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7.28.25 Regular Board of Education Meeting

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2025-07-29
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Dane County, WI
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001All right. Good evening. Oh, let me get my volume off. >> All right. Good evening. I'm going to call the um July regular board of education meeting to order and we'll start with a resuscitation of our vision statement. Every school will be a thriving school that prepares every student to graduate from high school college, career, and community ready. Tonight, we start with a disability pride month resolution and I believe board member Vanderm will do us the honors. Thank you very much, chair. Resolution number 2524 recognizing July as Disability Pride Month. Whereas the Americans with Disabilities Act, ADA, a landmark civil rights law prohibiting discrimination against individuals with disabilities in all areas of public life, was signed into law on July 26, 1990. And whereas July is recognized across the United States as disability pride month,

002marking the anniversary of the ADA in celebrating the history, culture, identities, and contributions of the disability community. And whereas approximately 70 million adults in the United States have disabilities according to the center for disease control and prevention and more than three million children have disabilities according to the US Census Bureau. And whereas people with disabilities, whether visible or invisible, cognitive or acquired, physical, cognitive, sensory, or neurode divergent, continue to face barriers to full inclusion in education, employment, housing, health care, and community life. And whereas individuals with disabilities contribute meaningfully across all centers of society, including science, technology, the arts, law, education, sports, and public service. And whereas Madison Metropolitan School District serve thousands students with disabilities and are committed to fostering inclusive, accessible, and equitable learning environments for all. And whereas the MMSD board of

003education plays a central role of providing services to students with disabilities and their families, including thought through programs that serve students with the most intensive needs. And whereas disability pride month is an opportunity to celebrate the strength, leadership, and accomplishments of the disability community and to reaffirm our collective responsibility to eliminate discrimination and advance and advance equity. Now therefore, be it resolved that the MMSD board of education recognize this month of July as disability pride month. Be it further resolved, the board encourages all educational institutions, public agencies, community organizations, and residents Date County, Wisconsin to observe disability pride month with appropriate activities, educational programs, and celebrate that pro promote inclusion, accessibility, and understanding. Be it further resolved that the MMSD board of education reaffirms its commitment to upholding the rights and dignity of people with

004disabilities and advanced polic and advancing policies and p practices that ensure all students have the opportunity to thrive adopted by the MMSD board on the 28th day of June 2025. Thank you chair. Thank you. Um, next we'll we have a remembrance um, which Vice President Pearson will read. Would like to ask for a moment of silence this evening for our district to recognize the passing of Terry Paps who was a special education teacher at Thorough Elementary School. Terry is remembered as kind, empathetic, and dedicated educator who made a meaningful difference in the lives of every student, staff, and family she touched. She gave her heart and soul to the students who served, she served. Whether it was crafting a safe space or creating a safe space, solving a problem, teaching a child to read, or

005collaborating with colleagues to help students engage in learning. Terry consistently went above and beyond to ensure students had what they needed to be successful and to feel successful. She was not not only a valued colleague but also trusted friend to many. Terry generously shared her knowledge and ideas, always keeping students at the center of every conversation. She lifted and supported those around her, making everyone feel seen, heard, and valued. Terry brought joy and light to the row each day. Her legacy is one of kindness, selflessness, and unwavering commitment to others. She will be deeply missed by all those who had the privilege of calling her a teacher, colleague, and friend. Terry P. Terry's passing has taken a significant toll on so many students and staff in a thorough community, and we remember them tonight. Please

006join me in participating in a moment of silence to honor Terry Paps. Thank you. >> Thank you. We'll now move into the public input part of our meeting. There were no written statements submitted for this meeting. There are no in-person registrations and there are no online registrations. So, for tonight's meeting, uh probably the first time since I've been elected, we have no public comments. So, that moves us into approval of the minutes. I move that the board of education approve the minutes from the regular meeting dated June 23rd, 2025. >> Second, Maya. >> Any corrections or comments to the minutes? All right. Seeing none, our student rep uh Claire Lee, your advisory vote. >> I. >> All those in favor? I. >> All right. Passes unanimously. We'll now move into board president announcements and reports.

007We'll start with some congratulations. Um Eddie Chen, an an MMSD Memorial alum and West Point grad, uh is owed some congratulations for earning the prized Herz Fellowship, a value of up to $250,000 to pursue a doctorate in chemical engineering at the California Institute of Technology. He is one of 19 recipients nationwide. Lafallet sophomore Najawani Riyak named the seventh best girls basketball player in the nationwide class of 2028 who was one of 58 students nationwide selected to participate in the team USA camp and Gumpers Elementary for earning the title of fittest schools by Madison bike plus run. Other acknowledgements um include in tonight's consent agenda, the board will see and we want to acknowledge uh the individuals and organizations that have donated to the district. Roots and Wings Foundation um donating again in the amount of

008$150,000 to support mental health priorities within the department of student and staff support. and the Morgan Wallen Foundation um has provided an inkind donation of musical instruments. The value of those instruments are $11,293 given to the Lake View Elementary School. So many thank you to our donors. And with that, I will turn over to our superintendent. >> Thank you, President Nichols, members of the board, staff, and community. Thank you for this opportunity. Although school is out for many of our students, much has been happening in our buildings and facilities, scholars remain active in summer programming and offerings that are made possible with the support of our community. I'd like to share some highlights. First, the WMadison Badgers are reading to scholars, not just in the school year, but this summer, too. WMadison football players and

009coaches joined students at Leopold Elementary to share the joy of reading. The student athletes also distributed free books supported for supporting our mad for reading initiative. This special reading event was made possible in partnership with the Madison Reading Project Inc. and W Athletics. Next up on Sunday, yesterday, a very hot Sunday, um MSR Art Cart in the park. I joined MSCR in the Madison Museum of Contemporary Art to help celebrate the art cart turning 50 years old. Yes, we sang happy birthday to the art cart. For 50 years, this program has inspired artistic creativity across multiple generations. And what's more, the art card is provided at no cost to families and students, creating access to opportunity for many of our community members to participate. The art card is made possible through a partnership between MSCR,

010a department of MMSD, and the Madison Museum of Contemporary Art. Those on the dice, if you as a young person participate in the art cart, raise your hand. All right. Back in the day for sure. So again, 50 years and uh thanks Mary Roth and and your staff for all the work you do to make that partnership continue that partnership today. Uh Summer Arts Academy, our MMSD summer arts academy gave students an opportunity to engage with nearly 30 local guest artists who taught a variety of topics including dance, theater, and 3D arts. Guest artists were Blackar Drumline, The House, Inc. Madison Ballet, Madslam Poetry, and Madison Youth Choirs. Next, our middle school discovery camps. 295 middle school students participated in our summer career and technical discovery program. We offer 23 different opportunities such as engineering,

011health science, culinary, coding, and robotics. Our goal is to help our sixth through 8th grade scholars experience career pathways firsthand and gain real world insights to help shape their future. The camps wrap up this week and you'll find more student stories on our website as well as on Facebook and Instagram. And then finally, I'll wrap up tonight with sharing um some great pride in freedom schools. I'm excited to share that MMSD launched the very first Freedom School in the state of Wisconsin. To provide some background on Freedom Schools, the program was inspired by the 1964 Mississippi Freedom Summer and designed to uplift students through literacy, cultural identity, and community. I visited freedom schools which is located at or which is held at Modota Elementary School and had the experience of joining our 50 freedom schools

012participants and staff are harb for those who don't know herb is a swuahili word meaning let's pull together herb is celebrated daily and sets the tone for the day through music affirmations and a guest read aloud from a community member the feeling in the room was simply amazing and to see the smiles on our scholars faces made me feel so proud of the connections and learning being made for all who attended. Freedom Schools runs through July 31st this week. As part of their day, students read two new books daily and express their thoughts through drawing, writing, or creative storytelling. President Nichols, members of the board, this concludes my report. >> Thank you, Dr. Gothur. appreciate um you show showcasing how the learning and all the different ways that young people learn through arts, through reading,

013through summer camps is still happening um and that the work does not stop just because of a school year end. So, thank you so much for your highlights. All right, moving forward on our agenda. Um we are now going to go to items that proceeded through the instruction workg group. I'll turn that over to Chair Maldro. We did not have an instruction work group in July. Having an instruction work group in August, but I'm so sorry, I cannot think of what we're discussing. Oh, we will be discussing our agenda for the entirety of the year. And oh gosh, there's one other >> and we're coming back with strategic priorities from the new framework. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, >> sorry I I you were correct. We didn't meet. I wasn't sure um if I should

014call on each chair. Chair uh Castro, do you want to say that the operation group meet or do you want to add anything about the August meeting? >> Yeah, so we well good evening. We did not have an uh operations workg group in July. However, we will meet on August 11th to talk about fund 10 balance, the what the state budget looks like for us, um what the federal budget looks like for us, the summer school counts, and another update on the facilities referendum. >> Great. Thank you so much. Um because we didn't meet in July, there aren't any action items that are coming forward tonight um from either of the workg groups for us to um vote on. So that moves us directly into our consent agenda. I move that the board of education

015adopt and approve all of the motions set forth in section 10 of the electronic agenda prepared for the July 28th, 2025 regular schoolboard meeting exactly as said motions are written. By voting affirmatively on this motion, a board member expresses his, her, or their affirmative vote on each of the motions consolidated, hereby subject to any express separations that have been made by any member of the school board. >> Second, Maya, >> are there any separations tonight? All right. Seeing none, um for our representative Lee, your advisory vote. >> I. >> All those in favor? I. All right. Any opposed? Or member Moldro. Did I catch your hand on the I? I'm so sorry. All right. That passed unanimously. Thank you. All right, we are now moving into other reports to the board starting with the city

016county schools collaborative committee. Uh we did hold um I am on that committee and is the did we identify at the June retreat who a second board member would be on that committee or did we decide that we were going to come back to a second representative? on the city county schools collaborative committee. >> Yeah, Martha. >> Okay, thank you. So, board member Saravo, I I'll need to get you up to speed. Um, right now the group is meeting the second Wednesday of the month, although there is quite a bit of conversation about whether this committee will continue and if it does, if the meeting cadence will change to quarterly. So, um, what is posted in board docs is that we h held a meeting on July 9th. Um, we brought the committee up to

017date on a more recent conversation that myself and the co-chair of the committee had had with the mayor and our superintendent about the future of this committee. Um, we tried to talk through the pros and cons of continuing with the committee. Um, and we did not make any decisions, but we agreed to come back in August to try to resolve this issue. So, I will bring you up to speed, but that's kind of the update on the city county schools collaborative committee. And just for those who may be watching this meeting, um, this is a committee that is in city ordinance and brings elected officials, two from the school board, two from city council, and two from county board. um the county board together um with the intention to find mutually mutual topics of interest

018related to either the Madison schools or young people in our community. We've had lots of informative conversations and topics of interest. Um but the committee is not currently structured or utilized in a way to actually make recommendations or to take action. And so um that's why the the committee is trying to figure out if it should continue in its current format. Okay. All right. Moving on. I will go to student senate. >> Student senate does not meet over the summer and we will resume in September. >> Thank you. Madison school and community recreation advisory board member Moser Falam. >> That's me. We met on July 16th. Uh we spent some time identifying community organizations and community spaces that um we might like to make more connection with. Uh and in other MSCR news, pardon me,

019I pull it up here. Uh a couple of exciting a couple of exciting things. Um so the school the MSR school forest cabin uh renovations are either about to begin or have um begun uh which is super exciting. Um as Dr. Gothur mentioned, Art Cart celebrated its 50th birthday, which is super exciting. And for people to know, the MSR fall program guide will be available online this Friday, August 1st, and print copies will go be going out to households the following week. Registration for fall activities begins Monday, August 11th at noon. >> Thank you. Uh, next is the policy committee. I'm not sure if there is an update for this board meeting or not. Uh, yes, board member Vandermillan. Yes, we had a excellent meeting on Friday and we discussed um draft language and what

020we're going to um create a pol create a way for policy for board members to introduce policy. We're hoping to get that done by the next retreat. I believe that would be September from what my memory serves me and to talk about those topics and to make sure that board members because we already have a way for admin to turn it in but then we would create a way for board members also. Anything else you'd like to add Maya? >> Perfect. >> All right. Thank you. um board governance committee is kind of on a hiatus until board members um think about either adopting a board governance framework or attending um some additional learning in the near future. That moves us on to other business. Starting with our annual declaration of educational standards, I move that

021the board of education approve the previously adopted English language development standard WEDA for English language learners. The Wisconsin standards for English language arts, physical education, personal finance literacy, youth apprenticeship programming as developed by Wisconsin educators and experts. all of the Wisconsin academic standards such as mathematics, history, science, geography, and technical subjects as these standards specify what students should know and be able to do in the classroom and also serve as goals for teaching and learning with a focus on ensuring the MMSD curriculum is historically accurate, inclusive, and culturally relevant. Second Maya. >> Any questions or comments on the annual declaration of educational standards? All right. Seeing and hearing none. Student represent Lee >> I. >> All those in favor? I. All right. That looks unanimous. Thank you. All right. Next is our appointment of the

0222025 2026 hearing officers. Okay. I move that the following resolution be approved. Whereas Madison schoolboard policy 4045 and Wisconsin state statute section 120- I mean I'm sorry 120.131E provide that the Madison school board here and after referred to as the board may adopt a resolution in which the board may authorize the use of an independent hearing officer appointed by the board to determine determine pupil expulsion from school. And whereas such resolution is only effective during the school year, it is adopted. And whereas the board desires to adopt such resolution and use independent hearing officers to determine pupil expulsion from school for the 2025 2026 school year. Therefore, be it resolved that the board of education hereby authorizes the use of an independent hearing officer for the 202526 school year to determine a pupil's expulsion from

023school and be further resolved that the following independent hearing officers shall be appointed to the pool of officers. David Freriedman and Matthew Bell. >> Second. Maya. >> Any questions? All right, board member Vanmillan. >> I'm just glad now that Matt Bell is taking the second job that way, that way we have enough people to cover if we absolutely need. >> Okay. Thank All right. Student Representative Lee >> I. >> All right. All those in favor? I. >> All right. That passes unanimously. All right. Next, we have several tax incremental district um motions or TIDs. Starting with the first one, I move that the board of education direct Maya Pearson as the representative on the city of Madison joint review board to vote in favor on the 2025 project plan amendment to TID number 42, also

024known as Wingra, as set forth in the documents prepared for the regular board of education meeting dated July 28th, 2025. We would need a second on that. All you um board me fel any questions or comments on this motion? >> All right. Student represent your advisory vote. >> I. >> All those in favor? I. All right. That passes unanimously. Moving on to the next TID. I move that the board of education direct Maya Pearson as the representative on the city of Madison joint review board to vote in favor on the 2025 project plan amendment to TID number 45 also known as capital SC capital square west as set forth in the documents prepared for the regular board of education meeting dated July 28th 2025 >> second. All right. Thank you, board member uh Mosner Felam.

025Any questions or comments on this? TID. All right. Seeing none, student representative Lee, your advisory vote. >> I. >> All those in favor? I. >> All right. Looks like that passes unanimously. Next. TID. I move that the board of education direct Maya Pearson as the representative on the city of Madison Joint Review Board to vote in favor on the 2025 project plan amendment to TID number 48, also known as Regent Street as set forth in the documents prepared for the regular board of education meeting dated July 28th, 2025. >> Second. >> Thank you. Uh any questions or comments about this, TID? Yes. Or member Maldro. What part's about the dollar amount? >> Okay. Pop can answer it. >> Uh, can you can you please repeat the question? Was 48, right? 1048. >> Yes. at 10:48.

026>> Sure. Um the there there are two amendments. The the amendment that's being offered by for the review board and then the original um TID that was approved with the amendments that that had been proposed. Um the city does a nice job color coding the changes in the amendments that we're looking at and then gives the total in terms of the changes. So for 48 we're talking about um the changes that would be highlighted in green and the changes to the original TID are going to be for um Salt Park Street utility improvements and then um there's an increase in terms of the cost of the financing. Um it totals um total of now 7.1 for financing. It was 6.5. Um and then the TID now will have a total cost of 35.6 um an

027increase from 34.6. My understanding is that we already approved this, but now we're approving it again with a different dollar amount. So, we approved it at this original amount and now we are approving additional funding for this project. >> Right. The the city's making amendments to the cost in terms of it would be for scroll down was why Bob gets that amount. Um, so sometimes what ends up happening is that there might be additional costs that may be associated with some of the um the development in the area. And then sometimes there may be some shifts um and so um sometimes we have to increase the amount um because the cost is increasing. So we change the or have to adjust the the investment um with then adjusts the amount that we may have um

028later um at the closure of the TID. So whenever there are the any adjustments like with any of the TIDs um we have to come back and vote for them um if they are and most of the time it's mostly costs um that may change um and then also um if there are things that some of the TIDs may change in terms of like area may be added um or um cost sharing um may happen at as well. So just a just why something might come to us a second time even after we approve it. Any changes we just have to approve on our side. Yeah, the two are that's correct. So the two changes were for the South Park Street utilities at 1.2 million and then the West Wash Southwest commuter path for 845,000.

029The original plan had Park Street at 3.3 million which was a longer section of the plan from looks like from the college down to VIS. So this would be for increased costs associated with um utilities move. >> Okay. I think what I am trying to understand and thank you so much board member and board vice president Pearson and Bob um for for speaking to this is what is driving the additional cost and so is it that the project actually grew and is bigger or is it that the project is bigger than or is more expensive than originally anticipated and part of the reason I think that's important is just to normalize um that these projects are scoped out at a specific point in time and then when they are executed um they they are impacted

030by inflation just like everything else. And so I'm curious if that's what's driving it is the reality of inflation and kind of the timeline of the project itself or if it's being driven by an expansion of the area that the project will support. Does that make sense? >> Chair, I can speak to one of them and Bob you may know this as well. I I believe the the bike path crossing there was a decision made by the city to make that permanent. I think they've been studying that for some time. Um, drive that offense. So, very much know that area and I think that they are looking to put in kind of permanent stansions and and make that more a moving forward thing. I can't speak to the utilities on South Park. Um, but I

031will mention to everyone, all of us are aware of the um, incredible development going on as well. So, we may approve plans and six months later before they're finalized, there may already be new development that requires further um costs that are covered under under the the TIDS. We can get uh a better explanation uh in the in the future if there are changes such as the yellow to green. Um but right now I I can't speak to the exact reason. I understand why you would wonder is this inflation? Is this tariffs? the supply chain. >> Yes. I mean, in some ways, I think that this lends itself to like the very large scope of work that we're doing and what we should be able to anticipate as a board and also what our community should

032normalize as kind of we we make um you know, fairly complicated decisions about the renovation of of our own schools or the building of schools in Madison. Um, I do I do appreciate the opportunity to examine what this looks like. And I guess my last question would be um, is this something we should imagine will come back to us again? >> I guess I can answer the question. Um, at this time, no, but there could always be something that changes or adjustments. Um, typically these TIDs are um in existence for like a decade, sometimes longer, sometimes shorter. So, it just really depends on um what is happening, what is slated, and what development is happening in the area. So, for instance, there may be a large TID like South Madison one. Um there's a lot

033of development that's happening there. Um there might be something that happens like for instance when we saw the um the the scrap metal place when it caught on fire like that changes the whole dynamic of like um are we going to um like have to do further um testing and making sure that the soil is is okay to build and that might change like the cost and things like that. So it just really depends on what over time happens. Um, so the short answer is I don't think it will be, but at the same time I don't I don't know what will change in the future. So there's a possibility it could. I think part of what drives my question to that is kind of the long-term reality of the TID related to the public

034market and kind of how that has come back to us over time and the delays relate that being built. And so the the last question I would ask is were the board to say no, we actually don't want to support the the TI um at this amount. What happens to those public resources? >> Um well, the obviously there's a there's a board, right? And majority majority would rule and so depending on how the other members vote at the TID review board scheduled tomorrow would be dependent on the outcome of that. The TID the TID has a value in the cost. So these are costs in this one in terms of down region and from park down to vio basically part of the triangle 3 redevelopment in terms of utilities. um the costs of the of

035the taxes that are raised in the area that are part of the TID are used for the infrastructure investment and then um it increases the value and so then once the value is increased the district would share in that increased value in terms of increased property value which has the effect of reducing taxes for other value as the value goes up. I under I understand like the benefit of voting in partnership in collaboration with the city. I amum I my question is though if you said hey we're not we're not interested in giving additional resources to this project what happens to those additional >> what what what you would what we're recommending to be voted on and approved there are increased costs for the development within this TID um the costs are the costs are

036increased right and so the costs have to be paid Now, um, like I said, it depends on how the other members of the tier review board vote, right? >> Okay. >> So, if they support it and we don't, the costs the costs are increased. >> Oh, sorry. Was that okay? Board member Vandermillan. >> Yes. Um, not sure I can vote for a TID if I don't know what's going to happen to those funds. If I can't know what I'm voting on and what will happen to it, I'm not sure I'm confident on how it will work. I'm sorry. So, just to restate, tonight's motion is about an amendment um to the to the project plan that to board member Maldo's point, we we've already voted on. So, tonight's vote for member Vander Muan is the

037amendment to the actual costs um that for the development work that's been done. we have probably already voted yes um to the original plan um and they're they're coming back at this point with an amendment. So, you know, you can still vote obviously as as you choose. Um I I think there is a difference though between new tax incremental districts being formed >> versus some of these tax incremental districts that have already come before us and they're just coming back with it with an amended update based on costs or maybe some slight geographic changes to the plan. So >> yes, of course, >> turn that back on. Um, I appreciate that explanation. Mine is more of the fact that since it is a different amount in the interest of full transparency, I feel that we

038need to find out why how this works. And so that's why we'll be voting against it tonight. Thank you. Okay. And again, right, I just let me just say this board for member Vanderm. There are several TIDs on the agenda tonight. We just voted affirmatively on TID number 42, which was also an amendment. >> We voted affirmatively on TID number 45, also an amendment. So, a lot of what's coming to us tonight are these amended amended updated um kind of costs and expansion to to an original T. Again, vote as you like. All right. Yeah. >> So, yeah, I can um bring that back um to our meeting tomorrow. Just asking more specifically um to Bob's point. um it's the school district as well as city of Madison as well as um Madison College um

039who sit on this board and so um on a joint review board. So, if there is a if we decide not to um vote in favor of something um there's still other votes that to be had and I haven't since I've been on the board seen us not vote in favor of anything. So, or not to vote in favor of something. Um and so I will definitely make sure to ask that question um and ask what ends up happening if things don't pass at this place. Um I do know that the city process um the joint review board is just one of the spaces um that includes um the plan commission, the um UDC, so the urban development commissions and other commissions. So um the joint review board is just one kind of stop um

040for development in our community. Um, and so, but I'll definitely make sure to ask how that impacts the um, if things don't pass, but then also to how that impacts other kind of development with other kind of commissions and such. >> You're good. All right. Have we all questions and comments at this on this TID? Okay. All right. Student Representative Lee, your advisory vote. I. >> All right. All those in favor? I. >> All right. That looks like six. Those opposed? One. All right. That motion carries. 61. Thank you. We have another one. Um, this one. Oh, let me just read the motion. I move that the board of education direct Maya Pearson as the representative on the city of Madison joint review board to vote in favor on the 2025 project plan amendment to

041TID number 53. This is the West Wilson Street area as set forth in the documents prepared for the regular board of education meeting dated July 28th, 2025. >> Second. >> Thank you board member Mosner Balam. Any questions or comments on this, Ted? All right. Hearing and seeing none, student representative Lee, your advisory vote. >> I. >> All right. All those in favor? I. All right. Thank you. That passes unanimously. I move that and this is I think our last TID. I move that the board of education director Maya Pearson as the representative on the city of Madison joint review board to vote in favor of the 2025 project plan amendment to TID number 55. This is the Voit is am I saying that right? Voit area as set forth in the documents prepared for the

042regular board of education meeting dated July 28th 2025. Thank you board member Castro. You were quick with it. Any questions or comments on this? >> Just a quick comment. So, this is the area where we actually have a creation of a TID just as a FYI um since our last conversation was more so about amendments. So, this would be the creation of that area. >> Thank you. Um All right. So, this one is slightly different than the other ones we just voted on. This is the creation of a project plan um and a new tax incremental district beginning. Are there any clarifying questions that we may want to pose? Yes, board member Maldro. >> How does this creation the creation of this TID impact the district or what are the benefits to the district specifically?

043This is the void. This is the void farm development which is going to add um housing to the district area that there's a lot of housing going up right now. So this will likely increase families and students for us in terms of the district and obviously again increase the equalized value which helps us spread the cost of the tax levy. >> Is this going to develop public housing, lowincome housing? Is this a private development developer who's going to get support from taxpayers to build a for-profit series of rental units? >> Um, TID right the TID right now is for um development loans and land acquisition for total of $8.6 million. Um, I don't know what the plan is in terms of are they going to have subsidized housing or if it's market rate housing. I

044don't know the details of that plan. >> So, when you say loan, that means that the developer is obligated to pay that $8 million back to the community after they build this housing over the course of a a period of time. >> What's the length of time that we're extending that loan? Yeah, the the loans the development loans would be for $3.9 million from 2025 to 24 is the length of the loan. >> So, it's a 15year loan and about $3.9 million be paid back. >> Yes. >> Okay. I think it's easy to support that. I think investing in housing is a tremendous benefit to the district and our community overall. I do hope that we're prioritizing public housing and low-income housing. Um, my last question is, uh, Bob, I don't know if this is

045going to be in your ballpark, so forgive me if it's not, but my understanding is that that area once developed would feed into Shank and White Horse and Lefthallet. Am I >> President Nichols? the on page seven of this um of this recommendation, there's five lots in the void farm area and it looks like it's a mix of market rate and low-income housing tax credit. Um so so a good mix for I think it's 60 acres if I remember right from some of our work with the city. This lot sits on Milwaukee Street and Fair Oaks. And honestly, right now, if you look at most of our Fair Oaks addresses, they are in the east attendance area on the Mohawk Street there, the Lafallet attendance area. This will become one of the areas that we

046have to identify. Um, we have work to do just in terms of where those addresses end up and where we would assign students that uh would eventually reside in those in those units. I think this is a tremendously exciting moment to get to align work with the city and really allows for us to do some of the other work we're doing pretty strategically and thoughtfully. Um because I think the the obvious question is how do we have the space for a really significant increase in the population in that immediate attendance area? Um and and what does it look like to configure that? And since we're already doing that work, um I think it's pretty exciting to get to build this project into it. >> Vice President Pearson, you board member Maldo, Superintendent. >> Yeah, thank

047you both for that because I think um as we're thinking just long term about developments, I know in the um review board um I brought up multiple times in some of the the plans. So, um, the TID creation is just a small part again of like the build plans is what they call it throughout the entire city of Madison. Um, and so if you're ever interested in learn more about like what the development in an area, like go read the the build plans because um, those are things that have been in works for decades. Um and then the other thing I just want to say is like you know definitely always advocating in areas like this when we are starting to get more dense um community centers um other public resources um and um you

048know even if there are opportunities to partner with the city in terms of like schools new um possible schools I won't I'll just put that out there. I just I just bring it up all the time. Um because I'm always worried like what do those kids have um to one go to school, but then also what do they have in terms of when they're not at school. So any kind of other um public infrastructures, whether it's parks and stuff like that. So if you all are into that kind of thing like I am, uh just go read those build plans and then go to the plan commission um meetings, which I think they're meeting tonight. But um yeah, I just wanted just to add that I I try to make sure to bring those up.

049So if there are any other questions from the board or any kind of wonderings or things that you are very strong about um like having community centers in South Madison, um just let me know and I will definitely um bring it up in those meetings. Uh oh, member Saravo I'm not exactly sure how accessible this this information would be. But is there an expectation um if we're talking about affordable housing, but also accessible housing just because that is the hardest thing to find and but that speaks to also a large community as well. Way to some sort of expectation like to make sure that's part of the project. >> Yeah. I'll just um I think um this is some like my own opinion. I think the the process I think that they do consider those

050kind of things when they are choosing the developer of course. Um but also too um I would just always make sure to advocate with your your city council person um your older um because they are the ones that are going to be the the ones approving what developments. they're the ones working with the mayor to approve like who may um get um those contracts and things like that to build housing. Um I would just add um there is areas where um in times where I have advocated for certain um size housing like four bedrooms or three bedrooms in certain developments. Um and you know there have been times where I've gotten push back. This is just me as a a regular person um showing up to community meetings and such. Also too, just as another

051FYI, um for these plans um there are always community um input sessions that are required um by um ordinance um where if there is a development happening, they have to have so many where folks can be a part of. So I always encourage people to join those because um usually the loudest people are the ones who get what they want in those spaces. And so um and that's not to say that people um who are directly impacted don't in aren't involved in those processes um but you don't see them as much. And so definitely import people if you are um interested in getting something across to to go to those meetings. And again all of that usually is on a lives on a city website. Um, so you should be able to see our the

052TIDs, you should be able to see um any of the build plans on the city websites. Sometimes the information is a lot harder to get, but um again, contact your alder and ask them directly and they should be able to provide that information for you. >> Thank you, Vice President Pearson. And as already stated, this initial vote tonight is really to create the tax incremental districts. The the housing, the developers, all that stuff will come later. Um, and so what we're voting on tonight is is literally like development loans and land acquisition um and and a small well I wouldn't say small and some administrative and professional costs in order for folks to be able to um move forward. There will be more exciting news I'm sure coming from TID 55 in the near future

053for member Maldo. Yeah, the only thing I want to add is that I think it's relevant to keep our eye on the generative reality of this investment in terms of the longterm property value and taxation of that housing itself. Um, and and the district's ability to benefit from that. So, I I think it's it's worthwhile to to keep in mind kind of what this means for our district both from an enroll enrollment standpoint and an investment standpoint in ourselves. >> All right, Bob, thank you so much for being willing to answer questions tonight about the tax incremental districts. And uh we have already have a motion that was seconded. So, student representative Lee, your advisory vote. I. >> All those in favor? I >> I. >> All right, that looks unanimous. Thank you. It looks

054like we have no other old or new business. And board member Vander Muan has moved that we adjourn the meeting. >> Second. >> And board members Moldro and Castro both seconded almost in unison. Jesse, she heard board member Castro. All those in favor for a German, including our student representative. All right, y'all. We are adjourned. Thank you and have a good night. July. >> Okay. July.

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