001okay uh okay have you heard from this black boy good afternoon [Music] i'd like to call this workstation at the casual county board of education to order our topics are policy 206 board of education meetings remote participation and that will affect policy 205 also i think dr carter did you have any comments you want to make about these yes um the policies you have in front of you um 206 is a suggested new policy and it does align with the north carolina school board association and which is also a separate policy and we did um we did a reference and give you a copy of our current policy 205 which would not have any changes in it uh this would just be in addition to policy 205 but we did include 205 just for your
002reference but the um as you can see on 206 um it does discuss the um circumstances and goes through you know what a person who is a board member who is participating remotely can or cannot do and again this is alignment with the north carolina school board association taken directly from their policy uh it would affect policy 205 under section 3 of 205 the voting method it says by show of hands and the policy 206 indicates that all votes will be taken by a voice so it would have to be changed or amended in 205 also miss garland on page four four number eight say any costs associated with remote participation other than normal telephone or internet connection shall be borne by the remote uh participant any idea of what that would look like or
003is that straight from the school board association yeah it's straight from the school board association there should not be any cause with our current process okay thank you any other questions or comments so will this need to be on the table for first read yes if if there are no other we'll bring it to the board meeting on monday yes our first read my first reading go ahead he's not finished i was getting ready to make a motion okay uh i would like to make a motion that policy 206 lay on the table for first read and be brought to the next for first read brought to the meeting on monday your emotion would have to include policy 205 also wouldn't it because of the change there do you want to include 205 okay to
004have a motion to place policy 20206 on the table for the first reading at the board meeting monday is there a second second mr battle seconds of motion is there any discussion what's the battle i've got two i have no problem with the remote participation but on 205 i've got two concerns about 205. on the first page of 205 uh one two three four the fifth paragraph where it says the date of a regular board meeting may be changed by the chairman provided that every member is notified of the change personally i have a problem with the word made you know what does that actually mean i think that needs that needs beefing up a little bit as to why in case of emergency situation to me it does not say no i don't know
005how the rest of y'all feel but uh i i think that needs a little work all right the second part of that 205 is on page ah let me get it it talks about board committed on page uh page page nine board committees i've been here for 13 years and i've never had a community and most boys have what they call a finance committee a personnel committee whatever we don't have board committees i think the intent is good but if we're going to do that i think we need to go back and look at that one oh we don't have it those are two things i have about 205. you said i'm not clear on what you're saying what i'm saying is i think the superintendent needs to take a if if everybody is comfortable
006with what we've got that's fine but i take exception to those two items uh i think they need to be beefed up a little bit especially on the first page where it says may there needs to be a reason why you would change a meeting date all right and the second part about the board committees we've never had them since i've been in this county yeah so to me it doesn't need to be there and the reason i'm saying that in between meetings a lot of school boards have committers that do the work and then bring it back to the board personnel finance uh there may be a couple more and that saves the board time more or less it's it's not an action they can take but it's the gathering of information to present
007to the whole board and since i've been in the county the board does you know the whole thing i wondered about that too miss blackwell well he just uh elaborated on what i was gonna ask as to what committees uh that the board you know should be a part of and uh in other counties or with the state parts of the rules should there be committees should there be like he just said finance committee personnel com you know i'm just naming should there be committees uh even though we haven't had them should we have had them and i guess we'll need to do some investigation okay dr carter i believe this is something that was brought up briefly a few years ago because i think we talked or brought up a lot of districts every
008district is different and his needs are different we'll have an official board meeting perhaps on one day of the month and then the other day is set for committee meeting but um so you'd have that one official board meeting and then the committee meets and then the recommendation if there's any from the committee would come back to the board on the regular meeting and that would basically be the first read or whatever the recommendation but from what i understood and i may be certainly wrong was that the board had pretty much had a consensus that instead of having different people in different committees that you all wanted to hear the same thing at the same time it's why you don't have committees but i think it was pretty much probably left in there should you
009ever change your mind or have a need for a community but that was my understanding but we'll i'll be glad to do whatever it is mr battle the other piece of that is there are some boards in the state that have nine members some have 11 members when you have a big group like that that's where they have permits to save a little time rather than trying to do everything in a regular general meeting uh like i say the the committees don't make any final decision they just bring recommendations back but since we do have it in 205 i think we need to clear that up you know either we're going to do it or we're not going to do it that's the reason i'm saying and it varies from county to time any other
010questions or comments miss hudson i can i can see where uh mr battle said paragraph five on page one uh if you start out in case of emergency or unforeseen circumstances or whatever the chairman may change that it as mel said that just sounds like you decide you want to change the board meeting you change it but i mean i know you wouldn't but i understand what he's saying from that if you just change the first part of that sentence the date of a regular board meeting may be changed in case of emergency blah blah blah whatever you may think would be by the chairman providing that every member is notified of the change it needs to be a reason why you would change a board meeting yeah i agree with that yeah that's something
011we're gonna would that be sufficient let's battle you that would be fine with me because let's say you woke up i'm not feeling well i want to go fishing that's chained to me i'm not saying you would but i'm saying that needs to be cleaned up yeah okay because if you were to call and say we're not gonna have a meeting i'm i won't know why you say yeah i think that just cleans it up and do we want to continue to have the the board committee section or take it out yeah mrs garland i think that's what i want to speak to concerning the board committees maybe we can um have a consensual vote to take it out because we had talked about it at one time and i wouldn't have a problem with
012taking it out if we saw the need to have committees then we could always come back and put it back in but right now to just clear it up just to have that old medic taken out ms blackwell i guess i would ask the superintendent what committees could that you foresee that could possibly uh we would need a committee for um but you know since this is here well normally like at budget time the committee would hear about the different need for finance during uh getting ready to gear up for the school year that the instructional committee would hear about what's occurring with instruction so it's just the various technology of community about if we need additional chromebooks or what have you but from what i understand you know there would be a need to
013share and share what that committee's already heard with the entire board so really that committee would just be hearing it for a second time from what i heard from the board earlier so we're saying and a consensus just to take that section out this hudson yes just take it out take it out okay black wolf yeah okay so that doesn't feed that any other discussions about policy 205 or 206 if not all in favor of the motion to place those on the table for the next meeting please indicate by raising your hand oppose the same motion carries unanimously i have a question yes ma'am this couldn't be considered first reading i mean this is an official meeting i'm just asking i don't know no it could be uh you've been you're being presented the information
014and uh and this is a work session and that the regular meeting is when you present it for the first reason which has to lay on the table and we will have that with the change right right the next policy that we're looking at is policy number 605 graduation requirements um yes carter this started off with uh what was the simple can you update the part about latin honors and it turned into a we see this need this need and this need so there were quite a few changes to policy 605 in addition to a new policy um based on school board association so um as we did take calls to 605 you have an updated policy because we saw even today some some corrections especially in the occupational course of study section so um
015the one you have in the package needs to be and i can share with you what those those corrections are but the first thing this does is align it with the current school board association which is updated to the current guidelines for the course of study that's currently in place as you can see um in here there were we took out the current one had you know 2013-14 and of course we've updated it to um you know before 20 20 21 and uh students that enter uh in after 2021 and those who are entering and 21-22 so there's those three changes that are in here if you can go on through on page two you can see some of the changes there just the wording of changing counselors to school counselors which is more in
016line with their terminology one of the things that was brought to our attention was that even though this is straight from the school board association like if you look on page three as an example you can see social studies and and um i if you don't mind mr hudson shared with me that even though this is the guidelines for our students the way it is provided from the school board association it is uh sometimes difficult to read for parents who understand and you know what's exactly required so if you do vote to places for first read um i would like the opportunity to keep everything in the content as it is but maybe make it a little bit easier to read where we might have some bullets in there or you know this or that
017and i know they did it because of the length of the policy but you know it may make ours a little lengthier but if it's easier to read we certainly would like that opportunity um as you can see we did add in the local requirements and of course the school board association leave those blank um you know in up to the district to put those in um if you go on through i was trying to to get into the occupational section because those are the changes that we made actually today if you look on page nine where it says um let me go back one page eight uh that's the first section for the occupational um we did um this is for the students who entered prior to 2020 and 2021. um on the i
018think that on page nine what we added was the 600 work hours it is on page nine for local on the one you did received it had i think some dashes there and we did add the completion of iep goals and objectives to the right side under other requirements um on page 10 of 23 the same thing we put under the local requirements the 600 work hours and then on page 11 we did the um again the electives would be five and then we added under local the completion of the iep and the portfolio to make it 27. and then added underneath that the asterisk and again this is from the school board association of how those 600 hours are calculated and then the same thing on page 12 and this is for students who
0199th graders who enter for the first time on 2122 moving forward they did change the the it's still the same according to mr showalter it's still the same it's just the wording from the state they've changed the wording just a little bit but you can see they don't have anything called work hours in there but they're all embedded according to mr show walter and if you look below you know it is a total of 600 hours steal but it's not um it's not just laid out 600 hours it's embedded in the different areas in the um in the course of study and requirements and then on the page 13 we added the section about latin honors uh that is that is currently what we do and then on page 14 we try to make early
020graduation consistent with what actually occurs and we put in there that um sometimes depending on semester the semester may not end by the first board meeting so we put in there that uh would be no later your approval of early graduates would be no later than january because it may be the second board meeting it just depends on uh the day ms hudson that was one of the i'm gonna stop you there because that was one of the things that i think is a little vague right there if it can't be detailed enough to say because january that's gonna it could be any time in january you know and i think they all need to come in at one time um so you don't think if we put no later than the second board meeting
021we could yeah because i think it needs to have a if we say no later than january a parent or student can say january 28th i've decided i want to do early graduation that's just i think it needs to save our second board meeting i think that's a very good suggestion we just the first board meeting had a conflict sometimes you know when the semester ended semester ending we used to do it in december the student makes the request of the principal and it's approved and and signed off by the principal and then we approve it right it usually comes from the counseling department it's a list um don't know how everyone else feels about it but it gives you too much leeway i think just to say january i think that's a good idea
022that's blackboard i believe those things other than adding references and cross references at the end okay that's everything for 605 mr battle a couple of things on 605. we still have listed according to what i'm looking at njrotc why is that that is straight from the school board association we need to take that out we need to take that out because it used to be i guess it still is ten percent of your student body must be enrolled and our numbers kept falling so we the navy dropped it so we don't have it if it comes back then we can put it back in there okay uh second point page 13 and i'm looking at it both ways on number c1 where it says latin on the graduates may be designated by the principal on
023the basis of criteria established by the superintendent i still have a problem with the word mate either you do it or you don't do it and then when i'm looking at this page the new one it says 607 uh it goes into class ranking two like i said before the way you get to junior marshals is by class rank you're not doing away with class rank somebody's going to be number one somebody's going to be number 174 either way you cut it so it to me why would you use the word made you know if we're going to do the latin honors that's what we're doing so even with the the laude and magna and the summer we've always had that it was based upon their gpa whatever it was that's how they felt that's
024the kind of cause at the award graduation so i wanted to be consistent all the way throughout that's that's what i'm saying so what you're saying is instead of letting honor graduates maybe we're going to say our designated that was that's the decision that was made or will be will be yeah will be and then it goes into part about class ranking it tells you what to do how to do it uh and being consistent with that because i've known in high school situations one grade can make a difference a b or an a could determine who's your uh valedictorian solution or whatever you want to call it so i just want us to be consistent with that um i think i had some help on i think it's on page 15. okay well that
025that takes care of that because you i've already talked about on page 14. those two things with the changes that uh we're looking at with policy 605 how would that affect the catalog here do we need to make some adjustments here it should be a line should be alone mrs blackwell mr battle says something about we had to have the 10 for to have the rotc so is that a possibility that that could come back i'm just asking i know we have to take it out for now but my experience out here my experience has been because i was involved in that our numbers every year was right on the borderline in fact by next to last year we went below 10 but they let us keep it and then they saw a trend and
026i could understand that i mean we tried to get kids encouraged to do it but just could never get over that home and even with the number of students we have now uh we would need at least 65 or 66 kids which i think is doable but then you got to ask yourself is it something you want to do personally i thought it was a good program that's what i was going to say yes i think other schools will tell you the same thing but our numbers just and i'm going to say this to you now it depends upon top to bottom how you run your program because to me that's a part of your curriculum not your not your curriculum but a part of your curriculum and uh it's a it's a successful program
027if you do it correctly and it may be something we can explore in the future uh because some kids need that program i think they can benefit from that i feel we have a lot of successes at bartley henson high school when we had the program i for one know my daughter was part of that program and it was good it was good leadership skills good leadership skills ms hudson i agree with both the navy was the one that pulled the plug they gave us you know certain amount of time and we couldn't get the numbers up and they pull the flood on page 18 when it speaks about the alternative school i think this is the wording just sort of again i think about our policy being clear the first line says students who
028are serving a suspension of any type may not be allowed to attend or walk the stage at graduation and then the next paragraph there is an exception for those students that the alternative program coordinator high school principal superintendent considered to be too disruptive to the school environment i i just think they may not be allowed in the next paragraph you're given the reason why i i just don't know i think students are i think it would be better if it starts off with students whose assignments would end at that you know students that are enrolled in the alternative program could be allowed or will be allowed to graduate and then you go into that second paragraph there will be exceptions if there's uh your bad behavior you've got that word may up there that we've
029been talking about again students who are serving a suspension of any type may not be allowed and it doesn't say why up there in that paragraph but it talks about that in a second it's just a wording thing for me yeah i agree that the may could could end up getting you in trouble because somebody might be allowed and somebody else not allowed so we need to our students need to know if they're at the alternative program and they do the right thing and they you know aren't a behavior problem and they don't pose a danger they will be allowed to graduate but if they are serving in that situation and they do pose that danger or multiple infractions then they can't you're talking about walking the stage right not congratulations yeah okay because that
030was the first sentence right but you kept saying graduation and then it talks about in the last one and will not be able to participate in the graduation ceremony it's still talking about that in the second paragraph but it jumps from the first sentence to the second paragraph then it talks in the middle of the end of the first paragraph that they can so ms blackwell so what has been what has happened in the past have students been allowed to walk the stage if they were in the alternative program yes he said no she said yes not all the time not all the time but they are given these the past few years they have been i think it's been a case by case i don't think we've so there's no grievances that's that that's
031what got us in trouble yeah i'm just gonna say i'm just being honest with you uh some school systems of course have their own alternative graduation by itself some allow them to some of them don't and it's like you said it's a case by case uh i had a situation one time at a graduation practice on a friday kid didn't march that saturday morning because of an incident that happened back in practice so i don't think we need to box ourselves in in doing this because uh you can create problems that you don't need that can definitely happen but see the average thing about it is if it's in policy and the parent or kid knows that you know i can't do this or i can do this if i do this that's the whole
032thing we don't need because that's what we've had we've had it one way you'll have it the other way well it needs ms blackwell what what is the criteria i think you said case by case so what checks and balances that you have that you use based on case by case this one can this one can't you got to have some criteria that's being used to say one child can and one child can't i don't know what the infractions may be but do you have that criteria there we go i i think i'm i'm sorry ms hudson go ahead i'm just saying i think here it says who are too disruptive pose a danger to students as faculty or had multiple discipline infractions during their assigned time in the alternative program those are the ones
033that could not miss hudson i think you've made that point this section one section i'm talking about kids that are already enrolled in the alternative program the example mr battle gave was of a student who was just a regular student in the regular program but the principal has the authority to bleep a kid from uh the graduation program hopefully that's in a high school handbook somewhere or in our policy somewhere but this is just talking about the alternative school kids i don't remember was it in the high school policy i think it is okay must battle a question of clarification was a student did you suspend him sure he said so he was under suspension so he couldn't have walked him no no no no that happened on a friday before graduation on a saturday
034morning oh okay that's what happened but he's still enrolled and you had that heart you would have already so you had to and i mailed his diploma hi okay all right yeah you're going to clean that up some and we can look at it and see when we have a next meeting any other questions about 605 for comments we need a motion to put it on the table has garland has made the motion is there a second oh miss second motion is any discussion or comment all in favor indicate by raising your hand suppose the same okay policy 607 class rank dr carter hey um we took out uh on 605 the section on class rank and um aligned it with a separate policy with school board and you can see here um it's it
035does um it does address the things that were listed in section of eight under school rank but we did add the part about the honors the latin honors and how they'll be recognized um as you know at the graduating ceremony and then we explained of course what that means with whom and law some of them lost we did leave the section in their back class ranking because class ranking is still listed on a student's transcript and is listed for college and universities to look at as well so class ranking is still something that is utilized but at graduation it will be based uh students will be honored based on uh latin honors thank you and mr battle let me ask a question uh when i was there for graduation purposes we went through the end
036of the first semester of their senior year is that still the case or do we go to the end of the year and then calculated i have to verify but i thought it was after the third quarter no not okay here's the reason i'm asking that i remember kids went through their first semester of their senior year and they didn't take what i call the rigorous courses in the last semester because they didn't want to mess up their gpa i've heard that statement all right but what i'm asking in this what do we do is it the first semester ending or the third quarter or the end of the school year that's what i'm asking i would and for the purpose of the class rank i would say all the above because the students aren't
037competing against themselves any long others any longer they're just competing for their own rank on their transcript so we may have five people that are listed as number one we may have five people listed as number two on their transcript it's just that you know whatever they need for their where like if they apply to a university if that university wants an update of where their class rank is when they apply we can give it and then if they want another one when they graduate we can give it okay let me go a little bit further with that um on the on the scholarship i'm involved with there's an application process that includes their high school transcript that transcript goes through the first semester of their senior year because the deadline for the scholarship application
038is in april of their senior year so they wouldn't have the end of the year courses and it has on there what their gpa is is has weighted or non-waited and then it may say number two of 276. that's what i'm saying and i don't mean to be vague but it can vary because that scholarship because of the deadline had everything pulled at a certain time if there's another scholarship later it could be pulled at a circle i understand that i guess i'm asking i don't want to confuse you i just want to know what we do i think it's being pulled whenever the deadline of the scholarship is because i know what you're saying because when we were doing class rank as the value corner salutatorian that time frame mattered because that day was
039the deadline but now that we don't do those there's not a hard core deadline to determine class rank because every student is individually on their transcript there's no more competitiveness between students as far as right i see that's the computer that's the confusing part to me because like i said before body answer has 174 graduates according to mr stokes somebody's going to be number one in class right somebody's going to be number 174 way you cut that uh not necessarily think about it now i've never had a tie since i've known it to be there that was the that was the case when there was seven point and all the details but now the ten point grading scale that was the whole reason we could have we could have five number ones five number twos
040five number threes and not have anybody is that one but you know my position on that i don't agree with that i voted against that but i just want to know how we do it that's all i'm asking there's no hardcore deadline any longer for class rank because it just goes on their transcript it's different from the way we did it and the way we're doing it now because connie when she was doing the programs we used to sit there until way late at night to get the programs done because they couldn't do the grades until after the last exams and we couldn't do the magna or the suma or whatever until then what about students that graduate in january that first semester graduated in the first semester are they given a rain well it
041would be on their transcript of whatever they are yes and it's just like the junior marshals that's done at the end of their is that at the end of their junior year um i would if you'll look into that and share the information with us that would be i think everybody would like to know southerners and if we get a question about it we'll be able to answer it any other questions or comments about policy number 607 class rankings okay if not i need a motion to put this on the table for the next meeting i'll make a motion that we put policy 607 on the table for the first read until the next meeting we have a motion is there a second there's regularly seconds of motion any discussion or any comments all in
042favor indicate by raising your hand closed the same carries unanimously okay master let's see the master board training if i may switch with your permission switch that with number five so we can talk about the meetings this summer because that might affect when we want to do that is that a problem okay um there was some discussion about people wanting planning vacations or something and needing to know if we were going to have two meetings in january i mean in july we usually only have one and just personally i had to when we planned our family vacation i won't be here for the first meeting but i mean we've got a vice chair who could could handle it but i just wanted to know if we want to have more than one meeting in july
043what's the battle well that's not that's not the reason i put this on here the reason i put this on here about summer hours was because after the employees worked 10 hours i don't think we need to have a meeting at night we need to have it during the day while they're here oh okay that's the reason why i put that in there all right well but it also affects the meetings that we have because the way i look at it it could possibly be it might not be no more one time the june meeting the second meeting if we met in july one time that could still be a morning meeting and then the august meeting the first meeting would be in the morning and it wouldn't affect the second meeting that's the reason
044i put this on here okay i don't think they need to do that i had a question ms garland last year did we not have all day meetings we didn't nope we didn't for the summer and i just think that's a long time for them to work 10 hours and then stay with us too it happens during the day i thought i thought we had day meetings during the summer well that's what yeah you were talking about weren't you having day meetings we did that i think we did that especially since we kind of run into that problem of people working 10 hours and then having a board meeting so we could set them all at nine o'clock do we want to have just one meeting in july i thought typically we had one meeting
045in july uh in the past we have but i just wanted to clarify that before we go into talking about the board training do we want just to have the one meeting in july if so you want the first meeting or the second miss hudson can we move it because that first meeting is usually the fourth of july right week so we usually move it to the next week or the third we usually move it to not so it's in the middle of the month what is the date of july four all right i think because of you know school will be starting or and you'll be hiring new employees and all of that i guess what is the preference of getting things done is it better to move it toward the end yes yes
046dr carter from our standpoint i think it would be more beneficial to do it on the 26th because a lot of people are on vacation and then preparing for it however and this is you've allowed me this in the past as well but if you have a super strong employee candidate that you'll allow me to pull you in between meetings so that we don't lose that candidate um but that you know i think if we had it more to the end i would have more information to bring to you um but again we'll be glad to do whatever you so choose okay i'm agreeable you're 26 26 would work for me what's the battle doesn't matter is beggarly we're saying the 26th not the 12th is that what we're saying right yes either one it
047don't matter to me okay miss blackpool i think that's okay okay so we will not have a meeting on july the 12th we will have a meeting on the 26th one today and during the day all the meetings this summer will be during the day except you know where in that time frame do we need a motion for that yeah so i need a motion to have one meeting in july on july 26 in the morning and that the meeting in june the second meeting in june be a morning meeting that covers them both then mcbell okay i move that we in june the second meeting be a morning meeting that we not meet july 12 that we meet on july 26th which is a morning meeting as well okay i got a question mr
048battle has made the motion is there a second i'll second miss garland seconds if there's any comments or discussion ms begley did you have a question somebody helped me out on the gene meet and what days those are the june meetings with us yes 28th okay got you another one ended the 14th 28th the 14th is uh is that have we already started then you started your four days yes yes that's a morning meeting anyhow yeah that's right that's right um miss hudson just carry on but i will not be able i have already a scheduled 9 30 appointment on june 28th it's taken me three months to get so i will not be there on june 28th okay what's the battle it's father's day june 13th 20th june 20th is there any other discussion
049or questions or comments if not all in favor indicate by raising your hand oppose the same motion carries unanimously all right now back to master board training and the reason i had wanted to bring up the other question is uh connie got me the dates in july for master board training and they have it the 28th and he could do it the 28th and 29th that would be the week of the the meeting you could do it that wednesday or thursday after a meeting in in july if you're interested or you have the other dates he could do it july 20th 22nd or the week of july 12th and then the dates in june i don't know what your preference is for another master board training can you give those days one more time uh
050june 14th through the 17th he could do it june 23rd or 24th the week of july 12 which we've canceled that meeting so i wouldn't recommend that july 20th through the 22nd and july 28th or 29th we have a meeting on the 26th that monday we could do that wednesday or thursday and it'd be all in the same week if you want to to schedule it one of those days ms blackwell and i like that july 28th through 29th since we already gonna be with the meeting on the 26th we're not going to keep everything in the same week you know about a time frame okay each day and he comes no it's just one day oh yeah we could either do it wednesday or thursday probably i don't know wednesday wouldn't be a bad
051day but um what time would we start connie do you have any idea did he ever indicated yeah i would think we were going to do that too okay do we have a motion to try to set that up on the 28th of july which is a wednesday at um about nine o'clock yes for the second master board training which is [Music] solving problems solving problems and making decisions okay do i need them emotions i make a motion that we would um do the next next master bullet training on july the 28th um july 20 starting at nine o'clock okay do i have a second is beggarly seconds of motion is there any discussion or comments does not all in favor indicate by raising your hand opposed the same motion carries unanimously okay we knocked
052out both of those the plaque for bartley anthony senior high i know we had discussed that a while back as we're getting closer to the opening of the building i thought we all might want to revisit this to decide what we wanted to do so the floor is open for any comments or questions that anybody might want to make you have samples [Music] from dillard north and south that were on your table when you came in and you have the recommendation of the architect this battle i've studied this before and i stated again there are no school buildings in caswell county that have a county manager's name on it the plaque there are no school buildings in california have border commissioners names on it and there's pros and cons both ways as to who you
053put on there this has been uh what a little over two year process board members have gone new board members have come on and there's no right way to do this or wrong way to do this in my opinion i was talking to a board member in another county they did the same thing what they did was the people that were serving on the board at that time when they did their decision when they made the decision to build the school no no when they decide to put the black on okay so it's it's different ways to do it and i don't know the right way or the wrong way any other comments or questions so what about the the uh since he says there's no right or wrong way uh the current board of
054education members and the current uh board of commissioners adding putting those on the plaque i have a question why would you put the board of commissions because it uh it had to go through them for processing they're part of the process and so if they are part of the process i think that why not include them on there every other school that's been built they were part of the process like you said there's no right or wrong way and some have it and some don't so if there's no right or wrong way why not now there's none that have motor commissioners and the commissioners were involved in all these right here it couldn't have been done without him i was looking at this and that's from the architect yeah but yeah i was looking at
055he gave this as an example copy so i was looking at the architect and we had to go to the board of commissioners for approval so i think it would be um a good way to work together ms begley i talked to a county commissioner about this and their answer were not on any other ones not on silent battle by no means but i wanted to know would that you know be a good relationship and i was told and i could tell y'all who y'all talk to it don't mind if you want to know but i don't usually name it and uh they they said no the other schools has done it that other counties have neither they said what i'm sorry no they've never been on any of them in the past and the
056other counties that this one man came from said they didn't do that and he said he didn't think it should matter to any person it wouldn't make a relationship better or worse mrs carlin i would like to see at least the current board member's name be on the plaque [Music] i've got a question let me know a question of statement any other questions or comments ms hudson i had one time had said uh and just be quiet donna that anyone that had worked on the process i would love to be able to see whoever had worked to get this done and the vote passed i don't know if that's feasible or not i how can it's hard to really say when this started it feels like it's been going on so long and i see
057what you're saying too the current would just be easy to be done with but then you know i hate to see mr gwen be left off and i've told y'all before miss gwen ever since i've been well before i came on all the meetings i came to miss gwen was there pounding the payment about this school so i feel like if we do pass then how can you leave her out even though she doesn't work for us i miss gwen joanne glenn that was one of the big things harry was always said when i was at meetings before i come on the board how she was involved with this how she you know so how do you put it where it's fair for who's on and who's not the biggest concern my biggest concern and
058starting to let name other folks is that you're going to leave somebody off yeah and the citizens of caswell county voted on this yes and they approved it so i'm fine with the sitting board however this board wants to to do it of course i'm coming what's the battle i understand what you're saying mr but there's no way you're going to leave them out because i know when the process started and i know who the board members were and i can tell you one two three four you had miss daily you had miss johnson you had mr gwen and you had miss sergeant and you haven't satisfied they were involved in this problem i understand then ms beverly was saying miss gwen right and then you you know if if you start getting outside our
059team won't beat that we had a renovation at the high school but mr roland was principal his name is on the placard over there yeah got me on the vocational building when i was vocational director it's whoever did it at that time there's been no consistency that's what i'm saying and i don't care how we do this we're going to get complaints from all kinds of signs oh yeah miss berger can we put the current and then uh special thank to the community or something like that since the people voted on it that would be everybody what's the battle well if you're going to do that you got to go back that's how north and south would be okay i think that's how dylan was built but we made him false i know did we
060have to do a referendum when we did north and south nine million dollars did it was it voted over by the citizens that's how we got it i don't mind putting the sitting commissioners on there the sitting commissioners okay but then you've got some that were involved that would not involve you know what i'm saying well that's just like with the with the board members who were involved are not involved now so maybe the simplest way to do it uh is just just to do it as dylan just do the current board i'll entertain a motion somebody wants to make a motion share one thing dr parker ms stanley just said that she would like the same thing that ms hudson has said about the current board i hope i said that correctly that's the
061current current board of commissioners is what i said education okay first said that education i'm gonna make the next big current board of education only i didn't say that i think i read the newspaper before i did not say barely made the motion to include the to include the standing board of education yes sir numbers oh second ms garland is second the motion is there any discussion or comments of course mr battle uh her motion needs to it needs to be clarified because that would also uh the way she said it it does not include the superintendent or the architect that needs to be included in that okay you want me to review that i mean that's what i would suggest okay will you take your second back would you like to amend it now
062yes sir out and you got the general con yeah yes superintendent architect general contractor and the standard board of education similar to what we're looking at for middle school yes ma'am yes okay you've heard the emotion is there a second a second that's gone in seconds of motion is there any further discussion or comments all in favor indicate by raising your hand oppose the same motion carries five to one may have clarified somebody may i clarify so basically you want it like north and south yeah well it would look more like north or south yes okay it would look more like north or south if that's what we're going to do yes sir and okay can i get a clarification too do you want this year since that's the first year the students will be
063going into even though the entire project will not be complete until 2022 if you want 2021 or 2022. i think when they go in i think it's going to do it they're going in okay yeah that's what we did with dylan they first went in in 2002. the north and south was managed to okay thank you and the last item is the 20 21 2022 school year dr carter um i have you just a kind of a summary of what we're looking at as well um for next year and you know right now we're just basing things on how we currently are and we know with everything that's underway things can change as far as covid we hope it's continuing to improve we also know that there are a lot of bills being filed right
064now in the general assembly that have crossed over and that could impact education for next year but we did survey our parents uh over the past several weeks to ask if we did offer any vertical learning next year you know would you be interested knowing that you need to have internet and that um you know you would have to show success in you know virtual learning as well we did have over 100 students parents respond to 100 students that's from kindergarten all the way up to 12th grade that they might be interested in it that being said uh we are going to send something out over the next week to try to get some more commitment to that um because we know that not everybody is going to be comfortable because you know we're hoping
065to go back under schedule a for everybody when school starts um you know that means five days a week for everyone but we know there's still going to be some people that you know don't feel comfortable doing that we want to make sure that we're providing opportunities for them as well so um we're seeking some input to see if we did offer that uh would you be uh would you sign on the dotted line basically to say that i want to remain virtual and of course they would need to have internet access and they would need to have you know success in in um in the past virtual learning now what that means for the teaching standpoint is you know if we have enough we're going to try to you know move those students into
066a a class that would be a total for virtual learning um we're trying our best not to have teachers doing double work but it would be on a case-by-case basis so right now i can't give any for not the night answers on that because we don't know the numbers because we all know an interest survey is going to be high so when we get the commitment back you know if we get a fraction of that you know i'll i'll be happy so we want to make sure that we're providing everybody the opportunity so that they're ready to come back to school force so i just wanted to pretty much give you an update of where we are mrs begley on your survey for the high school students are we going to make sure we include
067that some courses will require you to come back because i had a parent to yes that's what she told me my kid's going to stay virtual and when she start telling me what they was gonna take i never said anything to her but we need to make sure we let these parents know if your kids they will not get certain classes if if it has certain hands-on hours they cannot do it virtually exactly because i mean i know a kid who's doing very very good better at home than he was at school so my concern is the staff yes we've got 100 people that are interested from k-12 i mean how we're gonna if you got 10 from the high school and 10 from the middle school and 10 from each of the elementary schools
068how are you going to do that without overloading the teachers we've talked about all sorts of scenarios we've even talked about a uh if it's elementary doing a one person if we had enough for grade level in the district uh taking the students from the different schools and having one virtual teacher but they'd still be assigned to their home schools i mean we've even talked it really depends there's so many different ways we can make it happen but it just depends on those numbers we receive back and some teachers actually prefer to teach virtually and so we're hoping to to align it uh and we have other districts that are smaller too and you see how they're doing it and they're saying that you know some of their teachers are going to have smaller class
069sizes but teach those so it really just depends on the situation and we're trying our best to make sure that it works for everybody not just the students but also the staff as well okay any questions or comments is because i kind of like to know more before i mean i think it's a great idea but the staff being overworked in a bind that i have concerns with i would like more information exactly in detail what is going to have to be done and who's going to be doing what before i commit yes i'm for this i think it's a big concern we do not want to we don't want to put the teachers in the situation they've been in in the past year and a half or year or whatever with them trying to
070do all of these different things because it's burned them out i mean they're just stressed out and tired but of course did you want to i i was just going to say we have the very same concern and but we can't make the plan until we know the exact numbers that are truly wanting to go down that avenue tell me how we are doing in the course and end of grade testing yeah i need that um everyone is uh holding that if you're a virtual learner you are expected to take the end of course rate or end of um end of grade test as well that is a even though um at the school it cannot be taken verbally that is a mandate from the state and our parents aren't aware of it absolutely they're
071in the process now taking the test apparently good mrs mine's on testing two on um elementary i mean i understand that kindergarten through second will not be going to school because the other the teachers got to help with grading okay in the assessments of i know kindergarten through first which how are we are we really are we testing them like one-on-one like we normally have to how is that being done if they're not going to be at school i don't well it's not it's not an eog for them and those things are ongoing so a teacher can you know what they're doing during those virtual days is doing class work with you know their assignments but it doesn't need to be an assessment day those particular days so their assessments could have occurred afterwards and
072they can occur before but just those two days are not considered assessment days so they're going to have time these teachers to get this destiny yes if you have any particular concerns we'll be glad to address that okay but yes any other questions or comments you might want to to mention that now and let people think about it and bring it back one of the things i had uh shared today with uh mr owen was as we were and i've shared it before too um is with the school board association and and the policy updates that are ongoing and i know that um the concern has been brought here that you know a lot of the board policies are not exactly aligned with the school board association and so like the school board association has
073policies 1 000 through 9 000 and within all those policies you know they have pulled out policies for the various things and and the you know policies for casual county are not the numbers are not in line with the school board association which that's not a big deal but more importantly a policy that you might have for instance the graduation policy is policy 600 and something but embedded in that policy might be snippets of policies from various school board policies so when we get updates from the school board that's one of the reasons at various times you might say oh well this should have been changed well it's because it was an oversight because it is not in alignment with the school board numbers because bits and pieces are in various policies with towson county's
074board policy so what i'm what i'm what i'm sharing that is because i had a fairly lengthy phone call with the school board association this week and uh we talked about what the majority of districts in the state of north carolina have done and they've aligned their policies number wise and conversion-wise with the school board policies and as they get the legislative updates it's so much easier to bring those policies to a school board and say here are the changes and then you can embed the changes that you so desire to make and align it with what you currently have in place so i just wanted to share that because i'd like to in the near future bring to your proposal and um to do a conversion possibility a correlation with the school board association
075we've tried to do that uh on our own but it's just it's massive and they said it would take the school board association said we're talking two to three years to do that on you know as a procedure with them so i wanted to bring to you in the next meeting or two a possibility of making it more in line and you're talking and here's just a copy of you can probably see what they look like most of the districts have something that looks like this and embedded in those policies one thousand to nine thousand are detailed policies and they would work with correlating their current policies into the school board policies and then bringing over with your approval of course sections that are unique to castle county so just something to think about what's
076battle several years ago dr carter when dr henry johnson left api when uh mike ward left that that's the job that he took on he went and we did that but it was costly but it was worth it and then we stopped it and we kind of i thought we threw away good money and didn't follow up because what they did they went through every policy and brought it back to us it saved us a lot of time a lot of work though i'll i'll concur with that go ahead doc i pulled it up and it was in 2013 because i pulled up the correlation there and that was the springboard and if it just continued in a really good place right now but we just thought and so what i'd like to do is
077just have a commitment of two to three years and it would be in our budget to complete the process and i think you would be very happy with the outcome and i'd like to bring that in the future all right and that way if they if they come out with a policy adjustment we just go in and put it in that particular one and it's covered we're covered and you vote on it i mean that's what i mean after we vote on it okay you need a motion to adjourn if there's no other questions or comments i need a motion to adjourn i think that making sure all in favor indicate by raising your hand this meeting