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12/15/25 HLSD Board Meeting

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YouTube / Hartland-Lakeside School District Board Meetings
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2025-12-16
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Waukesha County, WI
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10,253 words · about 57 min
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2026-06-09

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001And once I've been having that issue, signins for today. We are doing okay. Thank you. Oh, are you sure? >> All right, >> we are live. >> Let's call [snorts] the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. >> and we will begin with the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Right. Proof of giving public notice, Mr. Clerk. Notice given. >> Thank you. As usual, we can skip number four. Everyone is here. Public comments. There are none. So, we can continue. We can go right into committee reports. If you need a second for catching up, we're all right. I didn't have to write too much. All right. Um,

002to discuss, we were at PPC uh 12:11 um for 9:15 a.m. meeting. There we talked about the personal report. There's a couple janitorials and a and a assistant or substitute on there. So you'll see that on the consent agenda for today. Um so then there was a talk about [clears throat] excuse me AI and digital footprint at this point. Um not a lot of progress in AI still just kind of getting the grounds where Chris Dylan did take a seminar uh or an online training on some stuff just gathering more information from where we're at. So just still going through the where are we touching those those phases. Um but on the digital footprint piece uh we did talk that in January we're going to have a presentation come in to talk about students in

003digital footprint and we'll have a presentee for that. So excited to see that come in front of the board or is that just BBC? >> A whole board. >> Y and that is for third through 8th grade our programming. So we'll have everybody here for that. >> Super. Yeah. So very excited to have them come forward. Um and then on the other side of it, you'll see there's a Neola um update for just language and policies. Um inside [snorts] those, there's a couple that I just wanted to mention on inside there. If we wanted to pull them and talk about, we can, but they're in the consent agenda down below. There was one that is a new addition. Um and I just wanted to state that Nola came in, was it Tuesday last week or

004Monday? Monday last week to actually go over these with uh our administration and kind of with a fine tooth comb check out what was there, what we did have or didn't have. Uh one of the things that we had is um policy which is use of u cameras and other recording devices. And while we don't have anything in our uh our changing rooms that are there, sometimes students um would use a classroom or a visitors would use a classroom. So we implemented, you'll see an addition in there to make sure that there is coverage of cameras. So they're not in use when those are there. So just giving ourselves a policy to cover ourselves and what we would do in those scenarios. So um is there any on that or is that >> No, absolutely.

005Then we met um about that. Um I met with um Chris and Brian um both our IT people to have a conversation about in the event that we had a like let's say we had a basketball tournament and we had six different teams here. We don't use our locker rooms. So we might use a classroom or somewhere. You can't have media, cameras, anything in those locations. So that includes our own cameras. So we that's why we had those conversations um just to help kind of clarify that situation out. So we talked about do we think that ever happens and if it does, what is the notification process and how are we going to ensure that they're blocked? >> So just so you know that that's that was also taken from there. So you'll see that

006addition now inside that 9151 policy. The other one was a removal of 5464 which is early graduation. Something we don't do because it's not relevant to K through 8. And then uh 4432. Um I just wanted to note that there was an addition. Usually it's in yellow but this time it was in red. So if you see chiropractic it's an addition not it was a subtraction. Usually subtraction will have red light through it. Other than that, uh, we we finalized on policy 0167.7 and finally got to the bottom of what was really going on. This is a this is a matching scenario. So when we got policies sent back to Niola, they sent them back to us and there was just making sure that we had the spiderw webs going to the right policies. They

007reference a policy we didn't have, which was the allowance, cell phone allowance program. We don't have that. So it now [snorts] matches properly to what our policies are. So there's no need to bring it back to the board. it was just matching what we do have currently that was approved by the board. >> And a follow up on that because I didn't realize or you know we needed to follow that spiderweb. It's a great way to put it. So talked with Niola. We will be meeting with Niola on the 14th of January when we come back for the 35.2s and part of their work is going to I've asked them to please spiderweb all of them out to make sure that they all match going forward so we don't have to kind of go through

008this digging process that we did this time. And then any questions? >> I have one and I just want to ask it now just so we don't so we don't have to mess around at consent agenda time. So policy 5411 talks about promotion, third grade promotion, and it talks about something where a kid does like a a reading assessment that the board the board shall be provided the the students assessment and we'll put in place a plan. I just I just didn't follow why is the I mean we don't do anything regarding special education students or reading literacy and I presented that I wouldn't know what to do with it anyway. So it's like why does what I don't quite follow what that is. >> So that's all part of act 20. Do you mind

009if I respond to that Chris? Um the it's all part of act 20 which was put in place by DPI and as the decision makers when it comes to curriculum and assessment for the district. That's why it says the board. So we do absolutely follow this assessment. We do we do make determinations for the board. Now we can we and oftentimes last year you may recall Sarah and Lisa came and reported out on um students that didn't make it to a certain uh percentage kindergarten through third grade and they were put on a plan. That's that's what this is referring back to. So it's all supported by you. Just the board is the overseer of everything. So, if you would prefer I be the named person. >> No, I don't I I don't care. I

010just I It just seemed like weird because I you know I'm sure stuff happens every day where kids are assessed and it doesn't come to the board. So, I didn't know why this >> because it's act 20 and it's it's mandated by the >> legis. Thank you. And that's it. >> All right. Then finance. >> So finance committee. Um we had again a pretty relatively light agenda. We went through the um spending. Uh everything was in line there. Was a pretty light month in terms of uh cash receipts out. Um Patrick took us through with the financials. Again, not much money came in. There's just timing. Not much went out. So it was pretty simple. And then we spent a little bit of time talking about um there was kind of an all superintendent meeting

011regarding the transportation situation. Um there's been some followup meetings with the busing company and all that and so they kind of caught us up on that piece. Um they were awaiting some additional information which they got. I have not looked at it yet, but I think uh Tina's going to talk more about it in her superintendent report. Great. All right, then we are at consent agenda. And again, unless anyone has a request to pull anything out, we I would be looking for a motion to approve consent agenda items as presented. >> So moved. >> I will second. Any questions? Any comments? All right. Hearing none. All those in favor say I. I. I. >> All [clears throat] those opposed. Consent agenda passes. Great. I will ask I don't know Matt if you have it up.

012If not, I do is the donations. Do that. I like to have those read off to thank everybody. So, we had a handful of donations today. We or this month we had uh two totaling uh $6,000 from the HLEF. So, thank you for that. Um we had $500 from the uh mispronounce it family. Uh that's for the care crusade. So, thank you for that. And then uh we got some special Olympics Wisconsin donation$1 12 $25 uh earmarked for some transportation cost. >> Great. >> And I will add to that multiple other donations for the Care Crusade came in on both the Apple Pass and the e funds. Um and then also additional people just kind of brought in gift cards and so all wanted to remain anonymous but just want to say a blanket thank

013you. Um what a huge success and I will be talking about that here in just a minute. >> All right. Now it's up to your part. >> Excellent. Thank you. Um I will I will start with the um survey. A survey went out on Friday. Many people have already um completed that survey. We do encourage you to um complete that survey, fill that out, and um give us your feedback. Um all feedback is welcome. Um so we'll be taking a look at that coming January and making some adjustments to the way we do things. Um so thank you for that. And then transportation. Um I do want to address the transportation piece. As you know, we've been working on this for quite some time. I will tell you that the transportation piece is directly linked

014to our calendar for next year. So, as we start to, you know, wonder where's the calendar? Why don't we have the calendar? We usually have it by now. It is because it is directly linked to what are we going to do with transportation? Does it seem like a lot? It does. It seems delayed. It seems like it's been a while. There's been a lot of talk and a lot of meetings. Um, as Matt Schwab alluded to, we did um have a superintendent meeting where a lot was discussed. Um it's going to take a great deal of um collaboration and um um flexibility and bend um in all of the districts in order for this to work. Um we'll see tomorrow we have another meeting. Um we did go out to bid. We did receive some

015information back. Um we just need to have some more conversations. I am very hopeful that you will be hearing in January that we have a new plan. Um, until then, there's really not a lot for me to report out on at this point, unfortunately. So, um, you can plan that most everything in the calendar will stay the same as it was last year for us. Start and stop times could change. Um, and that's that's about where we're at. Okay. All right. Um, next I want to talk a little bit about some celebrations because that's what we're here for. We want to celebrate what the kids are doing. Um, first and foremost, the Care Crusade. Um what a what an event. Um what a great moment it was. Um a moment of filling your cup. Um

016for sure. And I had some members of the board there. We had some student the student council students were just great. Um loading the loading the all of our principles were there. Teachers were there. Office staff were there. It was just a really great day of um of giving and really truly understanding what that meant to give. and and the thing that we talked about most is um is really packing those bags with love um and care for one another and and had a great successful um delivery and um contributions from many. So, thank you again and you'll see more from the student council come February and then for sure um in the summer when we do rock the block. Um so, we'll talk about that in the future. So, thank you again for that.

017Um, also I we just happened to be here that day when the robotics team was rehearsing for their big competition. They did regionals. It was fourth through 8th graders, um, boys and girls in that group, um, working really, really hard. And we got to see the rehearsal and what they have to go through. And I tell you what, when we talk about knowing every child by name, strength, and need, that's their strength. They were they were glowing. They were just so into everything they were saying and half the words they were saying I was like I don't know what that is. What is that? Right. I had no idea. [clears throat] But to think that fourth through 8th graders are that advanced in building this this robot and this machine and they were talking about

018it and they talked to a scientist and they were doing coding and all that they were. It was incredible to hear them and to see them. And the and the great news is is they took fifth place out of 22 teams and advanced to sectionals. Yay, Robotics. [applause] Um it's the first time we've gone beyond regionals and they are super excited. Um and they compete next weekend. Um and they also won the engineering excellence award. Um so really really neat. Um we're looking forward to them and no matter no matter what happens this weekend, you are all um champions in our book for taking this this is the third year of robotics that we have. Um and they're really trying to build that and I hope that the district can can do that and help

019them in the future as we work to build continuity kindergarten through 8th grade in our robotics and STEM and engineering and coding and all of those pieces together. um in fact got to work with some of the coaches um and talked about a 3D printer. Well, we have 3D printers. Is there any reason why we're not working together to make these things happen? And so definitely new things and exciting things to come for the robotics team and I'm very excited about that. Um collaboration is um being tied up now. This is our second kind of ending of collaboration and I'm super excited about how much we've seen in the realm of collaboration. But one spotlight that I really would like to shine is something going on at South Elementary School. Um they do they're doing

020work with third through fifth grade teams. So students that are teamed together, third graders, fourth graders, and fifth graders. [clears throat] And they're doing trying to do more and more of that um to build a culture and climate over at that building. Um and one of the things that they just shared out um and some of you who have third through fifth graders probably already know this, but you should see them loading in the morning. They've got boxes. All the students are building um sleds with their third through fifth grade teams and they're each going and they're building their sleds and they're using saran wrap and aluminum foil and cardboard and they're going to see, you know, if it works and then they're having s'mores and hot chocolate is just this kind of culminating um

021concept and idea. Um and they're going to do it over two days this week. So really proud of that work. I think that's really excellent. And last but not least, we've just had a flurry of music programs and so to get us into the mood and into the holiday spirit. Um, congratulations to our music programs and and the great work that they're doing to um bring that language into our our children as well. So great great things happening at Hartland. And that's my report. >> Okay. Thank you. Very good stuff. Director of business services report. >> Yes. So, we met um as a finance committee and as um was already alluded to, October or November was a fairly light month as far as financial activity goes. Um October was pretty robust as far as um

022still some of that early in the year purchasing was going on. Uh November calmed down uh quite a bit. Um as far as cash goes, um we are in a very solid cash position. uh about 4.9 million in total. Uh if you look at the cash uh balances, operating checking was about 17 179,000. Uh the operating savings account sitting around 2.97 million. Uh capital improvements continues to to to grow with it interest bearing uh about 1.75. And if you did notice the north student activity account normally sits with a fairly low balance. It is sitting with 22,000. Um, just a note on that, uh, our Northshore Middle School band and and choir uh, did a a a fundraiser where they were selling um, quick trip gift cards for like car washes and stuff like that.

023So, anytime we're going to do that, we never we we always use that account so that if uh worst case scenario, anything were to ever be compromised, um they don't have an operating account that they're that they're getting access to. So, um you'll see that amount go back down. We end up, you know, um culminated all the funds or co-mingled all the funds into to one account. Quickrip has since pulled their money that they needed for uh for the fundraiser. So, um, sitting in a really, really good financial position. Uh, beginning of December, I know it's not a December report, but the beginning of December, we did, uh, receive about a million dollars for, um, special educ special education aid that was getting, uh, kind of chewed up from last year's spending. Um, so that

024definitely that definitely helps as well. Um, if you saw in the news, there was a a recent rate cut. Um, we are still earning a solid interest rate, but it is then brought down to 4.02% as far as what we're earning on our savings. So, >> great. >> Still still very solid. Um, but we I mean I I I don't have a crystal ball, but I would expect at least one or two more rate cuts this year. Um, or I shouldn't say this year, next year. Um, but we'll kind of wait and see, but we're still earning a really solid interest rate. Um any questions on monthly financials? Okay. Uh as far as our capital improvements, um spoke with Greg. I speak with Greg pretty regularly. Um Greg has been um Superman basically. Um we've

025had some turnover on our building and ground staff. So um he's been operating with with less than less than a full staff. We'll just say that. So, um, November, um, was really a lot about just maintaining buildings, doing some some deep cleaning over break. Um, but the the big improvement, uh, and sometimes you forget about this when you're talking capital, uh, was Chris Dylan and his team. Um, they did a a quite extensive, and I'm going to pull up his because I will misspeak otherwise. They did a server refresh. Um, maybe I don't have it here. Well, they they uh they did a refresh of of our servers here and um I I'm not a technology guy, but I can tell you this based on what he sent me, these things these things uh they

026they control everything from our lighting um to our uh HVAC system, any anything that's automated within the buildings um everything is tied together tied together. Um, and that was a a pretty significant job. So, I have to give give him kudos. We budgeted for for 50 grand. And, um, Chris is always a really good financial steward. He he was able to secure a bid that brought it in about $4,000 under bid um, even with tariffs and and everything else that he's having to deal with. So, I I really can't thank him enough for that. But, they they did that when we were um without students that week. So, um, he started just getting some stuff set up the week before, uh, and then the week of is when he could shut everything down and and

027get the new servers all set [clears throat] up and running. So, huge shout out to him and and his team. >> Great. >> Yes. >> Thanks. Thanks, Chris and team. Okay, next on to the board president report. Have a couple of things. First one is on Arrowhead and the discussion that took place at their last meeting. And then the other one is I just wanted to bring to your attention a couple of assembly bills that could relate to that a little bit just so that you know it's out there. You can go to the Wisconsin website for those. Uh so at the last Arrowhead meeting the administration and the board talked through the potential of limiting open enrollment. So the open enrollment will get decided by Arrowhead in January. And what they're looking at is

028a potential reduction to the point of outside of the district could end up being turned off. They might turn off open enrollment. And the reason that I wanted to bring that here is that could have a significant impact on the feeder districts because of the amount of open enrollment. And it's something that I think we should at least talk about and be aware of so that if that decision does get pushed down, what does that mean to us, Patrick? What does that mean to our finances? I mean from the the numbers that I saw I mean there's a decent number of open enrollment. Now the the question is and what we have to keep in mind is there's a difference between in the feeders open enrollment between districts that's that doesn't matter but we run

029the risk of if we have open enrollment from outside of the Arrowhead district coming in. If those families find out that they're not allowed to go to Arrowhead, maybe they would pull out of the feeder districts. They might. Now we have some of the best districts in all of the state K through eight. So they may not but it still runs a risk. Now some of the other districts are in a much more difficult position than we are with the number of students. Uh do you happen to know off the top of your head what we have from out of district? >> Uh yeah actually >> if not I think I have a number. >> It's it's 6.6% or 71 students. >> Okay. I had a 77 in my head. So we're close out of

030Arrowhead district or out of land district. >> That's out of Arrowhead. >> Y so that 71 would be affected [clears throat] if this were to >> but they're always affected because they don't have to be accepted into Arrowhead. That doesn't mean they're guaranteed a spot at guaranteed >> by going to our school. So they're always running the risk. Correct. But historically, >> correct historically they've kind of gone and what so the policy so there were two things that got discussed at at Arrowhead on this one was an update to policy language regarding open enrollment and then the second one was more of a loose conversation about this potential change for the future and the board will look at that maybe in January and have more more serious discussions on it. So the first thing that

031changed was the [clears throat] policy and the existing policy that they updated all but assured that eighth graders that would apply in the open enrollment program from from feeders would have a pre would get preferential treatment. So they would have better position to get in. So if they open up x amount of seats ones that are already in the district that are eighth grade, they would have preference. >> The non-resident, >> correct? But if they're already in the feeders. Yes. So that was that was something that got pushed through um and the policy got updated. So that means if you're an eighth grader at Swallow or an eighth grader at Dart Lakeside, you would have preference in the pool of the number of open enrollment in and that's if you're an outside the district student.

032Okay. Uh then the second thing that I said that was brought up loosely was that discussion and part of that was about right sizing arrowhead and the potential to try and get all students underneath one roof. That's where part of the number is. Then when you look at it initially you think well it's not much. It's only say 50 70 kids that might be coming but times four grades. Now you do that, it could be upwards of 220 to 300 kids that might be affected. >> 71 across. >> Yes. >> It's it's cross our whole our whole thing. Yep. >> Right. >> So if you combine all of the feeders together, >> yeah, the number of eighth graders that could be affected might be I'm going to make up a number because I don't remember

033it off hand, but let's say 55 or 60. So when you hear that, you think, "Oh, that's probably not a big deal. How's that going to move the needle or help much?" Well, now multiply it by four grades. And if it es and flows, >> it's like half hour less, >> right? You know, if you have 60 or 70, that's 280 [clears throat] students. >> Well, that changes things for what potential referendum and right sizing of one building might look like in the future. So again, no decisions have been made. It was just something that's been talked about. Uh Arrowhead's financial situation isn't super. They have a lot of maintenance and they're losing somewhere between $750,000 and a million dollars a year on duplication of services between the two buildings with staff and inefficiencies. So

034at some point they have to do something. So that is something that's under consideration. I wanted to make sure that we had an opportunity to be aware and then to talk about it in case there's anything we wanted to proactively either do or at least talk through them if it became a reality someday. >> So pretty much the most aggressive thing we could do if this is a big piece would be write a letter as a board and send it up and just say hey we want you to think about how this affects all areas as a board if something to do otherwise it's a out there >> and it's outside of our direct control. There's nothing we can do about it. >> Sorry, I have a [clears throat] governance question for clarity. >> Sure.

035>> Um, so we're talking about open enrollment and obviously having board members that are serving on both boards and having >> board member >> I'm just saying that having board members serve on both boards. I just want to um talk about the clarification on how disclosure or recusal is handled when decisions from either district negatively affect the other district and what our policy would be. >> Well, I don't believe the policy says anything about serving on two different boards. >> It's not what I asked. >> Okay, then can you restate the question so I make sure I answer? I'd appreciate clarification on how disclosure or recusal is handed when handled when decisions may negatively affect either district. >> Well, the disclosure the meetings are public so I'm not sure what you're looking for. >> Thank

036you. I'm just to be clear, I just want to know is there a standard disclosure or recusal practice we follow? I think what she's asking and look I I >> just ask you you need you personally need to be careful in those discussions um I totally understand why Arrowhead would want to do this like the community has voted twice that they're not willing to support these two schools arrowhead is in a very difficult situation so that board as representatives of Arrowhead is trying to do what's best for them and you're on that board. >> If [clears throat] if this goes in place, if we lost all 71 of these students, that would take be an $830,000 hit to our budget, >> right? >> Not quite. >> It's about 11,000 a kid. >> Uh 10,102. >>

037So about 700,000. >> Yeah. But you're still materially. Yes. It's a million dollars. >> It's a significant hit. So if you're sitting in that room in with that hat, [clears throat] you know, your your best option for this for Arrowhead School may indeed be yes, we should limit enrollment when the vote comes up in January. >> Okay? >> Right? That is not the best, at least in my opinion, that is not the best option for Hartland Lakeside. Right? And so sitting in this room advocating that hey we need to get aggressive and take it in there. You know, you just need to be you're in a difficult situation. You are I mean it's like if you were on two corporate boards and one was going to try and take over the other and they didn't

038want to do it. You know, you would have to say I'm out of this discussion. And so, you know, I don't I'm not trying to say you're doing anything wrong or you're doing you were elected to two boards. Okay. >> I just think you need to be careful in those discussions because it is, you know, it is definitely puts us in a difficult situation. Um, you know, two years ago we had 40 less students from the in-n-out thing and at 11,000 bucks ahead, you know, it's 400,000 bucks and change, right? >> A mandate on Tina was, hey, we want to get people in here and she's been doing all she can to do that. Now, I don't know if she's she's promoting it and a student comes in from a con like, "Hey, it's great.

039Well, what what about what do we do when we get to eighth grade?" Well, you got to go find somewhere else, right? And so, it's puts her and our administration who have been trying to push this in a difficult situation. So, bioly is, you know, you need to be careful in those discussions. I don't know how you I think what she's asking is how are you dealing with those? Yeah, the diff the difficult part is there's nothing that's been presented yet. There's nothing more than a potential a discussion. And what I personally asked for at the last meeting was I need to see data first. I haven't seen anything that justifies doing that from a financial standpoint other than well, it might help a smaller referendum go through. if that's what they're making the decision

040on, that to me that doesn't make any sense because what happens if a potential referendum doesn't go through and they reduce their student count by 200, they're going to be even in bigger trouble. So, for one, nothing nothing formal has been presented and no data has been presented. So, that that makes it difficult. The other thing to keep in mind, too, is I don't represent just Hartland Lakeside on that board. I have the Hartland Lakeside seat, but I'm elected by the entire Arrowhead community. >> So, it it's difficult and I can't say what I would say or do until I'm presented with information. So, at that point, I'd have to decide whether or not I would recuse myself from the vote or not. I I don't know. I'd have to see what's in front of

041us and what the options are and how they affect here. But again, when I'm in that capacity and on that board, I'm an elected official of the Arrowhead board, not part of the Lakeside Board. >> So, I think and so I appreciate you helping me clarify those. M Yeah. And I do appreciate what you said at the meeting at Arrowhead. I did watch the meeting and I appreciate your comments about the, you know, hey, let's calm, let's slow down, let's get the statistics, let's get all that. That was great. Um, I guess I'm more I don't I get that there are all these issues, but I'm more concerned about what our policy states, how we as a board are following it, and how we can be consistent in applying that policy. Not an individual. I'm

042not I I agree. I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong. I'm simply asking how we're handling it. And um would it be helpful for the board to clarify the expectations so it's applied consistently going forward? >> Well, I think the board would have to do something with particular policy language if there's something that's >> I mean I guess question one. I mean I don't think there is a policy, right? >> Well, there are policies that state conflict of interest of things that have direct influence over others. So if there's a direct financial >> which would oversight be >> then it there could be there could be and then there's an expectation for it not to be there but I guess it depends on each situation on whether it has a direct impact because again what

043we don't know for one we don't know what the policy is we don't know what the transition would be whether it would be say two years three years of okay if you're in sixth grade on still come on or it's no cut off next year. I I don't know. There hasn't been anything hardcore talked about yet. The other thing we don't know and Patrick talked about, we don't know if that means all of a sudden all those people are going to leave or not. >> No, that's right. They quit. >> I don't disagree with that. >> But we have again the feeder districts in Lake Country, they're the some of the best in the entire state. So, they may still choose to come. >> No, I don't disagree. I I don't personally personally if I

044if I had entered another school district and I had like a second grade kid and I was like those kids not going to be able to go to the high school and I thought you know I would probably start looking for different stuff >> because they're going to be with their friends the whole time pull the rug out from them in ninth [snorts] grade right so >> so >> look I mean I look I [clears throat] we can discuss if there needs to be a formal policy or not I my my counselors, you know, be careful, right? It's like you need to you need to >> Yeah. And the easiest thing when it comes to a vote later, if this helps answer your question, the easiest thing could be to just recuse myself from the

045vote. >> So, it's not it's [clears throat] not like I have to step off the board. It would be >> No, and I'm not saying that. I'm just >> I would just potentially Yeah. Again, if [clears throat] it's something where I felt like it could have something here and in in the capacity that I'm in here, then I might just say, well, I'm abstaining. And that's why I'm asking about consistent application. Like, how as a board are we going to hold our ourselves accountable and consistently apply that? Not just, oh, well, I think this might, but I can talk myself out of it, so I'm just going to vote for Not saying you personally. I'm just saying you're saying it's up to the individual. So if I'm sitting in a meeting saying I don't think

046it applies so I'm just going to go. I don't as a constituent of yours for Arrowhead and here I would like to know how you anyone can [clears throat] keep both districts a fiduciary agent of that when one directly could negatively impact the other. >> Well, the same >> and how we as a board have a policy that can be applied. >> The same could be said here with transportation. also that but we haven't gotten to that conversation but that was going to be brought up as well. >> That's that's another part of it with the transportation. If we elect if we choose to do something on our own that could affect other districts. >> Correct. So how will you I don't want to put it on you. How does a board member on our

047board handle the disclosure and recusal? Well, again, from a disclosure, everything is public. So, I'm not sure what you mean by disclosure. The recusal, it's in this case for me, I was elected by the community for two different boards. So, I serve in the best of my capacity for each when I'm in those locations. >> Okay. So, that's an interpretation based on what you're reading. Have we gotten any written legal guidance or is this based on any past practice? like >> I want to cover every >> policy. We have a policy for it. >> Awesome. Could we add that to a future agenda item then and walk through that policy so that we all are aware of it and can apply it consistently? >> Well, you can read it today if you want to just

048click on it. >> Can we add it as a future agenda item? >> What do we get? What do you want to do with that? Like what do you want on that? Well, I would like to know how we are verifying that there are recusals for votes that if there is a conflict of interest or anything, we know that hey, these are the steps. These are what needs to happen. These are the milestones or whatever that have to be hit for you to recuse yourself so that they're applied consistently. Not just today I feel like I'm going to recuse myself. Tomorrow I'm not going to. I mean, what is the I guess I I >> It's 11:30. >> 11:30. >> Yeah. Ethics and conflict of interest would be the policy that would be at hand.

049>> Is it is it long? Is it something we can just read here? Like is it >> um but >> it's it's longer and it's it's not really cut and dry. >> That I mean that was that was my recollection. That's the part of that's hard part with most of these like conflict pots up a lot and it's if something happened and let's just say you voted on something that your family member was a part of you may skew a vote but that could down the line become a conflict an issue but you put yourself you have you get to choose what positions you put yourself into and making the smart decision whether you pull out of those decisions that are there or not there based off of the knowledge in front of you I

050don't think there's a cut and dry for each individual thing that were to pop up I think that's the hard part about policy is it's you're you're going to have nuances here or there. So if there was a vote on something that doesn't necessarily directly affect you might vote on it. If it doesn't then you might recuse yourself saying that if I did this I wouldn't be able to at that point in time. So it's >> and yeah >> it's very hard to say in this exact position >> it would be that. that you're you're hoping well the the guidance is that you're going to make that decision so that down the road you're not putting yourself in a position that you made a >> a conflict [snorts] of interest >> and as mo most

051policies are written >> it's it says right in there these are guidelines but not all inclusive you know so it's it's it's setting an overarching standard with some examples but like many policies are because otherwise you'd have 7 million policies >> correct >> it's just it's a general standard of conduct that is open to some interpretation. >> That was my recollection from the training. It was kind of like it's like the old senator thing when they were trying to ban porn and something. I I can't define it, but I know it when I see it. It's kind of like that, right? I mean, that's exact use. [clears throat] >> That's the exact line from the testimony. Yeah. You know, you know it when you see it, >> right? So, um, >> I mean, unless we

052want to go I mean, for my opinion, I mean, we have to I mean, we don't have to talk and beg. It's it's Chris is on both boards. It doesn't at least this stuff doesn't affect any of us. >> I just there's multiple boards, right? There's multiple people on multiple boards and at that point, you're going to get put in different positions that >> Wait, what do you mean by that? Like multiple people. >> We have an HLEF representative here as well and there's spots where you might have to recuse yourself if they comes to those pieces. that's these are the guidelines for that and not not every situation is going to be the same but as soon as it like on here talks about financial and things like that where it starts to get

053to those pieces >> these are the guidelines that are there so I would >> I guess my recommendation we I just encourage that we reread these as we go down a a a tight rope here for a little bit and make sure that we have those guidelines there and if everything comes up there might be something to reach out and ask and and figure it is but these are our guidelines from a standoint point for part of the lakeside >> and you which is used across the board usually. >> Mad feeling we'd struggle to like lay out choose your own adventure decision >> and you at that point we're saying you need to respond in this way where he is his own piece of the board as well. That's the other part. >> That's where

054my council was is be careful and use your judgment. >> Right. I don't know how I don't know >> does his two votes [snorts] >> outweigh >> because he have a vote on this side and that side. That's that's the line that he I think that's line that he has to walk and at that point decide whether or not he has to recuse himself or not otherwise he puts himself at risk of what it could be. So if there's something that directly violates that and then you would say okay we've crossed the line but the guidelines here should be here's I mean it's laid out here and I'm sure arrowhead has their own it's basically the same what we have here >> I think so I don't care what arrowhead >> well he's he's going

055by two different codes of context so even on that side of it he's got to make sure that he represents arrowhead way and we don't doesn't vote on a heartland side that says hey we're not going to do something to arrowhead he would then probably have cubes or figure out whether or not it really directly affects that piece of Right. And as far as I know that the the consequences of those would then be determined by the board that there could be a conflict with. >> So that that board then would determine the next steps if they felt like those lines were crossed. That's historically I believe what it is. I don't know if you've seen anything in your >> past with other boards, >> but as far as the governance part of it, I

056believe >> I I'm sorry, but this has to be opened, especially with these talks with the open enrollment and busing. These are getting serious. >> This is is 100% what Hegeland just got done kind of outlaying and same thing with Schwab. I I if a person wants to recuse themselves, often times what you when you recuse yourself, it's because your spouse is involved in some way, shape, or form. That you see more often than not. I'm a board member and my spouse works in the cafeteria and there's a decision about pay, I am going to recuse myself because that directly impacts my family or health benefits that directly impacts my family. Um, I haven't been on in any situations that I can think of and I'm I'm I'm looking and trying to figure that out.

057Um, where where it's a it's a situation like this. Um, >> it's cuz we got such a wonky situation, >> right? I I get that and I stop, right? It's such a different and I'm not trying to say that you are like I'm not I feel as though it may be taken as I'm attacking you and I am not in any way, shape, or form trying to attack you. I'm trying to make sure that the best interest of H Heartland Lakeside School District is at which I know you do and I can only imagine how difficult it is to be on both sides with these serious topics coming up with how much one may be in a way better financial position than the other. I want to avoid getting in any sticky situations on our

058side of when we would then have to say, "Hey, Mr. president. I think you need to recuse yourself. How do I then say how do I then bring it up that the president of our board needs to recuse itself? >> There's policies for that >> where can YOU CROSS THE LINE? >> NO, I'm not saying I'm just saying like how would how would that happen when you're saying that we would have we would then say hey you need to recuse yourself. >> Well, we could ask and recuse. That's the other thing. It's like so as that's the hard part is we would ask to say hey we would hope that you recuse yourself when it comes to a financial piece of these things that are there. >> Maybe that's something we need to I don't

059know. I I'm just I and maybe I'm just like a rule follower that I want like >> I think it needs I mean I think in my mind it's kind of a case by case basis. Like I didn't even think about the transportation thing when you mentioned it, but you're right. I mean it could come up there too. And if we come to where it's like we're going to tell we're voting on something. I mean that to the other four of us that would be the point for us to raise our hand if we had concern that he was in both things. >> Um you know there's nothing we can do about what he does in that room in Right. So it's like in that in that room that's where you know >> use your

060best judgment. And that's where I was saying, Morgan, I I think the the governing board is the one then that would be the determinant if the line was crossed. >> Who's the governing? [snorts] >> Yeah. >> So again, we would then call out the president. Like, do you do you see where I'm coming from? >> Well, if it's against the president, you would talk to the vice president at that point in time if the president is the one who's in question. And if you're talking about something at arrow or sorry at heartland that has to do with arrowhead you can you can ask that hey this might be something you may want to recluse yourself from but that's also up to that board member to figure out whether or not that causes that issue. So

061you would be able to ask at that time frame whether it's involving busing and >> well then I would >> then you could step back and say I would like to recommend >> that anything with open enrollment and busing you shouldn't be a part of because that can negatively impact our financial stance. >> What does that mean? What are you What are your >> If Arrowhead then decid if you are part of an Arrowhead decision to cut off open enrollment, you just said we could potentially lose $700,000. That's a [clears throat] pretty big negative impact. How can you be involved in that decision? >> Well, what I guess are you asking that he not vote on that stuff, not participating in the conversation? >> That's what I'm asking is how what are what are those

062recusal steps? >> That's I mean what [snorts] what do you want them to like what are you what are you asking to happen is my question is like you know >> the process is he's got to use his judge >> how we consistently apply it like you brought up h perfect okay so what am I what situation >> there's a situation that okay you're going to kick h off off the campus not that we are but so I would automatically recuse myself because if it has anything to do with that I'm going to step up because I'm involved with both sides. But is that the proper way to do it? >> Can I be involved in the conversation or do I have to leave? >> There's It's not black and white though. Like if if

063you look at ethics or conflict of interest and I'm not trying to muddy the waters here. >> I know. I'm sorry. Maybe that's just great. >> You know, there's there's so many nuances and there's so many variables that you can never say like in this situation you absolutely should. I mean there are maybe some absolutely shoulds but like there's a lot in the middle that it's like well maybe depending if if this if that you know like so the policy is is the policy but it's it's open for how do we interpret or how do how do you you guys interpret it? I would also say that there's no like it's a figurative stepping out, right? You would you would still the conversation would happen like it normally does before a vote is made and

064anybody could say whatever they want and if if you felt like that was something that Chris should recuse himself. You have the right to say that, right? You have the right to say that. What he decides to do with what you have to say is his deal, not right. You can speak your peace and and be done with it and then he makes a decision. Same thing for you with HLAF. The only time when there it it goes beyond figuratively stepping out of the room. You would be here for the whole thing. Everybody would be here for part of it. Um and and would be if you're in close session, right? If you're in a closed session decision >> out, it's on YouTube. >> Right. Right. So, you know, a close session if it was

065a conversation, then you would be asked to leave because that would be confidential information that should never leak outside of those walls. Um, so I that's that's kind of how that that would work. Um, but yeah, I think I think the policy is the policy. What Patrick said, I think what Matt is saying is correct. I know that sometimes it feels like there should be um cut and dried response and answer to it, but at the end of the day, as a as a board member, you have the authority to say what you want to say, and anybody has the authority to vote the way they want to vote. And then again the the steps afterwards Morgan would be the governing board. If the board expressed a collective interest that the representative, me in this

066case, did something inappropriate, then the board can take steps as defined through policy with the VP as the driver. And then I think it's also whether or not we'd like the vote. It's whether or not it crossed the line of affecting the district negatively or even positively in some ways, whatever it happens to be. If there's something that falls in that category, correct? And again, we have to remember too that it's an elected position by the community where they chose that person, in this case me, to serve on that board. So when I'm there, I act for the entire community and serve on that board. And when I'm here, I act for this community and I make decisions based on this community, this board. [clears throat] Okay. The other thing that I wanted to update

067you on one more thing there. So they're deciding they're deciding something in January there. >> I don't know for sure. I don't make the agenda, but they were going to bring it back. What I heard bring it back. Do they have is that when you have to make a decision? >> They're going to decide on open enrollment for the next year. I don't know if they're going to decide at that point on the larger discussion that we just brought up. That's >> but some but they're going to have to figure out if they're going to offer seats or not. >> They would have to decide about those eight. >> Yes. Just as we will next in next board meeting. >> So that that's something for us I was going to bring up too. So, I'm

068glad you said something that is something that we will discuss and Lisa Shrock will be here to talk about um what our what our situation was. Now, remember this last year we limited seats um and so I want to make sure that we are cognizant of what that does and we're going to have a little bit deeper conversation about that um because because of you know having to try to um be ready um for what next steps look like for H Heartland. >> And it has a trickle effect too with other districts. some other districts will be in some really difficult spots. If that were to go through and those kids were to pull out, that would put some other districts in a very difficult financial position. Very very difficult. >> I don't want was

069there was there a lot of public comments on that for this thing? >> They don't let public comments happen at the meeting. >> They don't do public comments. >> They do. It's just like ours in a normal time slot >> before they have the conversation about the policy. >> So any people would be commenting next month. So I'm just curious what the >> Yeah. Which again is the reason why I wanted to have this discussion here. So at least the board is aware. So again the community is overly aware and especially for our district so that at least we have visibility that it's being talked about. Again no plan has been made, no data has been shared. It's just a concept at this point. >> Yeah, Alex, I'm I'm a little torn in the whole

070situation, right? That's like not not involved in your participation just on the whole thing. Like I mean, I know a lot of people everybody kind of says, well, I don't I don't want to H Heartland's in such a great situation. I don't want to mix with Arrowhead. We're Arrowhead, too. like my taxes going to like we're not avoiding Arrowhead's problems by keeping Heartland separate. I mean, they're still short. It's my problem, too. I got two of my three kids are there right now, >> right? So, I totally understand why they want to do it, but it can totally hose us. I mean, I feel like on some some regards this is a and maybe it isn't, but this is a show for Arrowhead to show the community like, okay, you don't want to pass any

071of these referendums. Here's our next best option, >> right? [snorts] >> It could be could be and I my big thing is at the last meeting I wanted more information than just a let's talk about this and maybe do something. where I'm saying I'm torn. I mean, in some ways like we should this discussion we should tell >> give Chris what our opinion is in terms of the district cuz I think he's going to have his next meeting before we have ours. >> Well, yeah, but my point is like I don't know what the best dance like >> where my heart is is would be the board would have to make a decision and we can we can do a letter or something on that piece of it or write an email to them. But

072I think sending it through Chris, would that be a conflict of interest at that point? >> Because the board is making our representation and here's what my board is saying. I mean, he can come affect No, no, no. My point is more this, right? Chris is going to get data and he said that's going to be part of his decision on how to figure out should he vote for something or should he stay out of it, right? Um, if we all said, Chris, I think what Arrowhead's doing is like the greatest thing. I think definitely do it. Yeah, like we we we were totally on board for them cutting their no open enrollments outside. It's a great idea. It's be great for H Heartland, you know, and that's the way the wind's blowing and he

073looks at the data in that room and said it's great for him. Then no refusal, right? Vote. That's what my people want. That's what these people want. I'm saying me personally, I don't know what I want because I sit in both. We all sit in both rooms, too. I think everybody gets so caught up on like, well, Hartland's so wonderful. We don't want any Arrowheads problems, but we we have them. We live in Arrowhead, too. So, I don't I don't you know, I'm asking us as a board, what do we think about this? Like, and I'm torn. >> I think I I agree with that. >> $700,000 would be >> awful for us. Seven, we'd be cutting programming and 70 kids is not unless all 70 kids are in one grade. It's not like you're

074cutting out teachers. You're getting small. And so my thing is how many of those 71 actually go to arrow? Like we have some people that would open enroll and then go back to their >> we'll never know the answer to that. You're I mean you're right. But the point is like if we were to give >> Chris guidance and what this I think Chris should have some guidance on what this board thinks. But I don't know that >> but he shouldn't be using that with his decision because when he's in that room he's arrowhead. But I think he I think he needs to because >> that's what I'm saying though is that how can he do both? >> If we take Chris out [snorts] of this scenario right here, you're kind of >> up in

075the air on what this looks like and there's some things that you're I mean it's obviously getting thrown to you now >> and we're talking about it >> and so from my standpoint I'm same right I see where they're a draw for an athletic program. So cutting that off, I think for them is a huge loss that they have to they have to look into. But as a district here, I'm excited about the things we've done to create K through eight as its own portrait of graduate, right? It's got a whole program from end to end that you come out with something out of it. So if you go somewhere else, obviously you want to go to Arrowhead and be a part of that whole system, but if you end up going somewhere else, you've

076got something from here to take with you versus just at K38, you're now part of the culture here and what what's been growing. So, I'm excited to see that. I think there's some still to sell, but I think there's there's a lot to weigh out what that looks like on the other end. Matt, are you This is just Are you wanting him to be Chris to be more informed so that he can decide whether he should recuse himself or not or how he should vote? I think those are two fundamentally different things. >> It's a good question >> because because obviously he shouldn't be influenced by anybody on how he votes, but if >> but he should be listening. But he well yeah but but if he ch if he so chooses to recuse himself

077that may be what the discussion here would impact. >> Give me your two option. What were you asking? I just want to make sure. >> Are are you raising a are you raising that you want to discuss this and and make sure that the the message or the the stance of the board should he be using that in how he [snorts] votes or if he votes? >> That's that's I don't know the answer. That's a that's part of the part of the I think that's a good question, right? >> Because the prior should really not come into play, but the latter is really where I would think that you would want him to have the stance of the board to say, "Hey, well, the rest of my board feels this way pretty overwhelming and and

078they feel like it could be a negative or positive and as a based on that, maybe that is what pushes him to either vote or not vote." >> Yeah. Yeah, it's like I if if this board all had a strong opinion one way or the other and that would suggest to me a situation where you might feel like you have to recuse yourself because we strongly feel one way or another, right? Um I don't, you know, and it's hard because you don't know what this data is going to look like. You don't going to look do um to Morgan's point, we don't know that we're going to lose 71 kids and $700,000. I I know from just a straight economic standpoint that's terrible. Um but you know I don't know. So I don't know if

079this board has a strong opinion one way or the other. I think that's what you're at. If we had that >> Yeah. >> that would be I'd feel like a situation where you had to recuse. Right. >> And again like Tina talked about earlier about stepping away. It's usually when there's a direct violation or a direct effect for you personally. Again, more so like a family member. If we have a strong opinion here, what we do is we act as a board and we determine to take an action as a board and that would send either a message or a communication or something to Arrowhead supporting or not supporting that decision. That that's what we do. We don't take a vote to tell Chris how to vote because I'm not a representative of this board

080on that board. So, I would understand our position that I might fully support it in this room and say, "Yes, let's send a letter that says, "Yeah, your name." That that that's what our job is. And when it comes to the voting there, I I'm I'm not the president of Heartland Lakeside when I'm there. I am the Heartland Lakeside seat on the Arrowhead board. So you're basically saying you would never recuse yourself because you are one person over there and sure that didn't come >> one person over here >> but you just said the recusal is a direct personal effect of a family >> often. >> Yep. But you have yet to say if you think there's a conflict if Arrowhead was to say yep we're going to cut open enrollment. You know that will

081negatively impact our district which you are an elect. You keep saying you're an elected official of both districts. How can you be a fiduciary agent to both districts when they very much butttheads financially? [clears throat] What's good for this one is not good for this one. How can you be a fiduciary agent for both at the same time or even minute by minute? >> You have to see in each situation. >> No, I want a specific answer to that. Chris, how can you be a fiduciary agent? Do you know what that means? >> Uh to an extent. >> You have the best financial interest of both districts. Arrowhead wants to cut open enrollment that will negatively impact this multiple districts, but we're talking about our district. You then by voting yes for that negatively impact

082this and automatically are not a fiduciary agent for Harland. >> If I was a representative of the Hartland Lakeside board. >> No, but you're on both boards, Chris. >> I understand that and I can thank the people. Thank you very much. >> You had no one run against you. Come on, let's be honest. >> Well, pointing a border. >> Jesus. >> Can we do uh regarding this obviously conflict of interest in making sure that we do a refresher on those conflict of interest, but maybe a one minute uh topic? >> Can we just add it to a future agenda item like I asked previously and then I'll stop talking cuz clearly I'm not going to get anything done. >> It's fine. I appreciate it. Let's just add it to the agenda. I'm just asking that

083the board give a maybe one minute on what they feel on the situation so that we could have a board topic on this piece that says how we are feeling. I know Matt says you're going to just maybe summarization from each board member and decide whether I'm going to do something with it. >> Jordan start I don't have any guidance here. I as I said I'm 100% torn on this thing as as a person. I think Arrowhead's a a total mess and that the referendum's failing have totally hamstrung that board and they have to do something. I'm hoping they're doing this to scare folks into passing a referendum and showing that they're do this and all this stuff's going to happen or, you know, get people to think more seriously about consolidation and shutting down

084some of these buildings to save money across the district. um from a just a straight Hartland repres just from a Hartland Lakeside representation no doubt this this would be bad for for this K district in my mind. Um so I don't have that's that's my thought on the process. >> And then Tina just quick I know that the superintendents had met and talked about that Conrad mentioned it in the meeting. What was the general takeaway from the feeders? >> Upset. >> Yeah, >> complete upset. Um, you know, I mean, we're all our own districts and I I I've said it before, you've heard me say it. Until we are not, I will represent Hartland Lakeside as their superintendent and their CEO, and we will move this district forward as a K8 as it is meant

085to be. Um, I think all of our Peter schools feel the same way. I almost interjected earlier, but I'm working hard on letting the board be the board and me do my work. Um, but since you asked, I I this impacts some of our feeders obviously in a a dire straits way. Um, and maybe that is part of the model. I don't know. Um, I'm not here to surmise what their purpose and mission is. I know what our purpose and mission is, and I'm really proud of it, and I'm really excited about it in the future of this district. Um to think that we would lose $700,000 potentially is scary to me. Um because to you know uh it all that we have built and all that we have put in place would be lost

086because we would have to cut those extra things. Um [snorts] we absolutely would and to your point they're not coming from just one grade level, right? It's across the board. So So we lose a kid or two in each grade level or however that would work. It's it we still need to have a teacher fill that spot and we're not going to be able to cut those staff. So, um I I I just I I have a lot of questions about frankly um how we move forward and and what this all ends up looking like. Um and um just want to focus on what I'm doing for H Heartland Lakeside. >> Thank you. Yeah. And I would ask that if you have conversations with the other districts as well and they have more specific information

087too, please share it with me because that will help me when I'm in that situation determine whether or not to step out or have a vote one way or another. So the more information I can have, the better, which is why I asked for that at the last meeting. >> Are you speaking as a board member for H Heartland or for Arrowhead when you just said that? Cuz that was very confusing to me. I'm pretty sure we're in the Heartland Lakeside meeting, >> right? But why would you then need more information when you need to make a decision over there? >> Would you share with the whole board? >> You had just asked about recusal and stepping up. So the more information have >> So anyway, that's what I have. >> I mean, I'm not

088going to get emotional on theoreticals, right? So I would like to see all the due diligence. I would like to see the data as it stands as a whole right now if Arrowhead were to proceed um with the vote like that. Yeah. And purple is probably too strong, but it it impacts this district tremendously. Um so I would take issue to any type of votings, you know, but I would have essentially the same council as Matt be careful >> at this point. Um but it's sort of hard for any of us um to speak on what we don't know right now. We're going to need last thoughts. >> Oh, I got a lot of them, but I won't share them right now. So, I don't think you should be voting in it. I think it's

089a recusal fact, but I know you won't listen to that. So, go ahead. >> Oh, you're the only one that can say stuff like that. Sorry. And this one I I said with with Matt, right? On both ends of it's kind of a there's a if it does, it could affect this. there's a big big swing of if what when and there might be even a trick without effect of because that happens a school doesn't make it and now you've got to take on those now there's I think there's a whole big piece of this that could go bad to good bad all the way around with it. So, I think just more information on what that is and understanding um if they are going to vote. I guess I'll keep my ear to the

090ground as well. Um and maybe just continue to do some more research and look at how many kids we have here, what they look like, where they're going, cuz I do know is it two years ago when we did the eighth grade graduation, we had the where they were going and there was quite a few that were going outside the district, which was interesting to me. Um, so there's some were going to a walk, some were going to PWA, a lot going narrowhead, but it was it was a interesting time just to see that there wasn't a lot or wasn't everybody that was going narrowhead, right? That wasn't the the big thing I took away. I was like, wow, there's a lot that go other places. So, um, it might be something just to look

091at with other districts as well. Um, from our standpoint. So, um, I yeah, more information is where I sit too. I think just need a little bit more to see what that looks like because I think there's more than the initial and then trickle down effect and at the end of the day we can't can't do anything >> right like I mean they're going to do what they're going to do like I can I can write a letter I can go speak in front of it I've done that for other things sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't you know okay so let's move on with that now the second thing that I just wanted to update is on there are two bills. I had mentioned that there were some things that were coming up in

092the assembly that might affect consolidation conversations and that was one of the reasons why at the district-wide meeting that they had held off on inviting representatives in because they wanted to wait until some of these things could go through the assembly and the senate to see if they would be in place before the representatives came out. and the two that are out there right now that just got thrown through. Uh the first one is bill 646. It's an act. It says relating to requiring a school district consolidation study. So I I printed this off because I wanted to be able to give you guys the heads up on it. uh speak the board just to be aware that the proposal that was introduced at the state legislature called Assembly Bill 646, it would require that

093the DPI hire an outside group to conduct a statewide study on school district boundaries, facilities, enrollment trends, staffing levels, and potential consolidations. The study would look at every district in Wisconsin and would include recommendations about future district boundaries, facility conditions, tenure enrollment projections, and any consolidations that could be considered efficient or feasible. So, that bill is just saying that they're trying to approve money to spend on a study to make recommendations and to >> study. Yep. Yep. >> Uh it went through a third read and passed in the assembly and it went through a first time read and then was referred to the committee on education. So that's moving forward [snorts] for their next meeting. The second one is Assembly Bill 649. This one and again you can look all these up on the docs.

094GIS.wisconsin.gov. You can go in there and you guys can read all these and actually read the the the bill text. But this one was introduced alongside the the broader statewide consolidation study bill. AB649 focuses on the funding mechanisms that support districts that enter into whole grade share sharing agreements or choose to consolidate. Increases the amount available at the state level for grants and reimbursements. This includes funding for feasibility studies, funding for districts that share grade levels across schools, and this is probably the key at the end here, additional state aid for districts that consolidate that would otherwise face a higher levy rate. So, these things are going through. Keep in mind, these are not a directive, not it does not require any districts to merge. It's just expanding the pool of state money that might

095be available if they voluntarily explore shared services or consolidation. And then my summary for this is it is not a consolidation vote. It does not require any district to merge. These bills simply begin a statewide data gathering and create optional funding for districts that want to explore shared services. Our community can be confident that the Art Lakeside School District is stable. It's growing and financially strong. There is no required action for us at this time and I would suggest we continue to watch these bills and keep our families and community informed should those go through and then conversations start to happen. Okay, that was it. Future board committee action or discussion items? Yours I already have noted. Morgan, I know that was coming. I'm not going to say anything. You already I got it. Anyone

096else have anything to add for future agenda? >> Okay. >> Well, I mean what is for discussions for topics for >> a specific one or is it a topic? Was this a specific policy? >> Was it the policy or was it a topic just sort of like write down here what we have? What I had from her was that she had requested that we look at the policy to look for specific steps and procedures and have that discussion as a board. >> Okay. >> Did I paraphrase paraphrase correctly or did you have >> Thank you. That was fantastic. >> Okay. Good. And then let me know when you're ready, Chris. Yep. Okay. Thank you. >> Yes. No problem. All right. Then on to future meetings. PBC, Friday, January 16th, 9:15. Yes. >> Yes. >> Correct.

097>> Finance, Tuesday, January 13th, 8:30 a.m. >> Correct. >> Great. Schoolboard meeting January 21st. >> No. >> Okay, [laughter] let's talk about that. >> Tina is at a >> Isn't there Wasn't there a concert? conference >> conference. She's at >> I thought there was a concert or something. We moved some Did we move something? >> Yeah, we moved it because on the Monday was uh >> no school today and we went to Wednesday and then she's at a conference for women's leadership and >> we were hoping to move to the week after. >> So that's the 28th. Let me check the >> or 20 days. >> 26th 26th >> 26th is a non student day. Um doesn't matter to me. Um we do have some um presentations that night of people that then would come

098later and we can make that work. I'm not I have no problem with that. The other thing that comes into play here is that um we'll talk about this because I want to there's some specifics to it, but there is an ask for the board to be present at Northshore Middle School on either the 20 on the 27th is is probably our biggest request. Um 27th or the 28th um to perform interviews. >> So that um those are the two dates for that for our eighth grade capstones. Oh, okay. During the day? >> Yes. Yes. In the morning. >> How long? >> We're looking at like a 9:00 to 11:30 time frame for anybody that can make it for that. Um, >> on the 27th, Tuesday. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I look forward

099to it. Great. >> Yeah. Have a board for everybody then. >> For what day you're talking? Are we talking about the interviews or the me? >> Sorry. >> Yeah. I just I didn't know if you guys wanted to double up. You know what I mean? Like that might be hard to if you're here in the morning and then have to come at night. I don't know how you feel about that. If it works out better for your schedules to just say, "Hey, this is a day I'm committing to this." >> Monday or Tuesday is fine for me that week. >> Yeah, let's do the 27th. >> I could do the daytime. I can't do the night I work have Tuesday nights. >> What about Monday night? >> Monday night's fine. Monday or Wednesday night is

100fine. >> Do you think people would prefer not coming in on a non-school day? >> Yes, I do. >> So, the 28th would be better. >> If you can do the 28th, Matt, can you do the 28th? >> Mhm. >> Matt. Matt. Chris. Chris. Morgan. >> 28. >> Okay. >> This is night time. >> 28th. That's 6:30. >> Yes. >> Just want to make sure I'm writing it down. Do you see any need to start that one earlier if we're going to be reviewing contracts [snorts] afterwards? >> Oh, would you like to start at 6? >> How does the board feel about that? Love it. >> So it doesn't become that too late. >> January 26 >> 28th. >> Okay. >> So the next school board meeting heard you earlier too. Wednesday, January 28th. >>

1015:30. >> Calm down. >> Yeah. I mean, 5:30 works. >> I can make it work >> as early as you guys want to go. We can go. >> I'm just 5:00 and then it's >> aftermath. >> Yeah. >> So, what do you guys think? 5:36. >> I go back to 5:30. >> I can do 5:30 or 5:30. >> Get there. Okay. >> 5:30. >> Do I hear a five? Oh, I >> too. Calm down. Calm down. People work. [laughter] >> I'm [snorts] running out of scribbles. >> All right. >> At least you don't have this block writing. >> I can get better at the computer. It's hard to see. >> All right. So then the next school board meeting is scheduled for Wednesday night, January 28th, starting at >> 5:30. 5:30. >> Sorry. >> Okay.

102All right. That's it. At this point, we are moving into our executive session portion. And I'd be looking for a motion to enter into close session with the purposes of discussing employment promotion compensation performance evaluation date of any public employee over which the government body has jurisdiction or exercise responsibility. The purpose of the closed session will be to discuss administrative goals and measurables employment contracts. Do I have a motion? >> So are we talking about second? >> That's the second. All those in favor, please say I. >> I. All those opposed. >> We are in close session. The motion passed unanimously. >> Who second? >> Mcnel. >> All right. If you want to take just a couple minutes just to make sure that we're done.

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