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Keene Board of Education Policy Committeee 11.25.25

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2025-11-26
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001Good evening and welcome to the Keen Board of Education policy meeting for Tuesday, November 25, 2025. I've been screwing up that date all day because there's too many 20s and 25s in it. Um, we would normally open with public input. Um, the only public is Dr. Gallagher who is here to talk about a couple of our policies. Anyway, you got anything else to add or you just gonna wait your turn? >> Okay. All right. We're going to open. Uh, can I have a motion to approve the minutes of the October 28, 2025 meeting? >> Second. >> Any concerns, corrections, etc. >> They look good. >> All those in favor? Any opposed? Carries 30. Thank you, Jennifer. Uh, we're going to open with AC, which we thought we had finished with. This is non-discrimination equal opportunity

002employment and anti-discrimination plan. Um we've received feedback from the board on this. Um after first read it should have been for the last meeting and was not. So now it's for this meeting because some of it is extensive enough that it would not have been able to pass it as a scribbler's error. So the easy one. What in the heck are you doing? Oh, Rob got us live. All right. Can you get policy AC up? >> All right. And this was at the board for second read. We were all done with it here. Um, can you go to section G, right? Or non-discrimination officer. We're really supposed to pick a title. This could have been a scribbler's error. Um, and we could have passed it at the full board, but this was the easy one.

003But we're really supposed to put in what we actually call this position. >> And if we don't care, then we should just call it the human rights officer and be done with it. >> Yeah, I'm I'm comfortable with that. >> Yeah. And I think it might show up in the block. Yeah, just after the paragraph it shows up as well. and were that the only catch that would be easy. All right, move ahead to H. >> [laughter] [clears throat] >> So, um, it's a little bit past >> October 15th, >> October 15, 2020. So, um, presumably we already have such a plan. Um, so I think that probably what you do is eliminate those first three paragraphs, which might just be three sentences, but replace it with something along the lines of the anti-discrim or

004the district anti-discrimination plan can be found wherever the hell it can be found. I don't know that we can link things. Yeah, >> sorry my microphone. That requirement is ongoing that so maybe it should say that the superintendent shall >> review >> develop, maintain and provide the board board for approval, you know. So because as the law changes on these things, so too will this plan, the anti-discrimination plan. So >> I don't think we can just delete them. I think they should be maintained. But I agree that it's silly to have that date. That date comes straight out of the statute. That's where why it's in our policy to begin with, >> right? >> Yeah. Jacqueline, >> I was gonna say I'm looking at the um uh email that u Miss Walker sent us, you

005know, a few weeks ago and yes, she did strike out those first three paragraphs and then she um provided a suggestion of opening for H would be the anti-discrimination plan can be found here. Then we could have a link or we can just say it's on the website and a paper copy may be requested by contacting the director of human resources or whomever we're going to designate that owns that. Then it would go to the no less than once every two years paragraph which we already have. And then um some other language page suggested as a new paragraph after that is when the anti-discrimination plan is updated and reviewed semicolon considerations for the plan among other things, should include provisions and recommendations with respect to resources, policies, complaint procedures, student education programs, plan dissemination, and

006training appropriate to carrying out the plan objectives stated in the preceding paragraph. So again, what I'm reading from is that email. >> So pages pages language is cleaner, but it's probably simpler >> to just keep with the no less than two. >> Well, yeah, but the preceding paragraph is not the preceding paragraph. The the words the preceding paragraph is intended to reference the very first paragraph. >> Where where even are you? So pages language tracks the second paragraph of section H. >> Yep. >> So the preceding paragraph is paragraph the first paragraph that begins October 20, 2020. Um my suggestion is maybe we just strike no later than October 15, 2020. Start with capital T. The superintendent shall develop comma maintain comma and provide the board for approval coordinated plan to include guidelines, protocols, procedures

007intended to prevent assess. Keep that language there. And then the language page put back in which begins among other things would just stay right where it is. And that way we're not talking in past tense. It's a >> that's what I was going to say too. I do think that her language might be cleaner from a um >> I like the idea of a link. >> Yeah. >> But >> I don't know if we can >> then we got to keep the link updated, >> right? >> Which I which worries me because we have so many >> the NHSBA could recategorize this then we're out of luck. So I just >> we'll never remember >> your microphone. Can we put in language that would just reference that the superintendent shall cause the plan to be

008posted on the website >> because >> you're right. If we put a link in and something changes, then we've got to change the policy continually, >> right? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Next time we update the website, it will move. >> Yeah. >> Jacqueline. Um, should we also include the language about a paper copy can be requested? >> I don't see any reason to admit that. It's a Some people don't have access to >> Exactly. Yeah. >> that they're not reading this, [laughter] >> but sure. >> No, actually, we do have to put this in some places anyway. Yeah. This like shows up in handbooks and stuff. So, yeah, I think that's the way to go. um eliminate the no later than the date and um include the superintendent. She'll cause this to be posted or

009a paper copy can be obtained. >> Oh, and there's one more item too to correct um the retaliation. We're not >> No, it's um Do you see the paragraph or I'll let you finish that, Rob. Sorry, >> that's not Rob, >> that's me. >> Oh, Adam, sorry. Um the in the developing the plan comma the superintendent instead. Um it was suggested >> Yeah. >> Oh, gotcha. I see what you're saying now. Adam's driving. Gotcha. What was the language from page about the >> the where it can be found? >> The anti- uh oh the um the anti-discrimination plan can be found on the website and a paper copy may be requested by contacting what what do we want to say? Director of Human Resources, SAU 29 central office >> said contacting central office because anything

010else you're contacting Sha or Holly for. >> So you wouldn't be you don't want to be contacting Andy directly, >> right? So just say contact the central SA29 central office. >> Y >> how's that? But >> plan should be available on the district website and available >> would it would it be should be >> office >> wouldn't it be >> shall be or is available >> shall be >> yeah shall be posted there you go >> yep >> I think that achieves the intent of what was edited right Yes. Um, and then let's see up above you got rid of the first paragraph, the no later than >> go up two paragraphs >> in developing the plan, >> right? And instead she suggested >> the plan. >> Yeah. Updating the plan. The superintendent And we

011could even get rid of the in just right out of the gate updating the plan. Or I guess that's flow is better to say in updating the plan. >> All right. And then we're up to >> section F. >> I I just we got rid of the tidying up at the at the beginning of H, right? >> Yes. >> Okay. All right. This is more a I think it's more a discussion than anything else. So this paragraph is that um no no rep no retaliation will be taken by the board or district against somebody who issues a complaint. Basically, um, Paige suggests including a separate paragraph that says no retaliation will be taken by the complainant against the board or district on account of the decisions. I'm not >> Yeah, you're going to say the

012same thing I have. Go ahead. >> I don't know that we can control them. >> The complaint. >> That's what I was thinking because it might be parents. This these policies govern how we operate and we provide a a structure for which people can operate. But to your point about parents, they're you know we provide them a structure for their appeals and their rights, but I don't know that we can control their retaliation. We just >> Yeah. >> It has to go through our channels, I guess, is what I would say. >> Yeah. Which it always It already does. >> I like the idea. >> We've >> Can you read it to me? What was the suggestion? >> No reprisals or retaliation of any kind will be taken by the complainant or other individual against

013the board or district employee on account of their decision regarding a complaint or report or making statements or participating in the course of an investigation or grievance procedure. I mean, I like I like it, but one could argue that we are stifling free speech with that with that broad brush against people who are making complaints. >> Yeah. >> So, >> I I fall on the side of we can't really tell parents, >> you know, we can tell them what to do within our building, >> right? So, a parent could conceivably be violating that by posting something online about how bad we are and they have that right. >> Found it or not. >> Yeah. Yeah, we just went through a lot of this last year. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. So, I >> the concept

014is great. I think it it it protects employees as well as board members, but I don't think we can enforce it. >> No. And there are other protections. Um >> we would have to go Yeah. the route of of the legal route. >> Yeah. >> My concern is that Yeah. if we can't enforce it. And um I worry that you know I guess what I'd say is that staff relies on these policies and if they see that in there they would think that it's that we can prevent say hey you're not allowed to do that. Oh yeah and then we got >> so I I respectfully disagree with that >> comment or revision and I don't think we can conclude it. >> Yeah I I would agree. >> All right. So we leave F for

015retaliation as is. We made the changes to human rights and to the anti-discrimination plan. Anything else on this? >> All right. Everything else remains the same as it was. So can I have uh the motion? >> Make a motion to recommend to the uh full board policy AC. >> I will second that. >> As amended. >> Yes. Sorry. As amended. >> All those in favor? Any opposed? Carries. 30 AC to full read in December to full board for second read. All right. Uh what's next? >> IKF >> All right. Program of studies. Yes. No. Graduation. Where am I looking? Am I going to education? Is that where it got posted >> for last week? Okay. Yeah, there's an email from November 15th. >> Yeah, that should be >> How about the 15th? >> 15 sent

016to me, you, Shaina, and Kathy. I think so. >> Yeah, we think we're broadcasting. So, yes. Are we really? Who knows? [laughter] >> Are we really? >> Is this updated from what went to education a couple of months ago? No, it's the text that Well, let me back up. Yes, because I filled in everything that we put at education. >> Okay. >> So, it reflects everything from education. >> All right. And for review, this went to education. Education sent it to us. um full board received it as a first read um a week ago so that we would be able to approve this at the December or the full board would be able to vote on this at the December meeting >> so that it can be included in the program of studies. Did we

017approve the program of studies last week? >> We did. >> Weren't supposed to. >> We weren't supposed to. [laughter] >> And I got a complaint about that, but it was me that did it. So, >> I was Yes, you did approve it. >> Yeah, I got a complaint from one of the board members, but that was on me. So, you did exactly what I asked you to do, and then I didn't do what I asked me to do. All right. Anyway, I um revised program, not program, revised graduation requirements primarily based on changes in state law. Is that correct? Yes. Yeah. So they've added and you guys saw this in program of studies as well. There's been a couple um graduation requirements added by the state. Um >> the other section that's new to us

018in IKF is the certificate of attendance section which are for the students that are in special ed and it just describes what their procedural rights are and how it's built inside their IEP whether they graduate four years past 8th grade or as if part of their plan they graduate. and that's participating in the ceremony because they go to school until right before their 22nd birthday, but it's driven by their IEP conversation. Typically, we do it four years after 8th grade. So, they walk with the class they've grown up with. Um, that's new to our document. It's not a required part of the law. It was just in the schoolboard association's document. >> Is that the former IKFA policy? >> I don't know what IFA is. This is certificate of attendance. So, it's kids that aren't

019getting a diploma, but they get to be a part of the celebration. >> Okay. [laughter] Use this one. >> So, if you'll remember, for the next couple of years, we'll have two sets of tables in here. It's a three table document, one for each diploma, but we'll be carrying two sets until the next year's freshmen are in for four years. Then everybody will have grandfathered through which is making our program of studies a little bit bigger as well. Um, some other pieces in there. We clarified the language about the citizenship test. That was a conversation at ed committee. The citizenship test now is one test, 128 questions. It's not two parts and it's not local. We actually administer it through the state tide system which is what we do New Hampshire SAS through. So I

020clarified that that is separate from the competencies of civics and so people are twisting that up but I fixed that in here to clarify that we had that conversation right when we were coming up on it. Um and then I picked the October 31 date for the financial aid information and I did that based on our programming calendar. We always do a financial aid night someplace in October. Um I think one year it went late because I think that's the year FASA was a mess. So I I did go out to the end of October, but I So we have to notify everybody about financial aid and I put that date in. We could go back to the 15th. It doesn't really matter to me either way. >> Should that say of each year? >>

021Oh yes. I'm sorry. It should say October 31st of each year. Thank you for catching that. So we do that through newsletters and we do it through an a program that everybody's invited to >> or just of the students. >> Yeah, just of a student's senior year. That's >> the date. We don't need the year. >> Rob, can you go back the other direction slow so I can see if I'm over? Okay. message. Okay, we did that. Oh, it's E and F are the same section. That F shouldn't be there. It It should be E. Okay. Can you go to what would they think is D next? Okay. That's the certificate of attendance. And then C is all the tables. And there's six of them. Section B. Sorry, I'm going backwards. That's where you were

022in the document. >> Section B is early grad. That's IKF. >> That's IKFA. Yeah, I just looked. Aren't >> we Aren't we rescending IKFA? >> You have to pass this before you resend. >> Right. And that's actually what our motion said. IFA will be rescended upon passage of the new of the revised IKF. >> And that that language there It's in section B is essentially the entirety of IKFA, right? >> I believe so. Yeah. >> Yes. >> Parental involvement. Yeah. So, we should just strike the reference because that is IKFA right there. Yeah. >> And then you can answer my question as yes or delete my question. That's what I was asking. Are you sending that? >> I think we've actually voted on that. I think we sent it to full board. The motion was

023>> on passing >> I'll look it up before we get to >> think it was conditional. We were we were cognizant of this at night. >> Yeah, it was definitely conditional when it left this committee. I just don't remember if we actually voted on it at full board. So, I'll look it up before >> a little bit higher where the green E is and then look at the sentence above there. There's a timeline that's imposed in the current document of two semesters from graduation. I would like you guys to get rid of that timeline. Many times this decisions made in the last semester at the last minute as a way to help a kid across. I don't want people planning for a 20 credit diploma. I want them to plan for a 24 credit diploma

024and then I want them to petition for the 20 credit diploma. So that no earlier than two semesters. So two semesters that would mean they're not I'm sorry. no earlier than two semesters >> coming into their senior year. That's what I that's what I'm trying to say to you. Plan for a 20 credit diploma as a freshman. >> And I'm like that's not what this is for. >> So anyways, that's what that I think I added that language as opposed to taking it out. I wanted you to hear it's about senior year decision, not a I'm getting out of school at the end of my sophomore year. >> Where do they where do they um >> petition with whom? to me. There's a process. There's there's there's forms and everything. >> There's parent signatures. There's

025>> So, should we put that in there? Petition to the principal for approval? It is. >> Okay. >> Petition for approval, but it doesn't >> to the principal is what I'm saying. >> Should the policy say who they petition to? >> Petition to the principal for approval. >> Students interested in a 20 credit diploma must petition the principal for approval. All right. Do you guys have anything else? Go to Jacqueline. >> Uh, if we scroll back down to the financial aid part, we just need to correct the header for that where we explain what FAFSA stands for. It's actually free application for federal student aid. Excuse me. [clears throat] See how we've we've spelled it out and then put FAFSAs in parenthesis. So, it's free application for federal student aid. Free application. >> So, it's

026so the first word is free. >> Free application for >> you. It says >> federal student aid. >> Free application for federal student aid. for the first sentence after that >> and then after four federal student aid and you don't have application at the end. So you're good free application for federal student aid. There you go. And then get rid of the application after that. >> Don't give them one thing at a time. >> I am. >> No, you give them two. >> Federal. >> Yeah. And and delete application. That's two. >> I know how you think and I think that way too, but I'm not the one typing. >> All right. I warned Cindy. I was going to do this and I'm still going to do it. Can you scroll up to the 24

027credit diploma for the new one? The 20. Nope. Down. Keep wait. >> Go the other way. >> That's the 20 credit. That's the 20 credit. That's the 24 that you want to talk about right there. >> Yep. Um, now come back down slowly. Keep going. Little more. A little more. I want to see the bottom of it. All right. No, that's the 28, isn't it? >> Perhaps we should put headings above them. >> Yeah, [laughter] >> there are 28. >> Yeah, that says 28. >> There are 28. >> I want the 24 credit. >> Wait, wait. You know what? >> Yep. >> I might have the graduation requirements. sorted. Yeah, he's going too fast for me. I apologize. It should be two 24s, two 28s, and two 20s. >> All right. >> And I need

028the second 24. That one. >> That is the second 24. >> No, don't even mess with the headers yet. Keep going. A little bit more. A little bit more. Stop. That is a six electives. I thought it was seven. Oh, I know why. because there's some embedded credits included in that. All right, I am voting against this and it's because of the electives. The prior what the kids that are in there already have eight electives over four years. That's essentially one per semester. If you are in the music programs, um if you are in some of the art programs, you need that elective every semester. Um, and I realize it's because of state requirements, but we no longer have that. Um, and we promote all of the options that we have in our program of

029studies. We are very proud of our music program in particular, and this really restricts students abilities to participate in it. And and Cindy spent a long time trying to convince me I'm wrong, and I know I'm probably wrong because it is state requirements. But I'm still voting against it. >> Wouldn't that make it a 26 credit? >> There's there isn't you can't electives is the number of classes you can take minus the required number of classes. So that's how many are left over. >> So if you just unilaterally made it two more, the electives aren't counted in the 24 credits. that equals 24 with six only if you add those six. >> That's so what we have are three diplomas >> 20 credit petition a 24 credit which is anything up to 27 credits and

030then a 28 credit advance which is 28 and more. So a student has an opportunity to take eight credits a seme a year for a total of 32 credits. There's nothing that stops a student in music from >> So are there more credits? >> There's plenty there's plenty more spaces in schedule. >> So you can take how did we talk about this for half an hour? >> You know what, George, I was being a very empathetic listener and I understood where you were going and then when I had to address it with the arts and with everything else, I I will have a conversation with guidance. But I think it's important people realize what we're saying. >> Okay. We have diplomas that are threat on set on credit limits. There's nothing that stops somebody from

031getting 25, 26, 27. And if they're smart, they go for 28 and they get the advanced diploma, which is a giant menu. All of that fits within the bell schedule because you can get up to 32 credits. >> So, we have plenty of space there. I wasn't arguing with you about whether they all get scheduled or not because we were also >> That's a whole other problem. Yes. >> But there is plenty of room there. And the student that wants an elective in music every year >> can have it and still be there. Excuse. Yes. Minimum for a diploma. Yeah. Okay. >> So, you could you could get those eight electives. You'd still have you'd have a 26 credit. >> Yeah. >> And we'd be cheering you on to go to the 28 because that

032comes with additional >> rights of >> half an hour and you didn't whack me over the head with a piece of paper. Thank you. >> I'm a good listener. >> I appreciate that. >> Well, so never mind. Is there anything else on this? So you're not voting against it is what you're >> No. Yeah. Thank you. >> Lovely. >> You guys have anything? >> Well, I mean >> Yeah. Well, I mean with that said, should we insert a little, >> you know, either a footnote or something or let it be? >> That's what advisers >> policy, but let us take care of it in the program of studies, >> but school advisors take care of that. >> That's what that's what we do. Yes. School counselors take care of it. We >> It's a big

033overhaul. And what's important is that people hear us talking about it. And once we all understand what's going on, nobody's limited to 24 and you have 32 spots, so you have plenty of room to get those electives in. These are minimums. >> Understood. Yep. >> I appreciate it. >> You guys have anything else? >> Can we have the motion? >> Uh, I'll have a motion to recommend the full board policy I KF as amended. This would be second read. Correct. Weird. >> First read. Yes. For second read. >> Those in favor? >> Any opposed? >> 4 Z with an affirming vote from the principal. >> 300. >> There's only three of us. >> Just so it's in your minutes and the board remembers because a lot going on at the full board meeting. Do you

034want to make a motion about IKF? >> No, we have an emo. We have a motion on the table. Um. >> Yeah. Jen, can you just put a note in the minutes that says that IKFA needs to be rescended? >> Thank you. >> Vote on that pending motion. Okay. >> Yeah, it's we already did the vote here. We just haven't I don't think we've done anything >> at the full board, >> right? >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I just want to make sure it gets, >> but we don't want to motion it again. That'll just somebody will catch us get confused. >> All right. Thank you, Cindy. Are you here for another one? >> I'll sit through the eyes. I'm hoping you're going to get to the school wellness tonight. >> I know. I

035I think we only have >> we'd have to jump ahead to that. >> Where's my agenda gone? >> Where is school wellness? >> It's under first read. Is that new or is that >> It's a problem I'm having at the high school and I brought an amendment to the policy because I can't stop the problem at the high school without an amendment to the policy. >> All right. So, we probably got time for one more. Prioritize me. Do we want to try and do the wellness one or do we want to do one of the other? >> If I'm hearing Cindy right, it sounds like the wellness one is sort of top top of mind. >> I defer. I mean, >> let's open it and see what we can get through in seven minutes. >>

036Okay. Okay. >> So, you've got the schoolboard association recommendation. That's not what I'm looking at. What I'm looking at is our ability to regulate caffeine drinks. And so I proposed an amendment. I don't know if it was dropped in anywhere, Rob. I sent it to you. props >> has 200 milligrams of caffeine in it >> and it's for 18year-old healthy people and I have to amend the wellness policy because the USDA doesn't regulate caffeine it only regulates sugar so I have written a proposal in the wellness policy to um give the principles the autonomy to get these things off of our shelves. >> I think it's in our drive. >> Excuse me. >> I I don't >> for a >> uh Well, I didn't go from the agenda. I went through the drive which has

037proposed. >> Yeah. >> That's my draft. Yes. >> Yeah. I don't need a caffeinated Kool-Aid. Um, >> it was made by Kool-Aid. >> Well, I mean, there's the yellow. >> I will tell you that I did nothing else with this policy besides write a proposal for that section that is in yellow. I I want the 200s gone. The 400s are on our shelves. That's not an unhealthy amount, but that's I that's where we landed when we were looking. You mean 40s, excuse me, 40 milligrams. Um I would like all caffeine drinks. So there's no caffeine drinks sold in any other building but mine >> and we have a plan to follow to set ourselves up to follow the middle school rules that you can only have water. But we've got to go through an educational

038piece that's like the cell phones. We're prepared to tackle it and open up 26 27 with it. Hence, I said that we can set up what students bring into the building separate from what we sell in the building. So, right now, these are in my vending machines and they're in my coolers that kids can just walk into the calf and get it limiting. So, that includes what we sell for fundraisers. So, the school district will not be selling that if you adopt what I'm asking. >> Right. And they would regulate the caffeine milligrams of anything because I guess some of those Gatorade drinks have caffeine in them. They I don't know 200 though, you get what I'm saying, >> right? >> Well, and there's been many many studies now from some of the medical journals.

039It can get pretty dangerous. >> Yeah. >> Both for kids and for adults. >> Like further down. >> Well beyond 18. Yes. Yes. >> Further down. Um you've also included the item or sorry George speak um you know it also excludes bringing on to property. Yes. Go ahead >> Rob. The email that I sent you amended that line. >> I just didn't have the ability to amend the document because I sent it to you as a PDF. So we do have an email that amends that line. I can go resend it so you can find it real quick if you want. So you're suggesting not include that line. >> Well, I I rewrote it. So that's that that's what I'm suggesting in lie of the line. >> No, that's that's you asking the question. I

040answer it. There you go. >> That I I would say that that's that's better. Yeah. >> So, right now we don't have to worry. Mike, Mike Atkins, excuse me, Mike Smith at the middle school can send out his newsletter and say no caffeine drinks because that would be in align alignment with this. And there's a very logical reason. Nobody expects us to sell caffeine drinks at the middle school, right? >> And I get why we would sell them at the high school. It's a nice profit for that after purchasing these drinks. >> Say that again. Oh, that was a private mark. You shouldn't have seen, but yes, >> that is accurate. Yes, >> we did. We've had a couple of health incidents after kids have they buy three of them in the cafeteria, they chug

041it, they go up. I mean, think about the caffeine they've just consumed and then Yeah. >> Sorry, you shouldn't have seen. >> I can easily see this being a challenge, too. Like, who can drink more of these during lunch? >> There's a lot of >> Yeah. >> research now. >> All right. your microphone. >> As soon as you get your driver's license, it's a right of passage. You get to be late going to Starbucks. Yeah. I mean, they're they're coming from places in town. And so, my concern with that line was, "All right, well, how are you going to police that?" And then kids are just going to put their their drinks into the water bottles and that's going to I mean, how are you going to follow through with that? >> And you can't

042I mean, you're dooming yourself >> for failure. And so, you know, I think as long as we're not providing it. >> Y >> I think that that's what the intent is. [cough] >> You could have a suggestion. >> Yeah. Honestly, um eliminating the sales goes a long way to correcting the problem because >> you're bringing it in from home. it's going to be harder to bring in that vast quantity that's going to get one kid over consumed, let alone several kids. Whereas, if you can just grab them in the lunch line and go back and grab another one, then it's an issue. >> So, I've already notified the school store because they started selling Diet Coke because it doesn't have sugar in it either. It's the USDA went after sugar when they wrote the rules.

043I understand what we're talking about here. I don't have the ability to affect federal law, but I certainly want to have a little bit more control over what we're distributing as a district. >> Do you have any concerns about this one, Adam? >> I don't. I mean, I can double check um the, you know, the guide the guide for smart snacks from the um the USDA, but I don't think they're going to drill down and say you must provide caffeinated drinks or you cannot prohibit drinks. I just don't think that was >> no >> a large driver of that of that. >> It was sugar. It was sugar. >> And I think you probably got the discretion to do it >> begin with. Who who stocks those machines? >> Keen food services and some vending

044company. >> You can probably tell them what they can and cannot put in there to some extent, but it's easier if you can rely on a policy. So >> So this would normally get approved at the January. No, >> December, January. >> No, February. Because there's not going to be a policy in December that I'm aware of because it's scheduled for Christmas Eve. [laughter] >> That's correct. This this >> I would believe that if we were know that the board's going to go forward with it that maybe the superintendent could help me out and say, "Let's act in good faith." But I don't know if you can do that or not, but I would like to believe it. I could I I don't feel that this rises to the level of suspending our rules. >>

045I don't either. I I want to acknowledge that >> ask for a will of the board at the December meeting so that you know where the board is going to lean when it does come to them. >> Yeah, I I think we'll be all right if we approve this in January and or February. I don't see it. I think we can navigate that period of time. relative. >> Okay. >> Yeah, >> I I I hear what you're saying. I I personally feel that it should not wait till February. I mean, you can do I just did a quick Google. There's position and documentation and research from NIH, from Harvard Medical School. This is a significant health issue. And I hear and I I I get what you're saying, George, about you know, >> and procedurally

046what we'll do is forward this to the full board for first read. >> When it comes up for first read, >> you should go ahead and make a motion to suspend rules and then give your supporting arguments there, too. >> Yeah. >> And the board may agree with you and pass it sooner and otherwise it'll go through a normal process. >> Yeah. And um would it be appropriate if I find you know some research studies some position statements >> have it distributed via Shaina rather than just emailing people. >> Oh yeah. >> If you're looking for research studies >> Yeah. So go ahead and reach out to Cindy for documents too. >> Yeah. All right. Um that is uh literally all the time that I have and in fact three minutes more than I had.

047Um Thank you. I appreciate it you guys. >> And I apologize to you guys. Um, normally I can navigate these overlapping meetings, but this month just did not work that way. >> It's okay. Understood. >> So, thank everybody for coming in for an abbreviated and early meeting. And I'm glad we got through the ones that we did because those are, as far as I'm aware, the vital ones. Um, at this time, we are not planning for a December meeting unless it ends up being a specially scheduled one.Uh, Uh Rob, you and I will have to confer and figure out if we need one, but we're definitely not meeting on Christmas Eve. All right. Uh we're adjourned at 5:49.

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