001Um, I do I do need a couple action result with you guys tonight. But first of all, I do want to say that the JLMC safety plan was submitted and approved by the New Hampshire Department of Labor. Just needed some minor tweaks in it, but that was it. So, it was pretty good for a first run. Thank you for supporting it at the last meeting. The next item is the letter from school care, which I did attach to my board packet. I'm sure most of you have heard about it, read it, seen it. >> Yeah. >> Everything else. Um, >> is that legal? >> Yep. >> You sure? >> Yep. But I mean, I have questions about that, too, because we shop every year, right? So, if these are our rates, so we choose you.
002Oopsie. You owe us 300 $75,000 more. that would that have made someone else a better option for us? >> Um, I mean it could have, but it's it's part of our agreement with them. Um, just like for many years we >> got refunds, but that's for any I mean that that's for any group even if we were with another group. Um I I can tell you this what I know the history here at this district was not only did this district I don't have the exact figure we are going to work on that um but the first year I was here we received 60 plus thousands in um from the prior year in holiday pay is what they called it. Um, but it's technically a refund because they are governed by how much money they
003can make because they are a nonprofit and we as members are like owners um in this pool for health insurance coverage. And for several years when the time is when things are going good, um not just us, but a lot of school districts got significant refunds, holiday pay, whatever you want to call it. And most districts, I will say, brought that money in as unanticipated revenue to reduce taxes. [Music] Obviously, the actuary um history, estimate, whatever you want to call it, was off with significant claims over the past year. This isn't obviously just our pool, right? It's the whole pool. And um this is the 12 1.5% that we are they I guess the board voted to have everybody put in to replenish the reserves. I know what my theory is, but um I the
004rumors have been going around the health insurance p you know percentage increases were going to be anywhere from 20 to 30% this year. That's what the rumors are. So my thought and theory is instead of getting a 30 or high 20% increase, um they're collecting 12.5% of it now. >> Um >> so back up for the purposes of anybody who's watching the recording or just generally reviewing the deliberations. So, School Care is our healthcare insurance provider of choice. >> Yes. >> For our employees and we've been with them for how long? >> They're a municipality health care company along with um health trust who carries Anthem. So, there's two options here in New Hampshire. There used to be three. Interlocal Trust used to be in existence prior to July 1. um in May Harvard Pilgrim.
005But that we've been with schoolare for how long as one of our options >> since I've been here. And our agreement basically with them which is not unique to us it's their agreement with any district that enters into some sort of contractual relationship with them is that depending on a number of sort of set factors >> you the district can either receive a refund >> which we have received in a number of cases in recent history or can be assessed some number >> right uh in order to stop gas, replenish reserves, whatever the case may be. >> And the district is required to >> pay their invoice. >> Yes. >> And that invoice is not unique. That assessment is not unique to us as a district. There's some factor that goes to anybody who's part
006of the >> the pool. The risk is there. Yeah. >> For anyone that belongs to pool insurance, the risk is there. But meaning everyone everyone that is a member is being assessed correct >> right now not just us. So we're currently being assessed $384,000. >> We are >> which were unanticipated. >> Correct. >> And that is to replenish reserves. And where from where do we pay and find this $384,000? >> So we have options. I have a question for sure. >> So when we're looking at insurance again this year, is every single one of our options a pool? Is there an option where they can't do this to us? >> We could go private or we could selfund and you said you're going to find out how much we have gotten from. Yeah, we're going
007to it's it's like beyond >> because it seems like if we're going to get refunds, it should just go into a an account that stays there in case we get something like >> Exactly. And that's what I explained in my board. >> Looking at options where they can't do this to us >> and that's what some districts did do. They created a capital reserve fund for health insurance for good times and bad times, holiday, >> you know. Exactly. So, um, this district did not do that and along with several other I mean, you're not alone. Um, a lot of them took the funds and offset the tax rate with it. Um, hindsight's probably 2020 for a lot of people in this situation right now that those monies should have been put away, could have earned
008some interest, you know, what have you, but we're not there. But I would certainly recommend um that we create one going forward. Um, we just don't know where we're going with health insurance right now. We really don't. Um, we've had fairly decent rate increases here since I've been here compared to what I've seen other districts get. and maybe other providers made up for their reserves in their rates where we only got a 9% and somebody up north got a 26% you know um that's how they replenish their reserves were in their renewals. >> School care unfortunately is in the position right now that they need the reserves now. So, I think if they could wait until July 1 to collect them, they probably would have. Um, but the the reserves are needed now, they probably
009won't make it till then without the the funds. So, I would hope that our renewal rates are not as much as some folks are going to be that are with another company, but um I don't have a crystal ball. So this is um what we're we're dealt with. >> So where would we pay it from? So, the options that I put out here were to um I have the Department of Ed holding our year-end reporting because it's been accepted and approved, but a lot of us are in the same situation where we could reduce our fund balance with the 384,000 and not impact this year at all. or we can just take it as an expense this year and it would come out of our 5% retained balance. I know we had talked about increasing
010deposits to our capital reserve funds. You know, if we went that route that might impact that. My recommendation is to take it from the fund balance. We'll still be reducing taxes by $200,000. >> Take it from the fund balance for this year. last year, >> last year June 30th, 2025 >> for the same fiscal year >> and not >> to not touch this current fiscal year. >> And just to be clear, what happens if we don't pay the invoice? Um well they spell it out when you >> we have deadlines to pay certain things and if not we'll acrew a certain interest and then we'll every employee will be dropped and no coverage will be covered. >> So I now it's possible but I fall asleep at school board meeting so I don't recall it
011happening. I don't I don't recall a single case of the board being briefed on unanticipated revenue or unexpected reduction in expenses and being counseledled to open up a capital reserve fund and hold these monies aside when there have been reimbursements for whatever legal obligations they require. So, I would I would say that um that feels like a missed opportunity and I would speaking only for myself, I would want to see a Warren article establishing a capital reserve fund for this in March. Um where we can sock away money that we would get if we continue to stay with them and you know see some windfall 30 years from now. Uh that we can sock away. um because I think that would be irresponsible to not pursue that. >> So I would just we don't have
012to decide on that now obviously should be part of my recommendation also >> as we get toward toward February. >> Right. And I could tell you we have not received one since I've been here >> received one. Sorry. >> I have not received a holiday payment. >> Oh that would be why I've never heard that. I'm just letting you know. >> I just happened to come across a $60,000 check that was still in the office from a prior year um when I came. >> So, it's been at least five years or more. >> I mean, yeah, it's at least four years. >> Understood. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> I I remember we we got several and I the circumstances for some of those payments I we need to go back and research was slightly
013different I think than than this. I think there are some important cases involved. >> And the 384,000 represents what percent? >> 12 a.5% of our current enrolled plans. >> Is that is that our >> 12? I'm sorry. It's about it it equates to one and a half months of premiums, but it's 12 and a half% of the annual. So a 12 and a half% increase over what the budget passed in like a year, >> right? >> Would have reflected for this line item. >> Correct. >> And due to the nature of the beast, it's nothing that we could have controlled. >> I It was certainly a surprise to a lot of school districts across the state. >> I'm sorry for asking all the questions. >> No, no, absolutely. And >> I think it's good to
014clarify for those who might be listening. >> No, abs. Absolutely. >> All right. So, we'll take that up in a minute, but do you have more stuff on the VA report if this is report? >> Um, I'm gonna actually let Dale, if Dale wants to talk, we'll wait for Dale when we get to him to talk about monitoring system. That was the only other thing that would need action is the monitoring system. But we can talk about that under building and grounds if you want. You mean our facilities? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um I think I supplied you with the communications that I had had and summarized it all. >> Yeah, I think we can talk about that on our new business in a second. Um >> so as you're obviously looking for a vote
015to pay the invoice, is that should that vote also specify where the money is coming? Yes, the vote is where it's coming from. >> So, let's talk about that then. Patty's recommendation is to have it come off of last year's come out of last year's fund balance. >> That's what >> I've already talked to everybody. So, I want to make sure I get it right too. So >> which would reduce how much we are reducing the tax rate by >> right? So no matter how you slice it, there's a direct hit essentially to the taxpayer >> and the tax rate will still come in less than what we estimated in March. >> That's significantly elevated over what it was probably not significantly even more because it's coming down less. Yes. Um >> although with with
016the reevaluation just talking tax rates right now is tricky. >> Sure. >> It's not apples, >> right? >> But this is looking backward anyway. So we have some sense of math, right? >> Okay. Uh any discussion on where it should come from? The other option being hook it to this year's retention at the at the end of the academic year. I'm agreeing with you. We should take it off the ons for this past year. >> This past year going into >> I don't know what's breakers at the academy are breached. probably everything that I know of but that would be my biggest concern Erica any thoughts that you want to share? All right. All right. Well, then let's move into new business and start there. And let's look for a motion to approve the requested
017payment from school care to be taken from year-end funds in the 2425 fiscal year in the amount of $384,5849. I will not add with discuss the proposed motion. >> I'll second I'll make the motion. >> I'll second. >> Any discussion? >> Bill motion. >> I second it. I realize that was actually motion. >> All right. Motion's been made and seconded. Any further discussion? All those in favor? >> I opposed abstain. Motion carries 4. I think maybe 5. Sorry, I put that. Thank you, Greg. Um, >> she yell at my ear. So, I know. >> Oh, yeah. She screamed. No. So I I would say rather than defer to the facilities committee portion, I would say let's move into the discussion then of the monitoring system for um last spring um we hired the boy and
018came to give us another structural evaluation of the second floor at Lakeway which they provided in a report that was shared with you. I believe it was in May. Um the follow-up conversation with them was what other options um would we have other than um improving the struct structural integrity um and they proposed an al monitoring system um for the the quote we currently have is from June. Um they are looking to update it. I don't think the price is changing, but um it's a few months past um for $13,500, which would measure the floor deflection um between the second floor and the first floor. Um Patty reached out to Primex and she shared with you what the person said. We had a pretty good discussion at the facilities meeting last month. Um, and I
019think that was what we wanted to answer is what would our insurance company expect us to do knowing the information that we have. So that report um was previously shared and and the the contract from 626 you would have as well but they are updating. So at the moment, I mean, are you seeking board action on anything? >> We seek board action to approve to move forward in the amount up to 13,500 if the board agrees to install monitoring system. Are we pursuing um getting advice as far as from a company to what it would take to uh repair this? Um I'm only I haven't reached out to anybody. I'm going off the quote that we have from our current construction team um that we had from last year uh was $391,000 structural reinforcement before.
020Don't know the severity. I don't know what else that might have included. >> That was part of a renovation cost to structurally improve that for >> the 135 coming from where capital reserve >> account. What is your question? Was this a question or statement? >> A question. So I assume it has to be in the motion. He's seeking 135, >> right? I I think we were seeking the 135 right now until we get full quotes or the >> Yeah, but the question was fun what? >> So, we don't yet have quotes. What is the purpose of a motion approving expenditure? Well, we only have one quote dated from last year that >> right >> I mean it would come from either your 5% retention combination capital reserve and retention or and warrant article because we
021know the work's not been >> just for the monitor. >> Oh, for the monitoring. >> No, just the monitoring. Oh, that's just going to come out of like the capital reserve cap if we don't have it in the regular budget for repairs and maintenance. >> But it shouldn't come out of the liquid capital. >> No, >> that's not the intention of that capital. >> So, what reserve account are you talking about? >> Facilities, district facilities. >> So, the 135, we know who will do it and we have quotes. It's the quotes for the larger remediation that remain in question to be considered at a later date. Is that right? >> But we also only have one quote right now for one monitoring system and we don't know what that consists of. This could be a
022full-blown bell and whistle system that is beyond what we really need. So I think we should get at least one more if not two additional code quotes and look at what type of monitoring systems are available. to see how much money we really need. >> Was the monitoring system supported by the facilities committee >> because you guys presented it last meeting? >> Yeah, it I think it was pending the response that we got back from >> and frankly reading the response from Primex um I think it's a little absurd but he's that's insurance. What are they gonna say? No, I don't bother. That's all right. I mean, you haven't done anything since 2001. What's the big deal? Of course, they're not gonna say that, you know, it's ridiculous. >> He was looking at >> I
023think we should have >> I think we should get three quotes for repairing the We should take three quotes for a monitoring system, see what the time system is, what the costs are going to be, so that we really are looking at this in its entirety and then figure out which way we're going to go from there. Yeah. I think I think his full intent was do something. >> Yeah. >> Do something. >> Yeah. That's exactly what he said. >> So that's what we're doing. >> Yeah. >> Right. We're coming to you. We provided you with the information. We're doing something. >> I want to see more information on monitoring systems. I want to see >> quotes on what it's going to take to repair this. Um because I'm not just going to go with
024the waring kings one. Hey 13,500. maybe don't. So, >> we just need permission from the board to move forward with something. Yeah. >> It doesn't mean we're not going to go get additional quotes. We just need to make sure >> this is confused because typically you come to the board when you've selected somebody unless there is some sort of you know emergency. We we've done authorizations contingent on other factors >> up to a certain amount, >> right? But this seems like unless I'm missing >> I have selected them. If you want somebody to take ownership, >> well, I'm not looking all of our work at the elementary school. They know the building. If you want to get additional quotes, you're going to end up paying twice. You're going to pay for somebody to come do
025a structural analysis and then a quote unquote monitoring system that Devoy King has already done, used to be getting. They know the building. So, I'm recommending them at 13,500. >> Yeah. To be clear, I'm not looking for ownership. I'm looking for clarity because it's con I'm confused. I thought coffee would help me understand things better today. Seems to have the opposite effect. But because typically you're saying something different than what Patty is saying just then. So I'm just trying to understand what's actually being sought. You're clarifying that you're seeking to move forward with this quote and this firm with a not to exceed a 135. Correct. Does that match what I'm administration? My response was to bill. I thought that's what the board's directive was going to be to get three quotes. So, I was
026just going to recommend up to a certain amount. And >> yeah, I just I just think generally speaking, if that's the path we're going to go down, >> I don't think it makes sense for the board to sort of preemptively vote that unless there's some significant emergency to say, "Hey, yeah, 135, pick whoever you want. Let want let us know later." I think it would be more prudent for an official recommendation to come forward. Sounds like there is one, >> right? So, I think that's what the board needs to consider. >> And I'm sorry for the lack of clarity there, but I agree with Dale. I think we need to do I think we need to show due diligence. We need to show that we're we're aware of this and then we're making sure that
027it's safe. Um, I think that's a little bit in the read between the lines from Primex. do something. >> I'm not saying we don't do something. I'm saying that >> there are other other companies that build other monitoring systems. We don't need to go and get structural engineers in to get three different quotes. We can take the report that we have most current one and find other companies that do monitoring, have them review the report and see what their recommendations are as far as pricing and stuff. You know, we're this isn't money we had budgeted in the first place. Um, so let's do due diligence, get some quotes from other companies, see what there is for equipment out there, what we need to move forward. And at the same time, we also need to be
028getting some companies in there to be giving us prices on correcting this problem. It's gone on for way too long. What were those figuring out the structure >> as far as course of action to fix it the second floor? So, we should get three quotes for doing that, but we also should get three quotes. So, we've got one from Yak from uh Dubo and King and they're saying, "Yeah, putting in structural monitoring is going to cost you this." I'm saying let's find two other companies that do structural monitoring and see what their costs are. And what is it? There's all kinds of bells and whistles that can come in something like that. What is it that we need? So, because we could be spending a potload of money for stuff we don't need. >> We
029need it to be safe for the students. So, >> I said we need it to be safe for the students is what we need. So >> this has been the case since 2001 and now all of a sudden we're concerned that their students aren't safe. >> You know the boards unfortunately have not acted on this in a timely manner point. So so let's do our due diligence and do it right and try to save the town's people some money and keep our kids safe. We can >> How long does all that take? >> It takes time. We also we also know that we can >> I have a little second I had a student on the second floor right now. >> That's fine. We can also do load calculations. We already know what we already
030know what the live load is. So we know how many people we can put in. So we can also maintain that safe also. This is getting blown way out of proportion and that doesn't need to be. And to just jump and just start throwing money at it on one recommendation doesn't make sense. So can we back up for a second just because I need that point of clarity to answer I'll get your question in a second but facilities committee meeting LA sorry facilities committee report last week the recommendation was to proceed with this pending feedback from private is that basically right >> yeah I was asked to seek >> was the The board said take it to Primeax. They didn't say to >> Okay. So Okay. Okay. So the the the the we were to
031seek Primex's input >> which evidently the facilities committee members have since received. >> Yes. >> So I think in terms of what action the of course any board member can make any motion they want. They could make a motion to declare today's Tuesday. They do whatever they want. There's a couple of ways to do this. The administration is seeking a motion. So, I think we need to see if any board members will want to make second that motion so we can argue by and vote on it. I also think the board could refer this back to the facilities committee and say now that you've received feedback from Primex that you were seeking. Seems like it's opened up some questions. >> Talk it through and let us know what the facilities committee recommendation is very specific
032to Primeax's response. And now this quote that we received from the company's name escapes me. Um so I think we can do either one of those things. Somebody can make the motion that the administration is seeking to approve the purchase and installation of the recommended monitoring system for Lakeway at a cost not to exceed 13,500. Or um we can refer this back to the facilities committee. We can make a different motion. We can make no motion. I can't make any motions. So, >> is that a 135 solid? Like it was last year's quote, but they they would honor it. >> They asked if they they said they wanted to update it, but they didn't talk about up price. >> Lakeway second floor monitoring proposal as per the report from last time. Discussion around budget and
033monitoring is necessary or just recommended for Dale's request and King was in what the next step should be. Bill was not in favor of moving forward with this. Greg asked about liability concerns. Patty, do you support doing this measure as the next step? Dale shared the document with Patty said to our liability of doing or not recommended that's what that's >> I'm going to recommend we bring it back to facilities for further discussion. That's my recommendation >> and I don't think that necessarily requires a vote but just so I guess the question remains is anyone willing to make >> I'll make >> Okay. So Travis has made the motion that is that is been requested by the administration to approve the purchase and installation of the recommended monitoring system for Lakewood at a cost not
034to exceed 13,000. We now need a second if there is one and a vote otherwise we'll refer this to the Pacific. >> Okay. Motion's been made and second. Now we can discuss the motion. So I think Bill, we understand where Bill's coming from, Greg. Curious to hear your perspective as a member of the facilities committee. >> The main concern and clarify this for you Dale was that we exceed the the load limit a couple times a year when we have functions at Lakewood. Correct. >> Correct. >> Outside of that, >> that's not proven. Of course, if that's not proven, they >> come on. >> Okay. Aside from that, >> based on the information we have, Bill, yes, it is 200 200 lb >> per six square feet. >> Yeah. >> All right. In the hallway
035with the adults exceeds the maximum capacity. >> That does. >> Yes. >> How many adults is that? >> Just >> How many adults is there? You're saying you're saying you're >> you haven't calculated it. That's the thing. So then we need to table this and it goes back to facilities >> because this is not the place to be arguing this >> well the last facilities committee said take it to prime about liability concerns and that was your concern you said do something that doesn't mean take it back to the facilities committee >> potentially it does based on the answer we got back from I don't know why we're all mad >> I would just remind the board I would just remind the board that we're allowed to disagree and deliberate we're allowed to vote against
036each other and with each other. That's the whole point, right? We're a deliberative body. So, I do think it's perfectly fine for us to be arguing. I'm confused as to why everybody's hot and bothered. Maybe I don't understand. So, in any event, a motion's been made and seconded. We're going to take a vote in a minute, but I just want to understand and if we can do it without yelling at each other, that would be my preference. So, they'll feel free to yell at each other. You had expressed if you think this is being overlooked. Can you help me understand that just from your perspective? Why do you think this is like some sort of overreaction or ground up? You know, can you just help me understand that? I don't understand the issue at all.
037>> So, if you read the comments that that we got from >> which I don't think the rest of us have. I think only you >> all said that. >> I sent them to >> Oh, Patty sent it. >> Yeah. Sorry. an email. >> Is it in your report, Patty? >> She said I saw it from >> Yes, it's the date. >> The date is >> September 25th. >> September what? >> 25th. And it went to Greg, Steve, Dale, me, the rest of the board was >> I just want to I mean, not the $13,500 isn't money. It is money, but how much money we feel, this is about our student safety. I'm I'm not at all excited about spending $13,500, especially since I have a fourth grader that's on. >> Right. And so the
038reason my question for Dale was the two day the two days are the only days that are a concern if we have large events at the school where we have adults we have parents that are on the second floor but during the routine school day that we are not within that we're we're under that limit of concern. Correct. So then the concern of the safety of our students in my opinion during the regular school day is not a concern. We are with we are under that limit. It's if we have a larger event, which I think is one or two days a year, of which I think we already did one, but they crystal scooted, so I'm not 100% sure if they've done their way. >> Yeah, I think they've done it already. >> So,
039my thought is let's bring it back to facilities knowing that we're not endangering our students by not doing this tomorrow. get back and discuss whether or not we need to get a second and third quote to do the to do the alarm or to do the monitoring system. And the question is, will they take the existing report and determine their monitoring quote or will they insist on doing their own their own study because then you're talking substantial cost, substantial time. But my thought is knowing that we are not putting our students at risk. To be clear on a routine school day, I don't think we need to rush to a vote on this. We should look to get a little bit more information and then come back to the board in a future meeting with
040a decision and a vendor to put forward >> for the monitoring. Just a point of order. I'm sorry. I have a question to Bill. Can we see if Bill can help me understand and then we can dive into other elements of this? >> So, um, >> can you get that email forward to us? >> Thank you. >> Um, so the first comment, this is a legal liability. Well, is if there's a problem. So sorry do we did we ask them about the moderate system or just ask about the load in general? What was the question to primary? >> They got they reviewed >> they reviewed we sent them the report they reviewed it. >> Okay. >> So his bullet points on it was I reviewed both study reports. Beef up the supports. Get a quote
041to improve the support beams. It may not be as bad as you think. Can the problem be fixed? If not, install the monitoring system. If improvement will happen, but not till next summer, install the monitoring system now. Show intent to mitigate the notice situation and our recommendations. This is a legal liability. This is a public relations nightmare. Um, really, and that's where I'm thinking that he's winding himself up. So, frankly, New Hampshire DO could get involved. WC conditions of safety, DAS would be there to perform regulatory investigation. Then you would need to relocate those students slash staff potentially impacted. He's going off the deep end now. The first report study should have triggered improvement to support the beams. Yes, he's correct. And then do something. Excellent. >> That's the do something preference. >> So now
042I don't know if there was more to it than that. That's just >> I literally was just like >> copied and pasted >> top well >> so orally I was just typing the statements as they were as the conversation went. >> Okay. All right. So Bill's story for this now so that >> Oh thank you. >> Okay. Can I just read for a second? Is that okay with everybody? >> Can you what? >> Have a second to read everyone whistle their favorite song. I think I >> and the reports they're talking about that's the report where it shows only two days of any concern. >> What were the two reports? >> The two reports was the one that was um done last year and then 20. >> What kind of >> structural engineer structural But
043the weight load was >> significantly higher if it's really just those two days when we have a lot of adults up on the second floor touring classrooms and and sorry for being obtuse, but the purpose of the monitoring system is to monitor the load or to monitor the structural integrity of deflection >> to the vibration. >> So, it's to monitor the actual performance of the floor, not to monitor or calculate the load itself. >> And you can put, you know, there's bells and whistles. We can put alarms in. Um, and that's why I'm saying I don't know what this system. So, if we wanted to say that the floor deflects over half an inch, an alarm goes off, we evacuate the building. I mean, it's all what is it that 13,500 is gonna get us?
044Is it gonna get us a system that just monitors and then uh it uploads to a system and then Dale can look at it and say, "Okay, here's the deflections that we had today." We don't know what we're getting. And that's one of my beefs is I don't want to spend money until we know what we're getting besides saying that it's going to monitor the deflection on the floor. And who else is out there that does that? Let's let's look and figure out what it is that would meet our needs if we even have to go. >> Got it. And Dale, the quote that you have from the forgive me of that place, >> does it detail what comes in that 135 or is it >> Yes, there's two sections of quote that detail >>
045specific live monitoring and live monitoring program. I can read it if you want. Single spot laser measurements to measure floor displacement. A cable system which will utilize handheld measurement devices to monitor floor displacement. A system with a displacement gauge for continuous real-time monitoring. Develop maximum occupancy in classrooms and corridors based on framing capacities previously developed using a 200lb person. If the developed occupancy limits are less than that required by the building code, we will make the recommendation to post the occupancy limits. Prepare sketches for proposed monitoring alternatives. Uh prepare a report summarizing the alternatives developed. And then the live load monitoring um description of the monitoring system and they'll show us where the locations are being um installed. um systems for establishing baseline and calibrating monitor system. Recommendation for frequency and recommendation for monitoring in
046uh indicates the floor framing floor framing is overloaded. It did not ask for an alarm system to be installed >> just that we would get notification but not >> so not alarm system meaning there's not a list but you or your team or whomever ostensibly would get >> you would have access to this >> would is it a matter of having access or you getting real time >> sort of push alerts and notifications somewhere somehow that something has gone ar >> so parameters that we And your your your feeling, Dale, if I understand it correctly, is that if if we pursue additional quotes, your your concern, which is not shared by others, is that we'd have a hard time finding other firms or that they would they would require some sort of broader study of
047the floor itself, which would require more expense and more time, whereas this firm is already familiar with that. I'm not saying we can't find other firms. I can say that this company took four months to come in and do this. Um, so we would be looking at a time frame and we agreed whether we agree or disagree with the legal asked for it. He gave us his opinion. It's now in writing. Says if we can't do anything until next year to put the monitoring system in place. So to me, that's our direction that we were asked to get as a facilities committee from Pride. Whether we agree with their opinions or not, it's they gave us a recommendation. If we do nothing and something happens, it's on us. If we do nothing and nothing happens,
048it's on us. That's the risk that you take. >> You'd have to put that out today with like an RFP with a return date of some sort or no, you just call people. I can reach out to people with the report that we have. And again, that's I don't know if it's Travis or Fred, that that's assuming that those companies are going to take that report um and use it as or if they want to create their own report to then make recommendations. Uh correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding too is the purpose of this was to monitor any kind of a unexpected you know, changes in the structure. Is that is that >> kind of in the ballpark? >> You know, I I I understand that we, you know, we have the
049load limit and and it's it's rare that we exceed that load limit, uh, if ever, but I I think it's beyond that. I thought it was more about making sure that there wasn't signs of excessive fatigue, excessive movement of the beams. Right. I mean, Dale help me out on >> without seeing it installed. I'm venturing that that's what the cabling system is designed. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, a motion has been made and seconded that we need to be put on unless Travis wants to revoke his motion, which I don't think he's going to. So, all that having been said, is there any further discussion? So, just as a reminder, the motion is to approve the purchase and installation of the recommended monitoring system for Lakeway uh with the cost not to exceed 13,500 made
050by Travis, seconded by any further discussion. All those in favor? >> I opposed. >> Abstain. Greg, did you vote? >> Yeah. >> What did you vote? >> Motion carries 41. Okay. We're going to rock on here. We're going to move to new business. I think we're at item B. >> I have two robotics grants. They're each $11,075. um while we had the opportunity to apply for the elementary school this year and um working with Crystal to establish um the ability to use STEM and robotics um to get more involved into that so that they and then our current robotics team for the high school can look down to help them to do a feeder program for the robotics teams. And so um those are each two-year grants. So, um, we ended up with 11,75 for
051elementary, 11,75 for the high school. >> Thank you. >> So, I think we'll look then for a motion to accept the robotics education development program grant awarded to Mil C Lakeway Elementary School in the amount of $11,75 for the 202526 school year. Motion. >> Is there a second? A second. Any discussion? All those in favor? >> I opposed. Abstain. Motion carries. 5-0. Look for a motion to accept the robotics education development program grant awarded to Littleton High School in the amount of $11,75 for the 2526 school year. Second. >> Any discussion? >> All those in favor? >> I opposed. Sain motion carries 50. >> Sorry, you covered the discovery grant as well or >> Okay. >> So, one more vote. We'll look for a motion to accept the discovery education grant awarded in the amount
052of $9,000 as presented. motion. >> Any discussion? >> So, I just want to explain that a little bit. I guess it's something that's always been free. >> This year, New Hampshire Ed worked with Discovery Education, and Dale can tell me if I get this wrong. It took me a long time to figure out the total of this grant. It's actually written for 3,000 for the elementary school, 3,000 for Daisy Bronson, and 3,000 for the high school. so that it completely covers the cost of the discover as between the two schools. Um, and it is going into GMS which is why I needed to bring it as an award here. Um, but that is how they're moving forward. So, it's no cost to the taxpayers. Um, it is a grant and um that is how they're
053funding it. >> So, it's actually a total of 9,000. >> It is 9,000. So, yes, because you think that this building is a 7 through 12, but they the how Discovery Education split it up was um 3,000 for each school, individual schools. It was very confusing to do because we couldn't figure out the math. It took us a long time to figure out. We've kept coming up 3,000 short of this grant, but it actually covers everyone and it's for this year. It's only one year. >> Okay. So, motion's been made and seconded. Any further questions or discussion on that? All those in favor? >> I opposed. Stain. Motion carries. 5-0. Thanks, Michelle. I'll move on to new business D. Ramik Park. >> I'll be back. >> I I should put that on legend. Greg Greg
054was there. Um Dale was there. We just we just had a a uh several of us attended an event several weeks ago and basically was just a walk through with a park and there was a number of people there 25 30 people and they just kind of talked about the park and some of the history and some of the needs that are you know repairs that need to be done and you know we're we're a partner you know obviously with the rec commission in the town and I I guess as much as anything I I uh I wanted to just commend um the uh the rec commission on a a well planned event, well conducted event and one that I thought was very informative and uh you know I hope that uh down the road
055that you know town and school can work together on various projects and you know and hopefully that that park in the future some of the things that are part of that the needs of that park can be addressed. We just want to commend them on a good uh good activity, good process. >> There were several groups. It was I mean it was the park the park commissioners, it was the friends of Remic Park, I think is the name of the group. >> It was the um the budget committee was there. There was somebody from the planning committee. >> There was the town manager was there. >> Um there were I'm sure other people I don't know if there was anybody from the zoning board, but there probably was somebody from the zoning board. Um I
056think there was a couple of our selectmen that were there as well. >> And it was Yeah, it was interesting to walk the whole property. >> A lot of history. >> Hear some of the history. >> Yeah. A couple of people that were in that were present that remember playing baseball when home plate was where the green building is. Yeah. >> Do they have any specific tasks or does the green building >> No, it was just really a lot of it was focused Well, a big focus for about half of it seemed to be the drainage. it's down at the bottom of, you know, sliding below where the dugout is. It's just how that is each year gets progressively worse and that they've got to do some type. >> You got some grains, right? You
057get some grain take care of satellite. >> And then they talked about the green building which is now can't use it for anything other than the the warming hut portion of it. Um, and that that's going to eventually I think has to come down in the spring. They talked about the the the old football tower and whether or not that should come down. Right now, there's some equipment. Yeah, the old bleachers that were taken down already. So, it >> was just a good update. >> Yeah, the building up by the youth youth baseball field was pretty much unusable right there. >> Yeah, for the bathrooms are unusable. Use it for baseball storage and then it's also there can you little food during baseball season. Such such a great car used to a variety of purposes.
058I mean this weekend a huge event. >> So we were there and you know schools represented. I just wanted to acknowledge that acknowledge the work that was done the good work that was done by people who were involved with putting that together. Riley Anything else? >> Okay, let us move on to item E under new business. The CIP >> nothing nothing new that that committee will meet here in the very near future. But we got the information in there. Dale did a lot of work with it. I just want to keep keep in the movement. nothing in I when we put the agenda together, I thought there may be some updates and haven't seen that. So, just want to let you know, >> okay, >> that that is something we're still working on. >> Okay.
059Thank you. And new business item F, fiscal year 2027 budget updates. uh leadership team has uh had two meetings on looking at the at the budget come up with generated several possibil you know list of 16 or so possible reduction areas um we've used our our survey software pretty well with that group to do some ranking and work and uh you know I just want to really tonight was just an update saying that we're we're working you know looking at a number of possible scenarios and you know I think through the process it's said before it's important to remember several things and I'll I'll share this in more detail at a future board meeting but you know one thing I think we have to talk about and and make sure that we we uh we
060make this clear to the public and that is we we have. Yes, we've lost students over the last however long. It's been a longterm process for the entire North Country to some extent the whole state and Northeast. But, uh, you know, we have renewed staff as we've gone along. You know, I've heard people say we got the same number of staff as you did, you know, when you had 100 more students or two more students. That's not true. We have we have reduced staff during that time. Um um and you know in just going into from into this into this current budget year even we didn't fill certain positions at the board. and more for those that may be watching or watching at a later time, you know, to try to prepare and make sure
061that we uh we're in a better position for fiscal 27. And even with the significant reductions that we made, you know, I shouldn't say reduction, but significant not filling positions during the current budget. Even even with those numbers accounted for in the fiscal 27 budget, we're we still came in a little over a quarter,000 level funed budget. And had we not done the things we did last spring, we probably looking at 7 or 800,000. So that's the true cost of kind of doing, you know, staying status quo and reflecting a number of costs we've already talked about. I'm sure the big one and so on and so on. So those are the kinds of things we're working through with the leadership team is working collaboratively and uh we'll keep continue to work on that. Next
062next board meeting a couple weeks we'll have some details. That's my goal. Any questions? Thank you. Any additional new business to bring before the board? If not, on to unfinished business. We'll look for a fly abatement program in the band room. Uh we'll look to the uh unfinished business. Item A, the teacher residency program. >> Nothing new to report there. >> Item B, the Lakeway building committee. >> Yes. I have lots of >> floor is yours. >> Um on Friday, Dale and Henry and uh Steve and I met with repres representatives from BPS and from Vanwell. Um we agreed to meet Vanwell and BPS got together. Originally the meeting was to BPS and Vanwell have an idea that they said have worked in other communities. They wanted to bring it to us because they know
063that we haven't been successful with with the bond. Um their idea was for us to give them a number um some magic number where they thought that if you know we put 36 million then that it's going to get all the yes votes. So they wanted to throw that idea at us to see if that's something that we would be willing to consider or think about or give to them. Um so that's more of a board discussion I think that we need to have if not tonight uh very soon. We're running out of time now to do any marketing. We haven't done any marketing yet because we don't have concrete number and that's what everybody's looking for is what's the magic number was 40 million. know it's 40 million plus for a new build. During
064that discussion, we also threw around the idea of perhaps we should reook at renovation. Maybe that's the way we go right now. Um based on the unknown of the tariffs, the economy, um the town assessment being fiscally responsible, some of the committee member, well, I'll be honest, we haven't had a meeting in quite some time. there hasn't been anything made about um per se, but I feel like we're losing traction at this point. I feel like there's key administrators in SAU84 that are not supportive of this project, whether they want to say it publicly or not. Um but them not being around for meetings or participating in conversations um speaks volumes to me. I feel like we are losing traction and support with the budget committee. we've done everything that they've asked us to do
065and it's discouraging to hear in our quarterly meetings questions that we've answered time and time again that they don't know the answers to or they come up to me on in um other events and they say you know what I can't vote for it this year I had your I supported you before I don't support you now so those two things we should probably discuss um obviously if we decide to go renovation it's not going to answer questions like the safety of the major traffic route. Um parking, we don't own parking. If we do renovate, that's going to take up space, possibly take up playground. Um most likely construction will happen during the school year. So, uh it will disrupt learning um perhaps even students. Um, if we go new build, we really need to
066figure out um our budget because we can't continue to have a $18 million budget and ask for 40 million plus from the taxpayers in my opinion. Um, so I'll throw all of those out there first and stop if anybody wants to respond. >> When is our first meeting with the budget committee? Our first board meeting includes the budget committee. [Music] the second board meeting of it's either the first depending on where we get the next two weeks is either the first uh board meeting in November or the second board meeting [Music] >> Erica in your view and panel's view is the first meeting in November too late for us to because I wonder if to answer to respond to all of your comments It would seem to me that we need to know, not need
067to know, we prefer to know a number of things. What's the budget looking like? And can we have we've been able to create any space for a bond? Number one. Number two, what are the bond payments look like? And what's the match number to your question? Right. And if we if we ask Patty give us projected bond payments of 40 million 38 36 34 3230 right that would help us understand the the the variation and then also re rehash this with the budget committee in a public session to say okay the facts haven't changed right uh we could talk about the the state aid project the fact that it may look like we're in a rosier position, but we're in a rosier position with no funding like and and see if out of that discussion
068comes some clear path or consensus. Um, that wouldn't help us understand new build versus renovation, but it would help us understand how aggressively we can we can build and we can pursue a new build. The only other thing I would say in response to your comment is I remain under the impression that the board does not have the ability to market the vote. Right. So I don't think it's that we're not marketing. I think I agree that nobody is by the way, but I don't think the board can. Um at least that's been my understanding in consultation with council over the the years. But my preference just me as one dude would be if we can have this be a seminal part of the discussion with the budget committee that first board meeting in November
069ask the business administrator to come with projected bond votes at various um dollar amounts that would give us the most complete picture that we could have at that point to help guide the board's deliberations. We also discussed um consolidating grades. We we brought it up before different parents, different situations now. Do we we move the academy over? Do we talk about that again? Do we do we do a six, seven, eight because we seem to have more room up here was another discussion that we had. Um, do you want to talk about your idea? Yeah, I mean this this isn't my idea per se, but it's been presented to me and that is is there a way to reconfigure this building and and do some renovation here and some addition here, but to have a
070K2 basically >> kind of feel like the um strategic plan should have been done a long time ago because we have all these facil and we had so much upkeep on all of the facilities that we probably should have talked about this before school. So Banwell and BPS are are more than ready to be on board with us. I almost feel like they still have more energy than most of us do at this point. They want to see us succeed in whatever we decide. So to answer your question, we probably could wait till November, but then we're closer to January. We haven't answered any of the questions of of the town's people that continuously pop up that we've answered before. So I guess it's majority of of how you guys >> will also know the
071rebound and the rate situation by November on the town side. >> Yes, I think we need to know that. Yeah, I should. >> I talked to the town last week and the MS1 had not been filed yet. So, I'm waiting for that to happen. That has to happen before we can set tax rate. So, um I would anticipate by the end of this month, maybe by the 20th meeting. So, >> I just did voice my um agreement with one thing that Eric said sort of you know having the strategic plan to guide the longer range plan for some of these bigger questions like the use of this facility seems to be the one that we're sure is going to say that's current to govern the perspective and plan for what's across the street those things
072helpful I do I think it >> shut down. >> Is that the monitoring system >> taking off? >> I I might be over 200 lb. And by might, I mean am. Um the the it is a little bit or a lot of bit unhelpful for every question to constantly be unanswered, right? Like it feels very schizophrenic the discussion we're talking about renovation again. Were we right and was it true when we evaluated albeit not at a 50 majority but close that renovation was not viable for a whole host of reasons. Have any of those variables truly changed that appear not to? We're talking about this school now or this facility, excuse me, and reworking it to fit K through 12 when we had previously evaluated it and determined that fitting 6 through 12 wasn't viable.
073Right? So if everything is constantly being readjudicated, we're just going to spin. And then it's not going to be surprising that we have a lot less energy. >> Yeah. >> than BPS. >> I mean, we're just kind of throwing some of the same ideas out there again because we're trying to figure out the bottom the bottom line and figure like again >> and I think the bottom line is hard to know. If you're if if by bottom line you mean what is the dollar amount at which we'll get a sufficient majority of the votes. I think that's hard. Obviously we can't know that for sure. Right. Period. Right. >> But I think it's going to be it's going to be hard for the board to get a good sense of that without knowing bond payments
074without knowing budget without knowing tax rate. And if we can know all those things and have a discussion about those things with the budget comm about the budget committee's role in this in in November, whatever that Monday is, November X, I think that's worth waiting for, but that's just me. Or maybe just me and Travis. Dale and Steve were both at the meeting. I don't know if they want to add anything. Igot. said the same thing. So, it's tough to put a dollar figure and it's tough to put a dollar figure on a renovation estimate. They're just presenting ideas. I don't I don't think the committee is thinking renovation. I mean, because you still you have to look the other way on parking and playground space, um you know, the traffic, which were all concerns
075of ours when we went through it. And let's say you say 15 million will pass for a renovation and then they start going to town at Lakeway and then all of a sudden 15 million becomes 25 million when we could have maybe had a new one 35 or whatever the price is. So I think we threw a bunch of ideas around and talking about it and I don't I don't think we accomplished what they were intending. So yes, we can is the board do does the board agree that we should direct the business administrator to present to us an array of bond payments? array, not array, array of sunshine and an array of bond payments at various >> construction dollar amounts to support that discussion in early November. >> I have 30, 35, and 40.
076Do you want anything beyond that? >> 32 and a half, 37 and a half. We should probably do like a 45 because >> of the 5%. >> I'm just going to do exactly like what I've done in the past with um multiple years terms >> to the public. I'm not saying it's 45 million. I'm just >> you 45 it's 60. I guess another question to think about too is do we want to make the daughters an offer? This this came up. So I'm just asking to make the daughters an offer with the stipulation that it'll only be used for educational purposes which was there >> an offer to buy the land. >> Yeah, we run out of time. But you'd have to look at, you know, I think the blind figure is like three millimeters
077to, you know, make it. >> So yeah, let's wait another bill. I'm not asking your support on the project, but just you're comfortable with us waiting until November and asking that Patty bring those figures among other things with her? Yes. >> Yes. Yes. >> Okay. >> Array. A a space array and an array. >> Um okay. So we're going to move on maybe to the committee reports, negotiations committee. Uh we continue to carry forward our track record of causing our trouble. We'll move on to the facilities committee. Have you met since the last meeting? >> Okay. Then we'll move on to policies. We got a whole bunch. My guess, Steve, is that all but GBI or regulatory induced updates. Yeah, a lot a lot of this is not all of them but the one most
078of those are related to uh references in the joint loss management document but there's there's a little bit of everything there staff staff participation again I think it's it's good that uh we have some standards there so it's clear to people you know what what uh what they what uh is legal. You know, more protections they have and what protection they don't. I think there's some gray area there. This makes it makes it much more clear and I think a better certainly puts us in a better position going forward. People know the expectation. >> I know this is not typically our process. We're not going to hold this, but just out of curiosity, have you discussed the draft language of GBI with the administrative team with any representatives from the teachers union? >> I have
079not. >> Okay. >> I know I know that GBI we talk we the I make the uh make these documents available for the administrative teams. They know what and they they know what's coming uh in terms of of a policy. But I have not probably shouldn't but I have I can certainly and I can certainly do that have a conversation with with Jeremy as well if I >> mean I don't think it's required. I'm just cur I was good practice but >> I think it's very broad. >> I think it's pretty >> um and and and to me it doesn't seem it doesn't seem like it's restrictive in the wrong ways. Um, but you know, I don't have their perspective, so what do I know? So, are there any comments or questions on any of
080the policies other than that one? I guess for a second. >> Yes, sir. >> Um, oh, sorry. What were you saying? >> So, policy KI, visitors to the school. >> Yes. >> Just clarification, the second sentence is a little confusing. employees of the school system and then in parenthesis all the all the categories are advised are to advise the school principal and secretary that they're in the building. >> It's very confusing because if I teach in those buildings I have to tell the principal I'm in the building. It doesn't specify >> that it means an employee going to a different building. It just says you got to know the notify the principal you're in the building. So every morning I got to let Al know I'm in the building. If I come in this building
081that makes no sense. >> Yeah. So just >> we s we sign I mean I signed in what I remember I usually do but >> no right I would consider you a visitor because you're not in this building as your office. >> Yeah. >> Um and then somewhere at least I don't know for sure >> but I thought there was a policy or there was some type of rule for board members >> that is it a different policy? Okay. And does that kind of match the same thing? We have to check in with the administrator. We can't just walk in the building. >> I think we I think you have to Okay. So, I I didn't know if that policy needs to be kind of looked at and reviewed with this policy to make sure
082that the language is consistent because employees of the school district um of the school system. I don't know if we are considered employees if we receive a check every year for our duties, but >> that's a good loophole right so >> so I'm I'm just saying I don't know if we need to make sure that that policy >> I think it depends on what hat you're wearing >> so is that something the superintendent and the team can look into is is does the policy changes if adopted in KI require any change to the policy on board visits to the buildings? >> Yeah. And then again, just clarifying that if they're signing into another building, I just think that needs to be clarified. And then I have one other. >> Go ahead. Um on policy EVCC,
083um I know it notes in there that um law enforcement authorities will be notified, but would it make it a little more have a little more weight to it. There there must be a state or federal law that talks about calling in a fake bomb threat or you know they there is about yelling fire in a public you know building. Is there anything that we should add to the policy that just gives it a little bit more weight by tying it to federal laws that are tied to doing a a threat that's, you know, a false threat? Just a thought, just a question. I know it marks, it talks about um authorities, but then it does not reference any RSA, any SBA, any state law, any federal law. And then it actually it does mention
084at the top the New Hampshire school boards it does give the uh H the passage of HB244 and the amendment of RSA 66 6443 but I didn't know if there needs to be if there's any way to put more weight to this >> I didn't say that the investigation of the threat local law enforcement authorities. >> Yeah that's what I'm saying. I know it's there. >> Yeah. >> I just didn't know if there's any value to putting weight. You know, we know of course we're going to notify not not to not to that it's a threat or a false threat or hoax, but this has happened, right? >> Yeah. >> We're always going to do that regardless. >> No, I was just a question whether it made sense it would add weight. Would it be
085beneficial? But if it doesn't, I'm fine with that. >> So, it seems to me like at the very least we should hold on KI till there's, again, this is just my opinion. you guys can motion whatever the heck you'd like, but that we should wait on KI till there's some clarity. I know I brought up the question on GBI. I think it's important that we have a policy in place and not wait for feedback, but I think we could also just express to the superintendent that we're going to pass this policy, but would like him to get feedback from the admin team and the teachers union leadership and that we can consider revisions. >> I say we can always vote for a revision, but >> yeah. So we but I think it's just I think
086it'd be good to have a policy even if it that policy might change. Uh so that's just my opinion. But are there any other comments? Otherwise I'll just I guess call for a motion and see what motions everybody wants to make. Do we agree on holding on KI? There's no urgent need to put it in place. I presume. All right. Then we look for potentially a motion if anyone's willing to make it to approve for first rate induction. Policy GBI, policy EG, policy EBCC, policy CH, policy CBG, and policy C, I'm sorry, GBG, and policy GB GBA. Great motion. I'll second. Any discussion? >> Just one question. It's not any change to it, but on GBGBA, Steve, >> on the um I know it talks about that the nurse in each location will be responsible
087for them, but do we do any annual um [Music] do we have somebody professionally qualified to come in and annually inspect them? Like a biomed, somebody with biomed? >> I don't know. So at the hospital, every one of our AEDs that are on the wall throughout the hospital are reviewed by our biomed tech that comes in. We partner with University of Vermont for biomed. Um it would make it would probably be worthwhile looking into that even if you reached out to like Littleton Hospital and asked if they would be willing to >> Yeah, we may we may be doing that. I don't I don't know the answer to that. >> Dale, are you familiar with that? Uh just Mr. Beaven and nurse will walk around and check batteries and replace pads >> on a yearly
088basis. >> They probably should have a biomed annually. >> Yes. >> And and each time they do that, there should be a sticker put on it that states when it was last inspected and >> I'll send any questions on that policy or any others. >> Okay. So Sheena, I think a motion's been made and seconded. Yes. >> All right. Any further questions or comments? All in favor? >> I oppose. Same motion carries 5. And then Steve, if you can review KI and then also review GBI. >> I will. >> Whoever you deem appropriate to get some feedback and then make some changes. >> We'll move on then to the student representative report. >> We'll move on to the superintendent report. Great, very great very short. Um, I I uh one thing I was going to
089talk just a little bit about, we did talk about strategic planning. The committee did did meet uh last week and we spent a considerable amount of time going over the survey and tweaking the survey and and putting some touches on the survey so that we do have a uh a document that'll go out this week. and uh and the tricky the tricky part with this is uh managing the surveys and students and so on. So the way I finally decided we will approach that is we'll send a survey out to parents, ask parents uh have their kids fill out the survey if they wish them to do it. That way there's no we don't have to go through the process of uh trying to get permission slips back and all that kind of stuff and
090get quicker results that way. So, uh, so we that was took a good share of the hour and 20 or so minutes that we met. Um, we're not we're not meeting this week to give us a little time of the survey. We'll see if we we get the survey out and get some meaningful results by next week. We'll meet. If we have sweet or push that next meeting back a week, we'll do that. But, uh, yeah, I'm I wish we would have started strategic planning a long time ago, but at least it's starting now. Um, you know, the district, as far as I know, has not ever had one. Maybe maybe I misspe. We do one buried someplace, but at least in the very near future, we will have something some kind of of a
091document that does give us some at least some uh direction and priorities and so on based on broad broad-based feedback from stakeholders. >> Any further from or superintendent? Yep. We move then to public input. >> Boys soccer tie three for the girls window. >> Yeah, boys. >> Anything further for public input? >> From robotics went to the governor's cup on Saturday. 10 kids go down. Um they were 22 out of 29 um New Hampshire teams and um >> we always love their demonstration. They do some fun stuff. Thank you for that update. Congratulations to them. Anything further for public input? We want to sign one of the Patriots for nothing. No, we're good. All right. Then we'll look for a properly awarded motion to enter back into nonp session >> again under just >> personel
092I think >> and I think we're talking about council right >> we we are >> numbers we council >> let me get the cheat sheet Okay, we need number three and we need number eight. Taking one of those from I think it's just me. I think that covers it. >> Okay. So I'll make a motion to to return into non-public session under paragraph 2 section 3 of the RSA 91A 3 of the right to know law number three matters in which if discussed in public would like the adversely affect the reputation of any person other than a member of this board and number eight consideration of legal advice provided by legal counsel taking with us the superintendent. Oh, >> any further discussion? All those in favor, roll call vote, please. >> Travis, did you speak?
093>> Yes, I did. >> John Motion carries 5. We are now in nonfuck.