going to do we're going to follow this book and only this book and it's going to deliver all of our curriculum at Hartland Lakeside I learned the way they piece together their literacy is taking from the best practices of about five different programs in

032making what's best for education and for for our kids. And it was all data driven. And I remember looking at when when I first came on board, Sarah and Lisa were sharing all the different ways that they made this work. So much so that you might be aware of Act 20. Um it's a law that was passed that our kindergarten through third graders have to be qualifying readers by the time they're in third grade. So much so that the plan that we have been using here in H Heartland for I don't know how many years, we didn't have to renew our literacy program, our reading program because ours was so good and and there was a lot of work that went into that. There was a lot of time, a lot of energy, a ton

033of training, but we were able to sustain our own model because we know it works and because people did the work to submit it to DPI. And I would I would put it up against any other school district's model for Act 20. It really is sustainable. So much so that we are going to work to continue it into fourth and fifth grade and kind of mirror that model for math in the future. So consistent instruction, targeted student support, that's another thing from very early on all from kindergarten. That's that ACT 20 piece, right? identifying assistance students exactly when they need it, not the next year or the next 6 months later. Um, and then of course ongoing teacher development. This this district is really focused on professional development, continuously refining instructional expertise, but now we're

034to a place of rather than traveling to New York or going to different places, which was very costly, we have experts. Not only do we have experts as far as our reading coach and our math coach, we have expert teachers and they are now starting to share and work together and grow um as educators um and as leaders in their field. This is where I get my pointer out. So the foundational support mechanism intervention coaching and architecture this is the foundation of where we are at. So if you look over here that K3 early identification and heavy support that's that act 20 compliance. What that does by really opening that, widening that gap out at the front, we can filter as many kids in early on to ensure that we have for sixth through 8th

035grade a reduced long-term interventional needs. We have that system in place. It's actually the grade bands for for us are actually K uh yeah K3 and then um four through eight. Um reading interventionists at both at all buildings, math interventionists at all buildings. really really sinking into ensuring that kids get help now based on every concept. Not just generalizing math but threading through the math scores and finding out that it's algebraic equations or some element that they have to get expertise in and our our staff do that work. Um the coaching engine is that instructional coaching feeds into that teacher expect uh expert expertise and that's those cogs are going they're working together with small intervention instructional coaching and stronger outcomes. What does that look like here? It looks like leadership is the director of

036teaching and learning who is overseeing the curriculum the K8 coherence and the instructional systems. We have in math, we have K8 math coach um who builds consistency, works alongside teachers in real time. Um we have a literacy coach that does the K3 lit and ACT 20 coordinator um ensuring early literacy compliance and excellence. And I will tell you that work right there is absolutely core to the work that we are doing um every single day and it's what makes it work later in later down in the years. And then for 48 we also have a literacy six uh coach and a sixth grade sixth or eighth grade interventionist. So some dual roles there. Um targeted intervention with reading interventionist and math interventionist. And then the six sixth through 8th grade. This is where we kind

037of talk about that connectivity of foundational um academics and future application. So inquiry and perspective. What does that look like? I talked a little bit about um library and information literacy. This again is led by our district-wide kind of library coordinator, Lisa. She she's at all three buildings and kind of just make sure that the libraries are put together. We made a switch. You'll recall North had this brilliant idea to create this beautiful space in their library two three years ago. Um and it's just it's worked out beautifully. And then at at South we had made some adjustments. We were we had a teacher that was in there who retired who was teaching social studies in that classroom. We moved social studies back into the regular classroom just kind of historical value here. And that's

038when we brought Ally inside. And Ally, you'll see that she earlier she she's a teacher. So, she came out of the classroom. So, we made them teaching aids in all three of the buildings. Um, and then at the middle school, we also have that support system in Amanda. So, we have Melissa at North. We have Ally here at South and um and Amanda at Northshore Middle School. That impact alone has made such a huge difference in the foundation and the success of our students. What does that mean? Independent research, media literacy, and lifelong reading. Um you you'll never hear me say anything about removing a library. I love books. I want to hold books in my hand, and I believe in I believe in literacy. Um, social studies was a K8 model as well. Um,

039you'll recall we went through a um, whole series of um, looking at different curricula um, to make a determination on what we were going to do, particularly kindergarten through fifth grade. And they, um, have gone through this first year and have knocked it out of the park. So much so that that um that source has contacted and reached out to Sarah and said, "I can't get over how great your staff have done at implementing the social studies." So, we're really excited about that. We're going to continue to expand that. We are going to look at the the um middle school model soon. But what what the interesting thing that we found this year which was so great was that the portrait of a graduate elements and the design that goes along with civic engagement, communication

040and perspective taking fits right within the curriculum of the middle school. And so we really expanded that particularly at the middle school and and every middle schooler takes portrait of a graduate. Every middle schooler has an element. Every eighth grader has done interviews with each of you. You all have experienced that incredible opportunity for our students. And it's the outcome for all of this is students learn how to engage responsibly and understand their world, not just memorizing content. And before I have teachers go, well, we don't make them just memorize content. That is the perception, right? The perception in the world is that we are still doing wrote learning. Um, and and I can tell you and assure you that H Heartland doesn't do that. But for the greater good, I want you to know

041that when you start talking about experential learning and application, H Heartland does it does it very very well. So again, you're going to look at this kind of traditional learning content that everybody kind of believes is out there is that role memorization, that passive observation and isolated subjects, right? Kind of looking at what that is and kind of where we would like to move. Again, tied directly to the strategic plan. We're talking about life science and sustainable agriculture. We're talking about really digging even deeper into our outdoor education opportunities and our wellness. So, what does that look like? Um, it's an idea of the students aren't just learning science, they are experience experiencing it through inquiry and hands-on application. So, exploring biological concepts through active hydroponics and environmental awareness. As you know that we have

042Courtney at pretty much uh K3. We're kind of looking to make her a little more K2 and then maybe working with Jake a little more in that 35 realm. But we already have we're tapping maple trees. We're in the woods. You saw if you if you didn't see it, you you saw it on the uh Facebook post, a giant bird's nest for our kindergarten and first graders to be outside and doing some reading. And it's so exciting and so incredible. and and Chris Dylan could tell you that his second grader came home and they were walking around outside and there was a bird singing and she was able to identify the bird and Chris looked at her like what bird that is. I don't know what bird that is. So it's fascinating and incredible things

043are happening every single day in our buildings and we can't keep up with fa Facebook fast enough to get it out there. So it's important that you understand that and know the great things that are happening what that hydroponics piece looks like. John brought this forward when we started talking about how do you take STEM isn't just a separate class on its own, right? I hope everybody understands that what STEM is is taking all of your core academics and tying together into this applied way. And so we started talking about the robotics and the pieces that I'll talk about in just a minute. It was like, well, what what are some of the needs like? And one of the things that our middle schoolers last year, their seventh graders this year, there'll be eighth graders

044next year talked about was kind of this how do we grow our own food and how do we focus on wellness and almost like the the former home that we used to have, right? When we all had six weeks of sewing and we had to sew a pillow or whatever it was, right? I don't know if you all did that, but we did aging myself probably. But um this really is kind of exploring biological concepts through active hydroponics and environmental awareness. So John said, "I'm going to go out and he got bids and he's figuring it out." And there are these giant towers and you grow lettuce and sprouts and tomatoes and cucumbers and you do it in 28 days. Well, in 28 days, we we could probably run two sections of these towers, right,

045in one quarter. And so that's pretty incredible, right? We have the space. we know where we can put these um and and it's just we it it brings everything together in that life science way and and we have bigger ideas for the future. And I'm getting way ahead of myself on the slides, but I'm so excited about this. I'm super pumped about it and the great work. Same thing with outdoor ed. We brought in a brand new PE teacher this year at the middle school um who is absolutely committed to getting kids outside. They are outside as often as humanly possible here at Northshore Middle School. They are out when it's raining a little bit, when it's a little too chilly. That's all right. Let's go. Let's run harder. Right? Like she's got such a

046great attitude and has such a great spirit in her. And then of course the wellness piece. When we talk to the sixth graders, we I talked to the sixth graders. I actually had students say, "I wish I knew no knew more about what I should be eating or how to be healthy or how to sustain my body." That's pretty incredible for a sixth grader to be thinking that way. I want to honor that. I want us to honor that and take a look at knowing that a healthy body and a healthy mind leads to healthy future. So what does this all look like? We've got this great core academic content again re reminding ourselves of that foundation that we have. We'd love to take what we have already. We already have robotics and coding. We've

047got some great stuff going on at North. We've got some great stuff happening at South. And we have PLTW. We were just named a elite school last year or the school of recognition last year. We'd like to really grow that and really kind of how does this feed into all of our academic areas? Love to get our VEX robotics where kids are in are thinking systems and working together um designing engineer and solving real world problems. It's not about more content. It's where students use what they already know and and applying it. So, what we're trying to keep up with is that rapidly changing future. You all have children in our district right now, right? Some of them littles, some of them about to graduate, right? For the and and then you're done. You don't

048have children here and you're going to see that future creep up on you so much faster. But what are we in first grade? What's Cole doing in first grade that she knows that she can grab on to that they need 20 years from now? Right? She's she's she's looking at the whole person, the person, and what she can do for them. Students are entering a world requiring rapid adaptation and critical thinking. This initiative ensures we are preparing them now rather than waiting for later. It's the STEM initiative. What does that mean? It's math, science, technology times problem solving equals that STEM application. We are looking to hire a new K8 STEM teacher who builds and leads this K8 program, serves as the integration point for math, science, technology, and partners directly with core classroom teachers.

049Taking exactly what we just talked about, our our core, our math, literacy, science, and social studies, putting it through its magic little machine, and coming up with STEM skills, core integration, robotics, and CTN. The takeaway on this is the position maximizes the value of our foundational subjects by serving as the in essential integration point, the master of this domain so to speak. So what does that look like for Hartland Lakeside if approved this evening? It's the implementation blueprint for year one. The core focus is strategic growth and systemic planning. So we're going to support real world applications and signature programs and we're going to revise and develop opportunities. Robotics a pathway development. So already we know because we've made some some transitions with some staff that we've already regardless of what happens we're going to

050bolster up at North. They are already planning and they are they are itching to get going. They've got the little the little robots and the students are fiveyear-olds 5-year-olds are writing code so that a robot can go through a little obstacle course, right? That is that is highlevel thinking. when we start to think about uh uh what is that guy that we all learned about whatever the philosophy guy anyway um kind of trying to make sure that that's happening right and then hydroponics and growing innovative life science and agriculture technology I will say this to you all this is something that is the hot ticket right now it is right I'm not gonna it is but it's for high schools a lot of high schoolers are doing this very few middle schools are doing this

051across the state and I I think because we have the foundation that we have, I think we can do it better than anyone. I believe that action item is to begin creating partnerships with the cafeteria staff. They already know about it. They're very excited about it because we would like to grow enough to be able to sustain salads at lunches at all three buildings and then we'll blow it out even more uh year two. So, it's again talking about year two and beyond looking at that community me mentorship and local business partnerships. We already um are ready to hit send tomorrow on business partnerships looking for people to sponsor and donate to this this programming. We are really excited about the crosscurricular integration all that middle to elementary mentorship you know providing for the younger

052people building out that farm to school cafeteria integration advanced application of career technology and um engineering is deepening that robotics. Right now, everybody has their own little pot of robotics. I would say there's not that cohesive connectivity. Well, why wouldn't we take what what Heather's building is doing and say, "Okay, that's what she's got going on. Dave, what can you do with that? I'm going to hand the baton to you. Now, what are you going to do?" Right? Dave's going to take it along with Ally and several other key players and they're going to grab that and go, "Okay, we're going to do VEX Robotics and we've got these sets and we're going to build machines and we're going to put things together." And then we're going to say, "Okay, give it to John." And

053John's going to be like, boy, I'm going to take it one level further. Yes, I'm going to keep PLTW because that that that's core and and we've got a lot of that, but we are going to take it to the future of hydroponics and growing and how we can apply systems the same exact way in robotics as you can in these hydrop hydroponics. So, we're expanding our reach, deepening learning and partnering for success for students. And it's an unshakable foundation in literacy and math. We go right back to that. It's immediate. its targeted academic support and its purposeful real world learning experiences for the community. It's continued high performance metrics which we know we need, right? We have it. Let's sustain it. Highly responsible resource allocation and graduates exceptionally prepared for a shifting future. And

054when we talk about this community piece, um this summer the leadership team, we are going out to the community. We are going to hold meetings at the fire station, at village hall, at the library. We're meeting every Tuesday. And so if you're listening and you want us to come to you, um we're going to get out in the community and we're going to start talking about what it is we're doing because the future of H Heartland, you all know people don't leave H Heartland. And if they leave Hartland, they come back to H Heartland because it's where they were raised and it's what they believe in and it's what they know. So who do we need to talk to? the businesses, the people who are out there who are hiring people and looking to attract,

055right? That's that those are the people. What skills are they looking for? What what does the future look like? Um and then for staff, clear, coherent K8 systems. Again, they're very used to that. They're used to this idea of, okay, I've got this ball. I'm going to pass it on. We're going to pass it on. Not in the hot potato sense, not like, oh, I don't want that problem, right? It's like, no, we're going to we're going to build it. We're going to give it to you. Ongoing embedded instructional coaching. We will not abandon that. That's that is key. That is key to what we do. And aligned expectations across all grade levels. We talk all the time about that transition between second and third grade and fifth grade and sixth grade. We are working

056really hard to make sure that that is a seamless seamless entry point for each child that that enters into that. So what does this look like? It's not about adding more. It's about aligning our system and preparing what students for what comes next. We have a remarkably strong foundation and this proposal ensures we build upon it intentionally, responsibly and with profound purpose for the future of all of our students here at Carbon Lake site. So, it is our recommendation that we move forward, that we ask you tonight to allow us to do the work to stay out of this stagnant space that we're in, to renew some of our um electives and our programming to ensure the best of all for our students. I know there are some questions out there regarding, well, how do

057you know this is going to be what our kids need? We contacted high schools. We talked to the curriculum directors and said, "What do you need from our our graduates to support the programs that you have?" The majority of our students will end up at Arrowhead. It's just we are a feeder school to Arrowhead, but we also worked with Pewwaukee. We also worked with Okcon. We talked to other districts and this is where we are headed. Not only that, but it's it go take the actual program and what away all that away. It's what students are learning intrinsically. right? It's what they're learning how to do, how not to do, how to solve problems in a practical way. So, I know that that would be one of the questions. I think then too, it's it's

058the financial. So, is it a just a teacher? Is it what are the what what is the cost of this program? So, each of the administrators ran out. They they got um bids or associated costs. We have some VEX equipment that I think I shared with you several years ago. Um there was there were some purchases that were made and some of it was VEX equipment and whatnot. Gretchen and I kind of looked at some of what we have. We're going to kind of sort through it and start to catalog it a little bit. Might be able to piece meal some things together. Um but we're talking about I don't know roughly $5,000 at North about $10,000 at South. Um and then Northshore Middle School we have towers. Right now, the ticket is like $60,000,

059but that's for 10 towers in a full implementation. What we're looking at doing is possibly tying it into our life science teaching um so it's not a separate um entity, but making it part of the science curriculum um so that we don't lose, you know, we don't we don't try to make that all happen again because there's not approval on this program. Um, our teachers here at Northshore Middle School are are are aware of the program and are aware this is happening and we're talking about it, but we need to find the person and then balance that against what we have and kind of talk about how that's going to look. Um, what are some of the things I think that the question is like, oh, we don't have any money. How are we going

060to do this? What does it look like? Right? and and it's it it really is tied to purposeful intentional decisionm from day one of my coming to H Heartland when we first came here and and anybody that was was here at the time we noticed that there were things that were just being um reordered uh subscriptions just reordering and not pe people weren't using them um and we just I think thought that the subscriptions were cancelled and they were just on this rotating thing so the administration worked really hard to go, "Wait a minute, we don't use that. We haven't used that in three years, but we're still paying for it." Right? Like those types of things happening. So, it's been line by line looking at everything that we spend money on. We when we

061uh um Sarah and I kind of had a conversation just the other day, Cindy and I were talking about what are what are the costs that we have for um spend what are we spending on um professional development. So, I asked Cindy to break it down. City of Romanesco accounts payable. We used to spend $200 $150,000 a year for teachers to go to New York and they would fly to New York and they would get trained or we would bring in training. Um we we haven't done that. We haven't done that because I believe in the people that we have here and we have experts in our field. So we have taken that $175,000 bill, we'll average it, down to $20,000. And and the only reason it's $20,000 is because we have teachers who are

062actually spending time in summer after school write writing curriculum, making sure that they're at the top of their game when they get ready back to this the the kids and we compensate them for that. There are a variety of other other pieces that once I sit down um Patrick is is happy to share with you other ways. But I will share with you that th this is this is what it's all about for kids. This is where we need to be. This is where we need to go. And I have an entire team that is ready to take that and run with it. And I have never been in this year has been just a remarkable year for this leadership team and the work that has been done and and the way they go back

063to their buildings and they build everything out with their staff. It is a it is a a great machine right now. And I believe that with this strategic plan and the work that you've done to get us to where we are today and my 146 KPIs, right, like I'm here for it and ready to take it on with you guys. if we can ensure that we're doing what's best for kids always. So, this isn't fluff. This is something that they need and and and I just ask for your approval. >> Uh questions. >> Just a quick comment. You also said there's a U grant for this. >> Yes. Yes. So, yep. I will talk to you about that. Yeah, absolutely. Because I already know because we we talked about it in PPC a little bit,

064so I was kind of prepared for it. The grant is not approved at this point. It is a first come first-s serve basis, but it is one of the only grants that it's from Fab Lab through the the state. Um, and it is one of the only grants that doesn't have that that if you live in a propertyrich neighborhood or what, you know, right? It doesn't have a clause to it. It's first come, first serve. So, we already have the grant. We've already begun filling the grant out, but when the date comes, Sarah and I are like, send, right? It's going to be we hit send on that first day. We worked with PWA. Thank you to Daniellea Bosanic. Again, she just has done such a great job of assisting and talking us through it

065all. We don't know how much we could get. Um it's a matching grant. So, whatever monies we would get, we would say this is what we would want. We would get that from them or whatever they approve us for. It's a 50/50. Um so, it's anywhere between $50,000 and beyond. Um I I'm sure there's a cap at like $200,000. We've got to take a look at that. um it there seems to be like there might have been some changes in that um over the years, but I do know that Patrick can speak more to the finances of it. I think there's another question out there that I do want to address because I think two of you have asked the same question. How do we measure success for this program? We measure success in the

066same way that we measure success for literacy and math and any other program. We didn't have a model for portrait of a graduate. We had no I I had no idea. I knew it could be good. I had no idea that it could be what it turned into at the hands of our staff. As soon as they were given the this is what we're doing, build it. They they far exceeded anything that I could have ever imagined or created myself. Um and the principles told me full transparency that the principal said to me, Tina, give it to the teachers. Let's just go. They're going to be far more creative. And they were. And it was the first time that we brought kindergarten through 8ighth grade together and they built it together. And our plan is

067to do the same. Our plan is to bring them all back again this summer. Kindergarten through 8th grade. Split them all up and have them talk about what does it look like. So what does success look like? Success looks like us relying on that that strong foundation of literacy and mathematics and growing a program from the ground up. What does our eighth grader look like? dial it all the way back to kindergarten and pull that wire through. And and I think there was another question of, well, we've got a lot of kids open enrolling in, and we do. Um, we'll talk a little bit about that. We don't, you know, I think we keep talking about this declining enrollment. Um, I I'm not sure we're going to be declining. I just I I I have

068this great hope and I've had this great hope from day one that we're going to build that back out. Um, but what does that look like? And I the reference, there were a couple different references. Um, one was lemonade. I'll just share the lemonade one. And I thought it was cute. If you have this great glass of lemonade that we have here at H Heartland Lakeside, it's great glass lemonade, man. Anybody that's here right now, and especially if you're here, kindergarten through 8ighth grade, that lemonade is perfect. It's spot on. Just the right amount of lemon and sugar. Well, what happens when you just add water to it? It It's going to dilute it. So, how do you get back to that regular that great lemonade? You see some examples of it sitting here tonight.

069They know just the amount of sugar, just the amount of lemon to add to that water to make it a great glass of lemonade. Other questions? So, the ask is for the the supplies or for the teacher? >> The teacher. >> And how um is that a full-time like a >> 1.0? >> So, when I brought you guys the preliminary budget, we talked a little bit. That's right. You said >> not obviously full transparency not approved. Um but I have $100,000 in that budget. 65 salary 35 benefits which is the typical breakdown we see. Um I also will tell you uh the budget I brought you and Matt, I did a lot of work in the last week um trying to update things. Um got a lot more information. Um we've seen great success with

070our family advantage health plan. Okay. >> Um, looking at savings right in the neighborhood of about $240,000 premium savings this year. >> Um, yeah, we had a we had to swallow a big pill with with health insurance. Um, but I've double budgeted for a lot of those items. So, I backed 240,000 out. Uh, we renegotiated our manage print manage print services. We're going to save another 20 uh annually. Um, audit costs, we were able to get audit costs down $5,000. Um, we have a new staffing partner for our external substitutes. Um, probably saving somewhere in the 15 to 20,000 range just on based on the percentages that they charge. Um, and our current volume and usage. Um, I'm currently in the middle of shopping. Our our liability and property insurance hasn't been shopped in 7

071years. Um, we we had EMC through our buildings. Um, we've got three or four bids coming in. I don't know what that's going to look like. Um, but as people shop and and more bids come in, that opportunity for more savings. Right now, I'm looking at the neighborhood of if everything were status quo, early stage, um, with that position, with the maintenance technician position that's already been approved, um, I'm projecting a a budget surplus of about 270,000. So, um, from a numbers perspective, um, the budget supports it. That's my >> What's the grant process? I mean, when you talked about this week factor, I know you got a like it's not guaranteed you get this. I'm just curious, right? Like, >> it isn't, but it is it is dependent on the timing of it, right?

072So, that's why I'm saying it's it's first come, first serve on that on that dollar amount. and they they they tend to grants are really a pain, right? I mean, I'm just be honest with you. People don't like to take the time to write that you meet the criteria, >> right? It's Yeah, it has Yep. It has nothing to do with anything else. I >> I mean, basically, I don't lay terms, Danielle wrote this for Piwaukee. She basically gave us the blueprint of this is how you need to write it. This is what the the grant award is looking for, committee is looking for. write it in this format. Make sure you have these key elements and your odds of securing the grant if there's still funds available is pretty high. >> Okay. >> They're

073doing it annually, correct? >> Over there. >> Yeah. Yeah. I think it's Yes, it is annually. >> Okay. Are we working pretty close with them if we were to approve this? >> We have we have great relationships. Sarah has established great relationships with with Arrowhead and with and with Pewwaukee and and people who have done it. So, we just Sarah and I just met last week and talked about what um I I think because I think you guys asked some questions at PPC that were really great like um what are some what are some pitfalls like what didn't go well and how do we avoid them and what went well and how do we do that right I mean some just really great guidance questions um to sit here today and and say to you

074well this is exactly how it's going to go and is unrealistic right it has to evolve we have to continually reass reassess and re-evaluate just like we would any of our curriculum. Our math and literacy programs that that that whole thing started 12 years ago, at least 12 years ago, and I would say probably it's been in the last 5 years that it's met its and and masterful. So, it takes time to evolve programs, but I I think that in and of itself just shares with you or or um helps you see that they're not quitters, right? They're going to keep going until until they see student success and outcomes. >> I really like the vision. My only question is in the first, say, year or two, how do you measure that success though? Like

075>> I think it's a great question. and we we we kicked it around a little bit and >> yeah, besides the lettuce. >> Yeah. I mean, I don't know that honestly, Chris, I don't know that outside of the joy on their face and the feedback from kids and and and one of the things that I wonder about is is some behavioral issues that we may or may not have in elective courses because kids don't want to be in that class at that time and maybe they're going to enjoy hydroponics more than they would um I don't know, comic art or whatever. I don't you know, whatever it might be. Um maybe that's a measure. Um I think right now it's we got to get somebody in here to help us see what this vision and

076make this vision happen and bring it to life. Um but we didn't have any any measures of success for portrait of a graduate. Now we have measures of success and we can build it from there. So I I I can't sit here and concrete tell you, oh well if 85% of them did this, that or the not realistic and I would be lying to you. There's no way for us to do that. You have to you have to take this trust but verify attitude with us and know that what you've seen this staff and these teams do over the course of the years is evidence enough for you to take this opportunity forward. >> Yeah, I appreciate all the due diligence and effort that you're putting into it and being fiscally responsible with the approach.

077um you know the framework in my opinion strikes a perfect balance of safeguarding what we already know works and what you're all successful at already while also paving you know a path forward for innovation. So this is it's outstanding in my opinion. >> I would say the end right at the port of the graduate is the end the first measure of success. This is what you want it to look like. That's what that success would be or didn't do they have these skills moving on at that port at that piece. So I think that's the first piece and then all those other ones will fall into place. So the annual cost is 60ish equipment up front. >> That equipment is upfront cost. >> So you purchase it. >> I mean there would be some don't

078get me wrong there would be some supply cost that would be annual but the big ticket of buying the actual equipment to run the program. >> Um so you're looking at a staff member. Um, so yeah, obviously you have a staff member that's that's going to go up each year, but um I budgeted, like I said, I budgeted 100,000 um for salary and benefits. >> Y and I will say that we we typically budget uh 200 250 for curriculum resources and that's because this this district has been committed year after year to doing um curriculum what do we call that? Each year we kind of look at a new curriculum for a new subject area, right? >> And and we are doing that so there's space for it um for these onetime funds. >> Yeah,

079we're doing we're not doing it this year. Right. Right. >> We didn't stop doing it, >> right? Just this year. Yes. Yes. Sorry. Yep. Sorry. Yeah. We're not >> press for one year because we didn't have great need to do that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. >> Send the right message. Okay. It seems to line up really nicely with everything that we did in the strategic plan. >> Where would these towers go? >> Uh, well, right now we've got that great big robotics room and we have um a couple of classrooms that we're looking at. They could go in either. Um I think if you were to ask Mr. Fox. He would like probably to go in the big robotics room at the end. But if we have >> your office, um there's windows

080and there's water there, but we also made a commitment years ago to make that kind of a robotic space. So, like I said, again, bring somebody in, make them have them assess what it looks like and build this thing out. And we have the job description ready. We have the notice to families ready. We have the social media blitz, the media, the media release. We've got it all. We've got it all ready to go um tomorrow. Um >> do we happen to know anyone that we have in mind for the position or it's really just all up in the air? It's not like a hey, we have someone in our district that we want to kind of tap. >> I think all of us are going to hit our networks and Okay. and and uh

081yeah, go from there. >> Cool. >> All right. Well, I'll I'll make a motion to um approve the STEM programming position and associated curriculum costs. >> I'll second All in >> favor. >> Thank you. Very exciting. >> Great for kids. >> Thank you guys. You have just worked tirelessly on this. So, it's >> it's actually been a vision for Mr. Rish for several years. And so to let him see it come through is is pretty darn exciting. >> Good stuff. >> Salad for everyone. >> I'm going to have to rethink my thought then. >> Okay. >> I'm sure it could. >> Just got to put the right stuff. >> I'll let my middle kid take it. He likes the sounds. >> All right. Move forward here. Um, we have discussion and decision on the 26th

08227th board calendar. >> I have two dates that I think we should move. >> What you got? >> Um, December 21st. I think that's a terrible date. No offense. Um, it is during uh winter break. So, I think if we move it up a month, a week to December 14th, that Monday. Um, and then just going along the lines of no school on January 18th. I think moving it to the 19th, the Tuesday or another day is good. >> I actually had December 14th for the December meeting and then January 11th would work best for me. >> It's all about you. >> I'm just throwing it out there. I will say that that week of the 19th through the 22nd, I am I am always gone that week for um the convention. >> So the

08311th the 11th would work, right? >> Is that giving you enough time, Patrick? >> On which one? >> The 11th of January. >> Yeah, that's fine. >> And then the 14th of December. They may have to have vacations during one of these summer days like I do. >> No. >> Uh September. >> Yeah. >> The big one. Um I am >> that one you can't move. >> We can't move this one. >> I don't think so cuz that was set by the electors or the people last year, right? >> I don't know the rules, but it was set at that meeting. >> Yeah. I don't have a way out. That's a My wife's 40th. I will be looking the bunk with one of you if I missed that. >> I I I won't wait for

084July 20th and we don't have to move it. We've never as long as I've been on the board, I don't think we've had anybody miss the meeting. I would I would have straight up miss that one. You know, I don't want to move it for everybody, but that's just full transparency. So I don't >> and although we set the calendar now we do have authority later to manipulate the schedule if we need to >> just we just move the two that are on our known >> yeah that are those school days and then we can address >> next meeting >> a month ahead you know just in June we can dress for the month of July or just keep it whatever >> and then for September what do I have to do to figure out

085if we can move that one >> let's figure out if we can with the budget hearing Good. Is that kind of the same idea? >> I don't remember the rules. Sir, >> Gretchen's part of a an organization of all of the um assistance for executive assistance for districts. You can ask through that. Um and we can also, you know, obviously try to figure out other changes. >> I'm sure there's a process. >> Yeah, I'm fairly certain. >> Yeah. Well, I'll make a motion. You want to do something? No, I was going to say I have I do have a conflict on December 14th. I had planned a vacation around the normal schedule meeting which was the third meeting. So it's >> Christmas break. >> I made sure I was home for the board meeting. >>

086Look at you. >> I I planned it the week before. That doesn't mean that we have to figure out >> we can leave it. You can keep it. It doesn't matter. And then as it gets closer like a couple meetings this year. >> Yeah, we did. >> So, it's just the ones that are cut off. No, I was going to make a motion to just approve. >> I'll make a motion to approve the school board calendar >> as presented with two changes. The December meeting moving to December 14th, 2026 and the January move meeting moving to January 11th, 2027. >> I second. All in >> favor? All right. >> All right. Moving forward with the district updates. >> Yes. Um so that was that that's just great. Again, thank you. Um just we're very excited

087about that. um we um we had made an initiative to do the America 250th Act 95 and then it became law. Um and so I just want to share with you a little bit about what what we've done already here at Northshore Middle School, what the plan is for North and for South. Um at Northshore Middle School, the students reflected on the symbolic meaning of the American flag and expressed their personal connection to the nation's history and future within their social studies classrooms. Um they the activities that they had were discussing America's 250 years, the milestones, democracy, the evolution of the flag, the symbol of the flag, and the future. Um the living flag students answered three questions. What do you think of when you think of America? What does America mean to you personally?

088And what is one hope you have for America's future? Students will wrap up by sharing their biggest hopes for the next 250 years. And they had an American flag treat during lunchtime from the cafeteria. If you haven't had the opportunity, we do have these living flags in each of our wings here at Northshore Middle School. We do have some pictures up on um face on Facebook. Um and and the kids, it was a great day for the kids. Um at South uh theirs is May 25th. Um students are going to study and celebrate the different symbols in America. Um the activities include their pledge together outside at the flag pole. Um, and then a big group photo at the flag pole. Grade level colors to wear will be third grade will wear blue, fourth grade

089will wear red, fifth grade will wear white. Um, third grade is studying and sharing the symbolism of our country within the history of our national parks. Um, and then fourth grade will be studying and sharing the symbolism of the eagle and its representation throughout history. Fifth grade is going to um talk about American symbolism represented through students poems, haikus, and art. and we'll have multi-age group time to share learning across grade levels. So, that's pretty exciting happening over at South. And then at North will be June 3rd. Students will gather for an assembly to celebrate the semiquincentennial in the national monuments. Thank you for that word. That's great. Um activities, pledge of allegiance. They're going to watch a slideshow of national monuments, sing a song, take pictures outside. Kids are going to wear different colors

090to create a human flag. and their activity is how I think we should celebrate America's birthday. Know that we are required through the DPI to complete some documentation um and submit that and Sarah has gleefully accepted that when DPI put out that we were required to do it. I what is the requirement on that? >> It's just a survey after allowance. >> Yeah. To celebrate. >> Yeah. What was South State? >> The 29th. >> 29th. >> The 25th is actually Memorial Day. >> Oh, excuse me. >> Sorry. >> You can have You can have if you wanted on Monday. >> No, no, no. I'm sorry. That won't work. >> Hard to coordinate a photo on that day. >> Just trying to get a team player here. >> So, fun things, great things happening. The kids

091are excited and and that it it's great work. So, I appreciate that um that piece of that. Um, I talked a little bit about summer school is is right around the corner. So, we may have a couple of spots, though. I'm just going to tell you it filled up really quickly. We've got a lot of really great things happening in summer school. So, if you didn't get in yet, make sure you reach out to Moren and she'll try to help get you get you some time in there. Um, we are I want to clarify something about the 4K. We've learned a little bit about what's happening with our 4K students and why, you know, why does it feel like enrollment is down? Is it just a birth problem? What is it? Right. Well, what we've

092discovered is that um the state of Wisconsin, I don't know if it's state or federal. We're in Wisconsin, so I'm going to call it state. Um that they have now um are allowing and it's it's I'm sure it's to ease structures for parents, but what a student can go to a daycare facility as a four-year-old, stay the whole day. The daycare facility gets reimbursement for two hours and 40 minutes of what they would normally be in school for. They don't have certified teachers. It's just that's called 4K. So parents are saying, "I'm going to leave my kid in a 4K a for a at a facility that I don't have to think about picking them up, dropping them off or anything like that. They'll call it 4K and we'll catch them up in kindergarten." And

093I know that that's the case and it's happening here in Hartland because we have 13 students who are H Heartland students who did not attend 4K last year and are entering into 5K. So we are seeing some switches with that, some changes in that behavior. And we also just have some some moms who just want to keep their little 48 months out babies at home. And I don't blame them, right? I talk about that all the time. Um so I think um there's more to it than birth rate. um there's more to it than they're just not choosing our 4K. That's not what's happening. There's some there's some shifts happening culturally. Um we're talking and trying to work through how we mitigate that and encourage our families just if you're listening tonight. There's the camera.

094We are encouraging you to please do send your children to 4K. Um I think obviously is that in in the education system, it's why we've made some adjustments with math intervention. We've got a great kindergarten teacher who's now transitioning into math intervention 4 days a week. Um, anticipating what our students that are coming in from no education or from a daycare facility, um, which I'm sure has all kinds of strengths to it, too. I'm not knocking daycare facilities. I'm just saying what we have in place here at Hartland Lakeside for 4K is really strong academically and it goes back into that cohesive K8 model that we talk about. if they miss 4K, they're missing some academics that we're going to have to make up for in kindergarten. So, I just want to kind of stress

095that Heather and I have been talking about a lot of things. Um, we we're we have a meeting scheduled for tomorrow morning, so we'll be talking a little bit more and there will be more to come as as we have that conversation, but I wanted to clarify that because there does seem to be this misnomer or kind of figure out what's happening to 4K. Um, that's what's happening with 4K. um talked to you a little bit about the portrait of a graduate already. And um the last thing is I'm getting some some emails now about when do we know what our bus route is and where are the routes. Please understand um we I had a really great meeting with the parents. Um actually our whole team had a meeting with a parent um just

096yesterday and to try to clarify there's a lot of misinformation out there. There's a lot of assumptions. There's a lot of thoughts and it's really hard to get all those marbles sitting on the table at the same time. They're going to fall off everywhere. We're doing our our best to communicate that out. What what needs to be understood is that the routes have not been rewritten in at least 15 years. Whenever that split happened, the routes were established. And it doesn't matter if a kid gets on it, no kids get on it, or 10 kids get on it. What we forget is that we rotate kids in houses and schools. And so the routes if they're if you're just picking them up based on the same routes that you've always chosen, well that doesn't that

097seems a little counterintuitive to what our population is. So Dman is in charge of that. I know Matt Dman is in charge of that. Dman um is mapping them out. We we Marine pulled the reports from scratch, gave them to Lisa Bird at Dowman. Lisa is running them through a brand new system and we will have routes within the next week. So that's kind of where we're at. Just just as an update to this community because I know that we're chomping at the bit. Also, start and stop times. We I don't think the bus company knows. I don't I think it could wiggle between 5 and 10 minutes on either side of the start and stop. I think there's some great concern about well if the middle school that's out at 3:15 and we're sharing

098the bus with the middle schoolers then what time are we leaving north and south it's looking like it's 340 3:45 which isn't a stretch from where it is right now your kiddos will be home within 20 minutes they're talking about the which is way faster than they would be now they wouldn't even be on their way home if it's 20 minutes from where they're at this year um but I will say that gap has caused some concern for people. So, we're looking at trying to see if we can adjust that second route um for our north and south families to have a little bit different time, but there is before and after school care um if that typically it's the morning that people are going to struggle with. Um so, just just reach out to

099Heather and Dave in their buildings and they'll be able to help you kind of get that all situated. We also are working with the daycare to try to provide um extended time and more service um because we anticipate that that might fill sooner. So great things happening in the district. Again um kudos to this board and thank you for for supporting the strategic plan that you put in place and the great work that our staff are doing. That is the end of my report. >> Awesome. Thanks. >> All right. Director of business services. >> Yeah. I don't know how I follow all that, but um monthly finances um we ended the month of April in a really solid cash position, just north of 10 million. Um operating checking ended the month right around 110. Um

100operating savings at about 8.1 million. Uh capital improvement um with a little bit of interest that was added is about 1.78 and the north uh north student activity account is about 12,000. They actually um the north student activity account I met with Cindy uh Cindy uh today um and that that that account should probably be renamed. It's really an intermediary account that we use um so that when we run like when we run our Square like all of our payments through Square and things like that um we don't want to have anybody get access to our operating accounts. Um, so I'm probably on the next finance report I'm going to rename it because it's really disingenuous to call it the North Student Activity Account because that's not accurate. >> So it's not any money for

101the woods anymore. >> Well, and that's where I'm going to go. Sorry. >> It it is. It is, but we're going to get those those >> separate. They're going to go into fund 10, but they're going to be on our balance sheet in those appropriate spots. um they're going to go into our operating account, but um on our books, it'll show exactly what the balances are uh for those different accounts. And Cindy's tracking down exactly how that about 11 12,000 needs to be uh made sure that it is appropriately accounted for. Um ordering purchasing pretty well slowed down. I mean, as we're we're beginning to kind of wrap up the year, um PO where we we've done already cut off POS, um obviously there's still some order ordering for operational things and building and grounds

102and and a few things around each of the buildings. Uh but it's really starting to to trickle in instead of uh you know, kind of really flow in. Um did anybody have any questions on anything as far as the monthly financial scale? Okay. Uh capital improvements. So, uh I just had we have the same three that are coming down the pipeline. Uh we've got a big paving project that's coming up here in June. Um that'll start promptly when school gets out. Um we're looking about a 2 week uh two 2 and 1/2 week window um that they're going to be out and working at each site. Um but again that's uh that's the biggest of the three. Dishwasher is is um the last I've been told it's ordered and it's in route. Um so um

103we're we're slated to have that installed before before 71. Um and then lastly is the carpet at um at the south library. Uh we have plans to as soon as school's out to get books moved. Um I know there's u some carts that have been lent to us by Elm Brook. U so we're going to be able to get the books out ASAP, get get the the carpet ripped out. Um and then um they got to do some work on the circulation desk, but yeah, we're going to start um promptly as soon as as soon as we can get everything out. So that's the the gist of those three capital improvements. Um all of which were budgeted for, all of which the bids came in uh within budget, actually under budget for many of them.

104Um questions on anything capital improvement wise for the next month or so? All right, food service. Um, so I I meet with Yavon, our food service coordinator at Chartwells, uh, pretty monthly for sure, but but often times more frequently than that. Um, when we when we look at food pricing, the USDA puts out guidance um, as far as what what they see as far as commodity pricing. Um and um she has some some tools that that Chuck Wells uses, proprietary tools, uh to kind of do some forecasting. Um she brought a set of recommendations to me. We kind of talked through them. Uh if you look at what I put together, everything's about 7 to 8%. Um outside of the stack program, which hasn't seen increases in some time. Um, so if you look specifics,

105let me just grab I do want to talk a little bit about Northshore Breakfast at some point too. But, um, it's really about again making sure fund 50 is sustainable. Um, this year um, we were hit with considerable repair costs. Um, and um, even without those repair costs, we would we're going to be operating at a loss. we're going to have to subsidize fund fund 50. Um the goal is is that fund 50 is completely self- sustaining. Revenues support all of the operational expenses. Um and really that's the foundation of the recommendation as far as getting those prices up a little bit. Um we've obviously seen a a fair bit of inflation over the last year, year and a half. um and getting those to a point where uh they're kind of in line of

106what the USDA recommends and we can fully support all of our operational costs. >> Quick question for when you say self- sustaining, is that meant to include >> mechanicals and other things or just expenses of >> it? It's supposed to be a self- sustaining fund. So when we have when we have repair costs associated with food service, they come that's a cost of fund 50. >> So why would a dishwasher come out of fund 10? >> It's not >> that's coming out of >> but it's coming out >> it's coming out of fund 50 but because fund 50 has no balance. It has to be subsidized by fund 10. >> Okay. So >> so the the the whole food service program fund 50 should cover all of those things. should that's how it's designed blah

107because the idea is fund 10 is is supposed to be purely for completing your educational mission running your schools supporting students paying teachers transportation all of those general operating costs of running a school district outside of special education fund 150 for food service and then fund 80 for your community service fund. >> Wow. >> Yeah. That that's why really if you're if you're running a healthy food service fun 150 you you can operate and generate a small surplus because you can use that surplus when you need to as far as >> well you're you're kind of supposed to >> didn't you guys use that >> eventually a couple years ago >> the balance was if it gets too high >> if it gets too highend it's it's like a tax haven you're not supposed to

108try to think that coies to as well we had to use Yeah, I mean there's there's guidelines. They don't want you to have gobs. They don't want you to be operating a for-profit business out of your fund 50, but like if you have $20,000 of surplus and you don't use it in that year, but next year you have $20,000 of increased cost. Let's say you have to replace an oven or something. Um that's really what it's designed for. But no, you're not supposed to year over year just keep building up the stockpile. Um, you get a 60 $60,000 dishwasher, you better have a stock. >> Well, yeah, but but relative to the operating of that account, I mean, they don't want you they don't want you to have $500,000 of fun 50 profits sitting there.

109>> Okay. >> Uh because now you're diverting that from what it's actually supposed to be. And you're you're really not supposed to be making money off of food service program. It's really to support itself so you can continue to serve nutrition and provide those services when kids are >> does that does that fund limit limit expenses and spending similar to fund 46 once funds are in >> No fund 46 is much much more stringent because if you think of the difference to think about that fund 46 has its own account >> it's it's it's separate from everything else not just the accounting is separate that money actually gets separated and it's only by act of the board can money go in or out and it has to be in line with your capital plan but

110it takes a board action to either add to or or subtract from the balance of that fund. >> How much do we get reimbursed for lunch? >> I don't have that in front of me. Um but I can pull them for you and I can tell you exactly what it is. I mean, I'm assuming that >> we make a claim every month. Um, we get about 12 to$14,000 is our monthly claim typically. >> Yeah, breakfast is much smaller obviously just because the amount of food served at breakfast. Um, do you guys have specific questions on any of those recommendations? >> Just a question on the collection. How are we doing on collection? I know a few years ago there was a lax in collecting on those fees. >> Yeah. >> So where are we at

111today and what are we doing to ensure that those come in because you can raise the fees and if people don't pay Sure. >> doesn't do any good. Um I know Moren does send notices um on any past due launch accounts. Um we in the past we have not sent anything to collections. um we had largely used well if if it's a fact of of means um and people just don't have the ability to pay we have largely used angel funds um to cover those balances um we have been very very relaxed though I I don't know exactly what what where the balances stand today I can pull that and send it to you guys >> is that outside of uh free and reduced >> yes >> outside of free and reduced and then on

112top of that once they get to zero balance like what if once they get to a zero they're frozen kids can't continue or or we put that in place previously. I'm wondering food service is still allowing them to charge. That's where I think our hiccup is. >> That's why I'm asking. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So I think I've seen ours go in the red. >> Yeah. >> So I pay it right away. It's just every put 100 bucks every month, man. Kids hungry. >> Kids hungry. >> Yeah. So, that's where that's where that that catches. And I mean, in all due understanding, imagine being the child going through with their tray and they're like, "Sorry, you can't eat because mom or dad didn't put, you know, that's a terrible position to put a child in."

113So, I think that's not a place that we would want to put our kids. Um, but at the same time, please just pay your bills. Please just put the money in the accounts if you're going to utilize the program. We are no longer paying out this huge amount of money out of fund 10 like we were my first year here. That's what you're referring back to. Um, >> to see if we've maintained some of those checks and balances. >> Moren sends letters every single month. >> Y Okay. Okay. And then there was something too where the alle cart goes away and there was like a >> Yep. >> fixed lunch or something. >> Yeah. You basically the only the only way that I believe the only way they can go negative is if it's on

114an actual meal purchase >> which would >> you can't go buy >> anything from the alikart menu >> right >> if you are. If they show up and balance is negative, mom and dad forgot, whatever happened happened, that's fine. And they come up with three ice cream bars, they sorry, you can go, you can come over here sandwich, >> correct? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> Okay. And then and I think it might have been I might be dating myself with the first year, but I thought too that we had put something in place that if we had a negative fund balance, there was some other activities or something else that got frozen. Was that true? >> Did we do that? No. Mm-m. >> But the big question was whether or not we ever

115were going to put it to collections. That was always the big question. And you know there are there are various reasons why why students have this. So this is why when we start to talk about these kinds of increases um hopefully it mitigates some of that that action. I think too parents don't know if their kids going through the lunch line and kids don't tell their parents that they're going through the lunch line and so and they're hungry right at various various ways. And so I I I think I can speak for the teachers when I say every single one of them has a snack box or bucket or basket in their classroom for their students. And so I just think it's a matter of communicating, making sure that we have freedom within some fences,

116but at the same time trying to balance that budget. >> Okay. I see the maintenance tripled um this year. >> Yeah. >> Is that an outlier? >> Very much so. >> It's It's been pretty It's typically been right around that 12 to 15,000. This year we're right around 45. >> And that's because the freezer. >> Yeah. Well, we had >> 10 spoilage. >> Yeah. Well, we had the whole fund itself is is is it started off on the wrong foot. We had $10,000 in spoilage loss of food. >> On top of that, we had the repair costs for the freezer. And then we've had a number of issues, just mechanical odds and ends. Um, we had to put that about $5,000 band-aid on a dishwasher that's going to be replaced in 3 months. So, there

117was a number of things that just were kind of very much anomalies. Um, when I look back, I I I even look back, I'm like, how could I have budgeted for this different, but it was pretty consistent in that 10 to 15 range. More recently, 12 to 15 is kind of where and that's where we we budgeted 15 for it. Um, and we're I think we're at about 44 right now. And then with the increased costs, is that connected to a $15,000 budget for next year or are we going to maintain a larger budget for maintenance? Like is are we going to get ourselves in a situation where we are going to be creating revenue up to the service? I I don't see that. Uh, I mean, if we had another $45,000 a year next

118year, we would we would be losing money in 550 again. >> Um, I haven't built the budget. The when my my current budget has another 15 in maintenance and and mechanical breakdown stuff. >> The other one that I think you wanted to talk about from the demo >> or maybe it was a question I asked was the North Elementary snack program. >> Yeah. Yeah. That that has not >> that's separate. So, if you could talk to that. >> Yeah, that that program um Ivon and I done did some digging. It hasn't been increased in what six or seven years. Um and it's lo it's losing money in its present form. >> So, um we we priced it out per snack. It was like 67 cents a snack is what the new price is. Um some

119of the snacks are a little bit more expensive. >> Cents more or >> No. No. That's what Okay. >> What the the new amount less than like a buck a day for snack a year. >> I mean and it's it's still not I mean if you look at it and you break it down, it's not an exorbitant amount. It's really just trying to cover the costs of buying prepackaged snacks. >> Okay. >> You say that that one levels itself out whereas the rest of them give you your 15,000. >> Say that again. >> So the snack program is basically self-sustaining. Yeah. You get your 15 from the lunch program. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Can you you um So, if people are on free or reduced >> and are at North, do they get the

120snack? >> That's a good question. I'll have to look into that. >> I'm not aware of exactly. >> Also, just want to point out that the free and reduced lunch is not a high or it's higher than you think it is. So, a lot of people don't qualify that could still use it. So that's why the negative balances might be there too are those in between people. >> Yeah. They're in the front >> of >> well I don't qualify for free or reduced but this is still a pretty big expense for me. >> Mhm. >> So I might choose not to pay that bill this month to pay another bill. >> Yeah. There's a there's a group that's kind of caught in the middle there a little bit that still feels it. >> Yes. >>

121Again the the hope and the plan is that we don't have to divert $10. That's really what we're trying to avoid. >> Is that it for your >> That's That's it for as far as the food service pricing goes. Um unless you have additional questions I can answer. >> Did you want to talk about the Northshore breakfast? >> So, well, probably because we're not going to make any we're not going to have any on that. >> Um >> so, if we want to vote on this or or whatever we want to do, >> this we'll make a >> Yeah. Look for a motion to approve this and I >> motion to approve the food price increase as presented. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I I >> So the the the Northshore breakfast program

122is um I I ran some numbers after we met. Um we're losing about $4,500 a year serving breakfast at Northshore Middle School. On average through this year, we've served on average seven breakfastes per breakfast per day. >> That's a little >> seven. Seven. Yeah. I thought it was closer to 12 when we first but when I actually dug in and had Gavon pull the numbers for me. Um yeah, we're uh we're generating u about $2,300 in actual revenue. This is this is if this is for the I extrapolated it out if everything continued for the rest of the year. So for all our operating days for the year um we've got revenue of about 2,300 food costs are about 1,400. Labor costs are about 5,200. Um estimated loss is about $4,500. So I talked to

123Yvon and I and I know there's a wellness component to this. So I I don't necessarily just want to make it about dollars and cents, but um you I started the conversation right now they're doing like prepared breakfasts like where we do have a lot of waste because it's perishable. So if it's not consumed on the day of service, it gets pitched. So I asked her to come up with a plan. We're going to meet this next month to look at are there alternatives that we can do that are more shelf stable uh prepackaged um and not that we're just going to serve trash cuz obviously we still have to maintain a healthy offering but things that we won't have as much uh spoilage and we won't have as much labor because right now >>

124that's the big part. >> Yeah, we have about an hour and a half of extra labor every day at about $30. um per day. Um so that labor cost is about right about $5,500. So if we can minimize that and reduce some of the waste, um I think it becomes um I I I in in my mind I also don't want to scrap it because as we talked about at finance committee, school's going to be starting even earlier. So maybe we see an uptick next year. So I I don't know. Maybe we do nothing and we see how the first quarter goes next year and then we make a decision. I just wanted to put it on your radar. >> Yeah. I think just here at Northshore. >> Yeah. >> It's not >> No, we've

125got much better participation at the other schools. >> Just so crazy. >> Yeah. So, >> I'd be curious if um kind of along the lines of how we were talking about a community input for the capital improvement if there's maybe something we could do with a parent group of suggestions or the kids what they what may bring them to pick something up. >> Yeah. >> Obviously, not the sugary stuff. >> No, >> I get that. But like, hey, you have a choice between these things. What would you gravitate towards more? And pull that into a less than type. >> Sure. I >> I think that sounds like a great idea. Um >> cuz I just I know that there are a lot of people >> I know I I believe you included are very >>

126big into the the nutrition of the lunch. >> And I would love to see what they could bring to the table if that's something you wanted to The last thing I want to do is just scrap breakfast, but I also want to be cognizant of if we have a something that's losing money year-over-year that we at least have the discussion of what other options do we have. >> I guess that was one of my thoughts too, Morgan, is kind of along that same lines like do we have to get snack through Chartwells or can we or is that a lot right like what what are we thinking about that? cuz I I can imagine when I was when I slept over at um South and the fourth graders were coming to the classroom and they

127had um juice cups that were ice and so they're they've got plastic forks and they're trying to get their juice cups and their their their spoons are snapping and breaking everywhere and they're right it becomes slush. It becomes a bit of a mess and so now everything's sticky and then they end up just putting the juice cup in the sink. Am I right? I mean you're laughing so you all you all know this. Um, so it's, you know, do is there a way for us to do something a little bit more homegrown for that? And and I don't know what the answer is, but that's something certainly that we can talk about and and see if we've got any any parents or families or people that would be willing to start to talk about what

128that might look like. >> We don't have enough lettuce. >> Not for like 28 days. That's you guys. >> We only have seven of them. we can get lettuce or something. >> Um, >> so again, it's a conversation we can continue to have. Um, but I'll continue to update you. Uh, and then we can kind of see how we want to proceed. Uh, but I am working with with our food service director to figure out what other alternatives we have. We're not going to make any changes this year, obviously. But for next year, we can talk. >> I think you're right. The labor part of it is the big monkey. >> Yeah. It's not the spoil because you said the total front cost like $1,500. >> Yeah. >> So it's the labor gas. So if

129you can find an alternative to that that's sure. >> Um okay. So the next item is Lakeside Academy. Um and I do want to thank you guys for coming because I I I do think this is an important conversation. Um over the last three weeks I've met with Allison and Kaani who are directors over at the academy. Um, and we looked at their budget. We kind of started to do some projections. Um, to be quite honest, they're gonna they're going to finish this year with about a $25,000 surplus. And that is driven purely by um staffing costs coming in at about 50 close to 60,000 below budget. They have been extremely short staffed. Um, we have two, you know, we have a director and assistant director over there. Um the idea is that they're not

130in classrooms regularly. They have been in classrooms every day um to cover uh the fact that we're having a hard time filling and sustaining these positions. Um so 25,000 in the in the black, not bad, but it it could have been much worse. Um when I look at the fund from last year, uh fund lost about $30,000 last year. Um so in in 2425 uh we were already subsidizing um uh we were already subsidizing fund 80 and it's just like fund 50. Uh it's a community service fund. Uh it it is designed to be completely self- sustaining. The the idea is is um because it's for the broader community. It's not a benefit of all taxpayers or or not the ability to benefit uh the the the people that benefit um pick and choose who's

131going to take their kids to Lakeside Academy. Um the idea is is that it's it's purely a self- sustaining fund. Um we started talking looking um we started the conversation at about 15%. Uh, we ran some numbers. Um, thought, you know what, I think 12%'s probably the the sweet spot of what do we really need to do to make sure that we're self- sustaining. Um, I ran that that last proposal at 9%. 9% covers costs if everything else goes to budget. Um, you don't have any you don't have any capital equipment that goes out. Uh, you don't have the uh any needs. You don't have anybody that takes insurance that didn't otherwise take insurance in the past. Um, legitimately, if all of if all of your costs come in at budget or below, you can

132sustain at 9%. Um, in my opinion, prior to 2425, there really should have been a a closer look at this fund uh because it was already showing signs of weakness. Um, on top of that, um, if you've read the news, Kinderare and Delfield just closed, um, very, very abruptly. Um, and it's for a lack of enrollment, which the center is seeing the same thing. Um, they have their enrollments down from a year ago. Um, they and just like a just like a school, just because you lose a kid or two out of each room doesn't mean we can cut staff. um doesn't mean that that our operating expenses I mean the lights still got to come on you got to still pay the bills you pay the facility cost to the district all of those

133things remain constant or revenues start to drop then you start to put yourself into a pickle um I don't recommend a 9 12 or 15% um I understand the strain it puts on families my goal in all of this in recommending what I'm recommending is simply a sustainability of the of the facility ility. I want to make sure that it's there going forward. Uh because if we're not good stewards, it's something that if it's costing the district year-over-year, it's not sustainable. And secondly, I just want to make sure that it can cover its own costs. Um that we're not diverting fund $10 to cover operational costs for the community service fund. Um, I'd be happy to answer any questions um or or provide any context uh that I have or I can go back and

134gather more information. Um, you guys just tell me what you need to make a decision. >> What's current enrollment and what's full capacity? >> Um, I wish I could tell you. My computer just died. >> Let me >> I sent it to you. Yeah, >> I want to say max was 52. >> That sounds right >> cuz that was on the license that we checked the three star rating >> thanks to one of the emails. Um, and of course my computer is being weird. Um, I want to say you said September numbers we're going up to. Okay. So, right now for summer enrollment is a max of 40 on 2 days and then it drops to 31 on Fridays. >> Now, that's that's the the number that are enrolled. That's not not the number we

135can have. We can have >> 52 is max >> for the center at all times. >> Yep. >> I don't like Google Sheets. I don't. Um and then September it looks like we go up to 48 M or um high and a 39 low. So it looks like Fridays just really dip. Um so we have space for what like four kids on Mondays and then it just drops >> steadily throughout the week. Mhm. >> Um, but is that with the change of the scheduling that you were discussing the two, three, four, five? >> You mean the the the summer program? >> No, the you I you were saying something about how part-time is hard to do because of spots. >> Well, yeah. Yeah, we were grandfathering. >> In in the past they were they were

136charging you could take your kid there for 6 hours a day and that was considered part time. I I talked to them and I said, "Well, is it truly part-time if you can't enroll anybody else on on like part-time to me would indicate like A.M. or P.M. like where you could bring in another you could have a seat in the afternoon or you could have a seat in the morning." Um, so we were collecting part-time revenue but really tying up that seat for the entirety of the day >> and that's changed though. >> Yeah. >> Well, there wasn't that many. >> No, there's only two families that use it. >> And and like we we talked we're like we'll grandfather them in and let them continue to utilize it the way they're utilizing it. Um,

137but it doesn't make sense because you're really getting pretty much full-time care because of the the capacity of the daycare is pretty much taken up if you're using six hours, >> but we're still going to offer 2 days or 3 days or 4 days. >> Everything that's on the Yeah. >> Um, I'm sorry. Go ahead. No, go ahead. So what? So with our current enrollment and the 9% that gets us back to zero. >> Yeah. Based on if there's no overtime, there's uh nobody takes insurance that hasn't otherwise taken insurance because there's a couple people that are eligible that don't currently take it. Um I mean and I I I know people have asked, "What have you done to mitigate mitigate costs?" Well, we try to hire more part- timerrs. That's really what it is.

138Because if we hire more part- timerrs, if you try to hire two part- timerrs instead of one full-timer, you can get away without paying benefits, which is I mean significantly cheaper. Um it's hard to find reliable part-time help. >> Uh that's really what we've been we've offered. We've had they had two go to fingerprints and then just no shelter. >> Jeez. >> Yeah. gone through the whole interview process, accepted, didn't show up. >> What's the current cost for hiring new teachers? >> What's recruitment, >> on boarding? >> I mean, it's hard to quantify. I mean, >> you put an ad out, which is something, and then check, and you've got a couple pieces there. >> Yeah, we we can't, you know, we use We can, which is a pretty standard platform for hiring anything educational.

139Um, we don't pay a ton for background checks. I think it's like $18 a background check, $12 a background check, somewhere right in there. Um, yeah, there's a cost to bringing in new educators because there's mentorship. Um, fortunately, we use a grant for our mentor program. Um, but yeah, there's always costs. H how do you quantify those? uh a little harder in education because you can't really look at productivity like you can like at some in some other instances or some other industries. Um but there's adaptive cost. It's just a matter of trying to drill it down >> because you have vacancies. Sometimes you have to bring in substitutes as you bring in and figure out these. So there's some sort of cost kind of built into it. >> Yeah. Depends depending on when someone

140leaves. I mean when you have contracted employees typically you don't have a ton that leave midyear, >> right? unless they're leaving uh because they're asked to leave >> because I'm just trying to figure out the the issues. There's obviously there's direct cost here. There's some indirect cost in different areas that come into it, too. So, if you're looking at a positive or this is a district benefit. >> Mhm. >> Um what what other areas is it saving from or what costs us save us from down the road? So, if it's 5,000 to hire an employee, sometimes in some places that's what it looks like by the time you're all said and done. Does that make sense to work at a level or at an increase and what's there for the the benefit? What's the benefit

141supposed to be for? >> So, I'm just trying to labels that those numbers as we go through. So, that's what I was asking. >> Yeah, I get it. It's just hard to quantify. Um, what what income or what change is the summer change bringing in? So, for those that aren't, >> if you look at Can you tell me how many I can tell you right now there how many teacher students we have? >> 16. >> No, it's some different uh 10 district kids and three staff. LA staff. >> Yeah. >> So, is that 13? Well, it would be it would be 10. Okay. >> SE center staff work full year round. So, they're they're kids are going to continue to need care. >> so it would depend exactly. We I don't have it right in

142front of me, but we built in that amount into our revenue projection. >> Okay. >> Um I could send it to you. I need an email. Uh but I don't have it right in front of me. >> Yeah. just because um my my issue is that we're so I ran like so the current model right now for under two full-time and I thought I assumed 38 weeks for a school week >> because there's 40 weeks between September or August 24th to June 4th 4 weeks of vacation for kids but then the daycare only gives 2 weeks >> so 38 is what I just assumed >> um at the under two as 345 5 a week. So that's 13,110 plus then a week to hold the spot over summer that we used to do. So that's

14313455. Then in March we changed it to okay 13 131 10. Then there's three different options. One is maintain your full-time status. So that would be 37.95 added. >> Yeah. Option two would be 50% weekly, which would be $18.95 added. Or option three is part-time, and I went to >> It's 50%. You pay 50% for option two or three. >> Okay. Well, oh, >> it's like saying you could you could pay part-time, but if you still want to utilize, you can utilize it up to part-time. We're not saying pay and get nothing, you could still use it. >> I miscalculated that one. So, so yep. Either way, we're increasing >> just under 2,000 or just under 4,000 already >> without this price increase. And that's on 10 kids, >> correct? >> Mhm. >> And then

144so then in September, it looks like we're getting six more districts in. >> Yeah. There are some that don't attend >> like babies and stuff, which is great. Um, and it looks like from the 10 that I'm seeing, we have three in infant. So, would that reduce what is the ratio for infants? >> Sorry, I should have asked this a long time ago and I apologize. >> Child child care is not my wheelhouse. >> I know 0 to two is one and then two and up is four. Okay. So, we wouldn't uh Yeah, actually you would for Except for Monday mornings, you'd have five babies. H whatever. Um but it looks like the 10 are infant ones and three. So they're they're actually all in the same room. >> Mhm. Um, so if those kiddos

145left for the summer and they didn't pay, would we be able to lower costs because they are in one room? >> If if they left >> like if So like we did like we used to do for summer, you don't have to pay. You don't have to come. >> Okay. >> But you still got your spot in September. >> Yeah. >> So those 11 weeks of summer, we're not getting revenue for those 10 kids. Sure. >> Would we then save costs? >> Can you lay off a teacher in the summer? Can I mean can you I don't know. >> Well, I I feel like we do because I know that there's some that aren't >> Oh, there's some generally or they reduce their times or we get summer college. >> We have Yeah. One. There's

146one girl that comes back. Yep. >> Um >> they have one that comes. >> Okay. Um so I don't know. I just I'm interested to see what that is going to do like without doing an increase, but you're still doing that summer. How much of a loss are you then saying? >> Um, well, based on those numbers, we would probably lose about $30,000. >> Okay. >> H probably closer to 38. based on the budget that that we built out. Kaani, u Allison, and myself sat down and compared it year-over-year kind of looking at uh increase for snack, increase for supply costs, all of those things built in >> because we and we also don't do we don't do that much, but we do pretty substantial snacks morning and afternoon. Yeah, >> just kind of trying

147to lay it out for everyone else that may not know it. Um, so of those 10 district kids, how many are those 10 families or 10 kids? >> There's 12 12 families, 16 16 from what Allison gave me the data, uh, there's tw there's 12 educators that work within our district. And of those 12 educators, there's 16 children that attend the center. Okay, >> I'm going to go little go little go little go little go little go little go higher level with you the details I'm lost listening so I'm sorry >> thank you first of all for putting it all together it's a lot of work >> and thank you everyone who stayed appreciate it very much for listening >> and I know you're at a big disadvantage because you don't have your computer >>

148yeah see what's up at the upper computer >> the difference between say the 12% and either 9 or 7. Do you have a rough dollar figure of what that would be? >> Yeah. One second. >> I had a budget here. >> And again, I'm sorry to put you on the spot. I know. >> All right. Here. >> I will I will say this to the board because sometimes we get a little confused in this while you take a look at that. Um, often times when we have these decisions, it's like, gosh, do I I feel pressured to make a decision right now and we're trying to come up with all of these answers and and so yes, it's important to make decisions when they're on the agenda. But I don't want us to get into

149a place where we're just frantically trying to make a decision just to make a decision. What I the the caution on this piece is exactly what Col said, like we're trying to summer plan and figure some things out. We've got some things going on with um community members trying to figure out what their plan is. We put this off until June whatever June meeting is 15th or something. June 15th, right? Then that's a different deadline. So, understanding that we went through a transition, I think some things were found without being completely um you know, open on on some some things. Um, I think we're st trying to figure out what this budget looks like, what what it all means. I want you to make sure that you're comfortable making a decision on on something. And

150if you're not, then then maybe we maybe we hold we we ask the questions. We we get the information to you. You have some time to think about it and we come back and do just a quick virtual emergency meeting like like we do like to make a decision that that the budget or whatever. >> We wouldn't even have to do an emergency meeting. I mean, there's nothing that says rates have to change in July. I mean, it's that that's just our fiscal year. That's what we've done that that when I talked to Allison and Keani, they said that's would make the most sense for their budget because then you have one rate through the entire year. But there's no there's no there's nothing binding that says we have to do it in July versus

151August versus September. That's the first and foremost. Um, to answer your question, when I said it would be about 38, it's 38,850. >> That's that's the 3%. >> That's the 3%. >> Yeah, >> that's that's the difference between 9 and 12. >> 38 38 >> 850. Wow. >> I didn't expect that. Okay. >> So, that's revenue coming in. >> That's re So, right now, >> that's not a loss. That's the revenue coming in. That's the that would be the the decrease in revenue which would put us in the red by about 35,000. >> Can you repeat that? >> So right now the budget that we have built operates a surplus of about 8,000. So it's pretty pretty thin. Um if if we went to 9% um we would be at 38,000 less than that 38850.

152Um, so when we talked, we were like at 9% we could probably make this work. Um, we'd have to modify some supply budgets, probably limit some things that they can order a little bit tighter. Um, instead of having some of those inflationary increases for supplies, keep some of those budgets static. Um, and we can make the 9% work. Uh but if we went as budgeted when we left that meeting, we're about 35,000 in the negative because we have we have total expenses budgeted about 1.285 and um revenue budgeted about 1.296. So there's there's not a lot of fat >> um in the budget. And just to confirm then that those funds that would be short would come from fund 10 which are >> designated educational dollars as differentiated from community service fund 50. >> Yeah.

153So we don't levy we don't levy any cuz you can levy and fund 80 tax. >> Correct. >> We don't levy any fund any tax. >> But that would be truly for full community service. >> No this is truly an anybody can use the center >> but it's an optional service. It's an optional service, but it's open to anybody. >> Correct. >> Yeah. >> But it's But it's not like a >> It's not like an SRO that >> or or a rec center where everybody could come in and and use a weight room or a pool or >> something like that. Yeah, you're correct. >> So, two years ago, we were -30. >> -30. Yep. >> This year we're plus 28. >> Yeah. Purely because we were way under on staffing costs. >> So, that

154plus 28 goes into this year. So if you're looking at the 30 some if it was the zero loan, it's not that 30 that you're going to be because you have a surplus count. >> Yeah. >> So we could hold off on a rate increase and still be >> or reduce >> barely. >> Yeah. >> If you didn't do a rate increase, things become very bleak. >> But that of some of some sort, >> but then has more back to zero then than it is a loss. Exactly. But in the future, that's >> as far as a fund goes, not Yeah. You're over here, you're correct. >> Okay. >> Yeah. What do you anticipate Patrick like on an ongoing basis? Do you do you see this as a as an inflationary facing increase or do

155you see no this aspect of service is probably at a higher than inflationary it's probably at a 5% annual >> just you have two two things from what I look when I look back um we should have done smaller in when we did small incremental raises we should have done slightly larger inal raises so if we did 3% we should have five because in my opinion this is a catchup. I don't I don't see it's going to be 12% this year or 9% this year and then 8% next year and 8%. No, we need to get back to level so that when we can start to actually make smaller four to 5% increases so we can sustain and just like we were hit with 15 12% increase on healthcare fund 80 hit with those same

156costs. So, >> thank you for fielding all these questions. >> Yeah. No, again, >> I don't I don't It gives me I just want everybody to know it gives me no pleasure to recommend increases. My job is to make sure those funds can sustain themselves and that's really the the crux of it all. >> So, if I ask the question, Lake Academy is what the district it's what makes us different. And I I'll be very frank. Tina and I have talked like what does this district what does it look like without Lakeside Academy? I don't want to lose it because there's many school districts that don't have that. It's one of the things it's one of those pieces that makes us different. I mean there's other things that make Lakeside Academy and Hartman Lakeside great,

157but it's just one of those things that like hey there's a lot of districts that don't have it so that that want it. We've been contacted by >> Watertown by a number a couple other districts like hey can we take a look at your operation. We're thinking of doing something similar. So and and and not that not that comparing rates is is the beall and endall for value but I would be a lot more not cautious because I'm always cautious. I'm always conservative. when I look at it and I'm saying, well, we're the lowest, which is okay. We're we're we're not here to make a profit. Um, but if we if if these rate increases pushed us into the middle or even upper tier, I would definitely have cause for concern and say, is this

158is this a cost problem? I don't think it's a cost problem. I think it's the fact that the dynamics of running a daycart are expensive and the costs are increasing. Do we um take any subsidies like if people can't afford? >> I would have to ask Allison. >> I'm just curious what that level is. And >> um because I also know that we another benefit is kids that are there may need early childhood intervention. >> Yeah. I see. And how does that get factored into the cost slash moving of those funds? >> Um, well that's all fun 27. >> Okay. Even if it's at the daycare. >> Yep. They will go on site. Yeah. That's that's not a cost of the daycare center. Okay. >> Those are fun 27 special education funds. >> Okay. >>

159That's cool. I mean cuz I know that that's >> I mean that's a huge >> Yeah. Yeah, the early >> that's a huge selling point to that daycare is our 3K program works so closely with our 4K >> and all that. Um, and then also because it is a benefit for our teachers to be so close and I know like a lot of them have said that the time crunch in the morning is extremely difficult. >> Yeah, get it. Um, yeah. I don't >> Can I just ask about wraparound care? >> Oh, yeah. That's not in here at all. >> So, that's different. >> We We had talked about wraparound care and taking the same 12% and applying it. That's what we had talked about when we met for budget. It's not specifically listed in

160here because I I don't really know why we didn't put it on there. Um, >> would it be >> that it would be 12% across the board because we're looking at when you look when the way I have revenue broke down, I applied a 12% factor to 4K rep before and after uh infant to 3K and uh 5K to fifth. >> That's where the revenue >> in fund 80 >> everything is. Yeah. All of those operations are. So that does increase its community reach for those that are concerned about equity equitable and how many people are affected by it. >> Not just the 52 >> kiddos at daycare. There's >> any anybody who anybody who they serve in any one of those three programs. >> I didn't I completely forgot about RA. Yeah, Raph's definitely

161the smallest of our three programs >> revenue wise. Revenue wise, not student wise, but um I mean the infant to 3k program is about twice as big as the other two. It's a significant driver of revenue. >> I'd like to put a motion out on the table. That's okay. Yeah. >> I'd like to motion to um table this till next month so that we can get more information on RAP numbers. But I hate that the contracts. What about modifying that and making a motion to push but approve before June 15th? >> Yeah, that's fine by me. >> From a governance standpoint, I change some things. >> Yes, I was a motion on the table that didn't get approved. So, that motion died. Now, it's back open and someone can make another motion. I would motion

162to defer a decision tonight but ensure that a decision is made by June 10th. I don't know that either. I'll second that. Let me make sure I have it. So you motion to defer the decision to no later than June >> 10th >> I don't know >> and Matt you second. >> Sorry Mr. President >> means that always call >> but it would be like a whatever I don't care it deserves it. It deserves more time. Uh, I would ask you guys already voted, right? >> No, we haven't voted. We're in discussion. >> Okay. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. >> I guess I just want to understand what this >> when does this happen and what what happens between then and now? Then now and >> Oh, yeah. I guess. >> So, I I

163since there's a motion on the floor, I have a clarifying question. Is there the specific timeline is not it's not required. It would just make budgeting easier. Correct. Yeah, we can we can I mean we can institute a rate increase. Like I said, we could do it in July, we could do it in August, we could do it. >> All right. So, from a time >> in January, we have it. >> So, I guess June 10th isn't a big deal. >> Well, it is these guys make a decision. If somebody's really considering, I'm not going to come back to Hart and Lakeside because of this tuition increase. you know, it's just gonna be worse if they come back and then you hit them with a 12% in September instead of July. That doesn't really solve

164their problem. >> Yeah, we want to be we want to have as much clarity as we can. >> So, that was my question for you. My second question that is for the other members of the board is does anyone feel like there's a lack of information that's needed? >> Yeah, I don't have any of the wraparound numbers. But according to what if I heard Patrick correctly, the the budget and the increase is across everything. Yeah. >> And then if that number slides, it affects all of that, too. So whether that number is >> 10 or 100, it doesn't matter. I mean, I don't know how it affects anything because the budgets as a whole, unless I'm missing something. >> No, you're correct. >> Okay. >> That just clarified it for me, too. >> Yeah. the

165the the 12% was applied to the all three of the programs at that same 12% rate. >> Yeah. I mean, I guess more time's not going to help per se, but >> I mean, you could I mean, the only more times if people feel like they need to sleep on it based on everything they heard today. Yeah, I the question is it I don't want to get to we push it and we all hop on a Zoom next Thursday and we have 5 million questions for Patrick and we're afraid to make a decision, right? It's like I'm fine jumping back in. Um it's going to be a hard decision whenever we make it. I very >> I feel for the teachers. My wife was a full-time teacher until we had the third kid and it

166didn't financially make sense to have three kids in daycare. So, she quit working and that was a loss to the teaching profession in my opinion. >> Um, >> you're a good husband. >> That's kind of how that's the world we live in. So, I feel for it. I also feel that it's tough for us to justify to the community that the community sponsoring. Yes, there's 16 kids in it, but that means there's 39 school teacher kids who we are subsidizing their daycare for as well if we are paying for it. Right. When when Patrick first when I first read this memo, I just read your memo and I thought we were 35,000 in the hole. I didn't realize we've been 30,000 in the hole before. And it's like if we can't sustain this thing, like

167you guys are great with education. And you guys are great with all this stuff. You guys, nobody here went to school to learn to run a daycare. We didn't hire anybody who knows how to run a daycare. We're doing this great service, but if we can't sustain it, it's a pretty hard ass to ask the taxpayers to cover it, right? So, I you know, I see both sides of the coin. It's a very difficult decision. So, I appreciate if we need some time on it, and maybe we all do, but I don't, you know, it's it's it's not going to be an easier decision next Monday or Thursday than it is tonight. But I totally appreciate it if people want to think about it. And clearly Morgan's dove into the numbers a lot, has a

168lot of stuff around it. Maybe there's stuff I didn't follow all the numbers as you were doing them either, but there's maybe there's something that you if you got you share some of that, too. It's helpful. >> I mean, I guess I'm more looking at it. Yes, it's it's 10 teachers, 10 children that the teachers. Um, but I also see that as a benefit or an incentive to the teachers because they can they're only getting a 2.63% raise. That's not keeping up with the cost of inflation. How are we then supposed to expect these amazing teachers to want to stay when their wages aren't keeping up with expenses that they that we're imposing for them to work. Yes, I get they don't have to use our daycare, but they're going to have to go somewhere

169else because they have kids and we don't want to lose them. But we're also providing the cheapest daycare option, >> right? But we're also a threestar daycare and a lot of these were not three star and they serve lunch. We don't. So there are not apples to apples per sear thing you're talking about. >> Um it is a I think it's self there's different levels that you can hit. >> It's like accreditation. >> Yeah. Three is great. Three is is good. >> Um I think >> it's out of five, right? Yeah. Um, Lake Country Childcare right over here on North Shore is a three star. I don't know what their rates are. Um, Grandma's House is a fivestar. That's the big popular one downtown. There wasn't much else in H Heartland. >> Well, kindergarten was

170in Hellfield, which is closed. But yeah, there's that's why we were like, how far do we look outside of our core area? I mean, I get I I understand that we have to be fiscally responsible and that's I'm obviously putting that into it, too. But this is also part of the retaining good quality educators that we want for our children. And are we willing to give that up? Um, do we know how many 4K? Cuz 4K rap is a whole different ballgame cuz that's half day. Then you would also pay for rap extended care. >> You can. Yeah. >> And how many are teachers? And not that that matter. Well, I guess it does, but doesn't. I just I just feel like there's so many increase that we're asking of these one population that is

171an average of like $67,000 uh salary. So do what you will. >> What do we Can you reread the motion that's out there, Chris? >> Sure. >> Morgan motion to defer the decision to no later than June 10th and Mr. McNeel be seconded. That's it. We're done with the discussion. We should vote. I mean, do we have more discussion? We have more discussion. >> I agree. >> I discussion. I think it should run at a at a net. So, that's where I kind of sit. It should be a benefit, but it shouldn't be a loss to the district as it goes to know about profit center, but running into that that that net zero. That's where I'm at, too. My thoughts on the motion on the table are I I I would recommend voting no

172for it and then taking a possible vote this evening for a decision just to get something made unless unless there is information that people don't have that would affect their decision. I think we owe it to the community and to get people answers as soon as possible. Again, unless there's critical information that could potentially change your decision, I don't think it's responsible to just wait. Again, unless there's tangible information. So, I would suggest voting no. I don't I don't have an issue waiting. I just don't I I but if we vote to wait you know people to get their questions to Patrick I mean now it needs to happen pretty quickly. I do this this topic got other than transportation is gotten the most email traffic of anything that we've had recently. I imagine there's

173a number of people tuning in who won't pay attention to the next Zoom, but I also understand that a lot of people had a lot of questions tonight and there's a lot to take in. So, I should vote how they feel as you should with every vote. All >> favor I post. So 32 pass. >> I think he said no. >> Yeah, >> you were opposed. >> Yep. >> Morgan Schwab and I were in favor. >> Oh, I sorry I didn't hear. You're a I whatever. Now that you had a vote, I would ask that um >> I am out of the office tomorrow and Friday. >> I will be on a boat, not a hearing. >> Um but send me your questions specific as you can and I will provide you whatever I can.

174Can I ask that you send the answers to the board? >> Absolutely. The whole board, not just the independent members. >> Yeah. >> As long as the board recalls that they can't respond to that message, >> correct? >> Send your individual questions to Patrick and then he will put them together. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> It just saves you a bunch of emails from different people, too. >> Yeah. What I'll probably do is if it's okay with all you guys use Google Docs at all. >> I'm just going to create a Google Doc. >> And I don't know if some of you guys don't use them or not. >> I don't. >> No, you can't. You can't do that. Email. >> Okay. I'll do an email. Maybe they create a form. >> Okay. Oh, yeah.

175You're right. Even if even if they're not writing. >> Okay. That's um then I'll just respond to the full board with whatever questions you guys have. >> That's good. All right, moving forward. Um, I do not. >> Should we set the I'm sorry. >> Should we set the date for then for that meeting? >> Let's do that now so that at least you know kind of where you're at. I >> mean, I'd rather get it done sooner rather than later. I just don't know how much time we need >> because again, I want to be respectful >> of I don't and I understand that we can also vote. No, we can vote whatever we want. >> We just voted to not make a decision tonight. So, we can't now go back and say just kidding.

176>> I want a motion to say >> yes, you can do whatever someone can reopen it. If you want to reopen, >> Chris and I cannot. One of the yes members can. >> So, I could motion to say >> I think you can. I want a motion to approve a 2% rate increase and call it a day. >> I don't think you could I don't think you make a motion on top of this one now. >> Oh, that's what you're saying. >> You I I think you'd have to Chris help me. I think you and I have talked about this once. You have to It's not resend your vote. It's you want to bring it back up and change your vote and so it can come back >> I think for discussion. I think it's

177one of the majority then would have to make that motion. >> I'll make a motion to resend my vote on their motion to a no. >> And so basically we are now back out to to vote on this. >> Chris, can you clarify what you said? That's a when somebody's with my motion, somebody's got it. Does anybody second? Wait, do I I I >> Yeah, it would have. >> Can we just Do we need to be this technical? Can we just like say we're government body though? Kind of have to. >> All right. So, I will second. >> Okay. So, we have to zero. >> No, no, we have Oh, sorry. All in favor of Schwab rescending is what you just saying. All >> in favor? I >> I >> Okay, now we're back to

178zero. >> Okay. >> Your motion basically your motion failed to crush this thing to some indefinite time before. >> I I really only have one question. When you were discussing the wraparound, Chris, you made the question or you made a statement about it being one budget. What did that mean? So, I had asked if there was anything outstanding that board members still needed to be able to make a decision. And Morgan said that she was looking for wraparound numbers. And I asked Patrick for clarification if the wraparound numbers, even if he doesn't know the fixed dollar amount, was considered as part of this total approach to the child care pricing. To which he said yes. So then to me I thought then there's not outstanding questions for anything financial. There might be internal struggles that

179someone has and that's okay and again that they can still vote to delay if they can sleep on it. That's okay. >> Patrick is the 1.296 revenue and 1.285 expense >> that's right >> that you gave >> Mhm. include wraparound revenue. >> Yes. So, I'll read this to you. >> Thank you. >> Of the one point, it's 1 million, excuse me, 1,295,360 is the projected revenue. Of that, the infant to 3K program constitutes $716,800. the 4K wrap 238 and the 5K to fit 340,000 even the whole thing and that's that's comprises the total >> and again the suggestion is over the whole the totality of the program >> yes increase the revenue stream in its entirety by 12% was my calculation How many are are we at max capacity for 4K rep? >> This is

18012. This is 12% greater level. >> Okay. Say that. I'm sorry. >> No, that's okay. It was my Are we at max capacity for 4K wrap >> or projected? Because I know we're saying lower RAT numbers, but are we looking at other alternative solutions that may then affect this budget number? >> Not currently. >> Okay. And it won't affect next year? >> It Well, I can't say it won't. It It always could, >> right? >> Um >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> But I mean, it's a projection. Um and 5K to fifth grade wrap is not full. >> No. >> But with the >> So start and end times, we may see an increase there. >> Mhm. >> That's a possibility. >> When is the last time the RAP numbers got updated? Uh uh tuition prices?

181uh two a year a year ago. >> Okay. So it is every year that it gets >> every year for the last three years. >> Yeah. I got a question like why all the pricing you shoot I mean you don't you may not know the answers because it's just kind of conceptual but all the information you showed that this is materially cheaper than the next the other three comps you showed us by like a 100 bucks a month at at least >> that's a week it's only a week >> a week so 400 bucks a month >> this is weekly prices >> so why why aren't we full just curious serious like you don't know >> and that's and that's what and that's what we're working >> when the new directors took over after Stacy

182left Stacy had kind of really created the program from scratch um part of what we t them with was being more proactive with you know without being get getting your social media presence being able to communicate to the community of the value we offer the benefits we offer Um when they talked about the three star rating, they're currently working on getting it to a four-star rating because that is one of the things that families do look at. I really just think some of that gap would be closed if we're at full capacity, but if we're not at full capacity, >> we are all we are also looking at we are also in conversation or I should say the director is in conversation with the licensing uh arm of this to see if we can get

183our uh cap raised as well because the license is 6 years old. Um so we were trying to get that re-evaluated to see if 52 if we can get 52 raised. I mean, that doesn't put more butts in seats >> or or more babies in the room. Um, but um, yeah, all of those are valid questions. >> I guess Matt, that my other question, unfortunately, we can't have a back and forth with the teachers that are here, but I'm just curious that >> one of the one of >> one of the email a lot of the emails we received mentioned, you know, this we've added this heart charge for the summer to hold your spot. Sure. >> But if it's not full, >> why do you want to pay why do you need to pay

184the charge? >> Well, it's only four off of max come September though. >> Yeah, you you could always there's always an option to withdraw your child >> and then pending capacity. >> What I wanted to say though is that concern is basically you you lose your spot. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's Yeah. And I mean the the the reason that we we put that in place is we looked far and wide. We can't find another center that does it because costs are fixed through the summer. If revenue just drops by 20% in the summertime and your costs remain fixed largely, uh that's a recipe for a deficit on an annual basis or you have to charge enough the rest of the year to subsidize that. >> All right. Thank you. >> And you're saying even with

185charging for the summer, we still need to increase the fees >> based on our projections. Yes. >> And those numbers for September, is that um >> confirmed? >> Not confirmed. Like is that steady throughout the school year then? >> Is what steady? >> Uh we have 48. >> No, it's as soon as it starts in September, it's pretty steady. uh summer drops, summer's lighter, but yeah, it first semester and second semester are are >> fairly close, wouldn't you say? I mean, that's what >> it looks like. We pick up like This is so weird because Mondays are 52 now in January. Tuesdays are 47 compared to 42, 45 compared to 43, 44 to 41, 41 to 39. >> So, we're basically staying at capacity. Yeah, >> we have a couple. >> Yeah, but that's only

186the infant care. That's not the rap, which 4K wraps at capacity, but 5K to fifth grade is not. >> No, that's is 4K through Sorry, Morgan. I mean I the question I have is um with our start and stop times is there a question or concern or thought about not full wraparound care as we think about 4K needing an extra half day but what about what is that what do they call that extended extended before and after care um so what is that what is that 12% because I I would imagine I'm just thinking that we're going to have some families that are going to want to take advant antage of that extended day in the morning particularly because their middle school child and their arrowhead student >> middle school isn't we don't have rap

187or >> no I know but if those middle school they start earlier and it's like 45 minutes they're going to need to take them to north or south and have somebody watch them because our staff aren't going to get there to take care of them. So what's that half hour increase look like or what is right does that matter and is that going to be added revenue to the picture >> it could be it could be >> and and you could like with any budget you're you're well I mean I'm just going to say it for the sake of everybody watching >> you're always projecting >> I mean especially on the revenue side of things because nothing nothing's to say that you couldn't lose half of those kids the year like or you could get

188five more kids through a year. That could happen. Um, based on what we've seen through the last year, um, I don't see I don't see that happening and I wouldn't project that. But I'm always going to project on the conservative side when when when it comes to revenue. That's just always uh I think I think being aggressive on your revenue projections is a recipe for disaster, right? >> From a financial context. Someone else has to do it back. They have a Do people since we're just discussing do people I'm willing to give people more time if they really feel they need it. It's going to change their decision. If not, I feel like somebody needs to jump in with a proposal here. But I guess my first question is people feel like they need more

189time. I guess >> I personally don't I only voted yes because I thought some people didn't and I wanted to give them that opportunity. >> Same. And I was one of those but the further discussion clarified everything that I needed. >> And so 9% was the break even. >> Pretty close. Yeah. >> But the 9% break even is because of the carryover from the previous year. >> Yeah. Well, no. The the way that we have the budget, the it's it's in its current state, we would be losing money. >> Sorry, we keep hitting you. >> No, I'm just going to be very clear. In the current state, there are some things that like like this year for instance, they have stopped ordering some things because their supply budgets are used up. >> Like they just

190stop because now does that hurt care? I don't think it hurts care. I don't think it's not a safety concern. there's none of that. The experience is is largely the same. Um but they're doing more with less right now. Um and we can continue to try to make that work. That's the budget that we would have to divert to um to make 9%. And and again, I don't I don't think that's a necessarily a bad thing. Um but I also want to be cognizant of uh if we do 9% and then we come this time next year and I come to you and say, "Well, we got to transfer 50 grand." That could be a conversation that could be that's not a reason to vote one way or the other because we could also come

191back and say, "Well, they made 40 grand >> and we're not going to give that back." >> Well, no, but we're not. >> Well, in essence, you could because if you realized that you made 40 grand, you could say, "Well, we're we're going to forego a rate increase or we're going to do 2%." Uh, it doesn't help the here and now, >> right? >> But you don't have a crystal ball. I know. >> I mean, my job would be exponentially easier and actually anybody could do it then. >> Yep. I know. >> Um I would like to propose that we don't do anything more than 5%. Just because of what we did with the summer increase. And I understand that that's going to be a loss and I understand that people aren't going to be

192happy, but I think we owe it to the teachers and the families there to not dump all of this because of past mistakes. I think we slowly get it up. I would even love to see not an increase until January 1st since we just did a summer. That's what I'm thinking. I don't know what other people are thinking, but I I am very much against a 9 to 12% increase right away. >> What's the What do we eat on that? >> On the 5%. >> Sorry, I just need to calculate my phone. >> Good for it. That's why I asked. >> Thanks. >> If we didn't have the summer increase, I would totally go for the 9%. The difference between 12% and 5% is um 91,000. >> I hate that. But >> what's the difference

193between 90% and 5%? >> 91,000. >> 95 and 5 or 12. >> But 9 and five would be you said like 30,000. >> Yeah. 9 and 5 would be 4% of 1.295 360. We're at 52,000. That's the difference between doing 9% and 5%. >> So, in essence, what what that would mean is >> 50,000. >> I would Yeah, I would be probably forecasting about a $50,000 shortfall at that point. >> Look, I I sympathize with the teachers plight, but you do this too long. We we gave the teachers don't get paid enough. I 100% agree with that. Um, we gave the teachers the max we are allowed to give under Wisconsin law. >> You know, you run a negative 50 too long, you no longer give all our teachers the this these small raises that

194were allowed. And that's my concern. I guess I would, if I could, I would just motion to approve the 9% raise to keep it. >> I think you're going to lose people. >> Was that a motion or a talking? >> That was a motion. >> So, and then you can talk. So, let me just make sure. Motion to approve a 9% child would be child care program >> or we'll just say Lakeside Academy tuition. >> Yeah. >> I'll second. That brings it to discussion. doesn't make the book. >> Yeah, I know. I just think it's >> I know. It's just you. >> And it's not It's not just the teachers either. We're charging $845 for busing for people that could use it. We're increasing lunch very minimally. I get it. We're increasing daycare for people

195that need it. We're increasing we're increasing all of these costs that I don't know when we start to say enough is enough. And I get it. Funding, state funding is horrible. Governmental funding is horrible. I just am at a loss of what to do. And it sucks because I think we're going to lose some really good educators because of this. Is there any opportunity, any way that we could add a small tidbit into this? >> You can talk. Well, can they >> I know it's not supposed to be back and forth. >> Clerk legally. >> I shouted it on my way out. >> Yeah, I sympathize everything you're saying as well, Morgan. But I mean, we're increasing to break even. I'd have a different stance if we were increasing to create revenue. >> Patrick, out

196of curiosity, what what is 1%. >> I'm sorry. I promise you I'm trying to ask really high questions. >> 130,000. >> Yeah, >> nice math. >> What would be a 9 to 8% difference is what when I say 1%. >> Yeah, it's 130. >> Just call it 130. Is that much? >> Wait, but how is 12 to 9 only 30,000? >> Oh, 1%. Sorry. >> No, no, no. He's trying to talk about a percent. I was I mean I may maybe you're thinking the same way. Like I'm I'm willing to budget to a small loss in the optimistic hope that we can get some some air cover and get do some do better. >> But I I I >> I can't budge. I can't the 5% the $50,000 loss. I I I can't get behind

197that and I'm sorry and I know that that bites everybody and it sucks. But it's also, you know, at some point if if this thing can't sustain, as you said, if this thing can't sustain itself, it just it just goes away. I mean, we can't I get what you're saying, Morgan. All this stuff is adding up, but then you get to Arrowhead in 5 years where they're now firing the highest tenure teachers because they're the highest cost people and the the town folks show up at Pitchforks for 3 weeks, right? You know, it's like it's it's a I would swear because I swear a lot, but it's a crappy situation. And it is, you know, if you're pissed off about it, if you're pissed off about the school, you know, vote, right? But this isn't

198a voting issue. I think a lot of people are pissed off about it on both sides if they're blue or red. But unfortunately, I don't think it's an issue people vote on. They vote on other things. So, I think there's a lot, yes, we can all blame the Republicans who've controlled the House and the Senate and all this stuff for years and years. I imagine there's plenty of Republicans out there who don't like the way schools are funding, but they don't vote that way because they have other issues that are more important. So until this becomes a bigger issue, >> you know, I don't know what the answer is, but I struggle with the So my thinking where I was going to go, I I know your motion's out there, so we're talking about it.

199Whereas if you were going to somewhere like could we budget to a 7 and 12% increase or an 8% that's >> what I was asking for is the earlier point that Morgan made with the extra revenue from the unanticipated sum with that >> where could we position it to where we roll the dice >> probably >> where we're close to okay that extra makes up for it and even if we operate at a loss well we've got a little bit of black Yeah, >> kind of covers. That's the number I'm looking for. >> It's seven. >> All right, then. I'd like to make >> Well, we got to we got to second. >> No, there it did. >> I seconded it. So, right now there's a motion on the floor. We're in the discussion period.

200>> So, I'm I would like to make a motion to amend the motion on the floor and change it from 9 to 7%. >> I'd second that. All right. Give me just a minute to catch up. Thank you for your patience. I'm typing as fast as I can. >> Clearly, you didn't take me to speak and teach us typing. >> You're bragging about 100 words per minute. >> I can, but I'm under pressure and trying to think. I was just sitting quietly. All right. So, now it's seconded. Now it's up for discussion. So, the motion on the floor now is to amend the previous motion to approve a Lakeside Tuition Academy increase from 9 to 7. We're not saying yes or no. We're saying yes or no to the amended motion. Any other discussion on

201that? All in favor? >> I opposed. No >> motion approves >> to amend. >> Now we have to do a motion to approve. >> Oh, now we will need a motion to approve 7%. >> Sorry, clerk dudes. I'm still over your train. >> So now, so as the clerk, I can read it for you. The motion, the active motion on the floor now that it's been amended is to approve a 7% Lakeside Tuition Academy increase. >> Second. Do we need a second? >> I'm confused. >> That motion was already amended. So now we have an action >> to vote on that amended. Well, then you can discuss it now if you want to. >> If there's more discussion around that, correct? Okay. >> Can I say something? Am I able to in this portion? This

202is what I will say um to this amendment and this decision-m I I actually do not envy you at all right now in this position because, you know, I I did the same thing. I taught in the same school that I had my kids and my kids went to before care and after care and and it is hard and I I was just saying to some some the staff this morning when my kids were in daycare it was $130 a week. Um it's a very different situation at this point in time. We came in here tonight and you were written up to for the course of the last week, week and a half on a 15% increase. you have you have essentially in this motion right now that you have on the table reduce that

203by more than half. I would implore our people listening sitting at the table sitting in the room to understand that is a huge shift from the very first message that went out on this and and I I also want to protect and guard my my district administrator here >> who No, Patrick, you did awesome with all this. a great job on but on top of that is I know and and just like it's been stated I I will say it >> we are having to we could turn our eye the other way and not correct these wrongdoings that Morgan you have you have you know iterated out our problems we're just here to for lack of a better word clean it up I mean we don't really have any choice and in order for us

204not to be late country not to be arrowhead or not to be any of the other districts across this state who are cutting great teachers, who are making decisions that are are killing their programs. We tonight you are proving by this motion alone that it matters. You're listening. You're paying attention. whether you pass it or not, for you to have come down more than 50% says a lot about about the character and the heart that you have as a board and and just as your superintendent to work for you and to know that you're listening and tuning in. I appreciate that. So, I just I just want you to know that. >> Thank you. >> All right. All in favor? I >> I post. >> No. All right. Motion carries. Moving on to >> Okay.

205So, I have a >> an updated 6603 for a shared physical therapist um that we share with uh three other districts. Um we have contacted other districts, found out what their needs are, um found out and updated the amount. >> Um updated the time, the percentage, how the costs will be shared. those all updated in that document. Um, a couple things that we have done that weren't done in the past. Um, we're the fiscal agent obviously of the 6603. This is our employee that we share with others. Um, in the past we had eaten all of the cost for any of her paytime off, any of her professional development, any of her travel. Um, that is changing with this neg agreement. Um, nice. >> Cost costs will be shared based on the percentages of of

206her time that's being used by each district. That was communicated out to all the other districts that we're partnering with. Um, not not a huge shift. It's just we're going to share her um as uh the document states we should. So, um, >> thank you for >> Yeah, that's awesome. Great job. >> I'd like to motion to approve the 6603 shared PT services agreement. >> A second. Before you guys leave, I just need signatures from you, too. All in >> favor? I I >> Oh, I Sorry. Yes. I >> Morgan, you seconded that, right? >> Yep. I sure did. Almost didn't vote for it. >> All right, board president report. Uh, believe it or not, I don't have anything prepared. Um what >> I'm just humbled by your nomination and support and trust and I

207hope to do you all right along with the public. Uh future meetings PPC um just for future action discussion we had talked I wrote it down as the capital improvement committee. >> Oh yeah. >> I just wanted to put that out there for the next meeting or absolutely that information >> um for that. Do we need to do we need to wait to next meeting? I mean, is that something that formal that has to happen that way? Or could we >> does it have to be on the agenda? >> The creation of a committee? >> I don't. >> Let's let's put it on the agenda, but let's figure out that it was governi, >> right? I mean, it's one more committee, right, for you all. The only the only thought that I had is because

208when we when when we first came on board three years ago, we were writing our own policies >> from word by word and so it was it was a lot to have and so then we went through Niola which was even more but we're through Niola and we don't really have a lot from that from that position from a Neola position. So I'm wondering if we share the PPC committee with this community whatever >> that's what I was wondering if we couldn't have it start in a committee >> can we go >> wouldn't it be better in finance building and grounds >> well but the only question that I have with that is we cover a lot in finance building and grounds and because the new >> I am not the best one to be

209on that committee I'm going to tell you that right now I I can work numbers but I don't know >> then maybe we keep a third >> I don't know from the from discussion We had it seems like Hagglin and Malti might have the most knowledge. >> And yeah, that's where I was at. >> Well, we can just maybe you guys can just do us. We'll just do a third. >> Let's figure I mean, >> all right. >> Like do people who like let's just talk about it. Who like does anybody have interest in the committee want to be on it? Like I' I I'd want to have some input like some I'd have some thoughts from financial perspective, but from just a straight like understanding what Greg and the the technical people like I

210outsource every single home improvement project >> in my feel contractors and getting your >> I've probably gotten screwed by every contractor. >> Yes. the first guy that comes in. If he's nice and it seems okay, I don't even go first just cuz I don't want to deal with >> he shouldn't be on the >> So the the taxpayer doesn't want me running. >> I just from my perspective, I think at least in this stages when we're updating a full 10ear plan, it deserves its own committee. >> Okay. >> At its own time. >> Okay. Uh why don't why don't we just think about if anybody wants or if somebody wants to raise their hand now but I just I I I financially have some sort of like it needs some time. >> Yeah, we'll just

211put that on the agenda next like I mean I'm doing a simple Google search. I mean, I honestly I honestly do think there's probably some folks in the community who would have some level of interest in this who would be willing to who might I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't know how you do that, but >> and there may even be contractors that we work with that live in our district. >> Sure. >> That might be willing to come in. They have no voting rights, but they would be >> they're resource. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. Let's let's think about how we want to do it. But >> okay, so put it on the agenda for >> I guess I don't I guess I feel like it's kind of

212urgent, but maybe it's not. I just we're walking into next year's fiscal plan. >> I don't know. >> I think it's more important to get it right than do it quickly. >> Yeah, that's fair. >> Yeah. I mean, we we still need like the MEP contractors to give us exactly what's needed to be done, not the generic you need to replace this. Exactly. So, I mean it's it's urgent, but we're not going to figure anything out over the next month. >> Yeah. >> Fair enough. Let's talk Let's talk about >> PPC committee meeting June 11th at specified time. Chris, >> I can't do daytime. >> Yep. >> I'm in Madison. So, if you want to do it, it has to be evening. >> Can we not do virtual meetings? Would that be easier for you?

213So you wouldn't have to worry about your dry time. >> Depends. I'm working. >> Well, I mean, but instead of taking two hours off or however long because for me, like I don't work at home, so I'm taking off from 8 to 10 for a finance meeting. But if I was at work, I'd really only have to take off 30 to 45 minutes instead of 2 hours. >> Well, I'll offer if you ever want to meet at 600 6:30. No, I don't ever. >> Oh, that wasn't for me. Sorry. >> On the 11th. >> No. >> Can you do 4:30? >> I probably could. >> Does that work for you? >> Yep. >> Um, we will be going through a couple of new policies that um have come through. Um, one pertaining to grooming that

214we have to sign off on. So, that one is coming. Just you guys know. >> Is that a Nola? Nola? Yeah, they're all Viola policies, but Nola gave us the draft. We're working with him tomorrow. Um, so I'll get that to you guys as soon as possible. >> Thank you. >> So 4:30 Thursday, >> June 11th. >> Thank you. >> Mhm. >> Any finance? I like those 8:30 meetings, but >> yeah, it works for me. >> Yeah, that's fine. >> What kind of day do we want to do? >> Do Tuesday the 9th. I can do Tuesday the 9th. >> Yep. >> Great. >> Say that again. Typing. >> Tuesday, June 9th at 8:30 a.m. >> All right. We'll be looking for a motion to adjurnn. >> So moved. >> Second. All >> in favor?

215I >> Thank you. Patrick, thank you. >> Thank you. Yeah, >> I I know that I >> threw so many questions at you, but it was the once I started