001[Music] top of the web page it drops down to board members if you click on board members just above the pictures of our beautiful board members as a section entitled meeting notices and instruction and a click here link and that will open you up to see the current comments for any items that are up for vote tonight and going forward any board meetings um that that are active so i'm just wanted to kind of remind you of that we'll also work with the i.t department to maybe publish some specific instructions on how to access public comments after the meeting for meetings going forward to make it easy thank you president tapman would you also talk about the budget yes sir um originally the board had scheduled for the night consideration of the adoption of a
002budget as well as a public hearing as you know by law the board is required to hold the public hearing on any annual budget adopted and also to formally adopt that budget by majority vote of the board following feedback from board members and constituents regarding the inclusion of asset budgets in the special revenue budget we decided to delay adoption and also the public hearing to allow for appropriate public notice and so the public hearing on the budget including the special revenue budget which includes the srb at the revised essa budgets will happen july 14th and following that public hearing will have a special meeting to adopt the budget and then the committee of the whole meeting so this would all happen july 14th so it gives us time to appropriately and legally publish publicly notice
003that public hearing and meeting um and then give the the public an opportunity to speak with board members vet budget appropriately and provide feedback thank you and you're beautiful too mr chamberlain we'll move now to item b1 approval of the school board minutes of the june 16 2022 regular board meeting june 9 2022 special board meeting and the june 2nd 2022 committee of the whole meeting to be published in the official journal do i have a motion moved by mr goday seconded by mr blue um seeing no comments from board members on the minutes uh we go to the audience any comments from the audience on the minutes seeing none back to the board madam secretary please call the vote please vote uh if we need to do a roll call we can do it
004is everybody logged in jason do you need to do a roll call the motion carries thank you the minutes are approved we move now to information only items c1 monthly financial report c2 personnel changes and c3 public records request monthly report see miss square jackson thank you president tentman i wanted to um just take a look at the public records requests monthly report uh there were a few two three uh people who uh mentioned that their their records had it was marked complete but wasn't and i know uh mr chairman you sent me an email regarding one of them and if you wouldn't mind mr chandler would you just kind of review what is actually a public record yes yes ma'am yes thank you yeah and clarify that and just let us know what happened
005with those please yeah and if anyone has any question about whether their their request has been fulfilled we can answer that you know offside or after the meeting but um there's sometimes there's some confusion when a person or a constituent requests a public record the the district is obligated to provide that record to that person within a three-day period a three-day work day period if the record does not exist oftentimes we will produce whatever the request is but it may take us a little longer than three days and so i'm not certain what the claim is about what wasn't filled but we'll investigate look into it and provide some response to those persons i think there's some confusion sometimes when people ask for the formation of a report that doesn't exist that's technically not a
006record but we do provide as a courtesy that information to persons as quickly as we can get it to them when it's appropriate and so i just want to make sure that the board understood that the public understands that and we'll reach out to anyone who has any questions or or has a question about maybe why they didn't receive a request it may be because it wasn't a public record that doesn't exist i'll make sure that that gets responded to thank you jackson seeing no other uh questions from the board or comments we move now to item d1 update from superintendent narcisse thank you president tapman super excited because we are still in the summer as many of you know we've put a lot of summer programs so summer's in full swing and we're excited
007about the many educational fun and enriching activities happening in the east baton rouge paris school system uh our website ebrwww.ebrschools.org summer has complete listings of enrichment activities and as summer reading lists and math learning resources for all grades we've been sending that out to many people so we're super excited about that also available on the site are the summer meal site locations where children ages 0 to 18 can eat for free throughout the summer months so if you get a chance please go out to our website to look for that and we want to make sure that not only have children reading throughout the summer but also that we're feeding uh children throughout the summer summer camps um our summer camps and enrichment programs are progressing well i wanted to share some quick photos of
008some of the programs i've had the opportunity to visit and i'll be visiting additional sites throughout the summer you'll see pictures from c-tech where high school students are learning cpr and other health medical uh industry uh things they're also getting uh a stipend for that as well so uh which we're excited about because we're you know we're moving towards getting internships paid for students to work in the summer months as we're doing our summer work experience we're looking to have about 500 students in that program also students at bernard terrace and river oaks have been involved in educational enrichment activities you should also be able to see that in the pictures we're super excited about the kids doing that work as well last week liberty high school was the host site for the louisiana school
009safety summit i was joined by the louisiana superintendent of education dr k brumley to welcome officials from around the state as they learn best practice to remain safe in their schools and organizations we also had superintendent davis from the state police was there and other officials where they had breakout sessions to keep schools safe as many of you know we're working hard to make sure that our buildings are safe but more importantly we're able to work with our communities on learning what are different ways we can be proactive versus reactive in a lot of our work earlier today we honored our 2021-2022 retirees at a celebration that was held at glen oaks high school there was uh the theme was new horizon i'd like to publicly thank our retirees for their years of service and
010dedication to the east baton rouge paris school system and wish them much success in the new chapters of their lives our school system is made better by those who continue to serve with such passion let's give them a hand for what they've done for our system and i know uh uh it is uh it's my superintendent report but i love president tapman you were there today to talk to him i don't know if you want to say anything but yeah just that um i think it's a great thing i wanted to thank uh miss hall and uh miss williams for the work that they did uh it was very well done uh you all worked hard at what you could tell and the retirees were really they seemed to really enjoy it and it's something
011we haven't always done uh but it's something i think is important to recognize those people who have given a large part of their lifetime absolutely uh educating children and so thank you all everybody who put it on and congratulations to all those retirees who don't have to come to work let's get man one more time um each year magnus schools of america recognizes the achievement of a hundred hundreds of schools based on their exemplary commitment uh to academic standards curriculum innovation diversity efforts uh specialized instruction and parent and community engagement and are designated as schools of excellence or schools of distinction uh ebr uh ebr had several schools awarded for this designation including uh for magna schools of distinction uh belfair high brc vpa mayfair lab mckinley middle and woodlawn middle school um let's give
012them a hand for the work that they have done we also had magnet schools of excellence uh that were recognized uh i know that we recognized them earlier was uh the duke rock school westdale heights academic magnet and baton rouge high let's also give them a hand [Applause] in addition we had maria gil delegato from baton rouge foreign language emerging magnet who will be recognized by msa for the teacher of the year award for region 5 which includes texas louisiana colorado mississippi new mexico arkansas and oklahoma let's give maria a hand as well last but not least i wanted to give an update as many of you may know we are have opened up what we call our focus choice schools these are schools that are focused specifically on an industry to build uh and
013wanted to give uh an update on those schools uh since we've gone uh working to build this portfolio portfolio of schools uh that sits under uh our innovation school department our two focused choice schools which is park elementary and eva lagarde are doing exceptionally well the in park's first year of implementation the goal was to retain the current staffing model as well as add a sixth grade cohort as many of you know the board voted to move that school to a pre-k 8 model community meetings were held at park addressing questions surrounding the model and the vast majority of families chose to stay and enrolled at park elementary and they will matriculate to the next grade enrollment park has increased uh from 272 to 313 and there's still more going into them and the school
014has a total capacity of 400 students so we're glad to see that progress and there's now a waiting list at the eva lingard school as you know that's the partnership school with the lsu water institute where students who are going there will uh when they graduate will now qualify automatically right into lsu uh walking in with uh um almost 19 credits uh when they complete their senior year to go right into lsu so the goal uh was to enroll 50 students starting with a sixth grade this year as we've been working with the lsu faculty and i'm proud to say that due to the targeting recruitment efforts by the office of innovation and the interests and even lagarde now that school is not only full but it has a waiting list so and we only
015have the sixth grade open so uh right now um the enrollment which was 50 we have all the waiting um another extra 20 families that actually want to get in but we are kind of working through that but uh they wanted to open up more grades but uh we told them sixth grade for this year and then we'll continue to build next year but we're excited about the partnership that we have uh with that so um just wanted to continue to give update as we continue to build in our schools and um president tamman that is my report thank you dr narcisse i don't see any uh questions well yeah i swear jackson yes sir i'm sorry can you tell us if there's been any adjustments in the model for any of those schools uh
016yes so as we looked uh into our model and i could have um miss porter teresa porter's our innovation uh uh executive executive director of innovation schools uh can come up and uh share with you uh just the qualifications um i know we've gotten a lot of questions around who qualifies what the process is i'll remind folks as ms porter walks up as many of you know the focus choice schools are school where children are able to get into the school it has its independent steering committee which includes the industry partner ebr schools community partners to help govern some decisions around their staffing school leadership and some of those things in that process and what we've done is there is a slight difference between elementary and high schools i know people talk about gpa but
017it's something that the the schools decide and i'll let ms porter explain the difference between the elementary model and the high school thank you dr dorsey and good afternoon everyone so at the elementary level which is only pork ella mary um there is um grace pre-k through fifth grade there um is there was a retention requirement initially but now because of um a policy that let me back up i'm sorry okay so magnus schools is a specialized program and there's a board policy that was passed maybe 10 15 years ago and it talks about magnet and specialized programs well focus choice is technically is specialized therefore we are looking into whether we can use retention requirements for the elementary level now for the middle school and high school there is retention requirements but it is
018based on the governing model or rather the steering committee and who can what members comprise the steering committee have all of the steering committees been put together and finalized for those two schools yes they have in fact park elementary park medical academy the steering committee met today so it is comprised of batons general members of east baton rouge parish school system and also some community partners other community partners and you mentioned a policy that's been in place for a few years could you tell us where jackson um the policy i was referring to has been in place i think since 2014. and basically it focuses on elementary for magnet students it's a long forgotten policy because it was you know like i said so long ago but the key point here is that um we
019want to make sure that students especially at the elementary level remain in school and so to that point we um we're looking into that mr shamlin is looking into that for um for us and what that policy says i just want to make sure general counsel that i'm quoted correctly is if a student is not promoted to the next grade level um or if they fail as a math and english i believe there's a shift on that but it would be good for uh general counsel for you to talk specifically about that that's the policy we're visiting i think what miss where jackson's getting at if you i mean the gpa yeah the gpa requirements i know we've had discussions and eventually the board will have to make a final consideration about the actual admission
020and remain retaining requirements in school that's something dr narcissa is looking at the structure of the school and he can speak to the governance because i think this was his design is there'll be a committee um that will make recommendations to the superintendent about those functions within the school and then that comes to the board for final approval if that makes sense and so what ms porter's referring to is the committee doing the work of determining what those standards are going to be they make the recommendation to the superintendent this is via the mou that the board approved some time back i think when we created demo used back in january and then that will come to you guys for final approval via the superintendent's recommendation what i'm asking is what does the policy refer
021to that uh that we're speaking of when it comes to elementary school and gpa ms porter's yeah ms porter's referring i believe to the magnet protocol that's internal to her office it's not in district policy it's actually a magnet uh program yes ma'am that's correct so each school will have a separate retention requirement but it is based on that governing committee so it's actually um if we would take evil agor for example and those students are matriculating into lsu if the grade point average once they are seniors is 3.0 to get in a particular college based on that pathway then that is the reason why the steering committee choose that grade point average as a retention requirement but there is no admission requirements into any of those schools but retention require requirements may be based
022on gpa but is it there's a difference i'm i'm hearing from um dr narcisson and uh analyst said there's a difference between elementary and high school and what i want to get clear is what the differences are between the elementary and the high school when it comes to gpa requirements according to our policy that's in place now so if we reflected on the policy for magnet and schools then the retention requirement would be if the student did not matriculate to the next grade level then he or she would not be in that school anymore but we do not average their grade point average to determine if there is a retention so only if they don't matriculate so there's no gpa requirement to or threshold that they must attain or keep in order to stay in
023the program as in elementary school as of this moment no ma'am right okay yes but as far as high school goes there may be there is there is there's no doubt there is there is and it's in all of the focus choice programs correct so the models that we have are based on what the steering committee has developed as of this point eva laguard is our basically our high school our secondary version and so that grade point average is 2.8 to 3.0 it depends on the pathway of what where the student or whether what area they're going into so there's more than one pathway at at this particular school for the evil for evil laguard so if into studies i do believe it's 3.0 and if they decide that if they decide that they want
024to go into another pathway i think that's where the lower threshold comes in at so there are other pathways in in the focus choice school so if i understand you correctly are you are we telling my eva yeah so let me let me let me make sure i get some clarity the school is the water institute school right within the program that the water institute at lsu there are different requirements for for folks who go into different pathways so their committee which comprises of the lsu staff ebr schools community members they decided on what those uh gpas are depending on the pathway of what i guess studies i would suspect right that the child wants to go attend to at lsu yeah but there's one pathway right water we're talking about the water water coaster
025so that's the only pathway right unless there are sub-pathways under that i don't mean to get in the weeds with it but yeah so the water coastal school has different majors it has all different contexts and we could have the lsu faculty come by and explain to you but you know um they have different majors and different pieces within that which have different sets of requirements so their work was to wanted to align it close to that so but basically it's but it's still the water two three yes okay all right thank you you're welcome seaweed thank you miss swear jackson vice president collins yes um i i don't no interest requirement but a retention requirement of at least a 2.8 at the water campus which is higher than our magnet programs and the i
026it was my understanding that the general consensus of board members was that at least as it related to magnet programming some people had the concern that that was a bit elitist it further segregates the academically successful from the struggling and so then i just find it odd that we will in essence create a even more elitist campus because saying the interest requirement doesn't exist but the retention requirement at a higher threshold exists like legit says nothing um retention based on steering committed help me understand that please so each each focus choice school is based on i'm sorry let me correct myself and get some clarity because i'm realizing that i i don't think i'm really clear on the unless they fail the grade then the gpa doesn't matter is that what you explain to not
027for secondary because the water institute which i that's what you're okay yeah that's that's why okay so yes that's that's secondary okay so if that is a matter of earning units um depending on what grade level you're in what grade level you are in so for clarity there's a retention grade point average of at minimum 2.8 but that doesn't come into play until a child fails what was it that you were trying to explain that i'm apparently getting mixed up thank you we were talking about elementary school okay yes thank you thank you okay so thank you all right i got it thank you so then back to my other question retention based on retention policy or retention guidelines based on the steering committees each folk each focus choice school the committee determines what that
028um grade point average is and so for example there is one school that i am working on the grade point average retention is 2.5 so it varies depending on that pathway okay and and when i ask this question i'm not picking on you i'm getting a point of clarity miss porter is using the term or phrase steering committee decides but isn't that a matter of board power you okay can i respond yeah please yeah dr narcisse yeah so so we have a policy iddh magnet schools and programs that talks about retention how we handle retention how we handle um uh not just retention but admission as well should there be admission requirements the board recognizes all of those specifications in the pupil progression plan when it's adopted and so what normally will happen is and
029this is my understanding of the process the steering committee as as designed in the mou will make a recommendation to dr north cease that this is what we believe that the gpa should be for retention he'll bring that to the board the board will realize that through enacting the pupa progression plan which is actually your policy for things like progression retention admission not just for for regular programs but magnets gifted special programs programs like the focused choice schools all of that would be realized through the pre-progression plan and its adoption and so that happens normally july august uh a little bit later but the recommendation would first come from the committee via the mou to dr north cease who would then make a recommendation to the board to then vote and approve that okay and
030so again i i pointed out not to pick on as i've stated before whether people at the might get it or not and roll their eyes at me all right when i ask these questions i ain't picking i'm not picking at the people on the mic okay but i raised that particular point up because this particular board member is resentful of the repeated appearance of disregard for board authority as it relates to our job duties and so now that i've raised it up and brought it to the attention i know that you did not choose the words and language that you spoke so again i'm not talking to you necessarily what i'm saying is moving forward on this whole focus school yeah yeah can we please use the appropriate framework that the board will decide
031considering the recommendation of the steering committee because i don't think any board member intends to give away their uh or delegate their legal obligation and duty to determine policy thank you that's it thank you thank you vice president collins miss dyson thank you um so i have a question um as to the makeup of these steering committees so um does like baton rouge general or lsu and the is it lsu and the water campus or just the lsu water campus it's lsu and the water camp well the water campus is there for support okay um lsu is primarily the support of the that committee that helps us to create the curriculum and to determine professional development and those other aspects of the program and would the water campus have a seat at the table at
032the st would they be a a steering committee person so they do have voting potential at this steering committee they will be a part of the evaluation or the recommendation so lsu um decides who they want at the table for this oh they choose yes ma'am oh i see and baton rouge general chooses yes i see okay um and so i just wanted to make sure that their voices i'm really glad to hear that that they are the ones that build the steering committee and are very much because um they know what it takes and i don't want to set our students up for failure once they move on and you know they just they and i don't want them staying in a program that's not then going to give them what they need they're
033not going to be accepted because their gpa is too low or whatever um so i just want to set set our students up for success and also these these programs up for success and so i think we have to be very mindful that we're going to be offering a multitude of of options and choices that families can elect to participate in and so you know at some point with this retention you have to say am i the is this the best fit for me and my my stu my child you know or or should we move over to this where they can excel and succeed and truly do go into that field so i'm glad to hear that our partners are very involved it's their special specialization is extremely absolutely extremely important and they know
034the required skill level correct that will be needed okay thank you so much thank you miss diason uh ms ware jackson one more quick question um ms porter you mentioned a couple of minutes ago about community being part of the steering committees are these is community part of some of the steering committees or where do they fit in is it different at different schools or it varies at different schools so for example if we chose park as an example the faith-based community meaning there are people with i'm from the faith-based area who are invited to be part of that that steering committee and also there are people who are connected to the community what about the case of at eva lagarde eve laguard saying so there will be members from the community around the community
035because one of the things we wanted to be cognizant of is to make sure that we have buy-in and in order to be very important yeah in order to do that you have to embrace that neighborhood and then embrace those who are part of that vision for that that learning center which is you know the evil laguard center okay thank you thank you very much thank you miss swear jackson seeing no other questions or comments from the board we go to item e1 reports from board appointees to committees and agencies anyone have any reports seeing none will move to item f1 consideration a request for the approval of a job description for a school resource officer or a safety school safety officer have a motion mr blue you want to make a motion yes um
036my preference is that we postpone uh consideration of this uh item until i'd say a date uncertain because i'm not sure probably the earliest time would be that july 14th uh date that we have a committee the whole and the special meeting uh maybe but we can we can think about that but the reason is that um i think it would be more useful if we look at uh safety overall and i know we've gotten a report on one of the review you know safety recommendations but i'd like to see your report on the findings of the review of safety in schools and recommended you know recommendations as a whole to the board and then specifically in terms of positions whatever you want to call it um what what the administration is recommending um you
037know taking into consideration budget requirements um you know different schools special needs uh whatever but um i still think just looking at these two job descriptions uh kind of put together it just it feels rushed to me and i want to make sure that we're not just creating a position just to feel like we did something and i want to make sure that we um we get a clear recommendation of what what we want to see so that's that's why that's that was my reasoning behind not wanting to postpone it um okay miss dyson wants to second it but she has a friendly amendment too it's sims tyson so um i'd like to see because i know we're going to have a staffing timeline as well um so i'd like to see if we can
038if you'll take this as a friendly mr blue um to assign it to the cow we'll have a special meeting um at the cow to maybe have the uh presentation and approval so that they can go ahead and start staffing at that point so that would be to ask to have a special meeting along with the cow where we can have this time to gather more information and let me make sure and do you want it assigned to the committee of the whole oh well two or on the same date as the committee right okay which would be july 14th 14th so that gives this an extra week there too so it's three weeks yeah i'm fine with that we have a nation in a second thank you does staff have that motion you got
039it yes emotion by mr blue i'll read it back to you my understanding is emotion from mr blue is to assign the matter to a special meeting before the cow on july 14th for consideration sound right okay so motion in a second on this item on july 14th to to refer this item to a special meeting on uh july 14th um i see no other questions or comments from the board we go to the audience any comments on this item from the audience should i just yell there you go you got it you're on okay thank you mr blue had an incredibly great idea and then miss dyson ruined it if the boar if the administration the visitor from maryland and his colleagues don't have their act together with a firm idea yet there is
040absolutely no reason to believe given the evidence of their incompetence that you will have anything clear that you can give final approval to on the 14th of july it was a great idea to punt it until either date uncertain or the committee of the whole on the 14th but to pretend that this administration will have anything that you could um with any kind of confidence vote on for final action at a special meeting on the 14th that's ridiculous you should absolutely not postpone it to a special meeting on the 14th postponing it to a committee of the hall on the 14th was a fine idea thank you do i get his extra time restart again storm matthews um a couple of things that i saw that i think needed to be pointed out hopefully to
041be ready for when it comes back up um that are still problems salary range was changed from 55 000 um to see approved salary schedule as this is not an approved position where would that be also the sro versus sso have the exact same essential duties and responsibilities the list of qualifications for the sro is long and extensive with trainings listed etc meanwhile the sso just says high school diploma ged and they only added two years experience preferred but not required um it was made to sound like this person would be just checking for locked doors at the last meeting yet it says still to investigate criminal allegations per police department policies and then to enforce state law and local law and ordinances they have not been trained on those qualifications those job responsibilities need
042to be removed from that job description of the sso prior to the next meeting so that it can actually be two different jobs great afternoon um i actually agree with you i'm sorry my name is caronda coyle a proud parent and disabilities advocate i am actually in support of what ms dorm matthew stated in regards to making a change in regards to our sros um that did actually happen recently but i am also in agreement with ms dyson on actually holding um another meeting in regards to the job descriptions i do think that if we wait that we will actually be able to that would allow the public along with the board to be able to request more information and more information be provided to the public as well as we can also go back
043and look at that and compare it to the budget because as of right now in the budget it states that we are going to have a different amount of sros than what we actually received in public records requests and that is what is reflected in the news articles so i do think that we need to look at that as well as we also need to look at the pdf that i provided to you which was a study by brown university as well as the um the information i provided courtesy of the aclu in regards to what sro's the impact that they have negatively on children with disabilities as you know we have more than four thousand kids with disabilities in our school system that would be negatively impacted as it relates to sros and i
044hate to think about how we may replace officers such as like such as mr kd that work at northeast elementary and high which is a sheriff that actually knows our children by name and actually have a personal relationship with them so having someone that do not have the experience is something that would be extremely problematic but also like i said we also need to look at the data and look at every single thing that may come forth after we have more discussion so thank you so much and boy president tab and i didn't use all my time so i get it at the latest we'll talk about that later thank you miss corley any other uh comments from the audience on this item we come back now to the board and uh dr narcisse you
045would like to you yeah yes president tamman i just wanted to reassure the board that our hard-working staff can uh uh get it done what the board requests will be thank you um the board is clear madam secretary please conduct the vote please vote emotion carries some carries we move to item uh f2 consideration of a request for the approval of the following new job descriptions a esl bilingual community ambassador b community ambassador c homeless ambassador d mental health professional e academic program coordinators f ada compliance officer g school resource officer h director of mental health services i director of labor relations j youth development specialist k chief of plant operations l digital press operator m large format production operator n screen printing press operator o production finishing assistant p assistant director of facilities q
046assistant director of transportation r regional chef s coordinator for student activities t academic program supervisor strategic alignment operational excellence do i have a motion mr chapman before we do that i see that g school resource officer uh got back in there some kind of way when i duplicated the item so we need to remove that one okay everything i just said not g thank you for not making me read it again uh-huh am i right yeah um do i have a motion moved by mr goday and seconded by uh anybody want to uh mr baloo mr baloo yes i just wanted to offer a friendly amendment it's what i consider minor but we'll find out i wanted to change the title of i director of labor relations to director of employee relations um if um
047thank you okay so we have a motion and a second and a friendly amendment and um vice president collins you are on the board uh in in this item and a couple of other items these are a whole lot of uh personnel uh job description policy changes all at one time and uh i just want to express that i feel like this should have been workshopped before we just vote on these and uh it could be argued that yeah we had this for a couple of weeks but again these are a lot of uh to review while we at the same time had 22 or so agenda items in and also had a budget to review and i don't think it's wise for us to move forward with such a significant policy change as it
048relates to personnel without giving it enough time and consideration thank you vice president collins see no other questions thank you for comments from the board we go to the audience it comments on f2 good evening i'm james finney i don't know why you are even considering approving job descriptions that don't have reporting to filled out nor the placement on the salary schedule to send these forward with your approval would be a grave error and an abdication of the duty that the voters gave you for one thing we were promised when the agenda came out on tuesday that even though we wouldn't get to participate probably you would at least be discussing the budget and poof that item is gone so another week goes by with no discussion of whether the administration will ever finish writing
049the budget and here you are asked to approve um new job descriptions 18 19 or 20 depending on which ones actually count how many of these have the word teacher in them hurry count anybody find all those that have the word teacher in them i must have missed them i'm not clear whether school resource officer is part of the motion or not it's certainly what's printed here mr baloo did not exclude it he made a correction to what the director of labor relations is called that becomes employee that's fine the facilities coordinator is not part of the motion so i hope that's your intent even though that is attached as the backup it's not part of the motion so i hope the administration the visitor for maryland and his associates don't pretend that you approve
050that just because it was buried in the back up but the most important thing is it would be completely absolutely irresponsible of you to approve these positions with no idea how they're going to get paid for how much they're going to cost and how they would fit into the organizational chart so mr ballou ms collins ms jackson miss diason mr goday mr tavin please do not approve these tonight please make the administration finish their work tell you how they intend the structure of the organization to be as your policy demands please make them place these on the proposed budget salary schedule and then you can think about approving the salary schedules thank you this is a daniel lampboard again um i'm an ess paraprofessional from jefferson terrace academy i'm i'm actually working at um bernard
051terrace during the summer time but i'm in full agreement um that we should not approve these positions at this time i think we need to look back over and see look at the school system budget and what positions are most important and maybe wait until the committee of a whole to consider what which positions to approve and which ones not to um that's my position good evening boy members uh my name is chris toomes and i've spent the better part of this morning sitting in the state and government committee meeting with the congressional redistricting and i had the privilege of testifying in front of them today and one of the things that i had to bring to their attention is we are an outdated state completely outdated and i think that dr narcisse should be
052giving a fair shot to assemble what he feels like he needs in order for to get the district together um i'm aware that there may be some pieces that you know people have opinions about but we have to progress forward we've got to start becoming more modern that's why we're doing these job description changes i mean as you all know the state has been in the sense of suspense for i don't know how long and the rest of the country is moving forward i'm tired of being number 50 tired of being number 49 you know i don't think we've risen above 45 since i've been in school so my thing is is that you know i know i'm always advocating for mckinley and um advocating for south baton rouge but i feel like in this
053instance we need people in positions that can actually get the work done in a modernized society this is not 1960 since 1970 this is 2022. and i think that this board has shown that you have the capacity to see things like the force behind the trees as they say and we can see what's coming down the pipe because right now we're in a society that's spinning out of control and we need to have some type of stability in place in order to get us on track and so if it works let's just agree that we need something different and let's give the man and the entities that are running this deal what they need to make it happen thank you thank you mr tims and i watched your testimony today it was outstanding good afternoon
054i just learned that i'd have to get my own shirts made if i wanted to say ebr parent hurt my feelings but my name is caronda coyly proud parent of a child with a disability and disabilities advocate and i would like to first and foremost thank vice president ms collins or um her comments i also would like to thank um miss dyson for her comment on the last um topic and i would like to ask that the board consider doing the same thing with this one as they did with the last um consider the same motion for the last um statement the last item and the reason being is simple um we should actually that would give us time to actually be able to see the new job descriptions to make sure that they don't
055change but also this would give us an opportunity to be able to create an actual task force that can actually look at these job descriptions and compare them to the previous job descriptions and any other job descriptions that we've had before that in addition to that that would allow us the opportunity to get more input input on job descriptions to make sure that we have prudent um and effective individuals in the roles that will be created so that we can have those individuals that would know exactly what they're doing working with our children i am very much aware that we have had positions that individuals were not very well-versed in what their job description actually meant and what their roles and responsibilities were and those were individuals that received hefty salaries and so it would
056be extremely um extremely disgrunt i would be an extremely disgruntled individual if we actually wasted more money as we have done previously so i'm i'm begging and asking today um i wouldn't bring my child in here right now because he got a broke arm but i just want y'all to understand that i know that the staff that we have now work very hard and tirelessly with our children with disabilities and so whatever descriptions that we come up with we do have to make sure that we have individuals that actually know what they're doing when they're doing it how they're doing it and make sure that it's not putting our school system in a legally compromised position so uh x that we do create um that we actually hold off on this to the next meeting
057date that ms dyson had proposed as well as we create a task force that can actually help us with um narrowing down the specifics with these descriptions thank you any other comments from the audience good evening valencia johnson with the east bank ridge parish association of educators i move that you defer this to the next meeting please thank you any other comments from the audience seeing none back to the board vice president collins the consultant [Music] meeting before last had mentioned as they reviewed all the positions etc for the uh that we have like 5 000 positions on the books but we only have maybe 6 000 employees so obviously there's a whole lot of positions out there that are antiquated etcetera my question is these are a lot of positions between this agenda item
058and a couple of other agenda items how many positions will remain on the books let's say all of these items pass how many positions will remain on the books can somebody tell me uh miss hall can you please come thank you hello uh good evening vice president um collins and also president tapman i'm sorry um i cannot give you an answer because this is an ongoing process right now the first process i'm looking at folks are in positions and how i move them to the next position the correct board board approved positions because we do have and i know when mrs slaughter was here from ssa she spoke about positions that are antiquated which is one two people are in positions that are not board approved and i want to make sure that i'm on
059the right target or the right path so this is why this seems like a lot and i i understand it's a lot but this is important but i cannot tell you right now in terms of how many but this is an ongoing process and i will always give you an update if you request that thank you oh you're welcome so i get that it's important i also get that we need to move forward not one time that i've expressed concern has my problem ever been not wanting to move forward or being afraid of change etc my concerns have always been about the nuts and bolts and move of the moving and the moving pieces uh my concern still remains we would be lying because with the exception of maybe one or two of us nobody
060is retired to have had time to go through all of these positions figure out salary schedule no salary or schedule attached etc etc to do our due diligence and determining whether or not is a good idea for us to vote for this after two long meetings one had to be technically uh in effect recessed we have not had an opportunity to to give this some some real thought um and and uh and and the changes have not even really been put into context of the overall uh big pictures so my concerns still remain and thank you for asking that that question about the 5 000 positions thank you vice president collins mr goday yes thank you president chapman a couple of comments on my side um i think we need to be very careful as
061a board in how much we get into the minute detail of individual positions and how it goes you know we hired a superintendent with two major items one for academic performance and our students and secondly to bring us a balanced budget we have shown time and time again as a board we're not capable of doing the detail minutia that's required for this or we wouldn't have 5000 job descriptions it gets there because of that we as a board need to come up about 10 levels in what we are looking at because if we're sitting here wondering what is the large format production operator job description that is not something we as a board should be doing that's a policy that's not policy decisions and we implement our thoughts and our actions in in the budget
062and how the superintendent wishes to arrange if we want to get in and start arranging everything in the management structure of how he runs a district then we have to release him from any uh objectivity around what are the academic performance because we're not letting him run the district as he wants to run it now am i saying that that we should go crazy with him and let him do any absolutely anything he wants no but i think we ought to look at these for reasonableness and then go on from there and we hired the man we have to have trust in the man to they doing it and if he's not doing the job we'll get rid of him and get another one but to sit here and go try to go through and
063say i haven't had time to read 20 job descriptions i am retired and i have not read them because i don't view that as what i'm elected to the board to do i'm elected yes exactly whoever said what yes exactly my job is to implement policy and implement policies not reading large format print operator things we need to be focusing on policies to move our district ahead the types of things we've been doing for the last 20 years have got us where we've gotten in the past and we're trying to move forward from that we as a board need to step up and go at a higher level in all of this instead of worrying about a job description far down the chain and updating job descriptions across the board and i'm sure i'm gonna
064make some board members upset with me but that's too bad because that's just the way it is that's what i feel and i think that holding back on these things is holding back our progress and if we want to stay where we are and stay 49th and 50th then let's keep doing what we're doing because that's the definition of insanity thank you thank you mr goday miss diason yes thank you i just wanted to really just make a shout out to uh the effort that is going into trying to sort through all this this is a major um mess and it's not taken just a few years to create this we i have been wanting us to do an overhaul of all of our systems and you know really take a look at and this
065is a great way to start we just don't need all these positions hanging around in in our language we we need to totally eliminate the the whole language if we've got all these unfilled things that haven't been filled in years and or that are antiquated in the the description we need to address it and when you're talking about 6 000 you know we're just making a dent here and and we'll keep on going and we're going to get better with this so thank you for all your hard work and keep plugging along thank you miss diason uh vice president collins i'm just want to make it clear that i'm going to keep doing my job i realize that board duty is policy and budget and by virtue of this this this item is policy and
066budget if it was not for us to pay attention to it would not be on the agenda because it wouldn't have to be but clearly it's something for us to decide so clearly it's something for us to pay attention to the law says policy and budget is my purview okay i'm not trying to tell him who to put in the position and i tell him where to put it on the r chart or how to manage the position correct that's not my purview nor have i an interest in getting into the weeds of that but i do have a responsibility to pay attention to the policy which a job description falls under and a budgetary matter which the job description should include a reference to the salary grade it's budgetary all in one thank you
067vice president collins mr goday yes and i will respectfully have a different view and madam vice president can have her own views i'm sure she's welcome to those but my view is that we get to vote on this when we come to approve the budget and that getting into individual job descriptions is not policy that is operations and i have my opinion and i listen to yours ma'am okay quite quite respectfully i listen to yours without comment thank you very much for doing the same for me thank you the board is clear madam secretary please conduct the vote are you sure we need to vote on it yes it ain't our job please vote the motion carries we move now to f3 grade configurations schools in the south consideration of a request for the approval
068of the following grade configurations a the new elementary school in the southern part of the district as a pre-k eighth grade b the new high school in the southern part of the district this is sixth through twelfth grade strategic alignment student achievement and mr goday your motion yes uh i'd like to make a motion but i'd like to make a slight adjustment okay under item a a new elementary school in the southern part of the parish of the district as a pre-k 8th grade pending confirmation of of uh financial ability for construction or i don't know what's right words say but pending pending uh finance pending construction estimates which are financially reachable in the tax plan or some words like that counselor you you all wrapped up in that feasibility viability in the tax plan
069okay let me let me read it okay sorry about that that's okay motion is to uh to approve the request uh for the following great configurations a new elementary school in the southern part of the district as a pre-k through eighth grade uh pending confirmation of funding availability and then b the new high school in the southern part of the district there's a sixth through twelfth grade second okay miss diasome wants to make a friendly amendment um okay so i understand the financial feasibility piece that is definitely a good thing to add here but i also have been trying to um understand like how many less elementary students are going to be able to attend because we put the middle in there and you know i'm trying to trying to wrap my head around how
070many students are going to be able to attend these schools do we have an approximate can we yeah i just i really need a second um because we're beginning to discuss the item we're beginning to discuss the item and as there is mr blue seconds so miss dyson i'll just give you the uh okay um so is there someone that can speak to that yes i'll get some from the accountability assessment department i'd like to make sure that um we're not limiting our numbers in certain grade yeah according to the uh memos that were sent to the board from dr narcisse the pre-k 8 site was supposed to be serving an enrollment of up to 1500 students and the 6 through 12 was supposed to be up to two thousands yeah okay and so um
071i think that all ties into this feasibility and and all of that so um we're saying at those left those numbers and the and it meets if not it would come back to the board is that correct okay i'm good thank you thank you um thank you mr johnson thank you miss tyson um vice president collins i just need to understand what happens in the event that the money doesn't work out does it just come back to the board okay yes ma'am it returns to the board okay consideration thank you vice president collins miss ware jackson thank you when considering um grade configurations have we looked at any research around that 612 what are we basing this on i know there is concern around having six graders on the same campus as 12th graders what
072kind of research have we done to support this decision other than needing needing middle schools for this consideration board member jackson we looked at the amount of population for the amount of kids that would go into the school the 612 configuration is not a new configuration we can show uh how many school districts cost the country do that and also uh the pre-k 8 is not a new configuration either actually more school districts are moving away from actually a middle school 678 to combine either a pre-k 8 model or a 6-12 but we can share with you more research on that you know the decision on making this model this way is as you know in our population on that side of town it is we have a tremendous amount of kids and we don't
073have enough schools and so a part of and we can show that data as well but what we've decided was to try to create a configuration where we would be able to have more students into those schools and so we came to the pre-k 8 model and the 612. in looking at the models across the country when you look at the buildings themselves is there a particular way that is designed so that you don't have the older kids in the same areas or you know how to use we will probably we'll need to consider all of those things so you just i want to be reassured that those elements will be taken care of i understand perfectly the um the population increase and the need for that middle school yes board member jackson um um
074you know again the 612 model is not brand new it is across the nation so we're here yeah it's not here a whole lot yes um and so what we can do is show you examples of that um even with the architects and those things they there's always a separation approach uh and the question you've asked has been asked many times before when you know when when a community begins to want to build a 612. so we can share that with you if you'd like yeah i think that would be helpful not just for me but you know for the the entire community especially those that that are concerned you know i came up in a school where it was k-12 you know and the little kids hardly ever saw the big kids we were
075on different halls different areas and there were there were never any problems but this is a different day yes you know so i know that there are a lot more things to consider so i appreciate that we'll have the accountability assessment team and our facilities folks uh prepare you uh pack to show the research behind it thank you miss where jackson um i'm on the board um miss anderson you probably expected me to call on you didn't you can you come up and um visit with me a little bit um and miss ware jackson i believe and i'm gonna miss anderson can confirm this but in our uh pre-k um eight with uh jefferson terrace uh it's designed and if you've not been there yet go check it out because they're they're separate it's one
076big school but they did a really good job uh in the design of of keeping the kids you know where they can see them and not with each other and not the older kids with the younger kids so they can i know do that in design um and so um my question is my one of my concerns about this item is the financial part of what mr goday i think addressed with this motion is not having enough money or enough funding through the tax plan to uh to go pre-k uh aid um can you speak to that for me or is that not i'm just teeing it up for you i think so so overall we've had some discussions as far as the programmatic needs of a pre-k to a and so we just review
077that to see what can be eliminated as far as programming are reduced for space to help support it and i think that's the first step in figuring out how to support it within the budget overall that budget does not support the typical offerings of a middle school and so that's why i say we would have to look at those format programmatic needs to see what can be changed to help support that configuration let's talk about that a little bit right in middle school we're quite we we kind of have a a model where middle schools have certain things can you just gymnasium will come up uh as one of those first things where typically a middle school will have somewhat of a full gymnasium but at a minimum it is something that basketball games could
078be um done uh they would also have play fields a little more um as far as flag football soccer and things of those that nature which we at this school site we have the partnership with rick which kind of takes uh takes care of those things um class configuration as well it's a larger uh student teacher ratio for the middle school so we just have to look at those configurations when it comes to that middle school component as well the dining and things of that nature administration you know you have more administration just because it's a larger school a school configuration but those those things will probably change minimally yeah it's more so of the amenities right and if dr narcisse can find the extra money how much more do we need i would say
079you want to be at this point at least around 35 million to just fully support now if we go through and again kind of condense some of those programmatic offerings we can definitely come down on that but if we just want pie in the sky everything that we're typically used to you want to be somewhere around 35 million okay which and what is that compared to i'm sorry i don't have the budget in front of how much more that's about 15 million more how much we have in that 24 25 is the overall and we're looking somewhere around a 20 20 million dollar construction budget okay um let me let me uh let me get i'm gonna go to uh vice president collins uh and i don't she made i don't know if she wants
080to ask you a question you may have to come back up oh you do um and i'm so i'm good yes um vice president colin i i meant to ask for the enrollment what's the data on the enrollment needs we saying uh pre-k through eight and then at six twelve and then we also later on talking about pre-k through eight uh with kendall worth and so then what's uh projected enrollment needs for us to say we need a we need middle school middle school and then later on an agenda item middle school in a relative same vicinity and i know that there are some enrollment needs but how much do we need is my question okay um as far as um the middle school needs there's really not a middle school in that area right
081so the closest middle schools are woodlawn middle or glasgow middle right and then jefferson terrace has middle school jefferson terrace does have the middle school component as well you're correct um we're trying to relieve the overcrowded woodlawn middle woodlawn high with these schools in the south and to give another option in that area for those students who don't have to travel across town to get to their quote unquote neighborhood school okay and that's fair and respectable but again we're looking at potentially assuming all items pass three additional middle school in the configuration yeah and so then what's did we do did we do any data analysis on how much we really need because and i not just full disclosure i know sometimes middle school needs i talked about like in north band rouge i try
082not to poo poo on other people's territory so i keep my mouth closed but in some regard some of that need is perceived versus actual okay and so then how much of this again i agree that there needs to be something some expansion in some middle school configurations but do we need three sites and what data do we use to determine that we do or don't okay from my understanding the kennelworth the kindleworth middle is supposed to be a focus choice so it may not attract the same student population but um we probably need a housing or i'd say i didn't do the numbers real tight but i'm guessing we need at least 600 seats for middle school to relieve and you say you didn't have a chance to necessarily pull i don't have any
083clinton zones no ma'am i didn't draw attendant zones that would be the next step and then we'd come present those to the board when we have raw numbers and i would feel better i mean you know beyond i have an overall concern of i have overall concern of okay not having a full discussion about and going through the facilities master plan etc and then making these decisions but i would feel i would feel better if they if we had done some enrollment projections to to have a better gauge of maybe one maybe one site needs um to include middle school and other doesn't necessarily or what have you um but thank you uh for sharing what you do have thank you thank you vice president colin so dr narcissi you want to make a comment
084it's just uh not about this issue uh the uh the um the question that was on the construction the numbers that uh miss anderson referred to is uh usually how we've done things in terms of that uh amount one of the conversations that we've had and ms anderson can talk about that is how do we um able to uh we have a lot of partnership in spaces so an example you're about working with breck or these other things where we don't have uh everything in the school but we are using some of our community assets um to do that work so i just wanted to make sure that we highlight that in terms of the you know do we have the costs for the school i think we're trying to as we've been even pushing
085on architects those folks is to create get us to become a much more modernized school system there are schools that are built uh much larger but with a lot of different ways that they've gone about that and we're hopefully kind of moved to that design versus on how we are doing things traditionally yeah the only thing i want to say about that is we build legacy schools we don't want to build schools that in 25 years we're going to be tearing down and so um i don't i don't like the idea of building a school on the cheap i think we i think we need to build them with the standards that we have and we've had in the past and so um we need the money not not that now as far as the
086brec combination we worked hard on that and we couldn't do this without brett breck is already contributing a great deal and i'm sure they'll contribute more they're very excited about this but i want you to know that and i want the public to know we've we've uh it's been exhaustive work with brec to get this done so uh if there are other partners out there that can step up um we need to build good schools good good strong schools 100 with you by the time i just want to again uh the push is you know um uh we uh quite frankly do things very traditional uh in some of our work and uh there's a lot of uh places that have been much more forefront than us in these areas and so we just want
087to try to uh modernize us into a much more space and so uh miss anderson the team the facilities team are looking at all avenues for that we will come on budget um and uh provide quality okay i'm sorry miss diason yes thank you um i i'm very excited about this because one thing that we're not considering is that in our strategic plan we definitely have also uh along with a lot of other really good things literacy and um those kinds of things uh but we also have and to increase our usership and i strongly uh i know that we were like 35 that chose and that doesn't even include charter choice but it does include all those and this is it probably has grown from but of population that does not use our schools
088and does not consider us to be the school system of choice and so i think providing these opportunities in areas where we have just had such a lack of capacity if and also if you look at the growth of the district and you know where the bodies are and and the population you can see that the growth happened in district 8 and district 9 and district 7 and district 6. and so we've got to create opportunities for more people to come in and use us i i think that um there's a lot of people that that truly want the religious experience in schools but i also think there's a lot of people that the grandparents are having to pay the tuition that they're having to take from their potential retirement later and then they're going
089to be without retirement dollars and back on needing financial help because they haven't been able to plan for their own retirements so i feel like this is going to address a need and pull students who may not be we can't just be narrow-minded and only look at the students that we have yes we are going to make attendance line changes as we build these new schools and they will help to relieve overcrowdedness but at the same time we need to be looking at attractive programs in all of our schools across the district that will attract and and i think as we kind of get our our uh lines better we will be able to have room to offer opportunities everywhere and so i'm i'm very happy for the families of of east baton rouge parish
090so thank you thank you miss diaz and uh miss where jackson we're still on number three right yes ma'am okay we've kind of been floating around we've been leaning toward four but we're still on three yeah well i'll pass yeah i think it was i didn't see anything because it was it's relevant to middle school capacity so that's why i didn't uh really say anything so um the the i have one more question for miss anderson um she's looking at me like why are you doing this to me okay um what's the can you talk about timeline a little bit i know this this is the this is the the elementary school is the next one right yes and let's talk let's talk about the timeline when when when are we getting started where are
091we now when are we going to open the school when we're going to shovel the first piece of dirt and all that got it um i did not bring the overall skill it's okay just an overview as you know we have an offer in on the property so i'm hoping any day now we'll be able to so really that's that's our starting point the architect has been selected so as soon as we have the land and go through some site due diligence and just investigation we'll be able to kick off with design so i'm projecting if we get an offer within the next week or so um we'll have a due diligence period of at least what's in the purchase agreement by august we should be able to kick off design and then the plan
092is um that school to open august of 2024. okay thank you i appreciate it i promise not to call you up again um that uh the board is clear for now uh we go to the audience on this item any comments from the audience uh on f3 thank you james swinney again um mr goday said the board's job was to implement policy i hope he misspoke and meant the board's job was to set policy which is then implemented by the administration i'm trying to figure out why this is even on your agenda are you hoping to lock in your replacements on the board with some decision that then people feel compelled not to correct i mean as i understand that one of these per plan purchases is still under negotiation the other one may be
093more or less complete but why would you establish a grade configuration without ever having had the the way up in the sky policy discussion supported by data and research that is shared with the public as opposed to shared in some little private email chain among the seven of you why would you not have a discussion about whether the appropriate model is k through five or k through six and then middle school and then high school which is either ninth all in their tiny little corner by themselves and then 10th through 12th get to go out and stretch their legs a little bit or 8th through 12th or 7th through 12th or 6th through 12th or whatever that would be an interesting discussion if there were any data to support it as opposed to people just
094stating their opinions i have an opinion that k through 8 and 6 through 12 is great and i have people whose views i respect that have worked with those age groups that say that would be a horrible idea so not knowing how much the price would be not knowing how many students you have not knowing whether it's a good idea academically why in the world would you even consider voting on this tonight from a purely economic standpoint are you going to have six or eight programs at both of these schools that are what half a mile apart and that's something you should think about before you all vote yes uh there's been a great promise of a master plan someday why are you going to lock in some decision for this without a without a
095master plan first it's not like stuff's going to get built next week furthermore i object to the way the agenda item is worded the southern part of the district that's a huge area unless somebody just happens to know which pieces of land you're looking at there is nothing here that provides transparency to the public if you can't provide an address which you maybe can't for the one behind the stores on segan but you could very well for the one on perkins at least provide a legal description a map something this is outrageous you should vote no thank you my name is daniel lamford again and i i'm in agreement with mr finney um we also need to determine do we even have enough employees to fill these positions and if so how are you if
096not how are we going to go about getting those employees maybe that's a question for miss nicola hall but um of course the biggest item is the budget um we've been told that this could cost 35 million if if i if i heard correctly that that's a tremendous amount of money it seems like we spend millions every month certainly every year and then so those are some things we we really need to think about and um you know and then we have to get all the people together and make sure it's built correctly i know at on jefferson terrace academy where i work and i think it that there are good employees there i think that the principal and all them are are they're good people but the the way we've had plumbing issues um
097i don't think paint peeling off the walls um and and just the the it wasn't constructed um as well as it could have been so that that's another thing we need to look at we need to look at the design of the school and make sure it's serving the needs of the population so i would really encourage us to look into this more carefully before we proceed i encourage you to vote no on it until we have a better discussion of these items and more coranda corley parent and disabilities advocate um we don't we're not looking at how many students are we going to um have in the building i think that it was great that he mentioned how many staff members because i know according to our budget right now we're supposed to cut
098we're supposed to be cutting um more than 50 individuals that work with children with disabilities as well as gifted and talented i also know according to our budget we're supposed to be eliminating four bus aides that actually ride the bus with our children with disabilities i know that also according to the budget we're supposed to be eliminating more than four positions in child welfare and attendance including hearing officers that actually deal with manifestation determination reviews that impact our children with disabilities so when we look at the grade configuration for the schools in the south we need to look at one what how who will we have working there two how many children do we actually think that we're going to impact or affect because our problem for why parents are choosing not to bring our
099children to east baton rouge parish public school system is not due to overcrowding the reason is because we have not been innovative since that's the word that people like to use so i'ma use a different word we have not been creative we should look at schools like the dr william h henderson school which is in massachusetts i know i've spoken with mr goday when he was president about that school many times and i don't think i've ever heard one board member do the research or look into that school that is a school that allows children with disabilities along with regular ed kids to be co-taught in a classroom along the lines of kind of similar to a montessori the children with disabilities actually are able to participate in all extracurricular activities within their building and
100this school is a school that is a k through eighth grade or higher so and they have a waiting list that is something that we should look at because it's not equity it's equality with accommodations and modifications it is something that is in place and that works with ada and idea so when we talk about schools that we're going to expand in the south we also need to look at schools that are that will be expanded in the south that are charter schools that will be taking funding away from our schools our school system i know the budget says that it's supposed to uh take approximately 0.1 million but that was only for type 1 that was enough for type 2 so we actually need to look at that and i promise you i'm not
101even through coming through the general budget yet and have not touched the special budget and i can quote these numbers that's on page 18 just in case you need a reference so i ask that we actually hold off on this until we can get a study to show how many students we actually will attract but also what type of programming thank you good evening dale flowers um let me first say thank you dr narcisse for bringing capital high school back into uh this system uh if you can recall that was the first thing i asked to review when we met and your team said it couldn't be done but i'm glad you guys have made that happen uh i'm not gonna spend a lot of time rehashing what i said last week when it came
102to this item but i had questions about the budget and that's what uh mr golde brought up that's what you guys are talking about so i brought your numbers uh from the budget when we approved these taxes back in 2018 and this community has entrusted you guys with 936 million 814 thousand 488 dollars of that 477 million 895 before construction so i'm looking at this again your numbers and i'm trying to see where we are and why this item is before us when it is not due to be built until 24. excuse me 24 25 my question is the items that are here i don't know if you guys can answer if you can tell me who can answer and get these answers to me each of you have my email address or however you
103can get it to me uh i'm asking land purchase for these schools 10 million dollars the elementary school was scheduled to be built in 20 or 21. so apparently it has not been built but you guys have set aside 25 million for that school for this high school it is 45 million total of 80 million dollars for this project you also have brownsville uh for 2122 at 25 million you have forest heights at 2122 for 4 million you have the new brcvpa uh 2023 for 28 million uh wildwood 2022-23 for 3.5 million mckinley high school for 2324 at 35 million then woodlawn high school uh stem projects for 1.5 million my question is are we on budget with these projects uh prices have gone up for everything so are we on budget are we over
104budget capital high school is going to need some money as well uh so my question is where are we on the budget with these projects if we're over how much are we over who under how much are we under and how we're going to get this done over these next few years thank you guys happy juneteenth happy father's day to you father thank you any other comments from the audience hi elizabeth alfonso i'm a parent in ebr schools um i wasn't coming to speak on this but when someone mentioned something about the research um and i like that i thought let me just check and see what's out there um there's a website i don't know if y'all are familiar with the eric website um it's eric.ed.gov um there's actually um a research in into
105practice article on grade configuration there and i mean i just pulled it up in the past 15 minutes that we've been sitting here uh it says that the research on grade configuration is inconclusive at best and there is no research that shows one configuration is better at improving student learning um so that's what this article says i mean i know i know i have an opinion but my opinion doesn't necessarily mean that that's best practice um but it seems like from having looked at this article in this short amount of time that y'all have been discussing other things or this um that you might be coming out back coming at this decision backwards i do think you should wait on it um it talks about at the very bottom of the article considerations for when
106you are developing another school and setting up configurations what you should consider the school or the district's curricular and the structural needs and goals the size and design of the buildings that's something that won't be decided evidently until after you go forward with this there's some other things on here too but the research is out there and i really think it's a disservice to to y'all if you have to make these decisions you need the details and you need to be provided with the details to make sound decisions you can't build something on sand you need you need the information and that's all thank you thank you any other comments from the audience seeing none back to the board ms dyson yes miss anderson can you come back up please um i just wanna again
107clarify and get some clarity so we um we passed a tax plan that had the um one of the schools to be built and finished and open for students when this particular school yeah um it just gives a the only thing that's set in is the date to kick it off okay and so that one like as it was said i'm not looking at it i think it was 2021-22 you can grab something if you need to nothing in the car i know it's not the car um so the time i think it was 2021 basically of when the elementary school was supposed to kick off and so we were behind per se on purpose go out with the rfq for architectural selection or architecture so we we would have already had the land purchased
108we would have started and when would school open because we had these dates well it always ends up being when that project actually gets kicked off oh so yeah but if it had stayed on time i'm saying if it was staying on time we were supposed to open the school 23 20 22 23 or 23 24. if we had set on time more than likely we would have had where that school would have opened august of 2023 and we're saying if we can go ahead and get these uh moving along that we can still do that okay so we're gonna be a year late okay so um so i guess that's what i'm i'm trying to see we we had to jump it because the land out in the southern part of the district is
109so expensive being grabbed up losing the potential to have because somebody some developer got it and wetlands and all of the things that have created this um i knew as a as a board member that um we weren't we i thought that 10 million for the whole land purchase was not gonna and said so publicly um but that's all we got so we're um and i'm just as proud as can be that we have managed and i'm ready to have that closing done so that we really will have done it you know along with that breck partnership we'll will have done it and i i didn't know it was going to be possible so um i think that the main thing is is that you know the the the voters voted on a tax plan
110and we have been so proud to be able to say that we've been on time and on budget um and so i think we need to really continue to try to push that because we're we're not on this one on time because of this delay and um this first time since i've been on the board that we are not going to be on time and that it kind of saddens me but we at least need to get there now while we can and i think that when you look at this time frame it's aggressive um and we'll make it i have all faith in csrs for helping us get there so uh thank you boy remember where jackson thank you madam vice president um we're talking about timelines and we're talking about two separate schools
111right so what's the timeline difference between the um the first one that's behind schedule would have been the elementary school i don't know which one it that is on this uh if that's the k-8 or the pre-k to the pre-k five is the elementary was is the first it's scheduled well what you'd be voting on today is if that configuration would change from pre-k uh pre-k to going from 3k5 to pre-k 8. and the other is what would have been basically the high school what one what is the timeline for the second project the one that's that project um i wish i had brought my book in just to make sure i give the exact date but that high school the secondary school i am pretty sure is scheduled to be kicked off 2024 and
112the architect that we're looking at starting in august is really for the the elevator the elementary the pre-k which is currently pre-k-5 and this item is to change that configuration to a pre-k-8 okay and um now thank you ma'am i appreciate that dr narcisse i want to go back to the timeline for this comprehensive plan the study of the whole district where we look at everything and we look at feeder patterns in the whole nine yards which would include this area as well what kind of timeline are we looking at to do that because we've got a lot of things on the table that's dealing with schools and different kinds of configurations and different styles and all of that and it feels like we're really jumping ahead on things before we actually do this plan
113for the district we are we don't just feel like it but we are so for the facilities master plan uh which is our comprehensive uh miss spaulding you come up and just give them an update where we are on that please and while i'm in school we're talking about you know not just facilities not just looking at and programmatic but programs theater patterns and yes so let me just say this right before uh ms baldwin comes up so in part one that you saw dr robinson actually presented to this board it was probably uh i don't think it was the last board we got to imagine before that just to show programmatic pieces um uh we wanted to show you where the population of students were in terms of programmatic uh that was part one
114um and then uh he's finishing that programming that's also going to be inclusive in the facilities plan uh please recall that in the numbers that you saw you saw where majority of the population of students were located yeah you know that in the in the facility's master plan they'll show you capacity and those things and so what's very clear from our demographic shift is that we have way more students in south baton rouge than we have north right and so what we're trying to do now is as um as ms spaulding will talk to you about is give you the timeline of that but i just wanted to bring that up because as we're going through this we're trying to work in conjunction because we still have a lot of kids in the south baton
115rouge area in which we need to you know get into schools and so uh miss spaulding could you uh please share uh with the board the timeline so the board will recall that you approved an rfp earlier this year and that rfp was not let when it was approved there has been research that's been happening in my department since november of last year consulting with different companies around the country to look at facility master plans the cost for that is multiple six figures and we don't have the funding set aside for that frankly and so how we've chose to manage some of the items that i think are important in that facility master plan is seeking other opportunities to be able to gain that data right so i've been working with an esco engineering firm
116to do engineering assessments in our schools so that we can see the path forward with that work we've worked with different architects in the community in our indefinite delivery agreement to look at the square footage in our buildings to look at the building systems and to give some estimates about where we are with those i think you've probably heard me say before our roofing systems are out of warranty there was a really big replacement that happened a little over 20 years ago and so there's multiple schools where the roofing warranty has expired and so the district has to come together to plan we are moving forward daily literally to be able to collect data that's supportive of the information that you need to work through the schools at this point dr narcissi and i have
117spoken about working with current partners and divvying up the responsibilities in the plan that's not final we've just talked about it um to be able to execute more quickly um and in some cases with the work that we've done it'll be a little bit cheaper to be able to do it that way we want a good quality solid plan that will take the district forward for the next five or ten years frankly i think you'll remember that i mentioned earlier that the board it would be helpful if the board would set policy to guide our work moving forward and looking at the buildings that's something that frankly should happen before facility master plan but to answer your question i won't belabor the point we are looking at moving forward with selecting someone to complete the
118facility master plan in july and the estimated time has been anywhere between three to six months to be able to deliver it okay starting in july and then three to six months down the road sometime before christmas it looks that's possible okay thank you you're welcome thank you um miss where jackson vice president collins oh shoot well never mad but i wrote it down but i didn't thank you okay thank you the board is clear uh madam secretary please conduct the vote please vote the motion fails we move now to f4 consideration of a request for the approval for a pre-k 8th grade configuration at kenilworth school condition upon its return to the east baton rouge parish school system strategic alignment student achievement do we have a motion move by mr ballou seconded by ms
119dyson i don't have any uh any comments or questions yet from the board so we'll go to the audience any uh comments on item f4 from the audience so let me read this agenda item consideration my request for the approval for a pk through eighth grade configuration that kendall worth conditioned upon its return to the school system that owns it there's nothing in here about focus choice even though i think there was quite a bit in the backup about focus choice and since there was stuff in the backup about focus choice a week ago it's germaine for me to talk about the visitor from maryland and his presentation to bessie the other day where he has all these grand plans for capital high for stuff that will happen after he's gone off to his next
120job which disturbed me because that hadn't been on your agenda at all so back to this item the the same thing that applied to why it's premature to come up with a grade configuration for the schools you're going to build applies to kenilworth there's no report about the condition of the school i haven't seen any work from mr johnson on who would be going here i mean are you gonna i heard what miss diason said last week is the plan to suck all the students out of magnolia woods and highlands who can do something else with them is the plan to have a focused choice school at um kenilworth in order to not serve the kids in that neighborhood or at least not the ones that don't excel academically remember as mr goday said you
121are the body that is supposed to set policy you are not the uh the tail that well you appear to be the tail your heat try that again forget the analogy because i'm screwing it up you need to set policy you do not need to follow what somebody who lives in maryland decides your policy should be and then just kind of pass whatever without giving it full consideration are you going to have pre-k through 8 schools you're gonna have age three through eight schools you're gonna have pre-k through fifth are they gonna have neighborhoods is every single school in the entire district gonna be a magnet so you've got buses going all over the place all the time is the visitor from maryland setting this up to destroy all sense of any neighborhood schools so
122everything's a charter and he can claim that he replicated the new orleans miracle or disaster depending on your opinion in the school district where he was hired to do that and appears to be doing just that anyway i see no reason to pass this item please reject it thank you for rejecting the last one okay uh again chris toombs uh i would like to speak on this item because i was once an employee at that site at kennelworth and i can tell you this is going to cost you a minute to get that building up to cold um the last time i was there the urinals did not work the boy's bathroom had to do bathroom duty and that was one of the most uh disgusting experiences of my life which is why i came
123up here last time and i was adamant about the site not being brought back into the district however now that i'm with the understanding that the entity that is housing the space now will no longer beat it and it's just the site right so that definitely makes a world of a difference um i will say this though um i know i spoke about focus choice schools the last time i was up here and i think that now that i've had the time to sit down and speak with some colleagues and some other individuals i think i'm getting a better understanding of what the presentation is going to be um as you know every time i come up i talk about the reallocation of resources and it being equitable um in in essence um being a
124mckinley graduate i'm always thinking about the resources being adequate adequated fairly across the board um i've had the privilege of speaking with uh board member goday about some of his ideas for mckinley i think there are great ideas i think there are things that i can get behind people can get behind those things coming to manifestation had a chance to speak to dr thompson and he alerted me that there are some things coming down the pike for mother mckinley that would be good so i think that um i will say this i see that ochsner is a potential partner and i think that is a very ideal thing if they're going to bring the district back because obviously baton rouge and louisiana particularly suffers from one of the largest brain drains in the country we're
125losing like people left and right and so if we can prepare them early on to be active and participate in this deal with the understanding of being healthcare administrators and workers i think that'll be a great deal however i would like to say this if a school that is yet to come back into the district can be considered for a partner that is illustrious as an ochsner my expectation is that other schools as they are slated to be built uh particularly mother mckinley i would like to see her get something on the same level as the ava la guard center and um the kendall works project i have good faith that you all will do the right thing in that regard because as you can see everybody has a lot of input about how these
126resources are being allocated and as i said mckinley is 115 years old and it's due for a facelift so um yeah thank you coranda corley parent disabilities advocate um kenworth is not in ada compliance the building is not the facility never was so we will be getting a building that we don't know what the condition is it is in but we do know that children with disabilities and employees with disabilities would not be able to enter the building safely he would not be able to go throughout the building safely have we done a study to see how much money that's going to cost to renovate that building and bring it up to code that's number one number two it originally had um an expectation of how many students we wanted to um attract to kennelworth
127and it did originally state that it was going to have a focus choice program um that ochsner was going to do that was going to be extremely similar to what baton rouge general is doing at park elementary that's not creative in fact ochsner program that they have right now with kenner discovery is not one that is passing it is one that has been failing that is something that we can pull up on ldoe's website and that is and it does discriminate they only allow children in via a lottery that was why our school system told them no they are now going to open up baton rouge discovery at the reynolds building and it is going to be a type 2 charter so what program are we going to put at kennel worth because we cannot
128put a focus choice program because we actually told mckinley high no when they asked for the water program which was a focus choice program so how are we planning to attract the students that we were talking about attracting that was actually on board docs in addition to that can we make sure that we do not continue to try to attract programming that is going to be selective and and only allow students via a lottery lottery mean exclusion we all know the probability and the statistics as it relates to winning a lottery but we never look at the probability in the statistics when it comes to a lottery with exclusion that is something that we cannot do we have a legal obligation under the office of civil rights as well as the civil rights act to
129actually make sure that every student can enter into any of our buildings and our programs let's not make ken if when we get this building back let's not make that a dedicated magnet let's not but also let's not say that we're going to put a focus choice program in it either because that's going to be again another opportunity for exclusion i yield my eight minutes and i'll get it back later thank you you know the comments from the audience seeing none back to the board ms where jackson thank you president tatman uh dr narcisse the item speaks of pre-k 8 configuration but the backup has nothing much about the uh configuration but more about the actual programming um which is a bit disturbing to me um it looks like we're kind of jumping forward again
130i bring back the the idea of the comprehensive plan and how all this fits in and this is another medical choice uh it looks like when we vote on this we're going to be basically based on the backup sealing this focus choice plan um and i'm not sure that we're quite ready for that especially with it being the same type of programming although a different operator but the same type of medical programming we've got one at glen oaks high school which i'm concerned about with what was proposed at what i saw at bessie and also at at park and now we're looking at kennel worth and um i can't move forward with this item on the agenda that speaking of k k8 and the backup is supporting something that's not in in within the uh
131what we're actually voting on so i just want you to know that so you'll understand why i vote no on this item thank you ms where jackson vice president collins so actually uh if it's permissible a moment of privilege because i remember what it was i wanted to mention which was the previous agenda item pastor flowers had asked for information past the flowers the uh public comment is not for requesting information but sometimes a board member can pick up your request and i intended to pick up your request and so then if you could email your questions to me and i'll send it since it can't be answered in this moment because i didn't do it at the appropriate time okay thank you thank you vice president collins mr chairman you had pressed your yes
132sir just a brief announcement um the board secretary brought to my attention board docs this is just a tactical mention for the board the audience board docs reflects a carry when there's a majority vote of the for our minutes and for the purpose of our policy a motion can only carry with five which is the majority of the membership of the board so if you're watching it on board docs and you're watching the vote and it says carries it doesn't mean necessarily motion carries and that's something we'll work with technology to see if we can correct i just want to make sure that everybody understands you need five to mo for a motion to carry and there was some confusion on the last item that failed because it shows carries on the board just want
133to specify that all right thank you mr chairman ms diason yes yes i'd like to make a substitute motion that since there's you know more information that people are feeling like they need i'd like to make a substitute motion to put this to our special meeting that we've called for the um prior to the cow on july is it 14th you were the second on the original motion i will make the move who made the uh first balloon um mr golde is making the motion the substitute motion you just do it you do it okay mr goday's made the motion is there a second um i would be willing to accept that as a friendly amendment if uh miss dyson is that which i want to do okay all right just push it uh okay
134so we're um we're back on the original motion but it's been amended so i believe we have to go back to the audience does anyone wish to from the audience wish to speak about the amended motion i'm james finney i apologize i think i neglected introduced myself last time i wouldn't want any of you to have forgotten my name i would strongly encourage this to be moved to the committee of whole not to a special meeting you do not have enough information to consider the grade configuration and i have no confidence that the visitor from maryland will be able to put that together in the next three weeks thank you any other comments from the audience coranda corley parent and disabilities advocate um if we're trying to postpone this to the july 14 meeting can
135we please have a um explanation and actually request certain information one of the things that i would like to request is that we actually get information regarding the population in which we're trying to attract the kind of work and where do we think that these kids are going to come from what programming are we trying to have because again it's stated focused choice um once before on board docs so if the information is going to be different than what has already been provided then we need to make sure that the public actually have access to that information as well because that is where we're having a lack of days in we're not being extremely transparent and i know every student every day counts and matter and when it comes to kennel worth we need to
136make sure that every student every day is going to be affected and impacted in a positive way and right now the way it is written they will be um they will be set up for a detriment and so i'm asking um everything be provided including what contractors we're having to go and go go into the building how much it's going to cost for us to bring that building up to par how much is it going to cost for us to bring that building into ada compliance where are we um going to house the children k through fifth separate from sixth through eighth because we have to make sure that there's protection will there be a s-r-o-s-o-o um sheriff city police etc there how much is this going to cost if this is not in outlined
137in the budget that we already have before us will we then have to make an addendum to that budget and how much extra would that cause those are the kind of questions that we need to be accented and we need to make sure that we're going to have provided to the public and actually make sure that it is brought forth before the board so that we can actually have a real true conversation because the conversations and the continued delays that we have is not feasible for the children and what matters every day is our children every single child thank you and i'ma take my minute for the next one any other comments from the audience seeing them back to the board mr baloo was that something different or no i just real quick i wanted
138clarification as far as the uh request from the administration uh it reads that it's for the grade configuration um and the backup does mention a possibility or what you envision but i want to make sure from counsel uh if we pass this it's only the great configuration as far as the program that would have to be approved by the board at a later time that's correct this item is for the consideration of grade configuration only okay based on the motion and the item affordable that's why i understood i just want to make sure thank you mr blue uh mr goday uh thank you um one of the things that concerns me is we continue kicking the can down the road uh we're late it only back up if you go look at our recent redistricting
139my district had grown by 20-something percent uh miss uh bernard's district had grown by i think eight or ten percent miss diason's district had grown by six or seven percent while some of the other districts had declined this is where our population is growing we're late on the tax plan because we could not get agreement to buy land it took a lot of effort to finally get agreement on what land to buy and it seems like we just keep kicking the can down the road and my constituents are getting very upset about not having schools to put their children in miss dyson's constituents are getting upset by not having schools to put children in miss bernard's constituents are getting very upset about not having schools to put constituents in i'm sure mr chapman even though
140he's got the new jefferson terrace he's got a lot of families that don't have schools to put their kids in but we keep wanting more and more information we keep wanting to kick the can down the road we keep wanting to have things about where all the students going to come from go look at saint aloysius they're expanding go look at saint jude they're expanding go look at saint george that's where the kids are going they're not coming to the public schools we'll have a place to put them woodlawn's greatly overcrowded so i asked my fellow board members at least allow us to have this discussion at the next meeting and reach this we just keep we're doing this parish this entire parish a great disservice by continuing to kick this can down the road
141some people don't like schools in the southern part of the parish i understand but these people are paying their taxes and they deserve a school too and they don't have any place to put their kids right now mayfair has a waiting list wildwood has a waiting list woodlawn middle is busting at the seams and all we talk about is where where are the kids going to come from they're out there we don't have a place to put them so i ask you to please allow us to at least have this discussion at the next meeting because i don't think this would pass tonight unfortunately but at least allow us to have the discussion at the next meeting so we can finally get along you know one year to plan a school isn't absorbing it if
142we get the school back next august we need to be planning what are we going to do with it and how we can go about doing it and yeah we don't have every dot i dot it and every t cross but you don't this is one of the first steps in dotting eyes and crossing tees and we need to move on so my constituents miss dyson constituents ms bernard's constituents mr tapman's i don't think it reaches all the way up to mr blue but we ask you to work with us for the people of our parish to to move this forward and be able to get some schools in our section of the parish thank you mr good egg um miss we're jackson thank you mr tatman if we're going to put something on the
143agenda that is around grade configuration and then put something in the back up that goes far beyond grade configuration well into the design the the composition of of programming um we need to get that right i agree that we definitely need schools and that's that part of the district we've talked about this for for years we've tried to get the board together to do a comprehensive plan we had a committee set up or a task force where miss dyson and i were placed on it and then not allowed to work on it and now we're in a situation where we've we're jumping just leaping forward making decisions before we can even have a a conversation around whether it needs to be a focused choice school or whatever it needs to be as if that's the
144only thing that we can think of and now we want to put it on an agenda where we we're going to make a decision well you know we're going to vote and it's going to be a focus choice i believe that we should have more information i do agree that we need the school what can we do to compromise can we put this on committee of the whole where we have more more information point of information could the motion be re-read because i think the motion is only a k-8 it has nothing to do with people's choice my point is that i think that that is i'm sorry so your point of information is that's correct that's what the motion is to move this item as it's written to a special meeting i'm sorry miss
145where jackson go ahead how about we in the future we mentioned this in the previous meeting and it came back to us the very same way with the very same back up there i've i expressed the same concern that i'm saying right now and it came back to us the exact same way so there's not you know there's a whole lot of clouds in the sky on this one you know uh or we've you know the the the motion the agenda item and the backup don't match and that's where the concern is and it seems like when we vote on this we're basically saying that it's going to be focused choice just like we had a we're reading in a newspaper that we're choosing focus choice in an area where over at capital you know
146we just kind of jump forward making these big announcements and the board and the community is not on board with this we all know that we need middle schools in that area i'm just asking that we just get it just get our stuff right when we put it on the agenda please so that we can stop confuse we will stop confusing people there's enough confusion in this district without us adding to it putting the wrong information in the back up or things that we assume is going to happen and then we say well when we're voting on this item we're actually voting this so forget it but don't read the backup we're supposed to read the backup we're supposed to pay attention to the backup the backup always complements it always explains what we're actually
147voting on i would hope that we could put this on the agenda whichever meeting is going to be with the right information with the backup supporting the item that's on the agenda thank you miss swear jackson ms dyson so the motion on the table is to uh move this to the special meeting which we have a unique opportunity right now because we have three weeks instead of two weeks and so it's just to move the item to the special meeting that is all we're asking is to just give additional time so that these kinds of things with the backup and all of that can be very clear to all of us and the community about what we're approving at the special meeting so let's everything else is off the table it's moving it to the
148special meeting is what is all we're voting for right now thank you thank you miss dias and the board is clear madam secretary please conduct the vote please vote the motion carries we move now to item f5 consideration of requests for the approval of the professional services contracts between east baton rouge power school board and the following a city year and the amount of 360 thousand dollars to provide support services strategic alignment student achievement b achieve three thousand inc in the amount of one million three hundred and ninety one thousand and ninety dollars to prove to provide professional development and student web-based activity strategic alignment student achievement c castle in the amount of fifty thousand dollars to provide support services strategic alignment student achievement and employee development d national institute for excellence in teaching in
149the amount of four hundred and fifty four thousand dollars to provide support and professional development on school improvement best practices strategic alignment student achievement e national institute for excellence in teaching in the amount of 120 000 dollars to provide support and professional development on school improvement best practices strategic alignment student achievement and f rethink in the amount of 175 000 to provide for social emotional learning and mental health support services strategic alignment student achievement do i have a motion moved by mr ballou is there a second anybody else want to second it mr goday okay the uh the board is clear for the moment uh we'll go to the audience on these professional services contracts any comments from the audience on f5 storm matthews um castle when it came up last year looked great everything
150looked wonderful until we found out it's the teachers that do all the teaching and we don't get any training on it so i didn't have to do it last year because it was through the social studies department so but this coming year it's going to be through the first class of the day um yeah no it's not very successful and that what the counselors do is but the train what the teachers are doing with the kids every day yeah no it just takes away from instruction time um which is limited now that you've cut half of our ela department and so we're already having to cut half of what we teach thanks um also with the chief 3000 um it's mandatory that we do three of those a week again cutting into what we have
151the time to teach it's good sometimes there's a free version of that called new zla where it does the exact same thing you pick the child's lexile level and it takes the the current event and it puts it on that child's lexile level and there's quizzes and things like that and guess what it's f r e e free it's wonderful been using it for years and you don't have to pay all that money for it achieve 3000 is across the board ela teachers hate it thank you i'm james finney i didn't catch what the motion was whether it's to ram these through tonight or have a special meeting or whatever but whatever it is if you approve these before you have a budget for each of the proposed funding sources you are committing malfeasance he
152would be absolutely irresponsible to vote yes if these funds are not budgeted yet so mr baloo miss collins mr tapman mr jackson mr goday please do not approve these contracts any of them until you have budgets that allow for paying the money thank you hi elizabeth alfonso oh parent um i'm going to say please don't pass these also uh the city year um gets mixed reviews um i did the research i just went online and looked the information is out there i didn't go to cityyear.org i did go and look up um people that people's experiences with it because every organization on here promotes their own they're going to give you positive reviews they're not going to say anything negative about themselves evidently the pay rate for city year is really poor um there's a
153huge uh 50 hours a week um and these are young people up to age 24 and one of the things that is mentioned that was mentioned multiple times from people that have reported their experience with it doing it part of their training is to tell them because they're not going to make any money they need to apply for food stamps multiple times i've read this a federal program that is telling their employees to apply for federal assistance um so that's city here chief 3000 um it's on eric the same website i mentioned earlier there's 55 entries about achieve 3000 on there if you want to go read them despite its promise to help teachers meet the needs of diverse learners district usage of achieve 3000 among most students with access to it remains far below
154the optimal level necessary for them to realize literacy growth and college and career readiness as ms matthews mentioned there are other options out there that are free that do the same thing this was the biggest budget item on there um it it's just not necessary as far as social emotional learning and those two different projects that are part of that teachers integrate social emotional learning in everything they do teachers teach time management as part of integrated within their curriculum they are teaching their children how to interact in a classroom together because everything has to be respectful there's nothing new there i i don't know if it became a buzzword but it's just not worth it when the money's needed a lot of other places thank you so i'm doing like they do in church service
155start announcing myself coming from the door name is coronda coyle of parent and disabilities advocate and i think that we should deny the contracts and let me tell you the reason plain and simple the budget our budget um every single portion of the budget say that you have portions that are saying that it's saving us like 4.5 only to go in the very next section they said that it's going to have an increase of spending that's going to be like 5.5 i'm just throwing that number out there as an example that's not the actual numbers but i can actually spit some of the actual numbers and i'm saying that we cannot look at those um look at these contracts right now until we actually do the budget and the reason why i'm stating that is
156because who's going to implement this i know that social emotional learning is very important but i know that we are also cutting guidance counselors that was reflective in the budget guidance counselors are being cut we're eliminating several positions child welfare and attendance those are individuals that also deal with social emotional learning as well as provide programming in fact social emotional uh the office one of the offices over there um that i wore the shirt for respectively they actually are located in child welfare and attendance that's being eliminated so when we talk about these federal contracts that we want to approve we have to first look at what our budget is stating our budget is stating that we're going to eliminate those people so who in fact who is going to actually implement these contracts and
157who's going to be the person that's going to actually make sure that parents like myself or any other parent of a child with a disability or a parent of a child with foster care or an adoptive parent or a grandparent that's raising their child or their grandchild or a child that's matriculating back into our school from juvenile justice who's going to make sure that they are learning the trump the trauma-informed best practices and the social emotional learning or any of the other programming that we're talking about nobody that's dancing nobody because they won't the positions won't exist here in our school system not according to the budget that we have on board doctor thank you miss evelyn jackson for your voice that you gave a few moments ago on that motion um because it was
158important it's important because we're not looking at the basics we have to create a real solid foundation first before we can say that we're just kicking stuff down i can't down the str kicking the can down the road because the can is being kicked down the road because we don't have a foundation we have to look at what the problem is and right now the problem is uh budget and elimination of of actual positions so yes no to the federal contracts because we don't have anybody that can implement them unless of course you're about to do a subcontract with me or mr gwen shamlin or david chapman our president thank you so much good evening members i've heard a lot about responsibility and i think we all know how the word the responsibility is defined
159and i know that our actions speak louder than words and i think tonight you guys have shown a good step in the right direction of restoring trust with our community i think we've you guys made them very responsible decisions tonight and i think and i pray that you guys will continue in that decision making by declining these contracts at this time it's irresponsible to appropriate money before a budget is complete we all know that as elected officials everyone has a responsibility of being stewards of taxpayers dollars be good stewards what a stewardship means you don't own it you're only managers of it be good managers that's uh that's all i have for tonight i won't do too much but be responsible did you identify yourself before you started speaking well i'm sorry jamie robbins i
160just wanted to make sure we got that on the record thank you mr you're welcome hello again i'm daniel lamford um in the uss paraprofessional at jefferson terrace academy for by the way it's for the severe and profound special needs students i agree with miss courtney i forget her last name the parent who spoke um on a lot of things but i disagree that with the whole concept of social emotional learning that this is akin to critical race theory which teaches that bear with me here um because this is gonna offend people but it's the truth um white people are the oppressors um black people are the oppressed and there's there's no way that um black people can move up in life which of course is totally false i totally disagree with it i'm not
161a racist i believe the people who came up with this are racist and and um i believe that anyone in america can can can move up and can accomplish anything that that that they want to and um this is uh policies like this are destructive they're divisive and they need to be stopped in our educational system so that we can move up and i believe that public schools should be places like free speech alley at lsu where people can express their opinions where teachers can investigate and teach the truth and not just something that's thrown out at them by government or in any other school system or or principal or any public entities anywhere thank you any other comments from the audience seeing none back to the board mr goday uh yeah several people have
162mentioned repeatedly about contracts before budget and i just want to make sure everyone understands that all of these contracts and all of our contracts generally contain the following word i'm reading from the achieve 3000 contract but all of them have has this furthermore the continuation of this contract is contingent upon the appropriations of funds by the east baton rouge parish school board if we fail to appropriate funds to provide the contract shall terminate so all of these are contingent if we don't provide the money in the budget we don't have a contract is that right mr general counsel i'm trying to make sure i read that correctly that's correct and so yes we do put these contracts in place because we need to have them in place but they become effective with the passage of
163the budget and the funding from the budget so the fact that we're passing these prior to the budget being completed is not really an issue am i reading that correctly i want to make sure i'm saying that correctly it's not really an issue if we defund this in the budget there is no contract and so i just wanted to make sure the public understood that that we were not being uh fast and free secondly people have made lots of different comments about different things how many years have we had city year in this district probably what 10 to 12 years so we have 10 to 12 years of experience with this where we have gotten what we feel is worthy service for our money out of these contracts so you know we're not doing these
164things on a whim as we go through this we're we're looking at these and and making you know we've raised and lord we've changed providers and did these sorts of things so please the public needs to have some understanding that that we are trying to be responsible in how we do these we're not making contracts that we can't budget and we're not redoing contracts with nefarious organizations that don't deserve have a contract with us that we don't have experience with so i just wanted to make those points so everyone would understand that thank you thank you mr goday and city year has been here since i've been here so that's 11 years 6 months and 16 days i'm sorry um but they've been here since i've been here um thank you miss dyson thank you
165um i wanted to just um speak a little bit to the g 3000 and just a lot of um a lot of uh discussion that i've been uh privy to and people that are teachers in the classroom are having uh it i don't believe it's all about just achieve 3000. what it what i've heard that they're struggling with is the inability to um take the the mandate that they take all this time out of their instruction time to allow for the time on achieve 3000 and then raise the um number per week to two from one of the mandated grades posted into a net and that it's just you can't they're having a hard time with taking out that number of minutes and then not even being able to count it as a participation grade
166or something and and they want to be able to hold the students accountable to that time spent and to make sure it's constructive time spent i've heard things like you know just pushing keys and um you know not caring about if you performed well on it or not because there was nothing associated with it that would be a great and so i think that's the only thing that i have a real sticking point on that is if we can make sure that we get some of that part of that other part corrected or i should maybe i wouldn't say corrected but um addressed then i think that the teachers can um be more on board with us as we move through this so that is my request thank you thank you mr sims where jackson
167thank you president tatman i didn't realize up so quick we have what let me see one two three four five did six items all in the same bunch uh and i know a lot of concern uh is still around the budget and esser and i know we made some adjustments with the budget and when we present it we will have a little more information around esser funding uh however i would like to separate these items i know sometimes we say bye for kate but bifurcate means to divide into two and we've got six but if we could separate these items so i'd like to make the motion that we vote on these separately is there a second to that motion so the motion on the floor is to separate the items we will now have
168discussion relative to separation of the items um dr narcisse uh you're up you can pass sure just wanna just highlight something you know we um i say this respectfully um we i understand the passion many people have about a lot of things and sometimes as i sit up here and i listen sometimes i hear a lot of miscommunication there are a whole lot of different things from different people i just want to go ahead and caution uh that every time we move certain things or do them later remember that school starts in august and uh you know sometimes people ask me just want to be honest they say to me don't do this because you know the politics as a superintendent i will continue to put the items for children first uh everything for children
169will always go online whether people feel it's political or not and um also i will always make sure that we do the best we can to not only put the children item first but also ensure that we're preparing and supporting the staff that work with children first people will critique me for that they can tell me i'm from wherever i'm from they can do whatever they feel like but folks children will always be first while i'm superintendent regardless of the responsibility people may feel we will not move this district forward if we continue these type of patterns but i feel as the superintendent of this district is important for me to tell folks children are first as we push items back and we go into whatever we decide to go into just remember that if
170certain things do not pass school starts in august we have tremendous amount of training that happens in the summer to prepare staff i also want to say this not all of this community feels like what you always hear when we are sitting here listening to the different uh comments here many parents and families would like to see us moving forward in this work to support children so i just feel like it was really important to say that because i don't think it's fair that we sometimes people just see what happens in the board meeting and they think that's the overall view of this parish it is not on these items here we have stuff here for children there's stuff for developing staff there's stuff to support social emotional learning for kids which we need supports
171from there's stuff on here for reading which we have to continue the literacy work there's many different things on here that we need to continue to move this work forward and so um i just felt it was important to say that because as i sit here every every board meeting or cow i try not to say a lot because my hope is that we can get through the some of the different sets of voices and then from there be able to move the work that we have to do for children children will always be first while i'm superintendent so i just wanted to share that because a lot of sometimes our discussions sometimes uh is the what the public hears which i don't believe everybody on this board believes is that they hear a lot
172of different folks with different opinions around their passion around whatever it is but on these contracts and things these are not new uh one of the things i promised staff was we tried to keep consistency because this district has changed programs so many times there's also been a lot of opinions about what programs they think they should get that sometimes we're not evidence-based we we can do much better if we can be able to move these things forward and get them ready before august we are currently in june so if we don't pass certain things they take about 60 days is that right uh is that correct and so i just want to continue just to tell us just be mindful about what we decide um that we should do or not and also for
173staff for all of our 3 200 teachers 6 000 employees who also wants consistency of quality in the school district uh to make sure kids are learning that we can be able to have some consistency with some of our programs and practices that's all i wanted to share prison thank you um so so right now the board is clear the item that we are going to take public comment on is the separation of all the items as individual agenda items that is the subject matter of this motion it's a substitute movement and we're going to the audience i'm sorry fade in a little bit i'm james finney i think separating these into individual items is appropriate the visitor from maryland would suggest putting children first is incompatible with competence transparency and democracy he is wrong
174it was important to get these contracts approved by acclamation in june he should have had a budget ready in may he didn't this is where we are and those of us that are fighting for a publicly controlled school system for the benefit of the public would like you to be very considerate of how the money is spent where it is spent and that you preserve democratic control thank you [Music] storm matthews i'll be very brief i think separating them is a very good idea because some of them are very good and do need to be approved though there's two that i hope you do not jamie robinson um let me be clear um because i thought i was pretty nice first i'm going to try to remain that way the second go around a couple
175of things that were said that that are subject to this um a i pray to god that you guys don't allow those words to manipulate you in your decision-making as you vote on this agenda item because i just left a conference for the american gas association in nashville tennessee was someone someone begging they said jamie please do everything your power to make sure you don't allow that man to do what he has done to us up here i don't care where you're from i don't care where you were born i care about what you do while you're here i care about our children and the majority of the community all of the community puts children first so when you say that you're that we're pushing this if we push this back it's going to affect
176how schools start in august i wholeheartedly agree with you but how irresponsible is it on the behalf of this administration to put it on the agenda for today we're talking about training teachers so they can be effective day one of school you think a fast pace training over the summer is enough to professionally develop teachers and staff we're we're we're going to find ways to make this work within the budget and we're not going to have deans to make sure that teachers are going to be able to do what they need to do in the class time doing described instructional hours i have schools in my community who cannot control their students their discipline they're having serious problems at home and they're not going to be able to talk to guidance counselors principals are not
177going to have the support that they need to push through these classrooms and get these children under control and develop their teachers further so that they can make so they can excuse me i would just hope that you guys be very very very careful in what you do here today and say no because it's the right thing to do and it's okay to still do the right thing [Music] all right i agree with you dr narcisse that the people are not always represented by every by the few people that you see up here however on this topic they are they've had a lot of community meetings in the past few weeks and you know what the community people are saying they are not bringing their children to the school system because we are dismantling it
178we're destroying it our school system once upon a time had plenty of resources that has been dismantled over time over time can't put it all on you but what i can put on you is that we had a we had a school a virtual school that did not have staff for a whole entire semester that left children with disabilities and regular ed kids without carnegie hours talk about the separation yes we and that's why i'm getting to the separation because we had a charter school we had a virtual school that could not provide a for a free appropriate public education for our children and as a result of that a lot of these contracts that we want to implement we're still not going to have the staff ms dyson always asks if we're going to
179have the staff for the first day of school we're not because we're not attractive to employees we have created a hostile environment that does not allow our staff the opportunity to express themselves and actually say the truth the truth of the matter is we failed we the board we failed social emotional learning i know plenty of parents including myself that could benefit from social emotional learning in fact we even had laws that passed that actually help with social emotional learning and trauma informed best practices including adverse childhood experiences and guess what you have yet to implement that in our school system so when we talk about we're going to constantly pass federal contracts we have to continue to pass these federal contracts but there's nothing that the people in east baton rouge parish is seeing
180east baton rouge parish school system do with the contracts that we have passed so what why am i saying it i'm saying yes i wholeheartedly agree with what ms evelyn where jackson motion is to separate the items because some of these items need to be cut because they have not done anything as it relates to children and some of them have been discriminating against our children and you know that since you've been here when are we going to make every student every day matter they are a priority and and if until that we cannot say yes to everything some things we're gonna have to say no and and right now this is one of them thank you any other comments from the audience i think it is smart too elizabeth alfonso um maybe our parent
181i think it is smart to sit with items um and thank you for sharing that uh to the year has been here for is it 11 years um uh i looked around i looked for this information because i didn't know these programs i was researching it so that i could come in and give you my public opinion as part of the public i couldn't find how city year was part of ebr i couldn't find what they did here i can find the information on city year's website for what they do for public schools but i couldn't find that information for us how many people worked here for this community what they did um i couldn't find the details so if if these items are being presented to you and i'm not sure if we're supposed
182to be able to actually see all this information about them too but if they're being presented and we've had them for a really long time or they're new shouldn't that information be really available and really obvious and whether or not these items were successful i mean you need that information to vote on whether or not you want to promote it i would think that you you need that background to make a decision i needed it i still don't know where to find it that's all thank you any other comments from the audience back to the board we are on the substitute motion to separate the items of f5 into individual agenda items the board is clear madam secretary please conduct the vote please vote the motion fails we are now back on the primary emotion
183to request the which is to approve the professional services contracts the board is clear we have already gone to the audience on the base motion the the primary motion madam secretary miss ware jackson [Music] perhaps we should move this to another meeting do you have a motion to swear judge yes our move that we if we're not going to separate this because uh the whole thing up i can't i can't vote for this whole package to pass i swear jackson to move it to which meeting the um when is our next meeting uh the we we're gonna have a couple of special meetings on the 14th before the committee of the whole on the 14th those would be the three well right now there's i think i'm envisioning three budget budget and then special meeting
184and then committee vote but it don't hold me to that because i got to work with my lawyer so we have a regular meeting the next regular meeting the board is july 21st correct and we have two special meetings one set for several items from this meeting already and then one for the budget adoption and that's on july 14th and we have a hearing uh public hearing so that's four after the budget the car would be included in before yeah after the budget meeting which one is after the budget meeting we will have a budget hearing we'll open up with a budget hearing and then we will have a special meeting that's a separate hearing required by law then we will have a special meeting on the budget and then when that meeting is over
185we're going to have a special meeting that is going to uh include i guess any items because we seem to be sending a bunch of them there uh and then that that agenda's not filled out yet and then um we'll have the committee of the whole and who knows who might have known me i suggest we move this to the special meeting where we have other agenda okay is there a second to miss where jackson's emotion the board is clear at the moment we take public comment on the substitute motion to move it to the special meeting on july the 14th meeting number three thank you i'm james finney i would uh think it would be much better to consider this on july 14th particularly if unlike tonight the budget discussion on july 14th actually
186happens and perhaps by july july 14th there will be more backup information and to mr goday's point from earlier where contracts first then budget later i've seen the budget process work you're only going going to allow a short time for each member of the public to speak about 600 pages worth of budget items and besides if some of these are funded with esser those are three page budget descriptions so you see a line item it's not clear where the contracts are going to fall within those budgets so first budget the money and then have fiscal notes about how much of that money you spend and that way you can have an idea of how much the gentleman from maryland has departed from the outline you've given him in the budget because he appears to have
187the ability or the confidence that he can spend money however he want without any oversight thank you pretend again this is daniel lamford i would ask that you um assuming the social emotional learning is included in this uh these this federal section i would ask that you completely remove that somehow there's that you vote against that not only does it include the critical race theory which i already addressed but also the um sexual orientation and gender identity it's common sense and it's been proven scientifically but there are only two genders male 1 female [Music] and normally people who are transgender overcome that over time and if her gender is affirmed and many of those people have suffered because they they've been treated by their parents or or by others and society has a different gender
188than the way god created them so um yes we need to understand people we need to be loving i understand all that but we also need to operate in truth and we need to present children and present everyone with the facts and uh we need to mainly we need to focus on educating our kids and reading writing and arithmetic preferably religion as well but certainly reading writing and arithmetic should be our main and the other subject should be our main focus not all this social emotional learning or critical race all that foolishness thank you any other comments from the audience coranta corley parent and disabilities advocate um first and foremost um the vote did not show on the screen so that we can see how the board members voted um so hopefully we can get
189a roll call vote so that we can actually see how the board members voted on the last motion um number two how many items are we putting on the july 14th we won't know until this meeting's over i'm sorry okay marie claire knows last few seconds thank you mr three seconds okay thank you mr tammy um we hopefully we really don't want to be here all night on that night because i know it's not fair to the board members and it's definitely not fair to the public as well i do have a recommendation though that we actually just come prepared by providing food [Music] and something to drink but everyone here so that we can actually be prepared for the meeting um but as it relates to this um actual item i do think that
190some of the contracts are acceptable i just don't agree with all because every contract is not servicing every student every day and and i appreciate miss ware jackson for actually wanting those items separated because if you look at a lot of those items some of them are only touching certain schools every school is not touched with all those contracts so i think that the board i would greatly appreciate if our board could actually request that information a list of what where those contracts what schools they will actually be servicing because they're not servicing all of our schools and that's what's important because our motto says every student every day also let's look at what classification is it sir is it only servicing our students with disabilities which is not none of them do um but
191is it servicing the regular gifted gray scholars a grace a scholastic magnet a regular head um foster care um adopted etc we do need to look at that because like i said all our children are not being serviced by these contracts and so i'm gonna save my 38 seconds for the next item thank you seeing no other comments on the motion to move this item to the special meeting on july 14th the board is clear madame secretary please conduct the vote please vote the motion fails we're now back on the main motion primary motion to approve the professional services contracts the board is clear madam secretary please conduct the vote please vote the motion fails we move now to item f6 consideration requests for the approval of the pathways to bright futures expenditures do i
192have a motion moved by mr baloo here we have a second going once and twice gone we move now to item g1 consent agenda miss diason excuse me i'm sorry i'll make a clarification there's no public comment when we we took public comment on the item the item failed and so on the other item there was never a motion to take public comment so we don't take public comment that's yeah usually our comment and then the audience's comments are based on whatever that motion is is that okay i want to make sure nobody thought i was trying to keep people from speaking so miss tyson i'm sorry the following night i'm talking i'm sorry we don't have a quorum we have to wait for someone to return i'm sorry i interrupted you twice following the
193four members ms dyson you're back on thank you consent consent vote the following items are to be approved as part of the consent agenda and are considered to be routine and will be enacted with one motion there will be no separate discussion of items unless a board member so requests in which event the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered as an item on the regular agenda for a separate vote preceding the last item on the regular agenda updated revised job descriptions consideration of a request for the approval of the following updated revised job descriptions a accounting specialist b army military property specialist c budget specialist 2 d ess data specialist e leap specialist f operations specialist g systems analyst h network specialist i marketing and media specialist jay eye care prevention
194specialists k budget specialists l grant specialist m coordinator of retention and employee accountability in career and technical education program coordinator oh work-based learning coordinator p supervisor of employee benefits q coordinator of homeless our human resources supervisor s supervisor of payroll t supervisor of health programs and of athletics you director of risk management the administrative director of federal programs w director of fine arts x administrative director of transportation y director of procurement procurement and warehouse services z cnp manager aa cnp assistant manager a b finance specialist 3 retirement ac benefits specialist 1 a.d payroll specialist 2 ae finance specialist 3 grants af student data registration specialist ag finance specialist payroll benefits ah electrical technician a.i executive director of early childhood programs aj human resources specialist ak school-wide program monitor a.l director of assessment and accountability am
195cnp assistant director a n director of human resources ao cnp assistant cook ap cnp cook aq cnp regional supervisor ar cnp data specialist as cnp warehouse supervisor at cnp computer specialists au esl instructional specialist av truancy officer strategic alignment operational excellence eliminated job descriptions consideration of a request for the approval to eliminate the following obsolete job descriptions a assistant to the administrative director of facilities b assistant to the director of transportation c chief officer of student support services d ess hotline specialist e adolescent literacy coordinator strategic alignment operational excellence grant teacher project consideration request for the approval of neighbors federal credit union project grant in the amount of 21 477.29 to provide funding for six teacher projects strategic alignment student achievement grant louisiana department of education considerational request for the approval of the lead agency
196grant in the amount of 358 050 to assist with coordinated enrollment and support services for child care centers charter schools private schools head start and early head start strategic alignment student achievement professional services contract seamless consideration requests for the approval of a professional services contract between the east baton rouge bear school board and seamless in the amount of twelve thousand four hundred and fifty five dollars to provide a digital work based experience platform to document student work-based experience and coordinate business partnerships strategic alignment student achievement 2022-2023 property and casualty insurance program policies consideration of a request to authorize the administration to approve the most cost effective property and casualty insurance program policy renewal package for the east baton rouge parish school system for the 2022-2023 fiscal year and to provide for related matters with the
197directive to staff to issue at force staff to issue an rfp for 2023-2024 resolution reject uninsured motorist coverage consideration of a request for the approval of the resolution authorizing the board president and the superintendent to execute and sign all documents to reject uninsured motorist coverage in connection with the east baton rouge paris school system's automobile liability coverage and its self-insured retention program for the 2022-2023 fiscal year advertising in official journal fiscal year 2022-2023 consideration of a request for the approval to select the advocate as the official journal newspaper advertising of the east baton rouge parish school system for fiscal year 2022-2023 advertising of bids for fiscal year 2022-2023 consideration of a request to super to authorize staff to advertise receive and award bids for materials equipment supplies and services through june 30th 2023 to the
198lowest responsible bidder proposer meeting meeting specifications and all state and federal requirements for quotes and formal invitations to bid real program part-time teacher rate increase consideration request to amend the real time salary schedule to approve a 40 increase in compensation for the real program part-time employees strategic alignment student achievement funding source real time early access to literacy real grant memorandum of understanding mou consideration of a request for the approval of the mou between the east boundaries fair school board and southern university at new orleans to provide milly charles school of social work students an opportunity for practical experiences in the area of social work strategic alignment student achievement professional services contract lsu and agriculture and mechanical college consideration of a request for the approval of a professional service contract between the east boundary square school
199board and lsu and agricultural and mechanical college in the amount of 123 891 dollars to provide staff and program support for the eva la guard learning center strategic alignment student achievement funding source general fund magnet semi-annual financial tax plan update consideration request for approval of the actual december 21st semi-annual financial tax plan update and the 2021-2022 revised budgets for propositions one two and three strategic alignment operational excellence memorandum of understanding mou pre-k expansion consideration of a request for the approval of the mou template for child care centers charter schools and private schools in the ebr community network for the expansion of pre-k 3 and pre-k 4 student seats strategic alignment student achievement funding source la4 nsecd sr2 b3 stipend consideration of a request for the approval of the amendment of the board approved stipend to
200include all employees that utilized approved family medical leave act leave for the 2021 2022 school year and that ends and i still move um consent agenda move by miss diaz and do i have a second mr blue i see no comments yet yeah i'm sorry um who would you like to pull 2 13 and 15. anybody else want to pull an item 14 i'd like to uh just just to give a little cloudy on 16. is your you're in the queue for that yeah okay thank you um okay so we're now on the consent agenda yeah we pulled 2 15 and 16. so we take public comment on the remaining consent agenda items anybody like to make comments on the remaining consent agenda items thank you i'm james finney i'm grateful those five items were
201pulled with respect to number five 358 thousand dollars to manage and plan pre-k i would hope that in this next year we'd figure out how to have three and four-year-old services available at every neighborhood school for the families that want that and furthermore i would hope that very soon you would establish as a board a policy that you will quit being the conduits for subsidizing charter schools that are destroying public education and i will have more to say about that when you get to item number 15. thank you for your time corondecoit parent disabilities advocate number two number three number eight number 13 number 14 and number 16 is the numbers that i would extend the board pull and um i i can tell you the reasoning number 13 has um built in some uh
202we're not on 13 yet we've pulled out you pull it down thank jesus heavenly father okay so some of these um contracts number eight you didn't pull number eight we actually should put and we should pull because have you been driving around our city to see how people drive people drive horrible nowadays so you need uninsured motorists so we should never get rid of uninsured motorist coverage um because you do have to think about that we're the uninsured motorists that our school system have actually cover the staff such as our superintendent and cabinet members that are using their personal vehicles they're on the insurance so they are covered so if they don't have uh uninsured motors if they're going on something dealing that's educational related that falls on us a legal liability just want you
203to think about that um in addition to that we also have to think about you know is this on rejecting the uninsured motorist coverage is that going to be on the buses the school buses that we have and what about the parents of children with disabilities that actually transport their children that have a contract with our school system because it's written in iep so i'm just asking that we look at that um as one that we may want to go ahead and pull um the stipend i don't know if y'all pulled that one which is number 16. i really hope and pray that y'all would consider pulling that one and actually just flat out passing it because we should never discriminate against people that are um covered federally by being on fmla um or maternity
204leave maternity leave is covered by american disabilities thank you so much and last but not least number 14 semi-annual financial tax plan update i think we actually really need to look at that um so that we can actually have much more conversation about it i'll save those 50 seconds for the next one thank you i'm daniel lamford ess paraprofessional at jefferson terrace academy i would like more understanding about the item 15 the pre-k expansion that's uh to include younger ages like three and four-year-olds mr lampert that one's pulled so we'll discuss that one individually i got you um yeah i guess um that's all i got thank you the other comments from the audience on the consent agenda seeing none back to the board madam secretary please conduct the vote please vote motion carries thank
205you we move now to item g2 consideration of a request for the approval of the following updated revised job descriptions a accounting specialist be military property specialist c budget specialist 2 d e s s data specialist e leap specialist f operation specialist g stems systems analysis systems analysts h network specialists eye marketing and media specialist ji care prevention specialist k budget specialist l grant specialist m coordinator of retention and employee accountability and career and technical education program coordinator oh work based learning coordinator p supervisor of employee benefits q coordinator of homeless r human resource supervisor s supervisor of payroll t supervisor of health programs and athletics you direct liberals management the administrative director of federal programs w director of fine arts ex administrative director of transportation y director of procurement and warehouse services zcnp manager
206aacnp assistant manager a b finance specialist three retirement ac benefits specialist one ad payroll specialist two a e finance specialist three grants a f student data registration specialist a g finance specialist payroll benefits a h electrical technician ai executive director of early childhood programs aj human resource specialist ak school-wide program monitor al director of assessment accountability am cnp assistant director a.n director of human resources aocnp assistant cook a a that was a ao cnp assistant cook ap cnp cook a q cnp regional supervisor ar cnp data specialist a scnp warehouse supervisor a tcnp computer specialist a u esl instructional specialist a v truancy officer strategic alignment operational excellence do i have a motion moved by mr blue do i have a second seconded by ms ware jackson seeing the board is no questions or comments
207at the moment we go to the audience and he comments from the audience on item g2 thank you james finney i don't know how they do it in maryland but in every class i've taught or taken if you don't have the work done you don't get to advance to the next grade these job descriptions are not complete they should not be approved unless there is some notion of who these folks would report to and the range at which they will be paid so again mr ballou miss collins mr tavman miss tyson miss ward jackson please vote no at the very least if it is the intent to clean up job descriptions perhaps if you put these on the committee of the whole not the special meeting on july 14th perhaps there is a chance that
208even this administration could over the course of those several weeks actually put together enough of a package that you were convinced at least a week or two ago i think this was like a 500 page attachment with a whole bunch of job descriptions only some of whom you were asked to approve i was abusive to the public so make a point if this is all about the children then let's worry about children not about appeasing the visitor from maryland vote no insists that he and the people that work for him do their jobs thank you jamie robinson good evening again i am i stand up before you today receiving many calls and text messages from fair school leaders who are afraid to speak out due to intimidation tactics opposed to them by this administration and
209various threats that i'm sure that you guys have heard of and that i do believe to be very true um because these principals and assistant principals and deans and counselors have never lied to us before they've always stood up for our children they've always been present in our communities and i believe that they're doing so today when they tell the truth i ask that you vote against this don't allow this to pass this is something that has been beneficial to our district having strong individuals in schools in place knowing their clear job titles knowing that they're there to help students through their discipline problems only that that they're there to talk to students about what's going on so they can be successful academically and socially this is not a black thing this isn't a white
210thing this is about a children's thing let's make sure that all children are protected today let's make sure that all children are represented let's make sure that every child that goes to any school in this parish feels loved and protected and secure and safe and they will not feel secure if the faces that they were once accustomed to seeing is not there as the people who once had a responsibility is not there so take that in consideration today thank you and i'm daniel lamford and i i would like to speak to the updated and revised job descriptions [Music] just want to make sure there's a clear definition of each of these and i was confused by the homeless one if that's to help children in the homeless community or what what that's all about but
211um yeah that there's a clear description of each of these and that people know what they're doing and in their job description and of course like he's my brother earlier said it's jamie robinson that we don't eliminate jobs that are that are important but of course that everyone is paid fairly according to their position thank you and disabilities advocate so on updated revised um job descriptions um i would like to talk about a job description that we had that was new we had a job description called parent liaisons that we actually are eliminating now for the upcoming school year the parent liaisons we had approximately 53 parent liaisons but they did not know what their role and responsibilities were that is the reason why i am talking about that because it's a problem when we
212come up with job descriptions that we revised or that we updated because that was one of them that we previously did and now we're not going to have them this upcoming school year the reason for the parent liaisons was to help parents in any capacity but we never told the families or the school system how they were going to help them how anybody can reach them contact them what exactly they would be able to do etcetera and the reason why i'm saying that is because in this title it say job descriptions and that's important because job descriptions include your roles responsibilities your salaries what population or demographic you would serve um what budget source would be your um fun what funding source would be paying your salary etc and that is something that has been
213excluded excluded and because of that i cannot um in good faith ask this board to approve something that is so uncomplete because the parent liaisons could not help any parent that i met in our school system our children with disabilities that have individualized education plans represent more than 10 percent of our school systems population that is not including children that are gifted and talented or 504 plans so when i say that i say that meaning that that 10 percent also has a lot of money that comes towards our budget and for them to not have staff that know what their role and responsibility is is a problem and it's a federal offense so i think that we should not approve this until we can actually have more information if y'all choose to request more information
214thank you so much and i'ma keep those 26 seconds for the next one pastor montreal henderson to president chapman dr don shanae collins miss tyson and members of the board dr narcisse we have had several superintendents who come and have been in and out of baton rouge the job descriptions stayed the same and i want to read you something real quick i've seen the last couple of board meetings a lot of political gangsmanship attacking the pastors attacking the community leaders for proverbs 20 8 3 says a poor man that oppressed the poor it's like a sweeping rain which leaving no food we don't have a visitor from maryland we have a superintendent that was elected by this board you may not agree you may disagree with him but he is the superintendent and he should
215be respected as such and at some point we as a community must stop the character attacks towards the board members and towards the superintendents and board members who uphold this type of behavior you're giving the green light to these individuals that this stuff is okay and it's not okay you have employees in this district that are asking for a fair shot and every job description like it has a teacher in there and there was a teacher i don't know if this lady is still living by the name of angela reams who taught me how to read and i have nothing but respect for teachers but you have employees that are financially struggling every paycheck sleeping in their vehicles not able to provide for themselves and finally we have a superintendent that's trying to put forth
216an effort and then there's a problem we as a public may not agree on everything but our last superintendent we knew he worked four days a week because we never saw him on fridays we had associate superintendents here who played games who had the same opportunities dr narcisse had is having now to change job scriptures and they did nothing so when you vote no against this you're telling the support workers that it's okay that they can continue to struggle dr darcy says i applaud you for what you're doing i support you 100 and i support your team for trying to do the right thing in this community thank you mr montreal any other comments from the audience on item g2 seeing them we come back to the board i see no um i swear jackson
217i'd like the superintendent to comment on these uh job descriptions um the revised and the necessity of the uh revisions just so that people can understand and and you know whether these are new positions or [Music] would you comment please uh yes board member jackson these are actually updated and revised job descriptions uh that need to happen uh they impact also how uh pay actually happens um if i can get uh miss hall can you please come up um as as you know there's been many job descriptions in the um that's you know this predated me that we've been trying to clean up um they have been ignored quite frankly um and i'm doing as the board share that we you know trying to fix some of these challenges each job description depending on how
218it's written comes with a particular salary and those things and so this was based on the um compensation study that we did the reason we brought an uh external group to come in to give us recommendations was to fix the fix these challenges and clean up quite frankly um miss hall is anything you want to add yeah sure this came a long way so we're here now and um if you work in hr and i know it's just a understanding of the hr practices so coming on board the first day on i already understand and see some deficiencies i get complaints from leaders that it's hard to manage staff because they're stuck on their job descriptions and when i look at the job descriptions and compared to what they're doing employees are doing now it
219doesn't match up right we also had folks complain about salary the salary that they're being paid from 1950 way before i was born compared to now it's not marketable it's not competitive right we have individuals truck drivers making twenty thousand dollars for thirty years but the job description matches a twenty thousand dollar salary because it matches what's marketable now how do you manage that how do i right size that how do i listen to the all the concerns and fix that how do i assess that without an understanding that this has to happen and it's an ongoing process and i try to be as transparent as possible and this is where the ssa consultant came in to help us with that understanding and to manage that process along the way so these are amended job
220descriptions that are currently on the books that folks are in and i'm trying to get us to an optimum level in terms of efficiency and holding folks accountable and also from a salary standpoint because it do breaks my heart to have folks that are not making enough money and this type of just job description does not align with what they've been doing for 30 years so that's kind of what it is in a nutshell okay thank you i just want to to uh i wanted you to express the importance of doing this and and why yeah it is it's a lot and and only if you live in my shoe or come hang out with me and my team for a while there's like literally 12 000 job descriptions within the system um 5 000
221maybe hard copies and when we do get the new software system it's important whatever we put in is what we get out and this is a huge undertaking and this work is not done yet because we still have to go back i still have to go back with my team and look at every individual and see which job descriptions they're aligned with and that's going to take a few months so i understand this is a lot but this is important and how does this affect people if this motion fails i'm just going to continuously going at it in terms of a discipline and salary there are individuals who are working that should be making more money but because of the salary scale that they're on based on the job description i cannot do anything about
222that because i do not do grades i do black and white i try not to get into a space where i have to come and try to defend a decision so this will help us to get us to the next level in addition to in terms of market marketing right we want to be able to hire the best how can we do that with antiquated system and antiquated job descriptions like a steno clerk how is that functioning how do we use that how can i hold the person accountable for work and it's associated with ceno the machine that's not even around way before i was born once again i keep have to re reference to the past but we're here now i know it's a lot and i try to be as transparent as possible
223and forthcoming as possible but this is really important thank you man you're welcome thank you miss ware jackson vice president collins you mentioned bus drivers on 20 000 also where here in the updated and revised job description uh the list of positions has it been our bus drivers retitled here no so what we did if you looked at the um the google doc we showed excuse me we showed the rationale so if it's an education aspect in particular the bus drivers are are they included in this uh no i don't think so okay all right the person the the position that was referring to i just want to make sure i think uh vice president wants to refer to what's actually written okay so whatever position oh i'm sorry yes thank you so the position
224that was referring to is some child nutrition that's the position that was referring to a truck driver oh okay yes to be clear okay thank you you're watching um now um how does this uh i don't see salary amounts i had this so based on the um the audit that ssa did they gave us a spreadsheet that broke down comparison from each each of the job titles that are here we share the job descriptions and they used that as a benchmark and the information that came back very alarming and they share some of those findings at the last i think it was like how many i think it was for these individual positions if part of the goal is to right size then where's that information that would be a part of the salary schedule
225is there a reference here to where they will line up with the salary schedule no not not on hand okay thank you and i could get that to you though thank you miss collins the board is clear madam secretary please conduct the vote please vote the motion fails i would like to ask the board if no one objects to take item h1 the hes contract it's a word if you want to speak to it um yes i i requested the board president um asked the board to consider that that that contract is critical uh needs to be passed for july 1. and i want to be sure we keep a quorum and consider it before we any member can object but if there's no objection i'd like to go to item h1 any objection seeing
226none um we'll go to item h1 consideration of a request for the approval of a contract between east baton rouge power school board and he s facilities management llc is there a motion moved by miss dyson is there a second on miss ware jackson uh would you just hit it a little please yes um as you recall the superintendent and staff and council were authorized by this board to um to conduct a negotiation contract of copper contract with hes who's approved as a facilities management company for the district and so i worked diligently with ms scott spaulding and other staff to make sure that we could bring a contract to the board ahead of july one as you know our fiscal year begins july 1 and so we need to have a custodial project a
227custodial services management company in place for that date um and so the contract before you provides a number of uh specifications um i won't go through the contract in detail um but i'll hit the high points and some of the things that may be of interest to the board um it does require hs to maintain a minimum 50 participation by minority and women owned businesses as part of in compliance with our policy and also with the rfp that we issued um in our plans going forward um it has it includes a community action plan that hes will fund up to the amount of fifty thousand dollars which will support community activities and related um initiatives um the annual contract amount itself is twenty million four hundred and forty eight thousand dollars um additionally um we
228have adjustments in the contract um where we will be able to audit actual square footage um uh to consider an adjusted contract amount in the future um and their financial commitments from ats towards annual facility improvements in the amount of a hundred thousand dollars annually the term of the contract is for five years the exhibits include custodial scope of services ground schedule detailed operations and maintenance materials management and also uh subtotals from square footage and total square footage and i invite miss uh uh monique to come up miss monique's got spaulding if she'd like to add anything to come up after any questions from the board i don't see any questions at the moment um but um so if you right now we don't have any but uh we'll go to the audience on item
229h1 any comments from the audience on h1 james finney first you had an agenda i think you should stick to it i think there are people that have been here waiting for a long time wanting to speak to the things that you just pushed aside until later and i don't know that that's proper furthermore on this item in particular this board became visible to you all or at least to the public um sometime around 30 hours ago give or take wednesday evening at around 4 49 4 i'm sorry 4 29. um i assume you have all read every word right i didn't have time i printed out some stuff looked at the list of schools noticed they were cleaning the charter school apparently that was a little bizarre i would suggest that if you're going
230to spend 20 million dollars a year having somebody other than public employees cleaning the schools maybe it would be worth you coming back and having a quick meeting later in june for that i realize probably five of you will feel arm twisted into voting for a contract you haven't read but the failure of the administration to get stuff done with plenty of time does not necessarily constitute an emergency on your part do not feel bullied into voting no if you're not confident this is a good contract and with all due respect i've seen some of the contracts that have come from the school system and i would certainly not if i were in your shoes be ready to vote yes for something i haven't read and i'm confident that one or more of you have
231not had a chance to read this yet thank you for your time seeing no other comments from the audience we come back to the board ms dyson just real quick um i would just like my my colleagues to be mindful that we have already uh seen um the current vendor um removing um reports to me are that the equipment their equipment is already being moved out of our buildings for cleaning that is supposed to go through june and so i this is critical as far as moving this transition and getting started on day one july 1st so this is not something we can put off thank you thank you miss diason i see no other questions or comments from the board madam secretary will you please conduct the vote please vote the motion carries yeah
232okay um i do too so we're going to need a minute because we have to go to the bathroom yeah but from the policy you can suspend the meeting or temporarily i'll just yeah uh a couple of minutes it's just enough time to go use the restroom i do before i go want to comment and thank you for your work on this i know you and i spent a lot of time on it pouring through that contract it was a bear and i just want to thank you and and spalding and everybody who worked on it because it's a bear so so thank you and i'm i'll be back as soon as i can mr all right we're back in session sorry about that uh nature break um thank you all for indulging me um
233we now move to item d three consideration of a request for the approval to eliminate the following obsolete job descriptions assistant to the administrative director of facilities assistant to the director of transportation chief officer of student support services d i'm sorry let me do it again a assistant to the administrative director of facilities b assistant to the director of transportation c chief officer of student support services d e s s hotline specialists e adolescent literacy coordinator strategic alignment operational excellence do i have a motion moved by mr blue is there a second to that motion miss where jackson yeah i'm sorry g3 i see no comments or questions from oh i'm sorry go ahead miss collins vice president collins i would just like to mention that i would prefer to see if the concern is
234obviously job descriptions and we got thousands just chilling out there um what i imagine and i'm no expert and it's not a question so you don't have to worry about responding what i imagine is that over time new positions created just not needed us just looking at five it might be easier to jump at the elephant of all those positions if we just uh say that something like eliminate all positions that have not been in use in five years or more there's probably 90 of the positions that's in the system that's just chilling out there uh i just hate to deal with fire positions and then we still have you know there's not even a drop in the ocean so i'm just sharing that thought and uh if that you know if you do a
235quick review and see if something like that makes sense i look forward to something like that coming okay thank you miss collins the board is clear for now um we go to the audience on item g3 thank you james finney i concur with my representative vice president collins if there really are 5 000 job descriptions then i'm not sure why you're being insulted with a request to only eliminate five especially since i think two of them aren't really being eliminated they're being replaced somewhere else so i would hope that very soon the visitor from maryland would have his staff put together a comprehensive list of either the job descriptions that will continue to exist and a statement that all others are now obsolete and not usable or as you suggested just have them automatically expire
236after five years of non-use um i don't expect that'll happen and in fact this is as useful a time to talk about public records requests as any other at least twice since you hired the gentleman from maryland i have made record requests asking for a complete list not the whole assembly of record requests just a list of those job descriptions that exist apparently the contractor was able to get those and i'm still waiting on those lists from either of those two requests so thank you this is daniel lamport and i agree with uh miss collins and mr finney that for a lot of a lot of way to solve these problems again i'm no expert is a sim simplification it's just an ocean it's a lot of job descriptions in this case to deal with
237a lot of times a lot of these items i feel like we need to we need to simplify maybe think and pray about what what we should even consider to be brought up because because there's just so much we could do but um good is the enemy of the best and uh i think if we we simplified um things that that would solve a lot of our problems i think it's gonna it would take a very long time to and i'm sure miss nicola hall is having a time trying to figure out which positions to eliminate and which ones to to keep but i guess let's try not to create this problem again in this number areas and yeah just simplify that's the main point there you have the comments from the audience jamie robinson
238as i've heard a lot about tonight about where we are right now the state of the parish instead of the school system the state of the relationship between the community and the school system but when you be honest with yourself and you think about where we are we're here and the community is divided we have some here some there and it's because [Music] no one truly knows what's going on here and there is a bit of doubt even amongst your school board members but there's it's obvious with all the questions that that you have to ask in these meetings and then then be expected to vote after not being properly informed the reality is we don't i don't i don't i don't care where you're from i don't care who you bring in here to
239hire what i don't like is you give us a bunch of stuff and you have your staff come up here and what the hr director said it made sense and it sounded well however when you when you put a little bit of good and a little bit of bad together you say well we'll vote on this and we'll pass it just so we can fix this that that goes against what you're saying you're trying to do you say you're trying to fix something heal it and you can't heal it by putting a band-aid over it and that's it and i think that's what i think that's what's cool your school board members have done tonight you you you voted you voted properly and when i say properly i mean responsibly what is responsibility we let's
240vote for what we know is right let's vote for what we know is going on and the fact of the matter is we don't know so if you want to see a difference you want to see a change be truly transparent don't be transparent when we ask questions tell us beforehand when we got up here and we talked about the contract and we talked about the budgeted mr goldie he had specific knowledge on the contract was able to say what was on the contract to rebuttal what we said we didn't know that but imagine how much time we can save imagine how many how how well we would work together and we were all informed as we everyone effectively communicated with one another and these scare tactics were rid of that people could actually speak
241without being in fear of losing that job because i want you to know it's not only the people in those schools but i bet you have some people at those tables back there who's get to talk any other comments from the audience coronder coyly parent and disabilities advocate um i think it's um imperative that we have all of the job descriptions that are being eliminated and the reason i'm saying that is apparently a zones is one of them we have many job descriptions that are being eliminated that are not um actually listed it's not listed parent liaisons was a position that came last year last year um it was proposed that we create uh i think it was 22 job descriptions and although we created those 22 job descriptions they had job descriptions that were
242created that were not on the list and just like tonight there's jobs to be eliminated that are not on the list um i know being respectful of some of the employees we actually have employees that receive received letters saying that their positions were eliminated and that that title no longer exists in our school system those titles are not on this list of eliminated job descriptions so when we have a an item such as this one that says that we're going to address eliminated job descriptions we need to have all of the job descriptions that are being eliminated even if that's in the senior cabinet or as people that are in supervisory positions those are positions too those are positions too that are funded by our school system right now it is not right and it
243is causing a major divide um in our parish because individuals were told that parent liaisons positions were coming back this year and that is not true they were eliminated as of the last day of school we would not have parent liaisons back and that was 53 positions but it's not reflected so i ask that when we talk about these eliminated job descriptions that we actually get a real true list because what we have right now is not the accurate list just like our organizational chart that's not the accurate organizational chart because it shows our chief academic officer equivalent on the same playing field as all of the other chiefs and that is not true legally legally he is equal to our superintendent and all the other chiefs follow up under him so i just wanted
244to leave that with y'all for y'all to consider thank you so much any other comments from the audience seeing none back to the board vice president collins i didn't want to lift up with sister coyla just mentioned because i have laid my eyes on the email that was sent to parent liaisons and it did in fact say that the position was eliminated which regardless of whether or not this motion passes or fails would just be inaccurate because the board never voted to eliminate and the board is the only one with the authority to eliminate a position things like that is what caused me to have concerns generally speaking and since she mentioned it i just thought i would lift up um that issue and i hope that that issue gets looked at i don't know
245if there's something i need to uh uh bring to the attention a general console i would have you uh to determine if uh anything needs to be corrected but i do find that to be a serious concern thank you thank you vice president collins miss ware jackson thank you president chapman um sort of to piggyback because i i was i'd heard that we were getting more parent liaisons uh so that's that's news to me but um i'm wondering if some positions that maybe that we may be losing or tied to the staffing model and maybe we're crossing some of this information up with what's what's what's in the staffing model or maybe no longer in the staffing model can you speak to that dr narcisse miss hall can you come up and talk about that
246he's concerning the parent liaison thank you yes i'm sorry so yes there was um parent liaison from the school level we've been replaced with the parent involvement involvement facilitators it's a long word at the paraprofessionals yes at the site at the um administrative sites we do have parent liaison so that is inaccurate and i would like to know if that email was sent so if you could forward it to me so i could take a look at that please so you're not just going to make sure the parent liaison was not eliminated thank you yes sorry it took a while for me to get there thank you mr jackson vice president collins and so for clarity um yes that email goes on to say that not only is the parent liaison position eliminated which is
247a 40-something thousand dollar position requiring a degree as you mentioned they're told to apply for a paraprofessional position and that's a thirty thousand dollar pay cut um and i just wanted to to mention it and that's it thank you i'm sorry uh vice president console i know you're referring to an email is that an email you received from a constituent or is that an email i'm a staff i'm a staff member and i shared their information is rejected because i'm not trying to cause people problems but people need to be aware so i just want to make sure that at least for my hr process the reason we want to know is because uh we have we ever missed all have we ever sent an email like that no so that's what i need to
248know we like to know where that that reference is coming from yeah just send it to me i mean it's it it confirms exactly what y'all just i mean y'all just reviewed it i only bring this only bring that up uh vice president collins and board members is because we uh seem to always we're trying our best to counter these miss information that seems to be sent and we've also put protocols and processes in place to make sure that we're documenting some of those things and and also we can show all of the communications that we have done concerning this so i just want to make sure we're you know giving the point no problem but and to be fair y'all literally just confirmed what i said was in the email now i can give
249you the email but i hope that the person who sent it out don't get in trouble because i'm sure they didn't send it without being told the senate it's not going to show who who received it and who gave it to them there's no trouble i just can't just say something they will not get in trouble if you got i've only been here six months and i'm hoping that my reputation speaks for itself by now i don't treat people like that but i really want to know because i want to be able to manage um that type of situation i don't want anyone to feel intimidated or less done or dismissive or anything like that i just want to make sure that i am addressing it because if there's one person that have that concern
250i have other people with that those concerns yeah i want to make sure that hr is a space and you can come and have a conversation about anything and i'm able to assess and address it and put whatever resolution in place and get it corrected that's the whole goal so then are there people who were apparently liaisons in 2122 with a college degree basically making teacher salary are they is what you just said true that they will now be offered a paraprofessional position for 17 000 a year so anyone who's been impacted based on the changes in the salaries in the csm their salary was not impacted we just had money conversations with different union members or salary okay the goal is the new folks new hires coming in because this is not their fault
251right we don't touch people's salary that was a conversation we have a general counsel okay and so then to be clear because you know poll lady is concerned so even going into the paraprofessional position then at least for the two years because that's the policy that you're going by with that i'm assuming the two years at least for two years they'll still be at the 40 something yes their salary will okay impacted correct all right thank you very much thank you thank you very much thank you vice president collins the board is clear madam secretary please conduct the vote please vote the motion fails we move now to item g13 professional let's see consideration of a request for approval of the professional services contract between the east baton rouge parish school board and the lsu
252agriculture and mechanical college in the amount of 123 891 dollars to provide staff and program support at the eva lagarde learning center strategic alignment student achievement student achievement is there a motion anybody want to make uh mr baloo he's active on the motion front tonight anybody want to second it going once okay miss dyson miss where jackson um i would like to request that in the let me i probably should have looked at that pull it back up on it before i started but um there's one thing that's just problematic about this is the um in the document i recall there's a a request to change the name and i wanted to comment on that we went through a process to change the name to evil a guard learning center and it was understood at
253that time and and many people spoke about that we gave it sort of a generic name we honors we we honor mrs lagarde and at the same time we left it open so that if a program came in or you know if another school came in there would be no need to change the name with a name like evil a guard learning center whoever is in the building will be learning and uh so i i have you know i i have a lot of pause around um not the mou but just that particular piece in there that looks like um this is something that they really need to to uh to do in order to move forward and i would like to request that um that we go back and uh speak with the partners
254around this and um actually just leave the name alone and i don't want to jump in here if i don't i was going to say is there not a way to fashion that in the motion well no i've i actually uploaded at miss where jackson's request from the previous meeting we revised the agreement so if you look at the backup there's a revised agreement that corrects the name of the school if the board approves that revised agreement tonight we will forward that to lsu for signature so it's already been taken care of yes ma'am i'm sorry i pulled up the wrong thing so it's now evil guard learning center throughout the agreement we made that correction okay so there's no request in there no man now to to do that no ma'am okay great thank
255you very much thank you miss swear jackson um vice president collins when the idea of this school came up i expressed concern and was fussed at by one of my colleagues about being concerned about not having information about a fiscal note now i was told that there was no expense um and here i am being asked to vote on the expense so i leave my comments at that thank you vice president collins and i think you've already you're good mr shamlin okay so the board is clear for now so we go to the audience on item g13 any comments from the audience thank you i'm james finney the comparing the two backups from last week and this week despite mr shamlin's comments i'm not encouraged by the fact that a contract that has been signed
256by lsu in may you have now unilaterally changed now i guess we can take him in his word that the contract the signature line will be thrown out and they'll have a chance to ratify the changes and resign it i hope that's the only change the font size change and who knows i didn't do a character character back character by character comparison um about the names the the building name doesn't have to match the program name and i would hope that you do not have the name of a school that starts with the word eva if you want to call it legard high school that would be fine um but the due proc school gets alphabetized under d walnut hills gets alphabetized under b robert e lee high school didn't get alphabetized under l usually
257it was under r which is ridiculous so the building is named what the building is named um apparently the visitor from maryland feels he has the authority to name these schools whatever he wants to i don't believe he has that authority this is the focus choice school and i heard some really disturbing things earlier before the public was allowed to speak about advisory boards focus choice school what these advisory boards sound a lot like charter boards unelected people accountable to no one and that's disturbing but because there's money involved i'm going to try to squeeze into 57 seconds comments from somebody that wasn't able to make it here with regard to the funding as of 7 36 pm tuesday night i clapped for the school board i saw a bunch of workshops scheduled for tonight
258i read an email that there would be a budget hearing on july 14th with proper notice to the public i assume this meant time for the board time for the public and hoped the board would do this correctly and vote on the budget on the 21st i was excited to celebrate the board and the administration and council in this thoughtful path yet what we hear tonight is that none of this really matters there will be no workshop a hearing and an immediate vote on millions of our dollars that hasn't been explained or vetted once again we worked with you we did the work for you to explain what was legal and shall i wait until i have mr tatman's attention i could but there is in the form there isn't a quorum listen to me
259we did the work for you to explain what was legal and what was the right way you chose the bare minimum and i concur with those comments from my fellow community coranda corley parent and disabilities advocate so on the professional service contract as a regard as it relates to lsu and agriculture and mechanical college the advisory board said dr fenney was speaking of some of those individuals it is written in the contract that they would actually be getting paid some of them will be getting paid to the tune of over 22 thousand dollars that's the problem so i think that if we're going to address contracts we need to really and truly thoroughly read the contracts because never not once should we as a school system be doing entering into a contract where we're going
260to pay an advisory board a total of almost 123 thousand dollars that's more than what we pay y'all we don't pay our staff debt except for the senior cabinet we pay each we pay each of the chiefs 130 000. but those are our employees we don't govern this this board advisory board that lsu would have as it relates to the focus choice schools this is why it was imperative and important that we actually get the fiscal note for the focus choice programs we still don't know to this day how many staff members we would actually have working in the focus choice programs that are supposed to start in august that's not listed in the budget either we don't know how many employees we would have for those focused choice programs we don't know anything but
261we do know that this advisory board is going to receive 123 000 plus that's a problem and when we have contracts like that that mean that we're not doing our just um our due diligence that we're supposed to do for every student every day because that's a 123 thousand dollars that we could use for towards some children with disabilities such as updating our school playgrounds that are not in ada compliance how about offering tutoring programs we don't have that this is why we should be looking at sustainable community school models because sustainable community school models would actually allow us to have programs that's not gonna cost us a thing that's something that we need we need to consider and just in case y'all need to speak to someone about it i can point you in
262that correct direction in regards to sustainable community school models but right now this this contract is the way it's written right now we should not be voting on it to give another advisory board 123 000 plus dollars thank you any other comments from the audience seeing none back to the board the board is clear madam secretary please miss ware jackson um pardon me uh mr tatton and board members uh i almost hate to ask this but i'm gonna ask it anyway could we possibly move this item as well to [Music] to the next meeting to that special meeting so you either make a substitute motion that's a two motion or you would say you want to offer a substitute motion to move it to the third meeting on uh july 14th okay yes is there
263a second to that motion you are a second on the first can you second both i don't think you can i'll accept this okay okay so mark and okay so um the motion is the same motion but it's different subject matter so we will now take public comment on moving this item to the third meeting on july 14. to the committee of the whole or the special meetings it's a it'll be a special meeting okay my comment is that it might be long on the committee of the whole it has no business on the special meeting please go ahead and vote it down tonight jamie robinson um we have schools currently in place that don't have that don't reach their enrollment numbers so we're told that's why they're not being adequately funded we've been told
264that's why we can't keep deans keep full-time guidance counselors keep full-time clerks but we have 123 thousand dollars to give to an advisory board when we're not even appropriating that much to our school board members who are the actual governments of our schools that's a problem what we're doing is already dangerous with even starting this program so soon i would actually kill it tonight don't put it off to later listen this right here right now thank you yes i would i don't think this is a good idea i would uh also vote this down tonight um we we need to work on um using the money that we have and not um waste waste money and tr have to hire all these other people to to try to bail us out um we need to
265be more a lot more fiscally responsible i'll leave it at that thank you the other comments coronta coyly parent and disabilities advocate um if we're going to move it to another meeting date then i would recommend that we have the following information available for the board and the public to review the fiscal note for all focus choice programming the number of employees needed for all focused choice programming whether or not our certified teachers will be working for the professors whether or not these professors that will be teaching in the focus choice programs will be attending iep meetings whether or not these focus choice programs will be excluded excluding children or have selective admissions such as a lottery um how can parents enroll their children into the focus choice programming what is the time frame for
266the focus choice programming etc and if you need me to email that i would be more than happy to but if we're going to vote on it tonight the answer is no we should deny it we should never be paying another board 123 000 plus that's not our board we don't work for lsu doing a collaboration or a partnership does not mean that we will be paying their board we're giving lsu money as it is lsu get millions on millions of dollars from louisiana department of education and they also get millions of millions from us but it is not our job or our responsibility to pay their advisory board to if that's the case then what would be the point of us having a senior cabinet or our board members if we're going to have
267their advisory board doing what you do we elected you to do a job and what i advise is if we're going to move it to the 14th that we actually require the senior cabinet to provide all of this information that i requested if not then we eliminate it tonight thank you any other comments from the audience seeing none back to the board miss dyson yes i would um ask on this item as well um that that to move this uh to the special meeting and that everyone is understanding that we've got students enrolled for this next school year they've already gone and i understand there's a there's a waiting list to get into the school so we don't have time so we really do need to move it to the special meeting um and that's
268the only thing i i i need to say that's the motion um so um miss where jackson yes i just want to comment that in looking at the back up at the the master agreement that's still in there it needs to be removed first page first paragraph please make note of that thank you thank you mr jackson the board is clear um we're we're voting on the motion to move this item to the special meeting with the other agenda items that were forwarded on july the 14th madam secretary please conduct the vote please vote the motion fails we move now to g15 consideration of a request for the approval of an mou template for child care centers charter schools and private schools in the ebr community network for the expansion of pre-k 3 and pre-k
2694 student seats strategic alignment student achievement do i have a motion somebody want to make a move mr blue i knew you were on it man [Music] we're on we're on 15. huh yeah still second okay moved by mr mr baloo and seconded by miss dyson uh miss collins vice president collins these helped me understand um on the pre-k and i'm looking at uh where the seats are being allocated i see just um charters in um daycare centers have we already voted on the traditional schools pre-k have we voted yes ma'am okay these are every year we come for an approval to expand our pre-k-4 and pre-k-3 to our child care centers based on act 3 we have to and part of our network expand seats so these centers are just another expansion that we
270add every year for them to participate in our network and also expand pre-k iii and pre-k four-year-old seats because we're still not mandated unfortunately and so because we want to make sure that we can get them in a high quality instruction we want to make sure that if we get them early then they can move on to our school and we can retain them in those schools what prevents them from being added to our schools versus a child care center very good question the state also requires us to submit a child count and so with their child count they're still they're private owners so they're counted in that private owners count but we're also looking at a way to count them just to say because they're receiving those allocation through the funding that the state
271gives us so we can also show that hey we they are a part of our count in that allocation but we can't put them in jay campus because they are still a part of that owner's child count that we submit to the state so i'm gonna reword the question yes ma'am instead of giving uh kinder care learning center on greenwell which is in my district 91 000 could i turn around and say those 20 seats could be at greenberg they have to apply so we put it all out too so all of these all of we have about 95 child care centers and so what this what you're proving they're going above that they want extra seats and so we put it out and if they're have the capacity to add it then they can
272apply for the seats so everyone has an opportunity to apply for extra seats okay now is that so that's so let's use greenbriar again how do we turn determine if greenbriar gets more seats green bar so this is for the pre-k expansion so if green bar has more seats they can we will just give them to them from our la for allocation our title one not any of these funds not from the sec yes ma'am because it depends on the space at the school and also the demand we look at all of that okay yes ma'am i'm looking also at the uh essa 2 grant money that's a total of 3.3 million dollars we saying we go pass to other organizations how do we determine that we want to send essa two dollars to those
273organizations they have to apply they have to show that they're high quality and we have a accountability how do we determine that from us or two dollars we even wanted to say everybody else come get this 3.3 million dollars what we did is because pre-k 3 is not they're underserved we have about 3 200 students that are three years of age that are not in any type of child care so in an effort to make sure that we get them into high quality instruction early because we in a school system the only pre-k three-year-old programs we have are the ess programs gifted montessori and um the magnet program do our schools not have enough space for pre-k three and pre-k four if we provide the space then that'll we take on life licenses issues that's
274that's the whole issue we we just can't it's so it will be very costly to provide pre-k three until it's mandated and you see with federal government everything they're trying to mandate pre-k three so what we do is through the diverse delivery where we offer it and if the child care center has the space and they can expand we offer those dollars to them and we also had the micro center where we had some space and we piloted it in crestworth as well as westminster and we actually had the space there and we offered it in those schools and it's been going well as a result they're going those pre-k three-year-old babies they're now going to pre-k four-year-old classrooms next year pre-k three has the licensing requirements but not the pre-k for no man because
275of the age okay um what happens to these centers nevermind my other question was really not directed to you thank you very much ms webb is i was just told when we was talking about the budget that we already decided on every single penny on some money but this is i don't know third fourth fifth item on this agenda they say we gonna we gotta decide on some money to be spent which is not your concern miss webb i'm just saying i either already voted on every dime and every penny i have some money or i didn't i don't even know why i'm voting on this because i was already told it was already done um that's it thank you thank you thank you vice president collins miss ware jackson hang on madam we speak
276a lot about high quality pre-k and i'm wondering what determines high quality pre-k you say they have to prove that they are high quality yes ma'am we receive early childhood ratings so the k to 12 sites and schools they receive the letter grades a b c d and f in early childhood we receive excellent high proficient proficient approaching proficient and unsatisfactory those ratings can be found on the louisiana believes website so if you click on any school that has a pre-k program it'll also show you that early childhood accountability accountability rating and that's how the department defines high quality okay one more question i was thinking about dewfrock and i recall that they had some issues around um whether they could was it three what was it four um i guess a short question is
277did they apply or did or could they apply for pre-k three yeah do frock has a montessori pre-k 3 program because they are we had to get that site license because of the three-year-olds that were there so we did expend it for that school it was um and so we do have that one it is a licensed child care center for the three-year program so we have exp we have expanded pre-k three for the montessori site there okay all right thank you man you're welcome thank you miss ware jackson um seeing no other comments or questions from the board at the moment we go to the audience on item g15 and i'm daniel lamford uss paraprofessional at jefferson terrace academy i'm deeply concerned and perplexed about this pre-k as expansion um trying to understand why
278we were including three-year-olds in this i i understand we we believe in every child every day every student every day i do too but i also think in those early formative years of a child's life they should be with their parents that the way things used to be like a hundred or so years ago everything was a teaching experience um taking care of animals um because a lot of people lived out in the country changing attire oh all these fangs um cleaning the house you know all these things that we um parents teach for children are teaching experiences and the primary educators of children and the first educators are their parents um i do believe in public schools i i i believe in in helping them out but i i also know that um that
279children um really need to be be around their parents as well otherwise um and fabulousness is a huge issue that that's why we see all the the violence and everything um going on because um i think it's primarily due to poor parenting it is due to choices as well but i guess my point is also different different children learn at different rates um but i just don't think it's wise to take children on this earlier we're going to go to two and then one-year-olds or are we gonna do it for for life or i'm trying to see what what's the point of rap around this pre-k expansion i think it's a huge takeover thank you and i'm daniel lamford hi i'm james finney i heard something alarming in one of the presentations in response to
280a question with instruction with three-year-olds i hope the instructing of three-year-olds involves there are the cool blocks and there are the cool trucks and there are the books and maybe we'll read a story to you every now and then i would hope we're not expecting three-year-olds to sit in chairs and listen to lectures um so there was an interesting item about lack of licensure so apparently the licensure issue wasn't a and problem for getting the private contractors to come in to westminster and crestworth sites which leads me to another thing i asked for public records related to one or both of those sites and i'm still waiting several months later we don't have four-year-old instruction at all of our schools once that becomes universal then we should think about three-year-old instructions the three-year-olds as i
281understand it at dufron belfair generate no mfp from the state so i would hope those three-year-old programs get this funding before a private day care funding gets it i was persuaded by somebody who's opinion i respect that i shouldn't attack the private day care centers in industrial zones too badly because this money makes um it helps the bottom line so they can afford to take care of one and two-year-olds so women can stay in the workforce but there's absolutely no reason for you to be subsidizing impact charter dalton elementary or lanier elementary those schools would wither away and quit taking tax money away from us if we weren't subsidizing their four-year-old programs so either drop this entirely and bring it back in 60 days or whatever or just take out impact take out dalton take
282out lanier if you don't have any authority over where the money goes then tell the state they can administer their own 9 million dollars thank you any other comments from the audience karonda coyly parent and disabilities advocate um first and foremost can we reposition the camera for our asl interpreters because whenever anyone enter into the door they're actually crossing in front of the camera which is going to cause a problem for our individuals with disabilities that are watching our board meeting now getting on to the topic the pre-k expansion i would not have a problem with the memorandum of understanding if it would embody our children with disabilities and how we're going to ensure that they are included in the pre-k expansion as you're aware children matriculate through early steps they actually get to enroll
283into our traditional public school system at the age of three some of those that come through the summertime may not because we always have our individuals that work in ess off we instead of making them 12 month employees we have made them eight month employees so we miss out on monies that our school system could actually receive but if we were to make the ess employees for the evaluation teams 12-month employees then we would then be able to have children with disabilities that are transferring from matriculating from early steps into the traditional public school to actually be in esy which would allow us more funding into our general budget in addition to that this would also allow those children to actually be able to have an iep ready for the beginning of the school year
284so that they can actually have the accommodations needed for the first day of school this would also allow them to have the health plan that is needed this is something that we actually should be looking at um our memorandum of understanding right now as it exists does not talk about the disability seats and that's what is important i would like i said right now we have children with disabilities that are not i repeat they are having to stay at these centers instead of being in our traditional public school system because our ess employees are not 12 month employees but only 10 month or eight month employees so please look and look at that and then once y'all address that then we can talk about uh approving the memorandum of understanding but until we address those
285children with disabilities coming from early steps i cannot approve this expansion thank you any other comments from the audience seeing none back to the board the board is clear madam secretary secretary please conduct the vote please vote the motion fails we move to item g16 consideration of a request for the approval of the amendment of the board approved stipend to include all employees that utilized approved family medical leave act leave for the 2021 2022 school year do i have a motion moved by miss where jackson seconded by okay miss miss tyson i just needed clarity on a little bit of the language right here um yeah i second it but i needed to get some clarity um so the way that it's worded is that um the amendment is to the board of proof stipend
286to include all employees that utilized approved medical leave are we talking about all of um i mean we're not going to start adding in additional categories of employees um so we're not gonna include all of those that were not included because originally we did school site didn't we school site so it was certificated certificated school site right no it was across the district certificated employees and support staff okay so and this says all employees so right um that would be all employees if they're certificated or um support okay does that make sense do i need to clarify okay so that is all employed yes yes but there are two categories a certificate and the certificate is 1200 and the support staff is 600 as per the board approved back in february okay thank you we
287have a motion in a second we do not have any questions or comments from the board at this point we'll take comments from the audience i'm james finney i appreciate miss tyson's question because i was here when mr lannis was trying to make up a motion on the fly to include people that he reasonably thought should be included and i thought that you were only doing this for um i didn't realize you're giving it to all the central office folks too but be that as it may um my concern is that you're you've heard lots of anecdotes about people being left out and i don't think you're covering everybody so guess go ahead and pass this but don't be under the misguided impression that you solved the problem there were people mentioned last week who
288i don't think this covers i heard a comment from somebody that this might have been on facebook not at the meeting but she had very carefully saved up enough sick weave to cover the time she needed to be away from her classroom well unless i know less about fmla than i think i do if she just used sick leave she wouldn't have had to use fmla and if she was gone 21 days no stipend so you know i hope you don't think however this word is actually solving the whole problem it'll probably catch some people make some people happy and then you'll be back again to fix it again thank you just state your name please good evening my name is amelia gilmore i am a mother and one of the ebr teachers who did
289not receive the stipend due to time spent on maternity leave i ask you all to vote in support of this amendment doing so will show your support not only for us as teachers but also for us as people thank you good evening my name is craig gilbert i'm a teacher here at evr and i have been for the past eight years and i did not receive the stipend um for the most part i do come to school all the time and i have a lot of time that has been saved up i have a question we're saying that family medical leave is the one that you all are about to prove now okay because i was attacked by a student and i was out of work and because of those days i was um treated
290very poorly and i was not allowed to come back to work until i got approved from my primary care physician which is really hard to get an appointment being as though we're in the middle of a pandemic but i was told that i would be okay you know just you know i came back to work and then after that i ended up catching covey and i was out and the way the secretary coded my covet leave it put me over there not she didn't use my med she didn't use any of my personal time or my sick time she docked me actual pay and it wasn't caught in the system and when it was caught they said well that was back in january so even if she did correct it it's too late now you
291don't qualify for the stipend so i did not get the stipend um i wasn't really understanding how things go um it doesn't make or break me that i didn't get it but for other people that may be in the same situation that i am that really needs it or counts on it that may make or break them i would like for you all to take all of that into consideration and if there's any questions or anybody likes anything i have recorded conversations as well as emails and other documentation to support what i just said thank you all for your time any other comments from the audience okay chronic oily parent disabilities advocate it hurts my heart to know that our school system actually violated federal law by not allowing individuals that were on fmla or
292maternity leave to not be able to receive a stipend that stipen was actually supposed to be part of a paycheck and they didn't get it and when you're on fmla or on maternity leave you're supposed to get paid that is something that i still would advise all those individuals that did not receive that stipend at that time to file an eeoc equal employment opportunity commission as well as an american disabilities act claim the website for the federal government is easy to access all you got to do is google it and the human resources director is supposed to provide these individuals that was on maternity leave and fmla information about eeoc so now we have two problems one where they did not receive a stipend and the second where our human resources department failed to educate
293the staff about eeoc and american disabilities act and i hate to say this but i'm going to say it that's a reflection of our leadership it you have to fall on the sword and accept responsibility just like we had the previous human resources director fall on the sword and accept some responsibility for the person that was employed that shouldn't have been even though she didn't do it that's what leadership means due to this failure i think that we should not only give these individuals to stipend we should give them that stipend plus interest plus interest we need to look at how much it would cost if each of those employees were to file eeocs and ada claims against us and we need to think about outweighing that cause and looking at the how much that
294litigation will cause and just say hey we're gonna settle with y'all and give you that stipend plus interest and i don't know how much that interest should be but it definitely should be enough to make them whole because right now they are not whole and we are months behind on that issue it should never it is never okay for us to not adhere to the law if you don't know those laws i'm a phone call away you can reach me by email a telephone i send it to you often i call i don't get no recall return but i would never stop you can always reach me i would definitely help you and point you in the right direction thank you so much mr chairman and i'm gonna take the rest of that time for
295the meeting on the 14th any other comments from the audience seeing none back to the board miss ware jackson thank you president tenton um you know when i when i asked to bring this back because of the uh the women that were on maternity and and missed it you know i didn't mean to open a big old can of worms but um at any rate i'm glad that you know many more people have been able to um take advantage of this and and and that we'll be able to um uh send these these stipends out that we we missed uh i would ask though if you know if if uh someone would take a look at what took place with mr bilbray and see just just take a look at that and see you know
296if there was some error made you know he mentioned something about some dates and and that kind of thing so no okay we'll look into it yeah i don't mean right now just yeah yeah later thank you miss where jackson um board is clear madam secretary please conduct the vote please vote the motion carries we move to item i miss collins if we could just repeat what's going to be all these special meetings and you know since we own an organizational items with the meetings that we should just produce an agenda can you do that right mention the ones that's that's yeah from the ones that were voted on the day to be the ones that are to the third meeting just recap that if you don't mind don't hold me to this miss collins
297yeah i want to be careful that we don't make a statement about what's on the meeting agenda and we'd be wrong that i'm a little concerned about that but yeah i mean i know we're gonna get an agenda out on it i'm just worried i mean you you're the council i don't i just don't want to announce like if we accidentally excluded one yeah so we yeah it's a special meeting so to go i think we can go over that we have the required public hearing and then on the budget and then the budget meeting and then a special meeting after that where all of the items that were motioned to be on that agenda from this meeting will be that's a special meeting that'll be that special meeting i'm calling it the third meeting
298to keep track and then there will be a committee the whole after all right does that make sense and ms collins what we'll do is as april works on the miss hormone works on the minutes that'll reflect that and so we'll make sure we review that make sure it's accurate before we actually release the agenda okay um i won mrs where jackson before i read this i would just like to ask the board if we could consider separating um the hearing and workshop if we could possibly just consider y'all think about it um having a workshop that's not on the same day as we've got a lot of stuff piled up and um i think i know we were expecting to have a workshop at this meeting it was on the it was on board
299docks and then uh removed and you know i just questioned the uh so i can't explain that at the beginning of the meeting it was a notice issue um which is why we had to pull it because right i understand okay i understand uh the notice issue but it's it's about having like a workshop that's separate from from actually having the budget hearing and then we vote on it right afterwards um just to give some time for people to digest the uh the budget and and all that so like if we had it tonight then we had all of this time in between but i think we would have violated the law if we would have had it tonight oh the budget had to be the workshop needs to be that far apart from the
30010 days yeah so the law requires it's actually a public hearing that the law requires and and the difference is and you know the difference in the workshop and the public hearing republican comment so the law required that we know this ahead of the public hearing and the adoption so we couldn't hold those two until the notice runs and the appropriate amount of time runs okay okay well i hope you all understood that better than i did all right an announcement of meetings and someone asked for say repeat it yeah so the law requires that the board publish and advertise those meetings before we actually hold the meeting and there's a there's a period of time i believe it's ten days uh um that we're required to do that before we can actually conduct a
301public hearing and adopt a budget well that doesn't affect a workshop right right so if you're requesting something talking different a workshop being separated from the public hearing so that there's time in between to be able to digest what's presented in the workshop before we actually come yeah so if the board members want to have a workshop i i think that's great i'm happy to call one a couple of things we're going to have with a workshop is a quorum and we move the meeting from the first week in july to the second week in july because of travel but must we have a quorum to give us a workshop to do a workshop now we could do a public meeting yes so so we yeah yeah go ahead no you're right i'm i'm tired
302go ahead i'm sorry man so in the same way that we held public meetings for redistricting we did those purposely because no quorum was needed and so we you could have board members attend the public could attend the public could ask questions we could do something similar um you wouldn't require quorum well yeah that would be better than nothing to consider well maybe we can send a poll out and and find out if um if we can get uh board members to a workshop so we can take a look at this and then have time in between to digest it all and i know we're all meeting down and everything but at least we have a break we've got almost a month well and the deal with me is i actually was fine on the
303first week of july but everyone else wasn't so i moved to what i was doing the first week of july i mean i'm sorry i was i moved it back i was supposed to travel on the 14th so some people may have shifted like that i don't know but we'll we'll absolutely poll in it yeah we can find that we want to have one it would be we'll put it together okay all right great announcement of meetings public i'm sorry budget public hearing workshop to be held july 14 2022 at 5 pm at the central office boardroom special meeting to be held on july 14 2020 22 immediately following the special meeting at the central office board ring board room special meeting following budget special meeting committee of the whole to be held on july
30414 2022 immediately following the special meeting at the central office boardroom room regular meeting to be held on july 21st 2022 at 5 p.m at the central office boardroom you miss where jackson support is clear um since mr baloo was really active on the motion motion to adjourn by mr baloo do [Music] so [Music] do [Music] you