001Good. All right. Good afternoon, everyone. Today is Tuesday, May 6th. It's a few minutes after 4 p.m. and we will convene our Wake County Board of Education work session. Uh we have a simple agenda today. Uh we'll get started with recent planning discussion for the 2026 2027 WCPSS school enrollment plan. Miss Po, welcome. Thank you. Chair Hagerty, Vice Chair Swanson, Dr. Taylor. Thank you so much all members of the board for having me here today. This is your official kickoff. Um the previous session that I came to in March was just to give you an update on what we were going to do for public engagement, but this officially is kicking off the planning cycle for the 2627 enrollment pool. As a reminder, that will not take effect till next summer. The goals for today
002are to take a moment to review your policy on student assignment, which is 40 4150, especially as it relates to developing an assignment plan. Um, in addition, we want to make sure we do a quick review of our planning process, the projected crowding. Most of this you have seen before, uh, but I just want to make sure we put full context into today's conversation and then talk a little bit about what we're going to recommend be included in the plan. So, I want to be very clear, you will not see specific recommendations today, rather recommendations for categories, areas, topics that will be addressed from a staff perspective. Acting really weird. As a reminder, all of the information I'll share with you today is on our assignment planning website. I something weird is going on. Um
003is on our assignment planning website. We also have launched a new general thought exchange that we'll keep open all the way till the end of July. That's based on some parent feedback to be able to have that that feedback window open a little bit longer. We usually end it about this time of year, but we're going to go ahead and keep that one open through July. In addition, we have concluded all of our in-person public engagement sessions for the spring. So, summaries of all of those events are also have been recently posted to the website. We do have two more engagement sessions tomorrow and Thursday where we'll do virtual sessions. The community is receiving that information through their community messages. We also have it available on our website. So, anyone who couldn't attend or maybe
004wasn't invited specifically because they're not in one of the most impacted areas, they're welcome to join us over the next couple of days. We'll record those sessions as well. And Miss Bowen, before you go on, could you just state for general board member awareness which areas of the county are those meetings being held at? So the virtual sessions will be covering the entire district that we do to tomorrow night and Thursday night. The other sessions um I'll kind of drive through, but it's the area like the Salem Middle area following up on the assignment changes that were made last year um around all of Chapel and Balkam. We had some one in the northern area. We hosted it at West Malbrook to follow up on some conversations that we had last year that kind of
005got pulled from the plan towards the end to just talk about cohort feeder patterns and just general assignment concerns in the region now that new school construction is pretty much complete in that region for the foreseeable future. We went out east. It's our next high growth area and it's got some new schools that are getting ready to come online a few years down the road. So, we wanted to have some initial conversations. We hosted that at Wendell Middle and then we of course went and touched on the families that are going to be impacted by the opening of Hilltop Needmore Elementary um since that school is scheduled to open for 2627. Thank you. You're welcome. So again, I'm going to try to go through this section as quickly as possible. It is not new information
006for our board members, but if anyone's tuning in for the first time, it's just always a good idea to level set and make sure everyone's seeing the same information. So the anchoring policy for student assignment work is embedded in policy 4150 specifically section A on the drawing of school attendance areas. The board has directed staff to look at four core pillars. Student achievement, stability, proximity, and operational efficiency and coming forward with recommendations related to student assignment. And each of those do have a specific definition as outlined in policy. There's a much lengthier of the actual full policy as well as a video that walks through and describes this policy in greater detail on our assignment planning website. However, we just wanted to remind everyone that each of these pillars not only has a prescriptive definition
007as outlined in policy, but they're also not ranked or prioritized in any particular order. Staff is asked to look at each every pillar when making a recommendation. And while in some areas, let's say operational deficiency, opening a new school might be a driving factor for particular recommendations, we are asked to look at all four as we're coming to you with recommendations. This the last couple of years, we've made a concerted effort to help make sure that the community understands. It's a lengthy process that we go through that's a multi-year approach candidly, but in an annual cycle, there's six core steps that we follow to get to the point where not only we're presenting recommendations for an enrollment plan, but then we're following up with other additional changes that might be required to support the district
008that can't be done through a enrollment plan. So, there's six core steps. At this stage in the 2627 process, we are actively engaging in step four. You will notice if you look carefully that there are some month overlaps. Um so while we're currently in step four for the 2627 plan, we're still finishing up step six from the last plan. And that information and those decisions that you make about step six, which is adjusting utilization for calendar. Um those types of decisions that you'll be making in the next couple of weeks will be really impactful for and inform the development of a 2627 plan. We'll talk more about that as we get to that step. As again, a reminder for all, the enrollment forecast is really what kicks this off. It gives us a better idea
009of how many students were projected to have for the coming school year, as well as a 10-year outlook. Um, and you receive this in February. The spatial distribution you see here is something that we do shortly after that projection presentation is given to you, so that we can then figure out not only how many students were projected to grow by over the next 10 years, but where and throughout the district they're located. And what I'd like to draw everyone's attention to is I did say growth. We're still a growing district. If you'll look at the way that the visual depictions are on this particular graphic, there's not a single downward reduction, you know, decreased enrollment growth arrow that's nearly as large as our growth arrows. So, we are still a growing district. We're a growing
010county. and our public school district, Wake County Public Schools, is still projected to continue to increase in enrollment over the next 10 years. Specifically, we then look at the coming school year. So, as we get closer and closer to July 1, we'll be ready to start looking at the 2526 operational. Um, and we're looking at how that membership forecast is indicating how crowded our schools are going to look like this coming school year and using that as one of our data points. So, we're projected to have 162,420 students going into the 2526 school year. We won't bring it up now, but this obviously drives part of your budget conversations, which I know are a lively active topic for this week. Um, just as a that's over 1,000 additional students beyond what we're servicing today. The
011crowding then that we look at um regionally or by area at we'll start here at the elementary level. You've seen these maps before. I think Glenn first presented them with the calendar conversion conversations, but you'll notice the dark red areas acknowledge elementary schools that even going into the 2526 school year are projected to be operating at or above 110% crowding. Some of those are in areas where we have recently opened new schools and we'll start to see that rightsize itself a little bit, but some of them are in areas where we don't have new schools coming or areas where schools are continuing to operate on a traditional calendar or areas where new schools are coming but not for another five or six years. So, we do want to continue to look at this type of
012information as we're coming to you with recommendations for next year's plan as well as all future plans. At the middle school level, we're getting a little bit more manageable in terms of our distribution of students and our availability of seats. We still do have at least two areas that are experiencing projected overcrowding. Uh both of which are actually uh cap schools. So, we do want to continue to look at those and see if any relief can be provided with an enrollment plan. We do want to acknowledge that Parkside Middle is the next middle school on the table, but it's not coming for several years. So we won't have recommendations for that school for the 26 27th school year, but we may have recommendations that don't involve that area so that we're not impacting families so
013closely together in a short period of time. The high school level, we're almost there. We're getting really close. The opening of Felton Grove High School really is going to make a difference in the western region. The opening of Morrisville High School a couple years from now will make a huge impact in that sort of Kent Creek Green Hope right around the airport region. That'll make a huge difference. Um, but you'll notice that where we have a lot of upward-f facing blue arrows on our growth map, the eastern part of the county, we're starting to already see some 100% utilization and more. So, we do want to keep our eye on all regions of growth throughout the district while we're coming to you with recommendations for this and future plans. The next stage in the process,
014as you'll recall, is going through your capital improvement plan. So, as a board, you've been reviewing that and I believe March and April was when you sort of finalized the plans there. Um, so just as a quick reminder, the schools that are highlighted in green on this chart, Bowling Road, Pleasant Plains Road, and Rex Road Elementary Schools along with Felton Grove High School, they're all going to open for this coming school year. You've already approved assignment areas for these schools. You did that in November of last year. Families have been informed. They're working through that process. The only school that's projected to open new for 2627 is Hilltop Needmore Elementary. And as most of you will uh recognize, it's currently serving as a swing space for Fewway Arena Elementary while it's undergoing some minor renovations.
015So the projected completion of that project is in line with being able to open Hilltop Needmore as its own independent school in 2627, much like we did with Woods Creek. If you'll recall, it held Buckham for a couple of years while it completed its renovation and then opened up its own new school. not an uncommon practice for us as a district trying to leverage those resources where we can. Just as a quick geography spatial distribution, the schools that are um highlighted with the green circles here represent those new schools projected to open in 2526, which is why you saw a major difference if you did the comparative analysis on the projected crowding charts in some of these areas. We've made a huge difference um in crowding and cap schools in these regions. Um Hilltop Needmore
016is in that same sort of cluster, but it's more in the Pwave Arena area. Then the other schools that you see here highlighted with the darker gray or black circles represent those that are in the out years of the capital improvement plan. So we won't necessarily have specific recommendations for these schools in this year's plan, but we are mindful of their opening when we are coming to you with other recommendations. I think I've said this at a previous session, but you'll notice Little Creek Elementary is labeled in the Zebulun area. You have officially named that school. It's just not yet popped up on the seven-year capital improvement plan for funding. possibly we'll add a circle of bless when we know when that one is going to be funded, but we want to be mindful of
017its existence when we're coming up with recommendations in that region. The one thing that we added this year was to make sure we highlight the major renovation projects that are also included in the capital improvement plan because most of these do adjust usually increase the capacity of a school after the major renovation project and that can sometimes lead to assignment recommendations to take advantage of that additional space. So, we wanted to make sure we were really clear with the public that both new construction and renovations are really impactful to assignment planning decisions. Specific to the 2627 school year, Swift Creek Elementary is projected to be in its fully renovated campus for the 2627 school year. We're not sure yet if we're going to take advantage of that available additional capacity right away, but we are
018looking at the impacts of that school moving back into its fully renovated site. One that you don't see on this list that I just mentioned a few slides ago is Fuway Arena Elementary. It's not considered a major renovation project in the same bucket in terms of funding category as these, but it is a school that is projected to have some increased capacity when its renovation is complete. So, those are the types of things we're also looking at in addition to new school construction when looking for available capacity that can help support us in high growth areas and areas that that have schools that are significantly overcrowded. Again, just a visual distribution of where these schools are located throughout the county. And here you see the location of Swift Creek Elementary highlighted by the circle. Then
019we're ready for step four. Right. And some of this overlaps. Um you'll notice that I've highlighted public engagement in green. It's not quite finished, but we're wrapping it up this week. So, we'll finish up our uh live public engagement activities on Thursday of this week and then we'll continue with some of our asynchronous options as we go throughout the summer. But today, we're here to start talking about your review of your annual goals. So, just as a reminder, our public engagement started in March. We have both asynchronous and synchronous opportunities for families, in person and virtual. So, we'll we'll report out on all of those for you in June. It takes us a while to take all that information and pull it together for you. uh but early indications I'll share with you as we
020get to some of the future slides. Um one thing that we hear a lot throughout the planning process is well why am I participating in this public engagement? Can I really make a difference? And the short answer is absolutely yes you can. Um we've seen changes in the stability rules over the last several years based on community feedback. They're much more generous not only for individual students but for families as a whole so that families can have stability of assignment for a longer period of time than we were previously able to do. So that's specifically in response to community feedback. We've changed our strategy for the opening of new schools. Instead of trying to fill them to let's say 70 or 80% capacity in the first year, we come to you with a mixture of
021existing neighborhoods and new residential development so that the schools can fill a little bit more gradually. lessons learned from some community perspectives about having their school fill up so quickly, particularly when it's in a high- growth area, and may even have to be capped or have reassignments maybe two or three years after opening. So, in response to that community feedback, you'll notice a difference first with Woods Creek and then with this year's elementary schools, just a slightly different approach to the assignment patterns for those schools. Um, in addition, enhanced neighborhood continuity and adjusted feeder pattern assignments. You'll see more and more as we go through our assignment plans addressing cohort continuity for families when they feel like they're being split. That we do have some extremely large neighborhoods. We're fortunate as a high-grade district that
022we do have some really large neighborhoods that quite simply by the numbers can't fit in a single school, but we certainly can work to reduce the number of times that they're divided. Um in addition, if we can bring them back together as they get to those upper grades where the schools have a larger capacity. So we are taking that into consideration each year where feasible. Um and then you'll also see expanded access to planning resources. We hope that the public has seen that year over year over year there are more and more resources available at their fingertips online to help them understand what data we use to inform the planning process and how we navigate through the planning process. And of course there's more smaller changes here and there. Uh but there are lots and
023lots of ways that the community feedback particularly in the last three or four years has made a huge in influence on how we develop assignment plans. So we're here today to talk to you about your goals for the next enrollment plan and then we'll come to you back in the fall with your first official initial draft and and go from there. Again, all of the information we're sharing is located on the planning page, including the summaries of all of those public engagement events we've already had over the last really three years. um they're all located in one curated area. I won't belabor this point, but after we get done with the enrollment plan in November, we'll be coming to you shortly thereafter with, hey, we still got a handful of schools that are really crowded
024that we don't have a immediate solution for that perhaps calendar change really isn't the way to go. So, we may be coming to you with capping recommendations. So, you approved these in February of this year to continue on and carry us into the 2526 school year. So, we'll be bringing more recommendations to you um probably in the December time frame. Our goal, I will say, is to officially start getting this list shorter. Um we've held it steady for a year or two. We got a little bit shorter a year or so ago. So, the goal is to continue to to take advantage through operational efficiency and new school construction renovations as well as some other assignment and calendar decisions to be able to get this list even smaller. The other thing that's happening right now
025as a tail end of last year's plan and sort of a an input into this year's plan is looking at school utilization beyond simple capping. We have schools that are running on a traditional calendar that are extremely overcrowded that might benefit from the additional capacity that a multitrack year round calendar could uh afford. We have some schools that are operating on a multi-track year round calendar that maybe growth has kind of peaked in that region and may not necessarily need the support of that many extra seats and potentially could be recommended for a reduction in tracks or even a change to traditional. That conversation we advanced um I think the chair will remember we took this into about August of last year based on a lot of community feedback said that is way too late
026in the process for families to find out and staff candidly to find out about these types of changes. So, we've advanced that schedule significantly and we'll continue to press forward with getting that as early as possible. So, you will be hearing those final recommendations from Mr. Carza, I believe in June. Um, specifically, I think Lake Myra Elementary is the one that you're looking at right now. And that information and public engagement is ongoing. So, again, here's where we are in step four. And so, what should you expect? So based on what we've heard from the community, based on what we know as staff, as stewards of taxpayer dollars, as you know, knowledgeable participants in the capital improvement planning process, we have four core areas that we really feel as as a planning team that we
027would like to work on. One obviously is the opening of a new elementary school, specifically Hilltop Needmore Elementary. We've also learned not only will we be recommending an attendance area for the school, but we will most likely be coming forward with middle school and high school adjustments as necessary to go ahead and get that cohort and feeder pattern alignment in place on day one. We've learned from our lessons that doing it as a trickle effect really makes it harder for families to to get their their students all together. So, we will most likely be recommending some changes along on all three levels to support the opening of that new school. Please keep in mind that while we're talking about the opening of Hilltop Needmore, there's always a chance for some domino or cascading impacts in
028the region as one school maybe now has some open seats that could relieve another school that's overcrowded, much like what we did in the Holly Springs community this past year. We thank them for their their generosity and their patience as we work through that. But we really feel like that gave us the best way to do that and then walk away for a number of years and just let let everyone do it versus continuously coming back year-over-year to the same region to do sort of what I would call tripaway changes. Let's get them all in place, especially with the general stability rule. So, we're probably going to stick with those recommendations as well. Completed renovation projects. I can't say today whether or not we will have specific recommendations for schools like Swift Creek and Fugquway.
029If you'll recall, when Bacham Elementary and Fway Marina Middle moved into their fully renovated campuses, we gave them a year to kind of settle into the new space before we looked at changing the attendance area. We may take that same approach with these two schools or if need is greater than time will allow, we might have some specific recommendations. So, they're not off the table, but they are um something for us to factor in and to think about. The other two areas that we're going to be focusing on as we have been for the last several years are crowding and transportation. So we still have a number of overcrowded cap schools with no new construction, no renovation projects adding capacity and certainly trailers and you know adding trailers to campuses isn't a sustainable way for
030us to continue to approach these these concerns. So, we will have we do plan to have recommendations for you to help alleviate some of our cap schools, particularly when there's available capacity in nearby schools. Um, we also want to see what we can do to reduce the need to rely so heavily on cap schools. As you may be aware, our overflow schools really get a little bit stuck in this process because they're constantly serving a new population of students. sometimes they get called back to the capped out school or the cap school and it creates some instability for our overflow schools as well. So, not only will this help families have more certainty in their assignments and provide some stability of assignment, it might also address some issues we're having um operational efficiency wise, even
031academic programming wise at some of our overflow schools. So, we're looking to bring you some some recommendations to support both of those challenges. Um, in addition, if we can find any inefficient transportation routes that are being caused specifically because of an assignment pattern that we can alleviate with some sort of a recommendation, we've been doing that for years now. We'll continue to bring you any of those that we think are feasible and fit within your policy guidelines. Um, and then we I already mentioned off the sort of the top of the hour, but we do have some promises that were made last year as we made some base assignment changes at the elementary level that we would come back after hearing some very specific feedback and get some recommendations on what we need to do.
032Early indications are not only are we looking for a middle school change, but a whole K12 cohort continuity. So, we will most likely have recommendations at both the middle school and high school level to support some of the changes that were approved for the 2526 school year. And those are the four core areas that staff and the planning team really thought important to bring to your attention. But at this point, I'd open it to questions or additional ideas for consideration. Um, and while it may not seem like we don't have sufficient time, September will get here before you know it. And it takes a lot of work to get through the models and the scenarios. So, if you could at all possible, give us an indication that there's other areas you'd like for us to
033consider or areas you'd like for us to take off the table. Um, now is the time, sir. So, I'll turn it over to you. Thank you, Miss Podium. And you couldn't have ended on a better note. Um, you know, it really is important to pay attention to these items sooner rather than later. So, as we get ideas, we can float them in the community. We can get feedback and we can research potential impacts. As Miss Pulling said, often times a change that looks good in isolation might have cascading impacts that you need to take into consideration. That's happened to me before by constituents coming and recommending a change, but then not realizing what that would mean down the road with other feeder patterns, and when confronted with those, they withdrew their support for the original
034proposal. So, um, what I what I'd like to do, uh, if I could, and I know it might seem a little early, but I'd like to suggest that at our next work session, 6:20, we dedicate at least some I keep doing that. I keep doing that. Totally. That's twice now today. Thank you, Miss Evans. Um, Vice Chair Swanson caught me earlier at our 520 work session. Um, if we could devote just a little bit of time to going over some of these concepts that you talked about, I think this will be timely not just in getting us ready, but right now in our legislature, there's a number of pieces of legislation that address student assignment, school capacity. We've had constituents reach out to us about overflow schools, um, K3 class size, and so going through
035some of these elements and if board members have specific topics they'd like to address or I can share some of the ones that have been discussed with me. um you know it won't necessarily be a deep dive but just sort of a a primer a reminder of how all these issues work together why we have an assignment plan what the impacts of cap schools and uh overflow schools and some of these things are and I think that'll help us and guide us as we go get into like more specific suggestions later I'll open it up does anyone have any specific topics you'd like staff to prepare share some feedback on Miss Math. Yeah, I'm I just want to lift up um the impact and and thank Miss Williams for talking about the impact on the
036overflow schools. Um, I know having several in my district and I know many of you feel that as well in here just how difficult it is for planning purposes and um appreciate that that will be coming to a future potential work session or student achievement committee meeting. Thank you. Other thoughts, Dr. Uh, yes. Thank you. Um, I'm uh thankful that you're going to be talking about theater patterns. Um I think that in my district um we've had many uh uh concerns about the feeder pattern particularly at one of our elementary school that has multiple you know um uh uh middle school um uh uh they can go to and and that has raised um some um concern from parents about you know that their their child is the one of the very few people going
037to one school in middle school and it it just really causes a lot of uh anxiety and stress on their part. So, if we can take a look at that kind of deep dive into it, I appreciate it. Thank you. Any other thoughts? Again, this isn't the the deadline. Anything else that you come up with, feel free to share with staff. But Miss Rice, um I just really just felt like it was necessary to say that um the craft work that you all do in student assignment is not necessary um an easy piece of apple pie. And um I just want to just really raise up appreciation um and thanks um for what you guys are doing trying to do. I've been on this board now for a year and I've watched the increase of
038community engagement. I've watched the increase of trying to hear what families are saying and then I've watched you try to implement those things um and then share things back with us so that we can make the best decisions and policy to um make student assignment as as more comfortable as possible with the different dynamics that comes in it. So I think Miss Pulum understands as our years journey on this board together with me that when I say thank you to you and your team, it it means it means something um valuable to me. That's all. All right. Thank you. And with that, if there's no other immediate feedback, again, if you have time, you might want to go back and review last year's plans if there's anything that came up that was of interest to
039you. Those are all things um and I'm particularly interested um that you're taking up this idea of looking at additional capacity opportunities at renovated schools. Miss Evans, um for um not to put the two of you on the spot, but Miss Gordon and Miss Rice, if you haven't attended one of their engagement sessions with families, they really are helpful. Um I only did No, I did two. I went to two um in the last assignment cycle and I found them really really helpful. Um they really complemented what we get here. Um and you get to hear the you know um questions directly from the families and I think they appreciate seeing us. Um can't always do that in person. So I know the virtual thing stays online and we can watch those. But I highly
040recommend them. I mean I won't be able to go to did you say tonight and tomorrow? Uh Wednesday and Thursday. Wednesday and Thursday. tonight doesn't make sense, but Wednesday and Thursday, I mean, I can't I can't go, but um you know, maybe I can watch, you know, later. So, I just found them very helpful. So, just have a quick question and I'm just thumbing through here just for reference. How many cap schools and overflow schools do we have? And and if you don't have that off the top, it's 20. We'll count together. Slide 33 for cap schools. Is it 33? 22. So you got 22 total cap schools. There's a slightly reduced number of overflow schools cuz some overflow schools, believe it or not, serve two cap schools. So it's even more destabilizing for their
041populations. But we can certainly get you a followup on that. Yeah, I think it's just helpful for the public to hear like cuz we all sit through your presentations and know how much you guys go through hoops trying to figure out how you can make it the least impactful, operationally efficient, still hold your student achievement guidelines and hit proximity when we can. Yeah. So that's helpful I think for people to understand. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Well, with that, that'll conclude our items unless you have any closing statements. Real quick, I always like to highlight your timeline so you know where we are in space and time. So, today obviously is May 6. We're having our initial planning discussion. One thing that will feed this year's plan because we've accelerated the timeline or any
042decisions that you decide to make about calendar changes for 2627. And so, I know that presentation is coming to you, I believe, the first meeting in June. Um, so some public engagement getting ready to happen for that one as well. And then I'll come to you in June just as a quick touch point because the public information that we're collecting and the feedback we're collecting has become so voluminous and impactful that I really think you need to get it in a standalone digestible format. And the report that we came out with last year toward the fall will give you version one in June this year. So that's a new implementation for us. So you'll get version one of that feedback report in June. So you have a little bit longer with that first version. We'll
043just keep updating it as we go. Um, so then by September 2nd, staff feels comfortable only opening one school, we should be able to bring you an initial draft and give ourselves that same six week window we gave ourselves last year so we can have an in-person event, particularly for those that'll be impacted by the opening of the new school, as well as whatever virtual events that we need to have to support sharing information and answering questions. We'd also ask that the board consider having your public hearing then at the October meeting early enough that you're hearing that information early in the process so that anything you'd like to direct staff to do with that information, we've got sufficient time to bring you any revisions in time for the November board meeting, the 18th. I'll
044sort of look to all of you. I'm not sure that that'll be your meeting dates. I know meeting dates sometimes shift with the holiday season, but we're looking for something in November to bring you a final draft for review and approval. So, Miss Poem, I have to ask because I appreciate everything with the timeline, but when we have the public hearing early, if residents do come and suggest something for a change, we've talked about those cascading impacts and some, you know, it'll be different this year as opposed to last year we were opening four new schools. But if there is a change that needs to be made, if it would change anyone else's assignment pattern that wasn't involved at the initial level, would that still allow for that or do we need to that would
045actually allow you some time for that where normally when you have it a week or two before your final approval, there's less there's only really space to take things out. There's really nothing no space to add something else. Okay. So So this would this would scratch that itch per se. It would give staff plenty of time to respond. So, so neighborhoods that are contacted about potential changes should be on notice even if they're not included specifically in the first plan. What we would do is follow up with them. Okay? We always will do that. If there's a change to the plan that wasn't in the initial draft, we'll specifically reach out to families who would potentially be impacted to say, "Okay, here's a change that wasn't in the initial draft." We try hard not to
046do that for that very reason. We try really hard to only remove things from the plan as we go along or make adjustments that the community is really vehemently asking for. Um, but you're right. Anything that we do post October 21st, it gets hard for families to go, "Wait, I wasn't paying attention cuz I thought I was in the clear and now all of a sudden you're telling me I'm impacted." So, anything like that, you as a board would certainly need to take that into consider. We will do anything we need to to get families informed, but um, yeah, it's better to tell us early. Okay. Appreciate it. Just trying to get as much information out on the front end, right, as we can. All right. Are there any final questions for Miss Pull? All
047right. Thank you very much, Vice. So, Vice Chair Swanson is uh making a motion to go into close session for the statuto reasons stated in our uh agenda for tonight's board meeting. Second. Is there a second? We have a second from Miss Edmonds. All in favor of going into close session signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? All right, we'll give the room a moment to clear and then we'll go into close session. Thank