3/12/25 BOE Meeting

001e e e ordering an approving of agenda we are going to move 7.1 three to 2.1 yes and she doesn't have to stay here all night and consent agenda 3.7 retirement of personnel 3.8 accept donation from Charlotte's litter and we have some additions to 4.2 employment of personnel yes anything else no noove motion all fa okay uh 2.1 VIP just get moved up right see look how far I moved you up from to may not my name is I'm the director for special education for education which ofes s and five of districts but I'm not sure what exactly what would you like anything specific so i' I've asked Caroline to come and talk a little bit about the new program we're recommending here at Scranton for the 25 26 school year um I've briefed you

002a little bit on some Capital outlay changes we um are recommending um but I thought she could give you just kind of an overview of what the program is um students we would serve and maybe kind of the future what that could look like um as well as uh any questions you guys just might have for her but really we would like to then approve uh the draft mou I know at that time I left a um blank in some of the the costs associated with that um as far as rent utilities custodial needs is but her and I have since kind of chatted a little bit and I do have a recommendation that I'll present to you as well on that and Amy put that in front of you so you have a blank

003draft on that part but then there's some new numbers we added in there it's on the back of your ads here sorry it's this one okay so we'll talk about all that but I thought we'd let her at least tell us a little bit about the program uh how this will work and then we can talk a little bit more about the that sound okay uh so like side it kind of came around it has to do with um you know we were trying to to come up with a way to provide uh really good uh individualized intensive uh services to to a group of students that you know apply significant need within the co um you know right now we have a special programs committee that have been meeting on a regular basis uh

004and we've really kind of identified that there could be between you know eight and 10 students uh that could need these these Services um it the the idea or the you say Mission or vision would be to provide a comprehensive compassionate and individualized special program for students and it would be serving PRK through 12 um and it be with the most significant C of needs and disabilities and they also would include some behavioral challenges and so that's that's a key component that this it's for the you know Behavior challenges know at the end of the day we really want to keep students inside their home buildings I mean with their you know where their peers are um but there are some students that just need very intense specialized instru you know instruction in order to

005make the progress that that they need um so because at the end of the day we want them to be the most independent individuals that they can be out in society when they when they move on and they graduate um I don't know if you have any other questions on the specific what we be looking at I mean we be looking at um if starting next year we were projecting somewhere about six to eight to start uh we'd be looking at two classrooms one that would be preap five the other would be grades 6 through 12 uh and so we would be looking at having two certified teachers and then having as a specialist so it' be kind of like the specializ facilitator Behavior specialist but it' be someone who's really focus on autism structured

006teaching uh it would you know and provide a lot of intensive support there we would also be looking at Behavior technicians so it would be one to one um with the students with a behavior Tech role and and that would allow for I mean things like if someone's sick if someone's gone or if a student in crisis and needs you know we need to have two or three adults with those students so if you're looking at a projected of let's say six students uh as far as cost wise Have you shared any of that with them okay no all right so um for the staffing estimate piece if you were I'm going to give you kind of a range okay um I'll you know the the local or the after you know our categor delade

007after that reimbursement piece if we were to have to hire all new staff to the co-op for this program we're estimating the total Co-op cost would be around $260,000 now that's after again reimbursement piece so that would be a Santa Fe Trail share in the ballpark of about 81,500 you know approximately now if as we're looking across the Staffing pieces you know is with the co-op so Michelle direct there is a POS possibility on on some of these positions that we'll be able to offer transfers okay so best case scenario um the total cost would be about 86,000 715 for the for the for the co-op right which would be a Santa Fe Trail share of about 27,000 okay and so so I would say it's safe to assume that somewhere in that you know

008in between there would be a safe but that's that's the range that's and that would be those would be ongoing salary costs and that's assuming we have six students uh because if there's a seven seventh or eight you're looking at another Behavior check the thing to keep in mind with that um most of these students most all of them that we be looking at already are either one to one or we already got two pairs with them right now okay so so those those are not necessarily new calls okay um any questions on the staff in portion Staffing cost does it make sense how that you're probably wondering why are we paying for Staffing so they get a certain amount right in percentage in categorical Aid and then the rest of that percent goes off

009in our assessment for the six districts to and share that where are these students now in our in our schools throughout all six districts so we just have staff with these kids at our districts so is that that do we employ those staff members now no okay so three LS does okay gotcha all these people would be three L people none of them are USD 434 or Lon or Os so the numbers that you provided then aren't necessarily the increas in cost that's just the cost that you're predicting okay do you and that was that's okay I can share that I can share that with them yeah I do okay so did you look at this last night yeah yeah yeah and that was my question to make sure that you know we weren't adding

010new stuff here and leaving this stuff that's working with the currently no yeah we no um it if it is a so if it is I have a tendency to if you were working with me I call it Mickey Mouse so Mickey Mouse is my student so Mickey Mouse were or a student here at Santa Fe Trail and then the IEP team just said okay recommended lside so if that Mickey Mouse had a pair already one to one with we would be asking that Tera you know you know we're going to recommend a transfer you know and so that if they choose not to transfer then at that point unless there's an opening somewhere else in the co-op that position would then I they would have to go with them so I guess that's that's

011where I I I kind of explained it but I guess that's where I'm at a law so three L is paying for the staff now if they transfer over here then why would we pick up the Staffing no we wouldn't we're not that's why there's a range oh you're talking about if you hire the new teachers and behavioralist so we have additional people okay okay so like kind of The Program Coordinator would be a new that would be a new okay so there's a couple new positions that will come with this some will be absorbed from other spots um some will be transferred so there will be some absorption but there could be new ones too depending on how many kids we get and one of them will be the program coordinator who will oversee

012the the whole program you're saying our cost is X dollar because we're 33% of your budget and Catal a does not pay for an entire staff memb salary benefits and everything that cost in that percentage offsets to The Coop which is what our assessments are about and I didn't give you the total because there's a I mean I did give you a total of local okay so you've got um that's so much easier visual um you've got a total cost so the total cost for these nine projected employees you know and again that's that's total total is like around 4 426,000 but there's a categor piece okay State reimbursement so that once you and I'm using the estimate that's in here that that has a cop is using the estimates that were provided for this

013school year so those are always subject to change by the state so that would then go to 260,000 okay once you take that into account we will be transferring some positions I mean there will be some positions that will go um I just there there's I'm projecting there's least three that's very likely to be needed one is that behavor Specialist or like side the program specialist and then very possibly two Behavior techs but but but other than that I expect four Behavior Tech positions are not new they're they're going to come from you know with students and then the teaching roles I think I can absorb from other areas yeah and this is to help build capacity here to also help avoid possible recommendations for them to be at like Mary or other places that

014also cost a lot of money so and build the capacity here in our own district for our own kids and our own students so um part of that is unforeseen costs in the future that are possible as well and so are these kids I mean they're going to be here all day it's not like a half day program or anything it's all so what are we doing for like food services that is that is a discussion that we're still having one deliver deliver over okay I just know what would for the safety of the students that are in the building are PR that's probably the most important so we've been working on getting some estimates uh we are as a part of this proposal we're proposing uh a putting of a two some fire doors

015okay so right there um you know J room is Julie's room right there and and putting uh there' be a wall with fire doors so that that would separate that Hall over here uh from the preschool um the other piece is with with the restrooms we're proposing uh two single uh user restrooms we're also proposing that one of the single user restrooms have a standing shower as well so that right now and again this is this will have to go out to bid uh for these but the the rough estimate is somewhere between 65 and 85,000 for that that's for the three lengthes to pay so the P you know if it were closer to the 85,000 range the the share the local assessment sh betrayal would be just over 26,000 for the one time

016here can you share how much it would be if we had to send the students I just feel like it's important to know way over there the doors well the doors will be they will stay locked so students because what if a preschooler wanders over there I'm not saying that we're not so you know how we can't get in that door because it's locked so I assume essentially you have another one on that side where they can't get in from the outside like School my question is that going to go both ways you know we have to have a key to un loock it there's a safety issue too push out and go there has to be two exits leave so the intent is that they it will not be locked uh at least that's

017the the conversation and Thoughts with our special teams program we wanted the fire doors because uh some of these do Lo um but if we're not utilizing doors they stay shut being in is most of these students just they'll they're going to assume that the doors won't open okay these this is also why when you look at this we have if we have six students we're talking about nine staff members for these six students so it's it is um none of the students would be left alone for any time at all um in this program so um it will be highly St so this um the other the question sorry cost to S um yes it is if you set someone for the entire year really it does depend on the level of the student

018because they kind of sliding fee at Lake Mary but it's roughly and that's just the tuition piece is around 110,000 per student uh for the year that does not include the cost of Transportation which is on the district um it would also most almost always the students roer requirement car or a par that's going to ride so you'd have to have a vehicle that's pretty well dedicated you know solely to go to the to this umary you know twice a day uh you have to have a driver and then we would have to have a par that's riding that on top of that um and so and then the tuition cost so so it's it's it's for the most part when you're looking at the net cost here um it would be about like sending

019two students to Lake Mary we could do about six years so a um have you spoken to the other schools in the co-op are they like on board with this as well okay so transportation for that how what is that going to look like to get the kids from the different each district is responsible for bringing their students um the other option is parents can choose to drive but otherwise it's the district's local responsibility so would we do like busing yeah okay so they okay we already bus it's the same way like my thought is it's really going to give those kids our most intense KS the the support they need and it will be all in one place I it's hard work and I like and in turn in the buildings I feel like

020you know those resources aren always right and I feel like if there's crisis you know with these kids in building that takes away from all the other that's not that's kind of a question I had too then when with you saying that because I know sometimes if an issue comes up you know like where we have to take the rest of the kids out of the classroom you know and that takes away classroom time like how what I guess how do you determine what kids come to side sure well they we are working on finding the criteria that some of the things uh that are and and school sites are involved in this as well on the crer as well as facilitators so some of the things that we would be looking at um I

021mean you know yes we' be looking for cognitive or IQ we're also looking at adaptive skills uh which are things like your you know your daily living skills your ability [Music] to feed yourself things like that but but honestly the major thing the big thing that's um I guess that's sa it's like is the student uh most most of the students um that are throughout the coop that we are looking at are already in a room by themselves with two to three of um so we are running uh very um I these rooms are already highly I mean highly staffed as it is so you know by coming into a program here it provides support not only for the students but provides support for the staff um and and these students would actually be able

022to be around some other students rather than being safy is number one you know whether it's whether it's students that are getting other students whether it's students that uh building that they're running um those are that is the tget population and at the end of the day I mean we the hope is um to teach them skills teach staff strategies be able to eventually bring them back that would be sorry the calls like uh if somebody's calling meeting to get their student is that going to go through our office or are you just going to have your own phone lines and things if they need assistance we would have our own phone I mean they we can with Frameworks that we have um which we haven't talked about phon but we with our day school

023we do still that's at Burling right now we keep all the phones so that if a parent needs to call they call fre legs and it gets transferred over to the classroom now there are other ways to do it but that's you know that's one op things like if we're talking about like you know this C use a lot of you know copy paper it's going use a lot of card stock and use a lot of all of those things purchase um capacity like what let's say we think there six what if right now our cap I mean uh our cap is six and six in each classroom that would be the cap um that's that but however for next year I I you know realistically I don't know we do over eight next year

024because we need to get it off the ground we need to get the staff properly trained um and if we right away that be we're currently we don't have any that are going to Lake Mary right right now this year no we did have a there was three that came up for consideration this year um and it at the moment we've got some other things in place um I will say this that you have a School site currently in the another District that is currently acting as a teacher and has this December because of the sity the needs so with that I now you know that's put more work on on the other school sites um and and taking that person commission we' got a right here I mean even in San Trail we have

025a facilitator that's acting as a teacher as well part of the time to provide supports that are needed you have a question about the program concerns worries my My worry is just the safety of our preschoolers yeah and I've talked with all the preschool teachers about it you know our doors lock um we'll have that fire door there we'll run operations in a different way um so none of them seemed overly concerned I think with the amount of Staffing and adults we have me are already in our schools now um with kids all day every day um this is not something we're not used to I these kids are our students we already they're already here with us so I don't want it to feel like that's um something we're not already capable of managing

026because we already do um yeah I I understand I think my biggest thing is these are our littlest most vulnerable students yeah you know we're not talking about putting them at the high school where kids can stick up for themselves we're talking about putting 12th graders prek yeah but I mean they're not going to be together um they also have they also have two adults in all their rooms or more two classrooms have three adults the other two have two adults um they're small class sizes our preschoolers aren't elopers you know they're not out of the classroom by themselves they don't go to the bathroom by themselves they don't go to ress by themselves they don't even walk from the gym to their classrooms in the morning by themselves um they have 100% adult supervision

027at all times um and I did I I I knew that would be a concern but I I talked to 35 actually you talk with the district office stff about it um so does this increase our liability at all as far as um in being on our premises if something were to happen students of other districts uh well just in general you know if something were to happen with uh staff member getting injured or um well those liabilities are uh we would be we we carry um liability insurance and all those we operate and we add we're already operating here okay uh at at Scranton but we would make adjustments to our insurance coverage for grant for the staff that are here the other thing I would kind of point out and and I know

028it's kind of scary thinking about you know you mentioned a 12th grader um with with iol people and so they uh and and yes is there concerns there yes please keep in mind that this the student population we're talking about is not typical high school student and yes there are behaviors you know I can't with I I don't say anything with 100% any kind of certainty okay because I can't guarantee anything 100% however I will say that I the students are that would be there or highly un likely to be having malicious intent due to the student population we're talking about the other piece uh is is that the staff members we're talking about um will receive not most of them that are that were the staff I'm actually having mind already have F the

029training a lot of experience um and they are and the ones that would be new or get get that training additional training but so if you had let's say had three students in this one classroom you're you're already going to have at least four adults with those three students at all times so if for some reason the student manag to get into the Hall there would be automatically two ads going out with them that student deserve have them eyes on the students at all times as they disc correct all of the students we're talking about General students principles any insights or thoughts on this because you guys are already I think this is a wonderful direction to go for kids um they they can be um just a program can be specialized for them much

030more so than trying to um develop more academic skills than um be managing behaviors and functional skills um those could be managed elsewhere and then we could really focus on the more academics in the building so I think it's a great idea yeah um I have worked in a in a building where um this type of a program was housed um in and among K5 gen EG classrooms and um I mean some some fifth graders are bigger than a lot of us and there weren't there weren't um big um situations that impacted the safety of the kindergarteners at that time so it's really good for kids um I will say that I don't currently have any students qualify for this program however in the past we have had some volatile situations in our building um

031in which we didn't necessarily have the trained staff that we would need and so um until we could get that student the help that they needed on a daily basis um it P A fed teacher to Paris myself and the counselor out of our everyday regular needs with students um so that we can ensure that that student had their needs met um so I think a specialized program in this area is is very much appreciated and and deserved for those kids I also will say um I am in agreeance with Caroline on that elopement part most of the time when those doors are shut those those kids won't hit past those doors um I know locking them we can't do that because of fire issues and stuff but I will tell you as a staff

032member um and I don't I'm and what they'll probably have radios and systems and all those things when that happens in our building so if we have an issue like that um that's what we do we hit those fire doors and we close them and we have a staff member standing on one side and a staff member at the others and we have our radio so that is how we handle it currently in our general education building so I don't know if you want to speak to experiences in our building uh I I would definitely agree with this this is an opportunity where you program for students that have these specific needs and this is an opportunity to run a system more effectively and efficiently with the resources available so you can have Staffing with

033specialized training that can support a multitude of kids throughout the Cooperative in one setting and provide the resources and setting that's appropriate for them uh versus like our building is I would say is not overly well equipped at this point in time for uh the needs of some of these students so this I think is a great opportunity my concern is not not I just want to be very clear my concern is not the program I think the program is wonderful it's it being here with the presol it is 100% being here with our preschoolers and my other thought is you know what is what do we call that building out front in front of the high school what is that being used for you know is that would that be a more suitable fit

034where we have to make less um modifications to the building uh it's not nobody else is in that building sure you know that's my biggest concern is is this the most suitable fit that's in the co-op for these students it's not if the programs the program is needed and we've looked at some other spaces um yeah we've talked about Burling um moving you know taking over more of that space um I will say my concern with the the building you mentioned in that building um you know right at the moment the you know there would be no specific admin there just specifically for this program uh dayto day uh Michelle H and myself would be the admin on call for it so the one good thing about being here is in a you know you

035know Michelle and I could be anywhere 15 to 30 minutes away um so the good thing is you know be here some of the time as well there be other adults in case of an unforeseen you know issue we put it in that other building there would be no other I mean it would be literally just those those individuals and that actually just spoke to my exact concern unforeseen issues yeah but like I said I can't I can't I mean in education as a whole absolutely and I can't and I can't um I can't say with 100% as I mentioned before that there would be never be an an incident crisis of some sort um I don't I I truly don't believe they'll go past fire doors just you know because they'll see it as

036a wall um that doesn't mean they can't okay I won't sit here and say that that that won't occur okay uh but all the students I like I said in in buildings um there are programs they mentioned the program that was in a K5 building there are some districts across the the state that have pre through eight buildings um and we'll have programs that are inside these buildings um Pittsburgh does keep some some of these high intense programs inside their buildings as well Caroline this just students in question that you think might be appable to this program do you know their grade levels I do are they all high school students are they rang anything from about kind in first grade till about 9th well safety being the concern it's got of number one concern

037right safety so you're saying that's dependent on you said three students to four staff members what's your challenge if somebody call in six now there's three 3 to three instead of four to three so how's that I mean can I add on to that too I was turnover like because that's a hard job so that's what I was kind of wondering what the turnover rate is for that you're saying it's with train people so basically I hope this in some his people are going to do their job yeah going to keep safe right and yeah so I can say the PO Behavior text that I would that in my mind that we would be transferring I've been here either all year or even longer some longer our Behavior Texs are paid very well the starting

038pay for Behavior check is $20 and it goes up from there we don't have the turnover issue with the behavior checks like we do with other positions because of that they are re required additional training starting with 40 hours I mean it's automatic train that they have to go through before starting um they you know and we have we have additional training that they go through afterwards um so the behavior Tech piece again don't usually have as much of a turnover um the absences so the reason that it's one to one um that does not include the teacher okay so if if someone is absent each classroom could take one absent every day without being what I would consider short staff to run okay for say if we've done this uh because you know we

039have a Berlin game um we we had a student from here and another District that went to Burling gam and that was inside their prek through 12 building um with significant safety concerns so that is in you know what we're talk I mean right inside and if with f game schools it's you you walk straight through it's just for hallway um so there are Behavior checks that are assigned there there's an intensive skills classroom there they cannot handle the amount of students because the classroom space that they have are not large enough so they uh one of the things we did well at the beginning of the year because we had gotten some new students that we did not know were coming um we have what's called an ad team advisory team uh that that

040team is in that all of five the five sites that work for Three Lakes as well as four of our specialy locators and those are those train folks we have you know in the that also encompasses myself assistant director and our early childhood coordinator so there during a six week period there was uh put in place each of them had a rotation and they went over there and provided uh the support were basically the sub for the day there so they they know that they're aware of that and they do that now already in other places when we can't get a sub because the needs are too high so that that that plan is it's already in place and it's been working and it we continue to do so so what you're asking for is

041for theam Three Lakes the for the use of the building is on us that's really all we and they're just kind of and the co-op and the districts are all just kind of waiting on whether or not we're okay with the program being here and the agreements and theou um the other uh considerations are the rent utilities soal and insurance and and in the new packet or in the the ads right here I did add those recommendations I had them blank for you at first because I wanted you guys to discuss that and then Caroline and I spoke today a little bit about just bringing you what those recommendations to be um would be as as a means to keep cost down in general Co-op wide for us for everybody um was to [Music] um

042charge 15% of utilities um based on the room usage square footage of the building Etc um the uh hourly uh we will Bill hourly for custodial service so it takes an hour to clean that room we Bill an hour um so we can keep track of that and um if that changes over time we can we can talk about that too and then the insurance um that we already have for the building we which I think is smart for the building owners to have the the insurance and that food service is just going to be determined another time right Bill if yeah we it'll still same likeed that pie if there's any excess cost it can be do you want me to add that provision in here my my concern is more the transportation than

043the food the Food Service part I'm not worried about but are we going to be able to get it here or is that taking a person out of the classroom with those students for the 20 minutes or 15 to drive to high school to pick it up I mean I don't the cost I think is just not concern as much as some restrictions well the one one thought would be the the Specialists that there if there's not a crisis they you know they could go f it up if not we do have I mean car and other you know partial positions it could be assigned to someone you know like let's say I don't know which building you were wanting to come from it let's say it's carbon um it could potentially be a par

044that we build in to their day that you know at this hour they're the ones that they're going be deliver so it doesn't necessarily have to be a behavor Teck or some on this program it just it could be another staff yeah exactly I guess that thing three L not us I could also add in here some language on if you want us to put things like you know she mentioned paper and supplies things like that they're covering those things um so we could put some additional bullets on um financial responsibilities if you program a little bit there right I mean the my drugs my my concern was more of just as long as we understand the responsibility is transportation isn't on the district it's understanding we're paying a portion anyway it's just sure no

045the only thing we're asking you can almost think of this as a lease we're looking for SP that is it just like our our Frameworks and our next set programs we already have we are solely responsible for any materials anything all any function in L I mean all of that is our it will be our responsibility so if we needed another contract for someon with s Trail like we we we get food and other things from other districts that for other things so it those are just different I me yeah different pieces can be put in here but I almost think right is this similar to the agreement that you have with Berling game as far as 15% of utilities and do you have like they're actually charging less than that right well we charge

046we well they actually charge but we have over half the building we we pay 50% of the utilities for that building but we also are actually which is a discount I me it's less than what they could charge we we we leas over half the building now and we're another space or two here and there so we pay 50% that we Face proportional relasing um they the the rent is 500 a year there so it's noral for what it is and that's other we pay to Beed I mean we pay a three light uh staff member to C over there uh and then so just like we for our office have a second anybody have any other questions okay all in favor thank you Caroline youate it all right uh agenda anybody have any questions

047all in favor that brings us to 4.0 personnel rep how much time do you need Faith um or do you need any time yeah I need some time yeah how much time do you need the first time start you always tell me to do 30 when I say 20 so why don't we do 30 okay all right Mr President I move we go executive session to discuss Personnel pursuant to Not Elected Personnel exception of coma and the open meeting will resum The Bard room at 713 with FL motion second second all in favor e e e a Personnel report we need to add resignation of Rob pen and we also need to add a intervention High School teacher is that correct yes yes make a motion to accept the recommendation of the first report okay

048we have a motion second a second all in favor all right thank you very exciting there you go okay where are we at now uh 5.0 [Music] administrator you start so you can go L start so all right um board go or Chargers does it matter both okay all right Bo go board goal three recruit rain highly qualified staff um in the fall Kyle and I both went to K State um and we did some recruitment there at their educational Roundup piece and we got um they were very young in the process but we did get um a lot of information out to them and just pass P pass cards out um and that component that be something that we can go back and attend again um a plus for us I've been very excited

049we reached out I have reached out faith has reached out I think car's reached out we've all reached out to Baker University and talked to them about wanting to partner with them they did take me up on that this year I was very excited we have four Baker University students um in our building they are not in the student teaching process they're kind of like in the beginning process of their classes um and they come in and they work in the kindergarten rooms and I've really been trying to um butter them up to come back and student teach for us so that's the first time we've had that many and ESU is gonna do the same with us as well yes because they they're all over this um area and I when we went down

050there they sent us that okay well this one's actively happening right now so very excited about that um we're continuing to expand our highly qualified Mentor program we have three dedicated mentors at Overbrook um I actually just Carrie and I were just talking about this um the B Grant is great we're continuing to grow professional Educators advancing their um degree um two teachers had applied for the B Grant um for the reading specialist program and I actually just had one more reach out to me and I was writing her letter of recommendation as you guys were sitting in the back so that's always just great for them to further their knowledge and and bring that to our building um we are using our feedback loop and BLT so that we can communicate amongst the building

051and then from that we've been setting parameters and Provisions um and then just continuing the charger of the month um it's always great to just recognize staff for the things that they are doing um which leads me directly into charger of the month um we had two members in our building we were able to recognize them Faith came in during morning assembly um our Three Lakes SLP Cari Ericson was our charger of the month for our certified staff um she graduated from here probably a lot of you already know Cari she's one of the most hardworking individuals I've ever met um the kids call her a pretty princess cuz she's with her hair and when it's curled they love going to her and actually to attest to her level of commitment to those kids they

052are sad when they are exited from her services and every IEP in which we ever exit a student from speech the parents have talked to their kids and they say they're so disappointed and so that is just a testament to how amazing she is and then she throws in a little doughnut party and they always stop and visit her but um and then our charger of the month for the student that that was a fun one Fai it was white he is so adorable he so funny he is brand new to our district this year he's in second grade and he is an honory little loving I mic and let him talk like hey buddy you want to talk in the mic yeah just let him run the show he will he will run the

053show he has no fear he um has a signature line for the voice he ends every announcement with his joke and then he goes peace out um so now every time everybody sees him they say peace out to him he thinks it's great um and he just he's so loving he's so kind he wants to be a good friend he loves to make people laugh but he knows when to draw the line um so he actually got that and we went in and called his mom and he was just so excited and then he made sure to tell her hey that that $50 is mine like um I'm I'm going to go shopping with I'm gonna buy she's like like yep Dwayne will be over next week to give you your 50 bucks yeah so

054um and he also was very humble he looked at Faith and he said I really didn't think it would be me like I he did he named a couple other kids that he thought would be chosen so he doesn't see himself in that light so it was really great for him to see that others see him in that so okay but anyways that's it turn my timer off okay you're up or you're up you might start in now yeah I'll start with so our charger of the month we had the fourth through eth grade charger of the month was Chevy ano so she's a fourth grader and this Greg wi's class um just really exemplifies our um rules of our building of ready respectful responsible she's a great um role model for her peers um

055and yeah so she was our charger of the month $50 for a kid of that age is a lot of money so yeah hope she doesn't spend it all in one spot right I can see her buying art supplies she loves art she still brings Mrs Lynch back she makes good a f did ask her what she G to do with that money but she did she was kind of like she was so quiet she was shocked I think was really cute um I apologize for getting back in here um is there other things you want to gos board goals yeah so um that's the uh recruit and retain highly qualified staff and um one thing that we got the opportunity to do this year that we haven't had um previously is we have hosted

056um uh College interns from Baldwin and that has been wonderful we've had the four this year um and then we've had a significant increase in the students coming over from um uh from the high school in that uh program where they express interest in you know being an educator that kind of thing and so we've hosted um five of those students this year and one has actually been with us the whole year he spent half the year with um one teacher and then has had opportunities to go to other classrooms so that's been really good it's fun to see those um Trail High School kids come back and and have interest in education um then um and both of those are majoring in education aren't they that's my understanding that two of them are yeah

057that's what I thought and my full-time one that we had last year that stayed with us all year I hired her she's our PA she's amazing so that is cool um then um the one student teacher that we have um is interning with Becky rhods in fifth grade and she is the one that we offered a teaching position to um a fourth or fifth grade position too so that is a really high quality experience for her um to get into the school and and get her feet wet before she even graduates um let's see this year we were able to dedicate um Team time for our teachers um to work as a grade level team team um every day so our Ela social studies Science and Math teachers have uh uh common plan time but

058then they also have common team time so the collaboration level at our school has has increased significantly and when when the teachers build stronger relationships with their colleagues um the obstruction is better but then also that longevity of them wanting to see in the building better so those are the the two big things then I I do want to make the mention of um all of Andy's work in regards to the technology um the the increased presence and use of technology is very attractive to um teachers that are coming out of college um they come in with those um experiences and and can get you know going real quickly on it so if we can get um those Interactive TVs in our six seventh and eighth grade classrooms um that would be wonderful so we're

059hopeful okay at the high school level uh talking about the board goals start off with um I I find this one uh very intriguing being my first year there I I feel like the community as a whole has done a very good job with the uh Recruitment and Retention especially the recruitment part we are in the thick of the hiring season right now uh which I think it's kind of funny to say in early March that uh we've already gone through a lot of the hiring process 10 years ago this will be early in the hiring season uh but the fact that networking within the community has been our best resource with gaining qualified applicants uh the community to be very supportive when we get things posted and we spread the word and it's always

060like hey I know somebody who might know somebody hey I got somebody else I can get a connection here I'll reach out and make these connections we we had a lot of applicants driven to us at high school because of that uh so I'm very grateful for the community and the efforts of the staff and the Pates uh it's been very supportive and I I think that also adds to The Climate culture of the building that we are very much family oriented we want to support each other with the students at the for Forefront of our focus and this this whole process this year has been a testament to that so uh I do commend s Fe Trail Community as a whole and their efforts to try and find ways to support our students it's

061been it's been Pleasant I've had more applicants and positions that I ever imagined I would receive so hopefully that's an ongoing trend for us uh and the ongoings at the school uh obviously we wrapped up winter sports recently and we jumped into spring Sports we're kind of in that that lull before the next storm of all the events and activities coming through uh so we've got a lot going on uh Chris gave me the numbers for our spring Sports so baseball we currently have 26 out softball we have 23 boys track 38 girls track 26 boys golf 15 uh and then our total so we've got 79 on the boy side and 49 on the girl side so we got some really good numbers out again for this spring a lot of kids involved with

062things uh we also just wrapped up our uh spring play uh the production uh late bus was was put on I hope you had an opportunity to go out and see that and watch kids in different facets I will say that also is is something else I like seeing going on at our school how we celebrate everything uh that goes on and how people from different capacities will come out and show their support so somebody that you would stereotypically think oh that's an athlete person an athletic person is that there in the play and involved is it's really nice to see that that cross CC approach that we're seeing and then obviously the people from the communting that uh Chargers of the month so for our certified staff and this is another individual who's very

063good at networking and has supported uh the ongoing efforts um kind of one of those that I wish I'd been able to work with her more than this year but Kayla Chik she was our charger of the month she's done a great job supporting the CTE efforts and trying to figure out hey how can I help you what can we do to support in program and building and ultimately what how do I help these kids bo to their future so she exent choice in that and then for our student is ailia Simpson another wonderful student with great personality willing to be uh reach out and be kind to everybody had another opportunity to present this to her in band so embarrassed her in front of a third of the popular a great time so excellent

064choices in terms of our our charges of Mone um you check out the newsletter that's another opportunity that we we spread to the community uh so you see what's going on in the building um had quite a bit of feedback from the community about liking liking the submissions from our staff so everybody kind of knows what our kids are doing kind of gives them that inside look so I do encourage that if things are going on please continue to send them to me and I want to get that published to the community any questions okay um just quick on sa we have one more charger of the month um so we do a classified staff member and Brittain Gillum who is our um assistant um Tech what is his Ro what is what is his

065position actually called assistant administrator systems administrator systems administrator so he took on that new role thank you I'm glad you that so he's overseen all the power school stuff um all the all the when I say systems administrator that's like all the programs that we use he is like the administrator of those program so took um some really big roles and on this year and um people love Britain he comes in the building and um I've had that problem for seven years and he fixes it in two minutes and um the customer service is good he's very pleasant he's always positive he's um he's just a he's a fun guy so um he got the classified staff member of the month for February and we let Kaitlin announce it over the loudspeaker because she likes

066to talk to him like she's British so we let her do a British accent Britain bright she calls him Brighton so we did that here that was funny um for uh retention and recruitment just piggyback everybody I think we have worked really hard the last couple of years in where we saw things after covid with with teaching and Staffing things have just gotten significantly better the amount of applicants were getting um the the downward trend of turnover um it's just it's incredible I do want to say I think our reputation out there is is getting golden I think people see our celebrations of staff I think our national awards and all the things we're getting recognized for and the growth our students are seeing and every time I call people up Reverend like I've just

067heard great things about trailer I've heard great things about your school or so I just keep heing this and it's just getting better and better and better and I I think part of that is just every time you hear something bad you gotta smack it with something good and I think we've done that on social media I think we've done that with the community in Word of Mouth and so I just I think this just it's getting so much better so thank all of you for being you know the leaders and the advocates for um just keeping good staff and then going and finding new staff that when we need to build a position so I'm very proud of where we are with staff recuitment and retention so all right thank you guys all right

068um open yes so I put um just some preliminary numbers uh together for you at uh 997 for next year uh that is obviously a projection things could change we could get more we could get less we estimated about this exact same number last year for our ft e for um for students enrollment for our um count day so Kaylee and I budgeted around that same amount that same number so we've been projecting numbers to decrease um things could change uh but with that in mind we have to put together a capacity for every grade level or program or however um you see fit based on that legislation and get that published by May 1st so I sent this to principles what I did was I just autofilled the classes going to next year right

069our seniors exit our kindergarteners come in so based off the numbers I have right now this is our projections that is fluid of course but with those totals it looks like a possible loss of you know a maximum of 26 kids last year we had up in the 60s so I see that being less this year but still dropping um as you can see in those numbers there if you look at the 80s the 60s they're all kind of on our upper end and then as you get to our younger grades our numbers are are getting smaller you know I don't I I talking to Kylie about this earlier I don't have a crystal ball for the for the future but this is not just a Santa Fe Trail thing this is Statewide Nationwide people

070are having viewer kids there's more competitions with private schools there's a lot of people homeschooling um you know economic growth and development that's a big part part of it and people are just having fewer kids so there's a lot of factors that go into this could we have a growth sometime I told Kylie I think the way that we would see growth here is if we have some economic development that brings jobs and and then housing and people to come here and live but open enrollment you know as we get you know the reputation that we have we might have kids from bigger districts wantan to come to a smaller school too I think that's an appeal being where we are around toeka uh wasburn rues School Laurence that you know maybe that appeal will

071draw some kids as well so we will bring capacity numbers to you for the April meeting for you to approve and then we'll publish those May 1st we're already getting um I think an applicant or two um for the summer so Amy will send them letters that say we've received your application we will review those in the summer and then I'll bring uh non-resident students for approval for you guys in the summer you guys have questions on these numbers or projections okay okay so that's just an update on on where we're at for that there's no action you need to take at this time all right okay uh that brings us do you want to do a capital outlay update yes and I apologize Andy's Andy's daughter's playing in the state tournament right now so

072he is s me like lots of paper I got like a stack of papers here from Andy so what he's asking of you is for you to look at essentially these two documents one of them is U for servers and one of them is for staff Hardware so we're working on a uh kind of playing some catch up with staff devices that are aging and making recommendations to um upgrade quite a bit of needs for staff devices and this one here um is approximately about $128,000 worth of um hard Ware or staff this is not all staff this is a section of Staff uh he has some more next year and the year after and we'll just cycle through uh as we go I 128,000 I know that sounds like a lot of money but

073we've saved a ton of money on student devices uh through our KSU adopt Grant so he wants to get some things upgraded with staff so this is a really good year to do that as this is um significantly less than what we normally budget for for Hardware uh so this is a really good number actually uh so he wants approval really to just no to not exceed this budget uh for he's he's out getting another bid so he's got one bid for um these things here he's going to get one more to compare he really likes Zell uh but there's some other companies obviously we can look into and then he would like also a motion to approve um This Server that's uh bid is at 21,000 so those are the two things he inv

074like FAL tonight for he did send me a a list of Q&A that he was prepared that might be questions so I have seven answers for possible questions you may have and I hope they're not so that's why I said you some that stuff early just ask some good questions so if you have other other questions let me know he's so prepared do you guys have any questions that I can answer for you or any concerns that I can bring back to him too nothing has been purchased at this time so I can I can bring anything to him as well are you needing two different yeah you can either do you can do it as one if you want or you can make two motions one motion for the servers and one motion for

075the hardware um however however you want to do it or one motion to do both as recommended by Mr I guess I do have one question the what we be getting works better with the digital TVs that we have that has been that that's been the major that has been an issue and he actually had an answer for that on here yeah I thought there was something in one of the things that you I yes these deficiencies result in slow Performance Audio Visual disruptions during presentations and frequent repairs furthermore laptops deployed by 2022 were imaged without essential drivers leading to the ongoing user frustration and increased support demands of our new interactive TVs what's going to do with all this extra timeing well we havec serious question though how many devices do we have for

076staff to you mean how many does each staff member have how many devices just oh that's a good question if we're replacing 75 laptops and I asked this already my fear is that our refresh cycle is going to be heavy because every three years every third year is going to be three times the budget of the other two is there any way to level loow did you see that um I saw the the reasoning I'm not did you see the uh I sent you the is it that staff roll out plan it's a staff roll out plan yeah I don't so purchasing no Andy just gave it to me today it was the last email I sent you wasn't aren the computers pretty old at the schools and keep in mind this is not just

077remember what managers custodians uh our kitchens have them as well yeah he said the rotation cycle the goal is to move to a three-year rotation cycle for laptops the cycle will start with placing current laptops in two years and this is next here it is okay so this year for 2021 he's got on here um one two 3 four five 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 [Applause] 54 approximately Replacements and then next summer he's got it almost looks almost the same so here's here's 2025 here's 20 26 about the same every year what I don't know where this came from and he's got like the year on it um I can send you all of this he sent me this this afternoon so I can send this to you guys

078I can email it to you so he's getting on a rotation cycle um where we don't have to replace so whoever gets these devices this year they'll be cycled through whatever four five years whatever he timeline want to put on it the next group same just like we do with like uniforms that that was my like concern he says the email I have says that we're asking for 75 this year next year would likely be in the 50 range maybe I'm missing so that that I guess my only thing is I don't know how many how many do we have toal and understanding that we can't and if we need to if it's 7550 12 do we do 50 of the most critical that now and then do be the most critical next year and

079then try to get that closer I don't I'm not I trust his judgment on who needs what and he told me kind of right now what he's prioritizing is the age issues of our devices and trying to get those caught up but you're right like it's no different than putting all brand new HVAC units on all our buildings and they're not having a rotation cycle because they're all the same year and they all go B the same year I would argue laptops we need probably and he would know better but a three year four year is probably pushing it cycle right so if we're doing it now I I that's all and who knows in three years if we're all here or not or what that is I just don't want that to be a

080reoccurring every few years oh crap we're getting I guess three4 of our laptop my question is he's checking with another company that he wants to approval to go up to is that so he can get ordered once he finds the best B another yeah and not wait another month yeah so he does not want to exceed that I think actually the first bid he got is under this already okay so this is his estimates and I think that first bid already is he's he's going to probably be happy with both companies he's he's just trying to find deal yeah and both and all these companies are on you know State contractors so we don't have to go through a full bid process they're already bed bid process though um he just wants to get an

081approved budget for it so and he's recommended the 75 now because they're they're probably I'm not5 this say I don't think four years [Music] yeah I mean I mean to me on this it looks like he's got almost the same amount for next year that he does this year that are different staff members in the Q&A that he sent you does he mention um like grants at all yeah we got a huge one for student devices so well no I I knew we got all those but I'm saying like in years to come because I know he did the Grant and we got you know the big TVs and stuff the interactive and I know we ended up we were able to get what was it more than what we expected and so we're not

082going to have to do it again so we can do it like for something that like for computers in the future does well the grant if you wrote in the grant you're buying this stuff with it you have to buy the stuff that you wrote the grant for so I don't think staff devices are going to be able to be purchased in the grant that we have I mean in the future oh so if he wrote a new Grant so I'm saying it's a possibility that we won't have sure he can write grants he's a good grant writer he can write POS I mean because once we get all the interactive TVs then but I'll just say right now I know that seems like a really big number but that's actually a very small number

083in comparison to Total Hardware we would have if we had student devices and what not so I think he's just going to try to play catchup here and get some of these devices updated why we have the budg know any answer any of these answers um a few so we're trying to move to better quality laptops yeah so a much longer life cycle um and it's going to be 75 this year or 50 next year so those are the numbers Andy texted me okay he's he must be listening he [Music] is didn't count you you sent me an email that said 75 oh I did I was just counting on these lines here and these lines I must have there must be two for so he's got like plus kitchen custodial shepher Terry's lab High

084School CAC Library lab student stations waight room so there's not numbers next to all those so I guess my whole thing is not the quality the long Chevy it's just do we want to try to balance but I'm good with must be three devices in Sam Cas load I mean is there I think just is there a reason 7550 and not like 60 and guess I think it's based on what he believes is the need of who needs upgraded we're trying to replace a lot of the ones who are basically decrepitate this point and are barely functioning and there's quite a few of those yeah so that's why the higher number first is to get those really bad win Point slowly get are we like 200 devices are we 500 devices are we 50 devices

085I mean do we have I do not know those numers that's fair 75 51 though I mean well no but they're in the same breath though if we're getting 75 high quality surely we're not replacing a two-year-old laptop youever it is it's old no yeah I get I'm not but I'm good maybe after we get the 75 and the 50 then maybe it'll go more to I will ask more questions for you and get those and if maybe there's an answer here I you answer need two motions or one ask ask answer question like is nailing all right I'll make a motion to move forward with the Dell Technologies domain controllers uh quote of just over 21,000 great we have a motion for D Technologies second second are we saying we saying yes to Dell

086or are we saying yes to theing okay just kidding Serv all right just kidding so this is a motion for the servers and you second it all in favor and I'll make a motion to up to quoted amount by Andy um there were three items on that I don't have that in front of me Faith the uh proposal up to 128 as presented okay everybody understand was motion and a second all in favor thank you Andy thanks Andy thanks Andy thanks Andy now watch your basketball yeah is any know scor is awesome text okay is that all you have on reconfiguration for now I'm not rec yes that's all I've got now that brings us to that brings us to reconfiguration yes so I guess we had a special about that anybody have any thoughts

087concerns comments you want to make from that I just wanted to provide you guys with some time without anybody here to you know I know that there was a lot of information there were some questions and I just want you guys to have some time to discuss I think about next steps um I have a few thoughts but I don't I really want to hear from you guys on what you thought about the presentation directions you want to go uh things that seemed realistic not realistic and I know that we haven't seen all the tax appications but one of my recommendations will be to do that as the next step is to get all that stuff in front of you as well but I think we need to kind of step back and look big

088picture on where do you think we want to go and then if we need to adjust some of those things but you know what where do you think we need to be going like long-term Vision where do you guys want to see this District as um you know 10 15 20 I mean you can think as far down the future as you want I think longterm longterm Vision it would be amazing to have one campus long long-term Vision I don't know what that looks like as far as taking it because they had mentioned doing it in phases so I guess I would want to hear more of their thoughts on how how would that work with I mean keeping up on maintenance but also how with our buildings that we have now and what that

089looks like and do we reconfigure any of the schools while we're trying to make that jump into getting into one campus Because you know I think a lot of us have expressed you know we don't like all of the transitions but how long of a process is that going to take so I think I would like to see what their idea is of because I agree with Kylie I um I I would love to see at one campus I think it it would benefit a lot of things um a lot of the students just from personal experience coming from Mission Valley where this happened at I it's an awesome thing so I mean that was a while ago and that was done and that was different time different money as well but if it can

090happen over time I just to see us keep putting money into each individual school if the long-term goal I think that's why it's so important to think not just your fiveyear or 10year plan because I think looking back we could have done things differently but we didn't have that crystal ball so not dumping a lot of money into the reconfiguration if the long-term plan is to have one campus and I don't know how I exactly I don't know how that would look when we're trying to get there like where do you start what I would want to pick their brains more of that when you mention that what do it in the summer absolutely not I mean this is going to be a long process if that's the route that's going to go but a

091lot of money that's a lot that's my concern is what can what can the community support I need to make I think you need to find that out I think that's the next step what well but I guess that's so what is the savings right we look at it I know we look monary so if if in fact one of the buildings closes and we're able to reconfigure where we're fitting in three buildings instead of four what is the dollar savings and how does and this might be a completely stupid question so I apologize but how does a bond I know it's the taxpayers that pay back the bond right essentially so but with the money that like we' save in the school put towards anything for that is that you know what I mean

092I don't think that's a stupid question because I wonder too like if we rent one of these I that's what I don't understand about it like like Justin was just saying you know say we one of the Schools is closed and we save X Y and Z on that U just because we're not having to pay for the building and utilities and everything so that so that's what we would be looking to do is become more efficient in operations so top of operations is sapping right people and how do we consolidate you know when we whatever way you want to go how does that affect sapping how could we then cut on staff right then you look at things like Transportation Food Service uh all of the all of those pieces then would fall in

093and so depending on where what ones you want to look in then we will dive into that nitty-gritty and we can get all those numbers of cost savings um there's for the bond piece what we're looking at is what what it's going to cost to do any of these options right and then based on you know we can get some advice from our our financial people you know what type of tax implication would that have over you know if we did a 20 year bond or a 30-year Bond and they look at our assess valuation and what you know a mill will be worth and valued at to then pay for um these upgrades and they can come in and do some of those predictions for us and they're assessing the market and the value

094of our district over time uh the predictions they've given me already are based on a very conservative 1% growth and assess valuation um even though our district has grown on average um four to 6% over the last 10 years so that's a very conservative estimate so there's there's some amount of dollars that we could run a bond with no tax increase and so we can talk about that there are dollar amounts that we would raise the mill by four or five there's some that you're going to raise it 15 to 20 Ms um I know Lyndon when they ran their bond they they raised there significantly it was it was a big jump I think it was almost 14 Ms something like that so that it just depends on how much you guys want to

095spend but I I I think we need to First decide where you want to go first I think it's hard to decide where to go without knowing that information that's my biggest issue right I so money then is the driving force then versus where we want to go I guess that's how I'm reading it versus feel like we may know where we're going to go but if it's crazy expensive we may want that but might just take us a little longer to get that but how do we do that over time the one campus is not one we're looking at right now that looks like too much and we're going to we're going to go for these as more of a stair step um but when we're talking about school closures as well you need

096to consider that as that will be a that will be a hard you know political cell too so I think it will be wise for us to consider a couple of options to then go get feedback on and then we'll bring in all these Financial so we can dig really deep into what are cost savings um what is what what a bond cost here what and then what are those tax implications with that kind of a bond so if it's a $10 million Bond what does that mean for a $150,000 homeowner a $250,000 homeowner someone who has 200 acres of land so there's lots of pieces to it um I didn't bring all that to you because I thought that was getting in the weeds before we kind of have a vision on where you

097wanted to go so I'm not trying to drive you from the dollars that will be I think that's our next meeting I just think we need to talk about the the big vision of what they presented to you and what you're thinking as if your goal is one campus is everybody in agreeance to that um is that something you want to take to the public and say hey we think it's ideal that we get there because X Y and Z reasons um or we say no we don't want to do that we still think we need to have at least one school open here or yeah so those are the kinds of things I think that we need to discuss and I think you guys as as a unit of seven kind of need to

098be on the same page on where we're going to go instead of taking to the public well I know like in the town hall meetings I think that was the you know everyone wanted the one Camp not everyone obviously but I mean that was like a majority I mean that's I heard it at every town hall meeting but and that's exactly you look at but my question so say you know we close a school down we close multiple schools down obviously we don't want these schools to sit there like I would like to make money you know like is there because I know we had kind of threw ideas around like maybe like having a CTE building and maybe letting like Burling game come and you know maybe like have the co-op use it and

099so as long as we're not just shutting a building down and leaving it there empty I mean as long as we can I I that's what I want to see I don't want to see us shut down and the building just go to waste you know what I mean like maybe it's our school but I still want it to be something for us sure but something for us means it's still on our books or something for us as in someone else is taking care of it and paying for it because those are two different things so if it's still on our books right meaning we're paying for the insurance we're paying for the capital outlay cost I think more turning it in be like a community center or dayare or I mean some something more

100for I guess the Community aspect is what I would Envision but not the school district running it one building I think is easy repurpose is this one because we've kind of already talked about uh the need for possibly Three Lakes to have programming here um they could then shut down their lyen facility run their administrative offices out of here they could even bring another program over here that could save money from paying over at Burling game and get a couple of programs all in one place Three Lakes have this they own it it's all on them and then that takes this whole facility off of our books but it's still used as a school concept and some of our kids will even go to school here it's just a it's a co-op building versus a

101Santa Fe Trail building well and that's what I want I want to know too like what if um so if they buy it from us obviously it's out of our hands but say we still own it but basically they lease it from us you know is that is that something but then where does that like Insurance yeah and so I want to know like I want to know is it going to bring us money in is it going to help us pay for some of this new school is it going to you know like I I don't sure yeah so if you charge demed and you said then you're in charge of all the utilities and and it takes off let's say it takes off 90% of the expenses of this building yeah then that

102expenses are off we're not making money but it's taking that out of our out of our budget right right so yeah I mean yeah that's kind of what I want to questions I I like to see like what ideas do we have you know with the schools yeah do what is it gonna look like if we sell what is it going to look like if we yeah if we lease it or you know I mean a lot of buildings right that's yeah absolutely it's hard I feel like I would like to see a few options like to to show like to the community members because I feel like that's going to be the for behind what we sure I feel like I mean even like a like a some kind of you know comparison between

103a few options to show people because I feel like people want to know Money numbers and I think it would be good to talk to your local people about ideas for the buildings they might have ideas that the cities might want or you know when we say options I think like vetted to scale plans to not like we think that work I mean maybe that's where I with htk my whole thing is is I didn't really believe a lot of what they said I'll just I don't think those numbers was I think it was just a guess that it might cost 50 million this one might cost this because any question about the plans is well plans don't mean anything I mean without some what of a plan how can you put cost together I

104can guess that Justin's house is going to be $300,000 Justice says what size is I say I don't know 300,000 maybe 325 right yeah I think we need to know what that number is if if it's if it's not 50 I just don't feel like that that they're far enough for any of that is there that I get I just feel like we have so many options like well just which one these and then they'll go build to it that my next question is is I think we approved up to like a 21 or 25,000 it was as they go how much have we used of that seven okay seven I've charged seven to me what they've done so far is almost what we've already had done by the company that came last year on

105they went in and they looked at all of our buildings and our structures which is great but then what did they do with that knowledge I don't I I didn't see enough from htk I guess I was hoping for more it did I'd like to have some questions answered I guess sure like can we get more par and their answer is we're going to pay for back parking lot Paving the parking lot doesn't add one extra space that just a shin par to look closely each plan and like write down specific questions we have and things we specifically want to know I mean are there any plan we need to decide are there any that we just hated that we all know or not well there's certain questions like the one one question they brought

106up does the water district even have the capacity to me you didn't walk you didn't walk our facilities because if you walk our facilities you see the water tank out back that provides the fire suppression system in the Dos correct that's to me that says water district doesn't have the capacity you know there's there's obviously more more more way to to skin that c I just kind of feel like way too much to you see what I'm saying question right sure so I not we talked about doing a commity Comm committee with the town um we definitely need to get that get these the communities input as far as like we need to figure that out like who are we taking like we're gonna you know we need Farmers we need business owners we need

107you know like we need specific people from the community to come in too as a kind of their own little board and what are we asking for are we asking to see what they want see in school districts or are we saying here's three plans what are you will to pay for I see I mean I don't I I think we need to have some specific I will say personally I'm just going to throw it I want to see six seventh and eighth grade out the high school I mean yes I want one campus it eventually do I think we can afford that down no I mean I'm just so is that like you know what we present phase one is can is that something that we could afford you know what I mean is

108that like the like first step that we try to get to right I mean like ultimately I I AG I don't want to close down any schools by any means and I don't I don't want but I would love that to start out with two campuses if we could do two campuses right now I think that'd be great I mean one is the ultimate goal can we start with breaking it down to two but like what you said about at the town hall meeting and I don't know if everybody's Town Hall meetings if it was everybody there was talking one campus or like that idea where I was at the majority of people said that would be really neat but there was only 20 people there so the majority of that little group said that

109but not not our our buildings aren't falling down I mean I'm not trying to squash the [Music] camp School proba I Mission validated they was in a little different situation had a little more needs maybe no and I wouldn't say they were decrepit like past people have said um but I mean there was definitely updates that needed done I mean harveyville is still standing in it's an art school now right you know what I mean so I mean Do's Community Center I mean I'm sure they have to put money into it and everything yeah um so I don't think it was a dire need um I think what happened in Mion Valley School District is their hand got forced a little bit and they started kind of what we have established here is seventh 8th

110grade got shoved over to harveyville certain class and that was a new thing and so then so that's kind of what happened so I I know that our buildings right now like we could stay as we are and our schools will fun and our buildings are good enough and we will use Capital Outlet to continue to grow them and and fix them and and maintain them um that's not really my concern it's can we continue to sustain the operations as they are if we continue to have declining enrollment um over time so where do we want to do our cost savings if you don't want to do it in facilities that's okay we don't have to do it in facilities like the schools are one part of our budget and operations are other parts of

111our budget so you're right we we do have four working buildings that you know some of our savings well I guess what I if you're asking me like hey what would I want to see as a voter and if I want to vote for a bond I mean I would like to see okay what does sprant cost me operate months a year how many students are that building what does carbon cost me operate how many students are that building what does the high school what is over Brook and then plan a you would essentially get rid of this operating cost right now again if we could repurpose it now that Capital outlay money goes to okay we can start building a junior high at the high school right or we could start doing whatever starting

112with the gy or starting with this and and pecem it that way or hey if we were to repurpose two buildings this is the capital Outlet we could spend I mean just something that has actual figures that says okay this is what you're saving opportunity absolutely yep um you know money for that and then okay well if we go to three sections instead of four right or whatever from a staffing perspective what is because we saw there's some 80s at the high school and then it's 60 and 50s pretty much in Overbrook right so probably need to look at that what does that look like so what can we do with our own money that we're already telling the this is how we're spending your money yep being fiscally responsible right now so we're not

113just saying give us all this Bond money because we want this new shiny thing and now we're going to keep wanting the same upkeep EXP for Rand facilities which doesn't make sense to me either and that's what I'm kind of getting at so what they say for like the one facility what did3 million no like it was like was a huge range it was like 4 okay so let's say $50 million right to make one campus so like here's where I'm getting at so say we sell this building to Three Lakes how much is that how much we going to sell this building for we sell it to Three Lakes so whatever you get 66% of that yeah but saying like building $10 million and then hey there's $10 million we're putting towards our new

114schools our one campus you know what I mean like that's kind of where I'm trying to get out too I kind of want to know as a taxpayer and maybe I just for me what I'm willing to pay for what we need what do we need to educate kids what do we need to make the teachers do their job better and yes we're already winning the boards which buildings we have we're already popular people want to work here and that's great that we're able to do that but what do we need like yeah we want nice stuff too right we want a good place for kids in school but what really is this is really going to be good for the kids because there's going to be cost savings but you know saving money on

115busing that saves the budget that we manage here taxpayers are still paying to operate School whether it's in busing or a new building in one campus right so why am I going to pay extra for this does that make any sense at all oh yeah and that's the only reason why I haven't pushed the finance piece yet is like what do we want to do what is what are our needs and and then dive into all these things like before we would run a bond or even go out and say this cost this we would absolutely need to have all this information about operations for all these options just as you said Justin um we would need to know all the tax and implications we would need to know um upfront costs that are going

116to be there that will disappear over time because they're up front cost but then cost Savings in the long R and some of these things may take a while to see savings too so this is something too we probably just need to ask you know uh right now we've got a lot of good board members whatever we do I mean graduate and my others are little so I'm this your hob this this is my new hobby um talking about needs though I mean so I will tell you like personally I hate that the preschools over here by themselves like I because we are a small community I I feel like our Preschool teachers don't have a problem contacting our kindergarten teachers and bounceing ideas but if they were in one building you know it' be

117so much easier for them to like work together and do like the transition from the preschool to the kindergarten and you know obviously we've talked about having you know fourth and fifth grade back with the grade school and I mean I feel like just you know the teaching part of it like teacher I think it' be better for teachers to have you know like not feel secluded you know just have as a whole teachers have talked about that and that there's transitioning to kindergarten I know it's a popular opinion mean for me you were going from pre kindergarten you know we do that kindergarten Camp if you were already in that building you know you're already there you're used to that you're seeing those same teachers and that's your building you're used well you already

118know the teachers you already you know we started talking about this was because we have so many transitions so whether we build we don't I still think something needs done yeah I don't think we I don't think we should stay as is bottom line is my so we would have to go down to one or two bu to to reduce ruce transition have one or two settings you have ele so but I also feel like our configuration with 4 through eight is not typical anywhere it's a very and that's our biggest complaint is having the fourth and gr telling you that we're not we're changing the transition it goes from third to the longevity of the transitions that we fix are the preschool transition thirdd grade transition grade transition so it's more like Theus the

119longevity of the time kid is you're in the same building and that's I think that's a need we have thousand kids and four facilities I don't I don't feel like like the the one campus trying to look up the the different options because I feel like the one one campus is like pie in the sky but it's very expensive and I feel like our community just doesn't have the tax we need to to support that she mentioned the money maybe at another meeting but what's it going to cost I mean I think people are going to want so what's it going to cost somebody like me versus somebody with really fancy house all that right what's the difference there someone with 600 acres someone just a big land what's going to cost I mean is

120is this guy paying $5 this guy paying 100 is that is that the range there and I think that's important I mean that's what I would like to do is get a few options that we kind of agree on and figure out some taac like implications of each because I feel like people want to know that before they're going to tell before they're going to have a good idea of what they want to support yeah and maybe it's maybe it's the bond that doesn't really raise any taxes doesn't cost any money but you can get something start working that way well and to Justin's Point even if we weren't even if we were closing one building now the cost savings to closing a building and using it for other purposes there is it's more it's

121more efficacious I think three legs come here that say three leg not paying for some yeah and they have to do something to be honest oh yeah other we're going to be paid for we're going to be paying for a building there because it's their building needs more yes it's worth so I feel like needs something else so do you want to have a special board meeting with htk and like hypers Sandler financial adviser to come in and talk about the taxes and you guys can bring questions I can prep with some additional questions that you might have have everybody in the room we spend all that time just with them um so can Piper like can you just can Piper just like throw numbers out there like okay if you spend this is 5

122million then this is what it's going to look like if you spend 10 million this is what it's going to look like based on the market based on ass valuation I mean I would like to see those numbers you know cuz then we could say okay well here's our budget and I mean obviously here's our budget here's am what can we do with this money maybe that would be the best way to do be willing to pay we I mean I can tell you what I want I want a lot of things in this District I mean I could I would tear down the high school and start bres and do all you know but obviously that's not going to happen so we really need a price point I think but I think some of

123that information has to come from you because are building operations there yes that part I can do I'm not talking about that part I'm talking about the market for the bonds yeah like what pi your taxes if we yeah if we do a bond for this much like what's it going to cost taxpayers and I mean maybe that would be a starting point is try to figure out if we did 20 million 10 million I know five million right I mean I'm just and then what could be what plan could what could we do what yeah what can we do with this amount of money unless I mean I'm G to tell you right now just I think Community I mean it is it's it's money like a lot of the community they're not going

124to look at the school and say oh you know what do you need that for what you know a lot of them are all they're going to look at is their taxes they're going to say oh your our taxes are going up again our taxes are going up like I don't even have kids that go to that school I don't have grandkids you know what I mean like they don't care I don't want to say they don't care but you know what I mean like ultim they don't care do to the school you know as long as our kids are going to school they just care about what are their taxes if you bring H back it'll still be under that original 24,000 that's all all're going with so far good I say we get

125the numbers from Piper before we meet back with HK but I guess to me if we're getting numbers and they say you have 10 million but we don't even know if it's feasible or the size of a gym and classrooms will actually fit east of the high school because I kind of question that I did too because I don't know if you a gym and classrooms to the East and then to the South I think it's tough but so to me if we go get this 10 million we're going to add this middle school or Junior High to the high school plan and go down to two facilities but then we find out oh crap we can't even we need more than one more Lagoon or the water water system won't support it or hey

126turns out we don't have the square footage to the east that we thought we had there's a lot of questions s foot so I guess to me I would say it would probably start with I hate to say a scale but a scale drawing of what it looks like to add a junior high to the high school or a middle school for adding six the high school and then after that start looking at student population size to say what buildings could fit what I don't know I just I mean I'm not an architect so I I can ask them like how they came up with these I can ask them exactly how they came up with I just kind feel like it's guess well I mean just how many feet do we have from the

127not the overhang but where the gym is East yeah East to where the easement is and will it fit another gym and classrooms to the east of that which I think is what the drawing showed and that's pretty tight so do we want to look at at the options that we were given and write down all of our questions of the things we want to know before hdp comes back back I mean I would hope they would come with that I don't want to come to a meeting just no that's what I'm saying if we had all of our questions about each you know about so they could come back with all the answers ask them ahead of time is what you're saying like we want to know like is there another gym with and

128if so where is it going to go it was what size was it did we have enough right right I mean well and on that note too I will say like so our um Dome gym is lacking what was it lacking like four feet or something is why we couldn't do like volleyball regionals or something like really really I mean who made that decision like that's the most like so if we do get a new gym let's make sure it's going to be the right size so we can actually do things in there you know like not just build a gym to have a gym you know what was it fouret it was I can be very transparent with them and say my board is very um we questioning we are they're UND satisfied and

129questioning um the options that you provided with details that they feel are very needed especially some of those specifics of square footage the EAS can fit here the lagoons the parking the playgrounds the um and and I talked to them a little bit about that in my followup uh when I met with them the Monday after our meeting and so I told them that I said you know there's some things they had a lot of questions about that you know you didn't have answers and they really they went into this this was a programmatic study um for big picture big Vision that here's some options based on the utilize utilization of space that we have that's really what we they did was like a utilization of space um and underutilization of space but they didn't

130tell us what to do with I Prov us more some more guidance like I felt like that's kind of what we they didn't give us any of that really and I think that's why we're still so up in arms about everything because we're still and one of the options was a 5 through nobody's in favor of which was what what did you say five like we want a middle school like a 6 through eight or a junior high and one of the options I think that was I feel too I guess I feel too like we need something if I don't remember the exact numbers but it was like 8 to 12 13 to 18 41 to 15 rough bath in my head that's about 25% off on each one of those money increments well

131I can guess that right I mean maps and throw at it is like I know it does it doesn't have to be perfect but I just kind of feel like a little need something a little bit better because you know I've done a lot of construction and 41 to 50 it's never 4 it's always 50 plus so one thing I do want to know too and this maybe is just a me thing but I have mentioned it before because our school I mean we're getting smaller and smaller and smaller eventually I feel like sixth graders are going to have to start playing Junior High Sports so personally I think that six through 8th need to be in a building together that's me just because you know like when we get to these kid you know

132like where we have 30 kids in this class and cl decision or is that a school decision I don't know that's I don't cuz I know Burling does it I know Mission Valley does it it's more of a school decision I thought so we talked about trision do we I I don't want to see us have a seven and eight like so say we build a junior high onto the high school okay I just don't want us to build seventh and eighth grade there and then four years down the road like oh well we only have five kids to play volleyball you you know so we need sixth graders so it be better if they were don't know there any such expand the TCT or something maybe he's the guy to talk to thought about

133that a little bit or is there a way to do anything any Tech on our own or anything any what more tech tech oh CTE building sometimes even though it would be maybe experience but could we do it better what the kids are get now is that possible I don't know option well I just love I mean like I don't know if this is what you're getting at but like instead of having the kids having to drive to wasburn Tech like they could just drive over techram they used to in one of their smaller buildings and in Garnett um they were housing their own and what I remember was there were some surrounding Hing there house there I don't know the details of it how you knowling Lon here they're putting a lot of money

134in the Kmart up off the line they're probably not saying they won't how far south do people come like to go to wasman Tech like is there another tech school like Hills [Music] people years ago well so you want to do special meeting and have her gather this information you want to just make that long you want to do a special meeting like like before meeting like we did before inste another night I just think an hour is kind of short my only fear is you get rich in discussion and then disc I also feel like we need to have specific questions to give them like that we want them to answer I mean like we want like we're looking at this one we want to know where the gy is the gy big enough

135we want to know really feasible to put in this I think we need to have how do you want to collect all of that how would you like to send me all that and I can submit it to them like all the questions you have I know you guys what I do but I feel like we need to sit down we need to have while we're together and write down a list of questions and send it to them and then have them come and present could start like a Google doc where we can all drop questions into it your question might make me think of a question comor instead of doing another meeting we can't do that you can do that in here do thate you have so next week on spring break next Tuesday

136um the second is it Wednesday April 1 meeting if we could not do a Monday or Wednesday but if it has to be first is Tuesday are off on like like during the afternoons I some of you don't know THS I like THS H we have a lot of softball games on Thursdays depends which one we don't on the third actually we have Friday nights we do oh JB no rosville varsity I that's on the four well like to attend talk HT me are you out next week then are you on I'm out I'm out until Thursday Thursday be as soon as I can get for next week I will be out until THS do you do Friday I can't do any spring break I won't be here I'll be down south yeah okay I

137mean I can do it I'm okay a special meeting next Thursday or Friday as long as we can have the tournament up I one these big TV Frid I do the 27th Thurs the 27th going to Nashville I my one vacation so no Monday what's Wednesday the 2 do we have trying to collaborate your seven calendars so 26 is the meeting dry about to start driving oh yeah we get drivs meetings April I know thought it was on Friday have it on Thursday but they have it on Friday so District yeah Friday shows at Ros on Friday the 4th on the third the district C just has the JV Varsity track boys did you guys say April 3rd was open with or Friday had softball or because right now I don't see softball in the

138third whatever whatever night you pick the third the third okay you guys you guys make the third work I can do the earlier better probably if you guys what time can you guys get here on would be 43s if we advertised it and had it um if we advertised have auditor are people watching now and understand what's going on I mean are you saying like an open like so people can ask questions they're yeah there possibility well I'm saying think so I feel like we need to wait until we have some things present to well that's what I'm saying like if you I mean people watch well yeah for sure I just didn't know if you me if we had 50 people show up the impressed if they show that I feel like if we

139don't allow the public to speak we're not like asking for their input I don't see a lot of people showing up just at the meeting I mean because they can watch on YouTube you know what I mean I could be wrong well we can open it up for public com well that's why I said is that why you were saying that I mean this is a big decision going to be invol ultimately they're going to if we did aom they not oh for sure if we're going to put in we're going to put in the time okay so knows why we've had the meeting okay so I will bring I will put together best I can estimates for current estimates of operations in each building okay you want that what else do you want from

140me do you want htk or do you want hper standler or no to them so far just like do you want operational costs I'd say no no to them or at least my opinion I say can you just send something to Piper Sandler and say hey can you just estimate some numbers for us if we spend this if we spend y 10 million if we spend 15 million if we spend you know what I mean and just get just give us a number yeah and I can send that to you ahead of time too that'd be great just so that way we kind of have an idea of hey this is gonna raise our taxes so if we the thir at 5:00 that give our meeting then will be on the N the nth enough

141time to get everything answered and I guess maybe not I feel like they should bether some maybe they are they pres I think they can turn around something yeah I mean I would think they could scale don't and we didn't have a lot of time like I know we once they were done presenting we were all kind of trying to absorb what was there and then um well we was one minute lat so I can bring that so do you want them then on a different night you want make go ahead and try to schedule them um I have tally penciled them in for our April meeting at 5: I can do a different meeting where we have them separate um I can bring Piper Sandler and them in it's whatever you guys want to

142do whatever format it doesn't matter whatever you guys want to do I I will schedule so what what are we asking HK for outside of just the feasibility or to scale of the plans they've already presented what amazing I I would like some more detail yeah um how many of these classrooms and the junior high that you had are sixth for sixth grade seventh grade because that looked really small to me I said that to you y yes um how big is that gym where are we going to do all of our band is that are they going to walk over to the high school room I don't have it in front of me but I like they ENT they showed the like a band gym and they show but they said we had outgrown

143the high school band room okay so then what was your plan for that because that was really what they dug into so that's where that band was never big enough sure they did a whole school assessment yeah for and it took them you know two months to complete and I just didn't feel like I got a lot of feedback from that and this is where I feel like Tanner's comment on I don't think a bond is what we need to do to take care of existing problems I don't either but that's what they did we paid them to do that so tell me what you gathered from that information is it is it that the bond needs to we need to build a bigger band room is that what that you know how does that

144all tie in is where I'm coming from well I think our special meeting is going to gather the information to send to them to have come clear the on that stuff what I think do do we want to when we call this meeting we do we want to just have a start time at 5 do we want to say it's only two and a half hours I mean before it gets unproduced you know sometimes you that you want to just go till we're done you go if we put an end time we got to stay here to that end time so I think we just let it go if it starts to be I can just see I can see it going a couple hours discussion for sure we'll give you the look all right

145moving along I make a motion for a special meeting on April 3rd at 5 o' afternoon okay we have a motion I'll second second all fav what the location at the DAC right here too many people show start dring chairs out to the gym We'll accomodate what we to do we have too many people all right are we good all right uh the charging station who's up for that so we're making a lot of progress uh moving forward with the charging station um being the coffee shop uh in the high school and there is an opportunity to add to that adding an online apparel shop as well uh J's has approached us and is offering a an opportunity for our students to run on their websites for our uh online apparel shop so they've already

146built a website but they will provide us the training to be able to customize it to add a different apparel different designs things of that nature um they would house all the products they would produce it um and then we would get a percent of profits that is an addition that we're looking at and this is in addition to what we do so this would not replace like the sports have their stores for their fundraisers um through local shops that is not to replace that because this is something that we can run year round so there's an opportunity to purchase apparel anytime you want versus just when those windows are available during the fundraising opportunity so this would anything that we're already doing this would opportunity for an addition two and then it would give

147the students in the entrepreneurial class um another Avenue to look at besides just the coffee shop that we're looking at it would expand that already um so I'm seeking approval from uh the board to be able to pursue that Avenue um and then the other component to that would be the revenue that is potentially generated from both the coffee shop or the charging station both the coffee portion and the apparel portion um to be able to uh address that and funnel that back into the business department um for the entrepreneur class or anything else that business partner might need uh to support it in it's called the charging [Laughter] station actually the students came up with several names and they sent a survey I just wanted to say that so everybody could hear that's on

148charging station which is very clever I love the name I thought that was really cool idea the kids came up with um and I like having them be able to design the clothes and L high schools have their own apparel stores actually print do they run through that being set aside like would you be able to sell our flags that doing that I don't know all the details of that through J's I don't know all the details of what we can add to it um but add that on our own to the charging station oh absolutely they would have like on hand app apparel too right not just have to do it online correct I got another box box my car needs to be this is a great opportunity for them to be able to

149I think also sell better also at the my BG with it was in addition to whatever else we want whatever else do we have to do it for so long no uh that is actually one of the things that we I talked with a representative about and he like you can give it a trial run and if it doesn't work for you you don't have to continue There is no obligation there is no cost to us uh it is something a service that they are providing schools that uh they work through through their other products so so they do already do this with other schools uh yes and well in our area uh we are one of 10 schools that they're initially rolling this out to to provide that opportunity yeah so do we make

150we make a percent up that uh he couldn't give me a definitive number but he thought it was 10 to 15 perish do you have the link uh I it's called the mascot shop it's like J.M mascot shop.com and then you just search for for your school um it's already I thought if you wanted to pull it up you pull it up if you could send in Amy the link but I if they wanted to see it just to see what the product like you guys if you don't it's okay I just suggest you wanted to see your own timei that it's okay it's fine I think it's great yeah you guys selling jerky too or something somewhere I see right well we've got a lot compliance hurdles to jump over that that was the

151one of the components of our entrepreneur class that wanted to and man they are go-getters but there's a whole lot of FDA regulations that we got to get through before we can officially do that okay where are you putting this so that is or do we need to make sure it's on our master eventually we have some underutilized we we actually found a modular kiosk that we could start small with and then we can expand this as we progress but then if we do some significant renovations to the high school and there's availability to build our own out yeah that would be amazing I would love to have our front entrance as you walk in here's the charging station and people can get apparel and goods and things like that so you're putting that on

152our I'll make to approve the charging station okay we had a motion in a second you want to finish now good we were just okay all right all in favor sounds awesome that's cool glad we're doing okay no 9.0 no I need 9.0 you do need 9.0 I okay I'm sorry how much um I'm just going to give you uh kind of an update on where we are negotiations negotiations 15 uh yeah you admin can leave if you guys want to leave you can go ahead and take off because I 15 minutes Mr President I move we go into executive session discuss negotiations pursuance exception for employeer employee negotiations Ona the meeting will res the boardroom at 9902 with motion second all in favor thank you guys for coming to e e e so I

153do that that make second e e e Speed on three l or do you have anything to add um we talked a lot about this ml there were some um teachers I think um that commit she was talking about they did talk about how they're selecting the students and stuff like they have like a rubri going through stuff like that um they did go over the audit there no identifi concerns like most of it was about the they're still pretty well staed yeah they PA here there but they've been able to fill every position so far after feel like in there hopeful like to have people this program and like they already have some people in mind yeah they do stared at good we're [Music] sh