Meeting of the Baltimore County Board of Education - June 9, 2026

001Chairwoman Jane Larer, I call to order the meeting of the Board of Education of Baltimore County for Tuesday, June 9th, 2026. This evening's board of education meeting is being broadcast through the BCPS online live meeting broadcast and on BCPS TV Comcast Exfinity channel 1073 and Verizon Vio or Verizon FiOS channel 34. In order to efficiently conduct this meeting, all voting items this evening will be done by roll call vote. May I have a motion to go into close session as permitted by the opens meeting act as found in the annotated code of Maryland general provisions article 3-305 B1 and B7 to discuss the appointment employment assignment promotion discipline demotion compensation removal resignation or performance evaluation of appointees employees or officials over whom it has jurisdiction or any other personnel matters that affects one or more

002specific individuals and consult with counsel to obtain legal advice. So move young. Thank you. May I have a second? Second. Pumphrey. Thank you. May I have a roll call vote, please? Miss Frmp, yes. Miss Abe, yes. Miss Dowski, yes. Dr. Seavoy, yes. Mr. McMillian, yes. Miss Pumprey, yes. Mr. Young, yes. Miss Damonowski, yes. Miss Hen, Miss Leicter, yes. Thank you. Good evening. This is Chairwoman Jane Lter. I now call to order the meeting of the board of education of Baltimore County for Tuesday, June 9th, 2026. I invite you to recite the pledge of allegiance to the flag to be led by Miss Foresight Uname. We will then have a moment of silence in recognition of those who have served education in Baltimore County. To the flag of the United States of America to the stands

003one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Tonight's board of education meeting is being broadcast through the BCPS online live meeting broadcast and on BCPS TV, Comcast Exfinity channel 1073 and Verizon FiOS channel 34. In order to efficiently conduct this meeting, all voting items this evening will be done by roll call vote. Sorry. The first item on the agenda is consideration of the agenda. Dr. Rogers, are there any changes? Yes. Um, at this time, there is a request uh for a motion to add 7330 project for Dumbartan Middle School special uh project gymnasium floor. May I have a motion to add item to add item Q to tonight's agenda. So move Pumprey. Thank you. May I have a second? Second boy. Um, thank you. Any discussion? May I have a

004roll call vote, please? Miss Framp, yes. Miss Agome, yes. Miss Dlesuski, yes. Dr. Seavoy, yes. Mr. McMillian, yes. Miss Pumphrey, yes. Mr. Young, yes. Miss Dominowski, yes. Miss Hen, yes. Miss Lar, yes. Thank you. The revised agenda is approved and the agenda stands. Earlier this evening, the board met in closed session pursuant to the open meetings act for the following reasons. to discuss the appointment, employment, assignment, promotion, discipline, demotion, compensation, removal, resignation or performance evaluation of appointees, employees or officials over whom it has jurisdiction or any other personnel matter that affects one or more specific individuals and consult with council to obtain legal advice. The close session summary and the open session information summary can be found on board ducks under this board meeting agenda date. Next on the agenda is a special order of

005business. I'm sorry, my computer is not advancing. Next on the agenda is special order of business recognizing our student member of the board, Miss Foresight Uname. At this time, could foresight please join Dr. Rogers and me at the front of the deas. Okay, here we are. Um, hi. The following resolution is being presented by the board of education and it reads, I'm going to let you hold one copy of it and I'm going to read Okay. Whereas foresight on Gumbbe has served as a student member of the board of education of Baltimore County with honor and distinction for the 2025 2026 school year including participation on the board's audit curriculum legislative and governmental relations where she served as vice chair and the policy review committees. And whereas Foresight's student advocacy journey began at Eastern Tech

006High School, where she served in several leadership roles, including the Baltimore County student councils, vice president, school safety liaison for the Maryland Association of Student Councils, student member of the Maryland Center for School Safety SubC cabinet, and the Maryland Youth Advisory Council. And whereas she has demonstrated outstanding leadership, dedication, and commitment to school safety by working with the department of school safety to launch and provide informative student messages around new safety protocols. And whereas foresight collaborated with the Maryland Center for School Safety on statewide efforts to examine the psychological effects of school lockdown drills, helping to inform conversations about the student safety and well-being. And whereas she extended her commitment to student advocacy on a national level with student speaks at Harvard Law School, an initiative dedicated to promoting full voting rights for student members

007of board of educations nationwide, helping to elevate student voice and strengthen student participation in educational decisionmaking. And whereas foresight is to be commended for bringing honor to this school system as she continues her education at the University of Pennsylvania to major in philosophy, politics, and economics. Now therefore be it resolved that the board of education of Baltimore County assembled in regular session on the 9th day of June in the year 2026 expresses to foresight its fondest regards and gratitude for her services and it be it further resolved that the board herewith extends its best wishes to foresight for happiness, good health and continued success in future endeavors and directs a copy of this resolution to be recorded among the permanent records of the board of education of Baltimore County. Okay, wait a sec. Wait, wait

008a sec. Not wait a sec. One second. Um, fellow board members, I move that the board accept resolution 2026-01 in recognition of student member of the board foresight on. May I have a second? Second by second everybody. All in favor say I. I. The motion has passed unanimously. Congrat now. CONGRATULATIONS Thank you. Next on the agenda is a special order of business. This is recognizing foresight again. No, it's okay. Next on the agenda is special order of business recognizing Superintendent Dr. Miriam Rogers. The following resolution is being presented by the board of education and it reads we don't need a resolution. I didn't know that. Of course, there's a resolution. Okay. Resolution 2026-02. Whereas Dr. Miriam A. Rogers has served as superintendent of Baltimore County Public Schools with honor and distinction since July 2023. And

009whereas Dr. Rogers has worked to dismantle barriers to student success with drive positive change through a strategic and steady focus on academic achievement, safety, and climate infrastructure and highly effective teachers, leaders, and staff. These efforts stopped a decadel long achievement decline, improve student outcomes, and move BCPS forward. And whereas under Dr. Rogers leadership, BCPS, narrowed opportunity and achievement gaps across student service groups, made unprecedented progress in student performance and achievement, and built an innovative and collaborative learning environment where students can excel and reach their highest potential. And whereas by leveraging academic reform strategies, BCPS improved elementary literacy, reading, mathematics, and English language proficiency proficiency test scores, increase the number of top school ratings from the state, as well as national school rankings, and achieved a dramatic decrease in chronic chronic absenteeism. Dr. Roger strategic efforts

010to expand student options and opportunities led to the successful expansion of fullday prek and enhanced access to dual enrollment and tuitionfree programs including the new direct admit initiative which streams early admission for BCPS students. And whereas Dr. Rogers championed the physical and social emotional well-being of students by expanding access to mental health resources through new partnerships with Talkspace and Sigma. BCPS advocated for and ex secured grant funding for community mental health providers to provide enhanced behavioral health services to uninsured and underinsured BCPS students. Dr. Rogers also launched a mental health screening program in partnership with the Ray of Hope Foundation to connect students ages 8 through 18 with confidential mental health and wellness screenings. She implemented new safety tools including Omni Alert and Open Gate and expanded the school safety assistance program leveraging critical funding

011to ensure the placement of SSAs in all secondary schools and establishing a support model for elementary schools. and she elevated student voice and leadership and tech. I know it's long and Dr. Rogers's unwaving belief that we must embrace all stakeholders, engage them in authentic collaboration, and empower them to be part of a positive change helped revitalize partnerships, engagement, and volunteerism in the system. Through her strategic outreach efforts, BCPS has now more than 800 businesses, nonprofits, and community groups providing directive support to students. And her work with internal and external advisory groups, the PTA Council of Baltimore County, elected officials, and various stakeholder groups brought together diverse communities in support of the system. And whereas Dr. Rogers has fast forwarded student progress and strengthened operational efficiency and climate. BCPS has increased teacher retention rates, revitalized system

012processes and services, decreased vacancy rates, and fostered positive school and central office climate and morale. Through comprehensive systemwide professional learning and development, team BCPS staff have built a shared commitment to continuous improvement which has ultimately ensured that our system achieves better results for the 108,000 students and families we serve. And whereas her undeniable dedication, steadfast advocacy, and pursuit of educational excellence have served the students and families of BCPS well have been recognized at the local, state, and national levels with awards including the 2023 Women to Watch and the 2026 Women in School Leadership Honor, which recognizes exemplary talent, creativity, and vision. Now therefore be it resolved that the board of ed herewith assembled in regular session on the 9th day of June in the year 2026 expresses to Dr. Maria May Rogers on behalf of

013the citizens of this county our deepest appreciation and gratitude for her valuable service and be it further resolved that the board does here within extend its deepest appreciation and gratitude for her dedication, loyalty and service and further extends its best wishes for good health, happiness and continued success in her future endeavors and that a copy of this resolution be recorded among the permanent records of Baltimore County of the Board of Education of Baltimore County. So now I know how to do this. Fellow board members, I move that the board of ed Whoops. Fellow board members, I move that the board accept resolution 2026-02 in recognition of Superintendent Dr. Miriam Rogers. May I have a second? Second, Aumebe. Thank you. All in favor say I. I. Thank you. The motion has passed. I'll be able to

014go Yes. I now need to call Mr. Bazemore. Mr. Bmore. He's not. Thank you. Oh, here's Dr. Rott. Good evening, everyone. Good evening. My name is Tony Bae Moore, and I'm honored to be here tonight standing next to someone that I admire greatly and have have grown to love and and work with you every day in the trenches. You, me, and Mildred and the rest of the team. And um I just want to say Dr. Rogers, thank you for my professional development and personally in my personal life cuz you meant a lot to me and my family and you are brilliant and we're going to miss you. This is bittersweet. Uh but today my duties is to give you a citation and a letter from Congressman Quisfume and he actually called me today. So I

015don't get many calls from Congress people. I actually stood up when he called. He said, "Do you know this?" I said, "Yes, sir, I do. I know who this is." And uh he said that he wanted me to personally give you this and that the only reason he couldn't make it today, Dr. Rogers, is because Washington has called them back. They have some voting they have to do, and that's the only thing that kept him from being here personally today. So, I am uh following my my orders from the congressman. I'm not going to read the um we have three two letters and a citation. I'm going to read one of the letters that will encompass the citation as well. I think it embodies everything he's trying to say. So, here we go. I'll read

016this. And words are important. Oh, yeah. I do. I I don't need glasses to read. And that it's kind of neat. I can't see anyone right now. Okay. Uh, dear Dr. Miriam Rogers, I would like to heartily congratulate you on the momentous occasion of your well-earned retirement from public service. For the last three decades, you have served the people of Maryland with distinction, and I am so glad that you were able to both begin and conclude your career with Baltimore County Public Schools. Over over your years of service, you have served in many roles, always prioritizing the needs of our students, staff, and families. From your first role in education as a chemistry teacher at Woodlon High School through your time as director of school performance, deputy superintendent and superintendent, you have consistently demonstrated a

017commitment to equity and staffing and educational outcomes and to ensuring that your students reach their full potential. Your dedication to the success and well-being of Baltimore County students, families, teachers, administrators, and support staff has been evident throughout your tenure, and the many awards and citations that you have received have been richly deserved. Over the last three years, and I'm proud to be a part of that, you have made tremendous progress in reversing a decadesl long trend of decline in student achievement and solidified Baltimore County status as one of Maryland's premier school districts. Your successor will have large shoes to fill, but you have left a solid foundation to continue building upon the successes you have made. Congratulations once again on this major milestone. As you enter this next chapter in your life, know that our

018state is brightened by your continued presence. I wish you the very best in this and all of your future endeavors. Sincerely, Congressman Quisian Fume. And he asked me to give us to the secretary to make sure this is entered into the official record at at uh Baltimore County Public Schools. Thank you. Thank you. One one last piece. I know you're going to love this part. Tradition is that following one's service as superintendent, a portrait is done and placed with the other former superintendent in the Greenwood Administration building. At this time, on behalf of the board, I would ask everyone to acknowledge the leadership and dedication that Dr. Rogers has provided to the board and school system during her tenure as superintendent as I unveil your portrait. Oh, it is you. picture with your picture. Thank

019you. Okay, where are we here? Okay, next on the agenda is personnel matters and for that I call on Mr. McCall. Just as I was getting comfortable. It's your turn. Good evening, Chair Licter, Superintendent Dr. Rogers, and members of the board. Like the board's consent for the following personnel matters. Tonight, we have terminations, retirements, resignations, and leaves. Thank you. Do I have a motion to approve the personnel matters as presented in exhibit F1? So move Stleski. Thank you. Do I have a second? Second. Pumphrey. Thank you. Any discussion? May I have a roll call vote, please? Miss Fong? Yes. Miss Stilowski? Yes. Dr. Seavoy? Yes. Mr. McMillian? Yes. Miss Pumprey? Yes. Mr. Young? Yes. Miss Dominowski? Yes. Miss Hen? Yes. Miss Lter? Yes. Thank you. Do I have a Wait a second. Do I have

020a motion to approve the personnel matters as presented in exhibits F2 through F4? So move Stleski. Thank you. Do I have a second? Second. Young. Thank you. Any discussion? May I have a roll call vote, please? Miss Frmpon? Yes. Miss Abe? Yes. Musleski? Yes. Dr. Seavoy? Yes. Mr. McMillian? Yes. Miss Pumphrey? Yes. Mr. Young? Yes. Miss Dominowski? Yes. Miss Hen? Yes. Miss Lter? Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. a call. The next item on the agenda is administrative appointments and for that I call on Dr. Rogers. Thank you, Madame Chair Licer and members of the board. I am bringing forward the following administrative appointments for your approval. Director Education Foundation and Grants Office of the Chief of Staff. Director Mathematics, Department of Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics. Principal Fort Garrison Elementary School. Principal

021Hawthorne Elementary School. Principal Parkville Middle School. Principal Talson High School Manager Office of Facility Support Services. Thank you. Do I have a motion to approve the administrative appointments as presented in exhibit G1? Thank you. Thank you. Um I think we have our first and our second. Do you get that, Miss Gver? Um any discussion? May I have a roll call vote, please? Miss Framp, yes. Miss AOE, yes. Mr. Dlesky, yes. Dr. Seavoy? Yes. Mr. McMillian? Yes. Miss Pumprey? Yes. Mr. Young. Yes. Miss Dominowski. Yes. Miss Hen. Yes. Miss Lictor. Yes. Thank you, Dr. Rogers. Yes. Thank you. Our first appointment this evening is Karen Ballard. Please stand to be recognized. Karen is attending this evening with her husband Rusty and is being appointed as the principal at Hawthorne Elementary School. With 23 years of experience,

022Karen's experience include elementary classroom teacher at Sparks Elementary School, stat teacher, reading specialist, and assistant principal at Hollird STEM Middle School, and assistant principal at Dundok Elementary School. Congratulations. Next appointment is David Bell. Please stand to be recognized. David is attending this evening with his wife Cassan is and is being appointed as the manager in the office of facility support services with 25 years of experience. Prior experiences include program manager with the Maryland Department of Juvenile Services and area facility supervisor with Baltimore City Public Schools. Congratulations and welcome to BCPS. Our next appointment this evening is Lawrence Bo Duval Jr. Please stand to be recognized. Is attending this evening with his wife Brienne and is being appointed as the principal at Talson High School with with 23 years of experience. Those prior experiences include physical

023education teacher at Delaney High School and Lock Raven High School and assistant principal at Caitensville Middle School, Northwest Academy of Health Sciences, and Eastern Technical High School. Bose's prior experiences include physical education teacher at Queen Ans County Public School. Congratulations. Next appointment this evening is Jennifer Farmer. Please stand to be recognized. Jennifer is attending this evening with her husband George and as the principal at Parkville Middle School with 20 years of experience. Jennifer's prior experience include mathematics teacher at home and hospital crossroad center stimmers run middle and lound middle schools assistant principal at Pinerove Middle and Parkville Middle School. Prior to that, she served as a mathemat mathematics teacher at Cecil County Public Schools. Congratulations Our next appointment is Sarah Salter. Please stand to be recognized. Sarah is attending this evening with her husband John

024and is being appointed as the principal at Fort Garrison Elementary School. With 25 years of experience, Sarah's experience include elementary classroom teacher at Mars Estates Elementary, Riserstown, and Timmonium Elementary, technology integration teacher and stat teacher at Lutherville Lab, and assistant principal at Fort Garrison Elementary School. Congratulations. Next appointment is Jennifer Samsky. Please stand to be recognized. Jennifer is attending this evening with her significant other Brian and is being appointed as the director of mathematics in the department of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics with 18 years of experience uh and service in Baltimore County Public Schools. Her previous experiences include elementary classroom teacher at McCormack Elementary and Logan elementary schools, elementary classroom teacher and stat teacher at Imagine Discover Public Schools, assistant principal at Dundock Elementary and Norwood elementary schools, and principal at Sussex Elementary School.

025Congratulations. Final appointment of the evening is Dr. Heather Woolridge. Please stand to be recognized. Dr. Willidge is attending this evening with her husband Bruce and is being appointed as the director education foundation in grants in the office of chief of staff with 27 years of experience with Baltimore County Public Schools. Heather's BCPS experiences include English teacher at Overly High and Dundoc high schools, work-based learning teacher at Dundoc High School, assistant principal at Papco High School and Center for the Arts, coordinator in the office of college and career readiness, and specialist for the Education Foundation. Congratulations. So, congratulations to all of our new appointees. Our next item is public comment. This is one of the opportunities the public provides to hear the views and receive the advice of community members. If not selected to address the

026board, members of the public may submit their comments to the board members via email at boebcps.org. The Baltimore County Public Department's Homeland Security Unit and Office of School Safety has recommended safety and security protocols which are posted in the boardroom and available in board docs and on the board's participation by the public website. While we encourage public input on policy, programs, and practices within the purview of this board and this school system, this is not the proper form to address specific student or employee matters or to comment on matters that do not relate to public education in Baltimore County. Inappropriate personal remarks or other behavior such as language that promotes violence against a BCPS employee or that disrupts or interferes with the conduct of this meeting are out of order and will not be tolerated.

027Persons who otherwise disrupt or disturb this meeting will not be allowed to continue their remarks and will be escorted from the meeting. Please observe the 3minut clock which will let you know when your time is up. The microphone will be turned off at the end of the time or prior to that time at the discretion of the board chair. It is the practice of this board to allow elected officials to provide their comments to the board. We have several elected officials who are um attending virtually this evening and our first speaker is delegate Jennifer White Holland. Free to run around all day. Delegate Holland. Madam Chair. Yes. Can you hear me? Yes, we can. All right. Thank you so much, Madam Chair, and my apologies for not being there in person as uh I'm on

028mommy duty and had some child care lapses. Um but I simply want to just extend my congratulations to Dr. Rogers for a job well done. And I first just want to say thank you. Um thank you for your leadership and guiding Baltimore County Public Schools. uh your perspectives, approach and the legacy you have left for our public school community, its students, faculty, parents, caregivers, and the larger village. We are grateful that you stepped up to serve at a moment when your leadership was needed. I have the pleasure of being one of the state delegates for district 10. And it has certainly been a pleasure to serve alongside you and to work in partnership with you and your administration. And when I think about it, I believe we both began our service as state delegate and

029as superintendent in the same year. And so to have someone with classroom experience at the helm of BCPS, it was extremely valuable. And it has been a gift uh because you know what it's like for educators. You've engaged with parents, caregivers, community partners, and most importantly, you know what it's like to have direct engagement uh with our students and ensuring that we consistently meet them their needs and that our decisions center them. And so, you've navigated conflict and challenges so gracefully. Uh you have accomplished so much uh really turning our school system around. Our academics have improved and simply put, you have put Baltimore County Public Schools on the map. uh you have ensured that excellence is not just a goal but an expectation and so while your tenure as superintendent is coming to an

030end uh we are thankful for your arc of work um that will leave a long lasting impression to the community and so while I'm decided while I'm disappointed rather um that uh baby Riley who you hear um will not be able to attend BCPS under your leadership um as Riley begins clapping her hands now we applaud you for your years of service. Uh we applaud you for the amazing accomplishments and the goals that you have not just met but exceeded as superintendent and the the long legacy that you will have in our school district. We will forever be grateful. So Dr. Rogers just would like to extend again our congratulations uh to you. Thank you. Thank you. Our next speaker is Senator Ben Brooks. Senator Brooks. Nope. Okay. Our next speaker is Senator Shelley Hedelman.

031Okay. Our next speaker is Delegate Cheryl Pastor. Thank you. Good evening. I hope you all can hear me well. I am uh so remorseful that I am not there tonight in person, but I am at um an event. And I absolutely wanted to be able to chime in and to say thank you, Dr. Rogers, for all that you have given us. I don't need to repeat all of the wonderful things that have been said about you. I concur with each and every one of them. You have certainly made a a difference to Baltimore County Public Schools. And as the vice chair of the delegation, I want and feel that I can speak uh for our members and thanking you uh for everything that you've done, the changes that you have made, the things that will

032live and resonate with the children and the staff members in Baltimore County for years to come. Someone said they're big shoes to follow. They are absolut they really absolutely are going to have to come with big shoes. But a couple of things that have not been said because you just do what is necessary and it's not always a case of being publicized or people spending an awful lot of time talking about them. But I want to thank you. I'm thanking you personally and as a member of uh and a resident of Baltimore County, I want to thank you one for making sure that the discussion about the Northwest uh Korea Technology Center has been put on the table and I'm sure that this board will make sure that what you've started will be followed through

033and we will get that center. It's been a long time in the making, but you're the first superintendent to get it to this point. I also want to thank you for making sure that our culinary students, particularly who come under that umbrella of the career technology program, have a strong relationship with the uh Pikesville Armory Foundation and everything that is happening up there. as as that project is growing, it is now reached the point of being a national treasure. Not just a county or a state treasure, but a national treasure. And it does my heart good to know that our children in Baltimore County are a part of that. And last, I want to thank you for the program that you helped move forward with the Baltimore County Fire Department. That program as well has

034been touted as something that is to be treasured in Maryland. And now other counties are looking at following our model. years and years and years ago, we had so programs such as this and then they simply died. But under you, we have brought it back. And so last year, we had our first class of seniors who came through the program. And doing this program, they now are certified to be firefighters and EMT practitioners. And for the next year, we have gone further. We will have 30 students who will be a part of that program. Bravo. Thank you. None of it was easy, but you stayed the course. You made sure it happened. And now we are not just about our academics, but what we do in terms of service for the total community. We stand

035front and center in the state of Maryland. So, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You have much for which to be proud. And I know that you are retiring. You say to take care of some family, love, and business. But I know we will see and hear from you again because you are an awesome educate and talent such as yours got to continue to blossom and bloom. You are doing God's work. So thank you. It has been my pleasure to be able to work with you and to make some of these happen, some of these things happen. I will be blessed just from having to work with you. Thank you. I wish you well. I wish you success. I wish you peace and love. Thank you. Thank you, Delegate Pesture. Our next speaker is Delegate

036N. Scott Phillips. Well, thank you. Hopefully everyone can hear me clearly. We can. Um, all of us are out and about in all of these events and that's the only reason we're not there. I'm going to say that on behalf of the delegation chair Ebisaw who's physically in a room in another room, delegate Althia McCascal who is also in another room. So I just want to make that comment because all of us wish we were there to celebrate and congratulate you Dr. Rogers on your retirement and thank you for your extraordinary service to the students, the families and the educators of Baltimore County. Um, for me, it's truly been a pleasure working with you over the years as a member of the Baltimore County delegation. And I got to tell you, I've always appreciated your

037openness, your accessibility, and willingness to engage us. Whether it was your regular legislative information sessions that you did, whether it was the budget briefings, the town hall meetings, our individual conversations, you consistently ensured that we were informed, engaged, and equipped to advocate on behalf of the family and our communities. What I admire most is your genuine care for students and your steadfast commitment to their success. but not only students but the entire staff. You led with professionalism, integrity, and a clear focus on educational excellence. Under your leadership, has already been said, Baltimore County Public Schools have rocked. We've achieved remarkable success, including the increase in the number of our national blue ribbon schools, the number of schools that have scored at the very top in the state of Maryland. And all of that is taking

038place under your leadership. But the real deal is you never lost sight of the fact that education is ultimately about creating opportunities for young people. Your leadership has positively impacted countless students and families and your legacy will be left and felt for years to come. So on behalf of the constituents of the 10th district, as you've already heard from Delegate White Holland, I'll speak on behalf of Senator Brooks and Speaker Ammerida Jones. We thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. When I think about you, I think about I think about Elijah Cummings and something he would always always say. said that our children are the messengers that we send to a future that we will never see. You have done quite a job in sending messengers into the future with your accolades for the

039last 30 years as an educator. So, we thank you. We wish you well. And over these years, I want to say I thank you because to be quite honest, I feel like it's gone beyond the professionalism. And I consider you a friend. So, I want you to have the very, very best in your retirement. And like Delegate Pastor George said, uh, we know we'll see you again. So, congratulations. Um, thank you to the board for giving us the opportunity to just come and give Dr. Rogers her flowers. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Gover. Are um, Senator Brooks or Helman on? Nope. Okay. Our next category is our school system affiliated groups. And our first speaker is Miss Leslie Weber representing the PTA Council of Baltimore County. Good evening. I haven't been here in person for

040a while, so I'm happy to be here. Thank you. Good evening, Chair Licter, board of education members, and Dr. Rogers. I'm Lesley Weber, president of the PTA Council of Baltimore County. Sitting with me is Beth Jarrett, chair of PTA Council's Advocacy and Legislation Committee, who also serves as Free State PTA's vice president for advocacy. First, we recognize that this is your last board of ed meeting, Dr. Rogers. We truly thank you for your partnership and for your long-standing support of PTA Council and PTAs throughout BCPS. We we wish you all the best wherever life takes you. PTA is first and foremost about advocacy at the national, state, county, and local levels. PTA is the oldest and largest child advocacy association in the country. I think it's fitting that we end the school year and the

041PTA year highlighting a great achievement in advocacy. At our March 2024 general meeting, which always has a health and safety focus, members heard a troubling troubling report from the Sierra Club on the dangers of synthetic turf. Beth initiated this presentation based on her work volunteering with the Sierra Club. In January 2025, our board voted to support the installation of grass fields over tur turf fields moving forward in Baltimore County. This position and related information then moved on to free state PTA where its board approved a resolution which supports a moratorum on a moratorum on any new outdoor synthetic turf fields and replacing existing ones with natural grass as they require replacement. the installation of visible visible warning signs at all synthetic turf fields in Maryland, warning of heat risk and chemical toxins and offering recommendations

042to improve safety and advocating to support the construction and use of natural grass fields and oppose the construction or use of artificial turf fields. Now proving the power of grassroots advocacy, Beth will attend National PTA's annual convention later this month to present a form of this resolution to voting delegates from around the country. If approved, the resolution will be counted among dozens of other National PTA Child Health and Safety Resolutions, which serve to formalize and focus the positions of the organization and are an important part of National PTA's advocacy work. This progression from PTA council to national PTA took a little over two years which I think is amazing. This is the power of advocacy at the local, state and national levels and the power of people working together to improve the lives of students

043and families. This is the power of PTA which I will address when I testify uh for policy 1210 later in the meeting. Thank you. Thank you. Our next speaker is Mary Crowe representing Noddingham Middle School's parent teacher organization. Good evening. My name is Mary Crowe and I'm here again to speak on behalf of the Nodingham PTO, our community, and the more than 250 people who have signed a petition in support of our message. We want to thank Miss Hen and the entire board for your unanimous support at the April board meeting. We were hopeful that your actions would encourage BCPS to do everything in their power to name Noddingham a community and low performing school so these critical supports could be returned to our students and staff. However, to our knowledge, neither of the required

044requests have been submitted and there continues to be a lack of transparency regarding the status of this work. At the last meeting, we requested that the superintendent submit two letters. one to MSDE requesting LPS designation for the 2526 and 2627 school years and another letter to the Maryland Department of Budget and Management requesting community school status for the 2627 school year on the basis that Nottingham's poverty rate would have originally exceeded the 55% requirement had a significant error in last year's data not lowered our 2-year average substantially. Tonight, we are asking for confirmation that these requests have been submitted. If they have not, we ask that they be completed and a confirmation provided to the board by June 16th. We are running out of time. National board certified teachers at Nottingham have already lost thousands

045of dollars in comparison to golden ring salaries. Not only are we struggling to retain these teachers for a third year of lost wages, we continue to miss out on the opportunity to recruit other highly qualified teachers. We understand that LPS designation typically requires two years of data, but Nottingham's opening was not a typical situation. As Mr. McMillan noted in April, had Nottingham retained Golden Ring School Code, our students would have continued receiving all supports. MSDE recognized this unique situation in April of last year and stated they would immediately consider an appeal if the superintendent submitted a letter with supporting data. The overview of that data we provided over a year ago at BCPS's request is included on the back of your handout. On the front, you will see a comparison of Nottingham's poverty data with

046neighboring schools, showing a clear anomaly in the first few months after Nottingham opened. MSDE has acknowledged these concerns and informed BCPS officials in February that the superintendent should request consideration for community school status through the Department of Budget and Management. It has been extremely disheartening to be included by state officials on emails with BCPS as they were repeatedly told specific avenues available to correct the harm caused by the change in school code, only to then watch month after month pass without those requests being submitted. Tonight, we are not asking for anything new. We are simply asking that BCPS pursue the solutions state officials have already identified so that Nottingham students, families, and staff can receive the support they've been waiting for. Thank you. Our next category are unions and our first speaker is Lloyd Allen

047representing Tabco. Good evening, Chair Licter, Superintendent Rogers, and members of the board. Thank you for your time. I'm Lloyd Allen, Heim, Vice President of the Teachers Association of Baltimore County, speaking on behalf of the association with permission from President Olds. Dr. Rogers, congratulations on your retirement. Tabco has appreciated each time that we've been able to manifest our values by collaborating with you and your team. We look forward to continuing to implement article 3.16 of our negotiated agreement by collaborating at all levels, including with your successor. We also look forward to working together with our sibling unions as we all work for the empowerment of our students in the continuation of our democratic society. We also celebrate our internal unity. Tabco held a member straw poll about public sector right to strike with more direct participation

048than any vote for any topic or office in recent memory and this helped the conversation to continue statewide in January. Now the previous January we advocated for a safe zones immigration justice resolution and policy. The resolution and informal practices were developed at that time and for that we are grateful. The passage of 1250 last month though shows that our school system values all of our students. Thank you. Coming back to this January, this was a tough budget year. We were dismayed on learning that 594 positions would be cut with the initial budget. The fact that 140 positions were restored is worth celebrating, but next year will be difficult without those other 450 positions. Today, I saw educators moving supplies between rooms, taking their personal items home, all while grading final exams, posting final grades, and

049writing progress reports. Yesterday, a memo was linked from the newsshub indicating that educators changing work sites work sites should clearly label boxes with the new work site that their items should be shipped shipped. But countless unit members do not yet know where that will be. 14.6 six of our agreement states that each educator will receive written notice of their proposed school assignment and general teaching responsibility by the last duty day. While there are mechanisms for those assignments to change, how many of our members are still in limbo? A week from today is our last duty day. Two weeks from today is the official primary election day. Please have a plan to vote and ensure that your vote counts. If you want to know who Tabco recommends, check out mdapple ballot.com. And finally, educators preparing for

050summer recharge. If you're a school-based educator, talk to your library media specialist about what you may borrow for the summer. Whether it be a book to recharge by remembering your purpose like Parker Palmer's courage to teach, a book to improve your understanding the of the world uh like something from Gloria Ladson Billings, or as my LMS has lent to me until September, a book that helps to borrow the perspective of a teenager, particularly a teenager with a different identity than oneself. Tabco supports our LMS unit members. Thank you. Thank you. Our next category are nonprofit community groups and our first speaker is Marietta England representing Bonar County NAACP. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening, Chairman Listister, board members, and Dr. Rogers. I am Maretta English, and I chair the education committee and AXO for the

051NAACP, Baltimore County branch, and I have with me the president of our branch, Dr. Roland Patterson. We gather here tonight to celebrate a truly remarkable educator, leader, and advocate, Dr. Miriam Rogers. To be here and reflect on her legacy is to look at a master class in dedication, vision, and deep-seated care for our community. Dr. Rogers, your journey in education reads like the perfect formula for success. You began your career right here in Baltimore County Public Schools as a chemistry teacher. You taught our students about reaction, elements, and the bonds that hold things together. Little did we know you would spend the next several decades applying those exact principles to our entire school system. From the classroom, you stepped into leadership as a building administrator and then served with distinction as a deputy superintendent. And

052finally, for these past three spectacular years, you've guided us as our superintendent. In every single role, you never lost your teacher's heart. And look at the modernday acriy you have performed under your leadership. Our school system have reached heights many thought impossible. You drove a relentless focus on academic excellence, directly raising student test scores in both reading, math, and other subjects. Because of your vision, our district now boasts more blue ribbon schools than any other school system in the entire state of Maryland. You didn't just push our students to succeed. You lifted our graduation rates, ensuring that more young people walked across the stage with a diploma and a clear pathway to a bright future. Your legacy isn't just written in data points on national and state accolades. It is ri woven directly in the

053fabric of our community. You broke down the walls between central office and the neighborhoods. You were present. You attended countless community events. always listening, always showing up. When it came time to build our school bud budget, you didn't just do it behind closed doors. You built an inclusive process that brought the community to the table, ensuring every voice was heard and every dollar reflected reflected our share valued. You champion championed diversity, making sure that every single student group felt seen, protected, and empowered. A shining example of this was your unwavering support of the Baltimore County NAACP AXO program. You recognize the talent of our students and encourage principles to assign dedicated coordinators for the program and the result was Can I finish this? And you could go on and on. No, but thank you. No,

054no, I I just have a few more things to say. Thank you. The result was a massive surge. I can't let we have so many more people waiting. Really? All right. Okay. Thank you very much. Can I just say Dr. Rogers, you're you close this chapter and step into a welldeserved retirement. You leave behind a school system that is stronger, fairer, and and infinitely brighter because you chose to lead it. And we thank you for your bottom of our hearts. We will miss your leadership, but we celebrate your legacy. Thank you. Our next speaker is McKenzie Allen representing um Pubble Puzzle Peace Charter School. Uh Good evening, uh Chair Licer and members of the board. My name is Mackenzie Allen and I serve as the executive director of the Maryland Alliance of Public Charter Schools.

055We are the advocacy organization for all the public charter schools in the state of Maryland. We also administer Maryland's federal charter schools program grant. Through that program, Puzzle Pieces Learning Academy was awarded approximately $1.5 million in federal startup funding. That award followed a competitive third-party review process and reflected a determination that the school had the potential to successfully serve Baltimore County students. I'm here tonight to ask you to reject any recommendation for revocation and instead grant Puzzle Pieces a one-year extension to open fall 2027. Let me be clear, Puzzle Pieces is not blameless, but neither is BCPS. The school initially had a funding partner prepared to purchase the facility, renovate it, and lease it back to the school. That arrangement fell apart after discussions involving BCPS personnel, forcing the school to secure a traditional lease

056arrangement under far more difficult circumstances. At the same time, Puzzle Pieces was forced to adjust its financial plans after BCPS determined that funding contained in the executed charter agreement had been included in error and they would not be providing the funding. The school had relied on the terms of that agreement when it signed the facility commitment. When that funding was withdrawn, the school's financial position changed dramatically. The resulting facility challenges should not be viewed in isolation from the decisions that helped create them. I would ask this board, where is the accountability for the authorizer? The charter agreement requires BCPS to provide guidance and assistance to the school and designate a primary point of contact. Puzzle Pieces is not the first charter school to encounter significant challenges during the opening process in Baltimore County. At some

057point, when the schools change, but the obstacles remain the same, it is reasonable to ask whether we should examine not only the variable, but also the constant. The school leaders are different, the governing boards are different, the missions are different, the schools are different, but the authorizing process remains the same. This is not an excuse for puzzle pieces. It is simply a recognition that if we want different outcomes, we must be willing to honestly evaluate the systems and processes that contribute to these outcomes. No BCPS funds were ever dispersed to puzzle pieces. No public money was lost. No students were displaced. No educational services were interrupted. This is not an emergency revocation situation. This is a school facing implementation challenges that can still be resolved. Puzzle Pieces has agreed to a one-year solution. That solution

058is before you tonight. That extension preserves approximately $1.5 million in federal funding. Revocation is not a solution. It is a decision. It is a decision to abandon a solution. Thank you. Our next speaker is Jerma Void from the Alpha Kappa Alpha Sarity. Good evening. Good even good evening. I'm Chairman Lectar, board members, and superintendent Dr. Marian Rogers. My name is Jerome Voy and I serve as the first vice president and program chairman of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated, the oops epsilon Omega chapter where we proudly serve Baltimore County for almost 32 years. I bring greetings on behalf of our president Dr. Nikia Shoel Bart. As a long-standing BCPS community partner, we are grateful for the opportunity to speak before you, the board. Once again, we come before you in support of the continued progress reflected

059in BCPS accountability data to encourage continued investment in student success programs that have helped sustain momentum and to offer our sincere congratulations to Dr. Rogers on her retirement. Under Dr. Roger's leadership, BCPS has continued to stand among the strongest school systems in Maryland and one of the top systems in the nation. We are especially encouraged by the improvements in chronic absenteeism, reading and math performance and graduation rates. We know the progress of this kind is only possible through hard work and teamwork. So today we also want to thank and recognize Baltimore County Public School staff, educators, counselors, support personnel, students, and families whose dedication and partnership have made this success possible. Investing in our children is one of the most important investments we can make. We remain committed to helping ensure that every student is

060prepared to succeed in a world that is constantly changing and becoming more competitive. The oopsilon epsilon Omega chapter is deeply grateful for our partnership with Dr. Rogers and the Baltimore County Public School System. We look forward to continuing our work together to support programs and to create the opportunity to expand access and promote excellence in Baltimore County students. Again, congratulations, Dr. Rogers, on your remarkable career in education. Your commitment to excellent and passion for student success has left an enduring legacy that will be felt for generations to come. Thank you for the opportunity. Thank you. Our next speaker is Lynn Lawings from the Baltimore County Chapter of Continental. It's missing on my paper. Continental Societies, right? Did I get it right? Okay, that was memory. Good evening, Madame Chair. Good evening, Dr. Rogers. Good evening,

061board members. I was just so excited. Um, I haven't been here in a minute because I've been busy wearing a lot of hats. I am the national uh board member as well as the public relations officer of our Continental Society chapter, Baltimore County. I have my president here, Michelle McCoy, and other members that are standing here and we are just so excited. Uh, we started the organization in 1956 and guess what? 70 years today. We are 70 years old and we have 50 chapters throughout the United States supporting children and youth. And I'm excited because as we speak right now, we are getting ready for our conclave in um Virginia where we had four chapters who started Baltimore County, Delaware, Virginia, and Philadelphia. They started with giving children uh in their areas support and actually

062it has expanded over 70 years and we are excited to be a part of that. We wanted to thank you Dr. Rogers because every time we had an event on June 19th, guess what? Who's there? She was there. She stopped at her booth. She had her children. We were so excited. We were like, "Dr. Rogers is here. Come on." We took a picture with her and she just promoted the the energy and gave us the the feeling of continuing to service children. So on behalf of our chapter, we have here something for you to take. And it says, "On behalf of the Baltimore County chapter of the Continental Societies, we extend our heartfelt gratitude and appreciation for your dedicated leadership, unwavering commitment to excellence, and steadfast support of the Baltimore County School. Thank you for

063championing academic achievement, student well-being, safe learning environments, and operational excellence while always keeping the needs of children and families in the center of your work. Continental organizations like us have benefited and we are excited to continue to serve children in the Baltimore County area. As you embark on your next chapter, we celebrate the impact of your service, the lives you've had touched, and the legacy you leave behind. Your leadership has inspired progress, foster collaboration, and created opportunities that will benefit students for years to come. With sincere appreciation and best wishes, thank you, Dr. Rogers for your service, vision, partnership, and your impact will not be forgotten. And I must say that we have to also say thank you to the board members. You're welcome. Yes, sir. Thank you. Our next speaker is Kesha Parker from

064the Baltimore County Alumni Chapter. Hi. Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Okay. Thank you. Greetings, chair lifter, board members, and superintendent Dr. Rogers. My name is Kesha Parker, and I'm the third vice president of the Baltimore County Alumni Chapter of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Incorporated. Our chapter president is Lisa Daniel. And our service area is Baltimore County, where we have served families and students for nearly 42 years. In those years, we have forged numerous partnerships with the Baltimore County Public Schools through educational development programs, physical and mental health initiatives, youth leadership programs, and supported hundreds of students in their scholastic journey. While our membership has a strong and established presence in providing relevant programs to address the evolving needs in our community, we want to take this moment to thank and commend Dr. Rogers

065for her leadership and her understanding of importance of youth programming in our community, for her partnership in ensuring students have opportunities and access to scholarships, and for simply staying focused on the main priority, the students and the teachers. Under Dr. Rogers tenure. Nearly 50 academic scholarships have been awarded and over $500,000 have been raised toward toward the scholastic journey of BCPS students in our community. Dr. Rogers, your support has been exceptional. Your support has been invaluable. And on behalf of our chapter, we congratulate you on your retirement. All the comments before and the resolutions presented are clear. Your impact will live on. We wish you on behalf of our chapter all the best in your next journey. And thank you to the board as well. We look forward to continuing our partnership with BCPS students

066and teachers. And thank you for a moment to speak this evening. Thank you. I just want to make a thank you to all of our speakers. I just want to make a reminder that um for security reasons, we ask that everyone stay seated um during the speakers. Our next category is individual citizens or students. Our first speaker, I'm going to try my very best, is Kennedy Buuo. They're not here. I'm sure I messed up the last name. First name Kennedy. Okay. Our second speaker is Tracy Chavez. Good evening. Good evening. Um, my name is Tracy Chavis and I'm a mass special educator at Nottingham Middle School. I'm requesting your full support tonight in ensuring that the formal requests for Noddingham to be added to the community schools and lowperforming schools lists are submitted. LPS status

067provides additional incentives to attract and retain national board certified teachers. The process of achieving my national board certification has been the most impactful professional development I've ever taken on because it has directly benefited my students. The journey has enabled me to better adjust my lesson plans to meet the needs of individual students, assess my students knowledge prior to, during, and after instruction, and use data in new ways to assess student progress and learning goals. Noddingham deserves to attract and retain national board certified uh national board certified teachers who have also gone through this rigorous and meaningful process to the same degree that other schools in our community have. If a teacher looking to transfer can make more money at Middle River, Pine Grove, or any school teaching a similar population as ours, then how can

068we possibly be expected to recruit them? Um, so again, I'm requesting your full support tonight in ensuring that the formal requests for Noddingham to be added to the community schools and lowperforming schools lists are submitted. Thank you. Thank you. Our next speaker is Sharon Shoff. So frustrating. Good evening. First want to uh say congratulations to Dr. Rogers on your retirement. I'm going to come straight to the point concerning special ed. Over the last three years, we have heard that special education is a priority. My question is why am I so busy as an advocate? As matter of fact, I've never been in over two decades as busy as I have been this school year. And I'm not going to be done the last day of school. I have meetings till the end of this month.

069I'm concerned that my favorite saying is I hear more crickets from the office of special education than I hear when I go camping. That is because when I provide I send an email, I leave a voice message, I contact somebody on their personal cell phone, I still do not get a response. And if an IEP chair sends that same kind of a message on behalf of one of my clients, if they get a response, it's vague. So, I'm going to give you some ideas as to how to make things better for our special ed students. Nothing new. Follow the IEP as written. If I am asking you to provide weekly communication to a parent, I should not hear back from an administrator. The policy in our school is no news is good news. And yes,

070I did hear that today at an IEP meeting. That's concerning. if I need to find out information about who I need to contact in the schoolhouse for assessments to schedule an IEP meeting. I would like that information on the website. I would like that information if I contact the school through the phone. The athletics department and the cafeteria should not take precedence over special education and it does. Teachers and IEP chairs need to be trained. I'm not seeing that right now. Thank you. Our next speaker is Joelyn Odell. Good evening. Uh, hello. Thanks for having me. Uh, my name is Joelen Trulov. I'm a National Board Certified Teacher of Social Studies at Caitensville High School. I've been teaching in Montgomery County and Baltimore County schools for 32 years. Um, I am here tonight to urge

071the board to revise policy 5120, attendance, in order to restore meaningful attendance accountability to our high schools. I realize that we are have made some good postcoavid movement in attendance numbers but I think we still have work to do to support our student learning especially at the high school level. A lot of you may remember that before co um rule 5120 required students to attend class through this mechanism. chronic absenteeism, meaning more than 10% of um missing more than 10% of a quarter, resulted in loss of credit for that quarter. After COVID, Maryland as a state system moved toward what they called um non-punitive strategies in order to approve attendance, which is great. Um, soon after that, following Komar, BCPS introduced the uh, herefor exclamation point attendance intervention programs. However, I think a mistake was

072made. In addition to these supportive programs that focus on intervention, I firmly believe that you need to um, bring back the 10% rule. Legally, Komar leaves room for attendance-based consequences. If you read it carefully, it says that you can designate a certain number of days for a quarter semester or a year. What happens when kids don't be are not held accountable? On your handout on the last page, this is my 2A US standard history class. I printed this out today. Today I met a boy who I'd literally never seen before. This is the last day of 2A. He was assigned to me in January. He's at the top of your list. He missed 68 classes. He was there today. What does this student do? the student will be assigned to edmentum where that's a whole

073other issue in into an in and of itself which I imagine I'll be back one day to tell you about but um there is no there's no reason for this child to show up to school. It's become optional. Some students will stay at home and do assignments on the computer and pass my class. this student is not passing my class. But you can see from this list that half of the students are chronically absent and it's only impacted the grades of a few. They're making up assignments. Um they are doing them on the computer, but they're not learning. They have to attend to truly learn. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Our next speaker is James Donahghue. Um virtual Mr. Donahghue, what? He's not there. Okay. Um, our next speaker, um, is right. I'm

074going off of the waiting list right now because we have two openings. Um, and the first speaker is Colleen Yuzupus. Use Hi. Hello. Hello, Chairman Lter, Dr. Rogers, and Baltimore County Public School Board members. Um, for reasons that will become clear as I start speaking, uh, before I start my prepared statement, I'm going to ask if everyone would consider closing their laptops, maybe turning over their phones, or putting them um in their pockets or purses. if you would do me um that respect of showing me that I have your attention. Uh thank you so much. So I am speaking tonight as the parent of two elementary age children in BCPS. I'm here because I have noticed inconsistencies regarding the usage of student Chromebooks in Baltimore County public schools. My students were provided Chromebooks in kindergarten

075and until this school year, they transported them back and forth to school daily. The purpose and use of the Chromebooks in their education is murky to me as a parent. Teachers, administrators, and county curriculum members are not on the same page. My students have been offered screen time as a class reward or um for indoor recess when conditions did not allow them to go outside. Um, and I just have a couple examples of um, things that my students have done during the school day on uh, websites that they are allowed to access on BCPS. They've been provided login and class codes for these websites by their teachers. Um, last year it was playing math games to collect pets on Prodigy. Um, they can only play this game after they have hurried through their assigned work.

076Um, and then they have enough time to play the games. Um, they also have the option to play at home if I put in my credit card and pay a $5 monthly fee. Uh, that was introduced to them in school. Um, they play uh a game called Geometry Dash, which sounds um optimistically like math uh but it's actually just a circle with eyes and you push the button every so often and he jumps over spikes and such. Um my my favorite thing um that my kids love to look at on their device um is on Epic. Um it is a website where they access educational literature. Um I printed him out. He's a hot dog. Um he dances and he sings weeny weeny weeny on a bun bun bun. Um, this is the evidence-based uh

077tool for instruction that my children are accessing. Um, are these tools evidence-based? Why are my students using their devices this way? Who's approving these tools? Um, last board meeting a few uh Thank you. Our next speaker from um James Donna Hugh did not come back on yet. Correct. Okay. Our next speaker um from the wait list is um Bos Feron. Did you say my name? Okay. Good evening. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to speak to you. Dr. Rogers, I really wish you well. I know I and yourself have not really agreed on many items, but I truly wish you well and thank you for your service. My point to you as board members is borrowed from one of my favorite past board members, um, Miss Williams. Uh, she used to talk about the

078board. The board you are the board of authority. Your seven votes, 10, 11 votes discussion is about the power of change. And as you select a new superintendent, you could choose someone who is politically approved by someone outside the room, politically correct, etc., etc. and we'll have status quo as we had for many many years before. Or you could choose the one that is in my opinion honest, open, communicative and capable of taking care of the school system to be successful. I don't know which way you decide but what I am trying to say each one of you vote is really a vital vote. It shouldn't be political. It shouldn't be about color, religion, um affiliation with the group. It should be about making this school system effective. You know, think of it like a

079factory of rockets and you make improvements. I honestly don't see improvements. I hate spoil the party. I don't see improvement in school system. Maybe a little bit. We need an obvious objective improvement. I thank you. Thank you. Before we go on to our public comments um on board policies, I do understand there is confusion about Nottingham Middle School and the status of community school um or the other statuses. I just want you to know that staff has reached out to um MSDE um and has a confirmation from Mr. Derek Anderson who's the executive director of the community school branch of MSDE. Um and he is saying to our offices um he's confirming that there is no appeal process as Nottingham Middle School does not meet the 55% threshold even with 2 years of data to

080be eligible for concentration of poverty funding. And this was sent um to BCPS on June 4th um 2026. I do understand there is a lot of confusion, but I do want you to know that um staff has reached out to MSDE um to talk about the appeal process and that was um his response. At this time, we are moving on to public comments on two board policies. The first one being 1,200. We do have many speakers signed up. If you were inadvertently put on this list, but you were wanting a different list, um, just let me know that you don't want to speak on um, policy 1200, community involvement. The first person on the list is Mr. Edward Perez. Edwin Perez, I'm sorry, Mr. Edwin Perez. Okay, it's okay. Okay. We're not kill My mom

081would kill me. It's okay. We won't tell. Good evening. Is it okay if I address both at at once? Um, just one at a time. Oh, one at a time. Okay. Okay. Good evening, Chairperson Lure, Superintendent Dr. Rogers, and members of the board. My name is Edwin Perez. Tonight I'm speak I'm honored to speak as chair of the Justice, Equity, Diversity, Inclusion Committee, and the Multilingual Community Partnership of the Baltimore County PTA Council. I'm here tonight regarding the first reading of policy 1200 uh which offers an opportunity to expand how we embrace, celebrate, and support our entire school community. Uh first, we voice our strong support for the inclusive updates to our district's language, striking the restrictive term citizens from policy 1200 and expanding guardians to caregivers in our ethnic diverse multi-thnic and multilingual quarters

082across Baltimore County public schools. Family means everything. and a student's primary advocate might be an immigrant parent, a grandparent, or older sibling, or dedicated caregiver. By widening these definitions, this board is sending a powerful message to our multilingual communities. You belong, your care is recognized, and you're a valid partner in our student success. This reflects the National PTA's core commitment to welcoming all families, eliminating barriers, and building a bigger, more inclusive table for active participation. Thank you. Thank you. Our next speaker for policy 1200 is Sharon Shoff. No. Okay. Thank you. Um, next speaker is Leslie Weber. Good evening again. Because policies 1200 and 1210 are closely aligned, I'll offer more detailed commentary when I speak about policy 1210, which pertains specifically to PTA council and PTA PTAs. Regarding policy 1200, PTA council completely agrees

083that entire community needs to come together to support our schools, students, families, and staff, and that fostering strong and inclusive community relationships is an important board goal. We're happy that the policy recognizes PTA council and PTAs as community partners and also recognizes the work of other organizations including PTO's booster clubs and foundations. Any committed group of volunteers striving to improve our schools deserves to be commended. Thank you. Thank you. Our next speaker is Ramon Ramona Basilo. Basilio. I'm sorry. I'm tongue tied tonight. Ramona Basilio. Good evening. I'm here to speak in support of policy um PTA PTSA. Um and I also This is 1200. You want to speak on 1210? I spoke for signed up for 1210. Okay. Is that okay? Um yes, I can come back. Um while you're I'll come back. Okay. Thank

084you. Um thank you Mr. Lloyd Allen. 1200 1200 uh Lloyd Allen. Uh resolutions uh are uh statements of belief of an organization uh that have been adopted through the democratic process. Uh Tabco shares the resolutions of NEA, the National Education Association, unless we have a resolution that specifically countermands them. Uh, resolution 8-3 of the NEA states that the NEA recognizes its responsibility to promote an understanding of the history and continuing importance of public education and to support public education and public education employees. The association encourages wide community and parental participation in achieving and maintaining educational excellence. The association believes that school boards and other stakeholders also have a responsibility to promote public understanding of the importance of public schools. The association also believes that public education should be publicly and democratically controlled without undue influence

085in decision-making on the part of any private interests including but not limited to business concerns in philanthropic organizations. However, the NEA goes on to identify criteria for effective partnerships, including agreement on core values, one-to-one relationships between families and educators that are linked to learning and connecting students, parents, guardians, and educators to the community. Additionally, it is noted that collaborating cooperatively with co-planned co-implemented school community business partnerships in the support of public education is positive, but to be careful that programs are not simply marketing to the schools or using the schools to promote their products. Thank you. Um, continuing with policy 1200, I don't believe Miss Lyn Lawings is still here. Okay. Um, Bash Ferron policy 1200. Thank you for the opportunity. First paragraph 1 to 15 lines is really very good. I want you to

086know that I don't just criticize. It's it's really good. Okay. Second paragraph line 20 to talks about participants. And what I'd like to propose to you after being active in the school system for 30 years that you put in this policy please that the board and administration shall answer every participant comes into the meeting comment complain or send email because if you don't then what's what's the sense no answer no phone calls you know I mean that's not really engagement line number 30 to 39 talks about the staff encourage foster welcome support community involvement now you know what I complained about in the past right you do know you know I complained about keeping us standing there outside in the cold in winter time. I'm talking about the two times I have been ejected out

087because one time I stood up and I wanted to take a picture of the board in debate. Not to mention the many emails that I spend the time in thinking about them, phrasing them and sending them to you. No answer. And I think Colleen already talked about that and Sharon did talk about that. I have been talking about it for a very long time. So this policy you need to put the teeth in it. And in the third paragraph it talks about encouragement. What does that mean really? Once you approve this, is it going to be different for people like myself? Is it going to improve our outcome? Not really. Not really. Whether you pass it or not, it's not going to make the students go to Harvard, be astronauts. It's not. Thank you. Our

088next speaker, we're still on policy 1200, is Derek Burton. Okay. Our next speaker virtually is James Donahghue. Where is anybody online? Nope. And our last speaker for policy 1200, Francis Laboy. It's okay. Good evening. Okay, let me breathe. Um, good evening. My name is Francis Aoy and I'm here in support in Nottingham for Nottingham Middle School advocacy for a designation as both a community school and low performing school. Excuse me one second. Are you talking about policy 1200? I don't I signed up for Nottingham. I'm not sure. Or are you going to talk about policy 1200? I don't think so. This is policy 1200, but that's okay. Thank you. Okay, moving on to policy 1210. Our first speaker is Edwin Perez. Good evening, uh, Chairperson Le, Superintendent Dr. Rogers, and members of the board. My

089name is Evan Perez. Tonight, I'm honored to speak again as a chair of the Justice, Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion Committee and uh and the Multilingual Community Partnership of the Baltimore County PTA Council. Uh we are here tonight regarding the first reading of policy 1210. We celebrate policy 1210's focus on the unique relationship with PTSA's PTA. Our local PTA units are legally incorporated accountable nonprofits operating under standard uniform national bylaws. This framework guarantees a high predictable standard of systemic advocacy across the entire county. As the board thoughtfully considers policy 1210, the PTA believes every adult who steps up for our kids is an asset to ensure this partnership thrives. We encourage the board to continue to pair with the PTA to work with inclusivity guidelines consistent with all organizations. Together, we can ensure that every community

090in Baltimore County public schools benefits equally. Thank you. Thank you. Our next speaker for policy 1210 is Sharon Shoff. Okay. No voice. Okay. Thank you. Our next speaker for policy 1210 is Lesie Weber. Good evening again. We're grateful that very little has changed in this policy. We believe that it renews the board of education's commitment to PTA council and PTAs across the school system as being the official parent group partners of the school system. As noted in the policy, we value our partnership with the board to help implement the board's goal on community engagement and communication. As I mentioned in my stakeholder testimony, PTA is the oldest and largest child advocacy association in the country. It's an open organization. Anyone can pay dues to become a member of any local unit and have a voice

091in that body. Our mission statement is to make every child's potential a reality by engaging and empowering families and communities to advocate for all children. Our tagline is every child one voice. We're here to advocate for all children in BCPS. PTA Council's nonprofit training, guidance, and resources help our 130 plus units help their communities. We truly believe that a strong PTA and strong family and community engagement lead to better academic outcomes for students and improve the entire school community and the lives of its students, families, and staff. Regarding effective communication, we're grateful that we've been able to share information about PTA Council and PTAs via BCPS's monthly partnership spotlight newsletter. Through our close relationship with the BCPS Office of Family and Community Engagement and its supervisor, Suhan, we're able to learn about BCPS news projects

092and programs and share this information with families via our newsletter, website, social media, and email. We're thankful to have been given the opportunity to take part in monthly leadership roundts with Dr. Rogers. At these sessions, PTA presidents and council members have received important BCPS presentations and have been able to ask questions in an open format. We truly hope these meetings continue when the new superintendent comes on board. Again, thank you for your support of PTA Council and your partnership with us. Thank you. Our next speaker um I believe is not here, but I'll say the name again. Kennedy Equa. And our next speaker for policy 1210 is Lloyd Allen. Good evening. Lloyd Allen, vice president Tabco. Please note that support for PTA and PTSA organizations is a facet of the agreement negotiated between Tabco and

093Baltimore County Public Schools. 10.8. The board encourages teachers to join PTSA organizations in their schools and to participate in their programs in accordance with established policy. I believe that this policy or I believe that that line of our contract was there when I joined uh Baltimore County public schools in 1999 and immediately join my school's PTA. As an exeicio participant in the Baltimore County PTA council, I would encourage PTO organizations to belong to the PT to get themselves to belong to the PTA council for resources, support and guidance. Thank you. Thank you. And our last speaker for policy 1210 is Bos Feron. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Not our second to last speaker. Come on. Followed by Miss Basilio. Yes. Thank you. The first paragraph talks about parents, caregivers, family, community involvement, etc., etc. So, think

094of it this way. I am not a parent anymore. My kids are grown up and I'm not a guardian, but I pay taxes. The lights here are coming from my own taxes. All right. Where is my name? Where are the taxpayers as a group name in the policy? It's not really there. I think it deserve to be included. Second paragraph line 15 to 25 talks about committed, fostering, supporting, community engagement, communication, etc. So I don't want to bore you how long I have been here but the way school system communicates today is not really a whole lot different than 20 years ago. It's not really different. You know today the communication is more about Facebook, Instagram, um responding to emails, you know going to someone's home. No way. You know, discuss things with him or

095her if they are concerned, addressing issues of parents like you heard today from Colleen, responding to them, responding to somebody like me. You know, even though I paid taxes, I don't get any response. I really like my money back. You know, you go to restaurants, you don't like the steak, they don't charge you for that steak. They give you a free one. They ask you to come back again and no pay. I need my money back. You're not responding to me. And the last one point talks about providing a sustainable system. That's life line 24 that the school system is providing a sustainable system. I say it's good sustainable system but you need to make sure to include that the system is effective and efficient. If it is efficient, you will have better yield with

096graduation, absenteeism, etc. Thank you. And last, but certainly not least, Miss Basilio. So, good evening. I'm here. Um, Dr. Rogers, thank you for everything. I echo everything that has been said. Um, you have been a true godsend and a blessing to the school system. However, I'm here to talk about policy 12. I could see the chair looking at me now. Um, first of all, the PTA Council of Baltimore County has been a partner since 1969. So, probably, help me do the math. What's that, 57 years? Probably as long as myself and my distinguished friends have been coming to these meetings. We're also a member of the National PTA organization, a hundred years. We have made progress in this policy. We really really support it because it support it's it it support our goals of advocacy

097and our goals of engagement. There are a couple of areas that I would like to highlight if if given the opportunity. Line 17 where it says engagement and effective communications. I would ask that we add meaningful two-way communication that is consistent with the national pillars of the PTA. That's line 17. Uh moving down to line 24 where it talks about a sustainable system. I want to put a truth theorem out there. The sustainable system that the PTA and PTSA are talking about are the 140 nonprofit units that are part of the PTA. A sustainable system are the 3 million plus members of the PTA nationwide and those of us in counties all over this country who advocate on behalf of students. We are just grateful to have the opportunity and have a cooperative partnership with

098Baltimore County Public Schools and this board as we move into a new del a new era of PTAs. It's no longer our moms and dads organizations. We're not talking about bake seals and brownies. We are talking about the literal survival of public education. Please, we support this policy. We hope you will do the same. Thank you. And thank you to all of our speakers tonight. Miss Licer, how about the young teacher from Nottingham? Was she selected or not selected or selected for the policy? What was she? I think she meant to sign up for the citizens the public speak and we had five and her name wasn't I did two off the waiting list and then there wasn't. So there's not no openings for that young woman. No, but thank you for asking. Next on

099the agenda is our um superintendence report or your last one and for that I call on Dr. Rogers. Thank you madam chair licker me lictor members of the board. I'm pleased to present my June and final report to the board of education. Uh before I begin, I want to share a special graduation video that captures the heart of this moment uh that many of you uh witnessed over the last two weeks where we had 24 graduations, 7,000 graduates, um our students and all that they have accomplished. Please play the video. Take a moment to feel the pride of the last 13 years. Every challenge you pushed through, every lesson that stretched you. Every moment that you chose to keep going, it all brought you here. Congrats, class of 2026. Class of 2026, we did it.

100Class of 2026, we out of here. We did it. Congratulations, class of 2026. Today feels amazing. It also feels really surreal. I mean, I've been a part of BCPS since preK, so this is my 14th year here. Hi. Just feels really great to be here with all my classmates, be with this group of people for the last time. I wasn't really sure coming in how I'd feel, but now that I'm here, I feel calm. I feel confident. I feel excited. Graduation to me really seems like the summation of the last 17 years. People say that try living up your high school years or years in general and it goes by fast. They weren't lying. It's really, really quick. But I I'm glad that I was able to go through it and meet a whole lot

101of new friends, teachers, staff, the people that really just empowered my life. Graduates, over the past four years, your class has demonstrated talent, resilience, and excellence in every corner of our school community. There you go. The past few years haven't been easy for you. You faced challenges both inside and outside the classroom. But whatever it took, you made it here. These seniors have met all of the requirements set forth by Baltimore County Public Schools and the state of Maryland. I hear nothing. Class of 2026, our world needs good people. People who work hard, care deeply, and lift those around them. And you have shown us that you are those people. One, two, three. Heat. Honestly, it feels amazing. Like through all the struggles and my perseverance, I felt like finally being able to turn my

102tassel on and getting my diploma. It was just an amazing feeling. The person that's on here is my grandpa. Uh what he meant to me was he was a great person. Uh he died my freshman year of high school when we were going in. Uh he was there for everything when I first started to learn how to play sports, soccer, track, baseball, everything. We've had great memories. I miss him every day. I'm doing this for him. Very proud of my twin daughters. Congratulations. You've got tools to take on anything you want to do. We're very proud of you. We love you. It was very nice, you know, during my high school career. A lot of challenges and whatnot, but I'm excited. What's to come though? We did it. Class of 2026, CLASS OF 2023, WE

103OUT. Thank you. And I also extend a final thank you to BCPS TV and the wonderful communications team for their incredible work capturing the BCPS story and providing equitable access to communities. As we watch our graduates cross the stage, we are reminded that this moment marks both an ending and a beginning. But to truly appreciate it, we must look back to where each student's story began. It begins in preK, where we have expanded access by more than 2,100 seats in under three years, ensuring that more of our youngest learners, especially those from economically disadvantaged backgrounds, start school ready to learn, grow, and thrive. Their journey continues through highquality curriculum, excellent teaching, and meaningful learning experiences. Over the last three years, we have worked with intention to implement state aligned curriculum, strengthen instructional practices through skillful

104teacher training, and ensure that every classroom offers rigorous, engaging opportunities for students to excel. Their journey is supported by our investments in reducing chronic absenteeism and our unwavering commitment to social emotional wellness through expanded mental health services and direct supports offered in our community schools. We have worked to ensure that every child feels seen, valued, and supported. Their journey is uplifted by more than 800 community partners who invest in our students every single day. Their generosity, collaboration, and belief in our children have strengthened our ability to meet student needs and open doors to new possibilities. And their journey is broadened through exposure to higher education and future partnerships. Partnerships such as those with CCBC, including dual enrollment for more than 6,000 classes and direct admit with Dr. Curtinitis, have helped students envision what is possible

105and take tangible steps towards college, career, and lifelong success. Tonight, I also want to express my heartfelt gratitude. Thank you to our educators, support staff, administrators, and central office team whose dedication makes this work possible. I want to thank personally the people who are in the audience with us this evening after working long days. I am especially grateful to the members of cabinet who are seated here. a very small uh pidey uh excuse me mighty powerful team um who has been a working cabinet from day one. Um special shout out to my uh chief and chief of staff who is back uh Mildred Charlie Green. Want to thank you. Want to thank Dr. Just Grim. Want to thank Homer McCall. Want to thank Dr. Raquel Jones. Um want to uh thank Whit Tantliff for all

106of your hard work with the budget. I am especially uh appreciative to you Dr. Dr. Jennifer Molenac, uh, chief academic officer. Appreciative to all of you for the partnership. Um, I want to, uh, also thank my mentor who is in the audience driving in the evening this evening, uh, who forced me many years ago to be very clear about what my vision was for students, Miss Brills, who had a long uh, history in Baltimore County Public Schools, former principal here. Thank you to all of our families, community members, and partners for your ongoing collaboration and steadfast. And most importantly, thank you to our students. 108,000 reasons why we do this work. I believed in you from day one, and you have shown me time and time again that my belief was well placed. When I

107was appointed superintendent three years ago, the charge was clear. reverse more than a decade trajectory of academic decline in BCP. Together, we embrace that challenge. While there is still certainly much more work to do, our community was clear about the need for forward progress. Through extensive data review, the work of a transition team and countless conversations directly with stakeholders across the county, four priorities emerged and we worked on those four priorities as they became our shining light over the last three years. Despite what may be reported on social media or individual thoughts, the facts are the facts. Our facts have all been externally validated by markers at the state and national level and are truly indicative of the collective effort of students. Together, we built systems to examine our practices with honesty and rigor. We

108partnered with experts, grounded decisions in research, and strengthened our structures for monitoring progress, reviewing data regularly and focusing intentionally on outcomes for all student groups. We cultivated relationships across education, business, government, and the broader community, resulting in stronger collaboration, open communication, and greater alignment around shared goals. Because of this collective effort, we have made meaningful progress in a relatively short time. Again, while there is always more work ahead, I am proud that students today in BCPS have access to opportunities, supports, and experiences that simply did not exist three years ago. The progress we see belongs to all of us and can continue with conditions conducive to success if all people are truly working for the collective good. I am also honored that this work has been recognized beyond Baltimore County. Serving on a national platform

109with school system leaders from across the country, particularly through AASA's work to advance women in educational leadership is a privilege. I look forward to continuing to advocate for public education in the year ahead. BCPS is well poised for continued success because of the people who make up this organization and the deep commitment that exists throughout this community by hardworking individuals. The foundation is strong, the direction is clear, and the future is bright. As I conclude my tenure, I do so with immense gratitude and pride. Thank you for your support, your partnership, and your belief in students. I'm incredibly proud of what we have accomplished and even more proud of the young people who inspire us every day. Personally, I am looking forward to spending more time with my family, including my heart, my four children,

110my grandbaby, while cheering BCPS on from a different seat. I am immensely grateful for loved ones who have walked every step of the way with me, and the prayers and love of my mom. 30 years ago, I began in BCPS as a chemistry teacher at Woodlon High School, and I will always cherish that time that made the power of education and my love of learning come alive in others. School, as my mom often says, is open for everyone, and education is the key to success. I will always be a proud supporter of team BCPS and an advocate for public education, and I am grateful for the opportunity to have served this community. Thank you. and I wish each one of you the very best in the years ahead. Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Rogers. And

111next is the chair's report. And I'm also going to start with two thank yous and goodbyes. First to Miss Foresight Unambe, our 2526 student member of the board for all of your work this year. While navigating and excelling in her senior year of high school, she also took on the responsibilities of being a productive, articulate, visible, and inspiring board member. She attended many activities and events outside of the scheduled BOE meetings. She helped lead during difficult times while never losing focus on representing her 108,000 fellow students. We know she will be successful in whatever her future holds and we wish her all the best as she takes her immediate next step as a college student. Thank you foresight. As we recognize Dr. Rogers, we do so with thanks for the vision, commitment, and care she

112has brought to BCPS. Dr. Rogers helped stop the achievement decline and led the important work of improving outcomes for students. Those results did not happen by chance. They happened because of thoughtful leadership, a clear focus on student success, and an unwavering belief that every child can achieve at high levels when the right support is in place. What has set her apart is her deep understanding of instruction, teaching, and learning, and the systems and structures that make lasting improvement possible. She's also been a visible and steady presence in our community. Time and again, she has stood out front listening, leading, communicating, and representing this district. And perhaps what has been most inspiring of all is the genuine pride she takes in watching our students succeed. You can see it in the way she speaks about them,

113the way she shows up for them, and the joy she feels when they reach their goals. That pride is real. It reflects a leader who has never lost sight of why this work matters. Thank you, Dr. Rogers, for your service, your leadership, and your deep belief in the potential of every student. Thank you for the progress you have helped BCPS make. We are stronger because of your leadership and we are better because of your work. We wish you every success and every joy in the next chapter of your life. Congratulations again and thank you. And then our superintendent search is progressing. Our search firm Ray and Associates reviewed over 40 applications. Um this week the board of ed is conducting first round interviews and our finalist will be announced um by the beginning of next

114week if not sooner. A town hall to meet the finalists is scheduled for June 16th at 6:30 at the Carver Center for Arts and Technology. Additional details about this event were shared with the public today. Interviews with our finalists will take place on June 17th. More than 50 panelists will participate in those interviews. Thank you to the community members who have completed the survey on the qualities of our next superintendent, attended the forums or public hearings, and expressed interest in serving on our finalist interview panels. We appreciate and value the public's engagement in this very important process. And as a 2526 school year comes to a close, I want to take a moment to thank our wonderful teachers and staff for all that you have done throughout the current school year. Your hard work, patience,

115and dedication have made a difference in the lives of our students. Whether you're teaching in the classroom, supporting behind the scenes, keeping our school safe, organized, and welcoming, or encouraging students when they need it most, your efforts have meant so much to the students of BCPS. On behalf of the board, thank you for your dedication, compassion, and the care you bring to your work. We wish you all a restful, and welldeserved summer. and to all the BCPS retirees. We are deeply grateful for all you have done during your career and tenure with BCPS. Retirement is a huge step and I wish everyone the best on their next journey. You never know what may be in store for you and where you may land. And next on our agenda is Miss Unab's list, student member of

116the board report. Thank you. Good evening, Chair Licter, Superintendent Rogers, members of the board, staff, families, and the BCPS community. As I as I deliver my final report as the 45th student member of the board, I find myself reflecting not on the meetings attended, reports given, or initiatives completed, but on the people who made this year so meaningful. So, instead of my usual reports, I would like to acknowledge some of you. Serving as mob has been one of the greatest honors. From the moment I was elected, I understood that this role was bigger than me. It was about representing over one thou 100,000 students and carrying their voices into rooms where decisions made are made and ensuring that students remained at the center of every conversation. This year challenged me, stretched me and taught me

117more than I could ever imagine. First to my fellow board members, thank you for welcoming me to this table. Thank you for listening to student perspectives and allowing me to learn alongside each of you. This experience has given me a greater appreciation for the complexity of educational leadership and the responsibility that comes with serving a community as diverse and dynamic as Baltimore County. I also want to extend a special thank you to Mrs. Gover. Behind every meeting, agenda, and schedule change and any last minute and last minute questions was someone making sure everything stayed organized and on track. Thank you. I want to thank the Baltimore County student councils to students who showed up month after month attending meetings, sharing ideas, and advocating for change and believe in the power of student voice. Thank you.

118A special thank you to our adviser, Mrs. Wade. Your dedication to students is unmatched. BCSC is stronger because of your leadership and belief in students. I would also like to thank Mrs. Oijala, Mr. Bazemore, Mrs. Charlie Green and a bunch of staff for every check-in, conversation, every word of encouragement, every moment spent making sure I was supported throughout this journey. To BCPS TV, thank you for your partnership throughout the year. Whether it was filming projects, creating content, or simply making the process enjoyable. You helped bring student voice to life in ways that reach thousands across the county. Some of my favorite memories from this year came from the work we did together. I would also like to thank some of our former SMOs, Christian and Ugma. Long before I officially stepped into this role, you

119both made yourselves available to answer questions, provide guidance, and offer support. I'm incredibly grateful for the foundation you helped build and the little trinklets you left behind. Some of those small traditions became reminders that none of us serve in this role alone. And in that same spirit, I'll be leaving behind a tiny red bear for our next mob, Claire. Claire, Claire, you are stepping into a role that is both challenging and incredibly rewarding. I know you will bring your own unique perspective, passion, and leadership to this position, and I'm excited to see the impact you will make. To the superintendent's cabinet and all of central office, thank you for your commitment to our students. Throughout this year, I've had the opportunity to learn about the countless efforts that happen behind the scenes every day. While

120much of this work is never seen by students, it plays a critical role in shaping our schools and supporting our success. To our teachers, staff, bus drivers, custodians, counselors, administrators, and every individual who contributes to BCPS. Thank you. You are often the first faces students see in the morning and the people who help us navigate some of our most important years. Your impact extends far beyond the classroom. I also want to thank my school, Eastern Tech High School. Eastern Tech has supported me every step of the way, from my teachers and administrators to my classmates and friends. You encouraged me when the workload became overwhelming and celebrated every success along the way. I am proud to represent a school that values leadership, service, and community. To the BCPS community as a whole, thank you for

121trusting me with this responsibility. Whether I met you during school visits, board meetings, or events, every interaction helped shape my understanding about what it means to lead and serve. To my fellow seniors, congratulations. We have spent years growing, learning, failing, succeeding, and finding ourselves within these schools. As we prepare to move on to the next chapter, I hope we carry with us the knowledge, relationships, lessons, and experiences that shaped who we are. And lastly, to Dr. Rogers, as you prepare to retire, I want to thank you for your continuous support throughout this year. Your willingness to engage with students and listen to our perspectives have le has left a lasting impact on me. I'm grateful for every school visit, conversation, piece of advice, and opportunity I've had to learn from your leadership. Your impact on

122BCPS will be felt for years to come. And I wish you nothing but success and happiness in this next chapter. Before I close, I'd like to leave the board with one final thought. Continue to do better. This year, I've learned that leadership isn't measured by titles, votes, or who wins an argument. It's measured by character. It's measured by how you treat people when you disagree with them. It's measured by your willingness to listen, collaborate, and put the mission before yourself. Our students deserve leaders who respect model professionalism and integrity, not just when it's easy, but especially when it's difficult. They deserve a board that remains focused on serving students above all else. As you continue this work, I challenge each of you to lead with humility, lead with authenticity, and lead with a genuine commitment

123to one another and to the students you serve because our students are watching and they deserve your very best. And for the last time, thank you. Thank you for allowing me the privilege of serving as your 45th student member of the board. It has been an honor. I will carry with me for the rest of my life. Thank you. Okay. The next item on the agenda is unfinished business um about the budget. Um the board approved a postponement of a motion from the May 19th meeting. The motion was made by Mr. McMillian and second by Miss Dleski and it said that BCPS reallocate up to 3.6 6 million from the fund balance to fund library media specialists in our secondary schools to allow for the removal of additional instructional assignments including advisory. This reallocation shall

124be done in a way that does not lead to additional staffing cuts or to decrease compensation package. So that is the motion that we have postponed. And to begin the discussion, I'll turn to Dr. Rogers. Thank you. Uh Dr. Gman and Mr. Tantliff are already here. Miss Gover, there are three slides um that I just shared the link with you. I'm not sure if they were shared earlier. Okay. Um as they prepare to post the slides, wanted to share some um context that was uh requested of us and turn it over to um Dr. Grim and Mr. uh Tantlift to speak to uh circulation as well as uh fiscal potential fiscal imple impact uh critical context. BCPS employs 51 secondary library media specialists. Um BCPS also employs 110 elementary library media specialists who teach full-time.

125Uh we want to make it clear uh to the community that um the purpose the sole purpose has been about students trying to help mitigate increased class sizes in secondary schools uh by a certified teacher um only in their content area aligned with other roles that we have in the school system. Um this recommendation was brought forward uh several years in a row uh directly from secondary principles who provided this input. Um again the uh proposal was to teach two classes out of eight leaving six unassigned sections. uh and no teaching responsibilities during lunch to ensure open access to all uh students during the time that is the most busy in media centers across the school system. Uh with that I think the slides are up almost okay Dr. Grim will share information about circulation.

126So good evening. Um this information again will be in print and available to you. Uh so we pulled some uh circulation data from our uh library media centers. Uh the circulation data is related specifically out of Destiny to print material. So it is it is books. Um it includes any checkouts by our staff um by our by our students. So if a teacher um pulls a cart together to to bring to their classroom, this would be inclusive of that. Any student materials that are checked out again by print. So it's not electronic uh circulation. Next slide please. Dr. Rogers spoke to that side. So um to give you a sense, our elementary schools um had a circulation of over 1.5 million print materials this year from August through uh May the 27th, which was the

127last week of May. Our middle schools uh had a circulation of uh just over 61,000 and our high schools just over 49,000 in print materials. And our other schools um which would include the the shared resource at at Sparrow's Point and our special schools in VL was just over 14,000 materials. Um again, this includes uh student, faculty and and staff checkout and print material only. So, it's not any other types of digital resources. Next slide. Uh, Mr. Tantliff is going to go through what the impact um would be on on the fund balance um if this request were granted. Thank you. Uh board members, you may be familiar with the format of this chart. Uh we've just uh tweaked it to address the proposal at hand tonight. So you can see on the left uh

128is where we increase the use of fund balance in this was that's the assumption for where the revenue would come from by $3.6 million. And on the right uh you have what we'll call our sustainable plan with a glide path to get down even in the next several years to $30 million of annual fund balance usage. Um we're uh right now going to have a significant increase in fund balance usage in FY27 proposed over 26. Um and the extra 3.6 million would represent a 32.3% increase over FY26 up to 41.8%. So an additional uh just about 10%. And what you can see in the chart is our uh fund balance usage. So on the right is what our current plan is. Uh we have 50 million in 27 and you can see we step it

129down by $5 million a year. And we believe 30 million uh of annual usage of fund balance is a sustainable level and will leave us uh um a safety amount of fund balance in the bank for emergencies that may come up or any other contingencies. Um we'd like that to stay close to 50 million. Uh 40 to 50 million range is probably acceptable. You can see on the left uh all the assumptions are static and this is a very simple apples to apples example. You can see the use of fund balance uh starts off with the additional 3.6 million and also ramps down by 5 million a year. But by 2032, there's only $20 million of fund balance remaining, which would be a dangerously low level that uh you know, if we if our spending

130is high one year, uh if our variance is very low, uh our fund balance could be driven close to zero. Uh next slide, please. And the next two slides, uh they're just blowups of the two charts I showed you. So this is the higher risk chart. Um and the you can see that the impact I talked over uh the different um negative effects of this uh the potential gap eventually is going to need to be covered through a budget cut or additional revenue. Again, this example static and fairly simple just to just show you things apples to apples. And it's a similar format to what we uh reviewed during the uh work session on the budget. And the last slide is our s our sustainability which is a priority and I think everyone here would

131agree with that. Um a fiscally conservative use of fund balance allows for predictable recurring um revenue stream. It allows flexibility and as I mentioned our goal is to reduce usage back to 30 million a year. And that concludes our pages. Thank you. Thank you. Questions, Miss Hen. Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you, Mr. Tantliff, for the presentation. Um, if we could display slide three, the two charts that you um talked about, the sustainable plan versus the proposed use of 3.6 million? Yes. Thank you. Um, is the 3.6 the only delta between the two charts? Yes. Everything else is static. just fund balance usage um is starts at it's 3.6 million more every year. Everything else stays the same, but obviously the year-end balance drops more quickly because we're using fund balance more quickly. So

132that's an assumption that we're unable to absorb that 3.6 in subsequent operating budgets from another source that we would have to use fund balance in years beyond 27. Well, uh, no matter what happens, the the example is static. So, whatever other revenue we could get, we could get anyway. All assumptions are the same. So, this is just really showing a relative difference between the two scenarios. A lot of different things could happen. Revenue could be better than expected. Enrollment might start shooting up and drive positive revenue. um are we might have this would be sort of unfortunate but we could have an especially high turnover rate which causes positive variance. This is again just a very simple static example showing the difference between the two scenarios in as basic a way as we could really

133lay out that there's a million different things that could happen in the future. I certainly acknowledge that. Okay. So I I thank you for clarifying that it's use using assumes that we need to use 3.6 in each subsequent year versus a one-time use of 3.6 which is really the motion that's proposed. So if if that were the only delta, we'd only be looking at a 37.8 year end balance in 2032. Um I'm sorry, reduced by 3.6 versus the 19.8 in your worst case scenario. Yeah. So, but yes, that assumes you you're going to get 3.6 more in more million more than you would have under any other circumstance. So, somehow we're going to get 3.6 million specifically for this initiative. It would. However, the motion that the board um is considering is only a one-time

134request. It's not We can always make adjustments yeartoear. This is an adjustment for the upcoming fiscal year. It's not to say in perpetuity we're going to fund this. So if we don't identify the revenue we could adjust this and not use fund balance in subsequent years. So what you're pro what you're showing is really the um long-term plan of using fund balance each and every year until 2032. Correct. Which is not what the board has proposed. We're we're propo what Mr. McMillian proposed is a one-time use to cover us through next year. You know, in a simple sense though, what that would mean is next year you would need to cut these same 3.6 million from somewhere in the budget because certainly this initiative is not going to generate additional revenue. So whatever revenue we're

135going to get next year is going to be identical whether this uh motion gets approved or not. So no matter what, our position would be $3.6 $6 million worse going into 28 that we would have to solve in the budget in some way, shape, or form. Absolutely understand into 20 into 28. So, I don't think the intent for the board is to encumber that long-term obligation of using fund balance year-over-year. I could be wrong and I'll allow Mr. McMillion to speak to his motion, but it's I don't believe the intent is to use fund balance until 2032 each year of the 3.6. there's opportunity to identify cost savings. There's opportunity, as you said, we could um encounter additional revenues to cover that. There are multiple possibilities. So, I just wanted to be clear that the

136intent of the motion is not to use fund balance through every year through 2032, but rather to use it for one year. Thank you, Madam Chair. But I just want to add one last thing. No matter what, our expense base will be 3.6 6 million higher in perpetuity unless something gets cut, including these positions or something else. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Taylor. Thank you, Mr. Young. Mr. Taylor, the part that I think we're missing is we're we're starting with using 3.6 out of fund balance, but once we do that, that then locks us into that number as part of maintenance of effort, right? So every year going forward we are stuck with we are we will have that unless we do something like cut. Correct. Uh yes because our you have a essentially think

137of it as like a mini funding cliff. You either have to use fund balance or something else as another revenue source to plug that in or you would have a gap. So what you said is correct. Thank you, Mr. Rillian. Mr. Tantliff, would you agree that the charts that you create, are they hypothetical kind of things? Uh, they're not hypothetical, but they're static and simple. They're based on our current position. They're based on a reasonable projection for uh our our um expense variance per year. Certainly, our expense variance is not going to be identical year after year after year. it it's really meant to just show the difference between the two scenarios. That's the key point is you're cumulative cumulatively spending an additional 3.6. I think all I was saying is whatever whatever the blueprint

138formula says we're going to get in 28 based on our enrollment this year in September. Um based on what the county can fund above maintenance of effort or above year ago, those numbers will not be different. based on whether we do this initiative or not. Okay. But all of those are unknowns, right? Correct. But they will be the same regardless of whether this motion passes or not. Okay. Now, I'm I'm concerned about my time, but all along there's been a question about this 3.6 being less, you know, is that, you know, what is the actual figure to for the for those librarians to stay out two periods to to stay in the library two periods? What's the actual number? Um, I think when uh staffing went through it, they thought 36 positions would be required.

139They could relook at it again, but that that was where the figure came from. They thought systemwide for secondary 36 additional teachers would be required. That's what that figure is based on. Now, I had people say to me that it was it was it was in the 100.8 eight range or something like that positions. No, no, no, no, no. The the money to actually fund that 100,000. No, no, no, no. 1.8 million. Well, versus the 3.6. It was something less than the 3.6. It's just what people were staff, Mr. McMillian. Excuse me. These were our staff. No. Okay. It was librarian people that have figured it calculated some way. So, the calculations were different. Okay. I I want to take a second in what I've got time left and I want to read read something

140that somebody sent to me today real quick. For the 26 27th school year, I've been assigned to teach. Of course, I can't. God, it's ninth grade something. Ninth grade. Ninth grade English. My certifications are in elementary education and library media. I'm certified to teach I'm not certified to teach in secondary English language arts. At the same time, certified English teachers are being assigned to teach elective courses. So, you know, there's something else where people are now I I have to take this for what it says that people are being assigned classes that are not certified in and that's something we've talked about wouldn't be done and right here's an example of it's being done. So, so there's a lot of information out there that I I just don't know how accurate it is and and

141whether you know the long-term versus the short term versus the 3.6 versus the one point whatever. I mean, I think it's really interesting that a variety of information out there. Thank you. Go ahead, Dr. Rogers. Yes. Uh, thank you, Mr. McMillian, for reading that email. Um, as I indicated, we have 51 secondary media specialists. Um, if you received that, uh, one email. I would either, if you're comfortable, you share the email so someone can follow up with the principal because, uh, the guidance that's out is very clear. it is supposed to be aligned to the area of certification and I believe we've sent that to the board of education not only to the area of certification or a class that holds no certification requirement. So that's clearly uh something that would need to be addressed.

142Okay. So in a case like what I shared, where would that person be placed if they're not certified? Elementary education and library media services. They would be placed either if they if they're in a upper level school and they're library media specialists. We have several classes that don't require a certification. Um, and in that communication that we sent to the board maybe two weeks or four weeks ago, we listed what those courses were. Thank you. You're welcome, Mr. Dleski. Thank you. And thank you to fellow board members for your comments. Um, I also am a little perplexed about the 3.9 million and and just because there's been different numbers that have been floating around, but like for 51 secondary library media specialists that teach two periods. So it would be 102 periods that have to

143be covered. So then if you take that each full-time teacher, you know, 1.0 know teaches five periods a day, it would be roughly 20 teachers to cover. So then if you take that each of those 20 teachers makes approximately $100,000 a year, then that would be about 2 million. And I and I know I'm dealing with general numbers, but so many different financial impacts have have floated around. So thank you for your clarification. Uh so again we could take that back to um HR staffing uh position management provided us with those details when they took a look at it. There's um a variety of schedules at the secondary level. Um it would also due to the contracts there has to be planning time that's that's involved and so forth. So um I think it would

144be we would need to be very careful with any math. um they're the ones that provided us um as they do in position management the 36 positions as Mr. Tantliff said we do equate 36 positions at at roughly $100,000 per position uh on average whe whether that's through salary and benefits and that's how we've arrived at the $3.6 million but that's quite frankly a a question for um for staffing. Great. Thank you and thank you for your um clarification with that response. And then just one other comment regarding overall what um this would require. Um in addition to teaching those two periods per day, the teachers do have to do planning, grading, communication with parents, documentation, data analysis, and a variety of other tasks. So just that is something you know just for us all

145to consider is that it in addition to the two periods of true instruction time or those variety of tasks that all teachers complete. Thank you. Sorry, Mr. Demanowski. I just want to clarify and that the library and teachers are not receiving any increase in salary for taking on these two additional classes that would equate to $3.6 million. Is that your I'm not aware of any additional salary as they're being paid as teachers already or on the teacher scale. Whatever their base salary is is not going to change when they take on the two additional that is correct. It would be within their normal duty days. So, um the federal government just released about $30 million in IDA funds. Has that been added back to the budget? the the the funds that are being held from

146IDEIDA, from the federal government, are are we adding those back into the budget? I'm I'm not familiar with the 30 million you're referring to, but I can follow up with special ed. I mean, we have IDA planned at what we expected to receive in the budget. Uh I haven't heard about it rece materially more than that but it it's a grant and we will uh plan and spend exactly what we're awarded for that grant. Are they going to adjust the numbers in the IDA grant to match what actually fits what be I'm sorry. Is there a problem? Okay. it it'll grants are all unknown when the budget gets proposed and adopted. I mean they get known along the way right grants have different award dates and uh for grants whatever the final award is that

147is what the program manager will plan to but so there is a possibility that those grants would come to fruition and we'd have more money and so that 3.6 6 million that we're taking out from library and not reimbursing them for the extra we would we could have it well well the example you gave would not be uh relevant for that because IDA only pays for specific special education services but couldn't some money that we were giving to special ed services through the general fund be moved in that sense uh there are times where we can swap out funds but you know, the situation would need to be looked at. There there have been opportunities where we've been able to put people on grants to free up uh general fund, but those are limited and

148we have to make sure we don't violate any rules of the grant. So, just for an example, I know I'm probably running low on time, but like third bill third party billing, it seems that we we only supposed to have one FTA FTEA there, right? We only pay one person in in third party billing. Uh, no. We pay a lot of special ed positions out of third party building, right? So, couldn't we do that? That's what I'm saying. Like, it just I don't understand why we couldn't figure out how to pay special ed. I know we do put some special education money from our general funds to cover what we don't get from the IDA. If we get that, we will be able to pay our the the vast majority of special ed spending is

149from the general fund. Probably 90% of it. Okay. Maybe a little less than 90, but the vast majority. I mean, we we have all the grants planned out to fully spend to in in this case to support special education. I I don't know if it's going to come in more than planned, but I think special ed always feels like they don't have enough money to uh I'm not trying to take money away from special. I'm just saying that there's there's there there's a possibility that there's more money in grants that we're not we we're not prepared for or we're not we're not accounting for right now. And that's true. There is also possibilities there there's less. So, I I think we would have to take a look at what the award was compared to what

150they've already budgeted um or prepared for in the budget. And it was significantly less this year than last year because we were concerned about the ID about federal funding being withheld. That That's all. Thank you. Did you want to respond? Um okay, Miss Pumprey, you haven't spoken on this yet. I have two questions and a comment. Um, my first question is about the wording of this motion as as it's on the script. Is that the exact wording because I don't see dates in there or years, Miss Gover? Yes, that was taken from the last meeting and there are no dates in there. Okay. And my second question or it may be a comment um is the wording of the motion also says reallocate up to 3.6 million. So, if for some reason, my reading of

151this, and if I'm misunderstanding, somebody can let me know. My reading of the wording of this motion would mean that if for some reason that 3.6 million was inaccurate and it was lower, we wouldn't have to use that much from the enterprise fund or if we found money somewhere else through whatever means that could decrease the 3.6 million as well. So, that this motion allows for that um adjustment as necessary. Would everybody agree with that? Okay. And just one last comment. Um my concern is less with whether or not um this particular motion I have an I have an issue with our original motion and the way that was put forward with with the budget um to the county executive for whatever reason. No one to blame. Whether it's the way the the board members

152um worded the motion, whether it was the way the budget was presented, um I think the will of the board, the intention of the board was clear. Um and and the motion did pass regardless of how I feel about the issue at this moment. The will of the board was that that this was to happen. Um and I would be saying that whether I voted yes or no on the first motion. So um I'm taking that in into consideration when I'm um considering my vote for this motion as well. Um, I think in the future that we definitely need to look at the way we're wording our motions and the way that we're presenting our budget to make sure that when board members make motions to adjust the budget and those motions are approved by

153the board. Whether you disagree or not, your vote was yes or no, that is a board decision as we always discuss. When we make a decision when we vote on a motion, it's a board decision after that's done whether or not you agree with it or not. Um, and that's part of what I'm taking into consideration when I um decide on this motion tonight. Thank you. Thank you. Dr. Rogers, did you have something to say? No. Okay. I'm sorry, Miss. Um I'm just trying to get people who haven't spoken yet. Um M Gome. Yeah. Um I just had a quick question for Dr. Rogers. So within my experience in high school and everything, our our library media specialists have always taught um courses in addition to being a library media specialists. So I just wanted

154to know if that was like an out of the ordinary occurrence or something that just doesn't happen. and I just wanted to hear from you and your experience. Uh depending on the school, some library media specialists uh teach regularly. It was not uh consistent across team BCPS and over the last few years again to mitigate class sizes. Um, we solicited input directly from our secondary administrators of where there was room um to have certified classroom teachers uh in the classroom with students to reduce class sizes and not minimize uh offerings uh to the students. All right. Thank you. I just wanted to make sure that like it had happened in the past and everything. So, thanks for that. Okay, Miss Hen, thank you. I think I've have 25 seconds, so I'll be fast. Okay. Um

155so my colleague was asking about um federal funds being reduced in this year's budget. And I believe what she was referring to were um title one in IDA. There was a reduction of 29.6 to um conservatively project an anticipated reduction in federal funds. Um what we found out um was that Congress passed full funding and I had asked about um adjusting the 27 budget to account for that and I don't believe that adjustment happened. Can you confirm or or deny that that adjustment took place? Uh, Miss, we actually did take that into account. We work with the county executive and uh I'm 90 plus% sure that we that the uh that the title one grant did get increased uh somewhat over what was the proposed budget. Do you do you know what that number was?

156Not I don't have it in the top of my head. more than 3.6. What's 3.6? More than the motion being discussed. Uh potentially, yes. And when we last discussed it, we were talking about how that could potentially be reallocated because we were using operating funds, the general fund to fund those programs while we um were unsure about the status of special revenues. Uh I I don't recall saying that. Okay. Thank you. Tit and title one's highly restrictive. So if the grant gets reduced then the primarily the number of teachers supported by the grant would be reduced. So um title one even though they were preparing for the worst they no teachers would have been displaced until they found out that they needed to be displaced because the grant came in lower. So after having that

157conversation, Miss Stanbury looked at it again and felt comfortable increasing it by several million dollars over what was in the proposed budget and the county executive incorporated that and and where were the would where would I find those numbers? Which version of the the budget as of It would be in the adopted book. The adopted does reflect that. Okay. It's the adopted book hasn't been published yet, but it will be in there. Thank you. I think I'm out of time. Okay, Miss Frmpung. So, I've heard about these funds um that may potentially be available to us and if they're available to us, then there's the money, I guess, that we're looking for potentially. I don't know because we're seeing slides just tonight about the differences and then also hearing new information about these funds as

158well as there's a budget book that hasn't been published. So, I like to deal with numbers. I'm a visual person. I like to see things. Are we able to get that information? Are we able to see and understand how much is this extra money that's coming from the government? How much of that can be taken applied to the special education? How much does that leave us available? And then we have a better understanding of maybe is there some of that money left over that can then cover these positions, these LMS positions. Well, I mean, the funds you're referring to are all restricted grants. So, restricted grants have specific rules on how the funds get spent. Uh, I'd be speaking out of turn uh to say how uh, you know, if there was an opportunity, a

159title one especially is very very well, they're all very restrictive. So, um, where there's opportunities to, uh, take some positions off the general fund onto a grant, uh, we do that. I I couldn't speak to whether there's an opportunity to do that or not. I don't know if we've received the final awards yet. So, when and right, I we I'm not asking for us to do anything that's going to make us out of compliance. I understand these things are very restrictive, but if we haven't done any brainstorming yet and we don't know, how then can we make the decisions without fully knowing that information? Um, I I can't answer that question. I think if I was a board member, I think the consideration is use 3.6 million of fund balance. That's the only definite option

160you have on the table. We could go look at grants. I think it's unlikely we're going to find significant amount of money that can be swapped out. There's a lot of needs for those grants. Um, and that would take some time to do. So, I'm not sure, you know, when that information, you know, the it's a scattered uh group of information you're uh requesting. So, I I can't really respond to it here. Dr. Rogers, would you be able to respond, I guess, with like if we were interested in that information, a time frame? Yes. Um, so a few things that I was looking up. Uh, the first thing that I just want to make clear to the, uh, viewing public is, uh, there has been no extra money for IDA announced by the, um, state

161of Maryland or our state association. and the most recent communication with them was the end of the week. Um, this is uh correctly stated from Mr. Tantliff in terms of title one uh being restrictive and the information that I have specifically from our title one office is that the additional funding was less than $3.6 $6 million and it would be supplanting to use the funding uh for these positions. As was stated, uh Miss Stanberry uh spoke uh clearly about the concern about having fewer additional teachers to support in title one schools. So that's above the um staffing formulas that we provide from the operating budget. the additional funding um allowed for that not to be the case to the uh extent that uh she provided uh feedback when she came to present in front of

162the board as well as Mr. um Tantliff a few uh months ago. uh please pardon me for uh looking down but they're sending messages as this conversation is happening and uh just want to make it very clear to everyone um while it is hypothetical that enrollment can boom, it is hyperthetical that millions of dollars can come forward um our data from the last three years uh in Baltimore County in the state and federal government indicate otherwise. Um, additionally, all of the work that has been done um, specifically on enrollment to find out the reasons uh, why uh, enrollment has not bounced back in its entirety uh, from COVID as well as the trends across the state. Um, I believe the student counts book is posted. It goes into out years and in that book it

163does not have enrollment bouncing back and again just want to uh bring back to everyone's awareness all formulas are based on the number of students that we have enrolled in school and again since uh I have the mic uh the purpose was to mitigate the impact of increased class sizes to uh respond to the stakeholders request uh for the full compensation package. package. So the purpose is never to um uh take some averse action towards a group of people. We have our athletic um directors. We have our reading specialists and a slew of other individuals who work in other capacities who are certified teachers who take on one to two classes in order to help mitigate that impact and have the best and brightest people in front of our students. Thank you. I think I

164saw other hands. Dr. Seavoy title your microphone on. Oh, sorry. That's okay. Are title one schools required to have a media specialist fulltime? All of our schools have one. Full time. Yes. Okay. All right. Thank you, Miss Pumphrey. I have a motion to amend. Go ahead. Um, I want to add between the words 'the' and fund 2026 2027 and after advisory for the 2026 2027 school year and I put in the chat the rewritten the motion um yeah the motion as amended. So okay so let me just read the motion. So um that BCPS reallocate up to 3.6 6 million from 20 from the 20 26 2027 year fund balance to fund library media specialists in our secondary schools to allow for the removal of additional instructional assignments including advisory for the 2026 2027 school

165year. This reallocation shall be done in a way that does not lead to additional staffing cuts or to decrease compensation package. And I believe Mr. McMillian second the amended motion. Do you want to talk to your amended motion? I just I think my comments earlier um reflected this. The motion itself and that's why I asked for clarification if that was what was in the script didn't reflect the school years. Um and so I think this also limits what we're doing to only pick only um have this in the budget for the coming upcoming school year so that we can reevaluate if necessary. um considering uh the the financial implic implications that were shown to us this evening. Okay. I just have one question. Um what about sustainability after this year? So we're just taking care

166of it for one year and then we'd have to come revisit it again. That to me that's a compromise. Um and again like I mentioned earlier, this is my my vote on this is because of what our original motion was for and the intention of that. And it's regardless of whether my vote was yes or no on the original motion. When the board votes on a motion and makes a decision, it then is our board's decision. And I think that we need to make sure that we're um remembering that when we make decisions moving forward. Okay. Thank you. There's Miss Hen. Um I have a Whoops. Sorry. I have a question and then a possible motion to amend the motion on the floor. My question is um do we need to specify the fiscal year

1672027 budget rather than the school year as it's a fiscal motion? And if so, I would make the motion to amend Miss Pumprey's motion so that it's crystal clear that we're talking about amending the fiscal year 2027 budget for clarity. And this might be a question from either Mr. Tandler or Mr. Burns so that it's crystal clear what the board is looking to do. So instead of saying 2026127, you're saying FY27 FY2027 budget. I'm fine with that change if we just can if I can just concede to that. Can she just consensus she can she? Okay. Okay. I'm fine with other discussion Mr. Young. So even if we do this once again it becomes part of maintenance of effort. So then the next year we would have to really figure out okay we've just allocated

168this money hired these people that we may not be able to sustain you know the other thing my colleagues were talking about the ID funding we can't just that's dedicated just for special ed so with that we can't just you know once again hire people to do library media specialist work And we don't even know if that is covering everything that we need to because the assumptions were made that maybe we pull people off the general fund and put them on that. But it may be a case of we may have more people on the general fund because that's not covering our needs also. Is that correct? Um Mr. to dive. Yes, there's a range of possibilities there, but I think it's unlikely that any IDA would be able to you be used this year

169to help solve this problem. So really talking about IDE and special ed funds is not even relevant to this conversation. My recommendation would be fund balance is the source to for consideration. That's the only thing we know is available, right? But whether that would be a sustainable option is Thank you, Miss Thank you. two comments in response to Mr. Young's comments. First of all, fund balance is primarily um due to turnover savings and vacancies. So, we wouldn't be looking at increasing maintenance of effort because we're not increasing maintenance of effort. We're using a fund balance that's comprised mostly of salaries that are um due to vac, you know, available. It's a savings um savings due to salaries that are already budgeted and part of maintenance of effort. Anyway, so we're not increasing maintenance of effort

170through this motion. My second comment is I looked up the numbers. The budget, the FY27 budget was reduced by 10 million for anticipated reduction in title one and idea formula funds. Um I have those numbers here if anybody is interested. So once those 10 million become available, um the discussion was around the fact that those programs were being funded out of the general fund. So we could reallocate those once they are moved to the grant and not immediately per se, but should we need to do those in the bat midyear that that would be available and we're not increasing our use of fund balance. You're you're I'm not clear on re when you refer to we're using general fund to pay for some of the grant. None of that is occurring. Then how are we

171paying for what paid for the grant this current year? because in FY26 our title one and idea um grant funding were 10 million greater than what we are projecting for FY27 when we know our federal funding is flat. So what I had asked when we were discussing the budget was how are we funding those programs that were funded on a grant this year when we're projecting a $10 million reduction in federal funds for FY27. And the response I recall and I could be wrong was that we are using general funds instead. The uh grant managers don't react until they know uh what the final grant amount is. They have carryover which gives them some flexibility that can vary. So there's a lot of different tools in their belt. Uh I believe the title one number

172though did increase over the figure that you're I think you're looking at the proposed budget number. And so in the adopted budget we did add uh what I I I don't know the exact figure, Miss uh Dr. Rogers may have got that from Miss Stanbury, but it was a few million dollars. So, it's a a little less than 10, but uh they're hoping that funding is flat to this year. And then, uh they'll deal with that once they know what the final figure is. But nothing got moved to the general fund budget. Nothing will be freed up if the grant comes in as expected. There may be less teachers hired over the summer, but I think we we would need to get feedback from the grant managers on exactly where uh things stand. But I

173don't believe any general fund will be freed up because of where the grants will finally come in. Okay. And it was 2.6 for IDA and 7.6 for title one were the numbers, right? And title one, I believe, is not dropping by that much now because it got increased for the adopted budget by the county executive by 7.6 and 2.6. Partway there. Okay. it and as Miss Fong said, it'll be helpful once we can see the adopted budget, but it sounds like we we do may have some some latitude, especially with the motion that's on the floor now to by Miss Pumprey to do this for one year and revisit it after that. Thank you. Think Mr. and I thought I saw but go ahead Mr. Tantle. So, the county executive passed the budget. The budget

174went over county council. They passed the budget. So that maintenance of effort that that final total that the county council approved that's our maintenance of effort for next year. Correct. Maintenance of effort only refers to local funding from the county. grants are not included in that and state revenue is not agreeing. But the county executive did increase um they did the adopted budget had a significant increase over the proposed budget by the county executive. superintendent was able to work with her and that's how we were able to restore elementary teacherto student ratios and they also covered some other gaps in health care and uh some shortfalls in the final state revenue number. Okay. So then it went to the county council and they passed it. Correct. Correct. Okay. So fund balance does that sit outside

175of that? Uh they approved 50 million of fund balance in the budget. So we can uh we've appropriated for FY27 $50 million of fund balance. So between fund balance and just talking about general fund, you have state revenue, county revenue, and fund balance and a teeny amount of federal revenue, which is really just for ROC. All that revenue is in balance with the general fund budget. The only thing that when they say maintenance effort, that only refers to county funding, the local amount that the county executive contribution that 3.6, if it were to be 3.6, that's not calculated in the maintenance of effort. You mean if you used fund balance for it, fund balance does not go into maintenance of effort. So, we don't have to worry about that. Okay. Thank you, Mleski. Thank you.

176Just very quickly, I just want to thank all the board members for the great questions regarding the financial clarification and thank you to Miss Pumphrey for your comments regarding the intention of the board when we made our original motion and then pass that motion uh several months ago. Thank you, Miss Fong. Um so I think I want to actually just speak on that piece of it. So, um I think it is clear that when the board makes a motion and we um approve motion by the majority of the board that that's what the board has an expectation. Um however, I do look at this somewhat different because this was budget season and the budget was going to the county executive and then it goes to county council. We know that's the process for the budget.

177And so for me, when we talked about our LMS's and adding this additional money, my thought was that this money was going to be um I guess covered by the money that we would get in the budget from county executive and county council. Um, so we did get the extra money for our elementary schools and keeping those class sizes lower, which we said, um, was a priority. We did not get this money. So, it concerns me then to say, well, we didn't get the money at that level, so now we're going to dig into our fund balance for this money. um that wasn't my understanding of what we were asking for when we made the motion for the budget and I was a person who said yes I think we should have this money for

178our LMS's but I thought we were getting it from the county so I just wanted to make that clarification for myself okay Miss Bumprey I agree I also thought we were going to get them that was what our motion intended was to get um the money from the county however ever. I didn't think it was going to be a separate ask. And like I said before, I'm not blaming anyone for how that was presented. I thought it was going to be something that was reallocated through the budget before it was presented to the county executive. And maybe as board members, we should have made sure that that motion was clear when we did that. Um, however, I think our intention was clear regardless of wording. So, there's a fine line there of balance. Um, but

179when I'm thinking about it, to me, it's still the intention of the board to to fund this somehow. Um, and this is the only way to do it at this point since it wasn't presented the way it probably or or our motion wasn't the way worded the way it should have been or it wasn't presented the way that we intended it to be presented to the county executive and the county council. Thank you, Mr. McMillian. My original motion used the word restore. After we went through the process, then it was recommended or advised that restore was a very generalized term when it comes to finances. So then we we and and so it passed with the general terms and then there were discussions on where the money was going to be you know general kind

180of talks from this table on where the money was going to come. So I left the meeting thinking it was going to be worked out you know I'm not the expert with the budget you guys are. So I thought from what we were shared with us that it was going to be worked out and then it turns out that it was that extra ask that the county executive cut. So now we were advised to make it more specific. So we we did the date, we did the finance where it's coming from. So my expectation is that we get the votes that we had before and it moves on that way. Thank you. Okay. Okay. So we are voting on Miss Pumphrey's amended motion. Correct. Motion to amend. Just the motion to amend. Okay. Repeat the

181amendment. Um, yes, Miss FMA, in the chat it says 2020 2027, right? So, that should just be FY 2027. Well, there's a 20 There's two. There's a 2020 2027 up top and then there's a 2026. Unless I'm misunderstanding, they both would be read FY 2027. The budget was called the FY27 budget. So, in both places. Both places. Thank you. Okay. Okay. May I have a roll call vote, please? Miss Miss L. Yes. While there's things in the chat, I I recommend that you reread reread it. Okay. That BCPS reallocate up to 3.6 million from F1. I'm sorry, point of order, but we're voting on the motion to amend. So, shouldn't she just read the motion to amend talking about? Okay. Thank you. Motion to amend with the consent. Thank you. which is I'm reading what

182you put, but I'm changing the year. Correct. Yes. I just wanted to be clear. Thank you. Okay. That BCPS reallocate up to 3.6 million from the FY2027 fund balance to fund library media specialists in our secondary schools to allow for the removal of additional instructional assignments, including advisory for the FY2027 budget. I think that one should have stayed the same, right? The second one. The second one should stay the same. Just the budget should refer. My reading out loud monitored my Okay. It's just her motion to amend what she's adding where she's at. You should say it again then, Miss Brmprey. Uh let me go back to the original language so I can do this correctly. Um I move to amend the motion. um to insert fiscal year 2027 between the words 'the' and fund

183and to add the words for the 2026 2027 school year after advisory. Okay. Now, roll call vote, please. Miss Framp, point of order. Was there a second? I thought there I thought Mr. McMillian made a second. Sorry. Thank you. You're welcome. Just Miss Framp, yes. Mr. Gome, no. Miss Dowski? Yes. Dr. Seavoy? Yes. Mr. McMillian? Yes. Miss Pumphrey? Yes. Mr. Young? No. Miss Dominowski? Yes. Miss Hen? Yes. Miss Leicter? No. Okay. Seven favor of seven. Yes. So the motion the amend the motion to amend passes. So now we go back to the original motion as amended or Okay. Right. Got that right. So may I have a roll call vote on the original motion as amended? Miss Franong? No. Miss Gome. No. Miss Dleski. Yes. Dr. Seavoy. Yes, Mr. McMillian. Yes, Miss Pumphrey. Yes, Mr.

184Young. No, Miss Dominowski. Yes, Miss Hens. Yes, Miss Leicter. No. Favor is six. Okay. All right. Our next item on the agenda. Thank you, gentlemen. The next item on the agenda is action taken in close session. And for that, I call on Mr. Burns. Mr. Burns. Good evening, Chair Licer, Dr. Rogers, members of the board, receiving in closed session, the board uh reviewed and took action on four uh appeals SDA26-005, HA26-008, HA26-25 and HA26-30. Now be appropriate time to affirm that those actions. Thank you. Um, board members, any separations on the votes of these four cases? Okay. May I have a motion to approve the action taken in close session on hearing examiners cases SDA26-005, HA26-008, HA26-25, and HA26-30 and authorize Miss Gover to sign for those board members not physically present. So move young.

185Thank you. May I have a second? Second. Seo. Thank you. Any discussion? May I have a roll call vote, please? Miss Fong, yes. Miss Abe, yes. Miss Dleski? Yes. Dr. Seavoy? Yes. Mr. McMillian? Yes. Miss Pumphrey? Yes. Mr. Young? Yes. Miss Dominowski? Yes. Miss Hen? Yes. Miss Lter? Yes. Thank you. The next item on the agenda is new business board policies. This is the first reader for these policies and for that I call Miss Christina Pumphrey, chair of the policy review committee. Thank you. Members of the board, the policy review committee asks that the board accept the committee's recommendation of the proposed changes to the following board policies. Board policy 1200, community involvement. Board policy 1210, relationship with parent teacher student associations. These policies are presented to you on tonight's agenda as exhibits N1 through

186N2. Thank you, Miss Pumphrey. Board members, are there any separations being requested? Miss Pumprey, I'd like to separate 1210 for a possible amendment. Okay. Thank you. May I have a motion to accept the recommendation of the board's policy review committee for board policy 1200? So, move 10. Thank you. No second is needed since the recommendation comes from the committee. Is there any discussion? May I have a roll call vote, please? Miss Faul, yes. Mumbbe? Yes. Miss Dleski, yes. Dr. Seavoy, yes. Mr. McMillian, yes. Miss Pumphrey, yes. Mr. Young, yes. Miss Dominowski, yes. Miss Hen, yes. Miss Lter, yes. Thank you. May I have a motion to accept the recommendation of the board policies review committee for board policy 1210? So move, Stelloski. Thank you. No second is needed since the recommendation comes from the committee.

187Is there any discussion? Miss Pumprey? I have a motion to amend um by under section one line 17 to insert the words meaningful two-way between effective and communication second hen it's thank you Miss Pumprey do you want to speak to your we heard from um uh speakers this evening that requested that that those that wording and I I felt like it made sense to place it there. Okay. Any for Miss Hen? Um, yeah. I I support this motion and the amendment and thank the speaker for making the suggestion and thank Miss Pumprey for her motion to amend the policy. I This is feedback we've received consistently since my time on the board and I think it's long overdue and belongs in this policy. So, I thank my colleagues for the support for this motion. Thank

188you. Thank you, Mr. Young. I would ask Miss Pumphrey, would you consider striking meaningful u because that of the subjective nature of it and leave in the two-way. Yes, I can I I'll agree to that. Thank you, Mr. Thank you and thank you to my colleagues for that. Um, I think if we can clarify what the two-way communication would entail, I think that that would be helpful, whether it's um, you know, um, like like a time span in terms of a response, but uh, I do think some kind of clarification would be helpful. Thank you. Sure. I'd like to speak to my second um as I supported the original wording that Miss Pumphrey proposed and did not with withdraw your second. Right. So she withdrew the first but you don't withdraw the second. Not withdrawn.

189I have not yet withdrawn my second and would I support leaving meaningful in because I think that it's important to um avoid rogue communication and meaningful puts the onus on us as a board as leaders of the system to set an example that our communication um is intentional and I think that's a commitment that we need to make to all of our stakeholders. So, I would ask Miss Pumprey if she'd reconsider her original motion. Um, and for now, otherwise, I would withdraw my second um because I feel like it's important to include meaningful. Okay. Um, I saw some other hands, Mr. Young. Then I would um put a motion to strike meaningful. I I think we have to I think we're getting out of order here. So, um, let's let's I'll leave meaningful and we

190can vote on that and then we can I think that would be the appropriate way to proceed in my opinion. But if Miss Mleski would like me to I don't know if we if I should answer or respond to her before proceeding. Let's make sure we all because can you put in the chat what the yes amendment is? Uh, if I can find the chat for Okay. Okay. Motion to amend by adding the words meaningful two-way. Sorry, I missed the word. Two-way between effective and communication in section one, line 17. Once again, motion to amend by adding the word meaningful two-way between effective and communication in section one, line 17. Okay, so we had that we had a second and then now we're still on discussion. Go ahead. Thank you. I I think when we

191think about communication in in this day and age, we're speaking primarily to email and it's too easy to send robotic responses and I'm thinking of out of office messages of, you know, automated, you know, technology makes it too easy to sometimes lose the human factor that is so important to our stakeholders. We heard from several tonight that they feel that they're not being heard. And that's what I hear when I hear meaningful that it brings the the human factor back to what we are committing committing to when we talk about community engagement. So this is why I feel so strongly about including meaningful in because it qualifies what type of communication the board is committing itself to not rem you know automated emails back and forth that serves no one that doesn't serve our stakeholders.

192So I I would ask for reconsideration of supporting including meaningful in this. I know it's not technical. It's not specific. However, it it does um communicate our intent and and we need to be intentional with this. Um words have meaning. We heard that tonight and this conveys the meaning that we want or our communications to be intentional and have value to our stakeholders. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you. Other discussion, Mr. Young. So, just a clarification, u Miss Hen is not removing her second. So, we're stuck with we're we're going with meaningful two-way. I'm sorry, Miss Hen. We're going with meaningful two-way. Correct. Correct. What I read um that was that Miss Pumprey wrote in the chat. Yes, we're going with meaningful two-way between effective and communication. Effective meaningful two-way communication. Okay. And I wanted

193to make a motion to strike meaningful. Okay. And so your motion to amend Miss Pump freeze. I think we should point of order. I think that we should take care. Mr. Burns could advise, but I feel like we could vote on the first amendment and depending on how that vote goes, that's when we would dis Mr. Young would make his amendment to strike or amend or he may not need to amend at all. Um but I also wanted to answer Miss Slesky's question before we voted on the Okay, let me get Mr. Burns to answer the procedural f first as a point of order. The mo if if someone's seeking to amend an amendment motion that's on the floor. They need to say I move to amend the motion and say exactly how they intend

194to amend it. That hasn't actually happened yet. Actually, I said that. We did that. No. Motion to strike. That's not a motion to amend. I I believe I said I motion move to amend the motion by striking. That's that's what I wanted to get out on the record. And then that needs to be seconded. Mr. Burns, can I clarify again, please? But the first motion to amend was from me and I did motion to amend by adding in the words. Okay. Thank you. Talking about this, this is now a second amendment motion to amend yours which needs to be seconded. if it's going to proceed to discussion. Okay. But one second because Miss Pumprey's question was, do we vote on hers before we add Mr. Young's to it? You're saying no. Go to Mr. Young.

195There's been a motion to amend the motion that's on the floor. Okay. That has not been seconded yet. Okay. So, is it Would you say it one more time, Mr. Young? I move to amend the motion by striking the word meaningful. Okay. Is there a second to Mr. Young's amendment. I'm sorry, but I still have a point of order. He's said he's moving to amend the motion. He's not moving to amend the motion. He's moving to amend the amended motion. That the motion on the floor is only the amendment motion. He's moving to amend the motion on the floor. That's okay. Gotcha. Thank you. Only your motion is that clarified for me your wording there. Thank you. So, we're still waiting for a second though, correct? Okay. So, is there a second to Mr. Young's?

196Okay. So, Miss Fong just seconded. Um, do you want to speak to your Yes. Once again, I as I said earlier, meaningful is subjective. Um, so no, we're not talking about we're not talking about just a out of office or thank you, we received your message, but what is meaningful to someone, you know, can be it's different based upon your perspective. So what may be meaningful to say Miss Pumphrey may I may view that as useless. So that's why I say let's take out the meaningful. Thank you, Miss Tleski. Thank you. So I completely understand Miss Hen's point. I completely understand Mr. Young's point. Um could we possibly come up with an alternative word that would achieve both purposes? So while we're discussing that's just something maybe we all can possibly think about so that

197we sort of can achieve both those objectives. Thank you. So you want to amend the amend the amendment? No, I mean possibly. I'm just thinking okay they're both making their points. Maybe we can come up with some kind of compromise with Okay. So but not at this point just something for people to think about. Okay. And my question for the discussion is this policy is about parent teacher student association community involvement. Correct? The one that we are talking about specific to to parent teacher student associations and their communication with us, right? It's very specific. Am I missing something? Is that That's what it's for. Okay. All right, Miss Framp. Thank you, Miss Licer. That's actually where I was going. Um I start I pulled up the rule um that actually accompanies this policy and the

198rule talks more so about what the duties of the school principal are and again about um maintaining the close working relationships with the schools um and that the schools in PTSA exist to promote student achievement. So then there's also guidelines that are laid out within the rule. So all of these guidelines that are laid out are again between the school and the PTSA. So I don't know when we're talking about this meaningful two-way communication if the thought was that it was between the board, right, and the public. I don't know that this is the the policy for that. Um or at least the rule doesn't match up with that. Right. That's why I was where I was gone. Thank you for eloquently saying that, Miss Pumphrey. So, the the point here is if this policy

199changes, the rule will change. So, that whole paragraph from lines 15 to 25 is new. That's why it's all in caps and it says the board of education of Baltimore County is committed blah blah blah blah. So, once this policy changes, in all likelihood, the rule will also have to change to include that something that references that board of education language. Mr. Trump, right? But in all of our policies, it typically says the board of education because we're the people who determine policy. So I don't know that that specifically means though that this particular body as the board of education was going to be engaged in that or they were saying as a system when we talk about the school and PTA this is what we determine we want it to be. Okay. Any further

200comments? Okay. So, we are sorry. Go ahead. The secondary motion, right? We are on Mr. Young's. That's correct. Can you read it for us, Miss Gver? I'm sorry, Miss. He's amending the motion that's on the floor to strike meaningful. Correct. Okay. May I have a roll call vote, please? Miss Rampong. No. Mr. Gumbbe, no. Mr. Dleski, this is to strike. I'm sorry. Strike the word. Don't be sorry. It worked hard to follow. His me were striking the word meaningful from what Miss Pumprey had said. So, where it was meaningful two-way communication, it would just say two-way communication. Okay. If you vote yes for Mr. Young's amendment. So if I vote yes, it strikes meaningful. Yes. If you vote no, it leaves it. No. Okay. Thank you. So what are you voting? No. Thank you. Dr.

201Seavoy? No. Mr. McMillian? No. Miss Pumphrey? No. Mr. Young? Yes. Miss Dominowski? No. Miss Hen? No. Miss Lter? No. Okay. Now, we're back to Miss Pumphrey's amended motion to add the two-way meaningful communication or I got to go back to the team thing. But hopefully y'all, what was it? To add the words meaningful two-way between effective and communication in section one, line 17. May I have a roll call vote, please? Oops, Miss Pump. I just wanted to respond to Miss Tlesky's comment which was part of this motion. Um and that's just that I think the idea here is to keep this broad because um we don't know what that communication is going to involve and those details about timing etc would be something that would be more um appropriate for a rule um and set

202of a policy. Okay. Okay. Now we need a roll call vote please. Miss FPO. Yes. Miss Abe. Yes. Miss Dleski, yes. Dr. Seavoy, yes. Mr. McMillion, yes. Miss Pumphrey, yes. Mr. Young, yes. Miss Dominowski, yes. Miss Hen, yes. Miss Lar, yes. Okay. Thank you everyone. H do the thing. The thing before the thing, right? I moved my cursor to the next agenda. Crazy. Okay. So, we're ready for a roll call vote on the original as amended. 1210 as amended. Miss Fong. Yes. Mr. Gome. Yes. Miss Dleski? Yes. Dr. Seavoy? Yes. Mr. McMillian? Yes. Miss Pumphrey? Yes. Mr. Young? Yes. Minowski? Yes. Miss Hen? Yes. Miss Lter? Yes. Thank you. Are we finished policies? Thank you. Okay. The next item on the agenda is contract awards. And for that, I call Mr. Young, chair of the

203building contracts committee. Members of the board, the board's building and contracts committee met on Monday, June 8th, 2026. Items 01 through 07 were forwarded to the full board for approval. I request to separate contracts one and two. Okay. Are there any other separations bes You came back, Miss Pumprey. Any any other We're going to vote. Any other separations other than one and two? Okay. Do I have a motion to approve items one and two? Don't do one and two first. Okay. Do I have a motion to approve items three through seven? So moved from Paul. Thank you. No second is needed since the recommendation comes from the committee. Any discussion on items three through seven? Okay. May I have a roll call vote, please? Yes. Miss Fong. Yes. Mr. Gome. Yes. Miss Dlesky. Yes. Dr.

204Seavoy. Yes. Mr. McMillian. Yes. Miss Pumphrey. Yes, Mr. Young. Yes, Mr. Manowski. Yes, Miss Hen. Yes, Miss Licar. Yes. Thank you. Do I have a motion to approve items one and two? So move. Still. Thank you. And no second is needed since the recommendation comes from the committee. Any discussion on items one or two? May have a roll call vote, please. That's okay. We've thrown you lots of curve balls. Miss Fmpon. Yes. Mome. Yes. Mr. Dlesky. Yes. Dr. Seavoy. Yes. Mr. McMillian. Yes. Miss Pumphrey. Sorry. Mr. Young. Recuse. Mr. Dominowski. Yes. Miss Hen. Yes. Miss Lar. Yes. Thank you. The next item on the agenda is new business, naming or renaming an area. For that, I call on Dr. Jones. Good luck, Dr. Jens. Good evening, board chair, members of the board, and Superintendent Rogers.

205I appear I appear before you this evening to present a proposal in accordance with rules 7530 section A to rename the Perry Hall High School softball field in honor of Sandy Trimble. As a former student athlete, Sandy exemplified good character, dedication, and sportsmanship. The Trimble family will provide funding for a commemorative plaque to be mounted on the dugout side of the field. If approved, the softball field at Perry Hall High School will be named the Sandy Trimble Field. Thank you for your consideration. Thank you. May I have a motion to accept the renaming of the existing softball field at Perry Hall High School in memory of Sandy Trimble as presented in exhibit B? So moved. Miss Hen, thank you. May I have a second? Second. Okay. Any discussion? Mr. McMillian, do do they actually have

206softball dugouts at Perry Hall? There is a picture on the I was going to say there's a picture in the there's a picture that indicates that there that's where the plaque will be hung, but I'll let Mr. Dr. Graham share. Uh they have they have dugouts of of sorts. They have the the fencing and they do have a covered enclosure. Thanks. You're welcome. Any further discussion? Thank you. Okay. May I have a roll call vote, please? Miss Framp, yes. Miss Okambe, yes. Mr. Sleski, yes. Dr. Seavoy, yes. Mr. McMillian, yes. Miss Pumprey, yes. Miss Lter, yes. I'm sorry, Mr. Young. Mr. Young, yes. Miss Dominowski, yes. Miss Hen, emphatically, yes. Miss Lter, yes. Thank you. Thought you were trying to make sure we're all paying attention there. It's okay. Thank you. It was approved. Oh,

207wait. Oh, okay. The next item n Q. We got a new Q. Okay. The next item on the agenda is the approval of the Dumbartan Middle School Gymnasium floor. 7330. Yes. Go ahead, Dr. Jones. Good evening again, Board Chair Licer, members of the board, and Superintendent Rogers. I bring before you this evening the proposal in accordance with BCPS policy and rules 70 7330 to refinish the gymnasium floor at Dumbartan Middle School. The donation is being provided by Talson Recreational Council Incorporated and will fund the refinishing of the gymnasium floor at an estimated cost of $40,74.73. This 7330 project will enhance the safe the safety, appearance, and functionality of the gymnasium and will directly benefit the Dumbartan Middle School community. Thank you for your consideration of this request. Okay. Did I already ask for a motion

208to approve? What? It It's in the script. Okay. I didn't refresh because I didn't have time. Okay. Wait a second. Waiting for Q to come up. Yes. You see it under P. Trying to mix me up too. Under P. It's Q. Under Q for me. P was 7530. It's Q. Mr. Young. Now you're okay. Do I have a motion to accept the special project for Dumbartan Middle School including a gymnasium floor as presented in exhibit Q? So moved from Paul. May I have a second? Second to Goombbe. Thank you. Any discussion on exhibit Q? Mr. McMillian. Dr. Grim, the high schools are on a rotating basis for the floors to be the resanded and surface finished. Are the middle schools also on that kind of cycle? Uh they they are, but they are not on

209the the same timeline of cycle as the high the high schools are done much more frequently. Um the the the middle schools are not done nearly as as frequently as the high schools. Any idea the last time Dun Barton was done? I I don't recall, but I believe it's been um approximately 15 years or or more. Did you actually inspect that floor yourself? I'm curious. I did not. I've seen pictures of of that floor as I have some of our other middle school floors. Um we're we're very happy to work with the Taliden Recreational Council to do this because it it will benefit our our students. Yeah, it's a $40,000 lot of money. It certainly is. Any other discussion? Okay. May I have a roll call vote, please? Miss Faul, yes. Miss Abe, yes. Mr.

210Dleski, yes. Dr. Seavoy, yes. Mr. McMillian, yes. Miss Pumprey, yes. Mr. Young, yes. Miss Dominowski, yes. Miss Hen, yes. Miss Lar, yes. Thank you. Um, approved. And please thank the Talson Recreation Council um on our behalf. So, that's a huge donation. So, thank you. The next item on the agenda is the public charter school. And for that, I call on Dr. Mullenex. Puzzle Pieces Charter School. Good evening. Good evening, Chair Licter, Dr. Rogers, and board members. U I'm here seeking action regarding the Puzzle Pieces Learning Academy or PPLA charter. The charter for Puzzle Pieces Learning Academy was presented to the board on March 25th, 2025, approved on April 16, 2025, and fully executed in August 28th of 2025. As part of the executed charter, the school identified 4414 Wilkins Avenue in Baltimore as its instructional

211site and agreed to notify Baltimore County within 30 days of becoming aware of any condition that could cause the school to vary from the terms of the agreement. Since that time, four separate failure to pay rent cases were filed against um I'm sorry, I just lost my train of thought. against the school um in district court between November 25th and April no I'm sorry November 2025 and April 2026. BCPS was not notified of these matters as required under section 20 uh section 12.1 of the agreement. Upon learning of these circumstances, the office of law and division leadership sought assurance that the school had resolved these matters and remained capable of opening for students in the 2627 school year. Despite multiple communications and opportunities to respond, BCPS did not receive sufficient information demonstrating the school's ability

212to proceed with opening preparations. More concerning um more concerning and of great significance, the office of law received written confirmation that PPLA was evicted from 4414 Wilkins Avenue in Baltimore on June 3rd, 2026, leaving Puzzle Pieces Learning Academy without a location from which to operate. While I recognize um Campfield Early Learning Center was idently proposed, I want to remind the board that the Campfield Early Learning Center was approved to be used for the new Northwest CTE Center. Based on the information available, administration is recommending immediate revocation of the charter pursuant of to section 16.6 six of the charter with a which authorizes immediate revocation under certain circumstances identified by this county board. The school's eviction from its designated facility coupled with ongoing concerns regarding its fiscal condition raises significant doubts about its ability to secure,

213renovate, and obtain the necessary use and occupancy approvals for a new location before the start of the 2627 school year. Immediate action is necessary to provide timely notice and enrollment options for families and minimize disruption to prospective staff. Therefore, administration respectfully recommends that the board approve the immediate revocation of the charter for Puzzle Pieces Learning Academy. Thank you. Um before I ask for a motion, are there any questions um of Miss Dr. Molnik? So I just one clarification. You said in the beginning there was four court, what did you say? Four four uh there there were actually four court cases, four separate failure to pay rent cases that were filed between November of 2025 in April of 2026. But that had nothing to do with BCPS. We Nothing to do with BCPS. They It was

214failure to pay their rent. Okay. And you said that they were supposed to inform us. That's in the contract. Okay. But how did you how did we find out? We found out from a third party and once we did public records they it was in public records. Thank you. And then we received written communication that they were evicted on June 3rd from from that from the location at Wilkins Avenue. Not from Puzzle Bees, from the the people they were going to rent from. Yes. So Puble Places was renting from the arch dascese at Wilkins Avenue. They did not pay their rent for four, five months. I'm looking at Valerie. Um 5 months after the fifth month, they um executed the right for eviction and the eviction went through on June 3rd of 2026. Have they

215been told about Campfield um early learning centers plans that we BCPS has plans to use it for a CTE center because that was written in the correspondence that they feel that that's what they can use. Yeah. I'm not sure where Puzzle Pieces thought that they could use Campfield because that had already been approved by the board to be used for the Northwest CTE Center. So, I'm not sure exactly where they came up with that idea. Okay. Has anybody informed them since they wrote that last message? We have not informed them since they wrote the last message. Okay. Thank you. Other Miss Hen, thank you. Um, good evening, Dr. Mollik. Um 16.7 of the charter agreement reads that BCPS shall issue a notice to intent to revoke from the county designate. Such notice shall be provided

216to the charter school in writing and must outline the facts and causes in support of the revocation and two provide the charter school with an opportunity to respond to the causes in the revocation notice within 15 days of receipt. So, if if the board were to accept the recommendation of of your team and approve that, would that trigger the intent to revoke and would um puzzle pieces have a chance to respond before final um before we would make a final decision on the revocation or what would happen next? So, we already sent a letter with our intent to make that recommendation to the board. Um and that was about 15 days ago. I I have to look back at the letter to make sure it was dated. Um the correspondence that you received, I believe

217it came through the email, um that was her response to that letter of reagent to revoke. That was Yes. So that was our recommendation that we were coming here today to ask for revocation and then her response came to you via email. Um yes, that's Yeah. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. If the board was to ask to grant a one-year extension to them, what would the implications be for the system? Um, I can't speak to the implications, but I do have grave concerns considering this is all fiscally resp um all based on fiscal fiscal issues. Um, so I'm not sure how that will impact the school system. Um, they have made some allegations that we promised things that we have not promised. There's nowhere in writing. it's not in their charter. Um, based on the

218conversations that I've had with Mr. Tantliff, Mr. Grim, Dr. Grim, none of those promises have been made anywhere that anyone's aware of. So, I'm a little bit concerned about the transparency of um, puzzle pieces at this point because they have not made us aware of even at this point even at the fact that they have been evicted. So, when the speaker this evening talked about the 1.5 million that they thought they were going to get to do the planning and the startup, that was not part of the contract. That was not part of our contract. They actually received a letter today that it was a grant that they got. Um they also made allegations that we said that we would give per pupil um funding, which obviously you can't give per pupil funding when you

219don't have pupils enrolled. Um so that was a false allegation as well. So if we did give them the year extension, they would still not receive any funds from us until they until they open in fall of 2022. Correct. and they would also have to find a new location because they've been evicted and obviously again Campfield is not an option for them. Okay, thank you. Did I see somebody else's Okay, Miss Stleski, just a very very quick question. So, um adding on to that, if we gave them the one-year extension, it would not guarantee the approval. It would just be giving them the additional year to try like a like a low it would be a a no risk to us option. Um, I don't think I would say it would be a no risk

220to us um because we could likely be in the same exact situation next year and have to inform parents again that we are not um going to be moving forward with opening of that building. Okay. Thank you, Miss Demanowski. I just want to know, do you know offhand how many parents believed or were told that they would be going to this school? We believe there are 60 parents. 60. Okay. Thank you. Is that BCPS telling them or is that puzzle pieces? That's puzzle pieces telling us that there are 60. Okay. So, we had nothing to do with the the enrollment. Okay. Okay. Is there any board member that wishes to make a motion or I do want to add to um Miss Hen if I can. They can appeal to the state board after after

221this. So, I don't know. Okay. So, all right. So then based on Dr. Molenex's presentation, she's asking for us to immediately revoke Puzzle Pieces Charter. I know the name is longer. Puzzle Pieces Puzzle Pieces Learning Academy. Puzzle Pieces Learning Academyy's charter. So, do I have a motion to immediately revoke Puzzle Pieces Learning Academy Charter? Okay, let me try this another way. Do I have a motion to grant a one-year extension to Puzzle Pieces Learning Academy Charter? So, moved from Pong. Okay. Is there a second? Second, Stleski. Any further discussion on a one-year extension? Oh, can I amend my motion to a one-year extension with quarterly? Follow-ups. I don't know what the word follow-up quarterly monitoring of what? We don't need that in the motion. We don't need that in the motion. Chair Licer, would the

222board uh permit board counsel to come to the DEAS and speak to your motion? Yes, we permit you to come to the DES. Dr. H. Chair Lector. Yes. Chair Lector, Dr. Rogers, members of the board. I just before you move too far with the the motion that you proposed, just remember extension can be interpreted a lot of ways. I'd recommend to the board that if you're going to do anything like that, that your motion be framed around amending the charter agreement to to modify the date that they plan to open school. Meaning, the only thing you're doing is changing the target date for the school opening. extending someone a year can sometimes mean something different. So, I just think you should phrase it around amending the charter agreement, whatever it is the board wishes to

223do. So, could you give us your advice on what that would sound like? I think I think the board could you could make a motion to amend the charter agreement to change the school opening date from fall of the 2627 school year to fall of 2728 school year. Okay. So since I made it, can I just say I changed my mind. You can withdraw. I withdraw my original motion. So the new emotion would read to amend the charter agreement of puzzle pill puzzle pill puzzle puzzle puzzle pieces learning academy to agreement to change school year opening from 26 to 27 to 2728. Okay. Is there a second? Second stles. Okay. Any discussion on Go ahead, Mr. Run. No, again, I guess point of order because I had made the motion and then Mr. Lusky seconded

224and then your motion was going to be to change. Oh, I thought you second my I thought I made the motion and you I said so moved and then Mr. Lusky. Okay. Right. Yes. I'm trying to amend the motion that you Right. It's only thing right now you're doing is amending a motion, right? So your the actual motion is to amend the motion on the floor to make that change. Okay. To amend the motion to change the school year from 2026 27 to 2728. Because the primary motion was what? To grant the year extension, right? We're just Okay. And you're you're modifying the motion that was made and seconded. Okay. So somebody did just second that that Felicia did. Okay. Yes. So first we would vote on my on the amendment that includes the school

225years in it. That's correct. Okay. Can we have a roll call vote, please? Miss Framp? Yes. Miss Abe? Yes. Musleski? Yes. Dr. Seavoy? Yes. Mr. McMillian? Yes. Miss Pumphrey? Yes. Mr. Young? Yes. Miss Dominowski? Yes. Miss Hen? Yes. Miss Lter, yes. Thank you. So now we have to vote on the original motion as amended. Correct. We have a roll call vote, please. Miss Fong, yes. Miss Abe, yes. Miss Dleski, yes. Dr. Seavoy, yes. Mr. McMillian, yes. Miss Pumprey, yes. Mr. Young, yes. Miss Dominowski, yes. Miss Hen, yes. Miss Lear, yes. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Burns, did you want to say something? Yep. Um, do I have the board's I want to confer with the board right now and make sure we do the right thing. Do I have the board's permission to work with the

226staff to amend the agreement and obviously communicate with the charter school uh and amend the agreement as necessary to reflect that change that you've approved? Yes. Can I have consensus for the request that Mr. Burns just said? Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Next on the agenda is the report on the ERP system. And for that I call on Dr. Rogers. Thank you. Good evening, Chair Licter, members of the board. Uh, coming forward are members of our ERP team to provide a robust update on this project. Uh, Dr. uh, Grim, I think, oh, it says Dr. Rogers will get us started. All right. Once we put the uh slide up, want to remind everyone um that enterprise resource planning or ERP uh better known as Oracle, it is our platform that provides integrated uh business

227services. So all of our communication end to end um is uh run through our ERP project. As you guys know, 3 years ago, um BCPS had a lot of work occurring behind the scenes by individuals working in the financial uh department in human resources uh in uh payroll um and uh other areas uh where there was a lot of manual processes in place. um our vulnerabilities were exposed or I should say exacerbated by the cyber attack and to keep uh weekly payroll running for organization of our size uh there was uh in an inordinate amount of work taking place uh by members of our teams. Uh this team has come together over three years um to move this project forward. Um it has been a huge undertaking moving a school system our size uh 25th

228largest in the nation with 20,000 employees. moving from a a highly paper process with fax machines and uh things of that nature and weekly payrolls and paying people in advance of when they worked. Um is going to um experience some period of transition and for some um some uh discomfort in moving to industry standard. And so I do want to thank this team uh for their steadfast commitment to moving BCPS forward and partnering with many stakeholders to make sure that everyone had access to information, training and resolving problems as soon as possible. And you will hear soon enough um how uh making sure how they have worked as a team to make sure that the problems were uh few and far between. But also want to highlight that in uh all organizations um large and

229small um there are sometimes actions that either uh take place by uh individuals or by a system that trigger another um response and so the team will speak to that in detail. So I turn it over to Mr. Korns. Evening chair lecture, members of the board. Um so as a reminder uh we are in uh our product project uh year three uh phases one and two which were our human capital and payroll went live on July 1st of 2025. Uh that is um the first payroll that was generated in BCPS uh in another system other than our previous in 20 years. So a rather monumental changeover with a lot of moving parts. As Dr. Rogers mentioned we went from uh multiple uh pay cycles down to one and all in panoras. Our current phases uh

230we are in the middle of phase uh three, four, and five. Uh you'll notice they're broken out in two different phases. Uh the Oracle module is referred to as EPM, but it's basically our budgeting module. Uh that uh allows staff to go in and build the budget for next year. uh that will go live slightly earlier than uh the finance uh and procurement packages simply so that we're ready for the uh normal budget cycle that starts around September. Uh then phases uh three and five which are financial finance and procurement will be going live on October 6th of 26. Uh again uh with the modules underneath of these uh initiatives uh you can see on this slide I won't read it to you that uh the HR and payroll go live uh which started on

231July 1st uh contain the modules listed under the blue with uh the budget and um finance go lives uh including all of those modules underneath uh starting on August 17th for the budget part and then the rest going live on in October and then uh post go live this actually applies to HR and payroll and finance uh we are using vendor support uh through managed services uh we're continually using uh Oracle training uh through Oracle themselves and uh we've uh contracted with uh our implement to do something called uh task or testing as a service so that Oracle as they patch on a quarterly basis we are receiving um reports as to how that new module uh patching will impact our implementation. So with that, I'm going to turn to Dr. Groom. Uh so good

232evening again. Um this slide depicts uh because I think it's important that we go we think it's important that we go back a little bit. Um we often hear about um what what is not happening in Oracle, but we had some of the same problems in CGI. we just had CGI for a much longer period of time. We had it for over two decades as as Mr. Korn said. And so with that um there was a lot of there were a lot of workarounds. Um people knew how to work the system. They knew how to uh manipulate it in ways um to ensure that they were maximizing its potential in CGI. Um as was also noted we were running weekly payroll. So every week someone was getting paid in BCPS. We had some employees on

233uh one week cycle, other employees on the next week cycle. And believe it or not, we had other employees that got paid every week because of their job position. Um so when there was an error or another issue, um payroll was really on a continual hamster wheel. um they were they were initiating and engaging in pay every week including those those holiday weeks. Um as you're going to see on the next slide and as Mr. Korns also said and the superintendent said um we shifted that model with the implementation to Oracle to put everyone in a rears and everyone on the same pay date which is a significant shift when you're paying over 19,000 employees. Um back with CGI we were very uh paperheavy onboarding and human capital management. We had four different systems frontline

234CGI um Silk Road and um other uh manual tracking that we were using all to onboard our staff and so we've been able to streamline some of those practices. Uh data entry was inconsistent along with decisionmaking that was not based on sound and consistent practices. um offices were siloed. Uh so what we had was there were decisions that were being made. There were um not only expenditures but reports that were being tracked um workbook to workbook, spreadsheet to spreadsheet. And as Dr. Rogers said, some of these uh issues were highlighted when we experienced the ransomware attack and those data were lost because they were in several different places and they were not often brought together. So um in the old system again we had a lot of moving parts with people doing different things and

235making decisions based on their specific office needs. There were a lot of human errors um based on these human consistencies which which obviously lead to risk. Um when you don't have a standard SOP, you don't have a system that integrates all these processes together um it can lead to problems. So we again lacked continuity. Um and we had end of software uh end of life software issues that we were beginning to with CGI. Um Mr. Korns and I have this conversation frequently. Uh for those of you that remember Kevin Smith, former CaOoo, we used to talk about how uh BCPS was the biggest mom and pop shop you'd ever see, a multi-billion dollar mom and popop shop. And so, um, what was happening in payroll was, uh, disperate from what was happening in human resources.

236Um, whether that was staffing or benefits, that was different than what was happening in payroll. And so, for the same type of procedure or the same type of of action or record change for an employee, you might have multiple different ways that that was occurring um, in CGI. Next slide, please. Good evening again. Um, long gone are the days where we had front line where an applicant would actually apply on front line go through on boarding on Silk Road and then from there uh their information is put into CGI. So from hire to exit an employee can actually put their information in uh through Oracle. So at this point uh staff now utilize Oracle throughout the entire life cycle. This includes managing both external as well as internal applicants through the Oracle recruiting cloud, extending

237electronic offers and then guiding new hires through onboarding journeys. Okay. Um as an employee of team BCPS our employees have access to Oracle employee service module and on this platform it provides real time employment uh details uh to include compensation info uh that would also include their paylips so employees can actually see their place paylips on uh through the employee self-service um position changes time off balances uh whether or not how much time they have for uh vacation leave, uh whether or not it's urgent personal business or sick leave. Um in addition to that, benefits enrollment info info employees can also access not only through on their desktop but also through the Oracle app. So they have that uh capability as well. Some other improvements that we have that we're excited about are for open

238enrollment. So, this is our first year where we're able to have open enrollment fully automated where employees no longer have to utilize the paper format as it relates to making their changes and submitting that to our office to key in um outside of our open enrollment period. Employees are also able to uh submit their qualifying life events as well um fully through Oracle. Um as well as the leave reporting codes that Mr. MCL just mentioned we have enhanced uh codes nowadays where the employees can um list if there's documented absence if it's undocumented absence and also allows for better reporting uh particularly with family and medical leave act. Um employees can also manage their supplemental retirement accounts uh fully automated now. And so to give you some context, before employees had to fill out a

239form, they had to submit it to our office via email or drop it off and then our team had to key it in. And keep in mind for the supplemental retirement accounts, you can make changes at any time. So you can start, you can stop, you can increase, you can decrease. So each time that was a paper format. Now employees can simply do that online. Um however with these improvements and enhancements um and we have over 15,000 benefit eligible employees um 2% of our employees have had some of disruption as it relates to their health care. And we have two primary challenges that happened whether it was their retirement contributions not being timely deducted or if it was the fact that they were mistakenly terminated for the healthc care coverage. However, when we are notified,

240when we find out, we do correct that immediately. Um, as has been mentioned, uh, that issue is not an issue just because of Oracle. And so, to give you an example, in our legacy system now, um, we also experience that as well with our technology interfaces. So, just wanted to put that out there as well. Um, I think I'm turning it back. Um, hold on before you go to that next slide. Um just to add on add on to that um to add on to what uh Mr. Hodge was saying uh we meet as a weekly we were meeting weekly we now meet bi-weekly as a a payroll support team and that team not only includes the office of payroll it includes other arms as well um human resources benefits, human resources staffing, position management

241all joined together. Um, we keep a running list uh that that payroll the payroll supervisors have of any issues and what was reported. And through that collaboration and interaction, we've been able to identify issues that employees or groups have brought forward to us about what they're seeing or what they're experiencing in the new platform. It's also given us the opportunity to to track down why different issues occur. Again, uh with our employees interacting with a system for almost 20 years in some cases, shifting to a system that we've only had for about 11 months is a significant change. Um so that's our staff interacting with it. Um we went from uh dozens of payroll issues at the very beginning of the year and again they were they were grouped in categories as Mr. Hajj said

242to now we are down to one to a handful um each pay period. Uh again when we are notified of them um we we put into motion we investigate um what triggered the event and what um what happened for the employee. Sometimes it is something that the employee did with a change in their record. Sometimes it's something that happens uh that happened in the system that was that was triggered because not because of something that they did but because of uh possibly a new enrollment not a new benefit enrollment but perhaps they took on a second role here in BCPS and their again their record changed. So we've been able to grow in strides in that area as well. And we do h we have onboarded this year a few uh persons particularly in HR

243who have quickly become experts on the Oracle platform and they're developing their skills. All right. So um there's a bit of historical knowledge when it comes to the state of Maryland. uh they are working on a unified data system and uh once that was occurring uh they uh did a poll of all school systems to find out what systems they were on to integrate with uh both uh student information as well as ERP. Um so uh prior to our implementation we were with one other school system on our legacy system. Uh we felt it was important for uh the board to understand that there are currently six school systems that are using Oracle uh or uh soon to use Oracle in Prince George's County's case. Uh which will constitute about 60% of uh the student

244population uh being impacted by an Oracle using school system. Uh we've listed them here for you to see. Um and so the reason that's important is because it gives us scale of means where we can collaborate as recently as yesterday have collaborated with another school system. They ask about their uh implementation and how they've done work. And so this gives us the opportunity to work together to um uh a local um user group is being built for Maryland school systems to interact. So this kind of gives you the feel of the number of school systems and the size of that. Um given there are 23 LEAs. This this number six isn't as impactful as the fact that um you know we have uh almost 60% of students represented. Um we uh reached out to some

245school system the other school systems to find out what their implementation costs were. We tried to list them as best as possible um uh with timely responses. Uh Prince George's County has selected Oracle as their go live, but they have uh currently just started their RFP for the implementation. So we didn't have any numbers yet for them. Um so with all of that, I'm going to head back to Dr. Grim, I believe. Thank you. So this last slide that we have for you this evening is is a breakdown and and Mr. Dr. Tantliff's going to go over a summary of the numbers, but we did want to point out that the original spend authority um that was approved by the board in 2023 was for $27 million implementation. And as you can see in the

246previous slide, um there are uh two of the districts that have moved to the implementation. One just had Oracle and moved to the cloud um was over that mark. Another is is over $41 million in implementation costs at this time. Uh, next month the board will be receiving a request through building and contracts um to increase the spending authority for the overall implementation um by $8 million that will extend through 2028. And there bulleted is uh or are the reasons uh for that increased spending authority. and uh we can detail or ask answer any questions that you have about each of those. But essentially um some of this has been learned as we have uh again implemented phases one and two and as we continue to implement uh implement phases three, four and five. Um

247part of this request is for a contingency of resources. Others include some of the managed services, additional hours um we've needed for reporting and so forth. And at this time, uh Mr. Tantliff's just going to quickly go over the summary. Uh Dr. Grim uh summarized it very well. You can see on the the sheet um a project of this scale, it's very hard to predict what the overall system cost is going to be in the beginning because there's so many unknowns that uh come up and get tackled as we get into the project. So, uh, you know, our vendor does the best they can with the, uh, requirements that we define up front to outline what the costs might be, but as we get into there are certain levels of support we need that go

248longer than originally anticipated. Uh, more contractual employees to support the initiative so that our employees can work almost full-time at times on the project. Um, and the sum of all of those uh things, as Dr. Grim mentioned, will uh come up to about $8 million that you'll see next uh month to increase our contract authority to 35 million. Uh, and one thing of note, the contractors on the budget are not part of they're part of the project expense, but they're not part of what we're talking about with the contractual authority, which is just what we pay to IBM, which includes the Oracle subscription fee. Thank you. Okay, questions from board members. you got us at a late point, I guess. Um, Miss Hen, thank you. Um, one of the issues that was mentioned that's probably

249the most concerning that I've heard has been the insurance terminations and I think Dr. Grim, you may have mentioned that or sorry if I can you say that again? The the insurance terminations that or perhaps Mr. Korn's mentioned it that was not specific to I'm sorry, Mr. Gosh. Um that was not specific to Oracle but that existed on the legacy system as well. Have we identified the root cause and can you speak to how we're addressing those? Yes. So we have what the main cause is because of our technical interfaces that happen and so when our files are going over from BCPS to the carriers um something could be different in the column. It could be an extra character and it will cause the file to fail. Um that's been consistent from our legacy system

250as well. Um, something that's new in our current system is for example an overage dependent. And so if an overage dependent was to fall off when they turn 26 and the system is not able to move that tier. So if they're in a family and now they're dropping down to a um uh two adults or they're dropping down to parent and ch uh cell phone, excuse me, then the system we have to manually override that. And so to answer your question about the fixes, absolutely. So all of the issues, the two primary ones that I mentioned as well as others, we have manual fixes in place and we're working with our teams of course for permanent solutions. Okay. So perhaps you can debunk a myth or what I'm I'm hearing then in terms of you

251know the rumor mill that's out there which is that Oracle is not designed to support some of our use cases including multiple roles in the system or multiple um pays and I think that that is something that someone mentioned. So, for instance, stipens that our educators receive and if they're on multiple pay um cycles that that could be one of the root causes. Um, and I don't know if it's of this particular problem or not, but that that is one thing that I'm I'm hearing and that other school systems are having the same issue and that or either neither Oracle nor the school systems teams have um come up with a fix for that. So I'll I'll begin to answer that question. Um with the five different bargaining units, we have five very unique circumstances

252that are programmed into Oracle. Um those unique circumstances were also somewhat programmed into CGI. And when I say somewhat, um there were lots of manual changes that had to happen in CGI. And again, we were running um a different a different type of payroll every week um and really every other week in that system. And so, one of the things that that we've found is that um the way that the way that the system has been programmed, so it's not the system itself um by unit. if there's a variance between um ASME and ESPC for example in how a holiday is um is I don't want to say interpreted but if there's a difference between how the contract views a particular day as a holiday it can imp it can impact those employees differently and

253if it wasn't programmed correctly by that unit um then it becomes a problem so we are finding some of those things as we As we've gone through the year and we've experienced different holidays or employees have taken floating holidays or employees have taken a certain type of leave before or after a holiday because there are certain um circumstances within the agreements that if an employee takes a certain type of leave before or after a holiday or they're not in paid status, they don't get paid. If those things aren't all programmed in the system, right, it doesn't matter whether it's Oracle or CGI or some other program. it won't work. So, some of those circumstances have happened. Um, I think it's also important to note um we've we've also been transitioning um a lot of paper

254and pencil type time sheets over to more automation for the hourly type stipens that you're referring to, Miss Hen. Okay. So, I hope that answers your question. It it it sort of does and I think I'm talking about apples and oranges here it sounds like but that was one of the potentially root potential root causes that was it was a hypothesis I guess that has been floating out there as a result or hypothesized as a cause of the um insurance terminations. So, it sounds like they're two different issues. And I guess I'm asking for the status. Have we What is our confidence level that we've identified all of the causes of the insurance terminations? Because the stories break your heart. I mean, you hear about individuals being either denied coverage or that aren't seeking cover,

255you know, health care, I'm sorry, health care that they need because they find out that they're they've lost benefits. and and that's not what we want for our employees. So, it's in terms of urgency and issues that we're, you know, that the team is tackling. Can you can you speak to that and provide an an update on when employees would expect to to see this finally resolved? Uh, Mr. Hodgej or Mr. McCall, the first thing um I would ask that you respond to is what is the process if someone uh because I know we have received calls uh people directly from uh medical office or people following up. What is our current process now and what is the lag time uh that someone has to wait to receive uh medical care? What what do we

256do internally if there is a problem in Oracle regarding healthcare? Absolutely. So it is the top priority. So when we get that call, whether it comes in through what is currently our customer service center, um there is a means to escalate that directly upstairs, well in the building upstairs to our actual benefits and retirement team, we do stop what we're doing because that is a serious situation. And so what we have the ability to do is not only correct it, but we correct it in the carriers portal. And so what we ask the employee to do, particularly if they're at the doctor, we let them know that it's completed. And then we ask them to tell their provider that they may have to call the carrier just to confirm the coverage because this is a

257these are immediate updates that we're making. So the way the system is designed is that when we make those changes, it will go over on the next file because it is a priority and it's serious. We stop right there and there, right then and there and we take it all the way through. So if that provider is having difficulty once we make that change and we tell the employee, we just give them the information to contact the carrier and they can verify coverage. So, it can be done right there, right then and there. Um, if it's not at the doctor's office and they give us information that where they're going in two days or within the week, we still do that because depending on when we make the change depends on when it goes on

258the next file. And so, we want to make sure that the uh retiree, the active employee or their dependent is able to get in ASAP. And that's great to hear. I'm I'm very glad to hear that we're responsive and I wasn't doubting our responsiveness at all and and I'm not asking thank you for that information. I'm I'm not concerned that we're not being responsive when we get those calls and and I'm I am hearing that we are being responsive. I guess what I'm more concerned about, you know, that's a huge burden on our resources on our team and in having to respond to those. So, I'm really asking about when I say root cause, how are we stopping them the bleeding? Not to use a health healthcare analogy, but you know what I'm saying. How

259are we addressing it so that we don't have to continue to provide that level of support and use resources to manage these issues on an ongoing basis? And is Oracle providing the support that we need to be able to do that? Yes. And so forgive me for that. So I am confident as of today that we're aware of our current um challenges that we're having. And so most of the challenges if employees are having something today it's because it's in a previous period. So as of March I can say that we have fixes in place for the issues that we were having and then I mentioned earlier today or earlier tonight. Um so that's as of today what I am aware of and so we continue to work with not only our IT partners but

260also of course with IBM among the calls and the meetings that we have on a weekly basis and there more than one that we have. So, we're always in communication and I believe my team and Mr. Corin's team probably talks every day um for the regular meetings or whether it's just a matter of getting on a team's call to talk through. Um so, as of today, I am confident that we're aware of our current challenges that were impacting employees disruption to their healthcare. Um Miss Fang, are you online? Yes, I'm here on the You have a question? I do. Um, so it's hard to hear you, Miss Fang. Um, let me turn up the volume. Can you hear me better now? A little. Yes. Okay. Um, with the slide on slide eight, um, and I

261see down at the bottom it talks about an additional $8 million request to the board in July of 2026. It does have the breakdown of why that information is being asked for. I guess well what encompasses that $8 million. Um I guess I'm trying to understand is how in understanding you cannot cost out every single thing um when you're rolling out new software. Um, but how did we get to an $8 million differential um with um with this contract, especially when we talk about that this has already been done in other school systems and even in larger school systems than ours. I mean, where is it that are we not being clear on the requirements what we're looking for from this from this software or is it you know our vendor? How do we get

262to 8 billion another you know because this is additional money we've already given out before so where is this additional 8 billion um that's being requested what is why do we have such a big variance here uh Miss Fbrang I will uh start to respond and ask the team that they can uh fill in and correct um the slide before that identifies the six school systems you see the top three largest school systems including ours on there. I believe Montgomery County has had Oracle and the cost there is to transfer from onprim to um the cloud-based services. Uh that's $28 million which our spending affordability to start from scratch was 27 million. Baltimore City um I'm not sure if they are finished. They spent $41 million and we don't have numbers yet for Prince George's

263uh county. highlight Baltimore City because we have their uh uh we have the numbers and they are a much smaller school system. And so comparably uh some of the reason that this information was provided was to provide some um context on the costs with implementing uh Oracle. And if we go to the next slide, the slide that actually has the numbers and I think uh Mr. Tantliff or Mr. Korns can speak to um you'll see for FY27 and 28 what the projected costs are and I think the team can speak to the specific bullets that are on the bottom um for that added uh support and services to make sure um that we don't have to an earlier point uh people having to stop everything that they're doing for years in perpetuity that we have

264reports that we're running that we're fixing um you know concerns that are coming up for uh staff members, but I think uh members at the table, you guys are much better equipped to speak to specifics about uh the $8 million over two years. What is constituting that amount? Um, you know, I noted before a project this magnitude, it's just it's very difficult to be precise upfront because there's so many moving parts and there's so many things that are learned in terms of uh requirements and what it takes to keep the project going once you get into it. Um but you can see on the sheet we realized we needed hyperare uh for an extra month for each of the phases of um the project. We had to delay implementation uh both for uh payroll and

265HCM last year. Um that was a lot due to Tabco's request that we do the go live on July 1st instead of on March 1st. Um, as we got into the uh current modules, we realized that needed to be delayed to get all the bones and all the work in place and get everything um identified and put together and do all the proper testing. Um, we had to add testing as a service and manage services and just additional IBM resources that we realized we needed. Uh once we got into the project, we just unfortunately couldn't have anticipated all of those. Um on day one, we did the best we can. We know these are precious resources and we do um we we absolutely don't add or incur costs unless we absolutely have to, but it's

266paramount for the project to be successful. Um and so we're doing that to the best of our ability. Thanks. Mr. Young, Mr. Hajj, um, based on what you were saying, I'm interpreting that as far as like the insurance aspect goes that our Oracle system is communicating with our insurance carrier on some regular frequency. So instead of it communicating as needed based upon updates as far as new hires or separations. Correct. So there are weekly interfaces that carry the information on the data over from BCPS to uh the different carriers and we have many but I'll let Mr. Corn if he has anything to add to that. Yeah. So uh Mr. We we have m multiple carriers and when when we think about benefits uh we we tend to focus in on um uh healthcare uh

267but we have dental vision healthcare 403bs 457s so all those are interfaces that we're generating data from and transmitting on a regular interval. Um the it it would under the surf it would on the surface appear that we would just simply send a very simplistic file. Uh but there's a lot of nuance to the way the data is outlined. Uh and and there's a lot of rules around if you turn 26 and you have to fall off of your parents coverage, but then you're no longer a family coverage. You're now down to just a husband wife coverage or partner coverage. Uh there so there's a lot of nuance into those um interfaces to pull the data out in a meaningful way that aligns with our vendor. So you know, as as Mr. Hodge was pointing

268out his team is constantly in communication with the um the vendors that we're dealing with. Um they're he's constantly in communication with my team. They're you doing on the-fly updates if there is something that was programmatically outside of the norm. Um but yeah, it's a regular interval every every week. Okay. Thank you. Sure thing. Any other questions, Miss Hen? Thank you. Um on the implementation milestones um listed under the budget and financial go lives. Which of those modules um are part of the budget go live in August versus the financial in October? Uh just the the budget module itself where everyone puts their budget into the system. That's what's going live a little earlier. And then purchasing and financials, general ledger, etc. go on October 8th. Okay. So that would be the budget control, then

269the supplier portal. Everything else would be under financials in October. So just budget budget control or um planning and budgeting. Oh, narrative reporting because I imagine a lot of that data would roll up. A lot of the financial data would have to roll up into the budget reporting. So, uh, well, the budget when it goes live, it's just going to be capturing the budgets for entry for planning purposes when it first goes live and then it'll interface with financials once financials go live and it's ready. So, they just we want it to be ready to put the budgets in it. if if something happens and it weren't then we would have to use our current system for everyone to input their budgets and then accounting would just I mean uh the budget office would just

270need to muscle through and make an interface to pull all the data into Oracle. So, um the the intent is we when the offices start putting in their budgets, they're able to go directly into uh the Oracle module and then it'll be ready to interface when the rest of the system goes live and not for this planning cycle, but maybe next year when entering the budgets, you'll have potentially depending on your level of access access to actuals from the financial modules then for assistance with budgeting. Is that the intent? They they see the actuals now when they input their budgets. They see prior year actuals. That's part of what the visuals they have when the when the offices put their budget together. And they'll have that in the Oracle system also. In Oracle also they'll

271see actuals for each of the components of their budget. They see that now in their old system too. Okay. That that's what I was trying to piece together is how those two systems would interface for or would how the data would be available for budgeting this year for the planning if they'll be able to see the actuals and if that's a seamless type of interface for managers when they're entering their budgets. Yes, they'll they'll be able to see their actuals and then they'll be able to put in their 28 budget at the same time in Oracle. Yes. Okay. Thank you, gentlemen. The next item on the agenda is information which includes the policy scheduled for review in 2627 revised superintendence rules 2361 4302 and 5200 and an updated student counts 2025. The next item on

272the agenda is board comments, committee updates, and agenda setting. Um, Mr. Young, the audit committee. The next audit committee meeting is next Tuesday, June 16th at 4:30 p.m. And the buildings and contracts, the next building and contracts committee will be Monday, July 13th, at 5:00 pm. Thank you. Curriculum Committee, Miss Dleski. Thank you. The next curriculum uh committee meeting will be on June 24th at 4 PM. Thank you. Thank you. Policy review, Miss Pumprey. Um I we last updated on 519 and haven't had a meeting since then, but our next meeting were June 15th. Thank you. And Miss Fong, are you still on to give an update on the equity committee? I'm here. Uh the equity committee last met on May 14th. We featured a student panel who shared their experiences. These experiences included access

273or barriers to classes, programs, leadership opportunities or times when the students learning needs were well supported or were not. Thank you again to those students who participated in the panel. At our last equity committee meeting with equity advisory council on May 21st, we had anformational presentation on family safety planning and standby guardianship. Join us for our next equity committee meeting on Thursday, June 18th at 4 p.m. Thank you. Um are there any um agenda setting items? Our next meeting is not till July 14th. So the agenda setting won't be done till our new superintendent. So if you want to email also, you can. Miss Demanowski, real quick, um since it was brought up again about Nottingham, if it was possible to get the data um made public that was used to make the Noddingham Middle

274School community school decisions determination because the the public information we have right now doesn't match what Right. Okay. And then lastly, I just wanted to um give another round of applause and congratulations to our 2026 high school graduates. But I also wanted to send out a special acknowledgement to Miss Jennifer Martinez as she graduated her first of many I hope senior classes at Lock Raven High School. Miss Martinez hit the ground running with her educator, staff, and students to change the culture at Lock Raven and highlight Raider pride in the hallways, classrooms, athletic fields, and even in the parking lot. I would love for the board and the public to hear from Miss Martinez and on all the great work she and her staff managed to do in just one year and how they did

275it. I believe it will prove to be a great example for all of our schools. Thank you. Um Mr. McMillian. It's not that I' I'd like to see a presentation on the or agenda item, but but I'd like to get an update on the enrollment numbers currently at Crossroads in Rosedale by grade. Uh, and I'd like to see them now just to see what kids are in those buildings. And and I asked for the the feasibility study with the the Eastern Tech athletic program. And I think that that was the end of June, June 29th, maybe the feasibility study from the Yeah. So that's just going to be released at that. Excuse me. I'm sorry. Enrollment numbers in your Friday. I believe it was responded in a sub that it will be a sub available

276on June 29th. Will be a a sub a superintendent's update to the board. Board. Okay. Yes. Thank you. What did you say? I never heard sub before. I like that. Okay. Um Okay. Um Miss Hen, thank you. Um I'd like to get regular school um construction project updates. Those projects that aren't part of our capital improvement plan. Um those were previously approved by boards in the past and by past, I'm talking 10, 20 years ago, um at least. and would like the policy review committee to look at that and take a look at um when the policy might have changed because at some point the board did approve those and that's information that at the least I'd like to start seeing come to the board and for the um PRC to make bring a recommendation

277as to whether we need to reinstate that policy for approval of projects of a certain um amount and higher. Thank you Miss Sleski. Thank you. um in response to um public comment tonight, but also previously, it would be great to have um some kind of presentation or update on the balance of the use of Chromebooks and technology versus traditional learning. Um and so that would be one topic I can and then a second topic would be a looking at that attendance policy uh policy 5120 looking at the um that 10% mark and um updating that. And then finally um on board and uh school staff communication to stakeholders. Thank you. Okay. I'm sorry. I was just writing down. Okay. Thank you. Our next board meeting is Tuesday, July 14th, 2026. Oh, I'm sorry, Miss Framp.

278Go ahead. Thank you. I raised my hand actually during the information and I just waited again, but um in policy review it in one of the items for information, it has the policy review um schedule for next year. So 5120 as the teacher mentioned that looks like that will be incorporated into that. Um but I'd like to know I guess if we were able to consider um policy 8315 um and that one is actually our policy about public participation and speakers at um our board meeting. So, the way that the most recent one was laid out, it back in 2023, it has the different groups and it allows for pretty much like five per space, which is 20 people. Um, and I don't think that we typically reach that amount. And then we also have

279the caveat that if people don't show up, um, that the people can be pulled from the waiting list as is what happened tonight. But even with that, there are still times when that group number four, the individual citizens or students don't get an opportunity to speak. Um, and so we saw that happen tonight. And I also think what happens is people accidentally sign up for policy or sign up for policy but really want to speak in general. So, I' like to look at is for information if we're able to update um policy 8315, specifically our individual um citizens and groups to see if we have more opportunity to get um more speakers available to speak. If there's a topic that's of very important or kind of a hot button topic, for lack of a better

280word, that we have more opportunity to hear um from our individual citizens or students. Okay. Thank you. Okay, the last item on the agenda is announcements. The board's next meeting will be held on Tuesday, July 14th, 2026 at 6:30. Thank you everyone for joining us. Those of you who stuck it out to the very end, thank you very much. And this meeting is now adjourned.