001Board of Education regular working meeting 6:17 2025 at 603 the Wallace central office building. All board members are present. Hargus via Zoom. Need an approval for the agenda. Make a motion. John, do I have a second? A second. All in favor? I I public comments. Board member comments, Becky. Well, you know, I always have comments, right? So, um, a couple things. Um, just a reminder that July the 11th and the 12th is KSBA Summer Leadership in Lexington. Totally optional, but if you want to go, Jody said to let her know and she'll get you registered. Um, it's a Friday and a Saturday. They have several different options planned for hours. Again, totally optional. Um, also reminder 7:26 we've got our retreat scheduled. I did register or uh get a room there at the library, our
002local library for the the conference room. Hargus, I tried River's Edge. I can't get a hold of anybody up there. I've called them. I've emailed them. I filled out a form on their website. I asked them if maybe they could give us, you know, a tour and give us a conference room for a day. Haven't heard from them, so I just went on at the library just so we're safe. Hey, it don't hurt. It doesn't hurt to try. I'm not sure they're up and running yet, but anyway. So, the topics for the um retreat so far, I think is gifted and talented. Sounds like Amanda might have another topic that we can um add to it. So, just keep track of whatever we want to talk about. Uh, let's see. Mr. Arvin just said he's
003got some documentation to give us after the meeting. So, he'll get that to us to consider for superintendent evaluation which is coming up. Um, are we keeping um it looks looks that way. Okay. Uh there is a resource on KSBA website and Jake you might want to speak to this. It is a frequently asked questions on Senate Bill 181. This is the traceable communication bill that I'm sorry Hargus this is just kind of a mess. I mean what was the intent of this? Uh did you get my email? I did get your email. back theater is dead and there's not a single uh plug on this entire wall. But I have actually I've worked on on this. They did it there's a pretty good Q&A and um a hard print of me because we actually
004talked about this earlier today and he did send me an email um which I can pull up here with what he harus he it started off Hargus a summary. I guess you want me to read this Hargus? Yeah, that's just my summary of it. Yeah. and what I believe on it and what the intent of the law is. Uh I'll just read the part that's related to school communications, but it says the purpose of the bill. I believe the purpose of the bill is strengthening child protections in schools and state systems through communication rules, curriculum controls, and faster disciplinary and reporting action. As for the school communication restrictions, all staff student electronic communication should be through traceable district systems. no texting, social media or personal emails with students unless the parent gives written consent. The
005communication is logged and revocable. Um, so I there's a lot of issue. I mean I where where I come down at I've had a lot of districts that have gotten they're all over this thing. Some people are like this makes common sense to me. The the the spirit makes common sense to me that we don't want teachers texting, Snapchatting with students. Frankly, that's kind of where we our office comes down at, but we're kind of a little jaded. We've just seen way too many instances of teachers sending, you know, communications inappropriate. I mean, why would they weren't even inappropriate communications, but why are you sending Facebook messages with a student at like 3:00 in the morning? I mean, I don't think you should be doing that. Um, is this going to stop it? Probably not.
006I mean, maybe just move to Snapchat where it just disappears. I don't know that it stops it. Uh there's a lot of people that have raised some concerns. Well, I'm a stepparent. I'm not, you know, included in this as um somebody who can um text with my stepchild. And in a lot of small rural districts, is this going to prevent me from texting with my stepchild? It probably probably will. Another instance that was raised in one of my districts earlier this week was, you know, there one of the teachers is also a Sunday school teacher that my Sunday school teacher didn't text me, but apparently this one does text their students. You know, I don't know remember to study your Bible verse or whatever it is. They're like, well, that's going to prevent her from
007texting her Sunday school class. My response pro I mean it does on the face of it. Uh, I think that the solutions are to get a waiver. Uh, you know, allows for waivers. Uh, that you can put the burden on the teacher to get a waiver. Maybe that's unfair, but that's the law at the moment until somebody changes it. There's been some talk about, you know, should um a couple of school districts sue to stop this. They haven't. It's going to go into effect. Nobody's going to get a lawsuit and an injunction that quickly, I don't believe. Um, you know, I'm not even sure that it would be successful because, you know, a lot of people have said the teachers have said it violates first amendment right. I don't know that you ever had a
008first amendment right to to text a minor. I think I haven't I've actually had a district ask me to research that in depth, which I'm going to do later this week, but I I I believe that to be the laws. You don't have a constitutional right under current Supreme Court case law to text with a minor. You just have to communicate with the parent. And so I think the thing would survive a constitutional challenge. Got some practical issues that I think going to have to be ironed out for the time being. I think for the issues such as a step parent, okay, we'll get get your husband to sign a waiver. I mean, you know, that may be kind of clumsy, but I think that's that's where we're at for the moment. Same for the
009Sunday school class. Uh some other things like coaches are different ones have been raised. You know, you can get some systems that um you know, you for instance, I've got some dishes they're gonna they're going to use um I forget they're going to use forget the name of it, doors or rooms or whatever and they're going to create like a you know, rooms. That's but they're going to correct they're going to create like the group for the teams that you can communicate there. You know, I I think that's doable. Probably not the end of the world. I think some parents are going to, you know, actually said they want to be included in those. they can see what's being said. Right or wrong, you know, it's the law and I I think it's it's probably
010valid. It probably constitutional when I say valid. Yeah. At the end of the day, is it not truly up to the school board? Does the board the way the law is currently written? That's right. Yeah. We can approve our employees. That's right. Yes. And then some districts I mean districts are using different apps and you can use more than one and you can use more than one and you can use an app and you know email email is going to qualify. There's a couple other of of exceptions that uh I shouldn't say exceptions, I mean, but loopholes in the right, but there's a couple of other tools that, you know, some people have suggested are still being looked into, but but currently districts have the ability to monitor emails and so, you know, emails would
011be okay. the joint education committee. They went into session last month and when I get back one day we can take a trip to Frank meet with them and see if we can't maybe get them to look into redefining this bill come from VA. Well, it just seems complicated and you know, we need something simple. But anyway, I just bring it up because KSBA does have a FAQ on the website if you want to get a little more familiar with it. I was amazed at really how complicated it can be. Um, but I'm glad to know, you know, the intention of it and that, you know, hopefully some good comes out of it. Uh, I believe that is all I have. Thank you, Ashley. Yep. John, no. Vargas, how are you? All righty. Moving on
012to staff student reports. A, enrollment attendance report. Mr. Eddie Bishelman. How's attendance this month? We're winning. Attendance is the best it's ever been. No attendance report this month. We are in the summer. But how is summer school going? We're in that, right? Yes. Yes. Anything on that? We're doing good on that attendance wise. They're engaged in some projected learning at least at the upper and lower elementary enjoying that time together, but there's lots of project based learning going on. Kids are engaged and it's awesome. question. We're getting our facts. Yeah. I I I don't know how many each building brought in. I mean, that's not something I I asked. So, and there's two three-week sessions, right? Well, there's this year there's one. So, we wanted to try and do another one potentially in July in
013the future, but just budgetarily right now, we're sticking with the traditional. Okay. All right. Maybe you can get I can find out. Yeah, we'll email you much. Yeah, they'll get back to us. August. All righty. Uh, Mr. Tony Jury, CEO, is he here? No, he's in Texas. That's fine. Moving on to C. Superintendent report. Mr. David Arvin. Um, summer summer summer is moving along. Uh, I'm shocked at how busy June has been, at least for me. Uh, several meetings with the new superintendent uh, cohort work. Uh, spend a couple days in in Frankfurt. We had a superintendent session in Lexington last uh, Monday and Tuesday. So, uh just been very busy with that. Uh working through the hiring of a new upper elementary principal and all the meetings and from sight base and everything that
014go along with that. So that's uh been kept kept us hopping to say to say the least, but uh things are going in a great direction. We're excited. Uh we're kind of hitting the point where everybody is going to be taking a little bit of time off here and there, but uh we'll all be back in here second week of July ready to rock and roll and get things lined out and ready for the new year. So, and just a little side note uh that we may make an adjustment to I don't know and spoke with John earlier and if it says that in there if talking about Senate Bill 181 if the board needs to approve the communication tool that we're using that's something that may may need to potentially add to the agenda
015tonight if that needs board approval. No, I mean it doesn't if not I can discuss with them what we're going to do currently. Yeah, I mean I would discuss with what you're going to do. I mean KB just said put in your policy and your policy is not due to August. So I know there's going to be a little of you know lag lag behind there but I mean that's what everybody's doing and it'll be done before school's in session. Okay. Um so I mean it was intended to be in your policy. I mean you all could have a motion and vote if you want to approve that program that app you're okay which one you selected. Well, and that's something we can look at it tonight, but it'll be in the policy written, but
016you don't So, it really doesn't take effect though until August. It'll be before schools come in back. Okay. But but the bill itself is effective June the 27th. Wow. Okay. Yeah. The students won't be in yet. So, go ahead. Sorry. Should we hold off on that Mr. some time to look at the apps and things that uh and the principles to give them time to look at the apps and things that they may want to use. We've already been doing that. Yeah. I mean, that's part of what we've been doing. He told me um earlier today I think which one he's going to prefer to go with, but but I mean I think Yeah, KBA is not recommended that you have to to approve the app prior to the June 27th. they're uh going to
017be including it in their policy and procedure update which doesn't have to be approved by statute till the middle of August. So uh I mean if you don't want to approve that app tonight that's fine if he wants to investigate some more or if you want to be doubly cautious you could I didn't know that we had already I appreciate that. Now that's something we we've been investigating and and Mr. level has been meeting with he's met half a dozen if not more vendors uh going through kind and meeting with them kind of what we have settled on uh for this upcoming school year is class dojo is something that should be familiar to parents u they have used it in the elementary setting it meets all the requirements of of the traceable communication uh
018they do have updated some features for middle and high to make it uh less kitty uh and more, you know, teen and, you know, late teen friendly. Um, and so really easy to use. Majority of teachers should be very familiar with it. They offer, uh, free trainings. Uh, we've already got some set up. We've sent things out. We're trying to make sure coaches that have current seasons that are going right now that'll come back after the dead period have the ability to be trained and get this up and going so they can be compliant uh once July rolls around uh and and sports are moving along. um spoke with John today uh about the potential for uh maybe something a little more athletic focused uh because you know anybody with kids in sports know they
019have certain apps and those things do work better for that type of communication. U spoke with Miss Autton this afternoon about one she recommended Mr. Levelville had met with them before. Uh the hangup gets into the traceable communication piece and our issue with them was if a request came in for information, then we had to let them know, we were requesting it and then they would gather it and send it back to us. And to me, that did not meet the letter of the law that at any point in time we need to be able to have access it. That's also us, you know, them interpreting what we want to see and and not see. Like we we have no way of knowing because we don't have direct access to it. So that's why I
020told her we chose not to go with that app in lie of something where we do have physical at any point in time, Mr. Levelville could pull up, see any communication made by any member of our staff throughout the entirety of the district. So that's where we're starting. Uh so it doesn't mean if we find something that meets criteria as we transition sports seasons, maybe we could move athletics off to something else, but um right now we're going to pick one thing so we can streamline it and go with that. Uh could be potential to add a second email's always an option. Uh so that's that's kind of where we're sitting right now with that. And uh information has been sent out to principles. Um, I wasn't necessarily going to send anything out to teachers
021yet. Again, because it's a summer, there's questions that come up with that. That'll be a topic that we have for opening day, do training, help make sure that they get everything set up correctly. And by then, some of this stuff will hopefully, you know, have maybe a little more information so we can make sure information is adequately communicated to them. I don't think there is. No, I was just Oh, okay. I say add it to the retreat list and yeah, that's what I just said. And then we can discuss. If we vote on something, we're voting on something we know nothing about. I'm not a fan of that. And it may change by then, too. So, so unfortunately, I don't think it's going to change. I The law is not going to change. I don't
022think I don't think. All right. Did everybody get a chance to look at the SPDM agenda minutes and human resource actions? Yes. Okay. Moving on to six. consent agenda. Everybody get a chance to look at that? Make a motion we approve. One questional question. Yeah. Don't need a long answer or anything. Item 16, you approve out of school district applications. Yeah. Now, under House Bill 421, every one of those kids that's going out of districts, those schools could potentially charge us for those kids now. Correct. potentially potentially under certain circumstances. I Yeah, David and I talked about this earlier today. Told me you had a concern about that. I mean, I I I don't think that would happen and and I think they had to have given you notice prior to this point to charge
023for this upcoming school year. Um but there is a provision in that house bill that in in the future um you know if uh if they're going to start receiving a G county kid you know could they send you a bill potentially um you know I think there's a question should we agree or should that district have an agreement with us that they don't bill us potentially I think people are looking at that for upcoming years well our list is approving out of district to be allowed to school here. Mhm. Yeah. But I think and the district could charge us, right? Yeah. Well, it would be the reverse. It would be the reverse. And so the question would be kids that live in Gallatton are going to Grant or going to Carol. Could they send
024us a bill? Right. And the hope is that it would kind of balance out. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So he asked the question, I guess I was set up. I mean that's right. I mean it's the reverse. These are out of district applications for students coming here. Your question is about the reverse. I mean Yeah. Yeah, correct. Yeah. All right. I have a motion. John, do I have a second? No second. Ashley. All in favor? Moving on to seven. Recommended act action. New business. A review approved. Final forms agreement. What was that again? So final forms is something that athletics brought to us. Oh, that's right. um you know that high school and middle school are going to divvy up costs for that allows uh parents to be able to take a student's physical and some
025other information that they have to fill out for athletics, upload it into this now instead of the football coach having to gather all the physicals at the end of the year and give them to the basketball coach who passes them to the baseball coach. Stuff gets lost, gets torn up, it's all uploaded in there. Everything's checked. The AD has access to everything. The trainer has access to everything. They don't have to look for it on the bus. If something happens to a student, they've got their insurance information. Heaven forbid something would happen and they're at an away game. And it just puts everything in a nice tidy place that they can access on their phone. Perfect. Make a motion. We approve it. Second. I'll second. All in favor? I B. Review approve salary schedule for
026the 2526 school year. So move. Second. All in favor? I C. Review approves staff start time and end dates for 2526. Like it. Trying to beat you, Becky. You won that one. I second. All in favor? Questions? Question. Um, where do we rank? I mean, what what's how's this compared to other schools in our general area? I couldn't tell you. I didn't necessarily look um you know the reason behind it was you know was kind of brought up and I until somebody mentioned it I hadn't even looked at it to see um you know the some variety within uh teacher work times every day uh which I found you know I think the biggest difference was about 20 20 minutes uh between teachers in different buildings getting paid the same amount of money but yet
027working in in just in different buildings. So, this was this just a kind of a conformative just to level it out and then opened up a little bit of time to increase uh time with students. We still got you know bodies in the buildings 20 minutes before students arrive, 20 minutes after they leave for supervisory purposes. Uh and you know we added time to the school day for kids. So, as far as time for kids, what's the additional there? So, if you look at what's at the top, it went from 6.83 and 6.91 uh to 7 and a quarter. About a quarter of an hour. Yeah. So, you're looking 20 to 25 minutes extra built into the schedule every day. And so, if we can't do more with that, then shame on us. Yeah. Thank
028you. It's all good. Do we have a motion in the second? We do. And then we had all in favor and that was everybody but John, where were you at? So that makes us five. All right. Moving on to item 7D. Review approval of first reading of the technology acceptable use form policy for the online registration 2526 school year. What' we change on that? Anything? Oh, that's right. You said something about instead of laptops, it's devices. Yeah. Because I like to me if I'm a parent, I'm a little like, well, that doesn't cover me because my kid doesn't have a laptop. They have a iPad or Okay. whatever else. And then I added a piece in there where Google and some of those other companies now that does education, they have a rule about 13
029and under. You got to get parent that kind of covers that. And then there's some stuff in there about AI, just some suggestions. technology places about how to kind of word things in there and kind of get us going in that direction. Yep. Like we all know AI is coming. Yeah. It's here. All right. I'll move to approve. Do I have a second? Second. All in favor? I opposed. I had a feeling that's why I had to ask that. All right. 41. Item E, review approved school resource officer SRO agreement with the G County Sheriff's Department 2526 school year. No changes to that. No, ma'am. Worked well last year. Yes. Very well, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Becky, is that a motion? Yes. Okay. Thank you. Do I have a second? Hargus. All in favor?
030I. Are we going to adjourn and then were we going to talk about yours or did we decide we're doing that under a treat? You're just giving us copies. Yeah, I'm just I'm just giving you copies of everything. Item eight, adjournment. That's mine. Gotcha. John, do I have a second? You take it. Ownership, Ashley. All in favor? I 5. All right. Thank you.