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Westchester 92.5 Board Meeting - Jun 4 2026

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2026-06-05
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001Good evening. I'd like to call to order the uh June 4th special board of education meeting. Can I get a roll call, please? President Wes here. >> Vice President Board is here. Peterson >> here. >> Neil, >> here. Also present are Dr. Salani, Mr. Gra, Mr. Kaya, Mr. Leven, and Mr. Venice. Thank you. Join me in saying the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. U I need uh a motion uh to approve the board of education agenda as presented. Move >> by Cynthia. Second by Jared. Any questions or concerns? More call vote, please. Hi, >> Neil. >> Hi. >> I was hi. >> Five eyes. Motion

002carries. Audience comments. Moving on to uh consent agenda. As a reminder, the consent agenda items are those items, minutes, business or personnel matters that are routine in nature. Any item may be moved from the consent agenda to action items with discussion. All items on the consent agenda are approved with a single motion unless removed before the roll call vote. I need uh a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented. >> Moved by Jasha, second by Rose. All right. And just for um uh note tonight, we have on the consent agenda, we have uh sorry, scroll up. We have the personnel report which includes the hi the resignation of custodian art teacher and a PE teacher a bus driver retirement in the hiring approvals of a speech language pathologist and a self-contained cross categorical teacher

003as well as the second reading and approvals of policies 6160 7150 7190 and 7290. Any questions or concerns to the consent agenda? Okay. Um, roll call vote, please. >> I, >> president. >> Hi, >> Vice President Boyd. I have eyes n one abstain. Very good. Motion carries. All right. Um, next action items with discussion. I need a motion to open discussion for the approval of the bills in the amount of $3,100 into authorized payment. Move >> by Tashanda. >> Second by Jared. >> Um, anything you want to highlight there for us, Jennice? I know this is a short month, an unusual month. >> Just unusual meeting. >> The one billion that we're bringing forth. >> Okay. Any questions for those? Republic, please. >> Hi. >> Ortiz. I president Wow. >> I >> vice president Boyd

004>> I Pearson >> I Neil >> I six I zero Naz motion carries. Uh next I need a motion to approve to open discussion for the approval of the summer construction plan as presented. Moved by Cynthia. Rose, any uh questions or concerns? >> I have a couple questions and I'm not in my computer. So, please forgive me because I can't get in. I don't remember my password. I'm just I'm having a day. Just tell it's one of those days for me. >> I guess >> it's coming closer to you. I guess I would say that I am um I saw the questions that were asked and before those questions were asked, I was uh having those same thoughts as well about those not being presented earlier. And so I was just wondering and I'm just

005asking I know that there may be some reasons why we must do it but if there's some of those things that we can maybe furl long uh uh postpone >> sure >> there are me which so some that have to be done we have to be done then that makes sense but if they don't have to be done if we can kind of push them and I'm thinking about a lot of things in the back of my mind about like this we're still not resolved the contract contract negotiations and other things like that and what that's going to look like for us. So again, if they're imperative and you mostly will tell us that they're imperative, if they're not imperative that we could potentially move them, you know, push them out some from a project

006perspective. That makes sense. So the three of the four projects I would recommend moving forward with one of them is relating to boiler fluid piping that has dangerous gases that travel through that I wouldn't postpone that the staff lounge renovation discretion of the board of education through the three louners had has been renovated to be postponed discretion of the board of education The carpet at the middle school, which is this carpet right outside here, does create a hazard. When we extract the carpet, the carpet bubbles up a long time for it to settle back down oftent times well into the school year. We have the carpet on hand. We just don't have it in yet. I would recommend moving forward with that one. And then the final one, which is >> playground fence. It's part

007of a playground that we were building for the PFAs in the fiscal 26 budget. We just don't have the permit from the village. >> Wait, the fence is is is middle school. >> Is that wrong? >> The WPS >> WPS that is the primary school. So, we built a playground around the outside of the primary school. There's money in the budget this year to build the fence. was approved as part of the project. I just don't have the permit to get it done. So, I can't start the fence. >> So, this is a fence around a playground. That's clearly different than a fence here. Gota because I, you know, I'm at the primary school all the time thinking of my son. I'm like, I know they said they put a fence around it, but where's

008the fence? >> I'm waiting. >> Yeah. So, that's But we still don't have the permit, right? >> But I have been in communication with the village. The village is working with us on it. There's another project throughout Westchester. It's very similar to ours and they're just crossing their tees and dotting their eyes before they issue the permit because it's a little bit of a unique situation and that I'm asking the permit to extend all the way up to the concrete sidewalk. It'll be nice looking. It'll look good, but uh they're not used to and I we're not a house and it is technically the back of the property. It does comply with the city ordinance as it's written, but I do have to wait for those. >> So, of those projects, and I know you

009said mostly all of them will have to be done that you think three or four of them need to be done. >> The one for the fence was in the budget for this year. >> What about the other two that you said? >> They're not in the budget for this year. >> So, would it be detrime I mean, I know you said we need to have them done, but would it be detrimental to push them into next year? What do you mean by next year? >> Meaning if they're not in the budget for this year anyway, could we just move them to >> this fiscal year? Could we move them to next year? >> Well, I'm in the process of building fiscal 27 construction that happens. >> Most of this is majority fiscal 27. >>

010Okay. >> So, I'm looking to see if the board wants me to put this into the fiscal 27 budget. The blue piping I would not recommend. >> Of course, the hor definitely don't do that. Well, that's a risk. But I think that maybe we could potentially just I would just say if we could come like maybe split down the middle and say you'd have to do two and then if we could postpone the other two two different two and that's just me. I don't know how the rest of the board feels. I'm not speaking for everybody else but venture to say please go out and take a look at the decision. >> Take a look. >> Every time I'm here I'm like Mr. leaving these people. >> Like it's >> Let's put it this way.

011We have carpet that's 26 years old in this building. It does a better job than the stuff that was out here. And that was when we had the flood back here when the drinking fountain pipe burst. So all of this is new and it it it has been glued down probably three times now. once this year which is kind of held this this back that area and that's this is an area where every child travels all day so it's a high traffic here >> and we have the material materials this is just the installation >> and the reason why we delayed is because the permit is >> well not on the carpet >> not for the carpet the carpet I need funding to do the actual installation >> so why did we why wasn't this

012a part of our summer project in April I didn't think it was going to extend past the 15,000 when I started reaching out to people to find out. And the >> original plan was to just do this section here, but the entire hallway >> going all the way down to this corridor where the principal's offices are >> is asbesus free. So, I can technically rip that out of that news. So, if we're coming in with it, I'd rather go all the way down to where the asbestous is and just make it all look as dust as I can. >> Okay. So, you were thinking prior to April that you wouldn't need board approval because you thought it was going to be under the >> it's going to be under the threshold that you need for

013us to Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Okay. >> Yeah. And the playground to the because the same thing and then I love middle school, but if it was just like a fence I've got two two to five year, >> right? It makes sense. >> Okay. So then I guess only then it would be the one that we said we would >> one more question on the carpet. >> So I know everything has gone up in price. Is there a reason that it's gone up like over double from what you were expecting? >> Because of the area that I'm looking originally I was not looking to extend all the way back. put that again. >> You were just going to do this front, >> which is the worst of it. But when they extract

014in the summertime, >> it does bubble up and we we have a very hard time. >> Are you saying extract? >> We extract the carpets. >> Oh, they clean the carpet. Okay. Gotcha. >> So, we run an extractor over it multiple times throughout the summertime to get all the dirt and grime out of the carpets. >> Right. It's what keeps them lasting 20 to 25 years. But unfortunately, this section of the hallway, it bubbles up and we just have the darkest time to get those bubbles to collapse just due to the age of the carpet. Right. >> So, we're going to try the 2 by two carpet tiles down the hallway and see how that lasts. >> So, let me ask you, that's just one piece of it. We still have more that needs to

015be done, right? >> As far as >> more carpet other than that area, >> the entire building, >> but there's asbestous throughout. So, I have to be very careful as far as what I actually touch. And we have uh as a company that comes out does a three-year inspection and tells me exactly what areas of the building they have as they a nice little map. So I really can't >> it's it's very difficult not to know where speesus is through a very clean cut off at the end of this hallway. So I'd like to go from door 11 all the way down the hall >> basically to the asbestous mark. >> Exactly. >> So if so that I mean it makes sense to just do it. Um, but is there any No, no, no. I

016mean it that part for sure. Um, is there any downside to just sticking with this portion and then doing the rest of it later? >> That's what I was trying to think. Like are we going to do >> it hazard for students when they come back at the beginning of the year? That would be my only >> I guess I'm a little confused. So, because I only looked at this part right here. The rest of it looks like this. It's a different style of carpet. It This part out here was replaced as part of a workers and a general liability claim that we had where we had pipe burst and it flooded and the carpet had ripped out. They put us new carpet in this existing carpet going down the hallway. It was 20 to

01725 years old. And when we extract it, we put water. That's part of the process. And when we put the water, we get giant bubbles that just don't want to fall back down. >> Got it. And they eventually do, but it's well into the school year. >> Got >> and it's a slope going down and I'm worried nobody will trip. >> Makes sense. >> Okay. So, I guess that sort of explains three of them. And then there is the fourth one. So, you know, we could kick the can on the WPS staff lounge or >> what does it look like now? Is it >> is it just a room? >> It wasn't asked from the teachers. It was an ask or >> It was an ask. Yeah. They were like because they see that the

018other two buildings got it. Yes. Teachers were like, "Hey, >> but what did they have now?" >> Kitchen. I mean, it's functional. It's just not >> pretty. >> No, it's it's a copy room combined. >> Wall to divide to separate out the copy room kitchen. put in nice cabinets, nice countertops, make it look >> This doesn't include where they sit, right? Because they >> No, they sit in a back back. They have like a back room where this has tables. This is more like where they would prepare, >> do their warm up their stuff. It is something that could be moved to fiscal. >> Was there a plan to renovate theirs before they asked So this was something that I did not bring forth intentionally just due to funding constraints. I was delete this project.

019I was asked to put it back >> and it was just yeah it was just kind of thinking about >> sure and is like if was done maybe one year and middle school was done another year one was the year before. Right. I still think we have to factor in what we got coming before us. I understand. I mean, I do think it's important. I think the teachers are important. I know they know we think they are, but we got a lot of things that are still kind of unresolved. So, that just makes me a little nervous about >> that's just me. I'm not speaking for the entire court. >> So, a kind of technical or logistical um question. If we vote and approve you putting it into the budget, is that just an automatic

020like it's going to get done? I guess what I'm asking is if we approve it to be placed in the budget and then we get into a situation where you know the contract um is substantially more or even the carpet renovation, >> it's not a guarantee. Look what happened to the fs, >> right? So that's what I'm if it's possible get it done. >> Yeah. If it's >> not just that we can't get it done, but is there an opportunity I guess if the >> to pull back and some of the other So she's basically saying like say for example you do the carpet and the carpet still costs even more money as they start to get into they might have to do some remediation or something happens and that goes up to another 15,000.

021Will we be able to pull back something that's not necessarily an urgent map is what she's saying. Once we've already approved, right? Once you get once you get >> the faculty lounge revamp I was planning to do we could do over winter break or spring break. So it's not something that would even get done this summer. Yes, there would be opportunity if cost did arise. Okay. >> Yeah. So if you approve things change and we may have to just even it was approved >> okay that was my >> and all of these are not to exceed x number of dollars too you know. So, the fluid pipe, we use precision controls for our mechanical equipment. Um, I've been working with them. They gave me a number to put in the budget I got to go

022over. They think they can get that done with that. It's not your standard household flu. These are high efficiency boilers, I believe, on a type type of flu pipe, which >> very expensive. It has to be custom sealed just due to the high efficiency. And ours is currently >> right. So that's the urgency, the hype. >> And that's my worry like I'm 100% in agreement with that um project, but I worry that once it's in motion that there may be additional expenses that we're not expecting um even from what you were saying precision said they think they could get it done for that price, but it >> you deal with demobilization and mobilization. Anything could happen. I deal with government contracts. >> Oh yeah, we could do that. may be filing a claim because they

023started the work and what it might wind up costing them. They're using subcontractors. Ours are much larger scale of course, but still >> anything could happen in the midst of ex about flu piping is that it's all exposed and you have visuals on it. Otherwise, if it's something behind a wall or even when you bring up carpet, you realize they have floors floor leveler and we're going to have to rip that out. You know, there's a lot of hidden things, but flu piping is pretty straightforward. Okay. you just skip. >> So, is everyone comfortable that what I'm hearing? So, correct me if someone wants to um if I'm not capturing it, but that we would be approving the summer project as presented with the understanding that one, it is the perimeter fence at primary, not

024middle school like the the memo said. And then two, that we would switch sort of rank choice order that if we have to pull back on the staff lounge, we would pull back on the staff lounge as is what we could not afford. >> That make sense? >> Okay. >> Yeah, that's good. >> Any other questions? Sorry. All right. Roll call, please. Hi. Vice President Boyd. I >> I seven I zero to absent washing hands. >> Awesome. Um next for the firewall and Wi-Fi upgrade approval. I just want to let everyone know that unfortunately um Jacob was planning to be here. he had a a family emergency. So, I mean, he did present the stuff to us last meeting, but Dennis is going to pitch in and give it his best shot. Um, so that's

025why he is not that's the only reason he is not here. He just had a last minute um emergency. >> So, I need a motion to open discussion for the approval of the firewall and Wi-Fi upgrade as presented. Moved >> by Gina. Second by Cynthia. Okay. And as noted, this was presented by Jacob last week or last meeting. Um, and there's two memos in there. Um, right now the motion is to approve them both at the same motion. Obviously, we have the option to separate that if we want to adjust the motion, but let's just look at the Wi-Fi or the sorry, the firewall first. Any questions on the firewall purchase and installation? This is a company that we've already optim optimized networks. Yeah. So this is a total of 41,750. Am I looking at

026that right >> installation and configuration services for a total cost of 40 >> so or the firewall >> right >> so there's several quotes in here so is he giving us all the options or it is >> so I think he's given you that he went out to quote he had a little bit of a unique situation with this particular five so >> he did reach out to a bunch of different companies to get a pricing but the problem is is they want to sell you a They don't want >> he doesn't want anyone touching the network because optimiz has worked on it. >> Correct. >> They know that network like the back of the game, >> right? >> But CBW the work around that I haven't seen before. So it's very unique. >> Um

027so when Jacob reached out and said, "Hey, can you give me a price for a three-year fire uh firewall 11 Sonic Wall?" I actually called Sonic Wall and said, "Don't approve this to any other vendor. It's ours." >> So we couldn't actually But even though Optimize gave us a quote when they called back to try to get the contract, they said, "No, we won't we won't do it at Westchester." That's why he's recommending now five year because he was getting a better price than CDW was offering. So he opted from three to five to do a work around that. >> So which I'm still confused. There's so many different ones in here. Which one are we >> actually >> moving forward with? >> One, two, three. wall. >> Yeah, the memo. If you look down

028at the it says memo sonic wall NSA4800 is his memo. >> So I'm assuming the one we're looking at the quote is the second one, right? >> Yeah, it's a 5year that's a threeear I guess. You see what I'm saying? >> I'm m I was matching the number the NSA 4800. Okay, >> to the 4800. >> Got you. >> Am I wrong? >> So optimized is the fourth quote. It is the WC925 hope 15,000. >> Oh, that does say the right one. >> Yeah, you're right. That one says NSA 4,8002. >> Yeah. So, that's why I was confused. I'm like, what? So, this one is the one that's 46,000, right? >> 41. Okay. 41. >> So, some I'm looking got confused. So, this is the one that we want to go with. >> And is

029this where he anticipated it was going to be? I know we talked about it the last time. I think because we had to go to a three to a five, it's slightly higher, but again, we're still receiving better pricing >> pricing because we're g if you're doing fiveyear overall, it's going to work out to be better. Okay, >> gotcha. Okay, >> any other questions on the firewall. >> Okay, then going on to blow these open. >> I didn't have one. Oh, hi. I think you were at home and Jaylen helped you figure it out. >> Okay, so the next one is the wireless network upgrade. So, the memo is at the bottom and then the quote is Oh, yes. Okay. >> Definitely the 46,000. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, any questions on that one?

030>> How long is that renewal? >> This is three year. So the Wi-Fi I believe you get you own the actual devices but there's the subscription get you and that's the fiveyear subscription >> years I think he said you can still run them you just cannot fall >> is it five or is it three yeah it's 20 to 29 it does I don't know if that's a threeear license >> it does licensing and support through June June 2029. >> Three. >> Any questions or concerns on that one? >> All right. Roll call, please. President. >> Hi. >> Pearson. >> Izz. President. Hi. Seven. I z. Motion carried. All right. Moving on to the discussion items with no action. Just as we just talked about the tenative fiscal year uh 27 budget discussion a presentation for

031us right? >> Oh yes website though. I will tell you I do open the other the other two attachments, the form and the budget and like those spreadsheets. I mean more hands to I mean like no power to you because I was like that's intense. >> That's just the actual budget spreadsheets like >> oh my god. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. May 14. >> Turning back the clock over there. >> All right. So, the first few slides are pretty standard. They precede all my tenative budgets. Kind of go through why we do a tenative budget. We'll do those a little quicker. So, what is the purpose? Meet the requirements composed by Illinois law. Provides the district with spending and taxing authority and satisfies the minimum level for financial information for local, state, and federal governments. Tenative

032budget is required to uh be developed with revenues and expenditures. It must be adop uh must be published of where, when, and during what hours it can be inspected at least 30 days prior to adoption. we adopt in September a little while in advance of that. Accurine of the budget must be held prior to action being taken on the budget. We do that also in September and by September 30th the board must approve the filing requirements. We must file it with Illinois State Board of Education by the first. We also file it clerk and it must be posted on the website. some of the budget assumptions. Um, so possible revenue issues from the state of Illinois. There's there's a lot of unknowns going on budget. So, normally when I come up and present a tenative

033budget to you, I tell you that the budget's pretty solid. It's not going to change by not telling me that issue. >> There's a tenative budget, but there are just a lot of unknown possible revenue issue from the state of Illinois. We normally get four categorical payments from the state. Right now, we've received three. So, I'm holding my breath to see if I get another one in June. Hoping I do, but that would cause a cascading event to where this gets pushed now into fiscal 27. Are they going to give me normally you always get one of your categorical payments in the following year? They only pay out three. So it's normally one from fiscal 25 and fiscal 26, three from fiscal 26. One of your fiscal 26 flows into fiscal 27. Now we're looking

034at a scenario where potentially two of them might get pushed to fiscal 27. So what's that going to mean for fiscal 27? Just we're hoping to get that. Um so there's some possible issues there. We do have uh some other contractual stuff. Normally I budget based on known. There's a lot of unknown when it not a lot but there are some unknown factors when it comes to actually computing the budget. Um property taxes has been pretty standard 97% collection rate co we saw some but that stabilized since then. So I don't have any issues that are budgeted based on actual receipts for corporate replacement taxes. Uh corporate replacement taxes spiked really high in fiscal 22 but they've since come back down. We're kind of getting back to the level pre-COVID where those corporate replacement taxes

035will be at. So we're we saw a lot of revenue coming from corporate replacement taxes for a few years that settled down interest lunches and tuition based on actual collections. We have seen over the years a slight shift uh when it comes to lunches and that also impacts fees and that we're seeing our free and reduced numbers go up which means more free and reduced revenue less actual payments from tool launches and the same impacts of fees. of those are slightly taken into account but I it's not material enough where I need to if I take actually was collected it's a pretty good basis for for the other talked a little bit about those categoricals that's that's a concern of mine federal revenue we do have some things sunsetting we saw a lot of the

036ESSER funding go away we still have a stronger connections grant which is part of the funding that we got in fiscal 26 that we're not going to get in fiscal 27 We'll probably see a little bit of carryover where I file my June 30th expenditure report. I would get reimbursed for that, but that actual revenue won't have something fiscal 27. We have a little bit there, but not any actual rant expenditures 7 salaries that that was one of the ones of the unknown that they just don't know at this point. So, I asked to be conservative and put something in there, but it's it could change. Employee benefits are known purchase services I reach out to the departments. I have a pretty good handle on those. Supplies I have a pretty good handle on as

037well as salaries salaries which can impact benefits not your medical but your th instances but IF so your pensions your FICA those will be impacted as well. So I have placeholders out there. I don't have the actual numbers though. >> That's a good question. >> Absolutely. I think you've said before, but correct me if I'm wrong. Like usually when you're budgeting these employee benefits for new positions, like known new positions, you usually put that they're going to take the highest. >> I do. >> Um it would be family. Okay. So then knowing so hopefully you're budgeting big and if they take less then it's less. we will see some some decreases in that regard because I do conservatively put the highest number out there thinking that worst case scenario it's what I'm presenting to the

038board. It can only get better from here, right? But I do try to budget conservatively like that. So the swing that I'm anticipating is that this number at the end is actually a smaller sub number and not bigger. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. So revenues we have property taxes coming in at 16,546 payment taxes at 230,000. You can see it's a pretty big decrease from the previous year as we get back into the post precoid levels. Uh interest launches and tuition 760,000 state sources 2.4 4 million federal sources 956,000 other sources 245,000 total of 21 million12,000 compared to 21,743,000 year. >> Can I ask a question there? >> Absolutely. >> So yes, real quick. Um is that has that was that our trend last year that our revenues went down >> last year? Not a

039typical trend, but you see some sets of federal governments, but some of the states sources going down. Yes. >> So, was it the same last year? Did it go down or did it >> certain categoricals? Did >> overall? Were we flat overall or did we go Huh? >> It went up last year. So, this is actually what you're forecasting is lower. >> It's still a tentative budget right now. So, it can change. I'm hopeful that the numbers will get better as more information comes my way. >> The other thing about the categorical payments, how many have you gotten so far for this year? Uh, >> three, one from last year. >> Now, when you said, is it 300,000 per payment or is it 300,000 period for the year? And here it says >> it was

040just an example that was given. >> Oh, so that wasn't the actual amount. >> That's just an example. But uh so we get well over 300,000. We get close to 500,000 just in transportation for the year. >> Oh, okay. So this was just an arbitrary number. >> Yeah. Just give you an example of what could happen because still >> is that number is it evenly if it's is it spread evenly across the board? So say if it's a million do you get 250 250 250 you understand what I'm saying? >> No, that's what I'm asking. So, cuz I'm trying to figure out what percentage of the money have we gotten. Even though we have a payment outstanding, I'm trying to understand what that percentage Oh, what is the percentage? So, have we gotten 50% of

041it or have we got that's what I'm trying to figure out and get to? >> I'd say roughly around 50%. >> So, we've gotten 50%. Okay. >> But it's fiscal 26 money that we were supposed to get. Mhm. >> That last payment if we get it before June 30th, that would put approximately threequarters of the money in fiscal 26 and allow that one payment to fall in fiscal like it typically does. That's pretty standard. >> Okay. >> However, there has been a year about eight or nine years ago that this very similar situation happened that it did actually cascading events where we're playing catch. Where do these funds go for those payments? What what fund balance of these folks? >> The categoricals. >> Yes. >> Mostly in education, but transportation gets some of the categorical

042expenditures as well. >> Okay. Because I was just wondering how that impacts everything else as we're going through and so it doesn't fall into that construction part. It's just Okay. >> And is there is there need patterns to it? Like do you do you see like the transportation money come in more frequently than the educate or is there just >> pretty much either I don't get like sporadic categorical categorical are released and coming up. >> Okay. Thank you sir. >> Absolutely. >> Oh sorry I have one more question on this slide. >> Sure. >> Can you remind me what other sources of funds like what factors into that? >> That's mostly transfers. >> What is it? transfers. >> Oh, transfers from that works. Okay. >> Revenue coming in, but that's from the expenditure. So, they

043wash. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, that's me proposing to take money from the working cash fund, move it to the capital project fund, expand the capital projects, and then also moving some money from the educational fund to the debt service fund to pay for copies. And you know because Dennis absolutely loves the budget you know he loves to present this thing like 40 times like what he doesn't necessarily have to but like we are trying to show you know right I even like we are ahead of even the rules right but this is about get so like it does think that we don't have a lot of >> factual right so but it's to give you guys the idea so we don't get like don't like you know this year the numbers aren't going

044to get >> you know and we may very well like we have like what we have 26 days left in this month and we're praying right like that we do get together because that would make things a lot different if he comes back in July. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> We get I know it changes and we'll see this probably five more times. >> You will have time to see it. But yeah, >> another issue that I'm struggling with on the revenue is is county gave us all of our property taxes, right? But they didn't owe us and I the township charger is still waiting. never got like where to put. So right now I'm kind of playing with like the treasur put the money in certain funds but I don't know if that's where it's

045going to land. So are fund balances a true representation of what they should be >> you know >> well there are things that I'm kind of holding my breath and like wow this is a first time experience like this >> a lot of unknowns have good >> budget >> but thanks for being on top of it. I know it's it probably is unsettling for you not to have harder black and white. I do this all the time. >> Oh, no. So, with the tenative budget, I'm just looking to put something out there >> that's I like to be at least 90% accurate so that we can start spending money and then in September we have the actual budget. something significant changes I would hate to the board that hey get ready like this is and

046one thing though that you know the budget did pass and I know I don't want to steal Cynthia's stunner for the month when it comes up but there >> there there was very much concern what I was being told at my meetings >> you mean the state budget >> state budget but we were told that like transportation and the special ed funding was going down and actually increased how much it impacts us like at least The increase means that we shouldn't see it our numbers go down. We just know how much more we're going to get because our costs keep going up. But if they were going to decrease that, that's already putting us in a worse hole, right? So they at least added they were not even going to do that. What I heard

047I think probably all those discussions they had >> that was just a recent >> but we still don't know what that means for like we just know that the state got this bucket and now we've got to figure out what our piece of it. always interesting for those categorical payments too because while I view what we should get the state never pay they never accept but they always so I have to determine are they going to give us 80% of what we're supposed to get 75% >> okay >> well one more question on the other sources >> um is that the decrease I know you said it sort of washes but the anticipated decrease is that because our special education costs are going up. So students, transfer students that come in may need more services.

048It may cost more. >> The other sources of fund is actually and it's just a transfer fund now. >> Sorry, you said transfer, not transfer students transferring money. >> But you're saying about special ed, if our get more special ed kids in and they need more services and it's not just in the school, right? If we're outsourcing that then that is where cost and because we didn't expect we we have our numbers. Yeah. We know who we have and then when you get kids coming in and they need to be sometimes they're coming in already outsourced and then you just take them and >> Yep. That's what >> is that correct? Like the transfer is meaning transfer from one fund to another. >> Yes. >> Got it. >> I thought the same thing when he

049said transfer and I caught that he said funds. >> So interest is also one that I'm projecting to go down slightly just based on not having the the fund balances within our funds the entire time in the year. We're probably going to see less interest in this coming year again. So interest lunches and tuition is slightly down because of that state sources just the categoricals we're going to lose funding. When I put this number out here we didn't have the announcement they were going to add that additional funding. So that's something that >> could play in our state. >> Good news. So >> but we may wind up if we don't even increase at least being rake. You know what I'm saying? mean it doesn't. >> Yeah, that'd be nice, but I have to run

050through the numbers and look at that's why I was putting out there that this is tentative. There were a lot of unknowns when I did this one. >> Okay. >> And just a piece of information came in earlier this week that was good. >> Okay. All right. >> So, looking at that though, 79% real estate taxes, corporate replacement taxes about one, 3.25 25 on interest earnings other local at 1.5 evidence-based funding at 6.75 restricted state aid at 11.75 and restricted federal rate at 4 and a.5%. >> Yeah. >> Expenditures looking at $17.4 million in the educational fund operations and maintenance at 1.9 that service at around a million transportation fund at 1.4. four retirement fund at $518,000, capital projects at $173,825,000, working cash fund at 225,000, and to fund at 306,000. We did see a

051pretty big increase in our general liability and workers comp, which was pretty standard from what I heard reaching out other business managers. We saw similar increases. Looking at this as salaries, benefits, and such, we can see that salaries went up by 392,000, bringing us to 11 million, roughly 100,000 late benefits. We had a big jump there. Your insurance costs for medical went up by 2% on average. So 2.8 for the 259,000. So it's a big number, big increase. When we look at most of our revenues coming from real estate taxes at 79% knowing that that's limited to the lesser of the consumer price index are 5%. And that you know employee benefits went up by 18%. That's >> we're always going to be chasing it. >> Purchase services at 2,991,000 supplies at 1,251,000. capital outlay

052at 747,000. Other objects at 4,100,000. Other objects includes our out of district tuition. It does include our bond payments from smaller but out of district tuition and bond to that and then non- capitalized. >> Any questions regarding the tenative budget? Please keep in mind these numbers are tenative. It will change by the time you see this again in June. Will definitely change by the time you see it in September. >> I'm estimating a change between now and September of 10 to 15%. >> Gotcha. Favorable. Ya. >> All right. Any questions for Dennis? >> We'll see this a few more times. So >> 16th one. >> Awesome. Thank you, Dennis. >> Thanks, Dennis. >> Um, audience comments. Okay, seeing none. Um, a motion for the board to retire into close session to discuss the unemployment compensation,

053discipline, performance, or dismissal of specific employees. uh litigation when an action against, affecting or on behalf of a particular public body has been filed or is pending before a court or administrative tribunal um or when the public body finds that an action is probable or imminent in which case the basis for the finding shall be recorded and entered into the minutes of the coast meeting. Collective negotiating matters between the district and its employees or the representatives or deliberations concerning salary schedules for one or more classes of employees and student disciplinary cases or matters related to individuals. Rose, I'll second roll call vote, please. McFersonage, >> hi boy. Hi 79 carries at 6:49. >> All right.

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