001Okay, we'll go ahead and call this special called meeting for October the 7th, 2025 to order. At this time, I'll call on Mr. Borders if he would come and lead us in our invocation. Good evening everyone. Let us pray. Oh kind God, we come to you right now in the name of Jesus. Lord, just thanking you for this day, this opportunity to make decisions for our young people here in Cleveland County and also the people of Cleveland County. And Lord, we just ask that you just be in the midst of this meeting, oh Heavenly Father, and you know, have your way tonight, Lord. And let us make right choices for our young people and our families, Lord, that we would and with that said, Lord, that we will continue to give you the praise and
002glory and do your will as you asked us to do. We thank you and we love you in Christ Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Mr. Sperlin, if you would please our >> pledge. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. Next on the agenda is the adoption of the agenda. Do I have a motion to adopt the agenda as presented? >> I make a motion. >> Mr. Bridges, >> Mr. Grigg. >> All in favor, if you would raise your hand. >> Okay. All right. Connor, let me give you a little bit of background of where I how I'd like things to run tonight. Um the group is going to present to us
003tonight came to our operations meeting uh last week uh gave a what I believe to be a super presentation of what they would like to do with Marian school. Um after the meeting I got with Dr. Fiser and asked if he would uh find a day that they could come back and the entire board and the public. I want to be fully transparent about this and let the public come and hear what they have to say and what they want to do. Uh so uh that's kind of where we're at right now. We're going to let them do a presentation. What I would ask, if you don't mind, let's not make any motions until after our agenda says, we're going to let them present. We're going to have public comment. Then we're going to have
004a close session with the attorney to go over legal stuff. I would ask that you hold off on any motions until we come back out from hearing from the attorney. We'll come back out into open session and then we can entertain any motions if so anyone desires if that's okay. All right. At this time, I will ask Dr. Fischer if he would come and introduce our guest. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of the board and and folks that are gathered tonight. This is Jeff Marburgger. Uh Jeff does not need introduction to many of you. Um Jeff is is a member of our community. Uh and and Jeff and I have had a couple conversations in his interest in in Marion. um conversation began uh through a mutual friend and and mutual uh partner with the
005city of Shelby. Um that person knew that that Jeff and and his team were looking at some properties and some land and and this person also knew that Marian may be on on uh as an option. So got Mr. Barber and I in connection. We we did have him come and present to the uh operations and safety committee. uh and and as part of that uh conversation wanted him to come tonight uh to present to the full board and with some information. Um I'm going to let Jeff introduce his team. Uh he's got some special members of his team that you can see on the screen uh here as well. Uh but Jeff, thank you for being here. We'll turn it over to you. >> Thank you guys so much uh for the opportunity just
006to be here tonight with you guys. Uh my name is Jeff Marberger. Uh that's my wife Mandy Marberger of 17 years and just up there just want to introduce you to my family real quick and just the only reason I'm doing that is just because foster care and adoption has been a huge part of our lives and it continues to be a part of our lives through the organization uh that we've uh began and and uh are just excited about possibilities and vision for what could be and and what we believe should be. And so, uh, Cervante Marburger, uh, there in the middle. He's, uh, right by my left leg. He's our oldest son, 15, almost has his permit. So, neighborhood friends, look out. Um, yeah, but he's got his permit. He has moved in
007with us when he was 10 years old, was had been in foster care for about six years, and then was adopted out of foster care. Um, and he's our oldest son. And then to my wife's right there in the picture is Becket Marburger. Uh he is th 13. He'll be 14 at the end of this month. He is our biological son. And then in the middle is Scarlet Faith. She moved in with us when she was four and uh she was adopted I believe when she was seven and she is now 12 years old and and uh definitely turned into a beautiful young woman. And then Isaiah James to Cervante's left. He's kind of the catalyst of the Marburger crew there. He was uh our very first foster care placement a decade ago and God's
008used him in a special way. So he's been a Marburger since he was about three. And then Hattie Michelle Marburger in between Becket's legs. She moved to with us when she was 5 days old. She is officially a Marburger. She's six years old. And then the stork dropped Elias William off on the doorsteps this past uh February. Uh very very interesting long story to that one, but he's getting plenty to eat like his dad. But uh that's our family and that's uh how foster care and adoption has really integrated into our lives. About six years ago, we were part of a local church um here in the county, Hope Community Church, and we were on staff there and we're just sharing about our journey through foster care and adoption. And uh through that, a lot
009of families at the church became foster parents and adoptive parents. And so now looking back on that, we call those cultures of foster care and adoption. And so on my wife and I's 10year anniversary, we just started dreaming and praying about uh what God had for us next. and really just thought, hey, how awesome would this be if we could go to different churches across the state and share what we've learned and what we've done and uh develop cultures of foster care and adoption within the local church across North Carolina. And that's when One More One Less Project was born in 2019 and uh it's been cool to be a part of that ever since. We survived COVID about six months in which wasn't fun, but God's uh just had his hand on that. And
010so that's been an absolute privilege to be a part of. And then I just wanted to introduce our team. Uh there on the back row is is Robbie Gaines. He's our special needs director. And then Courtney Wilson. She's our prayer director. And then uh we got Chris Gray right here. He's our project director. And then Amy Bridges. She's our community care director. And so uh those guys are a part of uh the staff at One More One Less Project. And we uh just create avenues for people to plug into the foster care world within the church. And uh that's a huge need across North Carolina. There's 12,000 kids in foster care and only 6,000 foster parents. And so it truly is a pandemic. And we believe that the church is uniquely positioned to move into
011that if they're equipped and uh inspired to do that. So we exist to inform, inspire, and intertwine the local church with foster care, reunification, and adoption. And so uh as uh Dr. Fischer said, "We have uh some property that was gifted to us um across from Pleasant City Church off of Sue Lane that was about uh it's about 6 acres." And so our plan was to develop that. We had been working with Hoke Enterprises and Upland Architect to really uh develop what we felt like was the next steps for our organization. Uh and so that's when I reached out to Brandon RP. I had gotten his number from uh Chris Green and um him and I had a conversation and uh that's when Marian school entered the conversation. He said, "Hey, I know Marian school
012was there there's need for movement with that and I live about a quarter of a mile from Marian School on Windsor Drive." And so for me, it really uh just brought up a an entirely new vision for this um and that would really excited me. So, I'm just going to read to you guys the letter of intent. I believe Dr. Fischer sent it to you. Um, but says, "Thank you so much for taking the time to consider the vision we have as an organization. We see this as an opportunity to better serve the most vulnerable children of Cleveland County and across the state of North Carolina. We live a quarter of a mile from Marian School on Windsor Drive and would be honored to bring vibrancy and purpose back to this building that has incredible
013potential. Our vision is three-fold for this building. Number one, that the least of these in Cleveland County and beyond can be connected to the power of the local church across North Carolina. Our organization exists to inform, inspire, and intertwine the local church with foster care, reunification, and adoption. The building would allow for us to resource families that are taking kids in and create a conference for pastors and church leaders across the state to come in and be inspired in an inspiring space. Number two, the seeking can be counseledled. A huge need in our society is counseling, not just in adults, but also kids connected to the foster care system. We have experienced this in 10 years of being foster parents and plan to partner with a counseling organization that will use a building of Marion
014as their offices. This will seek to serve children in a holistic way. And then number three, the joy of the Lord can be experienced through recreation and community. We have seen the power of connection through sports, exercise, and simply a place to connect. This building would serve as a community partner to some capacity as an afterchool area to serve the kids of Cleveland County. Our partner in this has yet to be established, but we are prayerfully considering. And so that's the uh threeprong vision that that we have right now for the building of Marriott. The building we were going to build was 17,000 square feet that we had designed. And this one, of course, as most of you know, is 68,000 square feet. And so, uh, but the appealing part about it to us is
015that the ability to grow into the building. It's uniquely shaped and built that it was built in the 50s, the 60s, the 70s, and the 80s. And so, to be able to use each wing as there's a need and as vision comes to the building is a really exciting thing for us as a team and as an organization. And so, that's our heart for the building. if you guys see fit as to uh uh allow us to partner with you guys to continue to serve Cleveland County, Cleveland County kids uh at that building. And it's exciting to me to to bring vibrancy to the community that we live in as well. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh let me just say something. I think I was a little bit confused when it came to operations. You're
016wanting this more as for office space and for counseling centers, not for housing kids. That's you're not that's not your intention. >> Correct. >> Your intention is office space mainly bringing counselors in, maybe having conferences there with other pastors throughout the state and so forth. Is that >> that's absolutely correct. We have a foster closet that serves foster parents so that if there's a child that enters into the care and the foster parent doesn't have something, they can come and it's a totally re free resource. And the ability where we're at right now doesn't have the ability to store large items like beds and cribs and different things like that. And so that capacity is there at Marian School obviously as well, which is really a unique unique need. All right. Does any other board
017members want to miss >> Well, I would like to say I know that school has a very strong culture. The neighborhood you live there, so you know what a great neighborhood is. >> Miss Sherman, would you turn your mic on, please? >> Yes. Thank you. I personally had an opportunity to have a son to attend there. I know the strong connection that the the neighbors have and the people there. Um like I said, I know you you live there and you do. I know one concern and I'm sure that you um have thought of that and you will address that too is the aesthetic view of the community of the school, the campus. Um, I drive by there all the time and um, I think the school system's done a good job keeping it up
018and I I just wanted to make sure that is something that you would um, make sure to bring back. I think it would be exciting to see lights on again and children around there, you know, that's what that's what made it so special was um, a love for children. So, and I also wanted to ask you about you mentioned an afterchool program like what what would that look like? So, in my mind's eye, and this is all uh 30,000 ft still, we don't have obviously we weren't going to put the cart before the horse and wanted to uh see what the school board had to say about it, but uh the vision of it would be to allow uh kids to come and connect in the gym area to refurbish the gym and then uh
019possible uh there there could possibly be a a partnership with like a a physical therapist that is very small scale. um that could be a a huge benefit to the community and to the kids. And yes, aesthetically, we would do our best to uh take care of it as well as we could. And there's a lot of community partners, I think, that would be eager to help with the aesthetics of it, too. So, that's exciting. >> Okay. Well, thank you for bringing this to us tonight. >> All right. Uh let's go over here. Mr. Leford, do you have any questions? >> Too early yet. I don't think I can ask a question until I hear from >> others to see their opin I mean, >> okay. But do you have >> anything on opinion? >>
020Okay. I'm just asking, do you have any questions for him? Okay. Do you have any questions for him? >> How many partners do you have in this organization? >> How many partners as far as churches across the state or as far as >> in and the group that's wanting to do what you're wanting to do? >> And the group. So, we have a an organization that's a counseling center that is thriving. They have campuses in Spindale and Boiling Springs and then I believe in Lincoln as well. and they would move their home office into the building. And so right now we have two concrete partners between one more one less project and this other organization. And then our organization itself has hundreds of partners as far as financial, as far as uh churches across the
021state and different people that believe in what we've been called to do. >> Thank you. So, I would just like to say um I was not on the board when all of this took place, but my my goal is that we make the right decision for for moving forward. Um I'm also I have been a licensed foster parent. I adopted one of my children through foster care, so I know that the need is there in our community for additional resources to help um and in the process of getting our rellicensed also because there is such a need in our county for foster families. Um so, this is definitely um an avenue that um could be positive for the community. Um, again, I I want to make sure we make the best decision for the school.
022Uh, and this is in the right direction. So, um, I know what you guys do, uh, as an organization for foster families and children. It's a very good need. Um, and so I just look forward to to what we have going on here. Thanks, >> Mr. Humphre. >> Yes. Um, Gloria mentioned aesthetics. If you don't mind, could you expand on that just a little bit? Because some conversations I've had with attorney, the our attorney, Belvadier is a historic community. >> So, it's my understanding that your intent is to maintain the historic integrity, historic integrity of the building and the look of it. So, the people that live in that area might need to know that. >> Thousand%. Yes, sir. We would use the existing structures and and uh definitely refurbish inside um and then the
023outside to clean and and add aesthetics to >> keep the historic >> absolutely >> appearance of wouldn't be any tearing down of facilities or anything like that if that's what you're asking. >> Yeah. Okay. Um there's a term in here that I'm somewhat familiar with and I think everybody probably needs to understand is guardian at lightum. Can you explain that? Yeah, the guardian adidams uh in short, very short, it's a voice for a child in court. And so we've had several guardians through our life, but uh guardian at lightams and Isaiah specifically, his name was Tim May. It really really jumps out to me. And there's somebody that is a total volunteer base um that that comes into the home and then interacts also with the biological side. Um and then they're a voice for
024the child in court. So they would go and stand before a judge and say, "Hey, I believe this is what's best or in this child's best interest." And so it's a a great way and there's several people in our community that are guardians here in Cleveland County. And so it's a another way to provide people the opportunity to serve because I think that's the uh the heart of our organization is that foster kids and adoptive kids are opportunities, not obligations. And so this opportunity to become less like me and more like Christ, uh there's nothing I've done in my life that's made me more like Christ than taking foster kids. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. Well, I've been down that road. I've fostered and I have adopted and the rest of my family has adopted
025and fostered over the years. So, you're doing a great thing in that garden of light that he brought up. I know a little bit about them. They are great people and they are out there for the best for that child. Uh in a lots of cases uh in about all cases, in other words, because they get on both sides uh when you're in the courthouse, I sat right there in that courtroom, especially on Wednesday. That's when they have a lot of them court days on Wednesday. Um, you're doing a great thing, but like I say, I want to make sure that I'm doing what the community of Marian School and I'm not I haven't got convinced that we need to get rid of it when we're having to lease mobile units. And uh I don't
026care for leasing mobile units when we got a set building been a set and empty and it was not maintained good till here recently. And I just want to make sure that we do the right thing because y'all are in the right y'all in the right mode. Don't get me wrong there. >> Sure. I'm not against y'all 100% because we'd probably take another kid today. Uh or my family, some of my family would. And you have one on your team that knows all about my family and uh fostering and adopting and but I think that school needs uh I've got to have a lot of proving that I wouldn't stand for it to open back up for another elementary school. [Applause] So, uh, I got two questions. How, so you're not a new organization. How
027widespread are you now? >> We're in 17 counties across North Carolina. We have, uh, several counties over on the eastern coast and several counties on the western coast. And so it's a uh pretty pretty pretty statewide initiative that works with churches that are that are willing to to learn and us learn from them. >> Okay. And uh so you and I asked that question because it if you're that widespread then then you're uh apparently established and it doesn't I would not be in fear of you taking over the building and then going under. So, and then the second question is uh uh I I don't have adopted kids, but uh my understanding is to foster kids to you have to have training. >> You have to be licensed. >> Yes, sir. and and I'm assuming
028uh that that the part of that training licensing would would be conducted at this facility. >> So we are not a licensing agency. Okay. So we work alongside of the state DSS and then private um licensing agencies. And so the building would be very open-handed as far as if DSS wanted to use it for something, there would be obvious space available. And so to answer your question, no, we are not a licensing agency. Okay. >> Um, but we are a conduit between the church and the foster care system. And so our heart is to really connect those two things. So, so being that conduit, >> what just kind of 30,000 foot view, what kind of activities? I mean, you said you would you probably use the gym for connections and sports and things. What kind
029of connections would you do out of this facility as far as the foster care and adoptions and things like that? >> Yeah, great question. So our heart and our vision would be to bring foster families in to be encouraged through that. The statistic is is that one out of two foster parents quit after the first year because they feel isolated and alone. And so our heart is to connect the church with those people. And so to provide a meeting space there and then the churches across North Carolina uh to really shine a light on what's going on in Cleveland County. Uh we have a a home right now that we own that is functions as a aged out facility for teens that are aging out of you uh foster care and then birth moms trying
030to get their kids back. And so it's a 12-month program. And so we really uh strive to connect the church to ideas and thoughts like that. So we would bring churches in. Also, the closet, the foster care closet that we would have there would provide a resource for immediate families that are in Cleveland County and the surrounding areas to provide physical needs and tangible needs and then also for our staff to have a place to where there's vision and dreams to be had. Um would be a a really cool cool place in in Marian school for sure. >> Thank you. >> Absolutely. >> Mr. Fish, you have any questions? >> All right, Mr. Yes, please. >> Go ahead. Go ahead. >> To ask you, I have heard some concerns and questions and about zoning. um
031will you have to I I don't I understand it a little bit but I'm sure other people with other backgrounds and but I know that's very important and um ensuring that say you weren't there how many years and then you leave what can the community what can they expect if you know um to to um avoid housing moving in or that so what do you have you thought about or planned regarding zoning the zoning conversation has started and we've been working u with some lawyers in town to ask those questions. Um and I would our heart is that it would never we live in the community. We don't want to see housing moved into there. And so our heart as an organization and just me individually would never be to turn into housing or financial
032gain like that. Um, and but to speak with any uh defensiveness, uh, Miss Sherman, I would hate to do that just because I that's not the world I live in. I don't live >> I just know that's probably on some people's minds, you know, and started that conversation. Again, kind of the cart before the horse. We don't want to get too far into this and use resources to figure out those different things. Uh the idea would be that nonprofits and forprofits, some some forprofits that lined up with the vision that we have >> possibly would be able to move in there. But the heart behind it is nonprofits at this point, >> right? >> But we don't >> again, we don't have the crystal ball to say, hey, this is going to be going to
033be what's this used for forever, right? But our thank you. >> Used for the most vulnerable children in Cleveland County. That would be the best way to to to add a synopsis to it. >> Now that I've got a little better understanding and uh of what's taking place, uh first of all, do you plan on renovating the 68,000 square ft of that building? >> So, we have a $750,000 grant that we've been uh gifted with and then we're our goal is to do a capital campaign for another $750,000. But the thought process is to move as the need demands. And so to say we're going to renovate all 68,000 square feet in 2026 is definitely not on our radar unless there were to be some some gift from somewhere that would say, "Hey, that would
034take care of it." But our heart is to improve the parts that we're going to be using and the parts that the counseling center would need. And then obviously that gym and that old library area because we we've walked through it about four times now, Mr. Mr. Leadford. And it is it's it needs a lot. It's uh I won't say it's uh in foreclosure type condition, but it it needs a uh every surface needs to be touched. And so the idea that excites us is that it's partitioned in a way that we can use it and then grow into it and then renovate those as the as the demand meets. >> Uh do you plan to house kids in that particular facility? >> No sir. We would never. >> So it's particularly administrative type uh
035structure. >> Yes sir. >> Okay. Something else I was wanting to ask but I can't think right now. So, I'll >> stop. >> All right. Uh, let me just maybe help with a couple of things. Uh, number one, uh, I think our attorney, and this is for the folks in the audience as well, has figured out a way if we sell it to these folks, we can directly sell it to them through a historical general statute. If we put this thing up for bid, we don't know what's coming. We don't have a clue here. We know what's coming. Uh, also being a former member of Shelby City Council, uh, I would say you would probably get a conditional use and permit. And what I mean by that as far as zoning, you have to use
036it for what you say you're going to use it for. And if that's the case, somebody can't come in. And the reason for the conditional use is nobody can come in 10, 15, 20 years from now and say, I'm going to tear it down and build houses. So, I think we've found a way. Our attorney has found a way. Obviously, we had to offer it to the county and the city. They both did turn it down. The next is this board decides to sell it. If we don't sell it to you is put it up for bid, highest bidder gets it. So, I think uh the board needs to take that into consideration. I just want the public to know that that you know, we're trying to I want to do due diligence, but I
037just don't want to throw something in the community that they don't want. So, any more questions? >> Okay. >> All righty. Thank you. >> Thank you guys. >> All right. Next on the agenda is the public comment. I think we have four. Mr. Bridges, if you would read our rules for public comment, please. >> Public comment should not address any specific confidential student or personnel matter. Specific concerns related to confidential student or personnel matters should be directed to the superintendent or design. Comments must be relevant to matters that are within the authority of the board. Speakers shall refrain from the personal attacks or threats directed toward staff, elected board members, or members of the public. Speakers shall be courteous in their language and presentation. Insults, profanity, and use of vulgar language or gestures or other
038inappropriate behaviors are not allowed. the board vests in its chair or other presiding officers authority to to terminate the remarks of any individual and he or she does not adhere to these rules established above. Any person who willfully interrupts or disrupts board meeting uh may be directed to leave the meeting by the presiding officer. Any person who refuses to leave may be prosecuted for disrupting a public meeting. Persons appearing before the board are reminded as a point of information that members of the Cleveland County Board of Education are without authority to act independently as individuals in official matters. Immediate answers are not generally possible and must be deferred pending investigation and consideration by the full board. >> Thank you, Mr. Bridges. The first one I have here is Jenny Rose or Ross. >> Ross. Okay,
039Miss Ross, if you'd come forward. Hi. Um, I normally am a lot more put together whenever I come to speak to you guys, but unfortunately whenever I heard about this called meeting today, I went on and looked for the agenda which I found which had the line that this was about Marian Elementary School, but did not include those links there, the one more one less proposal and the booklet um were not on the agenda available to the public until I checked it when I got here and it's there now, but it was not most of today. Um, so I was not aware of what we were talking about with Marian school until about 4:45. Um, so I I really caution before any decisions are made. You said that, you know, this was important to you
040that the public be able to to weigh in. Um, we we didn't know we we don't have prepared remarks. We haven't done research because we didn't know what this was going to be about. So, I don't think it's uh super fair to make any decisions until you've had an opportunity for the public to speak to you again um prepared. Um thank you. I do one thing that um those of you who are on the board a couple years ago have seen me before. Um I have gone over the uh facility study that was ordered with a fine tooth comb. I know the target capacities that were stated for the schools in the Shelby zone. Um, all three of the remaining schools are over their target capacity today. Today. Elizabeth Elementary School is at 110% of
041their target capacity. James Love is at 104% of their target I'm sorry, Jefferson is at 104% of their target capacity. And James Love is at exactly 100% of their target capacity. We had to stop the prek program in a crest zone school because there wasn't enough room for the prek students. And I know it's been floated before. Oh, we could just do away with prek in Shelby city to to buy 110 more seats. >> But that's not fair. >> That prek is so important and it has shown that it helps kids going into kindergarten. So, I I really just don't know about selling one of the schools that we have until we have a plan in place. We know what's going to happen because yeah, I don't know what they're offering to pay for it,
042but if there's no space that we can repurchase to build a new school, then that space is invaluable. It It's worth $3 million. [Applause] And I I I have a heart for children. I love children. and I love them so much. I haven't adopted. I haven't fostered. I would love to at some point. I caution the church being so invested and involved. I would want to hear from a public entity. Talk to DSS. Talk to social workers. How do they feel about this before you make some decision like this? Thank you. >> Thank you. [Applause] Next is I believe it's is it Renee or >> Yeah, Renee Bumba. >> Well, I can echo what the last speaker said. I didn't know anything about this at all until I happened to see it in the paper
043this morning. But I have my husband and I have a vested interest in two different ways. He's a retired educator. I'm a retired employee of of Gardener Web. So education is extremely important to us. And I I think that everything that was just brought up by the first speaker was extremely salient. And uh the other thing that I would say is I love the idea of of what um this gentleman and his group, his family are interested in doing. And before I would consider anything else, if it can't remain a school, that would definitely be my go-to. And the next thing I would say is I live directly across from Graham Elementary School, which y'all also closed. And I can only say we'd love to have you over there if this fails for Marian. So,
044um, again, uh, the school system here is a good system. I know that that Dr. Fischer has has a lot on his plate. Um, but with all the houses that are getting ready to be built, it's my understanding, you know, more than, I don't know, a thousand homes are going to be built between these several different subdivisions. So, we're going to have an influx of kids needing schools. So, again, why would we want to get rid of existing schools, and as my husband said on the way over here, they can be refurbished even if even if Marian needs a new roof to the tune of $200,000, that's a heck of a lot cheaper than having to build another school. So, um, I would agree with with the fact there should be another meeting and there
045should be some more thought that goes into this. Thank you. [Applause] >> Next is Mr. Greg Horn. [Music] I saw personally things that happened by the time I was school. Brown was one of the first people in North Carolina to suggest people fourth grade all the way up. I saw my kids walking around able We don't have enough That's what I am. Thank you, Mr. Horn. The next one I believe is Shay. Is that correct? >> Tier Tieran. >> Tier. Okay. I'm sorry. >> Yes. I'm Shay Tieran. Um, I have a fourth grader who goes fourth grade grandchild, excuse me, who goes to to Jefferson and they're in a mobile unit. So, that's one of my concerns. But also, I know that they're building like what, 300 houses right behind Jefferson School. Where are those
046children going to go? There's not any more room at Jefferson because my grandchild's in a mobile unit. There's not any more room in the school. So, where are those children going to go to school? I know that Elizabeth is full, James Love is full. I mean, I that's my main concern is if you close Marian and and and Jeff lives right next right down the street from me, so I know he's a good guy that um there's just not another school. Where where are these children going to go to school? So, that's just my my main concern about Marian. >> Thank you, ma'am. All right. Next on the agenda is I'll entertain a motion to go into close session. >> Oh, we don't have a uh board member comments before we go. >> No, I
047need u you give me the statute. >> I got it. I got it right here. >> Yeah, I got it. Yeah. So, uh, general statute 143-38 31811 subsection A3, um, to go into close session to consult with the attorney about the property at Marian School. >> Okay. I have a motion. I have a second. >> Second, Mr. Gri. All those in favor? It's 90. All right.