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Special Loyal Board of Education Meeting June 2nd, 2025

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YouTube / Loyal School District
Date
2025-06-03
Location
Clark County, WI
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Transcript
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2,581 words · about 15 min
Collected
2026-06-09

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001Yes. Yep. Uh go ahead. Uh no public comments and go ahead and uh look for a motion to approve the agenda. I'll make that motion. Kirk makes a motion. Second by Matt. All those in favor. Motion carries. Uh I think I'll just open up here and then we can we'll go into the discussion. I think after uh last week's vote, there was some question as to what is next in terms of of the football coaches and uh I appreciate the dialogue that we had as a board last week in public. I appreciate the conversation very much. Um, that being said, I think stepping back and looking at the vote, we need to discuss more as a board with the limited timeline that we are on in terms of football essentially starting as soon as next

002week with the contact days being changed at the WIAA level. Do we have time to adequately post interview and hire? And I think that's the that would be my focus of this the conversation tonight. Um, and I'd like to have your input on that. Eventually, I think ad would have some some comments uh into some of that discussion as well. Um, I I think as a as a a football fan and a football coach, I I think you have to remember uh change is tough on everybody. Change is tough on the kids as well, especially with a timeline that we're dealing with being so so close to summer. Um, and this adequately if this is going to happen or when it should have happened should have happened in the fall. And then there could have

003been a posting, proper interviews, proper procedure. Now, what happened two years ago, it is what it is. Um, you can call it a mistake if you want, but we don't need to compound one mistake with another. And I guess that's that's why I wanted to have this discussion again tonight as a board and get your feelings on on anything before we move to another vote. Now, it's my belief we do not have to resend anything because the motion failed. So, after this discussion, it would just take another simple motion to approve with a second and then we would vote again. All right, with that, Justin, you got anything to add? Sold it all up. Okay. All right. And I dialogue amongst the board then, please. So, my concern and not being on the board. So,

004I don't know like how everything went down. Um, but my concern was the co-head coach aspect when one of them never even applied for the position and got the position. So, I guess that was my issue was that we have a coach that didn't apply when we had many other people applied and interviewed for that position that were never even given thought as a possible co-head coach. So, I guess my say my concern, but I would like more info of kind of how all of that went down. And from my understanding was like Derek just said, it was more of a time crunch to where something had to be done to get going for the season. Is that accurate? Kind of. Sort of. I guess I mean I looking back on it I think a

005couple of things happened where it became a time crunch. Um you know I believe the initial interviews were in April and uh I believe we made an announcement 10 weeks after the interview days. So that was my concern was that somebody got it that didn't even apply. I said co- head coach. Um, I guess for me, um, while that is a concern, um, I think, you know, I'm confident moving forward tonight and and whatever we decide to do, I think that we need to have, um, some discussions for future so that this type of situation doesn't keep happening. And I keep hearing about athletic director. It's your role to do the evaluation of the coaches. And I completely understand that's your role. That's what you've hired for. I just think in this situation, it's a

006conflict of interest. And it's not I shouldn't even say I think a lot of people think that. So, I just think that as a board moving forward, maybe we have a different approach for this particular situation because I just think that um we want to continue to move forward and build relationships and have trust and transparency and in order to do that and keep taking those steps forward, we I just I don't want to leave any room for speculation. I think that if we if we maybe the athletic committee does does a evaluation or maybe it's it's Justin in addition to other people doing the evaluation or maybe we're we're I don't know Justin if you if you surveyed students and other coaches or who you did uh no I actually reached out to a

007local school whose district administrator is a head coach. I reached out to two of them. I only talked to one and that athletic director said that none of their coaches get evaluated even the district administrator or any of the other coaches as well. So that doesn't make it right. Right. It's the only feedback I've heard yet. Okay. So when you and I think if we would like I feel like in the athletic committee we could go through the evaluation and exactly what is asked like a blank one. um it really kind of focuses on the facts and that is what we talk about with that evaluation. So, okay, it's not like it's very structured um with that. So, we can definitely talk about that on the 23rd. Yeah. And I mean, I think, you know,

008again, there's nothing that we can do right now tonight, you know, to to fix, not even fix, but to re-evaluate the coaching situation or how it went or whatever. But I think in the future maybe have just some more discussions about about that evaluation process is all I'm asking for. I guess two two points I just I want to say it's not Justin it's the athletic with the superintendent. That's what I want. There's no offense to you at this. It is tough for a athletic director to evaluate the superintendent there. There's a conflict there with that. That being you know that's just a tough thing to to do whatever. Um the other problem is that we look at we all and most of us know here it's tough to get coaches anymore. This is the

009problem we're having. We're having a tough time getting people to step forward. A lot of our teachers aren't there still are a good amount of them but there's still a lot of teachers that aren't coaching anymore. And it's tough if you're getting parents to try to come in and do a lot of coaching. And that's what I so tough I guess that to turn around and evaluate when you're having a tough time getting people to even come in and coach. So just to those two points. Tom Kirk, my understanding that that and and I'm sure all of you were aware and the community was aware that we were looking at one head coach when it came down to the decision. I think I think it was also um took into consideration that Greenwood was also

010looking at uh if if their you know their previous coach could assist with the transition of by co-oping and and so they have be a person who could could assist um students because all you're blending the students the team together. So it certainly was a change at the end. It probably should have been um more time allowed for discussion regarding that, but um you know I think they had the best intention of trying to assist you know the the coach that was selected for you know for the position. So, um, and I understand the situation with a with with, um, you know, the letter director, you know, having to evaluate a a coach who's a supervisor, um, I certainly think that, yes, bringing it to the athletic committee um, could be an appropriate thing. I

011would just suggest that um we not we not allowed this to happen um so late in the year that it could have been done in earlier in the year to evaluate it and have some discussion then um but but uh that's that's behind you know so just moving forward if there's a way to to show that we're that others are involved in the process um that's fine but Um, in all due respect, I think we have a coach who spent, you know, nearly 30 years coaching the football team and, um, I think it was his intent as well to bring someone from the other, um, community to assist him. My theory is um, my main reason for voting no last week is because the other one was never applied for. Um, that was the only

012reason. Um, as far as evaluating, I think that because of the conflict interest in this situation, um, I think the committee and this the athletic director, the athletic director should conduct it, but the committee should be involved. I don't knowing what questions are asked and what comments are made afterwards. I guess the only thing I guess I would add is that that I in the process what I didn't like and I I voted no was I remember back like I said back then going to a board member because I did I guess I was kind of upset not just with football I was upset with the process of how we went about the co-oping and coaches. We had a co-op coach already who was the cross country coach, but we had superintendent, we had relatives,

013we had college teammates, everybody in the process of how we were going about hiring these coaches. And like I said, and ultimately the one thing I think a cross country coach, it wasn't fair that he was already for multiple years, if not five to eight years, was already the co-op coach at the time. and we just let him go because he had to reapply for the position that he was already that program was already being run by him and I thought that was so it wasn't just football I was upset at that time about how the process but I had nothing I was not upset I I agree I think with the football coach whatever I had no problem with Mr. But it was the process. And I think it kind of comes back to

014that word we use quite often, right? Transparency, doesn't it? And I I don't know that it was the most transparent plan, but again, as I started tonight, the first mistake was made. We don't need to make another one tonight because I don't know that this process could be as transparent as it needs to be. Chris, would you like to say something? I think there was it was a long process for the simple fact that um I believe I believe the committee chose me our board had issues with it because we had because of the year prior and it it just seemed like it kind of continue to drag on and and I think that's where we got caught time wise. um in our evaluation um through Mr. Sabower and Miss Main um and in our

015athletic committee meeting um back in November. I believe everything was okay at that point. Did not hear a lot uh of negative. Um so but like you said um we are late you know you're you are you're starting summer workouts in one week and there is a W football camp in 3 weeks and so what happens with all that um so Then you you have a whole staff that what are they going to do that if if I guess let me ask you a question to that. Do the board members had issue with your co-head coach? You know what does he say about this? I mean he has to know that the board questioned his right to coach the team. I mean, does he think he deserved it or does he think he shouldn't have

016interviewed or I mean, I guess I thought maybe he'd be here tonight so we could ask him that, but he's not. So, I have to ask you. I believe when things did not go with me being that I believe not him but I believe their board kind of said all right well then we were because it is a co-op you both boards have to deal with it or agree with it so they just said we'll have a Greenwood coach and and he was one that wanted to do that so Um I I can't speak for him. I have spoke to him. he he's has a lot of vested interests in in coaching and um I would say because of the time I would I would I don't know what you're going to do if if

017if you're not going to do this. I think we talk about uh a lot about the kids and and you mentioned it and where does that put them? So, do you need to evaluate it after the afterwards? Obviously, but like Kirk said, if we're going to make a whatever, then at that time we would need to evaluate and start that process. And whenever it's late October or early November, I just want to say, Mr. Lner, you had said if you don't approve us, what are you going to do? And I agree with you. I agree. I I don't know what we would do. I I agree that um it the time frame that we have, I don't want to be in a situation anymore where we have to make a decision because what other option

018we have? No offense to any of the coaches. No offense. This is in any situation, in every situation possible. I don't like being in a position where I have to make a vote based on what are we going to do if we don't do this and it just doesn't sit well with me because it I just feel like it I don't like that coming down to crunch time for any decision. So I agree. I think if if we need to evaluate this situation and it sounds like we do and I I know that it's not just us sitting here. There's questions and concerns in the public that people have. So, when this gets evaluated, but I just think we have to try to do it in a in a much timelier fashion. I agree. I

019don't know what we would do if we didn't have you guys coach. And and I want to say that, you know, I don't know that anybody questioned the season last year or the co-op or the coaching ability or any of those things. It was it was the transparency of how it all went down. I just want to be clear on that, too, is that, you know, from from people that I've talked to, nobody was questioning coaching abilities at this point or or what those type situations. It's just the transparency and the timeline. But that would just be my suggestion moving forward is that I don't like being in the position where we have to make decisions because we don't have any other option. And I said that not to be what are you going to

020do? You have to have us. I'm not saying that. I know that. I just you got to remember you have 50 or 60 kids out there that are looking at this and figuring out are trying to figure out what where are we going? What's going to happen here? Um, and you know, it did get passed somewhere along the line to approve the co-head coach. If we were going to look at it, we we needed to look at it at that athletic committee meeting, you know, and start it from there. So my opinion, so moving forward from now on for next year, can this get brought up a lot earlier in the year than two weeks or 3 weeks before the kids go into training? Well, the season will end early November or late November. athletic

021committee will take the first swing in December or November and then it comes to full board for the vote around the first of the year. Think that would that would be fair. And Derek, I remember at the athletic committee you asked point blank. So is our recommendation moving forward with our two coaches next year? And I said yes. However, that was not reflected. We never right. We never voted on it though as an athletic committee. No, you never we never gave a recommendation. Okay. We've done that a few. We did that with the athletic trainer as well. We could not come to an agreement on if we supported that decision or not. So, we brought it to the full board with no recommendation and let the board decide. So, when you asked me that, that

022was just my opinion. That was your opinion. Okay. Because it certainly wasn't mine. Okay. With all things considered, I don't think it's going to be fair to the kids or the coaches that everything that they have lined up. I make a motion that we approve Mr. Lintner and Mr. Lintner for the head varsity coaches for the 20 526 school year for football. I'll second that motion. Motion and a second. All those in favor? Opposed? Motion passes. other matters that may legally come before the board if necessary. Just want to talk uh real quickly. Um child care. Uh met with the committee today. Um we are looking at revamping our little dogs and possibly making it looking looking at doing a before school and after school program. Right now we do an afterchool um and possibly

023working that and possibly something with a three-year-old program um and trying to establish that before we go all in with a whole daycare system. So um would you charge for this? Yes. Yep. Three and before Yes. It would be like a regular daycare charge. So that that is what the committee is working on. They felt like six week is it 6 weeks is it the first time they can they get into a 8week year old 6 week old. All right. They felt that is too much for right away. Let's get something established. And uh so I'm I'm making you aware of this because they would like to pursue and see once where we're where they can go. All right. I will bring it in June and go from there. So you blueprint for us? Yeah.

024Are we looking at 3K this fall? Bluepint blueprint of how we'll see what's that's what they're working on is getting something else would be part of that. I think if that's Yeah. I mean that sounds like a fabulous idea. I think because I mean speaking for myself I have a three-year-old who's going to be going to 3K somewhere else because you know doesn't operate. Um, so being that all my other kids are in this building, you know, but but that's something again where you know if that's going to happen this fall, we got to make some decision. So that's what was our that was our discussion this morning. Um, we need to go we talked about school age only and then we brought in that aspect of it. That's a good idea especially if we're

025going to then evolve. Start small. Got to do some Yeah. Start somewhere. There used to be because when Jarrett was three, he did uh some kind of program here at school. Mrs. Rosco, there was like five or six kids in his class. He did half a year. Oh, I don't remember that. Cuz he was like one of the oldest ones in his class, I believe. Early childhood, I think it was. So, he was actually four but couldn't start 4K. His birthday September 4th, so that was very helpful for him because he was ready but legally he could not start. Sure. So, I guess I'm informing you and kind of saying, "Hey, I know it's come up a number of times." Uh, you'll have rooms laid out and then the process. That's Yes. What licenses required,

026things like that. Uh, person with that would be the director possibly. Yes, you need that. So, so what company is that? Daycare. Ah, it is a be through finance because moneywise we'll bring it I'm I'm committing I'm thinking finances where the money you got to figure out what the cost with what you be charging things like that. So you have like a committee of like staff that are working on this y that have experience dealing with this. So that's all I was looking. All right. Motion to adjurnn. Matt makes motion. Second.

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