001Test test test. [clears throat] Allegiance. right on to the five principles of cruiser PLC. These are the five principles of the cruiser PLC that have gotten us to where we are academically over the last two years. they are. We focus on learning. We collaborate. We take responsibility. We ask what are the results. We decide what to do next. >> Thank you so much. On to roll call, please. >> Mr. Kel >> here. >> Mrs. Dber >> here. >> Mr. Bar >> here. >> Mrs. Gray >> here. >> And Mrs. Walsh. She is asking. >> Right. On to our review of police statement of board norms, please. We believe all cruisers are valuable. We will unconditionally serve, support, and inspire. Therefore, every cruiser will maximize their unique purpose, potential, and power to produce the results they
002want. Orders, as leaders of the district, we will always strive to one, support the mission and vision of the district. Two, be prepared, informed, and ready for meetings. Respect one another as elected representatives of the community. Be open-minded and recognize one another's strengths, the value of diverse perspectives, and mutual commitment to the mission and vision of the district. Four, allow members to complete their thoughts and statements before others comment. Allow members to be heard and listen to all perspectives with an open mind. Five, stay focused on the task at hand and respectfully redirect each other when needed. Six, maintain confidentiality and communicate per board policies. Ensure trust and transparency in all dealings. And seven, after voters cast, leave meetings united as one voice no matter the outcome. >> Right. Thank you so much. On to
003item B, agenda approval. >> Mrs. Gray is first, Mr. Kersner second. You said three, four, and five. Superintendent. >> That's G3, four. Moving it to >> My apologies. to push the button. Yeah. I'm asking that we move the contracts item uh superintendent item F, three, four, and five to following executive session J. So it would actually follow item K, which is return from executive session. >> Okay. Let me make a note of that. >> And you said after the first and second session, correct? >> Second. after the second. >> Yeah. For the second executive session has the language that would be appropriate for that. >> So move those after the second executive session. >> Okay. So the K1 K Yes. >> Three. Yeah. Okay. Got it. >> And then I would like to on item
004E. Hang on. item F um with under uh the board items switch those two around. So Nationwide Children's Hospital would be item number one and then the second item would be first read of OSBA policies and procedures. >> So you're just moving those switches. All right. Do you mind giving me those numbers one more time? >> Yep. It's uh board item number one is now going to be board item number two and board item two will now be board item one. So nationwide essentially will go first and then we'll go into was in the wrong spot. Thank you. >> Y I have one more. Um in light of um um after the board agenda was published, we've had a radon issue. I'd like to add that as a discussion either as a board item or
005a superintendent agenda. >> Let me put it as board item number three. That's fine with me if the board is fine with that. >> So what number will that become please? >> Number three >> being board item number three. >> Okay to roll call please. Are we clear? So if we make that three that we know what we're doing with the original 3, four, and five >> on the superintendent agenda. >> We're moving those down below the second executive session. Correct. >> Correct. >> Yeah. So I don't know if we need to re number those to four, five, and six. >> I think the system will do it for us. I'm just trying to >> I just want to be clear. Thank you. >> Roll call. Roll call. Mrs. Gray. >> Hi, >> Mr. Ber.
006Hi. Ber >> I >> and Mr. >> Hi. >> All right. Motion passes. On to public participation. >> All meetings of the board and board appointed committees are open to the public. For the board of education to fulfill its obligation to complete the approved agenda effectively and efficiently, a maximum of 30 minutes of public participation may be permitted at each regular board of education meeting. Those submitting a written request to address the board before the start of the meeting will be granted three minutes to present their remarks. Persons desiring more time should submit their request in writing to the board of education office or email public.com at gocru cruisers.org seven days prior to the scheduled meeting. When addressing the board, the speaker shall give their name, address, and any group affiliations they may represent. Each
007person wishing to address the board will be given a total of three minutes to present and conclude their presentation. No person will be permitted to speak twice on the same topic. Public particip participation is not a dialogue or discussion between the presenter and the board. It is an opportunity for you to present any ideas or concerns to the board in a public forum. The board will not debate the merits of your position. We will respectfully listen to your presentation. We may ask clarifying questions. The board may refer you or your concern to the superintendent for followup if necessary. Please remember that state law prohibits discussing specific employees or their job performance at a public meeting. State law does allow for discussions by board members regarding employees and executive sessions of the board. And we have
008one public participation. Um Miss James Deckard, if you don't mind coming up to the pod. First of all, I'd like to say thank you to all the veterans to because of them I get to say what I think. As a community member, I am appalled after reading Mr. Ker and Mrs. Walsher's social media posts. I am not sure what the purpose of those per posts were. It seems to me that the concerns aired are concerns that can only be fixed by the board of education and not by the public. So why post it? It was mentioned that there were 36 policies tonight. If I am remembering correctly, some of these are ones that were moved to tonight because Mrs. Walsh claimed she didn't have enough time to work on these. I look at board docs
009and I have time and it's not my elected position. So, it would seem that if it's your job, you should do your job. In my opinion, the only outcome wanted in these posts is to stir up the community and or to throw shade at Mr. Bower and make them be against the district while the job of a board member should be to support the district to make it better. Please stop trying to make the district board look bad. As I have stated before, your own belief statement reads, "We will respect one another as elected representatives of the community. Be open-minded to another's strengths and value of the values of diverse perspectives and mutual commitment to the district. Please start showing the respect and commitment to the district. Thank you for your time." >> Right. On
010to item E, recognitions and presentations. >> Thank you, Mr. President. We have uh several recognitions tonight. The first of which is um recognition of Veterans Day. Um so the the recognition is whereas Veterans Day is observed on November 11th each year to honor the men and women who served and sacrificed the United States Armed Forces. And whereas we acknowledge the unwavering courage, dedication, and sacrifice of our veterans who have selflessly protected our freedoms, values, and way of life. And whereas Brookport Madison schools recognizes that the sacrifices made by veterans and their families allow us to live in a country that upholds the ideals of liberty, justice, and democracy. And whereas the commitment, resilience, and bravery of our veterans set a profound example for our students, reminding us all of the values of loyalty and honor.
011Whereas many veterans have continued to serve our community by contributing in the growth, education, and support of our students and families within Gilport Madison schools. Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Growport Madison Schools Board of Education hereby expresses our heartfelt gratitude to all veterans for their selfless dedication and commitment to our nation. And be it further resolved that the Groport Madison schools encourages student, staff, and community members to observe Veterans Day with respect and appreciation for those who have served and to continue fostering a culture of honor and remembrance. And be it finally resolved that this resolution be presented in honor of all veterans and that we commit to supporting veteran causes within our district and community, demonstrating our enduring respect for their service and sacrifice. >> So moved. >> Second. I have Mrs.
012Gray as first, Mr. Roll, please. Mrs. Gray, >> hi. >> Mr. B. >> Hi, Mrs. Dber. >> Hi, >> Mr. H. Passes. >> Yeah, >> I wanted to shout out Groport Elementary. Um, my daughter brought this home to me today and I thought it was the coolest thing um that they were able to do a letter and so I thought I'd bring it to the board meeting today just to talk about the great work that our students and our teachers and administrators of the buildings are doing to recognize Veterans Day. I hadn't gotten this before, so just shout out to all the schools, but my daughter brought this on first, so wanted to share. >> Um, I think it would also be appropriate uh we can recognize any veterans in our audience tonight, but also
013we have three veterans who serve on our board of education. Uh, we have Mrs. Dberger, Mr. Kersner and Mrs. Walsh who could not be here tonight is also a veteran. So if we could the veterans in the crowd if you are willing you want to stand we recognize if we have any but uh thank you to our board member VETERANS [applause] sorry lots of pages Okay. Our next recognition is to the board uh the board president recommends the Gort Madison Board of Education recognize November as Native American Heritage Month. Whereas November has been designated as National Native American Heritage Month to recognize histories, cultures, and contributions of Native American people in the United States. And whereas Native American Heritage Month, or as is commonly referred to as American Indian and Alaskan Native Heritage Month, is
014a time to celebrate rich and diverse cultures and traditions and histories to acknowledge the important contributions of Native Americans. And whereas Native Americans have made distinct and important contributions to the United States and the rest of the world in many fields, including the fields of agriculture, medicine, music, language, and art. And now therefore be it resolved the G for Madison schools board of education hereby recognizes November as Native American Heritage Month. So moved. >> Second. >> I have Mr. Kushner as first and Mrs. Dberger as second. On to roll call please. >> Mrs. Gray. >> I do. >> Hi. >> Mr. Hi. Motion passes. All right. Our final recognition for this evening um Ohio public education appreciation week proclamation. Whereas public education is established in the Ohio Constitution which provides that the state will secure
015a thorough and efficient system of common schools throughout the state. Thus demonstrating the commitment of Ohio's citizens to make provisions for students to obtain a public education. And whereas public schools equip young Ohioans with both practical skills and the broader intellectual abilities, giving them hope for and access to a productive future. And whereas public schools are community lynch pins bringing together adults and children, educators and volunteers, business leaders and elected officials in a common enterprise. And whereas the Ohio Public Education Appreciation Week celebrates public education, honoring individuals who make a difference in ensuring every child receives a quality education and recognizing the importance of public education has in our community. Now, therefore, be it resolved, we serving as Port Madison Local Schools Board of Education do hereby proclaim November 16th through the 22nd, 2025 as
016the observance of Ohio Public Education Appreciation Week. >> So, move second. >> Mrs. Gray is first, Mrs. Calaba as second roll, please. >> Mr. Kushner. Hi, Mrs. Dutterburgger. >> Hi, >> Mr. Bar. >> Hi, M. Right. >> I motion passes. >> All right. Our next item is your high report card uh with Groport Madison similar districts with Mr. Morrison. Tonight we want to make sure that the presentation can be seen at Just taking Thank you, Mr. Last month, the board of education allowed me to do a live walk through of the state report card. The the state report card helps us see how we rate among how we rank among all the school districts in the state of Ohio. 67 school districts. I also took time that night to go over how we compare to
017our nearest neighbor. I believe it was eight of our nearest neighbors. Tonight, like last year at this time, we're going to look at how we compare among similar districts. The state of Ohio's been doing this for many, many years, and it's the their best attempt to do a apples to apples comparison of our district with 20 other districts that the state has determined are very similar to ours. These are the seven demographics that the state uses in this criteria. Student enrollment, percent population, and urbanized territory. We're going to look at these very closely in a moment. Number three, population density, the median adjusted gross income, percent economically disadvantaged enrollment, percent of adults with at least a bachelor's degree, and the percent of minority or racial ethnic ethnic enrollment. I want to remind you that these
018groups are not reciprocal, meaning that our district can be in in another district's group that may be in ours, but it's not always the same group. Um, this year, like many other years, Hamilton local is not in our grouping, but Reynoldsburg is. I mean, both of those are in our in our grouping, but Reynoldsburg, we are in theirs. We are not in Hamilton Locals. We take a look at these two because these are the only two in our similar district grouping ranking um that are in Franklin County. So, Hamilton local and Reynburg City are currently in our group and they have been in six of the last seven years. This is very similar to the graphic I put up last year at this time. This shows our 21 year over 20 year progression um against
019Roport and against Reynoldsburg and Hamilton. We are the red line and you can see that the upward trend. We're going to take a closer look at that fantastic squiggly line in just a little bit. The other school districts on the other hand have declined while we have improved. It's going to be seen in our comparison in just a moment. There's the line by itself. So, what I always like to do is I like to teach everybody or show everybody how to access this information on their own because that's the best way that you can sit down and determine what the data is telling you. You can interpret yourself. So in this case, what we're going to do, we're going to search for Ohio similar districts. Put that to the search engine, Ohio similar districts. Select
020similar district methodology and it takes you right to the page we need to be. And on there's four links on that page. We want to look at similar district lookup. As we get to the dashboard, I'm going to make this larger for everyone. that's a little bit easier to see. I'm going to show you how to navigate through this. At the top of the page, you have to put Growport in there. Select Growport. And then you're going to see in this list, we're at the top next to Groport Madison is a number zero. The rest are numbered one through 20. So, this is the group that the state has determined that is very much like ours demographically, our district. Across here, you can reorder the groups. So, I told you that We're looking at specifically
021in Franklin County, Reynoldsburg and Hamilton local because they are the only ones in the county with us in this similar grouping. It also shows you the district typology. You click on that link, you can see that reorgan reorganiz to Z and you can see where we are enrollment against all these others. And I want to keep pushing over here. I want to keep looking at Groport Madison. That's where our enrollment ranks among these 20 other school districts. Also, the percentage living in urban areas. You can see a lot of the other groups, other districts in this grouping are at 100% living in urban areas. We're very close. We're categorized as 97.6. And then the population that I talked about in that previous slide, the adjusted me, the population, let's click there. And you can see
022the population density per square mile. Now we have a very high density at 1250 per square mile but you see the others in the group are many of them are are much larger than we are. The adjusted median income of adults 25 and older $40,614. Of course, that means that there is an equal number of people earning above 40,000 us and below 40,614. The economically disadvantaged see there are some who are 100%. We are in the shaded line at 79.3 of our students qualify as economically disadvantaged. The percent of adults with college degree is 22.4. The highest in our grouping is 39%. Lastly, the racial minority, I'll make sure you can see which line it is, is 74%. So, what you can't really see on this page is at the bottom there are some tabs.
023Don't skip this when you go look at this on your own. Each one of these tabs shows you a different dashboard. This is our overall district component comparison. This was straight from our report card. We organized it so that we can see Groport Madison is at 3.5 stars. There are only three in our grouping who are ahead of us at four stars. I've made certain that we all know that we are going to see four stars very soon. Achievement is also a dashboard that you can look at here. The rest of the components and I've talked a lot about performance index. Some of these screens have this great graphic where you can see where we are in the This is Gport Madison in red. And then when you hover over the rest of them, you
024can see what districts are below and what districts have a higher performance index. Our higher performance index, remember, increased dramatically this year, making us eligible for some state awards. Chronic absenteeism is also something we can click on and see. We are right in the middle of our similar district to chronic absenteeism grouping progress. You can do the very same we've done before. You can reorganize each one of these. Click it a couple times so that you can make sure that you can see what the order is. Early literacy that tab again is another one of those great graphics where we can see where we rank among our similar districts. Improving at risk through three readers and then gap closing closing as related to English language arts. the PI. And then for math, the math gap
025closing is very encouraging because that continues to increase for English learners. The gap closing for ELA progress. And then this is going to be I can see the next one maybe. Now the next one is shows our mathematics progress comparison. I'm not sure. Let's try. There we are second in our similar districts grouping. So math is improving dramatically. Whereas graduation rate is also something that you can see here. We are harder to read. We are here. Yes, we're somewhat in the middle in that column. You hover over it, you can see what district you're looking at currently. And then one more I'd like to show if I can. It's our college military workforce component. I'm not able to get rid of the top part. Okay. Now you remember last month I I did make a
026big deal about this 74.9. We are at three stars and not four because of 0.1 because of one tenth of a point. And that means out of the 11 components for the college career military and workforce readiness component, if we had just one more person participating in one of 11 different areas, we would have been at four stars. So that's how you navigate the similar industry comparison. It's very helpful. It's very informative. I'm going to jump back to just a couple more slides. I hope this looks familiar to the board. Two years ago, I talked everyone through comparisons of our ability to all of our neighbors and I made a big deal about how we need to move from the left side of the screen to the right side of the screen especially increasing the
027proficiency of our students. To read this, we're going to be looking at this line right here. Let's focus on this very dark 2024 and the reddish 2025. And what you see here is that this is over the last five years the best performance we've had in relative to lowering the number of students who are in the lowest category, the limited category. So, we have ranked as high as 38% of our students testing at a limited band. Just track these two colors, the red and the black. And you see we have shifted students from limited to basic and more importantly, we've shifted from limited and basic to proficiency. And over the last two years, we've had our highest performances in the accomplished and the advanced levels. So now we're back to the squiggly red line. This
028shows our trend. It's definitely upward. This is our absolute since we we had 3.5 stars this year. It's the same as last year. That was an improvement. Dramatic improvement over the previous year. Our 3.5 this score this year is even higher. Performance index is higher. Our achievement is higher as well. So I want to point out that this is the best performance that we've had in the history of the state report card. I've said that before. say that again and this credit goes directly to the teachers and the people who help them do their jobs and they're getting the job done and I want to make it absolutely clear we're all excited about moving to the next level. Um I think I can speak safely for Carol on her behalf and my behalf too. We
029are very excited about what the future show future beholds for Groport local and growport Madison and uh we sincerely want to be here to make sure that it happens. Thank you very much. >> Oh, this is the performance what we did. I'm going to go back and re what it looks like against the other districts. >> So yeah, what we did was we we scaled the performance over the years of the 21 years and the 22 years and the um against all the seven versions of the state report and this is their performance. So right now we are that was scaled for performance I think was at 21 points. Basically what I had to do is I had to assign points to every version of the report card and then I had to mark over
030each one of these and you can see as we fly through here each one of them you can see where these are and so that's where these different points come from and then that's the reason for the squiggly line. So >> it did then it did then it did then that was the so that was 2007208 report card and how the three districts ranked at that point. So, Reynoldsburg had 20 equivalent of 28 points and 14, Hampton 23. And so, as we go through here, we can see we track and we can see what the equivalency was. And then that's how we above their performance. Again, what we talked about before is that we are now at a 3.5. Here's a three. Here's a two. >> Yeah. And can we get when you um if
031this is shared, can we get the data fields like the data labels like how you have to hover over because on our PDF we don't have any of that. >> And then we're missing one of those slides too. The one >> um where you had all of the years um you go that one. We don't have that one. >> Yeah, that would be great. Thank you so much. It was great. It was a great um presentation. I appreciate you deep diving into it and showing us how we can look and then verifying things and kind of comparing and that the public also was able to do that as well. >> You're very welcome. >> Thank you so much. >> I have a question that's uh maybe you can come back to later. I don't want
032to put you on the spot, but in working with quite a few of our high school students and knowing them, I see a trend where um graduates and and students that I would think would be pretty solid don't seem to know their multiplication tables. Um, and I don't expect you to have an exact answer for that, but I'd kind of like your input and what's changed and and maybe that's something you can come back to. >> There's no answer tonight for that. It's something that Carol and I need to talk about and I will of course yield to Carol. She's the one who's won some national math teaching awards, some states and local ones, too. So, let's talk about that. And it's always important. Your observations are are probably spot on. We need to make
033sure that every student can do math and every student who graduates can read and write. >> Maybe that's something you can bring to us at a later date. >> Absolutely. >> Thank you. >> All right. On to item F items. And up first is the Nationwide Children's Hospital. >> Yes. Thank you [clears throat] and thank you for um moving this earlier. We have three guests from Nationwide tonight come in. Um, we talked pretty extensively about this last month and there were some questions and some marching orders for us. Um, [clears throat] so um, the Nationwide folks came tonight so they can field questions and answer some of those things. Uh, we have updated uh, documents uh, addressing some of the concerns we had before about Make sure you use the right term. Um, conveyance and
034reconveyance. And there were a few other questions about the contract that the the revised contract has been through. Um, they're legal and our legal and and so they telling us it's good to go. Nationwide folks, do you guys want to come up? Uh, we have Mary Kay Irwin, Michelle Welsh, and Lisa Thomas. and and Kelly, I don't know if you want to come up. You're welcome to join too if you have anything you want to say about the Nationwide Children's. >> Good evening. Happy to be here. We're looking forward to uh partnering with the district. Take good care of your students and children from the broader community. Um I was told that maybe you guys had specific questions because you've already been given the overview. Is that correct? Okay. Do we want to start with
035your questions? >> Yeah. Yeah. I think one of them that we had it looks like you've you've cured or partially cured here and that was our ability uh to just take taxpayer provided equipment and just give it to you and then not give it back. I see that the language now states that um if the if the uh agreement is terminated prior to three years then the don shall convey uh convey to donor on an asis basis all the equipment in it possession and the current condition. So it appears that we get it back if we don't make it the full three years. If we make it in the full three years you keep it. Am I am I reading that wrong? >> Yeah. So what this basically comes down to is that um when
036you have medical equipment, you have to service that medical equipment, right? And so we have experts at Nation Children's Hospital that take care of our equipment should it break, should we start to get false readings. And um the the team at Nation Children's who works on equipment won't work on equipment we don't own. It's just that simple. So um I think what this and I want to make sure I'm really clear and answer questions so you don't feel like we're trying to the district is absolutely positive and we're not. We want to be here to take care of the kids and and hope that this partnership lasts in perpetuity for years and years. And so, um, our desire is really just to ensure that the people at Nation Children's that are responsible for maintaining our
037equipment for accuracy, um, and to make sure we can provide the full scope of care we intend to provide have the ability to take care of the equipment. So, this was our attempt to get that done by us owning the if you will, but also in good faith to say should something transpire, you decide you don't want to partner with Nationwide Children's anymore or we decide we need to leave for one reason or another that uh you guys will have that equipment or sever the agreement before. >> And and if you could also um I know when we met and talked at the last meeting, there's liability issues depending on if if the equipment would fail and something would happen. And then also can you touch on the the vision equipment and how that would
038work in this situation? >> Y so the other thing is um we rely on our equipment for accurate reads to guide our treatment and so the people that take care of our equipment of course have been trained to take care of it such that um so should something go wrong and there be a liability with a misread that that is a liability of rather than liability of Fort Madison. So um when we uh then own the equipment that liability shifts our direction. So um I think that's important. Um the other thing I'll just explain on the uh the vision and dental equipment. So um in order for a dentist or an optometrist to be productive, they need to have multiple think of it as almost like lanes to take care of patients. So um if
039we only have one set of something, the cannot be efficient and see the number of children who need test. Um, had we done this originally with you instead of the previous healthcare partner that you had, we would have never set up a situation with one vision because you can't be you can't see the number of kids for the resources that it takes to run a vision clinic. So, when you run vision clinic, you're looking at an optometrist, opt, a vision assistant. It takes multiple people to run this. So we need to be seeing a number of kids and the same is true with dentistry. Generally speaking, a dentist wants to have a minimum of four chairs so that they can be productive and you have the assistance kind of moving the kids around the dentist
040bumping between chairs, but that your previous healthcare partner is also the previous healthcare partner of the of Columbus uh global with Columbus City and they split the equipment up. And so when both districts decided to move a different direction and approached us to be the partner um in order for us to be productive, we said could we swap the equipment because we can't send a dentist here if we only have two chairs, right? And so really we wish we had four, but we're basically saying if we could uh swap the equipment, we could be productive at international um with the vision equipment and productive at port with the dental equipment. And so Columbus City Schools has agreed to swap and give you guys the dental equipment if we give them the vision equipment so we
041can be productive. Um it's not that we don't want to take care of the vision needs of your kids. It's just that we can't do so with one lane. Um that said, um we are uh have a plan should we get to a point that we can work it out with you guys that we would like to see your students at the closest Nationwide Children's Vision Clinic that we have and working on a transportation strategy to get that done. Um the other thing I'll say is that my hope would be that this center would be super busy and that we see um all the kids in your district and the children from the community from a primary care perspective and a dental perspective and if we are productive and taking good care of these kids
042um we are open to expanding and bringing vision here and bringing them the necessary equipment to keep our busy. So that was the strategy so that we could be productive in both spaces. Questions? >> Yeah. So supposing we didn't have all this equipment and we were entering into this agreement, you would be bringing all of it. Is that a true statement in general? >> Well, I will so it's it's pretty expensive. You know, when you're looking at uh three dental chairs plus all the primary care equipment, but um so what we have been doing is we've been expanding our our school health umbrella is just like everybody else been writing grants to try and offset capital expenses associated with that. Um and then we then uh assume the other expenses. So that would be salary
043and benefits of the people all the consumables that have to be um uh that we do from a supply standpoint and then also um to upgrade the space. We would are assuming that responsibility as well as additional signage that is needed and anything that would be needed you know replace it in the future. We would assume that. Um, if you're asking me, would we if if you did not have equipment, would we be coming? Is that what you're asking? And bringing all the equipment. >> I guess I'm coming back to my original point. There's two there's two points. One is I'm sure that there is equipment that would require regular maintenance, calibration, etc. I'm not sure that there is an equipment that we might call hard goods that might very well last 10 or 20
044years. And with this agreement, it appears that if at the end of this term you decided that um this wasn't viable, there wasn't enough, etc., etc. For whatever reason, you decided not to renew, we'd be left with a vacant space. And um The original intent and still is from my vantage point is to make sure that what we bought with grants, taxpayer money, etc. uh is protected as best it can be. And I understand you have maintenance requirements, but it almost looks to me like we could park it and store it and be better better off than than in some instances here. It's almost like I I want to make sure I say it is almost like but I want to make sure we're not being penalized because we own it and we don't end
045up with a vacant space and then not know how to do or or fund it to keep it going. So those are my concerns. >> Um I will share with you that we're not um if you think of you know the larger Nation Children's Hospital we're certainly not out like looking for equipment like when we go into a venture we are generally budgeting an expansion. we will budget like equipment for an approved project. So, we're not looking to take this equipment. We're looking to come and and be your partner. I'm just trying to get it to a place that, you know, we can uh reliably work on it and pull resources here to support that. >> Yeah, you understand. My concern is that based on thisou basically um if I'm unless I'm understanding that which
046is quite possible at the end if whatever point this terminates um beyond the three years it appears we no longer have any equipment is that am I misunderstanding that >> I think technically that is what it says that's what we came up with just so we could get to the point of moving this along if that's not comfortable for you we're happy to entertain something else I will share with you that in general in schoolbased medicine so if we open this clinic this will be our at the school based health center. Um and then we are also um uh the state's technical assistance expert and have opened over 70 clinics in different parts of the state for different healthcare providers. Um so we do this work a lot. Schoolbased medicine is not a money making
047uh adventure, right? So this is part of our nonprofit work. So schoolbased health centers generally operate at a loss. Um we are here to take care of children who are disconnected and don't have a phys. We want to step in and uh and fill gaps. Um and uh so our charge, my charge is to do the best job that I can to uh to minimize the loss that the hospital will take by doing this work. So it is not uncommon that you know as you see our governor and different state departments who want health care to expand in this way that they are trying to offset the initial startup costs because the expense is and the burden falls to the healthare provider. Um probably not surprising to you based on even the experience you guys
048have had so far is these are not generally if you build that they will come clinics right because you're putting them in places where individuals are disconnected. So, we have to spend a lot of time in collaboration with you doing outreach and engagement so that your community knows who we are, why we're here, and what we have to offer. In doing that work, that means there's going to be a lot of time we don't see patients, which means there's going to be a lot of time we can't build, which means we are going to lose a lot of money up front. And so, what we're trying to do is minimize the loss here. Um, and that's what we try to do in all of our spaces and all of my colleagues, frankly, who do this
049work. So, by no means are we trying to take advantage, are we trying to profit? We are just trying to figure out how we can get this clinic open um and minimize loss because we know when we get started, the flow of patients is probably going to trickle in um and kind of focus on what we need to do to to get busy. Um and then the other thing I will mention too is we do bill insurance. So, we bill Medicaid, we build prep insurance, but we will never refuse care for inability to pay. And so, again, lots of reasons This is not a money making adventure for us. So, we're just getting trying to get it to a point uh that we can uh get your space used, start taking care of your kids,
050but if that's uncomfortable for you, I'm happy to to entertain another arrangement. >> I just like to make the comment that, you know, this is a partnership. And in a partnership, >> there's give and take on both sides. And so this little bit of equipment that there is there um not that we'd be able to use it for anything if any nobody was there, but that's a commitment that we need to make that we're willing to give that. So that there's a that's a true partnership when we're working together. And I think that's what we need to stop and think about that that they're willing to take the risk and the financial risk of doing this where we know they're going to lose money right from the start because it is going to be hard
051to get students in here and just get the word out. So in my mind it's an investment that it's a no-brainer. >> Yeah. I I say also I mean our kids need this. This is something that we should be doing. U you know having Nationwide Children's Hospital coming in one of the best providers in the nation for pediatric care um I mean this should be a no-brainer. I mean so thank you for even coming here and and um and and speaking to us about this tonight. >> Same and just your reputation speaks for itself, right? So um and then the fact that you're willing to partner and probably working with our Mason comps person, Mr. Tai, in the office to get out there and connect and knowing that you're going to take those dollars and
052to hear that you have a transportation strategy and working with our administration to figure out how when we can't get them there, how we can get those students and families in for care. Thank you. And I I concur with you, Miss Gray, as far as it being a partnership, and this is one part of our our partnership with you all. So, thank you so much for your time. >> Yeah, I I agree with everything you said. My my wonder and my concern is with this depth of equipment that you don't want it just to disappear because it's in anou, right? There may be hard goods that you don't care to take back and hard goods that have an extended life. I think there's just I don't I don't want to slow anything up here or
053have to rewrite anything. I just think there's probably an opportunity as we go through this to do some or at least have some language in there where there's like an evaluation at the end so stuff doesn't just disappear for the sake of language, right? So things don't come out of here that you really don't have a use for, etc. Just to be as as um good stewards of the equipment as we can be. That's all. >> And I'll just share with you too, we've been doing school health now for 10 years. Um, and so we've partnered with Columbus City Schools and Reynoldsburg and Hip Academy and everybody's different and different challenges and we're sticking around. Our intention is not to leave. Um, and as you know that your your previous healthcare provider also had um
054the partnership with Columbus City and um the Columbus Global which we into that space. We had the same agreement and um they had no issue. I understand you guys are different. I only mentioned that just to say that that district trusts us enough, right? And um they just signed it over and they're willing to give you the vision for the swap. Um and I know um you guys have a right to your decision, but just in terms of credibility and our dedication and commitment to stick around, maybe that would be helpful to give you some comfort. >> Thank you. Okay, I would like to make a motion to um accept the contract. >> I second. >> So we've got Mrs. Gras first, Mr. Kersner second. >> Any discussion? >> Hearing none. On to roll call,
055please. >> Mrs. Gray, >> I. >> Mr. Bart, >> I. >> Mrs. Dber, >> hi. >> And Mr. >> Hi. Motion passes. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. Appreciate your time. >> I just hope we're good. We're good on schedule now. We can move, right? Okay, great. Thank you guys so much. >> I'd like to take a moment to say that these three ladies that showed up tonight have worked tirelessly for this partnership. They are energetic, professional, and just lovely caring women. And I appreciate >> Thank you for making a second trip. >> Yes. Thank you. Thank you. All right. On to board item two, the first read of OSBA policies and policy review. So this is the first read. It's just a discussion item. Um, we sent uh the uh summary checklist and
056the policies um I think it was October 24th to have a chance to review to ask questions, provide input uh rather than go line by line. I thought maybe we would just open up if there are thoughts, questions we can >> I was going to say I have my list so I'll I'll start with mine and then we can just move on down. >> Um the first I had questions on was the IGD policy. Um, this has to do with curricular and extracurricular activities. It looks like to me I don't remember having a policy u like this on our old NEOLA policy but I just wanted to um make note that on item five of this that it talks about that the superintendent reports annually to the board the general purposes plans and financial status
057of the co-curricular and extracurricular programs for the district. So if this policy is um passed at the next board meeting if that could be provided. >> Um for point of clarification please on my closed caption it appeared you said IGD as in India India Gulf Delta. >> Yes. >> Is that maybe I misnoted I thought that was regarding ice hockey. Is that wrong? >> It it does. value. >> That's part of it. >> Total cor extra credit. >> So if if you um if everybody sees this sheet that has the summary on there, >> so there's um the first ones require some type of customization for adoption. And in IGD and IGJ, um it's talked about students permitted to participate in ice hockey and It's it's it's basically if it's not available within 20 miles,
058but if the the part that's modified for us, there's permissive language and uh in the permissive language, it's talking about students attending nonpublic community STEM or steam schools. uh who are not entitled to play attend the school district may be authorized by the superintendent to participate that that permissive language I was not recommending for this we do the part that we're required to do but not the permissive language that allows additional >> yeah my questions don't necessarily tie to what like the um the different languages it's just things that I've noticed in the policy that was different than the policies that we So that's why I >> I'm sorry I missed. >> No, that's all right. I'm sorry. Um and then my next one was the ID um IGJ. >> Can Can we Can we
059not move forward yet if you don't mind? I have that one on here as well so you can kill two birds. So >> I want to make sure I understood you, Mr. G. Are you saying there's part of this language you are not recommending? >> That That's correct. There's there's permissive permissive language that we're not required to accept. >> Okay. >> And I'm not recommending that we accept the permissive language. >> Thank you. And what why one more time just so I make sure I understand why the reference to ice hockey in our in our situation. >> I the it's just an example. So no the ice hockey is a specific reference in revised code 3313536. Okay. That permits students enrolled in another school district to participate specifically in ice hockey. And then there's a
06020 mile >> rule and and things in there. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. And it's on the sheet too on the on the summary. It breaks down. It's due to the amendment. >> Yeah, that's right. All of them. Correct. >> Thank you. the IG J. Um, this has to do with the on uh section one I think was talked about the insurance um and I was wondering if we have any students on that insurance and um who administers it. Is it the state that administers the insurance? >> We have we have nobody to my knowledge that's on insurance. >> Okay. This has to do with the graduation requirements and it talks about the financial um literacy I believe and does the PNC program does that count towards the financial? No, that's that's after school and
061that's really targeted for families. >> Okay. I just thought maybe we could kill two birds. I this one has to do with the budget and you have the recommendation um that it it's not going to be required and I was on when I first joined the Um the pledge of living allegiance was not being said in the classroom. And we had several student body um student councils come to the board and present how they wanted us to have it mandatory. And so I would hate to remove that from our because we did have our students come to us. Liby, which which item was that? >> Um, it has it's the INDA and it has school ceremonies, observations, and patriotic exercises. And we've selected that it's it's up to the teachers to decide and I would
062much rather have it mandatory because our students have requested it. So, if everybody know we're not voting on that tonight, but if everybody um the next one I had questions on the G GBQ >> before um the um that one is also a choice, >> right? >> And there's the there's choose one and one is to requ all students to do it and the other one is what our current language is. So that's that was the reason I recommended because that's what our current language is but that's why we go through this and if if there's interest in having it be required >> but certainly >> I didn't realize that it got changed. >> Well given that this is the first read would now not be the best time to go ahead and see if
063we can find agreement on that so that we bring it forward as a second We're ready to go. >> Yeah. >> I totally agree with what you're saying. >> Do you mind me repeating just summarizing real quick? >> Um on the policy INDA um there's the option to choose whether it's mandatory to recite the pledge of allegiance or leave it up to um classroom teacher. and the um students at body student body had come to the board meeting several years ago requesting that make it mandatory and so to go back what the students requested. >> I think it adds consistency and I think if the students are asking for it I think it would be I think it would be a shame not to give them that opportunity. >> Yeah, I'm good with that. >>
064If there's a reason student didn't want to Would they would there be consequences if there's a student who did not want to certainly >> yeah I mean that would be like they don't aren't mandator but it's it's being done every day. >> Okay. >> Now whether or not >> they participate I didn't know participate that's what I was asking just in case. >> Yeah the part the practice might be mandatory across the board but obviously participation cannot be >> okay. Um the next item was the >> and I just wanted since first read it sounds like we want to do the the first option not the other >> good with that. >> Yes. >> Okay. Can I ask one one comment because if you want to go personal sign but it does say the board
065requires all students to recite the pledge of allegiance during school. Do you not only use the word recite that makes it sound like everybody has to >> I would say provide the opportunity to I don't think we should. I think we need to that language. Thank you. See what it says? Requires just bring that up. >> Um somewhere it says that >> if you go first the person one. >> Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, we can add that other part in there where the board recognized the belief that some persons prohibit participation in the pledge. the United States opening exercise. >> Okay. >> Or that such person are excused from participation. >> Are you guys is everybody okay with that? >> I'm trying to find it real quick. What Libby said is um go with number
066one, but don't say that they have to recite it. Have to recite it. Keep it there, I guess. But then on the other one, the third paragraph, the third board recognizes that police some people prohibit transmission pledge add that to the first line the board okay with that then doesn't make them mandatory have to recite >> yeah so it's optional at that point >> I just make sure that's okay with the board so go back and fix this one um my concern concern had to do with the criminal background checks. It's just that the volunteer a volunteer may have to have the background check criminal background check and I should I want to remove that may >> um to clarify because this kind of crosses over to what I do with the food pantry. There
067may be volunteers that are doing nothing more than physically moving boxes and that kind of thing. I don't know. You know, there's different levels of volunteers. So, we always we're thinking about who's around the students. And >> this says unsupervised. >> Correct. And we're in the student um we do education. So, I think at any place we possibly could come in contact with the student. And I just think that it would be safe for our background check. >> Yeah. Because I mean if it was just a volunteer, but this is unsupervised. And I think that needs to be mandatory. >> I I don't want to take away the management's ability. Let's say it's it's landscaping that's being offered or something like that where it's just outside work. Um does help me clarify that. Is there
068is there do you see any opportunities where there may be volunteers that are maybe unsupervised but totally not around students? They may be doing landscaping or some other type of activity or my best think the sentence there in the volunteers because it says that >> it's unsupervised access to students. >> Can you read exactly and then on the volunteers paragraph at the bottom of page one. >> Correct. >> Yes. >> Yeah. The district notifies current and prospective volunteers or will have unsupervised access to students on a regular basis that our criminal records may be conducted at any time. >> Thank you. You want to change the may to will >> or shall be conducted? >> Shall be. That sounds good. And that was my last one. >> Um, >> yeah. The only other one I
069have is J E D. Let me pull that up real quick. What was it? G. Um, J E Da. Um, okay. And that was the changes are based on um updated Ohio policy direct. >> Okay. That's the only other one I have. I wanted to look at the uh policy. Is there anybody else? I'm sorry. Did you have >> No, mine's the ones that Thank you. So in uh foxtraw echo foxtra fe um it mentions other methods and I just uh wanted to have the reasoning behind that what other methods we might be referring to. get there please I think are you referring to the or other manner allowable under state law >> right yeah what's the reason >> um and keep in mind this this isn't this particular one is not my recommendation fe
070is updated it says to reflect revised bid guarantee options it's recommended from OSBA. I don't I don't know what those other options are. >> Wouldn't that be part of that consortium >> would be one of them? >> And then the other thing we can do when we have those questions OSA ODA being our policy provider, we do have access to call legal mail. So where Mr. Group not and we want additional um insight, we can always call OSBA legal hotline. They're now our policy provider. >> That sounds good. I'll park that one and get the answers there. Thank you. >> Um and then the other one that I I have the same ones of living primarily. Uh I keep excuse me India kilo echo I K. Um I just wanted to know what the idea
071was. Um why why we wanted to make changes to that in general. >> Uh I I K Yes. >> Uh again, that's updated the OC 3313609 uh removing the requirement to use truency as a as a reason to hold a student back. >> Okay. Thank you. >> So that's just the change in the state law for correct. It looks like for more than 10% of required absent days in a school year is what that change was. >> So actually going going back to if we list again. Uh the first part says must be customized prior to adoption. That's where we have to either add things and make a choice. So we have to do something to complete it. And then the next ones the the ones that say action revised and go on from there
072are are typically pretty much required. they're being revised because of some type of a OC or or like House Bill 96 or some type of law change and it's reflecting the language of those changes. And I think in those the two big ones we probably definitely need to speak about would be the last three um the school IND um and JC and JF dealing with school ceremony services for patriotic exercises religious expression days um and religious type of religious instruction if there's anything that we want to change or how we will go about getting that information to uh our treasurer and superintendent. So when we have our second read, we have our input in those since those we have 10 policies that um require us looks like to be customized prior to adoption. >> But
073you made your recommendations, right? Yes, that's correct. Okay. I I think I mean what we've historically done um we have some discussion here but also uh we give a window of time for for feedback from board members um and and then from that point we would craft options to bring back to the second read for final decision and to take action. When when would you like that? You tell me. reasonable time is is a week from today enough so we can just go through final provisions of close business on the 18th that'll be next Tuesday. >> Next Tuesday does that work with everyone? >> Mr. Kers, does that work with you? >> I'm sorry. Um Libby, could you restate what you said? Said I've got something about Asians on the screen and I'm sure that's
074not what you were saying. I said that um since we've already gone through them, we can just do our recommendations for the re any revisions that needed to be made that we felt that um rather than options that were selected. >> So we get those two. >> Okay. Yeah, I would say just on the one just subject to what time it takes to get feedback from the OSBA. I think that's great. And then if we get the revisions on the 18th, if we can get them back out before the next board meeting with revisions. So that gives you guys some time to look at them before the next board meeting. >> Can we not get it like when we get the Can we get it before we >> like we did here? >> Yeah. >>
075Get them out. >> Thank you. >> So would a week after next Tuesday work and then that would give us two weeks before the next board meeting. >> Yeah. So if you get us to if you get the stuff to me and Jamie by the 18th, let us give us a couple turn those around and then we'll get to you guys before Thanksgiving. That gives you guys 15 days to your thing and if there's something there that still needs question, you guys can always email us and make sure we get everyone so then in December we can do the second read. That's okay. >> I just want to say thank you for getting these out to us early so that we could get through them all. Appreciate >> and saying thank you. It was very
076helpful. >> All right, on to item three, which is the discussion of radon. >> Thank you, Mr. Robert. Um, I'm gonna have Dave uh come up. Um, Dave Dave has been working on this since the initial notice. So, you want to take us through a little bit of just kind of the timeline and who we've talked to and where we are. Um, I know I've provided an update for the board, but I wanted to have some of this discussion uh be because um I'm going to fast forward a little bit, steal some of Dave's thunder. Um, we would like to consider having uh mitigation done over the holiday break. Uh, while we don't have a final plan for that and Dave will talk us through what's happened to this point, it is timesensitive matter, but
077we I'll probably jump the gun to talk about that. So, let's let's go through the process and bring everybody up to speed. Okay. So, the initial concern was emailed to the building principal. Elementary on May 16th, which was a Friday, at 3:55 p.m. Um, building principal forwarded me the email on the 17th, which was Saturday. And then when I received it on the 19th, that Monday, upon return, that's when I contacted um the local company who's the expert in radon and also a company that we have worked with They're environmental specialists. They specialize in asbestous, radon, things of that nature. They act more an owner's rep, if you will, to oversee to make sure everything's done properly. So, I contacted both them on that Monday. We got testing set up for the room that was
078in question by the end of May. Um, on June 5th, we met to discuss the results. They were high. We met at on June 11th to formulate a plan on how we were going to mitigate the issues in that room. On July 7th, the work began. Um on August 12th, we received an acceptable report that we had achieved our the desired goal and that levels in that room were below permissible standards. So all was good. And then we wanted to test the rest of the building since we knew that there was an issue. Now, there's a couple things. When you talk with the Ohio Department of Health, who we've talked with, and both of the companies that we're working with have had many conversations with them, they say that the tests have to be done
079conducted between beginning of October and I think it was March. Okay. So, we needed to wait until basically we started back to school. So, these are three day tests and they a number of canisters throughout the building and those canisters cannot be moved or touched until the completion of the test. So it's very hard to do when you've got a building with 500 students. So overcing over those days we received the results on October 30th from those tests. And on November 4th, we uh already had a call scheduled with both companies that I mentioned earlier to establish a plan and find out information on what we needed to do to mitigate the entire um none of us are radon experts. So we were looking for some guidance. Uh that was on November 4th. Then on
080November 5th, we also had a phone call or phone conference with the Ohio Department of Health and Franklin County Board of Health to we want to make sure that we're following their recommen recommendations and doing everything as they prescribe. So that brings us up to what we're doing now. Communications have gone out to the families. We met uh Friday with the staff at Dunlow and talk to them on what's taken place, answer their questions at least to the best of our ability at the time. What we are attempting to do now is there will be testing uh later this week. We have to bring in the environmental specialist again. They're going to do some testing for they've got to look at asbestous and some other things on where these mitigation systems are going to be
081installed. So that happens this week. Then we are encouraging as much as we can both companies to be able to come in and do the mitigation throughout this building over Christmas break. Originally they were saying it would probably be next summer. We are asking them to improve upon that if at all possible to do this over Christmas. It's typically at least 12 days worth of work. So, it's cutting it very close. They've told us they can probably if everything works out get the system installed over Christmas and then testing would follow that and then we probably get the test results a couple weeks later. But that's what we are attempting to make So, I want to share a couple of additional things just in full disclosure. Um, and I don't remember if Dave said Dave
082said this or not, but with that building they're estimating it would take nine systems. Uh, each one serving four to five classrooms. So, part of it is you have the the fans that act as a vacuum and exhaust the gas out. Uh, in addition to that, any place where there are access points, where there are cracks, uh, openings, those have to be sealed because that's places where radar can get in. And, uh, back to what Dave said about when the testing is supposed to happen, Ohio Department of Health um, specifically says that it needs to be done in the heating season between October to March. And what they told us, the reason is um, when it is cold outside and we're running our heaters, our build turn into a chimney and that heat rising pulls
083from the ground up and that's so they want to test in the worst possible scenario. Uh the other thing um and and they they did originally talking about the mitigation recommendation but also said that protocol would be that you would do a second test and take the average. Um we think that the numbers were high enough that we should move forward with the mitigation. um just from a a safety issue for our our staff and our kids, which is why it might uh take um an action of urgent necessity to move faster than going out and doing design with an art, you know, with a company and and and bidding and and things like that. So, if we're going to try to get something done over the Christmas break, we're going to have to move
084at the quickest face possible. Otherwise, we would be not looking until next summer. >> So, I have a question on the um what does the health department say for our students and our staff? What's the guidance there? >> They don't give you a number where they say you've got to evacuate the building or close down. Okay? They just give you the numbers on what they recommend the level should be. >> So, so Libby, specifically to your question that if you are above four, is it people liters? >> Yes. >> Of rate on that testing, the recommendation is to mitigate and I think every room except for the room where we have the current mitigation system is over that. the ranges vary. Um in the health department or in the um radon testing report, it gives
085a a room by room what those what those numbers are. >> So, >> and I guess I don't I don't know much about radon at all. So, um how long what are did they give you an idea of what the exposure like the prolonged exposure what it does and what >> Yeah, I think I can answer that. >> Okay. >> Um I don't and I don't understand anything about the health. >> So, you know, we we've seen several different reactions. Uh some to people being overwhelmed and and am I safe and and I don't feel comfortable to people saying, "Well, there's radon everywhere and you know, not a big thing." Uh in one of the communications we've sent out to families, it goes to the high department of health uh website and and Basically, they're
086not going to say that this is radioactive. So, they're not going to say that any level is a safe level, but anything that's above four, they recommend mitigation. But, you know, when So, there's this chart and I pulled this out. I highlighted this. I thought this might be of interest. And it's rate on risk if you smoke and rate on risk if you've never smoked. And it's broken down by the people leaders. Um, now here's a caveat to this. It says if a thousand people who smoked were exposed to this level over a lifetime and the other one said if a thousand people who never smoked were exposed to this level over a lifetime and it gives the percentages at 20 and 10 and 8 for and and things like that and then it compares
087it to the danger, the risk of compared to drowning, dying in a fire, dying in a fall and things like that. So, I I think their point is um they recommend that you test. They recommend that you address it if it's over four. You're probably not going to ever get the health department to say that this is a safe level of radiation you're supposed to. Uh but um I I think you know what they recommend to us for testing, what they recommend to individuals in your home is if it's over four, you do the mitigation and they have it checked again. And you know, under for, you know, is is under their mitigation request. Um, and and again, they don't they don't give anything that's published that says, you know, if it's been a year
088at this level, this is a sort of thing. Everything is if if this was your exposure for an entire lifetime, what it's going to be, >> right? I was gonna So, also the EPA and and the administration now is looking to roll this back. It's always been very controversial. Initially, what they did was they took if it's a thousand units, if you're working in a uranium mine, um then one 100th of that must be 100 as bad. But some some scientists and agencies actually say that lowd dose radon is regenerative and it's they've actually run tests on animals where they show that it actually helps in the healing process because part of our normal air. So, it's it really is that's why you get the different answers because there's two totally different scientific sides to
089this. But when it comes to, you know, December versus June, I mean, I don't think from what I can see, I don't I don't know that there's some fire there. The real question I have and what we know is that if someone's complaining about the health issue, it's affecting my health. Now, that's not radon. So, what other air quality tests have we done? I know you mentioned asbestous, but did we totally figure out what else is in there? That's the first question I have. >> No, we haven't done any other indoor air quality test as of yet. Once we found out that, you know, this tested higher than the acceptable level, this is where we started. Um, we've started bringing in more fresh outside air uh through our heating and cooling systems. And as we
090go through this and we get these levels below, we can do other testing. But once we found this issue, we wanted to concentrate our efforts on this. >> Well, from my understanding, I think and I think you research it. If it's an immediate health issue, it's not radon. It's not radon doesn't make you feel sick. Radon is maybe possibly if you believe it, lung cancer 20 years down the road. but also countries that have higher levels of radon like Sweden and higher levels of smoking have per capita lower lung cancer rates which kind of adds to the controversy but anyway um I think you might have answered my next question are we doing fresh air into our HBAC system where we're pulling in we're not rec just recirculating we have an efficiency system that actually
091pulls outside air to heat >> yes that's correct We've already met, Superintendent Groove and I met with our HVAC specialist and we have asked him to basically open up the outside air dampers to we're bring where we are bringing in as much fresh outside air as possible. We're also keeping the building under positive pressure as a temporary stay because obviously it radiator comes in and it looks for lower pressure to do that. So by keeping the building under positive pressure that should reduce is our what is the efficiency of our HVA system C7 do you know that is it >> most of our units are older units so we don't have a real high efficiency >> so if we if as our first step we brought in a higher efficient HVAC system that would draw
092much more external air might that not mediate this versus putting fans in sucking air out of the I'm not going to say that it wouldn't help. It would probably help. Um, you'll probably have an HVAC system large enough to do the whole building, which would be ideal. You're probably going to spend a lot more money on that than you are the mitigation system that you know for certain is going to work. >> But the flip side of that is there might be energy credits. There might be energy credits might for itself and the longterm uh cost effectiveness it might also versus just dumping into a mitigation system. I think when you bring in radon people they sell you radon stuff that's so you might want to be talking to HBAC people and and saying hey
093we need more oxygen in here we need more outside air and they may come in and you probably know the process where you look at um the gas company and their rebates and the electric company and their rebates and you say over the the next 15 years the system pays for itself and that may that may that would increase our air quality also. So I would think it might be a wise thing right now to engage them and see what the exchange rate is of a more efficient system etc. Yeah. And I I don't disagree with you saying air quality. I mean, to be quite honest, um I think most of the systems were redone maybe 15, 18 years ago, >> right? >> Um and so they're probably approaching end of life as it is.
094Um I I guess what I'm suggesting is that that's a long-term fix, but shouldn't Should we consider the mitigation system as a as a short-term fix? >> Yeah, if I can one thing and John, you're absolutely right. According to Ashray standards and things of that nature, we would be bringing in a lot more outside air based on today's standards to what the standards were 17 years ago. But one of the other things to consider though is if we go down that road and look at H new HBAC equipment, which I definitely think we need to, there's no way that can happen before Christmas break. And it would be that's I mean by the time we got architects and engineers involved, some HVAC equipment alone is a year lead time, >> right? >> So it's going
095to slow the process down dramatically. >> Yes, true. Um possibly I but again that could that could mitigate and and then so you're buying one system when you didn't need it and we're rushing to a 30-day solution on a 20 30 40 year out problem. So, I mean, I see the urgency in improving air quality, but I also see if someone's had a health concern, which is what >> what prompted this, then there's and if it's valid, right? If it is environmental in our building, then that's that's way more than radon. So, if we start exchanging oxygen into the building from outside, we are probably taking care of a whole lot of other and we could even include better filtration. And then we may be addressing the real unknown if there is one. >> Again,
096I agree with you. Normally with the newer systems, the MER rating of the air filters that are installed in the new units is much better than what it was 17 years ago. That goes into the calculations on how much air you moving across the oils to how much you can be filtered. So again, for a long-term fix, I think it's an outstanding idea. But again, worst case scenario, we could be a year out. Maybe we'll improve upon that a little bit, but I would say it wouldn't be any better than nine or 10 months. And then what other I mean, obviously, there's more than one way to air out a building, right? So, if it's a short-term thing and you have to work on it for a year, there's plenty of ways to air out
097a building outside of mitigation. If you're just temporarily making a schedule to allow outside air into a building that can be maintained while we work through this versus brushing and paying extra Christmas labor. Right. >> Yeah. Right now, I mean, again, we're we've opened up the outside air dampers. We're running it. We took all the systems off of night setback mode. So, we're trying to move as much fresh air through the building as we can. So, right now, we're doing what we can outside of opening up all the windows and doors. Do we still have our contracting Dynamics? Because that's who we purchased our HBAC systems from and they started we started replacing them in 200 uh I think it was 15 and we were doing like two schools a year. So they're they are
098not that old. I mean I don't know how long these commercial size HBAC units last but And also I would extrapolate this over the seven whatever five or seven buildings. So again the bandaid if you can if you can fix it and we get energy savings pay back newer systems we're in a rush to cure something in one school that we would expect to find in five. They're all in the same aquifer. They're all in the same neighborhood. So I mean I am not at all for dragging solutions out but at the same time um having haste makes waste and I think even from an installation standpoint if you ask anybody to install in a few weeks over Christmas you don't get as good install as you do over keep in mind that there's a
099cost associated with with doing what you're suggesting as well when we're running it we're not doing night setbacks we're running occupied 24 hours a day. We're bringing in the most fresh air as possible. We're keeping it um under positive pressure. We're going to have increased energy usage. We're running inefficiently. Um and I don't know how big the building is. I'd imagine it's probably 40,000 square feet. Um, so there there's a cost. It's like it's like bumping up your heat day and night at home with the windows open. Um, to avoid putting in a a system to my I don't I haven't seen we don't know. We don't have any way of measuring that right now. You can't really speak to that one versus >> I I don't know what the exact number is, but I
100I'm sure it's not as efficient to >> No, no. I'm just talking about rushing into Christmas solution versus permanent solution versus I think I think it needs some data analysis I think would benefit from because I agree with what you're saying but I don't know what you're saying exactly because I haven't seen numbers thank you >> I just whatever's the best for families and their staff that's the most important and if it's to move quickly then that's what we do because their health and safety is the most important to us >> that's what the health department recommends Correct. So, can I ask a question for the treasur? How much does it cost to mitigate one building and how much would it be to put like a HBAC unit in one building just >> in Dunlow
101right now? The initial estimate >> to install the mitigation systems throughout the building would probably be in the neighborhood of 70,000 to do the HVAC unit. I I don't know what that system cost back in 2015 or whichever year it was. I would have to look that up. I don't have that number off the top of my head. But my guess is if we did HBAC systems throughout that building um with architects, engineering fees, and things of that nature, you're going to get into several hundred,000 if not. But and I can get you a per square foot cost estimate if you wish. Um I just don't have that number off top of my head >> because I don't know if you're doing you're doing square foot. I certainly wasn't anticipating all new duct work and
102all that. So, we really need to It shouldn't cost us anything to get an estimate for replacing the units, right? >> Yeah. I can uh call up some of the engineers and architects I know and because they do them, you know, all over the state for different school districts. So they could give me a ballpark number that if they're looking at, you know, systems are running $200 a square foot for replacement or 300 or whatever that number is. And that number may be high. I'm just using it as an estimate, but I can definitely get a per square foot cost for you. And so you at least have a ballpark idea. I'm saying the exact opposite. I'm saying call an HBA HVAC company and see if you need anything beyond the actual furnace unit with
103higher efficiency and input because if you do a square foot model, the architect or engineer is going to assume duct work and a lot of work that an HVAC company that we we should have plenty of relationships with. I would call a design bill. Just have them come in and give us an estimate and then it will be accurate and stand by it versus an estimate from an architect firm or an engineer firm that is a swag and then you can pay them more to find out. I think I think the most efficient fastest way is to call the provider from our last call few providers and just have them come in because they're going to have firsthand knowledge of what they need to to make the system work without having to hassle with engineers
104and architects who are going to not really know. They're going to have to other people in to get the answers >> and I'm happy to do so. >> Thank you. Any other discussion? On to item G, superintendent agenda. I just want to make sure I'm I'm correct in my understanding. So, at this point, we're going to look for quotes for HVAC um from a HBAC company, but we are not moving forward with the mitigation. >> I do agree with that. I think >> I didn't even agree with that. I I just want to be able to make an informed decision. So, I think um I'd love to see numbers, not not just real wild guesses. We already know the mitigation cost number. Um we don't know the HBAC number. Um and also again um if
105you're looking at $75,000 for a building um we're being very reactive because we're addressing one building where there's no reason to believe there's not. >> But the thing is you don't want to put families at risk. >> We do what we need to do to get it done. >> Yeah. I was going to say the same and I didn't where we were saying we weren't going to look at the rest of the district. It was right now trying to address what we know is right happening right now where we have our teachers, our administrators and we have parents and students there. >> So that's what we're discussing and then the plan forward for the rest I believe we have that but I think the importance right now the students and our teachers who are in
106that building and let's get that done that they're recommending that we do mitigation. I say we do that and if we still find that we should do back we I don't think there's any dollar or cost that is more important than our students and our teachers. So to me, it doesn't matter about that. It matters about making sure that they have what they need and that they're safe and healthy. So that's where I stand. >> There's something that could be said about just feeling the the ease that knowing that it's been taken care of. >> Yep. Agree with that. So we're all agreeing even though we don't know that 90 30 days exposure is this horrible thing in six months or a year is not or whatever like there's huge difference between 30 days and
107a year but if you're arguing that you haven't researched I mean >> I'm not a expert on radar but I'm airing on what the department of health has recommended and that's what I >> the department of health did not recommend did they recommend that we do this by Christmas or did they did they say anything about a timeline a year out versus >> from my understanding and what I read in the board update the timeline was based upon what Mr. Houseman stated was because we don't want anyone in the building and that made sense so we didn't have to cancel school the kids already out of school which makes it good for the teachers good for the parents as well as the administrators so that was the best time for us since we already had
108that break planned so I don't think it was about them saying we needed to do it then it was This is our perfect timing. Break is upon us and we could use that time to get that done and the days wouldn't line to be close as you stated, but we could try to accomplish that. Is that correct, Mr. Hman? >> Yeah, it is correct. And as far as the Ohio Department of Health goes, they typically recommend two tests. Okay. If your numbers are close, they'll recommend two tests and you take the average of those two tests. Our numbers were not that close to four. Okay. So, we were trying to expedite this process, not pay the extra money for a second test because we knew they weren't going to come down low enough to be
109below the acceptable levels and move forward with the mitigation process. So, that way we wouldn't incur the cost of the second test unnecessarily. >> So, we're just skipping the test and going straight to correction, right? >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> And the dollar value is uh under the required is that 75,000? >> Yes. As of right now on their estimate, they believe that yes, it will be under the threshold for going out to public. >> Okay. And that that is from my understanding too that that means for vote on that. Correct. >> Yes. >> Okay. I just want to make sure >> and if it's over then let us know so we can have whatever special meeting or emergency meeting so we can get that voted on and approved so you guys can do
110what needs to be done for the school piece. >> Yes. So my my thought is we move forward immediately. >> That's my thought as well. Well, I could I I we're skipping over the step that the Ohio Department of Education recommended. And if you did a second test, um as since we saw things were were stable across the different rooms, I wouldn't think you would have to duplicate everything in the building. Um but on one hand, we're saying uh Department of Health and these numbers and on the other hand, we're saying skip skip the process. um seems it seems like we're rushing into things and I'm certainly not in for major air quality issues are putting the students at risk. I agree with everything you all said about that. Um what what we're looking at
111is is not from from homes and other things. This level is not something that is would cause anyone complain about their immediate help. So I I appreciate all the enthusiasm. I think I think it's great that we're airing on the side of caution to an extent, but on the other side um I I I don't think we've really thoroughly researched this and I think we're being a little premature. Thank you. >> Okay. Uh superintendent's agenda, we're going to do department reports and Ask CBS to come up first. You're welcome, Terry. Ladies and gentlemen, board administration, my report stands submitted a lot of action this past month on school bus safety week and Teresa had the Ohio Highway Patrol in there talking about downable defects, which was really interesting. I wish we had that. of engagement
112across our whole company because uh we we had to spread the good news that when a a school bus driver does a pre-trip and they find a doubtable defect that bus is down and they don't have the confidence a lot of times to challenge the mechanic and all this other good stuff. So it was great. And the other thing she brought in is Heather Free again from the Department of Education and Workforce and as she updated them on some laws and the new rules at the State Department which drivers felt, you know, very very well informed and engaged on very positive uh state rodeo happened and Jared won again. So, he's going to Austin and we're all excited about that. And Mr. Houseman has been uh very busy uh with our auto fuel dispenser system
113uh coming on board. It's scheduled to be in installed I think pretty soon. And the other big thing is of course passing motorists which is our biggest problem. Uh your your drivers uh are being trained through our our safety program uh to identify the spot at which it happens because we did get the quotes on the external cameras and unfortunately to put them in we're have to redo all the cameras because the upgrade will require. So, we're our $150,000 contribution will will get us about halfway there. So, we're going to be working with uh Tesa on some grants. There are there's $10 million of brand new school bus safety grants available and we're hoping to to get that submitted and see how it goes. But we definitely want to get those cameras installed because when
114the drivers of course see the motorist passing very frustrating and uh we we've done this in Johntown. We put it in in effect in Johntown two years ago. And once the highway patrol, the sheriff and the local police understand that you have these cameras, they respond very quickly because they have the evidence to go uh pursuit. So that completes my report. Any questions? Thank you. Uh next we have special education update. >> Good evening everybody. So this is a really exciting opportunity that we're hoping comes to fruition. Um so Jamie Paul and I had a conference call with a person from the OSU education department. Um they currently similar program other buildings and other school districts where the methods class for teachers [clears throat] go to school is held actually at a school so they
115see what they're getting into right away. And so we met with them and what we're working on and hoping happens is that we're able to actually bring one into work for special ed um specifically and they have a large interest in VI or visually impaired kids have a good little nugget of that but being able to read our that makes sense, make them cruisers, keep them cruisers and then that will hopefully start to work on some of our staff issues. So that was something that really encouraging, exciting. So there'll be some more meetings from that and nothing would all come to fruition. Nothing would take place in the fall, but it is something that we are super excited about. >> That's great. >> Thank you. That's awesome. How did you guys stumble upon that? >>
116So a little bit of nepotism. So, um, the teacher is next door to my husband at West High School. So, he was like, "Hey, you need to do this with special ed." And she was like, "I don't know any great special." My wife is awesome. >> So, that's how we kind of ended up with that. >> Relationships and networking is important. >> See, but no, it's super exciting and that's been a great program for them. >> That's awesome. Are they What other school districts are they in? Are they're doing this? Are they in Columbus or any anyone else in Franklin County? >> It's Columbus City Schools. Um, they've tried places like it. They haven't picked them up. So, >> would we be their second school district? >> Great. >> Stay tuned. >> Thank you, Mandy.
117Next, we have business update. >> Okay. So my presentation is very similar to last month one and we'll go through the as far as the city of Groport road project. We'll go through that in a minute. It is basically just where we attended a meeting with the city and I'm providing the latest documents that they gave us. But the first question is as far as the flooding issue that we had at Groport Elementary and Middle School central several months back last month we talked about uh the civil survey and an underground storm line. Um after the board meeting I shared the survey with all of the board members. Basically I'm just looking for direction from the board. Is this a project you want me to move forward with or not? Um, right now the estimate
118from the architect's office is about 250,000 work. And keep in mind, the reason Dave's asking is we were told not to do anything else until we had this done. Any thoughts? >> What is your feeling about I I know it's not really been tested. What is your feeling about what you have going now? And also um what's your feeling about the BM being gone? BM B um being gone and the IVF ing that maybe with something a little bigger and with a little more gradual ramp to it so that we don't have the direct intrusion like we had a little bump in there somewhere and I was just wondering why we don't have something more substantial that would be the wheelchair accessible gradual what's your thoughts as far as practical you want to wait and
119see how this system responds or what's your thoughts >> well Uh, two things. First, I think the system will respond, in my opinion, to normal rain. Okay? If we get another storm like we got back in July to where the golf course flooded and was shut down for four days and people's basement are flooding, I mean, most of Groport was underwater. If we get that type of rain again, no, the system probably won't keep up. Okay? But it Anything that is fairly ordinary or even a little bit more than I believe the system will keep up. We did get some rain a month or so back for a full day and we didn't get a drop of water. Okay. So, I do think that it's functioning as intended. Um, as far as putting a burm
120or anything in there, if we stay far enough out, we could put the dam, if you will, back in. One of the problems with the dam that was there is as the water flowed down the asphalt, it was actually hitting that and then running behind it next to the brick wall. That was what was causing some of our problems. So, when we put the trench drain and the sump pump in, we remove that. We've got to be careful. We can't put anything too close to the doors because with the slope of the asphalt and the swing of the doors, there's not enough clearance. So, we would have to keep it out farther and if the board wishes, I'm happy to look into putting a burm or a dam back in and seeing if that will
121help. I was just trying to provide all the information that was requested. There was one other uh part to that and there was a recommendation to put an awning over that stairwell. That stairwell is a giant catch basin of water. >> It is all the I would like proposal and whether we move forward with the underground storm line or not, I would still recommend putting an awning over that back stairwell because right now everything's running down. And yes, we've replaced the that sump pump with a basically a sewage pump. We up the horsepower. up the discharge line, but I still think it would be money well spent to put an awning over that, help direct some of the rain away from that area and to regrade that back area. So, the landscape is sloping away
122from the building and not towards >> right. I did see some areas where it's definely >> the grade's terrible. If you put the new system in and we do have that Armageddon type flood event, we don't really have a guarantee that's going to keep the water out either. Correct. >> Yeah. No guarantees. >> Right. So, in your estimation, is the intrusion through the doors the biggest threat that building has? >> Yes. Um, on the front side especially, the intrusion was coming right through those front doors. in the back. It was coming down the back stairs, right, that we just talked about. And then um it funnels into the sump that's inside the building. >> So then as a practical application given what you've said and I think we touched on this before, are you familiar
123with the little flood things you can buy that are like four feet high and they just drop down in place? You know what I'm talking about? >> Could you repeat that, please? I'm not I will share with you. They make flood barriers. >> You just put in front of the door. They align with the pavement. They keep the water out temporarily. >> Yes. Now I know what you're talking about. I misunderstood. >> So if those were available to our maintenance staff and we have some torrential tsunami projected, I guess we could just use that and probably have a practical application. Well, if we're just so, am I understanding you correctly? So, at this point, we're going to wait to put in the underground storm line. We're going to figure out what we can do up
124front in case of torrential rains again and go ahead with the awning out back. And while I have the awning put in, um, there is a large concrete area right there that where the kitchen receives deliveries and things of that nature. We need a handrail. We are above the threshold as far as height goes without and we really need to have that handil. So I have that in that original proposal that we just talked about, but that's something that I would still like to move forward. Sounds good. >> The next part of this was again just the work road project. The handout that the city gave us, I scanned it in and tried to make it as large as possible so you would be able to see it. It may be a little grainy, but
125it is on the slides also. Flip through it real quick. I don't need to talk about every slide. They just want you to have the visual. Keep going. Again, that was just their cover page, but this is where you'll be able to see When we met, uh, Superintendent Groove and I, both building principles, our transportation director, um, Ty, our communications guy, everybody was there so we could start putting word out to the families, to the community, so we could come up with alternate plans also as far as safe areas for children to walk, transportation. So, we tried to include everybody in the meeting um from the district side that we thought was necessary. So, again, most of this is just FYI at the moment. >> And when are they expecting to start the project? >>
126This month. Okay. >> And and later on the agenda, there's a request from a for some temporary easement. You want to talk about that now, Dave? Yeah. What it is, it's mainly out in front of the building through a A lot of it is they've got to relocate a couple of poles and add some some guide wires, if you will, some supports. Most of that will go away after the project, but right now they're changing. Temporary Anyway, the A is asking for a couple of East so they can move the poles, relocate the electric, all of the um utilities as much as possible, they are relocating underground, but to keep everything powered in the meantime, they have to move some poles. So, I don't see that this is going to impact the district. Um, you
127know, a their temporary easements. I think it's very minimal for the amount of work that's going. >> Can you go back to the aerial photo? >> Yeah. So, I see. Can you point out I believe the grumpies and the little concrete buildings are all going away, right? Grumpy cycle or whatever they call it now. Right there. Those two gray buildings. >> Yes. >> They're going away. Correct. >> Yes. >> Where does work road end after they're done? >> Right. >> No, but the the leftover piece. So, there's a house there. So, they obviously have to keep traffic unless they're taking that house up. That or is that just a shed? Right here. Next, right into a fourway intersection. Yes, but the old work. >> Yes, that'll be gone. >> But there So it'll be gone
128somewhere past that house probably. >> Okay, thank you. >> Any other questions? Are we gaining any property from this? Are we gain any space? >> I think technically yes. >> Okay. I I think um part of the road easement. Yeah. Thank you. >> So when we do the easement, they will repair any damage that they do to the ground. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Any other questions for Dave? All right. Thank you, Mark. HR update, please. >> Mr. Good evening. Um, just to let you know, December 2nd, we are doing repair protesting. We try to do that four times a year for our education. As you know, we're always hiring education aids. So, we're trying to get them tested and uh approved. Um signups for college recruiting uh those have begun. Most universities are their
129recruiting starts, not recruiting, but their uh information goes out in late November, early November, late November, December. Um Miss Del um one of the things I heard I was when I was on vacation, I was listening to the board meeting and you had mentioned something about OSU. Um OSU usually passes out their information regarding recruiting usually last. Um they're usually somewhere right around the end middle January. Um that's when they pass the information out. You sign up to go, but it usually is early April. But it is the largest one we go to and it's the we take the right principles with us. So, just to let you know that's I'll be contacting principles for recruiting days. We also on the board agenda, we've we have several new classified substitutes that we're asking you to
130approve for tonight. We did like a huge onboarding for them. So, we're trying to get them started as soon as possible. >> I I have a couple questions. Um I know that um we have during our events for a while kind of looked at updating our columns pieces in our toolkit, marketing toolkit just because, you know, we're in a competitive market. You know, that public education, we've got school choice of course. What does that look like? Have you has the human capital department worked with comms to kind of refreshen that so it truly has a realistic view of what the district is and all the great information that um Mr. Moritzer shared about our state report card. What does that look like? We updated it last year with information regarding the district. Um there are
131parts of it that we need to update also. We worked with Tai last year. Um and I got to give some credit to Mr. Collier. He gave us an opportunity to get some awesome signs. I think maybe you might have saw some of them last year. Um it it we were the talk of the recruiting days because a lot of people when you go to Bowling Greenport unless you're from the area a lot of folks don't know us. So um I know that Bowling Green they put us it was just perfect area for us and was right where everyone was coming in can talk to but it was it was the big assignment. Um Ty and I went to he had it was a company that has worked with us before in the past. Uh
132but we just really upgraded our communications our signs with update updated them compared to previous years. >> And I was looking also like at our digital presence as well like on our website I sent a video a while ago I think it was from New New Orleans where they have a student reading about the school. Um I don't know if that to whoever but I don't know if we have something like that and then we're always recruiting so what is our digital like do we have a digital toolkit for our principles are out in a lot of places they have virtual business cards you know what is the LinkedIn profiles look like stuff like that so that was just my question to go alongside this because where we are now you know especially with us
133trending upward especially with our academics and we got a lot we still have work to do but I think those pieces um I don't know if there's a plan. They could probably kind rehash that again and maybe step it up a little bit more as well. >> Sure. >> Um I just had a couple things. Um how are we on student teachers? Um are we getting that program back to moving around? I know we lost a lot at one point. I didn't know how >> Carol's actually working with our student teachers. >> Okay. >> And um I know that we've just started to receive more information. universities regarding the winter >> okay >> winter season >> and then what are you seeing as a trend you know before it was the students going into education
134had dropped considerably just kept dropping it maybe >> it it's it's not turning actually Mike and Carol went to a high state last year with us and previous years they've used this hall it's RG Griffin Hall but they open these doors and hundreds teachers used to come through those doors. Um, and it was kind of depressing. Um, it seemed like maybe 80 or so teachers. The difference though is is I think what we're trying to do too is obviously high states our largest. We go after as many as we can. Um, but it's also, you know, we we talked to Musk Kingdom last year. That's a place that we didn't really go to. Um, right now I've signed up for two places because that's the only ones that have have their information. is one and
135Central State is another. So, we're in the process. We we go to roughly about 15 different places and some of those places have more than just one university like we go to Cincinnati and Xavier, Cincinnati, Northern Kentucky, St. Well, we go to Miami also. Um, but Miami actually is going to be is is what they had on the website is they are going to be at Xavier this year. Normally they have their own, but I think trying to be competitive and trying to make sure they know what we're doing and how we're handling our our students and the success of our students and success of our teachers is very important because one one thing I will say is I agree with you with the with the digital footprint because they're very wise. As soon as
136you have a convers I mean this is how it goes. They come around, you walk in and you're, you know, we have principles and they're and they're talking with them saying, "Hey, you know, have you heard of some of the good things?" We set up an interview with them. We sign them up and they come back to us, but the first thing they do is they go away and they get on their computers. Sorry. They get on their computers and and their their phones and they're they're checking out Groport. They come back and they have information about Groport. So, I mean, they they look at our website and they come back with questions about our website. So, you know that they did their research. So, you have to be ready for that. So, I agree
137with you uh in regards to the digital. Thank you, Mark. Uh and now we have Kelly for student services. >> Um so, we continue to enroll students um last night. We have students started on August 11 and so August 12th until now. So, uh another wonderful thing is that who lives with United Way. We have I meet with the social workers once a month and she brought a hand like at least resources for anyone who might have food and she shared that with our social workers students. >> Just on what we've asked tonight, we're going to be on schedule to make sure things are done as we had planned. um from in October we talked about as long as we had it approved in November, we could be on course for things in December for
138them to start seeing students after break. Correct. >> I am hopeful that that is still true. We didn't know what's going to happen tonight. Um and so we're very happy what happened. Um and um I think that I'm hopeful that they haven't lost their contractors. So, I I want to just be hesitant um but I can get information to you and um we can email it necessary when I'll talk to Michelle um who is my regular contact there. >> I would just say add to your resources the fellowship food pantry. >> Yes, that is we have a list. Yes. >> So, yeah, we're we're working with human needs and I think between our our pantry and their pantry, we're providing about 13 for Thanksgiving >> for the community. And if you do have people that
139are food insecure, don't forget us. We have we provide quite an impressive array of food and it's a shop through experience and we're happy to help when we can. >> Thank you, Kelly. >> Adam, you're next. Um the treasure recommends a girl from Mass Board of Education for the next October 14th regular board meeting >> second Mrs. Gray as first Mrs. Dber second discussion hearing none to roll call please >> Mrs. Gray >> Ir Mr. Motion passes. >> Okay, we are moving to the new number three. >> Which is the superintendent recommends that the Girl Madison Schools Board of Education approve the GMLA link six sigma. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Mrs. Dberger is first. Mrs. Gray is second. On to discussion. Um the was easy enough to read and that is because we're
140training 20 of our teachers to become lean six sigma black belts to work with kids. Uh when you look at um our college career military readiness, one of the things uh we worked with lead the way last year and this was one of the things that that they provided. So there is both thisou for training our teachers to do that and then the item is the contract with Fairfield County ESC. So, unless you have any questions, >> this is the part we're bringing in. This was one of the >> That's correct. >> Yes. >> Roll call, please. >> Mrs. Grant. >> Hi. >> Mr. B. >> Hi. >> Mr. Deliver. >> Hi. >> And Mr. Hi. >> Motion passes. The superintendent recommends that the Growport Madison School Board of Education approve the contract with Fairfield
141County Education Service Center for access to the link six sigma leadership excellence online learning courses. >> Second, Mrs. Dorder is first, Mr. Hersner second. On to discussion. >> This is the other half of the part we need to train our kids. And remember the leadway was 250,000 a year where you can see the price in here is a lot cheaper and it's brought in house. >> On to roll call please. >> Mr. Gray. >> Hi. >> Mr. Bowers. >> Hi. >> Mr. Zelder. >> Hi. >> And Mr. Motion passes. >> New item five. Superintendent recommends the G for Madison schools board of education approve the 2026 2027 and the 2027 2028 school calendars as submitted in the attachments >> second Mrs. Gra first Mrs. that over a second on to discussion. >> Um was this
142um these two calendar are voted on and ratified by the um correct? >> Yeah, Carol's coming up to Mike. >> Yeah, both calendars were sent out and survey to the staff. Um they had I believe at least by contract the negotiated agreement they have at least five days to respond. Think we had it open longer than that, but it was at least five days. Um, the 2627 calendar received 42.8% of the votes, 334 responses, and then the 2728 calendar received 51.9% of the votes um with 322 responses. >> And those were chosen out of the top of three options. >> Yes. All there were three options for each um for each each year. So then the other percentage was split between the two. >> Gotcha. >> Was it was it very close? Is there much
143division on those? >> Um for the 26 27th school year option, the the the the one that received the most votes was 42.8. Then the second highest was 31.7. Um and then for the 2728 it was 51.9 and the next highest was 29.8% % of the >> a little closer for uh 26 27 >> and what was the if you can you summarize like what was it the 31% wanted on the this upcoming school year >> I don't have that calendar in front of me um with all three calendars there were differences in start date end date um how long or when it was spring break was Christmas break a full two weeks so I don't have that calendar in front of me to tell you specifically what was different about the days um kind
144of it's basically all the it's everything is 176 student days that didn't change it just was when the breaks were when the start was when the of course then that would affect the end date as well >> and so last question I think so what is it about the the 26 27 versus the 2728 that makes it I don't less controversial, but what what's the difference there that there would be a higher buy in on the second one than the first one? Is there something? >> And I don't know this for certain because I can't speak to the uh 322 people who responded, right? >> But I think one of the things with the 2728 calendar is when Easter falls. And so the spring break um was was agreed on or on that calendar is
145March 27th I believe through 31st. And then Easter is later in April. It looks like it's uh April 16th and we we have to give Good Friday off by the OC contract. And then the Monday after Easter is also off. So my guess is that was very appealing. We have a full spring break the last week in March and then in April we have Good Friday and a Monday. That is my assumption but I think that's a very appealing calendar to people. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> I did have a question. Um originally we had talked in the past when there was big debates over these calendars >> that OBC would be have a seat at the table. Were they at the table this year >> when they were setting their I had
146to think back to our meetings. They were at the table and they were part of the um they also received the the drafts as we were making them. So, yes, the the president was part of it. >> All right. Thank you. >> Yeah. Sorry about that. I had to think back. >> Roll call, please. >> Sorry. Mrs. Gray. Hi. >> Mr. Bower. Hi. >> Mrs. Dober. Hi. >> And Mr. Kersner. I motion passes. Okay. The new item six superintendent recommends the Gport Madison schools board of education approve payment of transportation reimbursement. >> Second. >> Mrs. Dber is first. Mrs. Gray second. Any discussion? up just the same. There's nothing like alarming. Just the same. >> Nope. This is as as you know, anytime a new students enrolled, we need to if if transportation is impractical,
147we have to put it on the next regular board meeting. And so these are three students that came in. >> Please, Mrs. Gray. >> Hi, >> Mr. Bower. >> Hi, >> Mrs. Dber. I >> and Mr. Gerson >> I motion passes. >> New item seven. Superintendent recommends Gilport Madison schools board of education approve the a temporary easement and rideway as outlined in the two attached funds. >> Second >> is first. Mrs. Dber second lot discussion >> unless there's any questions. This is back to what Mr. Houseman shared when he's given the work update. Roll call, please. >> Mrs. Gray, >> hi. >> Mr. Bain as a employee on this one. >> Mrs. Dber. >> Hi. >> And Mr. Kers. >> I motion passes. >> Can I bring up something real quick? Um, I don't know
148the school calendar we needed to action tonight. I think it's just >> Oh, that's right. >> It's a 30-day window. You're right. >> This was a >> It's not me. It's Mike. >> This was a first read. >> First read. Thank you. >> Could you repeat for me, please? >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> We did have it listed though as an action >> for the school calendar. It's I believe it's OC. Um, and it's also in our board policy. There's supposed to be a a first read of it. Um, I'm looking at policy. It says at least 30 days before adoption. The board the board holds a public hearing on the school calendar addressing topics including the total number of hours in the school year, length of the school day, and beginning dates of instruction.
149So, this is I think just a review and then you vote next month. So, do we have to take any action to undo the action? >> I I move that we amend the last motion. Uh to have approved that as a first read. >> I'll second. >> So, just approve it as first read instead of Okay. So, it's still an action but it's proven as first read. Okay. And That was John and second. >> Okay. All right. Please. Mrs. Gray. >> Hi. >> Mr. Bower. >> Hi. >> Mr. Dber. >> Hi. >> And Mr. H. >> I. Motion passes. >> I move to strike the uh previous vote. >> Yeah. You're striking what we just voted on. >> No. >> Okay. Before that. >> Yep. I second >> John Seth again. I'm just trying to
150type this up real quick. >> And this is the strike the first motion we took where we >> Exactly. The motion to approve the calendar. >> Correct. >> Okay. M >> Mr. Ber and >> Mr. I motion passes. >> Thank you. Sorry, I just need a second. I know it's me. Nate, can you control that for me, please? I just have my treasures reports on here. I'll go through those. So, month of October, they can bring up the first tab name cash flow. Sorry. So cash flow. >> Yeah, thank you. Um, so for the month of October, we brought in 3.7 million in state foundation and line 1.035 and total for the month we brought in 4.7 with other state foundation payments and some other revenues. Our personal expenses uh went up a little bit
151because um the first month of September was kind of the first payment of the new salary increase up a little bit 4.27 million for salaries. Um employee retirement stayed very similar almost 1.9 million virtual services very similar they're kind of averaging out now as you can see we was you know 3.7 million o expenses over revenue for the month but again that is very common um this time of year because again when we get our biggest tax settlements in August and March is where we make money and then the rest of the months we lose money. Nothing shocked me, nothing stood out. The numbers are came in within a normal acceptable range for me. Uh the next charter receipts Nate um just pulling that up. I can talk about it revenue state foundation 79%. Then
152the other part of state foundation is that 11%. So very typical 90% of our income came from state foundation expenses. Nate, thank you sir. um shows personal services and the retirement benefits 72.6% total personal services again 2.1 million that's a lot of well that's our CBS bill but also a lot of specialized cost unfortunately supplies materials only 162,000 and then other object 66 in line change from prior year after last October there really is not much I mean I mean 3.0 3.01 um or sorry 1.035 35 at the bottom. Sorry, the numbers are wrong. It increases state foundation. Like I said, um it's going to be it's going to be an increase for this month and next month. This was the performance index that U3 talked about that we got along with um the transportation
153permit, right? So, it's two months. They're doing all in two months and then it'll it'll go back down. So, but other than that, it stayed pretty similar to other than services, which again special cost of stuff, but other than that, pretty comparable to that report. >> Can you give us an update on the state of the affairs of our >> finances? >> Um yeah, House 186. Um we we did get a and I can get this out to you guys. We got a spreadsheet where it shows whole property tax issue. Growport should for the next two years got 56 million um in prop in property tax revenue coming in. Um, with the passage of House Bill 186, the amended, it's not totally passed yet, but the amended 186 I talked about last time, we're supposed
154to get 56 over the next two years. We're going to get 51.3 >> per year is all. So, I mean, you're looking at four and a half million per year that we're not going to be getting now that we should. >> So, times that by two, obviously, that's million. >> Hasn't passed yet, >> but does it look like it? >> It looks like it's going to pass. And of course they always they said, "Well, we partially backfilled it, you know, instead of us because what they said was tax year 24, we got like 50.3. You shouldn't be lower than that." I'm like, I'm thinking shouldn't be lower than that since it's three or four years down the road. Um, but you know, their whole thing is, well, we'll get an extra million dollars to go
155up to 51.4, whatever it's going to be, but we should be getting 56. I'll get that spreadsheet to you guys. And honestly, we're one of the biggest districts hurt by that. and I called the thing just based on our 45.9% increase two years ago catch up to us. So it's not good. >> So um what was atypical about our uh purchase services >> especially by cost just the rising for that for the 2.1 yeah special cost >> nothing special by way of purchasing just general cost >> general cost correct sir >> and then because are having trouble hiring staff. So, we have to outsource, >> right? So, so our our employee our our personal cost is probably a little bit lower because we're spending so much more money on >> contracting staff unfortunately and which
156again we would love to have it I would I know special ed would love to have teachers here and do that. We just can't find them. So, we have more money on contracting staff and that's why the personnel numbers went up a little bit but only 9,000 from last year and you know we gave a nice raise. So do the math. The money flowing to personal services instead of personal good. That's all. >> Thanks. On to item I, executive session. The board moves to enter into executive session to consider the investigation of charges or complaints against public employee official lency or regulated individual unless the individual requests a public hearing present to RC121.22. >> I have Mrs. Gray has first. Mrs. Dber has second. Um I think you said item I is that correct? Have
157we reorganized to where the first executive session is I or are we on H? >> We are on uh we're actually on item I because we had to add public participation. >> Yeah. When John when your came out we didn't have publication so we had to add it. So that's why everything got moved down the letter. So it's I now instead of H. >> Thank you. >> All right. Roll call please. >> Mrs. Gray. >> Hi. >> Mr. Bower. >> Hi. >> Mrs. Dberger. Hi. >> And Mr. G. >> I. It is 9:27 and we are in executive session. It's 11:21 and we have reconvened from executive session. On to item K, executive session. It is recommended that the Grop Madison Schools Board of Education enter executive session for the purpose of considering the employment,
158employment, dismissal, discipline, promotion, demotion, or compensation of a public official in accordance with OC121.22 move second >> Mrs. Gray as first Mrs. Dberger as second any discussion hearing none to the roll call please >> Mrs. Gray >> hi >> Mr. Hi >> Mr. Dber >> Mr. All right, motion passes. We are in executive session. 11:22. Yeah, it is 12:23. We have returned from executive session on to item item. Well, it'll eventually I can't add the items. It'll eventually be one. I can't add a category. >> Okay. M will be items that we move down. I just can't add items. I put it in L. Okay. by >> So Adam, am I calling these M1, two, and three? >> Yes, that' be called in one, two, and three. >> And is the previous superintendent items 3,
159four, and five, correct? >> I just can't add a category. Item M1, superintendent recommends we report Madison school board of education approve the following certificate of personnel items as outlined by attach. >> I would like to pull out the four administrative contracts individually. >> Mrs. Gray as first, Mr. A second. On to discussion. >> That was great. First John second. Sorry. Roll. >> Mrs. Gray. >> Hi. >> This is This is pulled them out to pull them out. Okay. >> Yeah. This is to pull them out separately. Um Mrs. Gray. I >> Mr. Bower. >> Hi, >> Mr. Mrs. Zberger. >> Hi. >> And Mr. >> Hi. Motion passes. >> And then now I'm going to add four different motions. Correct. >> Oh, good. I didn't hear any of that. All I got was a
160good one. What did you say? >> We have the rest of the certificate personnel to vote on outside of those four contracts. We still need to do that as well. >> Yes. >> Thank you. on that. >> Um what I would do now is I would say the superintendent recommends that the girl from board education approve the following certificate of personal items except for that's one type of except for the four admin checks. Is that is that good? >> So So what we're sorry I so what we're voting on now is there a motion there's a motion by Libya says superintendent recommends that the mass school board sports education approve the following certificate person items except for the four admin contracts and so far I have a Second. >> Okay. And again, this is for
161everything but the four ad contracts. >> Correct. >> Who was first? There's no >> uh Libby was first and then Latoy was second. >> Got it. Thank you. >> Please describe the order of the vote. >> Right now, we're just voting on the rest of the rest of the certificate stuff minus the four ad. >> So, we're going we're skipping past that and doing the next coming back. >> Yes. So, I did the one where we pulled four from it. That's already been done. This is the one every one of them but the four and then we'll do the four. >> Okay. I got a first and a second. >> Great. >> Mr. Gray. >> Hi, >> Mr. Bower. >> Hi, >> Mr. Hi. >> Motion passes. And then you guys tell me what contract
162you want to do first. >> I just don't have the front. >> I'm trying to write >> and so The consumer tenant recommends that the growing board education approve the following certified personnel item and that says I debit law. >> So moved >> second >> any discussion hearing none roll call please. Miss Grant >> I >> Mr. Bower >> Iber. >> Mr. No motion passes. >> Next one. I'm sorry I could not hear that. This the next one is D for David Houseman. >> All right. And so what I typed in was the superintendent recommends that the girl from Madison board education approve the following certificate personal item personel item for David house. >> So moved second myself as first. Mrs. Gray is second on to discussion. Hearing none. Who's roll? >> Mrs. Gray. >>
163Hi. >> Mr. Bower. >> Hi. >> Mrs. Der. >> Hi. >> Mr. Kersner. >> No. >> Motion passes. >> Next one. Who's next in line? >> Kelly. And I have the superintendent recommends that the girl for M education approve the following certificate personal item for Kelly. >> So moved. >> Second. I have myself as first. This is a second. On to discussion. On to roll. Mr. Gray. >> No. >> Mr. Bower. >> Hi. >> Mr. Dber. >> No. >> And Mr. >> No. Motion fails. On to Mr. Trace. Smart choice. >> All right. So, what I have is superintendent recommends that the education for the following certificate person. So moved >> second as first a second discussion please Mrs. Gray >> no >> Mr. Hi >> Mrs. Mrs. >> No >> and Mr. No motion
164fails. On to item two. Superintendent recommends to go Fort Madison schools board of education approve the following non-certificated personnel items as outlined in the classified board agenda. >> So second >> Mrs. Das first. Mrs. Gray a second. Any discussion hearing? None. Roll, please. >> Mrs. Gray, >> hi. >> Mr. B. >> Hi. >> Mrs. Dber. >> Hi. >> Mr. >> Hi. >> Motion passes. On to item three. >> Superintendent recommends that the Gport Madison Schools Board of Education approve the special education contracts as found in the file attachments. >> Second. >> Irrest first. Mrs. Gray a second. Any discussion? >> All right. Hearing none to roll. >> Mrs. Gray. >> Hi. >> Mr. Bower. >> Hi. >> Mr. Dber. >> Hi. >> And Mr. Hi. >> Motion passes. On to this is now going to
165be item. It'll be in. It will be. >> This is item N. >> Y. >> All right. On to items N. Comments. announcements and other business >> lead capital conference this weekend and I just want to highlight a couple things that are happening in the greater southeast area commission. Um I don't know if you guys are following the east plan and if any of our administration has been going and connecting with the greater southeast area commission. They had a lot of information this past meeting. I was trying to find my notes really quick, but um they're trying to be done by next summerish, I believe, and they've already started both building. There's space for juice community center OSU will be in there as another homebased clinic as well. Um and there'll be spaces for police
166officers and other city employees to operate out of that um old Kroger right there on the corner of Refugee and um Hamilton Road. It was a great um meeting. Um and I think it's important that we kind of go there's also some changes happening with some of the unincorporated portions of our road. They're doing a survey that's through December um because there's a grant for win part of Winchester Pike and no big um where they're collecting data on crashes which would then impact like the northern like that area. So, I will pass those notes to you guys, but I did go and I think it's important maybe if we get I'll try to keep going and provide that back, but it's going to be the um that's going through December. I don't know if we
167want to share that link with our community, especially in that area. Um but they're trying to figure out how to um I guess handle they got some grant dollars for federal safety grants for the roads in the southeast area that are owned by Franklin County. And then the east, it's called the Eastland Prosperity Center, so let me say that correctly. But it'll have full scale kitchen and all kinds of things in there. Um, oh, and they're sorry, they're beat up by the summer, but opening October 1st of 2026. >> And that's the old Kroger. >> The old Kroger. Yeah, >> I thought they tore it down. >> No, they kept talking about >> Nope. They've already started construction. They've got cameras because they've had people kind of >> break in a little bit, but they
168figured it out and they've I forgot what the fencing is called, but um that's where we are. So there's community rooms for meetings um such as the greater southeast area commission meeting which be better. It'll be better over in that area. But I'll just send you all my notes here. It was a good meeting. I think it's also there on their Facebook page, the greater area commission. Um, and I just signed up for the email reminders with the Eastland uh, Eastland Prosperity Center. >> So, um, yeah, the Air Mid Ohio is opening food center there >> and they've been delayed because as it was indicated there've been some copper and electrical theft when they got underway, but they will be opening soon. Um, so the traffic study with Toyota was that through the south was
169that through the county or the south >> county? Franklin County Engineers office. I'm sending the information to Jamie called them. But it's through the Franklin County Engineers office was there and there's this whole um they just finished like a deer survey as well, but this is for the and it's talking about a sidewalk. That was the other thing why I grabbed it because I thought it would be interesting for us to have that because it was talking about a sidewalk too that we would get. So, Thank you. >> Any other comments? >> Oh, just one more. Again, shout out to all of our schools that had veterans show up. Um, I saw the high school had folks there. Growport had a big program today and of course they brought the flags and thank you guys
170for acknowledging your veterans in the area. As always, I make myself available if a school doesn't have any veterans. Um, let me know. I have no problem showing up. >> All right. On to item O. Ajournment. >> So move. >> Who wants to be first? >> All right. Mrs. Dberger as first, Mr. Kersner as second. >> On to roll call. >> Mrs. Gray. >> Hi. >> Mr. Bower. >> Hi. >> Mr. Dunberger. >> Hi. >> And Mr. >> Hi. >> Motion passes. It is 12:37 and we are journeying.