11132023 Regular BOE Meeting

001okay 6 o' so call to order and um I see no applications for public comment so we'll move right into the uh rooll call and pledge the road call reflect that all board members are present and we do have a so let's go with of United States of America [Music] stands um reports we'll have uh Mr B give the calendar agenda oh yeah consent agenda I wonder so um we we have we have the consent agenda in front of you I'm open to a motion to uh accept the consent agenda as present I'll make that motion move by Mandy second second by Terry all in favor say I I say no carries uh so now we move to Scott's reports and he has three of them the calendar the monthly celebrations and the district administrator

002thank you good evening board members and guests to our November meeting uh and as Chris mentioned the calendar um it's always very full but the months of November and December really take highlight of of many school activities just a compliment uh over the this past several days with our veterans program that took place I know some board members were present thank you for your attendance and our veteran student staff and community that attended as well if you're able to take in our fall High School Musical uh many of you were there as well a tremendous program Again by our directors and students and staff in our community that supported our fall music C Joseph and the Technic C dream code so excellent job uh other highlights of our calendar today we had staff professional development

003day uh tonight's our meeting on this Thursday board members if Welling and able to attend our National Honor Society will have an induction ceremony at 6:30 at the high school I will be bringing in the new class of individuals to support National Honor Society followed by our uh Thanksgiving break from the 22nd to 24th with our special board meeting on the 27th the month of December um just I'm just going to highlight the first item if you haven't had an opportunity to attend the annual magical Feast at the high school put on our fine arts department I would I would strongly encourage it it's it's a medieval Feast that uh you'll have a COR game hand and other fixings if you will to go through with song and dance from our students it is a

004tremendous event where our students are are performing if you have interest or want to know more about it I would highly recommend that and then following that a l of Winter band concerts and Choir concerts that'll be taking place um at the high school in advance we want to thank our high school staff Mr Yi and his team that open their doors to our school Community uh as they come in to utilize the auditorium it's really sets a nice toll to have all of our events at the high school auditorium any questions on any of the upcoming events from November December just time past events there was a great veteran State program yeah at last uh Friday last Friday correct certain really proud of our middle school and what they do there and does a

005good job pulling everything together I think uh they sure did it was a great idea to put a sign downtown whoever came up with that idea I love it awesome our monthly celebrations again recognizing our students at our Elementary's middle Intermediate Middle School and High School for demonstrating the character traits and actions and behaviors which we strive for within our school Community congratulations to all and well as our staff involved that are promoting those character traits and behaviors in setting the example for which we wish our students to follow through on um with their monthly and celebrations I my a superintendent report several items to talk about uh this is typically the month where we mention publicly uh the school board election timeline um within your materials is the noted timeline for recognition on the

00628th we have the published notice that'll be part of the press our publication on um and then into December uh January and April accordingly uh this year we have three pre-board members where their terms are expiring Katy baton Mark rman and Terry Wagner um Joel were you able to touch base with our board members on what you needed to accomplish today after the meeting after the meeting I know Mrs Wilner um we have some information for you uh concerning the election but again that is the election timeline that we recognize uh recently Wisconsin Association of school boards at their fall Regional meetings um Mark and Chris and I uh attended over in Nina and that that session they they take time to recognize board members from around the area that participate in in different events

007and improve professional development and skill training and John and Mark were recognized um through level one recognition with John and level two recognition uh for Mark and that's their active involvement in participating in events and programming to grow skill sets to be the best board member uh board member can be and as well during that session we had a legislative updates and reviews and um and we took in a session on open records and what that all pertains to as well so congratulations to to Market John uh School Board convention um for those interested January 17th to the 19th in Milwaukee over 100 Years of Wisconsin Association School Board conventions and if you have interest we'll follow the same protocol as in the past please contact Jill and we'll get you registered for that event

008um if you are interested or want to know more about it many of our board members have attended uh feel free to ask myself or Joe some questions if you have specifics you don't have to attend every day uh if you can be there for a day or part of a day there's flexibility built into that in your interest uh as those agenda topics come up uh two more items just to cover uh this is an item uh it's more informational for board members um B and and rer are legal Associates that support our district they've been with us now for a little over a year and I was able to talk to Jim Macy our Primary School attorney that support supports us and um interest from the board if you would have a representative

009from my Breon coming over just to give a legal update like you did last year maybe around this time frame or not as part of our relationship with them uh they're willing to do that um do you have interest or whatnot you can share that with myself or Chris and and then I guess that next thing would be looking at a potential dat time where that might fit in the relationship to setting up where we could all meet um to do is there by chance any interest in something like that yes I think so I think so did we did we schedule a before a regular one last time I can't remember I stand I think it was a stand I couldn't remember how much time we alled yeah and so in December we have

010just the the one meeting on the 13th 11th the 11th okay the 11th um so there may be some flexibility in December or ifs after the first of the year or whatever the board sides are f with important um well I have just one suggestion I think it's a great idea uh the last time we did it he brought one or two others which almost doubled or tripled the cost of doing it so Jim is most knowledgeable and I would suggest but you know you guys weigh in on it we we say well you come by yourself and if we have questions that you need to get your staff involved in you know get back to us and writing on those questions but he's you know I think uh we can save money by narrowing

011down the number of people that he sends out rates I agree so what I can do is maybe we'll send out like a Google poll or an email to each of you to have some potential dates and if you select out which one is First Choice second Choice their choice and see if we can get a consensus on the date and I can work with Chris um to work on setting that up and uh I guess as we go forward then we would do a little prep and plan before that but that might be an opportunity to test all Katie's idea of meeting on a Wednesday because I think that's what we did the last time too I don't think we met with them on a on a Monday we met I thought it was

012like a Wednesday night or something maybe um yeah see what his availability is fa and lastly just recogniz in the b212 extra effort uh to our three individuals within our district that are supporting and our choir educational instruction education we at our Intermediate Middle School Kevin Spindler Julie gothier and lanne rubo uh our sincere thank you to each one of them for supporting our fifth and sixth seventh and eth grade choir instruction um and keeping our students active and moving forward in choir so our sincere thanks to those individuals any questions for okay hearing none we will move to Business Services Mr Mar okay good evening board members there's three items on my directory repard tonight uh the first is just a general note from Bo service if any of you are ever interested in

013coming to lunch at one of the schools just to see how that goes uh let us know they would like to invite you this is not a new invitation they've offered in the past we haven't always had board members uh take us up on that but if you're interested let us know and it would make sense to try and organize that as a group so we don't come as a single T you can come and see ask some questions and Monica would be available for questions so if that's something that you're interested in you can let Mr Black Mr Mar to know and we'll definitely coordinate that you to come schools to each is Monica usually at one facility okay and then just in general you'll hear a lot about food service this year because

014it is an RFD year so we will definitely be having food service on the agenda throughout the year and just to let you know students have taken uh surveys on food service in our parent Guardian survey as well so definitely will be hitting the Food Service discussion quite a bit this year the second topic is on facility committee meeting we had 10 topics that uh the three committee members discussed along with Mr Black and myself I put a little bit of a summary there of each topic you can see that a few of them will be coming forward at Future meetings for potential board approval and some of them were just updates in nature as always we will continue to update you from the discussions that happen at the most committee levels and then the

015third item on the directory report was related to Total compensation we had two meetings over the last month uh since our last board meeting and you'll hear a lot about uh those topics tonight uh in our formal agenda look forward to consider do any of you have any questions on any of the topics in the directory report where did it land with Mr slma meeting with you guys as far as it was a capital Improvement or I mean I didn't know the I'm not on that committee I was just curious yes so several topics were on there we distributed to each of the committee members we probably took a good half hour 45 minutes and talked about all of them uh there was no formal recommendation that came forward with some of the topics I

016we can share that um list with any of you I se the agenda I was curious just s like a prioritization you know on his end from Mr slma yeah I think they all are important to to him he didn't rank them in the order that um he said from one to eight like this is number one he just you know did a good job of identifying uh some potential enhancements for our Athletics and curricular programs and want to share them with the committee and you go from there to hopefully strategize how some of those may or may not become a part of our capital projects plan and then that really you know dub tailed into one of our other agendas topics is as part of our kpi we are looking at our longterm Capal

017projects plan and re formulating that of where we've been when we passed the last referendum in 201718 okay we accomplished so much in the last know five six years are there some other things that the committee and the board want to focus on as well okay thank you next is Mrs Martin and the people Services report I have three things on my board agenda report tonight um first one is Child Development days that is the child F process that we were required to do several times a year for the special ed Department the most recent one occurred on October 12th and we had over 30 families come in and participate that always takes place at Lincoln Elementary School and it's kind of a playbase assessment where our school psychologist our speech and language psychologists our

018speeches our school nurse everybody is in there um assessing the students to determine if we are interested in bringing them in for an evaluation for our Early Childhood Program um we were able to pick up several kids in that process and that just kind of get gives them a head start on um accessing Early Childhood Services before they would enter 4K our next Child Development days is again going to be at Lincoln and that's coming up in January my second event on the bo agenda if you want to see some pictures here Percy has really been on the Move lately with the Bulldogs of character and kudos to Jen Tate and Molly Brown who are are bu the character advisers this year um the pictures you're seeing here are from The Haunted Trails night um

019Park and wreck had to kind of call an audible and change up that evening because it was so wet and muddy leading up to that event that week so they kind of did a reverse parade like the Chamber of Commerce had done a year or so earlier uh where the kids stayed in their vehicles with the parents and they drove through and got to see our students in Percy interacting with the exhibits and you can see some of the pictures there um and they were able to get their candy and see all the displays that way uh Percy has C couple big events coming up he will be down at the th Farm um decorating trees for the holidays and then the next time you will see him is at the Winter Wonderland parade on

020um December 1st and the school district and the Bulldogs character always puts a float in that parade as well so that's coming up here soon my third agenda item is we are about to start access for El's testing in the district and the bilingual staff spent all day today um during the in service preparing for that assessment they all got certific certified and renewed their training to be test prors for that testing window and that testing window is from December 4th to February 2nd this year um and there are approximately 100 bilingual students that we are um scheduled to assess to determine if they're going to graduate from our services or if they have a continued need to stay in the services do you have any questions one thing I don't have on my board

021report is um the inservice day today is the one inservice day that we bring in all the educational assistance and Pa of Professionals for training um they had eight hours of training today some of them renewed their CPR training some of them renewed their nonviolent Crisis Intervention training today but for those who were certified in both those things they stayed in the auditorium and we had six different speakers that came in and talked about with them about various topics and that was very well received and it was um we had some wonderful presenters that came in to me that um and I had previously shared out that agenda with the board thank you thank you next we'll have Mrs C in the uh teaching and learning report good evening board members um the first is

022just a general reminder on when report cards are sent home sometimes um there's some confusion um much of ours are digital um and our high school only do been at the semester second item is the instructional committee um at this instructional committee our High School uh had submitted a request just to change our computer science course from a year one course to two semester courses um not only to uh remove some barriers from students on enrolling um but also to evolve the curriculum to be a bit a bit more appropriate for where student skills are coming in so we used to spend a year on exploring um technology and kids are coming in beyond that so um a big um support from Samantha cable who always is connected to our community um in computer science

023and she has just uh really collected the data to support the need for students who want to start at that basic level um to compact that into one semester and then getting into game design that's one of our most um requested areas where students are looking in that and probably one of those ones where they think they want to do it until they figure out what it actually means they're doing um and so knowing that that's a big thing Mr he attended that part of the session also to talk about um the growth in Esports and the other impact it would not change change fiscally um the budget and so I'm just sharing it with you that according to our process in adding our changing courses since it's not a new course and it's just

024changing it would be reflected in our December approval of the course description guide but also wanted to give you a chance to ask either myself or Mr y if you had questions about that second thing that we talked a little bit too uh was about how those career Pathways were and as we look at our enrollment how we continue to engage students in all areas so that both college and Creer ready um talking about how those clusters also have a lot of cross interaction between um technology The Sciences some experiences School of Enterprise marketing all of those the cert certifications um that are allowed for students to get before they graduate either through youth apprentiship CNA licensing we spent a little bit of time about talking about how to further develop um the track for

025education so talked a little bit about that coming up at our next agenda so we're going to kind of hone in on that to talk about what can we do first of all when they're still in school and then how are we also recruiting when they are in postsecondary placement for education to make sure that we have a good education pool coming in and then the biggest um thing that we spent a lot of time in is related to the homework that I have in front of you so um one of the things that I anticipate coming up have a slideshow in front of you related to understanding the state school report card the timeline never works well for us um the state will release the public report card on November 14th which is right

026in between both of our board meetings and so I feel always that you guys are kind of caught with the media reporting things and other things out there and then we kind of are fumbling a little bit before we get to our second board meeting where I'll walk through those things and then also give you some of our own information from that what I'm asking is that you do a little bit of just looking through some of those things to ground yourself in the fact that that measure is normative that that really is just something that we're looking at as a jump off point for us to then dig deeper into our local data and remind you that there's been a lot of information going through that with our teams and everything else I'll go

027into greater detail but again on November 14th they just pulled a embargo off and the newspapers will report wherever they are and they'll take that interpretation without necessarily understanding the background behind all of those things just like weight is a normative bell curve we all know that when we get on the scale it's going to spit out a number and we might argue with that number is a place to start for us to ask other questions how much water did I drink yesterday what are those kind of things that I can maybe do I really have boots on hopefully all of those kinds of things that we can kind of um look at that but we want to also understand how it uh impacts that in our school and our kpis again I always get

028questions about understanding that so I'm also going to look when we put on our notices this same slideshow that gives the people who are interested in Greater dat data and understanding the basic information so they can find that um it is great to know where we are as compared to the state but again this curve is set every year based on how everybody in the state of Wisconsin performs so if you do have questions before our next meeting I would love for you guys to look through this slideshow and make sure that I do include it in my presentation in our second meeting so if there are things that are confusing or things that you'd like me to highlight or local data trends that you'd like me to include in that report I'd like it

029to be meaningful to you I have a question on that do you remember in our committee meeting we were talking about like um as far as U public relations and like stories that we could tell you had mentioned I think CU I had mentioned okay we're not trying to crank out every student that gets to yaleo or Harvard but more of like the local attention on what we are doing to move our own needle on what's important do you want to just like touch on that because I was I thought that was a good message yeah I I was mentioning that those front pieces like we take all of those measures and that's to jumping off point but some of the things that we have to make local decisions on are are we going to

030be an AP School or are we going to be at dual credit school and that's a conversation that the high school had pretty often and we really know that the percent of students that are going straight to work or to the tech or to a foure if they have dual credit they get one pay for their Buck that's not included in the score it's on page 10 um so again if you just take the score and say oh so and so's doing better in in this that or the other well they're prioritizing being a Notre Dame or a or a College Prep School or whatever those things are so looking at some of that depth to know where we are our goal is to always be at or above that state average because every year

031they're res setting the score so if all of you guys took the test last year and didn't do well you might have had a really poor score but still scored pretty high if we all did really really well you might have had a different pair but it's what's inside that score that's there when your kid brings home the the test and they say I got a b or a c you're a de you don't just stop at that grade you look and say well what are those things that are in there and some of the influences that we talked about were um we talked about absences and Katie said um you know we could say that students aren't going to get excused absences for taking a trip with their family to Florida to try to

032combat that because in our absence score they include both excused and unexcused and that was when is it ding at 10 what we get at a certain number and that's on one of the slides and have to kind of look through that so it's a percent of the time that you're attending as our local benefits and everything else we know family is important we have a lot of of different things that are there it's understanding what that score means and then making those decisions where we're going from those so I think that's really important to say it still tells us where we are it still tells us you know I'm going to tell you right now different school districts don't we just said it was the news today um Lex CCO canceled school on the

03317th staff why local no staff because they're going to state for something and it's opening day of deer hunting and they don't have enough staff to run school that day by canceling school that day is not going to count against them for attendance because it's not a reportable day now do you see what I'm saying so there's all these little intricacies of that um so lots to know if you can do a little bit of that background and have those questions either to me so I can cover them during that presentation or again so we spend more time talking about our local data and less about how the formula works we also talked a lot about the um similarities between the school report card in the budget we're never going to understand the school rep

034the school report card to the level that the people who are doing the school report card do because its formulas for each session some things are on threeyear average so one thing you are going to notice is everyone in the state went down everyone in the state because it's a three-year average and they lost one of the years of data that was preco attendance was much higher preco a lot of other things were higher preco we had some significant adjustments after Co colleges stepped asking for just act some of those other impacts so last year we had two pre-co years and one after coid this year we have one pre-co and two after we all know our score next year is going to probably drop again in the state okay we still have the likelihood

035to have those bands the same but when you're talking about a threee average you're not just talking about how the students performed last year you're talking about how they compared to the kids that were behind that and then also looking at the percent with declining enrollment so our goal is not to understand how the statisticians are making all of those numbers work it's our goal is to take that as a starting point and say what do I wonder about these what are some local things that can complement or support and what are we going to do about those the other piece to keep in mind is that all of the data is things that does the school has known much sooner than the curve we haven't known the grade of what we got from the

036state but that's what our sell data Retreats were on that's what our spring needs assessment has been on as soon as we have student data like attendance like achievement like all that your administrators your plc's and your teachers are working through that data to decide what they're going to do it so you've already seen some of those actions in our kpi development and in our plan on page and in our PLC goals um that covers both those two sections on that are RBA um I gave you a little bit of a nuts and bolts on RBA and the reason why I bring that up is sometimes we forget about that partnership remember we do have a digital Charter run through RBA I want to just really commend both Brett picker and jacine Sher for their

037um engagement in taking on that role this year it's new and they've really tapped into a few more of those opportunities I hope second semester that maybe they can come and do a topic summary just to share but a couple highlights although we have 21 full-time enrollments we have over 100 we have 88 students who have actually had custom engagement activities um and 76 different student serves because um Brett has actually encouraged us to use some of our online engagement through what they call Kaleidoscope to have students be able to do leadership um breakout activities on certain topics and things like that for the cost of $350 we got the entire course that he can for that to any student who's offered and engaged in some of those opportunities and setting them on those field

038trips is the gift talented at a younger level or is that throughout all grades CL that is a gifted in talented is usually The Sweet Spot is third through uh six is kind of like that sweet spot where we are at because they don't have electives and things like that okay but that's the format that he's using to continue to get that going and with the number of Engagement activities that and the attendance last year having happened during bog time and things like that when kids don't have to get rides and things like that seem he's still doing it and then the last one is the state of Wisconsin is going to be requiring us to just update a page on our website to say where our library plan plan is um and so if

039you notice uh on our website it's already there um but next meeting our Librarians will be coming to present to you just so that you can see a little of what that's going on just like our Tech plan and everything else they meet annually to review what's going on but now that the state is collecting um the fact that we you know what is going on they're kind of resetting kind of that Benchmark they will be presenting on on what's going on in our libraries and highlighting how things have happened in the last five years so everything from how they pivoted during Co to what we're continuing to do to keep the one to one um initiative happening in some of the other growth areas that they'll be working on so I wanted to let

040you know that coming up all right sorry I took that thank you thank you Mr SE and we will go on to the finance report Mr Mar he uh a few vouchers that I highlighted for the month no construction as you know in the middle school project well Pacer county is the payment for the sugar wood parking lot you remember when we walked up there when we did site visit after the school year began there was some questions about you know how do this go and I didn't have the invoice yet but as I shared there were some soft spots that they hold some additional fill in to try and you know protect the Integrity of the surface being put down so that final invoice from them was $8,499 your amount originally started at 111

041520 so then additional just say $7,000 was for that additional work that would still would have been less than the board was considering at that time for Northeast Asal so I just I want to make sure that I brought that back up because that was consider discussion item at the board at that time then Masters is also additional hbac equipment that is at Sugar Bush Elementary um know what I wanted to highlight is we've started to take our line of credit draws through the November 8th period we drew $1.6 million on that line of credit our net position our C position as of November 8 was $212,000 and we'll have to take a draw again this week we have our November 15th called beable run and this Friday so this all goes to share that

042the timing of our revenues and expenditures doesn't always meet if you look at the top of that page our funds received to date were 3.3 million but our expenditures have been $9 million so that's why we need to take a draw the line of credit and why I share our fund balance is important because it helps us not borrow but that's just we have to do it this time of the year were there any other questions about any of the vouchers or receipts hearing none I'm open to a motion to approve expend in the amount of 1,871 93092 as per the list of November 9th John has made the motion second it seconded by Mark and roll call vote K Batton yes Mar rman yes John hman yes H Scher yes Terry wager yes Wills

043yes Chris Maron yes so we record receipts from the receipt register of November 9th 2023 in the amount of 1,926 15762 anything else uh Joe no sir okay move on to unfinished business and um the only unfinished business item is the second reading of a number of policy changes that we ran through the first reading of um last at the last meeting um I'm open to a motion to accept those and then we'll open for discussion move by Terry Hol okay um discussion thought hearing none we'll move it to a vote all those in favor of accepting these changes as presented uh signify by saying I I I say no you have to mark that absent from the you have to mark that John is absent from the vote oh John is abent from the

044notice that I so um we'll move to um new business and uh we have first the revie here he comes yes for for the finance or no for the poliy CH okay so now we got new business um uh and po potential approval of health insurance renewals of for 2024 and that is for calendar year 2024 everything we usually do is fiscal year beginning July 1 but insurance uh quotes always come in for the calendar so um turn that over to Mr maror Mr BL sure I can start us talk thank you Chris and as mentioned with our potential approval of health insurance I want to thank the the compensation committee before we get into a deeper Dialogue on our in-depth conversations that we had when we were discussing this year's renewal process um for

045our community that's with us tonight a lot of detailed conversations went into looking at a program and we'll hear greater detail about our our anticipated renewal actual renewal and then the recommendation to come forward for the board to consider tonight um we're very proud to have a strong plan to support our um our staff that utilize our our benefit plan and um action tonight potentially will lead to that same Integrity of our plan as we move forward so tonight we have Joe and then Jamie Gilson from USI that will share the the detail of where we are Jo okay uh just to kind of kick us off um there's a lot of information out in the packet about health insurance and really that's meant to give all of you as much information as you would

046like to digest it also is available for any um anyone to view on our website and look at I don't think we're going to go through every single page today it's really to try and summarize where we started where we are coming forward tonight with a recommendation so that way we're able to explain where we would go next if the board uh approves uh the recommendation tonight and as we shared at our last meeting uh health insurance roval is always about this time of the year we look at the information we receive from who are area is at that time and look for the total compensation committee to make a recommendation for the full board to consider and then we go out to all of our buildings and share that information with staff so they

047are knowledgeable of what the board approves and we feel very strongly about going to the buildings and being in front of staff so they can ask us questions and you know hear from us rather than here's a piece of paper you need to enroll and you need to turn this in as soon as possible I think it helps that um we've been doing this for a long time it helps Staff feel that there is an education opportunity inside of our health insurance Med so as we shared at the last meeting uh the the utilization of our plan is very high and if there would not have been a rate cap in place uh the renewal would have been uh 58.7% or for every dollar that's paid in in premum A1 58 is being paid out

048so with the 38% and then the 58% we took that back to the committee and really shared our we got to be looking at some processing of these plans and how to move forward to fit within the parameters of our budget that we have and we feel with our discussions back and forth where USI was going with Robin Health Partners and and then what we brought back to the total compens compensation committee we're in a good position to make a recommendation tonight that fits within our budget and what that would be is to offer um a plan that's called a robin Focus plan as the base plan for our employees to pick from but not remove any plans from that selection process so again just to repeat that right now we have Robin Broad and

049Robin focused with both the traditional deductible and a high deductible and those are the nuts and bolts we go to staff and say all right here's the plan here's the deductibles the co Insurance the coopay how it all works we're still going to offer you the same plans but the phase plan that the board would uh contribute to is under the robin Focus plans and when we go out to staff we would share okay if you want to stay in the broad plan you can do that but it's going to cost you more than it would if you would switch to the Rin Focus plan in that second page of your the third page of the topic summary right after the topic summary it really shows what that means because in Green in the package

050it shows what the employee contribution would be for staff and just to give you an example if you're a person who is in the robin broad High deductible plan and you want to stay in that plan because the network that you go to for the providers that you are seeing that are inside that Robin broad plan you would pay $48.30 more for the year so you divide that out between their paychecks just use 26 pays for example it's about over $15 a paycheck and we say okay that's what if you need that plan you'll have to do that's no deductible change to that plan if you are in the robin um traditional deductible plan under the broad Network there would definitely be a lot more cost to do that so part of the discussion is

051we feel know that the high deductible plan is a great plan for staff and utilizing the HSA is a good option for staff however we feel that if you want to be under traditional deductible plan and working through our budget we also were able to increase those deductibles um and yes there's a deductible increase and that would add a lot more to your cost but if you really want the traditional deductible plan that's a choice when Jamie comes up in a little bit she's going to talk a little bit about the benchmarking study that's in front of your um your tables and was also in your packet but we still feel like it's a really high quality option for our staff so let me just back up again and say yes there's a lot of

052stuff in there what do I need to know as a board member with the rate cap of 12% we know that you weren't going to pay any more than 12% as a total insurance package but our budget was less than that so we tried to figure out all right how do we work through a process to make sure that the budget impact was smaller and also worked within the rap language that's how we arrived at the robin Focus plan and a lot of people took the robin Focus plan last year we had 41 people under the high deductible plan and we had um 14 under the traditional deductible plan so you can see staff members took that option last year and they will still have that option this year they decide well a focus plan

053wasn't for me you're going to end up paying more so our whole point of going to the meetings is to share all right here's what the plans are and here's the cost as a board and as a committee we talked about you know our budget cost was a little over $3 million last year if every single person um chose the robin focused hid it up to a plan it would be um on that page you can see on the bottom and 3.64 million as the cost we don't know if that's what everybody is going to do but that looks at the budget impact you know as really the worst case scenario of and worst case scenarios maybe the wrong word but the scenario that we look at the most likely scenario of where staff will

054be and then that would be about a 4.3% renewal if all happen that way now again we cannot predict where staff will be but we feel like that is a very accurate number because it's using the robin Focus plan as the um defined contribution plan that's what the board is you know um potentially going to pay if approved tonight and that's where we feel is a good option for you what I wanted to do next is just have Jamie come up as well because she's been a big part of these discussions with the committee and just kind of share the work that she does behind the scenes um as a part of our benefit can I just ask a quick question when you were talking about um so 12% was the max you're trying to

055get it less but it was more than budgeted how much more than budgeted well if it's so if we budgeted 8% 12% is the renewal that came in and we're trying to figure out how to get that closer to the 8% and you and the way that R cap works we can't exactly match everything to make that happen so this using the robin focus is how we can get there within the parameters that we have within the have Genie come up and talk for a bitk Joe good evening everyone thank you for your time and attention tonight so as Joe did great job summarizing everything I had planned on saying um when we had terminated we negotiated a multi-year deal with Robin where we were able to establish that rap for that second year at

05612% which this year based upon utilization at that 59% and really did save us this year so when Joe mentioned that we had a 1 38% loss ratio what that essentially means as Joe said for every dollar that we're paying into Robin for premiums Robin is paying out a.38 in claim so as you can see we really were operating and running hot this year so through our proactive strategic planning as well as evaluating marketing Trends as well as reviewing benchmarks which we'll go over in a second that you all have in front of you that was included in your packet we felt it really made the most sense to offer a dual Choice option where we could imp your employees with choice and have that base plan based on that focused network with that defined

057contribution where employees could still choose the plan that made the most sense for them and their families and have the option to buy up to the Richard broader plan or network if they so choose okay and we also thought it made sense to increase that $750 traditional deductible plan to a $1,500 deductible plan to help costs as well as to be more in line with our benchmarks studies that will go over high level in just a minute okay so let's take a look at this packet so everyone has this in front of them and what this is this is our Nationwide benchmarking study that we do through USI with over 10,000 participants it's one of the largest Nationwide studies that has done the great thing about our benchmarking study is that it allows us the

058opportunity to slice and dice the data in a multiple ways so with this particular study we slice and dice the data looking at all of Wisconsin public schools and the 250 to 500 employee space in the state of Wisconsin okay so we do a high level overview and with this study we look at your plan from both the employer perspective as well as the employees perspective so when we look at your benefit plans from the employees perspective and and looking at the circles on this page right here we look at your plan from a plan design value where we actually give all of your plans in Actuarial value which I'll talk about in a second we then look at payroll contributions total employee costs and effective communication knowing that good communication really leads to a

059more loyal employee that truly understands their benefit plan so if we turn to the next page we look at your plan design value from an Actuarial plan richness standpoint the goal here is that employees want access to at least one medical plan that is richer than they can find amongst Benchmark comparisons and as Joe mentioned our traditional co-pay plan really is that rich plan so if you see our top plans are Illustrated here in the blue rows those the goal here is to offer at least one plan that is richer than the peer group average those blue lines on top that they're actually framed out that is where you all of your plans have met or exceeded the goal and when we assign an Actuarial value to your plan you can see that your plans

060range anywhere between 90% And 95% so what that means to break that down is essentially for every dollar paid in the plan reimburses 90 to 995 cents which is extremely rich we then can compare to the peer group average or even looking at Wisconsin Public Schools only that Actuarial value there from a benchmarking standpoint is at 81% so you can see that we really do offer a great Rich benefit for the employees and then if you turn the page we look at it more specifically where we break it down by plan type so the top section looks at your traditional Cay plans so this would be looking at your 750 current deductible on the traditional Cay plan which would be the buy a plan this coming year this is where we came up with the

061idea as to why it really made sense to increase that $750 deductible to $1,500 for a single so you can see here your two plans are Illustrated in the 750 deductible category with an aof pocket maximum of 1750 your Co insurance is at 100% that's why it's Illustrated at 0% compared to the Benchmark averages showing your full Actuarial value on the traditional copay plan at 90% when we compare it to other Wisconsin Public Schools the benchmarking average on a traditional Cay plan is a $1,500 deductible hence why we thought it made sense to bump ours up to, 1500 on the traditional Cay plan with a maximum out of pocket of 3,500 for a single and then 80% Co insurance so by having our base and our buy it plan with I defined contribution strategy we

062feel that would help better align us from a strategic standpoint into get more aligned with those benchmarks and then if we look at the very bottom section we're looking at the qualified High deductible heal so you can see your current $1,800 deductible is very rich compared to the average of a $3,000 HSA deductible um which leads into that 95% Actuarial value compared to the 76% compared to other Wisconsin Public Schools any questions there and then if we move on to the next Pages you can look at the employee payroll contributions so on the left side of this graph looks at the monthly contributions from an individual standpoint compared to the right side looking at monthly contributions from a family standpoint knowing that payroll contributions really are a primary driver of employee satisfaction so when we

063look at where your plans are Illustrated in the blue rows compared to the Wisconsin Public School average 109 compared to yours um some of your plans are a little bit more expensive because they are richer than the benchmarks um so that outlines that so you have met or exceeded all goals there and then when we look at the total employee cost on the following page this is where we look at plan richness so plan richness equals your employees autop pocket costs plus payroll contributions to get the total expected cost of healthc care so essentially what is coming out of your employees pocket to pay for their health care and you can see that both sides both looking at your average total monthly cost on an individual basis compared to the family coverage both sides your

064plans are extremely rich and we look great compared to the pure grip average as well as Wisconsin Public Schools any questions on that please and then the very back of this has just a bunch of benchmarking table data that dives 10 levels deeper than the data that we just went into um that supports the reasons why we are strategically moving the direction that we are um now that we've had the presentation I'm going to suggest that we place a motion on the floor um to approve this and then have the discussion full from that however if you have lots of questions and are not really sure about moving that fast we can open it up for discussion first I would prefer we leave it without a motion at the so break this down to a

065real simple process what's the change in the plan how much cost goes to the employee regarding their Cays the deductibles that was 11 in the old plan so sure so the HSA plan is staying the same so no increase to the dedu those aut of pocket maximums that plan is staying exact the same as what it is now with the rate increase that Joe has outlined on that spreadsheet in front of you and then the traditional C plan that plan currently has a $750 deductible for a single 1,500 for a family that deductible on that traditional copay plan will bump up to a $1,500 deductible for a single 3,000 for a family so a person that is wanting to keep their out of pocket costs as close to they as they can to what they

066have this year if they're in the Brad plan this year uh they can move to the focus plan and basically have what no more out of pocket than what they have now the focus plan would be a very competitive offering to get those rates down lower with and when you look at the network compar comparisons when we compare broad versus the focus Network the biggest differentiator in the focus network is that it it removes Ascension in SSM which is in fondet and then there's a couple other specialty providers like osms and Neuroscience and things like that that are in the broad Network and not included in the focus Network cost wise for deductibles and co-pays it's very comforable for what they're paying this year if they don't mind dropping of you know changing if their

067in Ascension they can pretty much keep their costs flat by uh moving in this direction I would say so they elect the HSA plan with the focus Network correct you support that your numbers so if if to answer that question if you are in the robin bro and you want all access to the to the network that JY was just talking about with Ascension and what was the SSM SSM it is going to cost you $ 4834 more year and the deductible doesn't change if you're under the high deduc and that's some that you said was like $15 a paycheck to same everybody gets paid a little bit differently you know whether it's a 19 pays 20 P or 26 P okay if you are a person under the traditional deductible plan meaning you don't

068like the HSA you rather have co-pays every visit and then work within the deductible you will definitely have to pay more because if you're under a family deductible there you're going to go from 1,500 to 3,000 plus your premium share increase which would be about $336 the whole discussion that we've had for years with the HSA plan is it really is the same plan it's just offset by the HSA but staff don't some staff don't worried about that but as we've shared with them a lot of people use the HSA plan it works for them the only staff members that we feel um are somewhat challenged are new staff that start in September because our plan renews on January 1st and they may have to start a new deductible but they would have had to

069at some point staff do have to start a new deductible if you move employers that's just part of deductible process and yes if you renew in September you started deductible but then in January we renew again you restart a deductible that's not something we can control as an employer unless you're willing to cover the difference which I don't know a lot of employers that do that do you feel like the education piece of the HSC is like so crucial like I didn't say yes for years because I was in freakout mode I didn't understand it it took me like four meetings with HR four different years and finally we took the leap because it was we couldn't afford the other one and it just worked so awesome for us because the whole saes account builds

070it doesn't just disappear but I just feel like it's such an education thing and it's hard to take that leap but it's probably more beneficial than you might imagine I'm glad you brought that up because I think that's the piece that biggest differentiator is employees truly understanding the advantages to having a 401k so when we actually compare these two plan options and look at the total overall premiums compare the out of pocket exposure on both plans factoring in the contribution from the school to the agesa it almost is to the point that everyone would almost be better off taking in the HSA when you really break down the numbers and truly understand it I think some people have that Fear Factor I'm going to lose my co-pays before I satisfy my deductible but if you

071really look at it with a traditional coopay plan it's a more expensive plan it may have a lower deductible but you're essentially paying out of pocket everything on that HSA plan which is kind of the Fear Factor piece but if you really break it down on a traditional copay plan you're prepaying for your Healthcare in advance with more expensive premiums versus an HSA plan you're paying for your health expenses as they're incurred taking advantage of those lower premiums plus the HSA contribution from the school and essentially you could be saving those into your HSA account which really becomes a 401k for your healthare as we retire I was surprised how fast it built and I said no for years because I was I didn't like the unknown but once you understand it it's so an

072HSA is the only triple tax advantage account out there so if employees really understand that piece and how beneficial it can be that it's their account it rolls over from year to year it's it's a great deal so if that's chair CH we make sure they understand it thank I'm instrumental during employee meetings teaching about HSA education we asked that in our meeting if she goes to the schools to discuss the insurance R and the different plans and the benefits by looking at this page Joe the HSA on the bottom is that employee funded or is that dist so you Havey has to match $1,000 for a single plan so they have to contribute that in 2000 as a family CLA so they're contributing parts of that and that's in the hand up that we

073give them to say if you want to get the TH or 2,000 in the district you also have to contribute to your HS as well and I would say that I'm less worried about the education piece because 80 plus percent of our staff typically choose the high deductible plan the newer staff members when they start in September you know Lori was talking to me today they're just like you know what I'm going to start with not the HSA plan because I the math of the deductible didn't work for me staff this has been the ninth year I think we've had the HSA plan and a lot of Staff members and they find the same values that Katie mentioned in it that it works out it has that triple tax advantage that Jamie said you don't

074if you don't spend it you don't lose it you're saving for yourself and retirement because in HSA is their account I mean anything that they don't spend in we don't take it back you know goes right into their account they pick the bank and we try to make it as employee friendly as possible we actually give them the deposit uh in January upfront and then we give them a second deposit in July so we don't PR rate it over the 12 months of the year so we have a very employee friendly plan with it it's just I think some people are just nervous to jump in but once people jump in they talk to their staff members too in the buildings and say you know what this this worked for me some people say I

075I just didn't jump there because it didn't work for me and a lot of employees that come here too are used to hsas because they've had it all their employers too you know it's not an uncommon do you explain like how how many things you can use your debit card for like we paid for two kids braces that is never covered under our plan with dental it's 1500 Max and it was just like you want we didn't even have to budget for it like we had saved enough that we could pay that but it's money you don't think of because it's automatic and I've always I've always kicked myself for not doing it sooner but I was too scared to leave and routine preventive care is covered at 100% on the AGA plan so for

076those individuals that don't even use the plan a lot I think they for municipal stage is a contribution and the education and we will see natural attrition as we get more employees that are just used to an AGA we'll get natural attrition into the HSA plan over the years as well there was a comment that came up often in our discussion as we're going through the details of of the different plans and it was that well we're offering is very rich and when you look at the charts this isn't typical of our peers across the state this is this is a very rich plan um when we look ahead I'm I'm I'm not saying that we shouldn't do this um we can afford to do it because of the cap obviously but I sure hope

077we have a plan in place come the following years renewal because that's that's that's 1.75 million if we if we did nothing so I'm I'm not seeing this is a bad idea moving forward but with that kind of rate increase that we're looking at there's going to be there's going to have to be some serious discussions another year I don't know where we end up on that but between that and our our and this isn't related necessarily to to the to the insurance piece but when you factor in our declining enrollment there's there's a hole so we can we can afford to do this this year looking out to the next renewal we we have a budget hold to fill are you surprised they didn't drop us or they just couldn't like as a business

078this person I I would have fired my client just because I'm losing money on every and I I just am surprised like they didn't see sure clearly are losing money but we signed a multiple year agreement that we were able to have that rap in place which we're very fortunate that we did have in place given the high utilization this year and they're they're writing a lot of policies so they're not losing money right I understand how it works I'm just surprised so they're still gonna you don't have to feel too certain going back following up on John question so next year we're sitting in this situation and we're looking at other other offerings because maybe Robin's like kind of kitty they're essentially going to fire Us by raising our rates so much how far

079back do those companies go and look at data of our group to then make a determination what what their bid is going to be the look back is two to three years data okay so this is this this past year is going to be on our record for a while for a while we'll see it continue to Trend some bad months will drop off some good months will acquire so and we begin the strategic planning process right away so we're talking plans tonight but as you said next year we have a whole process in place to begin the Strategic plan once again are we able to um get quotes while we're developing the budget which we typically are doing in in in April May June so we have an idea of what might be around

080the corner com you know this time of the year next year in order to get rates from carriers you do have to have your renewal in place as part of that process because they need to see more months of data from an underwriting standpoint um we can search a strategic plan could we have final rates that early not final rates we could have an idea where we want to be right and a picture of where we're headed just not final race that early sure because we won't have enough a high claim to pop at three quarter through that year and that clearly blow everything because are you kind of saying like we had no idea right that this was going to be so high six months ago no I'm I'm just saying that given the

081fact that the uh insurance industry takes a look back two or three years we know that this is that they're going to have this number in front of them so while we're developing the budget for next year having a rough idea of what our premiums could look like right is beneficial rather than like what you know John was saying instead we we budget for this amount and come October we get we get quotes at at this amount I think that's it's voice be prepared will say back two to three years but they also will make note of chronic conditions that are ongoing cases cases that closed out maybe one and done cases deliveries they know that's not going to be a recurring expense versus a cancer case maybe closed and done they do take all

082those factors consideration the way our budget Cycle Works it seems like we're we're stuck because we make major budget decisions before we know a lot of the pieces of the pie and I think that's what Mark saying but I think if we get a ballpark number you know like if um like what you were saying we aren't going to get exact rates but if we start seeing you know some some preliminary numbers that are obviously higher than maybe what we're paying today and what percentage it's higher we can probably guess what we'll probably be at rather than being so disproportionate as what we are right now like you said we didn't have the contract we'd be we'd have a problem so let's get back to uh 2024 year see if we can close this discussion

083out is any anybody ready to make a motion on uh 2024 I'm going to make a motion that we pass this okay John's moveed to adopt the plan presented second seconded by NY further discussion before we vote was your presentation over or did you have more to cover yet no that was that was the majority of the materials to cover okay we'll do this by roll call because we're I will have to abstain since I'm going to be using this insurance for I'll be only a month John ran yes Holly schweiter yes Terry Wagner yes yes yes yes CHR yes thank you thank you Jamie thank you now um before we go too far on the question of insurance we'll move to the dental insurance renewal um and just as a reminder we had a

084fair amount of discussion on this last meeting but did not uh push it to action so um Jo you want to pick it up from there and give us any update yes just to rehash exactly we Shar at the last meeting I know that the board could have acted at the last meeting but we wanted to group two plans together that's how we share of Staff we are making their recommendation to continue with Delta Dental for 2024 as um part of our plan but switching from a fully insured plan to be self-funded as we shared last time with the running is not going to go down to dental offices and try to negotiate contracted rates for for items Delta Dental is still doing that on our behalf we're just self-funded and we'll be paying out

085the claims that we have during the year and we will get utilization data and we'll be able to give you updates as board members to see you know where we're at the plan design changes just to discuss because we did talk about last Mee but just to remind everyone it was to change the xway frequency um we change the light from twice per year uh to once a year and per month uh from every two years to every five years along with 8 recommendations for X exposure and it will be 4% increase you could see on the next page the annual increase for a staff member is two bucks 234 for the year for the year you divide it out between their number of pays and the family increase is uh $660 for the year

086divided out of the number of pids and then the total difference is factored in up top of what the districts is it's about $13,800 so that's what we know today we feel that again this is a good recommendation you know for our staff we have you know great questions open to a motion to the question of s by Mandy seconded by Holly further discussion none we'll have a call John heidman yes H SCH yes Terry Wagner yes yes Katie bat yes M abstain Chris yes okay now we're ready to take on potential approval of the resolution authorizing consent agreement of the investment advisory what members the next three items letter CB and D will flow together and in your proposed motion to consider when we get into the discussion um you understand the significant we

087go for um annually our unfunded OPB commitments are under review by op stands for for everybody's benefit other post employment and benefits U the uh they're under review continually by by legal to ensure that districts are set up with best practice procedures for the Integrity of the plan not only for the employees but the district as itself the next three items which sure will expand on are just that recommendations that have come forward from outside Council uh to maintain Integrity within our opep benefit structure to um I know last meeting we talked about the investment advisor component of this now this topic summary has three um suggestions motions that really relate to the technical components of some changes that went on inside some naming of of items uh one PMA um is is a company

088prent man we've worked with them for for a few years with inside the Wisconsin trust program they um had an ownership change and it really doesn't impact the program at all but through the statutes we are required to let uh you know as board members and consent to those um as being part of the program again doesn't change anything inside the program also the custodian they are changing to Midwest trust and r&p was sent out by C's Wisconsin opep Team all of that went on behind the scenes legal council initiated that all of the school districts that have the Wisconsin trust program have the same resolution or motion being recommended uh to them tonight for not tonight but at their meeting you know by the end of this year and the last one is to

089clarify an amendment to the HRA plan that would cease uh interest earnings after a person resigns or retired from the school district that was a technical recommendation from that same Wisconsin old paath attorney as well to bring forward so that way there's Clarity of once an employee leaves the district there that's what the account is and they can draw on it but it doesn't continue to grow it earns interest while questions so Joe the first motion um that is in our packet says motion to approve a resolution authorizing consent to assignment of investment advisory agreement assignment to whom should we write that into the motion uh it's still man PMA me okay uh are we ready for to take these three motions on if so uh we're looking for the first motion one read motion

090Terry Terry second um and we want a uh that's up to you we don't need a roll vote we don't need a roll call vote all we favor say I I I poos say no next is a motion to approve a resolution authorizing the appointment of successor successor trustee and consent for the Wisconsin Obed op other post employment benefits trust and that's also to PMA right no no it goes from Midwest institutional trust Midwest I'll make that motion John is I'll and theny seconded and all those in favor say I I I say no and last is a motion to approve the amendments to the H summary plan uh document as presented I'll make the motion Mo by Mark second second by Terry all in favor say I pass let's see that's it okay so

091the only remaining thing is as a report I thought I would give you don't let me get too longwinded you can stop me at any time board members the legislative conference in uh Green Lake um I thought I would give a little summary for one what my U there were there were four uh topics that were covered there one was um the head of the uh assembly's education committee Joel kitens was there and gave a presentation the second there was a great presentation on declining and mement TR Friends by Sarah KP from from W Madison she's a researcher and then a public opinion and public education Forum by Charles Franklin and then there was um the last one was effective School Board governance in an area in an era of politization uh I'm just GNA

092uh um I'm just going to stress three things uh I'll tell you the highlights of Joel kitchen presentation and the declining enrollment um presentation and um the third thing for me and one of the biggest reasons that I go to these is networking because sometimes we think we're the only ones facing certain problems and you get to these things and it's very similar I mean I'm not saying identical and and I'm not saying some districts aren't wildly different problems than us but you find a lot of districts that have have the same type of issues um so starting out um with Joel kitchen's presentation um he was first elected to school board in the um in the city that he comes from which is uh Sturgeon Bay in 1998 two years later he became the

093president of that for for four straight years and then he was elected the assembly and he's been on the education committee ever since um this is his first ter as the um as the uh chair of that committee um he is uh a little different than his predecessor Jeremy uh thel in that he doesn't want to deal with a lot of bills that aren't going to get signed and go into law so uh um his committee kind of sits on ones that they think it's not going he has made he did make one exception to that which was the bill that our um our resolution is about he felt like making a statement on that um because of the bipartisan voter support for that concept he let that uh he let that one go through

094and that was passed that was HR 377 that makes it illegal for Bio males to play on DRS and female teams in his um he's he's really big on increasing reading improvements we talked about the state of Mississippi and the advancement they've made there um the reading bill was largely his um he was a big Pusher to get bipartisan support and he described how it's a little different than when it first came because he himself went and met with the governor and they they did some horse training and they came up with I don't thing um so he's very proud of that bill um and he's very interested to see how it how it has an impact on meing um some of the other issues that he thinks does have bipar do have bipar support

095there a local license bill that um makes it easier for local school boards to license people that they think have the the capability to teach or do other certified jobs um those those certifications are only good in in the district of the board that gives the certification is it because still a bachelor degree though I I I he didn't get a lot of questions on that one he was just uh he just said um that's one that they're getting a lot of push from districts across the state because of shortages of teachers to do um the school start date thing he did talk about that he is he is uh he is not going to support changing the school start date he's from he's from the door surprise I preer cheap lab that's a nonstarter

096for for me he said it's not because of the labor it's because of the businesses that for people that are taking that what was the DAT they were trying to move to just so we didn't have to not start before September which is basically the Labor Day weekend and I think his response to that is ridiculous yeah I didn't know if it was like California where they're doing August 1 or um he he did uh take questions and uh he took six questions and I got nine under the wire I was the sixth person and I asked him if if uh the Senate passes AB 377 um and the governor has pledged he's going to veto it can you find Democratic votes to override The veto I knew the answer he said no they stick

097together pretty good even if they disagree with the governor they're going to they're not gonna go against it though two questions I would asked them about the reading Bill one of which is is why is it that a group of uh lawmakers think that they know which are the best reading programs that school districts can have to choose from and then the second is is I just read this this weekend in an article about this is that for districts that have are going to be forced to make a change in their reading program there's going to be it sounds like there's going to be some State money available to help them offset the cost but what about somebody like us who we made a change two years ago ahead of the game are we gonna

098get get in on that cash I mean that's I mean that's itory of to bad so sad I think I think that's a good question because the last thing he said is I like to get out and visit school boards and you know feel free to invite me I can't guarantee I can get to any and all of them um I think we should invite them but I think we will stand a better chance of getting him to come uh I was talking to Scott about this if we ask the other Waka County um School boards what if we all set a special meeting just to hear him and ask questions somewhere in the center of waca County um if that is the case I do believe that we would go high priority because he

099can kill seven birds with one stone so just just a thought if you guys want to do that we have a local connection to his office through Marco Lopez who that's right is uh very close to him and does you know it works for him and um be I would support that I would encourage you to ask employees and staff questions about the reading also before you ask questions maybe they can come to because there's there's some other issues that are unfunded and some stressers that are put on this District that you know that really are big issues yep well the what the way I would Envision having Forum would be no no business to take care of just um no the public and the public can come and watch it but the people that

100can ask questions are board members from the seven districts if they all if they all show up comp have some dialogue with them so think about that if if you guys you know we can we can definitely get a ball rolling towards that don't tell them we laugh at the business about this schol start the other interesting thing and I I'm not sure everybody is be happy about this but um since I got to ask my question um 10 school board members from 10 different districts came up to me after that said your District was the one that put that great resolution in it was like five of more presidents of different school boards and um uh so I it you know there's there's a lot of them that it's it's way different than it

101was back when I was first on school board and went to the first WB meetings um it was you know WSB they try to be in the middle of where School boards are but from then to now of where School boards are the middle is much further to the right so it's it's a lot easier um to find uh boards that have very different ideas than what existed seven eight years ago as and and I think the new director Dan Ros is trying very hard to serve all districts and not you know not favor some or the other and you know I think I think um I get this comment from people all all the time when I talk to them from other districts I never go to WSB they're they're way over here and

102we're way you know we're not there and um I would encourage people that yeah you you're going to find some sessions where you don't like what the speaker is saying but you're going to find a lot of them where it's very good information and you're going to find a lot of of of networking of of like minded people no matter where you stand you're going to find that um and it didn't it didn't used to be the case um the declining enrollment thing um believe it or not there there's an impression out there that L of schools are kicking Public Schools butts not so much the numbers don't show that um the private school enrollment from 2019 to now is 3.1% higher than it was 2019 okay now there was a little spike in Co

103and came back down just a little bit but that's from then to now it's 3.1% but homeschooling is up 33% so if we want to know what parents we need to um try to serve and try to reach out to to figure out how to grow and um that is your biggest opportunity and that for US Open rment is is Big too but they don't track that in this because open enrollment they're tracking what's going on Statewide and open enrollment doesn't affect U numbers that way I think that 3.1% with regards to the pr schools and the voucher programs just so shows how much of a failure that program is that's something that I've seen with in my business and working with proi schs um they were not seeing a great growth in their attendance

104but they were seeing money coming in from the state and that's not the whole idea of what the voucher program was and uh so I would I would call I would see there's some great success stories out there and there are some there 31% is nothing so um so what was the dates of the homeschooling in increase the same so 2019 to n yeah from 2019% to now 33% um so we're trying to scratch our heads and figure out well the game in Oklahoma this year there's people moving into London what's happening that's Pro you know we don't have a New London study but if if we match Statewide that's probably where U that's probably who we need to Market to his home school I'm really not surprised by that number not at all not

105with the crazies out in the world um not with how cruel kids can be nowadays with social media I mean you got kids you got kids I'm not surprised by that number at all in the metropolitan areas they're very organized Green Bay uh the Fox Valley and I think that's where the the majority of it is is where they've got associations and essentially they what's that it's all over well it is all over but when you look at the numbers where they where those numbers come from the majority of it is probably coming from the from the major Metropolitan are do we have Scott do we have a way of determining how many people are homeschooling that are within the district ask how do you find out my sister and she homeschools all of them

106new one we have that our neighbors yeah yeah okay so we could find out these numers come from as is a surveys it' be interesting how to Target that to Market but it's not just been the last four years it's been the fastest growing education program for more than a decade yeah agree education delivery and how that's transformed offerings available to them as resources have just explored right was public schooled Public Schools to co spiked it it was spiking before that yeah I'm just telling you I know it's been going more than a decade that way because you may have had a slight Spike but it it obviously would have for some people experienced it and stay KY brings up a good question is how do we Market how do we Market to them communication

107knowing who those who those people are them first pardon find them first you find them in in churches the ones home schooling don't want to be found they want the public schools associations of them and you know I mean this again this isn't a scientific surve but anecdotally people want an education with Traditional Values left in place and they see I'm not saying that they're saying we're doing that but they're seeing the Public Schools as a whole and this is controversial I I realize it but if we if we set a marketing goal of saying we're going to be as traditional in um values as the law allows us to and we we carve that Niche out versus the other districts I believe that we would see uh See a return of some of these

108people and see some grow so everyone that came in as a result of that we lose three of them to open and rolling to a district that doesn't doesn't have that Chris you know that's that's I would want to make assumtions them here unless you're willing to ask them and they're willing to tell us we're just guessing yeah there's a lot ofs like I'm I'm sure if we wanted to find them like my sister's in Michigan but they like every Thursday they meet and she's the art teacher and there's like 150 kids they have their own sporting program they do they basically it's a school district within their school district I I I was talking to a set of parents that have three kids they live in henville they open and roll to here and

109I asked them well what caus you to do that they were pushing Dei too too too hard too much CRT too much gender ideology and we're very happy here because you guys are walking down the middle you're not I'm going to request we come back to the agenda topic sure we can a littleit okay then um just as that um I I would just give a hearty um support to the idea of going to the the State Convention I know it's a big amount of time and I know you folks that are parents it's hard to get away um they're doing you know it's it it is something that if you plan ahead and you can bring your SP your spouse it's it's kind of like we're trying to do more of that with these

110these events they had it at Green Lake um last week and I talked to a lot of board members where they came the day before and brought their spouse and had a really nice uh time there so didn't they record the speakers and it's available to to to see it online it might be for I thought in the notification we got for this it did say that they were I don't I know I asked them about can I get the notes because the notes they Ed out I couldn't even read them when I put my glasses on well so they we're going to send us the uh the notes out I haven't gotten them yet but I'll definitely ask if the the presentations are um the um uh also just Dan Ross Miller um came

111up to me after one of the uh presentations and said you know I'm sorry your resolution didn't make it through the resolutions committee but he said there is a way for you to get it on the floor of the convention and I'll send you some stuff on that he has done that but it didn't come in time to get a today's agenda um so that would be your choice board whether you want to still have that resolution hit the agend um okay um I guess I guess that's it I didn't hold quite to my five minutes but we have some good discussion and um we are now ready to I'll make the motion toti say have a good night everyone okay