001It is 7 o' So, I'm going to call this meeting to order >> right at 7 o'clock. >> Um, is this when you would like to review some of the items, Erin? >> Yes, I would. My name is Aaron Turner. I get to be the superintendent of the McFarland School District. Thank you all for being here. Electors, glad to have you here. I'm going to just highlight some things that are in your packet of information. You should have a packet over there. And this is the agenda. So, we will go through each step of the agenda. Um the primary purpose um to be to talk about our tax levy and adopt a tax levy. There are some ground rules. In order to qualify as an elector, you need to be a US citizen age 18
002or older, okay? And reside in the school district of McFarland for at least 28 days. If you do not qualify as one of those things, you are welcome to stay, but you are unable to vote. The rest of you may vote. Attendees uh should state their name when addressing the chairperson. If you're going to make an action that begins with a motion, then a second and then there's discussion and then a vo vote will be held. Most often we'll take a vo voice vote, but we can have ballots or hand raising as necessary. I think with this crowd, we can handle a voice vote. Should uh attendees wish to propose motions for new business that fall under the powers and responsibilities at annual meeting that aren't on the agenda, you'll do that through a written,
003signed, and presented document to the chairperson. So, there's very limited things on what is actually done in an annual meeting, and we'll cover those in when we get to that agenda item. Oh, look at that. Powers of the annual meeting. There's a lot of words up here. Um, but we will lead you through many of which don't apply to us, but unless you have statute 12010 memorized, they're here uh for your review. We do have a parliamentarian available if necessary. So, should we have a question tonight, we will defer to attorney Shaina Lewis for any questions to make sure we follow proper procedures. All right. So, at this time we talk about electing a chairperson. President Fesler is the temporary chairperson. >> Yes. Um so from the electors, I would look for a motion or
004nomination for um a chairperson for the annual meeting. And please um can I just say if you are going to make a motion, please step up to the microphone so that the public can hear you. >> Yes. Microphone right there. I should have said that. >> You're not going to hurtle the chairs. >> Uh I'm Craig Herry and I would like to nominate Megan Fesler to oversee the 64th annual meeting. >> All right. Thanks, Craig. Do I have a second? >> I am Angie Stra and I'll second that. >> All right. Thank you, Angie. Um, any discussion or questions about that before we vote? >> Any other nominations? All right, let's take it to a vote. Um, I guess I would accept the nomination. Um, as long as you all agree. So all in favor
005please signify by saying I >> I. Any opposed? All right. Motion carries unanimously. Okay. So the first thing that we have is the um minutes of the 2024 annual meeting provided by clerk Bruce Fiser. Um we um often wave the the reading of that >> um unless anyone is opposed. I would um I think last year we did make a motion. >> We don't need to. >> Okay. All right. >> Yeah. So we took that out just to expedite our meeting time. So they're here in your packet for for your review. >> Perfect. >> At your leisure. >> All right. So, next we would have the treasurer's report and budget summary provided by school district treasurer Megan Chapman. Um, that one we often also wave the reading of. Um, so if that is still good
006with everyone, I would look for a motion to >> We don't need a motion for that either. >> My heavens here. I did all this preparation just in case. >> Yep. We changed it. >> Great. >> All right, then. Let's take it away Jeff Mahoney with the hearing on the budget. All right. So, um Jeff Mahoney and I are uh going to be your dynamic duo here to provide present the hearing on the budget to you. The first thing we want to talk about is the bianial budget. And when the reason why we're talking about the state budget is it provides the context for our individual budget. Some things to keep in mind about state funding in Wisconsin is unfortunately school funding has not kept up with inflation. So the current estimates are over $3,200
007per student short of what the inflation would be. So that's, you know, over $7 million for our school district that uh we are losing because in 2009 the state decided to no longer index school funding to inflation. Result is that as of 2023, Wisconsin is spending 10% less per student than the national average. and we dropped from 11th in the nation in 2002 for school funding to 26th in 2023. We use 2023 by the way because that's the most recent data available. So the state banial budget was passed in July and there's a few things to note. One thing is there was an increase in special education funding. It was very slight amounts to about $200,000 for the school district of McFarland and that has not kept up with inflation. The actual cost of special
008ed have have skyrocketed. Very important um funding that is needed but the one one estimate has it being that special education costs have increased 84% in the last 15 years. In terms of general aid, that funding has not rec increased from the state in the last two years. So, um, what that means, and we'll talk about that a little bit later, is it puts more burden on the taxpayer, the local taxpayer terms of open enrollment, the state bianual budget did increase open enrollment. So what that means is that this is the amount of money that a receiving district for an open enrollment situation gets to keep of the total expenditure. So when a student open enrolls out of a district, the local resident school district keeps a portion of those funds and the majority of
009those funds go to the receiving school district. and they've increased the state budget, didn't increase the total amount of funding, just the portion of that open enrollment uh amount that is received by a school district. So, where this really benefits are districts that have more students open enrolling into their district than those that have people open and rolling out. We are very fortunate to be one of those districts where people more people choose to come here than choose to go somewhere else. So we estimate that's approximately $144,000 increase for us as a result of of this change in the state budget for our brick andmortar schools. Now keep in mind we also are the authorizer for the Wisconsin virtualmies and that is a district where all of the students that enroll there are done through
010open enrollment. As a result of that increase, um, we receive a portion of those funds for our oversight and that results in an additional $194,000 for a district. So, combined that's a significant amount of money that the bienial budget change resulted for us, but other districts are losing out on those funds in the state. Finally, want to point out that the bianial budget uh increased funding for charter and choice schools. So, private um education. Our state continues to fund two education systems and our local taxpayers, all of you in McFarland are tax 20 over $230,000. Those funds go to private schools of your tax dollars. Some key budget notes. One of the thing um that is really uh important to acknowledge is we were entering this year anticipating having a budget deficit of $3990,000 and
011fortunate that through some increased revenues and decreased expenses that we are able to share with you a balanced budget. So in terms of expenses, we now have a new insurance provider and plan that resulted in significant savings below what we anticipated we would be spending. We also paused hiring for a vacant position. In this case, it was our diversity, equity, and inclusion belonging coordinator. That position was vacated and it was not filled, remains paused. We saved some funds through energy efficiency and other budget adjustments. And we also were able to finalize wage increases for our staff so we can attract and retain the highquality staff that you have come to expect and know in our district revenues. I mentioned about the oversight fees um from those virtualmies in addition to the bianial budget. Adding to
012that, the enrollment in the virtualmies continues to increase. Uh I believe there are over 5,000 students from the state of Wisconsin that choose to attend one of the schools in the Wisconsin virtualmies. We also have you never know what interest earnings will be and we're pleased to report that we had an increase in interest earnings. One of the things um that the the state budget did approve uh was a $325 per student increase on the revenue cap. Um so that results in addition add additional revenues for the district. And of course, as you know, the majority of the voting um taxpayers voted to increase the revenue cap for the school district through an operational referendum resulting in $1.75 million. So, that is just an overview of some some of the bigger items that resulted in
013a balanced budget. And now I turn to Mr. Mahoney. Well, thank you and thank you for coming uh to the 64th. I was just commenting to Aaron that uh I've gotten to be a part of school district for over one-third of those that I'm here 22 years um and helping uh guide the district and through its funding and expenditure needs. So, um thank you for allowing me to do that. Um few years ago we started with this slide because really a lot of people were always wondering well what is the tax levy? Jeeoff why don't you just tell us right up front and get at this. So uh the result of the budget at this point um and what we're presenting this evening will result in a 15.04% increase in our tax levy. That includes
01419.6% 6% for the general fund which is going to be can be taxed up to 17.7 million and we'll get into that a little bit more. And our debt service is coming in at 46 4.6 million. And our capital expansion fund which is actually within the revenue cap is 249,000 and our community service fund $532,000. So 15% overall 7% or about half of that is due to the operational referendum as planned. Total for all budgets. Um you know it's kind of interesting to think that you know we're starting when you take a look at the entire budgets that we manage and account for all the transactions approaching just over hund00 million of which 43.8 8 million of that is for the virtualmies that Mr. Tarner had talked about and again that is money that is
015passed through us. We retain four to 5% of a management fee for each of the dollars that go through and uh for those expenditures. So that is a transaction that is part of our books. Um that school does that operation which is an independent charter uh non-instrumentality charter school that has its own school board. Uh they do have their own set of books but the way the state operates that money does flow through us and then we pass it through to the virtual school. There are six major funds in our school district. the general fund, general education, special education fund, which we'll have a slide on that, debt service fund, again, our house payments, our capital projects, school nutrition fund, and the community service fund. Aaron's already moving me to the next one, keeping me
016on time here. There's no Brewers game tonight, so that would have been completed. That would have been a four o'clock. So, our general fund, uh, balanced budget, 82.8 million. So, really, again, about $39 million is our actual brick andmortar school district budget. >> Uh, question, if you want to come up to the mic. >> Y, >> state your name, address. >> Yeah. Is that slide in the book here what you're referring to? I I can't seem to find it. It's probably me. Jim Hickey. >> Yes. So, >> where would that be in here? >> So, um you're going to find budget adoption documentation and each of the areas that I'm talking about have their Yep. >> No, the slide. We did not copy the slides, >> right? >> But the chart else The same information
017is in pages >> the same information is in page seven through >> 13. >> Oh, you're welcome. >> We we could provide a copy at the end of this. >> That'd be helpful. >> Donate. Thank you. So, um, our budget is balanced this year by one, the referendum that our community supported of $1.75 million. This is the second year of that three-year referendum. Additionally, the virtual schools oversight fees account for $1.7 million of our budgeted revenues. That's you think about that. That almost equals exactly what our referendum amount is for this year. So without $1.7 million, we would have had to have larger referendums to keep our schools operating the way they are. So it is a very important partnership that we have. interest earnings this year. Uh instead of looking at about $200,000 like
018we've been counting on for a while, we moved to $450,000. Um our average has the last five years been closer to about $450 to $475,000. So we're counting on those interest earnings off of our uh reserves and then various other budget adjustments and reductions in expenses and increases in small areas of revenues. So that is our general fund. More detail on the general fund. Just a reminder, the revenue cap minus state aid equals property tax. So we got a gut punch from our state of a decrease of nearly $812,000 less in state aid. It's a 5% loss. So basically all the aid we had received in addition last year was lost this year due to our state's decision not to use any of their reserves. So basically we're at the 23248 amount. If you accounted
019for even a modest 2.9% inflationary adjustment, it's as if we don't have a million dollars that we would have normally seen from our state because basically the last seven years they've been averaging increases in state aid of 5.2%. As a note, the McFarland receives.26% of statewide total aid. So, as you can see there in the red, the revenue cap 32 $33 million. You minus your state aid. That's your formula. There's a lot that more that goes into it, but those that's the basics of it. Revenue cap minus state aid is property tax. >> Yes. >> Sure. >> Can you go up to the microphone, please? Thank you. Okay. >> Can't make up that slide. >> That's really interesting. So, you're saying that all statewide? >> Yep. >> We think so. >> Yeah. It's really interesting.
020Okay. Thank you. >> So, one of the really big things that we always have to be mindful because our revenue cap is based on the number of students we have that are residents. >> McFarland School District. On the right hand side, you can see the residentonly graph. I'm not going to get into the numbers too much, but you can see that our resident enrollment is starting a dip. It's on this third year of a decrease. However, we're not as low as our 2013, 14, 14, 15. Those years, those were years that if you were to look at the right hand side up at the top, open enrollment in. And again, sorry, these are kind of small for the distance we have here, but we had higher open enrollment in. That's because we've been fortunate that
021we can balance. Now, you can see the uptick on the farther right hand side of that top graph on the right hand side for open enrollment in. That's because we have the lower class sizes. So, as our school board sets open enrollment limits each January, we will continue to see that we will be open for students that may want to come to our school district. We're in competition with everybody else in Dane County. Every school district has open enrollment in across the state. We have declining residential enrollment in public schools for various reasons. one, there are more choices that become more attractive families because they're being funded by our state through other systems and also decline in birth rates. So, it it is challenging uh to have all these situations, but it is a reality.
022One thing I do want to point out just because it is hard to see that the xaxis on the open enrollment in and out are different numbers. So, the top number on in is 350 and the top number on out is 70. So you can't superimpose those on top of each other. I just wanted to make sure people don't think we have more open and roll out than in. It's dramatically >> and that's reflected in the numbers on the the left hand side about our net increase is 110 kids. We have 110 more kids coming in than are leaving the district. All right. Special education fund fund 27. Now, fund 27 receives $4.7 million annually from the general fund as a transfer. Special education is nearing about $9 million annually in our um school district.
023So, our sources of income are 52% from the our fund 10 taxpayers, 24% from the state, 24% from the federal government at this point. Um, state reimbursement, Aaron talked about that there was an increase. They're looking at what is it 42% I think for this year. 34. But >> it it's gonna be challenging because everybody's expenses across the state are growing six to 10%. So it's really just going to eat into the new money that's being put in place for special education >> and and that's some certain too. So it's not like there's there's a set amount of dollars. Yeah. >> And then it gets Yep. >> So that percentage increase gets eroded. And for a school district that has declining enrollment and we have less students in special education, but we still have to
024offer as many services as we have, it it's going to be a challenge. >> So just to to explain that difference to the public about some certain versus some sufficient. So some sufficient would say we're going to fund this at this percentage regardless of how much it costs. Uh that's some sufficient. some certain is what the state did is said we're going to allocate this much amount of money >> to this regardless of how much it costs and so what they're anticipating is the actual percentage of funding will be much lower because the cost will be higher than expected. Yeah, Jim, you had a question. >> Can you use the mic or >> you're on TV? We appreciate it. >> Just then everyone who is watching can hear. Jeff, you would know and Erin, you
025might also, but uh maybe you could explain what originally that percentage of the state was going to reimburse special ed uh back I think it goes back to Tommy Thompson for the millions of visitors or viewers here so they understand exactly the commitment, should we say lack of commitment and how our legislature and our governors have basically screwed this entire system of special ed based upon which they promised and I think you probably know the answer if not Jeff so >> either one >> um the the correct answer is 2/3 >> so that would be if I'm correct 66% correct >> yes >> what's it now >> well uh this year is supposed to be about 44% >> Yep and that's an increase >> y Correct. So, >> we've been as low as 24% in
026the last decade. >> So, to the millions of viewers out there watching this, it would seem to me it would necessitate a phone call, something maybe a no kings march. Um, how about a please fund us march? >> Uh, anyway, thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. All right, debt service fund. You know, kind of some exciting news on this because we're starting to rapidly approach uh a time frame of which uh debt service is our mortgage payments and our mortgage payments are going towards our last referendum, which was passed in 2016, uh the $65.1 million referendum. Um but uh on the horizon in 2829 uh we will have a $700,000 or 14% decrease in that uh particular uh line item of our property tax bills. And if someone want to know what's that mean
027to me as a homeowner, it's about $110 for a $450,000 home. So while you can't plan for it yet, we do have some good news in the future. for 28 29 little known fact you can create up to 10% of debt on equalized value. So right now we're riding at about 2%. So the school district if they wanted could increase debt by 8% to have more buildings but obviously that would take referendums and our 2016 referendum set the school district up for success. So, capital projects fund. Um, you know, for 22 years we've been living >> question about debt service. >> Jeffrey, uh, Erin, Miss Fesler, help me out. Is there a difference between what the village municipality can do relative to uh accessing uh money for referendums or non-referendums versus a school district? Uh
028as far as a municipality goes, I I've heard things and I just fact-wise I I don't know. I'm asking a question. In other words, can a village a village municipality um get funds without going to a referendum whereas a school district would have to go to a referendum, excuse me, for those same funds? >> Question. >> A school district must go to referendums for both operational and debt service. >> What about the village? >> The village has to do operational. They have the opportunity to do capital projects without a referendum, >> but it depends on what their local ordinances are as well. >> You you probably don't know what our local ordinance is >> for. Uh now again, we have five municipalities in our school district. >> Let's just go with the village McFarland. I
029don't >> I suspect what a school district has to do compared to what a village or township. >> All right, back to capital projects. Um, pleased to note that we have been able to take care of the majority of our large projects, both boilers, parking lots, and roofs, uh, using about $249,000 annually over the last 22 years. We kind of build cycles. Certainly, the referendum in 2016 took care of an amount of projects. um you know refreshing uh MPS, the middle school, good portions of the high school and Wisa is a much newer school. Um however, we are in the midst of uh conquering the high school roofing areas that were not completed um during the referendum and they weren't planned to be uh as they had more years of life on them. So uh
030the remaining projects that need to be on this high school about $6 million worth. We completed 1.3 million this summer. We're planning about 750,000 to a million next summer. Uh we will have to get to a point where we'll discuss with our school board how we're going to fund the remainder of those projects over the next few years. Uh but we do have uh roofs that are coming of age. Uh they do need to be replaced due to insurance needs as well. if you've been following even homeowners, homeowners are being dropped if they don't have their uh roofs um up to date or they may not even receive any money if they have a casualty. So, we've been doing really well, I think, with the capital projects fund over the last 22 years. >> Can
031you share one of my favorite fun facts, which is how many different levels of roof there are at the high school? The roof sections at the high school are about 27 different roof sections. >> So, I love that >> we completed A gym, B gym, and the locker room area, uh, which are really large, big expanses, and those come in a little bit square footage less than all these little tiny uh, roof sections that we'll be conquering over the next four to five years. So, I think there's a question in the crowd. >> Yes. You get to Yeah. >> Yeah. You get to >> Harland Alverson 4128 Mahoney. Uh I was on all these roofs. I know they're they're t they've been basically a flat roof. They're very low pitch whatever. But we got the
032new rubber roofing on. I was wondering on covering that because I watch commercials on TV too that you know on your house you could have somebody come in and spray it on and get more new life left in it. You know what I mean? Mhm. >> So, is that an option on this roof? >> Uh, so on sections we're evaluating which ones we can do that on. You'll be happy to know that we did that at Wisa uh last year summer. That one uh was available and we tested out the insulation. Insulation was still good. So, we did a spray-on that took us for a 20 year uh roof life on that for a cost of 320,000 >> uh versus a full tear off. which fills landfills, stuff like that would have been closer to
033600,000. So, >> so each of our sections were evaluating that. >> Uh this summer, I'm glad you kind of brought it up, Aron. Uh our roofing company evaluated our insulation. We did our have a third party that took some cores. Our insulation over aim was in good shape. So, we were able to uh keep the current insulation in all spots. So, again, not filling the landfills and keeping our cost down. Thank you. >> Thanks for following that up. >> School nutrition, food service, fun 50. Some highlights here. Just, you know, people wonder, Jeff, why do you talk about the National School Lunch Program back in 2022? Well, for a period of time, the National School Lunch Program paid for all meals and they indexed it at basically the highest costs in this United States. So
034the McFarland school district which operated much less expensively was building fund balance. So in 2324 our fund balance in food service was 534,000. There are requirements that you cannot have more than a six-month operating budget in reserves. So over 2425 and this year as well we have planned deficits of using some of our balances. Thus, we have not increased fees for families. However, we're getting to the point where probably in 26 27 and there on we will have to start to increase our fees for our families to have lunch unless things change. Um but um some exciting things we do do are uh reduce students, which are not many. Um most of our students are either free or paid. There's a little caveat for having to pay 40 cents a meal. We don't do that
035in McFarland. It costs us about $5,000 to treat reduced families similar to free families, which is allowed underneath uh the federal government's laws. So, we're able to do that. Uh the time changes at the middle school and the high school, this being the second year of it, has increased more participation. And this is also our second year where our students at MPS do recess before they eat. So they're not in a rush to go do recess instead of, you know, rushing their meals. So, you know, this is the fun things that we have to talk about at an annual meeting. So, >> um, I have I have a question about that one. >> So, with the current political stuff happening, the shutdown and just cuts to federal things, how do you see that impacting McFarland?
036Well, uh, reimbursements for the federal level will be slower. >> Um, and that is another good reason for us to have a balance so that we can cover our expenses. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Community service. We are the provider of community services to our municipalities that are in our school district. It is taxpayer supported uh by 532,000 for our operational costs and then feebased programming covers the other 40%. Within that 532,000 $446,000 of it of the levy is for our MRAP programming, our aquatics programming and our PAC programming for our operational costs. And what I mean by operational costs is our uh coordinators and directors and a few lifeguards. The rest is covered by fees. Um we have some new exciting facility partnerships that we're moving forward with so that we have some
037more space uh both to utilize a little bit of the new hockey edition so that we can have a little space for doing um some uh community programming for our retirees. and also very young students or younger kids that are not students uh to do some programming during the day. So, we'll be probably starting that up more so in 2627 as we just formalize that. And as the village develops uh their community park to the east, we will also be looking to utilize their space that they're creating out there to do some programming, particularly maybe in the winter to do uh crosscountry skiing or snowshoeing or just even fall hikes and stuff like that. So, we're trying to find spaces we can use because our sites are busy during the day >> uh during the
038school year. So having some of these partners has been great. Uh we continue this year with a levy for the McFarland Youth Center of $26,000 of which is transferred to the youth center for the operation of that programming and also our school resource officer services we split with the village and our portion is 61,000 of that levy. >> Okay. So, I'm kind of curious with regard and and again, I don't know the answers um but um I saw something come across the email relative to a notice about the village and the McFarland Youth Center where supposedly the village is thinking of either decreasing, not continuing. Have you seen anything like that? >> Anybody? Yeah, we're aware of the the situation with the youth center, but the but we can't speak for the village. However, there's
039been no discussion of decreasing funding for the youth center by >> both the school district and the village. >> Okay. >> It's more about oversight. >> Oversight. Okay. Thanks. Um and the next thing is um I'm just curious. Uh, I live in the town of Dunn and does Dun get uh do we should I say pay our appropriate fair share uh as far as um to your community service fund? Are you getting something from all the different groups? I I don't even know. Okay, >> good question. >> Yeah, >> how does that work? Go ahead. >> Each municipality is has equalized value and our budget is divided up by the equalized value. >> Okay. Yeah, >> good question. >> Because I have that data, the town of Dun has 18 point, excuse me, 19.3% of
040the equalized value of the district in McFarland. So >> it is the second largest municipality in our school district for equalized value >> outside of the village of McFarland. >> The other municipalities are the city of Madison, town of Blooming Grove, town of Pleasant Springs, and town of Cottage Grove. >> Is that Did you do that in order of the percentage? >> Uh pretty much >> because it feels that way. >> Yeah. Right. >> I think my understanding is right. Love you. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Very helpful. >> Good. >> Want to make sure >> you ready? >> All righty. Um, >> yes. >> Item seven. >> What's that? Yeah. Item seven, adoption of a tax levy. Um so we would be looking for a resolution a tax levy resolution to fund the proposed budget
041in an appropriate manner. So um in your packets there's language there um that you can use if you are going to make a motion to make that resolution. >> Yes, Jim. >> Great. But um I'm kind of curious um understanding this is a you know annual meeting. >> Let's say someone wanted to put something in. I wanted a new basketball court for the school. You know what I mean? >> Is this the time you make a recommendation to the crew or when would that be? Or you can't do that or how's that work? Yeah, that isn't within the powers of an annual meeting. So, the electors can't make that decision at an annual meeting. They don't have that power to do that. >> Okay. So, there's no um you can't add anything. It's either this
042or nothing. Either adopt this or a different number. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Pretty much. >> Can you increase the number? >> You can increase the number. However, the school board would then have to have a special meeting to decrease it back to the amount that they're allowed underneath law. >> Yeah, that's that revenue cap, >> which is the revenue cap. >> Yeah. Okay. >> I mean, you could you you could do it. It just they'd have to reverse it because they can't >> or they'd have to do something else and keep it and reverse something else inside to make the budget fit. Correct. >> We can't go over the levy. >> No, I understand that. But you would, and this is just kind of curious. You if you did that >> uh then you
043would have to uh >> let's say you did it >> you go to the board. >> Well, a member of the community can make a motion for it and then it's voted on and then another member can make a motion if it fails. >> Okay. Supposing it passes. >> Mhm. >> Then what? >> Then the school board has has the opportunity to have a meeting, a special meeting to change the levy to fit within the law and that they could change things internally to fit within the law. >> Internally here, let's say you came up with you wanted to add a I'm just maybe I could talk to you afterwards, but this is a community meeting, you know. It's >> true. >> Okay, thanks. So, let's say a guy wanted to say, okay, I want
044a um a new gym. Let's go with the new gym. Is that Is that all right? I mean, you guys all right with us? I mean, >> a little time. >> So, I say to you, I want to add in a new gym. I don't, by the way, um and um it's $5,000 extra. This for the sake of argument. Okay. Then that this group here would vote on that the additional 5,000 or the additional 5,000 being in the motion. You can create a resolution, >> correct, >> for a dollar amount that's different than what is. >> Okay. Think. Okay. So, let's say that resolution is $5,000 over >> this. >> And this group is like all all on board. Yeah. We're going to do it. Go for it. Right. >> It passes. Then what happens?
045Then the school board would have to have a special meeting to revert it to the revenue cap limit >> because we can't go over. >> It cannot go over. >> I understand not be I understand >> it wouldn't be binding. >> Cor it wouldn't be binding but the board >> when they meet on that extra 5,000s in went over 5,000 of the levy >> they can then go in and uh adjust things accordingly to include that 5,000. maybe getting something else, adjusting something internally. No, >> you can't go over the levy limit. >> No, I understand they would have to reduce the levy. If >> they wanted to, the school board could allocate fund balance or redesign a budget or ask if there's a grant or something, >> but it cannot levy more than what
046the tax >> We can't say to the taxpayers, you need to pay $5,000. you just said Jeff is helpful. >> Okay. >> Um before we get to the resolution, unless someone's just jumping to the bit to get the resolution, anyone out there? >> Okay. Can you give us some example uh of what or the number that is taken off the top of this district to go to the state funded and it comes off the top I think to go to help fund the voucher school the what I would call the second school uh program that the state funds both the private voucher and the public. So, what number do we take off the top here that our taxpayers, I assume, have to send in to the state off the top to help fund the private
047schools? Do we have that number? And am I am I accurate with what I'm seeing? Mhm. >> So, in the information we receive on our equalized aid, the state does not report to us any longer the program dollar amounts that go to the Rine or the Milwaukee Choice programs. >> However, as we reported earlier, >> oh, sorry. >> Our direct hit on our school district for the um charter schools, independent charter schools, is $230,000. that is taxed and then goes elsewhere. >> So there are two two points here, Jim. One is we used to receive information that, you know, a half million dollars comes out of the statewide aid and a portion of it that is for our school district. They no longer report that. >> But of the charter school system, right, >> we
048have that number and it's 230. Yeah. >> Can I'm sorry I didn't see that. I wasn't listening very I've been known not to listen. Well, >> I don't know if you were here. I think you hadn't come yet. >> Isn't that interesting? And I've been late often times, too. >> But, uh, Mr. Mahoney or Jeff, um, do you have any recollection of what we, you know, we don't know what that number is, which of course the thousands of viewers out there, boy, I'd like to know how much this district pays to that siphoned right off the top that goes to private schools. private a whole another system. So Jeff, do you have any recollection about maybe before they stopped doing it? Geez, I wonder why they stopped doing it. But I'm curious in what the
049number might be, Jeff. >> Back in the day, back in the day, and I I won't hold you to it, but I'm just give gives us a little ballpark. >> Kind of looking back at my notes. >> Sounds like it's certainly more than 230,000. Yeah. Yes. It certainly was more than the amount that is taxed for the independent charter schools. >> Um >> Jim, I may have to say it's probably about 270 to 300,000 it used to be. >> 353 rings a number, but they've stopped reporting that information. >> And how long how long has that been? >> Couple years. >> Yeah. >> Like two. Again, to the many viewers out there in our local newspaper, uh that might be something to continue to investigate how public schools are funding the private schools in Wisconsin.
050So, we have finite funds. Is that correct? Funding two school districts, private part partially and public. >> Is that really Can we afford that? Again, this goes out to the millions of viewers. Thank you very much. appreciate your time. >> To add on to yours, I guess I would say >> for the private ones, it's it's funding that's not the schools aren't regulated in the same way and held accountable in the same way. And for taxpayer dollars, that's the important part, right? >> Oh, we could talk I mean, I could spend a lot of time up here >> talking about that, but my sense is with a it seems that we have more community members that have more important things to bring forth. But thank you for pointing that out. But absolutely, I would just
051conclude that the playing field for the private funded schools that we help fund have not anywhere near >> anywhere near what we as a public school have to uh take care of regulations in that. And I'm all for private schools. I'm a product of an elementary Catholic, God bless me, private school. But I'll tell you what, if you're gonna go there, you pay for it. >> Thanks. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Hi, Melanie Roach. Um, I just have a question. I don't know if there's a like a very simple non-technical answer. I'm just I don't quite follow um why the state aid is less this year and not just like a lower proportion compared to the rising uh revenue limit. And and part of the reason I'm asking is I just
052like in looking at something else I noticed that was pop the Wisconsin public education network also points out that like a number 66% of districts around the state are seeing a lower amount of state aid coming into their school districts. And so I just I don't >> Yeah, I thought it was the same. I thought it just didn't go up. >> Nope. It's uh going the other way for us. And that is why our levy is going up because revenue cap minus state A equals property tax. But uh there are several factors. One, we do have declining enrollment like other school districts. So and it's probably good chance over 70% of the school districts across the state are >> are losing. So, and then you have the school districts that are gaining some population and
053there are some um number three basically would be is your amount of spending. While we've had a referendum recently, your state aid is based on your spending. And we are behind other school districts that one have already passed several referendums and are much further ahead of us on a per pupil amount. So they're receiving more state aid. Um so that's a challenge even though we had a successful referendum. It would be worse if we had not had. Um and number three, uh I just lost my thought is the fact that we're growing at about 8.3% for our equalized value where the state average was 7%. So we are starting to look more rich in the state aid formula where we used to look a little poorer in the state aid formula. Was there an impact
054too for the last year we had more than was anticipated in state aid that we received and was that related to Milwaukee public schools? >> Yes. >> And that was a unique situation for that one year. >> Great. That's helpful. And it's not like lower enrollment decreases our expenses because we still need the same staffing and all that. >> Thanks, Melanie. Hello. It's so fun to be on this side. Uh, Megan Chapman, 6142 Pineeridge Way. Before I move into a resolution, I would just like to thank our Dayne County and other local representatives for always being a champion for public education funding. Uh, we are lucky to live in an area that believes in public education. And if for those of you who are upset with the current uh state funding that we are receiving,
055I highly suggest you get involved not only within Dane County but throughout the state. Um because the only way that we can really affect change is if we all work together and that really goes outside the confines of Dane County. Uh so with that being said, I would like to make a motion. Uh, be it resolved that the school board be authorized to levy a tax of 23,136,117 for the 202526 school year. Thank you. >> Thanks, Megan. Great point about the advocacy, too. So, I would look for a second on the motion to the for the resolution. >> Cassander Dennis 5903 running deer trail. I would like to second the motion. Thank you. All right. Any further discussion on the motion? Jim Hickey, >> do you want to come up to the You gota come
056up to the >> Can you come up to the microphone? >> I'm sure I either missed it or didn't listen very well, but what impact uh does that have on the a quote unquote average house? You probably said that already, but do you mind repeating it? So our levy is going up 15%. Overall >> it is difficult to go to an average or how this might come about because we don't know the differences between the average for our municipality was an 8% increase in equalized value. So there'll be people that have less than average and more than average. Additionally, there are differences in the municipalities and how their equalized assessed values than for the shift >> as well. >> Thanks, Jim. But I will say one thing that if we take what our estimates were
057in the 2024 referendum, we are within about $50 of where we thought year two would be. The other thing is that we don't know the amount for the school tax school >> tax levy credit >> um which is also applied onto your tax bill >> but is applied at the municipal level. >> So again it is as a gut punch from our state. >> I think I started that >> you did earlier. >> Yeah. You can just come on up to the microphone if you want. What? You call a question. >> She wants to vote. >> Oh, got it. Okay. >> Thank you. All right. Um, so all in favor of um this resolution, um, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> Any opposed? All right. Motion carries unanimously. >> All right. The next
058item is coming up. Um, yes. Talking about um salaries for schoolboard members. Would you Are you okay if I >> go for it? >> Continue on. >> Yep. >> Um, so currently all of our school member school board members are compensated equally at $3,700 annually. That was last increase in 2023. And that's 93% of the average amount in Dayne County. In most districts, the president receives additional compensation above and beyond what other members receive. Um, currently our amount is 72% of the average compre compensation in Dayne County. And just a reminder that being a school board member isn't any easier today than it was yesterday. So it becomes more and more complex as you can see with these funding issues being some of them. So um, at this point the the process for making a
059motion for >> for the Yeah. So, I would look for a motion um to set the schoolboard member compensation. Um and when you make the motion, you can suggest the annual salary that you think is appropriate. >> Jim, what would be the percent to bring you up to the county average? >> I can look, but I have to stop sharing my screen. to do that. >> Be careful. >> Can you math? >> I mean, we have it in that chart, the pretty little chart. >> Let me just look it up. I will tell you. I'm not going to show it because then you'll know how much everybody, you know, makes around the county. And that's not probably something they wanted me to share. All right. So the average is 5,136 [Music] dollars >> and that's
060a r but keep in mind >> the range >> that's a range from to 12,000. It does not include Madison, by the way, to 12,354. >> There's a pretty big range from,500 to over 12. >> Okay. >> I would just like to clarify that that $12,000 salary, is that indicative of a presidency within a school board? >> Oh gosh, you caught me. Thank you. >> You're welcome. Thanks for your help. >> You're welcome. >> Um, that's a presidency. Let's go back. Okay. >> Average with Oh, that's very helpful. So, I apologize. Um, was not prepared for this question. The average of other members in without McFarland is 3970. >> So, we're pretty close. >> Yeah. >> 3970. And we're at 3,700 and it's 3,9689. Thank you. >> Yes, the range for presidents is much greater.
061[Music] >> Do I have >> Okay, give me that number back again. And I was disturbed by uh Tom members >> disturbing. Excuse me. Go ahead. >> The average of other members is 3,970 >> roughly. 70. >> Oh god. Yeah. >> $3,970. >> I took off the pennies. >> Okay. Um I I'd make a motion. $3,970 is the average. Correct. >> Correct. And we're at 3,700. >> Correct. And this is where it's been since 2023. Correct. >> Correct. >> So I would like to suggest or make a motion that we move that salary and hopefully Angie this is you know right even Stephen because my math is terrible but to $4,000 uh for the board. >> Okay. Are >> you're making that motion? >> Yeah, that was a motion. Okay. Cassandra Dennis, while I love
062Jim's um motion, I am worried about where that funding is going to come from. And given that our levy is going to be going up, how are we going to pay that premium? I believe that every school member is schoolboard member is worth it. I am just worried about the funding and how long we can sustain that increase. >> with all respect, can I talk? >> Yeah. Um, yeah. Why don't we see if there's a second first and then we'll open up for discussion. >> Point. Yeah. >> There a second. >> Is there a second >> For 4,000. >> Oh, you got to be kidding. >> All right. >> Can Can I say something about that? Um, I think >> Yeah, he can. I mean, he made the original motion. >> Yeah, go for it.
063>> Yeah, go ahead. >> Okay, folks. >> Huh? Are you going to say something? >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm not in charge. I are. Yeah. I just >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> I would like to second the uh motion to set the annual Excuse me, the schoolboard member annual compensation at a salary of $4,000. >> Okay. So, we do have second. >> So, we do have a second. Okay. So, let's open up for discussion. based on the temperature of the reading in the room prior to uh the previous um second. I would just like to say that uh you know I don't I don't want this taken wrong and I know we're all humble but I'll tell you what if we as a district parents cannot afford to pay what's the difference from 37 something
064to 4,000 $1,500 to a board member you know, times five. I mean, I would be willing to spend a week with Mahoney, which is really challenging. He may not want the week, but I'll bet you a hund I would bet you we could come up with the difference and it would not impact programming. >> I mean, I I just I mean, let me just say this. our and I'm not a big fan of well our school boards if you don't know are on the front end. They're on the front end. They're the ones that get their teeth kicked in. And this the state legislature intentionally has done that. >> So what the heck? Why can't we come up with 50? And I know board members, you're going to be humble. That's the way it is.
065I know back in the day Arlland Halverson he they boy I'll tell you back in those days howry you know that crew I mean the rest of them mooney my god well he was out of scat humble humble humble think about it folks I would just hope we could pass that amount of money seriously and to the millions of visitors out there I would be willing to do a filibuster right now We don't filibuster I think >> to provide an opportunity to millions of viewers out there to come in and help do this. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> We appreciate your comments. >> Is there any other discussion before we take a vote? >> Okay. >> I I really really appreciate this school board. I think we probably have the best school board in
066the state. Um, but I also think that that extra $300 is probably not what our school board members are in it for. And I mean, if I were a school board member, I would just think that that 300 pro could probably be better spent in our schools and in the classroom. And that's that's why they're serving it. I would I think they're worth five times as much, but I don't, you know, I think that that 300 could be better spent. >> Thanks, Melanie. >> All right. Anything else? >> Tom Mooney 6205 doesn't run. After serving on the board a couple terms, you certainly are worth it. I mean the work, the time, the responsibilities, the stress, the anxiety, >> you know, that is invaluable. But I have to take a look to see what's happening
067in the schools, in the classrooms. I just have a hard time uh accepting or agreeing to a pay raise when everything within the classrooms are pretty well flat. >> And the teachers are the core of the district here. They're the ones that are interacting with kids on a daily basis. So again, um if we were to increase it, I would have to vote no. >> My conscious would have to vote no at this point. >> Thanks, Tom. Um I would say the um speaking just for myself, not for other board members um and just as an elect le elector in this meeting. Um I I feel the same way as Tom does. I really appreciate your comments, Jim. I think I think you're spot on with a lot of it. Um, but I don't I
068also wouldn't be able to I mean I just I would rather put the money towards the staff and the kids and the things that the students really need if it's um yeah, we've talked about before none of the board members here are while we appreciate the compensation, we're not we're not here for the money. So, but I appreciate your comments about value. So, I feel that way about all my fellow board members, too. So, all right. So, let's look for a vote unless there's any other comments. Um, >> yes, >> it's a tough thing to go through. I understand that. And I I think I think everybody earns their money around here top to bottom depend no matter what the position you're in. You're all doing your work. I just don't want to end up
069like some of our neighboring districts that you get some tight ass old farmers out there that don't want to give up anything for you. and I'm a farmer >> and and um I I think uh leveling the table on this is something that has to be done whether you we can live with it. We can massage a lot of different things. Sometimes money shows up anyway. >> Not all the time, but it does. So I uh I I would support that >> because I think that's not too far out of range. You're not, it's not a big reach, >> but it's a respectable reach because if you want to have decent board members, they still got their family at home. You still got neighbors, you still got a whole connection. People jump you in the
070store, whatever. So, you have to build relationships wide. >> And so, they earn their oats. And I think for that amount, it ain't going to break the bank. We're going to survive. And something maybe better may be coming or we can make something better. >> That's my belief. >> Okay. Yep. Thank you. >> Here a follow-up question. What um so if our school board right now salary is 93% of the Dan County average, what's our staff average salary percentage of Dane County? >> Not 93%. >> That's what I like. It's it's significantly less than that, right? >> We're still in the bottom three or four. starting salary. >> Okay. Okay. >> Um, you know, I mean, I think you know, the last time the the board was u compensated was discussed was 2023 if I'm
071correct. Okay. So, if the board member doesn't feel comfortable with a what, $300 raise for the year, they could do what Donald Trump does, uh, Barack Obama did and other people where they can donate, write a check if they want to school and then let the school pick that up. But that way it just keeps things moving along or there's going to be a big gap somewhere and and and that could be a potential problem. So my thought to the board members that you know would feel uncomfortable which I understand >> um is to do that. Make a private donation of some sort to a specific program and I could name more programs for you. So I'd be uh more than welcome to do that. Okay? And there's probably other people that could too. But
072I would suggest to the crew here, pass it, make your donation, and a board member then can make a donation if they want to a program. And if there's confusion about what program you could donate it to, I have a couple ideas. So, >> all right. Thanks, Jim. >> All right. Let's um let's take a vote and see where we're at and see what happens. Okay. So, um, on the motion for increasing the school board members compensation to 4,000 annually, um, all in favor, please say signify by saying I. >> I. >> Okay. And all those not in favor, please signify by saying no or. >> All right. So, I think we have to do hand raise. Let's do a hand raise. Just had to check to see if we were going to get unanimous.
073Um, okay. So all those in favor please signify by raising your hand. One, two, three, four, five, six. All right. All those opposed, please signify by raising your hand now. Two, three, four, five. Oh, I have to vote. Okay. Six. Okay. So, we are at um a tie. >> Um All right. Um, what do we do in the event of a tie? >> Well, it doesn't pass. >> Yeah, it doesn't pass. So, we would need a new motion, >> or you could attempt to persuade someone. >> Yes. >> Do we have time to do some persuasion? >> You do, >> but you need to do so on the microphone. >> The microphone. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> No side deals. out there public. >> I did not just get paid. Okay. Um Meredith Huey, 5003
074Wild Ride Court. Um also a school board member and part of our electorate this evening. Um, if we were to consider the motion that's set before us, financially, can we be very clear what that would mean per year um and per per term for each school board member? >> So that means it's $1,500 more. Five board members, $300 each, right? >> So 1,500 times five. No. >> Total four. So by three for our three-year elected term. >> Oh yes. >> Y. >> Thank you. >> So per school board member for one term it's an additional $900. >> Three years. Correct. 300 additional dollars. >> $1,500 additional annually for the school district cost. Okay. Megan Chapman 6142 Pine Ridgeway again. So um a wise woman once told me your time is valuable and once you devalue
075your time so does your word. Um anyone who joins a school board they're doing it out of a love for community out of love for students and a love of education. That being said we do spend a lot of time away from our families. Um, and I know personally sometimes that time away spent away from my family is detrimental and it's very difficult. So I understand the financial situation that the district is currently in. But I also feel that increased compensation will invigorate, energize, and ultimately will lead to even more and I'm not saying compensation lead to positive outcomes. I'm just saying that our time is valuable >> and for us to be away from our families, I think that's really something to take into consideration. >> Thanks, Megan. >> Well, >> we still want
076the people at home to be able to hear though. >> Well, just for the public. >> Yeah. That's not present. I'm never one I'm never one to look uh I'm I'm a frugal person and uh you know I mean with what you just said. I mean $300, right? You could take your kids to out to eat a couple times. You know, maybe go to uh join the Ice Age Alliance uh for get them the membership. Go watch it. you know, multiple things. >> So, I understand how you all feel. Some of you that voted no that tied this thing, we just need one other one other we're talking $300. That's a lot of money. I understand. Uh so, I I don't know. I mean, just for the >> if you go back and look at
077last year's meeting, it's really hard to hear any of the discussion and that's why we did it this way because I think the people listening at home just miss out on a lot if we don't discuss in a microphone. >> Maybe. So, one other thing I do want to point out, um, with being on the school board is that the majority of our meetings are at night. >> Um, and I I'm lucky enough that I have adult children. Um, minus a puppy at home, but you know, but I mean, as more young families start to get involved on the school board, you're also going to have start looking at child care and child care, meals, those are all expenses and those expenses are going up. And so, like Mr. Hickeyi said that $300. I can't
078tell you how many times I picked up Culver's on the way home. >> Thanks, man. >> I think you will. >> Tom again, Jim. I can argue I I can I will argue against that. And you don't know how I feel. People will say, you know, you know how you feel. I don't think that's an accurate statement. No knows how anyone feels unless it's they themselves. Clarification for schoolboard members that have young children. Is there a clause that states that child care can be provided? I know we had talked about at one time there >> but again my bottom line is knowing what's happening or not happening in the classroom with the kids. It would hard for be hard for me to say we need an increase. We deserve an increase certainly, >> but based
079on all the uh other things that we have to weigh >> again, I would still be a no vote. >> And doesn't matter if I'm retired or from a young parent, you know, and I don't want to say I will say I'm here for the kids. We all are, though. >> I certainly understand everybody's rationale for it. Um, but I hope everybody's respectful of everyone's different rationale also. >> Thanks, >> Cassandra. Dennis again. I just wanted to comment on Megan's comment about the percentage that your school board members are paid versus our starting staff. And so I'm wondering since we are at a deadlock here, I would assume we could put forward a new motion. >> So I would like to move to set the school board member compensation at a salary of 38.50 annually
080to split the difference to see if we can get movement. >> Thank you, Cassandra. Do I have a second? Craig Herry, 4604 Sigleco Road. And I believe that there will be no difference in the performance of this district's school board regardless of what they're being paid. >> You know, if if if you turn the rates down, nobody's going to hold that against you. None of the of the I've been on the school board for 16 years. I don't know anyone who was doing it for the money. >> People care about the kids. >> Okay. >> Do you are you seconding it >> or No, >> I'll second. >> Okay. Thank you. >> All right. Um >> just for those out in the public, I will second that motion. >> Thank you, Craig. Thank you. Good
081job. >> All right, we'll do let's do a vote right away. We've heard lots of arguments. Um and so this would be for the motion to increase the salary to 3,850 annually for schoolboard members. Um so all in favor, please signify by raising your hand. One, two, three, four, five, six, eight. Okay. All all opposed, please signify by raising your hand. Okay, that's four nos and eight yeses. So motion carries 8 to four. So the new school board member salary is would be increased to 3,850. Um before we move on, can we um get a reminder about how we because there's a tax impact if we accept the salary and if we then donate like there's a tax impact to schoolboard members. You're still taxed on taxed. >> Yes. So if we when are the
082two times a year that we can decline >> I don't have that memorized. I know it's right when you start a term. >> Okay. for >> May and six months later. >> Six months later. Yeah. December. >> Okay. Okay. Perfect. >> But you still pay taxes on the income unless you hit those two windows. >> Yes. Okay. Perfect. Okay. Thank you all for your comments. That was a great discussion. Um appreciate your support of schoolboard members regardless of where your vote fell. Um all right. So let's move to number nine. reimbursement of schoolboard members. Um would you like to talk about this? >> Yeah. So this is about reimbursing um schoolboard members when traveling for the performance of their duties. So it's the kind of necessary costs, food, lodging things while while traveling keeping in
083mind that the mileage is based on the IRS reimbursement rate. >> Okay. So, we would look for a motion um for that. Anyone like to do that? I can do that. >> I can. Yes, we can actually. >> All right. Megan Fesler. Um I move to authorize the payment of actual and necessary expenses of a schoolboard member when traveling in the performance of duties and their reimbursement for actual loss of earnings when duties require the schoolboard member to be absent from regular employment. I would look for a second. >> Craig Hry, 4604 Sigle Co. Road. I second the motion. >> Thanks, Craig. All right. Any discussion? Sounds like no. All right. So, let's go to vote. Um, all those in favor, please signify by raising your hands. All right. All those opposed, please signify by
084raising your hands at this moment. All right. Motion carries unanimously. Thank you. All right. And then number 10, disposal of surplus property. Talk about >> pretty clear cut. This just allows the district to sell and dispose of any tangible um property that we no longer need. >> Okay. Do I have a motion for that? Meredith Huie 50003 Wild Right Court. Um, be it resolved that the school board of the school district of McFarland is hereby authorized during the current school year to sell and dispose of any tangible personal property no longer needed by the school district and belonging to the school district. >> Thank you. Do I have a second? Someone's running to the microphone. >> Don't hurt yourself. >> Megan Chapman, 6142 Pine Ridgeway. I second the motion. >> Thanks, Megan. All right. Any
085discussion? >> Okay. All right. We're looking for a call to a vote. So, um, all those in favor, please signify by raising your hand. Okay. That was any opposed, please raise your hand. All right, motion carries unanimously. Thank you. And then um number 11, annual meeting date. This just allows the board to the proposed or the sample motion here allows the school board to determine the date of the annual meeting for 2026. We typically do it um at this time annually, but it would give the board the power to do so. Hello. Welcome. Thank you. >> Hello. Getting my steps in. Megan Chapman, 6142 Pineriidge Way. Be it resolved that pursuant to state statute 120.081, 081. The school board of the school district of McFarland is hereby authorized to set the annual meeting date for
0862026. >> Thank you. Do I have a second? >> Meredith Huie, I second. >> Thank you. All right. Any discussion? All right. Let's call for a vote. All those in favor, please signify by raising your hand. All those opposed um raise your hand. All right, motion carries unanimously. All right, so number 12, other new business within the power and authority of the annual meeting. And if you remember all the words that were up in the screen as well, >> and it's in your packet as well. Um, it's kind of limited, but if there's any other um business, please come up to the microphone. >> I just have a quick Craig Herry, 4604 Sigle Co. I have a quick question, Jeff. Is is the amount of money that we make selling these, you know, old equipment
087or is is that significant enough to not try to find a place to donate it to? >> So, if you're referring back to the action on the >> disposal surplus property. >> Yeah. So about every 3 to four years we rotate out technology um and make sale on that. Um we don't really have a lot of equipment that we sell because we use it as long as we can. Um and if we can't sell it, we donate it. Uh, hats off to Habitat for Humanity, which took >> 150 towel dispensers to uh instead of it going to the landfill because the contractor that was selling us new ones did not want to take the old ones. So, >> uh, it's out to restore. >> As long as that's, you know, out there. Yeah, we have
088a full process for making sure uh that we can either sell for value and put it towards our new expenses or donate to stay out of landfills. >> Thank you. >> True. Awesome. Thank you. Great question. Anything else? All right. I would look for a motion to adjurnn. [Music] >> Yeah. So moved. Jim Hickey. >> Thank you. >> Angie Stra seconded. >> Thank you, Angie. All right. I assume there's no discussion. So, all in favor? >> All in favor, please signify by raising your hand. All right, that's a lot. Any opposed? Raise your hand, please. All right. Motion carries unanimously. Thank you all for coming. >> It is very important that you all show up every year. >> Thank you, electors. >> Thank you.