0014:00 call to order the board of education facilities committee meeting which is special pro. I knew that we uh what we'll call >> it going to be treasure code I guess we need one of those >> we should at le John the temporary uh >> pro treasure prom my motion do you a second vote roll call I We'll do roll call. >> Abby Walsh. >> Walsh. Here. >> Yep. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. facility. >> Yeah, I saw that. Okay. Yeah, we're gonna get I'm gonna pick up when we get to >> when we get to the adoption of agenda, which is now >> of the meeting. >> Yeah. I move that
002we correct the meeting uh the accept the minutes, but correct the title. Um change that from commission to committee. >> Yes. infertility >> singular. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Second motion. >> All right. Any further discussion? Okay. >> And matters on that. called that up. He wanted to meet with a couple board members and that's why we're having this meeting and >> you're up, sir. Okay. >> Right here on the agenda, correct? >> Yeah. >> Okay. I have Mr. points here and he since we don't have anybody here that really is involved in this dayto day such as our business and operations director, superintendent, treasurer, uh Mr. Croitz is uh fully capable and has all the information you can see has stacks of information there. First, we want to talk about the roof repair. Mr.
003Croitz, can you talk about where we are right now on the roof repair? Um yes, the uh safety uh all the stuff that goes along with being on the road is going to happen on Wednesday. The u the work will proceed after that. We are waiting on a signed contract. The work will progress this week. >> Signing or signed contract? >> Signed contract back from the >> Oh, we're waiting for that. Sorry. Thank you. So, we signed our waiting for their signature. How do you spell your last name? >> K R E U T Z. >> Thank you. >> All right. And you said Wednesday's the we're waiting on the signed contract, but Wednesday's >> Wednesday's safety and then you don't have to start on itself. >> Well, it'll proceed after all the safety stuff.
004They have different parameters put up. Gotcha. All right. >> Can you refresh my memory? Who the company progressing? I think you have talked about that in your call. >> Yeah. So, um, Mr. Courts has been great. Uh, we did the radon testing over the long weekends. We just recently received our results back. We're working on communication with everybody about those results. Uh >> do you have this? >> Uh yes. So so some of the ones that we just completed are only drafts. So they're initial uh the company is is u Andy and Associates have have printed out are just drafts. But the absolute ones they get sent out for a third party to actually everything together. So, >> what were the levels? Were they different in every >> Yeah, they're they're different in in different
005uh areas. For instance, um Groport Elementary, Central Glen Denning, and South, they're all clear. There's there was two rooms at Glen Denning, but we have since retested and they dropped below so that we can take a So, those are all done. Um, the ones that we're going to have problems with are, as you know, Dumbo already, but uh, Madison, Asbury, and Sidelia. Sadelia is not as bad as the other two. >> What are their levels? >> Uh, well, um, Madison and Asbury were very close to levels as was Dunlow. So, you have some 20s and 30s. Sadelia is basically They have two that are in the eights and most of the rest are all four, fives and sixes and it's only about half that building. Little over half. I'd say nothing in the mod. The
006mod is clear. >> Okay. What are your thoughts about um improve rather than just sucking air out with fans or improvements to the overall air? So, um I believe that question came up at demo and we looked at that. Um it was it wasn't an easy fix just because of the the systems that we had in place. So, it would have been much much more costly than just doing the medication. >> Um so, yeah, I mean I don't know how far that went. They looked into that but >> we haven't done like an efficiency model like a payback higher efficiency and higher air volume. >> Well, it hasn't. So the the units that are put in right now, the single classroom and hallway units in those three schools are single units and they were the
007most efficient at the time. You talking about mitigation? Are you talking? >> No, I'm talking about the HBAC UAVs. And the problem with them is the more outside air you introduce into them, the less effective they are to heat. >> Right. >> So that that's part of where our hands are tied as far as what we can do. >> From what I understand, if you can create greater envelope pressure, that also helps get radon. >> Yes. Yes. And no. You lose that pressure every time doors open. Yeah. So, it's not the best way to fix it. >> So, you said some of them were under eight. Are we going to like just do retesting on those a little bit later since they're under that threshold? >> Retesting is uh it is going to happen. We
008do not have a date on that yet. We do have um the proposal for um the asbestous because we with the ones over eight obviously we can't retest and get them under four, >> right? >> Because we have to have a zero and then we're still above eight. >> Um so we went to the next step which is to do your asbesus sample and then we know >> you're doing the asbestous with the right. Yes. Yeah, it will be tested again. >> I didn't know that that was a thing. Okay. >> When was our last question? >> So, um the asbesus test will be for the sampling of the materials that we have to go through when we do the radon mitigation. >> The same is done. >> Okay. >> Um understand >> we it's
009kind of overlapping. I don't know Paul, do you want me to go on on this or how you want to attack on? >> It's important to be clear. We're doing the asbestous sampling to start to understand you know if we can put in our mitigation system where we do that and then what's effective. So where the construction is that's where >> correct. Okay. >> Yeah, that's that clear things up. So this is sampling as it relates to the mitigation to the radon only not doing the complete. >> So along those lines Dunlow was done the floor tile which we have to go through the tile >> right >> we had to go through the ceiling tile >> which was all mitigated. It was hot as well as the floor tile was hot as well but
010we did a a bag a bait while we drilled it. the tile camp actually came out in the hallways and then they also tested the roofing material, piping material, anything that we could disturb that was part of that project. >> So in the overall scheme of do are we current with our testing like have we done one since 21? >> So so testing is different than the Ahira program. >> Okay. >> What program? The HIA is uh I forget what it stands for, but it's held um every every school district has to have an AER plan. We do have that. >> What what's the what are the what's the abbreviation? H A >> A H E R A. >> Yes. >> Okay. We can find that. Okay. Um and unfortunately when when I came here
011the Ahira plans were already in place but there was not very much sampling done. So there the Ahira plan only covers what might be asbesus. >> Okay >> until we do a sampling and we have splattered samplings throughout the district based on whatever our need was. Okay. Once they do the sampling that gets entered into the the hero book as effect >> if it's hot if it's not hot after three years it can come off. >> Okay. >> Again, we've done sampling in different projects in different schools but not everything in the district has been sampled. But the Ahira plan doesn't call for sampling. It just calls for what could be. And we have a PL on every school plan. It has to be updated >> every three years. We're supposed to do the >>
012has been done. >> Okay. We are we are current with all the inspections. Not >> we have a folder uh facilities folder on the G drive for the board members and for the facilities committee. The latest one that's in there is 2021. Do you think you can update that for us to the 2024? That would be right. 2024. >> What What did you call that again? The facility for the board. >> This is the last one that's in there. This one here. That's what he's talking about right there. H. >> That makes sense. I'm thinking our dates are off because we just did a three year. It just it probably wasn't updated on this >> this year. This form was done. November 2021 is the last. >> We're not saying that's the last time it
013was done. We're just saying it's not on the board. >> That's all we can see. >> So that's >> I'll show you after meeting. >> Okay. >> Yep. Paul, we uh where all the information is in the boardroom or your board over there. Uh there is thumb drives for all that. It's all digital as well as >> a matter of putting it on the drop. >> Yes. >> And I haven't looked at the driver because facility committee hasn't met for a long time. I think we probably were at the last 20 maybe. I don't know. >> It's been a while. >> Yeah, it's been a while. So, >> okay. As far as the asbestous sampling, are you guys okay with that? >> Yeah. I understand. Okay. Uh the mold inspection uh and mitigation of that
014with we we're still waiting on the inspection. It's actually happening tonight. It's actually happening right now. It is. So, uh based on that inspection, then we'll come up with a plan and I'm sure Mr. Groom will share that with you guys. But the mold uh came to us uh reported to us from the principal. Then we inspected it. Um I really from for myself didn't see any mold but that doesn't mean there isn't any. So we wanted somebody a professional come in and do the inspection. But in the meantime we went ahead and thoroughly had the all the classrooms and all the areas in the portables disinfected, cleaned. We wiped down the walls. We wiped down all the tables, anything that's touchable. We cleaned out the vents. We took the vent register covers out. uh
015cleaned those and repainted them and put them back in. But um we'll see what the inspector says today. >> Did you see any evidence of moisture getting in? >> I I didn't see any. >> Do we have Do we get We kind of skipped over air quality, I think. But >> where's that indoor air quality? Where is that? >> Oh, you're going by this, but I can go by this. That's right. Oh, okay. >> Oh, this here. This was >> by this. >> All right, we'll take a pause on that. Go back to the indoor. >> Do we have do we get regular indoor air quality reports from our vendor? >> We do not. >> Do you think it would be helpful? I mean, I'm not I don't think it's anything that is specified or
016that we have to do. >> Um I'm not I'm not sure what it would tell you to be honest. >> Okay. >> Give you any more information. >> What was the report you said? Like it's just an air quality control air quality report. Sometimes that can be part of your maintenance contract for HC vendors. I didn't know if you had any. So then when you get a report of mold, are we are we able to ourselves determine like moisture content? >> Not in house. >> Okay. >> No, we do I mean obviously like you said, we clean it all up um and then we go to Gandandy um which is where we get air quality. We have done some air qualities when we've had problems. Um, but even tonight, the first thing he's going to
017do in those mods is once he does surface, he's got to do a speestous because he can't break open the walls until he finds out what the material in the wall or that the walls made up of has it has to be a we have had roof problems there. So, that could be part of the water, you know, that's that's in the >> Yeah. I mean obviously if we can if we had a way of determining moisture right then that would help with the mold because it takes moisture to make mold dry room that might help you answer your question. If you've got 10% and somebody thinks there's mold on chairs and you're probably right in assuming it's not mold because it takes a certain amount of humidity to create it. We want to make
018sure. >> Right. >> John, to your uh one of the things he says about our HBAC contractor, we are not in contract with any. We have our own guy that handles all buildings. >> HAC is in house. And when it comes to us, the sampling, inspection, any I guess remediation efforts. Do you think it makes sense to have anyone on staff coming for that? >> Um, so all custodians are trained in the Aera program. >> Okay. >> So, they're all aware. Um, I don't know how many years it's been now um since they had that. And we have a big you know changing of people but um they are all trained in it. There is um designated personnel as well. So um to your point that's already in place. Um each principal has their own
019book. If the public would want to go in and um they would have a question like they came from another school that had asbestous was worried about their child, they could ask for that school um their manual to see if we do have a which we do. >> Yes. So our policy says we should be testing that every three years and then doing periodic surveillance every six months. Um they should have and that should be like you said at each school. Um I think one of the guidelines from EPA say you should have that available just on your website makes it easier I would think for um Ty can properly answer this. Uh I don't know when the audit was from the national EPA. Uh we were audited but Dave satisfied everything with them and
020we added some statements to the website about the Ahira program. >> Correct. >> I don't remember exactly but >> yeah there's there should be something to that point on the website. >> What I was getting at is like like minor abatement issues. Would it make sense to have any of our staff train? So that's a to do an abatement that's a whole different issue. Um part of your problem is not only in training the people but the equipment. Um we we're allowed um for instance we just did um trying to think what school that was. Sadelia we did a hot water tank switch and some of the elbows were as we had they were in the plan. We called to see if they definitely were before pulled anything out. >> They did the abatement. You're
021allowed so many square feet to do it bag, which is a very simple one and and not as costly as a pure abatement. It allowed us to do the switch out a hot water tank. >> So, we all but the testing and the removal of that. >> Oh, we didn't do >> we did the hot water tank, but not the removal. Again, it's it's a slope. That's a slippery slope when you go. >> Uh I don't think it would be cost effective because of the amount of equipment you would need and what little that we would we actually have to do. All right. >> So, the other thing I noticed in our I just noticed it is that the radon should be we should be um tested every five years. Are we doing that? >>
022Um I don't know that. >> Okay. And I >> don't I don't think it is >> policy requirement or policy >> and the asbestous the ones that I read before were from the policy not >> so >> but the state does have >> you you read >> asbestous every three years rate on every five years. >> Yeah. Every three years. Um and then evidence of surveillance within the past six months. So the way I see that is like six months. >> So where was that from? >> And then that's from our policy. >> Oh policy. Um Ervo Charlie Romeo. >> Yes. >> Okay. And that does that >> and Romeo? Yes. >> Does that cover both um both systems radon and >> both are in there? Yes. >> Um >> the asus is happening the
023radon I believe. I don't know. >> Our state was ever done. >> I wasn't able to find anything that says our state does that. Other states are doing that, but our state is not one of them. >> So, but that's >> but it's in our policy. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> That may be something >> if we want to change it less. I don't know if you want to change less restrictive or not, but you could at least let us know. because these are administrative policies policy committee to review. >> Yeah, that's pretty. >> Um, >> okay. >> So, we're back. Is that all with that, John? >> We had uh compliance and communication update. Is that it? Well, I I don't know if you want to talk about the financial impact >> or are
024we going back to this? >> Oh, wait. You were done with mold, though. Isn't that the only place you had? >> I was telling you, we're getting our inspection done right now. So, based on the inspection or the results, we might need to do more inspection or more testing. Then, we're going to come up with a plan and I'm sure Mr. G will share that with you. >> Yeah. And then um the financial impact is that to pay for this is going to come out of the general fund program, >> but we don't have any idea yet, >> right? Um it would it would be inappropriate for me to guess on this because it could come it could be less than Dumblow or more than correct Mr. >> Yeah, I think the systems will be
025very much the same because they're the same schools. Um but the asbesus test will show what we have to do and that's where the variable comes in moneywise. And and in addition to that is like uh Dunbo had a couple rooms come back by and we are having to add mitigation systems in there. I just met with them as well today. They're not adding systems. We're going to add u some more locations. Try and get more airflow under this lab in the gym. Uh the systems are there. Most of the systems in the school itself down the hallway handle four or five classrooms depending on size. Um the system that's handling the kitchen and the gym are they're that's the only thing they're handling. So they think they can put more um through the slab
026and still use the same system. >> And that is you're focusing on that >> download. We already did. >> No, that's the one we did. We still have two places that are high. >> You mentioned Asber though, right? >> Asbury is high. That has to be done. >> So that's definite. And then Madison's four to six was about 20 also. >> Okay. >> And Chadelia was >> to. >> So are you gonna um Madison and you need to do definitely. And then are you gonna just retest on Sidelia after >> yes >> 30 days or whatever. >> So we again I only have the draft >> so we can't retest until the actual comes back and then once that's back we'll retest. Um we we do have the proposal for the asbestous at Sidelia because
027we know we're going to have to put systems in. won't be as extensive as the other three, but we're starting the asbestous inspection there sampling. >> I thought you said the was four to eight. Is that the one we would wait on in retest? It's not above eight. I mean, it's at eight, but it's not above eight. >> Four is the number we have to be below, >> right? But typically, don't they say it's under eight that you would retest and then just come back to it? >> Yes. But again, the ones that are above eight, retesting isn't going to help. We can't get them below four. >> Okay. So, we know we have to do a mitigation there. >> Okay. >> So, that's why we're going ahead and starting the SBS sample. We're hoping
028that some of the rooms that are close to four and low fives that retesting will get them below so that we don't have to mitigate those rooms. >> So, you're just doing the eight is a definite and then the other one. >> Perfect. Since we know we have a system there, even though it's going to be smaller, we're starting to ask >> and we're also under clock because after a certain date, depending on the temperature, we won't be able to do these tests. Correct. >> That is correct. >> Right. And we have in place already to u start the asbesus testing in both Madison and Asbury because we know we have to do that and we need that to see how many places we have and what's hot in order to give a price for
029mitigation. >> Right. >> So those are already in place. >> That's great stuff. So what kind of buses do we have in the little older elementary schools just mainly? >> Well, with flooring comes mastic rubber base. Um you also have u most of the piping for domestic water. Also we have chiller systems in them units in the classrooms all that water piping. And it's normally typically it's not the piping, it's just the elbows, >> right? >> Um and then you have ceiling tile, you have roofing materials. >> So we have we have those. Yes, sir. >> Meaning that the tile was made with >> correct. And that was that was some of the original tiles. Yeah, we did have one test in that folder that I was telling you about one of the schools where
030they tested all the floor. Now, we've tested ceiling at Central because we had a complaint and >> I'm pretty sure >> to my knowledge it wasn't tile. >> But they did not test the base because we didn't have to go through the base. We only tested where we were going to disturb >> and over time I'm sure >> 2x4 and we did replace everything in the hallway that was all evaded >> and that's all replaced now >> will be updated according >> when was that >> that was done in 20 analysis and it was done at I'm pretty sure it was just with Asbury and that was the only place was done >> this the tile. >> Yes, that was 9 by9 tile in the gymnasium asberry. >> Yeah. >> And we we took it
031up. It was not as >> 9 by9 tile. Never seen not but it was not That's >> the music room too. They check the music room there. >> Maybe not. Maybe not. Wait a minute. Okay. >> Anyhow, that was that was another one that's in that drive. Got some other stuff in there. >> Okay. So, is there Yeah. Is there state law that you're mentioning delayed levels but what when you say at eight or at 10 we have to what what is that? What drives that? >> So uh my knowledge of this is schools have to be under >> based on what we don't have. >> We do. >> Yes. It has to be under four. Houses are much higher. >> Okay. >> Um >> and we we consulted with them when we discovered >>
032correct. >> Yes. Because we u Yeah. Because they were so high um and in transparency, you know. So when I say eight, for instance, um Glen Denning's two rooms. Yeah, there was a couple that that tested above four. When we when we retested, it was 4.3 the first time, 3.6 the second time. So that's below. uh when you average it. So then that's that's okay. We had uh 4.3 and it went to 2.4 in the other room. That's 3.4 for an average. So then then we don't we don't have to test again and we don't have to mitigate. Whereas Sidelia when you have two rooms at 8.2 and 8.8 there's no way to retest and get them below four. So we know that we have to mitigate in that building. The other 20 rooms are
033somewhere between four three and it looks like 69. So those by retesting we can get below four if we get a low enough read the second time which will cut out some of these rooms that we have to mitigate. So there's no high law requirement requiring test and there is and so if you've had these schools in this condition for 30 years and majority of schools in Ohio don't test. Um I guess there's a lot that occurs to me. Why why once we test does it all sudden become an emergency when I don't think logic would dictate that much has changed in those schools over the past 20 30 years. Why is this? I know somebody complained about air quality, right? Employee or something about radar specifically. >> Yeah, they don't have from what my
034research >> probably >> radon has no short-term health effects. Radon takes radon is something that's like >> lowle cigarettes. >> It takes a long time. >> Yeah. Yeah. So if I'm immediately ill and I've been working in the school for five years, that's not relevant to radon, >> right? >> So I guess I'm I guess I I appreciate the of the importance and urgency of it, but at the same time it's like have have we all tested our homes and we we all live in in in fear of radon? This all seems to be like, "Oh, now that we've done this testing, we all of a sudden tripping over ourselves for immediate cure when actually there's no law or anything. This is all just a high department of health standard. It's not anything that's required
035of us. What's what's your back there?" And there's a whole world of debate over lowle radon even hurting people because there's maps in the United States that show people show low dose radiation areas have lower concentrations of lung cancer than the rest. Well, I don't I don't know the whole medical thing behind it, but I I would say that >> at least from my standpoint. One thing is if somebody complains about it, then you know, Jamie and Paul have always been, hey, we need to find out about well then once we had Dunlow tested and actually we only tested the one room where she was at, >> right? >> Once it's high, you know, then we test the whole school. Of course, then Jamie's like, "Let's test all our buildings because the union is going
036to >> I understand, but I'm I'm pointing at the logic." >> Well, here's the other thing. You have it in your for policy to do every five years. >> Um, also, but to John's point, like heart the association says if it's a or less that, you know, you can follow up with long-term test like 90 days to get a better average. not going to be there in 90 days. We're not going to it's not going to be heating. How old is our HBAC systems in these location? >> So, you're saying that should be updated possibly. Would that be a better option than >> Yeah. Well, here's the funny thing. >> So, you're saying that once the air condition kicks off? >> I'm not saying that. I'm saying that we only um we only are allowed
037to test in the six months. That's that's a staple. Why is that? >> Because the building's closed. So if you're if you're in the summer and you have the windows open and you have doors running in and out and the and the heating system isn't running, whether it's the air or nothing, you know, no heat or any of that. That's why they say you got to test at at this time of year. And the other thing that we did is when we tested over the weekend so that caners didn't get disturbed is we had to run the HVAC systems just like it was normal school day. >> That's part of the test. >> The other fun part of this is right on exposure. So what you could be doing is taking you because we're only
038allowed which doesn't make sense. We're only allowed to test in the summer. What if I mean in the winter? What if in the summer? >> Yeah. What if in the summer it's a two? That changes everybody, all the kids. It changes the exposure. If the summer months have lower than it averagees out to exposure what they're doing, this is kind of how the radon people do sometimes. They come into your basement and they pivot the radon kit in your basement without asking, do you live in your basement? Do you work in your basement? Well, if you're only doing laundry in your basement, you have two hours of exposure. So, I guess we're catching the worst of it and not understanding what the balance is. I don't know how we can understand rad. >> I don't
039know. Okay. Well, >> okay. >> I'll make copies and share those. >> Yeah. I'll just say that, you know, sometimes this makes people nervous. I definitely want families and kids to feel safe. >> Yeah. >> When they're coming to school, but we actually made that worse if you think about it because now we're putting out that air quality isn't safe. >> Well, we never did for the last 20 years. We've actually created the barn based on someone's concern that couldn't have possibly honestly had a basis in radon immediate immediate illness. So I think we honestly I think we failed at that because now we're pointing out the public radon radon radon and >> well I would be curious when we talk financial impact we're talking about that how the H3 systems are in this building.
040Are they something that need to be updated? Is it something we have updated? Is there >> He said he's looked at that and it's costly to try to get air pressure. >> Well, I understand that's not what my question was. Updating new systems. Is that something that we need? Is it something that is an emergency situation? Sometimes there's OFC money for emergency situations right on it. But I know it doesn't because I checked money here. So, but I mean just looking at that is that something is that system going to need replaced anyhow in the next two years and we're doing all this mitigation when actually long term we should be looking at maybe something else but I don't know >> you the HBAC's for each building and their age >> I mean what >>
041I mean we just did that since I've been here we did that upgrade with dynamics >> um where all those UVAs went in and part part of the problem is there's various systems in all these buildings. It's not like we have in this building where we have chillers outside and everything, you know, goes through um it there there's air handlers, there's NES units, there's the UVAs, there's all these different systems that handle as best they could. Uh now, you know, when you get to the high school, you've got a brand new, you know, school, you've got brand new units that are taken care of one way. we don't have multiple ways of taking care of heat and cooling to the so that presents a large problem if you're trying to introduce more fresh air and
042I'm not sure that fresh air is is even the answer because fresh air obviously helps move the air in the building but if you don't have a way to get out that's what the mitigation does it takes it from under the slab takes the gas out through the building in tank. It's just not let loose, which you know, like in the summertime, we're just moving air with doors open and windows open and stuff like that helps. Um, but you know, >> I don't know. >> I I don't I don't think an HVAC overhaul and would help the Rayon situation at all. Um, do we need tools that need new units and stuff? Absolutely. >> Well, how do we how do we measure that? Just to be sure. >> What? >> Well, you just said because
043if you have a higher efficiency unit outside usually, right? >> Um, not necessarily. >> Yeah. So, I guess how do we know like how do we >> Well, again, Dave um Dave had an engineer out u that was familiar with Dunlow because that was the same company engineering firm that put the the new system in over there and they were like, "It can be done. It's not going to be cheap and you're not going to be as efficient because again it's harder to heat or cool when you're allowing outside air to come in. Especially, you know, think about a couple weeks ago when we're heating air that's 50 degrees and now all of a sudden we're going to introduce more minus 20° air into the building. I mean that building would have been cold for
044three weeks. So, you know, costwise, it's easier, it's cheaper to medicate, get it get it out without allowing it in your building. >> No discussion discussion. >> Yeah, we're down to that. That's it. Yeah. Um well uh as I mentioned um Michael Dan was gonna participate medical issues couldn't be here. I'd also invited um Mr. who security background and >> he may he may come after work which should be getting here in a little while and just wanted to do introductions. >> Yeah, he's got a security background and I just that was just by way of introductions but I also wanted to ask the words like um Who would who do you think should be a good core uh to the committee? I hate to do this, but I think Mr. C should be on
045this committee. >> You don't seem like you hate it. >> You seem like a good >> I mean, seriously, I'm so glad you came, Jeff. Thank you very much. And um and then our new business and operations director, whoever that might be. >> Yeah. Yeah. Just um you can go through this. We'll prepare a report off base what you guys said. You guys will have to come to this in the middle of the night meeting will >> share that information with the board and >> and I was thinking possibly you know >> hopefully they'll >> maybe some community some city members maybe uh see if anybody from the city of Groport um or township. Yeah. Township doesn't really have construction Um I was thinking more online facilities they have roads crew but they have facilities
046um um and maybe anybody else >> like if we wanted to invite any facilities people from grow just reach out to Ports and see if they have any >> planning and zoning or any of that people might want to participate. >> Yeah if you look at the the committee structure there's different times different people would want to be there because there's different things on it that the committee is charged with that the board asks us to go I don't know look at how the school mapping is you know like the district lines or whatever that would be part of the facilities committee to see of course some of these guys would want to be there and some would that would be I think it's All depends on who what task we're tasked with at the
047moment. Um Paul asked to meet with a couple. So that's what we're here. That way it can get done and be quick. So >> I just think it would be good to have I'd say team members on deck. >> Yeah. Yeah, definitely. >> I just wanted to see if anybody had any specifics. >> And then we'll wait to see what happens with the business director. >> The only I would add is if you know depending again to your point about what we're actually discussing is the main supervisor John or if it's HBAC it would be our HBAC guy Rick Clark >> John used to come to the committee >> what was the second one >> Rick Clark >> he's a when Dynamics finished that job u with the new HBAC and all that kind of
048stuff. They tried to give us a contract and it was >> Yeah, >> it was up there and Larry Richie was the >> business man at the time. >> I'm sorry. This is this is >> I I would say that once we you know talk or whatever and say hey needs to look at these things then you guys will decide because you know who's best to be there right don't want to waste anybody's time of it is to try to make quicker and more efficient >> like you depending on >> the whole who do we hire an electrician more or less >> no not really do a little bit of everything on that but when we get into the real big whether it's you know voltage or problems or whatever Rick actually takes the lead
049on as well. Springs very specifically you want to bring to the board. >> Yeah, we had a place for recommendations. So, do you have anything that you want us to bring forward to the board? I I would say the one thing one recommendation is that we take a look with the administration of the policy EBCR that we are doing um we are doing a board retreat on policy. So you can at least bring that one up and you guys have a look and see if you want to make it more uh forgiving or more in line with what you guys do. >> I just think uh by the time not tomorrow, but the next board meeting. We'll have a better outline of where we are with these schools. Uh, and some ideas for proposals for
050the board to decide what we're doing next. Uh, with both radon and we'll get the results of the board to expect inspection might not even be. So, um, under recommendations, what copy? What should we prepare for um direction? Do we want to seek direction from the board on anything? >> Well, I don't think we have any direction right now that I think they're um still testing. They're waiting for test results. >> I'm not talking about this. I'm talking about we have another facilities meeting, right? What do we want? >> Are we have dates for these? >> No, we haven't set up any dates. We could do that. set of times and dates or >> I would like the policy that John just mentioned maybe set consistent dates on if this if this committee meets monthly,
051>> but it could be as needed. >> I think right now it's probably going to be needed pretty quickly since we're looking at different facilities type stuff. Um, but if you guys were meeting and it was your ideal time, would it be like in the afternoon like a lunch meeting or >> uh like this? What would your >> if you meet at 4 pm? It's going to accommodate the people that are actually working here, but it doesn't accommodate people that don't work here. >> Well, we're looking at this >> like Eric Eric and Mike do not work here, >> right? So like Eric getting off work and being here for a committee meeting >> four o'clock is that's specifically where we kind of took that time so that they can come out >> or if
052we get a city admin or a city employee. So, I'm not sure and there's a lot of people key people that aren't here to maybe make it >> Why don't we just make it the same time next month and then when we have more bodies in the room, we'll make more conducive. Does that make sense? So whatever this is, this is the third Monday, fourth Monday, whatever that is another one. And then once we have more people in, we can see they have a different time. >> The fourth Monday. >> Well, we do the fourth Monday. >> Well, the fourth Monday. >> March 23rd. >> 23rd. If there's anything agenda yet, if you had things you think we should be looking at, you saw the policy, I mean the the language of the committee structure,
053what the committee was supposed to be doing and that was done back in I think 21. >> So look at that. >> It's a special meeting. So if something urgent comes up or we Good. We're under an hour. >> You guys have anything that you want us to put on you would like us to talk about >> Oh. going forward. >> Yeah. Because we're gonna What I'll do is I'll summarize what we talked about and we put together a little report. Is that good? >> Very good. And then just say this is what we did. Have it attached to the meeting agenda maybe and all the board members can see it and then hopefully have too many questions during the meeting. >> Yeah. And if we got an open agenda, you get to ask for
054a request for agenda items. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Do you all have >> once the agenda is out because it's a special meeting? >> Yeah, that's it. >> You can't change it. So, you want to like have committee discussion allows you to, you know, discuss certain things that might be a little bit um more >> a little open. Keep it a little open. So you cannot change special meeting. Anything else? >> That's it. >> So yeah, I hope I didn't like >> Yeah, I'll talk to you about that later. I know. I know. I like I just thought it was the best way to do it. Let's put it together. >> Basically gonna talk to you and the vice pre the vice president and kind of tell you what's happening filling in for Jamie
055and then if you wanted to have this committee or something like that, I was I was good with it. But it was like all short notice. >> Oh, you want to cut that off? I don't know. Does it turn off over there? >> I don't know. >> Where I know how to kill this part of it.