001Okay, good evening everybody. Welcome to the September 2nd, 2025 meeting of the Lichfield Planning Board. Would you all please stand for the pledge of allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Uh, roll call of members present. Michael Croto, chair. >> Jared Okonnell, vice chair. >> Jesse No, alternate. >> Letha Riley, member. >> Travis Tucker, member. >> Steve Gennon, selectman's rep. Okay. Um, absent this evening is uh Mr. Blanchett um who is not with us tonight. Uh, also Joan McKibben, our planning board administrator, is also not with us tonight. We do have Jamon Car from NRPC. Welcome. >> And Jeremy >> Jeremy. Yes. So, um, I'm going to turn to
002our alternate. Um, Jesse, do you want to uh fill in for either uh Russ or Jeremy tonight as a voting member? >> Yes. >> Okay. Very good. Uh first item is uh public input on non-aggenda items, items not listed on the agenda for this evening. Is there any members of the public that wish to address the board on any non-aggenda items this evening? Okay, seeing none, I will close public input on non-aggenda items. We'll go to uh the first order of business this evening, a site plan amendment by Mel's Funway Park to allow parking in the cornfield at the southwesternly portion of Tax Map 20, lot 17 for the Holly Jolly Journey light show. This area was previously approved for parking for seasonal overflow parking for Spooky World Events. Is the applicant present? >> Mr.
003Chairman, members of the board, good evening. >> Is present. I'm Andy Pearlman, attorney with Pruner and Pearlman of Nasha. With me at the table is Pete Matson from Kee Nordstrom. And we are back. We've been here many times over the years. >> Yes. >> With very very simple request for the board tonight. >> Uh that honestly was um uh the seed for this uh proposal came from town staff, police department, building inspector. Uh because when Holly Jolly Journey started up last year, very successful had a really good run and uh the folks said, "Why don't you park in that big park big cornfield like you do for Spooky World and uh Mike and Mike Akamando and Wayne Coughfield who are with us tonight, the owners of Mills, uh they said that's a great idea, but
004we're not approved for that." So that's what we that's all we're doing here tonight. Uh everything is the same. the fencing, the lighting, nothing changes other than permission to use the cornfield uh for Holly Jolly Journey events just like they do for Spooky World. >> Okay. So, it sounds like a minor change to the the site plan. >> Minor site plan amendment is all we have for you tonight. >> Okay. Um so, um first of all, um I know Joan is not here this evening. I don't know if Jay if you can answer this, but have all the fees been paid and the abuters notified or do you know that? >> Yes. Okay. So, we have fees paid, butter is notified. Um, and soon the uh there was no regional impact to this project. Um,
005so I think what we're going to do first is we're going to do um acceptance of the plan. Do you have a copy of the plan, Mr. Pman? I know. >> Sure. >> Mr. Chairman, um, >> yes. I just brought one extra copy if you I can I'm happy to share with the board. >> Does anybody want to take a another copy? I can't get the image be attached. >> Yeah. >> I'm sorry. I apologize. I can't get the image to >> Oh. Oh, okay. >> All right. >> I'll I'll speak to the um the change in the note of the plan, but just procedurally the >> Let's let's do this first. Let's let's accept the plan for its completeness. >> Um so, as I said, I have butters notified, fees paid. We have a
006plan. Jay, did you have an opportunity to take a look at this plan? We did. >> And any questions, concerns? You It was You feel it's a complete plan. Okay. >> So, I'll entertain a motion for acceptance of the plan for completeness if >> So moved by Mr. uh Travis Tucker. Do I have a second? >> I'll second. >> Second by Jesse. All right. Any further discussion? All those in favor of the motion for um acceptance of the plan for completeness, please signify by saying I. >> I. I. >> Those opposed, abstained. >> Motion passes. 5 0 6. >> Oh, I'm sorry, Travis. You're usually over there. Uh 600. Okay. >> All right. So, we've accepted the plan for completeness. Um I guess I'll let you, Mr. proman um provide us with. >> So I
007mean I can give the overview uh Pete I can answer any details on the plan. The plan that you have before you um that um should be part of your packet that is under consideration tonight is the very same plan that's been approved by you folks many times um for all things Mel's and Spooky World and Holly Jolly Journey. The only change that we are adding and requesting tonight is on note 27. Um, and we're adding the world words and holly jolly journey events at the end of the sentence. That's the only change on the plan. >> Okay. So, number 27 here come up. If you right click to open tab. Okay. Okay. Um, does anybody have any questions for the applicant? Yes, Miss Brley. >> Um, can I see that sheet a minute? >>
008Yes. >> Because ours is vertical and I can't read vertical. >> The resolution is low. It's only by six. >> So, um, Mr. Mr. Sheriff, if I may, I just uh maybe request that Attorney Pearlman um >> just explain for the members of the board who were not here when um we made this last approval, just briefly explain the cornfield parking, how it works, have new members. So, right, maybe like give a little background. >> That's that's a good point. Um I can't recite the chronology because I've been working with with Mike and Wayne and Pete for this for so long. Um but when um Mike and Wayne acquired Mills um they acquired the old mills that was much smaller operation than what you what we have today. It was really the go-kart track, the
009batting cages, um the mini golf parking lot, the restaurant that was there. It was very small, but over time um Mels expanded and purchased additional property across the street across the Charles Bank. they purchased from Joan de Rocher. Um her house um that you can make out uh along the Marramac River. Her house um was it's map 20 lot 7. And then along with her house came the large cornfield um that you see um southerntherly from Miss Dro's old home. Um and it says you can see that's marked out at part of map 20 lot 17. Uh that's a big corn field um that um the McQueen family um farms uh during the season. Um and then when they uh harvest um between the McQuest and our Mel's team um they just mow that field
010down. They get out the um uh they clear it all out and then they have giant rollers, heavy rollers that flatten it out for parking. Um and then that um area is uh lit uh at night and fenced uh behind the homes along the Charles Bankraftoft and that's where the parking uh is used for the Spooky World events. Um and it's been very successful. There are parking attendants flaggers, train flaggers, and they and uh the Mel's team works very closely with the police department um in managing traffic. Um, and something new this year, um, there's not going to be a charge for parking. There has historically been a charge for parking, um, in the, um, in the cornfield for Spooky World. Uh, that's not going to, uh, happen, uh, anymore because Mike and Wayne took
011a survey of all their customers, um, and they said, you know, we'd prefer to pay a couple more bucks on our ticket rather than have to pay separately for parking, right? So, that's going to be part of the uh, ticket price to uh, come to Spooky World. Uh so that has turned out to be very successful. It's good. They've really got it down managing the flow of traffic uh in and out of the uh cornfield parking lot. Um and then uh I think a year or so ago um the Holly Jolly Journey was approved was approved. Um over time, uh the initial version of Holly Jolly Journey was going to be a drive-thru where the um uh where the um >> patrons >> the hay ride >> Haunted hay ride. Thank you. Um the haunted
012hay ride. It was originally the Holly Jolly Journey was going to just be a drive-thru. You could take your own car and you could tune on your own radio and and and you drive through the haunted hayride. But as it turns out, um the state-of-the-art of this type of feature is a more of a walking um type of entertainment and amusement facility. Uh and so that's what they have today. So last year was their first season for the Holly Jala Journey. Very successful. Uh I heard nothing but good things about it. Um, and again, it was suggested as the um the December and January kind of rolled through that, you know, perhaps you should use the parking lot like you do for Spooky World in the cornfield instead of having the parking kind of spread
013out all over the all over the campus. So, that's what we're here to do tonight. So, that's an overview of where we are. Anybody have any questions? M. correct that you want. >> So, uh where do um the cars enter when they park here? >> Um down at the um at the southernmost um end of the lot. Um you can see there's an NE T and T easement in in between that easement um and map 20 lot 7 right on Charles Bankraftoft. There's a little entryway right there. Um, and that's the um I believe that's both in and out, although Mike and Win will correct me if I if I say that wrong. I believe that's both an in andout um access as well as there's an exit um in between uh map 20 lot
01413. You can see there's a little drive aisle um just north of map 20 lot 13. There's a drive aisle that brings you out to the uh way of highway in Charles Charles Bankraftoft. Uh that that's an exit. And so and again uh the police department are out there helping uh the flaggers. Um and it's all lit up at night. So it's well managed. These these guys have been doing it for so long now it's it's kind of it's an automatic pilot at this point. >> Thank you. >> So my first question is for all of you guys because I wasn't here when this originally happened with Spooky World. So, what were the hours that were put on because they're not on the plan? Were there any hours that were imposed on on this >>
01524 here? >> Yeah, actually on uh note 24 on that overview plan, if you are able to look at it, um it says the winter light show will operate between 400 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. from the Friday after Thanksgiving to January 15th. Uh there's also a couple other uh odds and ends that are on there as well for hours. >> So then my next question would be to you guys. So are you adjusting that in any way to reflect that particular note as well? >> Because if you're going to put the hours for one Well, actually it says January 15th, right? Yeah. Okay. Okay. >> So I'm sorry. I wasn't here for the the Holly J. >> No, that's okay. No, the answer to your question is is no. The only thing we're changing on
016the plan is on note 27. >> Note 27. Okay. >> So, when we had that group that was here Oh, in the spring with the tree farm down there wanted the barbecue, >> right? This sounds similar to me that okay it's not it was not like necessarily parking lot but it was >> parking and neighbors and you know >> right >> possible noise anything else. >> So I guess I would just defer to any neighbors who had any comments or concerns. Have we received any in the mail with um the notice of this particular >> No, not for this event. No. >> Okay. So, I'll wait then to see if anyone has any issues. [Music] >> And I know I mean obviously the cornfield has been used many times for the Halloween events that have
017happened here. So, um I think this is just an extension of that because now they have the Christmas event. So, they won't just want to use it. That's basically my understanding. So, >> which is great by the way. >> Okay. Anybody have anything else anyone has? >> I just one one question. Is it going to be plowed in the winter? If there's an abundance of snow, you can plow the field. >> Sure. >> It'll it'll have to be it'll be it'll have to be plowed and then where necessary it's going to have to be sanded because I put my lawyer hat on and I think liability. >> So, these guys have that down. Okay, >> that's all we had, Mr. Chairman. >> Okay, Jay, do you have anything you want to add application? >> Um,
018I mean, no, really, it's it's it's really very minor. Essentially, it's just taking the cornfield that's already approved for um over, you know, for parking for the Spooky World event. And I I believe there's not much of a gap between Spooky World, if any, uh between Spooky World and the Holly Jolly No, >> no, it's two two weeks. >> So, it's pretty much just extending that from November to January 15th. >> Well, hence my concern for fatigue of for the neighbors. >> Yeah, this event is definitely not the most um disturbing event held here compared to Spooky World, the holy jolly part of it. Um >> I don't know. There were a lot of there was a lot of traffic coming in and out of there for a good long amount of time and everybody
019I know who went loved it. They said it was great. >> So, but nevertheless, my concern is the fatigue of the neighbors. >> Okay. Um if there's no other other are there any other questions from the board? Uh if there's no other questions from the board, I'm going to open it up to public comment. Uh at this time, any members of the public wish to comment on this site plan applications this evening? >> Yes, please come forward. Uh have a seat at the uh table. Introduce yourself to the board. Uh your name and your address, please. >> Hi, I'm Laura Fette. And one little difference from last year is that I now own that yellow house. Yay. Which I love. Um and we have seen some of the traffic, but it's not an issue. I'm
020I'm wanting to be clear about what we're talking about. It It looks like and and when we went to see Holly Jolly, there was an area I just I can't see I couldn't see on the map plot maps. Is it the area just to the mostly on the other side of the access road? >> Mr. J, if I may just >> Yes, that's fine. You can point out where you're looking. You're here, right? >> I don't know. That's why I couldn't tell. Um, where's Holly Jolly? There. >> So, Holly Jolly's all up in through here. >> Oh, I'm on the wrong side. Okay. Yes, I'm here. Is this where the parking is? That's where I saw last year. >> This is the parking all back up in here on the other side. Not only that
021because even on our on our access and and at the end of the year I think also you used that area next to our house as well for which was perfect. I'm not objecting. I just I just want to understand and I do understand there's a lot of traffic so we'll stay home. Um so it is it is the stuff behind not on the southwest portion of our lot. >> Correct. Will do you can I ask this question that >> well usually this is it's it's to comment to make comments um not really necessarily if the if the applicant wishes to address an issue um you can address it to the board and then if there's a question that comes out of it if you want a question then we can we can ask the
022applicant. So >> well it it sounds like I'm my clarification is that they're not talking about anything next to my house. Is that what you >> said? Okay. >> And I guess I don't have a question on that. >> Okay. >> Well, thank you. >> Thank you. >> Any other members of the public wish to comment on the application? Yes. Please come forward. Uh, state your name and address for the record, please. >> So, I'm David Mitchell from 440 Charles Man. So, my questions are, is the fence going to be permanent structure? Are you going to take it down before frost set in? That's one of my questions. And with the guests coming in to park in the cornfield, will you be sending staffers to come on the property side to clean up the trash?
023>> Michael Akamando, Mel Funway Park, Spooky World, Holly Jolly. Um, last year when we first opened, there was no fence that ran all the way down the field because originally we were parking for the third lot to cross the street and after the first weekend, that's when we were notified by police, fire, highway department. Everybody said, "Listen, can you go back to the cornfield? It's going to make it easier." So, there was traffic without a doubt that first Saturday because we were crossing people across the street and that was the bulk of the lot. And that's when everybody came and said, "Put it over here." At that point, we didn't have a fence up, so it was difficult for the neighbors. Absolutely. That first season, I think we only ended up using it maybe a
024half a dozen times. This year, the fence will stay from Spooky World straight up. So, then that way we can get it into the ground because once we knew we were allowed to park there last year, we couldn't get the fence in. The ground was like a brick. So, unfortunately, there was no fence there. But again, we hadn't planned on parking there last year. We were asked to park there last year. And that's how we became here. We were asked again, we want you to go over there first and if anything happens, we'd rather have you go across the street if all else feels. So that's why we're back in the cornfield and there will be lights and the fence will be up. The parkers will be there and if you ever have any issue,
025you can call me directly and I'll come to your house myself and go over and check if there was any. >> Only reason I'm asking is I know on Sundays some of your staff members will go out to the parking lot and clean up. We can ask them to do it. I just think they're afraid to go onto somebody else's property. >> Well, I I figured coming over be more of a courtesy. >> Some of the neighbors don't feel that way. >> Well, there's only four people. >> We'll have I have I can I'll have my people walk around and come into your yard, but there's certain yards that don't want us on their property. So, but I would be more than happy to have them come to your house. So, it's with that, but
026also when the fence comes down, when people kick your fence and break the fence, they don't pick up some of the debris as they leave. They take the fencing the section >> and they don't grab another >> and they don't anything is broken. They leave there >> anytime. And and that's the case, I apologize for it. It should be picked up. Like I said, you all you have to do is I'll give you my number. You call me directly and we'll take care of it within 24 hours. >> If I don't know there's something there, I can't fix something. I understand that. But as far as >> staff members doing their job, >> as long as you don't mind them coming on to your property, >> I wave to them when they put the fence
027up and they're very courteous. >> I'm just saying I shouldn't have to call you, sir, to have them do their job. >> Unfortunately, in today's world, sometimes people don't do 100% of their job. And that's why management needs to know so we can fix it if there's a problem. Management can't fix it if we don't know. So, I can't train my staff to do a better job if I think they've done the job correctly because nobody's brought it to my attention. So, if you bring it to my attention, I'll be the first one to make sure it doesn't happen again. >> Since it was brought to my attention, I can assure you this year when the fence comes down, >> so I can get >> I'll have it I'll have it right. >> You have
028a card? >> I don't have a card. I can I can I'm sure Mr. Attorney Pman will give me a piece of paper and a pencil to give you that. >> That works for me. >> I can take care of that for you. Appreciate that. >> Not a problem. >> Thanks. >> Okay. >> All right. Well, thank you. Anybody else? Public comment. Okay. Going once, going twice, three times. Okay. So, at this time, I am going to close public input on this site plan application. There'll be no further public input. I'm going to bring it back to the board. Uh, any other questions from the board? Any last minute thoughts? >> I just had a quick question. The lighting piece, um, are there going to be light like temporary lights for people? >> Exact same
029that spooky world. >> Okay. >> Um, so those lights will be in the exact same spot that it has been since 2018. >> Okay. Very good. Thank you. All right. Anything else? Well, um, Mr. Pearlman, do you have anything else to add or? >> Uh, no. >> Okay. >> Good to be here and see you again. >> All right. Yes, as always. Um, so board members, um, this is the time. Does everyone want to make a motion? Do you want to approve the the amendment site plan? What is the will of the board this evening? >> Make a motion. >> You can make a motion. >> Uh, let's see. I move that the uh board approved Mel's Funway Park to allow parking in the cornfield at the southwesterly portion of tax map 20 lot 17
030for the Holly Jolly Journey light shed. >> Okay, I have a motion by Miss Riley. Do I have a second? >> Second that. >> Second by um Jared. Any further discussion? All right, we'll take a vote. All those in favor of the uh site plan amendment. Um please signify by saying I. >> I. >> Those opposed. Anybody abstaining? All right. Motion passes 6 0. >> Thank you very much. Appreciate it. >> Thank you for coming in. Appreciate it. >> Thank you guys. >> Thank you. >> Have a good evening. All right. The second uh item on the agenda for this evening is a site plan application. Dan Gable, property owner, Linda Jacobson, 502 Charles Bankraftoft Highway, Tax Map 21, lot 12. This was uh this application was uh continued from August 19th, 2025. Uh is
031the applicant present this evening? >> Perfect. Thank you very much. >> And can the applicant introduce himself to um the uh the board? >> Dan Gable, 41 Sparhawk Drive in Lindadere. Thank you. >> Instructor at the location. Okay. So, I think the last time um we were looking for a um some sort of a design from you um regarding what the permanent sign would look like um if it was attached to the um the sign that's already up there. Uh it looks like you provided us with sort of a a sample of that. >> Um so, thank you. So that uh design is being constructed by the same people that made the other sign. >> Okay. >> Uh and then so at that sign works has uh cancelled with me just recently and said the
032plastics on those signs are going to match the the background color is a subdued white. I think it's almost gray. >> Okay. >> But plastics do age. So that that shade will change over time with ultraviolet light. As you can see on that draw on the thing I've provided for you. There's two slots down there to change. So you can see the two bottom slots on that on those panels. >> I see. >> So that's where I put the class dates and the class that'll be held. >> Got it. >> And those will be removable panels that I'll put in. >> So that Okay. Got it. >> And the two top panels will stay permanent. >> Okay. >> The the color will match her color on her her font. >> Uh the the the uh
033font type is is highway graphic or highway. Uh I can't remember what it is, but it's the highway. Yeah. So, that's a little bit easier to read. >> I did some tests previously. Uh I have 2020 vision with my glasses on and and I can resolve her sign after I could resolve my sign. But this will do because I can't fit any larger type on that on that first run because of the length of my name. Right. That's where it's at. >> I'll be changing those dates and those times as the classes change. True. >> All right. Does anybody have any questions? No, but thank you for this. This looks great. Thank you. >> Yeah, I think it's going to look good. >> This is what I was hoping for. So, thank you, >> Jay.
034Do you have any comments? >> Uh, no. I I think this is just a huge improvement and clearly it, you know, fits in with the existing sign. It meets our ordinance requirements. >> So, it's >> okay. >> Definitely a step up. >> Good. As you can tell, we're visual learners. >> No, I think it I think it looks good. Um I think it'll fit perfectly. >> Well, we appreciate you delaying your the time to come back to us so you show us that >> I'm not in a hurry. >> We appreciate that very much. >> So, >> um if there's no other questions, I'm just going to It's a procedural thing. I'm going to open up to public comment. Any members of the public who wish to comment on the sign application this evening? And
035seeing nobody else in except our um our scribe, Mr. Matt. Um I'll close public input and bring it back to the board. What would the board like to do? >> I have one question. When do you think you'll have the the sign in and installed? Well, today we just we just came up with that idea. In other words, that that was finalized today because of the the holiday and and the the sales lady had co so that delayed things. So, I imagine uh within So, now that we have the design, I met with the president of the company about a few hours ago and so uh as soon as they can get it in production, so I would I would hope within a week. >> Really? That fast? Okay. So, and it it if it
036goes past that week, won't be very very long because I need the sign up. So, >> yeah, I was just curious on the on the turnaround time. A week is much faster than >> I because they they've done they've done her signs before, so they're they're very aware aware of that. So, >> okay. Anything else? Does anybody uh would like to entertain a motion this evening? I will make a motion to approve the sign application for Dan Gable, property owner Linda Jacobson, 502 Charles Bankraftoft Highway, tax map 21, Law 12, continued from our meeting on August 19th. >> All right, I have a motion by Travis. Do I have a second? >> Second by Letha. Uh, any further discussion? All right, we'll take a vote. All those in favor of the site plan application uh
037for the sign uh for um 502 Charles Bankraftoft Highway Tax Map 21 lot 12. Uh please signify by saying I >> I. Those opposed. Anybody abstaining? All right. Motion passes 6 0. You're all set. >> Thanks, B. Appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> We appreciate it. If you'd like two extras in >> Thank you very much. Take the rest of >> Thank you. >> All right, moving on. Uh, committee reports. Any reports from any committees? I guess Jay, I'll start with you. Um, I don't know. Have you been with economic development at all or? >> Uh, no. I was not able to attend their last meeting. >> Okay. Uh, anything from NRPC? Uh so the next uh full uh commission meeting is September 17th. That's at 7 pm at NRPC offices. So again, those are
038they're public meetings. They're open to anyone. Uh you can participate remotely or in person, but the main items are going to be um an update um on the status of the 10-year plan, the projects, I think I mentioned before, that are being moved out, the changes that are happening. We're also um going to have a presentation on the region valley initiative for folks who are familiar with that. that is um a really broad initiative um centered in Manchester but includes Manchester Nasha and all the communities in between and around uh and that's the uh initiative that's focused around the army uh facility the research facility uh which is uh basically it is a economic hub focused on regenerative medicine and it is expected there were significant ificant federal investments that were made um two different
039series of grants that have gone into it. So, it's a it's a really it's a broad initiative, but it's really focused on developing uh this region as a hub for regenerative medicine. So, it's it's pretty exciting. Um you know, they anticipate that it's going to ultimately create around 10,000 jobs. It's going to have some really really significant economic impacts. Uh so, we're going to have a presentation on that. Um should be interesting. >> Okay, great. Thank you. Um, capital improvement committee met uh last month. Um, our next meeting, I believe, is September 15th. Um, I think it might be at the fire station. Not sure. It could be. Um, we talked uh last time we met with the library and um the conservation commission. I think the next round is going to be rec recreation
040commission. Um and I think we're going to hear from the school side on things. So that I believe is 6:30. Um I believe it's at the fire station. Um the conservation commission uh met uh last month. Uh we have a meeting coming up I believe this Thursday. It's the first of the month in September. Uh so this Thursday at 7 I'm sorry at 6:30 p.m. I think it's here in town hall. Um and the lower Marramck Local River Advisory Committee met last Thursday to review a project in Marramac. uh and for DOT. Um they also created the slate of officers for the um the committee and uh surprise I became I was nominated as the vice chair so for the lower Marramac. So and another gentleman from Lichfield Pete Stone was made the chair. So
041>> so you have two people from Lichfield who are running lower Marrammac. may not willingly, but they're right now they're they're running it >> more small town power. >> I know. So, um that's what I have to report about that. Um and that's all I have for my committee reports. Uh board of selectman, Mr. Ganon, did you want to say anything? >> Really nothing too pertinent to this commission. Uh we're spending a lot of time, it's budget season, so we're spending a lot of time on the budgets as well as uh updating and crafting policies. >> Okay. Good. All right. Uh approval of the August 19th, 2025 minutes. Did anybody have an opportunity to take a look at those? Have any questions? Uh amendments? >> They look pretty good. >> Yeah. the um motion that
042I made um technically didn't have every single um for the waiver did not technically have every single letter. >> It was some of them. >> Yeah. >> So should um should we make it reflect that or or does it not matter? motion to Are you talking about the page four where you >> Yeah, page four grant the waiver request for the lot line adjustment. >> Yeah. >> Um section B D um E G H J O R S if the minutes are correct. >> Oh, I see. Okay. >> E D E F. >> So they went Okay. The letter by by the letters. I see B through S. Slide 30. It's missing C F I K K L M N. >> We could just make it explicitly say the numbers. >> Yeah, >> I think
043that's fine. >> Yeah, >> just the numbers listed right above the motion. >> Okay. Mhm. >> Anything else? >> Not that it probably makes >> No, no, no, no, no, no. I I think it's that Yeah, it's a good good catch. Okay. Anything else? >> I didn't see anything else. >> All right. Um, does anyone want to make a motion to approve as amended? I'll make a motion to approve the August 19th, 2025 minutes as amended. >> Okay. I have a motion by Jared. Do I have a second? >> I'll second. >> Second by Jesse. Any further discussion? All those in favor of approval of the August 19th, 2025 minutes as amended. Please signify by saying I. I. >> I. >> Those opposed abstain. I I did watch the meeting and read the minutes, but
044>> you have enough people to vote on it. >> Okay, that's fine. Um, so the motion passes 501. >> Thank you. All right. Let's see. Any other business this evening? Jay, is there anything that you would like to talk about? Uh really ju just to not think for our next agenda is also going to be a fairly light one, but we we thought it would make sense to um agenda just a workshop um to kick off our zoning amendment season to talk about the ones that we have on our pending list and anything else that we might want to think about so we can start that process going. >> Okay, >> sounds good. Are there any specific items you think we should focus on? I think the the main one is we do have to
045look at the accessory dwelling unit ordinance um because of changes that happened in state law. Um and I know Joan has brought up looking at the definition of um a duplex versus a single family home. So that's I think there's a couple of other definitions I know we want to look at. So those at least are on the list. And I suspect we probably have a few other things we'll want to revisit. There's things we've talked about in the past. So whether we want to look at them or not, now's our time. >> Yeah, >> It's that time of year. And you know, just as kind of a reminder of the um the the process, but typically our the latest we could hold our first public hearing is more or less the first or second
046week in January and then usually the last week of January, depending on how things fall. I'll look at the schedule. So typically we like to have our amendments in ready to go form in December. Um so it's we have time but it's it's September. Believe it but it's September. So you know that that gives us enough time but it it does mean that now really is the time to jump on it so that we're not scrambling. sometimes can happen is you've got an idea, you think it's great, but you just realize we don't have enough time this year. So, it's always, you know, if we can avoid that >> to modify the ADU, we have to have that on town ballot. So, >> Right. Right. Uh, I mean, there's what we have to do, but
047there's also this also just a time to look at other requirements. Do we want to change the sizing? So, it's an opportunity to, you know, look at it more broadly since we're opening it up. Um the economic I know the economic development committee is working on a putting together a draft or or something. Do we know when we're going to actually see that at all? >> It should be coming soon. That actually leads to something else I wanted to talk about in a workshop updating our next uh master plan chapter. So the economic development chapter was one of those chapters and so we've been kind of waiting for that committee to make its recommendations. they've also reviewed the chapter. Um, you know, the existing chapter. So, that's really kind of one on the list. Um,
048and we also talked about natural resources because the conservation plan was updated last year and that's kind of a natural to take that. Um, but we we still have, you know, we have a few. So, if you kind of go on the website, look at our master plan chapters, you can pretty readily see which ones are the most outofdate. Um, so that yeah, we we should discuss that also and get something rolling because it's the last one we did was the population in housing chapter. >> Uh, and I think we if I recall correctly, we wrapped that up in January. Uh, so time to look at the next one. >> That one doesn't require any um like changes to like any >> Yeah, you don't need like votes. >> No, but but we do it
049does require that it's adopted after a public hearing. So there's a typically and usually there's been enough conversation around at the first one where it's not uncommon where we've gone to a second, you know, hearing or continued it. So >> yeah. >> And how long do you think it'll take to um work on a chapter? >> Really depends on which one we decide to tackle. um >> like economic development is obviously taking >> that that'll probably be a little take we will have input from the committee uh that'll probably take a little longer. um natural resources if we decide to do that one. I I think that's that really I mean there probably there may be some things that we want to talk about and discuss but uh because the conservation plan was done so
050recently um the data the mapping I mean so much of that just translates directly into the chapter um there's a lot of recommendations in there but we want we might want to go uh you know look at it more broadly so >> kind of hard to say but usually I And it's a period of, you know, let's just say, you know, four to six months for sure. Um because you do want to have time to absorb it, think about it, and and then there's scheduling. So if we're busy, it gets harder to get it on the agenda. And that's happened before, too, where we just have applications coming in. We know we're going to see some applications coming in at some point in the near future of significance. So >> yeah, I've seen uh test
051pits have been dug on the um lot across from um like on the >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. So So that's coming right. >> So now that we have we have we have a little bit of a break potentially. So let's take advantage of it and >> Yeah. >> do what we can. >> Yeah. Sounds good. Yeah. I think concept the natural resources one might make sense. >> Yeah, I I think so too. >> Okay. Anybody have anything else for any other business? Okay. Um well, that's all for tonight's portion of the planning board meeting. Um at this time, I guess I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. Our next meeting is September. When is it? >> Two weeks from today. >> 14th. >> 16th. >> Six. >> What's today? >> It's the 16th. >> 16th.
052So our next meeting is September 16th. >> I will be out of town. >> Okay. Um so with that, uh I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> So moved. >> Motion by Altha. Do I have a second? >> Second by Travis. All those in favor? >> I. >> All right. Uh motion passes uh unanimously. 600. Thank you for joining us this evening. Um we will see you on the 16th of September and uh hope you had a great Labor Day weekend and um enjoy the the nice weather. Thank you.