001understand schools from their perspective. Your leadership was not just timely, it was transformational and sets the stage for all future Student Board of Education members. We have all learned a tremendous amount from you. Thank you also to your parents. For all of the rides, the calls, the explanations, and for sharing your children with us, we are deeply grateful to you as well. So if you've attended or watched our meetings, you'll notice a wry smile from time to time. That's the one. Or an astoundingly deep question that helps clarify a topic, and don't for one second underestimate a student board member, especially when we're talking about transportation or food service. Those are very hot topics for our kids. And they're here to make change happen, just like the elected officials. And so to both of you,
002thank you for giving your time and your energy, adjusting your schedules to be present, and so much more. You've inspired us all. In fact, your legacy lives in every classroom, every achievement, and every hopeful future that we help build. With deep appreciation, please accept the student board of education plaques, and they're sitting with Amy Burke. So, let's bestow these certificates and awards. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a little, I'm so flabby. Everybody take like one step this way. Are we strong? I'm always around you. All right, now all I gotta do, I think everybody's switched a little bit more. All right, I love it. One step, and then just switch. I have one thing to do. Let me get one. All right. Come on over here. Thank you. Place it to the right. Just
003down with it, so it's not going to go like that. Perfect. All right. All the way around. And then we're gonna take just a step this way, and then. And then, yeah, go ahead. Perfect. Perfect. One more. One more. All right. One more. One more. Is there a first? Oh, sure. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That's what I thought. Right? That's what I thought. I'm feeling like I'm just like, I'm gonna get a different one. And that would be their final duty if they want to sneak out. Now is a good opportunity to do that. Thank you. Enjoy your summer, Audrey. Yes. Bye, Shannon. All right. Moving on to Freedom of Information Act. Okay. So we had two FOIAs this past month, really both more from a commercial standpoint, and both
004were fulfilled. And then public comment. Can I have Gail Worthman? Good evening. My name is Gail Worthman, and I've been a resident of Frankfort Square for over 40 years, along with my husband Ed Worthman. Our children attended Indian Trail, Hill to Walker, Summit Hill, and to go on to graduate from Lincoln Way. I also served on the board as you guys did. Of course, we were at the old building. I served on the school board for over seven years. In the last couple of months, I've been attending the meetings, and what I've been witnessing is disappointing and astonishing. I've seen a fellow community member come to the board, speak before the board before the election, expressing concerns about her having her election, her signs defaced, removed, and also receiving anonymous racist letters. I saw the
005board, I'm talking about the previous board now. Everyone expressed concern and empathy, excuse me, and empathy, except for one. Then a remark was made by one of the board members. Don't go Jesse Smollett on us. After the election, the same member came back, excuse me, the same community member came back addressing the board again and saying that she had received additional hate mail. How disturbing is that? Finally, I see on tonight's board agenda that you're voting on reinstating the principle that was voted out by the previous board. This makes me question your motives and your judgment. Generally, a board respects the previous board's decision. That's just good governance. To the new board members on the board, how can you overturn a decision and you're just starting to learn your roles within the district? As a
006former board member, we always followed the advice of our attorneys. This is done to protect and keep the board members and the district safe from financial and legal jeopardy. As a community member, I do not want to see an increase in my taxes go to avoid legal settlements. And I would hope the board will be acting with the district's best interest, keep that best interest in mind and not your own personal agendas. Thank you. Thank you very much. Carrie Bunda. Hello, I'll keep it brief. I just wanted to thank you current board members for talking about the SRO. There has been interest in the community. John, you have tried to facilitate that conversation too, so I want to thank you guys for talking about it, considering it. I think safety is super important. I know
007that it looks like there's kind of a steep price and it's something to consider. However, I feel like we had promises in the past of getting grants for iPads that we never got the grants that came through and that was a big chunk of change. So if we're gonna consider spending a much smaller portion of that on safety, but we spent all that money on iPads with that guarantee. I remember Mr. Skabinsky coming up here and saying we were gonna get a grant and I think you, Mr. McDermott, said at the last meeting that you take full responsibility, which I appreciate, but that was almost a million dollars. So safety is important. Those were iPads. I was very happy with the laptops, to be honest with you, and I think a lot of other parents
008were as well that I spoke with. And so I just think that this new board, I just hope you guys can get to the bottom of that grant, why we didn't receive it, why we spent money without getting the grant first, and hopefully in the future, if we're anticipating grants, we don't go spend the money before it comes in. So thank you. Thank you again. Mr. Spreadberry. Good evening. My name's Matt Spreadberry and I was a board member from March 2024 through April 2025. This board has promised accountability and transparency, which is great. With that in mind, I'd like to look at the consent agenda item 5A7, the approval of the SROs for the junior high in Hilda Walker. Nothing about what I'm addressing here is about the specifics of the school safety plan, which
009I'm aware is a closed topic, but you're about to hire the second highest paid employee in the district behind only our superintendent, and you're gonna do so with a consent item agenda? So for the public knowledge, the cost is, from what I knew last time, $186,000 per year per officer. If you want lower property taxes, this isn't it. If we're hiring SROs at the salary of new superintendents. So what will we get for our $186,000? Well, you'd think safer schools. That feels intuitively true. It's gotta be true, right? But it's not. The reality is harsh. The current data does not support that SROs would make our schools any safer. The only data currently shows that the presence of SROs reduces non-gun violent crime. Do we have that as a problem in our district? Annually, how
010often are police needed to respond to an emergency in our buildings where an SRO would be appropriate? How are you justifying that this is something the stakeholders want when our own survey has 54% of parents saying it's not a priority? The next part's pressing, but we have to talk about school violence. You're not hiring an SRO for the elementary or pre-K buildings. Why not? Community members have spoken out right here at this podium that they wanted one for Rogus. If you're hiring the SROs to make our students safer, don't you want all the students to be safer? Do you know over the past 10 years, school shootings that occurred in the United States, there's twice as many at elementary buildings compared to middle schools? So if you're trying to reduce violence, elementary is where you'd
011wanna put them. Logically, it's simple. If the board thinks SROs are necessary to make our schools safer, which again, the data doesn't support, you should place them at all buildings regardless of cost, because safety should be the top priority. And if cost is the issue, then you should be researching and prioritizing safety measures that have been proven to work. Things like student mental health support, threat assessment teams within the buildings, and hardening the building's security. These are proven methods that are investments. They're not recurring salary costs that would last forever because honestly, how are we gonna fire these SROs? And some kind of middle of the road option doesn't work. Doesn't make any sense. You're just hoping that the one SRO's in the right spot at the right time, at the right building. And if
012what I'm saying is uncomfortable, it is. School violence is a sad and awful American problem and it needs solutions. And let me preemptively counter some of the common talking points that SROs will make our schools safer. The data does not support that. The community wants them. The survey shows 54% do not have it as a priority. And John, the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. It's appealing, but the data does not support that. The increased number of guns in the United States does not make us safer. If it did, the United States would be the safest place in the world with how many guns we have. Second, I have some rhetorical question for the board's consideration about repealing and rescinding of the reclassification of
013the principle. I'm gonna be walking a fine line here because of closed session confidentiality since the community doesn't know the details since no public hearing was requested after the private hearing was conducted. Are you gonna follow your own board policy with your actions? Has your board attorney advised you on your action? And are you following the attorney's advice? Will this board action likely cause the district to be sued as a result? And are you aware that closed session recordings and documents on this topic would probably be turned over in a lawsuit? This could also apply to emails and text messages as well. Have you contacted CLIC about whether or not our liability insurance would cover us in the event of a lawsuit, including the damages we would have to pay out? And is your role
014as a board to protect the interests of one person in the district or the district as a whole? Finally, to my fellow community members who feel strongly on this topic, just realize that most of you only know a tiny fraction, a tip of a very large, ugly iceberg. And if you think you're the one with the inside scoop, you probably only know a small part of one side of the story. But to the board, sincerely thank you for your time and efforts in serving the community. I know it's thankless. I know it's hard work. It's challenging work. I've been there for a short time. So sincerely thank you. I mean it as constructive feedback. Thank you. Thank you so much. That concludes our public comments. Thank you to each and every speaker. Melissa Moreno, thank
015you. All right, thank you to the new board members. I was happy to vote for all of this open-mindedness. I vote every time I can for school board members. And I just feel like sometimes years back, I'd send emails, I'd write emails to a lot of people and it just kind of fell on deaf ears. There were a few former board members, current board members that listened to what the public wanted. And I'm just gonna speak on a topic that's important to me. So items number two and three, I didn't get to attend the board meetings like I wanted to when this all started and happened, but I just need to speak on personally, I know there's many things we don't know, stuff that happens behind in the closed minutes, closed meeting the minutes we
016don't know. But what I do know is how much this principal has helped my own children. My oldest child is, you know, you're easy, straight A student, never a problem, very easygoing kid. My second child has struggles in school academically. So I got to know this teacher on a personal note, this excuse me, parents and principal on a more personal note when I attended numerous 504 meetings over the last few years. I also work in education as well. I'm a physical therapist for a co-op, but I have been in education for the last, I don't know, 13 years, but anyhow, I just have so much respect for Ms. Goble, so much respect for her because she cares about these kids. Like 14 year olds are and 13 year olds are a hard group of kids
017to really genuinely truly connect with. I have a hard time connecting with my own 13 year old all the time. She cares about those kids genuinely. She genuinely gives her former students a hug. She cares about them and knows them, not just because they're a good kid. She sees them and she's happy to see them. She gives them a hug. She always calls me Mrs. Marino. We're on a Mrs. Marino name basis only because she treats me with respect. And I think that kind of respect is what I want the seventh and eighth graders to see and feel and be inspired by. And that's all I have to say, thank you. Thank you very much. Now, can we conclude public comments? All right, moving on to action items, 5A consent agenda. So just again, bear
018with me, I'm gonna read all of them and then we'll motion to approve and have discussion. Based on some questions, I'm going to make the motion and exclude 5A7 and 5A9 for separate votes. Okay, so I'm asking that we move to approve the items on the consent agenda for this meeting as presented. Hold on, I gotta read them out. 5A1A, regular session meeting minutes of May 15th, 2025. 5A1B, closed session meeting minutes of May 15th, 2025. 5A1C, regular session meeting minutes of May 21st, 2025. 5A2, approval of bills list of June 11, 2025. 5A3, approval of resignation of staff. Denise DiMarco, effective at the end of the 24-25 year. Kelly Quick, effective at the end of the 24-25 school year. Grace Morin, effective at the end of the 24-25 school year. Emma Esposito, effective July
01919, 2025. Sydney Harston, effective May 27, 2025. There's no family medical leave at this time. 5A5, approval of employment of staff. Lori McCulley, reading specialist at Walker. Marissa Papp, social worker at DJR. Shannon Mullnickle, paraprofessional at DJR. Marcia Kempt, paraprofessional at DJR. David Sarabia, night custodian at Mary Drew Early Learning. Moro Reyes, night custodian at DJR. Maria Maravilla, night custodian at DJR. Baros Wanca, night custodian at Indian Trail. Maximilian Oranka, night custodian at Indian Trail. Vieta Sassour, night custodian at Summit Hill. Giovanni Gordon, night custodian at Summit Hill. Keith Seton Jr., night custodian at Summit Hill. Santino Fratto, day custodian at Walker. Shani Griffin, day custodian at Summit Hill. LaKiba Fanon, day custodian at Summit Hill. 5A6, approval of grades six through eight ELA grammar workshop. 5A8, approval of Hilda Walker's school elevator repairs. 5A9,
020oh sorry, 5A10, approval of cybersecurity insurance. 5A11, approval of memorandum of understanding. Volleyball coach type in for Hilda Walker. 5A12, approval of parent student handbook. 5A13, approval of Summit Hill junior high grade eight Washington DC trip in 2026. 5A14, board policy two colon one three zero review draft board goals and draft infographic. Do I have a motion to approve those? Second? Second. Do I have any discussion on those items? No discussion? All right, roll call. John Winter? Aye. Patrick Goldfine? Aye. Adrian Chavez? Aye. Joy Murphy? Aye. Ron Petrie? Aye. Amy Burke? Aye. Melissa Ryan? Aye. So we will go back to 5A7, approval of the SRO for Summit Hill junior high and Hilda Walker intermediate school. Do I have a motion to approve the SRO not to exceed $200,000? So moved. Do I have a
021second? Any discussion? Maybe, well I'll start off and give some information and then if I miss something you have questions. So this has been, the SRO has been something two years in the making and some people will make you believe that this is something unique to school districts. There's 24,600 plus SROs throughout the country. I was an SRO myself in high school. I had two years of experience at that level, went through training. And our neighbors to the south of us, Frankfurt 157C are very happy with their SRO at their grammar school level. So to kind of give some scenarios that happened within our district without giving detail, and these didn't include students, I had a scenario that happened at my house. Some gentleman was having a mental health crisis and typically this is what
022is the scenario generally whether it's a student or an outside person, it comes down to mental health. And this gentleman went down North Avenue in front of Summit Hill Junior High at 3.30 in the afternoon, my parents were driving out of there waving a gun in the air. Then he came down my block, went up to my neighbor's house. The grandma had left to pick up the little ones, left the door unlocked and the other older son was getting off the bus. And he witnessed the guy sitting down on his knees waving in front of the ring camera. He immediately called his mom, he saw the gun, the person entered the house. He told mom, there's a guy in the house with a gun. Mom thought the kid was in the house with him, called
023the sheriff. At that point, the guy came out of the house and then went across the street to the other neighbor's house and that neighbor answered the door where they put a gun to the head of that neighbor and wanted her cell phone. Her husband shoved him and slammed the door. Then he proceeded to walk back towards Summit Junior High at which point the sheriff arrived, thankfully, right in front of the tennis courts as he was going towards our school with a gun. Kid's still in the building. So that's one scenario. Then we had another person in our district have another mental health crisis. As a police officer, I witnessed these more often than not in my career within people's households. But this gentleman had a mental health crisis. It caused a lot of concern
024within the community. At one point, 80th Avenue was shut down for it and thankfully, he got the help that he needed and it didn't involve our schools close to a school. And then there's other things that we can't talk about with students over the years. But I find it that it would be, some of the things that people say is, oh, look at some of the scenarios where the officer didn't enter the school. Officers are human. It happens in war too where the person doesn't take action. He freezes. They're human beings. But by and far, the officers stop the continuation of the violence. And within our county, a lot of times we're running two officers within Lincoln Way District area. Supposed to have four. So you can have two officers on a domestic all the
025way up in Manhattan and we have this going, something going on in our school. So you're gonna have a long response time. It's about 15, 20 minutes from Manhattan with lights and sirens on. Now, Tinley Park and our other neighbors will respond. We all have intergovernmental agreements to respond to schools and everything. And so having an officer in the school is one layer. It's not the end all be all. And I think that those who say that it's not necessary, we don't need it, I think it's irresponsible at this point, the way we've been going for 30 years with gun violence. We had about 24 shootings at schools last year alone, throughout our country. So that's where my concern is. I'd rather have that layer there than not. Most of the time, this is covered
026by a grant. So we will be working on that. We had a grant for cops last time, about a year ago or was it two years ago? So we had a stop the bleed or stop the violence grant and cops grant. We have applied for both in the past and have not received them. However, it's open again. And so we're in the process of applying for that. So they are, they can be covered by grants as well. State grants out there and federal grants and we'll be applying for those for those who are concerned about money. But go to like, I think it was Yuvaldi where after the school shooting happened, there's 24 grammar school kids dead, they closed that school down and demolished it. And so some people say, well, how is that effective?
027I would ask the question, take the police officers out of your community and let the bad guys know that there's no police in there. Do you want police in your community or not? Because trust me, if they're not there and they know it, they're gonna come knock on the door. Why do police departments put ghost vehicles out at nighttime in front of plazas with businesses? Because they work, it's a deterrent. Even without a guy inside, the bad guy thinks that guy's close by, he must be walking the beat or something. So that's, I'm very passionate about it. I've been talking about it for two years. I hope there's support amongst the board as well. And I believe that we will be able to get this covered by grants, but nonetheless, we had this discussion before.
028It is something that we can find it within the budget and not buy pieces of land or things that don't have a purpose to either help our education, our kids educate it or make our schools safe. So that's what I have to say about it. Thank you. Can I ask a question? Sorry. Go ahead and ask a question first. I was gonna just ask with these grants, Paul, you said we can apply for them now? How long does that process take? And if we got them, could we expect to see any kind of funds from them? Do you know? Yeah, if you apply for the COBS grant and there's other grants out there as well, you can use the funds solely for the salary of the police officer. And then Paul can probably ask about
029the process or the length of time. It usually takes months for something like that to get approved. But you can backlog that money too as well for the same school year, if they approve it for that school year, so. And it can be written into a grant application specifically for this purpose, correct? Correct. And you may even have a better chance of getting that grant for that purpose. If we already have an SRO in place? No, specifically saying we're using it for an SRO. They'll probably, they'll be a little more likely to approve of that versus other things like cameras and locks and stuff like that. Especially on the federal government side. So I wanted you to just kind of answer something as well. And if we could revisit the survey results. Yes. You can
030explain a little bit. It's a great thing. So when the survey was sent out, it was sent out as security guards. So I think that was very confusing. It was never sent out as an SRO in the school. So personally, I don't even know if those survey, I mean, except for the they feel safe part, I don't think that the other parts of asking about is the security guard. Because a lot of people had questions and concerns, reached out to me and other members that are up here now that weren't members at the time, but they were basically saying, we don't want a security guard. And they're like Paul Blart. We don't want someone in there with no training, not police. And so I think that that whole survey really doesn't even come into play
031here when we're talking about an SRO. I do think if those, if you, and the survey, by the way, is in the public packet. If anybody wants a summary, right? Correct. In the public packet is a summary of the survey. We did not put in the 1,100 comments, but just- And I do think if someone answered that they weren't in favor or felt comfortable with an armed guard, that they would feel therefore feel comfortable with a sheriff resource officer. And the consensus at the community outreach committee was that they did not like the idea of off duty or just hired security guard. That came from the community outreach committee prior as well when they discussed it after the survey was taken. And I think that you had a good question too in our committee meeting
032too as well. When it comes to a school resource officer at a grammar school level, it does look different than one in a high school level. You know, they're both there. The primary reason is to act as the sheepdog, right? To be the guardian, to stop and protect the flock. But their roles are different when you're talking about high school and grammar school. It's always about building relationships with the children and letting them see law enforcement in a different light, but they're not gonna be going in there. We're not gonna ask our SROs to go and do locker searches. As a matter of fact, at the high school level, they also tell, a lot of times they tell their, at least when I was at Lyons Township, they didn't want us doing locker searches. And
033quite frankly, the police department doesn't wanna go do that all the time either. So there's not gonna be canines running through your kids' schools. There's not gonna be locker searches. They're there to stop the bad guy, and they're there as an advisory to the school on juvenile matters. And what's nice about the juvenile law is it allows a lot of discretion. There's something that is in the law that allows you to either do an informal station adjustment or a formal station adjustment as a juvenile officer. And all our school resource officers are certified juvenile officers as well. And so what they do is they do an informal station adjustment on anything related to a simple battery, kids push each other, stuff like that. The police aren't gonna get involved in that either. That's all gonna
034be handled between the parents and the administration, as it always is now. So if there's any fears of that too, because that was a good question you had too as well, that our SRO's not there to play policemen. He's there for the most part, as far as batteries. If there's a theft or something that's still gonna be handled mostly with the school, then they're not gonna be interrogating kids and stuff like that, so I hope that helps too as well. It's what directives we give, and we ask the SRO to partner with us so they don't just do whatever they want. You have anything to add to that, Paul, or if any experiences with, did you guys have an SRO at any of the grammar schools when you were in Payless? We did not, but
035I did work at Lincoln Way High School in the past, and so we were always paired with an SRO when we worked with discipline. I got more questions about Patrick's chopping. Yeah, no, I just wanted to make a comment as well with this, and I wanted to thank Mr. Spreadberry for his comments as well. This isn't really a cut and dry thing for a lot of people, and I think it's important to understand and respect that. And yes, there might be data that might show one way that it doesn't prevent a school shooting, right? But I think it's important for everybody in attendance, everybody watching at home, everybody who's watching this on a recording, to think about something. And that is the thought process of American exceptionalism, meaning the thought process that it can't happen
036here, right? We watch the nightly news weekly, sometimes daily. You're seeing evidence of mass shootings, and a large portion of them can happen in schools. To think that just because it hasn't happened here is to say that it won't happen here, I think is reckless and pretty irresponsible, in my opinion. And I think it's really important for everybody watching to ask themselves a question, and don't answer publicly, don't share your answer, but a lot of the deterring argument against this is the cost. And I think it's important for everybody to take a moment and think to themselves and reflect. What is the numerical cost that you would put on a child's life? We are, by entertaining this idea, we're thinking of safety for all of our children in the future. And while, let's say it
037doesn't prevent the school shooting from happening in the school, what it can prevent is the loss of one or two children's lives, or the loss of eight or nine or 10. And when you think of it in those terms, and maybe it won't prevent it, but if it did happen in the future, and anybody on this board were to look back, and in the community as well, were to look back and ask themselves, what more could I have done? I couldn't live with myself if I turned it down, the opportunity to save a child's life, because I was worried about a couple thousand dollars. That is not the thing that I can live with. And I think that's something that's really important for people to just ask yourself and reflect on that question. What is
038the numerical economic cost of a child's life? We are not married to it either. When they started over in 157C, Frankfurt, they started off, it's a year-to-year contract. And even in the middle of the year, both the sheriff and us can disengage in the contract. There's no financial cost to it. We wouldn't be having to pay. Yeah, we were told in committee, when it went through committee, that yeah, it's just an amicable split. If it's not worked out, if the person is in the right fit as well, you can rotate somebody else that might be a better fit. So over at 157C, they started off, and there was apprehension, I get it. But after the first year, they were so excited about it. They were so happy. It was so successful that they continued on,
039I believe with a three-year contract, but I could be wrong. But it was in the newspaper and the patch and everything like that, how much they were happy with the program. So I feel like once it gets settled in here, that people will feel the same way. Also, if you're asking, I get every parent wants, every community member wants every student protected. It gets completely valid, you know? Going through, starting at Walker and Summit Hill, for lack of better words, bigger kids, not bigger problems, but different problems or different ways of building relationships as the kids get older, which to me is why you start there. And if it's successful, and we can work out deals and further down the line, you know. And he can go to all the schools as well. He'll probably
040primarily be between Summit and Hilda, but he will be at Indian Trail, he'll be at the preschool, and he'll come over to Walker as well, I'm sorry, Rogus as well. And so he is for all the schools. And so if something does pop up in one of our schools, like Rogus, we have some kind of parent issue or something like that, and people are on heightened alert, then he can float there for a day or two. I think that we had an incident over, or there was concern over at Hilda Walker when somebody had some issues too as well, and we called Tinley, and a lot of parents were demanding, and Tinley stayed there for a couple days. And that really helped out too. So when we have those things kind of compartmentalize or individual
041to a school, we can always have him shift his attention more over there as well, so. Yeah, so I think it's a great investment in the safety of our kids, and that's definitely in front of mind. Something to also make note of, I think, is also like we pointed out, like a lot of these issues are mental health issues, but those are not showing any sign of slowing down, right? We're having a lot of emotional stuff going on. We have media, I'll say that right now, media to blame, that kind of is separating and creating some issues. So that is a concern. One thing I pointed out at the committee meeting was, I mean, there's the sticker shock, obviously, because it is another employee that's gonna get this large amount. My question is always, what
042do we get with that as well? And one thing to consider is that there was, and I know you're cognizant of it, is there some people that are very much pro it, an SRO, but we have to keep in mind the people that were not pro SRO and they have their concerns. And so I wanna make sure that they feel that we are keeping them in mind, and especially when we do talk with an SRO, bring them on, or speak with the Will County, that it's not only, hey, here you go, drop him off, and he's part of the team and that's it. We want him, I'm asking for them to be able to educate our community, make sure that our community understands what their role is, make sure the community understands that the people
043who were anti-SRO are also very well taken into consideration, and they're kept in front of mind. For sure, and like when I was at the high school level, obviously there's some things that you don't do in the grammar school level, like driver's ed. I would go and speak to the driver's ed classes, but I also did different things, like I attended this snowball event, so he can attend an event or two as well that would be a community building bridge for the community, but also obviously with the kids in mind too, the kids are being there. But he would go in there, he wouldn't just come in and walk around all day. We would utilize him to come into different classrooms and do fun things, like I did on the career day, I came out
044and I did latent prints and stuff like that, had a lot of fun with kids, we did a mock crime scene and it was just fun, we had a lot of fun with that. So they can come in and based on the curriculum and what a teacher's teaching, there's always room for them to come in the classroom and everything too, and that's where you really get to build the bridges, and I'm sure they'll have fun in gym class with the kids as well, that's always fun. I have one last comment on that is also, yes, this is for about, it is about our kids' safety, but also we're taking into consideration the staff safety as well. So I don't have an issue with an SRO. I do wanna reiterate that the last board did take
045safety serious. We earmarked $450,000 from the sale of the buildings to harden our buildings. The survey results were 50-50 right down the middle, some were for it, some were against it. And there was really no true evidence that an SRO, to support that an SRO would make our schools safer. We looked for the evidence, we asked for the evidence, we never saw it. So I just kinda worry a little bit about spending $200,000 for fifth through eighth graders and not consider the pre-K through fourth. I was for a security officer in every building because I feel like I'm for all students, 2,300 plus students that we have, but I also have a grandchild in every building except the junior high. And it just, it's like, so if the guy comes into the junior high, they're
046safe. What about the little schools? What about, we spent the money to harden the buildings. We are taking this serious. We understand how important this is. Nobody's taken this lightly, but I just feel $200,000, this'll be the second top employee, paid employee in the district which Matt's Bradbury said he was on the board with us. We already discussed that. And I did the math today and that's $1,000, really $1,100 a day for this one employee. I feel like we could spend this money to continue to harden our buildings to make it impossible or try to get there for any intruder to get into our building. I am not against the SRO. I'm against spending $200,000 for an SRO. So I'm not against somebody protecting, sitting there protecting the kids, but they don't have a doctorate.
047They don't, they're not working all year for 200,000. They're working 180 days. So I'm just struggling with the amount. And I just wish that if we were gonna go this route, we could wait till we get a grant and possibly figure a more reasonable way to go about this and not spend 200,000 this year. It'll probably go up 5% next year, 5% the following year. This will be a $200,000 every year where when we harden the buildings and we spend 450,000, that's a one-time deal, it's done. This is every year. And I'm not minimizing the importance of safety for our students. It's just the dollar amount. That's my only concern. So I think there was just one more. Oh yeah, and also I don't know if anyone on the board was able to look at
048the IGA with Will County or not. I know John has and Amy and myself, but I was wondering the new board members, were you able to look at over the IGA? I mean, this is an old one. It's not even a new one. So it's kind of the cart before the horse. It's like, we're approving this, but yet we haven't even looked over an official contract. So we could like... Yeah, there were two committees that looked at it, so. We haven't as a board at the end. No, I'm saying they got to look at that contract. Okay, so I had to ask for this today. So I didn't see it in the board book either. And I know Patrick, you weren't at the meetings because there are the buildings around, right? Yeah, no, no, I
049know, I know. This is important to look at the contract, to go through. Maybe it is something we want. Maybe it's not something. We just never focused on this contract. And as a board, this is a huge responsibility. So just my concerns are that we didn't really get the new contract yet, the new IGA from Will County. And we also, the amount. And that's my two concerns. Yeah, I was obviously, as you mentioned, I wasn't at the committee meetings. He was out for help. Yeah, totally fine. And I breezed through this today, but it's not the same as reading it in depth. But what I have done is I have reached out to a lot of different friends, resources that work in school districts that have SROs, some that don't have them. I communicated at
050a very long conversation with John about it. So while I didn't look through the contract, right? I did put my money where my mouth was due diligence to the best of my ability while it was kind of laid out. But a contract, this is really where this is important. Sure. The cost, not to make light of it, because it's near 200, is 193,000 and some change. And we're looking to work with, try to work with them as well on the cost, but the cost is pretty fixed from what I understand. The intergovernmental agreement is pretty standard language. We did give this to our attorney as well to look at. So I don't think that the language from one contract to this contract is not gonna change. It's pretty standard stuff. But it could have changed.
051We didn't get the opportunity to see the new one. Okay, I did look through it and our attorney looked through it as well. And there's been no concern from the legal part. Okay, so. I do think Joey brings up a good point though in that what if we were, I'm sorry, did I miss how long it would take for that grant to come through? It would be a few months. It would, typical grants take months. So wouldn't it be better if we table it and then we would be able to reconsider once that grant is either thumbs up or thumbs down? Because I think that would also, not to put a dollar amount on anything, but also to try and be as responsible as we can. Well, we can vote on the table if you
052want. I'm not for it. Okay. I've been working on it for two years, but I'm open to have a vote on the table here. If you want to do a motion, you can motion it. Well, right now there's a motion to approve it. So we'd have to vote on that and then vote to table it. No, no, we could vote to table it. Yeah, motion to table would take priority on whatever. Thank you. So we could do that. Is there any, Julie, can you add anything to the financial part? Like if we're paying this while the grant, like where is that? Can you shed some light on the funding for that while we're waiting on the grant? Or Paul, if you want to jump in too on that. Approved in September. And then we'll be
053looking at numbers and a tentative budget so we could look at it with that type of timeframe. So right now, obviously it's not in the 2025 budget, and it was not part of that year of last year, which ends in June. So whether or not, however, it happens tonight would have an impact. We really don't know outcomes of grants at this time because we would have to look into that too, so. But from our line items now, do we know where that money would come from? Like if we didn't, like right now, if we approve it. We would have to look at it, where we might cut in other areas we could look at. We could look at opportunities to maybe do a transfer of interest from the bond fund. We've already, basically the transfer
054of interest from the working cash fund is something that we've already been utilizing. So we would have to look at different opportunities for funding or different opportunities for cutting costs. So we have a motion to table then. Do I have a second? Second. Okay, roll call. This is a motion to table the SRO. Patrick Wolffant? No. Adrian Chavez? Yes. John Winter? No. Melissa Ryan? No. Joey Murphy? Yes. Amy Burke? No. Ron Petrie? No. Okay, so that motion fails. So we are back to our motion to approve it then. So can we take a roll call on approval of the SRO? I roll call for SRO. Melissa Ryan? Aye. Patrick Wolffant? Aye. Joey Murphy? No. Amy Burke? Aye. Ron Petrie? Aye. Adrian Chavez? Aye. John Winter? Aye. Motion carries. Moving on to 5A9, approval of new
055help ticketing software. Do I have a motion to approve the new help ticketing software? I just have a couple of questions on that software. So last time was presented to us, it was at a cost that was about $1,000 more. We obviously got the cost down about $1,000. It seems like the old software is still doing this job. It's just a cleaner software to, is what I've been told is just a cleaner software to manage things a little bit better. But it's still a software that's about $6,000 more from what we are currently using. So we tabled it last time and then it's back on the agenda again. So I was just wondering, is this something that we definitely need for the district? Or is this something that we can do without? Briefly, I will
056ask Brian to come to the microphone, briefly. So I think the one piece he'll talk a little bit about is the inventory module, which is something that we don't currently have. And there is a one-time cost of $2,500. So after year one, there is a reduction in the price. So as far as the necessity, I'll turn it over to Brian. Yeah, so I think we said, we did hear the feedback from the board and we did realize that incident IQ was probably a little rich for our taste. And so we focused our attention on the frontline inventory system. And so, yes, I mean, does school do what it does is what it needs to do for us? In some ways it does, but we are needing to move to a inventory system to provide an
057asset management tool for our insurance companies and to provide like that kind of inventory to provide for the business office of where our assets are depreciation. And that is something we don't have in School Dude. And School Dude really hasn't updated itself. And so while the price is right, I mean, we really haven't, it's not really giving us in the sense of reports or things that we're looking for that help us do our job better. It is truly, I think a glorified form that we're paying a couple thousand dollars for a year. So the biggest component we're really looking to add here, and this is the reason we really started looking was the need for this inventory management system. And so that is the biggest component that is the add-on to this, Ronnie. So the
058event module though, that stays the same, right? So that system doesn't go away. We still secure that cost every year. So the event, so when we were looking at incident IQ, the idea was is we were gonna bundle that all together and upgrade everything. But again, that became too expensive. So the concession was let's look at frontline to do our help desk and inventory. And we would stay with ML schedules, which is our current system. And that would continually be our external event scheduling system. Can you clarify? There's a chart on 67 of your board book if you wanna, page 67 shows the chart. Can you clarify what you're talking about when you mentioned inventory? Like, are we talking about actual physical devices, all of that stuff, right? Absolutely, every 2,300 iPads. Just wanted to
059make sure that people understood that's what you were talking about. Absolutely, every piece of our equipment needs to be in an asset inventory, not a Google spreadsheet anymore is what they're asking us to do. Correct, no, that's good. The one-time cost fee, what's that for? So that is really their way of bringing you on board. So that's their fee of their training, onboarding you, helping you get the program started up. So again, with talking with frontline, initially that cost was $1,000 more. I tried to get them to come down about $1,500. The concession was $1,000. So we had movement in the right direction where our conversation with incident IQ was really a poor conversation after last board meeting. So I felt the $1,000 was at least in the right direction and it was an annual
060cost that was more in line with staying underneath $10,000, which is the limit of where we wanted to be under. All right, just got one more question. Service cost of $6,900, that's gonna be annually. Is that a contract that we're in or is that like, so like, so every year we're gonna pay six nine or is it gonna go up year to year? Like what is- So you would anticipate that yearly, some stay fixed, but I would anticipate that every year it's about a 5% increase that you would hit. So typically with frontline, they're about a 5%. All right, that's it for me. Anybody else got a question? So for the insurance company, they want this spreadsheet, they want it a specific way. The way we were doing it, it's not acceptable. There was alternatives
061explored and this was the best solution. Yeah, I mean, so there are multiple companies that we had looked at, John, and so these were kind of what we had brought to our team that looked at that we felt were the best that we felt our team liked the most. And we felt that this was in the price range that we were comfortable in spending and bringing to the board. Does that help answer? Yeah, thanks Brian. Yeah, if the insurance company is requesting that we upgrade the system, I wanna ask, would not upgrading it affect our insurance levels? Like would a premium or something go up? Is this gonna have a tangible cost to not? So I'll try to be really high level because I'm probably over my time limit of talking here already, so. That's
062our fault. So I kind of talked about it in the last meeting, there's the Learning Technology Center and they have what's called 48 reasonable security practices. And so CLIC is our insurance provider and they provide us hours with a cybersecurity specialist. And so that cybersecurity specialist walks us through those 48 reasonable security practices and they are then grading us against those reasonable security practices and one of them is, what is your inventory management system? And it's an Excel spreadsheet and they're like F, right? And so when you say, what is the way to improve that grade, they're like, it has to be in a management system. And so- It would be like one of 48 points. Correct, right? And so what this, so I'm not looking to spend money to say in the sake of
063spending money, I'm looking to spend money because it was a recommendation that came out of last year's evaluation or from that cybersecurity specialist that said this was a recommendation to improve your score in this whole practice. So that was something I looked to improve this year when we were looking at that product. Yeah, no, thank you. It'd probably help out too with all the iPads going out every year and coming back in and- It certainly does. It allows us to track repairs better and much better than what we are doing currently with a Google spreadsheet. Any further questions? Can I have a motion that the Board of Education approve the licensing with frontline help desk and asset inventory for $6,912.50 annually with a one-time implementation cost of 2,500? So moved. Second. Roll call, Joy Murphy.
064Aye. Adrian Chavez. Patrick Oliphant. I know it's only 1 30th of what we just approved, but this seems like more of a want than a need. I'm gonna vote no. I vote no. Amy Burke. Aye. John Winter. No. Melissa Ryan. Aye. Motion carries. Moving on. We have no 5B old business. 5C1 new business acceptance of gifts. 49. Not really. Okay, here we go. All right. The Board of Education accepts gifts from any education foundation or other entity or individual provided the gift can be used in a manner compatible with the board's educational objectives and policies. The purpose of this policy is to recognize the significant role played by SEOs, Summit Hill Educational Foundation or SHF, and boosters in providing a value added experience for children. And to help these organizations comply with appropriate purchasing procedures
065and to have resources of district 161 business office available for any disputes with vendors. I move that the board approve with great appreciation the gifts from Dr. Julian Rogus, SEO, gifts in the amount of $7,969.61. Indian Trail, SEO, gifts in the amount of $5,604.43. Hilda Walker, SEO, gift in the amount of $19,015.18. Hilda Walker, Summit Hill 161 band boosters in the amount of $840. Hilda Walker parent donation, Mr. Sloss, $500. Summit Hill 161 band boosters, gift in the amount of $2,259.50. Summit Hill Junior High SEO gifts in the amount of $4,869.25. Summit Hill Junior High athletic boosters in the amount of $1,470. Summit Hill Educational Foundation, SHF in the amount of $10,000. Do I have a motion to approve? So moved. Second. Second. Roll call, Ron Petrie, aye, Melissa Ryan. I'm going to abstain since
066I'm on the Hilda Walker SEO. Amy Burke. Aye, thank you. John Winter. Aye. Adrienne Chavez. Aye. Joy Murphy. Aye. Patrick Oliphant. Aye. Motion carries and again, thank you so much for all of your support and hard work. We appreciate it. Moving on to five C two, repeal and rescind resolution of intent of non-renewal administrative contract and reclassify principle. Both of these items to revisit the reclassification were placed on here this evening after some communication between lawyers and individual board members spending hours reviewing information. I move that the Board of Education approve to repeal and rescind the resolution of intent to non-renew administrative contract and reclassify principle that was voted on the April 7th, 2025 meeting. So moved. Seconded. Do I have any discussion? I'm just, after looking through board policy, I noticed board policy two
067colon 10 is basically saying that the board should not overstep if the superintendent, if we've already voted on something or the superintendent recommends it or advises us that we need to enforce and follow our own policy. And three colon 50 and three colon 60, I was reading through those today and what I did get from it, and I could be wrong, I'm so glad the attorney's here today, but it did say that, did we get a letter of recommendation for this rescinding to reverse the two items from the superintendent? Did we get a recommendation letter from the superintendent? Because our board policy does state that, that if we were to rescind or just go against what he said, especially about his administration and his staff. There was communication, as I said, between the lawyers, we
068can be advised in closed session. Are we going into closed? There's no closed session on the agenda today. And also, is this to the lawyer, is this an action that could lead to a lawsuit that the district can defend and win? Can I address all of her questions related to that? Okay, so first of all, yes. First of all, the school board wants to follow its policies, right? And the three school board policies that you have pointed out address the different components of the relationship between the school board and the superintendent with respect to staffing decisions and things like that. The board though, in addition to following its policies, has to follow state law. And the issue with respect to reclassification of principals is under the school code, under section 10-23.8 sub B. And if
069you read the process in that school code section for reclassification of principals, one thing that's a little unusual is that it does not mention the superintendent at all. So that's why the issue has come back before the board. Now, will someone sue the board? People sue public bodies all the time. My job is to try to make sure that you're following laws so that if you are sued, you have the best defense possible for whatever actions that you take. So I can't predict what will happen, but I will do my best to make sure that everything the board does is defensible. Any other further comments or discussion? Yeah, I think it's really important to understand that none of this was taken lightly, right? And I wanna thank legal counsel for advising the board on to
070even put something like this on the agenda. Because we certainly don't wanna, we have a fiduciary responsibility to all the taxpayers. I was looking through board policy as well now seeing as that's kind of null and void because it's superseded by state law. Something that jumped out to me was section eight of our board policy, community relations. Eight, column 10, connection with the community dash public relations. Subsection two is to gather community attitudes and desires for the district. And subsection five is to earn the community's goodwill, respect, and confidence. Me personally, I think that was eroded immensely with the previous board, as seen by an advisory referendum, which was on the record, as well as having the highest voter turnout in the election. The voters spoke about their confidence in the board of education and
071the decisions that they were making. And that kind of inspired me to look into all the evidence that was presented to the previous board. I know I myself and other board members asked for additional information on top of what was presented to the previous board because to me that wasn't enough to make a decision. And I spent a lot of hours reviewing all of this. And where the concern for a lawsuit one way is one thing, I think there is, even though there was a process followed, a very legal process that was a basis for a recommendation, to me there was a procedure missing in that process. And that I think could open us up to a lawsuit as well. So it's just a very, very sticky situation. But know that I've certainly done a
072lot of homework on this and the community relations is important to me and also protection of staff moving forward is important to me. And that certainly played a role for myself. And I'm only speaking for myself as a board member. I would like to follow up on that just because again, it was important to me and is important to me that everyone knows that there wasn't this idea of, oh, we're just going to do this. Like we don't agree with it, we're gonna do it. Like Patrick said, we're very, it came in with an open mind and didn't know what we were gonna see. And as Patrick mentioned, hours went through everything the prior board saw and more. We did our due diligence and this is what we came up with. And this is not
073about one person. This is about the district and the good of the district and what the community wants. And we've listened and read and that is where our decision's coming from. I just feel we're going against the legal advice of our attorneys. And I want this on record that this could result in a lawsuit that could cost the taxpayers a significant amount of money. Very legit, I'm glad you made that statement. I mean, it's my opinion, right? Any further discussion? I wrote on my statement, so I make sure I cover everything. But I want to point out, just like everybody, just to echo that I dedicated a lot of time digging into this, listening, praying, reflecting and doing my best to be as objective as possible. And I made my decision as a step toward
074healing and restoring stability in our district, which we committed to. This is not about undoing any past. This is about closing a chapter that has affected livelihoods, relationships and the spirit of D161. Our staff, students and families deserve a year of calm, consistency and refocus. And to our educators, we have heard you and we will continue listening. And to our whole district, please, I'm asking for help in choosing professionalism, unity and maturity for the sake of our kids and in hopes that we can rebuild our culture of collaboration, respect and grace. So this is about it. Putting us on firm ground, almost as a hard reset to put ourselves in a better position to succeed moving forward. Nice. Any further comments or questions? Okay, so we have a motion. Can we get a roll call?
075What did we move it and second it? Yeah. Okay. I know we went into discussion. Can you clarify that an aye would be in favor? Oh, yes. Very good. So the motion was that the Board of Education approved to repeal and rescind the resolution of intent to non-renew administrative contract and reclassify principle that was voted on the April 7th, 2025 meeting. So an aye would be to repeal and rescind. Roll call, Patrick Oliphant? Aye. Adrian Chavez? Aye. Joy Murphy? No. Amy Burke? Aye. Ron Petrie? John Winter? Aye. Melissa Ryan? Aye. Motion carries. Moving on to 5C3. I move that the Board of Education approve to repeal and rescind the resolution affirming reclassification of a principle that was voted on at the April 16th, 2025 meeting. Can I have a motion? Yes. Motion. Second. Any discussion?
076Just to clarify the vote on that again. So it's aye, isn't it? Aye would be to repeal the final affirming reclassification. So roll call. Any questions? Roll call. Melissa Ryan? Aye. Amy Burke? Aye. Ron Petrie? Aye. Adrian Chavez? Aye. Joy Murphy? No. Patrick Oliphant? Aye. Amy Burke? Oh, John Winter, sorry. Aye. Motion carries. Moving on to six, superintendent and staff reports. Move directly into board member reports. So 843. So moving on to seven board member reports. We are very fortunate to have Mrs. Murphy attend the 843 meetings, if she can provide us with some updates. 843, these meetings are great. It was nice to hear that. And one of, they have an enrollment of total 105 students. And they were just so thrilled that three of their students have gone, they're now out of the
077program back into their homeschools. It's a big celebration when that happens. It's really just wonderful. There are 69 students at Pioneer Grove and there are 34 students in the self-program at Mokina. The transportation, they transport 629 students. We voted for the president, vice president, secretary and just regular consent agenda items, the bills list, financials. The one thing I found, it was just kind of funny. So CLIC is also their insurance, liability insurance. And they actually went up for their liability insurance by $30,000, but then they went down in their workman's comp insurance by $40,000. So it was just nice to see and she was very thorough and gave us lots of information. It's just a wonderful environment. That's really my report. It was great. Thank you so much for that. And I look forward to
078learning more about that with you. Love to come along with me. I know all of our buildings are hopefully and trying to enjoy time off in their summer, but do any board members have anything they'd like to share at this time? I did have something, wanted to get back actually to the staff that we did carry out the surveys that were completely anonymous and we made sure of protecting that so we can understand our staff and our teachers and where they are and our community and how we're working together. But anyways, Adrian, can you pull a little closer just so they can hear you? No. I should just stick to what I wrote. Want to just bring up and point out that we received and have and continue to review the staff surveys. There was
079some notes of like, hey, we put out these surveys and we never get heard. We want to make sure that you guys understand we are definitely digging into those and we appreciate all that time that you guys spent on those and there was people who spent a lot of time on them and all those that participated. And we wanted to echo back that that feedback is crucial to our district, especially for what I could say is a new board, us understanding our teaching body. We're working on trying to find out the best way where we can present those findings back to you. And we've kind of tinkered with some ideas of maybe doing some presentations at each respective school, just so we're kind of reaffirming and reflecting back to you guys that we're hearing you.
080And so we're working on that and just want to show that we're actively listening. Can I ask you where you got this information from? I haven't seen anything on the surveys yet at all, like not a word. I don't even know how many people took it. I know nothing, so. Oh, just information about the survey. So I know there was over 130. But I was wondering how Adrian got the information and I didn't. I just wondered. We're going to be sharing with the what? Yeah, it was the verbal we or the literal. I mean, it's okay. Yeah, we're all going to get it. I just thought I was missing something. Like, am I overlooking something that I didn't receive or? No, we're all going to get, our plan is to hopefully all get it and
081then share it. And then have, I was thinking doing something like a closed session where we go over it together. I don't think we can do that in closed. Well, I mean, I haven't talked through details and then ultimately share it with the staff and buildings at the start of the school year. Like after we've shared it with each other. Well, I just wonder, because he says we're digging into the survey and I haven't seen anything yet. And I've been kind of waiting. I've been anxious. So I just wanted clarification. Yeah. So I'll make sure I'll double check everything and make sure that everybody is on with the result, right? Is it still open or is it closed last Friday? Well, there had been a couple requests to keep it open. I need to shut
082it. Yeah. Okay. No, no, that's good. You know, and thank you. I work with Joy too. There were educators that reached out to us about how anonymous is it really, right? And especially since it was delivered to Amy in the form of Google Forms. And then, you know, the surveys went out through Google, which is, you know, being run by the district. You mind if I speak on this, Amy? So, but, you know, we were able, Joy and I were able to confirm to the educators that were out there that had concerns about the anonymity of it, that it truly is anonymous, meaning, you know, doing our research in due diligence, Google Forms is one of the safest ways to conduct an anonymous poll via email, because let's say, you know, it gets sent to
083an educator and the educator fills it out and sends it back, it automatically populates into a Google Sheet as an anonymous response. And if I'm correct, Amy, you as the, the ownership was immediately transferred over to you and you and you alone were the only person who would have the ability to see an individual response. If you even allowed the individual responses to come through, to which you never did. And I, right, I have no name, I don't know who answered, I couldn't tell you who answered the survey, who didn't. So I simply see numbers and responses. Yeah, no, it's, I just wanted on the record for everybody to understand that with this format and this process, absolutely nobody has seen who has responded, but the answers given, the well thought out answers given, automatically
084populated anonymously into a spreadsheet with everybody else's response. That would be an accurate statement, right? So I think it's just wanted to assure all of the faculty and staff who took the time to give their honest opinion. It's 99% safe, not 100. Because Amy, at any time, I think you could like click to see who, I do think there's a option on there. So it's like, that's why I'm a little, just Amy could definitely see as an admin. But she hasn't. Right, right, right. So that's good. Well, that's what she says, but I mean, still 99%. That goes back to section eight of the community relations. A lot of people didn't want to take it because no matter what we said, they still did not believe it was anonymous, so. Sure. No, I think we
085made an assumption. Thank you to those who did take the survey. We really appreciate it. Yes, thank you. You're trusted us. Yeah. And we are, I think the point Andrew was trying to make, we are taking this input seriously and we will address it all together and share decisions based off of that. Once we've all had a chance to look at it and see what you're saying, that that was the genuine intent and that it will be utilized. So, yep. Any other board member? Yeah, I got some. Additionally to that, Melissa Ryan and I went for our first financial meeting with Paul and Julie and it was open. Please, if you see these meetings pop up, please come. We want you to come. We want you to be an audience. So as we go through
086these things, as we ask questions, it does help for us to understand like what comes into the district, obviously what we're spending going out of the district. And so that was just our start. We just got started with it. We're gonna continue to have those and then continue to look at our budget and look at things that we can do to better the district going forward. So I just want to let you guys know that we did that and please come to those meetings. Same thing. We had a buildings grounds and safety committee meeting and it was our first one. It was great. And I would thank Brian for recapping some of the systems that we're putting in place to harden the building and alert people. And I think it's definitely a great step in
087the right direction. And thank you again to all the SEOs out there for your relentless, hard work. I know what it means to volunteer and we appreciate your heart so much. We know you do it for the kids and we thank you guys. And I wasn't at the last meeting, but I did watch the video. Mr. Snipes, I appreciate the fourth grade accelerated and the presentation that you gave with the data. It seems like it's gonna work well for the students. Thank you. And one thing I want to add is there was some questions and concerns brought to us about salaries of certain staff. And we are as always continuing to work down the line and make sure that all our staff are compensated fairly. So just recognize that we've received that information and anyone
088else? Okay, with that future meeting dates, July 9th, 2025 marriage administrative center at 7 p.m. Can I have a motion to adjourn? Moved. So moved. Second. Can I have a second? Second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? We are adjourned. Thank you.