School Board Meeting - 05/20/2026

001All right. Good evening everyone and welcome to the May 20th, 2026 Lichfield School Board meeting. It's now 5:30. We're going to call the meeting to order and begin with the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> All right. Uh we do have three members of the board. Mr. Plansky will not be able to attend tonight and I believe Mr. Shoemaker is running just a few moments late, but he will be here shortly. Uh we have review and revision to tonight's agenda. Any changes this evening? >> Nope. Hearing and seeing none. Uh moving over to consent. Anything off consent that the board would like to speak to

002tonight? >> Okay. We'll move forward with summary of non-public actions from May 5th, 2026. Mr. Mr. Shoemaker moved to approve the April 15th public meeting minutes. Mr. Plansy second of that motion. That carried 301. Mr. Shoemaker moved to approve the nomination of Cassandra Sulcen as the LMS science teacher. Mr. Plansy second of that motion. That passed 40. Mr. Shoemaker moved to approve the nomination of Jodie Corbett as the LMS computer science teacher. Mr. Plansy second of that motion. That passed 40. Mr. Mr. Shoemaker move to approve the nomination of Rebecc Rebecca Jan want to help me out Janu I don't know >> Rebecca Miss Jay >> Miss Jay as the CHS social studies teacher Mr. Plansky second of the motion which passed 40 Mr. Dit moved the to approve Dave Ross' resignation as facilities director

003Mr. Shoemaker second of the motion that that also passed 40 Mr. Mr. Shoemaker moved to approve Lillian Law's resignation as a GMS special education teacher. Mr. Plansy seconded that motion. That carried 40. Mr. Cutter moved to approve the retirement of Shawn Mcdana as a CHS computer science teacher. Mr. Shoemaker seconded that motion. That passed 40. Mr. Shoemaker moved to approve course reimbursement. Mr. Plansy seconded that motion. That carried 40. We have presentations and recognitions this evening. We have the honor to have student council from GMS with us. And with that, I will welcome up Mr. Mitchell and Miss Perkins. >> Excellent. >> So, to start off um even before student council, I want to um bring the board uh make aware a new tradition that we've started. So, on Friday, um we welcomed in um

004our newest kindergarteners um who will be coming to us next year as part of a kindergarten orientation. And um with that, we brought a tradition that was Mrs. Perkins from a previous school. So you will now see um hopefully once we get them all out um 67 plus uh incoming kindergarters who will now be dawning and then each year we'll repeat it. So they now have um class of 2039 operants. >> There you go. >> They fit them not quite well now, but we're anxious to see um how well they grow into them and how many are still left when they actually walk across the stage in 13 years. Did you say 67 intentionally? >> You had to bring it right back. I just Yeah, >> that's the number. Um, so I wanted to bring

005you that. So hopefully each year we'll have a new crop of red t-shirts uh floating around town. But uh today, as we've become a tradition, um we like to invite our student council members to kind of give you a a state of the state address or end of the year address. Um so today I have Mrs. Hayes and Mrs. Parkkins who are going to bring up um let me see we have Aaliyah Patrick and Liam. >> Oh sorry Maya. Oops. Sorry. >> Hello and welcome everyone. >> Hello >> for having us introduce yourself. >> Hi I'm Pat Green and I'm a member of the student council. I'm Maya Coulter and I'm a member of the student council. >> Welcome. >> I'm Ali Luke and I'm a student council member from >> Thank you for coming

006tonight. >> One of our first projects this year was to participate in the annual make a difference food drive. The GMS student council created posters to promote the food drive and hung them up around the school. Each day, the student council members collected items from each of the classrooms. This was quite the task because our fourth grade classrooms like to become very competitive. We also had to count and organize the items for pickup. What a great way to support our community. >> How many items did GM >> go ahead and >> How many items did GMS collect during the Thanksgiving food drive? >> So, we had a cahoot game, but we couldn't get connected. So, we'll take guesses. >> Yes. Okay. So, how many items do you think GMS collected during our food drive this

007year? >> Trying to remember the announcements that came out during that >> 1,1005. >> Good guess. >> Yeah, >> I I was going to say I was saying 1,00 plus >> range. Yeah, >> we actually collected over 2400. >> Wow, >> that's awesome. >> This was a GMS record and three times more than we collected last year. >> That's wonderful. The GMS student council also helped out with the annual kindness week. The GMS student council created a video showing acts of kindness and interviewing teachers on what kindness means to them. We also acted as morning greeters to get every everyone's day started with a small act of kindness and made morning announcements that gave kindness challenges to students each day. Each day we also voted on themes for each day to get the kids excited

008to be kind. Question. Which of the following was not a theme during the kindest month? >> And so the choices were um Howdy versus Handshakes, country western versus country club. >> Yep. >> Pajama day. Dream of a kind world. And the last choice was um kindness all year long. Dress in your favorite holiday, which was not a thing. >> Howdy versus handshakes. Is he right? >> No, that was a big hit. >> Okay, I remember that at the high school, but I don't remember that at >> pajama day. >> No, >> that's a given. >> It's always happening. >> It was holidays all year long. >> Okay, >> then one of our special stu projects the student council has sponsored this year was the movie matinea. The movie Matt and I raised money for a

009recess project reminding students about expectations and strategies to solve conflicts. We showed the Lilo and Stitch movie after school to all students who purchased a ticket. Snacks and water were served to enjoy during the movie. Student council members were not only busy advertising for this wonderful event, but also helped with setting up the gym before the movie, scooping popcorn, serving water, and monitoring bathroom breaks, which were a lot. Not only Not only was it an entertaining movie, but a fun way to raise money for our recess project. How much money did the student council raise during their movie matinea event? O, >> go ahead. >> I'm going to go with $375. >> Good guess. Little >> I was going to guess 400. >> I was going to say just to one up Mr. O'Connell 405,

010right? >> Yeah. Is that the prices right where I can guess a dollar? >> 25. Tell them >> how much. >> Um the we actually raised $645. >> Wow. Sensational. That's fantastic. >> Good for you. >> And then we have one final question for you guys. How many GMS student council members do you think are um participating this year? So we have four fourth grade classrooms currently. How many representatives do you think are part of student council? >> 10. Guess 12. >> Going to say eight. >> I was getting each. I was going to go with six. >> I'm gonna go with all of them. All the student council members are participating. >> So, we have 16. >> Four from four from each class. Yeah. It's the most that we've ever had. >> Great. >>

011Nice. >> Excellent. That's fantastic. That's awesome. What are you looking forward to about moving up to middle school? >> I'm going to ask you guys a question now, too. >> Probably switching classes. >> Switching classes. >> Um, like more homework. I think >> you're looking forward. >> Okay. >> Oh, nice. >> All right. >> Um, probably the therapy dog. I really want to see. >> All right. That's great. Fantastic. >> Awesome. Well, we wish you the best and have a great summer vacation coming up. Okay. >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you for your service. >> Well done. Thank you. >> Great job. All right. Does that uh wrap it for GMS this evening? >> That's it. >> Yeah. Fantastic. >> All right. >> Thank you again everyone. Have a great evening. >> Thank

012you. >> All right. We have our student representative report tonight. Uh and we'll welcome Danny to the table. Hey Danny. >> Thank you. Hi. Can >> you talk that? >> I don't think I can. I'm sure Danny's looking forward to wrapping up the year as well. >> Definitely. >> Yes. >> I think we have like nine, no, six more days. >> Crazy. >> We're seniors. I'm so excited. >> Um, right now girls lacrosse currently stands 3 to 5 and their next game is right now at Hopington. Um, and then boys lacrosse is 5 to 6. They play also today um at home versus Cob Brown. And then softball is 4 to7 and their game is today and they are vers. And then baseball is 8 to2 and they were heading up to Manadnok today. Um

013and then track has had eight meet so far and they're doing really well. Um, some of the past events we've had at Campbell was the National Honor Society bingo night. And then over April break was the Spain trip. And then on May 5th, we had all like spring athletic photos. And then on May 6th, we had the driving towards zero presentation during our CAG. And then on May 5th through the 14th, we had AP testing going on in the library. And then on May 8th, we had the junior and senior prom. Um, some of the current things we have going on is the book drive. We also have the clothing drive. We have that on the 16th. And then coming up tomorrow, we have senior project evaluations. And then on the 26th in the morning,

014we have 8th grade stepup day. And then on the 29th, we have our springfest day with our awards ceremony that'll go on that day too for all the underassmen. And then on June 5th, we have graduation. And then at the middle school today, they just finished up their NHSAS testing. Um the preliminary information showed some nice improvements and students were interest invested and interested in celebrating their own personal growth. Um Mrs. Grantham and Mr. Peterson are bracing to be covered in silly string. Some field trips they've gone on. Eighth grade went to Boston. Seventh grade went to the Stone Zoo. Fifth grade went to Hidden Creek and learned about soils, technology and tools, equipment, and they use math on the golf course. Sixth grade is going to be heading to Dreamers Farm to learn about

015sustainable farming practices and then sustainability and they did water testing at nursing keg and new students will be presenting their capstone projects the morning of June 10th. Also there uh at the Mitchell Middle School they have I Ready testing. They also have some of the eighth grade events which is going to be happening at CHS's stepup day. They're also having the grad dance on May 29th. And then on June 11th is their pro promotion ceremony to become freshmen. And then the sixth graders have June 2nd the entrepreneur day. And then they also have step-up day for the fourth graders on June 4th. And then they're going to have a field day on the 5th. And then their last day of school is a early release day on the 12th. And then over at Griffin Memorial

016on Thursday the 14th, they wrapped up another successful year of the Tiger Tribe with buddies and mentors coming together for an ice cream celebration. Um they also had the chorus at their spring concert. And then on Friday the 15th, they welcome the class of 2039. Um, and then tomorrow they will have the PTO color run. Um, they will see if Mr. Mitchell will become a human Sunday. Students are encouraged to wear their brightest colors to school that day to get in the spirit. Um, NHSAS are wrapping up and time will tell if Mr. Mitcher has to be a ballerina on the roof. And then on Friday the 29th, our boys are invited to a night of fun and games at the Starlate Social. That's all I have. >> Lots going on. Yes, very busy >>

017weeks of our school school year. >> I'm really hoping for the ballerina on the roof. >> I've got a 200 mm lens. It's going to look great. >> It's pretty close. >> That was a human Sunday. >> Yeah, I was curious about that myself. >> We're going to find out. >> Okay. All right. >> Yeah, we're find we're finding out. >> We're finding out together. >> Team work. >> It involves kitty pools, though, cuz I secured those. >> Kitty pools. Okay. >> Like, are you going to have ice cream on you? Like, what is this? I think it's more the sauce and the sprinkles and the whipped cream. >> I've been seeing this coming and I've been very curious on how this is. >> Yeah, I don't know how to dress. I don't know how

018to prepare. I'm going to drive home afterwards shower facilities at GMS if you're not aware. >> There's a host. >> Just turn on the irrigation. Stand in front of one of the sprinklers. >> I don't think they have. >> You have six days left. That's crazy to think about. I That's like classes, not counting springfest, but like springfest would be seven. >> Yep. >> We had our last Monday this week. >> That's crazy. >> I know. I'm so excited. >> Heard there was like a senior skip day >> yesterday. It might have been. It was very nice weather though, so it was pretty good. >> It was a good day to do that if you do those type of things. Correct. >> We were all sick. >> Are you >> I heard that was the

019case. >> Are you presenting tomorrow night? >> Yes, I am. >> What can you give us a sneak peek of your project? So mine I ran the Instagram and Tik Tok for the school. So I made like Vlogmas and I like went around and recorded um during the month of December like before and I just like created like a bunch of videos and then I also created like advertisements for like different clubs and like organizations at school and I just like posted everything on social media. >> That's great. >> Thank you. >> You have good interest and feedback on it too as well online? >> Yeah. Yeah. I like there's like we don't get as many comments, but like we've had a couple videos that have gotten like like I posted one on Tik Tok

020where it was like advice to like your freshman self and it was like a picture of us now and then a picture of us like freshman year and that one got like a couple hundred likes. >> Yeah, that's cool. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Well, uh that concludes the student report. Any questions? All right, we have community comment on agenda items. This is our first of two community comments this evening. Seeing nobody in the community here tonight, we'll close that one. Uh we have correspondence this evening. Um Mr. Plansky is not here. So I'll read the summary. On May 8th, we have Renee Burgess uh that circulated uh the May 6 meeting minutes. On May 14th, we have an enamor circulated manifest. Also on May 14th, another manifest came through from an Anamarati. May 15th,

021uh, Superintendent Oonnell circulated legislative documents. May 15th, uh, Renee Burgess circulated tonight's agenda. May 16th, Miss Mai circulated, um, uh, communication to the board, praising Miss Grantham, uh, and Miss Master on the subject presentation for level two students for the, uh, for the new class in May 19th. And in Marat sent a couple of AP manifests as well. All right. Well, shifting gears into general business. Uh, tonight we have a legislative update. Mr. Peoples is going to put on his uh his legislative hat tonight. So, um, I got a report from I don't know if I'm going to change my name. Um, I had I had a report generated up at the state for all the bills that were related to education, education funding. U, you guys should have got a copy of it. Brian

022was kind enough to scan it in and send it to you. Um, so if you go through that report, you can see the the status of of every bill we had up there except for the last week or so. >> Hopefully that helps um clear up what what passed, what didn't, and what went to the trash barrel. >> It was very helpful for me. Yes. >> Yeah, >> it was good. Appreciate that. Thank you. in terms of what is top of mind for you over kind of what's coming up. >> Uh, open enrollment is still a thing. It's not it's not dead and I don't think it's going away anytime soon. Um, how they do it or how the the legislature proposes to do it is still up for debate. Um, we'll have to see.

023Tomorrow we have a legislative session. I haven't looked at the calendar yet. Uh there may or may not be something on there for open enrollment. Okay. There's a lot of stuff that's coming in as non-gerine amendments. So non-gerermanine amendment, they take a bill, it might be uh bill to rename this street and then put in a full-fledged to replace all amendment into it to do something like open enrollment. So even if there isn't a bill that was for open enrollment, they have a way of of doing a particular topic like that works sometimes, sometimes don't. It depends. And it's also a good tool if we needed something done that was really critical to our to our operations that we might be able to do a non-Germanine amendment to get something passed rather than waiting for

024September putting a bill in September, waiting until January, having it come, you know, go through committee and stuff like that. Sometimes for more emergency related items, you can use that process to to stuff something through. So, >> yeah, just had one quick question. Um, I had a community member reach out asking if there's any updated legislation related to EFAS. I hadn't heard anything, so I just wanted to ask you real quick. >> No, not that I know of. >> Do you know of anything in the works? >> Uh, well, there's been several there's been several attempts to do away with it. No, but nothing in terms of anything else because um there was technical advisory last November around EFAs and how and uh connected to public schools and co-curriculars and academics and stuff and then

025someone asked if there's changes from that and I hadn't heard anything. So >> there hasn't been anything that passed through education funding. >> Yeah. So we're on the same >> or policy and administration as far as I know. >> Excellent. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. We'll turn it over to Superintendent Okonnell for his report this evening. >> Yeah. So, I want to kind of talk about I know Julie's not here, Miss Darling. She's at um uh business administrator conference. Um and uh but we do want to start talking about end of year expenditures. Um I know we've had this on the agenda a few different times, but start we don't decide everything tonight because obviously we're not the end of the year, but really hone in on what our priorities

026are um in terms of end of the year. So, we make sure we have quotes for everything. Um, I think there's some things I want to take, not take off this list, but um, stress a little less because there's other ways we can kind of attack it and just kind of have that discussion on the board. Uh, with the board, excuse me. Um, up here, I just blew up the spreadsheet, but you should all have the links before we get going. Is the board okay if Danny enjoys the rest of her evening? >> Oh, yeah. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Thanks, Danny. >> Good luck to >> Thank you so much. I probably will not see you guys again. Hopefully. >> I'll see you soon. >> See you at graduation. >> We're going to

027see you graduation. >> Not here though. >> See you. >> Yeah, she just fell in tonight and she knew the the deal from last year. She's a good kid. Great kid. So, um yeah, but she's not going to be addressing this. So, um, so just kind of go through, uh, this list. We can bounce around a little bit and kind of strategize. Um, again, the you guys have access to the the spreadsheet. We've been trying to keep it updated for for everyone so you can see in real time how we're um trying to get quotes and finalize different things kind of going on. So, um I guess I'll start with a general conversation and that's about the LMS parking lot, which I think we're all kind of in agreement is still our number one. As

028long as financially we can do it, it's still our number one priority. To update the board on that progress, we received um plans yesterday from Allen and Major um connected to that. That's been um sent over to Continental for pricing um for those plans. So that process is moving ahead of the initial timeline that they had given us in terms of that. So we're making good progress on that. Um ideally we'll have numbers by our next board meeting which is June 10th. I think actually moving that a week helps that process a little bit. Um so we can kind of zone in. Again the number we've been utilizing kind of in our office offices is about a half million dollars for that project as an estimate just as a placeholder in our mind as we've

029looked at numbers for different things. So, we'll see what the final number kind of comes out with. That in my mind would include um the parking lot itself and the necessary work to make that safe and accessible and good and up to speed with everything that it is. Taking care of the sinkhole problems that we had, the underlying pipe issue that is what's leading to the to the vast majority of the sink holes. Um raising it up to the appropriate level because doing that work requires us to add additional handicap spacing. Um and then paving around LMS. Um when we do that work as well, the bus bus, excuse me, not the bus loop, the drop off >> drop off pickup line. >> The town's also doing that road. Um their plan is to do

030that road this summer. So the idea is to coordinate that entire space at the same time. Yeah. Through Continental. So >> could save us some some money and mobilization for Continental if they if they've got both contracts >> possibly. Yep. So that is where I want to start. Is the board still on board, no pun intended, on board with that? >> Yes. I mean I rated it priority one. Looks like Mr. Peoples did and Mr. Dit did. I don't know Mr. Prior. Yeah. >> Priority. Sure. >> And FIC also rated it as one. >> So it is the priority. We've had a lot of critical failures within that parking lot that need to be addressed. It it has been confirmed by Allan and Major that the sink holes are a result of underground piping that

031has completely failed. >> Yep. >> Uh that does need to be replaced. That piping is about 20 feet underground. Uh 20 or so feet underground. Uh and that is that is the issue. >> Is that deep? >> Yep. >> Is that report out? >> Is that scanned somewhere? >> Yes, >> I can uh Yes. pages. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I can share it with the board right now. Uh, actually my email is I'll just pull that out real quick. I will share momentarily with the board. >> No, that that's fine. I I can read it later. It would just be interesting to read. >> It's just >> it's a summary of the plan. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But yes, that that will be the main priority pending the financials align to where we're going to

032land for end of year. >> Yeah. So, we have been well, we knew this was a problem back in what was it late March, early April when this kind of happened. So, we have been very conscious of our spending with that half million dollar number in mind. Um, >> not saying that we froze hard the budget, but we definitely paused some not absolutes to ensure that we could kind of acquire some additional money to it to make sure that we can get this project done. in additioning the funding the warrants that were approved by the voters back in March. So, and that might not lead a lot of extra money. So, that's why I think going through this so we can kind of talk about what our priorities are and then how we can pivot

033how some of these items are kind of grouped together. >> So, I think before we start that discussion, >> I think the other priority that we need to talk about is the 200 well is food deficit, right? We have we have an obligation to fund the food deficit budget of I'm going to say approximately $100,000, >> right? And we also have um the the budgeted item of tax return to the town or to offset tax >> $200,000 >> which we budget for $200,000. Right. So I'd like to start that conversation there >> on where the board feels um we should land for offsetting tax rate. This is a this is a tough one. We have so many things that are coming up in the critical needs list plus you know to try to meet our

034obligations that way as well. >> It's going to be a tight >> while we try and keep tax rate as consistent as possible. I mean, if you >> pay attention to the news, which I'm sure all of you do, like other it's all over the place that other districts are having like critical critical issues with budgeting um to the to the point of closing schools, uh drastic staff reductions, and um one of the things that stuck out to me was foregoing maintenance and foregoing um you know, repairs and and any sort of projects. Um, and I mean I I feel like our administration has done a really good job to try to keep us out of th those critical areas, but we're we're dangerously close. And some of these things that we're dealing with, particularly

035repairs-wise, are concerning because it, you know, things start to go sideways with those, we could be in a really bad place without any sort of reprieve as some of these other districts are seeing. If it wasn't for doing the parking lot, we could knock off a lot of these critical items with no problem at all and and and >> be meeting our obligations to the town to maintaining the infrastructure that we own. >> I mean, so I I guess my perspective, and I kind of laid it out in the response to the email that I sent, is we created a plan. We should be trying to stick to that plan as much as possible, not trying to left shift early just because we have the extra money. um and that type of stuff, right? So

036that that's part of the things, but to your point, we have some critical items that need to be replaced, but there's also other things that we can take and say, okay, it says to redo the stair floors, right? Do they truly need to be done? And and that's some of the stuff and discussions that we can look at and do. >> Well, I think before we get to those, I think talking about what you want to return to taxpayer is a good place to start. We budgeted $200,000, right? If you're asking me as superintendent, we should return at least $200,000. Like, we made that commitment in the budgeting process. We presented Warren articles in March about um what the tax increase was going to be. Granted, it's an estimate. There's a lot of factors that

037go into that that doesn't make it accurate. We talk about $200,000 as that number. Our goal from our offices is to get that to be the consistent number that we're returning back to the taxpayers so they can count on that. That helps us control budgeting, right? It helps us give us a number to work towards. I want as soon as we can start getting that number back in people's hands. I think that's important. If you're returning less now, if there's I think the conversation, and I don't think we're going to be in this place, but we still have a month and a half left, but looking at where we are, >> is if that parking lot comes closer to that $700,000 range and like does that need override anything else? Right. like and I think

038there's that discussion, right? >> Or is the 500,000 is that need so significant, right, that we are willing as a board to make the decision that we don't want to uh raise and appropriate additional taxes and use the funds that we have to tackle that project. >> That's what I mean, right? Like that's that's like I agree with that sentiment. Like that's the discussion you're going to have to have, right? like we could have it in hand right now, which means we're not putting in a future budget. We're not putting in a future warrant article. We're not, and I think this is very important for long-term fiscal health for the district. We're not upsetting the reserve funds that we have set up for other projects, right? Like I'm going to we're going to hear this

039critique. It's a fair one to bring up and it's a fair question to bring up. Why aren't you using the reserve fund dedicated to to maintenance and repairs for the parking lot? based upon the last warrant that we passed, we had we now have over $600,000 in that account because we veermarked that for the roof at Campbell. Right? That is the goal of that fund. Right? >> That's the plan and sticking to the plan. >> If you pull from that, pull from that, pull from that, and you never save up enough for that roof, and that roof collapses, it's not a $2.5 million project anymore. It is a four or$5 million, right? You lose the value of the work that you did making that money pushed aside. want to stick to that plan. >> We

040want to stick to the plans we have place that I think it's important. I think we so as much as sticking to plans as we can do, I think the better long-term health for the district, right? We are facing like and I don't want to get too over our skis here for budgeting next year, but we're going to be down like 350 $400,000 in revenue off the jump next year, right? Because the hold harmless grant is a bianual reduction, right? So, like in our minds budgetarily, we already need to make up $400,000. Like, we got to be careful by pushing stuff into next year's budget and stuff. >> But from the board's perspective, if we we can get this done and entertain and keep our promises, it helps with the board's credibility. I think >>

041I I I think so. I think LMS is number one. Returning our taxpayers in my mind's number two. >> Food service is number one. Well, food service food service has to >> so food service LMS return to the taxpayers, right? If that is doable >> above and beyond all of our other warrant articles and everything else that come after that or right warrant articles come before all of that anyway. >> So 100,000 for food service. >> No, when we encumber money that's whatever is left is what goes toward warrant articles, >> right? So, but is it encumbrances first or is it warrant articles first? >> It's encumbrances, >> right? >> Okay. >> You would encumber for that parking lot first, right? Right. >> And the warrant articles are written with language that if you can't

042fulfill it, >> then it come Okay. So, warrant articles come last. >> But that being said, it's the will of the board, right, on where the warrant articles fall >> compared to incumbrances. >> Correct. >> Right. My perspective is, you know, we have a significant project on the horizon for the elementary school, which we're also trying to continue to put away funds for, right? Uh again, we asked the taxpayers, the taxpayers graciously approved funds to be set aside for the roof. We should honor that and put the funds in the account for the roof, right? So things like that we should we should do, right? >> Well, I think that one was raised by taxes, right? The building maintenance was raised by taxes and and it was the capital expendable was >> but we but

043even so to echo your point you're right it was raised by taxes but to echo your point we sold that warrant that we're raising this money for the roof. >> Well no and and right again that kind of goes back to the statement I made right we created a plan we earmarked how we're going to pay for that big thing. We should be sticking to that plan. >> Yeah. My my my main point is right if you take all of this into consideration, you know, you're easily at a million dollars, >> right? >> We're not going to have if the board if the board's going to prioritize those funding warrant articles, return to the taxpayer, the deficit, and potentially a parking lot, all of this really becomes null and void. Right. Well, that that's that's

044sort of where I've been at with this is like I don't I don't disagree, >> but I'm still going to pitch you on a few small things like >> No, I >> Yeah, >> I mean, and as you can see the comments that I put in there, right, is >> So, I think one of, you know, interestingly, the section I actually want to focus on on this list is this kind of like chunked section. It's got a big blue line, I think, on it on the document there. And why I'm drawing here because this is the stuff in that big 20-year CIP plan that we had earmarked as possibly being done with end of the year expenditures. This was pre parking lot. In that big plan, we had parking lot in 2027, right? But the

045the needs of that parking lot have pushed it up. So I want to talk through the process here on some of these things. Right? Now, this is the first time we've tried this with this plan, right? So there's a learning curve to all of us here. A lot of the things here are here because of age and not necessarily because they're not working but they've reached the life end of life expectancy is approaching for them right means they might still be working but they're not all the way there. >> I think a good one to talk about is the septic pump pump replacements right because this is a hard thing to visualize. We don't see it every single day but you certainly know if they break right like so you do not want to be

046in a situation >> where they break. They are reaching their kind of end of life expectancy. We have no problems with them right now. Right. We're gonna have um >> But you don't want >> You don't want problems. >> We're going to have the septic uh doing their yearly pump, Ham Septic, come in in July to do the septic pumps for the buildings, right? And they're going to inspect the pumps at that time to tell us the condition of them and expected longevity for them. So, while we have this listed here, I would propose we don't do this right now because we have a plan to pay attention to it, right? Like, it's going to be done in July. It's going to be reviewed in July based upon their records. We've had conversations with them

047when we were booking them coming in. They say, "You should be okay, but we will again check while we're down there because you were okay last time we were down there." >> How how old is the septic system? Do you know? >> Um, the pumps vary. Some have been replaced. Not I'm not talking about the pumps themselves. I'm saying the system. >> It's original to the building. >> Oh yeah, it's original. >> So years 30 40 years. So okay. >> And that one was probably built back when they they built them >> really good. >> Yeah. But I mean they still even when they built them really good, they still say >> well I mean that there's these days they use things like Envirroeptic and all those kind of things. Those are progressive failing systems.

048when they were putting in systems like that, that's probably a rock system, right? Uh with a a huge leech field. Yeah. >> And we don't do laundry, >> right? There's a couple of leechfield killers and one of them is laundry. >> Yeah. >> So So my recommendation on some of these items would be like we discuss it, we make the decision to shift it or kind of still focus on it. >> Why wouldn't we budget for it? >> We could, right? And maybe that's our discussion right now. like we're going to not use end of the year funds right now for the septic pump or thing. We're going to talk to Ham in July, right? They're going to tell us you really should replace one, right? Like hypothetically, they could say that it's great. >>

049Then in the budget season in the fall, we can insert this into the budget, right? And now we have justification. We initially looked at end of the year. It was still in working condition, so we didn't need to spend the money at the time. We've now had the professional come in and give us this recommendation. Maybe the recommendation is two years from now. Then we can budget in the FY28 budget. Right? This is how the plan should start to work. >> Correct? >> Drawing our attention to these, we talk about them and then make moves. >> To me, this is like these items on CIP are >> operations maintenance that should be part of our budget. >> Now, remember there is a whole lot of I don't disagree, but within that document, there are tons

050of things that we have put in our budget, right? These are like the I won't say the least important but the least timely that we didn't put in the budget because we didn't want to overreach on that budget for next year. >> Got it. Right. And if you do have a catastrophic failure in any of these areas, we do have a building and reserve funds >> for these I'll call it ancillary costs. >> So and and that's kind of where I was going with my email. Right. So there there was some of this of where it's just, you know, the the septic pump replacements cuz I absolutely agree with you. It's in here cuz it's listed as a CIP, right? It's I I can't get stuff past if it's just well, it's on the plan

051>> type thing, right? There's got to be a justification as to why I need to go replace a thermal chamber or something like that. Like it broke, it's not working or it's not supported. So, that's where I think, and I'm glad to hear it because you're answering all of my questions I had in my email about they need to be discussed. They need to be looked at, and we need to evaluate them. This isn't an automatic. We're going to put funds towards it. >> Right. And I think that's the work we're doing. We're in such a better place this year than last year about these discussions. >> At least I feel like I'm in a better place. I'll just speak for myself because we're providing this information to the board and we have options as

052we see things play out over the next next month and a half, couple months, right? >> So maybe they don't even need to be replaced. They could often pumps like that the only thing that ever goes bad on them is the motors. You could pull pull the motors out and have predictive maintenance done on them, right? Bearings and windings. >> Well, and and that money >> and so that's kind of the comment that I have in here, right? Are they showing age? Is there anything wrong with them? Have we had them inspected? Can Can it be maintenanced? >> Yeah. And that's why we set that up. They're coming in July and not just the pumping, but they're going to go in for us. Yeah. >> And look at the pumps. Yep. Um and check them

053all out. So, I just want to give that as an example of us. We are following our plan, right? And now we're making decisions based upon the overarching needs. And some of this stuff might get shifted. Like the shop uh the blower and dust collection, the wood shop, it's fine. Like we had this in here as a reference. We went and checked it and everything and looked at it, make sure it was all in working condition. It's good. We We can literally delete it. Well, I want to delete it off the bigger plan, right? We don't need to expend that that thing right now. >> Some of these things are general like, hey, like there's allowances because again, to refresh people's memories, we're doing it off of the on-site insight report. And some of these

054are allowances that you should be checking your doors yearly to make sure that there's no anticipating there'll be repairs to doors yearly, right? M we have a repair we need to one of the doors, right? Like there's a door um over by the gym by the boys locker room that needs a repair, right? Like we're just going to repair that. So that kind of takes the place of the end of the year expenditure. Uh we're not going to replace it. Sorry, we're going to repair that door, right? That takes the replace of this designated end of the year expenditure because we have the door we're fixing. Yeah. >> Well, and and again, right, goes back to the comments of Doors. Athletics doesn't tell me anything. What's wrong with them? Are they broken? Are they off

055their hinges? Is it the automatic the soft closer that needs to be rebuilt? >> I was just going to say I was Andrew and I were having that conversation right before the meeting. Doors were one of them where we could Does it need hinges? Does it need a panic bar? >> Now, some of this is like it's I didn't we didn't write the notes because they're in on-site insight reports with all the detail. good questions, don't get me wrong, but we do have answers for a bunch of stuff. >> Yeah. >> The other two things just about that that I want to draw your attention to. One, there's certainly going to be things that we need to group together, right? Like not saying we're committing to do the auditorium right at the second, but I'm

056going to use the auditorium as an example. If we're going to paint in the auditorium, we should look at painting and carpets at the same time, right? Because like if you're going to like do that work, right, paint first and then tear up the back carpet and just do it in one big swoop and stuff like that would be my recommendation if we were going to tackle that type of item. And the last thing what is interesting as we're going through this process and I think we just have to remember for for the future is what we're seeing. This plan was done by talented professionals at on-site insight. This is not a dig at them, right? Mhm. >> But now that we're here in the moment, because life unfolds differently, quotes can vary different than

057what's in the what's in the plan, right? Some quotes are coming in much higher than what was put in the on-site insight report now that we're getting the actual quote for the work. Some are coming in much lower, right? And some are coming about at the where they they are. So I as we go through this plan and allows it to guide our work in terms of facility and financial stuff over the years. I'm just want to make people aware like they are the best guesses at the time that report was done. We go out and we get actual quotes. They can vary. It's not >> it's not that's not a bad thing. Just like when the moment comes things can change and so costs are going to be different and stuff. So is there

058with that discussion is there not in just this sheet but in the overall plan to update the cost in the plan as you know them. >> Well I think that we haven't yet but that's where I'm leaning. Okay. >> Right. Like as we get a quote for something going into that plan making a note like this was the original cost this is now the new cost. Like I mean we'll have to update it as we check things off of that report, right? Like we completed this in this year using this funding source, right? So we can have those notes for us as we go through. So I say all that where we maybe this is a quick conversation because we've ticketed the big ticket items that we're we're looking at and then um and then

059that's that. >> I mean you have let's talk about replacement of fire of kitchen fire drop curtain, right? Because out of all of the items here, >> right? At least for for me, I would say that's a that's a higher priority item when I hear the word kitchen fire, right? To me, that does lend itself to to a safety issue. >> so >> if I'm prioritizing something out of this entire list, that would be one one of the items that stands out. >> Yeah. So, and this was discussed at FIC and there was a couple of good comments that came up that I kind of noted here is >> the note with it is that it's stuck in position. >> Not that it's not operating or well it's not operating not >> everything in the

060kitchen >> and everything. So, the question that the FIC had was can it be repaired? Can it be unstuck? Can it be maintenance? >> I didn't look at that today. I did go to LMS and look at those items, but I didn't go do the the curtain because um originally it was at C. It was supposed to be at Campbell was what it was listed for originally. And when I heard it was at Griffin, I said, "Well, I would let that go because we're on the the verge of doing a major renovation project there. That's that would be the plan." And this has not been operational for a very long time from what I understand. So, and I guess >> but the kitchen is not part of our renovation plan. >> That's true. >> It

061will be if >> I thought there was some kitchen items for um >> that part of the building is not part of our renovation. >> I thought there was some replacement steam kettles and stuff like that. >> I'm Yeah, some of the equipment that that was on the list of things to be replaced, I thought. >> So, anyway, >> anyway. >> Right. >> No. So, and but this is where I agree with you of if it's truly needs to be replaced. I guess my view on this one is whether it's a repair or a replacement, it needs to become operational. >> True. We agree with that. >> And and that that's kind of where I'm at is now is a full replacement required or can it be unstuck? >> I don't know anything about these

062things. So, >> had I went and looked at it today, I would had that answer for you. I'm sorry. >> Explain what it looks like. So it's >> yeah the metal thing roll >> it looks like a a big garage door like if you walk around the mall but it's closed the way they close the stores it's that it's kind of stuck in >> I think that >> three quarters position >> I think one of the concerns with repairing I think obviously a repairment the metal itself is fine right so if we can repair it that is the ideal I think one of the overarching concerns with it which has to be part of the repair is it's literally a hand crank right now and not a pole slide so if we did really have

063an emergency. You're Exactly. You're asking someone to go >> probably better to just put like 10 fire extinguishers in there. >> Well, they're hand crank up because they're fusible links and if the fuse link breaks that baults, that door closes. >> That's the whole idea. >> I didn't know that. Yeah, I know the ones in the high school which are smaller because the way it is, they are just quick pull ups and down. So, >> um so you know that was a quote we got months ago at this point. So, we can have someone come in here and look at it more closely. But if that's like that next tier priority, again, we don't have to have a >> Can I come visit you on Friday? >> Yeah. >> But then and if that's her,

064we want to prioritize like the safety related issues here beyond the next tier. Like I think that's a good place to go. I would say the next thing is talking about we're throwing out suggestions would be the AEDs. >> That's what I was going to say. >> AEDs. Um, I've done some more research because someone board fi I don't remember asked me to look some more into them and figure out some more information. So, uh, there right now is two at each building plus an additional one that we use for athletics that's mobile trainer. >> I took a picture. >> Are they green? No, >> but we >> Well, that sounds funny, but >> No, but to tie to your state purchasing thing, what we want to purchase, the nurse that want to purchase is

065through the state purchasing >> group. As life would have it, on Monday, I photographed the CEO of uh Zola Manufacturing, the global leader for AADs, ventilators, and stuff like that, and I toured their facility last week. Um, they have a a refurbishing program where it looks, you know, is it? It's called Lifeline. >> Lifeline. Yeah. No, it's too bad. >> What's the age of you? >> Um, so they're about 15 years old. So, they're going to expire in March. These are 15 years old >> up to. We don't have an exact date, but we think 2012 is when they they're 14 years, excuse me, cuz they were purchased in 2022, >> and the expiration date on them is March of 2027, right? So that will be it will be 15 years old in March of

0662027. You can use it, right? Like if we had an it's not like you throw it away once you hit that expiration date. what you lose is like just like they have like an end like they stop things just get old and they're like saying it's just not reliable past that point. So with that date kind of approaching, we have six in the district plus the one additional one for athletics. So seven in the district, it might be wise to get on a replacement plan for them. >> So >> and like this is going to come in the budget in some capacity next year, right? So like do we want to get a head start? >> What's this cost for? One, two, >> this cost is a rough cost of replacing all of them at

067once. >> Like for me, if we need AEDs, just get the AEDs. like, well, why are we waiting? >> And I we will get them tomorrow if the board is good with that. >> I mean, this is like, >> and I guess and I and I don't mean to be like uh a flippant when I say this. This is not my goal with that. This is kind of what I was hinting at last meeting. Like we're good if we just do stuff, right? Like buying an AED because we know it's going to get it's going to expire. Like we I agree like we shouldn't be having this discussion with end of the year expenditures like this is a manageable cost. we should just purchase it and move forward with life. >> Well, and especially if

068we're taking advantage and the nurse wants to go through that state contract plan because Yeah, it >> because it's cheaper. >> Yeah. >> Not only is it cheaper, but you get two highly reputable brands when I search for AEDs in there. >> Yeah. >> You had Phillips and you had Zo, the two top companies in the world for them. >> The world 7,000 employees. They have Z. >> If the board is okay with us making these decisions administratively, we will. But again, >> well, I mean, I think you're also paying, you've also said that you're being very cognizant of the fact that the parking lot is a big issue, right? So, like that would be I think that would be our concern as a at least my concern as a board member would be like,

069>> "Oh, yeah, we bought some AEDs, but the bus just fell into a sinkhole in the parking lot. Now we have to use all eight of the AEDs." >> Yeah. I'm saying shock not advised, but it's shocking because it's >> I mean something like AEDs though like I mean it's a life-saving device, right? I mean it's it's it's a necessity in our buildings. >> Yeah. >> Like >> so I so I would agree for this year, right? If there is funds, >> we need to start a replacement plan >> on them. I am and this is something that I would absolutely put into the budget of every year we're replacing an AED or two and then that way you can then take a gap or you space them out or how or every other year

070so that way in 15 years time right you're back to replacing that first one so that way they always stay in lifetime but this to me is a budgeted item. >> Yeah. I was going to say we really need to like we need to go through this and just like say okay like this needs to be budgeted this needs to be budgeted >> right but I'm also perfectly fine with let's get a jump start >> if if it if we can >> jump start >> u but it it also matters what you buy I mean if we buy something like Zol right they they refurbish them down there you send them back they go through and they they go through them like they were manufacturing and they come back out you you can pay for

071that not have to replace them at $2,000 a piece. You can get them refurbished for 800. >> Yeah. No. And and that's where I >> pads need to be replaced every year or every two years. I think it is. >> Yeah. There's a few things that get replaced on them. But I mean, I'm all for if we can replace them all and get them on a repair plan or a refer plan. I either way I think it's a standard thing that should be become a budgeted item. >> I wonder if you could No, I was thinking the town has an emergency management um plan and stuff. I wonder if there's funds somewhere in there. >> You I mean you also have to think of these AEDs not in this not for directly school purposes, but

072these buildings are used for other purposes in the community. like >> we need to get this done. >> Yeah. So, I think, you know, I'm listening to to you guys right now. I don't know if we have to go through this line by line because I'm picking up the the feelings of what you guys are doing, which is like take care of the safety priorities and make sure that we have the finances in order to take care of the parking lot and the other warn our goals, return to taxpayers and food service. >> Yes. But that being said, like I feel differently about the blue light system, right, which I know you have tagged to safety. I agree that the blue light system is a safety item. However, we've also invested a lot of money

073into the blue light system we already have. >> Yeah. >> Right. And so for this one to replace the system that we already have feels >> a bit excessive. Well, we've actually had we've actually had some progress with the blue light people in the past couple weeks. >> So, I'm just making that as a point of reference for it's not necessarily all safety items that you >> No, no, no. Yeah. I didn't want to make that generalization, but just like >> um Yeah, just tr Yeah, that judgment call of like an AED that's going to expire in less than a year. We're just going to move forward and get that taken care of, right? Yes. >> Versus >> the blue light one I would take off altogether right now because we have made some progress

074and they've helped us out with some things to make the blue light system run better. Knock on wood. It's been a month and it's been okay. Yeah, the astronauts >> have helped us with that. So, um, >> the astronauts, >> that's the name of the company. >> Astronaut. So, at some point Laura on her calendar had appointment with the astronaut. I'm like, Laura, what's going on? be me up. >> Wow. >> So, in general, I would think absolutely. Um, but yeah, and I think at some point if we can make the call relatively this year, but then I think we should be looking at some of these items after this point and just saying, is this, hey, listen, if this really needs to get done, just just do it. and then some of this other

075stuff. But >> like what about the the sink in the nurse's office and the bathrooms at LMS? >> So like >> I think those are things we can just do. >> I >> not all in one big swoop always, >> right? But like like the sink in the nurse's office is something that as a year is unfolding and we're taking we're managing our money that we can get to a point and we can say we can do this repair because it's it's >> you think it was encumbered last year though >> I know it was encumbered last year. >> Yeah. And I don't have an answer for that one right now. So yeah. So the qu I know Julie's not right, but so the question is is what happens like the board has encumbered money.

076Can we use or offset the cost of the this replacement with the already improved encumbrance? >> Yeah, I would have to check with Julian what that is. I don't know that one. >> So I guess a couple questions that I have like the wrestling mats at CHS, it's listed as safety. What is it? They're torn. Is it >> they just get worn out over time? Okay. Right. Like so when we say safety at the it's not for um cosmetics, right? That we want some special new prettyl looking mat, right? Like it's worn out over time and as those mats get worn out more and more, they become a safety issue. We've been working on other a member this list is generating ideas. We've been doing some fundraising connected to the mats. >> Um I wrestled

077in a match to help with the mats, right? like >> working on some some things to get that taken care of. So >> yeah, that again these are just questions that I have and general >> things that I have in there is and then I guess what's up with the ball field drainage at LMS? What is this truly the LMS field? Is this the softball field that LMS uses? >> It's the softball field that LMS uses. So it this is more of a Is it softball or baseball or both? >> Probably both. But I think softball is where it puddles more. Is the softball field like just more wet? >> Well, it's lower land. >> Yeah. >> And it's surrounded by those, you know, stuff. So, I'm guessing if if water's going to pond anywhere,

078it's going to be a soft plus the baseball field built up and the leaf. >> So, again, I think we were putting this stuff down. It's ideas that would help long term with facilities, right? when we were generating this, we didn't have that parking lot necessarily as like no have to do thing. So, this was something No, no, I know. Just But, um, that's what that's referring to is if we're going to invest in those fields long term, not just for the schools, but for the town, >> we can talk about putting some different drainage under there that will help the quality of the fields and and everything connected to them. We've done work to improve them, right? Like we doing uh different receding and different um stuff that we did last year, we continue

079this year. So, they're in pretty good condition, relatively speaking, but we can do more to make them even better. So, >> and then we have the the floors at GM or at LMS in the gym, which are literally tripping hazards. I mean, there's a hole in the one next to one the floor next to the door where the termites of we have termites, I guess. And I looked outside. I didn't see any termite baits or treatment options out there. And uh that floor needs some it needs some work just to keep it safe for general use. There's one one place is right out in the middle of the floor along in front of the bleachers. The door coming in from outside. I mean the piece of wood you can pick it up. It's it's loose.

080There's a hole there and there's the water damage on the other side of the gym by the hallway. Those are like three items that I I seen, you know, really quick observation there. So, the termites are the part that worried me a little more. >> Yeah, I guess I haven't seen the termite damage that you're >> Yeah, it it's I >> mean, I've definitely seen gouges in that pool, but >> Yeah, but that does those are patchable. I mean, that's maybe not the prettiest patch in the world, but they are patchable. But where the termites have eaten away the wood, I mean, picked it right up and it's like got tunnels in it. >> Yeah. I mean, so with the I guess this is another one of those things of can it be repaired and

081repaired decently enough? Is it still an active termite infestation? >> We should, >> but the full replacement due to age that I think should be on like the plan earmarked for whether it's reserve funds or something down the line and going from there. But >> I agree. I think just the repair is more in order at this point. >> I don't I don't think we're ever going to get there this year >> any but what I think what again we're talking longterm planning here. Right. >> Right. >> Like next year is going to unfold and we'll get to the end of next year fiscal year. >> We're not going to have the money on that either. >> Well, we may not, but we may. Right. Like that's where like having the ability to make pivots

082and decisions on some things is going to be critical, right? Like and we have to take advantage of these end of the year opportunities to take care of things when when they pop. I I think we need to like take this opportunity to be very clear that there's been a drastic shift in the way that we budget and that drastic shift in the way that we budget is going to drastically impact this type of strategy right so we are not I mean the way you guys are budgeting like you have proactively come in and said okay we're cutting you know a lot of these expenses but the result of that is some of those you know like Let's use positions for example. You've cut tons of parapositions, right? >> Got 19 positions in >> 19

083positions, right? So the only reason that we are even sitting here talking about being able to encumber money is because we had budgeted for positions that we needed that we didn't fill. You've now spent time to say, okay, we can we're going to find a way to work without these positions. We're going to shift up our models. that that money is we're not going to be able to encumber money to the to the levels like of this type of planning moving forward. >> And that's why when we do, we got to pounce on it, right? Like and being >> responsive to like what the needs are like that gym like we're ignoring a lot of GMS right now because obviously something much more significant is we're discussing for GMS, right? And a lot of this

084conversation is around CHS and and LMS stuff right now. And that's why like getting these figures out there and talking about them now like the LMS gym floor some point that needs to be replaced. It does. It's not happening this year. Probably ain't happening next year. But you but there going to be an opportunity at some point and we got to pounce on it. Maybe that opportunity is five years from now because the CHS roof came under than what we were saving for, right? Maybe that's the case or something. >> But we got to like think about these things now. Yeah. like be able to go when we have them >> because it does save us money in the long run if we can do this like >> and get ahead of some of these

085things as we kind of go. >> So I guess one of the questions I have the first one cafeteria tables the notes say it's budgeted to purchase three per year starting fiscal year 27. >> Yep. >> So that's in our operation budget. Is this to get a jump on it? Why? >> That that was the idea. Like, and again, this is entertaining ideas. Yep. >> It's like, hey, did you want to get a head start and get cuz then you're cutting off a budgeted year down the road, right? Right. Like, so if you got a head start on it this year, you're essentially your budgeted year next year is year two of that replacement cycle, right? Instead of being a year one. Got it. >> That's the idea with some of that stuff. >> But

086like we're these are not >> big movers, right? No, cafeteria tables aren't big movers. It's like the floors, the parking lot. >> Right. Well, and and that's and that's where um Right. So, that's kind of the thought process I'm looking at is if we have enough funds to handle big movers, I say life safety that are like imminent life safety, AEDs, LMS parking lot. Those are the things that I I would be looking at. And then after that it would be, hey, you know, we can cut off a year because we were smart this year on the cafeteria tables. That's a go. This is what you guys do. Go take care of it. >> Type situation. Um, >> and for me, I'd rather say, "Hey, I'd rather continue with our $8,000 painting than than accelerating

087cafeteria tape." >> Right. Right. And those are the things that in those June meetings, maybe not even until the 30th where we're having those final discussions, hey, >> like we could allocate an additional $10,000 because we're paying X amount back at that point to the taxpayers, a nice round number. We know the parking lot number at that point. We don't have enough money to do a full auditorium touchup here, but we got say $10,000. Let's get the next phase of painting done, right? Like at CHS or whatever the case may be, right? Like those are the things we got to be ready to just >> and I know it's an unpopular position but the paint but the work in the auditorium is probably lowest on my list for things to do right now. >> Well,

088I think those are the conversations you have, right? Like if we're sitting on we I just use 10 as an example. We're sitting on 50 at that point and we can do gym painting, auditorium painting, and then carpeting right there for that chunk of money right there. And just maybe that's the better dec I'm not saying it is or it isn't, but when we have that number we're working with, we make that grouping of those type of things, right? Like we got the quote, yeah, the painting quotes and this is painting that we can't do because we have to bring in lifts and they're just higher and stuff like that, right? is we got it broken down into subsections, but like really if we're going to paint do the professional painting, we should just do

089the professional painting and do it in one swoop, right? And then that is that trickle down effect of like, you know, well, if you're in the auditorium, you know, and you just painted it, you know, carpet can't be far behind, right? Even if it's talking about doing carpeting a year from now, right? Like you don't want to wait too long to do that. Well, I mean, and yeah, I mean, my view is if we're going to go tape off and do the auditorium, let's do the auditorium. >> Yeah. >> And then put it on a cycle. But I guess in >> I have to cycle back into like LMS at the sinks. I went to the bathrooms there today and and looked at that part of it and they're in they're in terrible shape. Well,

090and yeah, I guess this is, >> you know, so now you got a something that you need kids to wash their hands and be clean and all that kind of stuff. And uh maintenance- wise, it's going to cost you money because something's going to break. I mean, there's you're bound to do it. So, I'm looking more at the infra the bigger infrastructure, not the pretty infrastructure. Trust me, if we could hire two guys to just paint the district and they just went down and painted all the doors and painted, you know, they just kept fixing that stuff, I'd be all for that. >> Well, and and that's where I'm kind of cuz I'm struggling with that because last year we did encumber the money for the LMS student bathroom sinks, >> but it that money

091was encumbered, but >> it was nowhere near 84,000 though. It was a fraction of that. >> Right. And and that's what Julie said in her in her comment is that that company is no longer there. Um and they went to a different contractor. >> Yeah. >> I went looking for commercial sinks today and like the the a 6 foot long trough sink with like three faucets on it is about $3,200 to purchase. You have to get it installed. But but and that's just kind of like the professional painting I can absolutely agree with. Let's let's figure out if that's possible. There's some of this stuff like classroom walls room 28. It's I kind of said, "Oh, >> I just feel like there's so much of this that we should just be deferring to having a

092a budgeting conversation." Like I I I appreciate what we're doing, but like I feel like we are looking at a massive >> But I I think you're right, but I think we've given the superintendent direction. >> Yeah, I know. I'm just trying to move us along. We have a We're going to get a quote for $500,000. >> I know you haven't said it out loud, but I know I get the direction you want. I got safety. Focus on the 80s. Get that done, right? Focus on the parking lot. Get us a quote. >> This was a good discussion cuz I know what to do now with this sheet. >> All right. Also, with the like, not that I not that I wanted to back into it, but with the auditorium chair, like the chairs, I

093see that cleaning is on here, but like I'm like fairly certain that I was sitting in chairs that like the arms were hanging off of. So, like is that repairs and cleaning? >> That's just cleaning right there. But, >> right. Well, that that quote also came in significantly lower. >> Yeah. Anyways. Yeah. >> Okay. >> I'm good. I know. June 10th. >> It's a good conver. It's a good conversation conversation. >> It's a great conversation to have, but I think it's a bigger conversation that we need to have our own >> and we're going to have it two more times. >> Right. Well, and and that's exactly it. >> I think after this it's a bigger conversation. >> All right. So, we're in the process of hiring a new facilities director. So, I just want

094to give a general update on facilities and that position because it's a big one for the district. Uh, we did interviews yesterday. We're going to do some more additional interviews tomorrow. Um, we are very pleased with the candidate pool that we had. A lot of good quality people in the pool. Um, very good interviews yesterday and then two more tomorrow just to kind of round it out and stuff. So, um, we're moving forward on that. Um, depending on the person we select, their start date could vary, right? Like if we were to take someone who's currently at a school district for example, we're going to wait till July 1, you know, allow them to finish off the school year. Um if they're coming from more of a private sector, private sector type of responsibility where

095it's different, there might be a different timeline sooner or later depending on what all that is. We want to be respectful um of where people are leaving from professionally to make sure that timeline is in place. In the meantime, I'm not going to lie, we're kind of not necessarily scrambling, but a lot of people are wearing a lot of different hats right now to make sure we get everything taken care of facilities. We're doing our best to manage it. Um Joe Underwood, who who works as our custodial supervisor here in the district, has really stepped up for us. I can't I can't say strongly enough how much he has stepped up and really um helped us out with everything here, kind of making sure things can go. Julie and I are splitting some additional responsibilities.

096Dan's helping a lot with it as well out of out of Julie's office and stuff. And we're kind of dividing and conquering. Uh Andrew Gora, who's the baseball coach, helping out a lot with Lion cuz he's an expert in that type of stuff. So, we're dividing and conquering um the facil's job right now. We um have met. We have plans for big events such as graduation to make sure that everything goes smoothly. We have mowing schedules that we're following up on. um you know and some of those the weather's not helping on some of those schedules so we have to adjust on the fly but um we are making our way for facilities um we will be in a good place a few weeks from now but it is um a little chaotic making sure

097everything gets done right now for example we presented the adapter swing and we we're trying to get over there and get it up and we just haven't gotten it up yet but it is on our list we it is there >> yeah I thought we had time Monday and then we didn't so we're We're we're getting there on it. So, um and uh so but we are making progress, positive progress, and I'm very pleased with our candidates we have for the position. So, >> it's great to hear. >> Yeah. >> Good. >> It's good. >> Please let Joe know that we really appreciate it. >> Yeah. He he's been a rock star. So, >> and we also appreciate you guys stepping into the >> You know, look, silver lining to everything, right? Like obviously, um

098we wish Dave the best. You know, he left us and everything and everything. Um, no hard feelings there or anything, but um, the silver lining is it is having to jump in, especially at this time of year with things such as the quotes and like has really helped my understanding on some of this process and the turnaround and working with with uh, various contractors and and uh, how that all plays out like that firstand knowledge has been uh, been very good for me I think in this role and seeing how all that stuff works. So it's it's >> very positive attitude. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, there's been some good good things out of it. So, yeah. >> All right. Thank you for the update. >> Yep. >> And uh you're also going to wear the

099BA hat. >> I am going to wear the BA hat tonight and try my best. Um so, Julie is out at her conference, her annual conference today up in Burlington. So, I will do my best to update um the business stuff. Um if I flip over on my thing, she sent me an email. I'll probably screw this up. I'm sorry, Julie. So, her first thing in her report is school finances as usual. she has that all updated um with all of the relevant information connected to that. Um there is one transfer that we are looking to do. This is specifically to put um the costs associated um with the surveying and the planning work for the LMS parking lot into an LMS line from a GMS line. We had the money in a GMS line.

100We're going to shift it to an LMS line. It's for contractual repairs and maintenance. So, it's just it's just shifting from one building to the other to make sure it's in the appropriate line. So, if I could get um hopefully from the board an approval for a transfer of up to $13,000 to cover the final costs for those plans when we get the final bill from LM majors from the GMS contract repair maintenance line to the LMS contract repair and maintenance line. >> So, make second >> fine motion by myself, second by Mr. Peoples. Additional discussion. >> No. >> All those in favor please say I. >> I. >> Opposed. Abstain. 4. >> Stealing my motion. >> Two. We don't think it will be that much in the end, but um that was the cap

101they gave us for for the cost. So um Julie included her solar use the solar usage link there. Um >> looks like it's cranking. >> It's been sunny. So been hot at least. Um, so there's the solar information and some additional information related to solar and >> yeah, that that information is what I'm looking for from K. It's just not presented in a way I was expecting it. So, it took me about 20 minutes to figure out what it's actually saying. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> but it makes sense once you got through that. >> It makes sense. I might I might reconstruct it in a way that will make better sense um in the future. >> Is it producing well? Yeah, it's producing very well. >> Good. >> We got that. >> So, it's

102producing well and >> we need a battery to sit there. Now, we just need a way to store it. >> I I was What I asked K for was can you show me what the building load was, how much we pulled from the grid, and how much we supplemented with solar. >> Yeah. >> And going from there. And she did it. She just did it in a way that I wasn't expecting. >> Okay. Um that's everything on her report, but I'll go the other things on her um agenda item here. Uh any other questions on her report? No. >> Okay. So the second item is the auditor engagement letter um for fiscal year 26. That is so that the auditors will come do the audit. So this is really for Andrew to sign. Um and

103if anyone has any questions about that, happy to answer that. >> Annual process. This is the annual financial audit for this current fiscal year. With board approval, I will sign it as soon as it's received. >> Yeah, I think I have it in the fold. >> Sounds good. >> Okay. >> All right. Next up, uh this is just informative for the board. Um send us the special education funding um numbers. So when we do talk about education funding and in the future in budget season, we'll refer back to these numbers on different caps and different amounts for for special ed funding. >> I know you had some interest in it, right? So we >> I mean I think it's important to it's important I think we should just quickly >> point these numbers out though

104because this is you know when we are budgeting this is very very very impactful. >> Um yeah. >> Yeah. So, in terms of that, like the average um state expenditure for last fiscal year, the one where we we finished last year um is about $22,700 is the average um special ed expenditures per student. So, um that's a a lot, >> but by the statute, school district, it says school districts shall be liable for 3.5 times the estimated state average expenditure. >> Yeah. And then there's certain we get certain >> 20% of the additional cost. >> Yeah. And then we get certain uh amount of that money back when we exceed those caps and stuff like that. So >> and that's per pupil. >> Yeah. >> So like with the 10 times one there. We actually

105I I don't think this past year we had any student who reached that that number. We're there's a couple right on the edge because those are out of district placements typically those type of values and stuff like that. Um so we're fortunate in that sense but um that can change year to year depending on costs that come in and stuff like that. So >> change a heartbeat somebody can move in district. >> I mean when you look at this the overall spending on that the most expensive child we educate in New Hampshire I think it's $571,000 a year >> and there's a lot of them in the two and $300,000 category. Well, and that's why we've, you know, we've we talked about it extensively with budgeting because we have to maintain adequate reserves because you

106can't >> Thank you. >> you can't survive that. Yeah. >> A couple >> We did make some adjustments, some changes. So hopefully it helps out a little bit. The cap threshold was 70,000. Now it's going to be 60,000. So that's, you know,$10,000 more dollars the district won't have to spend before the state starts kicking in. Mhm. >> Um, we put in place a minimum proration schedule. So, I think last year it was prorated down to 68%. And, uh, we we passed a bill that made that 80% is the minimum that they can prorrate it to. >> So, that should help overall with our budget as well. >> It should be higher. Should be 100%, but >> yeah. >> Can't get there yet. >> Yeah. So that's just for reference for the board um for your

107knowledge of the special costs and uh state averages and stuff. And then we've talked about the LMS parking lot um already, but that is the um referencing back to the quote and the transfer that we did and where >> I just want give another shout out to Allen and Major. I mean that the what they've delivered to us in that amount of time like just because I I deal with this on a professional level is absurd. Like that was absurdly fast. How quickly they deliver that. >> They they understood our need. >> I think they're afraid of Andrew is really what it was down to. >> Whatever Whatever got some text changes, >> but they they they came up huge for us and >> I really I said yes. Thank you very much. Y >>

108they're great to work with. They they surveyed my property for me. So it's shout outs to them. >> All right. Uh curriculum. >> All right. Hello. Okay, so um today was actually our last um curriculum review committee meeting for the year, which was um great. I thank all of the committee members for all of their hard work and dedication. We meet from 3:30 to 4:30 once a month, so um it's a longer day for teachers. Um, but we are circling back to the course proposal that was brought to the last board meeting for LMS for Mastering the Page. >> We hadn't received really any more um comments about it. >> Yeah. >> Um, so >> two positive public emails came in. So, >> and members of the FIC also praised and really liked it. >>

109Awesome. Great. Yeah, I think it's going to be a really good way to catch and support um a good number of students that really need that additional support. So, >> say let's do it. >> Yeah, >> let's make a motion. >> I'll make a motion to >> All you got to do is say so move. >> So moved. >> Okay. Second. >> Motion by Mr. Dit, second by Mr. Shoemaker. Additional discussion. All right. All those in favor for approving the LMS course mastering the page, please say I. I >> I post abstained. That carries 4. >> Awesome. Thank you very much. >> Thank you very much. >> That was great work that you guys did. >> Yeah, it really was. We appreciate that. >> Presentation was awesome. I really >> yeah I commend LMS and

110their work for that cuz that was definitely grown from what they have been noticing happening in students and just trying to um provide a little bit more support. I'd >> like to hear like a status update like and just in terms of how it's going. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Yeah. System like that is kind of near and dear because it's something that I know my daughter's going to benefit from. I mean, she she's on that edge, right? And we're working with Mr. Mitchell in the school system now. So, and she's been phenomenal and performing very well since then. So, I know it's something of people, you're on the line, you're kind of not on either side of it. So, that I can see that helping a lot of people, >> right? And that's kind of

111where we're really focusing a lot of efforts too is that like it's one of my CIO CIA goals, right? like the targeted intervention and support. So, they're really like the school buildings are doing an amazing job at getting those processes and we're going to be looking at those like districtwide like so that we can make sure we're providing the most beneficial support for students which is great. So um yeah the um so the review committee this year was really focused a lot on um reviewing and refining some procedures and policies. So we looked at policy JK which is the supplemental um uh resources for and which mainly looks at um movies and um novels and what that proposal uh or actually not the policy not novels for that part but um movie um and how

112they're used in schools and in classrooms. So, we've given some feedback for that. We've rein refined some forms. Um, and then we just today finalized a really cool um infographic that's going to be rolled out to teachers um at the beginning of next year that just kind of really details the process. So, and it has links. So, it's kind of like a one-stop shop for all things related to proposing um films and we did include novels on there just cuz it was part of the whole review process. So, um we were excited about that. Um we overall as a committee we approved reviewed and approved about 40 novel proposals and 37 film proposals throughout the year which was it was busy um but I I like the process that we've settled on and um we're

113talking about creating kind of like a hub for people to go to to see what's already been approved and um we're kind of talking about what that looks like so So that'll be a next year type of um focus for us. And we didn't do a curriculum review cycle this year because there's been so much work in vertical alignment and in where we're at in that like everybody is kind of in like a phase one piece. So we tabled that. We're going to come back to it next year especially because we have some programs coming up for renewal. Um, and we want to make sure that we're gathering data and teacher feedback on those programs so that we know if we want to enter into another multi-year um contract with those programs or if we

114need to start seeking um other resources that could better benefit our instruction. So, that's kind of where we're at for curriculum review committee. Any questions on that? >> All right. So another um really huge uh project was um for ESSA grants, the state has created what they call a consolidated program needs assessment. Each title grant requires some sort of needs assessment and instead of doing them singularly, they created a tool to do them all together so that you're meeting the needs of all the title grants. Um, you have tab I've linked here, it's tab 10. So the first nine tabs are something that myself and the um the stakeholder group went through. We populated uh myself and Karen, thank you so much Karen for helping me with this stuff. We populated all the data and

115then went through with the committee to find priority areas. So this is a summary of the priorities that were kind of identified by the group and um how we should kind of focus and where we should focus our funds. So um there's a lot of um prioritization in the areas of um teacher professional development. MTSS came through a lot, which is kind of what we just talked about. So maybe we could leverage some of those funds to help um with targeted interventions. Um and I'm thinking like we could probably help provide some books or something to um Miss Kramer's program like that would definitely be a good use for title 4. So these are kind things that popped up based on a deep dive in the data. So um if you have any questions or

116if the community would like to email me with any feedback questions um that's also part of the process is getting community input. So, if you're looking at these and you have any um questions or why can we prioritize this, there's a lot of stipulations around grant funding. So, um I'd be happy to talk through those areas with you, but um the I just wanted to show everybody what the group kind of came up with. >> A lot of work for the for the grants. Thank you for all your help. Yeah, it's it's massive, but it's good because it really helps supplement district funding. So, it's great. Um, we have a really well-known um speaker and author coming on June 22nd, Dr. John Spencer to talk about um vintage innovation and deep learning in today's highly

117distracted world. So, I'm very excited for that opportunity and that is fully funded by title 2. >> Great. Fantastic. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's really great. So, um the last thing is the PD master plan. We are required to have a professional development master plan as a district. That is due up in 2026. So, I've current I've started working on updating that with our professional learning coordinators. And then the beginning of the year, we're going to be having a professional learning committee meeting regularly to go over it and then also to give feedback um on upcoming professional learning days that we have for the district in 2627. >> Awesome. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Any questions for Dr. Taylor? >> No, it's been been fun participating. I ask I ask a lot of stupid questions as you

118can imagine. >> They're not stupid questions. They're questions from somebody who hasn't been in the meetings. They make perfect sense. >> Perfect. Thank you for your updates tonight. >> Yep. >> All right. We have public minutes from May 5th. >> Make a motion to approve them. >> Thank you. We have a motion by Mr. Shoemaker. >> I will second. >> We have a second by Mr. Dit. Additional discussion. All those in favor, please say I. I. >> I. Opposed. Abstain. >> Sorry. >> Yep. That carries 301. >> Thank you for that. Uh and we have some policies this evening. >> Yep. Um well, first, you know, it's Christmas for me. I got the New Hampshire School Board Association spring policy update in in email today. So, it's like my >> my excitement um and my

119work for the next two months. Anyway, so we have uh four policies to start that don't need any approvals. They we just updated the formatting of them. No information is changed on the policies. That's KCB, K, KB, and KFA. Does anyone have any questions on those four that are just, you know, staying the same? >> For was it KFA was one of those? >> Yep. >> Question with the KFA one. Um we there's a there's a policy on not smoking or otherwise using tobacco products. Yep. >> Do we not I was looking through it. Do we not have something on like smoking other things or vaping? >> We do. We have It's a different policy >> policy. Okay. Sorry. >> And it's specifically prohibiting drugs, alcohol. There's a whole list >> like uh vaping >>

120is part of it. Vaping. >> Yeah. Vaping is part of it >> and it does it it does it all out. >> Gotcha. That's that was my only question. Uh yeah, we were that was a discussion year or two ago that the the NHSBA policy didn't specifically call out vaping, but we added it. >> Yeah, we added. >> Gotcha. >> Cool. >> All right. The next one is a brand new policy. This is taken a recommended from the schoolboard association. Um we had our curriculum people take a look at it to make sure it's fitting our needs. Our tech people look at it to fit our needs. Um our proposed uh policy is very very similar to the schoolboard association one. Uh we did have a couple of um small additions. Uh we changed the

121sequencing so it lined in in two different parts. And then under um the teacher section about um appropriate uses. We made a note about um when we draft communications. It shouldn't be the communication we send. we should just utilize it for like helping prepare, right? Being conscious of that and then if we're going to use AI that we're modeling appropriate behavior for students about that. We just added those two um kind of components of it. Everything else is the same as the recommended schoolboard um association policy. So, any questions? I want to do that one separate just because it's brand new. Any questions on that one? >> I thought this one was interesting. I mean again our reference is to stay to SBA standards right I I I get that but we it's very focused

122on generative AI and there's no mention on agentic AI and students use agentic AI quite a bit but so I was curious on why that might be >> I think because everyone doesn't know how to handle that one 100% yet um the the how the kids are using it and stuff like this so um >> I think a lot of like when I think of our like um curricular resources like Canva and things like that, they have generative AI embedded in them like the Google suite and that kind of stuff has generative AI. So, I think that's where that comes from. And also, the NHSBA policy was written a while ago. You can't keep up, >> right? >> Yeah. But if I think about what kids are using and how they're interacting with today's technology,

123it's not generative authentic. >> Yeah. I think part of this policy because everything's at response, right, is there was and we were fortunate that that we didn't have to deal with this in at a huge level in this district is there was um the creating of I guess inappropriate images using AI of students, right? You know, and I think this policy is more of a response to those issues that cropped up in a number of school districts. So that's probably I'm speculating, but I'm guessing that's why it's more on on the generative one. So, >> all right. I mean, again, the board's desire has been to stick to NHSBA standards and necessarily propose we deviate from that. >> Okay. And then the next ones, um, just, uh, I think there's five policies that we have

124just updated. Um, I'm going to go through them quickly. So, the fire and all hazards one, I think we we updated to match the New Hampshire schoolboard alignment. And then um the RSA the RSA was updated on the number of drills and types of drills that we need to do. So we just updated it so it matched all the appropriate language and the right drills that we have to do. Um the second one is emergency school and district closing. I think this was a very simple one. Yep. About the different closing types that we have to make sure that we had everything included in one policy. um student transportation services. We have a beginning part um that we kept from the the the beginning part is specific to Lichfield there in part a some of

125the things about um location relevant to GMS um and those type of things associated with it. So we just wanted to leave that Lichford language and then keep everything else with the New Hampshire School Board Association. So that first part in that policy um is um Lichfield specific. We see that a couple times in policies, computer security and email. Um uh new title to match match it. And then there was one thing about personal discs which no one uses anymore but we added it because schoolboard association has it. And then we updated the data retention uh policy and then the accompanying procedure. Uh we pulled them out and separated them was one of the first things that we did and we added all the detail. We really should have all the detail from the that

126is included in um data retention. It's it's important that it's accurate and up to date. So that got an overhaul too. Um any questions on those? >> No. Okay. Nope. >> I will make a motion to approve for first read policy EB CB, policy EBD, policy EA, policy E AAA, policy EB. >> Can you throw in the AI one, too? >> Yeah. Eh A >> at the top. >> Did I miss one? >> Yeah. >> Policy Eh A. Second >> motion by myself, second by Mr. Duet. Additional discussion. All those in favor for first read approval, please say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Same. 40. >> All right. Uh, we have old business tonight. Enrollments. How we looking on K? >> Same as last time. 65 kids is where we're at right now. Okay. >>

127Um, hopefully get a couple more that come in. Um I think pretty much all of them attended our registration which uh orientation excuse me which was last Friday. So that was really good. Um but be nice if that number could get into the 70s when it's ultimately said and done over the summer here. So >> still quite a bit of houses for sale and changing hands. So hopefully kindergarters come on. >> Everyone else has kind of stayed the same. So we're good. >> GMS. >> Um we met yesterday with the kind of advisory team. We went over some um finer details as they update the floor plans with more detailed information, right? Um some of it is doesn't sound like the most earthshattering stuff, but like where are the cubbies going to be? Where exactly

128are the bathrooms going to be, where exactly is this part going to be and stuff like that. Um so we were going over all that work kind of in the advisory team yesterday. Um me and Dan met Dan did the bulk of the talking um about um adjustments to the floor plan about shifting condensing some of the office space a little bit. Could we save a little money here, a little money there to do some different things? So we talked about we did that and that was as part of the updated work um that Herman has been doing and uh we're trying to get the studies completed. We had go forward with the vernal pool and then the wetland study because we're in those seasons right now. So, we're finalizing that process and getting those

129all completed and everything and then just kind of plugging away at it. >> So, they're mobilizing someone on that. >> Yeah. Yep. >> Did they give an indication of when they thought they'd be >> ASAP? So, as soon as they have people, they'll let us know that they can get here to do it in their schedule and stuff. So, yeah. >> Hopefully, we don't miss the season. >> I really hope not. >> Okay. Anything else on timeline? Uh we meet next again in June like with that advisory committee and then they gave us a whole calendar of where they're at. Like um what did they call the June meeting? It's going to be um You weren't there? >> No, I was not there. >> Peter was there. Fer was Matt Matt, were you on yesterday?

130No. >> No, I I could I mean wasn't able to make it. >> I forget. >> They had they had their calendar. They had something very specific we're going to go over the next morning. So all right. Um, did we end up landing on anything related to the uh the guy that does the videos? >> Um, we're continue to be in communication with him. So, we made a decision to move until the fall. He's got us like earmarked, right? Like we have we have ideas of what we want to do. Some versions are like quick hitters that we can get on our social media accounts and like that we can put on different things like that highlight, you know, like 30 second burst this part of the project, right? and then doing a longer like

131narrative one. Um, we haven't finalized that stuff because when we weren't going to do something this spring, he had other projects that he was doing first and then he'll come back to us on the fall. But we're still kind of tentatively committed to working with them in the fall and getting all that stuff in place and everything. So, >> all right. Manifest we have >> Sorry, I was going to say, are those signed? >> Not yet. you need. >> I I was just getting there. Boom. Let the meeting started. >> Okay. Meanwhile, I read manifest. You can take a look at those. We have accounts payable. Um $136,876.58. Uh several accounts payable tonight. Another one for $157,9208. Uh another accounts payable of $58,8427. another accounts payable of $26,8771. Uh a payroll manifest of $443,41252. Uh

132we have our 403b of $255,259. Uh and then we have LSSA dues of $46926. I'll give uh a couple of moments for the board to finish off signing the manifest. With that, I will uh just open it up for our second community input as well. And seeing since there's nobody from the community here, we'll close community input. No, no, you're good. You're good. Let's keep going. Yeah, we're sorry to >> We're almost there. We're almost there. Almost there. >> We have to finish signing the manifests here. >> Thanks, Brian. >> Yeah, >> keep coming. >> Yeah, there were a lot of manifests tonight. >> Wow. >> Thank you to Ann for all of her help. >> It's coming to the end of the year, so >> yeah, that's it. All right. And just while Mr.

133Shoemaker finishes his review of manifests, are there any schoolboard comments this evening? >> No. Okay. Hearing and seeing none, the board does have some business tonight in non-public under RSA 913, uh, specifically section C. Uh, and with that, uh, that does conclude our public session tonight. Uh, and I will entertain a motion to move into nonpublic moved. >> Motion by Mr. Shoemaker. >> Second by Mr. Dit. That's a roll call vote. Mr. Peoples. >> Yes. >> I am an I. Mr. Dit. >> I. >> Mr. Shoemaker. >> I. >> That carries 4 Z. Thank you very much.