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Mukwonago Area School District -Annual Board Meeting + Finance Meeting + Budget Hearing - 8/22/22

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YouTube / Mukwonago Area Schools
Date
2022-08-23
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Waukesha County, WI
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21,622 words · about 121 min
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2026-06-10

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001are you ready all right 6 15 if I was meeting the order July 18 2022 second thank you all right fund balanced designation okay so we are wrapping up our financial position our Auditors are helping us close our books out for the year we're ending in a great spot here so with some of the fun balance that we have left behind we want to designate that not as unassigned fund balance but we want to assign it so uh in the memo and I have it up on the screen right now uh those are the things we talked about here as one-time costs or one-time projects that we would do in the current school year with money that we left behind from the last school year so the total of that uh the total of that

002is 992 200 so rather than leave me we can certainly leave that money as unassigned fund balance but since we we have a game plan it's it meets the definition of assigned I did include in the memo here and I won't go to it on the screen but um board policy 6235 is fund balance and it just talks about the five categories of of fund balance so I think I'm recommending that we assign that amount 992 thousand two hundred dollars as a signed fund balance so it doesn't sit in the unassigned category I'll make a motion we approve the 992 200 as Tom has indicated in the memo second any discussion do you guys have any questions about that we've already talked about it yep it is this is a procedural thing in my view

003so since the we we agreed on those things let's take that money out of the unassigned part and put it into the assigned pot and ultimately where that money's committed so we know that okay all in favor all right is this just for the finance meeting are we all know got it that's what I thought but the school board will take official action here so we're ultimately recommending this to the school board coming up then give it an hour yeah uh weight room okay uh so as we continue to work down our long-range facility planning process our next meeting that we're going to have for that is coming up here in September so uh we don't have any you guys have a lot of special board meetings going on right now with the superintendent search

004and the long-range facility planning obviously tonight's a little bit of a bigger night here with the budget here an annual meeting but I want to keep the conversation moving forward in a couple areas here so I have brought in um a guest speaker here tonight um Mike navac our physical education teacher and uh head football coach here so um we shared some information with the board I think it was in February or January but I know Carolyn and Dale uh you guys were not a part of the board yet at that time so there was some information as we think about what is in our long-range facility plan we're just going to talk about a few of the things here and and uh Mr knebok here knows it better than anyone because those are the

005spaces he teaches in he coaches in and he has Hands-On with a lot of our kids here so Mike do you want to come join us and I will give you that clicker and I'm going to stop talking and let you roll with it here thank you all right so I guess as we get into this I I'm asking uh for for our students to to strongly consider you know upgrades to our our fitness center uh We've and as I go through it you'll see that we've we've kind of we've not kind of we've totally outgrown our space and uh we we need more space uh at MHS because I'll say this later I'll probably say it multiple times but in my opinion it is the most utilized building in our entire District uh is

006our fitness center going from grades you know three four all the way through 12th grade being used pretty much year round so um which one what do I click here oh sorry is it just the trigger underneath yeah no no so I got it that's right got it right so during this past school year we had 502 students enrolled just in physical education classes that utilize the fitness center and as you can see there there are 344 in our athletic enhancement so about 240 males and 102 females 83 in beginning weights and 75 and plf and personal life Fitness so all those classes those four four classes well three classes now they utilize the the fitness center exclusively uh this past year we added an i-60 students from taking the course just because we are

007not able to expand our rosters greater than like in some classes I've taken mine up to 40 in one of my sections I had 42 students this year it was feasible it was doable but when I get when we have multiple athletic enhancement classes running at the same time and a beginning weights class we have to cap the total number at about 80. so that takes it down to where we're at about it's about 25 25 and 25. so with a larger facility we're able to accommodate I could go up to 40 the other teachers could go up to 40 and we could have another teacher probably go uh depending on the size of it now currently we have 5 000 square feet um I think 20 000 square feet is suitable if you look

008at some of the other districts around the state of Wisconsin that have just renovated their their fitness centers they're at about 20 000 square feet Bayport High School just put in it's state of the art it is probably the best in Wisconsin Kimberly has 20 000 square feet they redid theirs about five years ago um uh no there's a community that that the indoor as well just west of of Fond du Lac uh Plymouth uh they just redid theirs as well and and there's this 15 000 square feet so I think you know that twenty thousand square foot number is it would be suitable and we're able to then accommodate 100 to 100 Studio 20 students at a time so this school year I don't have the exact number um but from what I've been

009told we just denied another student today entry into the class the guidance counselors and they they have to ask me I'm like sorry we're capped on these specific hours these specific blocks so um from what I know I don't know this is not this is not verified by our guidance but I think it's about it's about 120 students have been denied entry into our athletic enhancement beginning weights or plf classes because we don't have room so next year we have 675 students scheduled in the course so 502 up to 675 and last year we had 102 females this year we're at 175 females that are going to be taking the class which is pretty pretty cool and I'm I'm proud of that because my first year uh we had three female students in the class

010uh and now we're up to 175 five years later so the and that's kind of the trends in physical education right now too uh throughout the nation is more and more students now are taking you know these these Lifetime Fitness classes where they're exposed to you know cardio Health as well as weights and less and less students are taking your traditional PE classes where you know playing basketball or football or softball or ping pong or badminton uh less and less students are taking that not only at MHS but it's Nationwide it's kind of a trend so again a larger facility would allow us to accommodate more students as we as we continue to grow our program my first year there was one full-time instructor in the weight room and I was 0.3 so I was

011for U.S history and two Advanced weights or athletic enhancement it's essentially the same course my second year I went there was still just one full time and then I went up to 0.6 and then I was teaching four and two well my third year I've been all full time and there's two of us I was full-time and uh Mr Justin last was full time um now it's uh myself so this coming year I'm full time uh Justin lass is full time gmsman is teaching two periods and Jen skemp is now teaching it as well so more and more fayad teachers are now transforming in in going into the weight room because our numbers have grown so significantly over the past five years so our after school programs this year we're going to continue to expand

012it so in the past we had our middle school kids our fourth through eighth graders come in December January and February well this year we're expanding that to March April and may as well so we are going to run a sixth full month program on Tuesdays and Thursdays after school for our fourth through 8th graders so the way we have it is 7th and 8th graders are three to four and fourth and six are four to five after school we also have open weights for students that are not allowed to get into the class or students that simply cannot fit it into their schedule so between the students utilizing our fitness center after school and the fourth through eighth grade kids coming in it is a zoo uh it's it's well organized and we have

013certain areas designated to who can use what at what times but we're at the the point now where we've totally outgrown the facility uh I've we've had as many as 177 students in our 5 000 square foot fitness center after school at times and yeah it's it's very very congested and uh you know at that point it almost becomes we really have to look out for for safety at that point when because you have little kids in there and then you have high school kids in there and in a larger facility would definitely be much more helpful so our summer school program uh Indian athletic perform performance we're also utilizing the fitness center and we're doing that for six weeks in June in July and we roll seven to noon every single day in this

014past summer we had over 570 students in the class so uh it's it's pretty neat we have uh this year we had 14 individuals that were working uh from seven to noon with with our various students and various age groupings both inside and outside teaching them how to move their bodies and teaching them how to run properly and again half of that course is designed for weight room implementation so we have to strategically fully plan because we have 14 teachers who were able to do it but I think it would be easier obviously with a larger facility so here's just this these are some pictures of of what it would look like in the winter this past winter so these are our fourth through eighth grade students and you know we just have them this

015is just a Turkish get up there that they're using really light weights and they're basically using every muscle in their entire body as they go through this and you can see them scattered throughout the floor in the fitness center and some are in the back corners and some are between racks and there's not a ton of empty space but I would say that this is still safe we have enough people in there and enough supervision but it is pretty congested area you can't walk around too easily while they're while they're performing this exercise and that's just a panoramic shot it's kind of fuzzy but that's from one end of the fitness center to the next one um two other ones where one's the would be the the west side of the weight room the other

016one's the East Side uh for specific band work that we're doing um this is I'm just implementing some some basic barbell lifts and having them all crowd around here we got about 85 kids that are crowded around me watching as I just demonstrate how to lift properly so uh that's that first picture yeah so Community edit as well uh our weight our fitness center is utilized by outside groups in the PMS also um and you know a larger facility would help I've seen them in there at times when when I'm finishing up with our with our Middle School wage sessions and and then I usually go and work the wrestling collect during a wrestling meets so I see people in there as well and it's it's those groups are that they they're more on the

017move and they're not able to use the gym at that time in a larger facility would it better accommodate our our outside Community groups as well so um the reason why our class sizes could be bigger we won't have to turn away students from PE classes uh as I said more and more um PE courses in in the the trend Nationwide as they're going to more Lifetime Fitness rather than your traditional PE classes and um yeah like I said I I believe I don't know I could be be wrong here but I don't know of a more utilized room in the entire District than our our fitness center so does anybody have any questions oh yeah awesome [Laughter] all right um first question what those other districts that you uh mentioned do you know what

018the size comparison how are they bigger smaller same size as us Kimberly is almost identical in enrollment wise uh there I would I before I came here I was in Fond du Lac and you know I had a a short list if I was given the opportunity to move elsewhere and um and Mukwonago was was on that short list uh because I'm familiar with Waukesha County and and grew up here and um so demographics wise enrollment wise everything it's almost identical so Kimberly's enrollment is almost the identical to ours it's within 50 students um Bayport is a little bit bigger than ours Bayport high school they're the Howard Suamico School District so the the geography they they hit quite a big area they hit parts of Green Bay as well as Howard and Suamico communities

019uh they're sitting at about 2 000 students and then Plymouth Plymouth is sitting at about a 750 students at the high school level right High School enrollment correct yeah they're high school enrollments what's what's our High School uh between 16 and 1700 we're about 16.50 yeah I'm sorry um have you talked to those people and to find out if that is suitable or are they are they in the same boat that we are where it's it's already too small no I I I know for well with Kimberly's their fitness center is connected directly it it they walk out into their indoor facility so it's really easy for them because they're they're right now they have three teachers in there at once they're rolling class of 120 and what they'll do is they'll have certain groups

020out on the turf doing various things with with weights whether it's Farmers walks or whatever and then they have 80 80 students in the facility in that 20 000 square feet and they're able to do it no problem I think that the way we run ours we could we could easily accommodate 100 students just within a 20 000 square foot facility um the the the the guy I guess in my role at Bayport High School is a good friend of mine and he he just keeps saying he's like Mike you got to get one of these uh and I was like yeah I'd love to have that theirs in my opinion is probably like the creme de la cram in Wisconsin that is the finest facility in the state of Wisconsin and uh there are

021numer that they're they're getting people going through their um for sure monthly if not he's like I gotta lead another tour I gotta lead another tour um and they theirs is suitable uh for sure I don't know anything about Plymouth other than the size I I don't have any connections to Plymouth High School uh do you know when the current one was built ours yes it was renovated in 14 yeah so what they did this is kind of this is somewhat ironic I outside yeah so when I went to Fond du Lac High School in 2012. I designed the fitness center there essentially it's the exact same size of what we have so I designed the whole thing in 2012. I was friends with people at Mukwonago when they went about redoing theirs in 2014

022so they actually used our fitness center in Fond du Lac as kind of a template use the same representative so they bought all the same equipment everything it was the same so it was kind of funny how they went through that and and they said any they showed me what they had and they said any suggestions on this I said yeah you're not going to have enough space and they asked why I said because you guys have things that plug in 5 000 square feet in Fond du Lac was okay because we didn't have anything that plugged in any treadmills elliptical machines uh anything like that we had all racks so ours not only so ours was essentially a weight room if you are going to include cardio equipment it takes up a ton of

023space you have to have extra space and you know you know it's uh he said well we we kind of have to have because of I think was there grant money involved at that time that's diverts you know I I don't know but I thought they said because of the grant they had to have cardio equipment now that was the uh the Carol white it was like a Carol white Federal grant for some physical education related uh Nancy Mobridge ran that and that was before but that was before I came so I I can't speak to it okay so that's that's what I was told I because they they showed me the plan I said you're not gonna have enough space and that's exactly where we're at right now seven years later all right um

024what what do the younger kids do there that's fourth through eighth grade yeah it's it's all movement uh so we do use kettlebells but I never put them under a bar so the the fourth through eighth graders we use kettlebells and all I do is develop proper movement patterns so the move movement patterns I'm referring to are squat a hip hinge a lunge and then any kind of vertical or horizontal pressing and vertical or horizontal pushing so we do a ton of push-ups we do a ton of just like static hangs on a pull-up bar some assisted pull-ups we do goblet squats with the Kettlebell we'll do some lunging with the Kettlebell we do Turkish get-ups with the Kettlebell but I do not put them under a bar until they are freshmen never are they

025coming because you're there or are or is it possible to do the same thing at at the middle school I think it's definitely possible uh to do that the reason I ask is because we're also talking about building a new Middle School right so is it does it make sense for us to do something we'll we'll the pressure be relieved if we include something in that after school I think the pressure would be relieved but during the school day it would not be relieved I don't think that solves our problems of us turning away over 100 students to the weights classes because you know we don't have the facilities to do that right now but after school I think it would but then you'd have to talk about also well unless you offered it after

026school at the middle school you know that that that's a possibility but if you were to offer something like that during the day you know it'd be revamping the does it make sense for us to include something like this in the Middle School now when I was in in Fond du Lac we did renovate the two middle schools um two of the three middle schools we renovated it and just basically put in um would be they're called rigs where they have bars for pull-ups and then you can hang multi-trainers from them like TRX um they're called DRX traps and they we just put in kettlebells as well and they they had one unit throughout the school year where they they implemented it but again those facilities were too small to really do more with it

027than that so you know I I don't I I kind of look at MHS as the Hub I I think it makes the most sense and and all our students are going to to to to utilize MHS at some point I think it me personally I think it makes more sense to put the money into MHS oh I'm not saying yeah either or I'm saying both yeah whatever the reason I ask you is because seven years is irritating to do something right seven years later do it again right so we're going to build a middle school I would since we're here talking about it and I know that we're talking about the high school gym and all that but I got you here yep so right I'm curious does it make sense for us to

028put something there as well as do this because I just don't have this problem I don't want somebody to be looking at what we did and then in seven years or ten years ago and they would have just done it right the first time right so it sounds like it makes sense I think that's ultimately that that very point is why this is on the agenda tonight because as we've moved forward and we make our priorities of getting things right if you make that investment just make sure that investment is done correct here and I want to make sure that we hear from the the gentleman who runs it the the teacher who runs that uh 12 months a year for various age groups so I thought this was a good time to do that

029do we have the space kind of near where it is now to expand out no I we we do because that would butt into the the north gymnasium which has utilized you know for for basketball and wrestling meets so we don't have space would be to the South to the north that goes into our Commons yeah the north of that um the the options would be either to extend off where the athletic foyer is in the varsity locker room so you know that would be on the the South like west side of or by the West gym that area or I know also maybe repurposing the South gym if an indoor facility were to be to be built you could repurpose the South gym into a fitness center as well additional Staffing we can build

030a facility that's that big can we offer more classes if I mean obviously if there's 120 students that were turning away this year yeah so what what we're doing so we'll always have like a master teacher in the class so um if it's not myself it would be Mr last who's done this forever and you know I've I've also trained him and my I have a master's in Health and Human Performance so that's that's kind of my expertise so this year one of the classes I have um Jen Scamp with me who has done plf um but she'll be with me so I will instruct everything and but she will never lead a class like on her own so um and then I think you know once the next PE teacher retires which I think

031is in the next year or two it's going to be really important to hire somebody with a Kinesiology background because the trend that we have Kinesiology and PE the trend we're having is more and more students are taking those types of fire classes rather than your traditional PE classes but as of right now we do not need more Staffing we just because we can we can grow our I'm okay with taking 45 students in one class and if another teacher is in there at the same time with 45 students that's 90. right now we're capped at like 30 unless nobody else is in there then I I can go higher okay yes twenty thousand feet if we're going to be enough just to get you by or is that like built for the future it's

032built for the future as long as we don't have things that plug in so if if you're talking if you want treadmills and ellipticals in there you're going to have to build in even more space um what all our our classes that we teach with the exception of personal life Fitness we never use any of the cardio equipment um I'm in there probably more than any other person in the district and faculty uses the treadmills in elliptical machines more than anybody else more than students more than anybody else so is there a need for them I don't think that there is if we had a small space for them if people want to utilize them right no do we get to go in I was just curious we have to cancel my Y membership yeah

033because we're looking like my ideal plan would have 40 double racks uh which is you know 20 and 20 and there's a rack on each side so that's 80 students that have their own rack if there we go right now we're going four or five to Iraq which is not really it's not efficient if if if we went three to Iraq you know that's 120 kids no problem four-door X even doable now we're at 160 kids so I I that's for the future as well whereas right now we have nine racks nine doubles I think 40. uh planning for the future yeah could we keep the same room that we have set up with the ellipticals and the treadmills because staff like it and the community members probably use that and then the new facility

034would just be new see that's what my Hope was all along was to be able to keep both of them uh Kimberly high school has two weight rooms um where they're running simultaneous classes throughout the the day so basically what's happened is in this and everybody was okay with this so it's not like uh it's not a discrimination thing but the girls are in one all day and then the guys are in another all day and they have hired a female strength coach that runs all their girls classes whereas we have girls classes too but I I and I don't want to I really like working with our females but they have two separate facilities they have the new one for the guys and Kimberly has their which they revamped and they put all new

035equipment in the girls one the one that existed and that's about ten thousand square feet know my daughter took your class and she was really stoked she was beating the dudes so good yeah I I was one of the girls in high school that did it and I'd always welcome for all of them so that's why okay um thanks for the information no action right Tom this is we're just talking and kind of as we move forward in September let's take this information and and give it some consideration this is my hope all right I'm glad you came in because I've seen this on the agenda and like in the plans and I thought we should have somebody come in so thank you for inviting thank you for having me nice job Friday yeah nice

036job on Friday coach good luck on I did send you all an email thank you I really do appreciate you know the the raise the stipend thank you very much yeah much appreciated good luck coach thank you thank you okay Tom South gym utilization allergy rates yes so I'm bringing to you uh to consider here and I'm going to bring it up on the screen right now um our South gym so we're kind of still staying on the same topic of our athletic spaces and how they are uh how they're stressed out they're they're used quite a bit here and I think as we compare what other school districts charge for rates here um we I think we're leaving something on the table here so um we have five categories of groups that we that

037use our spaces here okay so groups one and two are really like school-based kids you know if Section Elementary is going to go use the South gym well we're clearly not charging section elementary kids that use that space so groups one and two we don't charge them anything but when we get to groups three four and five group three is basically like a figure Mukwonago uh Braves your Mukwonago tribe your hometown teams that are filled with mukwango Area School District kids but not directly attached to the district by any way by any means here um currently if you take a look on the screen right now I'm comparing our district to what other districts are charging here in Zach Ortiz uh helped put this together so thank you for that sack and feel free to

038chime in if there's anything you you think is helpful here but if you take a look at what the hourly rate is that we charge group three in group four Community groups we aren't charging anything to our group three groups um you know personally as somebody who spends a lot of time around Youth Sports here and and whatnot I know some of the groups that I work with will go to oaw in New Berlin and spend 300 an hour for a number of kids to use that space and then they can come here and get almost a very comparable space for free and I just wonder out loud I think we're leaving something on the table as a district there so I understand it's a fine line that you don't want to charge you know

039your hometown people but I think that if you're giving it away for free you should at least reconsider that so I hope that's what the conversation here is right now so I mean if you take a look at what some of the other groups are charging there um even you know like 10 15 33 some districts are up to 75 or 100 an hour to use their gyms now I'm not proposing that we go that high but I am proposing that we we take a look at a couple of fees that we're charging right now so I'm going to scroll down down here to our actual real quickly here I'm going to scroll down so this is our fee schedule that you're seeing on this screen right here so I'm suggesting right now that we

040take a look so for groups three in group four if we look at our K8 gymnasium or multi-purpose room we are charging zero dollars an hour to group three and ten dollars an hour to group four and if we look down underneath the high school gymnasiums we again zero dollars an hour for group three ten for group four uh zero dollars an hour for the tournament slash competitions when you know the for recreation use at the high school so if somebody's using the South gym for recreation they'll have just their team their 12 or their 20 kids in there um having a practice in December January February you know during the indoor uh season um the tournament slash competition that would be if people are selling a gate they have a big tournament there's lots

041of communities that are traveling to maybe use the West gym for basketball tournament or a youth wrestling tournament um I'm I'm proposing that we if you take a look at the bottom of my memo so I'll scroll back up from here so I'm I'm proposing that we consider moving these rates here for group three as I have noted there so the charge ten dollars an hour for a khmnesium if you're a group three and increasing the fee from ten to twenty dollars an hour for group four if we take a look at the high school gymnasium for recreation use charging twenty dollars an hour to group three and thirty to group four I think if you compare those rates to what the other districts are doing we're right in line it's nothing outrageous I mean

042there ultimately is a cost as you look at the wear and tear of the turf that's in the South gym um the bathroom gets utilized the toilet paper all those things all those things are used uh quite extensively here and then lastly then I just have for like tournaments and competitions then for a 20 an hour fee for group three and fifty dollars for group four so you don't need to take any action tonight if you don't want to I I get we're just talking about it here but if you want to you could take this to the board meeting at eight o'clock and make a recommendation or maybe you just want to let this marinate on the brain for a little bit and and have further discussion perhaps that's completely up to you as

043we looked at the numbers here for um during the 21-22 school year if we were to charge those rates to groups three and group four as I have proposed we would generate an extra fifty thousand dollars in revenue for the district I do think that's fair as somebody who utilizes those a lot myself you know as a community member and and whatnot I I think that's totally reasonable I think that's fair to get it for free is like wow this is awesome but they're getting 300 an hour down the road and we're getting zero so um I I do think it's the right thing I think it's fair how did you set those numbers so those I think were set by Andy's predecessor Kurt Weeble house so uh Kurt did that um and I think

044it's just a matter of you know at that time that's what seemed new numbers that you're so I just I took a look at what Carolyn I took a look at what these other districts are charging per hour for their gyms just to kind of see who's doing what how much are they charging I wouldn't want to charge somebody locally you know 100 an hour for their youth whatever basketball team to use the space but I think 20 is reasonable I do so I just think it's in line with what the other Waukesha County school districts are doing so maybe bumper a little bit that's what I was thinking I was I just was wondering why you put the parents and these youth groups have it yeah I mean I'm just saying that yeah I

045kind of look at it and it's like I mean I'm not I don't want to be at the High end at the scale but I also don't want to I'm in the same boat with you I don't want to be on the low end of the scale um middle middle ground middle to higher because we have a better environment here I'm always okay with and the reality is what we can generate from there I know that we're dying for space here like we're talking about building a new gym or I mean there's there's all kinds of demand for more of this stuff when Junior was in saw it was in baseball they were they were dying to find a new place so I have a summary here on this at the same memo here towards

046the bottom there so there's a number of uh Community groups there Mukwonago tribe the Croatian Eagle soccer Legacy baseball Mukwonago lady Legends Etc you can see uh the number of hours they've requested per a week in that second column the actual hours they received in the third and then off to the far right to the fourth column is the deficit so Community groups were looking for 77 hours a week and I'm and I'm I know this amount has grown uh this is last year's demand there's a huge deficit we we simply can't accommodate what groups are looking for what our community is looking for if we were to get more space in an indoor facility it would be booked from open to close every day um I have no uh that that's I think a

047given in my mind that that number that that would go way higher if people knew it was available I would agree are they're always trying to figure other stuff out and we're traveling down in well into Waukesha for practice and winter where we've all loved to stay here yeah there was a facility so so do you guys want me to just reconsider the rates and we'll bring it back in September there um groups will start to make their and Zach correct me if I'm wrong Zach groups will start to make their their winter ask what they're looking for they'll make their request here in October and then in November uh Andy trudell and Zach will work to accommodate as many groups as they can is that the timeline request and in the middle of December

048so if we were to make a change here we could settle this at the September meeting and then communicate to those groups at that time so they they understand I think the goal should be in my opinion the goal should be to make the rates to where nobody says that's ridiculous but everybody looks at it and goes that's fair Sherry that high as high as that is are they in the depth because there's not room for a week I'm sorry Sherry can you say that again yep for the for yep correct yep that's correct I six at least I don't know I could bring that back math that math back I'm not good at math on the Fly here you put me right on the point and I don't have my calculator so I apologize

049for that but I just count the number of weeks that would run It ultimately goes from November December January February and March once April comes then the weather if it's not too wet and rainy they'll start getting outside perhaps in April I'm just trying to point out the fact how much money it is even at ten dollars so that that is just the South gym then you also have a North gym and a West gym so that's just that's a snapshot of all the gym space and furthermore I mean Parkview Middle School gets used indoors uh I've been in Big Bend Elementary Section Elementary in Prairie View with baseball players just throwing the baseball in January because you're just trying to find one space where you can teach Johnny how to how to throw and

050catch Jerry that's for all those teams though not just one team so it's not 777 dollars for a team it's 77 now it's 120 for that team yeah 150 for that team 100 for that team so okay um I'll come back with more and we'll go in September so here we go uh we got five minutes yeah we can do it all right robotic space options okay so I'm just looking for your input here uh Dustin Layman approached uh me and Sean and Andy I believe here uh on an email here recently um as you know we're looking for space for our robotics team they came by in March and they demonstrated what they can do and that's pretty amazing stuff there currently they're housed in room 308 in Mukwonago high school but they need

051to move out of there uh to make room for the new art teacher who's coming in there so they're they're going to temporarily rent a 40-foot storage pod to put their stuff in there and that's going to last until December Dustin's aware of 4 500 square feet that's going to become available at the IDC facility um I'll bring up the map here very quickly um and he's asking is the board interested in having a conversation if we were to uh would you be partners with the robotics team so there you can see it on the map there it's it's near the industrial park there off of Holtz Parkway not too far from where we are right now are you would you entertain a conversation next month with with Dustin if he came in uh with

052the robotics staff and and they made a pitch I guess the question is would you entertain that conversation right right now they have they would anticipate the cost of that square foot um that square footage opening up to be 550 and 650 per square foot so the annual cost then if it was at 550 or 650 would be about 25 to 30 000 now those students do a lot of fundraising they raise thousands and thousands to travel and to do their thing around the country here um they know that they would be expected to pay a part of this cost here but they're wondering what the school district and the school board entertain the conversation there about renting additional space that would help them out I would I would as well um if we give

053a bunch of money to football we damn sure should be considering giving a bunch of money football you don't give nothing to football really how many kids are involved in robotics I'd like to know that for sure you know number of number of kids I think it's a great idea but I'm not a finance committee so yeah um we talked earlier about the uh the space for weights and how many kids we turn away could we get as especially as we're looking forward to this Five-Year Plan um how many kids do we turn away from Auto from whether it's you know especially due to space so it's welding well the welding trades right so kind of all those collectively so that as we go forward with that decision that we have a better idea will

054do okay um so yes I think we're interested in hearing more okay we'll do in St James lease so this is just an update here as you know we were working extremely fast to identify a space that could house our soar program and really like a 30-day window and this is just an update here so um we arranged for a lease with St James they're taking that lease right now to the there's a five-member proxy Council that will ultimately okay that lease so the people at St James are cool with it the Archdiocese of Milwaukee has final say uh we anticipate that's going to come back with no problems um but we had to just make a decision and go quickly so the proxy uh those five members in the Archdiocese could vote on something

055so we had to move quickly uh Andy Wagner and I uh I should say Andy looked at comparable spaces around town there's almost none that meet zoning requirements for us to actually take take up that space we ultimately agreed on the Eight dollar eight dollars per square foot for 10 months the approximate cost then is forty thousand dollars to house our soar facility our sort programming at St James so we had to work quickly we were literally working down to the last 30 minutes before Deacon Rob had to leave town for a couple days so we had to work quickly this is a one-year temporary solution um we'll continue to work to identify this as another another need for our facility planning so that's just an update that's all I have unless you want me

056to keep talking Sean I can go no foreign should we adjourn here real quick motion to adjourn second all in favor all right okay foreign haha hurts we need to correct don't listen hello from the mcgonago area school board hello I have a great school year hello hey Google hello I do tell hot lady hello bye everybody and so Diego and Madeleine I'll have them introduce themselves to you guys and then maybe we can go around the horn and introduce yourselves as well so Madeline do you want to start you can speak in the um if you push the button okay um my name is Madeline Wilhelm um I'm a senior this year at MHS and so this is gonna be a really fun experience hi I'm Diego Jaramillo I'm also a senior uh I'm

057involved in some of the clubs at MHS I'm excited to be here you guys I'm art Schneider I'm a senior [Laughter] Christian Vito Schwartz I'm a super senior Joe fergs Craig verts welcome to the board Dale Porter welcome hi Carol and Simon hi Cherry winchoki we've met I'm Erica Connor glad to have you guys here right so I got a chance to meet with these guys earlier today we had a good meeting talked about what the procedure would be for tonight and so Erica if you're ready we're ready to get going with the budget hearing but do I call to order for the budget hearing or just annual at 7 30. she called to order at the annual meeting we could just hop into this hearing right now and I am going to turn over

058this budget hearing to Tom cartelser okay it's 707 Sean Aiden's of my time there almost a third of it Sean is your last one of these buds so it's gonna go short though so I'll go a little bit quicker here board you've heard this here but I want to make sure that the community can hear the budget that we're presenting here tonight here so uh we're beginning the budget hearing right now so we're going to talk about our proposed tax levy and our proposed budget at the annual meeting then we'll take votes on the tax levies we'll take votes on school board members salaries for the upcoming school year and we'll look for the authorization on a couple different things there and we'll take care of those action items at the annual meeting but I'm

059going to try to set the table with that information right now we have budget booklets that are there as you walked in uh board members you have one that's uh within with you in front of you right now on page 18 of that document that budget booklet I have a lot of the highlights I'll be talking about there so feel free to look at that and look at the main takeaways of how this budget is built and what are the details in it here okay we have 11 funds and you can kind of think of these funds as their own separate bank accounts here uh we track all of our expenses here um through each of these funds here we're really going to focus on funds 10 and 27 here fun 10 is our general

060education fund or the general fund and fund 27 is our special education fund and between those two funds those are where we spend money and make investments to help our students learn and that's job number one so we're going to give a lot of attention to that here just a couple minutes we'll talk briefly about these other funds here and I'll hop into the information right now we've been building this budget since January of 2022 in July the school board gave me permission to take this budget that you're hearing about tonight and to present it here at this meeting to the community we published this Budget on August 18 11th and the 18th in the Waukesha Freeman as required by law and here we are tonight on the 22nd going through our budget hearing everything

061we talk about here is preliminary the final budget will be adopted in October when we get our final Equalization Aid in Revenue limits calculated and then we'll adopt the final budget and certify a tax levy in October so what we're talking about here again is preliminary but there's not too much that's going to change between now and October so tonight's presentation I'll talk about how our district receives Revenue we're going to focus on state aid or Equalization Aid and property taxes those two sources combined represent 85 percent of all of our dollars so as those numbers go up or down we have to build a budget that can live within its means once we determine how much money we're going to receive then we'll talk about how we are going to invest those dollars within

062our budget okay so Revenue limits here we're going to talk about this here real briefly here state aid when combined with our property tax revenue has to stay at or under a revenue limit okay we are limited the school board is has a restriction has a limit on how much property tax revenue you can collect in Levy as a school board so when you add state aid and property taxes it must be at or underneath your Revenue limits so step one we're going to find out how we're going to calculate state aid and figure out how we get that number from the state step two then we'll jump to the bottom and figure out what is our Revenue limit how much money can we ultimately work with and then we can go to step three

063and back into our property tax revenue so let's start with step one here our Equalization eight this past school year we had just over 55 million dollars in shared costs those are costs that state government will help pay for ultimately we pay those costs in 2122 and then they reimburse Us in 22.23 so 55 million dollars of cost last year will lead to 26.6 million dollars of Equalization Aid this year on a per student base that's 11 346 dollars of shared cost per pupil okay that eleven thousand three hundred forty six is going to get divided into three tiers okay the first tier for a thousand dollars is our primary tier the next ten thousand and five dollars is our secondary tier and then finally that top tier of three hundred forty one dollars is

064a tertiary tier we get fifty six percent of that first thousand dollars that we spend back one year later so we we spent a thousand dollars last year per student and then we get 560 dollars back from state government and they periodically send us that money throughout the year at the secondary tier we get fifty percent of those costs back one year later and that third tier that tertiary tier is negative 12 percent those percentages those three percentages are based upon our district property values okay compared in a Statewide basis at that tertiary tier if you are negatively aided it's because you are considered property Rich relative to the state average okay some districts are positively aided at that tertiary tier which they would be regarded as a property poor District when you look at

065the entire tax base and the number of kids they have to serve so if we quickly go through this math here then at that primary tier we have one thousand dollars in cost per student we get 56 percent of those costs back and multiply by the four thousand eight hundred fifty five students we have for this purpose that generates 2.7 million at that secondary tier we generate 24 million dollars and at that tertiary tier because we're negatively tertiary aided we give back two hundred thousand dollars so it's important to an extent that we don't spend way too much money because that negative tertiary can kick in ultimately though when you add up all three that's your 26.6 million dollars in aid from the state okay so again 55 million in shared costs last year equals

06626.6 million dollars in Aid this year state government throws in two other forms of Aid that aren't very materially big but it adds up to 26.7 million total of State support So step one we have that 26.7 million dollars in state support let's go to the last step there so we're going to go to the revenue limit all right how much money can we collect in total we take a three-year average of our full-time equivalent students on the third Friday in September we count our students we take a three year average we multiply that by our masd per member Revenue limit amount and then we added which is really low so we're going to talk about that here on the next slides here so in 93 94 when Revenue limits were first instituted districts had

067three years lead time to figure out how much money do you need to educate your students fifty three hundred dollars was the least allow uh the least uh amount you could collect on a per student basis so mukwango as you can see at that time uh chose a very low and conservative number other districts are well in excess of two thousand dollars on a per student basis fast forward 30 years later still about still at the bottom of the County uh at ten thousand and sixteen dollars ultimately at the very bottom out of 422 districts in the state so when we build our budget when we calculate our Revenue limit our Revenue limit is really low okay so we have tenth out we have for this purpose we have 4 678 full-time equivalent students on

068a third a three year average multiply by our ten thousand sixteen students excuse me ten thousand sixteen dollars that equals forty six million eight hundred and fifty four thousand dollars we have a few adjustments that we add into this okay and ultimately our Revenue limit is 48 million dollars so when we calculate that Revenue limits 48 million seventy five thousand dollars we can then back into our property tax amount which will be 21 million three hundred forty nine thousand dollars that is your tax leving Authority for fund 10 38 and 41. okay 56 of this calculation comes from the state 44 comes from our taxpayers we'll take the state aid and directly to put that money into fund 10 for the remaining amount here this 21.3 million in tax revenue the school board has the

069decision to either by default put in fund 10 if the school board takes on any debt outside of a referendum you can do that but you have to put that money you need to pay off that debt in fund 38 which there is no debt here in the district for fund 38. fund 41 is a way to proactively take a part of that ten thousand and sixteen dollars per student and put that money at the beginning of the school year aside to maintain your walls and your roofs and take care of your buildings in tonight's budget we've ultimately uh agreed on at the school board level to put eight hundred thousand dollars of that amount into fund 41 no dollars needed for fund 38 and the remaining amount in fund 10. that there is governed

070by Revenue limits that's the restriction on how much tax levy and Authority the school board has there are two more tax levy amounts one is to pay back our referendum debt for the project at Mukwonago High School in 2016. that is ultimately governed with permission from District residents through the referendum process so that was successfully past six years ago this Levy ultimately calls for 9.5 million to get levied into fund 39 to pay off that debt and another hundred fifty thousand dollars in community service fund to pay for two school resource officers and a small Community Education Program the total tax levy is 31 million thirty six thousand and twenty two dollars that represents a 0.2 percent decrease from the prior year and a mill rate of 7.26 our long-term strategy here for tax levying

071is that we plan to drop our Levy year after year here by at least 0.2 percent uh we are entering here year three so this isn't official yet here but we're entering year three of our strategy the mill rate last year's mill rate we were at 7.57 okay one of the lowest in the county and pretty low Statewide as well all right this year we're going to go to 7.26 which is a four percent drop if you look at the 30 years of Revenue limit uh Mill rates here 723 was the lowest amount of a mill rate and will be at 726 so this is the second lowest mill rate in our District's history since 93. all right so that's the tax levy now we're going to move into the budget how are we going

072to spend those dollars so we have these three we're gonna go fund by fund here pretty briefly here I'm going to highlight these three funds quickly donation funds we get a certain number of dollars each year from uh various people in the community we spend those dollars according to their wishes we typically get about 115 000 per year and we spend those dollars as they as they instruct us to so that's our donation fund Student Activity fund that would represent our our student athletes or our Student Activity groups like robotics or like the football team when they sell their gold cards or do their fundraising they deposit those funds in uh segregated accounts that's there just for their use and that's about three quarters of a million dollars in and out each year finally we

073have fund 72 our scholarship trust fund we get about 20 000 donations for scholarships and again we donate uh give those scholarships um to students who deserve them and who have earned them so I'm going to move on to the remaining eight funds here quickly here so I can be done by 7 30. all right so here we go fun 10. these These are seven sources of revenue we've just talked about Equalization Aid which we get from the state and taxes which we get from our residents okay the other five revenues we get five million dollars in open enrollment tuition that's a really important source of revenue for a low Revenue District like ours um we need those those dollars so we we have a lot of open enroll in students who want to attend

074our schools and we take what we can get there we get seven 742 dollars a per pupil categorical AIDS so in addition to that ten thousand and sixteen dollar number we get for Revenue limits in addition to that we get 742 dollars per pupil all all public school district students in the state get it that total is 3.4 million dollars student fees from uh masd families so that think athletic fees registration fees any type of a student fee that's involved there generate 650 000 and we have a couple of other types of State support there for our libraries or Transportation aid but those seven sources right there that's that is the budget that's 98 of all of our dollars so those are those are our notable revenues for fun 10. if you take a look

075fund 10 and 27 they're kind of one two pots of money but they represent ultimately again where we educate our students 55 of all of our funds come from the state 35 come from our taxpayers locally we get a uh our open enrollment revenue is again a very important slice of our of our Revenue picture here and we get a small piece from the federal government mostly for teaching our special ed students so that's our operating revenues there total is about 58 million dollars for our expenditures you're going to see in the budget that I have here that fund 10 appears to have a deficit of 965 000 I'd like to note that we have 992 000 of one-time costs that the board is aware of and we just talked about it at our finance

076meeting that's going to be funded from surplus funds that we left behind from last year if we exclude those one-time costs we have a balanced budget and I think that's important and I want the community to know that we were able to accomplish our goals and still build a balanced budget as we head into the next uh to the current school year okay our general fund expenditures are budgeted to decrease overall by 176 000 if we compare it to last year's budget expenditures again being uh being fiscally responsible is what we're trying to do and we contain costs whenever possible overall our fund 10 and 27 costs to teach our students between salaries which is in the blue and benefits which is in the orange that's 75 of our budget we don't invest heavily in

077like other Industries perhaps in research and development or Capital materials we are our schools are driven by our teachers and we need great teachers to do the jobs that we have in front of us here so we invest 75 of our budget into salaries and benefits which is in that 70 to 75 percent range that school districts so try should strive to be in purchase Services there that gray bar slice there is 18 purchase Services could be 3 million for Transportation uh five hundred thousand dollars for substitute teachers our utilities our gas our electric those are all services we purchase from various entities so we have a sizable amount of our expenditures there our non-capital objects represents 2.5 million dollars that's anything we buy that has a a price tag of less than five thousand

078dollars Capital objects there are is one mil just over a million dollars and that represents anything we purchase that's more than five thousand dollars at the individual level we have one percent of our budget dedicated towards liability insurance and that's our distribution of operational expenses so as we walk through our remaining funds then if you take on in your budget booklet on page 29 our special education fund has expenditures budgeted to 10.6 million dollars so we're increasing our investment by 300 000 over what we actually spent this past year fund 27 gets about 3.5 million dollar in special ed funding support either from the federal government or the state when you have 10.6 million dollars of expenses but only three and a half million or so dollars of support then fund 10 needs to pick

079up the remaining tab so we make a year-end transfer such that fund 27 always ends at zero at the end of the year Okay so anytime that we can get more special education funding or support it would be welcomed it would be relief onto fun 10. fund 39 is our referendum debt you can find details of the budget on page 30 in our debt schedules on page 42. during calendar year 2023 when we make a levy this October we need to Levy enough to pay for our 2023 debts and that would total 3.1 million dollars the budget here we are going to be able to Levy up to 9.5 million and still drop our property taxes for our citizens and we'll use that additional Levy to prepay two additional years of debt next spring and

080will save over half a million dollars in future interest costs and doing that between the last two years of doing this we've shaved off over a million dollars just by prepaying debt and giving ourselves the opportunity to be out of debt more quickly that will require School Board action but that is the game plan at this time 141 again this is the fun where we can take part of that ten thousand dollars per pupil at the beginning of the year and proactively set it aside we're ultimately going to put aside eight hundred thousand dollars in this budget we do have some years we put more in uh and take less out some years we put some in but have to take a little bit more out we have 1.4 million dollars of expenditures scheduled to

081come out of fund 41. 650 000 of that is annual operating costs to to keep our our buildings working as they must and then we also have a one-time project to repave the parking lot at Rolling Hills at 750 000 but that number came in much less than than that amount so we're already uh going to be under budget there fund 46 is the same as fun 41 and that it's a fund that's dedicated towards preserving or expanding your buildings and keeping them going fund 46 is funded if you have additional dollars at the end of a school year left over you can transfer them at the end of the school year retroactively and say we're going to set these dollars aside for building projects here this past year we transferred a million dollars into

082fund 46 as we Forge ahead here we have identified a number of one-time projects with the permission of the school board as some of these dollars are set aside by principals or by our athletic director if they're fiscally responsible we'll allow for them to keep whatever budget dollars they don't use and then they can preserve those dollars for a a project such as our baseball fence replacement Mr trudell has set money aside in his last two budgets and he's able to accomplish this Capital project through his own budget so we have a number of projects there that will be funded by fund 46. we continue to do a good job of funding our buildings and keeping them in a great working order because those are assets of the community that we're responsible for making sure

083that they are taken care of for fund 50 our food service fund we have budgeted revenues of 2.3 million but expenditures of 2.7 million we have added over eight hundred thousand dollars to our food service fund balance Food Services kind of been in a funky State here where meals have been free for a while we've received Federal reimbursements for those free meals and we've increased our fund balance pretty significantly we don't want to have a fund balance of 1.4 million dollars there we're not trying to uh you know operate like a for-profit so as we move forward as lunch prices are brought back and and families are responsible for paying the cost of their lunch we are going to re-institute lunch prices at the 2019-20 levels and that will draw down our our reserves by

084half a million so ultimately we're able to somewhat subsidize our lunches for our families while they continue to pay them again but we do have a plan to work down our fund balance by providing meals at a lower cost to our families 173 is our employee trust fund uh as a part of our compensation package for teachers we we provide retirement benefits for our teachers there uh there's details on page 36 for the budget and Pages 58 and 59 kind of shows you the last 12 month snapshot of money in and money out we've increased our contributions into fund 73 over the last four years we are over 90 percent funded there which I think most districts if they talk to you about their funded status here they would definitely trade places with us to

085be where we are we are pre-funding future liabilities if we didn't do that then we'd have to pay our retired teachers out of our operating budget which ultimately would eat into your classroom budget so we are proactively setting money aside for future liabilities and we've done a great job there and I imagine we'll continue to do that in years to come last budget or last fund excuse me is fund 80 is our community service fund there's a hundred fifty thousand dollar tax levy that serves as a source of Revenue there that goes to pay for two school resource officers at the middle school in the high school and then we have a Community Education Program for twenty thousand dollars and that that's the levy uh what that Levy funds there and that's all I have

086I have two minutes to spare Sean would you like me to fill up the two minutes and keep going or do you want me to stop all right so we'll talk about this at the annual meeting and take votes at that time and I'm all done thank you listen that fun student reps you know that's everywhere foreign okay so if someone on the board would like to do it that is perfectly fine otherwise we we do have some administrative options in and so uh Stephanie Blue has said that she would be willing to do it oh but uh but so so we should start on on page five or I'm sorry H3 go through that process and then when we get to that point I'll help you why are the doors closed I was wondering

087the same thing I don't know why I mean that's open to open that door thank you pardon me a nomination Craig has done it before and I know he's super excited about it yeah I was before I was on the board about temporary chairperson do I have to read something no okay okay I am going to call this meeting to order this is the annual meeting of the Mukwonago Area School District Waukesha County state of Wisconsin the formal budget hearing is part of the annual meeting as required by Wisconsin code 65.90 sub chapter 4. the annual meeting was announced in the official School District area newspaper which is the Waukesha Freeman if you would join me in the Pledge of Allegiance [Music] pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to

088the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all right I want to welcome everyone thank you for all for coming tonight those of you in attendance you are eligible to be a vote tonight if you meet some of the basic qualifications if you're a citizen of the United States in 18 years of age or older as well as the resident of the district for at least 28 days before election if you do not if you qualify and you do not have a purple paper please grab one at the door and fill that out we do have our school clerk president Terry Wing choki is here so no election is necessary for a clerk this evening and we are going to move into an election of a permanent

089chairperson for the rest of this annual meeting do I have any nominations for that chairperson I nominate Stephanie blue I have a nomination for Stephanie Blue a second any other nominations hearing none all those in favor say aye aye all right we all welcome Stephanie you can join us right over here Tom's got a microphone for you Stephanie in the microphone kid okay so no action is required on minutes at this meeting so we'll start with the treasures report accounting firm of Hawkins Ash CPAs Lop Manitowoc Wisconsin is in the process of auditing the general purposes financial statements of the mukwonaco area school district as of and for the year ended June 30th 2022 including its various funds and accounting groups any adjustment required by the Auditors for the purpose of forming an opinion on

090the general purpose financial statements taken as a whole have been or will be discussed with the district and if necessary recorded in the district's accounting records the audit is scheduled to be completed in September a summary of The District's unaudited receipts and expenditures are presented in the perp in the proposed 2022-23 budget included in this document the accounts are presented in an outline form additional details regarding the district's budgeted receipts and expenditures are available from the Director of Business Services in addition copies of the audit report will be on file in the school district office and may be examined by any elector of the district okay we'll move to the superintendent's report yeah thanks Stephanie so as as you know this is my final year as superintendent and when I took this job 10 years

091ago one of my first tasks was to give a state of the district address to the school board and I'm sure art and Sherry would tell you that was one of the most riveting meetings that they had been at so basically what I did at that time was explain where we were as a district and where I thought we needed to go and so I want to briefly do the same tonight after I asked Tom to be brief I'll try to do the same and so these are some areas that I'm hoping that you the school board and the administration will be focusing our efforts on for the next nine to ten months so if you want to look at the screen I thought I'd start with the Strategic plan as you are aware our

092strategic plan was adopted in September of 2019. we are in the fourth year of what we said at that time was a three to five year plan and thus I highly recommend that you work to update this plan next school year with the new superintendent you all know that the Strategic plan has four major components learning for all students College and Career Readiness improving mental health for our students and recruiting and retaining high quality staff now we just had updates on these different components in June and July so I'm not going to go into a lot of details about those various different components you're going to get another update in October and November from Stephanie from Dustin from Christine and Stephen and others so I'm very confident as we're moving forward that we are doing

093great work surrounding the first three components of the Strategic plan of course the very first two learning for all students in College and Career Readiness are really at the heart of what great schools and districts should be focused on and I'm confident that we are doing it better than most the school board should also be confident that we have the right people and the right programs in place for these areas despite some setbacks and this is important despite those some setbacks due to the pandemic we are improving instruction in this district and we are increasing student achievement and I really do need to thank the school board for providing the resources that we need to accomplish this over the last few years we've added instructional coaches we've added interventionists and we've added programs such as

094after school tutoring at the elementary we've expanded our summer school program including that targeted reading program in August called Ready set go which has been very helpful so thank you to the board for investing in those resources going to College and Career Readiness I really would like to challenge you to find a high school and area that has a better CTE program our Career and Technical education program one that's as strong as ours is right now with our I.T Academy whether our Academy of Medical professions and along with a fantastic trades engineering and culinary programs we are hitting it out of the park in those areas now please know that I do understand that we have work to do for example our ACT scores at MHS are not where we want them to be uh

095we are working to improve our 18 to 21 year program and I also understand the severity of that third component the mental health issue we Face a lot of challenges in our schools with mental health but again the board should be aware and be confident that we have people and programs in place to help address those challenges we've added guidance counselors our district has a guidance counselor at every elementary school there are very few districts in the state that can say that that is a serious commitment that this board has made to help our students at the elementary level we've added another guidance counselor at the high school we've also added programs such as soar alternative education programs such as soar and the GED 2 program at MHS to help those students that are struggling

096we've also developed part private our Partnerships with private providers such as Crossroads and the gals Institute to help provide counseling services to our students so yes there are a lot there's a lot of work to do but we have the resources the programs the people in place to help kids in our schools that are struggling with mental health but that said it's that fourth one it's that fourth component that is a cause for concern so similar to other Industries and organizations we do have a labor challenge so school starts in 10 days school starts in 10 days we're short at least 12 paraprofessionals where short Food Service staff or a short custodial staff and we desperately need a 4K teacher with one of our community providers at the YMCA so we are struggling there we

097hired 46 new teachers this year and there was a steep decline in the number of applicants the teacher shortage is real teachers have choices and districts with low Revenue caps like ours Tom talked about the low Revenue cap or at a distinct disadvantage after Act 10 was passed almost 11 years ago now the teacher compensation landscape changed dramatically at that time it has changed dramatically again for a variety of different reasons so we're going to have to adapt we're going to have to make some this some changes in our district to be able to meet the Staffing challenges and we're going to talk about those as we go throughout the rest of the year as we prepare for the next hiring season of course our ability to compete with the higher paying districts is largely

098determined by state funding and that's my second slide here very soon we need to be starting to talk about the 2023-25 state budget if we are going to be able to as a low Revenue District if we're going to be able to compete with higher Revenue districts in our area we need to have a better state budget this time around and I know all or many of you have said that you're willing to have conversations with our legislators and and we're going to start those conversations after elections in November so that's coming soon and and we're going to need to work together to make sure that this time around this biennial budget has to include an increase in funding for public schools and an increase in the revenue cap if they just increase the funding

099but they don't increase the revenue cap then that funding just goes to taxpayer relief which is great taxpayer relief is wonderful but it doesn't give us the additional monies that we need to pay teachers and buy supplies etc etc so more work to come on that before we get to that state funding conversation before we talk about the state budget we have another big task and that's to hire the next superintendent so I strongly urge you you've hired bwp trust in the process that they've created it's really important and you guys have a good start the job is posted it's really important that you are working early on this this past year Tom mentioned earlier 422 districts in the state of Wisconsin 100 of them have a new superintendent for this year almost 25 percent

100of the districts in the state of Wisconsin have a new superintendent so I don't expect that the pool is going to be real deep so it's best to start early and you're doing that we do have the survey from bwp for our stakeholders we will get that to our parents and to community members and others this week that survey will open up on August 25th which is Thursday we have open houses at most of our schools on Thursday and and so we'll make sure those surveys are available to parents when they go to open house the interviews um the individual board member interviews with bwp and also the focus groups um that's the week of September 19th that will be here before you know it and then those interviews will start in early November and

101hopefully you'll have a candidate identified and approved on November 28th that's a big commitment one of the most important jobs that a school board does is hire a superintendent and so a lot of work involved I'm glad you hired bwp but I know that there's a lot of work for you guys too so we want to thank you in advance for doing that in addition to hiring a superintendent and all the other work that you do on your committees and at the full board you also are in the midst of a facility plan and as you know you have reviewed all eight of our schools over the past 15 months we've looked at the capacity we've looked at how we utilize our programs in each of the buildings we've looked at our grade level configurations

102we had a population study enrollment projection study and we know MD roffers is projecting that we're going to increase by three to four hundred students over the next 10 to 15 years and thus I think we've reached the consensus that we are going to explore options for a middle school with grade configuration of six seven and eight there are over 500 middle schools in the state of Wisconsin only 40 have that seven eight configuration that's an outdated model it's time to move forward sixth graders in my opinion are a much better fit for a middle school than they are for elementary academically socially emotionally much better for them to be in a middle school we also agreed to review our 4K program options and other areas of need and you heard tonight Mike and avoc

103did a nice job of explaining the need for fitness center indoor practice facility and we'll be looking at some other things as well and then the final thing and I hope you read my parent letter my welcome back letter I want to make sure that that you are sharing this with our community with our parents our district as long as I've been superintendent as long as I've been an Administration as long as I've been in the district for 30 years has always embraced parent involvement we need to encourage our parents to continue to learn more about their child's learning experience they need to ask their kids about the lessons and the activities that they're doing in the classroom on a daily basis parents are welcome welcome to review classroom materials the curriculum classroom materials on

104Google classroom and seesaw the curriculum Stephanie and Ben and others in the student learning Department have done a fantastic job of getting our curriculum on the website take a look including our SEL curriculum that is that on now um or soon to be hey six is good to go at this point on the website our guidance curriculum k-6 is on the website so parents and others can see the different activities and the lessons please encourage parents board members encourage parents if they have questions or concerns about a lesson or materials or a book to email or call the teacher and if that doesn't work then to reach out to the principal and then also please encourage people to volunteer or even work in our schools even better if you really want to know what's going

105on in our schools volunteer or come work for us and I get that not everybody's able to do that but it certainly is an option we need help and if you can't work in food service or be a paraprofessional be a substitute teacher or a sub at um for any of those positions as well so that's it try to be brief so I think those are the things that we're going to be working on the next several months together good job Sean thanks Greg hey so we're on to the board president's report then and because I'm going to Echo so much of what Sean had to say I will actually be brief and as I prepared for tonight's board president report I actually found the my first one that was written out from 2019 2020

106and in it I said a lot of very similar things that I would say again tonight and how um we fully and wholeheartedly embrace our school district Mission which is to build better schools together that as a committee a community as staff as parents and students we work really well and very hard together I talked about how we had just completed that strategic plan that we're going to need to step back into and re-address again I also mentioned that there might be some challenges down the road that we might have to face and little did we know that we didn't know well we didn't know and the challenges that came were way more than we could have ever dreamed but we're not going to talk about that because we have moved on we've survived we've

107recovered we've moved on and it's an unfortunate reality that growth and strength come out of adversity so I think it's fair to say that we're all ready to move forward completely focused on achievements on scores on improving investing and evaluating our curriculums and our policies and we get to do this stronger than we were three years ago as a board we're going to continue to work to achieve a strategic plan took a plan for our near future as well as a distant future and since we're going to be spending a lot of time do it and I think we're all here for it and we're ready and we're prepared and we're looking forward to them so we are really looking forward to a positive 2022-23 school year and just another successful year of Cooperative efforts

108like Sean said there's a lot happening with labor with staff we can't back down now this is where we buckle down as a community we continue to work together we get our friends to apply for those jobs we're going to make verts a school bus driver on his free time and that we talk to our legislators as well as our community so I want to thank everyone for being here and we look forward to a great year okay the post-retirement trust fund report okay this is one of those things as part of the Angeline we just give an update on our post-employment trust fund here so there's details on page 58 and 59 we have two accounts that uh hold money for employee benefits as part compensation package here on page 58 we have a

109snapshot of our beginning fund balance and ending fund balance from the prior uh fiscal year um we started the year with 5.6 million dollars and ended with 5.5 we ultimately transferred in uh just over a little over a million dollars so you can see the rates of return on the investment we had that in a very since we are almost fully funded we do not pursue uh risky rates of return or we're not going after uh aggressive Investments we're keeping our money safe and preventing it from shrinking so we have that on on account with uh Citizens Bank and over the last couple months there at the very end of the fiscal year you can see that interest rates started to climb so overall again we're in a great spot there on page 59 then

110we have a 500 matching program for our teachers there and on page 59 then there's a summary of how much money we have set aside there so as teachers uh set money uh their own money aside we match that and once they retire in good standing then we transfer that amount to them so we are in excellent shape there in our post-employment trust fund and finally the community service fund report okay another requirement of the annual meeting we got to provide information to the community as to what we do here so our community uh Service uh fund is uh details around page 37 ultimately it's pretty simple a lot of communities will have more complex and perhaps like robust Recreation programs or uh certain things of that nature here but ours is really just two

111school resource officers in a small Community Education Program that's continuing to to grow and and work forward here um the vast again the vast majority of the costs there our purchase services that we pay to the Mukwonago Police Department for our school resource officers at the middle school in the high school and again about a little bit of salary and benefits there for the director of the Community Education Program who has been uh Bob Slane and we now have a Christy buyer am I saying that right yep so Christy Byers taking that baton from Mr slain to continue to push that forward here but that is the community service report I move into action items as part of the meeting um so be it resolved that attacks in the amount of eight hundred thousand dollars

112be levied for the 2022-23 school year to be deposited in the capital expansion fund to be used solely for the purpose of maintaining Mukwonago Area School District facilities so we're looking yep so we're looking for we talked about this at the budget hearing we're looking to set aside eight hundred thousand dollars from our tax levy to preserve our walls our our roofs our buildings and and keep the assets that these buildings are for the community so we are looking for somebody in this room if they're comfortable to make a motion um and then a second and then we'll show show hands here to take a vote expansion funds second okay so all in favor of that can we if we're comfortable show of hands here okay motion carries okay the next action item be a

113result that attacks in the amount of 30 million 236 000 and 22 dollars beloved be levied on all property real and personal which is taxable under state tax laws within them of Quantico Area School District counties of Waukesha and Walworth state of Wisconsin for the purpose of financing the operation of the public schools of the school district for the year 2022-23 pursuant to the budget for this year as presented in the annual meeting so this tax levy this resolution we're looking for somebody to make a motion on and second represents all the other tax leving that's going to occur in addition to what we just approved there in that first motion so if anybody's comfortable making a motion there for the remaining tax levy we'll entertain that motion I'll make a motion second okay we'll

114go by a show of hands are all in favor is anybody opposed okay motion carries okay next item up is board salaries it is up to the citizens voting at the annual meeting to determine what board salaries will be for the 2022-23 school year currently board salaries are 3 500 with the board president receiving an additional thousand uh this amount was established in 2021 page 60 does have comparables to other districts so emotion is needed to set the board's salary amounts for 22.23 I'll make the motion what motion do you want to make Joel do you want to keep him as is do you want to I'll keep it as is I'll second it okay so we have a motion to keep salaries as is in a second all right so all in favor of

115that we'll go by show of hands again okay is anybody opposed okay congratulations you guys got part-time pay for full-time work I'm sorry I did Joel you made that motion and art you have the second right on the Finish none okay um then new business be it resolved that the school board of Mukwonago area school district is hereby authorized during the current school year to sell and dispose of any tangible personal property belonging to the school district that is determined by the school board to be no longer needed for school purposes so as a part of the annual meeting we uh we are required to ask for this permission the school district and the board could not just simply sell our assets without the blessing of the community so this is a time when the

116community can weigh in to see if they're comfortable giving uh the school board and the administration the permission to sell property when it's no longer useful to the district so if anybody wants to make a motion and a second there I'll make that motion second okay we'll go with a show of hand vote here all right is anybody opposed okay awesome carries okay and be it resolved that the school board of the Mukwonago area school district is granted the authority of the electorate to establish the date for the 2023 annual meeting so by default it would naturally become the third uh Monday of July if no action here is taken but if the citizens here are comfortable giving permission it will give the board the flexibility to perhaps choose June July August maybe September uh

117some years we've moved it up or moved it back based on whatever the circumstance is so if the citizens are comfortable giving permission to the board to set their own annual meeting dates we're looking for a motion there I'll make that motion second all right show our hands anybody opposed all right motion carries and we can look to adjourn for a voice with a Voice vote I'd like to make that motion we adjourn no second all approved [Music] anybody opposed we can keep going if you want motion carries all right curious Tom has the numbers it's a surprisingly tickets that goes the react or whatever I'll fight Craig wow WWE just want to see me next all right we're going to keep this rolling I'm gonna call this meeting to order the August 2022 School

118Board monthly meeting if you join me in a moment of silence mindless doesn't do we need to do a pledge of allegiance again no we have done the Pledge of Allegiance already Cherry if you would do roll call for me Erica Connor here Joel Fredericks here Dale Porter here art Schneider I am Miss shorts I am also here Yvonne Simon here here Steve Waddles excused Jerry winchoki here okay this is an open meeting it has been noted as such do we know if we have any citizens comments this evening here okay then we're going to jump into our student rep report and welcome our two new student reps this month welcome we're glad you're here the first annual Mukwonago summer choir Camp it was a huge success wanting to allow our fourth or 12th grade

119singers to get some Summer singing Mukwonago choirs establish a week-long summer choir Camp run in tandem with our summer Adventures program during the week 63 students participated in large choir rehearsals and smaller group sectionals divided by Boys Part leave small group lessons in both dance taught by Peggy strimple choreographer for the kids from Wisconsin voice lessons taught by our staff and vocal percustom workshops led by MSD choir alumni and large group staged musical members to give the kids the kids a holistic experience that covered all types of singing thank you in addition to all this learning kids participated in Daily community building games that encouraged cross-grade relationships fostered new friendships with kids from other schools and did a different camping themed activity each day including tie-dying t-shirts hikes kickball and dance parties all the amazing

120learning and fun culminated in a fantastic performance at the end of the week in the PAC MHS can't wait to hold this very successful event every year MHS Junior Kylie rich and MHS special education teacher Marilyn tashner spent a week in Denver Colorado this summer Kylie is one of 13 students from across the country who has been chosen to be on the national youth youth Advisory board for the Sandy Hook promise they spent the week in Denver planning great things for the save promised clubs across the country including Mukwonago High School Sage promise Club um Wednesday night gardening series continued throughout the summer months covering topics from gardening tools and vertical gardening to damsels and dragonflies all of the instructors were extremely knowledgeable and very giving of their time and talents John grunman an art

121teacher at Section Elementary continues to be a popular instructor for the program his glass fusing class quickly filled up and had a waiting list he is graciously offered to host the class in October as well both classes Drew participants from the Mukwonago area as well as the surrounding communities and many participants heard about the classes through Word of Mouth emails and flies passed out in schools the fall winter program is filled with many new offerings and several returning instructors as well the program kicks off with Kathy Selzer benavesus's class yoga for working stiffs on Tuesday September 6th all Community classes are posted online and the printed catalog will be going out to elementary students during the first week of school the program is excited to see registration for the 23 classes take off at the

122beginning of the summer a new program coordinator Christy Bayer was hired to take over the Rands from Bob Slane who is hoping to make his retirement official one day once again Rolling Hills was able to host Camp invention this July the stem-based summer camp is designed to engage kids in collaborative creative problem-solving activities Camp invention is directed by masd teachers Melissa Barton and Kyle Barton throughout the week campers rotated through five modules yet by pbms teacher Shannon korth and rhes teachers Krista Christensen Kim hinz Terry Weber and Kelsey rinka Guided by this year's theme Explorer the modules included robotic Aquatics where campers dove into ocean research and adopted their own aquatic animal space station where Inspire inspiration from real life exploration helped campus create space packs and Astro armed devices to help them with gravity

123defying cooking glow-in-the-dark lunar discoveries and erupting ice volcanoes the attic combined art and stem to create an immersive and creative experience for campers built their own robotic artists to help them make amazing Spin Art marble arcade rolled and zigzag through physics engineering and gaming as campers built a Mega Marble arcade games allowed the kids to get some extra energy out while using strategy with an all-time high number of campers Camp invention 2022 welcomed 121 in the first through sixth grade 21 leaders in training in 7th or ninth grade and 12 leadership members in 10 through college including student board rep Madeleine Wilhelm students and staff had a tremendous time in rhes looks forward to Camp invention next summer staff hosted another year of e3 exploring the environment this was the biggest year yet with almost

124doubling enrollment and hosting close to 300 students between two sessions students participated in Virtual visits to National Parks learned about trees and Eagleville schools Forest explored the creek listened to numerous guest speakers and ended the week with hot dog cookout huge thank you to all the teachers staff administrators and school board members that helped make E3 and the cookout a success at Section Elementary sensory space this summer a team of teachers came together to create chillville a sensory place for all students thanks to a generous donation by the section ptg the project was fully funded this space was designed to provide a place for students to decompress calm and focus so they can be better prepared for learning highlights of the space include a swing sensory walking tiles a tent sensory bins bubble lights and

125more new basketball hoops thanks to a generous donation from the section ptg the four basketball hoops on the playground were replaced this summer the new Hoops are up and game ready um at Claritin the Wisconsin RTL Center has recognized Clarendon Avenue Elementary and reading math and behavior at the silver level for its work toward fully implementing a PBIS system that leads to improved student outcomes the Equitable system helps increase the consistency of instruction enhances staff skills proactively provides support for all Learners and build stronger relationships Big Bend Elementary School used Esser funds over the summer to allow Aid teachers to work with 50 students to help them close achievement gaps in the areas of math and reading attendance and engagement were at high levels during these tutoring sessions we feel the 50 students have gained

126much needed confidence in these academic areas as they get ready for the upcoming school year at Parkview there has been a busy summer preparing for students and staff to return the offices have been busy processing new student enrollments and filling the staff roster everyone is filled thrilled to welcome new students and staff to pbms last week the annual fees forms and picture days were held and it was great having every all the students back in the building and only made everyone more excited to be back on September 1st and 2nd Prairie View is looking forward to the upcoming school year and hosted a 4K 5K playground play date for all incoming students there was beautiful weather and an excellent turnout the families enjoyed getting to know one another meeting the teachers and learning more about

127Prairie View thank you to all of those who came out to play that's all we got that's great good job thank you guys we're going to go ahead and move into the consent agenda I'm looking for the approval of school board meeting minutes of July 25th 2022 and August 8 2022 as well as the approval of voucher numbers one three eight three three seven to one three eight five four six in the amount of 1.7 million and change as well as receipts for July 2022 totaling 279 000 and change do I have any questions comments or concerns okay hearing none they are approved by consent and then we will get into our committee updates and we'll start with the learning committee at our meeting we 've definitely updated the committee on the human growth of

128development committee that's being worked on this summer their next meeting is this upcoming Tuesday and there are minutes for both of the previous meetings online for anyone who would be would like to look into what has happened so far we also discussed data days and that is we are going to look at a new way of looking at data and Stu and teachers were invited to come and learn about this data first first the administration came in and then the leadership teams came in and learned how this new data collecting would be done and those teams will go back to their buildings and educate or communicate what's going on with it with their buildings um the sociology curriculum approval has been moved to our action items so that will be discussed at that time there

129have been so the third grade literacy scores were a concern and so we had a discussion about that and there are several things that are being put into place with that they're switching to help our second third graders as the second graders move into third grade they're working on comprehension and other areas that they need feel we need adjustments in we looked at our Neola policies and we have finished our Neola policies so other groups we've finished ours and we were going to discuss when to start over again and the director's report was that the next Academy that we're looking into is future Educators Academy which is I feel is very exciting and there's a whole group of teachers that are very excited about it and I can't wait to hear about what how where

130that moves ahead that's it anything to add nope okay thank you and then Personnel committee a Personnel committee uh obviously Neola policy review I'm not sure if we're done or not because they just keep on coming we've discussed staff attendance elementary school security and staff retention review Stephen yes sir have at it awesome during the review of the policies we looked at public comment student supervision and Welfare staff gifts use of tobacco and nicotine by professional staff staff dressing grooming and weapons there were no revisions suggested except for public comment which is now going to be in the uh is now in the action uh action item section so with regards to attendance we took a look at the mass data that we had in terms of uh last year and um also the challenges

131that come up when we don't have enough Subs in the building that ends up pulling a lot of uh folks outside of that that don't have a classroom role to assist and support in the classroom and obviously the continuity of student learning is is hugely important and not having um having having Subs in the building is extremely important so as a part of that I reached out to talk to Toc to see if our rates of Phil are similar and how our pay Compares and also reached out to Local District to get a sense of how we compare in that regard as it happens our pay is comparable and this has just been a tough area in public education this last year so in terms of the report that was drafted we have the majority

132of the the differences in terms of attendance from year to year is based on based on that we didn't have a lot of conferences and trainings during our pandemic years most of it got curtailed and what we were focused on was was just the sickness and so we saw some fluctuations but the majority of attendance droppage or the sub usage was based on conferences one of one of the challenges we've got is we try to make sense of this data and we try to think through what what this information means is that last year was our was a return to a relative normal however we were still quarantining students at the start of the year and and staff as well so when it comes to taking a look at what this data means we really

133only have one year of semi-normal this this year will be much much closer to to normal in terms of uh being able to identify uh trends some of the things that we're looking at exploring in terms of reducing staff absences is potentially what would it look like if we paid staff out for not using their personal day um allowed for staff to get paid something in terms of reducing their their sick time at retirement and uh just working with building principles to identify staff that have chronic problems with with attendance and then address those on an individual level and then the final thought was that perhaps we could look at how we would move professional development to to summer or reduce conference attendance again not a super awesome long-term suggestion um as as folks are

134pretty excited for summer and they're looking to to you know find other opportunities with their families and such but again we're just taking a look at all of those options that are out there so that's uh that staff absences any questions on that okay all right moving on then to the elementary security update we're now going to be taking a look at um how we would be able to potentially fund having Elementary security at all of our elementaries and some of the discussion is centered around whether or not we would be able to use fund to 80 which is our Community Fund um versus having to use fund 10. the benefit of being able to use fund 80 is that we would we would we don't have the restrictions that um the funding restrictions that

135fund 10 does however it's not clear from the policy and the information that's provided from the state of Wisconsin that that would be an appropriate use because the when fund data is used it has to be for not just K-12 programming it has to have some linkage beyond that and so what we did is we reached out to local districts it doesn't look like from those that responded that they're looking to add security at this time um and in the the other side of it is that it would be it would be very very costly but um some some of the local districts mentioned just having really strong relationships with sros and making sure that those folks are coming through the buildings and providing good visibility so that one police officers are seen as partners

136in in our community and two that we that kids get to know police officers in a in a in a good in a good positive sort of experience so with that um there's there's more to follow in terms of talking with the elementary principles to see what what what they might need so any questions on Elementary security and then the final topic that we uh we explored in the committee was taking a look at our resignation and retention information and we have a good deal of data we've got about 11 years to be able to take a look at the number of retirements and resignations that we've had and this year has certainly been a unique year especially in terms of resignations it's the most that we've got on record and right now HR directors

137regionally were talking with one another to get a sense of how our experience relates to to their districts and what we're finding is there is a good deal of turnover and that's going to be just as Sean had mentioned going to be a big part of the recruiting but then also retaining we want to be able to hang on to our staff because again we talk about continuity of learning in terms of the classroom but there's also continuity of learning within a program when we have a staff member who's been in a position for several years your practice continues to grow to continues to improve and so being able to hang on to staff is something that's very very important so with uh with that with that information being said taking a look at the

138uh the reasons why people were leaving taking a look at the exit interviews but also the the um the exit interviews and and also the letters of resignation some of them are pretty detailed and so we're able to get some sense of what people were looking for so um again it's very hard to to know what this year's data means but it is it's kind of a it's not it's a cold comfort at best to know that others are struggling obviously we want our students to be with quality staff we want to be able to retain our staff and so that's that's going to be a big part of the work as we go into the next hiring season any questions thanks Steven I think so thank you of course all right um though although

139we just had our financing facility committee meeting do you want to give us a brief update for those listening okay we uh talked about uh fund balanced designation we'll have an action item for that a little later um we've got an update uh for the MHS weight room and their lack of space and their amount of students they have to turn away because the lack of space um Tom's looking into hourly rates for uh gyms um at the high school and middle schools yep yep correct and um then we also brief discussion about uh space for the robotics team and uh what possibilities may exist there for renting some possible space and we also got an update for the Saint James lease okay thank you on August 8th the school board got together for the

140first of many special meetings to come as Sean mentioned earlier we are in the beginning stages of searching for our next superintendent we met with the search firm that we hired bwp and we put together and agreed upon a timeline that is set before us we have online family surveys that are going out very soon there will be community outreach and focus groups that are coming ultimately interviews should hopefully maybe start by the beginning of November and potentially have a candidate selected by the end of November early December so we have started that process and are going to move right along hmm we also we're going to move right into our action items we have appointments resignations and retirements all right for appointments we've got Lauren garthier that is pvms Ela teacher Tammy Wilcox middle

141school special ed teacher Krista Bellinger MHS literacy interventionist and that leaves us with one staff member certified staff member to hire and that's for our rise tutoring position so that's the last one I'd like to make motion we approve these have a second okay any comments questions discussion okay all those in favor say aye aye aye any opposed motion carries our next action item is on our sociology curriculum approval and Stephanie is here to talk about that so last year in the middle of the year the textbooks was chosen new textbook for our sociology curriculum and um Ryan Bice this summer worked then on making sure that the curriculum now matched uh the new research or the new resource that we had and so I'm asking for approval for that curriculum make that emotion remote

142second any questions or discussion yes I did second I just have concerns a lot of the sociology book um just got it on Friday and I read some stuff in there and some of the stuff is concerning to me I'm talking about white privilege talking about the majority in America being the white male dominant and talking about how were discriminatory against immigrants which is not true I don't think anybody's really disgrun against immigrants I think most people say illegal immigrations are against not immigrants so there's Parts in there that are totally totally disagree and I don't think it belongs in our school you have parts like specific examples you can read from all right institutional discrimination can also include the promotion of a group status such in a case of white privilege which is the

143benefits of people receiving simply people receive simply by being the dominant group well most white people are willing to admit that non-white people live with a set of disadvantages due to the color of their skin very few are willing to acknowledge the benefits they receive there's another one where we're talking about in the United States recent immigrants have frequently been the scapegoat for the nation or the individual's woes many states have enacted laws to disenfranchise immigrants these laws are probably because they let the dominant group scapegoat a subordinate group just some of the stuff I found in there that I totally disagree with and I don't think should be in our schools yeah it was it was um a little dicey at times Steph so keep in mind that a sociology course is going to

144be looking at issues that are that are currently there we did look long and hard for a textbook um veto and uh Erica and Cherry can vouch by that we did with the copy of this textbook go with the second edition instead of going with the Third Edition that actually made even more the the chapters on race and gender updated them more I guess some of the issues that are being discussed and so Ryan Bice um very much I have gone through with him his PowerPoints that he uses to teach those two chapters he very much keeps those chapters to definitions that are going to be needed to pass the club exam keep in mind again that this is a Sociology class that we offer that gets college credit for students so there are certain

145things that we have to teach in that class in order for students to do well on that exam he does not go into detail about those things but he does Define White Privilege he does Define this as the class that we've said that can have the definition of critical race theory in there I start to worry about offering a sociology elective class to our children if we can't teach them the things that they're going to need to learn to to pass it I feel strongly that he concentrates on definitions and teaching them what things are and not going into detail of telling them how to think about those issues I think the book does that though I think the problem that Dale points out is that whether or not we're we're just telling them the

146definition of white privilege if you go by the text of the book it is it is give it's telling our kids that white privilege is a thing and and there's a whole bunch of us that don't agree it exists so it goes the book itself is what goes beyond the uh just going with the definitions like we had talked about with what was the other one that we were talking about I think you just mentioned it SEO no we were like it was just going into the the definition of critical racer yeah um so that I think that's where the that's where the Hang Up is my guess my question is going to be what what what's what what's the other option so this is an elective class if we don't approve a book does

147that mean we don't have an elective class well please keep in mind the book is approved the book you approved already so what are we doing now book is approval the curriculum that is now aligned with the book yeah if if I may um is it okay for me yet okay sorry um I took this course last semester and as a student in in the class itself what you're saying with the definitions point is very accurate um and he Mr Vice does give us the knowledge that we need to understand the course and to be able to succeed on the CLEP exam the textbook while it is a part of the course is not extremely instrumental it's used but it's not the main focus so if you're worried about exactly how the wording is in

148the textbook it's being read through by Mr Bice and then um translated into the slideshows that are the main section of the curriculum itself thank you I think that's a good point and we have talked about it a number of times here at board meetings as well as at committee meetings to remember that textbooks are considered part of the resource they're not exactly like how we were when we were in school read all of chapter one do the questions at the end right like we don't necessarily teach that way anymore it's a resource like we're going to read this part of this book and then we're going to use this over here but we did indeed scour the book a couple years ago and we did approve it then so that has already been voted

149on but it's if you went through the documents that came alongside on the board packet that's what we're looking at today so um if you have any specific questions about the units that were proposed and the pacing that is what the motion and the second is that's on the table tonight if that helps clarify that it does okay I have a question um it's mainly Juniors and seniors correct correct any other comments or discussion okay I have a motion a second all those in favor say aye aye aye any opposed we we better get in account of the Nays please so uh how about a show off hand we can roll call yep Erica Connor yes Joel Frederick yes Gail Porter nay Arch neuter yes Peter Schwartz hey Carolyn Simon hey Greg Bert nay Steve

150Waddles isn't here at Jerry winchoki yes is that 4-4 yep yes it is so I think where we are standing is that school starts in 10 days I don't know if everyone can agree to open up this document and look at the first unit and if we can agree to pass the first unit because we don't have another meeting to approve this before school starts so the first unit has zero changes from anything that's been taught in the course before and again I would encourage you to look at the curriculum and and what do you find objectional objectionable about the curriculum you got that open so yeah it's in the board docs because because again we have students registered for this course uh we start school in 10 days you definitely aligned the curriculum with

151the textbook that was adopted and I just want to remind the board like we approved the book and because we approved the book veto the irony is that you're voting no on it tonight but you did vote to approve the book I absolutely am in favor of acknowledging my mistakes and if I approved a book A book that I shouldn't approve no no you read that book you looked at the critical race Theory we had him here you looked at the slides as much of the book as I possibly could but I am not a speed reader and I have a full-time job so I did not catch what he caught so if he caught something I can perfectly I can stand up and say I screwed up and I should not have approved that

152book and if there's a way to for me to not do it I'm gonna not continue to make the same mistake okay so what what I would do then is corrected at the appropriate time that was not the time to change course that now uh if you want to ask Stephanie and the staff to start looking for a different sociology textbook for next year that would be appropriate but right now 10 days before school starts to say that you don't like the book that puts all of us in a really difficult position I would argue that right now is the right time to do it otherwise what we're doing right now serves no purpose there's no reason to vote on anything if we're not going to look into it and do this stuff so we

153did vote on the book you voted on the book looking at the curriculum to make sure that oh I mean I can I can change my opinion here I didn't have a chance I wasn't at the meeting for this it was brought up to me beforehand so I'll take a look at this and and see the look at the first year and if we need to if if I'll change if I need to if this isn't inappropriate but I don't I'll be honest Sean and I mean no disrespect here I don't care about any of that stuff if it means that the kids are not going to be fed information that I don't think that they should be fed I I then okay it doesn't get voted on and the whole thing gets scrapped that's

154a better solution that's not a better situation in my mind I I strongly disagree with that well he's not eating he's not feeding not saying he is but if I see if there's information that the kids that I think is inappropriate for the kids to get I think it's irresponsible for us to just do it because that's what we because we don't want to scrap a class or something like that or we don't want to put people in a bind otherwise there's no point to doing this right we have to we have to approve a book we have to approve a curriculum if we don't agree on both of them it doesn't happen and there's no reason to do these two steps if the chance that it doesn't get approved isn't there well as you

155approved the book that's fine and now we're in a jam so and I would argue that well you know I would argue like if we just back away from like the information like this these lesson plans are actually what allows for using the book to be done well and maybe more of a way that you would feel comfortable with these are how we use or not use parts of the book so it and please keep in mind that this is an elective no one is required to take this so if there are students and families in our district that want to take this class we are making it available this does not required curriculum this is an elective for college credits so could we potentially send out a letter to parents for the students that

156sign up saying hey this is the class you signed up for here's the curriculum here's the outline let them make that educated choice on their own and then if with this information they feel like they need to Quick drop I don't know it might even be too soon for that I think parents also like voted Us in trusting us to look over this stuff they voted us all in right correct yeah Jerry you had something to say first off are both of these items discussed in one chapter no there's a chapter on race and then there's another chapter on gender okay and where in the year does this evolve or where in the semester does it fall so it looks like it's unit three uh I think one is units three and one is unit

157six I don't have it in front of me right now okay well the reason I mean the other one is later the reason I'm asking is um there are students that are counting on taking this class in order for them to be able to get the college credits they are seeking and with what what we are then doing is taking away from students who are wanting to take this because we are a board that looks at the entire Community not just certain parts of the community so there are probably certain parts of the community that are really okay with all of it I'm not saying I'm not giving my opinion I'm looking here at his on an unbiased thing so they are looking for this board to look at everything read everything and make and

158allow a way that all students can take the classes they would like to take so what Erica is saying is it is an elective so if you choose not to take it that's fine if you choose to take it we have then served both we have then served both sections of our community we now haven't just said this we're we're going to only serve this section that's my first thing the second thing is the um by taking that by scratching the whole thing and taking it all away after we've discussed with the students what they have heard and what they hear on the news what they hear and what they get taught through their families they can make their decision we are talking about seniors in high school whom in one year will be off

159to college and be doing looking at whatever they're doing and so we need to we need to give the students and the staff some credit and some um we are teaching our kids to think individually and preparing them to go off into the world and I can tell you from personal experience sometimes I feel by keeping my kids from even hearing the information and having to make a choice about that information I did them a disservice I know you and I we've talked about our human growth and development so sometimes not allowing them to hear it and then have the discussion and work it through is doing them a disservice because then when they do hear it or do are faced with it they don't know how to handle it so because it's the oldest

160kids the Juniors and seniors because it is one of our opportunities for them to get college credit which is what we are striving to do so that we can decrease College costs whatever sociology is one of those classes in college that you almost many colleges require it is that isn't that correct that it's a required elective um I don't know I think you'd find that it's a very common general education course so my experience at UW Whitewater is the academic advisor is that people would take a course called individual and society which is a introductory freshman course that's going to introduce these topics to kids who may not have heard about these topics from wherever they grew up Tom Tom you're an academic advisor I was noted so we're sending our kids more prepared in

161a class that they will probably be taking something like it there is a definitely a an option to opt in or opt out our teacher is aware of the the um communities concern for these topics so he is handling it in a way that the kids can pass their test without indoctrinating them so to say from from what he's teaching it's not like he's pushing it into in One Direction or other he's just giving them the information I just feel that we should give our students and our teachers the tools they need if we want to approve part of it and look if some of us who haven't read the curriculum want to look into it a little more and get the actual PowerPoint whatever because I don't think everyone has because if you had

162looked at it it's very very much there's not anything in there that's deep I think maybe then we could we could possibly come to a consensus next month what's queer Theory pardon me what's queer Theory I have no idea and you're voting on it that we teach it to our kids uh I don't if I may right it's right in there we are not doing that because we only choose we do not teach everything that's in that textbook so it says Define the option offshoots of conflict perspective and there are some lists there um of critical theory critical race Theory feminist Theory and queer Theory we looked at them at the time you were fine with them because they were definitions they were one sentence definitions they have metal and sitting conditions in the PowerPoint

163and that's all that they are dealt with and we saw the PowerPoint it was given to us and I know those of you who weren't on the board at the time were at a disadvantage you didn't have the opportunity to see the book but that has been approved so we do have to move forward from that for tonight's purposes and look at this curriculum um we do have a student here telling us it was done by definition um nothing I don't know malicious about it no deep discussion but that you needed to know the list of those five things to be able to take the CLEP exam and at the time this board voted that that was okay so now that we are looking at the learning objectives and this plan the curriculum can we

164look at the curriculum and approve that we're not we're not approving the textbook tonight we are approving five units that a teacher has spent time on that we gave him permission to go ahead and do because the book was already put into place the textbook being One Source there are other sources listed here that they use as well um I would Echo Cherry that we have done due diligence with this um the this lesson plan that we are approving tonight is in the packet so our role and our job as elected officials we've been elected to come here prepared at the meeting so we can't just say I didn't have a chance to look at it if you didn't and you don't feel prepared to vote then you should probably abstain my problem with the

165reading the book where kids are referencing is there's no it's pretty much the same white people are racist and they're the dominant group and rich people take all the money poor people have no opportunity to get ahead in life and that's totally false there's no inspiration in there for kids to look and say yes I can get a big piece of that pie it's all doom and gloom the rich stank poor people too bad for you that's all I read in the book I didn't read the whole book but the parts I was advised to read that's all I got from it yeah I understand I'll be honest I don't think it's terribly appropriate to tell people that aren't too abstain because they don't have the information if they weren't on the board because they

166didn't get the information or they weren't a part of it no no I'm saying the information is right here his opportunity if he doesn't agree with that book being used to make it not happen is right now it's actually not because that's not an action item yes a decision of the board has already been made the action item is not on the textbook correct the action item is on the lessons which he does we all hear in this room with our laptops do have the information available however he doesn't agree with that book being here that is unfortunately not part of the discussion he's on learning committee we can talk about that that next month but that is not what we're doing here tonight we have an agenda we have Robert's Rules of Order we

167have a process this is what we do we're not part of it though the book is part of where you're getting information from and that's part of the deal I'm not sure why this is complicated the book has been approved we're not talking about the book we are talking about these documents of five units that have been put together did you have something you wanted to share uh yes I did actually uh to those opposed I I'm not disagreeing with you in any way on any stances you may take of what is in the book but I I do believe you are placing uh a disproportionate amount of weight on the curriculum that students are taking as a high school student myself for our student I can confidently say I've never opened up one of

168the textbooks that we use and I can and I can also say that these people are just trying to memorize definitions to get some college credit I've spoke to students who have taken the class and many of them agree with you Mr Porter they simply do not care about any indoctrination that is supposedly happening in these books they don't care most of them didn't know what queer theory was when they first got the book and they probably still don't they're trying to memorize definitions for a college class and to be honest I think you're putting it as I said a disproportionate emphasis um the way these classes have in the minds of students yeah so again by my by not approving the curriculum tonight essentially what you're saying because the book has been approved so

169essentially what you're saying is use last year's curriculum and we can do that it's going to make things a little more challenging for Ryan Bice and for the staff and students if you're concerned about the book which has been approved just recently then then the then the correct process would be to have the learning committee again take a look at the book and and possibly start looking for another textbook for next year but not this year what again 10 days school starts and and this is an elective for juniors and seniors who are trying to earn college credit and that's not they're not all trying to earn college credits some might be interested in in sociology for a variety of reasons but I I don't even know what that looks like using last year's curriculum

170with this textbook I'm sure we can do it um but I again I would take a look at those curricular documents and see what's objectionable to that what you have in those curricular documents that you object to is that as simple as we can pull line items off of this and our students can still be successful I mean if they're given the book you go he could also say you know here's four things we didn't get to that you can read that could be on that test I I can't answer that you know Ryan they can electively read it and but I think if you see it on the test if if the text if you think the text is slanted what you probably want the teacher to do is to balance that out a

171little bit and make sure that he's given a neutral explanation uh for something like a white privilege or critical race Theory and I can't remember what else was mentioned but can can we just do the first part of this I think at minimum that would be is that possible and then we get can we get yes like I said there is a very little change because this is the same um textbook that was used before it's just an updated edition of it um and again because sociology changes and what we look at and talk about um as a culture changes uh the the book changes with that um and so again the first and second chapters uh have pretty much no change in them he didn't do a massive update to the curriculum on those

172chemical sections there is a very large portion of our community that does not agree with a lot of the stuff that's in here so we would be doing them a disservice those two all three of us were elected during these times where people are very very aware and they're becoming way more aware of what's being told to the kids and they're and they want they don't want a lot of it so can we I think there's if we have an opportunity to talk to the teacher and and find out how he's presenting this I can I can see the kids point of view where it's like I don't care I mean I think about it when I was in school I remember I mean how much do we really remember about the specifics of what

173we're taught I think he's right when he said we still want the credit well it's hard when we're asking one of our teachers to teach a Sociology class that students can get college credit for and he needs to give some definitions for things and leave it at that which I'm very confident he's doing um in order for them to do well on the test um it's a it's a difficult thing for a teacher to do to teach a class that we've said that we're going to teach in our high school but not teach it in a way that the students are going to do well on the test which is I think essentially what we're kind of saying if we peel off some of those definitions and don't even let the definitions in there I

174think we're essentially it's not about the definitions and what in in what the kids need to know it's more about I mean if you read the book it doesn't sound good so how that information is presented is and you keep in mind other people that we did look at multiple sociology books I I think we would have to in in just all realism I think we would have to go back and have him teach out of the old old Edition to not find updated sociology textbooks that tackle some of these issues when in regards to gender and race and if you were to take pieces of the curriculum or the textbook out on these subjects because you were uncomfortable it was uncomfortable for students to be learning about them then is there going to be

175taking their their only option will be to go to the textbook if if the teacher's not talking about it in class they they have that that is their second resource um what what we want you guys to understand as as the students is there's a there's a belief that there is a very considered effort to get you guys to think a certain way and there is a manipulation of words that people don't recognize I'll tell you a real quick story I my daughter came home with some schoolwork and I read through it it was just a handout and it talked about police and talked about what's happening with George Floyd and all that stuff and in the process of reading this thing it said that George Floyd or that the police officers were murderers in

176a CNN article said that the police officers murdered George Floyd now and when you think about it doesn't really say much but when when you look at the timeline in which that article was written none of them have gone through had gone through trial yet nothing had happened so they weren't murderers they had killed another person murder is a specific thing that happens that people are charged with and and they go to jail for you a lot of you can you can kill somebody and not be murder but they specifically use those words for for people to believe that these police officers were murderers prior to them standing in trial when I went to the when I went to the school and I talked to the teacher and the principal neither one of them even

177realized it these are adults that read through this thing didn't catch it if the adults aren't catching it because they're not aware of they're not they're not looking for it the kids absolutely aren't catching it so the reason I tell you that is because there's going to be a lot of things that people tell you that you don't realize is adjusting how you're thinking and when information is presented certain ways it leads you to it you just believe it moving forward and as parents school board members and all these and all of us our job is to try to avoid you being told what to think we want you to be told taught how to think which is which is a bigger deal they're they're also other people that want you to learn and want

178you to know what is out there and how to check out information and know what's right and what's wrong and you know we don't have one set of standards for everybody so the more knowledge it used to be that knowledge was power that was I grew up with that seems like that's going away but you have to learn I I think that uh while I completely understand your concerns for uh any ideologically charged messaging in education I equally think that the aim of the school board would be to improve performance and better prepare students for college and academic performance in this class requires the teaching of certain uncomfortable topics and it's not even the teaching it's really like someone has taken one of Mr vice's classes you are memorizing definitions you are regurgitating them on

179a on a college exam a CLEP exam that he doesn't make by the way yeah it's multiple choice you're just trying to memorize words I think everybody in here is absolutely in favor of you guys learning uncomfortable things the being you I have no interest in you my kids or any other kids being fed comfortable information it's the dialogue it's that's the it's the it's the way in which it's presented that is most important all these things the CRT I mean these are all real things that you guys are going to have to deal with like it or not you guys are here longer than us so all these things are they're real people are talking about them and it's happening so you have to know about it but when it's when it's presented to

180you as fact and not opinion or when when a book tells you that white privilege is a thing and whether you like it or not people aren't going to agree with it and people aren't going to acknowledge it and that is that is a that is something that's not a fact it's a belief we want you to we want it to be presented to you guys like it as it should be this is a thing and and this is what she and please do keep in mind I feel very strongly that Mr Bice does present it that way in the classroom as do I and I believe you're probably right the thing is the rest of the community that doesn't know that and that's what we're here to do is to make sure that the

181rest of the community is represented and at least has the opportunity to hear it see it or or understand if I can if I can say hey here's the thing there was a meeting on this when somebody emails me there was a meeting it was posted we all talked about it you didn't show up I'm comfortable with it and you know where I stand on most things I feel a lot better than if I didn't or if it's or if we didn't have the conversation or if we just trusted somebody was going to do the right thing if we talk to him and we understand them and I can say confidently no I talk to the guy I know what is where he's coming from and I know exactly what's going on or I believe

182I know exactly what's going on I can stomp that down a little bit easier than if I just went yeah we voted on it I think I'll probably do a good job I I we have to we have to have these conversations with with other people the people that voted for us and the people that put us here so we want to make sure that when we do talk to them or at least speaking intelligently and from an informed place but you have a student and an administrator telling you that he does teach it in a neutral fashion what's it going to take for you to believe them talking to him can I can I ask the students a question so so just so I'm clear on this you're going to call him in here

183is that too much to ask this is so believe it whether you acknowledge it or not this is one of the biggest deals in people's mind I understand no I understand then but you think that's too much to talking to the teacher that's teaching is too much to ask when on one of the biggest things that people are talking about it's too much to get the guy in the person in here talking that's teaching it to the kids I mean if we had cameras in our classrooms problem solved we have no we have no problem because people can see but the fact is we don't and all these people here all anybody here is from the media from whichever side they're listening to is that teachers are indoctrinating their kids which I understand most of

184ours aren't thank you so we're not batting acknowledging that at least sure we're not Banning a thousand but I think we're probably better than 99 percent of Industries out there so then I think after curriculum no it doesn't matter what I believe doesn't matter because there's how many other thousands of parents out here there's we have 5 000 kids in the in the district that means there's a there is thousands of parents that are hearing a message and they want to be they want to know that what when they send their kids to school they're not being indoctrinated and having somebody come in and talk to us about it or getting a better grasp on it or at least giving them giving them the opportunity it's it's not an insult to him it's not saying

185hey I don't trust you it's saying hey let's be open let's be open to let's talk let's let people talk and at least give them the opportunity to hear what you're what you're saying everybody it's it's same as text you send a text to somebody you get to interpret it however you want everybody gets to interpret what what is being said how they want when the guy comes in and they talk and they can hear them talk everybody calms down it is not that big of a deal for people then when it just took a conversation I don't think that's unreasonable so I'm not questioning his moving on here I think the transparency has always been there no doubt I didn't read the book so I will be guilty of that but listen to our

186student student reps here um I appreciate what they're saying and I don't want anybody lose college credits because they couldn't memorize something or pass a class I I have as I have the same feelings about some of these issues but you know what it's I think at this point we have to do something we have to move on and we did approve the book so I think maybe we're punishing some students for not from me not doing my job that's what I'm thinking can I just see how far like definitions go can you guys Define what a minority group is Advantage which happens pretty regularly in it's naturally how um socially yes societies operate with there's naturally always a group that ends up being higher up in power and then there's the minority group which

187is the group that isn't as powerful socially so it's not with numbers that is a perfect example of what we're talking about what I'm talking about okay I also don't know that it's a minority group this isn't really fair either no I was just asking this is perfectly they're smart though no no no and she did a fine job she just didn't give you what you were wanting which is I think the point of what we're trying to get away from is we don't want to feed and ask for like just regurgitate that's like where vidoso before we're trying to teach our students how to think not necessarily what to think and I do want to go back to the point that in July and in August of 2021 the learning committee did talk about

188critical race Theory and the sociology book we did have the presentation and information from the teacher we did talk about controversial issues and what that policy looks like and the board that was the board at the time did our due diligence we spent months on this we all as a board unanimously came down on a CRT a critical race Syria controversial topic policy that we stated loud and clear at the full board meeting that August of 2021 so last year and we are here to represent the parents and the staff Vito the board that was sitting when it was time to vote which it did include you did vote on that tonight A year later we are voting on something else I don't disagree that this is all challenging I mean that's why we looked

189at the controversial topic policy because this is tough I don't I agree with you guys however the point of policy and the board following our policies and our procedures and our agenda is that we keep moving forward based on policy unfortunately tonight our agenda says our action item is to vote on these documents which does not necessarily include the pre-approved textbook it includes the standard work the academic work the curriculum update that's before us so I don't know if we feel as though we can re-vote after discussing it I don't know if we have to amend the motion to approve units one and two because these topics aren't hit until three and four like I don't know where we're at I really got to say something here yeah go ahead I'm dying to say something

190what she just did was exactly prove Dale's Point she talked about how minorities are disadvantaged in this and that if you look at this circle right here there are one two three four five women and one two three four five six seven eight men so technically if we go by what a the definition what I mean I think we can all agree that the women are the minority in this group correct that that that's uh the definition logical definition what she gave was the sociological definition so we're not talking about majority minority numbers for voting purposes we're talking about a minority group in sociology it's very different why is the minority group in oh I just don't understand sociology no sociology is rough I've heard some of the chapters I'm like I'm more confused now

191than I was when I started there are minority groups there are minority groups when you talk about sociology that are actually a majority of the people so think about South Africa during apartheid and so a very small mind uh small number of people wait wait you're about to say it wait a minute you were about to say it right very small minority small number of people which is a minority I mean a minority number wise but not sociological wise and I'm probably not even doing a very good job of a smaller number of people apartheid under apartheid in South Africa the white population control discriminated uh against the larger group of um black South Africans but the black South Africans were the minority they were the minorities sociologically because they were being discriminated against they

192weren't allowed to serve in government all sorts of discrimination and again I used to teach this but it was 30 years ago and I apologize I can't remember everything anymore oh yeah now it's completely different but but what we can't change either is what sociology is in the class that's approved is what we're asking at one point when the class was approved probably our teacher to teach Stephanie is that this class has taught every in the whole United States maybe where it is taught to what degree is taught in different parts of the country correct correct and the fact that we brought this class in and decided to do a club exam with it which is is saying to the students we're going to teach it at the level um that we're going to allow

193you to get college credit for it so um can I take the class I think you have digital access actually to the books like to make a motion that we vote on this curriculum again I don't know if that's an appropriate way to go I second that okay the fact that we had a pretty good discussion about it and I think the people know we're transparent because we can at least talk about it um we can vote again fail you want to vote again okay or I'll call well are you okay I think because the motion failed we simply need to make it again curriculum presented to us this with the understanding that it's taught that the specific things that were discussed are taught as definition zone I'll second that okay I have a motion

194and I have a second but I think we should do roll call Erica Connor yes Joel Frederick yes Gail Porter no art Schneider yes Peter Schwartz no Carolyn Simon no Greg berts yes okay can I just add one more thing before we move on um and that is that that um I did bring the the book to Student Learning committee and and specifically say to read chapter uh to read the chapters on race and gender and as we're building curriculum um I am going to ask that that everybody takes part in doing that um because we are not trying to slide something in under the radar um specifically those were the chapters that I knew if there was going to be opposition that there would be opposition with and so um it's it's fair to

195our teachers and our students that when I'm bringing stuff to for the curriculum process that we're taking part in that so that we're not going back after a teacher has spent an entire summer and possibly yanking the work that he's done can we still send this out to those students that signed up for this class their parents we absolutely can do a letter and just make sure that they know and I would like to for us to call out because this is a large document parents are going to go whatever sociology you know that the the controversial items that are in there just so they're aware and I think it's totally fine to call it out like these are the things that are in there this is how it's going to be covered if there's

196the teacher has a way that he wants to word it or if the letter from the teacher or a letter from yushan just as they're aware we will work on that letter and I will show that with the board yeah before September one I have absolutely no question that you guys are trying to do the right thing here by no means I think that the teachers or you were trying to slide something in or do but it's important to me that you know that for our team absolutely I'm 107 on board with you guys and what you guys are doing but you guys have to realize that we have this other we have this these a lot of people behind us that very loud voices so when we come up with these controversial topics that

197are that are very very much in the Forefront of what our what our culture is talking about what's going on if we can come up with a way of doing this to get them involved or to it's it's thinking outside the box but this is if this was what it needs to if this is what needs to happen for people to at least have the opportunity to be put at ease and what from what everything that they're hearing on and all the all the radio stations and all the newscasts and all the different things and all the social media I think that's our job at least with the most highly controversial topics I just want to say as bit a part of this district for six or seven years there's been a lot of 9-0

198votes and eight one votes and this was debated here and I haven't seen this a whole lot so I I think it was a lot of good conversation and right off the bat student reps you guys jumped right in and you guys getting out you guys think good standing old thank you I'm here that's your role you guys did good I've been here for a while that's never happened so good on you guys yeah anytime any confrontation comes up or don't don't shy away from it that's awesome that's how you that's how you get get things done is through confrontation and through talking about it so good on you guys okay we're gonna move on thank you so we're looking at your court policy 167.3 public comment at board meetings all right on August 8th

199um there was a possible revision discussed for the public comment at board meetings specifically the board was looking at language that would allow comments to be made on topics that do not do not appear on the board or an agenda or committee agenda and so what you have below is the words for the specific Edition but then I also put it in into the uh to the policy so it was situated within the other language so the way it reads is on a quarterly basis a second citizen common period will be added to the monthly full board meeting agenda District residents parents of a District student may speak to the board on any topic during this 30-minute time period participant statements will be limited to three minutes or less I'd like to make motion we

200approve this a second okay so just to be clear and to reiterate I mean this is something that Dale had brought up that we discussed about having so once a quarter at the end of a full board meeting we'll have citizens comments available again that a citizen can bring forward any topic that they're interested in discussing that didn't have to be an action item to be able to make sure that we are keeping ourselves open and available um to hear those topics so pending this passes we will make sure that on those agendas it is listed this month public comments available for the second time on any open topic and that hopefully we'll have some people take us up on that the second half sorry do we have and look for public comment right now

201I think the policy is that in our board policy of how a public comment can be made because right now public can only comment on the action item is that correct so is that somewhere or could we put that in a readable place for people so they know how to get involved so it is on this policy and we actually do leave the policy on the table too when people Chuck check in I think we have it on it's it's um their website as well under how to um so it's available but of course you always have to look for it a little bit but as long as it's available any questions or just oh wait I don't have a motion yet sorry there you go oh motion okay any other discussion yes sorry I

202got all wrapped up in talking any other questions okay all those in favor say aye aye any opposed motion carries and then we have our fund balance designation all right hopefully this one will go a little quicker here than the others but here we go let's give it a try all right fun balance that we're looking to uh the finance committee is making a recommendation to the full School Board to designate uh 992 200 as a signed a fund balance rather than leaving it as unassigned fund balance for those a handful of things we uh talked about the budget hearing of one-time costs we're committing to the current school year I'll make a motion we transfer that money as Thomas outlined second Carolyn second any question or discussion all those who in favor say aye

203aye aye any opposed great motion carries superintendent report just one quick item so we had a call from a parent that was concerned that we don't have a high school graduation date set yet and I I can't remember if was there an email from the first they said they'll work on it really quickly yes I did talk to the parent and I just want to make sure that this board is comfortable with the process that we're using so we cannot pick a graduation date until Major League Baseball releases the schedule for next year because we have to have graduation when the Brewers are on the road so we can't we can't do anything until that point cool yeah we're good we get it kids love it apparently we get it so in the past we've

204done surveys the surveys have always come back overwhelmingly in support of staying at Miller Park or American Family field now and that's from Seniors themselves and from their parents and so as long as you guys are good with us waiting that's what we will continue to do okay uh just to add really quickly we both actually did like polls on social media and it was overwhelmingly in favor of going to American Family field just guys talk about being budget neutral on those surveys that's what I want to know about their concern yeah what's that right back over there is that something we might have to talk about though as far as uh don't they keep kind of moving that so so the price of renting American Family field has increased and the cost of selling

205the tickets the additional tickets that families can buy does not cover that difference so that's trying to say it's horror I love I love it it's awesome but eventually yeah and if a parent was asked to pay an extra five dollars for extra right we don't have to go they'd be throwing money at them so we can we can bring that back to finance and Facilities I guess that would be financing facilities in the near future but I just wanted to make sure that your support for returning the American field was still there and if that's the case then we'll continue yes okay thank you everybody and that's all I have I was just speaking for me not for everybody else because I was told not to do that um no we're set I am

206willing to entertain a motion to return second no you have to be the first I said I make the motion to adjourn okay

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