Nelson County Board of Education Meeting July 22nd, 2025

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002flag this direction on the front of the building. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. How you doing? >> In the Nelson County Schools, we unite students and staff with people, place, and purpose to thrive and work in life. All right. Meeting goals and agenda for tonight are um to learn about preschool and child care programs, discuss SB 181 updates and best practice, and evaluate the district facility priorities and next steps. So, starting off this evening, we will be um listening to Miss Hope Dory of learning more about the early childare center and the childare team. All right. So, first I just wanted to introduce Miss Samantha Ingmanson. She is

003the new ELC director here at this building. So, she has kind of a big job um because as you know, we've added a new program to this space. So, within this space, we have three programs. Um, we have our infants to two-year-old programs for our staff. Um, and then we have our enrichment which allows us to have full day preschool. And then we have our federal preschool program in this building uh for the fost the kids who go to Foster Heights and Coxus Creek. So, we have lots going on, lots of busy um little legs moving and and brains going. So, we have lots of people in this building, too. So, so Samantha's going to have a big job, but we're excited. She's going to continue that work um with those three, bringing them together

004and continuing our work with kindergarten readiness and just getting our um the most kids we can in our program. So, those are her two big goals for this year. So, really tonight, we wanted to focus on the staff um child care. So, if you could just It's going to be kind of quick, but uh we're excited. Here's one of our babies uh that's coming. His name is Rowan. So, Rowan's coming. Uh August 4th, we open our doors to infants to two-year-olds. So, it's super excited. Um I didn't take the mic while I go, but I'm just going to take just a minute. I had to look this up. So, on February 6th, I sent a text message at 8:03 p.m. to Mr. Bradley and I said, "I think we could offer staff care for birth

005to three at reasonable cost, blah blah blah blah. We could do this." You know, I go on and on. Well, he just simply writes back, "I trust you." So that just again shows you what kind of leader he is. So from that moment February 6 to now we were able to go with HR team and finance and uh just learn about different programs and what might happen. Um I think Jessica Rogers was like you know for a little bit but she was able to go see the programs too. We visited different counties and uh we made it happen in a short period of time and that was due to our team here at the ELC and uh our district team. So, we have 25 kiddos coming starting August 4th. It's going to be open year

006round because we first we were like, we're only going to go on the school calendar, but then we had our lots of people like, well, I need summer care. So, we have um several almost 15 one-year-olds that need summer care next year, so we're actually going to be open in the summer, too. Uh we just recently received our state license, so they came, visited our rooms. Um they're ready to go. So, we were able to get that piece of paper that says we're able to open. So, we're excited about that. Um, and it's open to all children and grandchildren and full-time staff. So, and we're looking to expand that. So, here we are. Exciting. >> So, Samantha, if you could just tell us a little bit about your journey, uh, getting here today as you

007think about we were having this conversation earlier as you walk through the building. Uh, it's a really a wide ecosystem that you'll be leading, but just tell us a little about your journey and that you think is is useful today. >> It's a really exciting opportunity. I have a very diverse background. I've worked in birth through three, child care, K through five. And so, it's really exciting to see all of that come together under one roof. And when we were talking earlier as we were touring the rooms, one of the things that came up was the excitement of being able to watch those babies that are coming into our infant room and see them as they progress through our programs and watch them as they move into our enrichment, child care, and our preschool programs

008and then onto our elementary school. So, we're really excited about that journey. We have a phenomenal staff here and we're just ready to get the year started. >> Thank you guys. >> And just real quick, I left out Miss Paige Culver. Uh she is the center lead here and she's over we're calling our tiny trailblazers is our staff childcare. So, she's over that tiny trailblazer. She couldn't be here tonight, but uh she's been awesome. If you get to tour the rooms, she did all of that work. So, praise to her for that. >> Thank you so much. We're excited to see the um innovation that continues and I 100% agree seeing the kids start here and knowing that they're going to progress throughout the years and we get to see that and you're laying those

009foundations early. So, thank you so much for being here tonight. >> Thank you. >> All right. Before we move on, I want to kind of um share a little bit. Prior to the board meeting started, we had a celebration of the superintendent and um not everyone could join us, of course, so I want to make sure that we share that with the community. Superintendent Bradley was um appointed to be a sup part of the superintendent advisory committee for Kentucky and he represents our region. And I think this is um due to a lot of things. Part of the innovation that goes on in Nelson County schools, part of it, um the people that make him look really good, our educators, our principles, the kids. Um, and I think just him being able to encompass what

010we want for Nelson County Schools is important. Um, I'm bringing this to the table because I think it's important that anytime something really good happens in Nelson County, there's always those people that want to kind of get um, in the middle of it. And I want to set the record straight. No one on this board had anything to do with that advisory committee. As a matter of fact, I found out about it just a few weeks ago and not even from the superintendent. I found out from um a person from central office. This is peer placement. These are superintendent from the cohort that we work with that put Superintendent Bradley's name in a in the pot and basically voted him into this position. Um and this isn't legislative driven. This is driven by his peers

011and Dr. Lee, you can probably talk a little bit more about that, but I think it's important that we understand how this works. The process is that each co- educational cooperative in the state and there are eight co-ops have at least two members on the state superintendent advisory council. And the process to select those members is that a peer must nominate a person and um during one of the in-person meetings. It is done in person. Pier a peer makes a nomination and then a vote is held in person and the co-op board selects the representatives. And so the CKE um co-op has a total of three members representing and Mr. Bradley will be serving on a three-year term. And so it um it truly is something selected by peers. We have some various advisory councils

012that serve um the state and he he is an adviser to the uh Commissioner Fletcher. I believe Commissioner Fletcher is not the first person to have this. It's a long-standing process and it is truly representative of people who are considered to be innovative and to provide um direction for forward movement in our state. And it's not just a a token council. It's a working council. They are are listening and listening for um looking for true feedback. So, congratulations to you, Mr. Bradley. >> Thank you guys for taking space to uh celebrate that. Again, you know, if we've learned anything over the past um few years, it's important to continue to tell our story in Nelson County. Uh there's some important work occurring uh and our educators have taken huge risks to continue to level up

013over the past few years. Uh amidst uh some push back within the community and I think at the same time um people have continued to work so closely together to grow. We're seeing the dividends pay off and we're going to continue to see that momentum uh in the year ahead. We're just fortunate to have people across our district that have given more of themselves year after year to level up for kids. Uh and we we're going to continue to see a lot of fruits from that labor. So, thank you guys. Know that this is just a a small part of a larger conversation across the state about the future of accountability, the future of how do we create spaces for students that are going to create value for community. Those things are important to the

014future of the work of government >> and it it really is something that we're going to incorporate into our ongoing process. The superintendent will um bring that information back to our board so that we can look at the future of Nelson County and how we're going to implement some of the changes that that this committee will bring to light for education in Kentucky. So, I'm excited um that that we have representation um in this and that we have someone who's going to be able to help guide us even further as we go along. So, again, yes, we congratulate the superintendent. I did not have any sign up for guest comments. Um so, with that, we are going to move on. So, consent agenda was sent out to the board um prior to the board meeting.

015Is there any questions regarding the consent agenda? If not, we will need a motion to approve the consent agenda. >> I'll make a motion. >> Thank you, Dr. Lee. Do I have a second? >> I'll second. >> Thank you, Miss Deon. Um, all in favor? >> I. Any opposed? All right. Motion passes. All right. Moving on. We have Senate Bill 181. >> Sorry, it should be grant acceptance. >> Oh, sorry. It is. I I skipped one. I apologize, Dr. Shearhorn. >> So, Dr. Sheerhorn will be talking about a grand acceptance. >> Um, actually, tonight I'm presenting on behalf of Maline Tucker, who was unable to join us tonight, but she wanted um to celebrate um our annual um partnership with WH uh Crusade for Children. And through that partnership, um, she wanted to remind you

016all that we do that annual bunny bash where we, uh, raise funds that we contribute back to the crusade for children. Um, and this past year they were able to raise $5,000, um, which is an annual increase, and they look to continue that trend. Um, but, um, for I'm looking at my notes that she wanted me to make sure I highlighted. Um and then this year um they have awarded us a grant to uh continue to support our work with our music therapist in the amount of 33,000 which will pay um part of her salary. >> Fantastic. All right. Is there any discussion on the WH grant? >> I certainly appreciate WH and their long-standing commitment to our district. I know it's gone back for many many years and they um give a substantial amount

017annually. So >> kudos to them. >> And just to highlight the bunny bash as what this was the third year. >> This was our third annual I believe. Yes. >> Um it is becoming a district-wide celebration and I think it it is also gives a community our community a chance to give back um to WH and the crusade. So um it's a win for everyone around. So with that, any further discussion? >> All right, we need a motion to accept a grant from WH Crusade for Children as presented. >> I'll make a motion. >> All right. Thank you, Doc. Mr. Norman, do I have a second? >> A second. >> All right. Thank you, Jody. All in favor? >> Any opposed? All right. Motion passes. >> Thank you all. >> Thank you, Dr. Shearhorn. >>

018Now, moving on to the thorn in the side of many people, SP 181. So, we're just going to provide a brief update as it relates to Kentucky um community technical college system. Uh but we also wanted to talk a little bit more about Senate Bill 181 as it relates to the work going on in the Nelson County schools. Miss Arnold is going to talk through KCTCS and that specifically. >> As I think you all have been reminded numerous times, we have around 6 to 700 students a year that uh participate in dual credit courses. And a majority of those are through the Kentucky Community and Technical College System. And due to Senate Bill 181, they have provided um a letter to all districts asking that boards of education approve their form of communication. And we

019would have to click actually on the document they sent to identify those because I don't have those. >> It's right here. >> Yeah, those three areas that are listed. So, um, just basically asking permission that KCTCS instructors and staff within the community college communicate to our students through these sources. >> Will this also cover any other universities in which um we have students enrolled? >> Uh, this one is only for KCTCS. >> Do you anticipate having um future agreements with other partners? >> I assume that will be the case to be honest. I do not know the answer to that because I think KCTCS was trying to be proactive in taking an additional step to do this. >> I think we can assume each month we'll probably be revisiting this for a couple months. Um

020and >> and we don't really have any outofstate. Do we have out of state? So >> yes, we have Columbia Southern University. >> I'm assuming they would have to comply with the state >> Yes. regulations. This time I'm not aware that we have any students enrolled with them. >> Okay. >> They are the only out of state that we have. >> Is this a memorandum of agreement or is it just a blanket like a voted approval? >> We're simply approving Blackboard, Outlook, and Starfish. Those are what the KCTCS system operates within. So, this would allow for students to communicate with professors through those systems. Is it possible and we may need to ask our attorney is it possible to amend the motion to say approve blackboard outlook and starfish as traceable communication systems for KT

021KCTCS and postsecary partners. Is that something? >> Yeah. Would that work? Yes. That way we will not have to revisit it every month. >> Yes, that would be smarter motion. >> Thank you for the recommendation. I must have just deleted the slide. Do we need a parameter that well I guess if it's outlook it is traceable if it's a post-secondary partner or can we say maybe accredited post-secondary partners that would ensure it? >> Tim any advice there? Looks good to me. >> Sounds good to me. >> Okay. Accredited post. >> I mean our only partners to date are Columbia Southern Western uh ECTC and Eastern Kentucky University. Part of the discussion I had heard would be, for example, if a student was enrolled in a course and one of our teachers happened to be an

022instructor for that university, it could create a situation um just accidentally. So that would be nice to not have to do it monthly if we know the add other systems if needed. >> Big picture. I also wanted to give a shout out to Mariah Beasley, the family communications team, Melissa Hayes, for the work you did in June um on the parent messaging and staff messaging. And what you guys weren't able to see, fortunately for you, is that uh we filled lots of questions through a Google form and Mariah responded to every one of those questions individually. Um and she was able to give specific examples. Um, and I will say it was, you know, some of that was AI assisted work because the it had so many layers to Senate Bill 181 that we had

023to continue to to sort through. It's safe to say that the Senate Bill 181 will be modified and improved in the future to allow for some more common sense practices to be allowable. I think at this time we know that the intent of the law comes from a good place to uh protect students uh from uh communication that is unsafe. However, there are consequences to some bills and laws that play out in a way that are not common sense. And I think it's I think the legislators are owning that. I think they recognize that, you know, there's the intention is good that that there's going to be modifications to the bill over time. Uh they seem to be in a good place and I think all the legislators that I've talked to have been very

024positive in framing it as a continuous improvement effort. >> I would encourage anyone to look at the recent KDE guidance that was released last week because it also provides clarification. Um, so it's it's a good document >> and I'm going to look at it from a positive perspective. If you have kids in multiple schools in Nelson County or across the state, you are now going to have access to those kids in a central location. Um, so sports activities, everything that all that communications on one instead of three different apps, whether it's team, reach, or remind, they're all going to be in that one location, at least in Nelson County on parent square. So, it is a win if you've got m multiple kids and other schools and you want one location to go to. It's

025a real big win for that. So, I know we're going to go through some hiccups. Um, and I do believe that the legislative body is also going to clarify some information in that. Um, but it's going to be a good thing once we get used to it. It's like everything else. We got to get give it some time and um adapt, but it's going to be good in the end. >> And the Thomas Nelson workforce team has been burning it up. So, right, you Parent Square been burning up our new system and it's been working great. So fantastic. So any further discussion? All right. With that, we need a motion to approve Blackboard, Outlook, and Starfish as traceable communication systems for accredited postsecary partners. >> I'll make a motion. >> All right. Thank you. I

026need a second. >> I'll whomever. >> I'm going with uh Miss Deon. She was a little bit louder. All right. All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? >> Motion passes. All right. Now, we are going to be talking about college and career advising update. We um mentioned this a little bit back in June and now these wonderful people standing in front of us get to talk a little bit about all the work they've been doing this summer. >> Yeah. So, I'm going to introduce them and then I'm going to kind of walk away. um because they are the ones leading this work. But not on the agenda, um I need to also shout out the tech team with the parent square because had it not been for them, I mean they were in the

027grind of making that happen as quickly as they did and they're still um building something. So like phenomenal. Thank you Colin. Thank you Jesse Aaron and um I just left somebody out. Cody. Yeah, they they killed it. So really appreciate the work that they put into that. >> So I'm going to introduce you to uh this team representing uh BMS is Mallalerie Kroom. Thomas Nelson Mallerie is counselor at BMS. Michelle Connley is workforce leader at Thomas Nelson. Amber God used to be workforce leader and now is transitioning to counselor at Nelson County. and then Christian Reynold, student services coordinator at El Kentucky Home Middle School. And um they are really leading the way in thinking about supporting our students um through thriving in work and life. And so I'm going to pass the mic and

028the clicker over to these guys. Um I'm Christian Reynold. I'm from Oakuck Hill Middle School and we actually just represent a small group of people that have been doing the work on u this advising council. It's a super cool experience. So for the past few years um the Nelson County District has offered leadership pathways and each year they get better and better. Um, this year was pretty phenomenal in that you see in this picture where we not only brought together uh administrators from the Nelson County District, teachers, but you see students, you see parents that are teachers, you see all kinds of community members that are coming together to find out what we need to make what we have even better. Um, so just like it says, parent, community partners, students, parents, counselors, workforce leaders,

029and school admin at the table figuring out what worked and how we can improve and get even better the systems we had we have already. So what was cool about it is that families sat down. There were like eight different rotations that administrators and teachers got to go through with eight different families that students uh and their families spoke to how Karen Connect and the advising has gone for them uh through their experience at the Nelson County Schools. So this picture we talked about it earlier we love it because it just represent everybody's represented in this picture. So when you think about it, it all starts with care and connect. This is a daily opportunity that we give to our students in the Nelson County school systems where they are able to learn how to

030care for themselves, each other, and their communities while developing skills and mindsets to develop their future stories. In that we also give them a place to strengthen relationships and also have a consistent safe place where they can grow academically, socially and emotionally which helps them thrive in work and life. Right. So um Amber God, school counselor at Nelson County High School. What we're looking at now is an annual plan. Um, what came out of everyone working together that was really beneficial this summer is we did a 6 through 12 content alignment, which means no matter what school students go through 6 through 12, no matter what grades they are, everyone's kind of working on the same thing at the same time. Um, so even though they're middle school and I'm high school, we're still able

031to say this week we're working on this, this week we're working on this, um, and actually lay that out for the whole year. So that was really beneficial, um, and will be for our students. Hello Michelle Connley from Thomas Nelson Workforce Leader. So to to support sorry to support our plans that we worked on um we have created as a group and as a district um what's called a power up backpack. Every student 6 through 12 will have this power up backpack. And what it does it covers these three um crucial areas. college and career pathways, mind, body, community, and academic achievement and enduring skills. So, they will work within those across the district. Amber said, it's all aligned across the district 6 through 12. Uh they'll work on the same lesson type plans. They'll

032be able to interact within their power um powerup backpack. Um as you see on the bottom, I know they're really small. We're not going to get into the details of those, but those are the documents that every student will be working in in each of those three areas. And what's really cool about this is that our goal is every quarter that every student 6 through 12 gets advising with their care and connect leader one- on-one to touch point, make sure they're they're on track, talk about their reflections and the goals they have set, and make sure they have their celebrations included in that as well. and that will happen every quarter. The last piece that we're here to talk about is our pathways, including our middle schools. Um, this is something that started last year.

033Um, so we really reflected on that during this time and wanted to talk about how we can improve communication through our middle schools and into the high schools. Now that we have eighth graders taking high school classes, what does their path look like as a freshman if they've already taken that course that they would have taken as a freshman in in the collab? And this is already existing for our high school students. So our goal is to really create, you can see in the top um right corner how that's already existing. You can see year one, year two, year three, and it has a path of what courses they need to be in to be successful in their collabs. So we are adjusting to to really align our middle schoolers that are getting a step

034ahead to um where they can continue that leveling up once they attend um their high schools. And one last thing, this could not have come at a more perfect time because we just we're announcing this I guess tonight. Um Nelson County Schools, Nelson County is involved in a national network which we are one in five states that have been invited to do this. We are one in three counties in this state along with Spencer and Henderson um to collaborate to do middle school career exploration and a learning network. So I think that's pretty powerful. We have a lot to celebrate. >> That is very powerful because I think that's something we've talked about for the last few years is how do we um get our middle school students ready for high school? Not just with

035math and reading. We know we got to get that, but how do we get them to explore all of the opportunities that await them? Um, and it has to come earlier than that eighth eighth grade walkthrough that our kids have all been exposed to, but for like what 15 20 minutes. Um, this I think is really going to open that that up. Um, my question really to you guys is the the event that happened over the summer. I'm sure you guys have been working more than that one time, but um, where do you see the winds? Where do you see the opportunity that's really going to be powerful when you sit down with a student to talk talk them through their backpack? I got I got this shot. Um, personally, I think the win is

036going to be the student owning this backpack and then being able to revisit it. Um, so often when I'm advising students, it's like, what's your ACT score? Um, let me find that. So, it's more just like here is all this information. What clubs have you been involved in? Well, they've probably been involved in 20, but they can't name one. So, I think this is just essentially a a resume, but a resume that hits all features of students and it's just where they can revisit it. So, I think that's going to be the biggest win is for them to own that and be able to have something that keeps that together. >> Is the power up backpack integrated into family table conversations and parent conversations? And can you talk a little bit about that? probably not

037yet just because it's newly implemented and we want to get the students involved with that. But it will start if not the first three days, the first full week of school with students. They'll be interacting with this weekly. Um and it's something they will know. I'm sure that our is it winter spring community tables that is where we'll really show parents, you know, and highlight what their students been doing. I love the fact that you're going to revisit it like you know because I think we all have that beginning of the school year we sit down we know we're going to where we're going to be but mid year where are we um what do we need to focus on and I love that you're laying it out almost like a college here's your path

038if this is where you're heading and this is all of the wonderful things you get to do to get you there. Um I love the looks of it and I know you guys have been working hard. I hope you're as excited as I am. I'm >> excited for the district to have a common lang. I mean, we always have common language, but this will be so cool. It'll be easier for our middle school students as they transition to high school and then high schoolers into >> I think the the importance of revisiting this quarterly will be vital to our students so that it becomes something that they can come back to and it helps them think about what they're doing now being connected to their future. Some students just do that inherently and they know

039exactly what they want to do, but most students don't. And so the idea is to open opportunities and doors so that they can think. And I think this helps remind them what they do now becomes part of their future too. And kudos to our um classroom leaders for the 612 content alignment. I think that is so important. And I know that the research shows the the benefit to our students because our teachers can collaborate professionally and be in conversation and and grow and expand from one another. So >> well and I know I'm going to take one more thing because I think this is important. We have talked a lot about, you know, why why does our high school not have this chemistry class or why does this high school not have this AP class?

040If we don't have intentional learning in middle school, those kids aren't going to come in in ninth and tth grade and say, you know what, I think I want to take a chemistry class. We have to get them excited about chemistry in sixth grade, seventh grade, eighth grade, so that they demand it from us in high school. This is intentional. And I think that to me is what really stands out more than anything when you're looking at that 6 612 and you're looking about thinking about that grade to grade. We want them coming to us and saying we need these classes and us not trying to figure out what they want. And I think that in itself um will pay off. We're not going to see it immediately. I think you said, you know, this

041is a work in progress, but two, three years from now, we're going to be seeing the impact of this in our high schools and what our kids are demanding. So, kudos again for all the work you guys have done. >> Thank you all. >> Yeah. >> All right. Next on we are facility plan priorities um with Mr. Martin. >> All right. All right, good afternoon. So, I'm just going to start off really um with just a kind of where have we been conversation uh just kind of update you guys on current kind of the current status of different projects and then really open the floor up for you guys discussion and thinking about what's next. So, really that question at the top I think that's really what's guiding the discussion here tonight. What is most

042important to move forward? Uh just a just a reminder, uh this is really the conversation we led with with you guys and also with the LPC and thinking about the future of facilities in Nelson County Schools and how do we uh be very effective with student performance, but also at the same time, how can we be efficient from a resource allocation standpoint? And this really guided much of our work and the discussion. Again, just a reminder that really uh this has been an ongoing conversation, but recently uh all the way back for the last months. Um all these LPC meetings, lots of folks getting together um to think about the future of schools. And at this juncture, the LPC produced a DFP that has now been approved by KDE. And if you Google Nelson County

043Schools DFP project or DFP, this is the first link that pops up. So that's kind of where we've been. um many of the facilities on the DFP. These are kind of the ones we've we've been in discussion about and just want to take a moment to kind of update like where are we currently in each of these projects and you can see on the left it's really there's many more steps than three but to kind of just break it down real general a three-step process to to get the facility into a construction phase. uh starting with schematic design and really just a generic design of you know what you're wanting to create that'll take anywhere from three to six months. Uh following that once that's approved you then move into construction documents that are more

044official documentation much more detailed really the blueprints of the facility that could take around 6 months. Following that you'd get into bidding and then after that actual construction. So really the two projects on the far left uh these are obviously underway the upcenter and transportation and bus garage uh even last month you guys remember you took a tour of the uh upcenter facility and even in that last month lots have changed in that space because they're working in there every day. Um but that's obviously those projects are furthest along. So then looking at what's next, uh Thomas Nelson project is further along in that the actual blueprint or construction documents have been completed. Uh the others are not as far along. So again, this is just kind of an update on where have we been

045and also the current status. And I think really what's next is kind of open the floor up for you guys and thinking about, you know, which project you want to discuss and also talking about possible next steps with each of these. So this is the document that I had requested last month that reflects the status of each building that's listed in the um facility plan and where we may be and um I had requested that because I wanted to see where we are. Can you refresh us on what the yellow sunshine? >> Right. So, I'd say the yellow sunshines are really discussion as a lot of discussions were occurred at that general stage for that project, but it hadn't been completed per se uh at that step. >> It's a a loading symbol. The as

046an example in Nelson County High School, the schematic design process was underway and then we stepped back uh as part of a master planning process. So really it would need to be that loading process would need to be reinitiated under that new master plan hypothetically. So that's why it's there. Same in New Haven. Uh schematic design has occurred. Construction documents were loading. >> I had called for this because I wanted to see what we had done and accomplished that possibly could be used and is an opportunity for cost savings which I think is very important um for us to consider as board members if we choose to move forward with any projects. Um, when I think about projects, I I think that New Haven is recognized throughout this community as having um the greatest need,

047that that facility has um some opportunities for um addressing pieces that will help it um I guess kind of on I hesitant to use the word maintenance, but ongoing things that happen that do become maintenance issues. because if you wait until you are in crisis in facilities then it can be very difficult to move forward. We see the number of years it takes to go through the process. So to me New Haven is a where I would like to begin our discussion. Yeah. I think that I think it's important to um to really celebrate that something that we learned not just in this process but in past processes that our facility teams have been incredible. Our maintenance staff is incredible because we do not have a building in crisis. Do we have buildings that are

048um past their time to have some renovation? Absolutely. But we do not have buildings in a crisis situation and that is due to a maintenance team that continues to monitor and upkeep. Our facility leads in our buildings do a fantastic job of monitoring and upkeeping our buildings. So, I think that Nelson County Schools has been has really been put in a great position because of that. Because we don't have buildings in crisis, we have the opportunity and the LPC had the opportunity to focus on students and what student needs were and how we were going to advance our kids across this district. And um I think in agreement with um Dr. Definitely New Haven and is a school we need to start with discussion. So there's no doubt that we've been there before. We need

049to start there. So with that, >> New Haven's my number one priority. It's been put on the back burner way too long. We do have some issues. I won't say major, but they are they're moving that way. Guys, we we need to take the blinders off and start looking at New Haven hard. New Haven needs it and deserves it. That community deserves a new school. >> I I agree. I'm with you. I think probably we would all say that New Haven. Um and and then second on that last list for me would be Nelson County High School. Um because I think that's going to be pretty significant and it's an investment we need to we need to take on after New Haven. I would do it in that order. New Haven then Nelson County. >>

050I agree. >> Yeah. So, the district facility plan um we're we need to establish a budget on what New Haven School um because I believe we have some documents that we have to sort of close out um because they're part of the O district facility plan. Is that correct? believe Stephen, you talked about we have to close out some pro we have to close some documents out on New Haven >> and um give that give that space a budget >> for if we're going to if we're going to reset the budget, we would have to um we'd have to start a new BG1 under a new budget. >> Yeah, maybe we should have Mr. Ward come up with this. >> This is M Mr. This is Mr. pick it job on New Haven just so

051it's not really fair to put Stephen up there on this one. So, um I share that as a larger, you know, Stephen will be able to speak to it. Um but Jeff is not here tonight. So, that's a >> Mr. Ward, would you move over just so we can hear you if you you know, as we talk, please? And I I think our audience and at home would appreciate that, too. >> Stephen does have a thorough understanding of all of our facilities. He he also understands the the process for BG1s etc. >> Correct. So really I think the question that I started with was what's the most important next step? Right. So each facility I think that is the question that the board wants to consider. What's the most important next step? Uh one of

052the discussions most recently that you guys have had has been around monetary alignment towards New Haven school. So I think that is a discussion u for most important next step. Just as a reference, the last conversation the board had officially was in Novemberish of 2024 uh related to New Haven and it was reentering it around how do we uh restructure New Haven to not be as big of a project at that time. This model was presented that was more of a $5 million model. Um so uh that was the last conversation. It was a brief conversation but that was in November. This same conversation occurred during the district facility planning process. Uh we talked about some of the important priorities for drop off. We talked about the cover between a gym and the school. Uh

053uh essentially these are the only conversations that have happened in the last 10 to 12 months. So we give you some context on that. Does this plan satisfy what the LPC considered and the what's reflected in the district facilities plan? >> I think the you know the LPC one important element was to create as much flexibility as possible on the DFP for the board to really establish priorities um in terms of how they wanted to move forward. So, but ultimately, yes, work and renovation for the New Haven facility is definitely itemized on the DFP. I think $5 million is a sufficient number to start with with New Haven. I think that would give um the architects some space to sort of build out what a 21st century um look what we're looking for in this.

054And that would be my suggestion is starting there. >> I don't believe that would touch it. I don't think that'd be enough to give them a sufficient school. >> What does that provide the five million? >> It depends. I think right now what he has on there is a is a restructured facade and entrance for parents. You can see on the front there. Uh as well as a new um a new entrance. The entrance is a part of the challenge with the cafeteria and the way the front office is structured. Um, it also uh changes the way the media center interacts with some of the outdoor space. It changes some of the classroom spaces. It adds a connector between the gym and the school. U really, we don't know exactly what he would recommend for

055the $5 million because we've never provided that specific budget. This was this was the conversation between him and the construction manager in Novemberish October Novemberish of last year. conversation of him. Who is him? >> Oh, sorry. Mr. Picket and Mr. uh Codell. So, this was the this was kind of where they landed. Uh my last conversation with Mr. Picket was uh ensuring that he had a budget that he could treat it as if he was making an investment uh as if it was his own building and allowing him to be creative in that. uh that was the last time that um we really reinitiated him because we hadn't spoken in that six-month window of time uh because the project had stalled out. >> It feels a little arbitrary to me and maybe this is just

056me but just to throw a budget out there without knowing whether that meets you know with the teachers and the principles and you know whe how much of that we're really hitting you know it just feels arbitrary. Now, I do understand we need budgets. That's a really important thing. But just to throw how much it just feels like maybe lipstick on a pig, so to speak. If we're just freshening up a space, but not really getting into the problem. Are we going to be doing this again? I mean, you know, in the next. So, I just would want to make sure that if we're investing that we're not, you know, throwing good money after bad. If a space needs to be completely redone, I know that's going to be pretty significant, but let's do it.

057Let's do it once, you know, instead of doing it over and over. So, it's hard for me to just pick a number and say let's that's our budget. You know, >> Mr. Ward, what is the importance of having a number when we Is that important? >> Yes, >> it's primarily important in that to initiate a project with a BG1, there has to be a starting budget. um wherever that budget comes from, whether it's money that you want to commit to the project or that you've already identified the things that you want and have an estimate for that. Either way, you can't initiate the project without that. >> Is it possible to get get a number, see what can be done for that, and then make amendments and adjustments? Is that something that boards commonly do?

058>> Absolutely. Once you've established the BG1 uh with a vote, you can then subsequently revise it to match the scope of the project you're actually pursuing. >> I would very much like for us to get moving because as you said, you know, we've this has been sitting and not moving forward. >> I think we need a starting point. >> It's been 10 years ago we voted it down. They voted down. Well, our board voted down at time. But guys, we got some major issues here. plumbing, floors, roof, heating and air. We got some major issues down here. >> So, if we initiate a a BG1 and we can get that started, that will then generate for us information about what the pressing needs may be, electrical, plumbing, and other and if those will be addressed

059within that budget. Is that correct? >> All right. So I think I think one discussion is really just getting the architect to re-engage back into the project. >> That's what Yes. >> So I think again question is what's the most important next step? So I think that authorizing that uh and and he could even maybe even bring in some options in terms like here's maybe what you could consider. Um but I think having a BG1 in August with an initial amount perhaps and again as Stephen indicated based on the scope of the project that BG1 can be revised and adapted. I'm ready to take action tonight on to get things moving on New Haven so that we can get this back in the hands of an architect so that we can have this conversation. So,

060what what do we need to do? >> What motion do we need to approve? So, we need to put a number on it. So, if we're going to do 5 million, um >> I would like to go higher than that. I think we're going to end up higher than that. >> It's hard to imagine. >> That would be a starting point, right? >> It would be a starting expense. Can I ask this? If we say five or four or five or whatever number and then we come back and we need to do more, are we, you know, is it an expense to the district when we just keep go bringing it back to the table? I mean, nobody works for free. We understand everything, >> right? Mo most of those associated fees are really percentage

061based, right? So, if the project costs more, then the fee would be more. >> Okay. So I just want to re I don't want to you know re I don't want to revisit the past in detail but in 2024 we had conversations as a board about the New Haven project and everyone that I was aware of at that time agreed that it was moving in a direction that was too expensive and that we needed to reenter that around something that was going to be more viable. And the number at that time that we've been talking about publicly for the last six months in the LPC especially was around $5 million. What you can achieve with $5 million, we don't know for sure. Uh we can't say every detail. But I just want to acknowledge that

062because that is a part of the past that is true that leads us to have this slide tonight. >> Well, and I think another issue though at that time was the number of students that this this was created. The plan was envision more students and at that point the the middle schoolers had been moved to another. So we had fewer students in that building. I think that also impacted the >> well from the original district facility plan it was always going to be a K5 um >> and there or P5 sorry P5 and I think again it did there were shifts there were shifts last year in the fall and um the 23 year as well. So, um I I still believe we should stay in that $5 million range starting out so we can

063get an understanding of what um they can come up with. If we have to make adjustments, we make adjustments, but this at least gets it moving. And um that would be my recommendation. Again, Mr. Ward, I I know this was not your project, but you are an architect, so you'll you'll have awareness, I think. So if we name five million, they would be able to come back and tell us if that is insufficient. Is that correct? Like >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Oh, >> I appreciate you stepping up. >> Was I mean those drawings were pretty much designed. They were exactly right. >> 70% done. So that budget was anywhere there was like 10 alternates that were associated with it. So maybe the gym uh connector was one and the there's a

064pipe you see that skinny green uh line there. There's a pipe that has to be rerouted through there. This budget was 6 million to 16 million for this school. >> Right. >> From start to finish it. >> Exactly. You're exactly right, >> David. Let me just revisit the Let me just revisit November of 2024. That is true. we it was moving towards 15 to$16 million and then that's why the board chose to to sit on it at the time. So I share that to say we know that that was where the project was headed. Yes. Uh and that's why there was no action taken. >> I think what I'm wanting to know is what comes back to us will it I know it will include like these different pieces. Will it have values assigned to

065those so that we if we are trying to you know if it's I'm just throwing a number if it turns out in the $20 million $25 million range we would be able to choose you know based on need and what's urgent what could be trimmed back is that correct >> that occurred last time the architect worked with Kodell to kind of generate an itemized list of this item would cost about this much and um That's right. So, and the reason that we were we wanted to to provide a budget was at the time uh there was a discussion that it was too it was it was too expensive. >> Where did the $5 million come from if it wasn't sufficient? >> It was really at the >> district facility plan we had the original budget

066budget in 21 for New >> Haven. It was also there was a discussion about the there was a discussion about 165 to 180 students and the relationship to the larger district reality and where that fits within it. So by percentage 5% of students or less were attending the school. We were thinking about that in the context of the larger hole for a a 10 to 20 year decision. Um and I mean that was that was the at that time that was some of the conversation. So I think there as Miss Deon said there were some concern about those numbers uh and everyone agreed the school uh no one was interested in transitioning the school into anything else. Everyone wanted to maintain the school, but they also recognized that it uh wasn't it didn't need to

067necessarily become a new school because a new school would be upwards of $20 million and if you were to do every touch every piece of it, uh that's not a new school, but it's a new school within that footprint without touching some of the gym and some other pieces. But I share that as that's context from the past about New Haven. Well, if if six to 16, is that kind of the range that you mentioned >> realistically for this project? storm pipe new facade on the front grading it was there was 10 alternates if I remember >> right >> okay then I would be interested in raising the number for the if we're starting out to something more like eight to 10 just to be more realistic but whatever could we start with eight and

068then add two as we see what those options are because it's also these schematics were done it's been >> I think the BG1 can always be revised Right. I think what's important is authorizing the architect to really explore some possible options and get because currently he's not working. Right. So authorizing him to re-engage in the project under a generic budget and then possibly he can even bring some options in terms of like this is what you want to pursue. This is about how much that would cost. Then I would like to proceed with a motion to authorize what you tell us what it needs to say, but essentially authorize the architect to begin like designing what they need to do for the BG1. Um, >> so I guess the motion would just need to include

069a number in it to for the budget for the introductory budget. >> Do we need to close out the BG1 from the previous previous? So from a formality standpoint really with many of these projects um so the scope may remain the same but as you can see the budgetary assignment may be different. KD will want us to close out the prior BG1s and initiate a new one. So we'll have those documents ready in August if that's that's what you guys want to do. >> I think that's >> I would I would like to make the motion then to close out the existing BG1. this it's not something we were doing tonight, right? Really, I think it's something we're looking at. >> I think authorizing the architect to move forward with the project and let's do

070that and that's what we need to do. >> Signing a budgetary beginning point is is the proper step for today. >> I would like to >> whatever we can do to make it go quicker. >> Yes, please. >> What you can do tonight is authorize million as a budget director come back to you with a draft that would have any alternatives that they would suggest and then at that time they can address both >> no sounds good >> that's why we have you here glad you're here thank you thank you Mr. profit. All right. So, you got your wording there. Okay. Tell me if this is correct. I would like to make a motion to authorize the architects to create a What am I asking them to create? >> A BG a draft BG1 with

071a budget of $8 million. >> All right. making a motion for the architects to create a draft BG1 with a starting budget of $8 million >> for the New Haven School >> at New Haven School in August. >> In August, the August 19th board meeting. All right. Do I have a second? >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> I. Any opposed? All right. Motion passes. Moving on to the next project, which is Nelson County High School. So again, lots of discussions uh and you think about this campus. Um I think most recently, as Mr. Bradley indicated, the master campus plan, I think kind of u gave us an opportunity to step back and think about what could we create really from a longer term standpoint. This diagram just kind of outlines an overview of

072some of those discussions. Um but again just based on where we are I think currently that schematic design process is currently loading and considering how the master plan campus plan interacts with that. So again the the question is what is the most important next step for this facility. >> So there's numbers on here one two and three one would be that's as I understand it this is the high school portion. Am I correct? >> One >> high school classrooms. school classrooms. What is two? >> Middle school um wing. Middle school wing. And three would be >> athletics. >> Okay. Well, I think the high school portion is certainly a priority here. Does that address the needs in that facility? Most pressing needs. >> Yeah. Stephen's going to explain that a little further. I'll describe a

073little bit what is in the area of one and area of two. >> Um what one illustrates is removal of the 1969 section of the high school that is west of main hall. So basically all of the classrooms uh and like halls A, B, C, and D. Um except for the cafeteria and kitchen. Um because those have been more recently renovated. Uh I don't think KDE would support tearing those down at this point because you've got an investment in them. Um and then it includes um building a new high school wing farther forward on the site. So that yellow block uh moved up closer to Bloomfield Road was the proposal of the master plan that instead of the school being so far set back, it would be moved up forward, which would then create some

074free area behind it for um parking and some uh larger landscaped areas and sort of campus development. So it would feel more like a coherent campus. Um so that's that's the wing. This is parking. This is sort of some interior landscape. And what that does is shift all of the athletics to the back of the site so that then you can have also a more coherent athletics area. Um, as part of that phase one, you would need to move the softball field. So you'd be shifting that softball field to the north. So all of that is inside that yellow box for phase one. Phase two is um the remainder of the building that uh that would be renovated. So, it's main hall and everything to the east of main hall. So, current freshman wing, gym,

075music suites, art suites, um the ROC and and a hall. All of that would then be thoroughly renovated as a second phase of work. >> From a student displacement conversation, when you think about what happens to students in the building, this does allow us to maintain student presence in the building as well. There could be uh a few moments, you know, where we have a little more noise than we'd prefer. Uh but the students here would be able to maintain uh regular classroom uh attendance for the most part. Uh if we did have displacement, there is enough room in the building to move a few classrooms. So that's just another uh piece of this. This does this does come close to the old building, but it doesn't run right into it in most locations except

076this backside. >> What was the estimated cost previously for this part one? This what's shown in yellow one excluding 1A, just the one. >> Thought I had all the things prepared, but I didn't have that one. I don't know what that was right now. I know what I did prepare is the um what's on the DFP as a total construction cost for the phase one work is uh 398 about for phase one. >> So so phase one at the time was 38 million. That was about a year year 14 months ago. You were predicting 38 million based on the square footage at that time price per square foot. Yeah. >> Um the DFP had it at 395. >> DFP increased that to 398 and I actually would have recommended a higher number now based on

077actual market prices rather than what the what KDE tells us we can do. >> Um but yeah, that's what phase one was. >> It was approximately $40 million. >> And that's a real number. 40 million. That's not a or is that a KD number? >> You won't know the real numbers until you get your bids back. >> Okay. and we will give you an early a more >> real estimate >> uh again at the time of a BG1 >> what's the next steps on this if we want to like where are we what what has to happen >> be similar to what was just discussed with New Haven you would um probably in the same meeting you would do a BG5 to close the old BG1 and then you would have a new BG1 establishing

078what a budget and a scope should be >> so the same motion that we did on New Haven. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, I would make a motion to authorize the architect to prepare a draft BG1 in the amount of is it $40 million. >> That was our starting point. >> Yeah, I think that's a good start. >> $40 million um for the August 19th board meeting. >> All right. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> It's for Nelson County High School. David, do you have something to say? >> Phase one. >> Did you clarify that was for Nelson County High School? >> Um, for Nelson, I'll do it one more time. Authorize the architect to prepare a draft um BG1 for Nelson County High School in the amount of $40 million um or

079with a base budget of $40 million to be presented at the August 19th board meeting. >> All right. Do we still have our second? >> A second. >> All right. All in favor? Any opposed? >> All right. Motion passes. All right, next up is Thomas Nelson. That was the next project on our list. >> All right, so again, just a reminder, this project is a bit further along and that blueprint documents have already been created. Studio Kramer's here. They can to process, but um this is just an overview of that facility and and where it currently stands. Just as I tell you what, I'll let Stephen describe the uh scope. Sure. Um so as this was um as the documents were completed a couple of years ago, this uh renovates parts of the north section

080of Thomas Nelson High School. But then the biggest part of the project is that it builds a new middle school wing, including a new middle school gym, a very large lobby, uh with admin, and some activity space in there for kind of collaborative learning. Um and then it renovates the um the former media center for um your engineering collab. Um so it uh the project that as it was bid a couple of years ago, it came in at around $24 million. >> It was a little over $24 million. That's right. >> Mr. Warden, could relative to this budget so that I can I mean this diagram, where is the existing entrance as shown on this diagram? Can you walk us through that? >> This is the existing. Okay. And the bulk of the high school

081that currently exists is shown in gray. Is that correct? That's the existing structure. >> Media center. So you actually enter building traffic in the middle so that you can separate out some of that traffic. >> So what we see there is there's two gyms. One is the existing gym and then a new one would be built alongside it. This is the existing. >> Okay. >> Turn sideways and have two smaller. >> Yeah. >> There's really no bleachers hardly. No. >> And that was intentional by design. The team that went through that process, it was more built like a fieldhouse so that they could have a lot of practices in there or little league games or whatever. Uh this was also just as a just to for those of you part of the conversation, this was

082the sixth grade academy wing. This was seventh grade. This was eighth grade right here. So this wing here was actually an eighth grade wing. Uh that was based on the numbers projected for students entering into sixth, seventh, and eighth grade on the west side at that time. >> How close do you feel that a budget would be to $24 million? I think we would see in 2025 probably at least three million more if if we're looking at if we've talked about the prioritization of the various things on the CF because there's a lot of things on there. Would we be wise to do New Haven and Nelson County before we commit funds into development of these plans when in reality, you know, we could be several years down the road? We don't want to. Is

083that something or is there wisdom in going ahead and doing this now? >> Are you asking Mr. Ward then? >> I Well, I'm I'm asking just generally whoever wants to answer. >> I was going to say Alex probably can speak a little bit further in that as far as bonding. >> Yes. So conversations with bonding really uh discussions with DFP by 2030 we're looking at uh 90 million to $120 million and that's really our our bonding agent is the one that generated those values based on property assessments. Um so I think that's kind of what Karen's getting at with the numbers but really you're looking at 90 to 120 by 2030. >> I know this probably is not in this slide deck but Mr. Bradley, would it be difficult for you to find that slide

084that shows those bonding capacities, that single graph? I would like to to look at that. >> I think also as a something >> something to consider as you look at um even the scope of Nelson County High, it's still very much in the beginning stage of design. Obviously, to bring that project to bid, you're probably looking at a year >> when I minimum I would say to bring it to bid. So that it also buys you time. I think when you think about your bonding, it does continue to grow over time. >> And I understand that. I just mean, you know, we're we're going to do these projects as we can afford to do them clearly. And so my question is, do we, you know, do we wait? Do we pursue these two projects, see

085what they are, see what the see what is recommended in terms of improvement, see if they're much larger, and then determine whether or not to pursue this maybe next year, the year after that. >> I think the one I can't answer kind of the district's goals for sequencing would be, but from a construction sequencing and moving around of students, if the middle school students that are currently at OKH were able to move to Thomas Nelson, you would then free up space at OKH for high school students to move into OKH for that work to happen. I mean, whatever happens here, like students are going to have to get moved around. Um, and you don't have room in the east section of Nelson County High School for that student body. So, I think >> I think

086that was strategically what we >> you're going to be thinking of how you're moving people around, >> right? We were looking at in general was strategy plays a huge role in this. This isn't just about looking at project after project. Student movement has to happen in in an order in which all students are still serviced at the most effective and efficient way and um moving on these projects the way they're laid out currently I think will give us effective and efficient processes. So what I'm hearing is that while the Nelson County High School piece is being done that we just spoke about there it's pos those if if there's space made available at OKH classroom space could be captured there if needed. Is that correct? I think I mean I think we we've said in

087the LPC we said that Kentucky home uh by nature would be potentially impacted up till 2030 with some displacement because the Nelson County campus project is so layered that you're going to have displacement of students in certain programs just like we do right now that will be in the OK building from year to year up until 2030. So, just some just being, you know, that's what's going to happen if we start knocking down walls and and impacting buildings. Um, I share that just because that's the that's the reality and we've we've been very transparent about that in the local planning committee. When I look at these numbers, the 8 million, the um 40 million, and if we say 27 million um that comes to $75 million, and our bonding capacity is at 90. >> No,

088our bonding today over the ne by 2026, we predict it to be at about $75 million. one year from today, which is when many of these projects would come to to life. Uh it would take a year for the Nelson County project, especially New Haven could move faster, but the Nelson County project is going to take at least a year of design minimum. Is that safe to say, Stephen? Uh that's with a team of people working on it. Um >> have the chart that shows yearby year this >> Yeah. So, this is where the this is a bonding capacity conversation. Alex, you you shared this conversation at the at the um LPC and you shared this conversation as well. >> That's the one I've >> This one is what we need to see. >> Yes.

089So, essentially your um you know, our property values come in and really we're three triple nickel. Joey Jody loves me loves talking about this conversation each time as a reminder. and forgive me but >> no it is important >> in just so we can see the chart a little bit larger on the screen please. >> So with our triple nickel property values come in um that percentage really helps us indicate you know how much money of our revenue is is uh getting put in a a pot of money that's for your facilities based on the current property values that is around $7.4 4 million that every year is coming in for our facility um money per se to spend. Now, this is assuming as you tract out over years that property assessments would remain flat

090and be the exact same and every year you're generating 7.4 million in that pot of money for your facilities. So, that's why it's flat. If you look at really historically, our property values have gone up and so therefore really it's this 7.4 has always been 7.4. It's it's continued to climb. So I guess the question is what's going to happen in the future? If values go up, you're not have 7.4 million. You may have closer to 8 million available for facility spending. But you know what happens in the future is hard to predict. So this is assuming it stays flat. The blue bars represent current projects and what we owe on them. So currently uh this is really in the past point, but um this is how much we owed on this project around 5

091million. uh a little bit more here, five and a half million. And so you're paying these projects off over time. By 2030, this blue bar really drops down because ultimately you've paid off that project and you no longer owe on it. And so because you no longer owe on it, you now have more money available to spend on future facility projects. And then the bar drops off again. Eventually getting out to 2036, the only remaining projects here would be uh upcenter and bus garage. that would be remaining here which allows all this money for potential use. Really, we're just taking it and putting it in a storing it over here and and waiting for uh using it for future facility projects. So, we're bringing it in and we're kind of tucking it to the side.

092>> Yeah, that's and that's just the context. So in terms of the just to go back to the question around Thomas Nelson which sequence to go into we we've organized our conversation with the DFP around effect how do we maintain effective and efficient practices the board has also used that conversation um re so renovating buildings does not make us more effective and efficient. It's it is important to the long-term viability of our district. It's also important to the students and professionals in that building uh to continue to modernize buildings. I think that goes without being said. That's important, but it doesn't necessarily make us more effective or efficient. Uh the only thing on our DFP that will make us more efficient is the Thomas Nelson Middle School. There's no other uh there is nothing else

093that's going to make us more efficient. And when the local planning committee made the decision, they did it in light of academic benefits, family and student belonging, extracurricular athletics and arts, how we can generate more revenue back in the general fund annually for staffing and salaries, um access to uh state and CTE funding sources, locations of schools, all those things. So I just reference that to say the only way we become more efficient and in align with these things is the Thomas Middle School in just as a matter of reference. >> Well, I I kind of disagree with that. I mean, I do think better facilities. Now, we we know that it's what happens in the facilities that really matters, but but I do think that there's a benefit in having good facilities, and I

094think it increases the the way teachers can can manage the resources. And I think it improves the quality of life maybe within the building. The buildings aren't >> that's not where it's at. Um and and I understand that all these projects are on there, but my only question would be whether we should use whether we should come, you know, we've never had a bid come in lower than we thought. That just doesn't happen when you do these and whether we should see where we are. We know that it takes time to get all these done and then, you know, move forward on that just so we don't, you know, pay for construction documents that we end up having to tweak because it costs money when we do that. That would just be my caution. >>

095Right. I I see where your head's at. Really, my understanding, and Stephen can correct me, uh, an architect generating a draft BG1, you're not committing any monetary value to the architect at that point. >> Okay. >> So, >> okay, that's important to me. when we're issuing BG1s, we're not making the commitments and really can you go back to the chart that shows the three phases that one with the first. Yes, that one. Thank you. So, really before we're committing bid or bonds, right? That's not until we get to the third stage. M >> so there's opportunity as we've seen previously things could have could be amended and revised. So essentially I think the way the and Stephen can help me with this but I think the way the fees are associated so we would so

096the next steps would be generate draft BG1 for August that wouldn't cost us anything right I think if we move forward with those and we give permission for the architect to engage in schematic design and as they're beginning that work that's when fees would be associated with that when those are approved each time this is approved you know fees you're giving permission for the architect to move forward with the next step and because they're doing the work therefore that's why there's additional fees associated with that. >> Thank you, Alex. That answers my question. I think that was my confusion there in terms of what our investment was financially at this stage and on this vote. >> Anything you want to add to that, Stephen? What? Okay. >> Thank you. >> So, the question becomes, are

097we going to take action on the Thomas Nelson project and what that would be? So in this case um because the essentially again it's all about where the projects are currently um these blueprints are finished and the next step here would be putting to bid would be the next action that the board would take and really you're authorizing Kodell and Studio Kramer to engage in that rebidding process. Sounds like based on timeline uh if if all went well we may have numbers and estimates ready by September. I would like to move forward with New Haven and Nelson County and then see where we are monetarily. That that's that's where my head is on this. >> What is bidding the best way to get the true price and cost a project? >> Yeah, it's it's the

098only way you're going to get it. >> Up until up until the bid is an estimate once it's once the project is That's a commitment on the part of the contract that they will remember the project. >> But we do not have to move forward if those bids I'm just throwing a number if it came over you know millions and millions over what we anticipated if we select you know solicited bids. Do we have to award bids? >> You don't have to but there is risk involved just because [Music] >> makes sense. I think the difference there is essentially the scope of that project has not changed at all and we've alreadyve already got all the bids back from that project. Again, they are two or three years old at this point. But I think

099in terms of estimates, that's probably the most valid estimate that we have to date projects. >> And I think again I don't think anybody is um going to be surprised by this. I think we have to honor this process. We have um talked about effective and efficient in Nelson County schools and putting students first and this allows us to continue to do that. This allows us to address the um facilities at New Haven and Nelson County, but stay focused on students. And I personally believe we need to have a motion to um bid out Thomas Nelson, the project for the middle school. And I know that's not the appropriate motion to be made there, Mr. Crawford, but that would be my suggestion. We had a uh basically the motion would be to u move forward

100with the bidding process. The only modifications were the 2023 electrical updates if I'm correct. So basically, you would modify the bid to ass to assume that the only changes to the construction documents were the uh electrical code updates. So that's that was essentially the next step >> approved. >> That's that would be the motion if there was to be a motion to move forward with the Thomas Nelson project. Otherwise, you're just asking them to update the electrical codes, which is not really a massive it's just a it's a minor detail. >> The motion could be to move on with the revision of need to be revised and preparing for >> that's right if the board chooses to rebid Thomas Nelson Middle School wing which was really the the previous conversation you would be to authorize

101the architect to proceed with the preparation and release of bid documents and incorporate the required 2023 electrical code updates and any other necessary adjustments. Those are minor. That would be the motion. >> This just doesn't reflect the priority in which I would like to see these done. So I I would not be ready to bid this. this me personally I I think that that makes it that changes our order you know because we're committing significant funds to this and I I think we're at the risk that the other projects would have to be scaled down or not done and yeah that's >> what capacity is Thomas Nelson >> uh I'd say it's uh 900 kids by living by you know from a living in the building and 900 kids by KDE measures is a thousand

102I think we had adjust for classrooms over the last 12 years because the KD rags wouldn't allow locker rooms essentially to be built in the building other than uh what look like I don't know if you've seen the Norman Rockwell paintings where they sit in the locker room but that's what the the locker rooms are really small so they've they've adjusted and made some of the classrooms and the athletic wings into locker rooms I share that's why I say 900 um >> that's a lot bigger number than I've been told before and that's >> no it says a thousand of the DFP Theuh other thing is uh Thomas Nelson if we look at it the eighth graders were going to be in part of the 900. >> So that's why it was built out like

103that. >> Okay. >> Um so the the what was currently one of their houses that was originally the freshman wing would become the eighth grade wing. So the the plan uses the current building to adjust for that. >> Yeah. This this this does throw priorities differently than what we how we voted on just now. And uh I'm not for it. >> Well, I guess my question would be the which priorities? Because if we look at the priorities that we >> Well, if we're looking at facility priorities, are you looking at student priorities? Because we established priorities back in February, I believe, that really focused on students. Um, and the LPC also took those priorities and established a district facility plan that was around priorities that were around students. The difference is is they let us

104leeway. Um, they didn't prioritize facilities and which projects would be done first. They're leaving that up to the board to do. And so I think that's what this whole conversation is about is what facilities are we prioritizing and we priorit we are pritori prioritizing New Haven and we are so prioritizing Nelson County High School. Um, but we're also going to prioritize students. And that's why when we look at this facility plan, Thomas Nelson project prioritizes students. And it allows us to stay focused on students and effectively manage where students are located and what programs are going on and how those programs can continue to build while we're also focused on facilities. When I go back and think about the months and months of the LPC process and those conversations, um, looking at that data and

105weighing all those pieces, we have facility needs to some extent, but much of that conversation focused on creating equitable opportunities for all of our students because currently we have some differences across the county And um if if you're unfamiliar with that information, I would highly encourage you to go back to the website and visit look at all the data that's there. It's there. There's not I don't need to rehash it. It's available. And um the one thing that became abundantly clear was that we need to address some means for to create clear opportunities for our middle school students across this county. And so when I think around that um I think it is imperative to also address that the con the restriction for me is the dollars. So when I think about what kind of

106money is available and our bonding capacity and um right now we're not talking about doing the whole facility plan. We do not I don't feel comfortable look doing that based on projected funding and what might come in. Where are we if revenues don't increase and we stay where we are? And when I do these numbers, it looks to me that we're right within that money of what we should be able to pay within our bonding capacity. >> What is our bonding capacity today? Right now >> we at the LPC we talked about 55 million I believe today >> the number is 75 million by 2026 that was where we were projected >> and when I we had the financial advisor in and he said that essentially to get to 2026 you do it's like a

107construction loan >> you're not you're also not spending all that money upfront because you have all these months 3 to six months phase one, six months, and then a year or two. So, you get to that. That's what it hinges on for me is what can we afford to do within our current bonding capacity and what we know is becoming available um over the next couple of years. Can we afford to do that? Because I don't want to also don't want to delay opportunity for students and put that off for five and six years down the road. Um, so >> we're getting we're cutting it pretty close you all if we do this. If it's 75 million, I mean, if you're looking at this this 40 million at Nelson County is not a real number.

108I mean, you know, until it gets bid. What you said about Thomas Nelson, it's more concrete because it's actually been bid, right? We don't have one for Nelson County. We don't have that yet. And we don't have it for for New Haven either. Um, we can have a projection. We can certainly set a budget, but if that's the priority, we don't know what that number comes in at. I think the challenge >> at Thomas we're stuck >> right the challenge I think the thing to consider too is in order to get those estimates on that project you're probably looking at a year in order to get the real values >> we did some parents in the no events towards last year we met with every school and it was very clear what parents in the

109Nelson County schools that showed up to those events wanted progress we'd been sitting on our hands for two years >> I think This is progress. I mean, we we've definitely we're moving forward with, you know, these BG plans. I mean, I think this is definitely progress. Um, I just think we should be if our true priorities are New Haven and Nelson County in terms of being able to fund those, let's just make sure we can fund them before we bid a project. Once we bid, we're committed. We've committed the maybe our our third place if we're if we're prioritizing and we've done that first and then we're gonna have to use what's left over. I just don't think that is a smart move. I just don't. So, >> we're gonna just keep order in here,

110guys. Just let us have these conversations because they are important conversations that that we have been begging for for several years now. And um and I think the smoke and mirrors here is that we are not prioritizing facilities. We absolutely are prioritizing facilities, but what we should be doing as a school board is prioritizing students and we are also doing that. And to do that, we have to move on Thomas Nelson's Middle School. We we could wait. I'm not going to say, you know, we don't we don't have to do anything. We can wait three years, four years down the road, but then we'd still be talking about putting students first. Oh, we're putting students first, are we? Because we continue to delay and delay and delay and delay. And again, we have been here

111before. If we are prioritizing students, which this board prioritized students a few months back and told the LPC, prioritize students, then we need to do that. We need to stay focused on that and again we are not not looking I think um what you all are saying about the budget is absolutely correct but we are seeing it in with our own eyes. We are seeing that we are in a safe place that we can move on these projects because strategically not only are we placing students strategically, we are pro we are placing these projects strategically that we are be we are going to be okay. We're going to be in a good position looking out for the next couple years. It's going to take us two or three years to get to these points. We're

112going to be in a good spot if we stay focused on students. >> I've been through this before where we did vote New Haven the priority and then everything come in estimates and then New Haven's pushed on the back burner and this what's going to happen again. Well, I can't say I can't say what the other board members are going to do, but I can promise you when it's time to bid out New Haven, New Haven will get bid with my vote. >> Just saying what's happening in the past and I know it is a new board here. >> Nobody's been on but me >> and I'm looking at the future and New Haven is as far as students of New Haven have remained a priority. Have remained. They have remained the students. If we're

113talking about the students, they have remained a priority with me and they will remain a priority, but every student in Nelson County counts. Tracy, I I I know that they're a priority with you. I I know that they're a priority with everybody. I don't think we need to question anybody's priority or whether anybody's vote is for students or whatever. It's just a difference of opinion. So my concern is just because we don't have concrete numbers for New Haven and Nelson County. I think it's risky to go ahead and bid out a project because we don't know what's going to be left over. That that's that's where I am. So but I I don't question anybody's priorities up here. So >> it's also probably unlikely that you're going to have all of the real values for

114all of these projects simultaneously. >> Yeah. I I don't want to end up 12 years down the road still sitting here like we have been with New Haven. I don't want to be, you know, our community is, you know, worked and and committed to these things and years and years and years and we've still not moved anywhere as a board. Alex, you live this stuff. So, do you have a preference on how this should go? Like do you have the vision on where all this house should lie or is this just us discussing it that weary come once a month and talk about like you're you're living >> pretty general question Jeff? >> It is it is >> talking about from a monetary standpoint. >> I'm just talking about from a vision standpoint. How does

115it affect how does it better fit the kids of Nelson County on how we progress? >> Why don't you reference this side what we talked about in LPC? >> Exactly. >> Yeah. I so I mean really this guided the whole entire discussion. Uh I do think you know again we're we're mainly talking about the nickel money or the facility money but again how you structure your facilities does also generate how you utilize these other resources over here which really from an annual cost standpoint your operating cost from staffing and operating cost from busing and keeping the lights on. and how you structure your facilities really dictates uh how efficiently those values are really getting spent. So really when you think about our biggest cost is obviously staffing. So spending a lot of time and energy

116thinking about well how do we most optimize and how can we be most effective with our current staffing part of that is limited by how you structure your facilities. So I think in the example of uh the Thomas Nelson Middle School uh extension there create and this is the conversation we had with the LPC is it does create more flexible staffing models for us and really from my experience looking at our larger schools and we talked about this it generates more effective cost uh from staffing standpoint cost per pupil. those larger schools um they just have more they they have teachers there that are available they can be more flexible with and be more strategic with and therefore it does cost less. Uh really even thinking about all your other operating staff, your front office,

117cafeteria, administration, uh you can be more optimal and more flexible in those larger spaces. So how you structure facilities and I think Mr. Bradley alluded to this helps us save annual money in your general fund. and you save that money in your general fund then allows you to put it to the students and that's where the reoccurring cost savings with the facilities we're not talking about that but that is a reality >> I am trying to find this the $90 million number that we've talked about repeatedly can can somebody show me the slide where that came from what that refresh us on which conversation do do I >> in the initial uh LPC C packet presentation >> the first meeting or the >> first meeting. Yeah. Each LPC member was given a um initial data

118packet. It was about 10 pages. That was one of the pages that was there. >> I I don't have access to it right off right off hand unless I go searching in my drive. I think that the um 90 to 100 million was 2028. That was the That was the timeline for that. >> It should be >> 2026 was 75, 90 to 100 was 2028. That's how all those phase out. It's every two years. You get the you get the full revenue piece there. And I think we also have to remind ourselves just like we said, you know, two and a half years ago in a gym and stopped all these projects from happening. We said at that time we weren't going to have any money. Well, we have far more money than we were

119talking projecting at that time because the financial advisors come in the room and they tell you the minimum amount they're going to tell you. They're not trying to give you more. They're trying to say if nothing else changes, this is your bonding capacity. They're never going to overpromise because they have no interest in giving you more than they think you're going to be able to to u provide. With that in mind, when they give us these numbers, these are the minimum numbers that we're that they're that we're going to be looking at. That's assuming we don't have property value. But since we got a Chick-fil-A on the west side, we know it's a big deal property values are increasing. Now, I I say that, you know, just because it's sort of true. So, I share

120that as a bigger conversation. And, you know, there's there's a there's people in the community that, you know, want to want us to continue to make progress for students and schools. And there's a few people that you know again would in theory maybe don't want us to spend uh money on uh buildings. I think what we know is if our roles and this is me as a superintendent is to increase the benefit for students for families uh around this effective and efficiency model then we're providing you guys with those recommendations. Obviously our recommendation is to move forward with those three projects that you guys have discussed tonight. Um, and that's what's best interest of the district. Um, obviously as board members, each of you guys are looking through a different lens. And I think I

121want to applaud the conversations and the movement because over six months there's been a lot of dialogue that you guys have been heavily engaged in. >> Are you having problems finding it? I'm looking back to I want to see those dollars those what we I'm looking back in prior meetings trying to find that right now All those things should be on the uh ncslpc.com. Karen, if you find them, um it's all there should be under meeting one. >> I'm thinking about the presentation from the financial advisors, >> right? Um, that's what I want to see. And that >> should be a link here that shows initial >> data packet. >> Does anybody remember? >> Here we go. Now we're in the right spot. So, let's see. I want to move forward a bit. So, I

122think this is what it is. Right here. Here's what you're looking for. >> Okay. And we may need to zoom in on part of it again, but I I think I've explained it well. And all of this information comes from our RSA advisors, our bonding agents. Um, and really the the amount of money revenue generated from nickel tax is shown here. And it really dates back all the way through 20 years. And you can see that your revenue uh in your facility money continues to increase because property values go up. The equalization is really the state's way of trying to equalize which counties how much money do they get, right? And they're trying to uh really regardless of where the kid lives across the state, trying to make sure kids have equal access to resources.

123So, generally, if your county doesn't generate as much money, then the state's going to give you more uh to equalize that out, right? And so, in the beginning years, we did get more equalization from the state because our properties were not as high relative to the rest of the state. uh as they increase, we now get less money from the state from equalization because the state's saying you don't need it generically. >> So this then shows you the totals and it's showing you the percent increase each year. So over this 20-year time frame, property values increased 4.25%. I reference that because as the RSA advisors generate your bonding capacity, they're looking at this data to try to project how might property values increase over the next 20 years. And that's where they're able to come

124up with different percent increases from your property values. And so they may generate a conservative growth value or a high growth value just to give you a ballpark range of what you're looking at. And again, they came up with this 3.5 because on average over the course of 20 years, which is pretty large sample size, you're looking at an average of 4.25% increase over that time frame. Over the course of the last four years, that number was 9.4%. So based upon a 3 and a.5% property growth increase, they're saying today, if you had all these projects ready to bond, you could bond $54 million today if they were all ready to go. They're not. Uh by fall of 26, they estimated 66 million. Fall of 28, 78 million. At the same time, uh is are

125our properties going to increase three and a half%? They could increase 6%. Again, that's why they give they've given you this range. And that's why I said by fall of 2030 90 to 120 million >> and it could be higher could be lower but we assume that it's they're not going to give us that three and a half% number as a basic but I will say I misspoke 75 97120 on the high end and that's 6%. If we go for the LA, if we went for if we continue to have growth in Nelson County like we've had the last four or five years, that number would be closer to probably 140 to $150 million. We don't know. Uh we'll know in September kind of what we're looking at in terms of this year we can

126project towards uh and what's KDE projecting right now based on what you see, Alex. >> Yes. So KD generates really our seek payout which is really a different element of this but they're also trying to project uh property value. So this past year last September uh we were at like 4.9 billion and KD's got for this next year 5.4 billion. Uh again that's their projection >> which is over 10%. >> At the same time I went back and even referenced well how accurate were they this past year they they really lowballed the 4.9 and they were under that number. Right. So it was somewhere around four and a half billion 4.6 billion but um they missed that mark too. So >> as our bonding goes up also I mean if we look at the rise

127in commercial construction costs which we're aware of because bidding it in at different years I mean that's that's been pretty significant over the years. It's another thing we cannot predict even if we can predict growth in terms of I'm you know the projected growth. >> Um that's an unknown. That's right. >> Has been a trend. >> Yeah. So, really, it's just a matter of does the board does the board want to move forward with uh the projects uh in particular the Thomas Hson project in light of the information that you have knowing uh we can't say for sure where we'll be. We we estimate that uh based on KD's numbers, we're probably going to be 75 or upwards. uh and at the same time we don't know for sure. So we won't know until this

128time next year in terms of the overall. >> All right. Is there any further discussion? >> Is there a motion? So, we do have to clarify for this particular if if the board wants to move ahead with the Thomas Nelson project, it would be to move ahead with the rebidding and advertising process uh in in consideration of the 2023 um electrical code updates. Any discussion guys? All right. >> Can we um can we table this until later in the meeting until after the executive session to I just needed to think for a few minutes and clear my head. >> Can we table it till the Do you want to table it until after the executive? >> We can, but we can't talk about it in the executive session. >> We cannot. >> No. No. That

129we have a your evaluation to talk about. So, um, we'll come back after the executive session to open session. All right. So, we're going to move on. >> So, we just add that back to the agenda. >> Yeah. All right. And I will note that our attorney will be with us in executive session as witness that this is not discussed in executive session. >> All right. So, we will need a motion to convene the executive session per KRS1565576c for discussion of midyear evaluation goals. >> I'll make a motion. >> Do I have a second? >> A second. >> All right. All in favor? >> I. Any opposed? Motion passes. [Music] You won't [Music] be It [Music] feels [Music] fun. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Hey [Music] my darling. [Music] It rain. [Music] You found me. [Music]

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133So I need a motion. >> Make a motion. >> Thank you. I need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? I. Any opposed? All right, motion passes. So, with that, we're going to go back to the conversation around facilities if you guys want to revisit that. Are there any additional questions for Mr. Martin or Mr. Ward, I feel like we talked about it. We might just need to it up and see see where everybody is. All right. If there's no further discussion, So again, the motion would be to authorize the district's architect to proceed with the advertisement release of bid documents for Thomas Nelson. If a board member chooses to make that, that would essentially the motion that would incorporate 2023 electrical code updates. So you just need that motion motion to proceed on

134with Thomas. >> Are you making that motion? >> I will make that motion. Yes. >> All right. >> Do you want to read that motion out? So the motion would be to authorize the district's architect to proceed with the preparation of advertisement release architect and construction man to proceed with the preparation advertisement and release of bid documents for Thomas Nelson High School incorporating required 2023 electrical code updates and any other any other adjustments. >> Does that sound right, Mr. Crawford? Okay, >> that would be the motion. That would be potentially >> Jody. Are you making that motion? I will make that motion. Yes. >> Do we have a second? >> I'm going to second. And um I feel that when I think back to this process, I have to go back to all the time

135I put in and thought into it. And fundamentally, we look at what benefits our students. We just came out of an executive session where we've been talking about superintendent evaluation and um looking at academics and how we are student focused and student driven. And while we do think about facilities, we most importantly have to think about how we are providing things for our students so that they can succeed and um move forward in this life. So, um I want them prepared for their future and I recognize that there are opportunities as we move through this process to um change and make adjustments as needed. I am we are not voting to do the full facility plan at this point. um that which is very very important um because we I feel like we're close to

136being into that projected range of growth financially of what we have to cover that and if we need to make adjustments beyond that we will have an opportunity to do so and when we come back in in August we'll have a a clearer picture of all three projects and what that those costs actually look So with that, we will need a vote. All in favor? >> I. Any opposed? >> Nay. >> Yay. N. >> All right. Three in favor, two opposed. Moving on to the board calendar. Oh. Um, and celebrations. Um, so real quick, this is something that we had talked um about previously is a board retreat. Um, I am currently talking to a Mr. is it MC Ray? Michael Mcray. Um, he's going to get back with me this week on what that

137looks like. I would like the board to kind of um get with me either through email or give me a call on um maybe doing that through during KSBA, which is December 5th and 6th. Um, and if you're interested in doing that, and that would basically just being the board sort of building on what their team priorities are and um, being really efficient as a board. Um, of course, that's again something that we need to talk a little bit further about, but I would like the board members to kind of just, um, email, like I said, email or reach out to me and let me know what your thoughts are on that. And then board celebrations. Does anyone have any board celebrations? Um, WHS was mentioned a few minutes ago about how much work they

138do and and everything and do and they are a great great organization. But I also want to give a huge shout out to our fire departments in New Haven, Bloomfield, Barstown that stop, you know, New Haven spent many days at the red light. They they raised a bunch of money. I just want to give a big shout out to them and thank them for all their hard work. >> Fantastic. heard some wonderful things coming out of the leadership pathways um for our staff and I certainly appreci appreciate that and I appreciate our building leaders, our principles and the assistant principles and backpack leaders for all that they are doing toward um readying the schools and um making sure that we're having a good positive environment and learning right out of the gate for our students.

139Well, we have school right around the corner as everyone knows and um our family resource center is doing their annual back to school bash November 2nd from 11 to 2 at will be >> no sorry no it is not November August I'm jumping ahead really far August 2nd August 2nd 11 to2 at Thomas Nelson because the parking lot usually it's at um the epicenter but the parking lot is currently occup occupied there. So, um I encourage all of our families to come enjoy that experience. Um that is open for all students in Nelson County. Um every individual school is having their back to school bashes going on and house warmings. Um this is a great way to get out and meet your teachers and there's a lot of work that goes into those. Um and

140everyone is ready to welcome the kids back into the buildings. So definitely take advantage of those. Um, I also want to give a shout out to all of the sports teams that are back into full-blown um, football programs across the district. They are um, keeping the kids safe in doing this with the heat. They're doing everything that they possibly can to keep the kids engaged and um, participating and doing it safely. And so I want to make sure that we shout them out and feel like they're already back to work. So, um, give them a shout out tonight. And again, I want to celebrate the superintendent while we wrap up. And, um, really the the being part of that advisory committee, I think, is just an exciting thing for our district. And, um, I look

141forward to hearing feedback um, as we move forward in that. >> We had a great um, opening practice week for our little league football. my grandson chose to participate this year and it was a very nice event organized out at the Nelson County High School football field and so I appreciate all those volunteers who have um worked to create that for them. >> Yeah. And there are camps going on. So keep an eye on Facebook and because there are constantly events going on for students to be whether it's soccer or volleyball or >> there's a running camp I saw coming up this week at different locations throughout the district. >> And kids are getting to that point where they're getting a little antsy. You're not sure what to do. Take them and let them run.

142>> Yeah. For the elementary, I think it was. >> So um again, great things going on. Oh, and we have a Tik Tok account thanks to Miss Mariah Beasley. So check that out, too. That's great. >> It It is great. >> Awesome. >> So, we have um board meetings um set up for August 19th at Foster Height will be the next one. Um so, do we need to >> I want to say something for you in the meeting, Tracy. Um I don't know many has seen it or not, but I want to thank all the FFA teachers, staff, all the great work. We've done some amazing work in Lexington and uh they they really rocked it >> and they worked this summer too because they were they had >> just want to thank them for

143all their hard work. >> Yeah, definitely. Um those kids have been at competition um several times actually. I think there were several of them out. Um I think future business leaders were also out for the summer. Yeah. I don't think people understand our schools do not sleep. >> Like these kids are constantly going. It may seem like there's a summer break, but for a lot of these kids, there is not. They continue to work. >> I'm trying to name them, but I'm not going to do it because I'll leave somebody out. But I all FFA. I've got everybody. Thank you. >> We're celebrating them all. >> Absolutely. It's I know we're doing a lot of celebration, but thank you to our fellow board to all my fellow board members for open conversation and dialogue tonight.

144I'm glad that we were actively engaged and that's an important piece of this. And um Mr. Martin and Mr. award. Thank you for your patience through the questions. >> Thank you guys. >> All right. Any more celebration? >> All right. So, we do not need to uh motion on that. We just need a motion to adjurnn. >> I'll make a motion. >> Second. >> All right. All in favor? Christ.