USD 418 - RNR Hearing, Budget Hearing, & Regular Meeting - September 15, 2025

001[Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Hey. Hey. Hey. [Music] Hey. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] These actually these dear dear grandfather. Awesome. [Music] Okay, we'll call the meeting to order. Join me for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Glad to have everyone here. We're missing two board members um not able to join us today. We'll move into 1.3, the approval of the agenda. We approve the agenda. >> Second. All in >> favor say yes. >> Yes. >> Any opposed with a no. 5. Thank you. Revenue neutral rate hearing is what we are here for at this meeting. Some context here. I would the top the context that I would

002offer would be that now Mr. roads, if you had anyone that signed up, this would be a chance for them to to speak. But just as a reminder for the board and anyone listening, and it's good to see folks here in the crowd that in 2021, Senate Bill 13 was passed and that changed the timeline for how budgets uh for really all of public entities in Kansas um and and the procedures um were implemented. And what ultimately came to be was an we always had budget hearings, but then we also now have revenue neutral rate um hearings in the case of uh Kansas uh that was established again back in 2021. So uh we make notice of that in the public uh publication in the seminal and uh that's been of course we met those

003expectations but uh it is uh sought in the next item that the board would uh uh approve the motion to exceed revenue neutral uh and pass the resolution and you'll be asked uh during that time to do a roll call vote. Um just as a reminder in the case of McFersonen public schools and building the budget um the revenue neutral relief by law you have to levy 20 mil general and so to uh not uh do that would be against statute and revenue neutral uh for that reason you must exceed it. So uh really unless there's is there any public comment? No proceed to the next time. So my computer is giving me oops the pages are you're looking for are not >> connected to but they have now changed to that message >> so

004I don't know if I lost connectivity >> that's message I received >> they were there but I reviewed it. Okay. Well, finder uh having the same issue having some technical issues at the moment accessing some of our documents. >> That's what I'm in is I'm in the board docs. There's general Well, for the sake of we can transition to um Mr. Roads, do you have resolution? Pull it up in a different way. >> If you'd give us a moment, we are trying to get the documents for those that are listening available to view as we're having some technical issues. >> I'll make a phone call. between now and our next meeting. I should say Again, anyone who's just joining us, we are having some technical difficulties and trying to access the documents as some of

005our technology is not working as it was a few minutes ago. complete again. I made sure >> and mine came back after uh for the next agenda item. We would just need the board to have a roll call motion. I have a little >> I don't have that. So, we'll just >> you know >> that's why we have things like this in place. I can see myself. >> Okay, we need a motion in a second and then we would have a roll call by Mr. M. Motion to exceed revenue neutral rate and approve resolution 2025-11 resolution on exceeding the revenue neutral tax rate. Second, any discussion and we'll move to our roll call then. I'm just going to go in the order that listed in alphabetical. So Chelsea Bush, >> yes. >> Bill, >> yes.

006Jeff Johnson, >> yes. >> Becca is not here. Perry, >> yes. >> Sherry is not here. Laura Vanderhood, >> yes. >> Thank you. Now, we have a few minutes. >> You can adjourn this portion. >> Right. We're going to adjourn this portion of our meeting and then we will move into the budget hearing. Journal. Thank you. [Music] Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. N. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. [Music] Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] [Applause] Heat. Heat. [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] Very [Music] good. >> I'm going to call the meeting to order. And we've already uh completed the pledge um at the last meeting just for those that are joining now. Um, so we need an approval of the agenda 1.2. >> Excuse me. Approved agendas for >> second. All in favor say yes. >> Yes. >>

007Those no missing two board members unable to join us for this budget hearing. It's 5. We'll move into 2.1 which is our budget hearing. Dr. Vincent, do you want to walk us through this? >> Sure. A couple of things just um um just as a reminder, this is the attached public notice that goes out regarding the budget hearing. This is this was published on August 27 uh 2025. and obviously it stated the following. So, I won't read that to you, but it stated where we were at and and what the the intent was to do. Um, I'll go over a couple of things just from the additional budgeting process information I shared earlier. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. McCabe. Um, for our audience might be a little bit more helpful. Um just as a reminder

008for the timeline for our budget um we submitted our budget um and our and the revenue neutral publications as as I shared there earlier some key dates just for your awareness back in July uh before July 20 we had to notify the clerk of exceeding R&R which you took action on earlier in August 27th we published the budget in are in our notice and uh of course your your action tonight then to finalize the budget um will ultimately set that for the school year and then uh before the 20th we will submit our budget over to Kansas State Department of Education and then um before the October 1st deadline we'll provide these documents over to the county clerk. So, just want to take a moment to honor and and say thank you to uh Miss

009Nikki Garcia. Our uh business uh manager did a tremendous job. It's it's working over the course of the the uh busiest time in the world of school finance through June and July to close out the end of years and um to initiate the budgeting process. But uh a special thank you to her and all her work on this. Um just as a reminder for the board and those out there um each year we evaluate each year the 14 um board and and district leadership down through building leadership teams take take a look at our district needs assessment um and we use that then to guide um the the budget and allocation process. So, this year was similar and uh appreciate the board's work back in June to um review the district needs assessment and help

010to uh inform this process. Those out there that um don't know enough about uh perhaps school finance, just as a reminder, it's state law that we levy 20 mills uh for the general fund. So that gets levied in every local community and then uh that money transfers to the state of Kansas and then that's distributed out through a uh school funding formula which I've shared with you all. Um just as a reminder that the education task force uh education funding task force is currently in the process of examining what changes may occur to that. So we have this funding year and next funding year uh that we know for certain what it'll look like but it could change after that. In the state of Kansas, you've got boards that are authorized up to eight mills

011um in their capital outlay as long as their voters have approved that. And so in McFersonen that was uh approved by Mcferson voters in May of 2014 and our budget reflects that authority. The LOB can be up to a maximum of 33%. And the budget authority uh that also required approval of voters and that occurred back in June of 2015. So uh in the case of really building the budget um all authority that uh is given to you as a board um is demonstrated in this uh budget for the year and um it's been again reviewed by Kansas State Department of Ed and over the course of the summer and uh as we transition to approval of the budget we would be seeking approval so that we can u take care of those other necessary

012timeline items. Thank you. Are there any questions for Dr. And we'll move um motion to approve the published 2025 20226 USD 418 budget as presented and approve resolution 2025-12 the local option budget percentage resolution. Second discussion. All in favor say yes. >> Yes. >> Any opposed with no zero. That concludes the budget hearing. Um and we will adjourn this meeting for those that are listening and those here. Uh the board meeting will start at 6 pm. >> Okay. [Music] That's heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] [Applause] [Music] Heat. Heat. N. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] Hallelujah. [Music] [Applause] Heat. Heat. [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] Heat. Heat. [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] Wow. My daughter CNA. Okay, we'll call the meeting to order. Just for everyone's uh information, we did

013the pledge at the beginning of our meetings at 5:30 today. So, we haven't overlooked that important part of how we conduct our our work here. Just so everyone's aware that we have um done that piece. We also have two board members that were unable to be in attendance today. So, we will move to 1.3. approval. >> That's what I meant. 1.2. Thank you, sir. >> I motion to approve the agenda and consent items. >> Second. >> All in favor say yes. >> Yes. >> Any opposed? Thank you. Mouthful. Okay. Any opposed with a no? 5 Z. Thank you. Okay. we will move to 1.3 which is comments from the public and we have um a lot of uh patrons here and appreciate that and I think we have a class here and so we appreciate

014that and so just to kind of help um us understand oh can't hear me out there >> you're going to have to pull it up closer >> let me move even closer does that help >> now can you hear Yeah. >> Oh, we're going to eat the mic tonight. >> Perfect. Excellent. >> Okay. So, uh for everyone um when we uh bring folks up to the podium to share um we do limit that to a five minute um time and the board um will receive that information um with typically no responses necessarily from the board. We welcome feedback always. So please know that any meeting um you are welcome to share your feedback, thoughts, solutions, ideas with us. And so um our clerk will um monitor the time for us. And so I have John

015Dson um as our first individual who signed up to speak. Hello, my name is John Thisten. Um, 30 years ago, my wife and I came or brought our children here to McFersonen. Um, we worked in the schools school district at that time. Our children were raised in the school district. When our youngest graduated from high school, he went on to Baker University and played football. And I went to Harrington School District and played superintendent. I was tasked for building improvement. I was informed by influential community members that a bond election would never pass for good reasons. We went to work, identified the needs in the district, worked hard at identifying that, put together a great plan, took it to a vote. Bond election didn't pass. We took it back to the to the people. They

016ended up looking at it. Um really tried to identify what they wanted, came back uh with another bond election, and it did pass. It was it was half of what the first one was, half the amount. 9 years ago, I was tasked by Harrington School District to improve their buildings. I was informed that uh by some influential community members that a bond election would never pass for good reasons. We did go to work at it. It was more complicated, more buildings, older buildings. Uh, and it was something I would say I really think the needs were met. It identified things. It uh really did a great job of touching everything in the district and we took that to the uh to a bond election and it didn't pass. um for health reasons, family reasons, and

017mine included, I I retired at that time. Uh Hayes continued with their plan. They went back, people tried to identify what the what they wanted and uh came back with another another plan and that plan passed. Bond election passed. Uh it was twice of what the first one was. and they passed it with uh building a new high school, which was the newest building in the district. The old one was the newest building in the district. Two years ago, my wife Kelly retired and we decided we're going to live in the community that we felt was more like home than any other. We moved back to Mcerson about a year ago. McFersonen is a community that will support building improvement. It may not be what the district needs, but it will be what they want.

018>> Thank you. >> Next, we have um the senior volleyball players. Now, when we have a group of individuals to present um public comment, we ask for one designated individual to share those remarks if it's a collective remark. So, give you a moment uh you've identified that person to come on up and say your name. So, just just one of you will be able to speak, but make sure we know your name. >> Okay. I'm Ellie Pollson. Um, I am a volleyball senior this year. Um, and I would say with what happened to the roundhouse this summer is obviously devastating to all of us and so many more. Um, and with the group of athletes that we have at McFersonen, there's very rare people that just do one sport. So, like for myself, I play

019volleyball and basketball. So, I used the roundhouse for two of my three seasons that I played sports for, and it is de a devastating loss that it got destroyed. And I would say the most frustrating part for us in the volleyball team is that we're not really getting like we don't really know what's happening. like we're getting information through a grape vine, but we haven't heard from anybody really what exactly is happening and what the steps are from here. And I think the way we've started our season, we have the chance and the opportunity to host Substate and I think it would be really devastating if we couldn't if we had the opportunity to host and we had to turn it away because we don't have the facilities to host it in. Um, and for

020some of us, some of them are dancers and so they also use the roundhouse. They're used to using it for basketball. And I think it's just hard that we don't know what's happening and we feel like we kind of want some answers from a primary source. And that's it. Thank you. Thank you. Just so uh well we'll I'll share that tonight on the agenda um we will be talking about the roundhouse. So if you're able to stick around for that um that will be um hopefully some good information for you to take back and um please know that um Dr. Vincent and board members are available um to you to answer questions and try to um help you understand uh all of the different um components of that. So, please feel free to reach out

021to any one of us um for that. Thank you very much for the public comments. We'll move into the donations report. each each month we're always uh fortunate to have uh gifts that are brought forward. Um you can see here that those range in a lot of different um in a lot of different manners. I think uh one of the more unique ones uh recently was an assortment of school supplies uh that was donated uh through through an effort with JAR Performance Automotive who saw a need for uh recognizing that we do a lot of supply chain work for elementary and middle but uh they saw an opportunity to support kids at the high school. So, um, between that and then and you see there then a donation u for the middle school of of

022$2,000 for student and teacher needs u we're we're very fortunate and if there's specific questions I'm happy to address those otherwise we would be seeking approval of the donation report as presented move second >> any other discussion just offer I so always appreciate the uh generous um gifts and support to across our district from our community. So all in favor say yes. >> Yes. >> Any oppose? No. 5. Thank you again. Thank you for your um support of the district. We'll move down to 4.1 or superintendent. I'm just I'm going to update the board and and certainly we have a couple of old business discussion items that I'll be involved in as well, but I just want to I guess share with the board that we did receive um state assessment results from spring of

02325. Uh those were made available to school districts in the middle of last week. I'm looking for Mrs. Mc Williams. >> There's thumbs up th Wednesday. Wednesday at 8 8 a.m. >> Thank you. Wednesday at 8 a.m. So, uh, she and the team have been already working on that. But just a a little bit of context for anybody, well, now that we have folks in the audience and others listening at home, just a reminder on state assessments, we we do those annually. uh infome what we do is we typically review those in June um at the end of the year along with some other data for student performance um in a board work session uh in the the fourth Monday of June. Unfortunately, this year we weren't able to do that. The the test itself

024was uh altered. That actually dated back to several uh to a change that occurred several years ago. So what ultimately occurred was there was the set score um that the state board of education had to take action on and they did that um earlier in the month um and that then that allowed us to be able to see for them to release test scores. So we will review those and those will be coming forward in a future meeting. But u those those we do have those now. Um, another item that I would just share is just it certainly has an impact here in McFersonen and it's it has an impact on the uh entire Kansas State uh education K12 and actually really higher ed is that Dr. Randy Watson, commissioner of education, uh formally submitted

025his resignation, retirement, um last week at the state board. And so the state of Kansas will be the state board will be tasked with finding the next commissioner of education and certainly that will be meaningful for all Kansas kids um and certainly here in USD 418. So, aside from those two updates, I don't have anything else um other than our two items for old business. >> I don't have any questions for Dr. Vincent. >> Not seeing any. Thank you for that report. We have other um topics that we'll be addressing that Vincent will help us with. And with that, we'll move to 5.1, the roundhouse floor discussion. Um, >> I'd actually invite Mr. Dwayne Cash to come up during this one just in case questions or in case there are questions about the detention call.

026Thank you, Mr. Cash. Let me just start first with a little bit of background on this uh on this particular endeavor. Um so as you as the board's aware and as those in our our um audience and and those hopefully listening at home understand back in June 1718 over those that two-day period we received uh substantial rainfall here in McFersonen uh resulting in the roundhouse being flooded. uh this board, you uh took action to approve the replacement of that gym floor um following that initial damage. 8 days after you took approval on that, we saw a second round of severe storms um that caused additional flooding. Well, it didn't cause additional damage, but it got back into the roundhouse and prompted closer review. At the following board meeting on August 11th, we paused that floor

027replacement project till we could have civil engineers um help us to evaluate what long-term solutions may may need to be put in place for flood mitigation. Uh this past Monday, Call Valley Engineers in partnership with Inside Design Studios, so Mr. Thank you for being here, uh presented their recommendations related to the detention pond expansion and the drainage improvements. um last week that in that uh the that item got tabled um and brought forward for the September 15th. These are the super this is the superintendent's perspective which is why I'm offering it in this uh manner. Now the at that special meeting it seems to me that for this group the board that there were three kind of concerns that were raised um that needed some kind of additional review or some kind of additional clarification.

028So that's my hope that we'd be able to that they have been able to do that. The first of those was the cost of a temporary flood mitigation. So, we had a lot of conversation around the tubing for um a a flood mitigation tubing that could help prevent water from getting into the roundhouse while we simultaneously made improvements on site. The second item was uncertainty about the detention pond expansion and I'll try to clarify that and ultimately just confidence in replacing the gym floor. What I mean by that is wanting to know that we can confidently invest in in our facility while knowing that we can keep flood waters out of there. So this past week, uh, we worked with our experts from IDS and and Cob Valley. And what what we've done to hope

029really to to alleviate the concern about temporary mitigation is u the detention pond expansion. We will put that out for bid. We will uh we'll have basically bid um specs that we will expect those interested in in submitting uh for and as a part of that we will we will include uh in the scope of that work that that it' be on their responsibility to make sure that temporary uh flood mitigation was in place. So ultimately as a part of the bidding process, it would be their responsibility was making sure what that means is um and and kind of in conversation is it's not uncommon in construction sites for individuals to or for companies to have to keep water out of certain locations. Um so we don't as a district need to invest in something

030uh that can keep it quote dry while we're waiting for that work to get done. That's that's their industry. That's their effort. they can can uh provide the best solutions for us and keep it dry while they're moving that. The second is just to share and again I've shared a lot of information with you over the course of this last week but I tried to capture it here. Capacity will increase um all this detention pond expansion right around well just right at 150% increase. So it'll go from 16,000 cubic feet of water storage to just under 40,000. In talking with our folks at Cal Valley, they believe that uh this detention size uh will exceeded would have exceeded the protection needed in our events this summer. Okay. And then the last thing here is just

031a little bit more detailed, but um it's really a context that I want to make sure that I I clarify over the storms can be viewed apparently differently over 24-hour periods, actually up to 60-day periods. Um in talking with a couple of different uh folks throughout this entire process, it was referred to as a 200-year storm. And if you look at the data points over an entire 48 hour period, which is a 2-day period, that we were at 8.81 in, which would have been been right at that threshold of what would have constituted a 200y year event. The reason that it's important though to note is that for design standards and even for how we would view the storm going through the retention, my understanding is the civil engineers would review it as a 24-hour

032period and then design retention for a 24-hour period. Viewed that way, the June 17 event that occurred in the early morning hours would have constituted in that short amount of time that they got it was a 50-year storm. And then in the early morning through the extended day of June 18, it would have constituted a kind of a traditional storm. It had gotten overwhelmed the the system, so to speak. Uh but those would have been spewed separately. uh would have been on a 24-hour period more directly quoted as being that the expanded pond then according to our folks there would have would have allowed sufficient would have been sufficient if we'd had this expansion in place and uh in addition over the course of this last week. We're also able to find some other enhancements

033that where we need to to clean up a portion of the line and potentially make some enhancements to that line which will occur as that detention pond is being expanded. Let me pause there. Mr. Cash, is there anything I need to add or otherwise state based on what we learned from Cob Valley and our conversations this past week for detention? >> Um, no. I think you covered uh the main part though. I think the thing that I would emphasize is uh the pond itself is going to get almost 300% bigger. So the point is try to keep as much water into the pond. Uh and if we' had those rain events, we would have been able to hold that amount of water in the new design pond. U but with the actual area, the paved

034area in combination with the ponds where you get that even larger capacity before you put the building in jeopardy. I think through the efforts of uh everybody involved, we've discovered several things that have popped up. The pumps not working to their efficiencies or not working. We've got two pumps in the U structure that one of them was not working as of today. We found that. So, we were had three pumps and we're only using two of them. Uh we have a a pipe that goes around the weld shop that had blockage. So the capacity of a 15-inch pipe was maybe 30% effective because of sediment at the bottom of the pond which caused flow. We also believe that that pipe has settled over time. Uh as the ground is moved and settled around that weld

035shop, that pipe is also settled. Uh we think is not operating to its efficiency as well. And we think there's some other things we can do in that redesign and rebuild that will put that back into its right shape at the right elevations with the right protections uh to be in a better spot going forward with the size of the detention basin being bigger and getting all three pop pumps working uh to their design level should put us in really good shape. >> Thank you, Mr. Cash. Just for clarification, what we'd be seeking then uh based on the updated analysis and the recommended actions for this evening would be a motion as was the case the recommended motion last week was to move forward with the detention bond enhancements as presented and the motion to

036move and the motion to move forward with the gym floor replacement project in the roundhouse with Langford Enterprise. Those be the two that we're seeking. An additional component though that came up at the tail end of last week that um I had sent sent a message out to the board about is um there with as you take action this evening if you were to move forward with with those two items we it would be November 1st before you would have hardwood being installed in the roundhouse. And I'm going to say then that's a result of an early December finish. Um that's based on what our our Lford has shared with us from the timeline. What we learned about last week is a something that could serve as I'm going to call a stop gap is

037a temporary solution that we could use um if we partnered with a group called Kingdom Courts. Uh this was a really unique um really unique and great opportunity for student uh athletes on the volleyball team at uh Miss Mission Valley Middle Valley High School. They had an outdoor event. We've been in direct contact with the owner of that company and trying to think through some of the logistics of what could we do between when we are if the from from when the board takes action and we were able to get concrete poured in there and the time between uh getting the poring installed. would there be something that we could do to try to help these young ladies and other student athletes um to be able to be on a court in the roundhouse um

038during a portion of their season. So there's a tremendous amount of logistics with that. Um and some of those I just cannot speak to. Um, so what we'd also be the board could consider tonight then would be to also authorize us to uh work with Langford and um and Kingdom Core try to identify the best approach to help with a stop gap solution if that was ultimately ended up being something that could logistically work. >> Let's open it up for some questions maybe that I think some might have. At least I know I have a question at least one. Maybe I'll just start us off with that. >> Can you help us may I'm not sure Dr. Vincent or Mr. Cash on the retention pond update where that's at because there's rain in the forecast.

039Um and even whatever we vote on today, we need some kind of date on where we're at on the detention pound right now. >> Well, so something that was that Mr. Cash just mentioned was the con or was the the clogging of it um has been cleared out and the initial improvements have been made um on that specific drainage. I see Bill there. Bill, do you want to join us at the table? All of it to say we've done some additional flow testing today. Um but the pipe is I guess I this way. Have we been able to clear the pipe and get it to where water can drain? >> We are functional at this point. We have uh Mac quality here helping us uh tomorrow to troubleshoot to get our one pump that's not

040functioning completely properly up to running speed tomorrow. But even so, uh we are at uh a level of functionality that is way greater than than even we were last week. So, um I believe that um if we had rain, we're we're to the point now where we can we can remove the water in a way that that helps us stay. Okay. >> Thank you. Appreciate that. I think that's just important in our steps. And how is that going to be monitored as we go? Team's going to be checking that. >> Yeah, we have been uh feels like on call 24/7 here lately. Um but um trying to stay on top of things, making sure things are are functioning. um and maintaining things from a custodial standpoint, making sure sandbags are in place when they're needed

041to when they need to be. Um shop vacing if that becomes necessary at times. Um and again troubleshooting anything we need to do to make sure that that flow works correctly. And I again I believe I believe we're at a point where I have I have individuals that can get up in the middle of the night that need to kick on. you know, that that secondary pump is a redundancy. Um, and so, um, you know, even if we have to get up at 1:00 in the morning, we have staff monitoring the weather, making sure that they're getting up if they need to and and kicking things on if if need be. But, um, at this point, I think even especially if we get that secondary pump working the way that it's supposed to within the

042concrete cylinder, I think we'll be able to keep up with even if we didn't kick on the secondary pump. I I I do agree with Mr. Cash that um >> You're going to have to stop, right? >> Sorry. Is that better? >> Yeah. I'm sorry. Um so with that, if we get things working properly, they will function. But I do agree with Mr. Cash that we need to reevaluate that to make sure that the flow rate is where we believe it to be. because after all these years I I question those pumps are up to to the standards with one of them working intermittently that that's a concern. So we we'll try and get those addressed first thing in the morning tomorrow in the event that we have rain we can handle. Thank you. >>

043What about the pipe? Is you said something about the pipe could have settled. Is that okay? Does it need to be replaced? Is that something we also have to work to address? Um I agree very much with Mr. Cash's uh assessment of the situation and the and the answer is yes. Um however, we do have some other alternative ideas that might be used for actual natural draining of the area that we're investigating along with Mr. cash and and macro air that could eliminate even potentially there's multiple variables and multiple strategies right now that we're investigating um that would better us for the future. Um, with that said, again, I think we're at a point where we're at least functional with the testing that we did today, the the the direction of the flow, um, while

044there's again more room for looking into it deeper, it is flowing the right way, pumps are kicking on. And we are, even if it rained tonight, I believe that I mean, granted, 200 year rain, no, probably not. I don't think any we'd ever be ready uh with our current status but when we rework it then we'll be there but for right now we're okay >> to to do that Mr. dash if we or as a part of the detention pond expansion that pipe that piping in that area is a part of this >> solution also gets >> the grain around the uh weld shop and the pipe will be replaced as part of this process >> that's helpful >> so when that pond is repositioned with the size the weld chop the auto shop is

045not going to be the >> auto shop will the auto shop will not be impacted Neither will the website just the grading around it. >> Other questions motion. Do you want >> Hold on. I want to go back to the before we motion to talking about the temporary solution. >> I know it's not ideal. Um but it does get our athletes, it does get our gym classes back into the roundhouse. Um we do have the ability to do longterm. So, could we use this all the way through basketball season and then come spring when we know we're out of the clear, we're good, we could install the flooring then and we know we're protected. All the mitigation work would be done. The drainage would be fixed. Is that a more viable solution than installing it

046in November? Disrupting season, disrupting that at the beginning of December. So, I would like to talk about that as a board and see if that's the route we could potentially go the flooring to go in but not install it until spring. >> Yeah, that I think we definitely need to be looking at that alternative. And I don't know, you'd have to talk to Linford whether the potential would exist to get the floor installed, the permanent floor installed over the Christmas, New Year holiday, whether that's enough time or like you say, wait till seasons are over and then install the per. I'm just worried if we could do it mid Christmas break or somewhere in there, we're going to have weather delays, we're going to have issues. So, do we play it safe, go with a

047temporary route, then we know we could do it and then just do it in the spring >> would be kind of my thinking. I just >> The only thing I want to cl the only thing I want to clarify when I say logistics again is that I'm not I want to be careful that at least it's not understood from me at the table that I'm telling you that I know that this that temporary solution will work because as of today, I don't know that. I do think it's an awesome idea and I think we should absolutely explore it and I've been in contact with them. My concern is that um we do have a recessed concrete floor in there so we would want to make sure that a couple of just from a just a

048practical logistics of it when we pour the concrete that we'd be able to raise it up to a level the the floor as it was installed and utilized at Mil Valley High School. It would have been a single court. So, that's something just for us to be aware of. Um, I know in talking with Shane, uh, that's doable for some events that we would have, for example, for volleyball, but it may not be a practical, uh, setup. I worry about the the, uh, rolling out of the bleachers. Uh, they rely on a portion of that uh, floor. So, we would have to we want to make sure that we could build that all up. Those are answer those are all questions that I'm not sure that I know the answer to. Uh, you don't want

049to rest that. I know for a fact I don't have the answers to that because those just we haven't been able to get that resolved with that group. So I do think it's a worthwhile consideration, but I just would caution. I don't want you to hear me say that I know that we could put it in place because what I don't want to do is pursue that and then we find out logistically it just has become a no. I I just don't want to send a false message to to folks that that that would for sure work. There's other components that we I think we still need with this information. Um because the last meeting we there was conversation of electrical work and what that looks like and I don't know how that and this

050system would work together and what might be needed and oh Bill has an answer there maybe. >> So in light of uh Dr. for instance directed to me today. I've been doing homework on all of those issues. Uh working with our uh partners and and in the area and um we've we've already gotten a quote on the electrical work and and that's ready to per this board's directive to move forward on um and that would be underlying. I've already worked with Langford on the concrete aspect of that which would be after the the electrical is is put in play. Um on top of that what Dr. was referencing um that I've visited with some companies today that believe that they can meet the need of the area surrounding for example it's a 100 by 100

051space and there the court if I remember right is 100 by 80 >> and 80 by 50 >> 80 by 50 okay thank you um but with that said I believe we can fill in the area and make it functional even with the temporary court um with with the people that I've visited There's a there's a again I don't want to ever be in the position that he was talking about where we're saying this is the answer but I do have I believe some good strategies as we move forward to be able to fill in those spaces and make it functional if that's the direction this board chooses to move in. Do you want to remind them what um the why why do we need to run electricity underneath of the so the electricity was

052sorry there was electrical in the floor of the roundhouse >> correct >> why do we need to rerun it why is it in the ground for that matter >> very good because we don't want to interrupt the ball game with extension corks and uh some of that runs directly underneath the court and for the like I'll call them media tables that Shane and his crew have we needed be able to run both sound cables and electrical cables underneath the court to both sides. And so, um, in in looking at that and working with quotes on that, we're ready to to handle that. >> So, it would replace the existing wire equipment that's that's there that got damaged by the water. >> Yeah, it's it's it's gone. Uh, part of the the removal. It was there

053was no saving it. It's just all been removed. So it has to be recreated and and have to remind the board that this is athletic impact but also our PE and our other classrooms and displace classes that are also being impact. Um I know we know that but I think it's just helpful to um remember the whole scope of what we're trying to care for um for our building teachers, students, and our community um as we try to navigate this decision. question. What's the difference in timeline getting people back on the floor? Go with this other thing temporary court. We might be in there by November 1st. We're going to be December 1st. What's the difference in timeline? Um, >> assuming everything goes right with this new idea, >> our hope would be that we

054could, well, I'll say it this way. I don't see anything occurring sooner than October 1st on the temporary solution. That's my initial just in conversation with the company and in conversation with thinking through the timeline that we would have for a concrete board. Um I I just I think early October would be the year would be the that kind of best option. Should that be an option though? And really then I think that becomes the question which is would if that were to be an option would that be how long does that need to be an option? I think that's what Miss Bush was posing. The question is could could it be longer? right? You could as long as it works, it could it could presumably be longer. But, um, I think that something to

055just be aware of from from a board action standpoint is moving forward with the floor. Um, while November 1st would be the hardware, moving forward with the floor project, you would get the concrete board, if we had a temporary solution, we could uh obviously we can work with Kingdom Courts on that to get that to be a I call it a stop gap. And then if November 1st was the date that they could move forward, that would give at least a couple of weeks before any of our winter practices started. Now, that's going to displace our our winter athletes. Um, but uh the first activities in the gym that are scheduled activities um are not Mr. Buck, I'm going to look at you December 3rd and 4th. Um so if we were to move on

056that you might have a couple of those impacted if it was delayed but um if we were to continue with Langford we would have the and they were able to to get that done in that amount of time you get could expect to have the full gym back in action in those early December events. >> Is that including the concrete setting? Yes, >> we're going to do the concrete regardless, aren't we? >> You got to move forward to the Well, >> isn't that part of the motion? >> Your action on these items would move the concrete forward. And again, as a as a third item, you could you could include a motion to authorize the district to coordinate with Langford and >> Kingdom Courts to identify best options for a temporary solution. Because if we

057move forward with putting the floor in in November, we're disrupting gym class again. Whereas if the temporary solution could get us through, we wouldn't be impacting the gym. Volleyball would go, basketball would go. It's kind of where I was just thinking. Everyone could actually be back in the space. We're good. We're getting us through all of our activities, our gym, and we get the floor in in the spring. We're only impacting the PE in the short term if we would move forward with that like in March. Yeah. The only thing that from my perspective is we need the details and understand the the scope of that contract and the work that we don't have yet tonight to make a decision on and make sure that that's a fiscally responsible um avenue for us to pursue

058so we can get everything back online. Yeah, I would like to support both of the recommendations, but if we could have an understanding with Langford that if this temporary op would be viable and quicker and meet our full needs, uh, that we would have the opportunity to interrupt their work to do that and then get them back in the spring as Chelsea is saying, but there's a lot of the unknowns there. I really think we just need to get them moving as quickly as we can and uh and with the contractor providing the the temporary flood control. Um let's um pro proceed with that. We just need to keep moving. How quickly on the bid process is it going to take to get somebody lined up to to uh do the retention pond and all

059the related work? >> You and your team have worked on that. The bid documents will be ready uh here in a couple weeks. I think we'll be maybe sooner than that. Actually, he's working on it tonight instead of being here. Um so, you know, we'll be ready to go to market right away here in the next week or two. >> And would you stipulate in that one of the first things successful bidder needs to do is put up the temporary >> 100%. Yeah, that'll be part of the bid documents as well. Knowing there's a lot of detail in the bid process, how can we as a board um encourage that to be expeditated so that we get the bids back in a in a even quicker responses? I don't know how that impacted the work

060because we want quality work. Um >> one of the things that we'll do just on that is we'll it's a fairly standard uh bid process and we have that avenue to put it out there. Something the board can always consider as well is we have green bush, we have tips, we have some other and just for those kind of in the audience and others that don't understand what that means, there are contractors who have already pre-bid work with state um consortiums and often times those those groups have already bid certain types of work and so sometimes we're able to to to leverage those uh folks. But uh really from a timeline perspective, we would be able to in the next couple of weeks be able to get bid documents, get them pushed out, that still

061give us time to then bring that back to this board for ultimately for a selection. Is that correct? >> Yeah. Yeah. And you know, typical bid period for something like this, if you did go just out to the bidding market, it' be 2 to 3 weeks. But if if tips or another co-op can do it faster, that's an option as well, >> which we do have providers for that. >> So, all to say, we work along with IDS and and examine all options to try to get this as quickly as we can. >> Thank you. Appreciate that. Jeff, I wasn't sure if you were making a motion or just offering. >> I will the first one then. I would move that we move forward with the detention pond enhancements as presented and with that full

062understanding of flood control that part second. Any other discussion on that motion? Seeing any all in favor say yes. >> Any opposed would know 5-0. Now we're looking at the gym four. I would also make a motion on that that we move forward as proposed here, but with understanding with Lanford that if we were to look at a temporary option that could be expedited quickly that we could work with them to delay their installation till later but do all the concrete work that >> second. Any discussion? >> Sounds great. >> Okay. All in favor with a sign of yes really quick. So this is authorizing Dr. Vincent to go back to Scott and talk with him and get the logistics. Are you going to bring that back to us? Like how soon will we know?

063And do we need to do that as a third motion if we could? >> Oh, okay. >> Tap your mind, Jeff, cuz it's still not coming through. >> So, we have a second. So, um all in favor with the say yes. Yes. >> Any opposed? With no 5 Z uh moving forward with the gym floor replacement project as um presented and with modifications to expedite that, get this information. So, we appreciate that. I understand we have a third motion coming forward. >> Okay. I'd like to move that we explore a third option which would authorize administration to check with and the company is >> Kingdom Courts to see what the possibility of looking at a temporary floor for the season or throughout the whole year if it would meet our needs and get that information

064back to us as soon as we can. >> Second. Any other discussion? >> Yes. I'd like to thank Chelsea for pursuing that option that we're talking about here, the temporary floor bond or however she got the word on kingdom courts. I think it will at least give us potentially very >> Okay. All in favor say yes. >> Any opposed with no carries 5 Z and we'll look forward to hearing the update on what you find out regarding Kingdom Course and driving that as uh soon as feasibly possible back to the board. >> You want to take a break? >> Would the board like a mic? Is the board like a break? How much time? >> 5 minutes. Breathe. Let's take five minute break. [Music] [Applause] [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. N. [Music] [Applause] Heat.

065Heat. [Music] [Applause] Heat. Heat. N. [Music] [Applause] [Music] Heat. Hey, heat. Hey, heat. [Music] Okay. After a a short break, we'll um get back to the business at hand. Appreciate the discussion and the work um looking at the roundhouse. We'll transition to 5.2 facility assessment work. And Dr. Vincent, >> Mr. Cash, >> you know what, Mr. Cash, let me try to get that set up a little bit different. That is your remote work. >> Yep. There you go. Okay. You want me to start or you want to start? >> Well, I just would I guess I do kind of typically do it. It's good to see you, Mr. Cash. Thanks for being here. I'll turn it over to you. How about that? >> Well, um, we our next step in the process, what we talked

066about last Monday night, is now to start to engage with the community. We're still in that that phase of the process where we're just still gathering. We have not made a decision where that's uh really important. I think uh the comment earlier by the gentleman is accurate. You know, we need to find the the the what the community will support, right? And that's this next step. So, so tomorrow night we will kick off that first uh committee meeting. Uh understand there'sund and some people who have signed up to to say they're going to be there. 150 been asked. So that'll be uh exciting to hear their input uh and what they think uh is important uh to them and to their neighbors and the people they talk to. And I'm bringing that voice to us

067tomorrow. And uh kind of wanted to just kind of run through how that process would work with uh the board so you have a good understanding of it. Um, as we as we start to do these processes, there's no it's not a science. It's a kind of an art. A little bit of an art, a little bit of a science. And we want to ask questions, but we don't want them to be leading questions. And that's hard to do. Sometimes it's hard to phrase a question in a way that takes the bias out of it, especially when we've spent so much time looking at the buildings and understanding some of the things. So, we've attempted to do that. And I I'll go through some of those questions with you tonight and I'd love to have

068your input if if we should change a word or change it or maybe not ask that or I'd love to have that as well. And then we also I've shared with Shiloh and I think he shared with you uh some thoughts that you could uh debate if you chose to tonight or you could table it to next week after we have our first meeting and we can revisit those kind of guiding principles after that first meeting. That way we can go into that first meeting and say we don't have any preconceived notions. Uh nobody has got any uh so we can get really honest responses hopefully. But that's totally up to you. Um you know we we see it both ways all the time. So the the first part what was working so make sure

069I clicked on the right side of the screen. There we go. There you go. of the guiding principles and again they're very simple questions you know they're um you know is is something the the board would want to say or the committee wants to say is we want to explore um efficiency and effectiveness you know how do we be most effective educators within the facilities we have and be uh efficient in doing that and efficiency is you know pretty pretty broad what there's lots of ways to be efficient right there's lots of ways to be effective uh but that's a that's a pretty standard, you know, goal I think that most people would want to um work under is that that kind of a mantra. Uh what's the future use of the facilities? You know,

070we want them to consider what those uses would be and how are they best utilized now and in the future as we move forward. Um you know, talk about campus identities. There's a lot I know there's a lot of conversation in the community about campuses. U and and there's a lot of thoughts and feelings about that. We want to pull that information out there. Same with the middle school. The middle school, you know, is a is a been here for almost a hundred years. It's got a lot of identity. Uh but it's it has a lot of challenges, too. So, what's the future there? Um and what does that mean, right? What's those kind of what's the words around that to effectively do that without bringing bias to that conversation? Um and then just as

071looking as a district, what's the district goals uh as a holistically uh you know that all school facilities receive attention? You know, was that you know what the the goal is and that's what the community might tell us that you know we want to make sure everybody gets recognized, not just one uh one building. And we we definitely want to hear that conversation. Um right sizing is sustainability. Um, you know, that goes back to, you know, our u capacity issues uh and our operation issues. That's a good conversation to have as well. And then that financial stewardship, how do we use the dollars best um in this process and then going forward for capital dollars and other uh funds that are available to to your disposal to run the district facility way. Is there any

072conversation or questions or thoughts about any of those that you would like to explore deeper? >> Okay. So, help me understand when when this group gathers tomorrow and you lead out with this, you'll throw out these these different >> That's that's what we want to talk about. Do we want to do that or do we want to maybe bring this those questions back here after we do that? Uh that's the that's what we're kind of looking for a little bit of guidance there. What I'm going to do tomorrow, Aaron Hardy will be Hopefully he's his wife's pretty sick. Um we'll we're going to give the building report cards again. We're going to go through the process where we're at. We're going to do it very quickly, a lot less detail than we did with the

073board meeting. We don't have a whole lot of time. And then we will explore questions and have them run a poll. And we'll run the poll questions and I'll I'll talk about those here in a second. And it's the same kind of tied in but just phrased a different way. It's more a question format. Uh we've gotten some feedback that in the past sometimes when polls were done they felt like they were leading people and we want to make sure we're not doing that bringing bias to it. So uh that's part of that process is to refine that tonight and tomorrow. Um, but then at the end of that meeting, we'll have a pretty good pulse, I think, of where people are thinking is important, what the the goals are, uh, what people are passionate

074about and what they really feel the needs are of the district facilitywise. Uh, then we'll bring that report back to you next time and say, "This is what we heard from them." And then that might be the time you want to start to work on guiding principles from this body, you know, to take that information and shape it and do something that we can focus in on next time for the next piece. And then after that, we will start to put some dollars to those top priorities, those ones that kind of come to the top. We'll start to put some funds to them and say, "Well, this is what this would cost. If this is a big priority for you, this is the dollars that it impacts." Uh, then have them rerank that again. uh

075and then they'll they'll that'll all happen and we'll do it again and you know until we start to really come to some kind of resolution that people all feel good about >> I kind of like all of these guiding principles um except for campus identity. I really feel like that is leading people on um I think we should use that here but not necessarily push that out to them. I mean that's basically telling them don't carry your ideas. we're keeping the round out or we're keeping the high school where it is. You know, I think that one is just kind of predetermined and this is the path we're going forward and I don't want people to think that that's where we're coming from. Um, if that's where we end up, okay, but I want them

076to to get there themselves. I don't want any us guiding them to that point. So are we limiting because I I think to me a key key point is we have we have an opportunity to stay mil mill neutral with with bond which would be roughly 50 million >> 50 million. >> Okay. If if we don't give that parameter, do do we create lots of discussion that's unnecessary or is it beneficial and be able to say, you know, that's a good idea, but that has to be a future bond down the road, but we're working within $50 million. That's that's a parameter the board has set for you to consider this bond. Is that helpful or is it better to let them dream a little bit? because I can hear all new campuses, new facilities,

077all of this and that. And no way is 50 million in a touch, you know, all of that. >> So, it's almost like we need a parking lot of like future ideas and what we could do outside of the major scope. Is that kind of >> Yeah. And I mean, as you're helping a long range planning, we've got this immediacy that deals with what we have potentially money to spend or offer that we could. and we have this opportunity to stay um is one of our talking points mil levy neutral >> but we obviously can't do some of the big things. >> So um do do we let them dream a little bit in the the context of you know what would you like to see? The other thing is as we saw the reports

078on our declining enrollment and our efficiency in that I really think we need to offer to them. You need to think about reducing buildings in this district and what are your thoughts on that? I'm curious to see is is that um centered around elementary sites? Is it maintenance building? Is it bus barns? Is it something at the middle school? What is that? That's I'm very interested in hearing that. >> But we can't add buildings. So, one of I think our bench points would be, >> you know, we want to hear what your thoughts because the board is saying we need to be efficient and reduce site locations. >> Well, let me answer the first one first. Um, I don't know. You know, I I think that that's the second phase of that process is when

079you start to put the dollars to it. You know, that's hypothetical. Uh we hear tomorrow night that, you know, there's a large contingency of people that say we need a new this and it needs to be here. And we take it back and we price it. We come back and say, "We heard you. We didn't ignore it." and but the price is this and that will probably take care of a lot of those issues potentially, right? But it might be where they say, "Okay, maybe that's really what we want to do." I don't I don't know that. I don't know what what way it'll go. I think that's what's interesting about it. Um, and that's only the part that gives me a little halty is to put that cap on it today because it does

080stifle, you know, like, hey, we've already decided that we're going to do this cuz maybe it's maybe when we go through this process and it's 60 million and it checks enough boxes that they're like, well, we want we we'll support that. Maybe it's, you know, 55, I don't know. Uh, so that's the only part that gives me a little bit of positive back putting that cap on there. But I think that can be the guiding principles on the next one. You as we go through this process and you're like, I think we can you go there, that's when you can maybe say it then or you can say it tonight. I I think they could go either way. Personally, I I think never actually done it that way. So I don't know how that would

081work. Um the second part um and we do have questions related to that and I'll show you the questions here in a second but we do have questions about that and we're going to talk about that when we show them the the building report card that we are underutilized in almost every building the district has and we have a lot of buildings that we're maintaining that aren't core to education that maybe we should evaluate. How would you evaluate that if you were looking at it? What would you tell um the you know what would be a good idea to do with all of the buildings that we're taking care of in the district uh just not educationally but all support buildings and buildings that we're renting currently you know is that is that something we

082want to explore too and how do we solve that issue. >> Are you going to address the buildings that are rented versus owned? >> Well, we'll touch on them. Yeah, we'll touch on them. uh we'll make you know point that you know Strive is a rented facility and Mckid is a rented facility and the bus bar is a rented facility uh and as we go through those um different buildings and tell them about it what we see as the major needs of each building um then let them kind of tell us what they think about that. Yeah. curious um these guiding principles, how does this work or how would you envision facilitating this if it it's a blank canvas and how how do you navigate through um because I really think that's what I would

083like to see is what that blank canvas without any structure to hear organically what the needs are instead of oh then I don't think about a certain so I'm just really curious you about how that would be facilitated. >> So that's why I think that maybe this is the way to do it and that's the uh going >> while you do that real quick. I had a thought on that too is like let them go in and do whatever and then we take their comments, their ideas and we funnel them into those guiding principles as a board cuz then we can see what they say for effectiveness and all of that. We can see what they say for long range facility use. So maybe those are more for us and those are our guard rails

084to bring in their comments. That's kind of how I was thinking of using them. >> I think that's a that's a good way to do it. Um, so I think that you build those kind of you know I gave you an example of guiding principles but they're not you know you can create your own take what I gave you and use it as a starting point or throw it all out and start over. And you can do that based on what this this information comes out of this first meeting is potentially. And it builds on itself as we go through, right? Refine, refine, refine, refine. And there might be a point where we have to stop and say, "Okay, we need we need to go back and get more information just like you did tonight

085in your process. You know, we can't make all the decisions cuz we may we need more information, more input." So, I think that that that's all that's there's it's really up to how you want to do it. But I think that that's a good approach, especially with what I hear from people saying that there they felt like in the past it's already kind of been predetermined a little bit. We don't want that. We want >> I'd like to just leave us out of it >> completely. Completely. Well, I don't think we should have discussed tonight what our preferences are. Let's wait to hear from that. >> You got in that, but then we also have to I mean uh we could create some disappointment real quick when we say we're not spending that kind of

086money or u that just isn't going to work on how we want to configure our our building needs. But I certainly do want to hear their thoughts. It's just I like to control things. So I, you know, that that part I need to loosen up the grip and and and hear and listen, but also realize that on the side we've been sitting, we know some very key things that are going to really drive what we can make decisions around. So how how do we balance that? you know, this first meeting, opening it up just to kind of hear what's flowing in their minds, >> we refine that back. Your second meeting, you kind of draw it in a little bit after a discussion with us >> and then and keep refining it down. Is that

087kind of the what you're thinking? >> Yeah. And as uh Chelsea mentioned that, you know, that just because it doesn't make this round, >> you know, maybe that's the next round. And we say, okay, you prioritize these five things, prioritize them again. And then we know that these three fall below the line. >> How does our strategic plan fold into this with the community if at all? >> Your educational strategic plan >> for the districtwide strategic plan. >> Well, I mean my answer to that with is that this is an integral part of the strategic plan. point of how it's going to be highlighted in in this, you know, community discussion because we've put energy into the strategic plan and we we have that to as kind of basically what we're working from as a

088board um as we move forward, right? Um and so I'm not sure where that fits into what you're presenting and facilitating in the discussion. Well, I think that most districts use their long range facility plan as that part of their bigger strategic plan related to facilities, right? Um, you know, it and that gets folded into that plan. We have a you at the end of this process, you'll have a 10 15 year um plan that either needs to be funded through bond issues or capital dollars or means uh to meet those goals. So, yeah. Well, following up what Jeff has shared, I'd like to say maybe we could agree as a board tonight. There's three or four guard rails that we see that's going to have to be considered. The 50 million, declining enrollment, too

089many buildings. Those are three things that we've got to deal with. I think we say that's where we're at right now. We want community feedback how to relate to those. And I do kind of like where Jeff was going with that because that was in the previous bonds huge. It was we don't want a mill increase. We don't want any more taxes to pay because we're a highly taxed community. So if we know that we can go in and say we have 50 million, it does not impact you financially. That I think would also be huge and it it would draw the community in knowing that we're being intentional about not trying to raise or so. I don't know. I'm I'm 50/50 on whether we guard rail that is 50 million as our cap or

090we leave it. I I I would not guard rail that is you know people do change and as people are get a better explanation of things I think our other three bond issues were not sold at all and therefore contributed to the defeat and you know various reasons for each one of 50 million. Now that keeps us there, that's fine. But who to say that more than or less than 50% of our people given a good explanation and some input might not go 55 or something like that, which would be a minimal increase in terms. >> I'm just worried cuz the taxes went up. we already saw the backlash of that. I mean, not us personally, it didn't affect the board, but that was huge in the community. Um, so I think just messing when

091talking about needing additional funds out of the community members and the stakeholders, we might lose some people. That's that's what I'm concerned about. >> I gain some. >> I know there's always a wishful thinking. Yes. from your perspective, could the B could you go into into tomorrow's meeting without guard rails and be able to get get a sense of because I'm hearing the board say they really want community feedback and then could you go into it without that but then still find a way for the board to be able to and still put these guards or do you need that? I think a way to frame that conversation tomorrow night is very much how Bill said it except without caps. You know, the challenges of the district is we have declining enrollment. We have too

092many. We need to be very efficient in our dollars to run our school district. And we also need to be cognizant of the tax burden to do the plant, you know, and be very efficient in those dollars because we've heard in the past that too many taxes is too many taxes. >> Something like that. We can frame it in those that way. >> And that way they know that, you know, that we're not open to the piggy bank. We don't want to, you know, um, necessarily go crazy, but these are big concerns of the the board and that's what we've we've also, you know, we've seen that as well through our process here. Um, but without actually definitive, you know, like, hey, we got to do these things. >> How many committee meetings we have

093scheduled? >> We have uh three uh committee meetings and then a district-wide committee, a community meeting where everybody can come. >> The same committee. >> Yeah. The same committee. Yeah. All three. Yeah. And then that we'll do once we get more of a kind of a finite a plan or option, you know, like, hey, we got three options here that we've kind of come on. We like to bring everybody in and get that presented to them and hear their feedback. >> Well, the reason I accident maybe we'd get some direction after one meeting where's where we should go next. So the same group three meetings and then the bigger meeting who decid >> anybody that wants to come >> anybody that's >> anybody in the community the voters concerned you got 100 signed up 110

094I think is what she said I actually think it's 115 is the last number that I had so we had a little bit of a growth >> so we will not be a part of those meetings so how do we get reported on in between before the next one comes So if we were the general guard rails you're talking about if we need to refine it so your next meeting they can clarify more understanding. >> So we're not part of tomorrow's meeting. I was planning on going. >> My understanding was not we're not part >> we can be there to listen >> but >> we can be there to listen. We wouldn't participate. >> Yeah. You don't I choice on that. >> Yeah. So to be clear we did not set those as special meetings

095for the board. Right. What I think the a most appropriate way to handle it would be to to note who it is that would be going and which ones you'd be interested in going to and limit that to three people each time. >> I think that's a good idea. >> So if two are planning for example tomorrow then that would would allow one additional person. You don't have to decide that now but let me know and I can work with the folks on that. Um there's challenges that come with that. What advice would you have for board members if and when they attend tomorrow? >> Sometimes committee, sometimes they're on the committee, you know, and sometimes they're very neutral and they just want to sit in the back and listen to conversation. So, they want

096to hear it firsthand. They don't want to hear it through funnel through me. Um, you know, I've seen it all different ways. Um, but I think that um and they're people have questions. Say if they see you there, they're going to come and ask you, "What do you think? What do you think?" Um, so you got to be prepared for that too as well. Um, I I think I think it's a good thing. >> I'll tell you at a future board meeting. You got to be non-committal. But to Jeff, to answer your question, we we have two committee meetings scheduled before the next board workshop. I think it's a board workshop or a board meeting the 25th. We could do a uh we could do a little virtual one or something or we can find

097a little alter sh and he can distribute it those results to you however you want to do it. >> Yeah. I'm just thinking if you if you something occurred after the first one that we really need to be talking about before the second one second one do we call a special meeting I mean I'm I can do a noon hour or whatever if we needed a conversation >> my hesitency to go and and having done different meetings is that it even in strategic planning when we were doing that all of a sudden my table group is saying so what do you But what is it? What's the board been talking about in this? And it's hard to step out of that and just listen. Otherwise, I can shape the the thought of the table group

098and I don't want to do that. So that that's my desire to step back. So you're not looking to go talk to me or argue with me or whatever it might be about a point. I want to hear public and that. So, you know, for those of you that go as as Dwayne is saying, we got to be careful with how much we engage so we don't um you know, put too much of our inference in something. >> Do you have what you need from us for tomorrow? >> Well, uh let you want to pull the questions up. I think you >> are. Yes, sir. I just want to kind of go through some of the questions real quickly just to make sure there's nothing in there that you're like I don't we don't need

099to you know talk about that or you know I don't want I'm not saying that necessarily but do if you have any thoughts comments so we talked a little bit earlier I think somebody said something about the campus specific questions so we do have two high school specific questions you know like how is how important is it to preserve and monize roundhouse as part of the high school plan um is too specific about, you know, like, hey, that means we're keeping the roundhouse, we're keeping the high school. I don't know. >> Um, >> I like that. I mean, that's going to stimulate some. >> It will simulate conversation. >> You've opened it. you've asked it as a openended question which is important that hopefully that yields um many and maybe there's not many responses but

100I don't think it sets it as a specific yes no or we're saying we're doing to do something. >> Mhm. >> So will these questions come after you do the report parts? >> Yeah. We're going to we're going to go through and we're going to talk about every building, how it's scored, what we've observed as uh top priorities through the survey from staff and what we've observed personally. And then we'll give, you know, let's say like um uh Eisenhower uh these we've not, you know, the floors are deficient and we've have some water issues. Um you know, but it's got a great site, lots of parking. Uh you know, it's got these positives, it's got these negatives. It's got two rooms that can be built out for future growth. and we'll give them all that

101kind of data real quickly. We'll give them the good and the bad so they have some uh understanding of where we're at on each building. Is question five clear what we want there? >> Yeah. >> How should the district approach the elementary schools? I think so because he's going to report on all of the elementary schools and it lets the community decide should we consolidate? Do you think it's a good idea to keep the four? Like I think that one again would open up a lot of conversations of what creative ideas does do our stakeholders have. >> I really think that one could potentially lead to a good discussion >> and that number seven kind of starts to lead into that you know like is cuz one of the questions and I I just gave

102you the questions. I didn't give you their actually responses that they can choose from um because there's a lot get to that one number five. Oh, so these are you're going to have predisposed answers that they >> or other or other they can add to um so let me say like uh for looking forward how should the district approach elementary schools keep all open even with low low enrollment and added operating expense consolidate some to improve efficiency and programs convert some into early childhood or specialized program centers close and sell some buildings if needed. you have another or other. >> I don't like that. It's like we're narrowing it down again. We're It's not organic. Like you said earlier, it's it's kind of like the surveys that come out before. You only have A, B,

103and C to choose from, and those are your only options. So, I don't really feel like we're getting true answers if we're predetermining their answers. So, maybe I don't >> maybe I'm thinking way too much into that, but I just don't like I guess what I would ask is what would be another >> just to let them answer. So is this these questions is this a table group conversation or is this an each individual is >> with with 115 people we were thinking about doing it as a a phone poll. >> Okay. >> So there would be a QR code >> I would be seeing these options and they would it'd be just me. I would be talking to Tai and Perry. It's so it's not like >> but there will be there will be

104organic conversations at the table. There always is and then we will ask um you know I'll go around and I'll say why did you what did you say was your top priority for this question and then they'll stand up and say I think it's this and another person might say this and that way they kind of start to see what the room is feeling too. Uh we like to doing it that way. It kind of creates a little bit of an even playground cuz sometimes at a table conversation um people can get intimidated to say what they really believe, but when it's on a phone and they're answering by themselves, they don't feel like that somebody at the table is influencing in that conversation. >> Has that component of the need for a device been

105communicated effectively? Because I know one of the community meetings where phone poles were used, folks left their phones, didn't have their phones, and didn't have capacity to understand how to use their >> we'll recommunicate out to folks. >> You want to make sure that prepared to be able to um access if if this is the route that being used um that takes a little bit. So there might be some need for helping individuals. I know at one I helped folks get to the right site. Yeah, we've we've done that as well. We had to go around and get people to do it. But having the bones is important. They know that. >> Well, I agree with giving them some options. But they do have >> I kind of liked how Dr. Hart did it when

106he came in and did the strategic plan. It was basically just thrown up there and then he went back and consolidated everything and pulled out the high priorities. So maybe the second one could be these are the options that came out of the first conversation, we've narrowed it down. Now these are your pools. I don't think limiting them to options right off the get-go is going to get us where we want to be. Cuz I know like if I come into it and be like, "Oh, well it's already predetermined. These are my only options. I can say other, but who's to say you're going to listen to my other option?" So, I would prefer it just number one. This is the question, you answer it, and then we going to have 115 answers, but what

107what do we pull out of that as the top five? >> I think if we did it that way, I would probably do it at the table and have people at the table with sticky notes and they could write down what their thoughts were on that. U that way cuz otherwise texting, you know, typing on a phone, you know, actually trying to write sentences and thoughts is hard. uh we might do it that way >> because that's just how Dr. Mark did our >> then you're capturing themes um across and allowing for our stakeholders that are agreed to be a part of the process um to give us some really maybe things that we just haven't even considered yet um I think is can be helpful. >> Do do they do we need some prompting

108though? So I'm looking at like question seven early childhood classrooms be. So if I were sitting with a group I would probably look and say what are they asking? >> Yeah. Well when when I frame that question we'll give them some kind of so that's but again when you start to do that you've already kind of start put something in their mind right. Um, >> so what if you just said how do you foresee early childhood in the future and get their ideas of where they see early childhood, where do they see it progressing, >> do they see it facilitywise or do they see it educationally, right? >> Where are they looking at >> and that's the answers we could get out of it and then we know they more talk more facility we know

109to put that into the facility category or we get five we could funnel it that way and see what our topics are. So the three the three questions are answered or choices that they have right now and they're defined as spread across multiple school schools which they are now converted to one early childhood center with the ability to expand in the future the programs uh repurpose into a community to daycare solution. You know that would be a different kind of a thing together. That was a a struggle when to come up with the right because it does start to lead and you only have three there too. But I think it also needs a little guidance. It's a hard question. You know, most people are gonna be like, >> well, I need a little bit

110of education because which you'll have done through the building report cards, but some people unless >> especially if they have some people may have had a prek kiddo in our system and not even understand >> how it works or >> and they may not have for that reason they may not have an understanding for how anyone else does it. So that might be >> Yeah. And and that's it. You know, some of these could actually be pulled. I mean, we have 13 questions or 12 questions right now. I thought we had 13. Um, you know, today because we only have an hour and a half. >> We only have an hour and a half to do this. Yeah, I do. >> Um, we could also eliminate some say, you know, we can revisit these topics

111or they might come up naturally through the norm >> and then those become our poll questions. >> Yeah. So your the number 10 question if resources are limited the district should can there I'm just wondering if resources are unlimited the district would >> yeah so like >> because we get a different response on the unlimited versus limited which are both important. It gives me another piece of information that would be unlimited I think for the board to see some other priorities maybe that we don't recognize when they hear dollar mark. >> Okay. >> I don't know. I just put that out there for discussion. >> So I'm pausing here for a minute. So when we selected your firm you have a very high success rate. >> Mhm. and you've engaged with a lot of different

112communities. >> Are we tampering with something if we pull back from your method? I I'm just asking that because >> I know you want to design around us, >> but we also we hired you because we need help >> and we really need to know how to connect with our community. I think the the important thing that makes us successful is trying to be unbiased as we possibly can. And that's a struggle for me as an architect because I'm paid to come up with solutions. So, it's a it's a struggle sometimes to be unbiased about it. uh but it's also not to um you know let people and that's why I think there's an importance to have guidance from the elected officials who can you know have to say I was elected by uh the

113community to help guide but also not to say this is what we're doing. It's a real fine line and I think that as long as we're staying in that range and the the process, we're going to get the same information. However process we do it, but you know your community better than I do and you know what you've been through in the last ones. I wasn't here. So, I think that's why this is a really valuable conversation to hear, you know, like, oh yeah, Dwayne, you are you're kind of leading them now again and you're doing this that we've had problems with. people have commented on before cuz that's really valuable information for us to help guide that process to make sure it is open and honest and and people don't feel like they're being

114pushed in a direction. But, you know, the reality is, as Billy eloquently said, there are real issues that we have to tackle through this process. And I don't think it's wrong to say those because everybody needs to live in a reality, right? There's a reality, but at the same time, you got to be real careful about how you say it. Um, and you know, there's there's a a question up here like where should the district office be located? You know, that's a tough one to I mean because district off you want a f bond issue, spend a minute on district office. >> You know, that's the quickest way to do it. But it's it's something that needs to be talked about honestly and openly. You know, is this the right approach? You know, this building

115has needs, too. It doesn't work effectively uh the way it is today. So does that mean through this process if we do something somewhere that that opens up an opportunity for something here? You know, how do the all the parts kind of start to come come together to a total plan? And that's kind of why we put it in here cuz we'd like to put that on people's radar that this is something that also potentially be addressed through this process because we do have capacity square foot capacity in the district. Uh, anybody have any thoughts about that? >> I think it's good. I think it would be interesting to see people's answers. Again, I'm just all for the open end. At this point, I want to see what the community thinks and and how they

116think. >> It just it's a lot. It's transparency. It's knowing that we are listening to them and their voice matters in the early stages and they're not predetermined with what we because they're going to say we did it and I just don't want that perceived notion out there. >> Yeah. And I think that's the biggest issue that we have to try to avoid and that and I will introduce that question almost just like how I did it with you or Aaron will. >> So with that then what Chelsea's offering there we wouldn't do the the device thing. >> I think I think I like the idea of doing it and everybody just does it on a you know we'll get some sticky pads and they can write down what their thoughts are and question six.

117I think you should do this. So then you know if you do the other we can see immediately the result when you ask that question this many >> how will you tabulate off of sticky notes and groups so that we have >> report back we're actually hearing what we what we'll say. >> So this is this is the downside of it. Somebody's got to type all those in and I'll give it to somebody in my office. Then they'll type every one of those into a spreadsheet and then we can run that through some software and kind of start to get themes or we'll manually see start the themes see themes. You'll it'll all be public just like the survey information we get from facilities. Uh you'll start to see themes people will start to and

118then we can start to act on those themes and rank things. Yeah. >> So it'd be important for us to see the raw information as much as the themes. I take it I take pictures of all the sticky notes. Yeah. I lay them all on take pictures. >> He'll you'll actually if it's you and one other member of your staff 100 plus you just logistically trying to think how you capture all that and go. >> So we put the big white things up and you put sticky note on question number one and everyone's answer goes up on there. >> Yeah. With 115 people at the sticky notes. So I think we'll just pick them up. We'll just go around tables and pick them up or have them stack them up in a nice pile of

119table of course. We'll work on that tomorrow and let you see some of that. >> But I like that. That's great. I like that approach. >> Thank you for your flexibility and hearing how we want to really engage with um the the community and and how we can navigate through this process and and understand what's best um and get to that end end goal for us. I think that's super important that that people feel like they're listened to, engaged, um, considered, and and and well, we've talked about it several times. I think hopefully we get some people who voted no last time because we want to hear why they, you know, what their real feelings are about it so we can come up with a solution there, real support. >> I do have a really

120quick question. You sent out this invites. What if people are we checking off the people who have RSVP or what if people just show up? Are we turning them away or are they going to be welcome? >> Um I you know we opened it up for the entire public to let us know if they were interested and we opened it up for the entire staff to let us know whether they were interested. Some submitted to that a number of them did probably close to 40ome. So um I would anticipate those who have I guess I wouldn't expect too many. >> Right. I'm just saying if somebody would just happen to show up, are we going to allow them enters in an RSVP? I don't I don't know the room. I don't know how >> we

121asked them to RSVP so that we were prepared to know who not necessarily who but yes, we want to know who's but also to know the count. So, >> um I would think we have no problem. We're not going to check a roll or anything sign. We do not want them to actually sign in. We want people to feel like they're not being tracked that way. Even though we did electronic poll, we don't track who the poll person was. We want to be anonymous and truthful. Um, so if they're more people are welcome and through this process, not everybody's going to be able to meet, you know, so we're going to get some tomorrow night and the next time we're going to get a subset and more people that didn't come the first one and

122then we have to bring them up to speed and >> and really to the board's knowledge what we've tried to capture is those who were exactly that that was part of the RSVP was which of the ones we recognize you know schedules are are you know very hectic. So we we have at least those who are SVP these are the ones that I can come to and not surprising there's plenty that can come to all three but there there was a significant number that hey I'll make it to these two I won't be able to make it to the third their question is you know can I still participate the answer is absolutely come and participate and dive in >> I will say this from a from for this group my time doing this we've

123not had a group um RSVP and have this large anybody like a size of 115 is I think an extremely um positive data point that you should all be proud of because we've not been able to pull that size of a group together >> and we saw that in the staff surveys too. The amount of responses we got on staff surveys was really good indication when we get that kind of involvement that's a good sign. >> That's a great sign. >> Yeah. Good. >> How many did we have in the strategic planning process? >> Wasn't it 40 or 50? It was a little bit different because we wanted to target we were targeting around 60. So it was a little bit different of a scenario because I think 60 or 70 is what we targeted

124and we had about that many um but then some f or let me say that we had about that many who initially expressed interest but then we weren't able to have like you said I think we have about 50. I think it's important that those listening and are checking this later that they know that because they didn't RSVP that they are welcome to any of these meetings. We want to hear um voices and the information to help us uh continue to move forward. >> It's a public meeting for free to come. >> Absolutely. But hearing the RSVP can make you feel like oh wait a minute I didn't get invited so am I. But we want to just make sure that the public is are aware that it's >> and that's why it's good to

125have that community meeting too that broad one. It's just like it feels like everybody feels like well I want to be a part of the process but I don't know if I want to be that part I want to say it some point that gives them that opportunity too. >> I do I do just want to reiterate just for clarification sake on that that is it is for that exact reason that we sent that out for everybody in our community. DMing the board needs to be aware that that was an intentional effort to basically say anybody out there who's reading this social media post, anyone out there that's gets our uh staff email, anybody out there that's a parent or a guardian, please sign up. And we had a tremendous response back on that. So,

126hey, I think it's just worth you worth you knowing. We we put this out there and you also had a good response and had a lot of parents and guardians sign up since, which is great. in advance. We anticipate um that work that's coming with the great participation that we anticipate and you're facilitating that. >> And just for my own clarification, we're at the community building. Right. >> Right. >> I know it's different locations each time. I want to make sure I go to the right one. >> Me, too. >> Shiloh, are you going to introduce Mr. Cash >> tomorrow? Yes. I just don't think he should show up. And I think that's that's a key point too is that when we do these, we try to make it really clear that we are facilitators

127of this conversation. We're not leading this conversation. You know, we're just here to to facilitate and to take the information back and an analyze it. We are not here to lead the conversation. We're not, you know, so we we'll try to really drive that in every meeting. I would assume even though you're being introduced by Dr. Vincent, you want to push him to the back so that you can have that. >> Not necessarily. Not necessarily cuz there will be standing up there and leading a process that needs to be. >> He won't be upfront, but there will be questions that people will ask that I will not be able to answer that I'll want Shiloh to answer. There'll be questions about something I have no idea about that he'll be able to answer that. So,

128it's important that he's there, but yet not leaving the process. >> You could point out to you didn't get to vote. >> It's true. I mean, we make the decision not, >> right? Yeah. >> Somebody going to be picky about that. You can put >> Yeah. None of us do. >> The other thing I'd like to suggest, I hope you will do that when you go through your data. I was really pleased to hear you say that every building had a real positive culture. Our community needs to hear that. >> Yeah. >> Because I know one of the last ones that was often thrown up to me. >> Yeah. I think we we've definitely seen that that there is really good culture. We not a one of them. And you saw that in the survey

129response cuz that's passion. People don't take time to do surveys. I get survey requests all the time and I don't do it unless I'm passionate about it. Uh, so I think that's a really good indication right there. Then we just the comments we got reinforce that. >> Yeah, I mean we share that. >> We will we will >> not to put you on the spot and you do not have to answer right now. I was just curious what was the percentage of staff >> feedback like how what percentage of our staff answered the survey >> in that? >> You don't have to answer. >> Yeah, but it's over 50%. It was like 70% I think uh of 400 people it was I think we had um 280 or something. I can't remember exactly. It's pretty

130darn good. It was really good. Really good. We had 290 responses. 290 responses in the total is 440 or something like that. That's Yes. in that neighborhood. >> Incredible. >> You have it in your school. >> I I always when we get asked, do we also have McFersonen County special education class numbers in there and they sit over in in men or something like that? I don't know that they probably >> Well, I'm excited. Thank you. You bet. >> Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. appreciate all the good information. >> Good luck tomorrow. >> Okay, we'll move to 6.1 disposition of minutes. Just as a reminder, those items are there. Um it is provided by Mr. Roads. Clerk's report. The reminder for the board, this is what we'll track or beyond your tracking is going to

131be and it's current and it's based on your uh budget do or budget budgeted numbers. So you're going to we always obviously want to make sure that we're seeing those numbers trend about the same. We see that here. So this is very early on in the year though. So, um, we will continue to to track that and and monitor it over the course of the, uh, year. Uh, payment of bills. I had a a question about one of the payments to, I believe it was at Washington, um, where there was a reimbursement um, what ultimate uh, to PTO, if I remember right, there was a payment that was supposed to be paid It was a district item got purchased. Um, and it was one of those deals where they paid inadvertently paid it out at

132PTO for something unrelated to PTO. So, there was a reimbursement back to PTO so the so that we could or to cover that cost. Um, other than those items, we just have a couple items to end and then we have a couple executive sessions. So, Motion to approve routine items. Second. >> Any other discussion? >> All in favor? Any name? Yes. >> Any oppose for the no? 5 Z. Thank you. >> Any future items there? >> Yeah, just a reminder, obviously long range planning will continue an audit report. We'll be working with Lloyd Group on getting that to us. uh soon. Um just as a reminder, I I shared that already, but it's related to the it was initially related to the to the uh federal language of the audit. Um so that'll be coming

133here in the next month or so. And of course, student success uh data as I shared earlier. Announcements. Just as a reminder, we have parent teacher conferences coming up here in October. Uh so we'll have a work day on the 10th of October and then the week of the 13th we will have parent teacher conferences and then those two days 16th and 17th are off. But um just as a reminder for you as a board just uh be cognizant of the workshop uh that was I believe an existing workshop. Uh my technically we called it a workshop on here but your regular meeting is on there but we will have facility conversation at that. Uh and then the 20th will be the third round of the um community meeting. So uh followed by the 27th.

134So, it will be, just so you're aware, Halloween before you know it. And then we will skip right over to Christmas cuz that seems like that's how it goes. But, uh, short of that, uh, we would just be looking to transition into one of our first executive sessions. And I would say 10 minutes. Oh, you need a break first. >> No, I just have a really quick question. Yeah. um with the 115 potentially more people, are we going to be able to accommodate that at the middle school for the third session? >> So Dan, thank you. The question there is what theund with the 115. That's part of the reason that we started at the community building. So we may end up doing something different for even the next ones depending on how those go.

135Thank you for that. I just noticed I was like that's now that I know there's a lot of people I'm like cool we have this space. Yeah, we we could certainly do the auditorium at the middle school as an option on the 20th, but part of the reason we started with the we knew we could accommodate hundreds at the community building, so we started there and um so we'll keep we'll monitor that. Qu question on based on the motions that were passed tonight in dealing with the temporary flooring is there any potential for a need of a special meeting to >> if there is I'll communicate with Dr. and we would get that call. Okay. Basically that's a two-day office. Yeah, I believe you have a two-day notice and technically you can wave it, but

136we would we would seek to to notify you in advance. >> So, we may need a special meeting though around negotiations. I mean, depending on where things go with teachers. >> We'll talk about that momentarily, but yeah, you something was to come up. If there was an update that could occur, it would occur could occur. questions. >> I'm going to say 15 minutes. That going to be enough or 10.1? >> 3 8.1. >> Let's do 10 uh minutes. So, that'll bring us to right at 8. Actually, just do that. Call it 11 minutes and we'll reconvene. >> Motion to go into executive session to discuss an individual employee pursuant to the nonelected personnel exception under the Kansas open meeting act and who and the open meeting will resume in the board meeting at 8:00. The

137executive session will include board superintendent, assistant superintendent, and the executive director of special education. All in favor say yes. >> Let's get door A. You get derby. [Music] Hey, hey, hey. [Music] [Applause] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. [Music] Heat. [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] Heat up here. Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] Heat. Heat. Heat. [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] Heat. Heat. Heat. [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] Heat. Heat. [Music] [Applause] [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] And then we'll need a motion to go into negotiations. How long you need that? >> 15. Mr. Rhodess. >> 15. >> You think 15? Actually, you might need a break. >> Five minute break in between 85. >> We're going to take a brief break for 5 minutes. Rejoin at 8:05. [Music] We're back and Okay, we're back

138from our break. Um, I'm going to offer that we a motion to go into executive session to discuss proposals being considered to contract negotiations with teachers pursuant to the exception for employee employer employee negotiations under the Kansas Open Meetings Act. And the open meeting will resume in the board room at 8:20. The executive session will include the board superintendent, assistant superintendent, executive director of special education. >> All the people second. All in favor say yes. >> Yes. Carries 5. Thank you. [Music] Heat. [Music] [Applause] [Music] Heat up here. [Music] Heat. Heat. N. [Music] [Applause] Heat. Heat. [Music] [Applause] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] Heat. Heat. N. [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] on the [Music] down on. Friday. That's fine with me.

139>> And do we have the option? We could do a Zoom. We can >> uh Interestingly, um after >> we'll have to host it here, but you you can have some members call in, but the meeting itself would have to be hosted. I >> say if you could if Laura couldn't be here, she could call in at least. Would it would it potentially be uh that we found out any more information? >> I was making sure this back up. I apologize. What was the question, Mr. Perry? whether you could potentially be ready on the gym floor satisfied with your answers. So you think that was so that be the goal, but I wouldn't let that influence whether or not you host this because it's obviously much needed. So I think my goal would be to

140shoot for that, >> but I wouldn't let that determine what schedule. >> No. >> So we live now. >> We running So, do you need a motion to set a special meeting? I move we set a special meeting in the board at 12 noon Friday. Is that the 19th? >> The 19th. >> Let me just repeat that since your mic's not on. Jeff moved to have a special meeting on Friday, September 19th at noon. >> I second. >> Any other discussion? >> Um Oh, go ahead. I do have to put in there. >> You're okay to set it as you've done. You're good to set it. >> If we don't need it, you'll notify cancellation. >> Yes. Okay. >> Correct. All in favor say yes. >> Yes. >> Any oppose for the no? There is

1415 Z. So, we have a special meeting tentatively. Well, it's scheduled and then we'll update you if that meeting is not needed on Friday at noon the 19th of September. And with that, I thank you for the good discussions and the work tonight and we'll adjourn the meeting. >> Thank you all. Thank you. [Music]