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September 2025 Regular Board Meeting

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2025-09-10
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Jefferson County, MT
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2026-06-11

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001To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. The agenda review and the approval of plans for September of 2020. questions on these will accept a motion to approve the September 2025 claim that presented. Second. >> All in favor? >> Motion boxes. Um the next agenda item is the review of the 2025 August 2025 payroll. This is an action item. So just review. You have questions you can ask. to the previous month's minutes. I think we'll need a motion on this one. So after you're done, I will accept the motion to approve the minutes for the August 2025 Is it the special meeting or the >> uh that was our regular meeting in August? >> We

002had the special one in July 10th. >> Yeah, >> did I put special? I'm sorry. That was my That's my >> error. All in favor? See there is a student activities ledger. So we can move on from that. The budget br actual is just aformational. So if you have any questions, you can ask on the uh any questions. >> Ray, do you have any questions on the budget or factual? >> Okay, we're going to move along to the public comment section. Um the board welcomes and encourages public comment. Anyone wishing to address the board is encouraged to do so with these stipulations. The board may limit the amount of time for a comment if they become extensive. If the speaker seeker begins to infringe on the right of privacy of another, the board may interrupt

003and end the comments at on that issue. Even if the comments are entirely appropriate, the board will take no action on them at this meeting to ensure that others who want to address the same issue have the opportunity to do so. It may be placed an agenda for a later meeting. So, with that being said, do you have any public comments? >> Um, yeah. I just State your name. >> Sorry, Quinton McCaulay. Um, I just had a quick question slash comments about the uh after school pickup and it's, you know, I understand it's all trying to figure out the new system of it, but it seems like it's even more congested than before. So, I was just curious about, you know, I guess how that decision was made. And, you know, right now with the

004good weather, it's not as bad walking around corners always vehicles parked up all the side streets now. But in the winter without any sidewalks, um, how the kids are going to get to the parents vehicles help me walk down the lengths of the streets. So, I guess that's my question. >> Same thing. Um Ashley, um just how the decision was made. Um and I understand, you know, the the neighbors complain about vehicles back to their events. Um an issue I feel, you know, remedy blocks as far as the city rightway. you know, anything like that. But, uh, yeah, same thing. I just feel like it's congested. Vehicles are wrapped around, you know, past the fourway. So, now we have kids going every which direction rather than just kind of out a singular gate. Um, you

005know, just how this decision was made, why it wasn't kind of, you know, sent out in one of the polls that I've seen sent out before like, hey, thoughts, ideas, you know, this is what we're thinking, you know, concerns. It was just, um, a decision that was made and I'm Kayla Park and I'm here also about the new pickup and parking issue. Just kind of backing up exactly what Quinton said and Ashley said that um yeah, I understand that maybe neighbors were upset about the fence idea about the barriers. I think it was a really good idea. And then I've watched kids cross all four ways at that four-way stop while the buses were pulling out and there's kids trying to run across. And so just wondering, you know, what is going to be our

006system going forward, especially once it does snow and all those roads are cut up and their snow mates going to be walking the street to get to the cars and we can't really do if people are thinking it's going to be a poulry system. That doesn't really work when we have kids in kindergarten and first grade who get out five minutes or more earlier than the kids we have in third and sixth grade and we have to wait for them on that side to come out. can't like pull around. You know, that's what you're envisioning. If people just pull up, pop the kid in the car and pull away. That's not really how it's working. >> Okay. Well, the the reason it was a safety issue um when it was and correct me if I'm

007wrong, um people were parking across the street on the property, the person's property across the street, and as kids were coming out, people were backing up. Um and at no time do you want people backing up when kids are around. I mean, that's that's a real issue. And I think I believe that is the biggest issue that we had >> was part of it. And then also um we had a lot of parents because they would pull and they were back up and then we had people that were trying to use the daycare and they were parked in. So we had several complaints from our neighbors at the daycare about the previous one too. That was part of what motivated >> the discussion approached us to figure something to change it. >> So we are

008worked with the city to figure out kind of a route to go. Um there was a fire hydrant that was hit. There was running in front of cars. I mean, it's it's an ongoing problem. It's never >> it's a problem in every school. >> Yeah. It hasn't changed in the car since it >> I I think the biggest issue is that people aren't it's not a pickup. I mean, PE people are stopping >> and and not just picking up and going through is is my understanding. >> Right. >> You know, I almost feel that it worked better um you know, like the part across the street back into it. So, pulling forward out and it's, you know, if you're not going to do a drive lane on this side anymore, you know, make that a

009back in as well. You know, how you are pulling out rather than backing up >> if if they arrive before the kids are out. >> I mean, that's that's what I that's what I looked at. I just over here I've seen more close calls just in the first week of school. I have seen >> Have you seen that out there? Um, well, one thing is at first I was a little worried like on the first day because we did have a couple people that were backed up around the stop sign on the onto Third Avenue, but by the time the buses um were ready to pull out, enough cars had cleared that everybody was over on the west side by the gate. And so that didn't turn out to be as bad as I was

010worried it might be. I think people could be one thing that happens a lot is we have certain people that always arrive really early and they're pulling up just before that gate on the west side which is the same thing they did when it was out here but then people kind of like back up behind them and they don't realize that they could pull they could go all the way through because we kind of it had it mind that you know they could go all the way down to the stop sign on the other side by the gym and But um >> would that would that help if we got everybody to pull up when they come up? >> I like you said, I don't know that any solution is a good one, but I

011just like seems like right now, you know, you're blocking more driveways on the houses across the street that the gate are going out now than there was on this side. There's one house with the park. So >> So buses are out here, >> right? only on the gym side. >> Would angle parking on that side make it? >> I know it's tough to avoid, but I just don't like the backing up when we have kids coming out of the school. And that that's always my biggest concern. >> I don't know if there's an answer to that either. >> You know, they're not letting the kids go out the gate over here anymore. It seems like at least then you're going out. you're straight across to those vehicles compared to having to go out here and

012walk them >> all the way down the street around to the other vehicles. So the cars wrapping around the street >> the corner >> um at the at the beginning but then as it as kids come out they start moving around as people load. >> They they do but in the beginning they are. Yeah. >> It is back 310 315 they are. And today I you know there was car drive around and cars that are just passing through on the street that they were having. >> Yeah. And our what our buses have done because the first day was a problem because they were used to always going right on the Monroe and going around, but they got the buses themselves got backed up. So I suggested to the bus drivers, I said, "Well, what if

013we go up to the bun row, what if you guys went left be at 225 and they pull out and the the the guy that does the valley route and the gal that does the basin route, they like that a lot better because then there isn't once you get south of Monroe and Third, there isn't any parking. But the thing the bus drivers really expressed concern about is they just don't like having people walking through or behind the buses um in the bus loading zone. The other thing we did is because we had a little trouble with our first field trip because in the past we've always had field trips and athletic events load out here, but the problem we have out here is it's pulling parking on both sides. So, we've made it so

014that our this bus loading zone is our always bus loading zone. So, if it's a field trip or a basketball game or whatever, they're just going to always load here and that way. We because the bus drivers also don't really like pulling up on uh Third Avenue between us and the courthouse for the same reason because then they end up we loaded for our Elorn field trip. We ended up blocking a parent in for quite a while. she had just pulled up to come in and say something and so um we thought it would work really well if everybody just knew that's the bus zone and we just got to get in my opinion we just got to get people used to that that's the bus zone now >> do do you think >> this

015is only what are this side too >> so on the west side is yeah prek through five actually if the parents are picking them up and then six, seven, and eight load out here. But we have some kids that meet their older siblings. So, we have them if they're elementary, but they're meeting their junior high sibling, we have them come out what I I call this the fifth grade door because it's fifth way. They come out this east door and they come across this way and meet them there. And then when we started doing that to keep the daycare kids out of the bus living zone, um Ariel now comes out to the back gate. She has a key and any of cuz some of our kinder cubbies and kindergarters go to daycare after school.

016So she now meets them at this back gate. So they just have to walk across the playground and that's where she was she actually really liked that solution cuz she was having to walk across and into that gate to get her kids and go back. So that worked really well for her. >> Three over here. more because we have more parking over here and that way and then if they have an older sibling still >> well we would have to think about I I don't know it depends on like how many families have kids that are in that age group that also have kids that are third and fourth graders going on up. We'd have to kind of look at how many different clumps of kids we'd end up with if we did it that

017way. I think >> mulch pile >> it's the grass. >> That's kind of because you have to go over it or I've seen kids literally brushing cars to try to get around it because it's right next to the parking lane. So that might be something that needs to >> we can move the grass pile can move that would that would be an easy solution there and I had actually thought of that earlier just asking Dance that we can we have other places we can pile grass that's an easy solution >> yeah just you know looking forward um winter is going to be a battle um I think just safety wise to make sure that there's not a snowing that you're having to walk through or over or you know to safely get to the race.

018>> Go ahead. It's storage buildings and then the grass. >> Yeah. >> We don't have a gate over there. And the alley is just grabbed. Well, yeah. Yeah. >> Would would more educating the parent drivers help do you think on moving them up? No. I I don't know. I'm I'm just kind of I'm kind of grasping here. I think the most part, you know, the people get there like you said early, but you know, the people get here when they get here. >> I know. >> So, and like you said, it's a five minute delay, you know, just our kids get out. So, you're you're sitting there for certain amount of time, I guess. I don't know. I to me it seems like they should still be able to let kids go out the gate

019over here where the buses are. maybe have the buses pull up all the way so they're not cutting between the buses. But I mean, like you said, if the buses were pulled up towards the stop sign, then they're only going out behind and then down to wherever else, you know, people are hopefully safe. my comment too for kids who have to walk home going that way. Like I live on that side of town. So it's harder for my kids to like have to go out this gate and then around and through the traffic and past the buses and then all the way down here versus just the other gate that gate that we saw the south gate or and then was told or I was told by that they weren't allowing them to go out

020the front. They had to go out. She's in there. >> Well, we've never allowed Well, technically we've never allowed kids to go out the front at the end of the day. They're not supposed to unless you actually have like the case where a parent's picking them up for an appointment or something and the parent is coming in the front door to pick up the kids. They've always had to to exit. The junior high has always exited um this way. Yeah. And we still I mean it's it's not a new rule, but we still if if a parent wants to come in, they still have to come in through the front doors and check in. So even if it's right at the end of the school day, that part hasn't changed. >> I I think >>

021we want to have like a working group to figure out. >> Well, >> I mean, yeah, between the city I I know you people worked on it a lot. Yeah. >> Um >> Yeah. after the fire hydr something out because it wasn't working. >> Um I don't know. We could do a school safety committee Devon and I and meet someone >> or facilities too. >> Or facilities maybe >> get a meeting set and then >> maybe one for each child. Yeah, it just Yeah, I think >> if we have parents that are interested >> I I think that people have to go out there and watch it in motion >> and just drive through. >> Yep, that's just to cease. >> Drive through over there a lot longer. people. I just think that, you know,

022you're better off to me that, you know, disperse the amount of chaos that's going on if there's still some parking on this other side. So, >> we didn't come here looking. >> No, picking up after school, it's like >> Yeah, you did that, right? Yeah. Yeah. And you know too with the across the street parking I mean even I had that discussion with a couple of different sheriff's officers because technically across the street up to the fence is still actually city rightway and we we can designate like parking and stuff on our side of the street but we can't actually we can that on behalf of the neighbors we can request you know that people don't park or whatever but we don't actually have any way to enforce, you know, if people want to people

023are pulling in or any, you know what I'm saying? I had that discussion with a dad who's a sheriff's officer the first day, but I had the discussion over the summer, too. And it's like they, you know, you can request it, but we can't actually enforce it because it's still part of a public rideway. >> So, I guess what I would suggest is getting a committee together. Um, Lance, you go through the line. You might be a good one to give the knowledge base on that. >> Yeah. [Music] >> Yeah. >> Right. Yeah. But maybe we can get and then, you know, we'll make it open for suggestions. um instead of you know we just get it so people can suggest I know the over where we had it before wasn't working well I know

024that um but to be honest I haven't been out watching this one >> oh my goodness or you know this and >> or maybe putting it out >> and with people that go through the line might see something that would help. >> Yeah. I think that's that's a really good idea. >> Yeah. >> It was a request by the city as the why why things were >> re-evaluated. It was us trying to be good neighbors with the city and trying to figure out a way so their didn't get damaged. >> So, the daycare didn't have their little kids running out behind cars. So, it was a >> it's a good intention, I guess, right? >> Yeah. >> So, if you guys are willing to do a meeting, we can set up or other parents or

025I mean, put it out there for others. >> Let's Let's do that. Let's just set up the board can set up the committee to do it. pick a time and then we'll advertise on our on our website. >> Thank you guys. >> Yeah. >> I hate I hate parking issues because never an answer that works very well. >> What's that? >> He says gas. Right. >> And we're not providing anything. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. I appreciate that. Appreciate your input. >> Okay. Does anyone else have any public comment? >> No. Okay. U moving on to communication and comments. Letters to the board. None. Yeah. >> Um, student issues, hopefully none yet. >> You had a couple incidents, but nothing >> nothing wrong. >> Well, a little bit this morning, but it wasn't.

026He was gone and then I ended up having to take uh someone to the doctor appointment this morning and then he was gone and of course things happened when we were both gone. Uh, Mr. Heaton took care of the most of it. So, that was very Yeah. Okay. So, commendations and recognitions. Any of those as there is no unfinished business. Um, committee reports. I don't believe any of them met. >> No. >> Should we set up a committee for parking at this time? >> So, what I would do, who who's going to be on the committee? >> Yeah. >> And and >> who do we got? facilities could be one or school safety could be another one. Um I >> just I mean I pass the torch willingly but >> Andrea D do do the

027safety. >> Yeah. And then um yeah we we'll just advertise and see if we can't get >> but pick a time that works and then Yeah, we'll get it set up. >> So, yeah. So, on Friday, I want to send Cody who's sixth grade. I'll have him go out that way, pick him up so I can experience the issues that his parents are going through. >> Okay. >> Right. So, had to go through. He's go out. >> He'll go out the west gate. >> He's going to walk around. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Then you got parking you and I got the birds, >> right? >> Yeah, of course. >> So, so I need to find a spot to park. >> Okay. >> And I usually I wasn't there today because I was in another meeting,

028but I being at the beginning school first couple weeks, I was standing at that gate and just directing traffic with the buses. >> I think >> slight stagger. >> It's a small stagger. It's about a five minute It's about a five minute spread. >> Yeah. Because I think the older kids are getting out later and so you have parents that might have kids in >> the car too that are waiting in the pickup line for their older kids. >> So I think that's kind of it sounded like that was part of the issue. >> So they have junior high kids who normally exit up here. They're exiting out there walking all the way around. >> I think they're walking across the >> Usually the ones that have junior high kids are waiting over here. And

029if they have younger siblings, they come like if you have a third grader that has a seventh grade sibling, >> they come and meet their older sibling and go that way together. So that part of it is not really been the problem. >> Correct. >> So at least from my perspective, it's this. >> So yeah, >> The pull through. But I really think that part of it is just a little maybe a little more education with parents. If we can get people to pull all the way through and realize that they can also use that whole space on the west side of the gym that it could help. But >> okay, well then I'll shoot an email >> and then we maybe get it on the portal or whatever. Yeah, Tony could send if you

030sent Tonnie a message, she can send it out to everybody. >> You guys better have in the gym. >> Maybe. >> You never know. >> More input the better. >> I I agree. I agree. I'm just I mean I wasn't. >> If you created like a Google form survey and sent Tommy a link, she could send a link to a survey. >> But what are what are you going to put on there? Uh, do you like what we're doing? No. Yes. What What are your sol I I think a meeting is what's going to work the best. So, you get some input. >> Yeah. >> Huh? >> I mean, >> we can have it in the gym. >> Yeah. >> I have a dentist appointment that night. I'll let you change it. >> I'm going

031to Denver. >> I'm going to have my teeth I'm going to be having my teeth drilled rather than go to this meeting. I mean, I get the I get the vision. I absolutely do. >> Okay, moving on. Um, superintendent report. >> Yeah, we have a small report. Okay. >> Um, we've just did did a few things. Our tech guy started and he's been coming in and helping out quite a bit. The teachers have had problems with the same programs they have problems with every year. um that they have trouble getting themselves enrolled in it and students enrolled in it and it's always been done either by schoolhouse IT or like when Devon was here she helped do it and then Doug did it. So it's switching so much that what I'm doing is I put

032Sam and Connie in charge of one of them. So when a teacher wants to enroll somebody there and they're to me they're permanent structures here at the school. Um and then we'll do the same with the other ones. Um, I'm going to put Jess Craft in in charge of Amplify once I get them straightened out and then we'll figure out somebody to do Acadians in that. But with the changes, I mean, me to get into them was a pain cuz Schoolhouse it had everything and then to try get the cuz they were man administrators, it was just a problem. So, it's it's kind of bumpy right now. Um, but we are going to work through it. We're working through some of it already, but it some of these companies are this Amplify outfit is the

033worst. I mean, so anyway, so we kind of run into that. We did get we did sign a new uh printer contract. Um they are going to supply all new printers. They did supply them, but they didn't put wireless cards in them, so that's why they're not in the classrooms yet. Um, the teachers got black and white ones cuz it's a lot cheaper instead of the color. And then the color printers that they have will be removed when we get the black and whites in. But the black and white printers, the cost per copy for a color was over 5 cents a copy. Cost for black and white was about a half a penny. So it's a big difference. And >> if they need color copies, are they still go to the office? >> Yes,

034they they can. Yes. And I I am going to set up one color printer in the library also. Um just so Tonnie isn't doing it as as long as they would let Lisa know that they're printing so she doesn't have stickers cuz that's the same thing Tonnie goes through too down there if she's got something in there. But as soon as we get the wireless cards, then I'll get them installed and then I can get them put out to the classrooms. it it's really been should have been a smooth sailing situation and it wasn't at all. So other than that um budget it's nice to have Britain back full-time. >> Yes. >> It helps a lot. So other than that I don't really don't have much. >> Thank you report. >> Yeah. Um well, we

035started off uh the school year with 221 kids in our building, which is pretty much exactly the same where we started off last year. Um we completed a a bus evacuation drill with Harlo's on Tuesday, September 2nd. All our kids were here, so we practiced uh got to practice a orderly evacuation of the bus. Um, I think our our back to school barbecue was well attended and um, we got went through a lot of hamburgers and hot dogs and had people in the house. Um, my next comment was about the bus zone, so I'm going to skip that. Um, uh, our 21st century after school program kicked off tonight. I think she had 70 >> kids or something like that, something close to that. um for the afterchool program. Also, all of our after all

036of our uh fall activities are well underway. There's a volleyball game going on right now in the gym and then tomorrow night uh cross country will be in Anaconda and there's a home football game which was should have been tonight but it got re it got moved to tomorrow night. So, we are uh and we are playing 11man football now uh since we made our uh our co-op agreement with Montana City and Clancy Cy. Um and um things seem to be really going well there as well. And uh yeah, we um have been a little stretched out, but we're going to talk about that. We're going to hire some Paris tonight and um that will really uh help us out. We absorbed, you know, as people know, there was quite a controversy in the county

037over our neighboring school districts and we did in fact end up absorbing their population. So, uh, we've just been, um, uh, I think doing a really good job. I I commended the teachers on being willing to be flexible and pivot with us and work. and um I actually went out and one of the people we're going to hire tonight actually went out and recruited. So just to uh help us with these situations. So >> okay, thank you. >> So moving right along to new business um personnel, we have some pair of professionals that Mr. JSON was just discussing um the applications of the >> um so >> the first one is is a nurse to share. >> Okay, do that one first and then the after school pair of professionals are these ones or they

038different >> or do I have the the after schools first? >> No, you have after school second but are the >> No, these are these are different ones. >> Okay. >> Than what we want for the Yeah. So right now JHS um the funding was done through a grant for the nurse we had last year and that was through JHS and JHS no longer is funding that. So, um, they hired a nurse for three days a week, and I would like to have her come in h two half days, the opposite of what Aaron Richie, our county nurse, does so that we have somebody pretty much all the time in the building. Um, it it would work out really nice for us because otherwise Tonnie just gets it's just too much for Tonnie if we

039we can't have somebody in the building. So, I'd like to cut down. We don't have somebody in wielding some. And uh I met with this Elizabeth let and very good. And Eric said was very happy with what's going on the first couple weeks of school. So, I would like to hire her as a part-time nurse and it would be $28 an hour is what the rate is. I to approve Elizabeth as our park to approve Elizabeth for our second. >> All in favor? >> I motion passes. So the after school care professionals would be in the 21st century program. >> Yes. >> Out of the 21st century. Yeah. Thank you. Anderson and Evo. >> Oh. >> Um, and they've been background check and they're ready to go. >> Uh, >> pending background checks. Yeah. >>

040Okay. >> I'm going to get to the hoodies later. >> Okay. Let's accept the motion to approve Olivia Anderson Emma Bowen for the after school program positions pending background checks. >> I make motion to approve Anderson. >> Is there a second? >> I second. Sorry. >> All in favor? and motion passes. And then the other pair of professionals that we're wanting to hire pending background checks tonight are Anthony Yale, Pam Weber, and Hope Nelson. >> And you interviewed them. >> Um Pam is just very part-time. She's just going to be a bus buddy, and she's just uh riding the basin bus twice a day for us. And then um uh Hope is also just going to be part-time. We're working around her college schedule to hire her. And uh Tony will be full will be

041a not really full-time but full-on PAR. >> Okay. I will accept a motion to remove Anthony Pam Weber and Hope Nelson background checks. >> I make a motion to and both Nelson and Pendot passes. >> Before we go on, can I bring up something that I forgot during my superintendent report? >> Absolutely. >> Um there was an issue a question at at Wednesday's staff meeting about students wearing hoodies. Um it the junior high teachers have problem because the kids are stashing things that they're not supposed to have in their pockets. And so I said I I told them at the meeting that go ahead and you know keep them from if you don't want them to wear hoodies that's fine for now until the board was to discuss. I do see their point and and

042Sam and Connie are here just to kind of give their reasons that they do not like it. um and just just to get the input from them. >> Um yeah, it's always especially big thing with science too is we do wild they're bulky and they can cause problems that way. Um number one. Number two, my room is on average 78 degrees all the time or hotter and it gets very hot in there. Um so it's they're just needed in my opinion for cold. If there is something that is cold, we definitely say, "Oh yeah, go get your insurance." >> Thirdly, um what was my third? >> It was in my brain. >> We've had the last two. One of the reasons why we have the vape detector, we've had a lot of kids go down

043the bathroom and then they're the ones we bust and they have them in their pockets. We've also had several um trainings the last that have basically showed us that the hoodies are based there's pockets in them in the hoods. The the strings are smoking devices now. We have a lot of this and just based on how much we've seen of the vaping in school and just the the um the I pick up candy wrappers just get it every day and it's just we we it's it's not punitive it's more preventative. We ask the kids, you know, we tell them, "Wear learning, but please in class, just take them off for a for hygiene, too. It gets 25 hoodies in the same room that haven't been washed in two weeks." It's pretty it's and we have

044kids on it. Yeah. We thought through it. And so again, I just it's not a measure. It's just kind of a preventative measure to the vapes on on your check, eat the candy wrappers and how many do you have vaping do you catch using the hoodie or vapor? >> Haven't caught them using the vape, but we've had students that were going down to the bathrooms with hoodies and buckets other >> and it's hard to say now that that's actually happening because we've had the bait detectors, >> right? And so I feel like we're punching certain the whole >> class for one or two incidents like >> like my kid came home from school I can't wear my school like you can I was like where's that in the policy of course >> it is actually

045in the policies >> and that's that was the intention of the the policy is to wear nothing over the headter not something better. >> We were talking about is like no hoodies. It's just like sweatshirt, but because of just the the different things that we go through. I mean, and I understand there's a lot of people that and I >> it's a fashion statement some of it or it is fashion >> that sort of thing. I totally understand that. Um but I just I talk about how these growing bodies are going through puberty and it's just it is it's starting to get it is it's it's hard it's smelly and you know it's hard to work next to somebody who has horrible body odor and >> yeah but is it because they didn't shower or

046is it because they didn't wash their clothes like I don't understand how >> it's it's and or I mean that's and that's the hard part how do you how do you go and just say okay you you can write your swee but nobody else can. I mean that's just the thing you say okay everybody can do it or nobody can do it and then issues other things you know so it's not it's not everybody and you go through that life with everything you know I mean there's no butts no boobs no you cannot go around showing your is wear the hoodie out. My kids will he'll wear the hoodie outside and that's why I wear it inside >> and I'm cold. >> Yeah. So like >> that's in there too. We have it's jacket keys

047put >> Yeah. It's I think we debate on this every year. >> It is gross. And then I talk about too I mean your body acclimates to a a temperature and if you're outside in 40 and that's I tell the kids all the time. They're like it's cold and I'm like it's 45 degrees. If it's 45 degrees in the springtime, you guys are going out without shirts, without shorts, with shorts on and no jackets. But now that it's springtime and it's 45 degrees, it's chilly because our bodies are acclimated to the warm. >> So your bodies will acclimate to the temperature that's I mean and our school is completely different with the temperatures. >> I walked into Mr. Heaton's room and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, it's so nice in here." And then in my

048room, it's It's so hot. I can't open the windows because hot air comes through. I close the blinds to make it a cave, but nobody can see because I turn the lights off. So, it kind of No, no, no light will make it hot in there. I mean, it's just like I'm like, well, maybe it's just me and my premenopausal body that's going through all these changes. I get hot then I'm cold and I'm hot and I'm really hot. So, I don't know. Could be just me, too. But then I look at the temperature and It's not just side of the side of the school seems to get >> and I don't know about this room. >> Yeah, but there's there's just a lot of different things and I don't know what what it is

049with the students that have to wear the sweatshirt. Is it because they just feel cool in it? Is it like a security blanket that they have to wear it? I don't know. I've never I never liked sweatshirt. I think that they're too big and bulky and I I have a hard time wearing them. And so that's just my preference. And so I don't know what it is that why people why kids people I mean I see adults going in 80° with a sweatshirt on Walmart. I'm like, "Oh god, couldn't believe it." You know? So I don't know what that what that is. And so that is just our we our big thing with it is hiding stuff in it that just not needing it. the bulkiness of them. I know especially I just always said,

050"Well, you take it off when you come in the classroom because it's 85, you know, and then they go outside when it's 45, then they come back inside and it's 85 and so your body." So, it's just it's going to be one of those things. I don't know if there is a solution. >> We don't That's the comment we go with it and then we go to class. >> Yeah, it's it's again it's never been designed as punitive. It's just I want to pick up every day off the floor like that. >> I absolutely see your point. I don't think he's going to give support. It's absolutely not. I watch kids want to do like I check pockets. I find them all sweatpants whoever. So I don't think the candy may help the hygiene part

051and I agree with you. They go outside whenever they're out there. So I understand it's a I was at an event this weekend um for the National Guard. I was amazed to see how many kids had hoodies on, but it's 88 degrees. >> So, I think it's something that's fashion thing now. I'm like, you got cooking in that. No, I'm good. >> So, but I really saw a ton of kids wearing hoodies. Not like the sun the sun on that sun off the hood. It was straight out hoodies. >> So, I don't know. We just wanted to put that out of what we are looking at you know in in the junior high. So I mean I guess whatever comes about that we just >> what does it do with the high school de? >>

052Yeah. >> And I don't I mean we house >> Oh really? disrespectful. >> Yeah. I mean some and some teachers in their classrooms depending on the classroom the teacher asks and they're all usually pretty good about taking off there certain teachers that like >> yeah same with sweatshirts especially the lab I >> right that's what I was just kind of feels We pretty much only own these. She has a few sweatshirts that go on the clothes, but and she wears skirt every day. Like, yeah, she's for those kids that wear I I think for the most part she does wear shirts underneath them, so asking her to take them off or asking them isn't an issue, but there might be some that don't have >> Well, that's Yeah, please. >> Oh, yeah. I mean, if

053that's the case, if you don't have anything else, we'll just remember next I mean if like with one particular student is speaking is do you let the parents know I I'm just speaking for myself my own kids trying to do a shirt that has a like absolutely no >> well I don't always catch it. And I don't mind those. I mean, they're asking, "Well, can we wear this?" Like, "Well, does this have pockets in it?" Or they have those that are, but they're really kind of a polyestery type of material and they're not bulky and they're not big and they're not something that you would go out and wear when you're cold outside, you know, and so I don't mind him wearing them. >> More like a sweater. >> Yeah. You know, it's it's it's

054what I would consider a hoodie is a sweatshirt material. cotton, that wooly type of material that's that's really big and bulky that keeps your body warm when you're wanting to go outside. >> And I mean, nothing's really changed the previous year. So, it's just >> I guess whatever happens, just let's make sure that the parents and everyone is aware because I know the letter that you sent out said hoods, hoodies can be worn. No hoods or hats in in the building. So that I just want mixed messages to go home. >> Well, I was just I was just basing that off of when we did >> when we met about >> in June and approved the thing that was the board expressed that as their desire to interpret the policy that way. So that is

055what I was going off of. But then, you know, with the teachers, one thing I would say too about um hoods is when I was a classroom teacher, I always made hoods come down at least in my room because um the vapes is one issue, but another issue is they use them to conceal ear devices, earbuds, and you can see wires coming up, >> you know, into the ears and stuff. And I was a language teacher, so we needed our ears free so we could learn. And um you know my first cell I my first cell phone of the year that I confiscated I confiscated from a a hoodie pocket because it just like she's saying the bookliness of it makes it an attractive place >> to hide what you're really up to. That's the

056main you know the main thing. I I I mean I've always in the past I mean unless it's something really bad if a teacher like really doesn't want to allow them to do that in their classroom. I mean if within reason I think a teacher should be able to do that with their classroom. I I just don't think, you know, if a teacher I mean like in the science lab, I think that's very much appropriate to ask them to take hoodies off if especially if you're doing a lab. And I I I mean, that's just a what I've always done in the past. I mean, like I said, if it was uh if it was just cuz they didn't like the hoodie or the whatever, that'd be different. But they do have pretty good reasons,

057you know. But it it I mean if if we should do one way or the other across the board then we will get it out one way or the other across the board to the parents in in the handbook. It does says no hoodies. Sam showed me that today but it was >> it was it was understanding of the hoods. It should say no hoods if that's what we wanted instead of the no hoodies. But I know some some students I mean again it's a fashion thing. They will be upset if like you said if that's all they got then it's an issue. >> We're not saying hoodies aren't allowed at school. >> Right. >> So my opinion is do it all the way across the board. If you're going to say no hoodies and

058there no hoodies anyways. >> Okay. >> That is my opinion because you're going to say oh Maui said no moodies. Well Mr. that actually has happened >> and that's going to be >> not with these two but my opinion is just say you know what policy says what no hoodies so you come into this classes don't have your hoodie >> okay we'll just put it out there that >> I mean they can they can wear them to school they just come off going to the classroom >> recess whatever policy says hey look no and glass and in theory maybe it's just I haven't read it but obviously it's a issue in in science right >> and we all seen these kids they wear you know they're wearing hand down clothes or whatever it is and

059sometimes you know they get clothes from their brother or sister >> so they're super even more bad >> so >> yeah I've seen some kids wearing an extra extra large sweatshirt you know and they hang out here and they're down here and But the the hygiene is a big thing. If you go into a sixth or seventh grade, >> it is and honestly, it is everywhere. Even if they're not wearing hoodies, >> I mean, we're clear that they can wear them to school, >> but not in classroom. >> There will be classrooms that they're not allowed to wear them in >> that they're not allowed in classrooms. >> And I feel like only because I don't apply them. >> No. I I will as a parent be very upset in your wardrobe and know like

060you know what I mean like all >> I do. >> So I think that we just really clear how we put it out there. >> I Yeah, I I get that. I >> just because there's a lot of I got a lot of questions. >> Yeah. >> So >> we'll make it clear. Um we'll send one out in the morning to through our portal parent portal. But I I just wanted to have the discussion because I when I listened to them at the meeting I'm going that that's some very good points and that's why I wanted to bring it up because I know what we decide what the board decided. >> Yeah. >> And the discussion was really just no good no hats no disrespectful basically. >> Yeah. >> So >> okay. >> That was

061my last thing. >> Thank you for your time. Okay. >> See you. Thanks. >> So, moving on. Non residents acceptance of nothing. Liquidation of school property is also a standing agenda item. Nothing on it. Um, policy updates is a standing agenda item and we don't have anything for that. And that is the meeting. So topics for the next meeting I assume we only probably parking on there. >> Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. >> So that's something that we got to make sure >> and that that can be um we can discuss discuss that during the committee >> reviews or the committee reports. >> Is there anything else that we need to talk about? It's It's all her. She I feel bad for the business managers cuz it's just although Britain takes it very well. I mean

062I I I think you do compared to some clerks that I've had to work with. So So would you like to update the dress code policy then >> policy is already in there >> they are >> I'm thinking hoodie like wear your hoodie in over your head is what I'm thinking >> and that's I think how we all interpret it >> that's that was the way yeah We could just clarify just send it out. Said we're clarifying the no vote rule and put it explain what it is. >> Yeah, >> absolutely. Wear them to school, >> right? >> And you know, >> make sure that you wear a t-shirt underneath them or make sure you wear something. >> Make sure proper attire. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. And the >> the lower elementary kids usually

063once they get the procedure down from their teachers, they usually just follow that. Most of the challenging of authority, that kind of stuff, most of that says it's dark until we get to >> anything to do with rest is always >> I I Yeah. >> So, >> yeah. >> Well, then our meeting is at 6:28. That's

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