USD 418 - Regular Board Meeting - October 13, 2025

001[Music] [Applause] [Music] Hey, [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] Hey. [Music] Get that extra long. Okay, we'll call the meeting to order. And if you'll join us for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay, good to see everyone here on this ry day. Um, and welcome. We have some special guests uh from our government class here. So, I told them that we would try to help them as we go through to understand some of what we're we're going through today or their um assignment. So, we have um the agenda. We do want to make one modification and we don't need 9.1. So um when we take a motion for

002that we'll um remove 9.1 which is an executive session for personnel. We need a motion for the agenda and the consent items. I move we approve agenda with that one notation. >> Any other discussion? All in favor say yes. >> Yes. >> Any opposed? We have a no. >> No. >> Oh no. We're good. I was reading that. We're good. Okay. We have to make a change. Okay. That passes 70. Thank you. And there were no comments from the public. So we'll move to gifts um the donations report. >> Yeah, just to note a couple of the of items there um specifically for a couple of our elementaryaries from PTO and uh some generous just again donations each year. Um each month we have the opportunity to showcase these. But I think a lot of

003folks anticipate seeing stuff for um our high school, but I think it's just worth noting how much our elementary PTO's um offer for our kiddos and just some of the learning experiences that that goes towards and some of the fulfillment. So um high school though did have some of our programs directed uh funds towards those and uh pretty cool at the middle school to have a 3D printer um donated us at any kind. So, um, just really and the the flight simulator. So, a lot of cool things going on. Um, and we're just very thankful for the community that we have that wraps around our kids and provides great donations for the unique experiences. So, with uh that we just be seeking approval of the donations as presented. >> Some moved. >> Any discussion? >>

004I just I have just a comment. one is I appreciate all these donations of course, but I'm curious to see um the products of in particular the 3D printer and what our students are going to be doing with the flight simulator. So I that'd be I think helpful to see some of that showcase um their work and their learning um especially as it as maybe that launches them into their pathway leading into high school. Um so those are um interests. I don't know how we would go about seeing some of that, but a note of it. >> That would be exciting to see. I think all in favor of the um donation report say yes. >> Any opposed with no. And again, thank you for the generous um donations and support of all of our

005um teaching and learning >> for our government class out there. Um the what you'll see is do that. Oh, I guess I don't want to skip too far, but we're going to skip because the the consent items are listed here. And so those items when they were approved of the agenda, these items were approved through consent. Those are just for your knowledge. Those are usually routine items that are either presented monthly for the board to review or if it's an annual agreement, for example, the TLC agreement that's in there or just a standard um business item like a new account line for a new program that came up, those get approved at the same time. So, for our government class kiddos, um wanted you to be aware of that. >> Great. Superintendent report. I'm going

006to pull up some information that I wanted to highlight. Can you hear me? Okay. Out there. I have to talk right into it. So, real quick, um I'm going to pull I pulled a a document here together for for you as the board. And this is going to be kind of the initial conversation of an ongoing conversation um that I wanted to make sure that we have dialogue around. But I'm going to intentionally skip down here to to highlight a couple of things um as we as I kind of initially have this conversation with you. So um okay. So, one what I'm going to go over here is is really our cash reserve kind of position and where we're at and then where we're projected to go if we don't make any changes and then

007if we do make kind of a couple of different scenarios play out. But I wanted to first start with just kind of naming why it is that we talk about our cash. Um why that would be something that we talk about. So in the state of Kansas when the way the state funding flows the vast majority of our monies flow from the general fund and the local option budget fund. So that's really our two primary um accounts that flow. But you only and and those those are usually you know around $25 million. So that's where the bulk of your business is going to be made and paid from over the course of the year. The reason that cash accounts, the reason that we would review them, like I'm going to review here, is if your

008cash accounts are going up, then you're that means you're ending year, your spend your expenditures are less than what your uh your legal authority was and you're able to add sub contingency and otherwise. And like districts out there, it's no not dissimilar to McFersonen who has seen it declining enrollment. Sometimes even if you're sometimes even when your account or your expenses stay flat or go up, if your enrollment is declining, then you start to see your cash accounts come down. And so I just wanted to really initiate this conversation and I'll talk through a couple of things that are are how my team is planning and then some of the impacts that we've already seen with um some of the conversations around facilities. So my goal is to is to really just kind of highlight

009that real quick. Um, but I I do want to just show you that over over a a 10-year look back, what I've offered you here is going back to 2015. Um, what you see here is kind of our total cash accounts and where they sat and then what the percentage of the operating uh costs were for that fiscal year. And you can see that um in some cases we were uh below 10% at 9 something 9 something 8 something in 2019. And then in most recent years, we've been able to see healthier um cash reserves sitting in the 15 16 almost 17 range. U certainly uh that's a positive for where we've been and kind of where we're feel like we're we're trending to go. Um the uh this down here is our fund 78.

010My apologies. I did not get that updated, but fund 78 is our only first cooperative. And you can see how those monies have have bubbled up. And then what we've talked about before is as we've seen it uh shifts in the way that uh special education is funded, the burden of that um now shifting over to us. We're now you can visually see those playing out and that's that's a part of this broader concept broader conversation. But all to say the recommended percent of your general cash on hand is is recommended to be at 10 to 15%. So in some cases we've been nar you know below that um narrowly and in some cases we've been perhaps narrowly above that threshold but in in generally speaking as we look back certainly as we look back

011over the last 5 years we've been able to maintain right in that that catch. Okay. So again, I just want to echo what that means is that as your money's blowing that you have to spend out of zero that you we're we've been able to to have our cash kind of remain where it is. So let me talk a little bit about where we're trending in terms of our expenditures um and and show you a couple of of concepts here or a couple of of uh scenarios. So first off, let me just start up here at the top. What I'm going to walk through, it's not to insult anyone's intelligence. I just want to make sure that I hit all of the points that that I need to hit. What I've provided here is really

012three years as we look out for the next two. One would assume, which would not happen, but one of them would assume absolutely no adjustments made, no action from your administrative team, no action by you as a board to try to identify any savings. Just try to keep everything the way that it is. and recognizing that you have a at a minimum an annual increase cost of roughly 3%. The second item, which is what I will talk with you about, is is really what I'm targeting. I think we need to be targeting and this what I've talked with my team about making sure that we target is really identifying 1.75 million in savings. Okay? And then 2.5 would represent a threshold um that I'll talk through here in a little bit where you'd be more

013consistent. So obviously if you were to do nothing, not necessarily obviously, but you'll see that that's a sustainable option and and would put us below a 10ear um or 10ear look back levels you're the 1.75 would put us similar to 2021 school year and keep us right around the midpoint for a 10-year range. And then 20 uh sorry 2.5 would ultimately give you consistent with our most strongest years which have been 21 through about 2024. This speaker I should clarify this microphone speaker over the past decade. Uh so just to give you a kind of a recap of that um we've ranged from as low as 2 million in in those total cash reserves which kept us around 2 9.27 and as high as a little over five and that that was closer to 16

014before ultimately adjusting down this most recent year uh keeping us right at 14.65. So, our our strongest fiscal years as it relates to making as it relates to cash reserves, we were able to maintain that 4 to 5 million um which obviously reflected what I would argue is good fiscal management and investment and stability and consistently maintaining um that cash flow um for good operations. As you've seen and I'll show it here in a moment. We've seen this gradual decline in RSP associates came and presented to us and we know that in a per pupil funded state if the number of pupils goes down there is a direct correlation to what you can expect in your funding. And so um if person is not immune to that um as is the case for basically uh

01595% actually over that uh% of the school districts in Kansas. My understanding, and I'll verify this after the SO66 and everything is published, my understanding is there were fewer than 10 districts in Kansas. So, there's 286 school districts in Kansas. My understanding is fewer than 10 of them saw growth. Um, we would be one who we were not one of those 10. So, with those declines, what does that mean? Well, we've projected this forward and I'm just bringing this to you now. Um to just to number one name it uh we won't be able to continue doing the things that we're doing. Our goal is to to identify and there's some unique conversations that are already occurring where there's some recognition around uh that just from our community and our early early feedback from a

016facility perspective. There seems to we seem to have community that understands that we we probably need a three elementary system and that there's sufficiencies in that. Our community is what I would say dead right on that and you can see that uh with the the needed year but 1.75 would restore us to our lower end. It would keep us in about that 10% range for operating. That's lower on the lower end but still within the range. And ultimately longer term, we would want want to make sure that we uh either came in a little above that or that we were making continuing to set strategic goals to to uh make sure that we were responsive to that. Bottom line, um over the course of this year, uh really 1.75 becomes the target that that we'll

017be bringing that we that my administrative team and and and will ultimately be bringing to you. So we'll be looking for what are the ways that we can identify efficiencies and savings and then how can we make sure that we um are are ultimately preparing for the the remaining fiscal years ahead. Just as a reminder, pause here as a reminder, we know in Kansas that we're funded through the current funding formula for this school year and the 2627 school year. We do not know what that funding will look like in the future. If there's any indication that we're seeing from the federal uh government, um we're it's it's going to be important that we work really hard to identify these areas so that we can be as strong as we can be uh fiscally because

018any any potential storms that may arise in 20 uh be 2728, we're going to want to make sure as a district we can can weather those. All right, let me pause. Really the only other items here are just kind of a graphic layout of that. Let me name what the greatest concern would be. Again, we know we've talked about rising rising cost as it's associated to just special education in general. And that's where your fund 30 becomes such an important um cash reserve to keep an eye on. That's where the vast majority of times is you end up in surplus. That's where districts hold um that's where this district has historically held cash. If and when it's possible, we'll pay some of our assessment using that fund 30. And so it'll have flow up. If

019we were to do nothing over the next 2 years, that account would be drawn down to zero. That's clearly not an option and not anything that any of us would be recommending. So we will be seeking to uh identify those so that we can be closer to still in that half a million to 600,000 go as we finish in 27 and then start to try to grow that back up uh to a healthy balance later. Um ultimately if you were to identify um 2.5 million which is not necessarily out of the question to be clear um you'd be sitting closer you're still going to dip down obviously in the fiscal 26 but as we look towards fiscal 27 we'll be in that position. So um let me pause just as a reminder. So I had

020this question that emerged um recently and and I actually was in conversations with uh multiple superintendents over this past week about this exact conversation. So the question was that was posed to me was did you see that Witchaw public schools uh talked about the the position that they were in and that they were that they had a decrease in enrollment and now their funding uh budget um constraints with that and they're talking about how they're going to work to do that. This is not um uncom what what we're seeing here is the enrollment over uh our recent look back for basically the same amount of time. So 2015 up through the current year and then projected out um for the next uh really for the next 5 years. So, just to be clear, we're pretty

021much dead on. Our count day was 201 was what was projected by RSP and we were sitting headcount was sitting at 2061. So, that was a positive, but we're still down from LA from last year to this year. And that's to be expected because of what the projected enrollment is expected to do. But the reason I bring that up is this curve is not dissimilar to what a tremendous amount of districts in Kansas are seeing. We're seeing slow declines and in some cases where they had expected growth, I'll use an example like uh some of the Witchaw suburban areas where they were expecting 200 students more this year than last year. Those students didn't quote show up. And so now they're in a unique position where they were anticipating 200 more students than what they

022ended up having this count day and now they're trying to make sense of what does that mean? You did the right work by having RSP engage in this study for us and give us the insights that help us to know where we're heading and we're seeing it almost um identical to what was presented. So I'll pause there and help answer any questions uh that you might have. Uh let me name one thing. The reason that I'm bringing this to you in October is there's October 2025. It's important to note because we have time to make sure that we're working deliberately to bring these solutions forward and I and that's what I kind of want to draw your attention to. One final document that I want to show your attention to is this is based on

023so this is operating cost by building. This had been asked um in a previous board meeting and I wanted to showcase it here. What you see here is a couple of things. Um, so you see in each case where what your building maintenance cost was, utilities, office supplies, classroom materials, and then uh salaries for that building. Um, what you don't what what can't be captured in those amounts. And then you have total for each building. Um, what you can't see in those amounts are some of our other items that could otherwise be coded there. things like transportation that's not easily um assigned out to a single building or um probably the biggest one is your total health insurance because it would be laborous to go through and identify where all of that 2.1 million actually

024was dispersed and it would then change or potentially change over the course of the next year. But to give you an idea, you have that that extra benefit of two a little over $2 million would would be in some manner distributed out across there specifically where salaries are at. You can see here that as the facility conversation continues this evening and continues here, it's it's interesting how it's interesting how attuned our community is to what the potential really is and what the needs really are because what they see in the needs for pupils and the like and and the need to move transition from into a three elementary system also directly could equate to roughly the the potential and savings that that is needed to make sure that we remain a healthy district moving forward.

025So, a lot more to come in uh over the course of this year, but I just want to kind of place that on here right um and again doesn't have to be a lot of dialogue. We'll continue to have a lot. So, um just want to make this be the start of kind of the official conversation and then um would welcome conversation as we continue over the next several months. Is that last year's needed? >> Yeah, thank you. This is these are real expenditures for last year. So, thank you. So, they would not reflect any kind of an increase. Um, but you could expect those to have increased. >> Yeah. >> Yes. Great question. And the rationale for that is I wanted to look at exact I wanted to provide something that was tangible. Sure.

026>> And so, yeah. >> Open it up for questions or comments. >> The You mentioned your leadership team, district leadership. Have you presented this information to them and are you starting to talk about possible reductions particularly around the staff area with them? >> Yes. Yeah, we've talked this through uh there. Uh so yes, our district leadership team has has uh engaged in this conversation has and has also engaged early in in some initial discussion on um how to best what might be some areas where we could could help to to address this. Okay. >> And there's some significant ones that'll be coming forward. just there's some options that were explored last year that we could continue to explore. Um but I I think too what it lends itself to is as we have our continue

027the facility discussions it's clear that there's um some amount of intu whether it's intuitive or or just noticed um there's opportunities for efficiency and it seems our community understands that too. in your costs outline of building maintenance and utilities, those two lines for each building. Um, in these community conversations we're having, will will this data be presented at any of those community meetings? Well, I the reason I'm asking is when I look at these costs of maintenance in each of these spaces and then the utility costs, clearly there's some inefficiencies um that I think we need to address. >> Yeah. So, the other thing too is to note for example there um as it relates to building maintenance, these are specific projects that were were tackled last year. So, also those will fluctuate and change

028from year to year. Um but an example there you see um we we talk about it each year but um when you consider the facility conditions and the cost uh for projects for example at the high school that that's a pretty consistent number um annually and so and and the reality is for example that's usually unexpected costs. Those are things that emerge over the course of the year that were not expected. And so the short answer is yes. Our goal is to try to make sure this is under well. Yes is the goal. >> So these aren't being preventative necessarily. >> They would be reflected in both of the Well, I'll use as an example. So preventative is an interesting one. If a water fountain at Lincoln was replaced last year for whatever reason, whether

029there was something that was breaking down or it needed to be replaced, that would be reflected in there. Yes. Other questions? So Shiloh, when we talk about some of these numbers, um just so I can kind of get my head around it, >> like is some of this is there a difference between kind of how we're looking at this for reserves and for cash flow? Um cash on hand. >> Mhm. >> Is that kind of all in here together? >> It is all in here together. Thank you for asking it that way. So one of the things is and that's where I would say is why it's why you have to be cognizant of it is be or why we need to be cognizant of it is you do run into cash flow issues. >>

030You absolutely do. Um in fact we're not in a cash flow uh crunch at this time. But it it doesn't it doesn't take uh too many missteps and then you can be in a cash flow issue and and then you're shuffling funds around to make sure you got payroll. and at the end of the year it all works out but it just um so this is taking the 1.75 is taking into consideration making sure you have the proper cash flow in addition to making sure your reserves are are there >> yes >> and then when we think about >> and that's actually sorry >> go ahead >> well one of the reason though that's why the threshold is is generally recommended at 10 and 15% now to be clear there are districts out there unfortunately

031there are some that may operate less could not advise that here for the reasons already shown um but there are some who have significantly more and so one of the things that I wanted to try to also equip you with is um and there's other ways that also the cash reserves can be looked at so we're looking at it the way that we've looked at it um there's something that I could look at show that it shows well we only have around 10% %. It's, you know, it's just depending on which operating funds you want to take a look at. The important thing is to note, and we'll hear this from lawmakers every spring, and you might even hear from your community, well, things like, well, you're just storing up a ton of cash. That's

032not true. That's not historically been true in McFersonen. What's historically been true is that there's been a recommendation to be between 10 and 15%. Uh, we've been in some of the healthiest uh position cash flow for the last five. Um, and really over the last 10, we've been really close to that 10 to 15 mark. But the idea that there's that this district is doing that is is not accurate. You you have to there's some smaller districts in particular out west where a lot of students move in unexpected. Sometimes it's a 10% bump to their pupil enrollment. Dwayne, it's trying to tell me to stop talking. And I'm fine with that. Uh the uh they'll have 30 kids show up. They'll they high needs and then so all of a sudden they're and so they

033kind of have some volatility in some cases where people will say, "Well, they've got 50%." Well, that's might be true out there and we need to direct anybody that has questions about that to whoever that is out there because it's just not accurate. Mhm. Mhm. And some of the challenges that we uh should be just thinking through is that I think it was 2015 to 2018 when we were in a block grant situation, which means that you know we would get funded for whatever we were for a year and it'd be frozen, right? >> Um cost of living raises still I mean everything's kind of rising and so you're kind of you're kind of debt for years. >> And I actually I I'm kind of I appreciate that you're bringing that up. Let me just

034remind everybody that from 20 roughly from 2019 so pre that final year pre- pandemic whichever one you want to look at until this most recent year we that's a 16% decrease in funding. So that's a 16% decrease in your total students if you go project it out until the other it's right around 18 and a half. So what's also happened and again there are a lot of districts in Kansas that are experiencing that. So if you can imagine the inflationary trends which the funding formula did adjust for some amount of inflation but when you take that along with an 18% decrease in your overall revenue generators i.e. students, pupils. Um there's a lot of districts that just to try to maintain appropriate levels of staff wages and all the things we've been fighting to do

035here in McDerson, they all come with a tremendous amount of constraints and that's and our special education funding has been uh I would say pretty I don't know if volatile will be the right word, but very unpredictable. we've had to as a district kind of infuse a lot of our operating cash into that and we know that we are seeing across the state of Kansas more and more kids with needs >> and so that's also something to keep um in our minds as we consider you know how we're responsible um to kind of think out the next couple years. >> Absolutely. And and the reality of that is and and the reality is the f neither the federal government nor the state level and we've seen that it's not being critical, it's being factual has

036honored the commitment that is in statute for them to honor. And so as that continues to be the case, it is local districts and local district leaders that continue to have to have those tough conversations around, well, we have kids with one needs to serve kids with we have to serve all kids. They're all of our kiddos. How do we make sure we do that? And um that's resulting in in an increase in our local contribution and they'll continue at least in the foreseeable future. So, I like how you said it. It's extremely important for this local board to understand that as we start to look at some of the potential savings and and efficiencies that we can the the good news is, and this is sincerely good news, there are there are a multitude

037of things that we can do to make sure that we can overcome this. So, that's that should be seen as a positive. And I think some of it we again we've already talked about some of it because it's already been identified through our community uh sessions and they'll continue that dialogue. You'll continue it this evening and they will um in the week ahead. So >> can you remind us if we have set aside any funds specifically for safety in capital out way? Yeah. So, uh, great question. Safety and security, uh, we have, uh, previously for really the last two years, uh, meaning last fiscal year and the previous fiscal year, we applied for a grant called the safe and secure schools grant. We in both cases were awarded a grant and they were both roughly

038around 70,000. Um in one of those or most recently, so last year we were by being awarded 70 that means you can spend up to 70 and it's a dollar per dollar match. So really there was still it was really a $35,000 grant. Um and it was actually 68,000 to be completely factual with the number. So it was it wasn't even 70, it was 34 and 34. We used those um and targeted some areas for improvements with some of our door systems and some of our communication systems within our school buildings. Most this last uh legislative session, they did not um infuse any money into the safe and secure schools uh grant. So that that was uh taken off and so consequently we do not have those monies to earmark towards it. But >> we

039could set aside a there's a threshold as I understood it legislatively right that we can move into capital outlay just for security. >> Let me do a little bit of checking into that specific language and I'll see 2 mill is how I read information but that might be something for us as we're planning. >> So I want to clarify um what my understanding is on that and then I want to go back and look. Okay, I'll honor the fact that I could be wrong. >> As a part of their conversation this past spring when they were taking out that provision or taking out the safe and secure schools, one of the other additional items that was discussed by lawmakers was for local communities to actually levy up to 10 mills out of their capital outlay

040with two of those mills. But two of those mills had to be specifically for safety and security improvements, but that did not get signed. That did not make it into law. >> Um, >> yeah, if we could, >> but that it is worth noting that that was actually the second session that some kind of a version of that had had emerged. So, we do keep an eye on that. Um, but I'll let me let me verify the specific bills and I'll send the communication out to you as board members. That's all that I had. Thank you all so much. >> Can you look back really quick um for previous years and see if the the building maintenance at the high school has always been that high or did this one have like extra like the

041boilers stuff like that included in this cost? >> I can do that. Uh not right now, but I can look back and see if I can find the and yes is the answer. I can track that down. >> Okay. Well, thank you for that update and context so that as we continue to strategically plan for the future, we have some of this data. Appreciate that. We can move to 5.1 capital campaign update and donations. >> I'd like to welcome a couple of esteemed colleagues from the capital campaign committee up here, Mr. Carol Swinsson and Dr. Dan Lefty. These guys have worked uh very hard over uh really the last now it's been three years and a half years, two and a half years um to help us to uh to help our students and and

042our community uh to make some improvements out there at the at that athletic site and uh it's uh I'll let them kind of speak to some of the things that they've been able to accomplish. and what they're seeking here. And Carol's got a really impressive story. I don't know how much he'll share yet this evening, but um it's been great for us to kind of have this final component of the Javelin runway um be be a possibility and that is being offered here for approval so that that capital campaign can receive that donation and and have that in place as we start to prepare for spring which is an interesting thing to say in October but uh it'll be here. So with that in mind, Dr. Licky and Mr. Sor. So, first of all, I'd

043like to thank all of you for being willing to serve on the school board. I have a pretty good idea how much work that is because in April of 2022, the school board approved the formation of a capital campaign committee to raise funds to complete enhancements for the new athletic field located north of the high school. Professional guidance for the campaign was sought from Dr. James Dodson and Dr. Steven Gustoson, who provided sound advice throughout the campaign. Harold agreed to coordinate the effort and refused compensation for the countless hours he spent on the campaign. We set an initial goal of raising $1 million. At that time, community approval of a school bond was pending. Wanting the enhancements to fit in the overall plan for the facility, the committee had a site plan developed which you

044have before you. Since 2022, the campaign has funded colored exchange zones on the track, scoreboard, LED field lights, raised grandstand seating for approximately a thousand spectators, a press box sound system with jacks for the marching band and officials at field level. two throw areas for both the shot put and the discus throws and dual direction runways for the pole ball long jump and triple jump. This stage of the campaign has now been completed with a total of 1,18,362 donated and/or pledged. We had 157 total donors as of July 1, 2025. And every entity that pledged has paid their pledge in full. This is unusual as campaigns go and speaks very highly of the McFersonen community. The previously mentioned bond issue did not pass in 2023 and it would have funded restrooms, locker rooms, concession stand,

045ticket booths, a plaza, and additional grandstands. Those improvements are outlined on the third page of your handout. As we visited with prospective campaign donors, the lack of a javelin runway in the original plan was noted and several expressed the desire to pledge or donate specifically toward that area. This summer, an unexpected donor came forward. George Apostle, is that how you say that? Who Carol met as a 13-year-old boy in Patisti, Romania in 1986. Carol was serving as a press officer for the USA national junior track and field team, which is there for a dual meet with the Romanian team. That initial encounter resulted in an exchange of addresses which led Carol and George developing an almost 40-year relationship. Carol's supportive role in George's life and George seeing the track and field with its completed enhancements

046this summer resulted in George and his wife Lana contributing a completely unsolicited $50,000 donation to this project so that Carol's dream of a complete track facility for USD418 might come to fruition. As of today, we have $88,157 in cash and $7,000 in pledges to be paid in 2025 designated toward construction of a javelin runway and a bid from Hutton to build the runway for 93,529. So, the total raised in the initial campaign was 1,18,362. The grand total raised was 1,111,891. So I believe that we're presenting this as a project as a denotion for your acceptance this evening and Carol's willing to answer any questions that you might have. >> So this is fantastic. Um, what a what an amazing story and u I just want to commend all of the the people that have really

047worked so hard uh to see this this happen. That's the picture I was looking for, Shiloh. So like is where where would this go? Is it that kind of red cone like funnel looking thing there? >> Yeah. So, it's worth noting Carol the red area there just off of the parking lot would be the runway itself. The throwing area into which the uh javelin would be going would be into the current soccer field practice field. >> So, the only concrete would be up >> from the tree. >> The rest of it is just stays the way it is. just would be marked out at the time of the track meet. >> Right. >> Just for clarification, too, that's that is the exact location that they Well, this is the same area that they throw. There's

048trees right there. So, clearly the runway isn't uh here, but ordinarily when we are throwing javelin on during track meets, they set the runway up here and they're they're throwing in the same area. >> That's already where it's occurring. We just don't have what we would call the runway, >> right? We don't have an all surface runway right now that they're throwing off of the grass. Um, and if you get wet conditions, >> you've got a mess. Um, and really with the rest of the facility that we have, with the international curves, um, with the exchange zones and everything, um, with the addition of this soccer field, it would be one of, if not the best onampus, high school track and field facility in the state as far as public schools go. Um, it was

049interesting when George, who's actually based in Switzerland, um, was here this summer, got a text message one day and he says, "Are you ready for a visitor tomorrow and we said knew that he was in and out of the country as he's their liaison with the FDA and that type of thing with the pharmaceutical companies he works with." Um, and we said, "Sure, we're going to Texas, you know, the day after, but yeah, I'll come by." So, anyway, he was in Phoenix. He flew into Witchah, drove up, spent the day with us. He had been here several times over the years as um when I first met him, wanting to learn, practice his English. He had a goal of coming to the US to to study at some point. um growing up under a communist

050regime. Um going through the revolution as they came to a democracy um he was able to go ahead and finish medical degree in Romania but he did wanted to come to the US study. Don and I were sitting at home one Sunday after lunch got a phone call Mr. Carol is a George. And George, where you at? One in St. Paul, Minnesota. And he had been admitted to the University of Minnesota. He had applied to four or five different medical schools in the US. Um, matter of fact, as we were preparing to make a downsized at home, I found a stack of letters probably this high from George over the years, including um, ones talking about the overthrow of the communist government and whatever. But anyway, um, he wanted to look around town again, wanted

051to blur. is one of the companies he's worked with was Hospira. No longer Sper now, but so he was aware of the plant and everything. And so as we drove around town, I said, "Forge, we I'd like to take you by and show us our last project and took him over to the school and we walked out onto the track in the field and he looked at it and I said, "You know, there's one thing that we're lacking and that's a allpurpose surgeon runway." And as we're walking back to the car, George says, "Well, what would that cost?" And I said, "Well, around $100,000." And he stopped and he looked at me and he says, "How about if I cover half of that?" I said, "George, you got to be crazy. You really don't have

052any connections here other than just our friendship." And he says, "No, what you done have done for myself and Lana." She was able to also then come over to the US, we sponsored her and uh she got her masters in international business at Minnesota. Um we said, "We want to do this." Says, "We're going to go home next. I'll be going home next week." and I'll make a transfer. Well, we went to Texas to see our daughters over 4th of July and came home, went down by the bank to do some other business. And I said, "Could I have a balance on our account, and in our account was $49,980 that I did not put in." And um but words was serious, real thrilled to do it. And one thing that he did say though

053is I want to have your name on that runway somehow. Um I pulled the committee as we met before. Um we had two students at McFersonen High School that won five state championships in the Javelin in a six-year period. Um, Kenny Barber won three in a row, was the first one to throw over 200 ft. Um, we had a break after Kenny won three and then Pete Talbot won two in a row. He was the first one to throw over 210 and 215 in the state meet. So, I had gone to the committee earlier and I said, you know, if we can get this Javelin runway bill, I want to call it the Barber um Benton or Benton Beats actual name, but the Barber Cow run throwing area. And anyway, the committee said, "But we'll

054go ahead and we can put Swinson on the bottom of it." So anyway, um that would fulfill Fortune Wana's wishes. Um it would give our students, athletes, our coaches, and the the community um a facility that would be second to none. We would be looking at taking out probably two trees down there at that south end of the soccer field that Mr. Bakus doesn't have any problem getting rid of. Um, as he said, he'd like to see him go. Um, any other questions you might have? >> That's a lovely story. Um, I have a couple questions. I don't know that for you cuz I the story is wonderful that and I think that should be somehow captured um beyond, you know, presenting it here because um relationships mean so much. Um, and so thank you

055for your investment in so many people. Yeah. Um, so a couple questions that I have, one mentioning the trees, so is that a cost to the district would be one? >> There's actually there's a volunteer group on that has already said that they would take the two trees out. >> Any other costs then for that we would need to make decisions upon if we were, you know, >> Not expected cost. Uh we did run this obviously we worked with Dwayne early early on have him run by Mr. Cash as the architect to just pose the question is there anything that he would see problematic with that being there and his answer at that time is no. I think it remains no. Um so um obviously there's that site may change in the future, but that

056particular area right there um with the parking and and all of the activity areas adjacent to it, that didn't uh there wasn't any reason he felt that that would be uh impacted by future uh design work. So that would allow us to to move forward with the project um at that location and be using it again as early as this spring. We're hopeful. We also did look at look at the possibility um that he brought forward of an angled line. Um we were out there with Mr. Bakus and others from the coaching staff. This was there for her positioning as due north and south. And uh with the prevailing winds, it gives us an area that's easily going to handle any throw by a Kansas high school kid. State record in Kansas is about 230

057ft and we could probably throw 250 on this area. Because that was my last question was about what the coaching and and Mr. Rock's input into all of this. Sorry. As Dan said, Carol's leadership in this campaign was immeasurable and we would not have completed 100% of our pledges as well as this extra gift if it weren't for Carol. So, I think he is well deserving of our thanks and our appreciation for what he's done. So, I have a couple questions. Um, we have other students and even younger kids that use this practice soccer field. Where are we going to to have those people practice? We're basically displacing them. >> No, no, it will not displace soccer field at all. That's only going to be used as a landing area >> during and during high

058school practice. >> So, the only thing that's permanent is the runway. >> Is the runway. That's correct. Yeah. So we the reason we mocked up the reason that they mocked up the this trajectory here and I can't remember >> Dwayne is that 225 >> 225 I believe. >> Yeah. That just to give an idea for us about where the javelins would be landing. But this is already where we throw javelin. So where the permanent structure would be would be right here. And that's not currently an area that um where it wouldn't impact the soccer field. >> I just want to make sure kids would still be able to use it. I didn't think it was going to be blocked off or >> No, I after serving as athletic director for 10 years myself and know

059what a situation is like in dealing with facilities. There wasn't any way I wanted to take away from a facility that we already had available and know that we needed. >> Thank you. That was one reason also we went to the south end throwing towards the north rather than putting it on the north end and throwing to the south was it would completely disrupt that practice area to the north of the tennis courts that's used by football and soccer and PE and everything else. Are you ready for a motion? I am >> move that we approve the $93,529 donation for the community field capital campaign and authorize that construction for the Javelin runway at the McFersonen High School as presented been with added to that. Thanks to the committee particularly to you appreciate it. >>

060Great job. >> Have a motion. Second. >> Any other discussion? >> Is Putton just someone who gave us a bid or are we saying that they will be the ones that perform this? >> That's what the capital campaign has worked through. We've worked with them throughout that. That was that's a part of >> that's their decision to make is who they >> No, they we already have engaged them. They've been design build from the start on this. So yeah, as soon as you sign the papers, then Hutton gets the okay tomorrow to go ahead and begin construction. >> Yeah, >> that the capital campaign committee's work. Just for clarification, that's just a continuation of of the contracts that have already been um ongoing with this project. >> No, this is a new new contract. >>

061Let me clarify. We I think yes, it's a continuation of our work with Hutton throughout this project and technically it is a new contract for the Javelin runway specifically, which is what he's saying. And what would likely happen being this late into the fall, it'll probably be a situation of the concrete being laid for the runway, the actual surfacing of the runway, which will be similar to what's on the track. Probably would not occur then until in the spring. Concrete has to set for 30 days before they surface it. And then the weather's probably going to be too cool for them to put the surface down. yet this fall. So, it'll probably be surfaced then early next spring, but once it's surfaced, they'll be on it within a week or so. >> So, concrete now,

062>> but put the concrete now >> and then surface it before track >> when the weather is appropriate in the spring. >> So, I just have a really quick. So, are we able to accept this right now but not move forward with going ahead and starting the construction on it? Only saying that because we don't quite know what's happening with long range facility. We don't know where our path going forward is with that. And I would hate to put the cart before the horse. I mean, I'm very appreciative of this and absolutely think we need it. Don't take that >> mixed signals, but I don't think we should go ahead and start construction like tomorrow. I think we have more discussions on the board side that need to happen prior to this being put in

063place >> and that's your prerogative. But you have to realize that we have a design build bid and that's good for 30 days. And so if you don't accept it, >> then we have to go back and they have to bid it again and that price is not going to be the same and we might not have the money again. So, and that's why we we considered the other um layout and we could present that by we have it if you want to look at it because it swings the south side of that runway towards the west towards the street and no trees would be taken out and it it leaves your footprint a little less molested because on the first bond proposal they were going to build the school basically in this parking lot

064and use the existing high school until that one was built. So that's why we debated that. But the coaches like this one, if you look at the the grass that that's our soccer field that's lined out there. But on the west side, Dr. Vincent, can you show them where that that's their spare turf for when it gets torn up? Right there. >> Right there. >> So if we swing it at an angle, it tears up their turf fields. um advert form. >> But yeah, this that the money a bid is only good for 30 days, >> Chelsea. I want to understand um so so help me understand what some of the pause is for you. >> I just want to keep going with our long range facility planning, figure out where we want to go,

065what the future of the district looks like prior to putting more things in our way. we put this in, now we have to construct around it. Whereas right now, we've got kind of a blank slate and can figure it out. And I don't feel like we have to be I don't like the feeling of being pressured into doing something. And that kind of just I just don't like that feeling. What >> I would just like to clarify for the record that the reason that we specifically looked into that area to do it is be and the reason that we worked with the architect the way that we did is because there's no reason to believe right now that a Javelin runway get being installed here wouldn't remain there and be utilized for many years to

066come if if regardless of what is done on the high school site. So that was the purpose of that. I I I know in talking through the conversation, there's been multiple conversations at the facilities around how it might be used, whether it's used as a high school or potential as a middle school, depending on how those options went. None of those in the initial view would be let would be utilizing that that specific triangle area here um and would would be safe essentially to move forward with. So that's just my statement I guess for the board is from I understand where you what you're saying and I'm not saying that that's not something to be concerned about but there's not a concern through conversations with our architect about that >> also if we if we

067don't put the concrete down you know here soon there's no way they're going to be able to use it spring that's going to take the use of it out completely Cuz like we said, it's got to cure for 30 days prior to putting the surface down on it. And if you wait until March to start running concrete, then you're into April. And then again, you're fighting weather and you may be lose another full year of the use of it. and the likelihood that that kind of whole swath over there is going to remain sports regardless of high school, middle school um is very very high. Chilow is what I heard you saying what our architects said. >> We just don't have any plans of going that direction. It sounds like at one time you guys

068did consider that but that has is not been in our purview. >> Correct. >> Okay. So, the other thing is that this money, this $95,000 is specifically earmarked for a javelin runway. It's not like that's going to come into the system if you don't do the runway. That we will refund that money if you don't choose to build the runway. >> What a tremendous gift. Well, I think you know as a a board there's many factors we have to take into consideration in the long scope of our responsibility strategically. Um, and so being mindful of our charge be to be fiscally responsible and also being mindful of the of the contribution and the gift at this point based on the information we have. Um, are we ready to move? >> Good question. Thank you. So

069all in favor um with a yes >> opposed with a no. No six. >> Thank you. Appreciate that. >> Thank you for the to the community. >> Thank you. >> Okay. We doing okay this is a break or do you want five minutes? Five minutes. We're going to take a five minute break. 7:05. Hello. Mr. [Music] important Okay, we will move to 5.2 facility planning update. I'll do this before I turn it over. We're going to talk through a couple of things. They're uh Dwayne and Ashley are going to share um some information around kind of some of the scenarios that have emerged. Uh talk through what the community or the community committee meeting will look like. And then in a little bit we'll have Dustin come up to and talk through kind of potential

070uh bond impacts and capacities and things like that. Does that capture pretty much where we're going? >> So without further ado, thanks for cash. >> All right. I appreciate it. Let me see if I can get this mic worksh. >> So this is a lot of information. We printed it out for you. It it's it you know we're trying to put u some kind of sense to it. Uh but I uh we built a PowerPoint today that maybe it makes it a little more clear so you don't have to look at every line. You can kind of read it. So we're just going to kind of go through that real quickly uh for you. And like Shiloh said, this is the kind of this uh scenarios that we've heard from the community through the first

071two committee meetings we've had. That goes all the way back to what we've observed and what we when we talked to staff uh throughout the district as well, some ideas have come forward. So, the first scenario would be to um you know, and I think you're going to start to see a theme when it relates to elementary schools. And that's what the second page is. Uh the second page kind of kind of if you look at the elementary school concepts, they're all basically the same price. They're real close to being the same price, and they probably could be the exact same price. Uh there's just a little bit of, you know, gray area there exactly how it lands, where it lands, how it you what building which, you know, that gives you some uh u

072variation, but they're very much the same. So most of these scenarios are going to have one of these four options as it relates to elementary schools. What I will point out to you is that there's the utilization rate that I've attached that is a newer piece of information. That is if the buildings were utilized the way they're designed, not the way they're currently designed. So that difference from what you saw from RSP utilization numbers. RSP's utilization and our initial report cards were based on how the buildings are used today. As you can look at that report, you'll see that a lot of those spaces are not used for primary or standalone environments, used for other uses that they've adapted over time because the space was available and they've moved into it. So, if we use

073the buildings as they're designed and and and use them at more efficient rate, that's kind of how you see that utilization rate work. So even going from uh from four to three schools, we're still uh pretty low utilization rate across the buildings if they're used the way they are. Now, of course, if they use them u they use them the way they are still today, that utilization rate jumps up quite a bit. Okay, everybody follow that? Um this concept would u move the middle school to Eisenhower uh within a 60,000t addition. We're working through that. uh a lot of these numbers still through this next week. Uh we gave a program example for a 68 building and a 58 middle school to the middle school principal for her to review and give input on so

074we can really and then we're also working on kind of a concept design just to prove that number. We don't want to say 60,000 without any science behind. So we want to actually do the work, do the homework and say that is an accurate number. It might come down, it might go up a little bit as we go through this process for uh next week, but right now we we targeted somewhere in that range. We think that's what that would be. So if you add that to the 52,000 ft there now, it' be a little over 110,000 ft building as a 6A building. Um the high school, uh this would be the re renovate renew the current high school. And one and somebody asked I think Chelsea asked it at the facility committee meeting what

075does that mean and that what that really means is we're going to build an 80,000 foot academic addition to that building. So 60 to 70,000 ft that will be classroom spaces you know like the really the what is in the hexagon now today. So we spending the bulk of the money in classrooms academic areas of the building. there would be some other additions that would come with that and other parts that would be uh maybe academic adjacent but not purely academic. So I wanted to point that out and that would take that building uh to around 200,000 ft. Basically where it is today a little bit over that and that's because and you're going to notice in one of the options a new high school is 175,000 ft. Why is why are we bigger here

076at this existing high school? It's because when we're purposely building designing a new high school, we can be a lot more efficient and how that square footage is used and the corridors, you know, but when we're adding on to an existing building that's been added on to before, you lose that efficiency and that's why the building balloons a little bit size than what's optimally uh we would design for a building brand new from scratch. Okay? So, you'll see that difference in here as well. Um, so that's option number one uh at at $99 million uh to do that. And that what that does the benefits is it it takes you to a more efficient elementary school usage utilization rate. It uses a building that is in pretty good shape that is underutilized now as a

077middle school uh adjacent to some uh athletic facilities that are there owned by the the city that would be advantageous we believe. And then it it keeps the high school uh for the community, the roundhouse, the performing arts center. I think we figured out today the performing arts center alone at wing would be almost $18 million worth of value to rebuild today. So there's a lot of good value in that to to keep that. Uh scenario number two. Uh again it's one of the uh elementary school the same uh concept as the first one but this would move the current high school move the middle school to the current high school site. Again we'd have to address that building hexagon academic wing is not ideal uh for modern education. So we would again demo that

078hexagon and build a smaller addition that's more right size for a middle school academic wise. But now our building is really oversized for a middle school cuz we have all that extra. We got a 44,000t roundhouse and and a big, you know, a performing arts wing and then the athletic wing that's way bigger than what we really need for a high school. But that's the case. To get the academic classrooms, the core academic uh right sized, we would be oversized um square footwise in that building as a future middle school. Um and then build a new high school on a new site. Oh, this is not quite right. Did I mess this? Oh, no. That's right. Build a new high school. Yep. on a new site that would include a new football, soccer track stadium,

07912 tennis courts, football and soccer practice fields. And assuming that we would keep using baseball, softball at the current site you use today, that would put you at $160 million in that scenario to do all that. >> So, real quick before you keep going for everyone's clarification, the thing we talked about in the facilities meeting was the storm shelters are optional, correct? Those are not required because they're not new builds. >> Yeah. Something we could add >> at the elementary schools. >> Okay. >> At the elementary schools because we would not be putting on a significant enough of addition where the code would require that we build a storm shelter there. We could do uh the elementary schools with no addition really. Uh so the storm shelter would be not required. But in any high

080school or middle school scenario we are talking about they would be significant enough of addition that we would have to provide a storm shelter in those two scenarios. So we're just as equity trying to be equitable. We've added that as an option here but that is something that is not required. >> And then the other thing is on all of these you have site developments. Can you go more into what I mean that's just a blanket number. So what is included in a site development? >> Right. So, at the let's look at the middle school strategy. Um, I have $4.5 million in there. That would be for site preparation, utilities, uh, roads, you know, parking, uh, lighting, all those types of things, and any other additional amenities that might be needed. I know that there's

081a desire to finish the stadium, have some bathrooms and concession stand for people who are going to the stadium. that those kind of dollars would be what would be in a scenario like that. But when you look at a brand new high school, uh it's a lot more. It's 20% of the total construction. And these numbers are, you know, until we that's something we're trying to work on this week is to narrow down what those costs really would be. Um uh be more precise about it anyway instead of just a percentage number. Uh that would be the football, soccer, uh the stadium, the tennis courts, all the parking for high school, the drives. You know, we're talking about a brand new site that has nothing on it that we would have to pull all the

082top soil off, do the contours, build a building pad, uh site utilities, drainage, all those types of things. And that's why that's >> we don't have property. >> Well, you don't have the property. So, it's really hard to price something when I don't even know what the property is that potentially could be. >> Does the purchase of a property is that included? >> That is also part of that. I do have some money in there that would and I again, we don't know what the value of the property would be or how much that would cost, but we we've got some money in there for property if it's reasonably priced. At least at least 80 acres is what we'd like to have for our home. So, more than that would be great. Uh scenario number

083three, it's the same elementary school, but now we're talking about building a new middle school on a new site. Uh so we're 120,000 foot middle school that would be signed and appropriate for modern education on a middle school with site development. Again, um we're probably likely to be in the 50 to 60 acre um range, but we could do it as little as 40 probably. depends where it is and what is adjacent to it. Um so then uh we renovate renew the current high school that is 136,000 136 million which is 106,000. Scenario number four. This is where we start to stretch the buildings a little bit in the education side. So I say it consolidate to two schools but it would still be three elementary school type buildings. And what what I mean by

084that is uh we would try to put most of the prek4 program in the two buildings, but we would utilize one of the other buildings for birth to three program that you don't currently have. You don't have that space. So that building could be used that way. And then also that building could be used to bring all of your district resources uh for consolidation under one roof, that third building. So we wouldn't be walking away from that third building. But it would be, you know, we'd be more like u early childhood program in the district services in that building in that scenario. So I still have a storm shelter, you know, still earn money for a storm shelter, three buildings and and re uh remodeling three buildings in that scenario. Uh moving Eisenhower to a

08558 building in this scenario uh because we'd have a prek4 at the elementary. So we go to 58 at the middle school, bigger addition. Uh more expense there. And that is on that 17 acre site whereas nerve sits today. That would compress that site a little bit. That would be, you know, you're taking a pretty good chunk of that site. A little bit more than what we have at the 5 68, but not tremendously more. Uh and then renovate and renew the current high school. That's $101 million. Uh number five is uh again consolidate to two schools as K5 buildings. And this one we would um move the prek out of the the buildings and move them in with that birth to prek program at like a building with district administration all in one roof

086for um having that that space for professional development and cost savings. moving everybody under one. Uh and then the other two consider you know we've talked about before is move Eisenhower to a 68 and renovate at the current high school for 80 or $98 million almost $100 million. The last scenario was something that was brought up by uh the leadership uh team uh to examine. In this one, we we convert to three schools all prek5 the Eisenhower to uh 58 building. That's supposed to be 68, I believe. No. >> Yeah, but I got it's not right. Something's wrong there. Um and then we renovate and renew the current high school in that that's about 110. I think that was supposed to be uh three schools are prek4 and six is what they want to look

087at. So that's just a tactical. Um so when we start to look at this a grade level options which is kind of maybe more an all cart way to look at it and that's what that second sheet you have is uh this looks at like what all the different options for grade level for elementary uh program would be and then we have the same thing for middle schools and then the two options for high school. So there's you know several ways that we can pack you this. We we think that right now the way to do it is to do it through the scenario uh way. So that way that cuz there's several ways that you know if you do this then you have to do this. If you do this you have to do

088this. So instead of doing it all apart we think the scenario way that we went through is the way to present the committee meeting on next time. Our goal would be through that process, uh, we're also going to put once we have the dollars and the square footage is all kind of honed in here the rest of this week, we will put onto that, we'll run through it as a dollar amount and we'll have them rank the each scenario and then we will do it again with bond impact that Dustin and his team have put together and then have rerank it again. you know, what does it look like as a program piece with the dollars associated and then what it would be an impact per bond and then it again and our goal is

089to hopefully have two to three scenarios that the people most likely favor. Um, and then we would take those to the community meeting two nights later. And I know Shiloh's briefed you on that plan, but uh so that was on Monday night. We're going to do the last committee meeting on Wednesday from 11 o'clock to 1:00. We're going to be at the museum uh in a open forum. Anybody in the community can stop by uh they can look at the two or three final options. There'll be a QR code on each one of them. will be standing there. Ashley and I will be standing there and Aaron and and Anthony uh hopefully some uh district personnel will be there to answer questions and we'll be standing easilles with these scenarios spelled out for them on

090the boards. uh and they can ask questions, they can look at it, they can look at each one of the options and kind of give their verbal input to us, but then we'll also have a QR code on it or they can scan and give input anonymously if they want to so we can get their feedback on which scenarios they like, favorite, dislike, and I'll have all information on those boards. And then that night, we'll do it again. And I believe we're doing it from 4 to 6 that night. Same thing. Uh we'll do that whole process again uh at the same spot. In between lunchtime and that time, we're going to go to the high school and we're going to set up at the high school and let students give their input on the

091scenarios that are most likely favored to give their input. >> Would there be any way on the evening one you could move it from a five to a seven model instead of a four to a six? I know there's lots of people. Actually, I was going to clarify. It's set for five to seven. >> Okay. Yep. >> I just think six would be rushing people that might not be able to make it. >> We talked about several times and Shiloh's on top of it. >> We we actually talked a lot about 4 to 6 for church night, but since it's a come and go, recognizing that people would still have time to come at 5 and be able to make it to church and things that evening. So, from 5 to 7. So then after

092that um process, we'll get the committee's input and then the general public's uh in open community meetings. Uh we would recommend that the district engage with a polling company um that specializes in this type of uh or call polling and online polling. And what that would look like is they would call 400 registered voters. Um they would call and call until they get 400 to answer and take the survey. They're within 5 to 6% of accuracy on what a bond would um turn out to be. And why this works maybe different than what's worked in the past is we would have actual options that they could pick from. In the past, I think you've done some polling, but that was way early in the process without any detail. I think we we think it's stronger

093to have detail of what the plan will look like and something for them to actually react to. That's where you'll get a better uh indication of where the community really sits on the options. Um there's some people who will not get a phone call and they'll be like, "Ah, nobody called me. I didn't get a phone call. I didn't get my chance." So they will also offer an online option so that they can go on and do it online. Uh and we will put that on website and social media so they know where that is and we'll send it with the parents and and staff so they know as well uh where to go to get that information. They don't weight that strongly because it's not scientific. uh the 400 phone calls is very scientific

094and pretty accurate, but they will take that in consideration and report it back to you as well for information for you to understand. So, we'll have the committee, we'll have the community engagement, we'll have the phone call poll, and then the online polling all information giving us some good feedback on the options. And I don't think it's scientific because anybody could essentially go on. Whereas when you're doing a call, you're verifying people's um accuracy about who they say, you know, who you are and are they the voter? >> Correct. >> Yep. Yeah. They get I think they get their information and um Excellence K12 is the company I reached out to that we've had good luck with. Um they somehow get the phone numbers of registered voters. So who to call Can you get us

095or can we get information on that company so that we can really see their >> Yeah. So, >> is that in there? It's >> Yeah, there's a lot in there, my friends. Um, if you'll take a look. Yeah, a little bit unintentionally. Well, all of it is intentionally placed in there, but unintentionally when you see how much is in there. But there was a an example provided for your record >> that shows an example that was used at Baser Lynwood in August of 23 in your um in the online packet. And then the facility planning community info. I provided an overview for you just of of my information along with the proposal. Um, and you can see there the executive summary. Did you say that we're having a separate with the with our teachers for

096insight on that's a separate meeting if they get their input? >> I think it would be valuable. Um I think that the vested voters, people who are impacted directly by uh any plan is important to be heard and to understand that everybody in almost all these scenarios gets something. Every school, every child in the whole district is being uh impacted by one of these scenarios. So I think it's important that they understand what's going on. Um, and we have not picked when that time would be, how we'd exactly do that. But we do think that the online polling uh portion would be something we would definitely encourage parents and teachers to get involved. Are you getting any indication from your meetings of two that you've had an upper dollar people will approve? >> No, we

097didn't we didn't ask and um we didn't want to bring the dollars into it. That's why this next meeting is going to involve the dollars to now that really cuz everybody, you know, has great ideas until they put dollars to it and it kind of really kind of straightens out their thinking a little bit of what they're really would support or not support. So that's what's really important about this next meeting is this first time they get to see the dollar. >> And if we pick a scenario to go with, we don't have to do A to D or A to Z, whatever. We can pick just to do the high school. We can portion this out. Correct. It's not an all or nothing. >> Yeah. When we started this process where this is a

098long range facility plan, not a bond campaign. Um the bond campaign is completely up to you and what that looks like, but we want to look get a plan for the next 10 15 years and what that looks like. So this was phased out over time and the the survey will ask that question too. When will and this may be getting too far down the road. I just wrote down some questions as you're presenting so I'm just putting them out there. Not that I need answers I think at this point or anything but anything up at Eisenhower what the conversation with MRC is and the impact don't need an answer but just something on my radar of how that space is used. Um, and I know it's a collaborative use space with lots of use

099also. So, that's one. And then, um, I'm very curious from our educators on if one of those models is picked where five to eight is in a building, what five and the fifth and sixth grade um, movement looks like between. I'm not asking for answers or anything right now, but those would be pieces that Yeah. how they're separated and how we can care for um their learning and the intentionality of whatever that design if that's a direction we go. So those would be I think important um considerations especially as we continue to unpack um other needs um you know with our students and in their learning. So not asking for a specific answer. I think it's something we were very curious about. Um, you know, how does that work because it's a different model, you

100know, in Eisenhower's an elementary school. So maybe that makes sense. You know, that the 56 is there. Um, so at the leadership uh team, we sat down and asked them that question. How would that look? How would that operate? And there was pros and cons across the board. It's very similar to all the elementary scenarios, right? I suppose here it's considered but there's not a bad or this one will not work or this will work better. Um there is some consideration about you know those the fifth graders and sixth graders are going through a transition and they there was a lot of talk about this would be a smoother transition to middle school uh because they could really be housed in that Eisenhower wing as and kind of have more of a elementary model with

101a touch of the middle school model. So they would have a they wouldn't be in one classroom all day, but maybe it's two teachers or maybe it's three and they would have that they would have more movement, but it would be contained in that area. And then the 78 model would be the addition and so they'd have their own kind of domain too on the same campus. So it' be we talked about different languages to use, you know, u a middle school with a 68 center and a middle school with a 78 center. We talked about an intermediate building and a middle school building, but that starts to get confusing cuz it sounds like two buildings. This would be one building really, two wings of that building. Yeah. So I don't know, Charlotte, have you

102got any other came from that conversation with your leadership? and that echoed it perfectly and I think that's what we're interested to get community feedback and the the the committee feedback on too because the general feel was 56 would be a great way to have just a really an improved model for kids fluctuating and metriculating up through our system um and leveraging Eisenhower which is already kind of geared for bodies that closer to that size with the addition being the way that it was. So, there was a lot of positives to to go in that direction. I just be interested to see what questions emerge and >> from our community. >> I would just want to make sure that we've got a good separation between cuz fifth to 8th grade might not seem like a

103whole lot of years, but it really is as far as maturity. And I want to make sure that we're not mingling those >> too much. That would be my only concern about being by what few parents have talked with us and and our DLT as well that exact almost quote verbat. So that's definitely something that >> and I that's why it it it's why we want to do the homework on that and get that program kind of understanding of how they would run that middle school so that we can kind of really be um thoughtful about how it lays out because there still would be specials even at a 56, right? They would still go to music. They would share that comments. They would share the lunch room. Uh they would share art. They would

104share music most likely. But how does that flow work? Right? So they're not, you know, >> Not necessarily at the same time. And they're not crossing each other uh very often or minimizing that that interaction those spaces. One of the spaces that did give us a little bit of uh thought about that was the media center in the middle of the Eisenhower. now is right size for a middle school. Uh so the middle school kids would come to that pod. The 7/8 would come to that pod to the uh library would be the one place that they would probably interact a little bit more, but they would be going straight there and straight back and they'd be with teachers when they work. >> Yeah. >> So there the the leadership team didn't seem too worried

105about that. But I think that's very important message, Chelsea. I think that's a very important message that we talk about that being a separate zone so they're not mingling with those older kids. Yeah. >> Most middle school versus junior high. >> What's that? >> Middle school versus junior high. >> Yeah. Middle school is the old uh 7th 8th ninth model uh where the ninth graders were in that building. >> Middle school junior. >> Yeah. Junior. >> Yeah. Was that is that what you said? Yeah. Junior high. >> Yep. Yep. Yeah. >> So, your plan next Monday night is present these four scenarios. >> Six scenarios. >> Six. Okay. >> Yeah. Y >> and then are you going to try to encourage them to choose two final ones or >> No, I'm not going to encourage

106any of them and see where it goes. I do think that through the process, you know, of having um their ideas heard of like, well, we heard a new high school. this is what a new high school cost. Uh how do you feel about it now? And then here's what it would cost you every month. How do you feel about it again now? Uh and then do the same thing with the other scenarios. You know, we were a new middle school. We're saving the high school, reusing the high school. This is what it means to the community and how it, you know, I think the one part that we're still working on a lot and Charlotte talked about it earlier. I think it's very important part of this conversation that they understand is that there's

107dollars saved operationally in these scenarios as well. Some way better than others. The first scenario probably the least uh operationally it only really takes one building offline. The other ones could take potentially two to three. So we got a little get a little more but there's more pain to that. Right. the elementary schools now are full, you know, and fuller. Yeah. So, there's a little bit of, you know, angst with that. And how's the community feel about that? Four to two elementary schools, you know, proper elementary schools with the third being a early childhood program of some sort. How do they feel about that? I think that's the information. But yeah, we'll see how it goes. It's going to be interesting. >> In the two Oh, excuse me. the two so far there were two

108board members at each right Laura and Chelsea and Laura and myself that's a limited to 33 so we just have to make sure that not more than three show up some stand out look through the window >> Shiloh's done a good job I feel like of just coordinating with us and I mean I think we're responding pretty quickly. Um, >> similar to what we've done, if you'll just let me know you're interested, that would be wonderful. And then I coordinate if for some reason there's more than three that I want to go. >> I'd like to go next Wednesday night. >> Is there one next Wednesday night? >> Okay. Wednesday you can actually come and go. So, we'll just want to make sure there's one. Yeah, that's the come and go where the community that's

109for the we're going to push that out and try to make sure we get this. And we should also encourage many >> if you're talking to anyone tell them to come >> please come and just kind of give us your >> and the thing the important part about that is what well that's so they can talk about it while these scenarios are rationed in and being wrestled through. How much time should we as we're talking to folks and they're wondering in a an 11 to one maybe over their lunch and they've got to grab lunch or whatever. Is it 20 minutes, 15, 30 minutes? What's the >> It's it's it's um we do these things a lot. It's interesting. Uh some people will be there for the whole 2X. Some will just come in, breeze

110through, and won't even talk to anybody. They'll leave. Some will hang around and ask some questions cuz they're like, "What where is this at? how does this work? And you know, it's it's a whole spectrum of interactions. And that's why we like to do it this way on the easels um and spread out across the room so that somebody might come over to where I'm standing and they look at me and they're like, and they might walk over to Ashley and like, oh, she's approachable. I'll talk to her and interact with her. And that way it's not one voice. It's not one uh place and they can go where they feel comfortable that interaction that that they want to have. So it's really up to them how they want to do it. Answer questions. >>

111You want you would like to go Monday? >> I have a question. Um the the birth to three the the prices or the amounts or whatever you're speculating here wasn't all of what is needed in terms of the funds and because that's has some. >> Yeah. To be clear, that's just to have the space available for and we always want to be a little bit clear because birth to three means something different in special education than it does when we say it. When we're talking about it in this regard, what we're talking about is there's been a tremendous amount of conversations across our community about the need for daycare and the lack of facilities and lack of availability for it. So the some of these solutions where we're saying birth to three is we're saying

112that would would create a facility that could house that and to be clear that is all that it's saying. So there would either be some amount of leasing partnerships within the community other things to to the point that I think the point that you're want to get to which is there if some amount of other financing for operations of that would have to be But a leasing per an example of a lease could be there's examples of that state certainly >> but also as a board we could um explore you know look at other school models and really vet that out. Um I know those are lean machines and sometimes they're actually an investment by the board. Um so but I I do think that is um we're in the we're in the kid business.

113I mean we we do kids >> and the I think the point I would just make is in some of these scenarios that becomes an option and in some of the scenarios it could still become an option but it's not within the 418 facilities. So where where you know then you get into a different question >> those are different kind of conversations. Yeah. >> But we have there is one in this community not this community this county has been done uh with tax credits primarily. Yeah, Solomon has an incredible model just when I was looking. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> The old they used their old school really shut down by >> Yeah. >> you know, Smoky Valley. >> I love it when our systems come together and solve multiple challenges. >> Um, always exciting,

114I think, for our community, too. Um, so >> we do need a motion on the survey. That's been a part of that. Just Do you want to unplug there? Are you done? Nope. Seems back up. Good work. Yeah, thank you. >> A motion would be needed to authorize Insight Design Studios and Excellence K12 to conduct a community survey uh that was described there. Just for your knowledge, it be not to exceed that amount. They would charge half of that percentage would be charged up front and then at the completion of the the study. It's an investment in making sure we get the best data that you can for across our community to make sure we're informed or you're informed as we finalize this process. >> Yeah. Can I just a clarification on that is it

115would be with excellence K12 not with inside the design studio. It would you would contract with them. But we would not be a part of that contract, but we would be assisting working with them to make sure we get the language right and the questions and they got the information, but the contract would be directly with them, not through us. >> So, does that mean just to clarify, your company has already vetted several different firms that does this? I mean, >> this this is the one that we work with because they we know that we get good results with them. There's not a lot of companies out here to do this. There's a lot of companies that think they know how to do this, politically pulling companies and stuff, but they don't understand the educational

116market. That's where excellent K12 really excels here. There's not really a I wouldn't call up here service here in this part of the country. >> So, question. So, it's $25,000 for them to call 400 people. >> Yep. >> And then do online polling as well. but they're not going to use the online polling because you just said it's not really valid information. So, are they actually going to utilize that information or >> they're going to be tossed out? I want people to know that >> don't give it to us, Chelsea, but >> like we'll see it. >> Yeah, >> we'll see. But it be it'll be um uh >> separ seg like it'll be separated out. Here's your here's your we know these are the voters that we called, right? And here's online responses that

117have less shies about who actually was filling them out. They're still important like for >> I want people to know like their voice is going to matter even on the online one even if they didn't get the phone call. You just want to make sure that message is relayed that take the survey. Yeah. Take the survey. >> Yeah. >> Because you're going to act on the information, all the information. Correct. So I think that's very valid information to have for sure. >> How do they in Maybe they can't. Um, the question is, how do they know someone they've called and someone who has taken it online is not double dipping in our data? >> I don't think they do know that. I don't think they could know that. Yeah. >> Question to the validity of

118the information we're >> Well, one is a randomized survey of registered voters, which gives us the most close information like because they select a certain number based on the population based on the number of registered like >> for I think that he told me and I'm channeling him a little bit right now um it's for the person who owns this company is a former educator which helps as well administrator um I think he said they would call 600 or more it's harder to get in a community size to get the 600 answer uh but that's like a 1% % or 2% variation on accuracy. Uh if they we wanted to spend more that you could get that kind of level of accuracy if they spend I that's where I'm getting a little deep waters here.

119Can't remember how much she said if you even told me to be honest with you. We can get that information for sure >> that I mean when we're thinking about an investment really hearing our community and 400 is only 10% of our total voters that came out. Are we getting a good Those are the questions I have is how valid is it that it's random? And two, is 400 enough to give us a true picture of what our community is saying? >> Statistically, my understanding is their position would be yes. Uh that 400 would be 400 actual phone surveys would be >> yes. Statistically, >> I think you said 5 to 6%. >> 5.6% 6% that I pulled from from theirs give or take. So I think if you were to >> um I I

120think a lot on that to me without knowing the the cost. The challenge with it is I think you're going to want to make sure that you're proceeding with this would be this would be our recommendation. Is that correct? you've not historically had. >> I think this is I think this and it's, you know, is with technology, it's harder to get people on the phones, right? Um, you know, I asked him that question. I said, I've got call screening on my phone turned on cuz I get a lot of solicitation calls. And he goes, "Most people don't." He goes, "We get the calls. We get we we get a hold of people. It just takes a long time to get them." >> Are they leaving me? >> Got call. Yeah. What's that? >> Are they

121leaving messages? >> I do not believe so. I think they only talk if somebody answers the phone. >> Well, do they leave something so that it's identified >> that who called? I think they do have on their their calling call screen who they are. It's not like it's a spam call or it says excellence capable or survey or something. >> I think these are all questions for >> but that's something we could put out there like >> Sure. >> We want your opinions. Please answer if you see this come up. >> Sure. And if we knew what that number like if there's a specific area code if link into a 620 that would be lovely. I don't know how they do this. I just went to their site to see if you could I could

122see some of that. >> It's Union Town again. >> It's Union Town. It's a one I get. >> It is funny where the old used to come from. >> Oh my gosh. to send a motion ready. So, I'm going to rephrase a little bit based on the way Dwayne said, I move that we enter into an agreement with excellence K12 to conduct a community survey not to exceed $25,000 to gather input that will inform facility priorities and potential bond planning. >> Second. Any other discussion? So, we're not going to go ask what it would cost to do more. We're just going to go with that option. I wonder if it could read somehow, Jeff, like if if something came back. I mean, we enter in and say, "Hey, right, uh, excellence K12, we we want

123to move forward with you. How much does it cost?" Um, so cuz I'm with you, Chelsea. I would meet again until after all this would take place. So when are we going to gather that? If this is a trusted process, we've engaged ids to follow their expertise and they've used them. I would trust that process, but obviously ask for these additional if we can. >> I just like the 1% versus the 5 and a half% because we were so close a couple times with votes. Are you asking for a friendly mod amendment to >> How could we do that? I I mean, I would feel good about that. I mean, if it was 7 or $8,000 more and we could get even more accuracy, work hard to pull more of our community. I think that's

124a good investment. >> We have a work session slated for the 27th. >> So, that's like two weeks. >> Two weeks from now. >> Okay. I I think you could let the motion stand and that would here's what I would advise is or or at least offered is motion has been made hasn't yet been seconded but it's been made or actually it's been seconded. Uh I think we would pursue that and we can get some cost analysis on that have some deeper dialogue with that with the excellence K12 on what's what they're seeing in terms of how districts are actually doing it and then we could I'll certainly can provide that in my off week reports but as well if it was something that was needed to be was worthwhile and actionable then we could

125add that on the 27th. I think that's reasonable, but I kind of like what Rebecca's saying that you could just amend the motion to uh put a cap on it and that way you could just move forward if it came in, couldn't you? >> I have no idea what the cap on to you. I >> Yeah, I was say we don't know if it's an extra 10. Could it come in? >> I don't know if you >> take 400 divided or you know 25,000 divided by 400. >> I don't know. I mean, you got to work a little harder to get 600. I realize that, right? Um, >> well, I mean, to be completely honest, this is a service and you're acknowledging that this is a service that you're interested in pursuing. So, normally, like

126in this scenario, we would bring certain things forward, but wouldn't necessarily. So you could actually just if someone wanted to amend the motion, you could just remove the part about the total cost to not not to exceed and then we can evaluate that and make a a fiscally responsible decision. If it was twice as much, then we'd have to 127. >> Yeah. I I think it not to exceed $10,000 additional dollars because you're you're talking in in 200 400 600 >> Tyler I know I'm sorry >> but we're not talking in standard deviations versus sample size and population size and >> if you want to change it to not exceed then you just amend it to say based on that I would just amend my recommendation would be to amend it to say 30 to

127not exceed 35,000 if agreeable I will rephrase my motion to not to exceed 35,000 with understanding there would be these extra services >> thanks Jur second any other discussion. It's good discussion. We're talking about important information to um help us make informed decisions. So, don't take that. >> All in favor say yes. >> Yeah. >> Any opposed with no zero. >> Good conversation. good work and appreciate the presentation and all the um information for us to continue to I'm going to have to digest more and see your big sign. >> I think I think it's important to let everybody know that this is a working document, not a final document. So, it will change. >> Appreciate it. >> You bet you invite Mr. Davy up. Hopefully you won't read me. >> Let's talk through the

128give a financial overview. >> Mr. Good. Good to be here. >> So, so now now the other part to this is maybe it start to the the money conversation, right? in terms of its financial impact and um I would just acknowledge too um um it sounds like there's a would be a meeting or community meeting a week from today. Um we also have some work to do relative to all six scenarios. Um just given the time crunch related to the uh Dwayne's team working on the information and my travel schedule today we didn't get through all six scenarios but I wanted to highlight um really it's just some broad numbers here of different um potential project amounts just to give the board an assessment around uh financial impact and um again we will refine these

129to to align specifically with what the six scenarios um that have been outlined um this evening and make that the board has those and the district has those before the community meetings next week. Um so again, a lot of this information is going to be a little bit of a rinse and repeat. Um uh just you know again financial from a financial plan perspective really kind of two main components that are are very important. obviously valuation trends um and obviously state aid obviously has not been a thing for the district for a number of years and so um just from a reference perspective there are some districts based upon um I guess their wealth um they do get what's called capital improvement state aid uh this district based upon its valuation per pupil does not

130get um state aid and so basically the existing bond payment plus any new bond payment is is really the sole responsibility of taxpayers Right. So, um just as a reminder, we have different funds within our our budget. The bond interest fund is is a fund that's only can only be used for bond repayment. It can't be used to we can't transfer funds up to other other funds or nor can we transfer funds from capital outlay or LLB or general fund into the into the bond fund to pay make pay make bond payments. um valuation again you're very familiar with with this and the impact of the of district patrons I mean you know 10 year average is over 3% um last 10 years the average has been over 3% really your three and 5year average

131is just slightly over 2% so um I would say fairly you know consistent over time uh relative to that and you'll see in our models we've um consistently used a 2% valuation growth assumption in the models And I'll kind of walk you through some of the things relative to um how I would say how we protect the district and taxpayers relative to fluctuations because again we there's c certain things we can control and there's certain things we can't control and obviously what valuation does over time is something that we necessary we don't necessarily control. Um so that's a little overview on the assess valuation state aid. Obviously you're very familiar with the mill history of the district. Obviously very very consistent over time. Um I mean you look back gosh um 15 years right and

132and really we've kind of been in this 49 to 52 range 53 range at the most over that time period. Again I would say school finance as you're familiar with has gone through a lot of changes over that time period as well. I I always make a comment because, you know, you think about um we we we cap revenue capacity within the school finance formula, but we don't cap expenses. So, there's it's it's a little bit of a interesting um interesting way of doing any sort of business. Um but it is what it is and I think managing through that with a very consistent mill, consistent valuation and consistent millies um been very impressive. Um so, a couple of things here. I'll start with the status quo analysis which is again just a little bit

133of a snapshot of of what we know today. Um and um again we have a um really two outstanding bond issues. Actually we have just one now. We made the last payment on the 2013 bonds this se in September. So we have the 2019 bonds which is again really the 2014 voter approved bonds. Um again 2019 was just a refinancing of the 2014 bonds. our B um annual bond payments about $940,000. Uh we get a little bit of motor vehicle revenue um in that fund. Um and motor vehicle revenue is applied to every fund based upon what the mill in that fund is. And so you can see that really the payment that is the responsibility of local taxpayers is right around that $780,000 per year. Um the fund balance um you'll see the fund

134balance is roughly at the end of this past fiscal year is a little over $11 million. Um I I would just acknowledge probably one of the most important funds school districts have not only to manage the bond fund mill but to manage the total district milly and as you can see your fund balance obviously is number one very healthy currently but number two it's if we do nothing it's growing over time. Um, but number three is you're like you're gonna have enough money. You do have enough money to actually prepay your bots, right? So, so as we think about these scenarios and we think about this in conjunction with the um facility plan, we're actually looking at this as a kind of a combination of um new facil new bond election um old bonds get

135paid off as new bonds are being issued. Um and so essentially any sort of new bond issue will just be the any sort of new bonds that voters approve um at an upcoming election if that's the decision of the board. >> Um >> can I just pose a question? Yes. >> That would be an extremely positive thing for >> Great. Yeah. Great. Thanks. Yeah. I mean and I think it's a great messaging thing, right? I think from a budgeting perspective, obviously the board's put the district in put the district in position where you have the capacity. you think about the 2014 bonds as a 20-year bond is this year. You know, you probably have the ability to pay it off seven years, six, seven years early. Um, so again, very positive uh from a from

136a planning perspective. >> So when you say we have the capability or or we are paying it off early. So um as we think about as we think about this as about next budget year. So when we think about 20 that be the 26 27 budget during that budget year we'd be playing for the retirement of those bonds. >> Okay. >> Y good question. Thank you. >> And that would happen before the new bond kicks in >> um from a payment perspective. Yes. So it's a little bit of a a sequencing of when voters approve it to when we issue the bonds to when we budget to when we pay off. >> So I would say quick then within that the you know is if the board is considering community is considering a March um

137potential election um I would say that all that would be accomplished most likely by September of 26. So from a budget perspective, yes, we'll be basically budgeting for the payoff in September, but the first payment on the new bonds would not be until 2027. So old bonds will be completely gone before we make a payment on the new bonds. >> That's significant. >> Yeah, I think it's I think it's a it's a great messaging. Yeah, absolutely. >> So So a couple things here. Um and and and so you know fund balance is important right um I think there's a certain level of fund balance we want to continue to keep in that fund even as we consider a new project and I have some thoughts around kind of the amounts and we in our financial

138plan we actually incorporate those appropriate amounts into fund balance but I also would tell you it's actually you the other way I think about fund balance it's really capacity right so really what this saying is you have capacity within your existing mill within your existing bond fund to layer in new bonds without increasing the millage of developers. Okay. So the very first analysis I thought would be helpful to the board is um really just evaluating what is that mill or well sorry what is that bond amount? So what is the bond amount? And again I'm just using a 30-year financing term. What's the bond amount financed over 30 years that would allow the the the um the existing build to remain the same. Okay. Okay. So, it's $50 million in is the is the bond

139amount. And again, that allows the the district to to maintain the middle level of the 8.475 mill. You'll notice there you'll see the 2019 bonds being retired um in September. You'll see the September, but it's 2026. So then the the next page um again I'm doing some interpolation based upon the information to win something but I will I will get granular for each scenario. The next scenario I want to show is just 80 million. What what would be the impact of a $80 million bond project? And you can see that increase is just slightly over five mills. I believe it's uh 5.65 mills would be the impact of an $80 million bond project. So again, I want to clarify here, right? So we're paying 8.475 mills by by issuing $80 million of bonds. We're extending

140the 8.475 and we're adding to it the 5.65. Okay. And then the same thing um with 100 million. Uh so 100 million is a 17.975 total mills in the bond and interest fund which reflects a mil levy increase of 9.5 mills. And then lastly, I I did run I think it's 160 million may have been the top end of what was being proposed. I don't remember exactly what scenario that was. >> That's a new high school. >> The new high school version. Um so whatever scenario was a new high school version and again I know there there's alakart version of this but I was taking the scenario in its entirety 160 million. Um your total mil would be nearly 30 29 12 ms which is a 21 mil increase. Okay. So, and I would say

141we, you know, we think about things in terms of the, you know, mills and budgeting, but I also want to just, you know, I think it's important as we we correlate that to that what does it cost me as a taxpayer in this district, right? So, the next several pages reflect what the impact would be to taxpayers in this in the school district for those respective millennial increases. and and and and we did this and again there's there's homeowner costs, there's commercial costs and there's there there's acqu $200,000 home, right? That's $218 per year, $1821 per month. So you're really looking at So can I say that that it $9 roughly per $100,000 on a home? >> That's correct. Y for every $100,000 and again I think it's you know think about and we'll provide

142I mean as you get into the you know if you get into something that's more than just a no levy increase right I mean we can provide the calculators so homeowners >> on our on our like a website or some kind of page. >> Y wonderful. I think I think the key part there too is that you know there's always a little bit of confusion around market value versus assessed value. And so we'll just have to do some education to make sure people are putting the right information into the calculator. Um >> and and we can do it both ways. We can actually have an input where people put their home value in, what they think their home's worth, uh, their market value, or we have a calculator. We can direct them to look at

143their tax statement and actually pull the actual assessed valuation off their tax statement, which I believe the county probably does do. Um, do they I'm sure your tax statement, do they include assessed valuation? >> I think that's all we have on there. You can always go to access too, the county website, and pull up your home and it's there, too. >> Okay. So we can I mean what typically what we do is if we use a SAS valuation we actually put an example what a tax statement is and we'll just highlight okay here's the number you need to put into the calculator. Um but yeah to answer your question from a simplicity perspective it's the $910 per month you know per $100,000 of market value. >> That's correct. Does anybody know what uh a school

144levy compared to a total property tax homeowner levy? What is it? A half, third, fourth. >> I do not know that information off the top of my head. I don't want to even speculate. >> Just curious. >> I think the question was as I was >> I need the district and the entire >> the total. Yeah. And and the one thing just to what um you we'll do some some mill comparison information too because there may be some interest in evaluating what's the mill levy comparison from you know one district to the next and particularly if you're looking at you know similar districts who may have done projects in the last 10 years. >> Well you know anytime you raise a levy people are right. So blame it all on the schools not quite fair.

145Um the other element of this I won't spend a whole lot of time on but obviously the um the the assessment ratio for commercial property is and a land property is going to be different than um residential property. And so just there's an example that illustrates what that would look like for commercial properties as well. And again I think we're you know we can we can expand upon this right we're only showing you know commercial properties up to 250,000. Uh but again I think there's a multiplier there for people to evaluate based upon the value of of what their business is. So >> is our u manufacturing uh or like companies are those considered commercial? >> They um yes. So they they would be they would be assessed at the um 25%. >> Correct. So

146again very very high level for tonight but we will get you information on each scenario just so you have that for the meeting. I hope this is helpful. So and I just want to make sure that I'm correct about this and I think if I am correct it's an important awareness for our community. >> Uh when you were talking about you know some communities get I don't want to say subsidy that's not the right but they get state aid. >> Uh McFersonen does not. It's called equalization. Is that correct? It >> it is. I mean, I think there's a there's a fairly complex formula that that determines state aid per school districts. >> So, you could have a community that is um is very affluent, but they don't have hardly any industry or any commercial,

147so they have a lot of rooftops >> and they're going to get some of that um equalization. >> Yeah. Yeah. Whereas McFersonen, because we're so robust in so many ways, like we don't get any of that. And so, so I think it's just helpful sometimes because I know in the last bond we we were compared to this community and to this community, but they had um some different formulas that they were working with. So an $80 million bond was really a $44 million bond for the taxpayer. >> Um for us it is dollar for dollar is correct. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. >> And there's some we have we have a lot of data every single school district. So there may be districts where you know we want to look at you know 10 comparable districts

148and if we can compare assess valuation state aid u mill levies and and so again it's you know every district's unique because you think about what one mill here generates you know $287,000 right I mean there are some districts where it one mill generates more and then often times a lot of cases it generates a lot less >> yeah Yeah, >> you probably don't know either for sure right now how much uh tax abatement our industries have been granted. >> That's a great that is currently out there. It's a good question, Perry. So, so the county, so that the the county should have a schedule of all the industries within the school district boundaries um and the timing of when those abatements end as well as the anticipated valuation that will come back on the

149tax. I will happily clarify this in the future, but I believe that 2017 anything that any abatements that occurred after 2017 wouldn't have abated really any none of it ever. It never abated the 20 mil general. >> Correct. It ne it did pre to 2017 could abate the 8 mills for capital outlay but I don't believe that it does that after 2017 >> after 2017 it does not >> and the same is true after 2017 for lob and bond and interest is my understanding. Yeah, let's um but I want to >> I I know that if I recall correctly, the 2017 did exempt the 8 mills and the and the 20 mills and the in the state mill the one and a half. >> Um >> bond and interest might be different, >> but yeah,

150there still may be some related to bond and interest that's not exempted. >> Yeah, let's I mean I think we should >> Yeah, we can. Yeah, I'd be kind of curious on um obviously there's some big industry. Um you know, I would just say at a high level when we get that information, I think the the first thing we do is we we discount the amount of valuation we think is going to come back on the tax rules because often times the first thing that happens is a is a potential challenge, >> right? So it's it may look great, but we then say, okay, well this is great, but if there's something meaningful, maybe we discount by 50%. But I mean I mean to your point I think it's something worth looking into because if

151if there's been things that have happened here recently in the last 5 years that may be coming on the tax rule that could be meaningful obviously we're going to see it at some point down the road within our assess valuation and we can make some determinations whether we want it factored into the analysis now or not. >> What would be the pros or the cons of doing so? >> Um the good question. Um the pros of including it would probably be more of a accurate reflection of what the anticipated mill levy increase would be once once all valuation comes back on the tax rules. >> Okay. >> Um I would say the cons we want to eliminate the cons which would be assuming that all of it comes back on. So we want to make

152sure that we're we're we're actually discounting what that is. So what but the the message for our uh taxpayers to understand is that once some of these other things occur there's a reasonable p percentage that would decrease this a little bit >> your monthly obligation is that >> correct your mill levy would could be less right so I think maybe by not by not showing it right we're showing maybe a higher mill levy than will actually be required >> okay so then in and when that valuation were to come on we can actually lower the bill right um I think if we if we incorporate into the analysis today, the the mill levy is going to be more reflective of what we anticipate to be over the 30-year period because of those properties coming on

153on the tax roll. Again, the challenge is is if it doesn't come back in the amount that we expect, then the mill will have to be higher. So really the the con of that would be that we would probably want to give our homeowners and our our renters, people that live here, the highest that they're they're likely going to pay. So that >> does that make sense? I know >> that was like a not to like a like, hey, this is our like a worst case scenario. or just consider like this. If these other things that we think are going to come back into this pool do not happen for a variety of reasons, this is the max out of pocket that we project that your family is going to need to to invest. >>

154I think I think it's a good approach. Um I think I think it is worth looking at it and seeing okay what what do the numbers actually look like? Is it a is it a like half a mil or is like 2 mills? If it's a half a mill, I'd say, hey, let's just let's assume higher. If it's like a two ms maybe it's like okay what's the right number? Yeah then I think I think 2 mill is probably pretty on the extreme side. Yeah. >> I love the budget calculator. I think that's a game changer because I there was just a lot of lack of clarity and then people were >> I mean you scare people it scares people when they think about a monthly increase. There's a lot of fear that happens but

155I think that budget calculator will be a game changer for this bond. >> I have I'm actually thinking about this Sher Lson. I I think I have a um I know we'll have some some specific information relative to these scenarios, but also there's some general information we have that really just shows what's the it's a one-page summary of like 1 through 10 mills and what the impact is to properties um within Kansas and that this may be a useful piece of information that somebody may find helpful. >> I don't understand it. I understand 910 per month per $100,000. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. That's what I understand. No, that's yeah, that's what most people do. >> I think that's helpful. I want to just make sure that we it's understood that we aren't in the middle

156of voting on and making decisions on a bond tonight. This is information uh gathering more information as we continue to go through our process. So, we need this information so we can make informed decisions. So, that's um why you're here this evening as we continue through the process. But just so the public um knows where we're at, we're getting the information still want to hear from everyone. Um the community meetings are ongoing and we'll continue to have more information come forward um as we make the next steps whatever those might be. So we appreciate >> that's that's spot on. I would say actually like in the survey work like they the survey people will actually want to know what like the general impact of 5 ms is and 10 ms is and so they will

157actually survey that out which I think is something a useful information for the board and and I also think you know having the the mil impact which I think Dwayne alluded to in front of the the the committees um that are coming up in the next couple weeks may be helpful too. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you much. Okay. >> Need another >> Do folks need another break? >> Always. Another break. Minute break. Okay, we'll take five minute break. >> Okay. [Music] Kentucky. [Music] Oh. [Music] Heat. [Music] Hey, Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Hey. Hey. Hey. [Music] I'm still trying to figure out We'll uh come back in the session. We have 5.3 which is the roundhouse floor update. >> You're ready to come back. >> Thank you so much. Um just really want

158to bring this back and and and seek a motion. Not not a really too much more to discuss except uh just as kind of an outdate. What we'd be requesting as the action is to authorize the detention pond to proceed with the tips procurement process with McPerson quality air. So what this allows us to do is still meet those targets of of the dollar amounts that we've talked about but in the most uh efficient and effective way. So, your action tonight would allow us to uh start working with McFerson quality air um as as early as this week to start the initial um uh wall, I guess I would say, for temporary water control um so that that building could be protected. And then we would continue to coordinate with them over the course of

159obtaining permits and soil samples and and things like that throughout the course of the project. Um, but this would allow us to fully be able to to maneuver using the tips procurement process with them. Uh, as a reminder to the board, no in so this actually would work out. It's what we talked about from a timing perspective. This would this would likely allow um for them to get the temporary wall in place, but or actually even concrete is poured in there depending on how quickly they could get to it. But uh yeah, I'd be happy to answer any questions, but ultimately pretty much update similar to what we had talked about. This would just take formal action to to move through the tips process with McFerson quality air. >> So what was the total bid?

160What is it going to cost for McFerson quality air to do all of this work? >> So we would initiate the process with Bigfoot and Bill Spect. We would meet still those those initial estimates but part of the tip process is we have the quote come back through the estimates come back through then those get independently validated through other testing and then or other testing. We've have so many different conversations uh verification across u the state bids and then that ensures that the that the uh price that we're paying is essentially a market bid. I don't have that today. This your authorization to move in through the pro process is what would allow us to move forward with that. >> Listen, some of your preliminary that Dwayne was talking the 50 to $60,000 range. >>

161That was the original. Yes, the 50 to 60,000 was that original high-end range. We would we would anticipate moving through this process with that being the the total budget still. So all the work that they're going to do, the detention pond expansion and they're fixing the pipes by door 17 and the concrete work and all of that for 50,000. Uh I'd have to go back and look at those over. The question was do we have the estimate now part of the process for tips is that we would their action tonight would say that we were moving forward with that and then we would have those come back through. Is that correct though? >> So what do you want to join us at the table? I might not follow you up here visiting. the tips process

162is a part of I mean directly answer your question the the part of the retention pond and that work uh is going to be evaluated by uh the tips process who keeps M quality oh I don't know if this right word but keeps my quality in check as far as a uh a correct pricing and so that state contracted bid they're going to check their quote against what state contracting prices should be, which will uh result in us getting a a very fair and and good pricing for for what we're doing. >> I understand how that works, but I'm I'm curious to know how much this is going to cost us. Like, do we have an estimate or are we going to get all of this work done for $50,000? That that's what I want

163to know. I I don't think I can give you a good answer other than to say we have to wait and see what happens through the process of getting that number back from that quality. What the original talking about if you did the water tubes versus the popup things like 25,000 maybe for the water tube. >> I think we haven't just to clarify on that. So that was a dip that was a a cost they then got included in that that example I want to say was initially well okay I know the example was 27,000 for the initial temporary and I believe our estimate came in at like 15,000 yes >> um for that uh with McFerson quality. So that's an example of that, but I don't have any additional estimates specifically. Obviously, we bring

164those back to the board as as we continue to update you on this process. But my understanding and I suppose Bill is we need to authorize this plan to move forward with the tips procurement process in order to be able to have additional data to return to this group. >> That's correct. And the burm I'll call it is a part of that pro um process now as well. It's not just the retention bond that he that the the burm and the dirt work to be done is coupled and the plumbing everything that's involved with mitigation >> full scope >> is going to be in that full scope of the pricing we get back as a part of tips. So it's one of you I think one of the questions um might be built if you

165can help us is will work start with this motion or are we just getting the price point or is it both are happening. So yes and both it's so the the the tip starting this process tonight will authorize M quality to go ahead and put the burm in place um and we can have that mitigation in place so that there's no concerns in regard to the concrete or anything we do inside the building that is protected uh with then from there we have to look at the uh permissions or the permits that come in I think I shared earlier there's seven entities at the state level that have to look at this to make sure that we have the correct scope of the project and everything's being done correctly by architecture and our civil engineers.

166Once that's passed, then they can move forward with their work uh after the tips process has gone through as well. But that would all be happening simultaneously. >> So then how does it work? Because we had also requested that inside of the whoever the contractor is, they are assuming liability if water gets into the property. So, do we have a contract signed or anything stating that they are 100% responsible if water gets inside that building? Have we seen anything on that? >> I think at least my understanding of how things would go would be that Maladier would submit a a quote that would have some form of statement as to what they believe their liability responsibility would be. And based on that or based on the fact that the the very reason again correct me

167if I'm wrong here Dr. Benson but the very reason we went to an architect and a civil engineer was to uh get asurances that there would not be any any liability on the school or anything like that. So that in my mind that that would fall to to them. any additional liability I would want to discuss. >> Let me name it this way. My I'm going to assume but then I guess I'll seek clarification. If we're talking about liability when they put the the temporary wall up, my first quality would any anybody that would be doing the work if they installed that wall, they would be assuming liability to some degree. fully actually to make sure that water stayed out of the building once we're once the project's complete in the same manner and that

168all projects when they be signed off on the person doing the work it's been verified and met all of the standards. I don't think that's what you're talking about. Are you saying you >> I just want to make sure we've got like a contract like a signed contract in place that states >> if the burm is in place they are accepting all financial liability if the burm well whatever you want to call it the temporary wall. Yes. >> That if water gets in the building, they are responsible for it, not us. >> I There's no agreement in place right now. But your action to move this forward would would authorize us to engage in that type of agreement. >> And what if they don't agree to that? >> Then we'd come back to you in

169a month and say that we couldn't get in person quality air and we'd be seeking other people. I suppose there could be an addendum too that uh that would I'm asking that the tips process could be pursued through other groups of mount quality or not assume the liability if that was the desire of the board that another company would look at at taking on that responsibility there we could yeah I don't want continue down the road of too many whatifs. But ultimately, if if we were if you were to authorize to if you're able to authorize us to move forward with the TIPS program today, tonight, we would initiate that work with them and we have a local community partner in them that has helped us tremendously. We would anticipate that to still be true.

170If they for some reason weren't, we could still consider the tips process with other groups um moving forward. And do we have to put a cap on the project or because I mean we don't know how much it's going to cost. We're kind of going into it with an unknown. I just want to make sure >> we don't go from 50 to 150 and we don't know that. >> I think there I'm sorry. >> I Chelsea. So I love that. And the other thing I would say is that because of the way that they're vetting this through um the state and all of the like we know we need certain things done and we need them done right. And so I don't feel um like shy about us getting the drainage, the pumps, our doors

171um and the burm and the detention pond done. I mean like we know we need those things. And if I recall right, the original one was really for the detention pond with the idea that we don't know what the pumps need. We don't know what. So, I I would say I feel good with the way that the process comes through. Um, of course, we would be kept in the loop, but I think we are definitely looking at more than $50,000, which was our original. Um, I I don't I don't see how we couldn't be. >> My my point of clarification on it is that you've already approved the detention work. You've already authorized this project to move forward. Um, this is a different way to achieve the project and it's one we're able to work

172with a local partner who's already helped us with the project. Um, and it's the most it's the most effective way and efficient way to move the project forward. Um, from a dollar standpoint, the process itself ensures that we are doing it in the most economical uh manner that also matches state bid expectations. So this is the most uh appropriate way to move forward is our opinion which is why it's our recommendation. Um those costs may come in more than originally estimated. Um I don't know that they may not come in under what was originally estimated. Um but part of the process is ensuring that it's coming in at a competitive approved rate. And so it's going to be at the dollar it's whatever that dollar amount is is going to be at a rate that

173we this community would have expected to leverage pay for um irregardless of who it was conducting the work. Does that make sense? Are you ready for a motion? Okay. would move to authorize the detention pond project to proceed through the tips process with M quality error but with clarification that they are responsible liability for the temporary wall. >> Second. Any other discussion? >> Okay. All in favor say yes. Yes. >> Any opposed? With no set zero. Thank you. >> We appreciate the continual uh work and process um to move us to a place of getting us back online um for all of our district needs. So, thank you Dr. Vincent, Bill, and all. >> Thank you, Bill. What's currently done on demo? electrical and electrical. >> No cement yet. We're >> That's we >> moving

174deadlines. That's always interesting. No, I >> Yeah, I said be prepared for delays. Um, and the reality is we'll have an update for a better update with hopefully more specifics later this week, but um, I don't have them for you tonight. So, electrical. >> Thank you, Bill. >> 6.1 new business. Uh just a just as a reminder to this one, uh mark your calendar, the upcoming KESD convention will be held uh November 14th through the 16th. And what we're going to take action on uh is or what we'd be seeking action on is to name uh Dr. Banner up and Miss Bush as the voting delegates at B 2024 five um delegate assembly. But just as a reminder for you and just as an overview um first off each of you are are encouraged to

175to travel down. This is in Witchaw. Um again this year uh and the delegated assembly will occur on Saturday, November 15th, which doesn't feel like it feels like it should be a longer way than it really is, but it'll be here quickly. But you can see there the overview of the schedule. And then as a reminder, the um what the delegate assembly what you're what you're tasking either Dr. Vanderhuff or if she's not able to make it then uh Miss Bush to vote on your behalf board is uh the KASB legislative uh kind of priorities. Thank you. And so they would be um I'll let Dr. Vander share. She was able to make it. They had a KB regional um hosted one hosted a regional session at Smoky Valley. I was unable to attend because

176it coincided with the Kansas superintendent council. Um but she was able to to attend and she can share kind of an update of what are some of the topics that were discussed at that point. U I don't think we have yet the final um legislative priorities but she can talk with you just kind of share an overview. >> Sure. I'll give you an update. I'm not going to go over I mean I have pages and pages so if you want uh Dr. Vincent has copies of all of this. Um, it's important for us to be informed on legislative action that's taking and how it impacts the the district. So, I'm just going to go and go over the highlights. Um, if you want to mark your calendar for March 11th, that is um public school

177advocacy day in Topeka. And so, that's a an opportunity. So, if you're interested in that, um then the some of the big pieces of the language um that needs that they're going to review um at the November um convention is looking at how funding is weighted by students and staff and what model should be used going forward um and the identity uh funding over um special education um and how that's being financed. So, they're putting language together and have done quite a bit of advocacy and and worked with um special education um executive directors across the state also. Um and that um the state had a 1.5% budget cut across all budgets. Uh and so that includes um capers um which is something to look at a a a software firm um just for our

178knowledge. Um there's some out there that are not vetted and are actually um using unethical practices. So we I pass that information on to Dr. Vincent. So, I don't want to really say necessarily out loud th what those companies are, but we know who they are and why we should not be um doing business with them as they present themselves. Um if that makes sense why I I we can talk offline maybe if you're curious what there's one company um that they're highlighting um the uh notion of property taxes and reminding all of us of no there's no control over the 20 mil um at district revenue neutral rates. Um they have some talking points so if we want more literature we can um get that. Let me see if there is something else. lots

179of small like language changes which you see in policies that happen um fairly regularly just to be um clarified um so there's things aren't confused um in that but that's um really they're really trying to educate about school finance and how that um is understood um so they're focusing on accountability acquis adequacy equity efficiency and excellence um across the board. So if we want to use any of that, I have some other uh marketing material we can use and we can adapt to our color scheme, our district and all of that to also um help with some of the other communication we're doing which um they've made it in really um easy to use terminology which is really helpful because all of these very um you know many times hard to digest all of the

180information. that kind of just gives you a big really big overview of of all of that um process and um I could go into more of all the advocacy sessions they um have spent time in Topeka and across the state on that there's any questions happy to try to answer. >> Ready for a motion? I move that the board designate Laura Vanderhoff and Chelsea Bush as our representatives to vote on behalf of the district board of education during the delegator. Sir, >> okay, any discussion? All in favor say yes. >> Yes. >> Any opposed? With no 70. Thank you. We appreciate your um well, we'll if there's some key pieces, I'll make sure to communicate, but you have most of that information of the language changes so that I can and Chelsea can know exactly

181where we're going with that in a little about a month. >> Tony's going to register us, right? >> In fact, just be prepared for an email to come out explicitly about that. you can reply to it letting me know what days you'll be able to attend, if you're able to attend, and then we'll get you registered. >> Well, I'll make a a friendly comment. Dr. Vincent and I um will be presenting at our KSAB um convention on our 360 evaluation process that we've gone through. So, good nice we uh we were selected and so we we look forward to representing USD418 and the work that we've been a part of. paper. >> Good work. >> Yeah, >> that will be fun. >> I don't know. I I say it'll be fun. >> He's not saying

182anything. >> I think it's going to be awesome. So, we have the presentation ready and >> It's already submitted. So, >> um just on the routine items, uh there you have disposition of minutes. Um cler report um just continue to watch this uh budget comparison. One thing I'd draw your attention to is that we made our um we made a our special ed uh we made our special assessment earlier this year than last year. So you'll see that impacting that percentage uh fairly significantly cuz that was our local assessment that got paid earlier than what we had. So we'll watch that'll balance out over the course of the next few several months. But just so that you're aware that that's there. So when you see um there's a difference here that's good to see that

183difference but that's what that difference is. So um aside from that really everything remains you know from a percentage standpoint right where we would have expected it to be um treasures report uh similar in bills uh I didn't have any questions for clarification on the bills um well I phrase that I believe that those received were clerical in nature or or clarified clarified uh through the business office. So there were um some questions that were posed. I just I'm not aware of what those were uh to give kind of clarification, but there was some clarification. So we would just be seeking approval of the routine items. >> I'll offer what my clarification um with Nikki was. with the go federal government um shutdown, we um received funding for Head Start and um that was the

184and I had an email correspondence from Head Start. So, I was asking some follow-up questions of what that is looking like. So, we're just monitoring at this point. Um there's we don't have a lot of control over over that. But I I was just trying to get some sense of any other information that was coming through um and how we're going to um depending on how long this government shutdown is looming. Um it it will impact us. Not that it won't be caught up, but it we have to have some other um plans in place and that's why we have some of those other monies um set aside to help us. So, it was just one of my That's a lot of money um that comes in to support that service. >> Yes. And just

185to be just to be clear, the that that along with even our food service, those are things we're monitoring very closely as the shutdown has occurred because not that those monies are shouldn't still flow, but depending on how long the most recent one back in March was a 35day shutdown, uh we would hope that I don't I would just say our hope is that it would be done sooner because that could influence um that it won't influence this this month's reimbursements. Um but depending on how long it would last, it could start to like for example in food service could impact those. So we are monitoring those very closely. But right now there's nothing uh for the board to be overly concerned on. Um just knowing that it's a uncertain time for a lot of

186different a lot of different groups. Um but we'll certainly keep you updated if if it's needed. Um and then just yeah >> move we approve the routine items. >> Second. Any other discussion? All in favor say yes. >> Yes. >> Any opposed with a no 70. Appreciate that discussion. Future meeting items. Future meeting items. Just one thing to draw your attention to. The audit report remains a future meeting recommended item. That would have been completed back in honestly this month would have been the generally kind of one of the later times that we would have done it. We usually would have done it in September. Um we're they're still waiting to hear guidance on how to conduct the federal audit um as it relates to uh districts that are like us and have received funds

187that are over 750,000. So we'll continue to keep you updated, but it it could drag this is even before the shutdown. So now the shutdown could be uh potentially affecting that. But just be aware that um our auditors are eager and interested in providing you a full report once uh once they have the guidance to to complete their work. But then those other items continue to be on there. Announcements. Um it is parent teacher conference week which is fantastic. Um just a reminder the last couple days of this week then end up being off in exchange for all the late evenings. Um, our teachers and staff are working uh here Monday through Wednesday. Um, and then we will look forward to seeing any and all of our public that are able to make it out

188at either that 11:1 or uh the 5 to 7 window at the McFersonen Museum and we'll be pushing out a lot of information around that. And then we'll see this group back in two weeks uh for our our board workshop. >> The Monday night meeting is where? McFerson of Middle School October 20th. >> I can't come to any of them. I just looked at my calendar. Sorry. >> Those things happen. >> We got negotiations. So, >> okay. >> Just to uh add in um I sent out questions to get us started. So, if folks still need this, let us know um so we can start to have dialogue um coming up. The community discussion is nearly done. So, if you've been participating in that, but we wanted to go through this also. And so, I

189did send out the initial um questions um for part one. Um we are using the same questions that everyone else was using. So, there's not a gap in um the process there. So, um I look forward I I've read this when it first came out. Um it's it's really powerful information here in here. So look forward to um having some dialogue um around that so that we're um can then have further dialogue with um district leadership and our teachers about and our parents and >> and our students. >> Um you can let Dr. Vincent. Do we have any left? >> Yeah, I actually have one still. I have two that needed one more. >> Okay, we'll make sure we get them. >> I'm okay. Perfect. So thanks. I just wanted point of uh bring that

190up. So okay, we um have 9.2. Um and so I'll go ahead and uh read this motion. Motion that the board go into executive session to discuss the evaluation of the superintendent pursuant to the non-elected personnel exception under the Kansas Open Meeting Act. And the open meeting will resume in the board room at oh let's say 9:10. That should give us enough time. The session will include the board of education. Sir. >> Okay. All in favor say yes. >> Any oppose with no? Chelsea. >> Yes. >> You know for our guests out there doing their assignment. Um, this is the part where I said we'll close the doors. We will come back um and close up the meeting, but whatever works for you. [Music] How do you feel? [Music] Happy D. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music]

191Hey. Hey. Hey. [Music] That's just totally jumped up. You're lucky. >> Okay. Well, thank you tonight and uh pay attention to those upcoming coming uh meetings that we have in the community and parent teacher conferences and and we'll see everyone at the next meeting and we'll adjourn the meeting. >> Thank you all. Do you have any more schedule? [Music]