001and allow notifications tap subscriptions to subscribe to your school the event section shows a list of events throughout the school you can use this button to add an event to your calendar or tap here to share the event with friends and family the feed is where you'll find updates from Administration about what's going on throughout the school whether that's celebrating a Student Success or reminding you about an upcoming deadline search edcom County public schools in the app store or Play Store to explore the app for yourself it's everything ecps in your pocket [Music] Welcome to our March 3r is [Music] owner Welcome to our March 3rd 2025th meeting and this is what we call a special call meeting and the public can view this meeting uh with uh YouTube uh edgecon County Public Schools and
002this is provided for all of our uh public school meeting the public I will now declare and call this meeting to order I would ask everyone to stand and we will lead our Pledge of Allegiance our pledge of aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you you may seated [Music] we will follow our agenda hope everyone has picked up a copy uh the next item on our agenda is to approve our agenda Dr Bryant do you have any additional information to bring with us no so hearing none other I need to hear a motion to approve the agenda as printed Madam chair I move for the approval of the agenda as printed
003second has been moved and properly second that we will approve our meeting today as printed any other discussion on the motion all in favor the motion let it be known by saying I I oppose the same sign the motion is carried okay next item we have guest with us today and they're all ready to start talking Dr Bryant would you say uh introduce them please uh thank you madam chair uh appreciate our guest being here today uh from Pau to uh conduct a construction manager at risk uh interview today uh certainly appreciate you being here and submitting uh RFQ for us in relation to the project um uh just so everybody here and uh the public watching uh knows um sort of the um framework for today uh BAU is going to present uh give
004us a presentation regarding uh their qualifications for our project for uh North edcom School of innovation uh the board has questions that they uh can ask in relation to that uh RFQ and uh we make sure that we have an opportunity uh to make sure that you all are able to share uh your information about your company and the board has all their questions answered today so uh certainly appreciate you being here and if you could think be great if you could introduce yourself and and your team that you um so graciously brought here today sure I'll go a and start uh my name is Blair Bordeaux I'm president of Bordeaux construction I'm Chris small director of reconstruction that board up I'm Matt Miller director of virtual construction board up I'm Matt Woodley I would
005be the project manager on the project I'm Bobby Clark I will be the job site superintendent Scotty award director of safety reporter certainly uh pleasure seeing you here today and appreciate you being here uh I'm going to I'm going to turn it over to you so anything You' like to present to us and the board has some questions that they uh they can choose to ask or or not ask depending upon I'm sure you will cover a lot of things in your in your presentation but just for the public if you could could you just share with with us what a construction manager at risk is yes I'll be glad so construction manager at risk uh was allowed uh by Statute into North Carolina in 2001 so it differs from uh traditional design bid build
006in that we are uh effectively the owner's agent uh preconstruction is kind of a new term if You' never ever done see at risk we work hand inand with the designer uh primarily responsible for schedule during design uh budget constraint and control during design constructibility review and then heading into uh subcontractor pre-qualification uh and then we'll present effectively a GMP is a term that you might hear is a guaranteed maximum price that's where the risk part takes on is effectively where risk for overages beyond the guaranteed maximum price uh cment risk does differ from traditional design bid build uh and that everything's open book uh so we'll act as the owner's agent as opposed to a uh a traditional GC role where everything is quote unquote Clos does that answer your question yes sir thank
007you uh so we'll go and get started uh I think we've heard we'd like to try to keep the uh entire presentation including Q&A under 50 minutes uh so we'll shoot for about 25 minutes in uh kind of presentation and then we'll go into Q&A um so I'll open up a little bit about Bordeaux construction um I talked to several of y'all uh when I got here is uh all I've ever done is uh construction uh most of my background is school construction across Central and Eastern North Carolina I'll tell you a quick story about growing up in a construction family my granddad started the business uh in 77 and my grandmother would always yell at us at the dinner table she said y'all quit talking shot uh you know it' be Thanksgiving Christmas dinner
008so literally all I've ever done is construction and it's something that I love I'm very passionate about building schools across Central and Eastern North Carolina so really grateful of the opportunity to come and interview uh with you there's a place mat in front of you we like to think of this is our birthday on the job uh so if you want to stop along the way ask any questions if we say an acronym you don't know or you want to ask certainly just uh don't don't hesitate to to stop and ask uh so as I mentioned uh we are a North Carolina headquarter company uh we're three generations of North Carolina um contractors that have worked in Board of construction my granddad started the firm my dad uh he's since retired and and we're very
009passionate about building schools uh we are in engineering and News Record Southeast top 100 firms that means we have all the bells and whistles that a large National or even International contractor would have in-house preconstruction in-house virtual design uh and safety uh but we're located right here in North Carolina so 100% of our workers live work raise families in North Carolina so we're very proud of that uh geographically uh we're very family focused as far as a company goes uh I firmly believe in our superintendent being able to to raise families and live in North Carolina so we try to keep our superintendant within about an hour or less of the job site that means they can get home home with their families and they're not having to be on the road they're not having
010to be in motels and we're very uh it's been part of our core philosophy so if you look on the map you can see uh the kind of quter of school construction that we've done in North Carolina is very much centered in Central and Eastern North Carolina uh so this job very much is at home uh Dr Brian you asked about CM at risk uh about uh 78% of our volume is delivered utilizing uh CM at risk and design Bill uh delivery but so we really believe that allows us to leverage the depth of experience in uh School construction across North Carolina we've worked on uh over 300 school campuses across North Carolina uh into preconstruction ultimately delivering a better project uh in those photos we'll talk more about them there's the Halifax County K8
011uh pre8 School uh which is located in Infield Bobby is the super attended on that we'll talk more about that as well as the Pender County K8 school inhanced that uh so as I mentioned uh we have done a lot of school work is something we're very passionate about include 22 uh Public School clients across North Carolina so uh if you ask what our strength is it's going to be school construction would be uh in arguably number one as far as our volume annually and historically [Music] uh then I mentioned the CM at risk and and design build uh that will probably swing more strongly towards design build in the next uh year and two years we've got uh Halifax is being delivered utilizing design build and uh Pender County's design build as well we
012run them similar uh the difference between design build and sear CM at R is that the designer would work for us we a single point under designed build Stam at risk the owner still holds the designer contract we work in parallel with the designer but we still run them very much the same same precon uh just a a slight distinct uh Distinction on on the uh the contract uh we've already done introductions um you've got a placement in front of you but I did want to highlight that we have a lot of other people that'll be behind the scenes uh working uh as well so we've got project Engineers assistant superintendents assistant project managers um and a lot of admin staff that uh deliver the horsepower to be able to deliver school at this on
013time uh so we talked about uh kind of our our firm intro we'll talk about a couple uh case studies and why they're similar uh and then we'll kind of go a little bit deeper into process uh the first one that I mentioned uh or I want to highlight is Bladen County uh schools which is Tar Hill K8 uh this was completed uh 2 years ago and uh one thing I wanted to highlight everything in the top right corner with that blue logo is a North Carolina needs based grant funded project so this would be the fourth need-based Grant funded project if we were awarded there's some uniqueness to it um be glad to talk more about that uh as far as tar Hill K8 uh was actually a a pre8 as well uh a
014couple unique things it had it was a net zero project so that it had um it effectively generates for more power than the building uses so all the solar panels on there and geothermal uh were part of the longterm sustainable construction on that one of the really unique things about that was the buses were bought utilizing a a grant on the electric School Bus they served as battery packs to reduce the peak energy load while the school started up and then the solar panels charged the buses during the day so they could get home it required a lot of work with Seaman the building automation contractor to make sure that the build the buses didn't deplete to the point they couldn't go and get the kids home safely but really Innovative construction uh and design
015that allows us to uh deliver buildings that that uh really uh function and reduce cost impact to the client long term so Wake County Public School System is um one of the 22 Public School Systems we've delivered projects for uh Fuller Elementary is a great example they were a repeat client um we take a lot of Pride and and having an owner want us to come back and do a project again but um nothing's more important to us um Wake County Public Schools has a very uh strict um schedule uh very strict preconstruction requirements and um you know being able to deliver uh for them um I think speaks volume about how we approach projects uh again my name is Matt Woodley I'd be the project manager of that's Northampton uh County high school it's
016a new project that we literally just broke around about a week and a half ago been working on for about 18 months though during preconstruction um it's a project in Jackson North Carolina uh which if you know head head Ro Rapids and take a and take a right and drive about 25 more minutes there there are in Jackson uh they've working on this project for about 15 years trying to get off the ground uh they're very excited it's another uh North Carolina needs-based project uh so we' be working closely with the with the client the budget was very very tight uh we just got settled about 3 weeks ago um but again I've done a lot of school work I've done uh K through 8 I've done high schools I've done a lot of work
017uh Community College projects and like Blair said you know building Public Schools is you know that's that's just our our Bedrock of our of our company [Music] uh I mentioned design build uh the one that's on the screen now is Pender County Schools it's the design build K8 uh this is a fairly large K8 at 2300 students um it uh also had a little bit of uniqueness in it in the uh Creek that cuts through the site that we had to deal with I saw that on the uh School of innovation has a similar Creek that that we would have to deal with uh but it is a uh you know part of the engineering background that we enjoy is is the site construction of how to approach a site and some of the innovative
018solutions to it um so this one is under construction scheduled to open in 2027 um I'm talking about several of these cuz we have you know multiple teams working on these schools what you see here is the team that you'll have on your school and that's something we wanted to to really focus that's the question that'll probably come up is who's my main point of contact of course I'll be available if needed but Matt will be the project manager once construction start so it'll be Bobby you'll see Chris a lot during precon so uh the team that you see here is is who you'll be working [Music] with the total budget or total GMP on uh the Pender K8 was 130 million for school Halifax um prek H school again I'm Bob be the superintendent
019and if you notice you know everyone up here has on the nice jackets and everything and they have on nice brown shoes brown shoes not but my brown shoes are a little dirty little Dusty so I'm actually boots on the ground now 10 years ago I could do this without having to lean up against something so I have 35 years of experience and with Bordeaux the picture you see here to the bottom bottom left there's an auditorium there's gymnasium and then there's a classroom wing and also there's a media center that will provide a courty right in the center so the photo below also shows that Highway 48 they're in Infield is some what we're working around that would be similar to UGI school also in a a residential area that we can work with
020the U Community um the picture to your upper right is a junior contractor's day that we did with the students and we'll talk more about that um but we have experience to do anything that you would like for us to do and again literally I'm the boots on the gr uh not a case study that we listed but one other uh note I wanted to add is we have worked with bines uh we did the uh let's see it was North or New Hanover County Library with bines um so if we have experience working with them we would love to do another project with them they uh they really design a a beautiful uh project so just wanted to highlight that as well yeah so we we looked at some uh relevant projects and now
021we'll get into our process and what sets us apart um first um preconstruction we have trusted local subcontractors again we we are a community Builder we're um like I mentioned we build a lot of schools um for the community the other side of that is we want the construction that we do to have a great impact in the local community so we get really excited when I see steel technology who's one of our best uh steel suppliers they're in Rocky Mount um so we you know it it gives a better product um more efficient construction um you know a better budget because we're we're finding the local subs and um you know when they're working close to home just like when we're working close to home uh you things are are better and more efficient
022so um minority participation in the state requires 10% um if you look at our history we well exceed to that we we're averaging 30 to 40% and that's not an accident we um we have a very involved Hub outreach program um instead of just uh you know surface level reaching out to to find um Hub trade Partners we're looking at second tier third tier suppliers we're writing our bid packages around what's going to get the most involvement from the community again keeping the um community in mind and keeping that impact uh local it's a junior contractors day at the upper right if you see me there with my hand raised I'm trying to explain something to the students and there's some fifth graders that come out right at 163 students to come out just to
023show them that hey you guys are the future of our construction industry not only males but females so we're trying to coach them to see what it is to do construction the one at the bottom um the bottom right bottom left I'm sorry um the students are watching the rebar for his masonry and over to the upper right the Steel Erectors um the crane is there and the students are looking asking questions and with this we just want to get them get them involved with hey if I can do it you can do it as well because the youth is our future and without training them now um that's something we take very seriously so starting out here at this level gives them an opportunity to look at hey I can do this also Bobby
024when is the next contractor's College you're doing it will be in uh May okay another Junior contractors so there will be two um that we've done at Halifax G and would love to do it with you guys so another piece of our process is the preconstruction process the the building schedule obviously gets a lot of attention um the preconstruction schedule is just as important um as previous previously mentioned we do a lot of design bill um in that delivery method the designer works for us um steamr is similar um but we take that um really grabbing that precon schedule um and and we make sure we're driving and working with the designer uh to deliver that on time it's hard to deliver a project on schedule if you don't start on schedule and so hitting
025that start date is second to hit in that end [Music] G uh this is a cost control slide with a just a basic example of how um we work as partner to the owner um in this example it's you know flooring you've got you've got short-term cost versus long-term benefit between different flooring types um value is subjective and that depends on what your needs are um we take a lot of Pride during the entire preconstruction process we're looking and communicating with you as the owner to find out what you actually need and um making sure we're getting the best value and the uh best thing for your G and um yeah this was an exact exercise we did at Northampton High School uh was studying LBT versus trazzo um and helping kind of control budget
026around that a lot of the times we'll focus on things that don't necessarily affect program and focus on more cosmetic things in nature so flooring finishes obviously don't change the square footage of of the building or the amount of classroom space they may change the look and feel of it a little bit but not the actual program of it so that'd be a good example of something that we'll study uh you know you ask what is semr what a SE at risk is preconstruction working through these type of exercises I like to tell people or clients that don't know it is uh our job as a construction manager at risk is not to make the tough decisions that stays yall still have to make the tough decisions our job is to give you the information
027to make the tough decisions and that's what preconstruction really is is making the uh most mileage out of the dollars that are available we understand there's a finite bucket of needs-based grant funding available for this project so our our role is to keep the designer quote unquote in check and making sure that the design stays within that sum of money and maximizes the value uh for the client [Music] and this is a slide showing um our PR construction technology we use togle AI it's a AI powered takeoff software um takeoff is is you know when we take a set of plans and we're um Bally getting the material quantity um we use togal AI because it's more accurate and all I can do is think back to 15 years ago as I was coloring boxes
028on a computer and um you know this does it for you it's more accurate computer I remember doing it with a with with a piece of paper but what that allows us to do is spend more time on constructibility instead of clicking boxes or using the highlighter like Matt used to exactly uh real quick here um procore is a cloud-based uh project management software that that we use they're all sorts of them out there uh this is what is considered the Cadillac though I say it every time and bl always laughs at me but it's free for you it's not free for us but but anybody who's involved with with the project is is more than um we're more than glad to to invite you it's just the Hub of the entire project it's got
029every uh drawing every submittal every RFI which are the questions that are asked every photo every time Bobby posts a photos you'll get a daily you know you know email letting you know that more photos photos have been published it's just it's just really The Hub of the entire project all the Architects like it a lot too I just wanted to show you that we use the uh the best of the best as far as our our software goes good afternoon once again I'm Matt Miller director of virtual construction for bordeau um so you we use Bim coordination um it's a process that we use to coordinate all the Building Systems together if you're not familiar with a Bim it stands for building information modeling and so so we get 3D models of the of
030the building and the structure from the designers and then we'll work with our subcontracting teams um the key players like mechanical electrical Plumbing our steel vendor and we develop uh actual systems models that are represent what's being installed in place in the field so we're actually swapping in um equipment models that we received from the vendors for all Mechanical plumbing electrical equipment and so we'll host um weekly meetings where we go through class detection how are we're going to fit everything in place above ceing and one big Focus during this process that that we can do in the 3D environment is um putting clearance zones in front of all of our mechanical equipment um in front of electrical panels making sure that we're not going to have imped MS for your maintenance staff so they
031can access you know VAV boxes and plumbing um valves above ceiling and so we uh we had these coordination meetings and basically we nail down this coordination before before we start and so when Bobby is there on site he can kind of focus on that big picture um of schedule and uh safety Yeah you mentioned uh you know why CM at risk and this is a specific focus of of why we uh actively advocate for cm in design build uh you don't see Bim modeling and coordination done in traditional design bid build uh I've done both we still do both I can tell you definitively we can build a better building cheaper faster and easier to maintain using technology like this because we're literally coordinating all of the clashes before we break ground we're coordinating
032footsteps before we uh even set the first Beam on the site uh it was actually surprising when we rolled this technology out a lot of the older superintendents not Kan you old Bobby uh really were the quickest ones to adopt the technology because they coordinated things the old way seeing that they're able to focus on uh coordinating the job as opposed to resolving conflicts they were some of the first people to buy into the system so it's really a a focus on why we look at CM at risk as our preferred delivery method is because of of these type of things uh allow us to build better buildings yeah another kind of cool piece of technology that we use to kind of get everybody involved this is available to the design team our team in
033to to you all the the the owners is um this one's called oculo and basically it kind of creates a a Google street view of your of your job site so we have somebody on site that that walks around they have a a camera on top of their hard hat they have a big sign says do not approach you know work in progress but uh they they walk the side once or twice a week and it creates kind of like a realtime um street view of your job site so you can pull up the plans I want to see what's going on with the you know in the kitchen right now what's what's going with the construction there you can drop right in there see um the the progress that's going on and it also
034ties in with the the coordination model so you can kind of see um there's nothing about cealing yet what's going to be up there you can you can look at the model and see what's going to be put in place mockup panel is an example of the material the products that will be constructed inside of the building this particular one has an exterior wall with brick veneer um your vapor barriers your wall instulation and even an arch for a um a window so Market walls are very important it also gives you all a chance to actually see what it is that you you building how the brick look what type of brick would you like to uh to see and the marup panel will also give the architectural firm and us as well a a
035teaching point of this is how we would like to for you to install it or this is not the way we would like for it to be installed so am Mara panel is a way for us to perfect what we're installing and also gives you guys an opportunity to look and see the product that you selected all right good afternoon again I'm Scotty y I'm the director of safety uh and so our priority is safety is to make sure that every single worker come on our job site goes home at the end of the day so our responsibility is to make sure that happens and so how we do that is through our sfic safety orientation everybody who comes on our job site owners workers any type of visitors will'll come on our job site
036and we go through our orientation um once there once to finish the orientation you'll get a red bordo sticker number sticker and put on your hard hat that's how when you guys come out you'll know who's been through orientation and that's how how we keep track of who who's going through um I'm on site once a week uh more if Bobby needs me to be uh and Bobby is not scared to call me so U I go on a job site and when I'm there I do our our weekly safety audits um any issues that are found there in my audit it's going to be corrected before I leave that day uh while I'm there on the job site I'll shut the job site down for about 10 to 15 minutes to do a weekly
037safety meeting with every worker on the job site it's just to reel them back in safety back on the Forefront and I take this time to do training or or let them know any type of special hazards or special critical risk activities that are coming up like crane work um we partner with the Department of Labor which we're very proud of uh with the ocean Shark program you kind of seen that in the previous slides so ocean sharp is a it's a program where we invite ocean to the job site we're not scared of them they come on a job site we have a safety consultant and a health consultant they'll come out they'll review our program our subcontractors program and if there's any open holes in our program or their program they're there to
038be a resource they're there to make sure that our programs are are better when we leave for that day um and then as you can see right there we are our safety program is an a war-winning program through the through North Car Department of Labor Carolina AGC and just here recently last week uh national award for safety so the logistic plans here um at your location shows the existing school with the community residential area and also a busy highway we have experience that we can work with an existing building and add a new building also work around the residence and center community and coordination with the logistics plan will keep us separated the construction workers from everyone at the school from the students the teachers and also the parents we will also on the logistics
039plan show you where we would like to bring in material our workers exit enter and we separation just shows that separation from the work that's being done to where you all um doing your day-to-day activities with this u s with site Logistics plan and also we're able to communicate if you have a special day that you need us to not be in a certain area or we need to reroute our deliveries or our workers just a way to communicate that we can keep the job going but not disturb you guys day day operation and we just don't look after the worker safety we look after the the children's safety your staff safety so everyone come on a job site we have to go through a fe state background check we receive those background checks I
040do a weekly audit of those background checks so everyone to come on a job site when you get that red sticker on that hard hat right there that is how you know that they've been through right orientation and that we have cleared in personally for background checks this Logistics plan is from the Tar Hill K8 down in Bladen County so uh the school up front uh along 87 stayed open and active even the Bus Loop around the backside stayed open and active uh the geothermal Loop was north of that site in the uh the ball field you can see kind of just off the page after the school the K through 8 was constructed uh we tore down the old school evaded tore down the old school and built the parking lot so there'll be
041a lot of similarities to to this to the school of innovation in the construction of the new K8 and what r ations we do um will be very similar in nature is the um is iol going to is it plan to stay open during the renovations it is at this point because the prek 12 then you got two Elementary School and a middle school that are going to be open operating during that time but the high school's going to have to continue and um that high school is responsible for students who are come from east Rocky Mount in our merger with with students so the population are can steadly increase as the construction is going on well we worked to many occupied campuses many occupied schools um this slide here one of the last things
042that we'll do is what's called commissioning um I'm going to assume this going to have a third party uh commissioning agent they traditionally work for the own directly uh just to keep us on our toes which we appreciate but we'll start early with that process with the commissioning agent working with our U plumbing and mechanical uh sub contractors mostly uh basically the whole point of the commissioning is to make sure that when we turn over the keys that all of your systems are working properly everything these days will be you know accessible via you know a laptop or a tablet or or or a cell phone obviously but uh you know we just want to make sure everything's working properly um and that your staff is properly trained on on how to run their building
043and of course you you'll have me through pre construction through construction then for at least 12 months past that for the ating period so uh you know give me a call I'll I'm glad to get my cell phone number out uh so that that closes out the uh formal part of our presentation um you know we like to to close out our presentations with kind of our mission statement and our mission statement is to earn a letter of reference um we understand fully you don't earn a letter of reference by being average you have to be exceptional and uh so that's really our our charge on every project that we undertake uh rather than hear from me uh we've left some uh references on the lead behind uh Dr Cunningham uh Halifax County Schools Dr
044Atkins uh Northampton County Schools Dr ainson down at blade County Schools certainly encourage you to pick up the phone ask how it's like working with us and uh with that we look forward earing your letters chair I may uh thank you for the presentation today uh the board has uh has some questions they put together sort of beforehand we repeat anything that you've already explained forg up front and if not they they can choose to Omit that question that's if that's what they want but mam chair it's okay with you we open absolutely um I have a question and this is what I call my own question uh now I I think it was Miss Blake that may have said this and and if I'm wrong okay uh did I hear someone state that we
045have a creek on our property yeah yes okay you can see it it runs kind of uh this is this is our Corner yes okay so it kind of cuts between the the track and the bus lot and then turns starts left and then goes goes up there Canal that's what it's called okay thank you so one thing that we saw at uh Pender Kate that I mentioned we had a similar uh circumstance we had a jurisdictional stream running literally through the middle of the job site uh the US Army Corp of Engineers permitting process uh if we can stay under I think it was 05 Disturbed Acres of the Wetland uh we can not have to get a special use permit if you have to go through the special use permit with the US
046Army Corp of Engineers it can add potentially an extra year to the schedule so that's a good example of how we can work side by side with the civil engineer the designer and then tie all the schedule component back in and help make informed decisions that ultimately stay on schedule okay thank you um I would also ask another question uh if you would would you please share a little bit more uh background on your experiences with doing CM a with K12 on one site Okay so all of the projects that we uh showed in the opening uh were all K12 yes ma'am so okay that included I just walk back through them and we've got a bunch of others like I said we've worked on uh over 300 school campuses across North Carolina blon County
047Schools was delivered utilizing CM at risk weight County Schools is see them at risk we this is our second C atris project at Wake County Schools we have Brentwood Elementary which is in precon scheduled to start this summer uh that's about a $65 million tear down rebuild elementary school and then East Garner Middle School is scheduled to start in 20127 both of those are CM at risk currently in preon Northampton County Schools is CM at risk that's a high school uh that one just started about uh two weeks uh and then pendri County Schools we indicated here was uh design build very similar it's very similar in nature I'll be glad to talk more detail and then Hala County Schools was design buil as well okay but all of these are K through 12 projects
048utilizing alternative delivery so alternative delivery is anything other than traditional hard bit so we classify CM at risk and design Bild both count as alternative delivery the significance is both of them have preconstruction [Music] Services the best thing about a sear project or a design build project is more collaborative we are your agent we're your fiduciary I mean you see anything any change order I write any amount of money I have I mean any bid I get from a contractor at at bid time I mean it's all open book whereas there traditional hard bid I mean we do those to and they and and they work out fine but you know it's more that's this is my this is my money and you don't you don't need to know Mr owner but in a sear
049project it's all open book so it's very uh collaborative and it's a lot it's a lot more fun there there a lot less arguments in a sear project let's put it that way okay thank you you talked a lot about um some of your recent projects and all I was just would like to ask U maybe pick out a couple and what were some big challenges is that you faced budget all of them you know I'm not being uh fous about it budget uh you know has been a challenge um we're not you know living in a world where the traditional 3 to 5% escalation uh models have helped uh as I was talking with Dr Brian uh coming in was that the state on the last two uh needs-based Grant projects we have done
050uh awarded an additional $12 million uh through a second round of funding that's something I wanted to go back and research after this to see whether this round had it or not uh one other unique challenge that we did at North Hampton County and I think it would be something worth discussing uh for your project uh is what's called a new market tax credit now without getting in the the weeds of it is is fairly technical but effectively it is a um tax credit from wealthy investors around the country and they can apply them towards uh areas and I think edcom County Schools would probably be a good candidate for Northampton County's pursuing it they're looking to hopefully get somewhere about $6 million without strings attached of additional Capital so that could be a good
051opportunity to help bridge some of that funding Gap and we've got some contacts of who we've worked with at uh Northampton County Schools uh so I think that would be something that I would want to I guess one lesson learned on that is we got into the pursuit of that there's there's a uh about an 8we funding window for those New Market tax credits if you're going to be able to use them and design around them you need to have an understanding of them being a available early enough in the project to be able to make decisions around those so I think that would be one thing I would do different if we were selected to start that process earlier of of pursuing new tax credits but they really seem they would be fit for
052for this project um you know all of the construction stuff whether you're navigating around a a civil engineering issue or structural issue or you know budget budget has been the single one hardest challenge we've had to deal with when we've seen construction cost escalation north than 20 plus% annual and this compounding so that's really Chris's job and and what keeps him up at night is you know how do we keep this bu this the school on budget thank [Music] you um could you please describe for me how your firm will be working with the architect to to ensure a project is on time and on budget good uh well like you said that a lot of that starts with the relationship that that we build and uh doing Sr at Construction construction manager at risk
053project really helps that out I mean me and the architect will be best friends by the time we're done with preconstruction uh we we'll be spending a lot of time with each other either in person or or Zoom or or or or teams calls uh I mean one way that that we can facilitate that once the the job starts I we're responsible for submittal process I mean we'll have 500 Plus submittals on on this project those are your your drawings of products that will be used on the job it's our responsibility to get those into the architect as quickly as possible um and his his or her job will be to answer my rfis my my questions uh promtly uh I mean we try to assist the best we can we always I mean Bobby's
054been doing it long enough he often times knows what the answer should be in the RFI that that right so so so we'll phrase it that way but it would be their responsibility to get back to us quickly uh but I mean really um I personally take pride of my relationship with the uh with the architect and the client as as well back in my younger and hot header header days I got into a few into a few fights had arguments with a few Architects and I learned that that was uh just that did not help me at all I'm more of a I like to see the forest not the a tree so my job is to get your job done on time and on budget and whatever else I got to do is
055just you know that's just a periphery you know my job is to get the job done as quickly as possible and stay on budget did want to highlight one thing that I think makes bordo unique um you know pretty much any CM at risk has to have a pre-con department if they're going to be a legitimate c c Mar um our model is that the PM is involved in the job from day one so starting today all the way through construction preon is there for support but the PM is still largely going to be your day-to-day contact the reason why that's an important distinction is if preon runs with the job you get the GMP and they hand it off there's so much law in that handoff that is really valuable information you go through
056design is probably what at least 12 months probably more like 16 18 y'all been probably chasing this job for 20 plus years that history is really important so that's one important distinction when you hire Bordeaux is you'll get the project manager will be involved Matt from day one all the way through warranty phase and that's a really important part precon still there but they're largely support support support and helping the estimating horsepower the scheduling horsepower you know all of that but really it's PM Le is something that that is a significant distinction that we like to to emphasize um you mentioned some subcontractors and Baker and yes and then you talked about your minority numbers and things can you kind of describe your subcontractor prequal ification how how do you look for subcontractors sure you
057want to tackle that one Chris so um we have a pretty wide group of subcontractors that we've worked with um you know when we're when we're pre-qualifying a subcontractor you know we call references we we look at their financials um make sure they're um above water and and and doing well and not biting off more than they can chew uh we want win win win and there a win for you is a win for us and it's a win for them we want everybody to win we're not trying to put people in bad positions to get a low rest um so yeah yeah so one thing I'll add to it uh under CM at risk is General statute 128 um I I know that a long time um one of the the things about the
058semar statute is it indicates that the semar shall pre-qualify and accept bids from all first TI subcontractors so that word shall in there means that we are required by Statute to pre-qualify accept bids um so that's really you know part of our robust pre-qualification process Chris mentioned we go through financials at the end of the day is if we bring a a mechanical or electrical or Plumbing or Mason or concrete sub and they fail we all look bad we're not going to finish on schedule so that's a lot of what our pre-qualification process is the other part that we mentioned is the minority business and we're not immune from understanding how big of a project this is in tarbor in Ash County um we have a vested interest in maximizing the amount of money that
059stays local here uh like the the old adage is why am I going to go mow grass across the the state if I can mow grass in my own backyard now to mention the subcontractors are more responsive so we'll hold Outreach sessions here in edcom uh County and then uh Chris mentioned will write bid Scopes so it's really kind of a matchmaking thing that's really where the magic happens to get those 60s the 40s is you're making matches with the local subcontractors that may not have the capacity to do the full package but still get part of the project there was a uh kind of a a good example of that was down in Bladen County I had a Bon that came up and they said well you I want to participate in this project
060Mr BAU and and U I said well how much you know work have you done well I haven't done masonry in about 10 years and well that's not really going to work out well for you to take on the masonry but they were able to function as a second tier labor crew to the prime which was actually Manning on that job and still participate in that job so it was a local Bladen County minority business was still able to participate in the project but they didn't have the capacity to do the full masonry package that's a good win-win of how do we play matchmaker and get those kind of percentages that far exceed the state minimum goal and maximize local participation thank you we'll do that for you here you've pre-qualified them and you brought
061their subcontractors in how do you manage your job performance from kickoff to finish that's R the Bobby show Bobby you want to jobsite a lot of that is the the quality of work and also communicating with the U the the the contractor and his his tier subcontractor of having job site meetings to make sure that we all understand what it is that we're doing and within a a time frame of of what we're doing so we give them a start date we give them a completion date and we hold them to those dates and we have a uh preconstruction meetings for all of our major subcontractors before they're started before they start you typically about a month before they're on site and then Bobby holds weekly uh subc uh superintendent meetings so we'll get all
062the subcontractors in into our trailer will go over what we call a threee or Bobby Bobby special he does a four-week schedule and the rest of the guys do three weeks but he'll do a four-week schedule you know what's happening every day make sure that there's no uh you know conflicts you know that type that type that type of stuff and uh you know Bobby is U Bobby's firm but but fair so you know he he does take a lot of gruff on site which is good thank you you know supply chain challenged era describe how your firm tracks and procures long lead time materials Miller can probably handle that or Chris either one well like you I don't care we we deal with yeah I mean long long lead time items I mean you
063know it is a challenge I mean for a lot of long lead time items we'll actually try to get it like an early package so if we know that we're have problems with let say you have a generator on site or you have HVAC equipment that that might be a long lead time we might try to get that released early push those some of those through the process kind of ahead of where they nor would be so we can get those order like on my last project not a couple years ago in Johnson County we had a generator that that took uh that took 15 months to it get and that was really a stretch on the entire on the entire on the entire project uh we just have to be aware what the long
064lead time items are talking to the design team you know you know recent projects I mean really the subcontractors will jump up and down scream if they know that something's going to be a long a long late time item yeah I mean I I think one of the the keys is to where working with the designers uh we've seen lead times uh come back down to earth from what they were terrible we still see them uh primarily mechanical and electrical would be two significant items that so that would be large uh electrical gear uh Transformers uh elevator and mechanical equipment so identifying those lead times early in the project uh potentially procuring them direct we've done that as well and handing them over uh Matt you want to talk about some of the VDC and
065prab components so you know one thing um you might be having to release mechanical units you know before you start digging footings um you have to to get them on time but we still want to make sure that what we're releasing is actually going to fit within the cons the confines of the you know mechanical spaces we have so um I can use Pender Kade as an example um we haven't started digging footings there yet but we've had a bunch of meetings where we're in that 3D environment we actually have the vendor models of these mechanical units and we're kind of looking at everything and these we went through every mechanical room making sure everything is going to line up with the shop drawings that we've submitted and we were able to ensure that yeah
066this is all going to fit how we need it um so we're able to release the the mechanical units I think it's like a like a 12 Monon lead time on this so um yeah and the other thing is when we are able to coordinate all these Building Systems um you know with confidence then we can actually prefabricate a lot of the duct systems and piping systems so that can also help out you can uh secure material early you can uh basically assemble it you know off site in a controlled environment and you know you can have it delivered to site when you need it um so that also that also helps with the efficiency of that Mr Alis you mentioned one of the the kind of challenges we've been seeing is so it's not
067just budget but it's also Manpower uh which is also driving budget so uh pre-fabrication is one of our uh key tools that we leverage to help mitigate the Manpower sortage that we're seeing in the construction industry uh so that's pre-fabrication offsite in a controlled Factory environment that's not weather sensitive uh they're reducing waste if you think about a plumbing contractor they cut a twoot stick of pipe off they probably just throw it away in a manufacturing environment that twoot stick goes to use in some other piece of the assembly cuts down on the number of boots on the ground to install it and improve schedule it's better quality and it also addresses the Manpower issue so uh we're heavily invested in this type of Technology it helps mitigate some of those Manpower uh issues and
068as I mentioned it really delivers a better product for the client in a project like ours what challenges do you foresee in the next 24 months of construction of the project the first challenge is going to be to get uh to GMP uh so that's been you know the budget and really dive in roll our sleeves up with the designer um that that's really hurdle number one let's get let's get the design done permits done and get the final cost am uh Bobby what challenges would you kind of see in in construction you want to highlight the question that Matt had asked about the um existing school will it be occupied and then working around you guys schedule to see what areas are we restricted in for as far as lay down for building materials
069or Excavating or where can we put office trailers and then just getting accustomed to the area you know the community just finding out just talking with people there know how how can we disturb you all where it's a problem and that's something that we try to perit in the beginning but and then the the screen that we talked about um but those those are the main three or four things talk PR you want to highight chis um just uh right now um the Market's crazy and and uh you know have robust list of alternates um and so you know you kind of want to approach it conservatively so that you're not faced with a big bust at the end and so you make a list of things that would be good to have but not
070crucial and that way you know you have a you have your list ready that um when you're approaching it conservatively if you have that money left over we we know where it's going on Smart items um that H your needs and one day we have explicitly said that we'll do at least three or four budgets during the design phase typically one at SD which is the schematic design and then one at DD which is the design development and then one at CD which is construction Dr documents and then you know each each one of those you know we're checking out checking the budget to the best of our ability that's through our historical database of all the projects that we've done we're getting subcontractor input you know you know the subs will help us budget
071out you know projects and then the last thing we'll give you will be your G your your GMP so constantly that's that's that's Chris's you know that's Chris's you realm there but you were always trying to maintain that that that that budget and like you said having a list of alternates that you know you know kind of like a wish list of items that you're not counting on but but you would like is often very helpful okay um I think unless someone has a burning question talking about the board uh I would ask this is there anything you would like to share that we have not asked you about well it's close to where Bobby lives yes I'm your neighbor right here in nashow right here at home for me right at home and I
072would give the opportunity I would love to build this so so that way I can talk with my neighbor that he's in another County and I can said let's go ride 97 look at what I've done so yes I heard that you have your superintendent close to the area really important I actually um I se gospel music and I I've sang at that school many years back 10 15 years ago and just going back just to see it now oh wow but yeah being at home oh that's what music Madam chair one thing there there there's there's rumbling about steel maybe be a problem have you heard about talking about the Tariff sir yeah yeah we it's what we we have got we have I filtered a few phone calls in the last couple weeks
073from Subs um for my Northampton high school project where they have said well my steel price is still and aluminum most of right right now right and worried about their hearing even though the tffs I think have hit yet the manufacturers everybody's getting nervous so they're raising their their prices maybe prbly so we're really just dealing with that the best that we can on on a on a on a contract by contract basis yeah I mean here's what I would say about it is is a lot of its fear monitering is overblown okay um you know you hear 25% sounds like a really big number that's 25% on raw materials and that's after it gets kind of factored down into that the actual cost you take out the labor labor is not going up 25%
074it's actually closer to 2 or 3% okay so it's a real impact 2 or 3% on 60 million still you know 1.2 million but it's not as dire of a 25% thing um we can budget around um and that's something that that Chris and his team will work with um Northampton County was uh challenging on budget we took bids back in uh October uh and we just broke ground last week so it's right at the end of 90 days uh there's of the bids none of them were unable to enter into contract and hold their B for 90 days even with the tariffs so um yes it's a real thing but it's not as uh blown out of proportion of the media would make it sound yeah okay one more okay go we're in the
075same ballpark with with labor as Northampton and Halifax we're in that same ballp park have you had a lot of problems with finding people we have and the one thing I would say is that you'll have the the added benefit is uh Halifax will be finishing right when this one's starting so you get all those subs and roll right into it with Bobby uh it was something that really caught Northampton on the chin uh because it had Halifax and then Welden City and then Northampton bid back to back to back and that really really tap the market uh if you had to ask for my kind of you know uh crystal ball of of where will be is there's only a finite number of trade contractors that can go build schools of this magnitude um
076I would Envision that we should be in a lot better shape by the time this project breaks ground some of that initial wave that's really kind of feeling some pain uh should be starting to look for some work uh by then and also I want to say this one thing northampton's challenged is it's just far enough away from you know Raleigh and Wilmington it's just it's just it's like an hour 45 from Raleigh it's 2 hours from Wilmington you know um whereas you're about out you're we're in Morrisville so so right there by the airport you're like an hour and 15 minutes away you know I mean that's that's still in the realm of the Raleigh Durham subs for for sure be my guess from Garner I mean it's you know what 45 minutes or
077so so it's really an hour top so can still get a lot of the the rally Subs which should benefit you y any one minutes now all right uh you all have been very very patient with us and we certainly appreciate each of you now M uh Bobby yes you you have the same name as my sister's husband okay okay you I might talk to you and you from the Grange in North Carolina uh but anyway thank you so much um for this part that BR I let you go from there thank you again for being here um if we have any followup questions we'll certainly let you know as soon as possible and just appreciate your time and information you Shar today thank you thank you yes we can take a five minutes break
078thank you for having us yes [Music] welome thank you so much thank you for coming how you doing all right look forward to it thank you have a great one take care sir have a good yes indeed thank you me do you want us to leave the uh flash drive with [Music] you you have the flash [Music] um okay perfect thank you thank youall again and thank you that East project is coming along I I saw that this weekend good stop by Bobby if you like I didn't think Bobby was going to break into a gospel song okay I've never seen that happen that's a good part they had to tear down and be back e now 48 the old East they I thought they were going to save the gym they let it C
079in and they had to tear everything and all it away and start from scratch but that gym could have been sandwich cuz actually what happened is that they could have put a roof on and they did not it's going to be a pretty [Music] school8 M K8 at Northampton is coming from the ground up ground up high school yeah the ground children's [Music] home e [Music] [Applause] [Music] attorney CDE privileged information second it has been moved in prop second that we will go in to close session any other discuss on the motion all fa motion I oppose same sign Carri close CL [Music] introducing the brand new app for edcom County Schools it's everything ecps in your pocket this is the home screen tap the three horizontal lines in the bottom left to see all
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081[Music] put it up like we Madam chair I make a motion to approve the contract with vines architecture LLC for architecture services for the north Edge col High School construction project for a total amount of 3, 84,000 a second and been moved that properly second that we will approve the bin uh contract in the amount of 3 m [Music] 84,000 car did I include enough all in favor of the motion let it be known by saying I oppose same sign I motion carry the motion carries thank you next on CM a r do we say how much that have been negotiated mam chair I make a motion to select Bordeaux construction company to provide CM services for the north H com School construction project and authorize the superintendent and board attorney to begin the contract
082negotiation process has been moved and properly second that we will approve bordeau uh contract with the attorney and superintendent uh discussion of the contract but we don't have the amount to I say begin negotiation process begin process okay negotiation Pro I'll in favor the motion let it be known by saying I I oppose the same sign motion carries [Music] okay that's the I have something on the back yes now I need to have a motion to adjourn the meeting so move M chair has been moved and properly second that we will adjourn this meeting any other discussion on the motion all in favor of the motion that be known by oppos the same sign motion carried good meeting thank you all