001hey start things off tonight with a report from the President of the Board I want to start by just taking a moment of silent reflection in honor of the victims in our own community and victims in Las Vegas of the recent shootings and to honor them and give everybody some time thank you it's been a difficult week I know for our community in that regard second item I wanted to address actually has to do with the letter that was reported on by the paper over the weekend about the school districts request to the city of Lawrence to waive building permit fees on our bond projects in an effort to be good stewards of our bond dollars we approached the city of Lawrence requesting that the city waive of 50% of the building permit fees to
002be charged for upcoming bond projects from our bond issue that was approved in May 2017 the amount of the waiver requested was $90,000 we made the same request as to our 2013 bond projects which was granted by the city I want to be clear about three things first this was not a request to waive any of the requirements related to city inspections of our construction projects we have been fully involved in working with the city on site and building inspections in September 2015 and we've made no request and have no intention to request any variance to that process our request did not mention this at all and I'm somewhat disappointed that the assumption was made by the media and otherwise without taking time to contact myself or dr. Stubblefield for clarification before that was out
003there in an article and then in an editorial on Sunday second we did fully budget for the permit fees in our eighty seven and a half million dollar bond budget absent the city's approval of our request we would be fully able to pay the total estimated permit fee of a hundred and eighty thousand third this type of request is common in public projects and in the past it was granted I want to point out that the city waives fees and it provides millions of dollars in incentives to corporations and developers and get a case in point being an RA request that's before us tonight which was approved by the City Commission last week and represents a property tax abatement and a sales tax savings of approximately 1.3 million dollars to a private developer the School
004District in making our waiver request was simply seeking to have the same consideration for the district and for local taxpayers in the treatment of this substantial economic investment in our community that is allowed for for businesses and developers moreover if the city were to grant our request those permanent fees that were saved would be put right back into our school upgrade projects thus allowing us to spend more money to directly benefit our students given the city's initial response to our request I today sent a letter to the city manager and the mayor saying that we have decided not to pursue this matter any further we do hope that we can work together on these issues in the future and a more positive spirit of cooperation I wanted to share a couple of events September 26
005I attended the ribbon cutting at the peasley tech for our new automotive education space there it's fantastic very exciting and want to say thank you to our community partners particularly the auto dealers who helped pledge funds and made that space become a reality for our schools in our students this year on October 2nd which was a week ago Monday I attended the kasp fall region one regional meeting had some informative presentations from the Leavenworth School District on their communication strategies which included the fact that they do a student internship program in their communications department and they have a student-run district podcast that they are producing this year which was a really neat project to hear about we also heard from Basel in wood on development of their CTE building and program they built a new
006CTE building and had visited our building and caps the caps program in Blue Valley is as models of how how to make that work and we also had an extensive update from ksb staff on the ganon decision which was released that afternoon and so heard their analysis of what the court what the court ordered i also this past friday attended a kansas open meetings and kansas open records act training that was given by the Kansas attorney general's office and Topeka it was a lot of great information on general not just specific to school districts but just in general on compliance with open meetings and open open records requirements under the state statute and they have slides from that presentation that are publicly available if any board members are interested I would be glad to forward
007you the link to those slides just let me know and that is all I have so we'll move on to the report of the superintendent of schools good evening thank you to staff students and parents and community members who completed the surveys and/or attended a focus group or public forum last week as part of the superintendent search the search firm completed all of the input compat will compile all of the input for sharing with the board on a special meeting on Thursday October 19th we encourage families to walk to school together on Wednesday all of our walk walk to school day activities were rescheduled for Wednesday due to weather last week and speaking of walking to school the Laurens safe routes to school recently was awarded a three hundred and ninety four thousand dollar transportation
008alternative grant and the city would match that with ninety eight thousand dollars ninety eight thousand five hundred dollars and the plan is to make more sidewalk improvements and to have more flashing beacons at crosswalks where there is no crossing guards so congratulations to the Laurens safe routes to school the district is fortunate to be partnering with Boys and Girls Club of Lawrence which has received one of the 40 Kansas leadership center leadership transformation grants the grant provides 40 slots 20 the district will receive 20 and the Boys and Girls Club will receive 20 at a value of $25,000 to attend the KLC core leadership training programs in 2018 we also have formalized memorandum of understanding for our partnership with the Midwest and Plains equity assistance center this agreement outlines goals objectives and deliverables related to
009receiving their guidance assistance and resources towards accomplishing our equity goals I want to alert the public to a major road closure north of the former Wakarusa Valley School East 100 road will be closed for construction for the next three to four weeks weather permitting there is a 30 to 50 minute detour from anyone for anyone trying to access Lawrence Virtual School I appreciate LVS staff being flexible and creative in planning I'll turn locations were face-to-face meetings with students and Families for the next month or so this is just a reminder there is no school Friday for all students pre-k through 12th grade due to elementary teacher planned a middle school and high school professional development and recording and reporting of student progress in middle school and high school classified staff district professional development day middle
010middle and high school parent-teacher conferences are next week please follow up with your school to see the exact schedule and next week the board will have lunch at 1:00 at noon thank you thank you dr. Stubblefield okay next item is page and commentary we don't have any this evening okay we'll move on to board commentary Vanessa yeah I just wanted to report that and the board policy committee met today that is comprised of myself Shannon Kimball and Dave Cunningham we talked a little bit about the MoU with the city regarding safe routes to school so that was in the City Attorney's Office for a while it's been kind of locked back to our committee and we plan to discuss that and send recommendations back to them so it that is still in process and then
011we also talked about the lgbtq+ guidance document that has run through a number of committees lately and that will hear about later tonight so I just want to update you about that Thank You Vanessa Rick sure so Shannon asked essentially - sure some of the things that we do that you know are outside this meeting so between this meeting last I was really pleased to be able to go to two school lunches at Pinckney and South middle school I had not gotten a chance to see Pinckney before the remodel and it is almost unrecognizable and I hadn't met the principal there either yet so it was good to meet her as well was the principle itself the kids there were really enthusiastic about you know the kind of things they've been assigned to do I
012also visited with the Lawrence high school site Council to share with them some information and data about why we're at least thinking about talking about changing school start times moving them back so I did I did sure that those data as well as some new information that just came out by the RAND Corporation that suggested if we moved high school and middle school times back to 8:30 we could save or add eighty three billion dollars to the economy over a period of to ten years and that's primarily due to increased academic performance and graduation rates that are associated with actually getting adequate sleep so that was it was my week Thank You Marcel yeah I'm gonna report on the facility committee which it could pose composed of myself Shannon Kimball I'm Kyle Hayden and Tony
013Barron and we met last Thursday and we received an or date on the bonding implementation it's all all the design teams have formulated and they're they're getting ready to start essentially early schematic design I'm getting all the committee's you know together and having those initial meetings part of that will consist of doing some sustainability and walnuts aspects they're gonna have a workshop on that and the mmm not this coming week but the week after and to kind of get that rolling making sure that that's a component of this process and also thinking forward how does that integrate we're long-term as we think down the road when we want to actually develop a more holistic program for the district as a whole the facilities and operations is also the new site that mm design process is
014proceeding as well we have I think targeted occupancy of the warehouse June 1st at this point and the office then would be July 1st though that's tentative at this point schedules can change but so far that's proceeding well that's basically all I have for that unless you wouldn't have anything I think you covered it all so thank you very much yeah you want me to go ahead and talk about there's one other thing I was gonna had recently the probably are familiar with the Heartland Institute a conservative think-tank out of Chicago in the last month they sent out 250,000 copies of a booklet and DVD to teachers across the u.s. essentially trying to question the science underlying climate change it was fairly slick product um pretty good piece of propaganda for those that aren't familiar
015with climate change I could see how that might lead them to question it it's a essentially creating the sense of false equivalency and debate among scientists that don't actually exist and so it's you know it's just important that we are wearing you know I'm not too worried about our district but there are other places or not in the state and around the country where the political climate is such that certain teachers may feel pressured to at least avoid teaching that and so this type of material just adds to that pressure so it's important for us to speak out and when we see that and so I actually I wrote an op-ed piece for the Kansas City Star on it for anybody that's interested and wants to take a look at it and I did read
016it and it was a great piece and thank you for thank you for sharing about that it was great to have a very thoughtful understanding of exactly what the terms of that non debate really are so I appreciate that um other board members have well I had the opportunity my first fringe benefit meeting it was on September 27th basically went over what it entails and was reported that the online enrollment that they did went well and almost so smooth it was it seemed too easy a lot of the staff was like is that oh we have to do and then they talked about the labs that come to two different sites whether we need more or less in just some different alternatives as you can to do such as Skype sessions or phone calls and
017just making sure that employees are aware of the fringe benefit advocate peg and make a short staff know that she's available to be used and ask questions great thank you for sharing awesome all right um obviously we have lots of committed board members who do a lot of things outside of the Monday night meetings and so I'm really glad that we can share a little bit about what what we're all involved in what we're doing so okay we'll move on to the consent agenda consent agenda items are those that are considered routine and are adopted by one motion unless any board member or the superintendent request that an item be removed the item or items removed are voted on separately and I this evening I'm going to ask that we removed I'm number one the
018neighborhood revitalization area request for 815 Vermont we're in a place and we would place that on the agenda immediately before the reports as an atom of new business the seeming for discussion so with that item removed we have some retirements to recognize so we have several retirements recognized tonight many of which are early retirements and so I would like to thank the following people for their many years of service to our public school systems Len a Lego Leslie Ballard Janet Bates Victoria Beals Kay Becker Joyce Belle Janice Fullerton Marsha Hershiser Michelle Jacobson Margaret Mary like zuga Pamela Mitchell Rhonda Morrison Allison nigh Kathleen Scallon Lee Ellen tool Erin van seal dirk wed linda wedge Martha winds L Shannon Wilson and Anna de Lahey thank you again for your service to our schools thank you very
019much Jessica okay with that I'm trappin to approve the consent agenda as amended I move that we approve the consent agenda as amended second yes yes yes Kimball yes Sandburg yes yes yes okay thank you very much all right so we will move on to our new business item which is the neighborhood revitalization area request for 815 Vermont and let me find the board enclosure dr. Stubblefield it lists you as the the person on the agenda item I understand that we do have staff here from the city this evening and the applicant so I know board members had a number of questions about this would you like to have city staff speak to the request first for a few minutes or would you like to just have them come up and respond to questions and
020Jill it's our representative on the Park Ashley do you want to go first and kind of yeah I just thought I'd say a few things I am the representative and board on the public incentive review committee and just to give you a little background on this project and I'm sure you probably already know from reading the paper this project was initially presented to the City Commission in December 2006 and was sent back with some requests for revision at the same time the public incentive committee was going through revising of their own standards are kind of relooking at how to judge a project and maybe it get a little bit more clear on that they completed that process and the new requirements were also approved by the City Commission after that recently this project was brought
021back through the process after the guidelines were updated the project and I'm sure but well well hold on this but the project did meet all of the current and new criteria that was set in place by both the public and City Committee and the City Commission for that reason it did go through did was to pass I think we all received an email saying why why would the school board support tax abatement for this project and I guess I just felt like I needed to speak to this since I was in the meeting I guess I would say a couple key notes any tax abatement that this this project was awarded a 10-year 75% tax abatement as of right now the land is maybe worth a half a million dollars and improved it was submitted
022under the neighborhood revitalization act which means this is a piece of land that could be improved it adds a density to downtown and it actually adds to our tax base so even though we we are abating 75% of the tax value that's tax value that wouldn't be there if this project had not been approved the estimated tax value and you know I hope I'm not trying to be real exact with these numbers because I don't have the product that information in front of me that was around nine million dollars so so right now the tax base is is the the the land is being taxed as land which is a different tax percentage and it would be improved to a million dollar project at which point we will still receive 25% in improvement in our
023tax base so in that sense it does help the school district because it widens our tax base when it's complete and then also adding density downtown and it also added an affordable housing unit so those were all requirements that were set forth by the new City Commission and it did meet all the guidelines so it was passed so I I don't know that I hope it didn't add more confusion but that was just kind of a recap of what was presented in the meeting okay let's do this I invite brick crumb Kano and Diane starter and from the city to come up and if you would like to add to that or clarify any of that that would be really helpful oh I guess I should say too and I'm sure that people read in
024the paper it did say it was reported in the committee that the top floor is going to be a residence of the project owner but that actually has been taken out of the equation and will not receive any abatements and will not be receive any perks so brick crampy no I'm the city economic development coordinator I'm just going to kind of talk a little bit high level in terms of what an NRA is the NRA is a neighborhood revitalization area act that the state allows communities to use for revitalization projects and it is not - it's not specifically to generate jobs it's to revitalize an area it's to take maybe what is considered unproductive property and turn it into productive use so that's the purpose of an NRA the wave the NRA works is it's
025a rebate program the base taxes or what the taxing jurisdictions are getting on the value that the property currently brings in is shielding from the rebate you still get that the new property owner even after its developed still has to pay that base tax as you can imagine it's relatively small because those are two vacant lots so there's no improvements on them then the NRA is a rebate on the incremental increase in property value due to those improvements so you have your base you have your increment the rebate is only on the increment and as Jill said with this particular request unless you unless your rebating back 100% usually that increase that the taxing jurisdictions are still retaining which the 25% are so significantly higher than what the undeveloped property would generate that economically it
026ends up benefiting everybody who participates in the NRA if the project moves forward the city the state the city the county and the school district each individual get to decide their own participation in this which is why we're on your agenda this evening and the other thing I guess I should really focus in on is this this is on project generated tax revenues the rebates only give it on that particular project only if it generates mmm additional tax revenues so there's no property tax that's being pulled out of other properties there's no revenues being pulled out of other buckets if you will that have been budgeted this is strictly it's called a pay-as-you-go and it is strictly a reimbursement of public improvements that are generated based on the revenues that that property brings young so
027given that it's a little hard economically to kind of to not you know to dispute the numbers because again a vacant property is going to generate hardly anything I believe the total with all the texting to Joyce dictions is 72 hundred dollars a year in property tax and I actually I normally don't break this out I normally do it as an aggregate to all the taxing jurisdictions so just for example I'm going to give you the aggregate and then I'm also going to give you the school districts because I utilized the school districts mill levies to kind of figure out what projected taxes would be so for your one for all the taxing jurisdictions if the property is undeveloped it's about seventy two hundred dollars in taxing revenues that come in and have to be
028split between all our taxing jurisdictions if the property is is developed according to what the applicant has suggested the total tax bill is one hundred fifty 1807 and of that the net new taxing revenues to the taxing jurisdictions are fifty four thousand ninety thousand is rebated back to the applicant for the first year on that 75% and seventy two hundred is retained by the taxing jurisdictions as their base if you look at that over time and you look at these projections over time over the ten-year incentive period that this property would be under the base taxes that this would generate if it wasn't developed is about seventy two thousand if you look at it over a 15-year period because after the incentive period is over then the in the entire amount goes back on the
029tax rolls so basically you're getting a moderate pretty decent return in the short term you get in a really good return in the long term when it when the in are a rebate goes off so over the long term base taxes well let me back up your years one through ten base taxes seventy two hundred versus six hundred nine thousand there the difference is five hundred thirty-eight thousand again we're talking aggregate now over a fifteen year just to kind of give you some idea of what happens after that five year after there the ten-year tax period expires keeping in mind that most property has a much much longer life than fifteen years but just looking five years beyond the incentive period based axis one hundred and seven five hundred incremental tax one point six million
030difference of about one point four eight million so again it's the it's in the long run that the payoff comes in terms of growing the tax base for just the school district and keep in mind we did also pick out the capital outlay mill levy for these projections year one the portion of base tax that the school district normally would get is about 2900 and that new incremental tax as a result of property improvements would be about 25,000 taxes rebated would be about thirty eight thirty three eight thousand thirty three thousand eight hundred so your total tax base is sixty one thousand eight hundred and some dollars if you look at that over time during the incentive period base tax is about twenty nine thousand net new incremental tax is two hundred and eighty two
031thousand eighty three thousand difference about of about two hundred and fifty three thousand during the incentive period five years beyond that your total base tax would be forty-three thousand eight hundred and your net new incremental tax would be six hundred and eighty four thousand six hundred the difference is 640 about six hundred forty one thousand dollars so if the property develops you can see that there's a significant difference in the property tax revenues that each taxing jurisdiction would realize okay I've got a couple of questions for you Bret um in I think the first one is when you're talking about the school districts mill levy and and the portion the portion of it that we we have as compared to sitting in the county do you calculate the abatement on the the 20 Mill statewide
032levy yes because that is subject to the NRA rebate it is okay the only one that now is not subject to an NRA rebate is the capital outlay okay and that's why it was excluded okay because of the new legislation okay and now yeah that was in the the change in the school finance formula this last year right okay all right so second question I have is in this instance where the building will eventually be sold to a number of different owners who applies for the rebate is it is there a single applicant or is it each condo owner has to apply for their own portion of the rebate going forward we will only be able to give the rebate back to the property owner so if a condo has been sold to a particular
033property owner the check would be written to the property owner okay it would be up to the applicant in terms of if he has a mechanism to collect those rebates but as far as the city in the county goes we just they calculate the rebate we issue the check to the property owner so each individual property owner hmm for the condos I think there's going to be 11 or 12 of them will have to submit an application with the exception of the personal residence of the applicant because that is also been that's what Jill mentioned it's been excluded right that has been excluded so if if the applicant chooses to live in one of those condos that condo would not be subject to the rebate okay all right the I think the last question I
034have is based on based on things I've read about this I am not understanding the affordable housing requirement that's a new thing that is part of the policy since I last served on the part and so my understanding of it is that the new policies has a ten percent requirement for projects of four to fifty units and then it's 15 percent if it's more than 50 units that is according to the new policy now in July 11th of this year the City Commission we accepted this this reconsideration of this project at that time they did vote that because this project was submitted before the new policy was in place they would allow the applicant to continue with the same affordable housing unit at the time the applicant first applied there was no requirement for an
035affordable housing unit and he had suggested to this set aside so they had decided at their July 11th a meeting to go ahead and allow that okay it did raise for me a real question about the city's policy which is which came up in the paperwork for this so if they had not granted that exception because this project had fallen before the before the policy was in place and you had a project like this that came and it's you know 12 units one of them's gonna be affordable housing that doesn't meet the city's 10 percent requirement but then if you make them up that it exceeds the requirement for a 50 unit it's a matter of rounding and the probably perk and the City Commission are going to have to decide that I believe with
036this applicant it was one point to write of a unit which if you would usually the traditional rounding you would round down it's going to be really up to the up to perk and the City Commission to those that a policy discussion that's gonna happen because it does make it it does then make it difficult when something like this comes to us and there's conflicting we do get feedback from from constituents saying you know this this didn't follow the policy from their perspective of the city and I'm not saying that that's the case based on what you said but there's that perception and then you know we're asked to vote on this and there's the perception that we're being asked to vote on something that didn't follow the policy in the first place so that
037that's kind of is a difficult place to be so it would be nice if the policy could explicitly address that so there are plans for the the policy to be tweaked took okay at the time that was not something that I know it's a new that we didn't realize that rounding was going to be such an issue okay all right um other board members questions okay No okay great just I think it's just a comment not a question and just this is I mean you kind of alluded to it the position that we get put in as a board and it's not even just for this particular issue it's just in general when we're asked to to vote on these and we're not involved in any of the you know we do have a representative
038on the perc that does help but in general we're not we don't have the level of detail and knowledge that the city in the commissioners and the County Commissioners you can have relative to some of the you know the aspects and the nuances to this we get a report they are for the day before and we have to review and make a decision and so I don't know if this is something we want to address in a future joint session and how we can smooth this process out a little bit but it does it's it's awkward awkward and you know the city did ask us for some feedback regarding the plan to collapse the perk with the je d c-- and take and remove the city commissioners from that from perk basically and and so
039one of the pieces of feedback that the district is giving is that you know this is one of the few it's the only one I can think of where we are appointed to sit on a body along with city with County right now City and County Commissioners to work jointly on this sort of thing and removing one of the three bodies of government from that body I think misses an opportunity to have these discussions about how do we make this process work better for all three of the bodies that are involved so it is awkward I you know I had a long conversation with a constituent today asking asking I think he emailed everybody but specifically asking us not to approve this and in the rub for that person was that they just don't believe
040the economic development the but for analysis so I actually that was another question I had is I looked through the materials on this project was that was there a but for analysis on this project but for the incentive it won't go forward basically that was done by a consultant that's National Development Council I don't know if he had a chance to meet Tom Jackson but the city has contracted his services for the last year and also for the next coming year so he does what is called a gap analysis basically identifying the need that needs to be made up and whether it is reasonable or whether it's maybe over compensating so I'm gonna take a look at his spreadsheet and basically give you an idea of his conclusions the internal way to return and that's
041I don't know if you're all familiar with the internal rate of return but that's usually the number that developers are looking at for their bottom line it's that's their go or no-go if if it meets what they need as far as an IRR they go and that's also what the banks look like in terms of also the problem if they're trying to also get investor equity other stock holders into the project they're also looking at that IRR so the IRR is basically critical when it comes to that perspective so what Thomson Ellis says with the NRA and the IRB incentives he is he is estimating an internal rate of return of 7.4 3 percent he says this is very very tight he would normally expect 8 to 10 percent for this type of project so
042in other words yes yes and I happen to know that the applicant is not taking a fee nor most developers will take some kind of a development fee to help pay for their time when it comes to managing and developing the project and how do you put that in the gap would have been even larger I'm ready to make a motion ok I'll move that the Board of Education approved participation in the request by Vermont ll see for the establishment of a neighborhood revitalization area at the same level as the city of Lawrence a 10-year 75% neighborhood revitalization area for the Vermont place project at 800 to 815 Vermont Street Oh second right yes yes yes BC yes venture yes Carmy yes 6:1 okay thank you all right we'll move on to our reports for
043this evening our first report is on learning forward future ready with Jerry Kimball assistant superintendent of leading learning and technology good evening it's going to take a village to give this report but we would like to give you an overview of learning forward future ready as you know it strives to prepare our students for 20 with 21st century skills so that they are ready to live in a global society as with any initiative learning forward future-ready has its technical and adaptive issues that we needed to address this year the technical issues usually are the easiest but if they were not addressed learning forward future ready would not be as successful as it has been so far this year so our IT department rolled out 4000 MacBooks upgraded the Wi-Fi in both high schools and I
044have to thank you very much for that that has made a huge difference for us equip the classes with Apple TVs and we continue to offer 400 Khajiit hotspots to check out at our two high schools and four Middle School's I also want to commend you on that you are really blazing the trail with digital equity it's something that is going to face school districts not only nationally but globally with more curriculum coming online this is an area that's going to be a very hot topic and you are well ahead of the curve and I thank you for that we've had several opportunities to tell our story and I'm so proud to be able to tell what we're doing for students here and district so tonight basically you're going to hear from our three directors
045they're gonna let you know what's happening at the elementary middle in high school you're also going to hear from Ellen will it's it's going to talk about the actual rollout kirsten Wondra is going to visit with you about our professional development which is a very key to the success of learning forward future ready and finally you commissioned Alltech last fall to look at our rollout at the middle school the iPad initiative and so they're going to give you a report on what they found through their research so we're gonna begin with Ellen the evening I want to just quickly share with you the actual rollout of those 4,000 devices which was a coordinated and collaborative event with both building and district staff Apple's suggested that we set aside two days for each of those buildings
046because we were rolling out approximately fifteen to seventeen hundred devices at each of those to the building administrators the English language arts teachers all work together to determine a process for the students to come out of those classrooms come down and pick up their devices the library media assistants the library specialists my for instructional instructional material resource people in the team back there all were there posed with scanners and ready to go all the devices had tags on them we were able to scan them in very quickly IT was there to be able to support anyone who had any kind of an issue I was fortunate that my friends here from the district admin were there to also volunteer and help us so that the flow continued as I said Apple told us that it
047would take us two days we were able to go but we were able to check out and provide all of their ancillary to those kids about 250 to 280 of them in a matter of 20 minutes which allowed adequate time for the team of IT to go into those classrooms and support them completely we finished both of the buildings within a day yeah yes that's great work Thank You Kirsten Wondra assistant director learning in technology so a little bit about professional development I'll give you kind of the potpourri of the things that we're offering this year obviously we started the year off with our August 11th back-to-school training we had Apple on-site providing a host of amtgard training specific to our high school populations in addition to a lot of other sessions that were provided
048just to go into our normal professional learning thanks to you we were allowed to up staff the learning coach presence at all of the levels and so I know the directors will speak to kind of what it looks like at this first the specific levels that they support we also were able to bring on a technology integration specialist coach at the high school level and a halftime at the elementary level and again they will speak to kind of how they're specifically used but that's helped with a lot of these job embedded components we have our asynchronous platform it previously they always like to rebrand atomic learning is now who knew it and that's a resource that we continue to pay for that staff can go in there and get those right there ready questions answered
049in addition to of course YouTube we have micro credential op offerings bloom board it'll and Microsoft and getting their Google level one two certifications and their Apple certification is one that staff can access but then we've got a lot of staff that are taking the different credentialing that you can do through we've got a lot of PD topics designed to connect the content pedagogy and that rich instructional technology and we have the Vanguard teams that we've connected with Apple that are k12 and they're not just specific to Apple products which is nice they'll speak to the host of things that teachers have a at their readiness they'll talk about Nearpod if they need to to get the kids connected with the content they need additionally we've got the tech integration support specialist Jos Schmeiser who's
050predominantly providing the Wednesday afternoon drop-in sessions so we've got those every Wednesday staff can come in and learn about GE questions they might have with our move away from blackboard and then we are also offering for buildings they can sign up for monthly tech cafes where the team will come and just answer building questions and provide PD on an ongoing basis as buildings deem appropriate hi the potpourri we've got going thank you I'd love to be the bearer of great news and that's what I have tonight every elementary classroom has been outfitted with a complement of Technology devices this year which has allowed us to create a more equitable experience for all of our little ones at every elementary school across the district so thank you very much teachers have and will continue to receive
051professional development on how to better utilize those devices and maximize the learning experience for all of our little ones as we continue to cog our way of that Sam our ladder that's so relevant and important our special education es L art and music classes all have ten devices as well and as of tomorrow our PE teachers will be receiving five iPads in very sturdy boxes for them to use in their classrooms also and lastly we have formally explored seesaw and provided that opportunity at every elementary building in the district and seesaw is an engaging platform for our students and it's an interactive tool for our teachers and our parents and cheers were heard throughout the district when it was announced that it would be provided for every elementary school at every grade level because it
052just further levels that playing field for our students and if you remember last spring when the sunset held kindergarteners came and presented their china-us global project to you seesaw is the platform by which that came to fruition so now we have that exposure for all of our kids everywhere thank you thank you good evening I'm Jennifer bethlo director of middle school supports and we're the lucky ones who are in year two of implementation with our one-to-one iPads and so a couple of harrah's I wanted to share we were really excited when our principals came to us knowing that we had the rollout of the Macs and we only have limited personnel for rollout and they said we want to do it by ourselves we've got this so we were really excited to say okay you
053know your your tech resources might be at the high schools and they did it and there wasn't any issues and they said there's no reason why we can't do it that way again I was at West for example and utilizing a student tech teams which are now embedded in all four Middle School's it was really exciting to see students take a leadership component in the checkout of the devices as well and they take that job very seriously in those leadership roles so that was a positive couple other things we did as Kirsten mentioned modified our approach to the vanguard teams which is a train-the-trainer model and at middle school we knew that we could do a little bit better in terms of utilizing those resources so in conjunction with our apple tree Jeri and Kirsten
054we actually changed that to a one-to-one pushin teacher planning component and that's starting to really gain some speed so rather than teachers come out of the classroom sit and have subs which is an added expense we actually have an apple trainer partnering with our increased learning coach positions and then they are coming into the classroom one-on-one so we've really telling our teachers if you want this service you actually have two extra heads in your classroom helping to plan and it's content specific so instead of asking teachers to just come up with some ideas or see what sticks to their content we're really actually providing a different customer service component and they can actually bring their real life lesson plans to the table for continued discussion so that part's been an exciting feature additionally we also
055are partnering with our Nearpod folks and that's been an added component to another resource for our middle schools and so as far as a realistic component of something that we want to continue to work on is just giving time and teachers opportunities to kind of play around and see how that in beds and their current resources whether that's blackboard Google classroom and so I think at this point in implementation I know you like to hear kind of our realistic stretch goals we're now starting to look at content specific uses and we're looking at just time and opportunities to play but if you walk in our middle schools right now you'd see our use of iPads is probably more of a daily piece we're also maximizing efficiency and how are you utilizing it for testing we
056had one school you do all their fall map testing and they knocked it out in an hour and a half entire school of bandwidth held up it was phenomenal so gone are the days or asking a counselor to push a car and we're just wasting just a lot of time resources and so we're providing a lot of bang for a buck in different resource different ways but our next steps is to just meet the teachers where they are and continue to build capacity with some new tools out there thank you I have to echo what Ellen said about the rollout it was incredible when when I first took this position one of the first things I found out was that you know in one day one day in August after school starts we're gonna roll
057out about 1600 MacBooks at Free State and we're gonna do it also at Lawrence High I thought okay let's do this and and it was I've been trying to think of a single hitch there wasn't there wasn't a hitch by the time it was over iti RC and all the rest of us were already talking about what does this look like for next year like the middle schools rolled out their iPads without much assistance at all and and that's what we we hope to do next year at the high schools Jerry mentioned digital equity and we had we had the pleasure of hosting another district here today who is in one of the seven districts in the redesign project of the state and they came to see some of the things that we're doing and
058Jerry really drove point drove home the point of digital equity and I feel like with the Mac back MacBook rollout we have really taken huge steps to it's digital equity in our in our district every student has the same device supported by Khajiit for students who don't have internet access at home it's it's really been amazing to see and the rollout was was a great start I've never seen so many smiling faces at the beginning of the school year kids were awesome I I would echo what what Darcy and Jen have said about the Apple Vanguard teams we're doing similar things at the high schools it's kind of a grassroots effort of training where the the Apple trainers come in and train individual teachers and also the learning coaches at the high school excuse me
059who can then support teachers after the Apple trainers are no longer with us also I would like to mention Jennifer also mentioned Nearpod it's a great application to to create interactive lessons and PD and other events I've seen it I've seen it used for PD already if some of our administrators using it I think that's incredible great use of it there there are libraries of CCR s aligned lessons vetted with best practice features it's a it's an incredibly easy on-ramp for our teachers to to move into the world of technology integration into into delivering content really happy with it I would also say as Jennifer did one of our challenges is going to be training and getting everybody the amount of time that they need to to really get to get up to speed or
060at least as as fast as they want to be going right now it's been really really fun and engaging for me the result and I saw it as recently as today visiting a classroom I see students more engaged it's just my observation I don't have any data to back it up but I see students engaged I see groups of students working together in common areas in the school I I'm in classrooms and I see them I see the teachers a lot of teachers using using technology in ways that they hadn't before and we're early in the game so I can't wait to see see what the future holds but anyway thank you I know that high schools would express their there thank you to you as well for for your support of this this project
061thank you we have data to show you require display hey now Jana Craig karat amber Rowland and we're with Alltech which is a division of the Center for Research on learning and this Jerry mentioned last year you commissioned us to go out and look be the outside evaluators and look at what's really going on with the iPad doesn't have data for middle school so with that we did go through and we use survey so teacher to internship surveys we had focus groups and then we also had classroom observations and through that some of the overall findings that we had where there was a potential impact for the iPads to truly transform the learning environment so that was a very positive thing that we were seeing we did see a high use of student iPads and
062I know that's a really great thing to report on just because if you have this investment in technology you like kids using it so yes they were really using it a lot there was a high percentage of teacher engagement as Rick mentioned the high school and teachers really get involved and working for students both one-on-one and then also in groups and then there's evidence of the personalized learning component so things like flexible learning environments things that the district is really supporting for personalized learning for students we did see that in the middle school level with the iPads there's also a lot of opportunities for future professional development so we want to jump in just real quick and kind of look at some of the data a little bit this is the survey results first looking
063at the teachers attitudes and the teachers were very positive they are very supportive that technique that technology particularly the iPads can be a teaching and learning tool so what we have here is that 37% said that it was essential to the success for students in their classroom and 52% said they would it's very useful for them only 10% reported that it was optional and no one reported that it was not noting that this is not gonna help in my classroom at all so that was very good one of the things when we started working with the district leadership and building leadership they really wanted to know is this making a difference our teachers having to spend more time on preparation and you know planning your classroom lessons and the bottom line on that which is
064that bottom they're preparing classroom lessons activities and assignments yes they are spending either about the same or more time on that but the payoff is in those top four start items up there that students are collaborating more on projects in class they're completing assignments in class they're practicing content and they're accessing content so those go way up so the trade-off on that is probably an okay that yes it may take a little bit more time but it always does with new curriculum the new resources but the payoff is and the students and their access and being able to do things it's a quick question about that yeah absolutely so is that I don't know how many of these assessments you've done but is that typically an upfront cost in that first year of implementation and
065then it ends up like they have the lesson plans and so they can use them again so we don't expect to see that again for the following years okay yeah thanks and you know teachers are still gonna continue to tweak and make sure our sites and things like that so they are gonna put more time into it but they're more comfortable with the technology so that's going to take a little bit less time than what we might see in the first year of implementation and will you be continuing I'm sorry I don't know like are you continuing to kind of look at this again next year or is your assessment over at the end of this year do we know this part of it is over but we are willing to continue to work with
066the middle schools we have not talked about it formally but that was something and we can I was yeah I mean I do think it's interesting to know if this is significantly impacting workload and if that is continuing to be an concern or a problem or if the workload was significantly impacted that first implementation year and then if it is I mean you know I assume it could potentially a positive impacts in the future but okay thanks I will let you go to the next slide now okay so then looking at this one this is using the iPads to foster student engagement and the things that we're seeing here are things where the the authenticity the collaboration and and cooperative learning pieces and the store choice so choice and voice for students we're seeing that
067happening a lot more so the activities and things that would support student engagement are being done more in the classroom and then specifically the teachers reported that iPads are being used for students completing assignments accessing digital readings for their digital textbook online research and creating or producing products so those are the highest rated ones let me ask them what they use the iPads for and then this leads us into the observation so we like to have the self-report data then we also like to go in there and this is the the most fun part of our job is being in the classroom and really seeing this in action when we're in there we use a momentary time sampling and we're looking yet through the five elements up there on the top the technology used the
068student learning spaces teacher engagement and cognitive activities we look at that every 30 seconds but then as an overview we're also looking at the Samer and personalized learning components and that graph there is the student technology use is there on the left side almost 75% of the time students were observed using technology when we were in those classrooms and then looking at what the students and what the teachers are doing on this one thirty three point sixty nine percent of students were working independently so the iPad was there they were just working on their own on the iPad but then 30 percent so that's you know over six what's that over sixty percent they're they're using their iPads either working independently or working in groups or pairs and this is in contrast to direct instruction
069the teacher lecturing in the classroom so we're seeing the students working and the personalized learning aspects of it more than lecture activities in the classroom and then we're also seeing the teachers facilitating the independent or group health so the teachers aren't just saying here's your device go work the teachers are actually moving around and working with the students one-on-one and offering additional assistance looking at the cognitive activities this is related to blooms so Bloom's taxonomy so that lower level there's the remembering that's kind of just receiving knowledge you see that happening a little bit but all your higher level activities understanding and applying and being able to analyze and evaluate things we see those happening more in the classrooms and the basic memorization of things and that's really where it gets to that depth of
070knowledge and really being able to understand and apply this information we also saw instances I'm creating where kids with creating new products and processes and then final that overview looking at Samer most of the stuff on Samer is still below the line so that's that I'm trying to get teachers to teach above the line for modification and use the technology for things that you couldn't just do with paper and pencil like a substitution area so we're getting there in this first year of implementation this is a really good yeah overview and this is also just a snapshot this is what we saw on the one day that we were in the classroom for that one class period of that one lesson so this is just a snapshot of what we saw it may be different
071on any other day we would visit what point during the year did you do this I'm sorry at what point during the year did you do the observation this was in the spring semester so right after testing we didn't want to see kids just taking tests or the state assessment so after testing so there were a few more projects and things going on but then again you know any few would go throughout the year you see different things happening in the classroom and then the components are personalized learning that we see were the flexible learning environment the increased access to materials they're getting online student voice and choice students communicating and collaborating more often the one down there at the bottom that students tracking and monitoring their own progress that's the one that I probably
072restate this with several different school districts that they're calling it and this is with the Hattie research they're calling it assessment capable students of students who know where they're at and know what they need to do to get to that next point and that's the piece I would say technology can make a big impact that they're keeping their data notebooks and that's that's a really big factor on on student student achievement and has the potential to really increase student achievement so that's the area that I would say we need to work on that piece that and then I I actually get the fun part I get to do the focus groups we have a debate about which is more fun but I get to go in and I got to talk to students parents and
073teachers at all four middle schools for about 30 to 45 minutes some of the parents we went an hour it was awesome but well I'll start with our the teacher focus groups I got the most out of that one the number to one or the number one request was more technology support in house for the initial rollout which you've already heard how that was addressed I think in this last year and then more Java like professional learning which also is a big initiative that's happening so teachers want the opportunity to get together with people who teach the same thing they do and figure out how they're doing it and so that was a big part that I know is being addressed as well so these are just a couple of quotes from the teachers we
074tried to give both sides you know teachers wanting a little bit more support in-house and I think they're getting that now as well as this notion of the students really like and the teachers notice how the students are enjoying their time so then the student focus groups also technical in nature as well that air drop concerns the date the devices have like arbitrary numbers and letters and so the kids never know local students in all four schools and their requests were pretty much technical in nature as well that air drop concerns the date the devices have like arbitrary numbers and letters and so the kids never know who's dropping what and so that was something I think that's been looked at as well as students or the students really want the teachers to be able
075to have the ability to prove videos so what happens is a video a teacher finds it on their machine it works great but then the student would get it and they couldn't access it it would drive them walkers and so that was again something that's being addressed so both sides of the coin but wanted you to see both sides and then the last thing was the parent focus groups the parents also voiced concerns about the filters I know I've talked to Jerry a lot about this if and she said if the parents know the name of the filter we have a we have an issue so yeah securely you all probably know it too if you have children in the district so they just wanted a little bit more access than less but we all
076understand why securely is in place as well so it's a given it to take depending on the parents that you talk to so just the parents also said you know dropping some of those those filters may be helpful but not all parents feel that way but most parents were actually really excited about the iPads and excited to have their kids learning with them understanding that that's what it takes to have really good digital citizens and that we're preparing them for that well we get to do this fun research and the evaluation pieces of it it's more important for us on how it's actually going to get used so we really want this information to go back to the schools and utilize for them for program improvements and to make changes so with that well we
077just definitely appreciate just different voices and and folks coming into our buildings that may be our teachers and stakeholder groups would feel more comfortable just sharing maybe concerns or things that we could do better so the so what factor we've got some excellent data we've shared this already you know teaching and learning meeting with Gerry and myself and Kirsten with all of our principals so they are being provided an electronic copy to go back and share it with their buildings so the examples of who they're sharing it with is their building leadership teams some are choosing to share it with all staff site councils and just be really open about the data but I think there's a lot to celebrate as well because teachers really were taking on a pretty pretty big project in that
078it changed the way that they teach no longer can they do just a lot of direct instructions so that element of control is kind of a scary thing when we're adopting a new electronic device so I'm really impressed with what our teachers gave up and and they're leaning into the data shared about how much time that they have already put in just to really invest in their the the quality of what they're delivering to their students so with that we'd like to focus a little bit on pushing this cognitive levels up so we need to look about that Sam our model we don't want to be sitting in that substitution or augmentation so we don't want it to be the next you know $600 pencil and I know that that was a concern the board
079had in terms of implementation I think there is some cool content creation going on and our teachers are feeling a little bit more comfortable with what that looks like but I also want to give kudos to even the philosophy when it was rolled out I was even credit the board is we didn't adopt one way of doing anything at the mill schools or one platform to use or one way of using one app so teachers felt I think a sense of autonomy in terms of finding resources that can push out digitally that work for them so with that that's been a little bit of a challenge from the professional development level to reach all those teachers at one time so we want to also take on some of the responsibilities as a district to make
080sure that we're giving them those opportunities and like the results that came out just time to play so when we were redesigning some professional development this year for November 10th one of our focuses is just a deeper dive into some of whether it's trauma-informed care or Nearpod or some of the devices that were our resources we're putting out they're not only giving them the tools but giving them time to play and leave with something that they can turn around and implement so we respect quite a bit with the teachers have taken on from a pedagogy side as well as a technological side because they've been having a troubleshoot some pieces as well so thank you it's really great I didn't question just about I don't we had an awful lot of anxiety as a board
081about sufficient keyboards and I guess I'm curious I know we had some in every middle school like just usage and do we have sufficient and when they take their state assessments are they actually using them or not and could you just give me some information Jennifer you're probably the best poised to answer that have just coming outdoors so it's been interesting because we we know we put the money into so many ideas each level and at first they were like hotcakes always wanting to be reserved and now they're just sitting in a lot of our libraries but I'm not gonna sugarcoat anything one of the comments that has come back is well gosh we thought that they'd always be reserved so we stopped trying and so when we pull the analytic or we go and
082run and talk to the librarians even last year they've been sitting there so I think there's some adaptive workarounds because a potential mindset that they're not available or we're also getting over that hurdle of we didn't buy a lot because we don't want to waste some resources so to be completely honest there's a little of both going on I wouldn't say we're a hundred percent there with students really composing a lot with the iPads but I'm really impressed with what they are able to type on so to be honest we have a little of both and it's something we can come back around and ask them but if you check out the literal checkout data they're not being used a whole lot thank you very much for the lgbtq+ advisory group update with David Cunningham
083executive director of human resources and chief legal counsel our agenda list Kevin her Elle conference looks like we have a Jose Canseco and um mark mark Pruett thank you so Jose is gonna give you some background then marks gonna visit and I'm just gonna sit here Thank You Jose Cornejo Cornejo I'm sorry I knew I said that wrong it was a baseball game yes my apologies Jose I'm so sorry Jose Cornejo the district normal facilitator and and I just want to thank you for this time and share with you the work that the lgbtq+ advisor group has worked on since February this year the group members were mark Pruitt Steve Hoffman from free state Monte Westfall from Lawrence virtual high school Christian Ryan from Southwest middle school Howard Dyken from sunflower elementary school Denis Co
084more from the district Julie heat will elementary counselor at sunflower Deb Carrie counselor at Liberty Memorial Central Middle School ARLA Jones a teacher at South middle school Lindsay bucked a teacher at Lawrence high and Vanessa Sandburg and Kevin Darrell Dave Cunningham and myself or the advisory my task was to bring this group together and to look at guidelines to support our LGBTQ q+ students as well as all of our students and Lauren's public schools to create a safe an inclusive environment for our students and we were looking at we asked the committee to look at domains that we could write some guidelines on that would help our administration as well as our teachers and staff in the district address the needs of our students in Laurens public schools from kindergarten all the way through grade
08512 and with that the the advisor group looked at resources from across the country we leaned on Minnesota school district that adds some guidelines in place we looked at Gleason we looked at Tazz I mean not Towson but Topeka School District Lambda Legal as well as some of the P flag national organizations on advice on how we can support our students and create safe environments so that our students can learn in environments and and and feel safe at any of our buildings in the district and so marks gonna go over these domains with you and what went into some of the domains and possibly some of the conversations that we we had as a group so in terms of process we began with people sharing a lot of research so we entered into the conversation
086with a basic understanding of current research that was out there and quickly determined that we didn't need to reinvent the wheel that there were some resources available and we tweaked them to fit Laurens public schools so as Jose said we leaned heavily on the Minneapolis district for the template that you see before you encompassing many of those areas so the topics were already sort of fairly constructed with minimal edits the USD four nine seven expectations we spent quite a bit of time determining there are a number of issues that are very complicated and you know it is still a work in progress this document is pretty self-explanatory and pretty straightforward the basis for this guidance restin already adopted board policy around harassment and discrimination so this really we're not creating any new policies this is
087guidance based on policies that are already adopted so in terms of safety and bullying making sure that we address in a consistent manner any bullying or harassment that takes place on the basis of and the list is their offensive language based on non gender identity gender expression stereotypes will be addressed consistently and equitably as all other types of discrimination names and pronouns is a challenge for a number of teachers you know I know personally sometimes I'm concentrating so hard to get it right I make myself get it wrong and so it's it's it's an ongoing journey what's really crucial is teachers making that effort with the expectation clearly articulated whether you agree or not personally this is the students name this is the students gender respected the other challenge is working with substitute teachers and
088we spent a lot of discussion around skyward and and names and how do we prepare that I know at least at Lawrence high we set the expectation that teachers need to create those rosters so that they can add the names and make sure the names are there and so that's one workaround that we've them implemented and I know other schools are doing similar things or they've they've worked around so that we can identify the students in those classrooms with their name and not a dead name pulled from skyward locker rooms bathroom facilities this again is challenging and I know we've been provide facilities for students this sort of codifies the expectation that those facilities need to be provided and there's a wide variety each student reacts differently in a situation so finding a space where
089a student feels safe and comfortable most students are not really comfortable in a locker room period so take that exponentially for somebody who is dealing with lots of other issues regarding gender identity or gender nonconformity and it heightens the need to provide those safe spaces for students to change and participate in activities on the back side gender segregated activities we've we've taken some kind of high profile steps to make sure that activities at the high school level don't come with those tags of male or female and so that this just again provides guidance and leaning on Keysha for case or regulated activities they already have some pretty elaborate guidelines how to make that work and then resources we know that this is a population that is at high risk and so we need to make
090sure that we provide support for mental health needs and support as as you know they navigate a very difficult and challenging time in any student's life and are there any questions I'm gonna add to that really quick mark I Jose gave me brochures to bring created by this task force and I left them at home so I apologize and I will make sure that I will get them to you it's a trifold brochure that basically has some resources that counselors can have in their offices the Welcome and enrollment center will have it in order to just provide you know this kind of language and the awareness that we are working hard to support all of our students that one right there it looks it looks like this Shannon got hers on her own it didn't
091rely on me I happen to stick it in my handbag these are available in the schools and we also discussed today having them available in the Roman Center you know I also wanted to you know a lot of the time that we spent in the task force meetings we're kind of talking about how to use our current systems which are somewhat archaic in some ways to help manage you know like the inst the instance that Mark talked about in terms of you know a substitute like roll sheet or whatnot because teachers have to modify that because their word is in the system where that works seamlessly that can be challenging but with the move over to power school we think that there'll be a lot more flexibility to have that integrate in a way that
092allows that to be easier and which will certainly be helpful and then you know I appreciate you going through that I want to point out that especially in terms of facilities we want to make sure that our trans students are non-binary students and our gender non-conforming students are not made to be the people who feel as though they have to use alternative facilities in the event that someone has a concern about their presence um anti-discrimination truly means that we provide an inclusive environment where people feel comfortable and welcomed and the facilities that they want to be in and I believe that this guidance spells it out very clearly that if someone is uncomfortable with a trans student being in the locker room or the bathroom with them we will provide alternative options for the uncomfortable
093student to use a facility that makes them feel comfortable whether or not that be the nurse's office single stall restroom or some alternative option and I think that that is a really important piece that goes along with these guidelines that ensure we are setting a bar that is very high for what we mean um in terms of creating anti-discrimination like policies in our district and I forgot to mention during the Facilities Committee update that we did confirm that that as they're moving forward that this is something that they're taking account of the middle and secondary schools during designs and architects are already you know trying to search for best practices and they are going to engage them they're engaged in engaging this committee as part yeah we're not at that point yet yeah and I
094hope in addition to the LGBT task force engagement I think it's really important to engage with students in order to make sure that the facilities that we are committing to building actually meet their needs you know I do think that we are moving as a society in a way that gender is going to be less important of a distinction as we go forward just based upon the theoretical research and knowledge of what I've read and and so I think that building structures that codify that binary system that isn't working for a lot of people is not smart and so I think that there are ways we can be adaptive and the way we build in order to just meet the needs of everybody I'd like to acknowledge I did here and people would have high
095school kids um many have reported back at the beginning of school year that over and over in every class they were asked you know what you preferred chrony on that that was really great strides Jessica asked me to say something on her behalf and I wholeheartedly agree although I'm not sure if we actually have are we approving guidelines we don't have a guideline to approve we're just reporting on the committee's well this is this is the committee's we don't have a motion attached to this so let me seek some clarification there was an enclosure this would be something that would go into our GAAP administrative practices or procedures so we'll just ask just ask me to share I'm going to I'm sorry another part I'm very supportive of these guidelines and feel there is an
096urgency for us to approve them and to get them into our buildings so staff and so staff understands the board's expectations and I agree obviously other questions I have one question and this might be for Ana this this working group now that we've reached this point will it continue to me is this going to become of the nature of some of the other committees that we have I mean just based on how things are constantly evolving and providing a space in place to have a group to look at things I would recommend that it continues as a standing task force and whether we expand it to include parents or community members we can talk about that but I think it should continue okay great all right with that I'm motion to approve adding the guidelines
097that were presented tonight into our gap I can't moved oh sorry got it so moved over here and a second I'm very excited all right a voice vote all in favor say aye aye aye okay thank you very much for all of your work yeah and my apologies again Jose forgetting your name wrong that's what happens when I try to ad-lib and I will add before we adjourn he do meet with all of the building administrators and if they're not all here tomorrow we will be able to share this with them and then also to share with them to make sure that they share it with their staff and teachers within the next day or so so we'll see all administrators tomorrow so we'll pass that along to them on paper aye aye thank you
098very much